July 14, 2022 • 48 mins
The alleged mastermind of BB23, Tiffany Mitchell, joins Devyn and Da’Vonne on the podcast this week. She discusses what it was like be turned on by the Big Brother alliance, the call she got from Shan after the season ended, and what was really going on between her and Cinco.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, it's Devin Simone, a two time Challenge finalist
and host of the Challenge Aftermath. And it's your girl,
z A von Rogers. Now you know me from the
Challenge and also America's favorite all star from Big Brother.
And this is MTV's official Challenge podcast as Challenge you
sa edition? Ain't that the truth? And what an episode
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that was? Like, oh, I can't. First of all, I'm
gonna just start calling TJ diabolical because he takes so
much joy and pleasure into mixing things up. And now
that we have this whole algorithm thing in there, like,
I just TJ is having way too much fun. What
are your thoughts on this algorithm? Now, let's think to TJ,
because what makes me laugh is when he cackles at
(00:44):
how people fall the hypoper water like he hits so hurt, right,
he really does. But this episode, Devin messy, Oh so
episode with Caddy and I told you it was gonna
be some foolishness around it around Sinko because that man
is fine and there is no other Well, let me,
(01:05):
it's not a lot of eye candy in there. I know,
what was that on the take? She said there was
no other. Uh No, I I agree. He is a
nice piece of eye candy. And you know, when you
were in a house like that and tensions are running
high and you don't have a lot of other distractions,
you know, it's easy to kind of get caught up
in that way. So there's definitely a lot of drama
(01:27):
happening there. I just wanna say this was a shock
for me because I did not expect it to end
the way that it did. Like, at no point did
I see them going into elimination. At no point did
I see them losing that elimination. Like I was just shocked.
But that damn Jane, that Jane time's gonna row now
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he just coming out. You know, my love for James
kind of grows more and more. Like I was side
eyeing him when he was hyper ventilating coming off of
that thing. You know, I was like, James, get up,
get you know, and you grit through your teeth. But yes,
so but he pulls it out again like Jay money, okay, sir,
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like and he looked like he was having fun too.
It was just crazy. But I also can't get into
like what they did to Tiffany, Like my girl was
a blind side, and I don't know, you know more
than I don't know. I don't know if that feels fair.
What does it feel fair to you? Davion? Like knowing
the crew like that? Like, no, not at all. Um.
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Tiffany got a heavy, heavy reputation. She also was voted
in America's Favorite. She got a heavy, heavy, heavy reputation,
and there's a lot of controversy because a lot of
people say that she actually should have been the one
to win the season, and a lot of people don't
like that. When you shine, people don't like that. And
so her coming into this season, it's unfortunate because you
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come in with certain people attached to you and then
you start to see them pill off and it's like,
well damn, I'm here alone. And that's that's it's a
it's a sad feeling in I just I mean, it's
what TJ says every I feel like he says it
every season, which is like, even when you think it's
a team game, you have to always remember it is
an individual game, much like Big Brother, right, and so
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like you cannot put much stock into any quote unquote
alliances that you have because it trust no body, no one,
And I mean, the way they were coming after Tiffany
in this episode was pretty pretty rough and pretty tough
to watch. They really really came for How do you
feel about that challenge though, because I actually feel like
(03:36):
it looked kind of fun, Like I feel like that's
one I would want to do. Yeah. I do feel
like a lot of challengers tend to shy away from
heights over water, but that one actually did look a
lot of and it is travel like yeah, right, so
it looks like something I would be interested in doing it.
We know I can't stand the heights over water, but
that didn't look too bad. Yeah, and then Tyson made
it looks super easy but you can't go. I mean
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the fact that Tysons is like, yeah, I'm gonna do
this is about thirty more times. Okay, Tiger Woods have
a seen school. I mean, Justine I feel like got
the real win out of that because she's like, you
know what, I'm gonna just stand up here on land
like Ariel after she gets her feet, and I'm gonna
just help put the letters in and you can go
back in the water over and over and over again
and bring more letters Like that was smart strategy, though
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she had already said, you know, I do the word
games on my phone and so I know where my
lane is. And she was like, you're gonna do that
part and I stay over here, and it was teamwork
made the dreamwork. Teamwork made that dreamwork. Who was the
one who wrote manipulate? Oh that was um Angela. As
long as word girl messed up, I think she thought
a big brother whoever had because that's one of our challenges.
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That's one of our comps. You go out, you swim
around for letters, and then you come back and you
have it's whoever build the longest word that's the one
who wins. And so she came back with manipulating. You know,
she had it in the bag, and we like no baby,
new show, new rules, Like right, she's over here writing
anti disestablishmentarianism, girl, that don't That does not help. Y'all
need you to break it down into dog poug log
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hog so you can get more words and more points
lesson learn for the next one. But I am so
excited for this interview. I feel like we got some
real tea which we love, and some insights coop and
it's cool hearing how you big brother ers interact even beforehand,
because you've shared, You've spilled a little t two about
(05:23):
why some of the comments were maybe extra deceptive because
you know, I don't want to give it away, but
you had some insight behind the scenes as well. Day,
So yeah, be your whole friends out here while girl
tell me about it. Let's get into this interview. We
have an incredible guest for all of you today. She
is a legendary Big Brother competitor. She was a part
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of the cookout on season twenty three. Some say she
was the master of it all and she really stirred
the pot this episode, which unfortunately led to her being
sent home that and being carried to her bunk bed.
But we'll get into that. But we're very excited to
get her side of the story now. Tiffany Mitchell is
on the podcast today, so let's get into this interview
with her. Tiffany, my girl, My girl, my girl. Welcome
(06:18):
to the podcast. First and foremost, Devin and I are
so happy to have you here, girl, and I want
to dive into this episode because girl, what girl? Okay,
first of all, let's let's just let's okay, let's start here, okay,
Because you know that you were someone who was crowned
and rightfully earned the title of Masterminding Big Brother twenty three. Right, So,
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did you feel any pressure to maintain that title or
did you fear, you know, you could potentially lose that
title going into this challenge season. Um, I, you know,
there's always pressure when when you have won something and
you have been good or people have deemed you to
be great at something, there's always the pressure to succeed
(07:01):
again or to outdo yourself. But then I also didn't want, Um,
I didn't want the pressure of people thinking that about me,
Like I wanted to be low key, but I also
did want to have an asset because I knew that
I was not going to be a physically strong asset
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compared to the other women, So I did want to
be at least smart, but I didn't want that to
intimidate anyone or be used against me. And getting into
that tippic because it very much in this episode seems
like the other women are against you, girl, They're gunning
for your dub that with a hard you just are
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coming after you hard. Do you do you feel like
that was fair? Like do you think it was respect
to the game you played on Big Brother? Do you
think they were just haters? Like, tell us what are
your real thoughts about that? Girl? This is the story
of my life. Bitch has been mad at me on
yepp girl, it's just been coming from me my whole life.
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You know, if if other people like you, if you're magnetic,
if you've got a great personality, if you're good at something,
if you're a winner, if you're a star, if you're pretty,
if you're attracted, if men like you, if women like you,
if you get money, if you drive a nice car,
all of those things are me and so it just
makes it just makes other people intimidated. It pisses them off.
(08:27):
I'm not out here flaunting my female assets, but you
best believe I'm gonna use what I got to get
what I want. So with that, were you were you
using because cache I believe was one who said you
were using quote you're feminine assets to play the game.
Do you feel there was an element like were you
trying to play the game in that moment or were
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you really flirting like real talk? No, you know what,
I am just a fun person. We're in we're in
the compound with nothing to do. It's men, it's women.
And that's it. So you are going to y'all we
put it, bring a dog in there, and I'm gonna
play with it. So not a dog tip. Yeah, okay, okay,
(09:11):
but we're we're having fun. It's casual. Also, I've met
Sinko before we went into the house. That's my friend.
We have a good time. We just having we're just
having fun. And if that gets up under your skin, girl,
I'm gonna need you to get some thicker scan. How
much fun have you guys had tif You said you
guys were friends and you're just having a good time.
(09:33):
How good of a time have you two had on
or off the show? Just wondering. Yeah, no, let's wake
it up because that man it's fine and we want
it now. Yeah okay, So so Sinko is fine. Don't
get me wrong. But Sinko is my friend and we
have not crossed any lines. Um now, I WoT you
consider swap at DNA because I want to clear that up. Yeah,
(09:55):
I want. I'll break it down for us, Miss Mitchell. Yes,
I don't know. A lady never kisses in towels, so
you know it's the same space. That's different thing because
they haven't been on our podcast. They can tell when
they come on our podcast, they do in detail. So
it sounds like, if I'm correct, you guys have swapped
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some DNA via a kiss. Is that correct? I don't
know if he is male or female, and he don't
know if I am neither. We didn't talk about the Netherlands.
We're talking about up So what she's saying, she's not
saying no though to the kiss. So it sounds like
they've made out. We're just gonna go ahead. Now, did
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you do it in the challenge house or did you
only make out before after the show? Huh Um, it
wasn't caught on camera. Oh like a true bro. Well
there we go, girl, Well there it goes. I want
to tap onto something because you had mentioned earlier about
how sometimes, you know, when you're a starring people see
that they have a tendency to hate. My grandma used
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to tell me long time I'm go that sometimes people
will see the light that shines within you and it
offends the demons that are in them. Okay, so don't
take that personal. Just know that there is a light
that shines within you, and you continue to shine that
light and don't let anybody dem it for any reasons.
You continue to be Tiffany because Tiffany is who she is,
period the end. Okay, now I do want to get
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into this though, because you we've all at Oz's event.
We hung out with Shann like she was in our pictures.
We was all together, we was hanging out. So how
did it feel for you to see Shan say she
didn't trust you and she was telling your business about
number five? Mister Sinko, what happened? Oh my god? Honestly,
we can call this thing a game, we can call
(11:44):
these shows games, but we are actually our real selves
and this is real. This is real shit, This is
real life because outside of that game, we talk, we
communicate outside of that game. I have friends, family, or
recordation outside of that game. I have a son who watches.
So you know, when you're supposed to be my so
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called friend me, I mean a friend to me, You're
not supposed to throw my shit out there for everybody else.
So as a I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm
an older woman. I don't do that. I got people
who I was friends with and I know all of
their business and we don't talk anymore, and I don't
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talk about their business. I do understand that this is
a game, but that was shady, Shan, that ship was shady.
Did you hear that that had been going on like
after the fact or was did you not realize she
was saying all that until watching the episode. Shan tried
to call me and clear it up. She was like,
oh my god, Tip, Oh my god, I am so
sorry because listen, Alyssa and Dax just told me not
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to trust you, and they told me that you were
coming from me and I didn't know, and I just
was really believing him, and they really got in my head.
And then somebody was saying stuff about you, like you
had been with these guys and like you have you
Like Cyril was trying to ask me questions about you,
and I was like, I'm not getting into that. I'm
not telling to Spensness like you're gonna have to ask Tip.
But they were trying to get me to tell them,
and I wouldn't tell them anything. Girl that we saw
(13:13):
that's not what happened at all. And did any of
them trying to approach you in the house because we
saw you talk to Tyson right, uh? And I know
that you know they can't show every so much is
going on in that house that as a viewer we
don't get to see everything. We just don't. They can't
do that. But we saw you talk to Tyson and
he was like, you know, who do you think I
should pick for elimination? Did you um plead your case
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with anyone else? And did any of the women who
were kind of hating on you approach you in the
house during that time. That's what I want to know.
I already knew that the women, especially the Love Island women,
I knew that they were they had no words for me.
They weren't they would be cordial, but I knew I
didn't have them, and I did not feel at that
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time that there was anything that I could do to
get them. Looking back, I should I should have pleaded
my case a little more with Justine, But it was
almost like when Justine and Tyson one. Justine really was
not a person that had a lot of words for
me in the house, and I felt that if I
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was on her radar, I was just going to be
on her radar. Whereas I know better than that, Like
I should have went and seeing what I could offer
her and what kind of deals I could make with
her for her to work with me, But in that moment,
I just felt that they were all close connected they
wanted be gone. I felt like she was doing cash.
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It's dirty work, and I didn't feel like I had
a chance. So that was kind of where I felt
with that I talked with Tyson. I felt like Tyson
and I were good. And it's interesting to see Xavier, girl,
you know, it's interesting to see him sa up there
(15:02):
half Tyson's back with I would do damage control for you.
When Tyson said Xavier and Ozza, the first thing I
said was, I think it should be Enzo and Alyssa.
I really pulled him away from asa An Xavier, and
here Xavier is pushing me right into his hands. Thanks
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brou Did he know that? Did Xavier know that you
played a huge role in help saving him elimination before him?
I did not go to x and tell him that
I had a conversation with him about with Tyson about him,
because I already knew that he was having conversations with
Tyson himself. And then sometimes you'll say something and somebody like,
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oh I told them this, and then their brains will
just overthink and wonder what did you actually say? Did
it really help me? Are you lying to me about it? So?
I was like, after the situation passes, then you know
me and me and X will talk about it. But
hopefully I'm sitting here hoping he doesn't go in, hoping
that my conversation was effective. It was effective already. So
(16:06):
here's my question for you. Because when you did go
to Tyson and you were telling him, you know, you
threw it on Enzo and Alyssa. Now people had already
pegged you as she's the glue, she's the one that
holds big brother together, so on and so forth. They
were intimidated by that. So by you basically shifting him
from Aza and Xavier, do you think you showed your hand?
(16:27):
Do you think that was wise? Because people fear numbers,
So do you think you pretty much showed your hand?
I wondered that too, And I honestly didn't shift him
from X as being I didn't want X to go in.
What Tyson had asked me was who does he think
that he could put in that if they made it
out of elimination, would not be able to target him
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or wouldn't have a vindictive attitude towards targeting, and I said,
your best scenario for that is probably Enzo on Alyssa,
because Enzo may not make it out of elimination, but
even if he comes in, I don't know how much
sway he has to target you, whereas X. I could
see X going into elimination, coming back from elimination and
(17:14):
definitely actively targeting you. So I painted into Tyson as
I'm trying to help you make a decision for what's
best for you, not what was best for me. Right,
So you said when you got Cashell, when the algorithm
picked him as your partner, Right, you said, I feel
double safe because I Love Island has my back or
(17:35):
I'm with Love Island. However, you're pleading your case to Tyson.
The girls you said out your you said yourself that
they you really didn't have them. You definitely said you
didn't have Justine. So where did you feel protective? Where
did the confidence come from? Was that just sicco Did
you think he had pull like that? It wasn't necessarily
that I had Loved Island. I was paired with Cashell,
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who was Love Island, and I thought that Cashell may
have been protected by Love Island, not by proxy? Yeah,
by proxy? I felt that I was protected, like I'm
protected by Big Brother. I should be cassuals protected by
Love Island. We shouldn't be an option here. But Love
Island had no loyalty right right, because we didn't looked
(18:17):
like she took Pride girl. She was happy, was very
very very happy. Did any so something we don't see
on the show? And I'm so curious about this. It's
like the final walk off, right, Like, was there anyone
who said goodbye to you as you walked away from
that elimination in that moment that now watching the episode
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back and seeing a lot of the conversations that were
being had behind your back, was there anyone that said
bye to you? That shocked you? Right? Spill it? I didn't.
I didn't hear anyone say anything to me, with the
exception of Aza and Kylind both said bye to love you,
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and it took me a second to figure out if
I actually wanted to respond back. And definitely not anything
to do with Osa because I love her a thousand percent.
I don't even care if she had anything to do
with me going to elimination because she would have told
me front off the gree and to my face, like girl,
I had to say your name because that's how she is,
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but it wasn't her. And I did hear. I just
really Azi and Kai and you saw and I saw
everyone cheering for um James and Kayla. I heard that
while I was in elimination. And it does get to
you mentally, like you all of those things are going
through your head. You got the pressure of trying to
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win the elimination. You you're not as a person who
is being thrown in. You're not even prepared for elimination.
I'm James and Kayla are excited. They've had all this time.
They knew that they were going so mentally they're ready
for it. They don't they don't have anything to lose.
So me being thrown in and then hearing everybody cheer me,
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knowing that the only way I could have been thrown
into elimination was Babe had to be okay with me
going in, and the fact that no one told me,
and except Oza on the Azza did tell me that
she heard my name, and Kylan did tell me that
he heard my name. With the exception of those two,
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no one even mentioned to me anything. And Alyssas of
Fake No one said, no one said a thing, So
I knew that Babe had turned on me. So I
was like, fuck all of y'all. Yeah, did you think
that you because James says in the beginning, you know
that you are the glue that holds Big brother together.
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So going into the house, or at least going into
this episode, is that what you were feeling? Like? Were
you feeling fairly confident that you were kind of a
center force for them? Were you already on the outs?
Like what was your vibe? You know, hindsight twenty of course,
but like in that moment before we got to elimination,
before we even got to the challenge of the day,
where you feeling like, yeah, you know, I'm cool everybody,
(21:01):
I'm Big Brothers looking to me like, you know, I'm
really protected when it comes to them. Yeah, I hope
I was the glue, and I hope that if my
leave and make them all go home, except but if
they then what Jane said is true. So, um, well,
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I did not necessarily feel that I was the glue
that was holding BB twenty three together. Um. I didn't
want um everyone to to think about the cook out.
I didn't want them to think that a tip was
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around here masterminding something. Honestly, I'm not even trying to mastermind.
I'll just be thinking, Ship, you might come up with something.
I just be thinking I need that to be your tagline.
Like I just be thinking. I'm out up here, like, oh,
let me create. That's not That's not how I wake up,
but I do wake up recognizing acknowledging a problem and
(22:06):
trying to create a solution. Come on. So, um, when
James was like, She's the glue, I think that was game,
which was a good good seed to plant. But we'll
find out if I was the glue. If they trinkle
up out of that house right after meeting, we know
it's true. Girl. So here's the thing. When it comes
to Big Brother, we already know that pregaming happens. Okay,
(22:30):
that's just one of the facts about BB. Pregaming happens.
And so did you talk to anyone from Big Brother
before you came on the show? Talked to everybody? Um,
talk to talk to Kai. Okay. So initially what I
thought going in, I thought it was definitely gonna be
BB twenty three was going to stick together, which was
(22:50):
Kai X and I know how long those two were
going to stick together, but I think we all had
a mutual understanding that me Kai X as a dear Alyssa.
I think that was it from our season. Then we
had David Angela and so were We all were like,
we're definitely not going to target each other, but we
felt that BB twenty three would definitely be a target.
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I am probably the most problematic out of BB twenty three,
meaning like, I'm going to say what I want to say,
I'm going to do what I want to do. They're
not going to control me. And I know that they
were okay with cutting me in BB twenty three because
of liability or the lack of ability to control me.
You better find my mama. And so me being on
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the challenge, I did feel that I could be someone
that they would be okay with going home because they
were okay with it before. Yeah, we saw that, we
saw it girl. Okay, So let's let's let's get back
into this elimination, Okay, or let's jump into this elimination. So,
first of all, this is a mix of both memory
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and endurance, right, and on top of that, you've just
been blindsighting Okay, So what were you pulling from to
try to win this elimination? Like what was going on
in your head? It was a lot. It's the pressure.
I also, as crazy as this sounds like, um, I
don't like when like all lies are on me, that
is lies. It was. It was like, you know, if
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it's something I'm great at, yah, watch me, but something
I have no idea how I'm going to do. I'm
not a memory comed beast. Like memory is definitely not
my strong suit. But I also know my legs are
probably the weakest things on me. So when I saw
those bikes and then I heard my name, I said,
(24:45):
a girl, you should have prepared better. Which was the
hardest part because if you're saying both of those you
don't feel are your strong suits, like which element? Like
if you could have done it where it was one
person on the team did one part of it right
like and then one person did the other part. Which
option would would you have taken your chances at the
memory piece or would you taking your chance at the bike?
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I told myself when I got up there and I
started paddling, well, to answer your question, I knew that
I was going to have to focus on the memory
part of it, because I knew the strength of my legs.
I know my home strength. I said, well, Tiff, you're
definitely going to have to kill the memory portion of this.
And if I could have had a choice of who
was going to do what, Cash Cashell's legs never slowed
(25:28):
down from the beginning to the end. And let me
tell y'all about those bikes we got up there. This
is not Big Brother. You can take Big Brother and
hauled it up on a plaque because that is a
life of luxury. Please let them know, Please let them
know we've been trying to us. Can I just say,
because I feel like these old school challenge we have
been trying to say that to people forever when they're like, oh,
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it's the same thing. No, no, it is not. TJ
does not care. And another thing, I sprained my ankle
in the challenge, so I'm icing my ankle And let
me just advise anyone in your future, don't ever show
that you're injured. You better walk on that broke foot.
I don't care. So my ankle was screwed up, my
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legs are getting weak. That's why you see me pushing
on with my arms. I'm using my arms to push
my legs. But Cashell, I do have to say this.
Casha was an amazing partner from the beginning to the end.
When we had to compete in the daily challenge, I said, Cashel,
I'm not the strongest swimmer. I'm terrified if heist. He said,
I can swim. I'm cool with heights. I will get
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up there, I will jump, I will get the letters.
We had a whole plan. We stuck to it. We
did what we said. I said, I'm great with words.
I will get up here and create as many words
if you can swim. We did what we needed to do.
When we got into the into elimination, Cashell was hung
the fuck over, baby. Cashel was messed up from the
night before. And I mean, I don't want to tell Anny,
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I don't want to spill the tea, but we were
a target. I had a spring ankle. Cash what was hungover,
and so Casha be. But you know what, that's what
you would think. Cashel came in there. He never stopped peddling.
That man was peddling like his life depended on it.
He was getting rid of that alcohol, for sure. He
was going And I was like I feel so bad
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because if it was a compt him, a challenge with
him by himself, if that challenge was just strictly on Cashel,
he would have come out. I would I really held
him back, and I was the cause of us losing
because I didn't have the strength to give it what
we needed. And he still was like, Tip, it's all good.
I love you. I've never even watched the challenge. I said,
I'm so glad, and you know, so that brings us
(27:35):
to a good point too. So we just talked to
Aza and she said, you know, it took her. It
took some convincing to get her to agree to do
the challenge, and she did it take any convincing you
know on your part or was it an immediate like, yes,
let's do this. I'm so glad Devin that you asked
me that question. When we got the opportunity and the offer,
(27:57):
the invite to do the challenge usay, I said to myself,
I said, Tiff, do it's just what you want to do?
You know what it requires? Or do you want to
find something else? Just said, you know what, let me
just take a chance and do it. I'm forty one
years old, I'm not looking to get out here, breakbones.
I don't have anything to prove to anybody. I'm just
living my life the best as I can. But I said,
(28:18):
you know what, I am going to do it. I
talked to every single one of them. A. Lissa, No,
I'm not doing it, Derrick X, I'm not doing it.
X No, I'm not doing it. Aza, I'm not doing it. Kylan.
I know now if I want to do it, because
I want to see if I'm still going to be
eligible for the MTV Challenge. Nobody wanted to do it.
(28:41):
All wants to be fair. Aza did say she made
up her mind seven days before her multiple phone calls.
I wanted to put a disclaimer. When I'm talking shit
about anybody in BB twenty three. I'm talking about everybody
except Oza in Chada because that's my baby too. But
everybody that was there, yes, I'm listen. We know Aza
(29:03):
didn't want to do it. She was very clear on that.
But because she's not, that's not what she's looking to do.
But these other people who showed up and act like, oh,
we really wanted to do this, they all said no.
I said, I think I'm going to do it. And
then I said, you know what, I'm going to do it.
Then Kai says I'm going to do it too. Then
(29:23):
next thing, you know, X wants to know if I'm
really going to do it, he might do it. Alyssa
is going are you going to do it? If you
do so, then next thing I know, I said, yes,
Now everybody wants to do it. We all come from
yeah usually at least in the beginning. So like, you
guys are all new this season, right on the Challenge USA.
It's never been done before. But you guys are coming
(29:44):
into the show with an advantage because each of you
are coming in with people from a respective show, you know,
like that you kind of know or have a relationship with.
Are you excited now that you're gone? Are you excited
to see the algorithm create havoc among the different Big
Brother Ali sciences? Like are you are you sitting back
a little bit? Are you giving the same evil snicker
that Justine gave when you left the house at the
(30:07):
fact that this algorithm is going to destroy whatever alliances
they think that they have in this game. I mean
the fact that Big Brother did not have my back
at all. I think that that was a mistake on
their part. They should have we should have had each
other's backs. Now I'm not saying I'm any different because
I was saying Alyssa an Enzo, but I don't really
(30:30):
care about Alyssa like that. Enzo's cool, but Alyssa, I
don't trust her. She's a snake, MBB. She's a snake
on the challenge, She's a snake in real life. So
I didn't care if she went home. But at the
same time, I would have wanted us to all stick together.
If it comes down to where we have to choose,
(30:52):
then you know, we have to choose. They chose to
get rid of me, So whatever happens to them on
their way out the door, yeah, the Justin snicker? To them,
who the Justine snicker? I feel like we need to
coin that. Is there anything you would change about how
you played this season? Tip or would you do it
exactly the same? No? You know what this is. This
(31:12):
was totally different. I was you know, I have only
been off of BB probably like six months or so.
However it's not it was definitely not a year. And
so I'm still like, um, that's still mentally I'm rapped.
I'm trying to still process that you're still kind of
in the game, because anybody I talked to from BB,
(31:33):
somehow in the conversation we still end up talking about BB.
So your head is kind of still in the game.
Then I'm I'm I'm I'm in this. This the challenge
where I am not that that tough of a physical competitor,
And so honestly, for the last six months, I didn't
prepare for the challenge like I prepare for Big Brother.
(31:54):
I was a die hard super fan. I felt like
I knew what I needed to do to prepare, and
I was doing that. The challenge. I was already like,
this is intimidating. I'm a little scared. So like getting
in the gym, getting my training, my work out, my diet. Girl,
I've been traveling around the world. I ain't been doing shit.
So to be clear, you don't have to and I
(32:15):
say this, I only say this too for all the
listeners who aspire to be on it. You don't have
to be in the gym all the time, at least
not to make it to a final. A girl, Tiffany,
I'm telling it to your legs. I too, was on
a bike and had to bike twenty five miles in Bukong,
Chile at the base of a snow covered volcano to
(32:36):
make it through TJ's final. And I did it. I
about died, but I did it, made it to two
finals and didn't ever hit the gym or whatever. And
so certainly I didn't win those finals because I didn't
hit the gym. But I made it to him without
ever hitting the gym. So so I say that because
I feel like we're hearing a theme between Aza, who
I already love, and you, Tiff, which is and I don't.
(32:58):
I'm curious if this is like a woman thing. I'm
curious if this is a big brother thing. I think
day we should keep tallies on this throughout the season
see where it goes. But I'm hearing, at least in
both interviews a moment of these badass women doubting themselves
to a degree or saying, oh, why didn't train, or
oh I didn't know this, or oh I saw you
(33:18):
know Tyson, or I saw that. And I'm not just
saying you tip like I said, I'm kind of pulling
some stuff that as I said also, and it's like no, no, no,
you have all of the tools in you to make
it to the end, not only in this game but
in life. To get it to the end and screw
the rules and what people say is necessary because it's
someone who again still is allergic to the gym, and
(33:39):
who made it to two finals and completed two finals,
like don't give it all up because someone else looks
like they're more physically intimidating or whatever else, Like, if
you want it, you can get it. You got it done.
I understand that, and I do respect that, and I
believe that to be true. I think that if I
had done the challenge first and I'd never like done
(34:00):
or had to prepare for it, I would probably be like, hey,
I gave it my best physical shot. I would have
played a different social game a little bit, because I
think that that was your initial question. I would have
switched up my social game a little bit. But I
think because I know the preparation I did for PEB
and I know the lack of preparation I did for
(34:22):
the challenge, I think that's why I'm like, you know,
you could have been more prepared, especially when you are
a target if you don't think you're going to be
a target, which I don't know who's not. But if
you don't, if you think that people won't look to
come for you, and you can skate by not necessarily skate,
but you can get through the challenge without having to
(34:44):
go into an elimination, then maybe maybe you're fine. But
I knew coming in that, regardless of my size, that
I was want to be a threat and they would
look to target me. Right, So it sounds like you're
a little disappointed in yourself or just like the preparation Yeah,
the preparation piece, for sure, because and not that it
(35:05):
would have made a difference, but I could say to myself,
you know, you did the best that you could to
prepare for this, but I know I didn't. Yeah, Right,
So you know I'm heavy in these Twitter streets, right,
I'm heavy, and I live on Twitter Boulevard. Right. And
so during your season, a lot of people were saying
(35:25):
that you ultimately were responsible for X's win. Basically you
were the sacrificial limb that season. Right. So do you
think after, especially especially after what you just watched, do
you think it was a situation where it was like, Okay,
now let me show that I don't need her. Now
here's the thing, this is what I have been told
by Xavier himself that Alyssa was initially the person a
(35:51):
listen is always the person to go in. That was
who Tyson was going and then Alyssa got one of
the fact that it could have been me or it
could have been her. She was very upset with Xavier
for not making sure that it was me and for
not ensuring that it wouldn't be her. That's when she
poured the faith tears and got his emotions all wrapped up.
(36:15):
He took his ball head ass over there to Tyson
to tell Tyson that he would rather not lose Alyssa
and he would be okay with losing me. So Xavier
threw me under the bus, and that is what caused
Tyson to change his mind, especially when he was getting
like and okay from whoever else he was getting it
(36:36):
okay from. But x really sealed the deal with that.
And I just feel like, damn x Exotic King, you
ain't never got my back, never and I've never said
I've never said anything against him. I have been in
X is my friend. He is still my friend. I
(36:57):
actually talked to x If I don't talk to him
every day, we talk every other day. Me and X
talk a lot, but and it's just like for me.
I watched seasons of the Challenge. I see I see
west Half who whatever female friend he has, like he'll
have her back. I've seen Jordan have girls back. I
see guys go in and have and and have a
(37:20):
girl partner, like I got your back. I make sure
you're good. I was in that house and I told Aza,
I said, I've never felt so alone. Now. I could
have partnered with Sinko and he would have been fine
with that. Like I could have been like, okay, this
is gonna I'm Sinko will have my back. But I
could see Casshe painting this picture around me and Sinko
(37:42):
and her emotions and pulling out the water works and
getting everyone emotionally uncomfortable with however close or cool me
and Sinko were or how close they were not. And
I was like, you know what, I don't want this
Sinko Cashe problem. I going to distance myself from this completely.
I had nobody in there like to protect me, no one. Honestly,
(38:09):
they can put Big D on a challenge and put
them with me, because he is the only man that
I have outside who would go in a game with
me and have my back, and I would trust it.
The other men none of them none. Wow. And that's
so crazy to hear you say, because in the first
episode you made you made it known to the audience
(38:30):
that you and Kylin have a special bond and that
you were going to protect each other. Who made it clear?
You did? You said so, but you didn't say Kaylan
made it clear? Oh Kyle? And yeah, I ask you
what you're saying. Yeah, I need one of them to
make it clear. Yeah, you ain't heard one of them.
I got Tiff back. I ain't gonna let her go in,
but X definitely said I ain't gonna let her list
(38:51):
to go in and say, you know what. You know
he had this thing with her during your season, right,
he had this whatever he had going on, this crushing
them with her, and then she had to be sacrificed.
So do you feel like he was on some I
owe her this? Yeah? Wow? And Tip, now that you've
been sent home, who do you want to win it all?
(39:13):
Not just as funny, I really I really like Tyson.
I like Tyson Tyson, and I will cheer for him.
He's got a great personality. I love the way he
plays the game. He's very chill, he's laid back, he
does not care at all. I like Tyson. He's a
great competitor, He's a really good athlete. I just I
(39:35):
do like the way he plays. And that's just I've
never met him. I didn't even know who he was
before going in. That's just being in the house with him,
watching him compete, watching him socialize. I like Tyson as
a person, and so watching him, I would like to
see him go far on a personal level, like who
(39:57):
I'm sharing for who. I like to see stay. Because
their first that first elimination had me in tears as
a really shocked the life out of me seeing her
strength and her persevere in just you know, be determined
to give it her all. I would love to see
her go very far, like she could win. I'm like,
(40:19):
you deserve it, that's my girl. I love man. She
fought her butt off. I was so proud of her.
Oh my gosh, she fought her butt off and a
rope challenge at elimination at that like the sand Man.
She said, she said, we did it. I said, hugged
me from a distance, girl, I'm not from a distance.
(40:42):
I love so good. All right, So tip, we have
now reached one of our favorite portions of the show.
We like to call it pick your poison. So we
have three questions for you, one question from me, one
question from Davon, and one question that we came up
with together. Now they range from boring like what's your
favorite color? To extra juicy, but we ain't gonna tell
(41:04):
you which one is which. So whose question do you want?
Do you want my question? Do you want Davon's question
or do you want the combination question? Davon question coming
last is gone? Oh, come on, Davin, what's your question?
All right? So you and Cashua look pretty cozy when
(41:27):
you guys got eliminated. You know, I think he had
his arm around your shoulder. And I know going through
such a strong experience like an elimination together can really
bring a couple close together. I also know that when
you get eliminated, you typically get put in hotel rooms
before you know, you kind of get shipped back off
to America, and sometimes things can happen. I mean, you
said he was hungover going into the elimination. Did anything
(41:48):
happen in the hotel room with you and Cashua at
any point? As you guys were journeying back to the USA.
Was there a kiss, Was there a handhold? Was there
a snuggle? Just to snuggle? An innocent snuggle? Did you
inspect other parts? You know what what happened between you
and Kashall, don't worry. We won't tell anybody except for
(42:09):
the listeners of this. You know, me and Cashell did
share an experience together, being eliminated together. And when we
got back to the hotel UM and I finally got
my phone, I said, you know what, they gave me
my phone and they did not give me a charger
and Cashell said, you can use mine, and that's as
(42:31):
close as we got. Did he charge you up? And
charge you up? Said no, no, no, no, Casha. Casha
was a total gentleman. Um. I don't know what happened
with him and Kia. He seemed sweet from the time
I met him to the time we left Argentina. He
(42:53):
never did anything inappropriate, never came at me wrong. We
didn't have any kind of intimate connection. We just had
a bond where we got partnered together. We had to
work together, and unfortunately we got eliminated, and I personally
felt really bad because I just felt that he deserved
to still be there based on the efforts that he
(43:15):
put put in to to try to get us through
that elimination. But no nothing between Cashle and I. I
know they think I got these men wrapped around my thing.
I know, girl. They said that basically, you walk into
a room and they dropped like flies. So I was
just trying to understand, you know, what is the tippany way, Um,
They've start worried about me. They hope they get to
(43:37):
be my age and still do what I do. Oh oh,
feel like that's a mine drop. I don't feel like
it's not really much to say after that, Between that
and tippany saying, I just be thinking until like those
are the two come today's episode? Yes? Yes? And can
(43:58):
I just throw one more thing? Look, anytime you said
you were what forty one or something like that, girl,
something unbelievable crossing over to the next number. But really,
in my mind though I'm no older than thirty. Girl,
here's my point. When you someone you were forty one,
and I saw you were doing some of those interviews,
no makeup on that When you have twenty something year
olds shook like that, I'm telling when you girl. I
(44:20):
mean seriously, though, seriously, tif you need to give yourself
all the paths on the back because we have them
shaking like that. Now, I don't know why he needed
to carry you to the bunk bed. I will put
that upcause other than that ankle. Oh, now it makes sense.
It was not like, oh, think I'll carry me, girl.
I don't care nothing about that. And glad you cleared up.
(44:41):
He had to ask me twice. We were chatting. We
were getting ready to go back to the room. You
know how stuff is spread. Those rooms are far apart.
I said, let's go. He was like, you're gonna be
able to walk? I said, I can walk. He said, well,
I can carry you. I said, no, you can't carry man.
He said, I can carry you. Don't even worry about it.
I said, okay, don't keep telling, right, I said, shoot,
And by the time I gotta up in them arms,
(45:02):
I said, he can carry me everywhere, right right right.
I'm glad that up because that makes that makes sense.
That means they were extra hatering. Then if you sprain
your ankle, they were like, that was like double the
hater age. It's funny because never in my young twenty
five year old days that I ever think I wouldn't
be my age and have some twenty year old should
but keep shaking baby like a leak on tree. Well,
(45:25):
thank you so much. This. We hope to see you
on another challenge again. We hope this isn't uh the end. Um,
I've been working out every day. I'm boing, I'm taking
my trainer back. Come on, I said, you're gonna get
these legs to look like Disney. Practice those memory games though,
girl too practice those memory games. Don't get that part. Oh,
(45:46):
I got the little brain app thing on and get
on that bike. Look so sink also, I said, sinko,
I've been working out, he said, but have you been cycling?
We're not friends? Nomall I love that and curm number five.
Thank you so much, Tiffany for being here and being
(46:07):
open with us and sharing. Um, you know this is
my first time meeting you. I know you and Day
go way back, and yeah, we just love having a
flats on a Cadillac. Thanks for having me, ladies. You
guys are so fun. It was a great time for me.
I hope to see you doing this for a long time.
Thanks for inviting me. Thank you yes, you are so
(46:30):
proud of you and like I said, regardless, you know
you're a champ in my book, I don't care across
the board. Same. That was so fun and I feel
like a real mic drop moment. Loved having Tiffany here,
(46:53):
so good, such a fun episode with you. Day let
no girl. Where can they find you on social? Yeah?
If you can find me on Instagram at Davon Diane Underscore,
Twitter of course, at Day Davon Underscore, YouTube Davon Diane
and then say tak at Day Diane Underscore. What about
your dev Well, you know, by the way, I just
have to say Davon. She is the mayor and the
(47:17):
duchess of Twitter, so especially hit her up on Twitter.
Me I'm probably busier on Instagram. It's where you can
see sneak peaks and behind the scenes on my ig story.
So you can find me at Devin Simone on Instagram.
That's Devin with a wy Samo with an ie. You
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can also find me Devin Underscore Simone on TikTok. Had
(47:37):
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Hey everyone, it's Devin Simone, a two time Challenge finalist
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Challenge and also America's favorite all star from Big Brother.
And this is MTV's official Challenge podcast as Challenge you
sa edition? Ain't that the truth? And what an episode
(00:21):
that was? Like, oh, I can't. First of all, I'm
gonna just start calling TJ diabolical because he takes so
much joy and pleasure into mixing things up. And now
that we have this whole algorithm thing in there, like,
I just TJ is having way too much fun. What
are your thoughts on this algorithm? Now, let's think to TJ,
because what makes me laugh is when he cackles at
(00:44):
how people fall the hypoper water like he hits so hurt, right,
he really does. But this episode, Devin messy, Oh so
episode with Caddy and I told you it was gonna
be some foolishness around it around Sinko because that man
is fine and there is no other Well, let me,
(01:05):
it's not a lot of eye candy in there. I know,
what was that on the take? She said there was
no other. Uh No, I I agree. He is a
nice piece of eye candy. And you know, when you
were in a house like that and tensions are running
high and you don't have a lot of other distractions,
you know, it's easy to kind of get caught up
in that way. So there's definitely a lot of drama
(01:27):
happening there. I just wanna say this was a shock
for me because I did not expect it to end
the way that it did. Like, at no point did
I see them going into elimination. At no point did
I see them losing that elimination. Like I was just shocked.
But that damn Jane, that Jane time's gonna row now
(01:49):
he just coming out. You know, my love for James
kind of grows more and more. Like I was side
eyeing him when he was hyper ventilating coming off of
that thing. You know, I was like, James, get up,
get you know, and you grit through your teeth. But yes,
so but he pulls it out again like Jay money, okay, sir,
(02:11):
like and he looked like he was having fun too.
It was just crazy. But I also can't get into
like what they did to Tiffany, Like my girl was
a blind side, and I don't know, you know more
than I don't know. I don't know if that feels fair.
What does it feel fair to you? Davion? Like knowing
the crew like that? Like, no, not at all. Um.
(02:33):
Tiffany got a heavy, heavy reputation. She also was voted
in America's Favorite. She got a heavy, heavy, heavy reputation,
and there's a lot of controversy because a lot of
people say that she actually should have been the one
to win the season, and a lot of people don't
like that. When you shine, people don't like that. And
so her coming into this season, it's unfortunate because you
(02:54):
come in with certain people attached to you and then
you start to see them pill off and it's like,
well damn, I'm here alone. And that's that's it's a
it's a sad feeling in I just I mean, it's
what TJ says every I feel like he says it
every season, which is like, even when you think it's
a team game, you have to always remember it is
an individual game, much like Big Brother, right, and so
(03:14):
like you cannot put much stock into any quote unquote
alliances that you have because it trust no body, no one,
And I mean, the way they were coming after Tiffany
in this episode was pretty pretty rough and pretty tough
to watch. They really really came for How do you
feel about that challenge though, because I actually feel like
(03:36):
it looked kind of fun, Like I feel like that's
one I would want to do. Yeah. I do feel
like a lot of challengers tend to shy away from
heights over water, but that one actually did look a
lot of and it is travel like yeah, right, so
it looks like something I would be interested in doing it.
We know I can't stand the heights over water, but
that didn't look too bad. Yeah, and then Tyson made
it looks super easy but you can't go. I mean
(03:58):
the fact that Tysons is like, yeah, I'm gonna do
this is about thirty more times. Okay, Tiger Woods have
a seen school. I mean, Justine I feel like got
the real win out of that because she's like, you
know what, I'm gonna just stand up here on land
like Ariel after she gets her feet, and I'm gonna
just help put the letters in and you can go
back in the water over and over and over again
and bring more letters Like that was smart strategy, though
(04:19):
she had already said, you know, I do the word
games on my phone and so I know where my
lane is. And she was like, you're gonna do that
part and I stay over here, and it was teamwork
made the dreamwork. Teamwork made that dreamwork. Who was the
one who wrote manipulate? Oh that was um Angela. As
long as word girl messed up, I think she thought
a big brother whoever had because that's one of our challenges.
(04:40):
That's one of our comps. You go out, you swim
around for letters, and then you come back and you
have it's whoever build the longest word that's the one
who wins. And so she came back with manipulating. You know,
she had it in the bag, and we like no baby,
new show, new rules, Like right, she's over here writing
anti disestablishmentarianism, girl, that don't That does not help. Y'all
need you to break it down into dog poug log
(05:01):
hog so you can get more words and more points
lesson learn for the next one. But I am so
excited for this interview. I feel like we got some
real tea which we love, and some insights coop and
it's cool hearing how you big brother ers interact even beforehand,
because you've shared, You've spilled a little t two about
(05:23):
why some of the comments were maybe extra deceptive because
you know, I don't want to give it away, but
you had some insight behind the scenes as well. Day,
So yeah, be your whole friends out here while girl
tell me about it. Let's get into this interview. We
have an incredible guest for all of you today. She
is a legendary Big Brother competitor. She was a part
(05:46):
of the cookout on season twenty three. Some say she
was the master of it all and she really stirred
the pot this episode, which unfortunately led to her being
sent home that and being carried to her bunk bed.
But we'll get into that. But we're very excited to
get her side of the story now. Tiffany Mitchell is
on the podcast today, so let's get into this interview
with her. Tiffany, my girl, My girl, my girl. Welcome
(06:18):
to the podcast. First and foremost, Devin and I are
so happy to have you here, girl, and I want
to dive into this episode because girl, what girl? Okay,
first of all, let's let's just let's okay, let's start here, okay,
Because you know that you were someone who was crowned
and rightfully earned the title of Masterminding Big Brother twenty three. Right, So,
(06:40):
did you feel any pressure to maintain that title or
did you fear, you know, you could potentially lose that
title going into this challenge season. Um, I, you know,
there's always pressure when when you have won something and
you have been good or people have deemed you to
be great at something, there's always the pressure to succeed
(07:01):
again or to outdo yourself. But then I also didn't want, Um,
I didn't want the pressure of people thinking that about me,
Like I wanted to be low key, but I also
did want to have an asset because I knew that
I was not going to be a physically strong asset
(07:22):
compared to the other women, So I did want to
be at least smart, but I didn't want that to
intimidate anyone or be used against me. And getting into
that tippic because it very much in this episode seems
like the other women are against you, girl, They're gunning
for your dub that with a hard you just are
(07:43):
coming after you hard. Do you do you feel like
that was fair? Like do you think it was respect
to the game you played on Big Brother? Do you
think they were just haters? Like, tell us what are
your real thoughts about that? Girl? This is the story
of my life. Bitch has been mad at me on
yepp girl, it's just been coming from me my whole life.
(08:06):
You know, if if other people like you, if you're magnetic,
if you've got a great personality, if you're good at something,
if you're a winner, if you're a star, if you're pretty,
if you're attracted, if men like you, if women like you,
if you get money, if you drive a nice car,
all of those things are me and so it just
makes it just makes other people intimidated. It pisses them off.
(08:27):
I'm not out here flaunting my female assets, but you
best believe I'm gonna use what I got to get
what I want. So with that, were you were you
using because cache I believe was one who said you
were using quote you're feminine assets to play the game.
Do you feel there was an element like were you
trying to play the game in that moment or were
(08:47):
you really flirting like real talk? No, you know what,
I am just a fun person. We're in we're in
the compound with nothing to do. It's men, it's women.
And that's it. So you are going to y'all we
put it, bring a dog in there, and I'm gonna
play with it. So not a dog tip. Yeah, okay, okay,
(09:11):
but we're we're having fun. It's casual. Also, I've met
Sinko before we went into the house. That's my friend.
We have a good time. We just having we're just
having fun. And if that gets up under your skin, girl,
I'm gonna need you to get some thicker scan. How
much fun have you guys had tif You said you
guys were friends and you're just having a good time.
(09:33):
How good of a time have you two had on
or off the show? Just wondering. Yeah, no, let's wake
it up because that man it's fine and we want
it now. Yeah okay, So so Sinko is fine. Don't
get me wrong. But Sinko is my friend and we
have not crossed any lines. Um now, I WoT you
consider swap at DNA because I want to clear that up. Yeah,
(09:55):
I want. I'll break it down for us, Miss Mitchell. Yes,
I don't know. A lady never kisses in towels, so
you know it's the same space. That's different thing because
they haven't been on our podcast. They can tell when
they come on our podcast, they do in detail. So
it sounds like, if I'm correct, you guys have swapped
(10:15):
some DNA via a kiss. Is that correct? I don't
know if he is male or female, and he don't
know if I am neither. We didn't talk about the Netherlands.
We're talking about up So what she's saying, she's not
saying no though to the kiss. So it sounds like
they've made out. We're just gonna go ahead. Now, did
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you do it in the challenge house or did you
only make out before after the show? Huh Um, it
wasn't caught on camera. Oh like a true bro. Well
there we go, girl, Well there it goes. I want
to tap onto something because you had mentioned earlier about
how sometimes, you know, when you're a starring people see
that they have a tendency to hate. My grandma used
(10:58):
to tell me long time I'm go that sometimes people
will see the light that shines within you and it
offends the demons that are in them. Okay, so don't
take that personal. Just know that there is a light
that shines within you, and you continue to shine that
light and don't let anybody dem it for any reasons.
You continue to be Tiffany because Tiffany is who she is,
period the end. Okay, now I do want to get
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into this though, because you we've all at Oz's event.
We hung out with Shann like she was in our pictures.
We was all together, we was hanging out. So how
did it feel for you to see Shan say she
didn't trust you and she was telling your business about
number five? Mister Sinko, what happened? Oh my god? Honestly,
we can call this thing a game, we can call
(11:44):
these shows games, but we are actually our real selves
and this is real. This is real shit, This is
real life because outside of that game, we talk, we
communicate outside of that game. I have friends, family, or
recordation outside of that game. I have a son who watches.
So you know, when you're supposed to be my so
(12:06):
called friend me, I mean a friend to me, You're
not supposed to throw my shit out there for everybody else.
So as a I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm
an older woman. I don't do that. I got people
who I was friends with and I know all of
their business and we don't talk anymore, and I don't
(12:28):
talk about their business. I do understand that this is
a game, but that was shady, Shan, that ship was shady.
Did you hear that that had been going on like
after the fact or was did you not realize she
was saying all that until watching the episode. Shan tried
to call me and clear it up. She was like,
oh my god, Tip, Oh my god, I am so
sorry because listen, Alyssa and Dax just told me not
(12:51):
to trust you, and they told me that you were
coming from me and I didn't know, and I just
was really believing him, and they really got in my head.
And then somebody was saying stuff about you, like you
had been with these guys and like you have you
Like Cyril was trying to ask me questions about you,
and I was like, I'm not getting into that. I'm
not telling to Spensness like you're gonna have to ask Tip.
But they were trying to get me to tell them,
and I wouldn't tell them anything. Girl that we saw
(13:13):
that's not what happened at all. And did any of
them trying to approach you in the house because we
saw you talk to Tyson right, uh? And I know
that you know they can't show every so much is
going on in that house that as a viewer we
don't get to see everything. We just don't. They can't
do that. But we saw you talk to Tyson and
he was like, you know, who do you think I
should pick for elimination? Did you um plead your case
(13:35):
with anyone else? And did any of the women who
were kind of hating on you approach you in the
house during that time. That's what I want to know.
I already knew that the women, especially the Love Island women,
I knew that they were they had no words for me.
They weren't they would be cordial, but I knew I
didn't have them, and I did not feel at that
(13:56):
time that there was anything that I could do to
get them. Looking back, I should I should have pleaded
my case a little more with Justine, But it was
almost like when Justine and Tyson one. Justine really was
not a person that had a lot of words for
me in the house, and I felt that if I
(14:17):
was on her radar, I was just going to be
on her radar. Whereas I know better than that, Like
I should have went and seeing what I could offer
her and what kind of deals I could make with
her for her to work with me, But in that moment,
I just felt that they were all close connected they
wanted be gone. I felt like she was doing cash.
(14:38):
It's dirty work, and I didn't feel like I had
a chance. So that was kind of where I felt
with that I talked with Tyson. I felt like Tyson
and I were good. And it's interesting to see Xavier, girl,
you know, it's interesting to see him sa up there
(15:02):
half Tyson's back with I would do damage control for you.
When Tyson said Xavier and Ozza, the first thing I
said was, I think it should be Enzo and Alyssa.
I really pulled him away from asa An Xavier, and
here Xavier is pushing me right into his hands. Thanks
(15:23):
brou Did he know that? Did Xavier know that you
played a huge role in help saving him elimination before him?
I did not go to x and tell him that
I had a conversation with him about with Tyson about him,
because I already knew that he was having conversations with
Tyson himself. And then sometimes you'll say something and somebody like,
(15:45):
oh I told them this, and then their brains will
just overthink and wonder what did you actually say? Did
it really help me? Are you lying to me about it? So?
I was like, after the situation passes, then you know
me and me and X will talk about it. But
hopefully I'm sitting here hoping he doesn't go in, hoping
that my conversation was effective. It was effective already. So
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here's my question for you. Because when you did go
to Tyson and you were telling him, you know, you
threw it on Enzo and Alyssa. Now people had already
pegged you as she's the glue, she's the one that
holds big brother together, so on and so forth. They
were intimidated by that. So by you basically shifting him
from Aza and Xavier, do you think you showed your hand?
(16:27):
Do you think that was wise? Because people fear numbers,
So do you think you pretty much showed your hand?
I wondered that too, And I honestly didn't shift him
from X as being I didn't want X to go in.
What Tyson had asked me was who does he think
that he could put in that if they made it
out of elimination, would not be able to target him
(16:50):
or wouldn't have a vindictive attitude towards targeting, and I said,
your best scenario for that is probably Enzo on Alyssa,
because Enzo may not make it out of elimination, but
even if he comes in, I don't know how much
sway he has to target you, whereas X. I could
see X going into elimination, coming back from elimination and
(17:14):
definitely actively targeting you. So I painted into Tyson as
I'm trying to help you make a decision for what's
best for you, not what was best for me. Right,
So you said when you got Cashell, when the algorithm
picked him as your partner, Right, you said, I feel
double safe because I Love Island has my back or
(17:35):
I'm with Love Island. However, you're pleading your case to Tyson.
The girls you said out your you said yourself that
they you really didn't have them. You definitely said you
didn't have Justine. So where did you feel protective? Where
did the confidence come from? Was that just sicco Did
you think he had pull like that? It wasn't necessarily
that I had Loved Island. I was paired with Cashell,
(17:56):
who was Love Island, and I thought that Cashell may
have been protected by Love Island, not by proxy? Yeah,
by proxy? I felt that I was protected, like I'm
protected by Big Brother. I should be cassuals protected by
Love Island. We shouldn't be an option here. But Love
Island had no loyalty right right, because we didn't looked
(18:17):
like she took Pride girl. She was happy, was very
very very happy. Did any so something we don't see
on the show? And I'm so curious about this. It's
like the final walk off, right, Like, was there anyone
who said goodbye to you as you walked away from
that elimination in that moment that now watching the episode
(18:37):
back and seeing a lot of the conversations that were
being had behind your back, was there anyone that said
bye to you? That shocked you? Right? Spill it? I didn't.
I didn't hear anyone say anything to me, with the
exception of Aza and Kylind both said bye to love you,
(18:58):
and it took me a second to figure out if
I actually wanted to respond back. And definitely not anything
to do with Osa because I love her a thousand percent.
I don't even care if she had anything to do
with me going to elimination because she would have told
me front off the gree and to my face, like girl,
I had to say your name because that's how she is,
(19:18):
but it wasn't her. And I did hear. I just
really Azi and Kai and you saw and I saw
everyone cheering for um James and Kayla. I heard that
while I was in elimination. And it does get to
you mentally, like you all of those things are going
through your head. You got the pressure of trying to
(19:39):
win the elimination. You you're not as a person who
is being thrown in. You're not even prepared for elimination.
I'm James and Kayla are excited. They've had all this time.
They knew that they were going so mentally they're ready
for it. They don't they don't have anything to lose.
So me being thrown in and then hearing everybody cheer me,
(19:59):
knowing that the only way I could have been thrown
into elimination was Babe had to be okay with me
going in, and the fact that no one told me,
and except Oza on the Azza did tell me that
she heard my name, and Kylan did tell me that
he heard my name. With the exception of those two,
(20:20):
no one even mentioned to me anything. And Alyssas of
Fake No one said, no one said a thing, So
I knew that Babe had turned on me. So I
was like, fuck all of y'all. Yeah, did you think
that you because James says in the beginning, you know
that you are the glue that holds Big brother together.
(20:40):
So going into the house, or at least going into
this episode, is that what you were feeling? Like? Were
you feeling fairly confident that you were kind of a
center force for them? Were you already on the outs?
Like what was your vibe? You know, hindsight twenty of course,
but like in that moment before we got to elimination,
before we even got to the challenge of the day,
where you feeling like, yeah, you know, I'm cool everybody,
(21:01):
I'm Big Brothers looking to me like, you know, I'm
really protected when it comes to them. Yeah, I hope
I was the glue, and I hope that if my
leave and make them all go home, except but if
they then what Jane said is true. So, um, well,
(21:22):
I did not necessarily feel that I was the glue
that was holding BB twenty three together. Um. I didn't
want um everyone to to think about the cook out.
I didn't want them to think that a tip was
(21:44):
around here masterminding something. Honestly, I'm not even trying to mastermind.
I'll just be thinking, Ship, you might come up with something.
I just be thinking I need that to be your tagline.
Like I just be thinking. I'm out up here, like, oh,
let me create. That's not That's not how I wake up,
but I do wake up recognizing acknowledging a problem and
(22:06):
trying to create a solution. Come on. So, um, when
James was like, She's the glue, I think that was game,
which was a good good seed to plant. But we'll
find out if I was the glue. If they trinkle
up out of that house right after meeting, we know
it's true. Girl. So here's the thing. When it comes
to Big Brother, we already know that pregaming happens. Okay,
(22:30):
that's just one of the facts about BB. Pregaming happens.
And so did you talk to anyone from Big Brother
before you came on the show? Talked to everybody? Um,
talk to talk to Kai. Okay. So initially what I
thought going in, I thought it was definitely gonna be
BB twenty three was going to stick together, which was
(22:50):
Kai X and I know how long those two were
going to stick together, but I think we all had
a mutual understanding that me Kai X as a dear Alyssa.
I think that was it from our season. Then we
had David Angela and so were We all were like,
we're definitely not going to target each other, but we
felt that BB twenty three would definitely be a target.
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I am probably the most problematic out of BB twenty three,
meaning like, I'm going to say what I want to say,
I'm going to do what I want to do. They're
not going to control me. And I know that they
were okay with cutting me in BB twenty three because
of liability or the lack of ability to control me.
You better find my mama. And so me being on
(23:34):
the challenge, I did feel that I could be someone
that they would be okay with going home because they
were okay with it before. Yeah, we saw that, we
saw it girl. Okay, So let's let's let's get back
into this elimination, Okay, or let's jump into this elimination. So,
first of all, this is a mix of both memory
(23:55):
and endurance, right, and on top of that, you've just
been blindsighting Okay, So what were you pulling from to
try to win this elimination? Like what was going on
in your head? It was a lot. It's the pressure.
I also, as crazy as this sounds like, um, I
don't like when like all lies are on me, that
is lies. It was. It was like, you know, if
(24:25):
it's something I'm great at, yah, watch me, but something
I have no idea how I'm going to do. I'm
not a memory comed beast. Like memory is definitely not
my strong suit. But I also know my legs are
probably the weakest things on me. So when I saw
those bikes and then I heard my name, I said,
(24:45):
a girl, you should have prepared better. Which was the
hardest part because if you're saying both of those you
don't feel are your strong suits, like which element? Like
if you could have done it where it was one
person on the team did one part of it right
like and then one person did the other part. Which
option would would you have taken your chances at the
memory piece or would you taking your chance at the bike?
(25:06):
I told myself when I got up there and I
started paddling, well, to answer your question, I knew that
I was going to have to focus on the memory
part of it, because I knew the strength of my legs.
I know my home strength. I said, well, Tiff, you're
definitely going to have to kill the memory portion of this.
And if I could have had a choice of who
was going to do what, Cash Cashell's legs never slowed
(25:28):
down from the beginning to the end. And let me
tell y'all about those bikes we got up there. This
is not Big Brother. You can take Big Brother and
hauled it up on a plaque because that is a
life of luxury. Please let them know, Please let them
know we've been trying to us. Can I just say,
because I feel like these old school challenge we have
been trying to say that to people forever when they're like, oh,
(25:49):
it's the same thing. No, no, it is not. TJ
does not care. And another thing, I sprained my ankle
in the challenge, so I'm icing my ankle And let
me just advise anyone in your future, don't ever show
that you're injured. You better walk on that broke foot.
I don't care. So my ankle was screwed up, my
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legs are getting weak. That's why you see me pushing
on with my arms. I'm using my arms to push
my legs. But Cashell, I do have to say this.
Casha was an amazing partner from the beginning to the end.
When we had to compete in the daily challenge, I said, Cashel,
I'm not the strongest swimmer. I'm terrified if heist. He said,
I can swim. I'm cool with heights. I will get
(26:29):
up there, I will jump, I will get the letters.
We had a whole plan. We stuck to it. We
did what we said. I said, I'm great with words.
I will get up here and create as many words
if you can swim. We did what we needed to do.
When we got into the into elimination, Cashell was hung
the fuck over, baby. Cashel was messed up from the
night before. And I mean, I don't want to tell Anny,
(26:51):
I don't want to spill the tea, but we were
a target. I had a spring ankle. Cash what was hungover,
and so Casha be. But you know what, that's what
you would think. Cashel came in there. He never stopped peddling.
That man was peddling like his life depended on it.
He was getting rid of that alcohol, for sure. He
was going And I was like I feel so bad
(27:13):
because if it was a compt him, a challenge with
him by himself, if that challenge was just strictly on Cashel,
he would have come out. I would I really held
him back, and I was the cause of us losing
because I didn't have the strength to give it what
we needed. And he still was like, Tip, it's all good.
I love you. I've never even watched the challenge. I said,
I'm so glad, and you know, so that brings us
(27:35):
to a good point too. So we just talked to
Aza and she said, you know, it took her. It
took some convincing to get her to agree to do
the challenge, and she did it take any convincing you
know on your part or was it an immediate like, yes,
let's do this. I'm so glad Devin that you asked
me that question. When we got the opportunity and the offer,
(27:57):
the invite to do the challenge usay, I said to myself,
I said, Tiff, do it's just what you want to do?
You know what it requires? Or do you want to
find something else? Just said, you know what, let me
just take a chance and do it. I'm forty one
years old, I'm not looking to get out here, breakbones.
I don't have anything to prove to anybody. I'm just
living my life the best as I can. But I said,
(28:18):
you know what, I am going to do it. I
talked to every single one of them. A. Lissa, No,
I'm not doing it, Derrick X, I'm not doing it.
X No, I'm not doing it. Aza, I'm not doing it. Kylan.
I know now if I want to do it, because
I want to see if I'm still going to be
eligible for the MTV Challenge. Nobody wanted to do it.
(28:41):
All wants to be fair. Aza did say she made
up her mind seven days before her multiple phone calls.
I wanted to put a disclaimer. When I'm talking shit
about anybody in BB twenty three. I'm talking about everybody
except Oza in Chada because that's my baby too. But
everybody that was there, yes, I'm listen. We know Aza
(29:03):
didn't want to do it. She was very clear on that.
But because she's not, that's not what she's looking to do.
But these other people who showed up and act like, oh,
we really wanted to do this, they all said no.
I said, I think I'm going to do it. And
then I said, you know what, I'm going to do it.
Then Kai says I'm going to do it too. Then
(29:23):
next thing, you know, X wants to know if I'm
really going to do it, he might do it. Alyssa
is going are you going to do it? If you
do so, then next thing I know, I said, yes,
Now everybody wants to do it. We all come from
yeah usually at least in the beginning. So like, you
guys are all new this season, right on the Challenge USA.
It's never been done before. But you guys are coming
(29:44):
into the show with an advantage because each of you
are coming in with people from a respective show, you know,
like that you kind of know or have a relationship with.
Are you excited now that you're gone? Are you excited
to see the algorithm create havoc among the different Big
Brother Ali sciences? Like are you are you sitting back
a little bit? Are you giving the same evil snicker
that Justine gave when you left the house at the
(30:07):
fact that this algorithm is going to destroy whatever alliances
they think that they have in this game. I mean
the fact that Big Brother did not have my back
at all. I think that that was a mistake on
their part. They should have we should have had each
other's backs. Now I'm not saying I'm any different because
I was saying Alyssa an Enzo, but I don't really
(30:30):
care about Alyssa like that. Enzo's cool, but Alyssa, I
don't trust her. She's a snake, MBB. She's a snake
on the challenge, She's a snake in real life. So
I didn't care if she went home. But at the
same time, I would have wanted us to all stick together.
If it comes down to where we have to choose,
(30:52):
then you know, we have to choose. They chose to
get rid of me, So whatever happens to them on
their way out the door, yeah, the Justin snicker? To them,
who the Justine snicker? I feel like we need to
coin that. Is there anything you would change about how
you played this season? Tip or would you do it
exactly the same? No? You know what this is. This
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was totally different. I was you know, I have only
been off of BB probably like six months or so.
However it's not it was definitely not a year. And
so I'm still like, um, that's still mentally I'm rapped.
I'm trying to still process that you're still kind of
in the game, because anybody I talked to from BB,
(31:33):
somehow in the conversation we still end up talking about BB.
So your head is kind of still in the game.
Then I'm I'm I'm I'm in this. This the challenge
where I am not that that tough of a physical competitor,
And so honestly, for the last six months, I didn't
prepare for the challenge like I prepare for Big Brother.
(31:54):
I was a die hard super fan. I felt like
I knew what I needed to do to prepare, and
I was doing that. The challenge. I was already like,
this is intimidating. I'm a little scared. So like getting
in the gym, getting my training, my work out, my diet. Girl,
I've been traveling around the world. I ain't been doing shit.
So to be clear, you don't have to and I
(32:15):
say this, I only say this too for all the
listeners who aspire to be on it. You don't have
to be in the gym all the time, at least
not to make it to a final. A girl, Tiffany,
I'm telling it to your legs. I too, was on
a bike and had to bike twenty five miles in Bukong,
Chile at the base of a snow covered volcano to
(32:36):
make it through TJ's final. And I did it. I
about died, but I did it, made it to two
finals and didn't ever hit the gym or whatever. And
so certainly I didn't win those finals because I didn't
hit the gym. But I made it to him without
ever hitting the gym. So so I say that because
I feel like we're hearing a theme between Aza, who
I already love, and you, Tiff, which is and I don't.
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I'm curious if this is like a woman thing. I'm
curious if this is a big brother thing. I think
day we should keep tallies on this throughout the season
see where it goes. But I'm hearing, at least in
both interviews a moment of these badass women doubting themselves
to a degree or saying, oh, why didn't train, or
oh I didn't know this, or oh I saw you
(33:18):
know Tyson, or I saw that. And I'm not just
saying you tip like I said, I'm kind of pulling
some stuff that as I said also, and it's like no, no, no,
you have all of the tools in you to make
it to the end, not only in this game but
in life. To get it to the end and screw
the rules and what people say is necessary because it's
someone who again still is allergic to the gym, and
(33:39):
who made it to two finals and completed two finals,
like don't give it all up because someone else looks
like they're more physically intimidating or whatever else, Like, if
you want it, you can get it. You got it done.
I understand that, and I do respect that, and I
believe that to be true. I think that if I
had done the challenge first and I'd never like done
(34:00):
or had to prepare for it, I would probably be like, hey,
I gave it my best physical shot. I would have
played a different social game a little bit, because I
think that that was your initial question. I would have
switched up my social game a little bit. But I
think because I know the preparation I did for PEB
and I know the lack of preparation I did for
(34:22):
the challenge, I think that's why I'm like, you know,
you could have been more prepared, especially when you are
a target if you don't think you're going to be
a target, which I don't know who's not. But if
you don't, if you think that people won't look to
come for you, and you can skate by not necessarily skate,
but you can get through the challenge without having to
(34:44):
go into an elimination, then maybe maybe you're fine. But
I knew coming in that, regardless of my size, that
I was want to be a threat and they would
look to target me. Right, So it sounds like you're
a little disappointed in yourself or just like the preparation Yeah,
the preparation piece, for sure, because and not that it
(35:05):
would have made a difference, but I could say to myself,
you know, you did the best that you could to
prepare for this, but I know I didn't. Yeah, Right,
So you know I'm heavy in these Twitter streets, right,
I'm heavy, and I live on Twitter Boulevard. Right. And
so during your season, a lot of people were saying
(35:25):
that you ultimately were responsible for X's win. Basically you
were the sacrificial limb that season. Right. So do you
think after, especially especially after what you just watched, do
you think it was a situation where it was like, Okay,
now let me show that I don't need her. Now
here's the thing, this is what I have been told
by Xavier himself that Alyssa was initially the person a
(35:51):
listen is always the person to go in. That was
who Tyson was going and then Alyssa got one of
the fact that it could have been me or it
could have been her. She was very upset with Xavier
for not making sure that it was me and for
not ensuring that it wouldn't be her. That's when she
poured the faith tears and got his emotions all wrapped up.
(36:15):
He took his ball head ass over there to Tyson
to tell Tyson that he would rather not lose Alyssa
and he would be okay with losing me. So Xavier
threw me under the bus, and that is what caused
Tyson to change his mind, especially when he was getting
like and okay from whoever else he was getting it
(36:36):
okay from. But x really sealed the deal with that.
And I just feel like, damn x Exotic King, you
ain't never got my back, never and I've never said
I've never said anything against him. I have been in
X is my friend. He is still my friend. I
(36:57):
actually talked to x If I don't talk to him
every day, we talk every other day. Me and X
talk a lot, but and it's just like for me.
I watched seasons of the Challenge. I see I see
west Half who whatever female friend he has, like he'll
have her back. I've seen Jordan have girls back. I
see guys go in and have and and have a
(37:20):
girl partner, like I got your back. I make sure
you're good. I was in that house and I told Aza,
I said, I've never felt so alone. Now. I could
have partnered with Sinko and he would have been fine
with that. Like I could have been like, okay, this
is gonna I'm Sinko will have my back. But I
could see Casshe painting this picture around me and Sinko
(37:42):
and her emotions and pulling out the water works and
getting everyone emotionally uncomfortable with however close or cool me
and Sinko were or how close they were not. And
I was like, you know what, I don't want this
Sinko Cashe problem. I going to distance myself from this completely.
I had nobody in there like to protect me, no one. Honestly,
(38:09):
they can put Big D on a challenge and put
them with me, because he is the only man that
I have outside who would go in a game with
me and have my back, and I would trust it.
The other men none of them none. Wow. And that's
so crazy to hear you say, because in the first
episode you made you made it known to the audience
(38:30):
that you and Kylin have a special bond and that
you were going to protect each other. Who made it clear?
You did? You said so, but you didn't say Kaylan
made it clear? Oh Kyle? And yeah, I ask you
what you're saying. Yeah, I need one of them to
make it clear. Yeah, you ain't heard one of them.
I got Tiff back. I ain't gonna let her go in,
but X definitely said I ain't gonna let her list
(38:51):
to go in and say, you know what. You know
he had this thing with her during your season, right,
he had this whatever he had going on, this crushing
them with her, and then she had to be sacrificed.
So do you feel like he was on some I
owe her this? Yeah? Wow? And Tip, now that you've
been sent home, who do you want to win it all?
(39:13):
Not just as funny, I really I really like Tyson.
I like Tyson Tyson, and I will cheer for him.
He's got a great personality. I love the way he
plays the game. He's very chill, he's laid back, he
does not care at all. I like Tyson. He's a
great competitor, He's a really good athlete. I just I
(39:35):
do like the way he plays. And that's just I've
never met him. I didn't even know who he was
before going in. That's just being in the house with him,
watching him compete, watching him socialize. I like Tyson as
a person, and so watching him, I would like to
see him go far on a personal level, like who
(39:57):
I'm sharing for who. I like to see stay. Because
their first that first elimination had me in tears as
a really shocked the life out of me seeing her
strength and her persevere in just you know, be determined
to give it her all. I would love to see
her go very far, like she could win. I'm like,
(40:19):
you deserve it, that's my girl. I love man. She
fought her butt off. I was so proud of her.
Oh my gosh, she fought her butt off and a
rope challenge at elimination at that like the sand Man.
She said, she said, we did it. I said, hugged
me from a distance, girl, I'm not from a distance.
(40:42):
I love so good. All right, So tip, we have
now reached one of our favorite portions of the show.
We like to call it pick your poison. So we
have three questions for you, one question from me, one
question from Davon, and one question that we came up
with together. Now they range from boring like what's your
favorite color? To extra juicy, but we ain't gonna tell
(41:04):
you which one is which. So whose question do you want?
Do you want my question? Do you want Davon's question
or do you want the combination question? Davon question coming
last is gone? Oh, come on, Davin, what's your question?
All right? So you and Cashua look pretty cozy when
(41:27):
you guys got eliminated. You know, I think he had
his arm around your shoulder. And I know going through
such a strong experience like an elimination together can really
bring a couple close together. I also know that when
you get eliminated, you typically get put in hotel rooms
before you know, you kind of get shipped back off
to America, and sometimes things can happen. I mean, you
said he was hungover going into the elimination. Did anything
(41:48):
happen in the hotel room with you and Cashua at
any point? As you guys were journeying back to the USA.
Was there a kiss, Was there a handhold? Was there
a snuggle? Just to snuggle? An innocent snuggle? Did you
inspect other parts? You know what what happened between you
and Kashall, don't worry. We won't tell anybody except for
(42:09):
the listeners of this. You know, me and Cashell did
share an experience together, being eliminated together. And when we
got back to the hotel UM and I finally got
my phone, I said, you know what, they gave me
my phone and they did not give me a charger
and Cashell said, you can use mine, and that's as
(42:31):
close as we got. Did he charge you up? And
charge you up? Said no, no, no, no, Casha. Casha
was a total gentleman. Um. I don't know what happened
with him and Kia. He seemed sweet from the time
I met him to the time we left Argentina. He
(42:53):
never did anything inappropriate, never came at me wrong. We
didn't have any kind of intimate connection. We just had
a bond where we got partnered together. We had to
work together, and unfortunately we got eliminated, and I personally
felt really bad because I just felt that he deserved
to still be there based on the efforts that he
(43:15):
put put in to to try to get us through
that elimination. But no nothing between Cashle and I. I
know they think I got these men wrapped around my thing.
I know, girl. They said that basically, you walk into
a room and they dropped like flies. So I was
just trying to understand, you know, what is the tippany way, Um,
They've start worried about me. They hope they get to
(43:37):
be my age and still do what I do. Oh oh,
feel like that's a mine drop. I don't feel like
it's not really much to say after that, Between that
and tippany saying, I just be thinking until like those
are the two come today's episode? Yes? Yes? And can
(43:58):
I just throw one more thing? Look, anytime you said
you were what forty one or something like that, girl,
something unbelievable crossing over to the next number. But really,
in my mind though I'm no older than thirty. Girl,
here's my point. When you someone you were forty one,
and I saw you were doing some of those interviews,
no makeup on that When you have twenty something year
olds shook like that, I'm telling when you girl. I
(44:20):
mean seriously, though, seriously, tif you need to give yourself
all the paths on the back because we have them
shaking like that. Now, I don't know why he needed
to carry you to the bunk bed. I will put
that upcause other than that ankle. Oh, now it makes sense.
It was not like, oh, think I'll carry me, girl.
I don't care nothing about that. And glad you cleared up.
(44:41):
He had to ask me twice. We were chatting. We
were getting ready to go back to the room. You
know how stuff is spread. Those rooms are far apart.
I said, let's go. He was like, you're gonna be
able to walk? I said, I can walk. He said, well,
I can carry you. I said, no, you can't carry man.
He said, I can carry you. Don't even worry about it.
I said, okay, don't keep telling, right, I said, shoot,
And by the time I gotta up in them arms,
(45:02):
I said, he can carry me everywhere, right right right.
I'm glad that up because that makes that makes sense.
That means they were extra hatering. Then if you sprain
your ankle, they were like, that was like double the
hater age. It's funny because never in my young twenty
five year old days that I ever think I wouldn't
be my age and have some twenty year old should
but keep shaking baby like a leak on tree. Well,
(45:25):
thank you so much. This. We hope to see you
on another challenge again. We hope this isn't uh the end. Um,
I've been working out every day. I'm boing, I'm taking
my trainer back. Come on, I said, you're gonna get
these legs to look like Disney. Practice those memory games though,
girl too practice those memory games. Don't get that part. Oh,
(45:46):
I got the little brain app thing on and get
on that bike. Look so sink also, I said, sinko,
I've been working out, he said, but have you been cycling?
We're not friends? Nomall I love that and curm number five.
Thank you so much, Tiffany for being here and being
(46:07):
open with us and sharing. Um, you know this is
my first time meeting you. I know you and Day
go way back, and yeah, we just love having a
flats on a Cadillac. Thanks for having me, ladies. You
guys are so fun. It was a great time for me.
I hope to see you doing this for a long time.
Thanks for inviting me. Thank you yes, you are so
(46:30):
proud of you and like I said, regardless, you know
you're a champ in my book, I don't care across
the board. Same. That was so fun and I feel
like a real mic drop moment. Loved having Tiffany here,
(46:53):
so good, such a fun episode with you. Day let
no girl. Where can they find you on social? Yeah?
If you can find me on Instagram at Davon Diane Underscore,
Twitter of course, at Day Davon Underscore, YouTube Davon Diane
and then say tak at Day Diane Underscore. What about
your dev Well, you know, by the way, I just
have to say Davon. She is the mayor and the
(47:17):
duchess of Twitter, so especially hit her up on Twitter.
Me I'm probably busier on Instagram. It's where you can
see sneak peaks and behind the scenes on my ig story.
So you can find me at Devin Simone on Instagram.
That's Devin with a wy Samo with an ie. You
can also find me at Devin Simone on Twitter. You
can also find me Devin Underscore Simone on TikTok. Had
(47:37):
to change the name because TikTok shut me down because
their haters don't know why. I don't even post there,
but either way, find us, follow us, we'll message you back.
We're pretty active there. And if you have a question
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