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that dude, what's up with that? Dude? Man, I'm back
at the crib. As y'all can see, as y'all can hear,
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y'all can hear it in my voice, I'm feeling good today.
Not feeling great though. Let me tell you for real,
this trip was amazing. Man. It was so good that
it was one of those few trips that I actually
didn't want to leave. And that's rare for me because
I actually don't want to go in the first place.
So it's like when I don't want to leave. I
had a ball whoa great resort. More than that, just
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great times. Man. Ran into Jimmy Jackson, you know, JJ,
I don't know what else to say about that dude,
the most eligible bachelor. I don't know if he's single
or not, but I see him, I'd be like, damn.
Jimmy Jackson was the man on and off court for real.
So saw my boy, saw Jesse armstead Man beasts New
York Giants. He was out there chilling with the family.
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Everybody was hanging. But it feels good to be home,
my bed, my toothbush. Yeah, I took a toothbrush there,
but it's the one like you can clean the tires
with everything I take on the road. Man, it's just
to get back home. It ain't nothing that is at
the same level when I take it on the road.
So man, I gotta get that travel bug because my
wife has it to the fullest degree, and if I
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don't get it, just gonna cost some issues in our relationship.
So let me get some of that travel bug. Y'all
got that. I just hate. I hate the process, maybe
because just PTSD from playing days. You know, you're twenty
four years old, you playing in the city. I'm in Buffalo,
I'm in San Diego, got my nice pad, you know,
and I'm chilling, got my whole routine down, and then
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they just say, oh yeah, it about one o'clock. Just
be on this airplane and then we're gonna go somewhere.
We're gonna play a game. It's gonna hurt. You're gonna
come back a little sore, little blood and be fine.
See you monday. I had to do that for ten years,
and that's no complaining. It's just anything that's forced makes
you not necessarily appreciated for what it is. And look,
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for eight nine weeks of the year, you got forced
to go somewhere, and some of those places weren't worth going,
whether the team was that good or it's Green Bay, dog,
what are you doing out here? It's cold out tied.
They don't even want to be out here, let alone us.
But it was a great trip, but it didn't end well.
Let me tell you this. And man, this is sad,
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all right. So we getting off the airplane, and everybody's
getting off the airplane. Everybody knows the rules, right, all right.
You start on the right side, you start on the
left side. Who cares what side we start, but that
rod goes first. So roll one, then row two right left,
Roll three right left. Well, let's just say somebody from
row thirty something decided to bum rush, now not knowing
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the reason. It was a man holding his daughter and
he's running to the front and he gets stopped because
everybody else jumped up. Thirty rolls in front of him
like yo, And he stopped right in front of us,
and I'm like looking at him, like, all right, dog,
you're doing a whole lot, but you got your baby
with you. I got iteddy biddy, so I get it. It
may be an itdy bitdy emergency. And all of a sudden,
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I just heard now he stopped in front of me,
which were two dudes that were in front of me,
and then a couple rolls in front of them. Was
their security guard. At least that's the way it looked, right,
So if I had to assume, I think it was
two rappers in front of me and then a security guard.
That's how it looked. He didn't know what it looked like.
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If he was just trying to get off that plane
for his baby, I think, but in the process it
got gangster. So all of a sudden, I just hear.
The first thing I hear is I would never bump you, homie,
not with your daughter in your hand. Why would I
do that? And then next thing, you don't know, they
started going at it. Now. At first I was gonna
say something because I just wanted to keep the peace.
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But I've learned in these situations growing up post traumatic
stress from the hood. Anything said, we'll be turned against
you and used in the court of fist flying. So
I was like, man, I ain't about to say nothing,
but I'm gonna protect my eddy biddies and boy, I
don't want to have to bring out my defensive end skills,
but I will. So I bunkeered my family up and
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I'm just listening to see what the trigger words gonna
be and what's gonna set this off. Hopefully nothing. So
they are going at it back and forth, and I
couldn't believe the back and forth. Now, the dude who
got bumped, the dude who was getting up, and the
dude who was technically in his seat in his area
was like, dog, why are you still talking? You got
your daughter in front of you. And then the dude
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with the daughter kept woofing like, no, dog, you bumped
me in and I don't know why you acting like
this and what you think. You're a tough guy and
all that, and then whoever the dude was all of
a sudden say, look, I was trying to be respectful
because your daughter here, but now, hey, when we get
off this plane, put your daughter down. Let's talk about it.
You know what that meant. And then he starts saying
stuff like, yep, this dude don't know what he stepped into.
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He don't know who we are. And I was like,
oh damn, I said, I don't know who y'all are either,
but I know who y'all are. I know what's about
to happen. This dude with the daughter kept woofing, so
I went from at first neutral to totally against the
do with the daughter, just because your daughter there, and
I guess your wife, baby mama, whoever the hell and kids,
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come on, y'all do better, and all this time, I'm
just like, my kids are oblivious to it. Thankfully they
still had their earphones on. I made sure they did too,
with their eyepad. I don't want them hearing the curse
words that were leaking, and just the energy and just
why tough dog Like we both sitting here in the
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owl of an airplane departing and y'all tough, And I'm
sure somebody was trying to film it, and it was
so funny. This lady, this older lady, was sitting there
looking like they not even respected. I'm right here, so
I know I ain't got nothing to say, and that
was probably the saddest part. That nobody respected the environment,
the surroundings, the fact that there were itdy biddies right
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there just didn't give a damn. You imagine getting into
an argument about the fight while you're holding your daughter.
Ignorant to the fullest, All right, y'all, speaking of ignorant
to the fullest, that's what some of the sports reporter
critics are saying about FS one going all in on
Crag Carton. They call it a very strange gamble. All right,
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And I'm going to source and read this one a
lot of the facts of this story first and set
the table because frankly, I don't know a ton about him,
and I tried to watch the show when it first
came out, but I couldn't get through it. It wasn't
my cup of tea. Let's just say that. Plus, the
WNBA was on, so I watched that, and y'all know me,
if I wanted a WBA, whoo, ain't nothing else, so
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let me stop. So. When Craig Carton was sentenced to
prison for orchestrating the fraudulent multimillion dollar ticket resell scheme,
do y'all hear that that was one sentence. The judge
presiding over the case said his career was in tatters
and his reputation was lost. Well, Craig Carton, you have
and indeed descended into a hell of your own making.
That's what the judge said. Wow, a hell of y'all
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own making. Talk about it, and everything you spent a
lifetime of building up is gone. That's what the judge said.
But you're not the ultimate judge. That will be our guide,
that will be the universe. So let's just say, Judge
Colleen McMahon may have been a little wrong. Because while
Carton was sentenced at three and a half years behind
bars gavel hit the damn court, he was released after
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serving a little over a year. I guess he was
on good behavior. Right. Roughly four months later, he was
back on w FA n W Fan and seated in
a familiar drive time slot. All right, Carton's prison sentence
didn't destroy his career. Instead, it barely derailed it. Interesting,
and now he's received his biggest professional break yet, a
seventh figure contract with Fox Sports. I know that feels
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like so. Carton, who launched his own FS one show
last fall, announced last week he's joining the network full
time this summer. He's gone from prison inmate to national
TV hosts less time than a full presidential term. That's
what they say. This is the opposite of cancel culture. Yes,
we know, Carton's resurrection is amazing. Let's stop down right here. Okay,
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So full time means what no more radio committed fully
to just doing the Carton show, the TV show. Let's
talk through this all right. So Fox, the national network
is going all in on a convicted criminal who defrauded
fans to fuel his gambling addiction. Back in twenty seventeen,
Carton resigned from w FAN morning duties after being arrested
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damn by the FBI on charges that he ran a
pose like skiing. Carton and his partner solicited investments from victims,
including the Manhattan Hedge Fund, and claimed they were using
that money to buy and sell concert tickets a hedge
fund to get some damn Beyonce tickets. Well they do
cost a grip. Beyonce tickets costs twish, but still, damn
I had fun, except they weren't going to the concerts.
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Carton was using that money to pay off his ever
increasing gambling debt. Making sense, I know a lot of
y'all don't know all this. Hope. I hope y'all don't,
because I didn't. In the HBO documentary, he said he
borrowed over thirty million dollars to gamble with as part
of his twenty eighteen sentence, and he was ordered to
pay nearly five million in restitution. Yeah, where's my restitution?
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Carton is the face of the sportsbook Fan Duel's efforts
to combat problem gambling and host a Saturday show on
WFAN about the same topic. Y'all, catch that had a
gambling problem, went out there and actually just got over
on people in his gambling efforts. And then it's now
getting paid from two companies to talk about this gambling problem. Oh,
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to deter you from having a gambling problem, all right.
So he's the face of all of those topics, all
of those things, with all of those entities, And it
didn't take long for him to regain his form his swag.
When he returned to Wfan in the fall of twenty twenty,
Carton and Evan Roberts demolished ESPN's michaelkay I heard of
him in the afternoon ratings, nearly tripling him in the
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last book. Damn, Carton put a stop to the legacy
station's post Francesca faltering. Ah. Now I see that in
New York local radio, which is not local. That sucker
is major. With that in mind, it's understandable why are
to c W fans parent company puts so hard to
repair Carton. Ah, he's a cash cow. But Fox's fascination
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with the loud mouth host. That's their words, not mine.
It's harder to fathom. Carton has never proved he can
draw ratings and hasn't gotten much better, not on a
national level. Okay, So, in fact, the Carton Show has
been a complete bust. Damn. That's the word I hate using,
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but that's what they wrote. Ah. The Carton Show debut
to strikingly low ratings and hasn't gotten much better. Program
average fifty eight thousand viewers per episode, making it one
of FS one's lowest rated offerings. Skip Bayless led Undisputed
average one hundred and seventy three thousand viewers per episode
during that same period, First Things First and Colin Coward
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Simocas each average one hundred and thirty thousand eyeballs per show.
Speak is currently the nineteenth most popular show on FS
one and narrowly eclipses the Carton Show and daily viewers. Damn,
let me tell y'all what y'all just heard. Now, let
me wait a second, let me get into it. At
a glance, the Cardon Show resembles every other sports debate
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show on TV. Carton and his cohort of ex athletes,
often Brandon Jennings, Tim Hardaway, My Dogs, and Cody Decker,
gab about the day's trending topics and fielder analysis with
plenty of cliches. Take their recent discussion about show, Heya
Tani for example, That's what they said, listen to this Carton.
He stands while the former athletes sit. That was the
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first thing I know about the show. I was like,
I remember Colin Cowerd when he first got into the
new format of FS one, had a huge issue with
him looking like he was the Emperor and everybody else
was just sitting there as descendants, like sitting there like, oh,
build my pyramids. And I think they altered that set
because of that. So it creates this weird teacher student vibe.
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They say, declared the angel star Tombowl Tani can't be
the best player in sports if his team never makes
the postseason. All right, I'm sure I've said something crazy
like that before, which is not profound. All right, So
here's here's one of the comments they have. This guy sucks.
It's easy. The worst show in FS one and the
fact that he's a convicted feeling for some kind of
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wire fraud is giving the morning spot and moving all
around all the other shows to make space for this fraud.
A joke, big mistake. FS one and the rating show
that can't even break sixty thousand in the country of
hundreds of millions of sports fans, tells me, I'm not
the only one who feels this way. ESPN says, thanks,
so wow. The Carton Shows Twitter account doesn't even boast
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eight thousand followers. Carton's clips often barely attract a dozen likes.
They're going in on Carton. Whoever. This is New York,
this is a New York report. But damn they must
knowing the Carton Shows. Let me see that. The New
York Post Andrew Marshan writes that there is hope among
some of FS one that Carton will perform better on
TV once he's freed of his radio duties. Ah That's
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why we talked about him now being full time. Now, indeed,
he was working a crazy schedule. They said, two thirty
in the morning, got up for TV, and I didn't
get to the crib, got back home at eight o'clock
every night. Hard to believe those hours were conducive to
making the best program impossible. In other words, Carton's work
is cut out for him, but there is some belief
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he can do it. Okay, let's talk about this first.
All right, let's talk about where he is and what
he's done to FS one in terms of that, because
he has the morning show, as they mentioned right here,
and by having the morning show, everything else obviously shifted,
and everything else kind of drafts off of what you do.
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So the morning show has to set the tone. Come
down on kickoff. Remember that you hear Coach Sobey saying
come down on kick off? Set the tone. Well, the
morning shows set the tone, just like on ESPN, Get
Up sets the tone. And there was a time when
Get Up, when they first started, basically wasn't setting the
tone and it was messing with ESPN. All of a
sudden they got it right, they got their formula down
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and bam, so FS one is thinking the same thing.
I do know. One of the mantras of FS one
is don't count the first year. So it's only been
one year for Carton, so no one upstairs is really
holding that against them, at least that's what they say.
But I can tell you this, that's what they say,
not necessarily what they mean, because Carton gave up his
radio gig, and I'm sure it was some applied gentle
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pressure from FS one, like Bruh, fifty eight thousand viewers
a year later and you're doing two show and maybe
your radio is killing it. I don't know, but you
want to keep this gig. We're gonna have to fix
something because we can't run it back the same way
and expect different results. That's insanity, right, doing something the
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same way expecting different results. So I think there was
some gentle pressure, you know me, I talk stories in
HD Hypothetical Detective. I think there was some pressure placed
on them to get rid of that radio and have
a clean slate. They told me that when I first
came from radio with Max Killerman, but Max already went
the first take. They were telling me, a Marcellus, we
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don't want you to do radio I was like, why not.
I like radio, it's amazing. They're like, we want to
keep the energy clean, all right, So maybe they did.
Maybe they did. I think they did. Now what else
is going on over there? Let's talk about the Carton Show.
So fifty eight thousand starts it off, and y'all got
to catch this. So Skip leads it over there, right,
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because he makes the most money, Skipping Shannon. They had
the highest rated show over there. Now it used to
be clearly Colin number two. What I noticed in this article,
what I noticed in this review was First Things First
is right there with Colin. I don't know their averages,
but for this book, for this amount of time, they
were at the same amount of viewers, one hundred and
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thirty thousand. Right, that's good if you're on First Things First.
Because Nick Wright is groom to be the next Colin Coward.
I love Nick Wright. I think he's amazing at what
he does. A lot of people do, some don't welcome
to life. But I think that's he's on the fast track,
that doing exactly what he wants to do over there
or anywhere. Frankly, Colin is just a Staples. So Colin
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is like all right. Well, you know, we've been doing
this forever, so there's ebbs and flows. I'm sure he's
gonna make some Wall Street reference or something, as he
always does, you know, like Starbucks, and it's just you
just go up and down with it. But Colin's fine speak.
Currently the nineteenth most popular show. That's not good because
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they're hovering close to the Carton. Then you want to
if Carton is getting all this bad press right, But
once again, first year together, new chemistry, different casts, new
people win. So you know, you got slick Rick sometimes
and you don't, you got Daves sometimes you don't, that
kind of stuff, so this first year is not gonna
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count against them. And obviously Shady I, Chow and Joy
so pretty low ratings at the bottom, but at the
same time to first year shows. So let's just put
an asterisk by that and see how it goes going forward. Man,
let me tell you the thing that's interesting about this
is how this show is formatted. It just looks really dry.
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I'm not saying it is because frankly I don't even
get through it, but you know, it's funny doing shows
that you don't like. That was something that I would
find sophisticated ways to let the audience know that I'm
in on it with y'all, Like I ain't feeling this either,
but I'm doing this. And I was blessed to really
do the shows I liked because I showed personality early
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and it was kind of scary. It was actually a
little daring. Most people said, like dog, stick to the
exes and o's because that's what's gonna get you paid.
Got to remember I started this. My first show was
local show Buffalo ninety seven, went from there to the
NFL network day one when they opened up two thousand
and three. So this is two x'es and o's now
now the third and Goal, third and Goal, fourth and
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Goal shows, then NFL Live and Sports Center, so I
just stayed in that narrow space, you know, and then
I just start being me from Hello and finally Jamie
Horowitz and others that concocted Sports Nation, and that was
my way to show personality and show more of who
I was. And then I got swept away a little
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bit into the debate stuff, even though it was supposed
to be sports In the debate, Maxie Marcel's won a debate,
But culture is what's rewarded. So every time we did
it our way, there was always this like pool like,
nah just argue, Nah, find some contention, Nah, just beef
And I was like, I dang. So anybody who wants
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to make it to the top, Shady Aicho. People that
can make it to the top and that want to
get to the top, you're gonna see him being more
argumentative than not because they see that's what wins, right,
You're smart, Like human nature is like what's the best
way in path to success. I'm gonna try it, even
if that's not your personality, even if it's not the
way you really want to do it. You can tell
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I think Shady just want to pop off, You just
want to get his out, just say it like it is.
I think Acho wants to be the star and then
the process of being the star, will do it anyway
to get to shine. So but his style, I think
Acho style is a little more introspective, a little deeper.
You know, you see him on a panel or a
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graduation speech, or him being moderator, Like Acho likes to
really break it down. But you can see them now
on this show kind of in that moderator role. So
that's good. For him. Let's see how these shows play out.
My question to you guys is did Fox make a
mistake hiring Carton? Which y'all think? And why do you
think they did it? I ain't gonna lie. It was
a roll of the dice and one of the packages
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we were going through negotiations, and one of the packages
was like, all right, you go do first things first,
and then while you're there and you also do some Carton.
I was like, let me look at this show. And
that's when I saw it, and I was like, no, sir,
not me. I was like, build my locker, and they
built my locker back here like Fox did see all
this love and we were gonna do a different show
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than that didn't because I wanted to do all the
shows and so that's how it goes. But all things
respected from them. Man, I just want to see how
this show's going to turn out. I wouldn't bet on it,
but let's see how they do in their second year.
Is it fair for Carton to being his position position
considering his record? I mean, I'm asking you, guys more
than me, Like I believe in redemption. I believe in
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you know, second chances. You will say second chances like
that's it. I believe the third chances depends on what
you did. But this is pretty bad. Thirty million dollars
for gambling? God, dang, I need to know his contacts.
First of all? How are you gonna be a hedge fund? Dude?
Give somebody thirty million dollars? Whoever y'all are and didn't
vet it? Ignorant? All right? And do y'all think he will?
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And this show will be successful on Fox? Or will
it flop? All right? Well, let's talk about something that
did flop, The marriage of Camora Lee Simmons and Russell
Simmons Man and Kamora and Naoki Lee Simmons air out
Russell Simmons over a less threats and unhinged behavior. Yeah
they're going in, all right. So Kamora Lee Simmons doesn't
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play when it comes to her children. We hear so.
The single mother of five took to Instagram after her
ex husband, Russell Simmons, the maker of Crushgroove. Let's just
pause right now. He made Crushgroove. Could he do anything
wrong in this world? Maybe? So shaded her in a
series of career the posts he did. They shared two
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daughters mean and aoki and the fat farm founder was
seemingly set off the day prior when meing twenty three,
which kimor who's forty eight a happy Father's Day? Oh
oh passive aggressive? Somebody upset man. That hurts as a pop,
as a mom, whoever you are, if they go there,
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if it's happy Mother's Day, and then my kids start
texting me thank you daddy, Happy Mother's Day. First of all,
I'm like, damn, y'all dumb now. Then second thing, I'll
be like, uh, that ain't right. Like the adult in
the room, I wouldn't even accept that as a compliment.
I'd be like, y'all better stop disrespecting and put some
respect on yo mama. All right, so we know. Russell
Simmons sixty five shared an image that read stopped telling
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fathers they should have fought harder to see their children
and start asking mothers while we had to fight at all.
Woo whoa now UPHI thirty thousand feet that statement lands.
That statement drop, though, But it's not particular that every
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situation that's not generalized. But in general, man, the system
is rigged and the system is telling mamas y'all got it.
The only way you're gonna take a kid from their
mama is if she's a drug at it or she
I mean not even neglectful, like she had to just
be absent. Not neglect. Neglect is like you're checking in,
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but you're not checking in enough. Neglect won't do it.
Absence like mama just left for a few days or something,
and you got to prove something like that or be
a drug at it. Other than that, you ain't taking
no kid from the mama. Seriously, man. I always say
it's the difference between milk and sperm. Man. As much
as sperm gives life, milks and stains it, damn it,
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and them kids be on the milk, be on the
tit forever. So Ah, tough fight brothers, tough fight fathers.
So the next post read the father you have that
the perfect father for the evolution of your soul and
lessons that you needed to learn in this lifetime. Spiritual
on them. Huh. It's hard to argue with the esoteric.
So he's big on them all right. So this led
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Kamora on Aoki to address his shade and the Less
Stress on Instagram Live. The latter shared screenshots from a
conversation between her and her father where he claimed, oh
my goodness, Kamora has stolen his money and called her
a piece of shit. All right, now, I'm getting too deep,
all right. So we also read that the Harvard graduate
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recently said I've had enough. I've always had it. I
was always a daddy's girl. You can see that in
any picture. But he's been awful to me for years.
And that's just the truth. It's like talking to a
cruel child or something. And no, he does not support
me financially. You had me and to the end, like
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it's weird, like people become people become the lyrics to
what they think others are singing. Like everybody looks at
Russell Simmons and looks at that situation, be like, Okay,
the love language got to be financial as well, you
feel me, And that's not necessarily the case, but she
felt the need to talk about the love or the
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lack of love she's getting from her father and bring
it to the finances as well. I guess I've never
been in that predicament, so I guess it's okay. I
hate it, though, I hate that you're talking about how
your father's treating you and we got to go to
the money. You just graduated from Harvard. Let's just say
he doesn't owe you to take care of you at
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this point. But every family's different, different strokes for different folks.
So let's talk about Aoki does believe her father's experiencing
some sort of mental issue. That's not for you to
diagnose Aoki, But okay or is it right? She know
her daddy, but at the same time, she's like, no,
daddy's over here, Tripp. She also shared a screen recording
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of a FaceTime call with Russell where he was visibly
yelling and really as she was very emotional. Man, they
on a campaign right now. Now. I'm not saying that
none of it's justified, but damn ah, if you really
care about Papa, Papa got a mental illness. Papa ain't
taking care of you, no love, he ain't taking care
of you financially. Why do you want us to join
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that party against him? Kind of reminds me of when
we saw a little Romeo going against Master p. It's
like y'all supposed to work. Now. Some things is just
not social media right. Some things is not to be
discussed for those in the public, like you are really
trying to get us on your side. We ain't gonna
make Russell Simmons act better than you. We ain't gonna
make your daddy love you more. You love your daddy more.
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So why are we involved all of my kids? Ever? Boy?
That's the podcast y'all need to listen to. If my
kids ever, that's what I'm gonna call it. Boy, It's
gonna be long and short. During Kamora's lives, she claimed
that Russell cut off Ming and Aoki before they were
set to graduate. This piggyback from Aoki's allegation that he
intentionally revoked access to her debit card while she was overseas,
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leaving her stranded. Mm okaying, the Baby Fat owner mentioned
that she been carrying financially over the past ten years,
carrying Russell when it came to keeping his companies afloat.
She also claimed that she has countless receipts to prove
that Russell has been putting up a facade that he
is on good terms with her and their children, which
Kamora says, it's far from the truth. Okay, I got
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to give them some credit for something, because so far
I ain't got nothing. What the hell like you stranded
in Europe because daddy didn't take care of you. You
got a mama, You got yourself. Let me stop. In
separate posts shared to her stories sound like a lot
of victim in here to retire supermodel row. I'm so
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sorry they have to do this, but this man has
been threatening my kids' lives. Okay, now we're talking. Now,
I'm with you. I'm hearing so much more. Now we
won't be bullied, threatened, or afraid. There you go, adding
the same abusive ish. This is how you maneuver with
the world and women all around you. Your threats and
lives and intimidation maneuvers and tactics are sad. Stop it.
Please your own flesh and blood. Enough is enough now.
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Eighteen women have accused Russell of sexual misconduct, but he
insists he's innocent. Aoki also mentioned that Russell has even
sent men to intimidate me and get her apartment in
the middle of the night, and says he was drastically
different before the accusations came to like, oh, now we
get into a story. Prior to his media issues, he
was really the best dad ever and a great co parent.
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He and my mom were best friends, she wrote, We
all defended him against anything, and then he suddenly turned
on anyone who would let him lash out. So really
just terrifying change to watch. Russell sued come owing her
now ex husband, Tim Lessner in March twenty twenty one.
He insinuated they tried to fraudulently transfer nearly four million
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dollars of his shares and celsius. Damn. Russell had four
million in celsius he eaten to help pay for listeners
bail and legal fees stemming from his twenty eighteen money
launder in case. They denied the claim and called it
extoorce of harassment. All right, and we all know that
Kamor and Russell met while she was in high school
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or even earlier. I mean, hey, yeah, back then. They
wed in nineteen ninety eight and divorce in two thousand
and nine. All right, Other than him making crush groove,
I can't defend them fully. Let me talk through this.
Let's go to this story in HD because this hurts
in so many ways. Hypothetical detective right here, this sounds
like the classic definition of anger from Russell. If all
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of this is true, this is anger. Anger is contempt
for your reality. Anger is being annoyed with your reality.
Anger is not accepting your reality. So maybe Russell Simmons,
the Great Russell Simmons death Jam, Yes we know death
Comedy Jam. Yes we know Crushgroove again, Yes we know
that guy, all of a sudden is beyond angry at
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the reality he has to live in. Imagine all of
that equity he built up, and he built it up
at a time when nobody else was building it. Russell
Simmons was Russell Simmons before we even knew what a
Russell Simmons could be. Who else go? I mean, I
mean Quincy Jones over there or something. But Chrissy Jones
was doing the art form that they said would last.
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Rap wasn't supposed to laugh you imagine investing your whole
being is something that they say wouldn't last, And not
only did it last, you made it the number one
art form in our world of music, the number one genre.
And you were the dude, you were the king. You
had little babies, You had little puffies come out of
you in shugs, babies like real babies, like baby oh man, unreal.
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And now this imagine that urn, Imagine that turn left,
turn on the freeway, fout into the center divider. Why,
because you get it. Q's the q's, the q's, the q's,
the q's, the q's. And even if you're innocent, even
if you're never jailed for it, your reputation is sullied.
Your reputation is stained. Full life, like mac ten said,
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full life gone. Every time you see Russell Simmons, no
matter yoga. I saw him maybe a couple months ago
some party, and it's just like, I mean, it can't
leave your head. It's just it is what it is,
I mean, and it's in his head. I'm certain. I'm certain.
So let's just say that is a classic anger. Just
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can't stand your reality. Even though you still may have
five dollars, even though you're still super famous, even though
you still have access, you just looking at everybody that
looks at you like they looking at you like you're
a predator. Real talk, man, Ain't no way out of
that unless you just don't give it. Damn. You gotta
be cut different. Some people don't give it, damn, and
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some people do. You know, just simple I'm gonna put
no names to that, because nobody wants those false accusations
or real accusations, I don't know, but you're gonna have
to cut yourself off into that connection to the social
community because they're great in you. And if you think
you're always a failing student, we'll guess what your test
gonna look like. F's all right, so full disclosure. Let
me just get this out too. Also, I know the family.
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I don't know Russell that well. I mean I've seen
him and said hi and he said hi back and
whatever that is. But comorrow, Yes, their son is an
amazing little dude. I love this little dude. I'm not
gonna put his name out there in the context of
this story, but he's on my back to back to time, Yes,
Championship flag football team. Little man's a beast too, super athletic, tall, lean, move,
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a lot of talent in there. He's fast, gentle, gentle, now,
super kind, mannerable, all that. All that. Here's one thing, though,
got a shell, and I'm gonna bring it out of
I'm getting that turtle out that ship. He's in the shell.
Like you can see, his confidence isn't exactly where it belongs.
But every kid has their issue, so I'm like his
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issue is, Hey, believe it before you achieve it, Like,
just believe it already, dall you fast, you good go.
He waits till he does it, and then he's like
you can just see him light up like, oh my god,
I did it. I'm like, oh, you could do it
every time you got the gifts. Don't get it twisted. Yeah.
So I'm hoping that none of this is bleeding over
into the entire family. But that was just a line
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I just read and said it is. You know, it
has to like you can't you can't beef at the top.
The most important relationship in the family is not parent
to kid. It's not mama the daughter's mama the son.
It's not father the daughter father of the sons. It's
mama to father because that's where the kids learn love.
You always catch your kids just peeking at you. They
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just looking. That's how they learned, because that's how I learned.
I remember I got vivid images of my dad in
the car and me just in the backseat looking at
him diagonally like is he nice? Is he happy? Is
she looking at the road? I'm just looking at the car,
like what daddy up to? And that's how you learn
that's how you get wired. And then it's whoa talking
about trying to rewire somebody hard as hell, so you know,
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support to this family, but y'all, we can't help, y'all.
I mean, you're giving me stuff to talk about, so
I could talk about the intersection of life and sports
and all the things I like to do in terms
of lessons and hopefully you know I dropped the gym
for you guys. But in all seriousness, some stories I
don't even need to report on, not because I won't
report them because I don't need to hear about it.
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Y'all got to fix that, man, Come on, y'all pull
it together, all right? Speaking of somebody who need to
pull it together, and let me just say they ain't.
Ex porn star Mariah Mills threatens to leak allege Zion
Williamson's sex tapes soon as the trade rumors were heating up.
And then here's an update on that because she can't
stop Thurston. Mariah Mills's Twitter accounts suspended after Zion willing
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some sex tape threats. Wow, she lost her Twitter, cunt,
You lost her Twitter account under Elon Musk No has
doing too much? You already know that. Now here's another update.
Mariah Mills gets Zion's name tattooed on her face, which
was a fake. Gotta be a fake. I ain't see
no red swelling or nothing. I ain't man. I got
two tattoos, ugly as hell to there's one yuck. Here's
another one yuck, and they hurt. That was my arm.
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You talking about your face, your cheek? Girl? Stuff? All right,
So let's get through this story so we have some
fun and talk some gems. Mariah Mills' prolonged Scorched Earth
campaign on Twitter directed at Zion Williamson. It's over ov
a like Drake, at least for the time being, because
Mills and the only fans, model and former adult film
star who was jilted when Williamson and his girlfriend Akima
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the b through a gender not the Be, not ab
the b Re Mirya keilnd theb Oh God, I love
that movie. Akima threw a gender revealed party earlier this month,
had her Twitter account suspended on Tuesday. Yes you did, Mariah,
Me and Mariah. Twitter has not disclosed the reason Mills's
account was suspended, other than for unspecified violation of the
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platform's rules, but it is presumable that the decision was
made after she threatened to leak a sex tape. God
dang it involving Williamson. I'm glad that Twitter does have rules,
because everything has rules. There's no such thing as freedom
of speech. Fully like, you ain't got full freedom, Like
you can't roam the whole planet. You can go between
these borders, but you can't roam the whole planet in speech.
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So the NBA, this is what she says, NBA, I
have sex tapes. Let me say it in her verse, NBA,
I have sex tapes of me and Zion Wimson and
he also has them on his trap phone. Oh god,
she trade him now? He doesn't deserve to be in
New Orleans sex tapes dropping soon? Not thank Oh God?
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What is wrong with hurt? Trade him now? He trade
them so he can't. So he hurts you and you
got sex tapes like we ain't gonna see him and
other teams and other cities and other parts of the
country and see them. But get them out of New Orleans.
I don't want them in New Orleans. I want them
in Charlotte. What the hell? Her Instagram account has also
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been set to private. Ooh, I wonder if they did
that or she did that. They might be flooding or man.
Ain't nothing like when you're in a firestorm. I don't
know if y'all ever been in the firestorm. I've been
in there before. I ain't shut nothing down. All I'm
gonna do is mute you at the most, because I'm
like dog, I can't see all of this is gangster
them these shots. I can't duck all them. I ain't
Neo and the Matrix dunking all these shots. But it's hilarious,
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like you'd be like, damn motherfuckers hate me seriously. So
Mills is weeks long. Tirade began earlier in June, after
Keema and Williamson announced that they were respecting the baby
girl this November. So the tweets continue to be graphic, profane, silly, ignorant, thirsty.
She tweets about them daily and excessively. Yes, she does
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also share screenshots and messages allegedly from Williamson. This is
it's the worst, implying that he had offered to fund
her move to New Orleans. I mean, all right, he offered.
He didn't come through on the offer. Partly because you
probably just wolf. If you would have just shut up
and say, hey, Zon, hey man, I see you about
to have that baby over there. Can I have my
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apartment over there too? Still, maybe he still would have
connected it hooked you up, but damn you went scorts
earth full. Eventually, Mills worked out the math of the
timeline to conclude that the apparent conception occurred surely after
Valentine's Day while she was hold up, hold up they
hold up at home following complications from butt reduction surgery. Man,
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what is going on with this world? We got we
got cyborgxiut here. She's gone to far Limps to try
to get Zion's attention. She literally, no, she got his attention.
She just ain't gonna get him to respond, because to
ignore is to pay attention, y'all. That's a whilism. I'm
gonna going through that one a little bit later another day.
To ignore us to pay attention. Oh, she got his attention,
but he gonna ignore her. He ain't responded. She literally
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appears to have gotten his name tattoo on her face.
Stephen A. Smith's reaction was hilarious. He said, my goodness,
why why I didn't Mariah Mills tattoo Zion's name on
her face. She either had a damn good time with
him or it's just insanely desperate for retention. My god,
man tripping, tripping. Ooh, this is ooh, ooh, this is
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a dude's worst nightmare. Girls too, but girls used to it.
Dude stalkers, dudes of stalk, Dudes a stalk and it's normal,
Like why you follow me around the grocery store? Oh oh,
I was just looking for peanut butter, Like that's normal
for a girl. I ain't normal for a dude. This
curl flipping it on him. This is sad. When a
soft porn star sees you get a stripper pregnant, she
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loses her mind. That's what this story is about me.
Let me break this down. Let me give y'all some love. Okay,
So you're a soft porn star whatever, OnlyFans is, whatever
you want to call it. I ain't this nobody. I'm
just saying, we got to call her something. And then
you see that you're her friend, boo side piece whatever,
got a stripper pregnant? Cash rules everything around me? Creamed
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it right? You see the receipts you see that he
got a stripper pregnant, and you lose your mind because
you're thinking you now had a better chance at Zion
and his pot of gold. Then you realized before let
me give it to you like this. She didn't realize
it in the moment because Zion gained her. So now
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she's hot one hundred. Let's just say this, let's play
this out all right. It's a sick play because basically,
if she were a good girl, probably would have stayed
comfortably in her place as the side piece, because she like, oh,
he got his family over there, and I don't want
all that smoke. I don't want all that noise. Look,
Zion looks out for me. Girl. His per diem is
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good for me. His per diem is my life savings.
So I'm not tripping if she were a good girl.
But when it's a stripper and you are a soft
porn girl, now y'all a little too close for comfort,
and you like, wait a minute, he coming at me like,
I can't really let everybody know about us one because
I got my you know, my life, my girl, my ball.
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But two and you know what you do that ain't
good for the brand. And then he she find out
not only do you do it, you did it with
a stripper and got her pregnant. We then why the
hell you been telling me to just chill out? What?
Too close right? Too much to handle, too close to paradise,
to be shocking up on the low, hiding away when
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you could have been out in the public too, if
you got a stripper doing gender reveals having your baby
while you got me hiding away in the ConA y'all
catching this? So basically, she got a lotto ticket, like
one of those lotto tickets that got five winning numbers.
You ever seen those people get. They get a few
hundred thousand dollars, a few tens of thousand dollars, but
they don't get no mega millions. They don't get no
nine hundred and thirty eight million. You got a lot
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of ticket with five I win in numbers, and they
wouldn't let you scratch the sixth one to see if
they you could have won it. All. That's how she feels,
That's how you would feel. That's how she feeling, y'all.
She like, Oh Zion hit me back, Oh Zion came through.
Oh he texted me, Oh girl, he filming us doing it.
Oh girl, he let me film us do it. Oh girl,
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here's the fifth number. Oh girl, he said it's all good.
He got me, he moving me out there. Okay, I'm
about to scratch the sixth one. All of a sudden,
you know the penny. I always use a penny. I
use a penny if I could find a penny. Now
whe're pennies at get a penny. And Zion didn't let
her get the sixth one. He didn't let her know
if she could win it all. And then she finds
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out she could have won it all over there booing
up and getting strippers pregnant. That's how she's said. Crazy story.
So whoa, this is the gift that keeps on giving
of ignorance. I wish, oh, I wish they shut all
her platforms down, not forever, just until she or just
just find some kind AI technology Colton. Whenever she writes
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something about Zion and can't get Nope, can't press in.
Say whatever you want, say that it's a beautiful day,
Say a girl, look at my butt, Say whatever you want.
Fellas nine ninety nine, come on, log in whatever. But
when it's got Zion in, it can't go That's the
only thing I think should happen right here. Man. She
will not be silenced though, right now. Let's talk about that.
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Y'all think she should have been suspended from Twitter? Y'all
think that that was actually the right call? Does her
behavior concern you? I shouldn't even ask that question? How
much does her behavior concerned? All? Right? She crazy? Like
for real? She cracks. Oh, this is a nightmare. Oh
when I was in them streets. Oh lord, oh man,
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I don't miss some crazies too, but this is next level. Man,
Poor Zion. He gonna have to wear this forever too,
like she's gonna have to wear that face tattoo. All
all right, y'all, that'll do it. For more to it,
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