August 10, 2021 • 46 mins
Wild ‘N Out Girls Bre and Krystal join hosts B. Simone and Pretty Vee to kick off the Women of Wild ‘N Out podcast. Mr. Wild 'N Out Nick Cannon comes through to get personal, sharing how he manages all his business ventures, kids....and beautiful baby mommas. He gives the never-before-heard secrets on how the show was born, the history of the Wild ‘N Out girls, and how they are so much more than what people see on the screen. The women and Nick get deep on cancel culture and how it was the basis for a new game, “Can I Cancel?”
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the women while in our podcast, you guys
the girl anybody's your girl? Go pretty? Welcome to the
Women Whiling Out podcast. These guys are the ladies and
wild and out control them. Were bet to get your show.
Hello ladies, tonight we're gonna have the women a while
(00:23):
in podcasts on the car West Up West, Up West.
Welcome to Women of Wilding Out of podcast. The ladies
are wounding out control the mic, and we control a
lot of other things. But we're gonna get into that
right now. This is our world from our perspective. We
got my co host to my left and the two
beautiful ladies to my right. Guys, introduce yourself. I am
(00:47):
be someone before we get into that. Entrepreneur they called
me a more time in there today on stage. You know, um,
some of that money came from him. Um, you know
CEO will be someone, beauty. You know, I'm always screaming
for a boyfriend. I ain't screaming at no more. You know,
we're getting into that later. So I'm gonna let you
(01:08):
introduce yourself, pretty V. You are know what's having is you? Girl?
Pretty c V? Entrepreneur Guys bearing I mean comedian actress.
I shot my first movie, you guys, blah blah blah.
I'm gonna get into that. You shot your first movie.
I'm not now, So how clod are we? How close?
(01:31):
You know I'm gonna throw that litt actress in there?
You already know what somebody's comedian entrepreneur. I mean, like
I said, hearing and these two beautiful ladies to my right,
introduce yourself, Brie and Ashley. Don't know who's who? Crystal
Crystal Crystal. See, look y'all were just these are while
and now girls. We try to get along real close
with them. It's a um eleven forty seven ps. We
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just shot. We just shot three three episodes while how
y'all are still going? I'm bree you guys. Entrepreneur as well.
I love that about everybody's sitting here right now. I'm
in real estate and happy to be here with you.
I need to talk to you invest me. I got you,
um Crystal from Jamaica entrepreneur as well on a fruit company,
(02:16):
Fruit ten Roads. You know, yeah, no, I know. You know.
So I'm the co owner of Fruit and Roads. Oh
I didn't know doing everything in the warehouse. Um, but yeah,
but that's the fruit. Yes, I'm natural everything, you know.
(02:39):
I just try to keep it real from your body
to your hair. Yeah, you know we're we've know well braids,
but straight I've never I mean, okay, you know where
we what we do. But so okay, lets your hair up.
(03:00):
Let me see. Do you know how No I used
to say that I do. Okay, we're nice to meet you. Guys. Welcome,
Oh my god, women in business, women, entrepreneurs, comedian, actresses,
whatever your heart desires. I just asked that God to
give it to you. Guys. Welcome and welcome and welcome.
(03:22):
First episode of this plenty of more manifest the life
you want and whatever your heart desires. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, but you know what, y'all. Let me tell
you it's always worked it. We shot three episodes today
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out the more days the more exactly ten episodes today,
so we're here for two days the whole season. I
feel like there was when I met today. Okay, we
got we gotta get into this. It's coming. But real
quick before Nick come out, let me let me tell
y'all something about pretty. She don't play about her skin.
There's like you real health. She drink a lot of water.
She's alcoholis. You don't play by her skin, she don't
(04:02):
play about her hair, her makeup. I can go out
and look like a fool and it's like I'd rather
get a little bit of sleep then do my makeup me.
It's like this was this was, this is my thing
today before we bring a Nick out right, I said,
I was like, you have to play the part like
we're on a TV show, like we've you've been doing
you this like your seventh or eighth season? Is it
like what season? You're going a little high? You see,
(04:28):
because this is my six, it's this is my six.
This is your seventh. Wow. Okay, okay, So I wanted
all the episodes that I've shot and you've shot. We
looked bomb. We looked bomb. So my thing is, I'm like,
if my makeup is not done right, I'm not gonna
play would be confident, but here things yeah, yeah, I
can go off. I just said, who's in the union
(04:53):
the people's doing Knicks makeup. It was like you want nick, dude,
Look seriously, let's let's let's let's get into it. So okay,
right now, you guys, we need to take a break.
But when we come back when we're sitting down, we
are boss boss. Okay, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nickanny, you are.
(05:31):
We are back with our boss, Nick Cannon. We gotta
bring up and bring him out. He gave us this platform,
made it possible for us to have this podcast, giving
up for the legend. Mr Nick Cannon that the baby
daddy of the decade. Ladies and gentlemen, what are you so? Nick?
(05:52):
You are such a mogul. How do you manage being
a dad working, having so many baby mamas? You know
what feel like time management? I use my all of
my day. I've probably been told that I probably need
to sleep more. Yeah, but uh, I just really I
love being a lie. I'm just really trying to get
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as much out of the day's beautiful grab the earth
by the ankles and shake the paper out. And I think, um,
that's told because me being a Libra as well, like
I can't say still like now, I think there's a
thing that would be Libra. We are. We have to
like keep going like something we have to enjoy, like
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Nick said, we have to be alive, like something is
creative thickness in our minds that we have to like
see it come to pass, like we have to see
things moving and grooving and especially being around family is
a big thing for me. And I'm from Miami, so
I don't have any really anyone but my mom in Atlanta.
So with myself moving around like sitting still, sometimes we
get I think me, I get to thinking like thinking, thinking,
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thinking thing to the point where I'm up like, okay,
I need to so I get him. They see we're
vibing on the same October eight balance balance, you know,
that's why you are mad? Yeah, and muscles and on
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top of that about libras we balanced. We got a
lot of energy. Are we always trying to, you know,
help others? You want to see when that'll tell me
about telling me about Aria. I love aries because you've
been my friends. Yeah, what do you? I'm a cancer
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girl and my concert that is sweet. Don't badow with it.
Don't bow there's doing cancers and there's July cancers. I'm
a July councer. Yestly different emotional girl. And then you
gotta separate the male and the female because you see
like that were laid back more moneymas. My best friends
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are my mama's towards roll or tourists. Yeah, yeah, let's
get into it. So I always wanted to ask this,
I mean, how did you come up with wilding out?
But the story with wilding out honestly started where I
just wanted to give my friends jobs and opportunities. I was,
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you know, I was doing my thing a little bit
kind of start popping off, but I was still doing
stand up still, you know, making music. And I would
literally be in a comedy club one night, a studio
the next night, and like everybody kind of vibe and
they would like, yo, you you're doing movies and stuff.
Man would do something to get us on, and it
was like Kevin Hard Cat Williams doing stand up standing
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outside making fun of each other's mama's and all of that.
And I was like, yo, we should capture this. So
I rented out a comedy club called the Comedy Union
and kind of got everybody together now crisp into right yeah,
right on Pico uh in the hood, and we like
rented it out. I got some cameras. I think it
might have called like the shooting Process. I think ram
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almost like a hundred thousand dollars just like for that
one mona. Then, I mean it was just a lot
to put together, and I was willing and I wasn't
even falling like that, but I was like, I believed
in the vision of that improv and hip hop and
putting it because a hundred thousand dollars back in the forties,
a lot of when he started two thousand four, and
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you know here we are today. So were just really
just friends getting together. And I wanted to give them opportunities,
and that's really funding the vision. And I just wanted example,
people opportunity to try. We grew up watching the show. Yeah,
we grew up. I mean, make me feel even over me. Okay,
(09:58):
when was the last film? Let me say this though,
real rap I gotta say, uh, this bunch of this
group of women that we had together was handpicked for
a very distinct in uh specific reason because like, and
you guys already touched on it in your your introductions.
(10:20):
It's like, you're so much more than what people see
on the screen. Yeah, and I want this to be
opportunity where you guys can express that and talk about
that and even just a little bit. This is the
first episode, uh, and I feel like you're already showing
so many more size if they didn't know about all
your businesses if they didn't know your true personalities and
and and the fact that you guys are just so
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diligent in building who you are and your brands, you know,
everything from you being a real estate mogul, real crazy
billions of dollars like big big body homes today actually millions.
It was literally on set our third like on the
third episode, She's like waiting for this email and yeah, yeah,
(11:05):
so we need to be best Yeah. Get I was
looking at them, Spice, and then even with Crystal having
her own business and like like we'd be having like
bank conversations. She's like, yeah, so I think I want
to choose this bank for the like I've had your
no I know, yeah, I know, ship me boxing, I
(11:28):
make yours basically. Yeah, so I run the entire warehouse.
That's beautiful. So where's the locate Because I'm saying, Miami,
That's what I'm saying talking about. I feel like you're
not only there a lot. So I'm turned to the thirties.
I would be there this Yeah, I'm only there now
every month because my mom preaches in the park, so
(11:49):
I just go out there with her. And that's why
I just so, Hey, maybe we could collect fruit. I'll
bring fruit, you bring reality here. It is want to
like that because people get to see you as either
super over the top, silly or pretty. They don't know
your spiritual side is so like, really what you believe
is gotten you to this point your background and radio,
(12:10):
your education being able to like college and all like
like and then of course be someone we see you.
We I feel like we know you the most for
who you are because you always are just showing ship
but always resilience of like you can't be shook out
here like that's like we've been the conversations. But he
(12:32):
was like, get off my phone. But in that advice
was like, yo, just keep pushing like you're trying. Yeah,
like they're gonna come at me. But the fact that
you they have multimillionaire, like I said earlier, they always
gonna be on your line and wearing it. Well, so
that's why we have this array of fabulous and powerfulness.
All that's what I just I wanted to set that.
(12:56):
Thank you, thank you, So I have another question for
your unique. When we last film the season, the theme
was old school versus New School, um tell us. The
theme of this new season, well, again speaking of resiliency,
and if everybody knows that obviously was tough for everybody,
from you know, the COVID scenario, from us being out
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there protesting, from me getting canceled, from all of those
different things. Like I think we all probably had one
of the toughest years in prior year, about a year
and a half, and then to come out, I feel
like it's a whole new world, you know what I mean?
Like that mindset, I was like, I wanted to show
not only the unity and the love and us coming
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together and what we originally created Wilding Out for is
to give people opportunities and platforms to show who they
really are, but then at the same time to be like, yo,
we can't be stopped. You can't stop us. It's a revolution.
It's gonna be televised. Evolving into the evolution. You feel
like you evolved from last year, like change, Uh, even
though you're older, the better, definitely for the better. I
(14:03):
feel like I probably got a little bit wiser, I
got a little bit more in tune lyne, got my
chakras together because I used to allow things to bother me,
and you know what I used to want to do
and even sitting with y'all. I now choose my words wisely.
Now I don't. I used to want to show people
how smart I was. That was a thing for me.
I was like real insecure that I felt like I
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needed to prove myself in every room because I was
always like, yeah, I was always like the youngest, and
so I wanted to show people I can. Oh, I
could because I could be like Diddy, I could be
like Will Smith, I could be like whatever executive at
the time, I could be this person. And then I've
figured out, like, I ain't you are that? So I'm
(14:45):
kind of ill chill a little bit more. Yeah, And
I actually reached out to you Nick through a d
M and tell you how COVID and I was actually
in my closet she was couldn't sleep for like thirty nights,
like however nights. It was from no November second, the
twenty four is when I left my closet. Wow, And
I said, I got COVID. You and Charlottmagne shout out
(15:06):
of Charlemagne people. Yeah, I literally was like so down on.
I was like, oh my god, this COVID is throwing
me off. But literally it was. It was serious for me,
and you had it before I had it. Yeah, yeah,
and it was the whole house. It was no furniture
in there. It was like maybe like I probably had
my bed and my couch, but like it was just everything. Hello.
So my mom was just like I ain't coming over
(15:27):
there from you. So just your words was just like,
you know, I'm sorry for that, Queen. Yes, stay strong
and just keep going. So yeah, now we're here to
look at us. Never would have made it, never would
(15:50):
without you. Staring back to the show. What point did
you say, Okay needs Walting Out Girls. Oh, that's interesting,
and that that death finely has evolved. I mean, the
world is different because originally my whole focus when we
started with Wilding Out Girls, I was trying to, you know,
emulate the fly Girls from a leven color. And if
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you watch like the first season and even what we
did the wild and Our girls, they a lot of
them were dancers, and originally that's what they were gonna
come out and do and dance within dancers have unions
got a little expensive, and you know, and and it
was it was interesting because before I created Wild and
(16:35):
Out I had a show on Nickelodeon that the Nick
Cannon Show and that original pilot, we had all girl
dancers and they were like hip hop dancers, and so
a few of the girls from my Nickelodeon show actually
became wilding out girls, uh, and that was gonna be
the vibe and then it we was in that early
(16:56):
two thousand hip hop scene and that's that was like
the birth of the video girl. You just yeah, And
I found myself even caught in that situation like, all right,
I want them to be more than just you know,
I can't be. And so we always tried to incorporate
into the wild and out girls into the game and
(17:18):
play and have fun and even start you know at
the time, because that was before social media, so we
were looking for you know, probably at the time the
most popular video video or the most because a lot
of the ones started out as well. Yeah yeah, even
I mean we're going way back and we're talking like
early two thousand. So it's like some of the girls
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that you see, um that were actual dancers, like some
of Missy's dancers who like Brittany I believe her name
is Brittany and she's on one of those Netflix shows. Yeah,
she was on this Control Yeah, she was girl and
like literally the examples like that to where it was
like young women that were doing their thing in the industry,
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but this was an opportunity to let them shine and
be more than just a pretty face. But then because
of the jokes and all that stuff, it kind of
turned into like, yeah, I wanted to switch that up.
So that's why I'm glad we're here. This is the
prime example that yes, I gotta stand while I know. Yeah,
(18:21):
that's actually how I got on the show. Why I'm
not girl all this ship? Really, yes, I do remember
be Simone like I'm gonna be on this damn show.
I was like, hey, you need another comedian and so
and people do this to me all the time. So
I'm like, I'm gonna give you a proof to me
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that you're funny and prove to me that because I'm
not big on talent, because I feel like everybody has
talent all we're all gifted in something. But if you
have that drive, if you can show me that, YO,
so much more than just oh I can do this,
I can do that. And that's what the Simons about. Opportunity. No,
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but we had conversations before. I was like I would
be honest. At first, I wasn't a fan because I
didn't know and that, but everybody was like, yo, no
be smon like it was at least half a dozen
people like no, be Simone is real, Like he knicks
so nice. He was like, yeah, yeah cool. I had
like some crazy stalker comedians like because there's a difference
(19:27):
between drive and then stalker shooting. Yeah, you know, I
have people come full whiling out here like I'm ready,
let like trying to battle you. But you were always
professional and you always believe in yourself. And I was like,
let's get to it and you know, the workshops it
will let you know Jesus like you made it through
(19:53):
that you you're the real deal. And that first really
when doing my pink Robin Bot and all, they sa
you could have a great name. I didn't. They didn't
even call me back girl. We was all together, me
and you just you know, we auditioned together. And then
they cut me the next season. Yeah, they called me
(20:14):
season eleven. See what it wasn't about I was cut.
It was we can we can only have a certain
amount and at the time, because I want to make sure, yo,
we want to get as many women as possible, and
it was one of those things where you I hate
saying this, but there is a you can't have a
(20:34):
lot of the same. So there were people that was
coming for your spot that was and they showing up
took it bad because when I but you kept pushing
like that's the dope thing about like that. Yeah, like
big times they've cut this show, keep pushing and showing
that we're really about this, and even on them, scenarios
(20:56):
can like was wrong, Like some own came and like
really took it to a whole another level. And then
like I've told you this in the past, like yo,
I salute you the fact that one you worked on
your craft like crazy, but then too you went and
built your own brands. I'm gonna do this regardless. Yeah,
you made us pay attention to Yeah, there it is.
She's got to come back. But it's also to its
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certain things that certain people, certain people just jump out
there and they feel like, oh, I know how to
do this right away, and some people it's a it's
a similar to learn. Yeah, now I look at you
all set now like killing it personality jokes. Know, you
wouldn't jump in the wild style, you know what but
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but you know you're you're more confident. Yeah, I think
for me, like I ain't killing, I'm gonna give your hall.
I'm shaking a Millie rock and being a real quick
right now I am on this podcast, I am so fly.
I think it's to my right. That is my guy,
this is you gotta jump, can't. But you know what
it is about Beto because I remember like the same
(22:03):
thing with you, but she would be she was like,
I'm not going to do that. I'm not gonna do
the Wild style. And I'm like, yo, you're hilarious when
you be acting like you bout the record. Just be you.
And now she's not only that she killed, she got
like she got hit records with you and let's go
(22:23):
back here. And I actually added it on my songs
my booty Squeeze, so y'all actually on the ending of
my mute video. We don't do that this season so
many times over, we like literally are making the Wild
and our album, and you know we want so like
even the songs we did today, Oh yeah, he's not
(22:44):
trying to all the good songs, even the baby Mama
song out about that because you got so many But
they also know I just like, I'm gonna see if
I was, I would like next too much. You know,
It's crazy because and this one I've I've had several
(23:04):
conversations with like Mariah because I was like, let's let's
go yeah, and she's one of the biggest stars in
the world and for us to be able to just
be playing with her name for years. She's like, I
should let y'all know how cool she is, because like
she was like, I hear you little jokes and all that,
and I hear what they'd be saying to men like
now because we have ten year olds and maybe so
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like I never thought about that before. I'm like, oh,
I gotta, i gotta chill because even like you know,
people like our friends, even like Shaq came on the show,
but his little joke, it was a little out of pocket, yeah,
saying some stuff. And like for my ten year old
son who loves Shack to Shack says something to his
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dad about it. I really thought about that. It's great
because my children have amazing sense of humors, so even
they get it, they just joke. It's never and even
like the new TikTok generation and all that stuff, they
they're more in tune with humor and joking out, and
I feel like they're a little bit stronger and tougher skin.
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You know what it is that's different. We'll talk about
that because it's like that's a different energy of like
people feel like they have an opinion and everyone has to.
But I'm talking about Generation Z, like the kids, I
feel like they're more understanding. And I feel like there
was a time probably like millennials in that age group
that that were like everybody was so like, we gotta
(24:34):
make change, we gotta with our opinions. And but I
think this younger generation, specifically because of stuff like TikTok,
are like friendlier and more where the generation before that
was a little too serious what they had to be
because we was dealing with stuff like Trayvon Martin. We
was dealing with stuff like Trump and the White House.
(24:55):
We was dealing with some serious stuff. So those those
people were Now I feel like everybody's chilling back to
having fun. You got you all right, next, So what
is the criteria for choosing a while and out girl?
And today you referred to us as god us, we
are retiring the girls, and that again, to me, that's
(25:20):
just me trying to evolve and just empower women. The
reason why we're staying here today because the last thing
I want to do is objectify women. And it's interesting
because we've been through so many different criterias and I'm
glad that I've actually taken myself all the way out
of the process, because I even knew early on season one.
I was like, I shouldn't be the one picking the
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will and out girls because I just felt weird. It
felt even in the casting because we were casting everyone
at the same time from cast a while and out Girl,
and I was like, I kind of let MTV. And
then I actually even put a team together to that women.
Ya figured that, and I will just roll with it.
I can make some suggestions, you know, I always vibe
off an energy and personality. One thing I always said,
(26:04):
they got to be more than just a pretty face.
I want to hear that stories in the fact that
you know even the way you know we've all met,
whether it's through auditions or even knowing each other previously,
and even now you get to know people through social media,
so you're like, oh, wow, that person has their own business.
That person because because and it used to be about
the following too. Like there was a few seasons I
(26:25):
want to say, like season eight, we're like, oh, the
people with the most followers, because then they can, you know,
the show. But then you find out that somebody with
eight million followers may not have a personality, yeah, or
somebody else runs their page. You know, they don't even
understand the hip hop culture. So we we learned our
lesson through that. So now it doesn't matter how many
(26:46):
followers you have, It doesn't matter what you look like.
It really is who you are as a person and
are you a strong term? And I love how diverse
they are. Y'all are so diverse, are so different. We
try to give everyone an opportunity. I mean, there's there's
some amazing things where you know, we we've had so
many just outstanding people from all over the world, from Africaven,
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you know, just just different looking women, short, tall, why, slim,
whatever it is. And uh, I'm hoping that you know
the legacy of the women of Wilding Out and now
the Wilding Out Goddesses would have the opportunity to be
because I'm gonna be honest, I've always wanted to have
find my Jennifer Lopez from the fly Girls, like the
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fact that she became one of the biggest stars in
the world and she started off on a living color
as a Fly Girls. I'm looking to find that person.
But I think what's also you unique is the fact that,
you know, even on the cast, we get to have
you know, women like yourselves who come into the game
already funny, already with a brand, already ready to kill it.
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So I think there's a balance we ain't find. We
ain't found j Lo yet, but we do have pretty
B and B simone so uh and not definitely talk
about shaming. I'm a different size every season, badass, big,
and I'm just in the middle, folks. You happy, That's
what I'm happy do have? What's fun with on the
(28:15):
show whom Man we were asking the cash that today,
I mean, obviously kick him out the classroom, that one
that was fun, pick up and kill it. But I
love the rap. Yeah, probably wild style. That's the most
consistent one we've been doing since the beginning. Yeah, very
creative to freestyle. And we just love hit Man and
(28:35):
Nick is the only one that can't prepare and all
it's all we impromise. But you know, somebody, Okay, I'm
coming for you. Say I'm coming for you. Okay, let
me think of something, you know, Nick, if you're coming
for Nick, anybody like Nick, I'm coming for you just
got to be like, yeah, that's that's the thing. I
don't never. I don't have time to prepare, right, So like,
whatever you say, hopefully my response is good. But I'm
(28:57):
thinking about the camera shots. I'm making sure. But yeah,
that's probably the most fun because we've been doing it
the longest. So you don't know what now you anything
in love, anything that had a talk, No, I really do. No, Seriously,
(29:18):
my game kids like I love let me holla. I do.
I love let me holler? And I also love um
you realize now I know gave was mad? I love
let me Okay. So this is the thing. Now, we
had a game that was kind of like let me hollow.
(29:38):
It's called break Up to make Up. And that's the
one where it first hit my spirit different because I
started watching all of these playbacks and these takes and
even seasons where we played this game whereould be an
amazing woman sitting there playing the role of the person
that's about to get broken up, and I started seeing
(29:59):
energy where they were being disrespected. I hate you and
you know this, and I can't say and I'm like, yo,
this this ain't this ain't a good yea, let's stop
playing that game, because you know, they'd be doing stuff
like kicking the chair away like it was violent breakups.
That was funny, but it was still like what it Yeah,
(30:22):
it was kind of weird. And then like I was like,
all right, we're only gonna play that and if it's
a guy right there, and then you know, then we
did that a couple of times and it was pretty funny.
They have some special guests coming in and stuff like that,
and then let me holla, started to come up, you know,
with it even more because I feel like, you know, uh,
the energy got heightened based off of like things like
(30:43):
Time's up and me too, and just so many things
that were going on in the culture. And I'm like, wow,
if I'm really trying to, you know, highlight and empower
women on this show, like I feel like I get
to do it. Why would I switch and put the
wild and out girls to really be objectified. Keep its
(31:04):
beautiful women standing there looking beautiful and men and women
walking up to him. So I'm like, all right, well,
I mean, this is this is what we do. But alright,
there's so many other games that we could play. And
that's where I say, like, I feel like I'm evolving
(31:25):
our last the show we can say and I think
there's a couple of games they're gonna have that same
type of energy, but it's not gonna be like, hey,
can I sleep with you? Right? Yeah? And because we
go there, that's where wilding out is. We we make jokes,
we don't hold back. It's like I said, it's probably
the most progressive show on television because there's no whole bar.
(31:46):
We go. We go all the way in. They don't
matter what your ethnicity is, her gender. We we have
fun with it. But there is a line to where
it's like, again, if my daughter was watching and man,
and she's sitting there and think that, you know, people
called women out their names and tell saying what they
(32:07):
want to do to them. Man, you know you got
to explain that. So he's evolving after his twentieth kid,
I think, I think all the games I still there
yet we are. I think all the games I don't
When you have that good energy, you know, because when
you go out there and do it especially d C.
(32:29):
It's just like, oh, look, okay, if you know you
could do a d he's god. Yeah, he's golden. Yeah,
you know, he's a gym. It's like, you got to
play the game because if you don't, it's like, nah,
you're going home. So that's even a like even when
you talk about like just energy and what like, even
when that whole is your banks think popped off. And
(32:51):
I mean we tried to be as delicate as possible
because I literally was standing there watching her breakdown in person.
They talked to her, Yeah, and it was more of
like and I got love for it, and you know,
the things that she heard, you know what I mean,
because often it's not what you say, but it's what
you hear. And then even and the way she processed it,
(33:11):
she felt like d C was coming for her. Looks
attacking the black women, feel like, oh, that's some stuff
that she probably had. D was just being DC. He
called everybody ugly. Ugly can call out ugly, but we're
(33:32):
joking and playing. But she wasn't playing in that moment.
She heard the word ugly and and she was already
in defense because she probably she was Again, she didn't
guess to come on the show. They're nervous that I
had commended her for even coming in the first place.
And then we're playing the game called so Petty and
then he's something something with your ugly ass, and that's
(33:53):
that triggered her. He wasn't he was being d C.
If you never met DC the then this friendly is
the world always silly? And then god fearing Yeah, okay,
you know what I mean. But it went it went
the wrong way, and I tried to control it, and
I think we did good with it, you know what
(34:13):
I mean, because you know, she handled it a certain
way and I think we reeled it back in. And
so we don't believe in cancel culture on any side. Yeah. So,
speaking of cancel culture, you have a new game called
Can't I Cancel? How did you come up with that?
Because I got tired of everybody canceling ship so many times,
(34:36):
be Simon, and can you know one of the times
I was canceled because of this damn show I was
on with him, Yeah, yeah, five And then he was like,
oh really, she said I don't want to do with
no regular nine to five, And I was like, oh,
what about the checkout guy? At Walmart. All of the
(34:58):
nine to fives came at it. You know what, or
most of the people that follow us and support us
have hard working jobs. And guess when I say this
on my stand up, I say this at the end
of my stand up, Clap. If you are ninety five
and you have your hardworking citizen A hundred most of
the room clap. Clap. If you love your job and
you will be there for the next thirty years, one
(35:20):
percent claps. That's why I'm not dating no man, because
if you have ambition, you have heard, you have something
inside of you, and you have a dream, a million
dollar idea, and you're sitting at a desk, that is
a problem for me. I need a man who was
gonna chase his dream. I need a man who was
gonna take risk, financial risk, mental risk, emotional risk, and
not sit at a job because you're comfortable with a
paycheck every two weeks. I needed to go take some
(35:41):
risk and see if you can go make some more money. Yeah,
it's preference. I still ain't dating nigger. Foot locker question
the foot locker, you bring joy to my life, Hamish,
(36:02):
So could cancel culture be viewed in a positive way?
I think that's what we're trying to do with the
with the game. But also when you think about I
think people there has there's this mentality of you know,
we have to clean things up. Like as a as
a parent, you're think like, okay, there are certain things
I don't want my child to hear. There are certain
perspectives and aspects. And when you were dealing with, you know,
(36:26):
eight years of white supremacy in your face, like Donald
Trump was just saying, wow, you know, someone need there's
a reason why he can't get on Instagram or or
Twitter and none of that more because then you have
capital riots, you know. So there is there's a level
of all right, we do need to make sure there's
(36:46):
some parameters and but so I can see the positive
aspect from that open to grow and learning. It should
be it should be a person or a group that
we all entrust then that say okay, they can set
the rules and regulations. That's why there are ratings on movies.
(37:06):
That's why there are certain things on television standards and practices.
I abide by that, you know, all day long, because
we're all showing up to do a job and we
got to be professional. But when you just let any
old body and it becomes this group think, which is
really dangerous. But one popular person says something and everyone follows.
If the whatever, the first comment is, whatever the caption is,
(37:28):
whatever has the most likes, we're gonna rock with that.
I think it's going away though. I think, you know again,
I think I believe the energy of the world is
in a different place. People are just happy to be
a live people are happy to be outside. People just
want to smile, live and have a good time. And
that's what comedy is all about. We're supposed to make
people feel better and forget about, you know, all of
(37:49):
the woes and tribulations and just you know. Yeah, And
I think it was stillness too. It was a lot
of stillness going on. Yeah, and um um, I think
everybody was at a steel place trying to figure out
who they were internally and healing internally. I mean that's
a journey each day. But I think the energy is
shifting a little bit, and I think people have their
(38:09):
own then they haven't going on. But I think it's
going into a positive way because some people, yeah, like
a healing thing because a lot of I went through
a lot of trauma. They faced those demons a lot
of I was in my closet, not even when I
(38:30):
take I was in my apartment before I bought my home,
and I would texted Charlotte Magne and I was like Shi,
and I said, um, you know, it's I'm just overthinking.
Look at my mom's a pastor. So shekar actually got
to my knees and start praying. But I wanted to,
you know, call on man just for one second, just
to say, you know, showing in my head I'm overthinking that.
I said, you just be still, be just be still.
(38:50):
In that word be still, I'm like, oh my god,
I'm still to be thinking about all these certain things.
I was on the Movies Movies set the other day
trying to say, you're gonna get another still moment. Help
you help, You're gonna be ready when you steal again.
I was like, the devil is lying, gonna be still,
keep moving, But it's a it's a moment where a
moment where to be still. And that's what I've learned
(39:11):
because God was trying to speak to me in my
home to be still, because what I about to get
you when I'm done with you? While you in your
home and you're crying and doing all this, I'm gonna
give you something so big that you don't even know
you're about to get. So he did. He showed me
so many avenues, so many things in my career that
I could do, the creative imaginations in my mind. That's
gonna come to pass in such a good way. So
it's beauty and being still you know, definitely that's a
(39:35):
word right there. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that to figure.
What's your quote? Suff should be ready? Ready? I well,
since I'm the first guest and um uh, truly proud
(39:57):
of what I see here. When it's so much strength,
there's so much power, I feel like the vision has
really come to pass. I'll go to the word for
a second, come the word of virtuous women. Proverbs one.
It says strength and dignity are a woman's clothing, and
(40:20):
she will laugh at what comes in her future. And
when you just said that, that's what I thought about. Yeah,
that's strength and she will laugh at what comes to
in her culture, I mean, in her future. So that's
really saying like she's so proud of what's in front
of her, and beyond that you can laugh and be
(40:41):
jovial and that's what we're all here for. It is
proverb come on Church, but sometimes I don't. I'm like
in the beginning, Jesus wept, Jesus wet, So Nick, you
know this was such a great interview. Conversation came through
(41:06):
and you know, keep doing it. Uh, and we're going
all the way up. I'm again, I'm proud of you,
proud of big deals. Cheers. I'm waiting for my box
to tries. Cheers to the multimillions one time, but the
(41:27):
one time the women a while and out lego, that's question, kids,
do you want how many more? Yes? Honest, I don't
think he's gonna stop. Yeah, first of all, I love
to Africa. Yeah, I'm gonna try the list it comes, Yo.
(41:48):
You're as wealthy as the strength of your tried. If
you can afford it, you can have as many as
because I've seen you know, I'll be seeing what they
say like going viral and stuff like our money ain't
and everything like yo, I literally love all my children
like one like I want to be. I want to
be that old man in the bed with twenty kids
around me and just everybody. Mama's gonna be it's a village.
(42:13):
It's a village. They don't go give me an island
turn up. Just make sure we are a strong WiFi
and we just live off the fruit of the land. Good.
I'm doing right. You heard it here first, you heard
(42:37):
it here first, or whatever. It's not a coult snatching tattoos.
But if I don't know, we gotta let this man
go with the part two because he be hypnotizing these women,
because I don't say he's all right now, I do
(42:59):
understand these even I'm like, what is it? No, Nicholas,
they'd be getting tattoos of his face, and I'm like,
people can stare. We were amazing positive place. Now we could, Karen,
(43:24):
I don't know what wollow but yeah, okay, okay, we'll
talk about the next episode. Yeah about me when I'm
not here. I don't want to say thank you, thank
you so much, thank you, thank you, thank you so
much for your time. Nick will be right back with
(43:45):
more women a while and now right after this. No. Yeah,
but he dropped some gems though, Jim. He think we
are smart. Nick's smart, he's respectful, he's handsome, he's not
that young and more but he but he looks. He
looks good for his age. But he looks good. Black
don't crack black, don't it cracks a little? Wait? Yeah, okay,
(44:12):
what you want to say? A great sweatpants? See. I
have a boyfriend now, y'all. But I guessed my fourth
time saying because I want trying to know get out?
I found what were you happy with your boyfriend? Next episode?
It's so fine, he's chocolated, got pretty teeth, got you
know that bad? I posted his back every time, back
(44:35):
every time she looking at my man, every time she
posts her dudes back like that bag. Girls so muscular
and not like a little grouble on it. I never
had a man in shape. I used to love to
get money. Gut yeah, I see your money. You're stupid.
(44:57):
So I'm singing so I could look and you hain't
sneakle single? You just want single? No, definitely single single?
What about y'all? Single? Single? No? I haven't man over
a year? Girl, me too? When your anniversary mm soon,
(45:19):
I'm expecting something big. So oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he
better come with a little ah, don't get it. They
got to get a text from the beastie. Yeah yeah,
he definitely gonna get a text from you know, the
gang Gang. Okay, make sure. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you
what I want you to tell him about. Yeah, pass it,
(45:41):
pop it okay, yeah, so yeah, you right know what
time and it's just the woman. And remember tell us
up with the wine, all right. Okay, So no, ladies,
a delay, it's never a denial. And whatever you're asking
(46:06):
God for money, continue to trust the process and hustle
at your own pace. And I love y'all and love
you yes. And this is the Women of Wolving Out podcast.
(46:27):
Be sure to follow us whenever you get your podcast
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are Out.
Welcome to the women while in our podcast, you guys
the girl anybody's your girl? Go pretty? Welcome to the
Women Whiling Out podcast. These guys are the ladies and
wild and out control them. Were bet to get your show.
Hello ladies, tonight we're gonna have the women a while
(00:23):
in podcasts on the car West Up West, Up West.
Welcome to Women of Wilding Out of podcast. The ladies
are wounding out control the mic, and we control a
lot of other things. But we're gonna get into that
right now. This is our world from our perspective. We
got my co host to my left and the two
beautiful ladies to my right. Guys, introduce yourself. I am
(00:47):
be someone before we get into that. Entrepreneur they called
me a more time in there today on stage. You know, um,
some of that money came from him. Um, you know
CEO will be someone, beauty. You know, I'm always screaming
for a boyfriend. I ain't screaming at no more. You know,
we're getting into that later. So I'm gonna let you
(01:08):
introduce yourself, pretty V. You are know what's having is you? Girl?
Pretty c V? Entrepreneur Guys bearing I mean comedian actress.
I shot my first movie, you guys, blah blah blah.
I'm gonna get into that. You shot your first movie.
I'm not now, So how clod are we? How close?
(01:31):
You know I'm gonna throw that litt actress in there?
You already know what somebody's comedian entrepreneur. I mean, like
I said, hearing and these two beautiful ladies to my right,
introduce yourself, Brie and Ashley. Don't know who's who? Crystal
Crystal Crystal. See, look y'all were just these are while
and now girls. We try to get along real close
with them. It's a um eleven forty seven ps. We
(01:56):
just shot. We just shot three three episodes while how
y'all are still going? I'm bree you guys. Entrepreneur as well.
I love that about everybody's sitting here right now. I'm
in real estate and happy to be here with you.
I need to talk to you invest me. I got you,
um Crystal from Jamaica entrepreneur as well on a fruit company,
(02:16):
Fruit ten Roads. You know, yeah, no, I know. You know.
So I'm the co owner of Fruit and Roads. Oh
I didn't know doing everything in the warehouse. Um, but yeah,
but that's the fruit. Yes, I'm natural everything, you know.
(02:39):
I just try to keep it real from your body
to your hair. Yeah, you know we're we've know well braids,
but straight I've never I mean, okay, you know where
we what we do. But so okay, lets your hair up.
(03:00):
Let me see. Do you know how No I used
to say that I do. Okay, we're nice to meet you. Guys. Welcome,
Oh my god, women in business, women, entrepreneurs, comedian, actresses,
whatever your heart desires. I just asked that God to
give it to you. Guys. Welcome and welcome and welcome.
(03:22):
First episode of this plenty of more manifest the life
you want and whatever your heart desires. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, but you know what, y'all. Let me tell
you it's always worked it. We shot three episodes today
(03:42):
out the more days the more exactly ten episodes today,
so we're here for two days the whole season. I
feel like there was when I met today. Okay, we
got we gotta get into this. It's coming. But real
quick before Nick come out, let me let me tell
y'all something about pretty. She don't play about her skin.
There's like you real health. She drink a lot of water.
She's alcoholis. You don't play by her skin, she don't
(04:02):
play about her hair, her makeup. I can go out
and look like a fool and it's like I'd rather
get a little bit of sleep then do my makeup me.
It's like this was this was, this is my thing
today before we bring a Nick out right, I said,
I was like, you have to play the part like
we're on a TV show, like we've you've been doing
you this like your seventh or eighth season? Is it
like what season? You're going a little high? You see,
(04:28):
because this is my six, it's this is my six.
This is your seventh. Wow. Okay, okay, So I wanted
all the episodes that I've shot and you've shot. We
looked bomb. We looked bomb. So my thing is, I'm like,
if my makeup is not done right, I'm not gonna
play would be confident, but here things yeah, yeah, I
can go off. I just said, who's in the union
(04:53):
the people's doing Knicks makeup. It was like you want nick, dude,
Look seriously, let's let's let's let's get into it. So okay,
right now, you guys, we need to take a break.
But when we come back when we're sitting down, we
are boss boss. Okay, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nickanny, you are.
(05:31):
We are back with our boss, Nick Cannon. We gotta
bring up and bring him out. He gave us this platform,
made it possible for us to have this podcast, giving
up for the legend. Mr Nick Cannon that the baby
daddy of the decade. Ladies and gentlemen, what are you so? Nick?
(05:52):
You are such a mogul. How do you manage being
a dad working, having so many baby mamas? You know
what feel like time management? I use my all of
my day. I've probably been told that I probably need
to sleep more. Yeah, but uh, I just really I
love being a lie. I'm just really trying to get
(06:13):
as much out of the day's beautiful grab the earth
by the ankles and shake the paper out. And I think, um,
that's told because me being a Libra as well, like
I can't say still like now, I think there's a
thing that would be Libra. We are. We have to
like keep going like something we have to enjoy, like
(06:33):
Nick said, we have to be alive, like something is
creative thickness in our minds that we have to like
see it come to pass, like we have to see
things moving and grooving and especially being around family is
a big thing for me. And I'm from Miami, so
I don't have any really anyone but my mom in Atlanta.
So with myself moving around like sitting still, sometimes we
get I think me, I get to thinking like thinking, thinking,
(06:54):
thinking thing to the point where I'm up like, okay,
I need to so I get him. They see we're
vibing on the same October eight balance balance, you know,
that's why you are mad? Yeah, and muscles and on
(07:15):
top of that about libras we balanced. We got a
lot of energy. Are we always trying to, you know,
help others? You want to see when that'll tell me
about telling me about Aria. I love aries because you've
been my friends. Yeah, what do you? I'm a cancer
(07:38):
girl and my concert that is sweet. Don't badow with it.
Don't bow there's doing cancers and there's July cancers. I'm
a July councer. Yestly different emotional girl. And then you
gotta separate the male and the female because you see
like that were laid back more moneymas. My best friends
(07:59):
are my mama's towards roll or tourists. Yeah, yeah, let's
get into it. So I always wanted to ask this,
I mean, how did you come up with wilding out?
But the story with wilding out honestly started where I
just wanted to give my friends jobs and opportunities. I was,
(08:23):
you know, I was doing my thing a little bit
kind of start popping off, but I was still doing
stand up still, you know, making music. And I would
literally be in a comedy club one night, a studio
the next night, and like everybody kind of vibe and
they would like, yo, you you're doing movies and stuff.
Man would do something to get us on, and it
was like Kevin Hard Cat Williams doing stand up standing
(08:47):
outside making fun of each other's mama's and all of that.
And I was like, yo, we should capture this. So
I rented out a comedy club called the Comedy Union
and kind of got everybody together now crisp into right yeah,
right on Pico uh in the hood, and we like
rented it out. I got some cameras. I think it
might have called like the shooting Process. I think ram
(09:11):
almost like a hundred thousand dollars just like for that
one mona. Then, I mean it was just a lot
to put together, and I was willing and I wasn't
even falling like that, but I was like, I believed
in the vision of that improv and hip hop and
putting it because a hundred thousand dollars back in the forties,
a lot of when he started two thousand four, and
(09:35):
you know here we are today. So were just really
just friends getting together. And I wanted to give them opportunities,
and that's really funding the vision. And I just wanted example,
people opportunity to try. We grew up watching the show. Yeah,
we grew up. I mean, make me feel even over me. Okay,
(09:58):
when was the last film? Let me say this though,
real rap I gotta say, uh, this bunch of this
group of women that we had together was handpicked for
a very distinct in uh specific reason because like, and
you guys already touched on it in your your introductions.
(10:20):
It's like, you're so much more than what people see
on the screen. Yeah, and I want this to be
opportunity where you guys can express that and talk about
that and even just a little bit. This is the
first episode, uh, and I feel like you're already showing
so many more size if they didn't know about all
your businesses if they didn't know your true personalities and
and and the fact that you guys are just so
(10:41):
diligent in building who you are and your brands, you know,
everything from you being a real estate mogul, real crazy
billions of dollars like big big body homes today actually millions.
It was literally on set our third like on the
third episode, She's like waiting for this email and yeah, yeah,
(11:05):
so we need to be best Yeah. Get I was
looking at them, Spice, and then even with Crystal having
her own business and like like we'd be having like
bank conversations. She's like, yeah, so I think I want
to choose this bank for the like I've had your
no I know, yeah, I know, ship me boxing, I
(11:28):
make yours basically. Yeah, so I run the entire warehouse.
That's beautiful. So where's the locate Because I'm saying, Miami,
That's what I'm saying talking about. I feel like you're
not only there a lot. So I'm turned to the thirties.
I would be there this Yeah, I'm only there now
every month because my mom preaches in the park, so
(11:49):
I just go out there with her. And that's why
I just so, Hey, maybe we could collect fruit. I'll
bring fruit, you bring reality here. It is want to
like that because people get to see you as either
super over the top, silly or pretty. They don't know
your spiritual side is so like, really what you believe
is gotten you to this point your background and radio,
(12:10):
your education being able to like college and all like
like and then of course be someone we see you.
We I feel like we know you the most for
who you are because you always are just showing ship
but always resilience of like you can't be shook out
here like that's like we've been the conversations. But he
(12:32):
was like, get off my phone. But in that advice
was like, yo, just keep pushing like you're trying. Yeah,
like they're gonna come at me. But the fact that
you they have multimillionaire, like I said earlier, they always
gonna be on your line and wearing it. Well, so
that's why we have this array of fabulous and powerfulness.
All that's what I just I wanted to set that.
(12:56):
Thank you, thank you, So I have another question for
your unique. When we last film the season, the theme
was old school versus New School, um tell us. The
theme of this new season, well, again speaking of resiliency,
and if everybody knows that obviously was tough for everybody,
from you know, the COVID scenario, from us being out
(13:18):
there protesting, from me getting canceled, from all of those
different things. Like I think we all probably had one
of the toughest years in prior year, about a year
and a half, and then to come out, I feel
like it's a whole new world, you know what I mean?
Like that mindset, I was like, I wanted to show
not only the unity and the love and us coming
(13:40):
together and what we originally created Wilding Out for is
to give people opportunities and platforms to show who they
really are, but then at the same time to be like, yo,
we can't be stopped. You can't stop us. It's a revolution.
It's gonna be televised. Evolving into the evolution. You feel
like you evolved from last year, like change, Uh, even
though you're older, the better, definitely for the better. I
(14:03):
feel like I probably got a little bit wiser, I
got a little bit more in tune lyne, got my
chakras together because I used to allow things to bother me,
and you know what I used to want to do
and even sitting with y'all. I now choose my words wisely.
Now I don't. I used to want to show people
how smart I was. That was a thing for me.
I was like real insecure that I felt like I
(14:25):
needed to prove myself in every room because I was
always like, yeah, I was always like the youngest, and
so I wanted to show people I can. Oh, I
could because I could be like Diddy, I could be
like Will Smith, I could be like whatever executive at
the time, I could be this person. And then I've
figured out, like, I ain't you are that? So I'm
(14:45):
kind of ill chill a little bit more. Yeah, And
I actually reached out to you Nick through a d
M and tell you how COVID and I was actually
in my closet she was couldn't sleep for like thirty nights,
like however nights. It was from no November second, the
twenty four is when I left my closet. Wow, And
I said, I got COVID. You and Charlottmagne shout out
(15:06):
of Charlemagne people. Yeah, I literally was like so down on.
I was like, oh my god, this COVID is throwing
me off. But literally it was. It was serious for me,
and you had it before I had it. Yeah, yeah,
and it was the whole house. It was no furniture
in there. It was like maybe like I probably had
my bed and my couch, but like it was just everything. Hello.
So my mom was just like I ain't coming over
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there from you. So just your words was just like,
you know, I'm sorry for that, Queen. Yes, stay strong
and just keep going. So yeah, now we're here to
look at us. Never would have made it, never would
(15:50):
without you. Staring back to the show. What point did
you say, Okay needs Walting Out Girls. Oh, that's interesting,
and that that death finely has evolved. I mean, the
world is different because originally my whole focus when we
started with Wilding Out Girls, I was trying to, you know,
emulate the fly Girls from a leven color. And if
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you watch like the first season and even what we
did the wild and Our girls, they a lot of
them were dancers, and originally that's what they were gonna
come out and do and dance within dancers have unions
got a little expensive, and you know, and and it
was it was interesting because before I created Wild and
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Out I had a show on Nickelodeon that the Nick
Cannon Show and that original pilot, we had all girl
dancers and they were like hip hop dancers, and so
a few of the girls from my Nickelodeon show actually
became wilding out girls, uh, and that was gonna be
the vibe and then it we was in that early
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two thousand hip hop scene and that's that was like
the birth of the video girl. You just yeah, And
I found myself even caught in that situation like, all right,
I want them to be more than just you know,
I can't be. And so we always tried to incorporate
into the wild and out girls into the game and
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play and have fun and even start you know at
the time, because that was before social media, so we
were looking for you know, probably at the time the
most popular video video or the most because a lot
of the ones started out as well. Yeah yeah, even
I mean we're going way back and we're talking like
early two thousand. So it's like some of the girls
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that you see, um that were actual dancers, like some
of Missy's dancers who like Brittany I believe her name
is Brittany and she's on one of those Netflix shows. Yeah,
she was on this Control Yeah, she was girl and
like literally the examples like that to where it was
like young women that were doing their thing in the industry,
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but this was an opportunity to let them shine and
be more than just a pretty face. But then because
of the jokes and all that stuff, it kind of
turned into like, yeah, I wanted to switch that up.
So that's why I'm glad we're here. This is the
prime example that yes, I gotta stand while I know. Yeah,
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that's actually how I got on the show. Why I'm
not girl all this ship? Really, yes, I do remember
be Simone like I'm gonna be on this damn show.
I was like, hey, you need another comedian and so
and people do this to me all the time. So
I'm like, I'm gonna give you a proof to me
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that you're funny and prove to me that because I'm
not big on talent, because I feel like everybody has
talent all we're all gifted in something. But if you
have that drive, if you can show me that, YO,
so much more than just oh I can do this,
I can do that. And that's what the Simons about. Opportunity. No,
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but we had conversations before. I was like I would
be honest. At first, I wasn't a fan because I
didn't know and that, but everybody was like, yo, no
be smon like it was at least half a dozen
people like no, be Simone is real, Like he knicks
so nice. He was like, yeah, yeah cool. I had
like some crazy stalker comedians like because there's a difference
(19:27):
between drive and then stalker shooting. Yeah, you know, I
have people come full whiling out here like I'm ready,
let like trying to battle you. But you were always
professional and you always believe in yourself. And I was like,
let's get to it and you know, the workshops it
will let you know Jesus like you made it through
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that you you're the real deal. And that first really
when doing my pink Robin Bot and all, they sa
you could have a great name. I didn't. They didn't
even call me back girl. We was all together, me
and you just you know, we auditioned together. And then
they cut me the next season. Yeah, they called me
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season eleven. See what it wasn't about I was cut.
It was we can we can only have a certain
amount and at the time, because I want to make sure, yo,
we want to get as many women as possible, and
it was one of those things where you I hate
saying this, but there is a you can't have a
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lot of the same. So there were people that was
coming for your spot that was and they showing up
took it bad because when I but you kept pushing
like that's the dope thing about like that. Yeah, like
big times they've cut this show, keep pushing and showing
that we're really about this, and even on them, scenarios
(20:56):
can like was wrong, Like some own came and like
really took it to a whole another level. And then
like I've told you this in the past, like yo,
I salute you the fact that one you worked on
your craft like crazy, but then too you went and
built your own brands. I'm gonna do this regardless. Yeah,
you made us pay attention to Yeah, there it is.
She's got to come back. But it's also to its
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certain things that certain people, certain people just jump out
there and they feel like, oh, I know how to
do this right away, and some people it's a it's
a similar to learn. Yeah, now I look at you
all set now like killing it personality jokes. Know, you
wouldn't jump in the wild style, you know what but
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but you know you're you're more confident. Yeah, I think
for me, like I ain't killing, I'm gonna give your hall.
I'm shaking a Millie rock and being a real quick
right now I am on this podcast, I am so fly.
I think it's to my right. That is my guy,
this is you gotta jump, can't. But you know what
it is about Beto because I remember like the same
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thing with you, but she would be she was like,
I'm not going to do that. I'm not gonna do
the Wild style. And I'm like, yo, you're hilarious when
you be acting like you bout the record. Just be you.
And now she's not only that she killed, she got
like she got hit records with you and let's go
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back here. And I actually added it on my songs
my booty Squeeze, so y'all actually on the ending of
my mute video. We don't do that this season so
many times over, we like literally are making the Wild
and our album, and you know we want so like
even the songs we did today, Oh yeah, he's not
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trying to all the good songs, even the baby Mama
song out about that because you got so many But
they also know I just like, I'm gonna see if
I was, I would like next too much. You know,
It's crazy because and this one I've I've had several
(23:04):
conversations with like Mariah because I was like, let's let's
go yeah, and she's one of the biggest stars in
the world and for us to be able to just
be playing with her name for years. She's like, I
should let y'all know how cool she is, because like
she was like, I hear you little jokes and all that,
and I hear what they'd be saying to men like
now because we have ten year olds and maybe so
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like I never thought about that before. I'm like, oh,
I gotta, i gotta chill because even like you know,
people like our friends, even like Shaq came on the show,
but his little joke, it was a little out of pocket, yeah,
saying some stuff. And like for my ten year old
son who loves Shack to Shack says something to his
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dad about it. I really thought about that. It's great
because my children have amazing sense of humors, so even
they get it, they just joke. It's never and even
like the new TikTok generation and all that stuff, they
they're more in tune with humor and joking out, and
I feel like they're a little bit stronger and tougher skin.
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You know what it is that's different. We'll talk about
that because it's like that's a different energy of like
people feel like they have an opinion and everyone has to.
But I'm talking about Generation Z, like the kids, I
feel like they're more understanding. And I feel like there
was a time probably like millennials in that age group
that that were like everybody was so like, we gotta
(24:34):
make change, we gotta with our opinions. And but I
think this younger generation, specifically because of stuff like TikTok,
are like friendlier and more where the generation before that
was a little too serious what they had to be
because we was dealing with stuff like Trayvon Martin. We
was dealing with stuff like Trump and the White House.
(24:55):
We was dealing with some serious stuff. So those those
people were Now I feel like everybody's chilling back to
having fun. You got you all right, next, So what
is the criteria for choosing a while and out girl?
And today you referred to us as god us, we
are retiring the girls, and that again, to me, that's
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just me trying to evolve and just empower women. The
reason why we're staying here today because the last thing
I want to do is objectify women. And it's interesting
because we've been through so many different criterias and I'm
glad that I've actually taken myself all the way out
of the process, because I even knew early on season one.
I was like, I shouldn't be the one picking the
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will and out girls because I just felt weird. It
felt even in the casting because we were casting everyone
at the same time from cast a while and out Girl,
and I was like, I kind of let MTV. And
then I actually even put a team together to that women.
Ya figured that, and I will just roll with it.
I can make some suggestions, you know, I always vibe
off an energy and personality. One thing I always said,
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they got to be more than just a pretty face.
I want to hear that stories in the fact that
you know even the way you know we've all met,
whether it's through auditions or even knowing each other previously,
and even now you get to know people through social media,
so you're like, oh, wow, that person has their own business.
That person because because and it used to be about
the following too. Like there was a few seasons I
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want to say, like season eight, we're like, oh, the
people with the most followers, because then they can, you know,
the show. But then you find out that somebody with
eight million followers may not have a personality, yeah, or
somebody else runs their page. You know, they don't even
understand the hip hop culture. So we we learned our
lesson through that. So now it doesn't matter how many
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followers you have, It doesn't matter what you look like.
It really is who you are as a person and
are you a strong term? And I love how diverse
they are. Y'all are so diverse, are so different. We
try to give everyone an opportunity. I mean, there's there's
some amazing things where you know, we we've had so
many just outstanding people from all over the world, from Africaven,
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you know, just just different looking women, short, tall, why, slim,
whatever it is. And uh, I'm hoping that you know
the legacy of the women of Wilding Out and now
the Wilding Out Goddesses would have the opportunity to be
because I'm gonna be honest, I've always wanted to have
find my Jennifer Lopez from the fly Girls, like the
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fact that she became one of the biggest stars in
the world and she started off on a living color
as a Fly Girls. I'm looking to find that person.
But I think what's also you unique is the fact that,
you know, even on the cast, we get to have
you know, women like yourselves who come into the game
already funny, already with a brand, already ready to kill it.
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So I think there's a balance we ain't find. We
ain't found j Lo yet, but we do have pretty
B and B simone so uh and not definitely talk
about shaming. I'm a different size every season, badass, big,
and I'm just in the middle, folks. You happy, That's
what I'm happy do have? What's fun with on the
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show whom Man we were asking the cash that today,
I mean, obviously kick him out the classroom, that one
that was fun, pick up and kill it. But I
love the rap. Yeah, probably wild style. That's the most
consistent one we've been doing since the beginning. Yeah, very
creative to freestyle. And we just love hit Man and
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Nick is the only one that can't prepare and all
it's all we impromise. But you know, somebody, Okay, I'm
coming for you. Say I'm coming for you. Okay, let
me think of something, you know, Nick, if you're coming
for Nick, anybody like Nick, I'm coming for you just
got to be like, yeah, that's that's the thing. I
don't never. I don't have time to prepare, right, So like,
whatever you say, hopefully my response is good. But I'm
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thinking about the camera shots. I'm making sure. But yeah,
that's probably the most fun because we've been doing it
the longest. So you don't know what now you anything
in love, anything that had a talk, No, I really do. No, Seriously,
(29:18):
my game kids like I love let me holla. I do.
I love let me holler? And I also love um
you realize now I know gave was mad? I love
let me Okay. So this is the thing. Now, we
had a game that was kind of like let me hollow.
(29:38):
It's called break Up to make Up. And that's the
one where it first hit my spirit different because I
started watching all of these playbacks and these takes and
even seasons where we played this game whereould be an
amazing woman sitting there playing the role of the person
that's about to get broken up, and I started seeing
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energy where they were being disrespected. I hate you and
you know this, and I can't say and I'm like, yo,
this this ain't this ain't a good yea, let's stop
playing that game, because you know, they'd be doing stuff
like kicking the chair away like it was violent breakups.
That was funny, but it was still like what it Yeah,
(30:22):
it was kind of weird. And then like I was like,
all right, we're only gonna play that and if it's
a guy right there, and then you know, then we
did that a couple of times and it was pretty funny.
They have some special guests coming in and stuff like that,
and then let me holla, started to come up, you know,
with it even more because I feel like, you know, uh,
the energy got heightened based off of like things like
(30:43):
Time's up and me too, and just so many things
that were going on in the culture. And I'm like, wow,
if I'm really trying to, you know, highlight and empower
women on this show, like I feel like I get
to do it. Why would I switch and put the
wild and out girls to really be objectified. Keep its
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beautiful women standing there looking beautiful and men and women
walking up to him. So I'm like, all right, well,
I mean, this is this is what we do. But alright,
there's so many other games that we could play. And
that's where I say, like, I feel like I'm evolving
(31:25):
our last the show we can say and I think
there's a couple of games they're gonna have that same
type of energy, but it's not gonna be like, hey,
can I sleep with you? Right? Yeah? And because we
go there, that's where wilding out is. We we make jokes,
we don't hold back. It's like I said, it's probably
the most progressive show on television because there's no whole bar.
(31:46):
We go. We go all the way in. They don't
matter what your ethnicity is, her gender. We we have
fun with it. But there is a line to where
it's like, again, if my daughter was watching and man,
and she's sitting there and think that, you know, people
called women out their names and tell saying what they
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want to do to them. Man, you know you got
to explain that. So he's evolving after his twentieth kid,
I think, I think all the games I still there
yet we are. I think all the games I don't
When you have that good energy, you know, because when
you go out there and do it especially d C.
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It's just like, oh, look, okay, if you know you
could do a d he's god. Yeah, he's golden. Yeah,
you know, he's a gym. It's like, you got to
play the game because if you don't, it's like, nah,
you're going home. So that's even a like even when
you talk about like just energy and what like, even
when that whole is your banks think popped off. And
(32:51):
I mean we tried to be as delicate as possible
because I literally was standing there watching her breakdown in person.
They talked to her, Yeah, and it was more of
like and I got love for it, and you know,
the things that she heard, you know what I mean,
because often it's not what you say, but it's what
you hear. And then even and the way she processed it,
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she felt like d C was coming for her. Looks
attacking the black women, feel like, oh, that's some stuff
that she probably had. D was just being DC. He
called everybody ugly. Ugly can call out ugly, but we're
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joking and playing. But she wasn't playing in that moment.
She heard the word ugly and and she was already
in defense because she probably she was Again, she didn't
guess to come on the show. They're nervous that I
had commended her for even coming in the first place.
And then we're playing the game called so Petty and
then he's something something with your ugly ass, and that's
(33:53):
that triggered her. He wasn't he was being d C.
If you never met DC the then this friendly is
the world always silly? And then god fearing Yeah, okay,
you know what I mean. But it went it went
the wrong way, and I tried to control it, and
I think we did good with it, you know what
(34:13):
I mean, because you know, she handled it a certain
way and I think we reeled it back in. And
so we don't believe in cancel culture on any side. Yeah. So,
speaking of cancel culture, you have a new game called
Can't I Cancel? How did you come up with that?
Because I got tired of everybody canceling ship so many times,
(34:36):
be Simon, and can you know one of the times
I was canceled because of this damn show I was
on with him, Yeah, yeah, five And then he was like,
oh really, she said I don't want to do with
no regular nine to five, And I was like, oh,
what about the checkout guy? At Walmart. All of the
(34:58):
nine to fives came at it. You know what, or
most of the people that follow us and support us
have hard working jobs. And guess when I say this
on my stand up, I say this at the end
of my stand up, Clap. If you are ninety five
and you have your hardworking citizen A hundred most of
the room clap. Clap. If you love your job and
you will be there for the next thirty years, one
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percent claps. That's why I'm not dating no man, because
if you have ambition, you have heard, you have something
inside of you, and you have a dream, a million
dollar idea, and you're sitting at a desk, that is
a problem for me. I need a man who was
gonna chase his dream. I need a man who was
gonna take risk, financial risk, mental risk, emotional risk, and
not sit at a job because you're comfortable with a
paycheck every two weeks. I needed to go take some
(35:41):
risk and see if you can go make some more money. Yeah,
it's preference. I still ain't dating nigger. Foot locker question
the foot locker, you bring joy to my life, Hamish,
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So could cancel culture be viewed in a positive way?
I think that's what we're trying to do with the
with the game. But also when you think about I
think people there has there's this mentality of you know,
we have to clean things up. Like as a as
a parent, you're think like, okay, there are certain things
I don't want my child to hear. There are certain
perspectives and aspects. And when you were dealing with, you know,
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eight years of white supremacy in your face, like Donald
Trump was just saying, wow, you know, someone need there's
a reason why he can't get on Instagram or or
Twitter and none of that more because then you have
capital riots, you know. So there is there's a level
of all right, we do need to make sure there's
(36:46):
some parameters and but so I can see the positive
aspect from that open to grow and learning. It should
be it should be a person or a group that
we all entrust then that say okay, they can set
the rules and regulations. That's why there are ratings on movies.
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That's why there are certain things on television standards and practices.
I abide by that, you know, all day long, because
we're all showing up to do a job and we
got to be professional. But when you just let any
old body and it becomes this group think, which is
really dangerous. But one popular person says something and everyone follows.
If the whatever, the first comment is, whatever the caption is,
(37:28):
whatever has the most likes, we're gonna rock with that.
I think it's going away though. I think, you know again,
I think I believe the energy of the world is
in a different place. People are just happy to be
a live people are happy to be outside. People just
want to smile, live and have a good time. And
that's what comedy is all about. We're supposed to make
people feel better and forget about, you know, all of
(37:49):
the woes and tribulations and just you know. Yeah, And
I think it was stillness too. It was a lot
of stillness going on. Yeah, and um um, I think
everybody was at a steel place trying to figure out
who they were internally and healing internally. I mean that's
a journey each day. But I think the energy is
shifting a little bit, and I think people have their
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own then they haven't going on. But I think it's
going into a positive way because some people, yeah, like
a healing thing because a lot of I went through
a lot of trauma. They faced those demons a lot
of I was in my closet, not even when I
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take I was in my apartment before I bought my home,
and I would texted Charlotte Magne and I was like Shi,
and I said, um, you know, it's I'm just overthinking.
Look at my mom's a pastor. So shekar actually got
to my knees and start praying. But I wanted to,
you know, call on man just for one second, just
to say, you know, showing in my head I'm overthinking that.
I said, you just be still, be just be still.
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In that word be still, I'm like, oh my god,
I'm still to be thinking about all these certain things.
I was on the Movies Movies set the other day
trying to say, you're gonna get another still moment. Help
you help, You're gonna be ready when you steal again.
I was like, the devil is lying, gonna be still,
keep moving, But it's a it's a moment where a
moment where to be still. And that's what I've learned
(39:11):
because God was trying to speak to me in my
home to be still, because what I about to get
you when I'm done with you? While you in your
home and you're crying and doing all this, I'm gonna
give you something so big that you don't even know
you're about to get. So he did. He showed me
so many avenues, so many things in my career that
I could do, the creative imaginations in my mind. That's
gonna come to pass in such a good way. So
it's beauty and being still you know, definitely that's a
(39:35):
word right there. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that to figure.
What's your quote? Suff should be ready? Ready? I well,
since I'm the first guest and um uh, truly proud
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of what I see here. When it's so much strength,
there's so much power, I feel like the vision has
really come to pass. I'll go to the word for
a second, come the word of virtuous women. Proverbs one.
It says strength and dignity are a woman's clothing, and
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she will laugh at what comes in her future. And
when you just said that, that's what I thought about. Yeah,
that's strength and she will laugh at what comes to
in her culture, I mean, in her future. So that's
really saying like she's so proud of what's in front
of her, and beyond that you can laugh and be
(40:41):
jovial and that's what we're all here for. It is
proverb come on Church, but sometimes I don't. I'm like
in the beginning, Jesus wept, Jesus wet, So Nick, you
know this was such a great interview. Conversation came through
(41:06):
and you know, keep doing it. Uh, and we're going
all the way up. I'm again, I'm proud of you,
proud of big deals. Cheers. I'm waiting for my box
to tries. Cheers to the multimillions one time, but the
(41:27):
one time the women a while and out lego, that's question, kids,
do you want how many more? Yes? Honest, I don't
think he's gonna stop. Yeah, first of all, I love
to Africa. Yeah, I'm gonna try the list it comes, Yo.
(41:48):
You're as wealthy as the strength of your tried. If
you can afford it, you can have as many as
because I've seen you know, I'll be seeing what they
say like going viral and stuff like our money ain't
and everything like yo, I literally love all my children
like one like I want to be. I want to
be that old man in the bed with twenty kids
around me and just everybody. Mama's gonna be it's a village.
(42:13):
It's a village. They don't go give me an island
turn up. Just make sure we are a strong WiFi
and we just live off the fruit of the land. Good.
I'm doing right. You heard it here first, you heard
(42:37):
it here first, or whatever. It's not a coult snatching tattoos.
But if I don't know, we gotta let this man
go with the part two because he be hypnotizing these women,
because I don't say he's all right now, I do
(42:59):
understand these even I'm like, what is it? No, Nicholas,
they'd be getting tattoos of his face, and I'm like,
people can stare. We were amazing positive place. Now we could, Karen,
(43:24):
I don't know what wollow but yeah, okay, okay, we'll
talk about the next episode. Yeah about me when I'm
not here. I don't want to say thank you, thank
you so much, thank you, thank you, thank you so
much for your time. Nick will be right back with
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more women a while and now right after this. No. Yeah,
but he dropped some gems though, Jim. He think we
are smart. Nick's smart, he's respectful, he's handsome, he's not
that young and more but he but he looks. He
looks good for his age. But he looks good. Black
don't crack black, don't it cracks a little? Wait? Yeah, okay,
(44:12):
what you want to say? A great sweatpants? See. I
have a boyfriend now, y'all. But I guessed my fourth
time saying because I want trying to know get out?
I found what were you happy with your boyfriend? Next episode?
It's so fine, he's chocolated, got pretty teeth, got you
know that bad? I posted his back every time, back
(44:35):
every time she looking at my man, every time she
posts her dudes back like that bag. Girls so muscular
and not like a little grouble on it. I never
had a man in shape. I used to love to
get money. Gut yeah, I see your money. You're stupid.
(44:57):
So I'm singing so I could look and you hain't
sneakle single? You just want single? No, definitely single single?
What about y'all? Single? Single? No? I haven't man over
a year? Girl, me too? When your anniversary mm soon,
(45:19):
I'm expecting something big. So oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he
better come with a little ah, don't get it. They
got to get a text from the beastie. Yeah yeah,
he definitely gonna get a text from you know, the
gang Gang. Okay, make sure. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you
what I want you to tell him about. Yeah, pass it,
(45:41):
pop it okay, yeah, so yeah, you right know what
time and it's just the woman. And remember tell us
up with the wine, all right. Okay, So no, ladies,
a delay, it's never a denial. And whatever you're asking
(46:06):
God for money, continue to trust the process and hustle
at your own pace. And I love y'all and love
you yes. And this is the Women of Wolving Out podcast.
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