NAKED REPLAY - Amanda Seales - I’m On Tour!

Is Amanda Seales misunderstood or is she just an unfiltered unapologetic loud voice, and you have to be informed on the topics before you can understand her critiques? 

Seales is a Comedian and Common Sense Specialist and the creator of Smart, Funny & Black Radio. She gained her notoriety after making the radical decision to move across the country from New York to California and within four months was cast in HBO’s Insecure as Tiffany Dubois, she also explains how this character came to life.

As she continues to grow her online community and within the public eye, it’s not without a little backlash but we have a feeling, she won’t go quietly into the night…in fact, she might just get louder and louder and LOUDER.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And it was like, how could I be so misunderstood
in this situation? And so what happens is you read
the point of like if this is how people react
to me moving at my most authentic and genuine, then
like how could I continue to move in this space
I have to go to? And that is the creative

(00:23):
activists that I like to call Amanda Seals. She's joining
us today. Are naked, every champion and every champions to
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in preparation for this interview, as I have shared with

(01:30):
you all before, it is hard for me to sometimes
interview my friends or people that I'm friendly with that
I get to see out and about in regular life.
And so in preparation for this interview with comedian, actress,
talent extraordinaire, writer, director, all the things right, this is
the creative and also I call her an activist, and
there's all types of activism, but I do believe she

(01:50):
is active. I simply went to her ig page like
I knew what I could read about her, and I've
participated in some of her productions and I've seen her
at different productions that we've worked together. The last time
I saw her was at the Juneteenth special we did
for CNN, and I remember talking to her thinking, I
just enjoy her. Now. What I enjoy about Amanda is

(02:11):
that she shows up authentically herself. She doesn't know how
to be anyone but herself. That I can understand, that
I can relate to, that I know can cause problems,
that I know puts people on defense, and I also
know it could in many cases stall your movement in
your career. It could in many cases stall the progress

(02:32):
of your personal life, you know, as in your professional
life too. And I understand how you can be received
and misunderstood. And I feel like a lot of what
Amanda possesses at times can be a misunderstanding. People misunderstanding
who she is because of her passion, because of how
she approaches the world or how she has approached the
world in the past. And that is where she I

(02:55):
find myself in naked curiosity with her, meaning I see
you fully because I see myself misunderstood in so many ways.
And it reminded me. In this interview, she said, you know,
she talked about tweeting something and it was so innocuous.
She couldn't believe that she was trending and people were
judging her because it was no big deal to her

(03:16):
in her mind, And a lot of that could be
just the perception of people of what people have of her.
They feel like she might be starting trouble, so they
want to take offense to everything she says. But she said,
I can't believe I'm so misunderstood, And it reminded me
of what another famous black woman said to me, and
that was Serena Williams. She said, she can't understand why

(03:37):
she's been so misunderstood all these years now retired from tennis.
I don't know for how long my thoughts, I'll just
interject that I don't know for how long, but I
remember her saying she felt very misunderstood in this world
that had given her so many resources and so much
life and treated her to this new life that she
now has, this enterprise that she is building. And it's
such a dichotomy to love something but be so misunderstood

(03:59):
by that same thing that you so much happiness, it
can also bring you pain. Wow, that was powerful. But
what brings you a lot of happiness can bring you
pain as well. That was powerful, didn't you think anyway?
With that being said, I really enjoy having her on
the podcast, and the word that I think of when
I see her from when she first came on the scene.

(04:21):
You know, for many people to her work through Insecure,
through whatever issues she's had publicly, whatever trending that may
have happened, or whatever thoughts you have of her, I
really have watched her evolve and that will be my
word evolve. I think oftentimes we don't allow people to
grow and be different and be better and evolve. Dare

(04:41):
I say, I do believe there will be a time
when we look back at Kanye and he'll say, he'll
do his apology tour and we'll watch him evolve from
whatever he's going through right now. Like I do believe that,
and I hold grace in space for that. For people
not to get too spiritualignan, but I just do, and
sometimes I feel like we don't do that in the
world that we live in. I hope that the same

(05:03):
grace in space that I hope for Amanda or Serena,
or even for Kanye for that matter, people will give
me the same. On the podcast, we do talk about Kanye.
We drag him, yes, because he needs to be drug
if that's correct English. He needs to be drugged or
maybe he is on drugs stop like digress, but he does.
He does need a talking to, a stern talking to,

(05:26):
and Amanda had some great thoughts on that. But we
also just talk about how we show up in the
world and what it means to be us. It's a
really insightful, insightful podcast, and she's such a great mind.
So whenever you can get minutes with people with great minds,
ask all you can, but most importantly, listen to how
they see the world. Her perception of the world, how

(05:47):
she views things, is so different than what I would
think about. It's just another layer and another level. It
doesn't mean she's right, but it's just another layer and
another level in which you can digest information and see
the world. And you can't be wrong with that. Did
you guys? Hear my elbow crack? I'm getting out. My
elbow just cracked. Sit back, relax, you're gonna laugh too.
My cheeks were hurting. I was crying at one point
because she said there's a place. She says, she thinks

(06:09):
there's a place. When like people are single like me,
they're like, how come you ain't got no man? And
she's like, well, you act like there's a place called
good Man Island. She didn't say man, but good Man Island.
And we just we get dropped off a good Man Island.
Be like, I know he too tall, too rich, he
too fine. I don't want to be with none of them.
You know, there's no such place. What does it exist?
Find it for me? Thank you? Amanda Seals for being unnaked.

(06:36):
I want to get to everything that I have. I
was up early studying you. I don't know if you've
even paid attention. It could have been a series of
lights on your IG page that was me just just
like a man. Yes, a man, that's right. And what
I realized is, I said, in addition to Amanda Verse,

(06:57):
if I was someone who needed to catch up on
what is going on in the world, and I have
been off of social media heavy in the last couple
of days, I could just go to your page I
or Amanda Verse and you're talking about everything and all things,
which to me is exhausting but also fascinating because you're

(07:18):
so goddamn intelligent and you just always have these quick
moments where you're like and oh, by the way, and
I'm not just saying that, it's just true. It just
is what it is. Thanks Carrie Champs. How do you
how do you have the capacity? I don't know. I
don't know. I don't know how. It doesn't come from you,
it doesn't come from you. It's just in you. It

(07:38):
must be you know. The Christians would say Jesus. The
spiritual ones would say, the ancestors I mean, you know,
the Raven Claws would say, Dumbledore. I think it's I'm
drawing from everywhere, honestly. Honestly, I marvel at the capacity

(08:01):
because sometimes you're just like, how do you have something
else to say? Like, how do you have something else
to saying? It really a stream of consciousness, and I
think that's part of what the capacity is is that
I really am not having to think my thoughts within
a chamber of like is this going to upset a network?

(08:24):
Is it going to upset a like? I'm not having
to do the strategicy around my thinking. And I think
that when they talk about a freethinker, to me, a
freethinker is not somebody that is saying things without actual
intellect or you know, you know, without actual backing or support.

(08:47):
A freethinker is somebody who is able to utilize all
the information that they know combined with their experience and
consider new things. That, to me, is a freethinker consider
new concepts, consider new ideas without the limitations of oh well,
no one else said this before, so it can't exist.
So I try to think in that way, like what

(09:09):
can I add to the conversation that's not just you know,
some wild shit, which I think is how a lot
of people think. It's like, how can I just add
some shocking or wild shit when they start talking about freethinkers.
As you just so eloquently put, you just have a
stream of consciousness. You do have a very unique perspective,
but it does seem very effortless, like Okay, I am

(09:31):
sitting in the house and there's something else I want
to tell you. Oh, and I'm back. I forgot to
tell you this before I take a nap, and then okay,
now I thought about this. I'm watching this in real
time and thinking, oh, this makes a lot of sense.
The way I read it was I see you hosting
the Daily Show. It was a version of your Daily Show,
Like if that was what you wanted to do, that

(09:52):
was the news and the notes that I needed. That
made sense to me. That really made me think about
what's going on in the world in a larger perspective,
in a different perspective. When you talk about Kanye and
what he's saying and the responsibility of artists, black artists
in particular, I never really I didn't connect the two,
but you're so historically speaking. Please share with my listener

(10:15):
because it was genius. Oh thank you. I mean what
I was saying about, you know, the importance of black
artists is that I think a lot of us fail
to recognize the unique position that black artists have, particularly
in America, compared to the role that artists play that

(10:36):
are a part of other cultures, ethnic groups, and races.
So we'll see comments made like, oh, why are black
celebrities given so much quote unquote power, Why are they
expected to be leaders? Why are we even paying so
much attention to someone like Kanye West? And I conceptualize
it as black people in America we have a very

(10:58):
very unique existence unlike black people in other places, in
that we were stolen from the place that we were
familiarized with, the place where we shared a past, the present,
and the future with. We were stolen from those people
and brought to a new land where we had to
then create a whole new identity for ourselves without even
being allowed to connect with the other people that we

(11:21):
were having a shared experience with because of divide and conquer,
because of white supremacy, because of slavery, you, etc. Right,
the brainwashing that went along with that to undermine our
connectivity and identity so our existence as Black Americans has
become realized and actualized and made visible in so many

(11:46):
ways by the existence of artists telling our story. Yeah,
so when we talk about the importance of slave narratives,
and we talk about the importance of the blues as
a form of music that came out of reconstruction and
black people coming to slavery but realizing that they still
don't know where they can go to actually be free,
right in the midst of in the midst of chain gangs,

(12:09):
in the midst of the Jim parlaws were about to
come out of that, etc. So we look at black artists,
and I think for some of us we look at
them in a vacuum, just based on our own current existence.
But the experience of black people in America has for
many of us been actualized and legitimized too, especially other people,

(12:30):
by the work and the voices of artists of black artists.
And so that's why I think, like when we talk
about black popular culture, like, for instance, we're doing Smartphonny
and Black in Brooklyn on October twenty nine at the
Kings Theater. It's a Halloween spectacular, So I'm asking folks
to come dress as their favorite black characters or icons,
and some people might say like, well, why are you
putting the two together. Well, for black folks, black characters

(12:53):
exists in the same framework as actual living black icons.
You cannot tell me that Claire Huxtable is not real
for us, use she represented for us in a way
that we were not allowed to represent for ourselves in reality.
So that's true. Oh my gosh, so true, so powerful,

(13:13):
so true. In my mind, that was the conversation of
why people are are you like, what is the deal
with Kanye? Well, this is why people are saying that
this is calling him like just ignore him, you know,
just it's like, no, it's impossible. You're doing damage even
though you think you you you're not. And then you
had to explain what I thought was great, most Deep,
sure you're like okay, so guys, hey, you're just like

(13:36):
so I just say here, okay, I'm back, I gotta
I gotta take care of y'all. And the fact that
people I literally say Mostef's name and his I say
his previous name most Deff, and his current name is
seen Bay. I say it. It's also in the picture
in the video it is, and people are still in

(13:56):
the comments like well this isn't the shut. Kanye was
wearing it though, and I'm like, you know what, I
can't do it all or we're not yeah we should
like look, I can lead you here to the water
if you'd like to drink, drink, but I can't literally
put the cup to your mouth. I saw someone called
the failure to see that. I saw someone call you know,

(14:17):
people were like, how y'all cannot comprehend this? And I
saw someone call that ableism, and I was like, you
know what, I gotta I gotta say, nap, Why are
you guys making fun of other people for their lack
of comprehension? Is that where we've come as a people? Yes? Yes, yes, yes,
because I'm tired of yes. I think it's interesting because

(14:40):
when I see you, I see me. I see a
lot of black women I know who have a platform
that um boldly speak what they feel and and step
into their power, knowing that society says that we should not.
And you gave an interview on Headspace. There were several
things that you said that I thought were very Oh
my god, Karry, you was really researching. Yeah. I know

(15:05):
her too, She like you acting like you don't know.
I do, but I needed to do my homework because
I was this morning in such a clear space that
I just wanted to just make sure I'm familiar. And
I caught up and I couldn't get all. I mean,
that's legit. I'm not even just being a fan. I
was like, oh my god. And then and then and
then it was about your tone, about how you talk
to people, about how people receive what you say, and

(15:28):
you you know, it's I think the shirt was I'm
not angry on oh, this was the style like you
interview where I had to like stripped down with every question. Yeah,
I hadn't know. My shirt was I'm not hostile. I'm
just passionate. I'm just passionate. I mean, why why is
there this misconception? I think there's a couple of elements there, right,

(15:49):
Like I have a deep voice, so there's that. Then
there's also like I'm very direct, I have what's called
like I think they call it like a real a
non regional act sent So there's also a certain like
authoritarianism associated with whiteness that's in the way I talk
um And I think also like I have a tendency

(16:12):
to come off condescending when I'm sometimes I am being condescending,
but sometimes just keeping in the boat. But sometimes sometimes
I'm just like, are y'all fucking kidding me? Um? But
sometimes I'm not. I'm just like like my you know,
they'll be like my toxic trait. Like my toxic traite
is that like, if I know this is not correct information,

(16:32):
I feel the need to speak the correct information like that. Again,
that comes off is like you're a know at all,
or you're a pushy or you know, you're trying to
school everybody. So I get that. I think the other
part of it, too, is the passion part is that
when I speak about things that matter to me, which

(16:53):
I just happen to have a lot of things that
matter to me, there's a conviction behind it that can
come off as force and it can come off as brusque,
and it really is just me trying to like emphatically
get you to understand, and that gets misinterpreted. And I
think that's the way that a lot of Black women
deliver our messages, right. I think a lot of Black women,

(17:16):
for what it's worth, are are very used to not
being heard, and so we have to elevate our voices.
We have to be kurt and articulate and really you know, direct,
so that we are not misconstrued, and that oftentimes ends

(17:37):
up being misinterpreted as something else. Yeah, and I think
the people, yeah angry mean means a big one. Yeah,
it's annoying, but you're like, but they don't realize how
we show up in the world and how the world
sees us and how we see it. That has also
just how we talk. Yes, I mean I also just

(17:57):
have like no tolerance for stupidity, and we live in
a world of stupidity. So like I am no, Yeah,
well are you even be frustrated every time someone time
You're like, again, I can't have this conversation. I said,
I don't know what this is, you know, and I
and listen, And that's something so that that is my problem.
Like I am impatient in a way that um, you know,

(18:22):
can can can get in the way of kindness. And
so that's something I'm constantly working on and having to
check myself on. UM. But I remember, like I did
this interview for this comedy site and everybody in the
comments was like, she is so masculine and she is
so mean. And she sounds like a man and she

(18:43):
is so negative. And I mean, I was just talking,
like I'm starting. I was just like the sky's blue today. Yeah,
I was literally just talking, and I was like, let
me do a little case study. And then I looked
at the interview that you're referring to the style like
you interview that sponsored by Headspace, and I'm talking in
the same tonality, but the response was so different and

(19:03):
that Space is far more woman centric. Yes, and you
know you just realize, like space really yeah, huh, well,
because it registered for me, and I thought to myself,
it's interesting that she said she's aware of her tone.
I wonder because I have this issue um being in
the world as we all are. I know that I

(19:25):
can be a force, and when I'm pushed to my limit,
I can be very clear and direct. And it's always
why did you do that? But I'm like, I gave you.
I gave you ten chances, and this is the eleventh
time I gave you ten chances. So how do do
you feel bad when people come down on you for
the way? I sit with this guilt and I'm like why,

(19:49):
but but why use wrong? So how why? Why? What
is that about and how do you how do you
process that? Because we're not sociopaths, we don't want to
hurt feelings. That's why we don't want to hurt people's feelings.
In fact, we don't, like it's not intentional, like you're
not you're not intentionally trying to hurt somebody. But there's

(20:10):
also this other part of you that like, this is
how you get your point across. And so it's sometimes
I think the guilt feels like did I missfire? You know,
and then you have to like walk yourself back and
sometimes you did misfire, right, But sometimes it's like no call, Yeah, okay,
but we always pulse check, and I wonder why that

(20:31):
will stop, um, if at all, I don't think it'll stop.
I think also, you know, we're in a world, you
and I particularly where we're dealing with so many people,
and I think that's different. I think it's like just
the ratio of interactions that we have compared to other
folks does bear a different level of responsibility that you

(20:53):
put yourself under because most people, for what it's worth,
are dealing with folks in like the same folks around them,
So it's probably like the same coworkers, and then like
the same people in their family space. And then if
they are interacting like let's say they work in retail
or they work in a restaurant, right, they are interacting
with a lot of people, but like in a cursory way, right,

(21:15):
Like they can take an order and feed people and
they don't feel connected to that and be done. We're
in a business where we, for the most part, have
to legitimize every person we're dealing with. Yes, whether it's
whether it's on a business level or a fan level. Yeah,
everyone matters. Yeah. Yes, And you're taken so much and

(21:36):
you're taken so much, yes, And then I'm sure you
feel like this, and I'm like I don't feel like
talking today, I don't want to talk today, or I
don't want to be around people today. Like some days
you just got to turn off and rebuild, you, don't you.
I know you have that. I'm a cancer. So I
have that in the middle of a scenario, like I'll
be at a party and be like, oh, I'm done,

(21:58):
And then like the people who have awareness are like, oh,
a man is in her phone because I've checked out.
I checked out, and I may I may have a revitalization,
like I may resurrect like Jesus on the third day.
I might, you know, but I might not, And then
it's gonna be and irish ex it. Yeah, and I
and I don't And I don't care because you're entitled
to have that. I I want you to. I want

(22:20):
you to know we see you. And and even though
I know you, you always check your moral compass. I
do believe your voice is special and it is needed.
So even in those times where it may feel like
it's a lot, it's it's right, it's right, it's justified,
and you're moving. I also like, like I grew up

(22:43):
in a house of like volume. My mom is a
loud talker, okay, so I am also a loud talker.
Then I was a gymnast, so I was yelled at
all day. Then harsh life. Listen, that's harsh. They don't
play no. Then I went to theater, and that was

(23:05):
how our teacher taught in theater, Like you were just
yelled at. So it's also been like an actual undoing
of like learned behavior in realizing that like that's not
the most effective or even the best representative of myself right,

(23:26):
Like and I'm not gonna lie to you like I
would say that. There's like the passion level and then
there's like the okay, you're alloud, and I'm really always
constantly trying to work on like not going to the
year loud level, which I've also which being with a
man will force you to do because niggas ain't really
haven't that. Yeah, I want to hear it. I don't

(23:48):
want to hear I don't want to hear you talk
to all the things. Yeah, I'm with you, But to
your point, if I came at you like this and
you wasn't really hearing me, and then I came at
you like this again and they hearing me, this only
one way to go, right, Listen, you didn't ever tell
me because usually I'm gonna come like this first, and

(24:10):
I'm like, I try to be sweet though, like because
you already know. But anyway, whatever, I okay. So I
have to ask you this. This is so funny. I
um everybody smart, black and funny, smart, funny and black genius.
I was on it and didn't win the other day.
He told me, and you you're doing and you're taking

(24:30):
it on the road, and you've done this before, You've
been on the road before. What is Yeah, so what's
different this time than before prior to COVID. I don't
think there's anything necessarily different. I think we've added some
elements to the show. Um. We do like a whole
happy Birthday segment to the show. We are constantly adding
different songs to the show based on the games. We

(24:52):
are in Brooklyn on the twenty ninth, um So there's,
like I said earlier, there's an element of the show
on in the Brooklyn show where we're adding just having
folks come dress as their favorite character, black character or icon,
and you don't have to come dress as that. Um.
But we also we I've announced one of our black
spurts or that's our word for contestant, which is gonna
be method Man. Oh lord, I'm coming just to see

(25:14):
meth Man says, listen, when anyone who knows me knows,
I'm a Woo Tang fanatic, like kill it bees, I'm
the swam listening like a big big yeah. So does
anybody get to talk to him beside you? Because I
does anybody get to do in this place? And being
his presence beside you, he is too fine. It's really

(25:36):
it's really it's iconic level find this like you's know
what I'm saying. Man, he's nice, He's, oh my gosh,
the nicest, like just and consistent. Meth has been these
exact same person since I met him in like two
thousand and six, the same person and always just honestly,

(25:57):
I can say that for like the members of the
Woo that I know, like Ray Kwon, Ghosts, the Rizza,
like they're always very just like kind, respectful, like they've
never come at me sideways. A little story. So one
time when I had met the Rizza, he invited me
to come to an Oscar party and when I got

(26:17):
to the address, it was a hotel. Oh, And I
texted him and I was like, I'm not sure who
you think I am. I know what you think I'm about,
but I'm not gonna come to your hotel room to
watch the Oscars. And he called me. He's like, uh,

(26:40):
it's a penhouse. There's several people here on this one.
See the I get upstairs, it's like Erica Alexander, like
the whole Castle, the whole Tech Show. I'm like, hey, guys,
sorry about that. Yeah, I don't know what you think

(27:00):
this is, but I don't know why he learned that day.
He's like, come on in, people here, no one here,
No one's here to harm you. I don't have a
there's literally a buffet set up. Like I hate that.
I hate that. Okay, fine, I'm j Jack. But you

(27:23):
know what, Listen, I come from hip hop, like you
gotta let people know. You gotta let people know because
they will try it. I know we're not going anywhere.
I really do need your help. You can fast forward
through these commercials and then just come right back, okay,
because I need job to help me out. We got
more with the Manda Seals on the other side of
the break. Every champion and carry champions to be a champion,
a champion and carry champion and carry champion, A champion

(27:46):
and carry Champion and carry champion sports and entertainment, and
every champion and carry champions to be a champion, a
champion and carry champion. They go, Hey, everybody, welcome back

(28:07):
to Naked a Man to seeos. Let's do music. Because
I have said and you and I I'm not about
to make this all about people we know, but Kendrick
Carter told me you are arguably the most talented person.
She has ever met, which to me explains your need
to do so many different things at once because it
just comes naturally. This is what Kinder said. She was like, sings, Dan,

(28:29):
how is Kendra. She's doing good. She's doing really good
for me. Yeah, I'm And she talks about the time
y'all was friends walking to New York City streets hanging out.
She comes to you perform. Wait, can I just give
a big up to her? Real quick? Yes, I just
give a big up. Yeah when I'm. When I moved
to Los Angeles, I knew that I wanted my life

(28:51):
to be different. So that was one of the reasons
why I moved to Los Angeles. I was like, if
you want drastic change, you gotta make drastic moves. So
I moved across the nation from New York to Los Angeles.
And one of the things I wanted to change was
that I wanted to be a part of work that
had more value to it, because a lot of the
work that I was doing was a lot of pop
culture stuff that was kind of just like flash in
the pan, like you know, you say a little joke,

(29:12):
but it didn't have like actual like gravitas to it.
And I knew that I was gonna have to do
scripted television like that just felt like. I was like,
that's next in my path. But no one at my
agency would would would send me out on auditions. They
would not send me out on scripted auditions. They were like, no,
you're a digital talent. You're a digital talent. And so
I had to then go to my resources and I

(29:33):
hit up Kendrick Carter and I was like, is there
any way you can get me a meeting with the
scripted department at NBC And she was like, say less, done,
set it up. I went and met with them. My
agent hits me like, hey, did you just see a
meeting at NBC? Yes? I did, Yes, I did. Sure

(29:54):
did that. Y'all would not set me up with and
started that. Her allowing that like her making that happen
forced my agency to then send me out on auditions,
which is how I ended up auditioning for Insecure. The
wow wow, wow, wow wow wow. Does she know that story?

(30:16):
I don't think she does. Oh no, I gotta put
you guys on tax after this. Okay, that's powerful and
she but she's never This is one thing we both
love about her as someone who can recognize talent. She's
never I've never seen her off. She just knows. She's like, no,
a man, I can do it all. And so with
that being said, I don't know if a lot of
people knew you were in Flower Try you were poor
with and I don't know, I don't know if they

(30:38):
know that you replaced one of the members and went
on tour. You have such a not even considering that
you have a master's from Columbia, which is so hard
to get into period. Right, you had this true intellect,
then you have created this this this brand for yourself
and this showcase that you're taking on the road. Then
you're an actress. Then you're like, you can do it all.

(31:00):
Does that get cumbersome for you or confuse the vision? Um?
It's cumbersome because I what I'm not really good at
is marketing and like business strategy. Like I'm not a dummy,
so I can like create opportunities for myself to keep
things going. But I am not enterprising um in the

(31:24):
way that I see some of my peers be. UM.
And I'm not sure yet if that's a good or
I'm not sure yet if that's held me back or
if that's kept me sane. I Um, that's a fair
question because ultimately people are like, why aren't you you
know what I mean? Like, and yeah, I think there's

(31:45):
something that happens when you mix creativity with commerce, right,
like with capitalism, Like there's a piece of you that
you lose in that change. You said it earlier. You
are free thinkers. You don't have to worry about being
tied to a or a brand or what. You can
say what comes to your mind. So that's why it's authentic.
So like Bebbie Smith is always like a voice who

(32:08):
will just like poke her head in to be like,
keep going. Your path is different, keep going because because
sometimes you just think like am I doing what I'm
supposed to be doing? Should I have a certain level
of you know, at one point it felt like should

(32:28):
I have a certain level of fame? I don't feel
that way anymore because I really fame is like this
weird thing that I'm not really interested in. But what
I am interested in is options and being able to
have like the options to create without so many barriers
and so much convincing. Right, But you come to understand

(32:48):
that like the people who kind of fand away the
people who navigate that very deathly, they are they have
a different relationship to their art. So that's why so
many people have like a business person who's like their
partner or that works alongside them, who thinks that way,
because I'm the one who's like, okay, so what we
can do is all right, yes, okay, I want to

(33:09):
do a game show, and then it's got to be
like black history, but then it's also a sing along.
And then it's also you know, so like I got
you on that, I got you on that. But then
there's also the people who are like, well, why don't
you know sponsors yet? Yeah? And I'm like, oh, because
I don't really know how to do that same but

(33:31):
and I do, and I do understand the frustration of
someone being like you should already have that. You're just like,
it doesn't work that way. It just doesn't. I understand
what you're saying, but it doesn't. It's a different capacity.
How many times a day do you get why don't
you have your own show? Yo? Girl? I'm all like,
I don't know whoa and I started it with you
and normally now I receive it as that's a compliment.

(33:51):
You want mine it ain't hear me. You want to
hear chart to be like, but no before you're like, well,
because you ain't got your own show, you know what
I mean? Like are they giving out shows the black girls,
little black girls around the world. They should? They really should?
I really You had said earlier that you feel like
I would I should have like my own daily show,

(34:12):
and I feel like a lot of people are like,
a man, I should do the Daily Show. I would
not do the Daily Show for a number of reasons, right,
But one of them is like I would not want
to live in New York again for that, just like indefinitely.
But the other reason is because, like you said something
where you were like, you know, you like kind of
like wax poetic and philosophize on topics beyond like what

(34:33):
people are talking about. And it's like that that's the
show I would want, Like I don't want the show
where I'm telling you the news, Like I want the
show where you already know the news and I'm providing
and ideating and considering other things about that, which is
what I thought I was gonna get to do. What
the real yeah, you know, like just because it's like

(34:57):
when you have these topics. There's so much you can
say about like the fact, it's like these are the facts.
But then it's like how do you yes, yes, you
know what I mean, Like, how do you expound upon that?
How do you like make that relatable? How do you
apply that to like bigger concepts of our socialization, of patriarchy, etcetera, etcetera.
Like that's the stuff I'm interested in, Yeah, the teaching
of it all, because you are a professor. So yes, yeah,

(35:22):
that's also something Kindred used to call you. She said
she needs to go on and go ahead and just
be a professor. I don't know what she's doing. Thought
about it. I thought about it. I really liked when
I was I was trying to move to When I
was trying to move to l A, I was trying
to figure out how it was going to do it
because it seemed like such a BMS task, like the
money and then where are you gonna live? And then
the job. And I had become friends with um my sister,

(35:43):
Tommy Crump, who's an exec and it's to nice. So
Tommy is just that is my sister from another mister
and Tommy I just remember Tommy sitting a glass of
wine and being like, hmm, what did you get like
a PhD fellowship? I'm like that could pay for it.
And I was like the gay you sound just like
her too, though, right, you know, Tommy is Tommy is

(36:06):
part of my Uh, Tommy is a part of like
the character shaping that I did for Tiffany. Oh are
you kidding me? Yes? I did. She never told me
that she doesn't tell people because she's like, I don't
like it. Tiffany du Bois of Insecure is based on
my friend Tommy Crump, who is just as like Studio

(36:30):
corporate as she as she is Philly to the bone. Okay,
so she's both of those things. And then the other
part of my character shaping for Tiffany Dubui Insecure was
Shanta Moore in the Shante's Got a Man video that yes,
as I'm screaming yes, yes that yeah, and like Shanta

(36:55):
Moore like started following me, and I was just like,
oh my god, like the world are colliding. Wait a second.
She took a super wine and say why don't you
just get a PhD fellowship? That's exactly That's exactly what
she would say, Yeah, casual, why don't you just do that.
That's like when my mom, like in like two thousand
and four, just like turned to me casually on the
couch and was like, you know who, you should do

(37:17):
a song with Lenny Gravitz. Okay should I? Okay, let
me get him a ring. I think that's where the
defense that you would have around like people saying why
don't you have a show? That's where it comes from.
It's like this idea that you're like turning down shows. Yeah,
you know, you know, like like like there's just like

(37:38):
like you're It's like when people say like why don't
you have a man? As if there were so many
options given me like back, that used to blow my
mind when people say, like one, like why are we
acting as if we're like getting dropped off at good

(37:58):
Nigga Island and we're just like no, no, no, he's
too short, so he's too fine, Like that's not a
thing that's happening. Okay, it's good a man, listen, I
it's I. There has not been a charted course yet,
and I'm literally trying to find it. Like I talked

(38:18):
to my dude all the time about like where where
do you come from? Like where out h He's like,
it's just I'm one of one I would set apart
for you. I'm one of one set apart for you,
nobody else. I won't believe that because every time, every
time I see you, I'm just like, we're gonna get
her a boom. It's coming, it's coming, And my show

(38:39):
was coming, as is your show. It's coming. Here's the thing.
There's a large part of me that also just feels
like I've been a late bloomer in every facet of
my life. So like, why wouldn't I be a late
bloomer in like the show facet? Like why wouldn't I
like I was a late bloomer in like physical development,
I've been a late bloomer and even just like my

(39:00):
own sense of awareness and health and healing right, and
like I when I got with my partner, we were
together in college and then we like lived separate lives
and then we came back together. But I wouldn't have
been able to correct receive him, like literally six months earlier. Correct,

(39:21):
I wouldn't have Can I feel like work? Because you
were doing the work. I was like, in the thick
of the fucking work, I know about it. Yeah, that's
it's and it's hard, and you got to sit with
these uncomfortable as feelings and realizations of who you are
and just be like yes, yeah, yeah, you're like okay,
And it's all the clenting period because yes, we want

(39:43):
our our partner, Yes we want our show and it
is in due time. And I think the Daily Show
comment it's just about and and it's hard for people
to receive compliments. So just just just hear me. Oh
I receive it. I receive it. I totally because as
someone who sees everyone pop up with a show on air,
it's very in this world of our attention span is

(40:04):
like this, if someone is literally waiting to hear what
you have to say to the very end, it's very
important to know that your voice means a lot. It
may not. I'd rather have a super small dope following
instead of like thirty million people who don't even pay
attention to me quality quantity every single day. And so
it is. It is you are constantly top of mind

(40:27):
when people are talking about did you hear what Amana
said the other day about such and such? So that's new,
Like I did not really realize that, Like I genuinely
did not really realize that until we started going outside again.
Oh okay, because you know, we was in this pandemic
and we were all in the house. Yeah, I'm saying.
So I was be on my phone because I'm in
a house. Okay, Like I'm just I'm in a house.
So I got a thought, let me share it. I'm

(40:49):
in a house. Hey. Yeah. And and if I'm being honest,
I think the internet connection kind of helped me main
saying in the isolation of the quarantine and the first
two years of the pandemic, because I didn't feel safe
to go out and tour, I didn't feel safe to

(41:10):
go out and like keep doing the art thing that
I was doing. And so it was like this last
thread of like, Okay, I can still be expressive and
get something back, right. And so then when we started
going outside again, people would be coming up to me,
like our peers would be coming up to me and saying, like, girl,
I've been following you. Throw out this whole in this pandemic.
You got me through this pandemic. I'm like, for real.

(41:32):
And that was something I kind of just didn't I
just wasn't truly aware of, and it heightened Mike. It
heightened my consciousness about like shifting. I realized I had
to shift my focus that I've been really kind of

(41:52):
following the normal track of like I need to get
these executives to care about me. I need to get
this industry to get to care about me. And I realized, like, no,
what you need to do is preserve the connection you
have with the audience that cares about you, and you
need to put your energy into that, into figuring out
how to do that, which is why I decided, like,
let me go on tour. And so I've been on

(42:13):
tour with the Black Outside Again Tour since Joe Lot
since June, and it's been it's been of a journey.
It's been a bit of a journey because one of
my partners along the way in the tour, like didn't
really show up in the way that I would have
liked them too, and so it caused my tickets to
not move in the way that they normally do and
I and there was this worry by them that like, oh, well,

(42:37):
you shouldn't do shows where you only sold thirty percent
of the house because it's going to be embarrassing for you. Yeah,
and let me tell you. They could have not been
more wrong, because when you are folks like us who
like people aren't like fans of their supporters of a

(42:59):
different Yeah, it's a different energy, like yeah, they're showing up.
It's like every person equals six people, yeah, saying like
they're showing up with full one Like I'm here. So
even if even if I'm in a venue that's supposed
to have two thousand people and there's only seven hundred
people there, it feels five thousand because they rock what

(43:21):
you heavy, you know what I mean? And you're right
thank out for coming out. Yeah, no, they have your back.
It is it is Honestly, I think something that you said,
the pandemic gave you and yes you did give it back.
But when you're sought after for opinion, much like you
know our brother shar, people want to hear what you
have to say. It's part of the culture. You're a
voice of the culture. And as it's happening, you don't

(43:43):
know it's happening, but it's happening in real time. Then
I can name twenty thirty people, but it's just happening
in real time, and it could be a conversation at
the dinner table about what you said about what's going
on with the city council here in La, which I'm
I mean, you got me, had me fired up. Just
the videos with you not looking and just making faces
are hilarious. So listen. Someone commented that video was reposted,

(44:08):
and someone in the comments said, you know what upsets
me about this is these videos where someone is reacting
to what other people said and judging them as if
they're perfect. Amanda Seale's better hope no videos or recordings
leak of her. And I thought that was interesting, and

(44:30):
I was like, I'm sure that I have absolutely said
shit that people will take and run with, right, No,
nothing like that, but I'm sure, let me just disclaimer that.
But that being said, I'm like my response to that was,
I think what's odd to me is that you because
he was like, it feels like this is for entertainment value,

(44:51):
and as it was odd to me is that you
feel that like bolstering an entertainment aspect to the revelation
of information that people should about. It is like that
that somehow devalues the information that they're being shown. And
in my opinion, I feel like what I've been really
fortunate to figure out is how to use my entertainment

(45:14):
value to create education and make it edutainment. So like
that situation with the woman in La City Council and
the other two members and them talking very disparagingly about
Indigenous people in Mexico as well as about this black child, etc.
Like that is information that folks need to know because

(45:34):
these are people who are in legislative like and like
rulemaking and lawmaking positions, and if they are holding biases
against the people in their constituency, then they are not
the people they should be in that job. And if
I got to make a video reacting to make to

(45:55):
a grandize or amplify that, then so be it. Then
so be it. Because you you make it so simple
and so plain. Then you're like, I am outraged. You
mean to tell me we here we are all marginalized
black and brown folks and so we're all against each other.
So the blacks are with the blacks and the white
sor what the are we doing? What is the point? Well,
you know, the thing is is that not all brown

(46:15):
folks are brown folks. So like there's you know, within
the Latin X or Hispanic community, you know, you have
afro Latino Afro Latin X people and then you have
you know, indigenous people. But then you have the white
folks who are the descendants of slaves. And you know,
I think they call they call the mestizo um but
they if they consider themselves adjacent to whiteness, and they're like,

(46:39):
we're gonna be I say, I would say, like they
think they're gonna be the next Italians, Like yeah, why
don't you because Italians were not considered white. And then
it was like, ah, we need more folks, we need
more folks. Y'all could be white, y'all could be like white,
whiteness is a Whiteness is a moving goalpost that only consist,
that only contains um. It's power by numbers, right. So

(47:04):
that's why, like when you see this whole rov Wade thing,
and there's a theory that this has to do with
there being fewer white babies born, like that completely supports that,
like there has to be it's a I saw this
brother speaking the other day. I'm so mad. I don't
have his name in my mind right now, but he
was saying, racism is a team sport. He's like, as
a team sport. And so if you have the deeper bench.

(47:25):
You can fight the fight like you can keep yourself
on top. And I look at black folks all the
time and say, you know, we miss we have missed
the boat on realizing the incredible depth and power that
we have simply just in numbers, in numbers and sticking together.
And we have no concept. We don't we have no
concept of the power that we have. And we love

(47:46):
to say we're not a monolith. And I'm like, but
we could stand to be a little bit more. We could,
we could be a little more one I and and
whatever I can started talking about that all day. Girl
gives fired up on your people. But I love yeah,
I love you. Every champion and carry champions to be
a champion, a champion, and carry champion, and carry champion,
A champion and carry champion and carry champion sports and

(48:10):
entertainment can nake it work? Verry champion and carry champions,
to be a champion, a champion, they carry champion. They
got a champion, they carry champion, they carry champions. Entertainment.
I do say this with my understanding of your entertainment.

(48:33):
Do you ever feel because I used to say this
all the time. You talk every day on TV Bound
Bound and says it's just gonna happen. Do you ever
feel that you want to not be in the game
after a bad day on social? Do you ever feel
like I'm packing it up? Y'a, don't get no more
in my wisdom, you go, you have you ever felt

(48:54):
that way? Even when like even let's talk about Insecure,
You're like, you do know this is a character, like
I am just you know, I was like, what is
going on? What I couldn't even understand? I couldn't understand it.
I could not understand it. That would have made me irritated.
Do you know what I mean? To the point where
I'm been like I'm tapping off. I'm tapping off a

(49:15):
social I don't like you guys, this is I am
not in AKA. This is a character that I am playing.
If you guys could give me some grace, I have
felt I have felt that way. Like sometimes it just
feels like, oh, like this is just an overabundance of
ignorance that I can't take, or this is an overabundance
of negativity that I can't take. I mean, I've told

(49:37):
this story before, Like I remember when I had I
had two situations happen in twenty nineteen, where like I
was just drag baby, okay, dow wow through the inter
nets and why we can't laugh at it now, do you?

(49:59):
Guys don't want to through the internet like that is
some real just visualize that. That's how would be, like
literally dog walk me through the Internet. And folks don't
understand that because folks will say things like I don't
know why you care that people who don't know you
are talking about you, and it's like that's why because
they're just like you don't even know me. Like so,

(50:22):
but I was being dog walked through this Internet, and
there was it was a scenario that had happened, and
I thought like, okay, we had gotten through it, and
then it got re visited like someone just decided, like
on a Tuesday at two o'clock, like, you know what,
let me just put this back in the atmosphere. And
I started getting the tags and getting the dms, and

(50:46):
I just like I remember I was about to interview
comedian Sam Jay on my podcast, and so she was
at the house and I literally just like fell like
I like crumbled to my knees and was just like
I'm done, like I'm just done. Like it like actually
broke me because because the thing, because the thing that

(51:08):
I was being attacked for was for something that I
was wholeheartedly justified in doing and and it needed to happen.
And it was like, how could I be so misunderstood
in this situation? Like like what does that like? And

(51:29):
so what happens is you reach a point of like
if this is how people react to me moving at
my most authentic and genuine, then like how the funck
could I continue to move in this space? I have
to go right, And I feel like for a lot
of people, that's what suicide really is about. It's like

(51:51):
if this is what it's gonna be, if I continue
to be me, then I just can't continue to be um.
And I felt I felt that the four too. Yeah,
but but as it related to the business, like that
was I just said and Sam had to like, yeah,
it was a it was a Terry McMillan film. Like
Sam had to like pick me up off the ground

(52:11):
and be like, no, sister, this is You've got to
keep going, you know. And I'm just like, oh gosh,
like no, let him brant you, you know. And then
it's like a title Perry stage play. You know, you're
just like to have like but you know in the

(52:38):
more in the more, like in the more travel sizes
there because we're and Sam is strong. That's a strong girl. Yeah,
I love yea. She said, let me pick you up
physically and emotionally. You need these n everybody you know

(52:58):
you need that. You need that. People always ask me like, oh,
like what's your advice and someone getting in this business
and I'm like, make sure you have people around you
who reminds you of who you are on the days
this business makes you forget a man that is a
by the way, that is a word for your ass,
and then it just rejuvenates you. And she gave you
what you needed to keep going. I think, I think
you're built for this. But then when you're in the
middle of being dog walk on the internet and you're

(53:22):
always like surprised, like like I know, it's always most random,
You're like, wait, what you know? And it'll it'll creep
up on you. So many times, y'all. I will like
send a tweet and then go about my life or
like like something, and then this will go about my
life and then like you know, a few hours later,
look at my phone, like, oh, I don't know if

(53:43):
you remember. There was this white lady who like she
like sent a tweet before she took off on a
flight to South Africa and she said something like I'm
going she said something like hella racist, and she was
like an exec for some big company. And then she
and then she turned her phone off and like took
off on the on the plight and when she landed
fourteen hours later, she had like lost her job, like

(54:05):
she had been like everything had been blown up, and
I'm just like damn, Like that's how it would be sometimes,
she said out a tweet I will never forget when
I was sitting in a Paris airport and I sent
out a tweet that said, if you have Jay's and
Nike suits and you don't have a passport, then you're losing.
And then I like put my phone away and went

(54:27):
out with my life. And by the time I got
to WiFi again, I was the hated, Like what was
what was the outrage for the alleged outrage um The
alleged outrage was that I was policing how black people
spend their money. Didn't say anything about black people in
the tweet. I was policing how black people spend their money.

(54:49):
I was being elitist. I was trying to force people
to travel who don't want to travel. I was talking
about this on Candy Brus's podcast the other day, well,
her show the other day, and I was like, I
never forget. There was a tweet that said, Amanda Seals
is an elitist, petty bourgeoisie who is passport shaming the

(55:13):
disenfranchised black community. Wow, I'm doing all of that. Wow, okay,
just by a tweet, I did all that. You you're
and that's the part where you're just like, you don't
even know me, what are you talking about? Oh? Someone
told me the other day that by re sharing an
al Ja zero news story about something about like a

(55:38):
announced Zerra's news story about something going on in Ethiopia,
they said that I was empowering the Ethiopian government. And
I was like, all right, ma'am, I don't have that
kind of power. Yeah, well she but yes, that's the
beauty of it all though. That's what I'm saying. That's
how people see you, and it's interesting, and that doesn't

(56:00):
mean change who you are. It means that that just
comes with the territory of having the ear right and
being a voice within our culture right, but it does
mean changing like what you decide to like step into
I feel yeah, yeah, it depends well because you know
Jameale and I'd be like, did Jamel, Like I don't
even feel like getting into it with the today, you
know what I mean? Like Jamel's mom. Jamel's mom was

(56:22):
on my flight back from Detroit the other day. Yeah,
she told her. She was like, well, you know, my
daughter is Jamel Hill and like, did you told Jamil that?
Did you tell I was texting her? I was like, yo, yeah,
momind me and she was like, oh she told the
whole plane and she's my mom. That is so funny.

(56:44):
Well let me tell you. I don't think her mom
realized that I like know her know her though, like
I was. She was like, oh you know my daughter
was like yeah, she's like what's your name? A man?
And she was like, well, thank you for your support.
And I was like, you know, like I was like that,
like like I know, like a texting her like look,
I said, yeah, not only do I support her, but
that's like my friend's real like yeah, oh you do

(57:06):
know my daughter? Oh Okay, no, um, so I do
I do know, I do know if you want to
feel the headache, because no matter what, when you're in
the middle of it, it still takes a lot from
you and I and I think, and I've said this before,
I'm I'm in a space where I like to watch
people evolve and grow and I've seen you do that.
So don't be kind and gentle to yourself. Don't take
that for granted, because it's it's beautiful and it's special.

(57:31):
Thank you, Carrie Champs. What are you about to say? No?
Because people I see people all the time will be like,
you're so much like happier now you know, you're just
not as angry. It's like, damn, can a bitch get loved?
Like what like, yeah, and let me learn it? And yes,

(57:51):
love helps if you've been learning. And that's and and
I'm watching that legislation. Yeah, we're allowed to do that.
We are allowed to do that. So don't don't get
that part of the process. I don't believe in the whole, like, oh,
a leopard doesn't change its spots, like people are who
they are, Like I've never believed that. I think that's
a cop out and I feel like there's a lot
of Um, there's a lot of tropes that humans like

(58:14):
kind of just repeat but they don't really know the
source of So I started reading this book. I can't
remember the name of it right now, but I started
reading this book that basically seeks to reassess what is
human nature. And they talk about how like so much
of what we consider to be human nature, like how
we say life isn't fair, how we say like, you know,

(58:37):
like how we like people kind of say like greed
is a natural human condition. Like they were like, you know,
these are things that were basically like just written by
white people who had the power to write correct in
like the seventeen hundreds, and then it just got passed
down a path down the path, down, the path down,

(58:58):
and like it's not a fact. You do know that? Yeah,
oh wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow. Yeah.
That's that's all we have. You know. We have the
power to define and redefine how we want to show up.
And um, I think a lot of times we don't
realize that, well, particularly for women, it is defined like
this is how you're supposed to show up, and then

(59:19):
you start to realize. But I don't wanna. Yeah, I
don't want to do that. I don't want to show
don't I don't want to show up that way like
I want to wear skirts and also give niggas a dad?
Can I do both? Can I do? Why? And by
the way, that's that is the nature of what I
would say about your talent. You do it all, and
you do it the way you want to do it,
and you can and you can thank you and no

(59:43):
one can take that from you. You can and you will.
So I support you one dred percent where can ever you? Okay?
So in a Manda verse, will they find toward dates
because I know you said you're doing Yeah, you can
go to Amanda Sales dot com. The twenty ninth is
October in Brooklyn. I will be in Philly doing stand
up on November twelfth. You can catch me in Oakland
after that and then I'm closing out the tour in

(01:00:03):
Chicago December, second, third, and fourth. So get your tickets
at Amanda seals dot com. And if you want to
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(01:00:26):
of Amanda. You could subscribe to the Amanda Verse, and
when you get an annual membership, you get a shirt
that says Seals Squad that we're part of it, designed
by mow By my hand. I drew it myself. So
I love the monetization of it all. Don't give out
these musings for free. Because you've given out, You're given

(01:00:46):
out knowledge. It should be paid for. It should be
it should be premium, premium. I mean, I'm honestly like
working to be just not working harder, but working. Yeah. Yeah,
girl joined joint Jones, right, yes, ma'am. I mean, I'm

(01:01:07):
I'm hoping to announce something really soon that I think
people will really be happy about it. I felt like
you were gonna be doing something soon, and I was like,
I wonder, well she says something. Now. I don't know anything,
but I just felt like it. I was like, it's
just a matter of time. I just you know, my
waiting on those paperwork, Okay, same, same, all right, So
I guess wed guys were both waiting on our paperwork.
So everybody gets show. You get a show, get a show.

(01:01:29):
We all get a shot. Smart, funny and black. I actually,
as mentioned in the podcast, happened to do it and
gott be badly. I was bad on my black culture,
my black pop culture. You'll forgive me. Got Bomony Jones.
Shout out to Bomony Jones. But she's on tour. Check
her out. She told you she was gonna be in

(01:01:50):
Atlanta on the fifteenth, although this will have already aired,
but she's also in Porkling on the twenty night. And
then she's also on tour. She's doing She's at a
couple of comedy clubs in Phillies. You gotta go to
amandiverse dot com Amanda Seals dot com. Check it out.
Support her support looks like, I appreciate what you do
because I know it's hard to do what you do

(01:02:10):
and if you could do it differently, you would. And honestly,
when I meet people like that, who I know it
is in there being to be who they are. They're
not doing it for effect, for fame, for attention. It
is just who they are. And then that other part
comes right that that entertainment business side of it will come,
but it is who she is and I am more

(01:02:33):
than willing to support her. I ask you guys to
do the same. That was my helpboat cracking again and
I guess I gotta get in yoga. Next week we're
back with a new edition of Naked