May 9, 2024 • 48 mins
Jasmine joins Tori and Aneesa for an extra spicy episode of the podcast! The Challenge vets discuss alliances vs. friendships, a curveball down in the elimination sand and Jasmine's new nickname.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's up everyone on Tory Deal And I'm Anissa Ferira
and this is MTV's official challenge podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Anissa this episode, take a seat.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Take a seat, dude, take a fucking seat. I can't
it was good. It All Stars never ever disappoints.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, it really doesn't.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
The only thing that I found disappointing was, you know,
Brad running the wrong direction and fucking up the challenge again.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I mean, I don't like to talk about that later,
but sure, yes, I mean this this musical Chairs in
the Stadium. I feel like whenever there's a stadium, some
shit's about to go down.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It just like when you look at a stadium and
you're there, Like it's already exhausting to think about getting
from one side of the stadium.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
To the other.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Now they're playing a game where you literally have to
dart across the entire thing, and like we've all been
in stadiums before, most likely, like you know how tight
those seats are and how badly your knees hurt when
they're pressed up against them. Now you to bulldoze people
out of the way, but we're seeing people get tossed
all around the place. Cam gets pushed to the bottom,
she gets up, shakes it off for Veronica gets pushed.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean like it is a it's a straight up
musical chair brawl. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm just happy that we see new winners this time. Yeah.
And I feel like Ace was on the first All
Stars and maybe was that the only one or did
he go on another one?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Why?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I know I had an early departure. I feel like
he's a little bit more at home here and then
he gets this win with Nicole. I'd like to see
new winners. I like to see how things are gonna
shake down. Who's gonna be in the middle group, who's
going to be in the losing group.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And I love that we get to see Leroy and
Cam as a partnership and see how they work together.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And I was really actually shocked because like that first group,
if you were part of the winners, then you got
a thirty second bonus, and you most likely assumed that
all of those players were going to make it into
the middle group or even the winning group.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But Adam and Flora pushed through.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
They were in the losing group the first time, and
then they made it into the mid grou So I
really enjoyed that they still fought their way out of
that position that they were in.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And like you said, the fact that Ace and Nicole
one was so nice.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Especially because Kara didn't want to work with Ace on.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
This one, I know, right, Like I kind of love that.
It really goes to show you never know, you never know, dude,
and like you don't want to count Ace out. Ace
is obviously somebody who like he just seems like a
great guy.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I follow him on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
He's always posting the sweetest things about animals, Like he's
such a good dude, cares about the environment, and like,
I love.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That he got his win today and he got a
good start.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm also happy that there's this middle group. I
love that, like there are clear cut winners and then
like you still have a shot to like be safe, yeah,
which I'm really into.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I mean, this episode got spicy, and I think like
we had all been kind of anticipating what's gonna happen
with this beef between Jasmine and Kara, and now you
can see like the tides have really turned and Jasmine
has become you know, a target and car in the
middle group, and she has this amazing sway on everybody.
What did you think when you were watching her communicate
with everybody and kind of like force her vote on people.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean maybe they
were thinking, like, in the future, Kara can be on
my team and she's good, so let's listen to her.
She has a star. We might not want to.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I don't know. I don't know. But it also is
when somebody spearheads something, it's easy for everybody else who
like went with it to then point back at the
person who had the original idea. So instead of like
you know, ruffling any other feathers or like causing any waves,
they're like, okay, well we can go here. We can
kind of like wash our hands of this a little, right, Yeah,
(03:45):
you know. And I mean Car did two things. She
got Jasmine in and she blocked cam. The cam called
it like you blocked me. Okay, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I mean it was as much as there is a
lot of you know, Car got a lot of heat
this episode in terms of showmanship. In gameplay, it is
entertaining to watch there'd be two equal sides that have power,
Like Car has gained control of the middle of this episode,
by convincing Jay and Avery to vote with her, and
Camoff also has a lot of alliances as well, so
we're seeing like these two people who were originally friends
(04:19):
separate into two different alliances and really go against each other.
And there are some really big power players skating underneath
the surface, and like, obviously one of them and I
love Laurel to death, but one of them was Laurel, Like,
she is probably one of the best females to ever
play the game, and her name is not coming up
at all except for on a burn vote.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Which was like whoa.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, people also want to work with her, but they
also fear her. You know, you don't want to run
against Laurel in a final. She also don't want to
go against Laurel in elimination, right, so you're kind of
like stuck between a rock and a hard place. Mm hmm.
That's how that goes.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That's that's a good That was a good quote, Anisa,
that was a very good quote, said correctly, what do
you think of a yeah? Yeah, What do you think
about Steve and Keifler going in?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I hate it because they both seem like such nice guys.
We've had Keith La on the podcast, he was nothing
but sweet. He was completely entertaining, And these little injuries
can really can really mess with you. And minus the
you know, take out the size difference. I mean, an
injury can change all of that. Uh, Steve's skill and
(05:30):
knowledge of wrestling can you know, benefit him. So it
was unfortunate, But I don't know who else they really
could have, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Picked No.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, it was a good matchup, like they put on
a great show, and I'm sure it was even more
incredible in person. I think I knew Steve was gonna
win when the beginning of this episode started with Steve
in the Wild and Aces in.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Places like, Aces in Places was the best shit I've
ever seen. All he did was just being random. Place
is sleeping. Oh, I've never seen any buddy sleep like
baby sleep like that. Dude, like half on the thing.
I'm like, what in the narcolepsy is going on? But
Steve in the Wild was incredible? Actually, I put it
in my notes. I was really into like whatever he
(06:15):
the duct tape and the rope. I'm like, what else
did you bring in that bag?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Steve is one of those players like he just keeps
surprising me. More and more each episode. I'm so happy that. Yeah,
we're getting like thought it was just.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
A hand model.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah you thought wrong, You thought wrong. He's looking for grubs.
He's looking for grubs.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That grosses me out every time I think about grubs.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, I mean like ultimately, at the end of this episode,
Steve gets another star.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He gives Adam Starr to Ace, what were your thoughts
on that?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
This is why I love All Stars. You literally can
communicate what the hell you're doing. Like, hey, brother, I
said I wanted to run with you, you know, in the
final and I'm sure you'll have a chance to get
this star back. And I'm gonna give this to Ace.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah yeah, like it's.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
The clear Yeah, but it's still competition. It's still like,
all right, I took it. And then Adam knows, like,
all right, I'm gonna take it back, but like it's
not there. It's not malicious, right, you know, but it
may get that way and I can't wait to see it. Yes,
and then this this move of I've never seen because
once you make up your mind with DJ, your mind
(07:22):
is made up. Nicole comes down, ready in the uniform,
ready to go, and takes Jasmine spot, only to come
back after Veronica finesses the shit out of her. Well
played Veronica, Yeah she still got it, sister. If you
say she's not political, you don't know that. Lady is smart.
(07:43):
And finesses her way out and Jasmine's back in. Like
what did Veronica say? You know, like she's just good.
She's just like, listen, I'm not the one like I'm
not playing with Kara, I'm not playing her game. Yeah,
And I think that was enough for her to be like,
oh right, but Veronica is never playing anyone else's games.
(08:04):
So if you've ever played with her before or you
know her even as a person or a friend outside
of the show, she's she's never playing or on anybody
else's time. Like she's like, this is my ship, yeah,
grown ass woman.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah she does what.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm about to start talking my way out of ship.
Yeah I do it already, but I'm really going to.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I think we all got to take a page out
of Roonica's book.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yes, she likes letting Nicole twenty or something that would
be a big t move.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Nicole was like, yes, one hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I'm just kidding, just kidding, No, no shaved in Nicole,
no shading the Nicole was a beast for putting herself
in elimination.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Of course, and I knew she was going. She was like, ropes, gals,
I'm doing this, got in there and did what she did.
So Nicole ends up beating Jasmine, and this is our
last sight of our jazz hands. However, now that Nicole
has Jasmine Star, we have Jasmine the actual star on
today's podcast, and I'm excited about that. But before we
(09:08):
get Jasmine on here, we must talk about all star
and no star, Tory, who do you give your all
star to? Who's the all star of this episode?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Like, I mean, we just talked about it. It has
to be Veronica, Am I right? Like?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Who else is the challenge? History? Has ever finessed their way.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Out of being called into an elimination in their uniform
down an elimination it?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You know what Veronica has. She's smooth.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know, she's got a way about her, she's gotten
appeal to her, something about her.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Man, she's got finesse.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yes and I also, you know, I want to give
it to her, but I also want to give it
to Derek. I don't know if you missed the Olympic tryouts,
but uh, you are. Those are stems that I love.
I want to borrow them if I want to challenge again.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I just thought he was like, he was just so
good in the challenge, and I think that he's worth mentioning.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I totally agree with that. I actually couldn't agree more.
Who would you? Who would you give your no.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Star to Brad because he had no seat?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
No seat?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You're like, Brad over here, Brad in this one, Brad,
and he's like just walking like d like it actually.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Happened to be fair. I want to give my no
star to Brad too.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But then when you think about it, I like Leroy
went the wrong way first, but then thankfully Cam was
like babe, that's for and then he doesn't quick turn around,
and then Brad obviously is just like on the run.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, but when Brad got over, he still couldn't find
the damn seat.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, that was tough. That was Yeah, all right, I'll
give my Brad too. I mean that or aces stylist
for the evening. Oh, I'm just kidding, I'm just come.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
He looked cool and he like played played it up.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
He did.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, he was like the humble when you win.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I thought that was yea, it was really it was
really funny. Yeah, however, I think we need to get
into the spicy moment and pick Jasmine Jazz hands Renaud's
brain for a little bit. Hear what she has to
say about the episode and her time on All Stars.
All Right, we have to take a quick break, but
(11:18):
we're going to talk to Jasmine right after this. Okay, okay,
let's get back to the show.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
All right, everybody, it's our favorite part of the podcast
where we get to interview a.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Special challenger today.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
This challenger is from her original season was The Real
World Cancun. She's done several Challenge seasons, including two All Stars.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
She is probably the spiciest person on this season and
it is such a bummer that this was her final
episode of the show. But regardless, we're going to get
into all of the details today with the.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Very special Jasmine. We're not Jasmine welcome.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Thank you for having me late. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Tori was raving because you are just all the spice
this girl has ever needed. She's been like adding you
to every vegan recipe.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
She is obsessed with. I mean, I've known you for years.
I know Rashida's comes out, but I don't know if
this was Rashida. We'll get into her later. I just
want to know, uh, what was Ace wearing during elimination
and who whose jacket was that?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Really?
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Oh my, I totally forgot that he wore that jacket
until I saw it again. But I think that was
actually Ryan's, Like I see like something Ryan would totally wear. Yeah,
I believe that was definitely Ryan's jacket, but he pulled
it on pretty well.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah. I kind of loved that for Ace, you know,
a little shining moment for him and a little bit
of a little bit of pizzazz.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, it was definitely unexpected.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
When I think of Ace as a challenger, I don't
think cheated jacket, So it was like it was a
nice touch.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I think it was very different. He gave it, he
was giving, He was giving for sure. Yeah, So, Desma,
what did you like?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Obviously this episode was so heavy and intense, and this
feud really started weeks ago. Now, considering the feud between
you and Kara and then her giving you the Star
and then watching it all play back, let's just jump
back a couple of weeks ago to kind of start
where it began when Kara Maria gave you the star.
What was your initial reaction to that?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
When she gave me the star? I was just like,
why would you like give me this?
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Like to hand it to me, because at the end
of the day, in my mind, I'm thinking everyone's gonna
want to run a final with me because A I've
never been to a final, and I'm let's be honest,
I'm not the strongest competitor, So why would you give
this to me? I didn't think. I didn't think there
was any ill will to it. I was like, maybe
she's trying to give me a peace offering.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I don't know, but no, she wasn't giving me a
peace offering. She gave it to you because people underestimate
smaller players sometimes I think it was a this is
just from an outsider, Say I didn't know anyone, right,
Unfortunately I do, so it makes is hard, but say
I didn't know anyone, And I think some people's strategy
(14:04):
is if we give it to certain players, some people
will like we saw tonight Nicole jumped down and be like, Okay,
I know I can. I know I may be able
to beat somebody who's a little bit smaller than me,
and I think that that was the maybe the motive.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I think it is too now that I like, I
didn't think of it right in that moment. I'm in
my head, I'm thinking, Okay, I've got a star. I'm
just thinking about the final. I'm not thinking, oh shit,
other people still have to get their star to get
to the final. I'm not thinking anyone's gonna want to
go back down against me again. Long as I just
keep myself out of the bottom, I'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
And I feel like when you get a star, it's
kind of like this precious thing. You're like, all right,
one thing checked off the box. Now I just have to,
like you said, get to the final with it. But yeah,
there's just so much game that happens in between, and
I think like, ultimately it must be difficult to navigate
it once you have a star. Obviously, when she first
gave it to you, you said that that didn't really click.
But when you start to like sit with the star,
and now you're starting to play with the star and
(14:59):
dale the challenges did you feel like you had to
shift your gameplay a bit or were you just kind
of like, whatever's going to happen is going to happen.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I did think I kind of had to shift my
gameplay a little bit. I had to be smart, like
how I handled people in the house. I actually did
make a deal with Avery, saying that if she didn't
say my name, I would give her a star later on,
or if I got who I wanted, I would give
her a star. So you know, you have to definitely
(15:27):
play the game a little bit different and try to
protect your star.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Interesting even going like taking that note that we didn't know,
and then watching their deliberation and then Carara says, if
I get the opportunity to give you a star, I
will give it to you, which kind of took me
off guard. But now here in your backstory do you
think that there was a deal cut in that moment
in deliberation where Avery told.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Kara that you had made that deal with her.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yes, actually she did.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
I end up finding out later that Avery did tell everyone,
And I didn't think when I was making this deal, say, oh,
don't tell anybody, But of.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Course she's telling everyone.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
And then I start to realize Avery is a silent
player that none of us are paying attention to. She's
making deals left and right, but everybody wants to talk
about me making deals.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
But okay, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, the challenge is a lot of everyone's pointing fingers
at each other, but we're all doing the same thing exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, it's a lot of the blame game and telephone
this season. I mean, these are people that I mean,
regardless if they have played a year ago or within
the last five to ten years, Like people still are
up to their old like tricky. I mean, we see
it with Veronica, like she talked her way right out
of elimination. So I would have put ship past anyone
(16:37):
at this point where like a lot of people have
had some time to think about how they're going to
play their game, you know, and I think everybody kind
of is settling into their positions. So it's very interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Do you, like Kara had mentioned, you know that you
were like super connected and a few times your name
came up in the deliberation of people saying, oh, Jasmine
has a deal with you too, Jasmine, as like, did
you feel you were as connected as everybody kind of
painted you out to be or like you were just
kind of being people were just kind of like tarnishing
your name as a scapegoat to throw you in.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
No, I think people thought that I was definitely making
a lot of deals, but it's like that wasn't the case.
I was just I'm friends with a lot of people.
I've played this game for a long time. You know,
I can't help that I'm close with people on the show,
and I'm actually friends with a lot of people outside
the show.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
So that's not my fault. Like I'm I don't know
what to tell you.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
I mean, by someone a birthday present, maybe they'll take
care of you next time.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I don't know what the fuck to tell you.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
But like so I knew people were using that against
me because you know, just because I'm friends with someone
does not mean I have a deal.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I had even told people like Derek and Ryan to
a certain point, like if you have to say my
name because it helps your game, then do that. I
have no problem that I know. It's not coming from
a personal place. It's coming for we We have to
play a game, m.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Hm, right, And there's a big and I think that
this happens a lot that like friendships are automatically alliances,
which is not true. And after you've played a lot
Jazz and you have you you collect friends from like
every season, so then they put all the friends on
one season and it's really hard to then even form
an alliance. You know. It's like people try and pick
(18:18):
at anything that will make you look at like you're
a threat. And having friendships, I mean, I don't. It's
a good thing to do, like in life and in
the game, but some people are really threatened by people's
ability to make friends and automatically goes to a big
suspicious place of a bunch of paranoid PAMs exactly.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
It's well, you know, it's not my fault that you know,
majority of the cast, you know, was my friend and
someone like Flora, we became cool, like just straight from
the beginning, and we were roommates. So I'm like helping
her reintroduce her how the game is now played since
you know, last time she did it. So it's you know,
I mean, it's a double edged sword to have friends,
but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Speaking of friends, you got to work with one of
your best friends in the challenge in this particular game.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And what was it like competing with Derek.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I love competing with Derek.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
It's always fun working with him, and he's always just
the best, like like I've known him for years, like
I mean, he was at my wedding, Like we just
know each other forever. So it's fun to play the
game with him. I just sometimes so bad when he
has to be partnered with me, and you know, he's
a runner. I'm not the best runner, so I always
feel like I bring him down at times.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
No one could keep up with Daddy long legs. I've
never seen Derek run that fast, but he was out
of there. No one kept up with him. Yeah, like
no one, so like he was just trying to get
their first to save you a seat, which I thought
was like so gentlemanly.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
He tried, but he was out gone.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So don't make herself. Don't feel that bad because I
watched it. I was exhausted watching.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I mean that was really really exhausting.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
And I was actually injured from the very first challenge
that we had because I had popped something in my knees,
so I was limping around.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
So you can tell my run is like what is
wrong with her? Like is she okay? Like I was
in so much pain not.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
To mention, you guys are literally bashing into each other,
like I just can. I'm surprised nobody had to wear
a mouthguard.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's all I was.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I would have bodied people, for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I would have eaten a mouthguard. Dude, do you want
to fuck me up? I am ready.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
I mean I did hip check Veronica, but it wasn't intentional,
like I don't play a dirty game, bitch, like, don't
come with me with that one.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But Veronica also had a seat right there, so I
think that worked out. You hip checked, and then she
realized she was in a safe seat exactly like it
all worked out.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
She might not ever say I play a dirty game.
Otherwise next time it will be me and her an
elimination again.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And the spice comes out. You know, you're not even lowries.
I need a different type of salt. Like she's like
a chili she's definitely a chili powder.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Oh yeah, for sure, I was gonna say, Kyenne, oh
I slap.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Your mama's evening. Oh I hope you wouldn't. Then we
would all fight.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Oh no, god, I would never. Ronda would kill me.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You need to keep it at yes, Chyenne, So I
want to know. So you guys get back to the house.
You know who won, and Cara wants to throw you
in And you thought she was doing you a solid
at first by giving you a star, but now she
wants to jeopardize that star. How do you feel about this?
Speaker 6 (21:33):
You know, watching her and Jay have that conversation, I'm
not upset with her because that's car We all know
she's a snake in the grass.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That's nothing new whatever.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
But Jay, we were kind of like working together as
a group. And for you to sit here and say,
I'm gonna walk my ass to the final, Yeah, I'm
gonna walk my ass to the final. And I've helped
save your ass and your homegirl's ass, Nicole, So for
you to sit here, I didn't realize him and Carl
were really working that hard to get so, you know,
I realized the type of person that he fucking is.
(22:04):
And next time I see him and we play a
game together, I'm gonna have his ass crying for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Kaya story is so excited. She just wants to hear
you and your thoughts. I'm gonna leave and you just
tell everybody off and Tory and you could just sit
here and have at it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I'm not gonna go into like my full experience of
why I've become such a huge Jasmine fan over the
course of All Stars, but one of the things I
will say is this episode completely showed all of you.
Like we're not gonna jump to the elimination right now,
but even how you finished it, your demeanor after it
was over, like how you like dapped Nicole up. Prior
to that, You're like talking your shit. You just have
a very respectful way of handling your business.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So I just like really enjoyed. I've enjoyed watching you.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
But before we jump all the way to the elimination,
and when you bounce, like you said, you didn't recognize
that Kara and Jay were as close as they were.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Was it not like being obvious in the house? Did Kara?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Was she giving the impression that she was working with
anybody or because when you see Kara in a lot
of her interviews, she talks about how she really doesn't
have anybody in the game.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
A lot of people are also co signing this.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
In their own interviews, But like, what was it like
to be in a house with her, and then you know,
now watching her back on the show, you.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Know, she really wasn't showing that she was really working
with anyone, Like, she didn't show whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
So for me, it was it was shocking to see that.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
And then just even before, like when she got so
upset with Brandon and I for saying her name, she
just naturally assumed, just because you know, we've done a
couple of challenges together, that we're friends and I'm gonna
save you. I ain't talked to even like ten fucking years.
Do you even know I have kids? Like I owe
you nothing. Your name is not Malone or Leonardo. I
don't owe you a fucking thing. Yeah, Oh, she didn't
(23:45):
like so she just naturally assumed that everybody owed her something.
Nobody owes you shit, Like you need to get off
that fucking hot horse. I know you like horses and shit,
but get off of it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I I think I don't like her.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I'm sorry, I just don't like her. We're never gonna
be cool. I'm just I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
You know, Listen, I talked to it Tory about this
last week. This show is not meant to be best friends.
And I think that the show has been great because
of the rivalries and because we're all different people. I
like that the viewers get to pick and choose who
they want to root for, who they want to villainize,
who they want to do whatever with. You have the
freedom to feel how however you want. However, throughout this
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All Star season so far, with everyone we've interviewed, there
is this thing of like, did you have you checked
on me in the last ten years? Like a lot
of people are saying that, like these outside relationships outside
of like in real life, because the show is just
show life that matters, and I think that people assume
(24:44):
on this show and others that like it doesn't. So
it's kind of like if you're not checking for me
in real life, like are are we friends or we're
just we're just coworkers at this point.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Yeah, but even if you have friends like outside of
the show and you're closed, you still cannot make that
assumption that they're going to s save you, because we
all know what happens when you make an assumption, you
make an ass out of yourself.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
M M true.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
So it's like, you know, I've always told people like,
if you're gonna stay my name that's fine. So you know,
I mean, I'm not gonna assume just because I'm cool
with Ryan and Derek and Brands and all these people
that they're gonna save me. I have to have those
conversations with them in the house and say, hey, do
you have my back or not. With Car, she never
came up to anybody and said, are you gonna save me?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
She just automatically assumed.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
And it's different because she said with Rachel, like, let's
protect our stars. I thought all the star holders were
gonna work together. That's the only thing that was confusing
for me because it wasn't translating in every It seemed
to switch up depending on depending on who had stars.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And you know what I want to say, even you
pointing this out, Jasmine, and I think Car is smart
and she's played the game many times.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
She knows what she's doing.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And for her to have those conversations with Rachel and
then to not have them with you and Brandon, but
then to get mad at you and Brandon for when
you didn't vote her ways, it's almost like she wanted
to to I'm not gonna say play, but she wanted
to play from the side of being attacked, so therefore
she had a reason to fire back instead of being
the one to pull the trigger first, If that makes sense,
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you know, like playing from the defense. It's kind of
like a way that she It's a way that she
maneuvers through the game so that therefore she can be
mad at someone and instead of somebody.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Being mad at her for taking the first shot.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Oh, that's exactly how she's played. Like, she played the victim.
She's always done that. We've all seen her do it
millions and millions and times again, over and over. It's
nothing new. It's like the number one thing in her
fucking playbook. It's what she does, plays the victim, and
she needs two villains. So you've got a villain. You
want to see a villain. I'll be a fucking villain, bitch.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, not only you said you wanted to be a villain.
In this episode, we see this allegation that you're a
Cam's mouth peach piece, which mouthpeach, you're her mouth peach,
which is really cute.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Actually that's it's kind.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Of cute cute, But you know, how do you feel
about that?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Yeah, hearing that I'm Cam's mouthpiece, that's all bullshit. Because
when it came down to it, when we decided a
couple episodes back that you know, we wanted car and
Rachel to go in Brandon and I came up with
that idea. We wanted it, so we went and told
Cam and Leroy what was going on. So I'm nobody's
fucking mouthpiece, bitch, like, don't don't play with me.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Don't play.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I knew you'd find that offensive because no one ever
wants to. It's like saying you're a puppet, right. That
never feels good when you feel like you don't have
any agency, Like you want credit for the things that
you come up with. Unless and it's like.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
If you've watched me long enough, you know that nobody
can speak for me. No one can make me do
something I don't want to do. If I don't want
to do it, I'm not gonna do it. If I
do what I do, it like playing en simple. So
I'm no one's mouthpiece.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So yeah, I will say, you have been the same
kind of player, you have the same person I feel.
I mean, I haven't done a show with you in
a while, but even from watching it, like there is
a level of respects because you know, we've played this
game for a long time. But yeah, you you don't
really waiver from who Jasmine is.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
No, that's.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Like what you see on TV is the same person
you see like in real life playing and simple, like
what you see is what you get. I'm not gonna
switch it up because there's a camera in front of
my face. Nine times out of ten, I'm trying to
run away from the cameras and do something I'm not
supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Oh oh, excuse me, excuse me?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Like what oh no, some things we're gonna leave alone.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Jasmine.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
We can leave it out of the podcast, but I
need to know I'm.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Not saying anything.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
He'll kill me from give me one letter. You call
her Jasmine jazz hands.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I guess jazz hands, God dad, Yeah, oh my god.
That's her new nickname is jazz hands.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Every time I see you, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Speaking of jazz hands.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Wait, hold on, and like this is probably such a
bad segue, but like, can we talk about how amazing
that Laurel Nicole sauna scene was.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Excuse me, that was a perfect segue, Tori, okay.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Cogilation and how Nicole walks out she goes Yeah, good
game conversation.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Nicole Nicole where they were like oh she was like,
oh god, oh my god.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Nicole and Laurel bose two. I don't know what place
in the house they did not hook up in, but
good to know.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
They hooked up around the sun.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
No, it was for me. If no one caught this,
it was v was like, can I get a sip
of that water?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Absolutely not. I mean the way she came.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Around the corner was like wiping her mouth. I'm like,
get right.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
She was like, good game, good game talk.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Like no, absolutely what game were you all talking about?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I just love the unapologeticness of it though, like it's
they don't care.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
They really don't. They're figuring it out on their own
and you know, fingering it out on their own. I
didn't say that, I said. I didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Aisa, Well, they're jazz handsing it to the jazz routine
that they made up in the sauna is incredible.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh my god, this is so good, but we have
to take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Let's get back to the show.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
It was nice to.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Have like those happy moments and when there's obviously so
much intensity going on, I want to shine light on.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Another amazing moment. The very beginning of this episode really quickly,
when Leroy was trying to do his acting spiel so bad,
it was so bad that it was so good.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I was like, what is this montage that he's going
on about.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I love that they're doing that this season. It's really cute.
But libro was awful. Yeah, but it was awfully good. Yeah,
it was awfully good.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I think like, like, it's nice to have that balance
of good and bad. And obviously jazz in this episode
had a lot more intensity for you than it did.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Funny, bright, little baby moments. But let's get into that elimination.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
When you walked in and you saw what it was
without knowing before Nicole was gonna come down, what was
your initial reaction to what you saw in the sand?
Speaker 6 (31:20):
I was just like, Jesus Christ, why do I always
get a physical elimination? Can you guys give me a
puzzle or something like? Can I catch a break from
physical things? Like I'm so tired of doing this? And
I was like, okay, Veronica, we're the same height, maybe
not quite the same way, but this I have a
chance I have a chance.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
It's a possibility.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Did you think Nicole was going to once she saw
that or no matter? I mean, well if it was
a puzzle, maybe not. But looking at this, were you like,
there's a chance she may come down?
Speaker 6 (31:55):
In my head, I knew I was like, Okay, this
is ropes, this is she needs a star. It's a
very good chance she could come down.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Whose spot did you think she was going to take?
Initially before it happened.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Honestly, I didn't think she I don't know whose spots
she was gonna take. I really didn't know if she
was going to be me or Veronica, Like, because I
mean we're at the halfway point, you know, we're starting
to thin out a little bit. I have saved her once, like,
but you know, I've been working more with Jay than
I really have Nicole, So I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I don't know if she's really working with Veronica. So
I wasn't sure.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
I was like, she might flip a coin then decide
like I'm not one hundred sure who she's going to, you.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Know, say yeah. And obviously this was so confusing.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I think Cam probably had the best SoundBite on it
in the interview, like she was like I barely can
decode what Nicole says, let alone thinks.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You know, so before we get into the processing of.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Like how this all went down when she originally picked
Veronica to go against and you're running back up to
the bleachers with everybody like what was what was your
mind thinking at that point.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I was just like, yes, I'm safe. I'm good. This
is awesome.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
You know, my star at this point I think is
gonna be safe until the final because there's so much confusion.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Nicole has just shaken the women's.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Side of the house up, like this is perfect, this
is exactly what I need.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And then you see them whispering on the sand And
were you able to overhear anything between Veronica and Nicole.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
No, I wasn't able to overhear it.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
But they were talking for a good ten minutes, and
I'm like sitting there thinking this has taken way too long,
like something's up, Like I'm getting nervous.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I'm like, can we start this game? Like let's go?
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Like come on, you know, they were they talking about
why are y'all letting them talk?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Where's the RAF? Come on? Ogay?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Wait, I was gonna say one thing, there was no
way you were gonna overhear anything, let alone understand it.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
She was talking loudly. Yeah, But once I saw.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
The cameras getting closer and closer to them, I'm like, shit,
this is not looking good.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
What's going on right now?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I mean, like, I can only imagine what was like
in the conversation, considering we only saw a snippet of
what V said to Nicole. But like, when you found
out that she decided to change her mind, were you
even more pissed at Nicole for teasing you about possibly
letting you off the hook.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
For the elimination? Well, first, I'm not gonna lie. I
was better.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
I was like, this is not fair. And then it's
just kind of like, all right, you know what, you
can't be mad. You gotta go play the game. You
have to just laugh this off and be like whatever.
And then I'm just like, you know what, I'm gonna
fuck this bitch's game up. So I was like, I know,
I have to go back down and we get time
to kind of talk to the other cast members.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
I'm planting seeds to.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Make sure if I lose this, you guys do not
let Nicole get soe final. I am already setting her
I'm setting up.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Her death already.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
What were you saying?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I was just letting people know she's doing this, she's
doing that. You need to watch her with Laurel oh.
I heard her say this about you. Oh, I was baby.
I was playing seeds all up and down.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
And were they like real seeds or were you just
like making up rumors to just not s with her?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Could she was on fire?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
She was on fire.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I know which ones were real. But it's okay.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
So you end up getting down there with the call,
obviously you're heated up. You hear the rules of the
elimination and it's like you said, it's another physical elimination.
What was your strategy going into it? Obviously you got
to watch the guys first. Did you learn anything from
the guys round? And then like, what was your strategy
going into competing.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
My strategy with going into this, It's just like, okay,
if I can run to one side faster than Nicole
and just push as much weight of one side of
the rope.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
On her side, and then just I'm gonna have to just.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Try to fight her way around it, like I'm gonna
just I can get to the rope first.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, and then she got to the opposite side of
the rope first. So it was like, you were there
rules in the game that you had to choose different
sides or was it just.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
No no rules they actually gave us, Like we only
had like thirty minutes to like get the rope on
the side, and we're all thinking our heads, why did
we need thirty minutes to push this thing over?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
No one's gonna last thirty minutes doing this.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
But what we didn't realize later on is that there
was like some n slacks of the rope. You had
to have some of the rope at least one part
of your side, so you could have just started pulling
rope with your hands instead of wrestling it. None of
us paid attention to the rules that well oh my yeah,
so yeah, me and Nicole just we didn't think about that,
(36:23):
and we obviously you could tell we had the same
strategy to go on one side of the ropes.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
But this is Nicole.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
No dude wants to go against her, Like have you
seen her body? Like it's insane.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, she's she's built for these kinds of eliminations. Like
I think it was in her particular gameplay. It was
the perfect storm for her to go in, no matter
who was in there, to go in and try to
win a start because she didn't have one. So I
get why she did what she did, but yeah, it
sucks that it was against you and that there was
this major I mean, I love Veronica too, so either way,
like it would have been she did to see either
one of you leave the game. But it was like, damn,
(36:57):
Jazz has just given us all of this great content
right now, She's going She's.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Going head to head with some of the biggest names
in the game.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I have I literally have gone against some of the
biggest names. The only person I haven't gone against Toy.
You're a big name.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Please, I don't want to go against you in a
Hall of in the future. I don't want that from
my life.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Okay, we're not putting it.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I got to look after.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
We're not putting that out there. We're gonna ask we're
gonna racist from the podcast. Actually we're gonna edit that
far out. We have no interest in that.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
No, and Aniece, I never want to go against you.
You're like the elimination queen. Like I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Thank you. I don't want to do it either, you.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Know, but like I mean, that's what I tell people,
that's my resume.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Like I've gone against some of the biggest names, So
I'm proud of proud of myself for that one.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, and like you don't back down, like you see
it in your eyes. You're kind of just like ready
to go for it. And even after it was over,
like Nicole literally came down there, teased you with potentially.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Staying in going out of the game.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
She picked you to come back in, and then you
have to go against her and some on the physical
and then the game's over and you're like, it's all
a good girl, And I'm like, damn, Like this just
goes to show how authentic of a soul you are. Yes,
you have your moments as we all do, where we
the game gets intense and we speak our truth about
how we feel and you can get spicy, but at
the same time, you have a good heart and it's
(38:09):
just so obvious. So I just think I want to
commend you on just how you play the game.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I think it's dope.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Thank you. I appreciate.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
I mean, like you know, like you said, we all
have our moments, and you know, sometimes it sucks, but
it's like it's part of life. You can't just I
can't be angry about it. I can't control it. I
just have to do what I can. And you know,
at that moment, it's like, I don't hate Nicole. I'm
not happy that she's not thinking smart, but but it's
just you know, I did. I did have fun doing
that elimination, and I was actually kind of proud of
(38:37):
myself because at one point I'm looking around, I'm like,
I might actually beat her.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Maybe that shit is in my mind. I'm thinking that,
but I thought I had a chance.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
And you know, it's a game, it's not the end
of the world, and it's not like I won't be back.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
So was that a tease that you're coming back?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
You know, we spice.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
So who were you rooting for? Steve Keithla?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
That's so tough.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I love them both, but I was actually rooting for
Keifla to come back because he has such good energy
and he's such a great person to be around in
the house and for him to come back, like, you know,
after all this time, and to like actually meet and
see him, I really wanted him to come back to
the game, and I think a lot of people did.
I think this was a it was a tough one
(39:24):
to like see him like lose.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, I feel like that's gonna be felt by a
lot of people. He seems pretty cool. His wife seems cool.
She's beautiful, I know, right.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
She's so gorgeous. Oh my god, Like.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I know, dude, and like, and you could just see,
like he's had such.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
An awesome season even though like he wasn't there for
as long as you know, people wanted him there for Like,
he really showed up and he had many times when
he performed incredible. And it sucks when you get injured
like that and you can't really perform to your ability.
It happens to literally anybody at any age. So I
don't want to hear anybody in the the comments or
whatever saying and he's old, because literally at any age,
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you can get injured.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
At any age.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Nicole got her shoulder popped out by Cam on Double Agents,
Like anybody can get injured.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
In this game. So oh my Brandon ankle during the
final Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
And that's the thing people understand. I've told people, like
even when like in my twenties when I played this game.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
You play injured all the time, like everybody.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
You couldn't even tell people back in the day, yeah
you because they just vote you in. You're like, I
have asthma. They were like, we're voting her in. Yeah,
I broke a nail. She broke a nail. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
So now that you are unfortunately out of the game,
who are you? Who are you rooting for? Who would
you like to win this whole thing?
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Oh gosh, honestly, I want to see everyone this I think,
you know, like I said before, she's sneaky, she's planned
the game better than I realized, and I think and
she's actually performing very well, you know, So I would
like to see her.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
I think she deserves that.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
I think, I know watching her back in the day,
she didn't have the greatest challenge time, so I would
definitely like to see her win. Of course, I would
love to see Derek win, you know. I mean, John
A's won the past All Stars, so let's keep it
back in the can Kuon family.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
So I'd love to see Derek winn.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
And then I go on All Stars five and I
win that win, and we just keep it all can coon.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I love keeping it all cancuon.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
That's weird.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
It's interesting that you would say that you want Abra
to win, especially because I guess in the beginning of
this interview, like the way you complimented, which I'm seeing
now the way her techniques as being sneaky, Like I
almost feel like that was like a dig at her gameplay.
But now I'm understanding that you support it. Is that
what I'm getting at?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I do?
Speaker 6 (41:44):
I support like what she did? You know, she's you know,
it's definitely not a diggot. I think she's a great person.
It's just you don't expect that from someone just by
looking at her, you know, and just what I saw
in her in the house.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
So I'm just she shocked me. She threw one she had,
she threw one over my head. I'll give her that one.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Well, I'm excited to see what else happens this season,
but it's going to be a total bummer that you're
not there.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
You know, when we.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Got on this podcast, you said that you had a
lot of opinions about how the season went. Is there
anything that we missed that you want to talk about
before we head out.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
Well, first of all, who's ever doing the music? I
absolutely freaking love it. This is bringing me back. I'm
love it, So let's keep the music going. I'm so
excited about it.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
You know, this has been a fun season.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
I'm like, you know, I definitely stated it a couple
of times in the episodes. I've never played a game
like this. I've always kind of been a little bit
more like behind the scenes and like kind of just
let everyone else make those moves. But and I just
you know, whatever, But this time I really wanted to
play a game and get dirty and call people out
and really try something different, you know. And I think
(42:56):
I'm proud of the way I played this game. I'm
happy how I played this game. So it was fun.
I hope to be back on All Stars with mine
going on the flagship either and showing some of these
young kids.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
How I was really supposed to be fucking done in
the house.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Off what they wanted to Kay, let's go jas Han, Yeah,
damn go, I can go.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Who's who's pissing you off?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
From the flagship?
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (43:27):
What's that one?
Speaker 4 (43:29):
What's his name? Something with the Syrian Saurians? Three? Oh yeah,
he's annoying. Emmanuel. I don't know what the fuck is
going on with that little boy.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
He gotta get his ship together past lovers, sorry bad,
I don't care. And then that Olivia girl, Baby, what
was you thinking you've done through your your bride or
die and his homegirl?
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Like, I forgot what. I didn't know what I was thinking.
You exactly what she was thinking. Don't be stupid. He
was playing a game. Say, I was playing the game ship. Damn.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Oh, jazz hands. It's good old jazz hands.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, you may need that on.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
The flagship because they're like.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
We're just not gonna say anything.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
We're just gonna play for real.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Sneaky, such a scared game. Don't be scared. Like all
of y'all can't go to the end and win.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Shit, Yeah it's true, Jesus, but they sure as help try.
They sure I'm bringing you and you and you and you.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
And you my rookie mistakes.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, well you said that.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
It's interesting because you said that you were proud of
the way you played the season, which I think you
should be, But then in your interview on All Stars,
you were like, I don't know if I'd play that again,
Like that if I were to come back, what are
your thoughts on how you played? Now?
Speaker 6 (44:42):
I think I just said that just in the moment,
because you're still come still pissed off. Yeah, but I
am proud of after watching everything, I'm proud of how
I played the game and really thinking about it. Of course,
there are some things I would tweak, you know a
little bit, and that I can't get. I'm not gonna
give away what I would tweak, so you just have
to wait and see for next time.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Okay, Well bye, I got jazz Ham Yeah, Licy jazz Man.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I love this.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Well, dude, it's literally been number one a pleasure to
watch you this season. It's been, like I am, I
love the game that you played. It's been so out
there and just bold. And I don't think it's fair
to say you're anybody's mouthpiece, because if you're about to
go up against the Lions, you go up against and
you still bark back like you're obviously.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Crazy within your own.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Mind, but in the best way possible, you have your
own your own you can tell it comes from you.
So I just think it's amazing to watch you compete,
and yeah, it's awesome to connect with you on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Again.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
If anybody wants to follow you on Instagram or on
any of your social media platforms, where can they follow
you to stay connected with you.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
On Twitter you can find me It's Jazzy Ray I
should probably change it it's jazz hands now yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
And then on Instagram and TikTok you can find me
at jazz MTV.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Well, thank you so much, Jazmine. It was so good
to talk.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Thank you ladies for having me. It's always a pleasure
talking to you too.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Never a dull moment with the spicy, spicy Kyenne jazz
hands ky just hands. Oh god, I mean it's probably
one of the best things you've come up with.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
But you know what, I can't take credit because she
she she.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Helped me channel that for her. It was my spirit guides.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
This is who the not the spicy spirit guides.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, they were like, this is dude.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
She's amazing, Like even even the way she lost, Like
I just have nothing but positive things to say about her.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
I think it was great.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
She wasn't you know, and then she she gave us
what we needed in that interview.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yeah, she did. She's awesome. I really enjoy it and
I love following her on social media. So I highly
recommend to anybody who is interested in Jasmine in a
following kind of.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Way to check out her Instagram handle.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
And if you want to send her jazz hams. Yeah, Tory,
where can people find you? Follow you, support you, and
and do a jazz routine in your dms?
Speaker 3 (47:10):
You can find me at the mall it's going down,
find me at the clube is going You can find
me at Tory Underscore Deal at Instagram. Oh no, no, no,
at toy Underscore Deal on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
And yeah, just honestly just slide through, say what's up?
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Like, I read as many messages as I can.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
I really try to respond to all my dms, and
if you send me pictures of Anissa, I'm more likely
to respond.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
So just know that.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Go Google search your favorite Anissa image.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Oh nope, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Go go to Anissa's Instagram and screenshot your favorite image
that she's posted consensually, and you tell you message out
to me and Anissa, where can they find.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
You? Can follow me at Anissa MTV that's a n
e s a MTV on Instagram. That's where I am.
And thanks for joining us for another episode of MTV's
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Speaker 3 (48:11):
And remember you can watch The Challenge All Stars four
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Speaker 1 (48:17):
We'll see you next time on MTV's Official Challenge Podcast
What's up everyone on Tory Deal And I'm Anissa Ferira
and this is MTV's official challenge podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Anissa this episode, take a seat.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Take a seat, dude, take a fucking seat. I can't
it was good. It All Stars never ever disappoints.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, it really doesn't.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
The only thing that I found disappointing was, you know,
Brad running the wrong direction and fucking up the challenge again.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I mean, I don't like to talk about that later,
but sure, yes, I mean this this musical Chairs in
the Stadium. I feel like whenever there's a stadium, some
shit's about to go down.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It just like when you look at a stadium and
you're there, Like it's already exhausting to think about getting
from one side of the stadium.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
To the other.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Now they're playing a game where you literally have to
dart across the entire thing, and like we've all been
in stadiums before, most likely, like you know how tight
those seats are and how badly your knees hurt when
they're pressed up against them. Now you to bulldoze people
out of the way, but we're seeing people get tossed
all around the place. Cam gets pushed to the bottom,
she gets up, shakes it off for Veronica gets pushed.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean like it is a it's a straight up
musical chair brawl. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm just happy that we see new winners this time. Yeah.
And I feel like Ace was on the first All
Stars and maybe was that the only one or did
he go on another one?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Why?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I know I had an early departure. I feel like
he's a little bit more at home here and then
he gets this win with Nicole. I'd like to see
new winners. I like to see how things are gonna
shake down. Who's gonna be in the middle group, who's
going to be in the losing group.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And I love that we get to see Leroy and
Cam as a partnership and see how they work together.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And I was really actually shocked because like that first group,
if you were part of the winners, then you got
a thirty second bonus, and you most likely assumed that
all of those players were going to make it into
the middle group or even the winning group.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But Adam and Flora pushed through.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
They were in the losing group the first time, and
then they made it into the mid grou So I
really enjoyed that they still fought their way out of
that position that they were in.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And like you said, the fact that Ace and Nicole
one was so nice.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Especially because Kara didn't want to work with Ace on.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
This one, I know, right, Like I kind of love that.
It really goes to show you never know, you never know, dude,
and like you don't want to count Ace out. Ace
is obviously somebody who like he just seems like a
great guy.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I follow him on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
He's always posting the sweetest things about animals, Like he's
such a good dude, cares about the environment, and like,
I love.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That he got his win today and he got a
good start.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm also happy that there's this middle group. I
love that, like there are clear cut winners and then
like you still have a shot to like be safe, yeah,
which I'm really into.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I mean, this episode got spicy, and I think like
we had all been kind of anticipating what's gonna happen
with this beef between Jasmine and Kara, and now you
can see like the tides have really turned and Jasmine
has become you know, a target and car in the
middle group, and she has this amazing sway on everybody.
What did you think when you were watching her communicate
with everybody and kind of like force her vote on people.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean maybe they
were thinking, like, in the future, Kara can be on
my team and she's good, so let's listen to her.
She has a star. We might not want to.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I don't know. I don't know. But it also is
when somebody spearheads something, it's easy for everybody else who
like went with it to then point back at the
person who had the original idea. So instead of like
you know, ruffling any other feathers or like causing any waves,
they're like, okay, well we can go here. We can
kind of like wash our hands of this a little, right, Yeah,
(03:45):
you know. And I mean Car did two things. She
got Jasmine in and she blocked cam. The cam called
it like you blocked me. Okay, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I mean it was as much as there is a
lot of you know, Car got a lot of heat
this episode in terms of showmanship. In gameplay, it is
entertaining to watch there'd be two equal sides that have power,
Like Car has gained control of the middle of this episode,
by convincing Jay and Avery to vote with her, and
Camoff also has a lot of alliances as well, so
we're seeing like these two people who were originally friends
(04:19):
separate into two different alliances and really go against each other.
And there are some really big power players skating underneath
the surface, and like, obviously one of them and I
love Laurel to death, but one of them was Laurel, Like,
she is probably one of the best females to ever
play the game, and her name is not coming up
at all except for on a burn vote.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Which was like whoa.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, people also want to work with her, but they
also fear her. You know, you don't want to run
against Laurel in a final. She also don't want to
go against Laurel in elimination, right, so you're kind of
like stuck between a rock and a hard place. Mm hmm.
That's how that goes.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That's that's a good That was a good quote, Anisa,
that was a very good quote, said correctly, what do
you think of a yeah? Yeah, What do you think
about Steve and Keifler going in?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I hate it because they both seem like such nice guys.
We've had Keith La on the podcast, he was nothing
but sweet. He was completely entertaining, And these little injuries
can really can really mess with you. And minus the
you know, take out the size difference. I mean, an
injury can change all of that. Uh, Steve's skill and
(05:30):
knowledge of wrestling can you know, benefit him. So it
was unfortunate, But I don't know who else they really
could have, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Picked No.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, it was a good matchup, like they put on
a great show, and I'm sure it was even more
incredible in person. I think I knew Steve was gonna
win when the beginning of this episode started with Steve
in the Wild and Aces in.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Places like, Aces in Places was the best shit I've
ever seen. All he did was just being random. Place
is sleeping. Oh, I've never seen any buddy sleep like
baby sleep like that. Dude, like half on the thing.
I'm like, what in the narcolepsy is going on? But
Steve in the Wild was incredible? Actually, I put it
in my notes. I was really into like whatever he
(06:15):
the duct tape and the rope. I'm like, what else
did you bring in that bag?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Steve is one of those players like he just keeps
surprising me. More and more each episode. I'm so happy that. Yeah,
we're getting like thought it was just.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
A hand model.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah you thought wrong, You thought wrong. He's looking for grubs.
He's looking for grubs.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That grosses me out every time I think about grubs.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, I mean like ultimately, at the end of this episode,
Steve gets another star.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He gives Adam Starr to Ace, what were your thoughts
on that?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
This is why I love All Stars. You literally can
communicate what the hell you're doing. Like, hey, brother, I
said I wanted to run with you, you know, in the
final and I'm sure you'll have a chance to get
this star back. And I'm gonna give this to Ace.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah yeah, like it's.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
The clear Yeah, but it's still competition. It's still like,
all right, I took it. And then Adam knows, like,
all right, I'm gonna take it back, but like it's
not there. It's not malicious, right, you know, but it
may get that way and I can't wait to see it. Yes,
and then this this move of I've never seen because
once you make up your mind with DJ, your mind
(07:22):
is made up. Nicole comes down, ready in the uniform,
ready to go, and takes Jasmine spot, only to come
back after Veronica finesses the shit out of her. Well
played Veronica, Yeah she still got it, sister. If you
say she's not political, you don't know that. Lady is smart.
(07:43):
And finesses her way out and Jasmine's back in. Like
what did Veronica say? You know, like she's just good.
She's just like, listen, I'm not the one like I'm
not playing with Kara, I'm not playing her game. Yeah,
And I think that was enough for her to be like,
oh right, but Veronica is never playing anyone else's games.
(08:04):
So if you've ever played with her before or you
know her even as a person or a friend outside
of the show, she's she's never playing or on anybody
else's time. Like she's like, this is my ship, yeah,
grown ass woman.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah she does what.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm about to start talking my way out of ship.
Yeah I do it already, but I'm really going to.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I think we all got to take a page out
of Roonica's book.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yes, she likes letting Nicole twenty or something that would
be a big t move.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Nicole was like, yes, one hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I'm just kidding, just kidding, No, no shaved in Nicole,
no shading the Nicole was a beast for putting herself
in elimination.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Of course, and I knew she was going. She was like, ropes, gals,
I'm doing this, got in there and did what she did.
So Nicole ends up beating Jasmine, and this is our
last sight of our jazz hands. However, now that Nicole
has Jasmine Star, we have Jasmine the actual star on
today's podcast, and I'm excited about that. But before we
(09:08):
get Jasmine on here, we must talk about all star
and no star, Tory, who do you give your all
star to? Who's the all star of this episode?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Like, I mean, we just talked about it. It has
to be Veronica, Am I right? Like?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Who else is the challenge? History? Has ever finessed their way.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Out of being called into an elimination in their uniform
down an elimination it?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You know what Veronica has. She's smooth.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know, she's got a way about her, she's gotten
appeal to her, something about her.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Man, she's got finesse.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yes and I also, you know, I want to give
it to her, but I also want to give it
to Derek. I don't know if you missed the Olympic tryouts,
but uh, you are. Those are stems that I love.
I want to borrow them if I want to challenge again.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I just thought he was like, he was just so
good in the challenge, and I think that he's worth mentioning.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I totally agree with that. I actually couldn't agree more.
Who would you? Who would you give your no.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Star to Brad because he had no seat?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
No seat?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You're like, Brad over here, Brad in this one, Brad,
and he's like just walking like d like it actually.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Happened to be fair. I want to give my no
star to Brad too.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But then when you think about it, I like Leroy
went the wrong way first, but then thankfully Cam was
like babe, that's for and then he doesn't quick turn around,
and then Brad obviously is just like on the run.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, but when Brad got over, he still couldn't find
the damn seat.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, that was tough. That was Yeah, all right, I'll
give my Brad too. I mean that or aces stylist
for the evening. Oh, I'm just kidding, I'm just come.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
He looked cool and he like played played it up.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
He did.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, he was like the humble when you win.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I thought that was yea, it was really it was
really funny. Yeah, however, I think we need to get
into the spicy moment and pick Jasmine Jazz hands Renaud's
brain for a little bit. Hear what she has to
say about the episode and her time on All Stars.
All Right, we have to take a quick break, but
(11:18):
we're going to talk to Jasmine right after this. Okay, okay,
let's get back to the show.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
All right, everybody, it's our favorite part of the podcast
where we get to interview a.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Special challenger today.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
This challenger is from her original season was The Real
World Cancun. She's done several Challenge seasons, including two All Stars.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
She is probably the spiciest person on this season and
it is such a bummer that this was her final
episode of the show. But regardless, we're going to get
into all of the details today with the.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Very special Jasmine. We're not Jasmine welcome.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Thank you for having me late. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Tori was raving because you are just all the spice
this girl has ever needed. She's been like adding you
to every vegan recipe.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
She is obsessed with. I mean, I've known you for years.
I know Rashida's comes out, but I don't know if
this was Rashida. We'll get into her later. I just
want to know, uh, what was Ace wearing during elimination
and who whose jacket was that?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Really?
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Oh my, I totally forgot that he wore that jacket
until I saw it again. But I think that was
actually Ryan's, Like I see like something Ryan would totally wear. Yeah,
I believe that was definitely Ryan's jacket, but he pulled
it on pretty well.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah. I kind of loved that for Ace, you know,
a little shining moment for him and a little bit
of a little bit of pizzazz.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, it was definitely unexpected.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
When I think of Ace as a challenger, I don't
think cheated jacket, So it was like it was a
nice touch.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I think it was very different. He gave it, he
was giving, He was giving for sure. Yeah, So, Desma,
what did you like?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Obviously this episode was so heavy and intense, and this
feud really started weeks ago. Now, considering the feud between
you and Kara and then her giving you the Star
and then watching it all play back, let's just jump
back a couple of weeks ago to kind of start
where it began when Kara Maria gave you the star.
What was your initial reaction to that?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
When she gave me the star? I was just like,
why would you like give me this?
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Like to hand it to me, because at the end
of the day, in my mind, I'm thinking everyone's gonna
want to run a final with me because A I've
never been to a final, and I'm let's be honest,
I'm not the strongest competitor, So why would you give
this to me? I didn't think. I didn't think there
was any ill will to it. I was like, maybe
she's trying to give me a peace offering.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I don't know, but no, she wasn't giving me a
peace offering. She gave it to you because people underestimate
smaller players sometimes I think it was a this is
just from an outsider, Say I didn't know anyone, right,
Unfortunately I do, so it makes is hard, but say
I didn't know anyone, And I think some people's strategy
(14:04):
is if we give it to certain players, some people
will like we saw tonight Nicole jumped down and be like, Okay,
I know I can. I know I may be able
to beat somebody who's a little bit smaller than me,
and I think that that was the maybe the motive.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I think it is too now that I like, I
didn't think of it right in that moment. I'm in
my head, I'm thinking, Okay, I've got a star. I'm
just thinking about the final. I'm not thinking, oh shit,
other people still have to get their star to get
to the final. I'm not thinking anyone's gonna want to
go back down against me again. Long as I just
keep myself out of the bottom, I'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
And I feel like when you get a star, it's
kind of like this precious thing. You're like, all right,
one thing checked off the box. Now I just have to,
like you said, get to the final with it. But yeah,
there's just so much game that happens in between, and
I think like, ultimately it must be difficult to navigate
it once you have a star. Obviously, when she first
gave it to you, you said that that didn't really click.
But when you start to like sit with the star,
and now you're starting to play with the star and
(14:59):
dale the challenges did you feel like you had to
shift your gameplay a bit or were you just kind
of like, whatever's going to happen is going to happen.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I did think I kind of had to shift my
gameplay a little bit. I had to be smart, like
how I handled people in the house. I actually did
make a deal with Avery, saying that if she didn't
say my name, I would give her a star later on,
or if I got who I wanted, I would give
her a star. So you know, you have to definitely
(15:27):
play the game a little bit different and try to
protect your star.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Interesting even going like taking that note that we didn't know,
and then watching their deliberation and then Carara says, if
I get the opportunity to give you a star, I
will give it to you, which kind of took me
off guard. But now here in your backstory do you
think that there was a deal cut in that moment
in deliberation where Avery told.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Kara that you had made that deal with her.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yes, actually she did.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
I end up finding out later that Avery did tell everyone,
And I didn't think when I was making this deal, say, oh,
don't tell anybody, But of.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Course she's telling everyone.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
And then I start to realize Avery is a silent
player that none of us are paying attention to. She's
making deals left and right, but everybody wants to talk
about me making deals.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
But okay, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, the challenge is a lot of everyone's pointing fingers
at each other, but we're all doing the same thing exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, it's a lot of the blame game and telephone
this season. I mean, these are people that I mean,
regardless if they have played a year ago or within
the last five to ten years, Like people still are
up to their old like tricky. I mean, we see
it with Veronica, like she talked her way right out
of elimination. So I would have put ship past anyone
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at this point where like a lot of people have
had some time to think about how they're going to
play their game, you know, and I think everybody kind
of is settling into their positions. So it's very interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Do you, like Kara had mentioned, you know that you
were like super connected and a few times your name
came up in the deliberation of people saying, oh, Jasmine
has a deal with you too, Jasmine, as like, did
you feel you were as connected as everybody kind of
painted you out to be or like you were just
kind of being people were just kind of like tarnishing
your name as a scapegoat to throw you in.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
No, I think people thought that I was definitely making
a lot of deals, but it's like that wasn't the case.
I was just I'm friends with a lot of people.
I've played this game for a long time. You know,
I can't help that I'm close with people on the show,
and I'm actually friends with a lot of people outside
the show.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
So that's not my fault. Like I'm I don't know
what to tell you.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
I mean, by someone a birthday present, maybe they'll take
care of you next time.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I don't know what the fuck to tell you.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
But like so I knew people were using that against
me because you know, just because I'm friends with someone
does not mean I have a deal.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I had even told people like Derek and Ryan to
a certain point, like if you have to say my
name because it helps your game, then do that. I
have no problem that I know. It's not coming from
a personal place. It's coming for we We have to
play a game, m.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Hm, right, And there's a big and I think that
this happens a lot that like friendships are automatically alliances,
which is not true. And after you've played a lot
Jazz and you have you you collect friends from like
every season, so then they put all the friends on
one season and it's really hard to then even form
an alliance. You know. It's like people try and pick
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at anything that will make you look at like you're
a threat. And having friendships, I mean, I don't. It's
a good thing to do, like in life and in
the game, but some people are really threatened by people's
ability to make friends and automatically goes to a big
suspicious place of a bunch of paranoid PAMs exactly.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
It's well, you know, it's not my fault that you know,
majority of the cast, you know, was my friend and
someone like Flora, we became cool, like just straight from
the beginning, and we were roommates. So I'm like helping
her reintroduce her how the game is now played since
you know, last time she did it. So it's you know,
I mean, it's a double edged sword to have friends,
but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Speaking of friends, you got to work with one of
your best friends in the challenge in this particular game.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And what was it like competing with Derek.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I love competing with Derek.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
It's always fun working with him, and he's always just
the best, like like I've known him for years, like
I mean, he was at my wedding, Like we just
know each other forever. So it's fun to play the
game with him. I just sometimes so bad when he
has to be partnered with me, and you know, he's
a runner. I'm not the best runner, so I always
feel like I bring him down at times.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
No one could keep up with Daddy long legs. I've
never seen Derek run that fast, but he was out
of there. No one kept up with him. Yeah, like
no one, so like he was just trying to get
their first to save you a seat, which I thought
was like so gentlemanly.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
He tried, but he was out gone.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
So don't make herself. Don't feel that bad because I
watched it. I was exhausted watching.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I mean that was really really exhausting.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
And I was actually injured from the very first challenge
that we had because I had popped something in my knees,
so I was limping around.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
So you can tell my run is like what is
wrong with her? Like is she okay? Like I was
in so much pain not.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
To mention, you guys are literally bashing into each other,
like I just can. I'm surprised nobody had to wear
a mouthguard.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's all I was.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I would have bodied people, for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I would have eaten a mouthguard. Dude, do you want
to fuck me up? I am ready.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
I mean I did hip check Veronica, but it wasn't intentional,
like I don't play a dirty game, bitch, like, don't
come with me with that one.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But Veronica also had a seat right there, so I
think that worked out. You hip checked, and then she
realized she was in a safe seat exactly like it
all worked out.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
She might not ever say I play a dirty game.
Otherwise next time it will be me and her an
elimination again.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And the spice comes out. You know, you're not even lowries.
I need a different type of salt. Like she's like
a chili she's definitely a chili powder.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Oh yeah, for sure, I was gonna say, Kyenne, oh
I slap.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Your mama's evening. Oh I hope you wouldn't. Then we
would all fight.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Oh no, god, I would never. Ronda would kill me.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You need to keep it at yes, Chyenne, So I
want to know. So you guys get back to the house.
You know who won, and Cara wants to throw you
in And you thought she was doing you a solid
at first by giving you a star, but now she
wants to jeopardize that star. How do you feel about this?
Speaker 6 (21:33):
You know, watching her and Jay have that conversation, I'm
not upset with her because that's car We all know
she's a snake in the grass.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That's nothing new whatever.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
But Jay, we were kind of like working together as
a group. And for you to sit here and say,
I'm gonna walk my ass to the final, Yeah, I'm
gonna walk my ass to the final. And I've helped
save your ass and your homegirl's ass, Nicole, So for
you to sit here, I didn't realize him and Carl
were really working that hard to get so, you know,
I realized the type of person that he fucking is.
(22:04):
And next time I see him and we play a
game together, I'm gonna have his ass crying for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Kaya story is so excited. She just wants to hear
you and your thoughts. I'm gonna leave and you just
tell everybody off and Tory and you could just sit
here and have at it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I'm not gonna go into like my full experience of
why I've become such a huge Jasmine fan over the
course of All Stars, but one of the things I
will say is this episode completely showed all of you.
Like we're not gonna jump to the elimination right now,
but even how you finished it, your demeanor after it
was over, like how you like dapped Nicole up. Prior
to that, You're like talking your shit. You just have
a very respectful way of handling your business.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So I just like really enjoyed. I've enjoyed watching you.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
But before we jump all the way to the elimination,
and when you bounce, like you said, you didn't recognize
that Kara and Jay were as close as they were.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Was it not like being obvious in the house? Did Kara?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Was she giving the impression that she was working with
anybody or because when you see Kara in a lot
of her interviews, she talks about how she really doesn't
have anybody in the game.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
A lot of people are also co signing this.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
In their own interviews, But like, what was it like
to be in a house with her, and then you know,
now watching her back on the show, you.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Know, she really wasn't showing that she was really working
with anyone, Like, she didn't show whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
So for me, it was it was shocking to see that.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
And then just even before, like when she got so
upset with Brandon and I for saying her name, she
just naturally assumed, just because you know, we've done a
couple of challenges together, that we're friends and I'm gonna
save you. I ain't talked to even like ten fucking years.
Do you even know I have kids? Like I owe
you nothing. Your name is not Malone or Leonardo. I
don't owe you a fucking thing. Yeah, Oh, she didn't
(23:45):
like so she just naturally assumed that everybody owed her something.
Nobody owes you shit, Like you need to get off
that fucking hot horse. I know you like horses and shit,
but get off of it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I I think I don't like her.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I'm sorry, I just don't like her. We're never gonna
be cool. I'm just I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
You know, Listen, I talked to it Tory about this
last week. This show is not meant to be best friends.
And I think that the show has been great because
of the rivalries and because we're all different people. I
like that the viewers get to pick and choose who
they want to root for, who they want to villainize,
who they want to do whatever with. You have the
freedom to feel how however you want. However, throughout this
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All Star season so far, with everyone we've interviewed, there
is this thing of like, did you have you checked
on me in the last ten years? Like a lot
of people are saying that, like these outside relationships outside
of like in real life, because the show is just
show life that matters, and I think that people assume
(24:44):
on this show and others that like it doesn't. So
it's kind of like if you're not checking for me
in real life, like are are we friends or we're
just we're just coworkers at this point.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Yeah, but even if you have friends like outside of
the show and you're closed, you still cannot make that
assumption that they're going to s save you, because we
all know what happens when you make an assumption, you
make an ass out of yourself.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
M M true.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
So it's like, you know, I've always told people like,
if you're gonna stay my name that's fine. So you know,
I mean, I'm not gonna assume just because I'm cool
with Ryan and Derek and Brands and all these people
that they're gonna save me. I have to have those
conversations with them in the house and say, hey, do
you have my back or not. With Car, she never
came up to anybody and said, are you gonna save me?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
She just automatically assumed.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
And it's different because she said with Rachel, like, let's
protect our stars. I thought all the star holders were
gonna work together. That's the only thing that was confusing
for me because it wasn't translating in every It seemed
to switch up depending on depending on who had stars.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And you know what I want to say, even you
pointing this out, Jasmine, and I think Car is smart
and she's played the game many times.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
She knows what she's doing.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And for her to have those conversations with Rachel and
then to not have them with you and Brandon, but
then to get mad at you and Brandon for when
you didn't vote her ways, it's almost like she wanted
to to I'm not gonna say play, but she wanted
to play from the side of being attacked, so therefore
she had a reason to fire back instead of being
the one to pull the trigger first, If that makes sense,
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you know, like playing from the defense. It's kind of
like a way that she It's a way that she
maneuvers through the game so that therefore she can be
mad at someone and instead of somebody.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Being mad at her for taking the first shot.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Oh, that's exactly how she's played. Like, she played the victim.
She's always done that. We've all seen her do it
millions and millions and times again, over and over. It's
nothing new. It's like the number one thing in her
fucking playbook. It's what she does, plays the victim, and
she needs two villains. So you've got a villain. You
want to see a villain. I'll be a fucking villain, bitch.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, not only you said you wanted to be a villain.
In this episode, we see this allegation that you're a
Cam's mouth peach piece, which mouthpeach, you're her mouth peach,
which is really cute.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Actually that's it's kind.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Of cute cute, But you know, how do you feel
about that?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Yeah, hearing that I'm Cam's mouthpiece, that's all bullshit. Because
when it came down to it, when we decided a
couple episodes back that you know, we wanted car and
Rachel to go in Brandon and I came up with
that idea. We wanted it, so we went and told
Cam and Leroy what was going on. So I'm nobody's
fucking mouthpiece, bitch, like, don't don't play with me.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Don't play.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I knew you'd find that offensive because no one ever
wants to. It's like saying you're a puppet, right. That
never feels good when you feel like you don't have
any agency, Like you want credit for the things that
you come up with. Unless and it's like.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
If you've watched me long enough, you know that nobody
can speak for me. No one can make me do
something I don't want to do. If I don't want
to do it, I'm not gonna do it. If I
do what I do, it like playing en simple. So
I'm no one's mouthpiece.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So yeah, I will say, you have been the same
kind of player, you have the same person I feel.
I mean, I haven't done a show with you in
a while, but even from watching it, like there is
a level of respects because you know, we've played this
game for a long time. But yeah, you you don't
really waiver from who Jasmine is.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
No, that's.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Like what you see on TV is the same person
you see like in real life playing and simple, like
what you see is what you get. I'm not gonna
switch it up because there's a camera in front of
my face. Nine times out of ten, I'm trying to
run away from the cameras and do something I'm not
supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Oh oh, excuse me, excuse me?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Like what oh no, some things we're gonna leave alone.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Jasmine.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
We can leave it out of the podcast, but I
need to know I'm.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Not saying anything.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
He'll kill me from give me one letter. You call
her Jasmine jazz hands.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I guess jazz hands, God dad, Yeah, oh my god.
That's her new nickname is jazz hands.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Every time I see you, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Speaking of jazz hands.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Wait, hold on, and like this is probably such a
bad segue, but like, can we talk about how amazing
that Laurel Nicole sauna scene was.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Excuse me, that was a perfect segue, Tori, okay.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Cogilation and how Nicole walks out she goes Yeah, good
game conversation.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Nicole Nicole where they were like oh she was like,
oh god, oh my god.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Nicole and Laurel bose two. I don't know what place
in the house they did not hook up in, but
good to know.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
They hooked up around the sun.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
No, it was for me. If no one caught this,
it was v was like, can I get a sip
of that water?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Absolutely not. I mean the way she came.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Around the corner was like wiping her mouth. I'm like,
get right.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
She was like, good game, good game talk.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Like no, absolutely what game were you all talking about?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I just love the unapologeticness of it though, like it's
they don't care.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
They really don't. They're figuring it out on their own
and you know, fingering it out on their own. I
didn't say that, I said. I didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Aisa, Well, they're jazz handsing it to the jazz routine
that they made up in the sauna is incredible.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh my god, this is so good, but we have
to take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Let's get back to the show.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
It was nice to.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Have like those happy moments and when there's obviously so
much intensity going on, I want to shine light on.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Another amazing moment. The very beginning of this episode really quickly,
when Leroy was trying to do his acting spiel so bad,
it was so bad that it was so good.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I was like, what is this montage that he's going
on about.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I love that they're doing that this season. It's really cute.
But libro was awful. Yeah, but it was awfully good. Yeah,
it was awfully good.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I think like, like, it's nice to have that balance
of good and bad. And obviously jazz in this episode
had a lot more intensity for you than it did.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Funny, bright, little baby moments. But let's get into that elimination.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
When you walked in and you saw what it was
without knowing before Nicole was gonna come down, what was
your initial reaction to what you saw in the sand?
Speaker 6 (31:20):
I was just like, Jesus Christ, why do I always
get a physical elimination? Can you guys give me a
puzzle or something like? Can I catch a break from
physical things? Like I'm so tired of doing this? And
I was like, okay, Veronica, we're the same height, maybe
not quite the same way, but this I have a
chance I have a chance.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
It's a possibility.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Did you think Nicole was going to once she saw
that or no matter? I mean, well if it was
a puzzle, maybe not. But looking at this, were you like,
there's a chance she may come down?
Speaker 6 (31:55):
In my head, I knew I was like, Okay, this
is ropes, this is she needs a star. It's a
very good chance she could come down.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Whose spot did you think she was going to take?
Initially before it happened.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Honestly, I didn't think she I don't know whose spots
she was gonna take. I really didn't know if she
was going to be me or Veronica, Like, because I
mean we're at the halfway point, you know, we're starting
to thin out a little bit. I have saved her once, like,
but you know, I've been working more with Jay than
I really have Nicole, So I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I don't know if she's really working with Veronica. So
I wasn't sure.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
I was like, she might flip a coin then decide
like I'm not one hundred sure who she's going to, you.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Know, say yeah. And obviously this was so confusing.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I think Cam probably had the best SoundBite on it
in the interview, like she was like I barely can
decode what Nicole says, let alone thinks.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
You know, so before we get into the processing of.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Like how this all went down when she originally picked
Veronica to go against and you're running back up to
the bleachers with everybody like what was what was your
mind thinking at that point.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I was just like, yes, I'm safe. I'm good. This
is awesome.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
You know, my star at this point I think is
gonna be safe until the final because there's so much confusion.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Nicole has just shaken the women's.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Side of the house up, like this is perfect, this
is exactly what I need.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And then you see them whispering on the sand And
were you able to overhear anything between Veronica and Nicole.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
No, I wasn't able to overhear it.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
But they were talking for a good ten minutes, and
I'm like sitting there thinking this has taken way too long,
like something's up, Like I'm getting nervous.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I'm like, can we start this game? Like let's go?
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Like come on, you know, they were they talking about
why are y'all letting them talk?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Where's the RAF? Come on? Ogay?
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Wait, I was gonna say one thing, there was no
way you were gonna overhear anything, let alone understand it.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
She was talking loudly. Yeah, But once I saw.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
The cameras getting closer and closer to them, I'm like, shit,
this is not looking good.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
What's going on right now?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I mean, like, I can only imagine what was like
in the conversation, considering we only saw a snippet of
what V said to Nicole. But like, when you found
out that she decided to change her mind, were you
even more pissed at Nicole for teasing you about possibly
letting you off the hook.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
For the elimination? Well, first, I'm not gonna lie. I
was better.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
I was like, this is not fair. And then it's
just kind of like, all right, you know what, you
can't be mad. You gotta go play the game. You
have to just laugh this off and be like whatever.
And then I'm just like, you know what, I'm gonna
fuck this bitch's game up. So I was like, I know,
I have to go back down and we get time
to kind of talk to the other cast members.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
I'm planting seeds to.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Make sure if I lose this, you guys do not
let Nicole get soe final. I am already setting her
I'm setting up.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Her death already.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
What were you saying?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I was just letting people know she's doing this, she's
doing that. You need to watch her with Laurel oh.
I heard her say this about you. Oh, I was baby.
I was playing seeds all up and down.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
And were they like real seeds or were you just
like making up rumors to just not s with her?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Could she was on fire?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
She was on fire.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I know which ones were real. But it's okay.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
So you end up getting down there with the call,
obviously you're heated up. You hear the rules of the
elimination and it's like you said, it's another physical elimination.
What was your strategy going into it? Obviously you got
to watch the guys first. Did you learn anything from
the guys round? And then like, what was your strategy
going into competing.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
My strategy with going into this, It's just like, okay,
if I can run to one side faster than Nicole
and just push as much weight of one side of
the rope.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
On her side, and then just I'm gonna have to just.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Try to fight her way around it, like I'm gonna
just I can get to the rope first.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, and then she got to the opposite side of
the rope first. So it was like, you were there
rules in the game that you had to choose different
sides or was it just.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
No no rules they actually gave us, Like we only
had like thirty minutes to like get the rope on
the side, and we're all thinking our heads, why did
we need thirty minutes to push this thing over?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
No one's gonna last thirty minutes doing this.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
But what we didn't realize later on is that there
was like some n slacks of the rope. You had
to have some of the rope at least one part
of your side, so you could have just started pulling
rope with your hands instead of wrestling it. None of
us paid attention to the rules that well oh my yeah,
so yeah, me and Nicole just we didn't think about that,
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and we obviously you could tell we had the same
strategy to go on one side of the ropes.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
But this is Nicole.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
No dude wants to go against her, Like have you
seen her body? Like it's insane.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, she's she's built for these kinds of eliminations. Like
I think it was in her particular gameplay. It was
the perfect storm for her to go in, no matter
who was in there, to go in and try to
win a start because she didn't have one. So I
get why she did what she did, but yeah, it
sucks that it was against you and that there was
this major I mean, I love Veronica too, so either way,
like it would have been she did to see either
one of you leave the game. But it was like, damn,
(36:57):
Jazz has just given us all of this great content
right now, She's going She's.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Going head to head with some of the biggest names
in the game.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I have I literally have gone against some of the
biggest names. The only person I haven't gone against Toy.
You're a big name.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Please, I don't want to go against you in a
Hall of in the future. I don't want that from
my life.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Okay, we're not putting it.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I got to look after.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
We're not putting that out there. We're gonna ask we're
gonna racist from the podcast. Actually we're gonna edit that
far out. We have no interest in that.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
No, and Aniece, I never want to go against you.
You're like the elimination queen. Like I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Thank you. I don't want to do it either, you.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Know, but like I mean, that's what I tell people,
that's my resume.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Like I've gone against some of the biggest names, So
I'm proud of proud of myself for that one.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, and like you don't back down, like you see
it in your eyes. You're kind of just like ready
to go for it. And even after it was over,
like Nicole literally came down there, teased you with potentially.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Staying in going out of the game.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
She picked you to come back in, and then you
have to go against her and some on the physical
and then the game's over and you're like, it's all
a good girl, And I'm like, damn, Like this just
goes to show how authentic of a soul you are. Yes,
you have your moments as we all do, where we
the game gets intense and we speak our truth about
how we feel and you can get spicy, but at
the same time, you have a good heart and it's
(38:09):
just so obvious. So I just think I want to
commend you on just how you play the game.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I think it's dope.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Thank you. I appreciate.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
I mean, like you know, like you said, we all
have our moments, and you know, sometimes it sucks, but
it's like it's part of life. You can't just I
can't be angry about it. I can't control it. I
just have to do what I can. And you know,
at that moment, it's like, I don't hate Nicole. I'm
not happy that she's not thinking smart, but but it's
just you know, I did. I did have fun doing
that elimination, and I was actually kind of proud of
(38:37):
myself because at one point I'm looking around, I'm like,
I might actually beat her.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Maybe that shit is in my mind. I'm thinking that,
but I thought I had a chance.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
And you know, it's a game, it's not the end
of the world, and it's not like I won't be back.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
So was that a tease that you're coming back?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
You know, we spice.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
So who were you rooting for? Steve Keithla?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
That's so tough.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I love them both, but I was actually rooting for
Keifla to come back because he has such good energy
and he's such a great person to be around in
the house and for him to come back, like, you know,
after all this time, and to like actually meet and
see him, I really wanted him to come back to
the game, and I think a lot of people did.
I think this was a it was a tough one
(39:24):
to like see him like lose.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, I feel like that's gonna be felt by a
lot of people. He seems pretty cool. His wife seems cool.
She's beautiful, I know, right.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
She's so gorgeous. Oh my god, Like.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I know, dude, and like, and you could just see,
like he's had such.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
An awesome season even though like he wasn't there for
as long as you know, people wanted him there for Like,
he really showed up and he had many times when
he performed incredible. And it sucks when you get injured
like that and you can't really perform to your ability.
It happens to literally anybody at any age. So I
don't want to hear anybody in the the comments or
whatever saying and he's old, because literally at any age,
(40:03):
you can get injured.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
At any age.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Nicole got her shoulder popped out by Cam on Double Agents,
Like anybody can get injured.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
In this game. So oh my Brandon ankle during the
final Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
And that's the thing people understand. I've told people, like
even when like in my twenties when I played this game.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
You play injured all the time, like everybody.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
You couldn't even tell people back in the day, yeah
you because they just vote you in. You're like, I
have asthma. They were like, we're voting her in. Yeah,
I broke a nail. She broke a nail. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
So now that you are unfortunately out of the game,
who are you? Who are you rooting for? Who would
you like to win this whole thing?
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Oh gosh, honestly, I want to see everyone this I think,
you know, like I said before, she's sneaky, she's planned
the game better than I realized, and I think and
she's actually performing very well, you know, So I would
like to see her.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
I think she deserves that.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
I think, I know watching her back in the day,
she didn't have the greatest challenge time, so I would
definitely like to see her win. Of course, I would
love to see Derek win, you know. I mean, John
A's won the past All Stars, so let's keep it
back in the can Kuon family.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
So I'd love to see Derek winn.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
And then I go on All Stars five and I
win that win, and we just keep it all can coon.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I love keeping it all cancuon.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
That's weird.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
It's interesting that you would say that you want Abra
to win, especially because I guess in the beginning of
this interview, like the way you complimented, which I'm seeing
now the way her techniques as being sneaky, Like I
almost feel like that was like a dig at her gameplay.
But now I'm understanding that you support it. Is that
what I'm getting at?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I do?
Speaker 6 (41:44):
I support like what she did? You know, she's you know,
it's definitely not a diggot. I think she's a great person.
It's just you don't expect that from someone just by
looking at her, you know, and just what I saw
in her in the house.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
So I'm just she shocked me. She threw one she had,
she threw one over my head. I'll give her that one.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Well, I'm excited to see what else happens this season,
but it's going to be a total bummer that you're
not there.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
You know, when we.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Got on this podcast, you said that you had a
lot of opinions about how the season went. Is there
anything that we missed that you want to talk about
before we head out.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
Well, first of all, who's ever doing the music? I
absolutely freaking love it. This is bringing me back. I'm
love it, So let's keep the music going. I'm so
excited about it.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
You know, this has been a fun season.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
I'm like, you know, I definitely stated it a couple
of times in the episodes. I've never played a game
like this. I've always kind of been a little bit
more like behind the scenes and like kind of just
let everyone else make those moves. But and I just
you know, whatever, But this time I really wanted to
play a game and get dirty and call people out
and really try something different, you know. And I think
(42:56):
I'm proud of the way I played this game. I'm
happy how I played this game. So it was fun.
I hope to be back on All Stars with mine
going on the flagship either and showing some of these
young kids.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
How I was really supposed to be fucking done in
the house.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Off what they wanted to Kay, let's go jas Han, Yeah,
damn go, I can go.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Who's who's pissing you off?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
From the flagship?
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (43:27):
What's that one?
Speaker 4 (43:29):
What's his name? Something with the Syrian Saurians? Three? Oh yeah,
he's annoying. Emmanuel. I don't know what the fuck is
going on with that little boy.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
He gotta get his ship together past lovers, sorry bad,
I don't care. And then that Olivia girl, Baby, what
was you thinking you've done through your your bride or
die and his homegirl?
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Like, I forgot what. I didn't know what I was thinking.
You exactly what she was thinking. Don't be stupid. He
was playing a game. Say, I was playing the game ship. Damn.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Oh, jazz hands. It's good old jazz hands.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, you may need that on.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
The flagship because they're like.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
We're just not gonna say anything.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
We're just gonna play for real.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Sneaky, such a scared game. Don't be scared. Like all
of y'all can't go to the end and win.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Shit, Yeah it's true, Jesus, but they sure as help try.
They sure I'm bringing you and you and you and you.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
And you my rookie mistakes.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, well you said that.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
It's interesting because you said that you were proud of
the way you played the season, which I think you
should be, But then in your interview on All Stars,
you were like, I don't know if I'd play that again,
Like that if I were to come back, what are
your thoughts on how you played? Now?
Speaker 6 (44:42):
I think I just said that just in the moment,
because you're still come still pissed off. Yeah, but I
am proud of after watching everything, I'm proud of how
I played the game and really thinking about it. Of course,
there are some things I would tweak, you know a
little bit, and that I can't get. I'm not gonna
give away what I would tweak, so you just have
to wait and see for next time.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Okay, Well bye, I got jazz Ham Yeah, Licy jazz Man.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I love this.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Well, dude, it's literally been number one a pleasure to
watch you this season. It's been, like I am, I
love the game that you played. It's been so out
there and just bold. And I don't think it's fair
to say you're anybody's mouthpiece, because if you're about to
go up against the Lions, you go up against and
you still bark back like you're obviously.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Crazy within your own.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Mind, but in the best way possible, you have your
own your own you can tell it comes from you.
So I just think it's amazing to watch you compete,
and yeah, it's awesome to connect with you on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Again.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
If anybody wants to follow you on Instagram or on
any of your social media platforms, where can they follow
you to stay connected with you.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
On Twitter you can find me It's Jazzy Ray I
should probably change it it's jazz hands now yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
And then on Instagram and TikTok you can find me
at jazz MTV.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Well, thank you so much, Jazmine. It was so good
to talk.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Thank you ladies for having me. It's always a pleasure
talking to you too.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Never a dull moment with the spicy, spicy Kyenne jazz
hands ky just hands. Oh god, I mean it's probably
one of the best things you've come up with.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
But you know what, I can't take credit because she
she she.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Helped me channel that for her. It was my spirit guides.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
This is who the not the spicy spirit guides.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, they were like, this is dude.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
She's amazing, Like even even the way she lost, Like
I just have nothing but positive things to say about her.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
I think it was great.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
She wasn't you know, and then she she gave us
what we needed in that interview.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yeah, she did. She's awesome. I really enjoy it and
I love following her on social media. So I highly
recommend to anybody who is interested in Jasmine in a
following kind of.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Way to check out her Instagram handle.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
And if you want to send her jazz hams. Yeah, Tory,
where can people find you? Follow you, support you, and
and do a jazz routine in your dms?
Speaker 3 (47:10):
You can find me at the mall it's going down,
find me at the clube is going You can find
me at Tory Underscore Deal at Instagram. Oh no, no, no,
at toy Underscore Deal on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
And yeah, just honestly just slide through, say what's up?
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Like, I read as many messages as I can.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
I really try to respond to all my dms, and
if you send me pictures of Anissa, I'm more likely
to respond.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
So just know that.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Go Google search your favorite Anissa image.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Oh nope, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Go go to Anissa's Instagram and screenshot your favorite image
that she's posted consensually, and you tell you message out
to me and Anissa, where can they find.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
You? Can follow me at Anissa MTV that's a n
e s a MTV on Instagram. That's where I am.
And thanks for joining us for another episode of MTV's
Official Challenge Podcast. And if you liked this episode, please
rate and review us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts and
tell a friend.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
And remember you can watch The Challenge All Stars four
and more on Paramount Plus and
Speaker 1 (48:17):
We'll see you next time on MTV's Official Challenge Podcast
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