E250: Terrence Terrell, known as "MOTAUR" from the Progressive Insurance commercials, EMMY Award-winning Actor, Author, Musician, and Philanthropist

My next guest is Terrence Terrell. He is Motaur, the half-man-half motorcycle in the Progressive motorcycle insurance commercials. He is an Emmy Award-winning Actor, Author, Musician, and Philanthropist. Terrence has appeared on BOSCH for Amazon, ROOM 104 for HBO, BATWOMAN for The C.W., and THE FIRST WIVES CLUB for BET+, as well as Issa Rae's GIANTS, for which he won his Daytime Emmy for "Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Digital Drama Series. Terrence can be seen as a series regular on the new Chuck Lorre comedy for C.B.S., B POSITIVE. He is originally from Cleveland, MS, is an HBCU alum (Mississippi Valley State University), and currently resides in Los Angeles, CA. Terrence is also passionate about mentorship. He serves as the Head Mentor for Tina Knowles Lawson and Richard Lawson's WACO Theater and "Angels and Warriors" non-profit organization in L.A. to empower young, underprivileged millennial students to experience and accomplish their dreams in arts and entertainment. His self-published children's book series includes BLACKY, THE SHES, THE CROWN KIDS, and his latest book, MY LITTLE BLACK BOOK. The books promote Black beauty, inclusion, and self-love, which are Terrence's driving forces. He is building an empire through talent, hard work, passion, and a commitment to making the world a better place every day. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Terrence Terrell.
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But I always tell people about this, it's time to
leave with your gifts. Really, it really is. Don't let
your friends, family, anybody stop you from planning and living
your goals. Because my show on Money Making Conversation is
about bringing people on the shows who are celebrity CEO
is entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. My next guest is
Terrence Terrell. Let me just let y'all know a little

(01:07):
bit about him because I've been following him. He's Mota, y'all,
half man, half motorcycle, and those progressive motorcycle. Now I know,
all y'all, that black dude, that black dude on that
on that treadmill, on that Tramvior Bernie Rubble. That's my
man right here, Terence Turrell. We're gonna put the word
out by him. He's an Emmy Award when an actor, author, musician,
and philanthropist. He's appeared on Bosh for Amazon, Loved Him

(01:30):
On That Room, One on four for HBO, Batwoman for
the c W, and The First Wives Club for BT plus. Also,
he's a Raised The Giants, for which he won a
Daytime Emmy for Outstanding Support the Actor. In the digital
drama series, Terence can be seen in series on the
series on New Truck Laurie Chuck Laura. If Chuck Laurie
calls you, then you start you get know your needs.

(01:51):
You said, thank God, because this man history on television
is legendary. For sustaining sitcoms on the air. But lets
go a little bit about this brother here. He's uh,
he's originally from Cleveland, Mississippi, so you have to use
the word humble beginneas with him. He's an h PC
in your law Mississippi Valley State. That's Jerry Ryans Country

(02:12):
Willie Todd, you know what I'm talking about, and currently
resides in Los Angeles, California. You know the beauty of him, man.
He has a book out that we're gonna talk about.
Is a self published children's book series and includes the
titles of Blackie, He's a previous book that he's written,
but my Little Black Book. The book promotes black beauty, inclusion,
and self love, which are some of the forces that

(02:34):
drive this young man as he builds his empire through
his talent, hard work, passion, and his commitment to making
other people better. Please work with the money making a conversation.
He had to change his background once he realized who
was interviewing him. He thought he was in the basement.
Please welcome terrors to be showing up the like, let me,

(03:00):
let me show out, let me get ready for you. No, no, no,
hold up, hey man, Okay, who are you gonnagain? Hold on,
hold on, hold hold on. That's your background that ain't
know like uh like no, no little thing they just
put on like a little flip pitcher. Now that's me brother,
all of like, let me know you are about me.
Let me go ahead and do something where you're upgrading ground. Well,

(03:24):
first all, you're a handsome guy. So any background you'll
be in front of gonna work for you. So let's
go get that. That's gonna get that out to wait.
But you come from Cleveland, Mississippi. Now, I've been all over.
I have been in that city because, like I said,
I know about Cleveland, uh, Mississippi, Alabama, because I was
a stand up comedian. So I was going up and

(03:45):
down all the little towns man just trying to make
my career work. And and when you're trying to make
your career work, sometimes you have to do in play
places that on one on that schedule for start. And
so come from Cleveland. Now we're sighting in Los Angeles.
Told us about their journey because we have to stop
at the HBCU country that I mentioned in your intro

(04:08):
Mississippi Valley state. Because right now, HBCU brand recognition is
on fire. You have to be proud. Yes, Um, so
I was raised that while I grew up in Mississippi,
but my mom moved us to Cleveland at five and
I went to San Diego and then I came back
to Clean, Mississippi when I was fifteen because my grandmother.

(04:28):
You know, you go back to the South because somebody
is sick or you gotta help family, remember house, So
my grandmother had are open heart surgery, so I went
back to help her out. Um, and I end up
going to college at Mississippi Valley State there undergrad that
was undergrad then grad school. I went to Jackson State.
But I was a drum major at Mississippi Valley State.
So I was in front of the bage. Come on
that you that guy that did display not hey man,

(04:51):
let's let's let's talk about that man, because that's no joke. Man.
You're the drum major for a black marching band and HBCU.
Hey brother, you know, finally somebody understand when you say
drum major. They'd be like, oh, the person that played
a drum major is literally like the Michael Jackson of
the band. You gotta you gotta be, you gotta know

(05:14):
the steps, you gotta know the cues, you gotta know
the sections. You gotta be in control. So yeah, so
you know the gangster of what a drum major is.
I became a drum major freshman year, and that usually
never happens. You gotta be in the gym, not the gym,
but you gotta be in a band for at least
two years to do that. And I tried out and
I made it, and so I was a freshman drum

(05:35):
major and so you know, of course I had to
be very strong because you have people in the band,
like what seven years they ain't graduated, and maybe it
was just being a band, So yeah, it was. It
was a very cool experience. But I learned so much music,
so so many amazing things that you can learn. You
learn how to survive at HBCU. You of course get
your education, but you learn how to make a way

(05:56):
out of no way, right, and it's really important. You
sitting and because I don't want to, because we talked
about HBCUs and I want to go back to that
marching band experience because that's the cornerstone of what HBCUs
are known for. And you know, we know about sports,
but then the bands or that halftime show and then
you know, then you cast and throwing to HBCU. Well,

(06:17):
you know I did undergrad it Miss Valor State, and
then I did granted Jackson State with Dan Sanders, got
him two old tanning up all on the front baby ESPN.
They undefeated everything. Man, you have to be and Miss
Valor State home Hall of Famer Jared Rice. Man, you
have to be. Brother. You gotta have some HBCU photos

(06:38):
in frond your house. It's it's it's a great time
for hbc U, the greatest. But the funny thing is
coach Todd and he was at my He used to
coach at my high school, okay, at east Side High
and in Cleveland, and then when I went into I
think he left and went to Valley States. So I
marched into Titan Ross Rice Stadium on a weekly basis

(07:00):
just just the love and the energy that I got
from there. And then of course it was so funny
because you know a lot of people like you shouldn't
go to two HBCUs, you should go to undergrad at
one and then maybe you should go to Old MR
or something. But I was like, no, I'm gonna stick
I'm gonna stick from my HBCU and I'm gonna lose
Jackson State because you know, they say you won't look

(07:21):
upon as a serious college student if you went to
to h b c US. So, thank god out and
listened to quote unquote day whoever they are. You know,
it's always a day they said this, they said that.
But thank god I didn't listen to them, because I
learned a lot at Jackson State as well, and I
graduated from grad school at the age of one, and
I came out here and got right into the whole

(07:42):
background standing and everything. So yeah, it was it's been
a journey. I'm just blessed. Now you got a small guy.
You know, you're over six ft, right, I'm six ft
five and a half. Yeah, okay, so listen. That's the
other thing said. You are to see you on another level,

(08:02):
you know a lot, because you know, a drum major
that has to be at least six tall, and I
don't understand that for the A and M. When I
first saw them, those dudes, each one there was like
six nine because people have to see you absolutely, I'm like, okay, cool,
but they had after I left, they got a drum

(08:23):
major he was like five two or something. But you
have to be tall, so people, but then you also
have to be able to be tall and move and
fluid and so because it reads what I'm saying it
because you know, because college prepares you so so many things,

(08:43):
and I'm just gonna read I'm saying that as a
freshman he was a drum major and then HBCU ms
A Valleys date. Okay, right there. You know the the
amount of confidence is overwhelming in a sense because you
were blessed to be able to believe in yourself. Because
now you're taking that same courage, the same I've been out,
I've been there before, i've been in front, I've been

(09:04):
tested to l a and you're achieving a lot of success.
Like I said, man, and I love what you said
when people told you, hey, man, don't do back to back.
HBC used people drop in and trying. That's why always
tipped the front. Don't let nobody get in your dreams
or playing your future. Not your family, friends, coworkers, nobody.
That's why I always said it up time and you

(09:25):
you speak to truth right now, I'm telling you because
if you let anybody put the price on you everybody
loves a clearance cell. They're always gonna cheat you. So
never let anybody tell you what you can't do. And
if you if they tell you, know you're just speaking
to the wrong person, right, So go found that person
and figure it out. But like you said, HBCUs taught
me a lot. It taught me drive, It taught me focused,

(09:47):
and it taught me never to take no for an answer.
Um and always there's always a will. Where there's a will,
there's a way, and hard work always pays off. So
even when I got here, I wasn't thinking like, oh,
I'm gonna get discovered out of gas station. I was like, Okay,
where do I need? I know there's work to do.
Where do I need to do? Where do I need
to go to get that work to make sure I'm
where I'm supposed to be. And I went Scott to

(10:10):
acting classes and everything else and the rest is history. Okay. Cool?
And the cool part about it when we're talking here
about your career, about going through this whole process of
defining you, And that's what I love about when when
when I try to bring people on the show like
my my my show airs on YouTube, airors on but
It also airs on nine HBCU campuses intentionally intentionally and uh.

(10:34):
And so when we talk about you man and representing
and your philanthropy, because we're gonna go we're gonna get
talking about a Little Black Book. Of course, we're gonna
talk about be positive. But I really wanted to talk
about you because you're an inspiration brother, you know, inspiration
and a very well timed inspiration. And and I want
to go to the famous commercial because you six five

(10:55):
now as motak you don't look six five. You look
by five too because you ain't got no letter. He
got it right here too. The money, yeah, the motor
of it all, and it's so funny. I love the
ways you say confidence because I felt like I didn't
have a lot of confidence growing up. And that's why
I wrote these books of um like Blackie came from

(11:18):
me not liking my skin color. And so I say
all that to say. When I went out for the motor,
I was like, I'm not doing this. This is crazy.
They're not gonna pick me. Why me? And my best
friend jamaal Um he was like, tee, you gotta go.
It was raining the l a and something like they
don't be driving like gremlins in the rain. I'm not
gonna be driving like forty minutes outside. So I was, okay,

(11:39):
let me just do it. And I went there and
I did it, and I got the call back, and um,
the director was so amazing. The first thing he did
he stood up, and that was unusual. He stood up
and came to me before I auditioned and gave me
a handshake, looked me in my eyes and told me
that there was only a couple of people I can see,
and you was one that I knew I needed to
see because of your confidence. And I'm like, but there's

(12:01):
a reason for everything. So I didn't go through all
the craziness and you know, the losses and getting all
those elves and then having to grow, I would have
not been the person I was, and you know the
man who I am now to actually even get into
the motor of it all because they said he exhumed
confidence and to me, I was like, oh, I'm just
being myself, right, Um yeah, because you have to be confident.

(12:24):
You have man have motorcycles. So you're really looking like
who's looking at who are you in his world or
he in the our world? But it's all that, but
we got some amazing ones coming up on the fifte Okay,
you guys want to see a way more of his personalities. Okay,
we would let me know because I want to dropped
in on my social and my news my weekly news
letter to you know, because I've honor you, especially with

(12:46):
the fact that you know, I knew in your in
your body is only mentions Mississippi Valleys thing. So I
got a really honor you. You you're you're too tired
hbc U. You know, so that that's the love I
got to give you a name. But that's all I
was just saying earlier, is that is that because HBCU
and you being a drama to prepared you and a
lot of people trivialize things when it becomes part of

(13:08):
your personality, part of your success story. And that's all
that guy was saying when he walked up to you.
He said, you're confident and then has been so built
into you going out there, going out knowing what you
had to do, sind you since you was a freshman,
knowing what you had to give. Now, I was like, okay,
you march God, damn, I'm tell yourself. I'm telling your

(13:31):
best men do, Mr Terrence Direct. What you don't do
is mess with me, brother, what'na do? Because because the
beauty of you, man is that is when I when
I look at your career. You know, we're going to
the boshow Amazon, you know, a batwoman, you know, the
First Wives Club, you know, comedy, you know, and then

(13:53):
you're playing a character that's not real, you're seeing through,
but you make it real. Because I remember how I
told my wife, I said, beebe and listen. I was like,
in the kid, I'm gonna interview motor. She said. I said,
the black dude who's hand man. He don't get it then.
And it's been such a blessing because the funny thing

(14:15):
is the grown men. I see grown men now they
go crazy about it. So a lot of people think
I'm Lebron James. When I have my mask man, the
guy follows and I always get like a random person
followed me through the grocery store and the guy followed me.
I was like, here we go again, and he keen James,
and I took my mask off. I said no. When
I did take it off, I said no. He just

(14:36):
stood there like, let me see my mask off, and
he screamed. You're like, oh, so he wouldn't leave. I
took a picture with him. But it's like you get
the big motorcycle guys, tattoos and the beers. Oh my god,
you're the MOLTOI You're the moltour. So it's it's so cool.
It's so it's just a blessing to being you know,
all right, I didn't. I wouldn't never thought. You know,

(14:59):
you come out here, you just think you want to
do one thing. I just want to be on a
show or just one show. Give me one show. In
that year, I was like, just give me one commercial.
I end up doing five two days, and then now
it's up to almost twenty eight commercials with amazing company.
It's all it's just all been amazing ride. And I
think I know the reason I'm blessed because I continue

(15:21):
to give even when I may not even have. At
the same time, I know how special this to be
in this space, so I never take anything for granted.
Every time I put on that w B line, I
used to watch that when I was a child, So
pulling onto those gates every day of the week, it's like,
I really just I just know I'm blessed. It's finally here,
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been there, man doing Jamie Fox, you know, pull it
up on the error man. And because very few people
allowing that gate, brother, you know that, you know you're
walking the gates. Very few of us, you know, in
those gates. And so I've been on Paramount lot w
B lot, you know, all the Sony lots, you know

(17:54):
all those blots. Man, when they say your name and
then you you come on there so much, I'll go
home by Terry. You know, that's when you go. Yeah,
this is just the feeling I want to keep, just
the feeling I want to have because that's that's that's
a very small club, Tarantee, and you know that's a club,
and it's a even with the show. This this is
a real life and it feels so good because every

(18:16):
character I've been blessed to play it's a mirror to
real people. And my grandmother was one of dialysis dressed
like Diana Ross, and she will always say she's making
dialysis entertaining, how what's what? And so now I'm literally
making dialysis educating people every week, but making it entertaining
as well. So it's all it's it's but at the
same time, I know it's a responsibility. So even walking

(18:38):
I might be going too deep, but even walking on there,
I'm like, Wow, Like the Sydney Portier's and all these
amazing people paved the way for me to be here.
So I take every day very very serious and I
know that I'm in the space to allow more space
for us. Absolutely, and you have to because you know,
and you know the reason I really enjoyed talking to you.

(19:00):
You know, first of all, I want to congratulate you
on the daytime Emmy. I'll standing support the actor in
the digital drive and you know what I'm talking about, Ima,
And I tell people all the time I introduced a
lot of people. They'll say, nominated five times, nominated for
Image Award. You know what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying. So I know, dude, when you win one,

(19:21):
you best put that in your bio because it's rand
It's the introduced how they got to be like Emmy Award.
Because I'm still very humbles, I'm like you want to
I'm like, oh yeah, yeah. When I get introduced Emmy Award,
where actor, It's like, oh I I can I interview
a lot of people nominated for Grammy, named nominated for

(19:46):
and in me, dude, I said, I'm telling you had
the longest bio I've ever read. But I said to
I gotta tell everybody's story. I'm not I'm not gonna
leave anything out. I'm not gonna shut change you because
I knew you knew assist. So I don't know you personally,
but your journey needs to be told. And when I
when I see these things, like you know, daytime in

(20:08):
me in the drama series, that's a whole about we're
just telling no, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't slaunch that
I introduced too many people in this show. Just say
nominated as a credit. Okay, he's one. Okay. And so
because I did that too, I remember, I remember I
actually lost one of my Image Awards. You know, I
lost it, you know what I'm saying because I didn't understand.

(20:29):
My head was down, just grinding, grinding, grinding. So so
I tell people I want two image I want three
Image Awards for all lost one because I don't know
where it is that you know. And now mad because
when I wanted that, because I was the first one
I want, and I didn't feel to see the value
in it until now. So when you said mine's right there, hey, brother,

(20:51):
you damn right this right there because you wanted you want.
Keeps me humble though, because even after I wanted my
manager call and she was. She drove me home because
I was tired. I was on eight planes that week.
I just wrapped a show I was doing at four
am in Atlanta. I got on a plane at six
guy here at twelve, got dressed, got on his on
his red carpet one Emmy, and came right back home

(21:13):
and went to sleep, and got back on the plane
and left the next day. So it was it was
a whirlwind. And I remember being a car where her
We're driving and she's like, and the Emmys huge, just
like this big. It came in a huge box. And
she's like, you know, you gotta work even harder now.
And I'm like, can I just get a couple of
seconds to breathe? And she's like, no, You're gonna have
to work even harder because people don't think that, you

(21:35):
think you don't have the audition to do anything else.
And I'm like, oh no, never that. But that comes
from the hbc U mindset, you know. I mean, it's like, okay, cool,
thank you so much, we got that, but there's so
much more to go. I'm talking to the star Terence
to Rail, you know double HBCU are you know? Start
the series be Positive of CBS, produced by the incredible

(21:59):
Chuck glory Um. Just just just google his name. You
go this brother's blessed tears was blessed and he told
so the infamous black people listen up. He's small talk,
but let's talk about your character. Be positive, man. You
know you're an athlete. You know that really kind of

(22:19):
like being humbled by this barbio dialysis talk about you
because you really you know, when these characters, you know
where they have a lot of lines, a lot are not?
A lot are not? You still have to be able to,
you know, give a range and give a thought process
to where that characters is. You already got the natural bills,
so you look like an athlete. In fact, you actually

(22:40):
carried to lead out of one episode. How small as
this guy eighty pounds talking was so funny because they
said you have picked up so literally, I wasn't trying
to like I didn't know until I watched it. I
threw him up in the air. But when I saw
he threw him in the area. But it's so funny

(23:01):
because in high school and you know, you go through
these different things. And I was skinny and my head
always been this side since I was five. I always
look like babo head looking thing. So I started gaining
weight and getting bigger. I got hit one time playing
football in high school and I quit. I never played
so now so ironic, I get a football role and

(23:23):
then I get to, you know, shine a light on
my grandmother's actual journey through dialysis. And like you said,
it's it's a lot of work in multi cam. I've
done single cam, I've done drama. Those are literally a
walk in apart compared to multi camp. Multi cam. I'm
on set. We're practicing Monday through Wednesday, and then we
shoot Wednesday night. We shoot Thursday and Friday. So you're

(23:45):
working and you're acting from your toes all the way
up to your head. You're exhausted that night. So it's
a whole different type of sport. Yeah, that's a sport.
Multi cam is like going to the Olympics. It's like
you have to especially if there's a live audience, so
you have to make the joke, hold the joke because
you gotta think about when people laugh. You gotta come
back into the next line with the same energy that

(24:06):
you left off without dropping. Right. It's a lot, right,
you know, because I've done multis you know, Rod and
produced Jamie Foxx and Sister Sister, so I know it's
a lot of work, and even if you're not in
that moment and on camera, you gotta stay there because
the camera's on. They shot, Yeah, I think I was

(24:30):
gonna said last week. And we did three weeks straight.
Usually two weeks or two weeks, one week off. We
did three weeks straight and I was doing my scene
with Annelie and they said, okay, hold Terence moved for
the light. I saw her light and he like, no
to you. There's two cameras over. Let's talk about your book. Man.

(24:51):
I don't want to leave this interview without talking about
what's like. I said, you know, we go through these
things and we um we forget it how we got
where we are. And I feel like you never can
forget where you You have to see where you were
to know where you're going. So when I first started
these books, I was very you know, in the South,
we don't go to therapy, we go to church. So

(25:13):
I end up morning therapy getting some stuff out. And
I realized that I had a lot of insecurities from childhood.
So I didn't like my skin colder. I told you
about that story. So then I wrote a book about
a little dark boy Lawns what Melan it is. It's
called Blackie, which I've been called, but I turned into
the acronyms be loving or doing Karen and kind of
yourself about loving yourself. So for a little black boys,

(25:35):
showing them that their kings. Um. And then I wrote
the second one after my mother pass and she's Superheroes
every Day, educates us on DNA. Then the fourth third
book right here we go. Then the Crown kids were
bringing all the kids together, and then this last book
happened after the George Floyd. Um, I was. I'm a
mentor for Mrs Tina Knows loss In and Mr Richard

(25:57):
Tina's Angels and Richard's Law Uh Warriors, and we had
the week of George Floyd. The kids we had we
meet with them every Monday and they were crying, like, hey,
just imagine eighty kids in the zoom call you see
these windows and you can't touch them and hug him
and let them know it's gonna be okay because of
the pandemic. And they were crying and I'm turning my chair.
I'm crying, as Teena's crying. Everybody's crying, and um, the

(26:20):
Asian one of the little girls, just like are they
all kill me because of my I'm black, you know,
and I'm gonna be on the news and get shot
down because I'm black. And I just remember leaving a
meeting like what I'm not doing enough. I'm not doing enough.
I need to show them that they're special that, you know,
and um, skin Deep came up where when I tried
to wash my skin color off, and so that's when
I knew animated short that we're going up on Oscar for.

(26:43):
And then my Little Black Book where I'm educating the
kids on different things like you know, to sell the
marsh but also all these amazing inventors you know where
in the world would literally be dark, you know, because
we were responsible for the lightbulb as well. So so
my Little Black Book. So it's a series of book
and the whole brand is called Crowned Me because we

(27:04):
don't need to wait for anybody to tell us we're special.
You crown yourself and you tell yourself you're special. Because
in the books, the kids don't get any special powers.
The power comes from self love and self worth. At
the same time, I knew I had to own it,
so I own all my books, self published them, so
I own them right out. So money, money making conversations, right.

(27:25):
I got my ownership because we don't get top half
of the stuff that other people already know from from birth.
I mean, I don't even know what an investment account
was until a couple of days ago. I'm still learning.
We just have to open our minds to different things,
like now, how can we get this book is on
your website? Yeah, here we go, money make coming right?

(27:46):
So you go to I crown me dot com, which
is my website. At first, I wanted to be on
Amazon all these other stuff. But Amazon takes fifty to
seventy percent of your money if you sell on there.
So I'm like, so I sold a hundred and some
of the books there, and I remember getting a check
for less than two hundred dollars. This is my work.
Why am I giving you seting percent of my work?

(28:07):
And all y'all doing is put on website. So I
was like, let me do my own website and make
sure it's you know, efficient and so and plus I
like to sign each book and let the kids know
that I see them physically. It's a lot of work,
but I did it that way so I can own
my own stuff and now with these conversations coming up
this week, with dream Works and all these amazing people
who want to buy into my books or create the

(28:30):
series out of it. I it's just me. I don't
have to worry about a room full of people who
own part of my work. It's just me. I own
everything all the way down to the eyebrows. I love it, man,
And you know the beauty of this interview. Man, it's
just talking about a self built person. You know what
I'm saying, motivated by and not denied by who you

(28:50):
are because we don't get those those those people who
those people who try to I call him to step
into your dream and making an ugly experience. And you're
saying right now, your size, we're gonna stop you. When
you was born, we're going to stop you. Your color,
your skin wasn't gonna stop you. Then you flip the
switch and you're there for people who don't look like you. Yeah,

(29:11):
we have to we have to give it back. And
we can't fight this, this these crazy times with hate.
We can't fight the quote unquote racist with Hey, we
have to fight them with love and education. So you
can't fought somebody for being ignorant to a subject. Yeah,
I mean we can educate them on that subject and

(29:32):
after you do what you After I give your information,
you do what you want with it. But I've done
my part in this moment. So we just have to
leave with love. And I really really believe in that
and everything that you're going through. You know that's happening
for a reason. So the single mom, been on whearfair
food stamps, all that stuff built character for me. Now,
so I know that all of that happened for a reason.

(29:52):
So you have to walk and cry. You don't get
to sit and cry. You gotta walk and cry. CBS.
Be positive. That's the perfect name for who you are. Brother.
You are positive for man. When I just said it
and just looked at you smiling, when keep you couldn't
be on the better show this associate with your brand, man,
because you're positive. It's been and Chuck Lori of all

(30:13):
people and mark them what they were like, yeah you
know he did this? This This was like yeah, what
he can actually stop straight to the topazing he's rich man.
And so again I want to I'm gonna put the
link into my newsletter because I'm gonna I'm gonna send
you some direct money making conversation. He did it. I'm

(30:35):
gonna dropping in there. But more importantly, man, uh, I'm
looking forward to the commercials who tell your team to
get back to new Motar commercials so I can get
on my social media and just start helping you promote
your brand because as they say, you be positive, brother,
because you stay positive because you are positive. Okay, thank
you for doing what you're doing. Thank you for keeping
This is the best tererview R I've ever had. You

(30:55):
did a drum major move, so I'm good. This is
made by gow hey hey, hey man? Who what black dude? Who? Who?

(31:16):
I didn't thank you? God? It going on? Didn't want
to be you, didn't want to be you. That's going
hold hey, I'm telling something. I love you boy man again. Brother,
thank you for changing your set right if you came
with the fire, I was like, hold up down, you
ain't about to get me. Let me go switch. I'll

(31:36):
be right there the kid man. I love your brother,
and know that on your I'm on your list and
get this stuff I asked of you, and uh because
I want to sell some of your books and more
important that I I want to just keep pumping you up.
Because brother, you fight, you fight. Thank you and thank
you for all your love and your entity. Man, there's
nobody like you. You need more you Okay, I appreciate
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