April 2, 2025 • 10 mins
Join Lynn Hoffman for this Classic Replay of Music Saved Me with country music singer songwriter Walker Hayes. He shares the deep and personal meaning of creating music and how it continues to help him through challenging times.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Music Saved Me.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
As a child, my earliest memories of music was the
waffle house jukebox. I remember being small enough to reach
up to my dad's pockets and reach in and try
to find some change. Now a particular type of music, Nah,
as a kid, I wasn't just it wasn't one genre.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It was just basically all music.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome to the Music Saved Me Podcast. I'm your host,
Lynn Hoffman, and on this episode we have a member
of the country music community who has met life's challenges
head on, most certainly with the help of the healing
force of music. Walker Hayes is an American country pop
singer and songwriter, and he shares his story on Music
(00:45):
Saved Me. Welcome to the show. Who are you all right?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, I'm Walker Hayes and happy to be here, and
I'm here to talk about how important the gift of
music is to me as just an outside source of therapy,
but also just a therapeutic, creative way to express myself.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Were you a fan of specific musicians that you connected
with early on?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
You know, as a child, my earliest memories of music
were was the waffle house jukebox, and you know, I
would I remember being you know, small enough to reach
up to my dad's pockets and reach in and try
to find some change in the pocket where he kept
his keys and his quarters, you know in and you
(01:37):
know i'd beg him for a quarter.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
As particular type of music, No, as a kid, I
wasn't just it wasn't one genre. It was just basically
all music. I do remember I used a lot of
those quarters to play Willie Nelson's on the Road again
for some reason, that was a that was a favorite
for me. But early on, uh, I picked up the
(02:03):
love of music from my father. He was a he
was a music minister. But it wasn't just it wasn't
just church music, you know, at our house, it was
all types of uh you know, music being played and
you know him singing and in the car you know,
and things like that. So I just I got a
(02:23):
I had a well rounded, you know, musical education at
an early age thanks to him. But you know, before
there was ever a thought of I'd love to do
this as a as an occupation, as a career.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
First it just was a.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Healthy, healthy love of music. It was an escape for
me as far as I can remember. I mean, I
self realized. It was a self realization that I loved music.
No one had to no one had to say, hey,
you need to give music to try. You know, it
just was in me. My father was a retired music minister.
(03:00):
He's sold real estate, but that was his first job
for his first twenty five or so years out of college.
And so he would we would be in line at
Cracker Barel paying our bill, and he would just bust
out in song. And I honestly I was like, I
don't know this guy.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I was so embarrassed, and I was more more of
a shy.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Took me a while, you know, I had stage fright,
but I would say without a doubt, my my dad
was the first person to ever hear me and and
encouraged me to do it, you know outside my bedroom,
you know, to to sing in front of people. I
had a music teacher named mister Powell who put me
in a play that I didn't really want to be in.
(03:46):
So between him and my dad, they kind of nudged me,
you know, on the stage. And and and once I
did the things that they encouraged me to do, I
just fell in love with it.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I mean, my dad, I'll never.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Forget the first gig I ever played a guitar in
a bar, he called me on his cell phone. It
was from a place called the Yacht Club and Mobile
off DP and it's just this little bar on Mobile
Bay and he called me and said, hey, I asked
the bar manager, Trudy, if you could play on Friday.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
And I was furious.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean because I honestly, I was twenty something, I
was about to get married, and.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I honestly said, I said, Dad, I'll do this.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Get He had heard me in the living room and
he was like, you know, it's hard to believe your dad.
You're like your dad. If your dad says you're good,
whatever he's supposed to say, I'm good. So yeah, I'm
not sure I trusted him, but I said, I will
do this gig if you'll quit doing that, you know,
quit pushing me out of my comfort zone. And I
played that gig and that was the that was the thing.
(04:51):
I mean, that's that's when I called Laney and I said,
you know, let's get out of Mobile, Let's let's move
to Nashville. I want to I want to try this,
you know, for real. So it's all his fault.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Thank you, Dad. Speaking of you have a song called
a Briefcase, which is a narrative about life and work
and regrets. Can you talk a little bit about what
that song means to you?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, what a great Holy cow.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I wouldn't have known, honestly, how to talk about all
these great things you're talking about. And unless you mentioned
that song, that's a great example of what music means
to me. I wrote that song when my about two
months before my dad died, we were losing him. He
(05:41):
had Parkinson's. This was two years ago and two years ago,
March twenty second, and I was, you know, as a
son would do as you're you know, kind of seeing
your hero whither away.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know, you begin to start thinking of regrets.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You know, you think you start thinking, you know, have
I told my father how I really feel about him?
You know now and also at my age, you know,
my dad and I, his relationship is going through a
lot of phases, as Briefcase describes. You know, as a kid,
I was not a fan of my father. I felt
like I competed with his job for him, and you know,
(06:25):
there were nights where I'd be playing ball games and
all I could think about at the game was.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know, why am my dad here?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And that frustrated me and so that briefcase, I didn't
like it, But expressing that emotion it was like a
priceless therapy session, you know, to sit down and write, Hey, Dad,
I didn't really get it as a child. As I
(06:53):
grew older and began to have kids, I began to
understand what you were juggling all that you were up
again as a father, and now.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I appreciate the job you did.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And and I basically admitted to my father that as
a child, I didn't want to be like him. But
now if anyone says that I remind them of my father,
it is is a proud, proud moment for me. And
I am honored that they would look at me and
say that that I resemble him in any way, whether
(07:27):
it's the way I look, walk, talk, father anything, And
so yeah, I mean that again that the writing the
creation of that song walked me through one of the
most difficult things I ever endured, you know, as a human,
which is watching my hero basically disintegrate, you know, go
(07:47):
from the strongest man I knew, to being reminded that
we were all. We are all human and eventually our
bodies fail us. And I watched him leave this earth.
I mean I was sitting by his side, singing a
hymn on a guitar when he breathed his last breath.
And I guarantee you my sister was there with me,
(08:08):
and I'm sure I played briefcase that day, you know,
just just sitting in his room.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So when you talk about I don't know how else
to say.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Music means a lot to me, you know, or that
music has been more so the arm of God around
me and in some of my deepest, darkest times of
need for peace and hope and comfort in this world.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Wow, that is so powerful. Thank you for sharing that.
You know your music deals with love and loss and anger.
Do you visualize members of your fan base that may
be going through something in their life?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I guess I kind of have this out of body
visualization of somebody listening to the song alone in their car,
you know, And I really want them to hear the
song in the beginning, but kind of leave where they're
not listening to me anymore, They're not imagining me as
(09:13):
an artist singing it. I would like them to go
to a place in their own life and almost forget
they're listening to me and them think of their own
experiences and they're like, yeah, I try to visualize, you know,
my fans being moved, you know, to a moment that
(09:35):
might be kind of a moment where they were injured,
or you know, make them think of somebody they love,
or cut through the pleasantries and get to the heart
of where someone is, you know, when they're just sitting
on the highway, you know, alone.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Walker, thank you so much for being an artist that
is so transparent in your trials and tribulations, and thanks
for being here on Music Saved Be.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I wish I could say I'm just a nice guy
and I love to help people, but selfishly it is
in creating these things.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
It's just very helpful to me, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I mean, that's that's how I that's how I open up,
you know, my heart and get get some stuff out
and and and share.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So it's very helpful for me. But I appreciate it.
Music Saved Me.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
As a child, my earliest memories of music was the
waffle house jukebox. I remember being small enough to reach
up to my dad's pockets and reach in and try
to find some change. Now a particular type of music, Nah,
as a kid, I wasn't just it wasn't one genre.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It was just basically all music.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome to the Music Saved Me Podcast. I'm your host,
Lynn Hoffman, and on this episode we have a member
of the country music community who has met life's challenges
head on, most certainly with the help of the healing
force of music. Walker Hayes is an American country pop
singer and songwriter, and he shares his story on Music
(00:45):
Saved Me. Welcome to the show. Who are you all right?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, I'm Walker Hayes and happy to be here, and
I'm here to talk about how important the gift of
music is to me as just an outside source of therapy,
but also just a therapeutic, creative way to express myself.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Were you a fan of specific musicians that you connected
with early on?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
You know, as a child, my earliest memories of music
were was the waffle house jukebox, and you know, I
would I remember being you know, small enough to reach
up to my dad's pockets and reach in and try
to find some change in the pocket where he kept
his keys and his quarters, you know in and you
(01:37):
know i'd beg him for a quarter.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
As particular type of music, No, as a kid, I
wasn't just it wasn't one genre. It was just basically
all music. I do remember I used a lot of
those quarters to play Willie Nelson's on the Road again
for some reason, that was a that was a favorite
for me. But early on, uh, I picked up the
(02:03):
love of music from my father. He was a he
was a music minister. But it wasn't just it wasn't
just church music, you know, at our house, it was
all types of uh you know, music being played and
you know him singing and in the car you know,
and things like that. So I just I got a
(02:23):
I had a well rounded, you know, musical education at
an early age thanks to him. But you know, before
there was ever a thought of I'd love to do
this as a as an occupation, as a career.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
First it just was a.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Healthy, healthy love of music. It was an escape for
me as far as I can remember. I mean, I
self realized. It was a self realization that I loved music.
No one had to no one had to say, hey,
you need to give music to try. You know, it
just was in me. My father was a retired music minister.
(03:00):
He's sold real estate, but that was his first job
for his first twenty five or so years out of college.
And so he would we would be in line at
Cracker Barel paying our bill, and he would just bust
out in song. And I honestly I was like, I
don't know this guy.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I was so embarrassed, and I was more more of
a shy.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Took me a while, you know, I had stage fright,
but I would say without a doubt, my my dad
was the first person to ever hear me and and
encouraged me to do it, you know outside my bedroom,
you know, to to sing in front of people. I
had a music teacher named mister Powell who put me
in a play that I didn't really want to be in.
(03:46):
So between him and my dad, they kind of nudged me,
you know, on the stage. And and and once I
did the things that they encouraged me to do, I
just fell in love with it.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I mean, my dad, I'll never.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Forget the first gig I ever played a guitar in
a bar, he called me on his cell phone. It
was from a place called the Yacht Club and Mobile
off DP and it's just this little bar on Mobile
Bay and he called me and said, hey, I asked
the bar manager, Trudy, if you could play on Friday.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
And I was furious.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean because I honestly, I was twenty something, I
was about to get married, and.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I honestly said, I said, Dad, I'll do this.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Get He had heard me in the living room and
he was like, you know, it's hard to believe your dad.
You're like your dad. If your dad says you're good,
whatever he's supposed to say, I'm good. So yeah, I'm
not sure I trusted him, but I said, I will
do this gig if you'll quit doing that, you know,
quit pushing me out of my comfort zone. And I
played that gig and that was the that was the thing.
(04:51):
I mean, that's that's when I called Laney and I said,
you know, let's get out of Mobile, Let's let's move
to Nashville. I want to I want to try this,
you know, for real. So it's all his fault.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Thank you, Dad. Speaking of you have a song called
a Briefcase, which is a narrative about life and work
and regrets. Can you talk a little bit about what
that song means to you?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, what a great Holy cow.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I wouldn't have known, honestly, how to talk about all
these great things you're talking about. And unless you mentioned
that song, that's a great example of what music means
to me. I wrote that song when my about two
months before my dad died, we were losing him. He
(05:41):
had Parkinson's. This was two years ago and two years ago,
March twenty second, and I was, you know, as a
son would do as you're you know, kind of seeing
your hero whither away.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know, you begin to start thinking of regrets.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You know, you think you start thinking, you know, have
I told my father how I really feel about him?
You know now and also at my age, you know,
my dad and I, his relationship is going through a
lot of phases, as Briefcase describes. You know, as a kid,
I was not a fan of my father. I felt
like I competed with his job for him, and you know,
(06:25):
there were nights where I'd be playing ball games and
all I could think about at the game was.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know, why am my dad here?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And that frustrated me and so that briefcase, I didn't
like it, But expressing that emotion it was like a
priceless therapy session, you know, to sit down and write, Hey, Dad,
I didn't really get it as a child. As I
(06:53):
grew older and began to have kids, I began to
understand what you were juggling all that you were up
again as a father, and now.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I appreciate the job you did.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And and I basically admitted to my father that as
a child, I didn't want to be like him. But
now if anyone says that I remind them of my father,
it is is a proud, proud moment for me. And
I am honored that they would look at me and
say that that I resemble him in any way, whether
(07:27):
it's the way I look, walk, talk, father anything, And
so yeah, I mean that again that the writing the
creation of that song walked me through one of the
most difficult things I ever endured, you know, as a human,
which is watching my hero basically disintegrate, you know, go
(07:47):
from the strongest man I knew, to being reminded that
we were all. We are all human and eventually our
bodies fail us. And I watched him leave this earth.
I mean I was sitting by his side, singing a
hymn on a guitar when he breathed his last breath.
And I guarantee you my sister was there with me,
(08:08):
and I'm sure I played briefcase that day, you know,
just just sitting in his room.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So when you talk about I don't know how else
to say.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Music means a lot to me, you know, or that
music has been more so the arm of God around
me and in some of my deepest, darkest times of
need for peace and hope and comfort in this world.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Wow, that is so powerful. Thank you for sharing that.
You know your music deals with love and loss and anger.
Do you visualize members of your fan base that may
be going through something in their life?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I guess I kind of have this out of body
visualization of somebody listening to the song alone in their car,
you know, And I really want them to hear the
song in the beginning, but kind of leave where they're
not listening to me anymore, They're not imagining me as
(09:13):
an artist singing it. I would like them to go
to a place in their own life and almost forget
they're listening to me and them think of their own
experiences and they're like, yeah, I try to visualize, you know,
my fans being moved, you know, to a moment that
(09:35):
might be kind of a moment where they were injured,
or you know, make them think of somebody they love,
or cut through the pleasantries and get to the heart
of where someone is, you know, when they're just sitting
on the highway, you know, alone.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Walker, thank you so much for being an artist that
is so transparent in your trials and tribulations, and thanks
for being here on Music Saved Be.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I wish I could say I'm just a nice guy
and I love to help people, but selfishly it is
in creating these things.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
It's just very helpful to me, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I mean, that's that's how I that's how I open up,
you know, my heart and get get some stuff out
and and and share.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So it's very helpful for me. But I appreciate it.
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