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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Welcome everyone.

Speaker 4 (00:09):
It is day four of Live in the Shy Democratic
National Convention. We are so excited to be here at
this history making moment, and we couldn't be more thrilled
again to have our dear brother and friend Leonard Michelvey.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Club. We are doing Native lampod in coordination with.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
The Breakfast Club, and we are live here in Chicago,
Illinois for the Democratic National Convention.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Can be damn before.

Speaker 6 (00:41):
I said it's crazy to meet Angela, I could be
damn da mannic before we go on, and just calm.

Speaker 7 (00:45):
Down, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes, welcome, happy to see y'all.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
If it makes any difference, I'm just trying to make
sure I take some of this stuff off your place.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
And we love you, and we love you.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I appreciation today though, Angela. It's our final day and
it's a historic night. So I have been telling you
guys all day that I hope we can take a
moment to take in history what this is. Yes, and
we're like fifty years from now, we're going to remember
that we were together on this night at this moment.
So I just want to say I love you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Guys speaking of history TIFFs, this is such a remarkable point.
As you said that, the Central Park five went up
on stage with Reverend Al Sharpton, and what a harrowing
moment to start talking about what they've been through at
the hands of Donald Trump, knowing that they are trying
to support and endorse a prosecutor who hopefully we can
go toe to toe with Donald Trump. We know she can,

(01:41):
but we have the rest of the country.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
You will see it.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Today's theme for the convention is for our future, and
today we have a powerful and packed show. We are
going to be moving through guests. We got a symbol.
We're not going to tell y'all what it is yesterday,
but we are going to do something to let folks
know that it is time to go.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
But we still love you.

Speaker 7 (02:05):
Well.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
We won't be shooing anybody off. That's that's been that's
been teaching.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Trying to shoot people in future, trying.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
To those vicious humors. I deny them.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
We should also just quickly acknowledge our colors.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah, uh, there's suffrage.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
White you will notice that in the arena tonight that
you'll see a lot of coach well, he's wearing blush.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
It's a version of why.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
Y'all wearing suffrage? White who's suffering?

Speaker 8 (02:30):
Well?

Speaker 7 (02:30):
Suffrage movement.

Speaker 9 (02:35):
About you.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Sometimes you're too smart to be saying, oh he was.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
He was just being funny for the listener. He was
giving us a jokey joke.

Speaker 10 (02:44):
So he was giving us a jokey joke.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
You better hotel.

Speaker 7 (02:48):
But explain it though, explain for the listeners.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Y Tiff is our resident historian. Tif So.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Women did not have the right to vote until nineteen
nineteen when the or nineteen twenty, forgive me, when women's
rights were passed, when they gained the rights to vote. However,
there's an asterisk fair because that only gave white white
women the right to vote. And the interesting thing about that,
of course, as where we know Phyllis Wheatley's famous saying,

(03:14):
ain't I a woman? And Elizabeth Stadie Canton was fighting
against having black men and black people in general getting
the right to vote because they felt white women were
more important, and so a part of that movement women
were white. They marched in the streets wearing white. But
whenever I hear somebody celebrate that achievement, I'm always sure

(03:34):
to remind them that is when white women got the
right to vote, not us. And that is an interesting
thing that you asked that question, Charlottagne, because tonight, on
this historic night, we talked about this all week, the
divide that has existed on the side of women with
how white women have voted. And I have to say

(03:54):
here at the convention, it does seem to be unity.
It does seem to be that white women consider this
their win. Two uh. And so we'll see how that
trans translates at the ballot box come November.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
But it's worth acknowledging that the advocacy around getting to
the nineteenth Amendment did include, even if not embraced by
white women.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Included in Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
The sisters of Delta Sigma Theta's already incorporated, who again
bought their voting chairs and in lockstep marched with white women.
Even when they did not want black women included on
that line, they joined it and included in.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
The that's gonna be a theme tonight right one of
the Okay, yes.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
All the women are wearing white tonight, right, Well.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think yes and men in solidarity with Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, some women are wearing their green colors, so you
have a lot of pink and green. Of course, Madame
Vice President's a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha already incorporated.
You'll see a lot of red and white for Delta, Sigma, Theta,
blue and white for Zeta b beta, and yellow and
blue for Sigma Gamma roll. So it's an array of
colors of white and the divine nine color wearing the colors.

(05:03):
I think it's just the women who are wearing their.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
So you also know tonight one of the things that
has been talked about quite frequently is the war going
on in Gaza, and there have been a number of
folks rightfully so, requesting for an opportunity to be heard,
to be seen on the convention stage and tonight joining
us to talk to us about this really significant movement

(05:32):
around Palestine. Is Georgia State Representative Rua Raman, and we
wanted to invite you on first to share a portion
of your speech that you were going to share had
you been given the opportunity to address the platform at
the DNC. So we'd love for you to share that
and talk to you a little bit.

Speaker 11 (05:48):
Yeah, so the speech is actually very short. We were
not very greedy and are ask unfortunately, you know, that's
just the way things go.

Speaker 7 (05:56):
How time did you ask for?

Speaker 11 (05:58):
I mean originally we asked for five minutes and we
got back and we're told keep it down to two.
So we did, you know, we tried to work in
good faith. The whole point was to bridge the gap
between what we were seeing between voters and the party.
We're not here to party poop on anyone's party. We
really just wanted to be able to walk out of
here again. We came with a policy ask, but we
said maybe we can at least get a symbol, and
unfortunately didn't get that.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Well, I'm thankful for you to be here, and you know,
I have to say when we were leaving last night
and saw and heard the cries of the protesters, it
really hit home. My dear friends. An Haze Coats wrote
a wonderful piece and vanity fair. I hope everybody reads it.
But we are honored to give you this platform tonight
and would love to hear your speech.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 11 (06:39):
My name is Rue Roman and I'm honored to be
the first Palestinian elected to public office in the Great
State of Georgia and the first Palestinian to ever speak
at the Democratic National Convention. My story begins in a
small village near Jerusalem called Suba, where my dad's family
is from. My mom's roots traced back to a Khalil
or Hebron. My parents, born in Jordan, brought us to

(07:00):
Georgia when I was eight, where I now live with
my wonderful husband and our sweet pets. Growing up, my
grandfather and I shared a special bond. He was my
partner in chief, whether it was sneaking me sweets from
the bodega or slipping a twenty into my pocket with
that familiar wink and a smile.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
He was my rock.

Speaker 11 (07:17):
But he passed away a few years ago, never seeing
or any part of Palestine again.

Speaker 9 (07:23):
Now a day goes by that.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I don't miss him.

Speaker 11 (07:26):
This past year has been especially hard, as we've been
moral witnesses to the massacres in Ruzza. I've thought of him,
wondering if this was the pain he knew too well.
When we watched Palestinian's displays from one end of the
Azzda strip to the other, I wanted to ask him
how he find the strength to walk all those miles
decades ago and leave everything behind. But in this pain,

(07:46):
I've also witnessed something profound, a beautiful, multi faith, multi racial,
and multi generational coalition rising from despair within our Democratic Party.
For three hundred and twenty days, we've stood together, demanding
to enforce our law on friend and foe alike, to
reach a ceasefire and the killing of Palestinians, free all
the Israelian Palestinian hostages, and to begin the difficult work

(08:09):
of building a path to collective peace and safety. That
is why we are here, members of this Democratic Party,
committed to equal rights and dignity. For all, what we
do here echoes around the world. They'll say that it's
how it's always been, that nothing can change. But remember
Fanie lou Hamer shunned for her courage. Fanny lu Hamer

(08:31):
shunned for her courage, yet she paved the way for
an integrated Democratic Party. Her legacy lives on and it's
her example we follow. But we can't do it alone.
This historic moment is full of promise, but only if
we stand together. Our party's greatest strength has always been
our ability to unite. Some see that as a weakness.
But it's time we.

Speaker 9 (08:50):
Flex that strength.

Speaker 11 (08:52):
Let's commit to each other to electing Vice President Harris
and defeating Donald Trump, who uses my identity as a
Palestinian as a slur. Let's fight for the policies long overdue,
from restoring access to abortions, to ensuring a living wage,
to demanding an end to reckless wars and a seized
fire and gazza. And to those who doubt us, to
the cynics and the naysayers, I say, yes we can. Yes,

(09:13):
we can be a democratic party that prioritizes funding our
schools and hospitals, not for endless wars, that fights for
in America, that belongs to all of us, black, brown,
and white, Jews and Palestinians, all of us, like my
grandfather taught me.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Together.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
That's beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
So much for sharing that.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I want to just say you already mentioned and we've
talked about it this week, to this historic occasion of
this being the actual day that Fanny lou Hamer said
that she was sick and tired of being sick and tired.
And when Tiff and Andrew and I were talking earlier
about making sure that we gave space for this really
significant issue. She is the inspiration behind that. So we
couldn't thank you enough. We're so grateful for your time tonight.

Speaker 9 (09:56):
We really thank you.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
It's our pleasure.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Uh and so Nott, Wow, I'm glad she.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Said what she said in her speece too, because you know,
that's something I've always been wondering, like, what are the
conversations like amongst you know, people who are pro Palestine
in regards to if Trump gets back in office.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
But clearly it's not.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
An option, right, Yeah, exactly, it's really not an option.
And you know one of the things that we have
to remember is even when we dissent, that is one
of the most powerful things about a democracy.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Disagreement is allowed.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
We have to ensure that people have that spaciousness to
say their peace, and we have to figure out a
way to find our humanity and tap into that.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Angela.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I don't know if the Convention vetted those remarks, but
they typically do get the opportunity to read remarks of
speakers that hit that podium. But there was nothing irrational,
there was nothing offensive. There was nothing stated in those
remarks that I don't believe that any of those delegates
assembled in that in that room right now would not

(10:59):
have wholeheartedly agreed to. In fact, would have probably gone
even further. I just got to say, we've got to
treat our brothers and sisters from Palestine not like they
are an not as if they are an appendage of
this party, but as if they run through the bloodstream
of who we are. Their values are our values, and
they deserve to have them spoken from the highest and

(11:22):
most seen and most heard platform right now in this nation,
and right now, that's right here.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
We've been talking about history, making history, and how it's
important to stand on the shoulders of those history makers.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
And we've been.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Joined by a legend, congress Woman Barbara Ly from California's
twelfth congressional district. She is a mentor. She is a
woman that we absolutely look up to. She got a
torch passed to her by Shirley Chisholm. And I know
you passed the torch to Kamala Harris when you sit
up and said I'm going to endorse her first in
twenty twenty. So we are thrilled to be joined by you,

(11:54):
and we know you are busy, so thank you congresswoman,
you're here.

Speaker 9 (11:58):
Thanks, thanks so.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Much, Angela.

Speaker 9 (11:59):
You know this is uh.

Speaker 8 (12:01):
I don't know how.

Speaker 9 (12:05):
I've been there.

Speaker 12 (12:06):
I still get stars.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
I'm yes, Congress you.

Speaker 13 (12:15):
I've been to every every convention except one since nineteen
seventy two. And uh, this is a bookend convention for me.
The first convention was when I was a delegate for
Shirley Chisholm. Of course, Willie Brown then said give me
back my delegation for the McGovern delegates. And now here
we have common House and I share that because it's

(12:36):
pretty busy for me, you know, convention and I'm a convention.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Officer this year.

Speaker 9 (12:41):
Yes, and so I'm just like having a good time
with working.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, we know you, and we wanted to ensure what
you were joined pretty quickly by a candidate, Latifa Simon,
who is actually the person you're passing the proverbial torch
to in your congressional district. So we wanted to ensure
you had this moment in the midst of all the
fun you're having put all the work.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Thanks.

Speaker 13 (13:03):
Let me just say, Latifa, just like Vice President Kamala Harris,
she's prepared, she's ready, she's experienced, and she knows exactly
what she's doing and how to take the twelfth Congressional
District to the next level. And so I'm really proud
of right. She'll tell you I taught a class at
Mills College. She was my smartest teap of my smartest student.

(13:25):
So now this baton is in good hands and she
runs this next lap of the race.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
Tug as woman Lee, did you have a envision a
time like this? Did you ever see something like this
being possible?

Speaker 14 (13:36):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (13:36):
Yes, in nineteen seventy two, I saw it because I
saw Shirley Chisholm fought. I saw and watch Fanny lou
Hamer from Afar, and I saw all of these black women,
all of these women of colors, struggling.

Speaker 9 (13:51):
Through all the challenges.

Speaker 13 (13:52):
And then I saw Vice President Harris in twenty nineteen
taking that baton, saying that she was going to run
for president. And when she dropped out, I was on
a train going from DC to New York.

Speaker 9 (14:05):
And it was money. So we got to get this
money out of politics.

Speaker 13 (14:07):
But I told her then, I said, don't worry, You're
gonna be president one day.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Wow, Wow, I love it.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
So Congressman, I'm so happy that you're joining us because
one thing I've always loved and respected about you is
you will have the unapologetic way of standing and moving
in your conviction. I remember being a young journalist getting
my uh just starting out at CNN, and this was
during right after nine to eleven, and you, of course

(14:35):
were known as the sole member in the House of
Representatives to vote against the au m F, which, to
your point, would have given this government free access to
engage our military and foreign foreign adversaries. Can you talk
a bit about what it means, because I think we're

(14:56):
seeing a very different Kamala Harris on the campaign trail now,
and she appears to be moving in her convictions as well.
Can you talk a bit about what it meant to
be the sole person and stand in your own truth
and righteousness to make sure that you were on the
right side of history. More than almost twenty five years later.

Speaker 13 (15:15):
That authorization to use military force was a sixty word authorization,
overly broad. All it said, in essence was any president
can go to war forever. Now the Constitution requires Congress
to declare war.

Speaker 12 (15:29):
Yeah, But to turn it over.

Speaker 13 (15:32):
Then President Bush and subsequent presidents was wrong.

Speaker 9 (15:37):
First of all, constitutionally.

Speaker 13 (15:39):
But if you believe in looking at alternatives to go
into war, then you do not just automatically use the
trigger the military option. You always tried development, diplomacy, peaceful
solutions first. You do not just do that the military.
Aswer My dad was in the military.

Speaker 15 (16:00):
Out of that.

Speaker 13 (16:01):
My father was the first one to call me. He
retired to lieutenant colonel. He said, you were right. Do
not give any.

Speaker 9 (16:07):
President the authority to send our young men and women
into work and not know what you're doing.

Speaker 13 (16:13):
So, you know, could you face a lot of death, thrust,
a lot of hassles, and it was hard, but you
know the scriptures.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
Ephesian said, stand.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Right, Thank you, congresswoman.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
If I could ask, because there are a lot of
folks who want to follow in your model. Obviously we've
got Latifa, who who is blazing amazing trail as an
activist organizer right where she is, tell us just very quickly,
how do you deepen into that value set? If there
was advice that you would give to folks, how do
you ground?

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Where do you ground? When do you know where to
make that stand?

Speaker 9 (16:43):
You have to know yourself.

Speaker 13 (16:44):
You have to know what you believe in and Shirley
Chisholm said to me, She said, you know, you've got
to shake things up.

Speaker 9 (16:50):
She said, these rules weren't made for you, they were
made for me. You got to get in there, not
go along to get along.

Speaker 13 (16:56):
You get in there and you disrupt every policy in
every system that's oppressive, this discriminatory, this racist, that's sexist,
this wrong, and then you build something new.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
And that's what you do, Congress, and that's what.

Speaker 9 (17:10):
Latifa has done her life.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
We definitely want to get Latifa in. But you had
a heart out two minutes ago.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
We are not trying to get cussed down.

Speaker 13 (17:19):
He doesn't know I'm back here because I realized when
I got there, I ran off.

Speaker 9 (17:27):
In another ten minutes.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
Ask Congresswoman one more question. I just want to say that.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
You know, we got to in Latifa in too.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
This is a question for la being that black woman
have always been to backborne of the Democratic Party. Does
this feel like you're finally getting your just do having
the VP at the top of the ticket.

Speaker 16 (17:43):
First of all, I grew up born and raised in
the Bay Area with Congresswoman Barbarly as our north star politically,
so you know, for us, you know, she ran so
we could walk. We had a politic of freedom and justice.
You would turn on Channel two k t v U
in the morning and see Barbara Lee when I was
a child watching this woman on the floor, even before

(18:04):
you gave that consequential vote.

Speaker 12 (18:07):
And so for me to be running.

Speaker 16 (18:08):
This race following in your footsteps, first of all, there's
no shoe.

Speaker 12 (18:12):
There's no foot that could fill the shoe with Barbara Lee.
I want to be very clear from.

Speaker 16 (18:18):
Barbaraly has literally a degree in diplomacy, not just degree
from the academics, but doing the work for fifty years,
allocating for women and children, being an internationalist, literally building
as she climbs.

Speaker 12 (18:33):
There are so many of mes.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Out there in the Bay Area.

Speaker 16 (18:36):
But when Barbara told me that she was going to
run for the United States siner I said, ma'am, mayam
might I And she, on my primary nights passed me
a littoral baton and we've.

Speaker 12 (18:49):
Won that race, Rightenouslee.

Speaker 16 (18:51):
Big times me get to the place where I could
say my full time job is going to be working
for poor women and children, And for to say I
talked about Kamala last night, but let me tell you something.
Being raised in the Bay area. Being understand the Bay Area.
I understand Oakland. The black folks there, they came through

(19:12):
the great migration, right they are from the South, were Country,
and we knew we were trying to leave Jim Crow
and we found it in the Bay Area. We thank
God for Ron Dellums and we thank God for Barbara Lee.
I'm gonna do you right, miss Leech, like.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Latifa has already done me right.

Speaker 13 (19:29):
First of all, because I never would have run for
the Senate knowing that money in politics was going to
be a challenge, and knowing all the dynamics, as you know,
but I knew that worst case there, Latifa was to
carry this baton.

Speaker 12 (19:44):
Ron has for me.

Speaker 13 (19:44):
The baton I passed Lativah the batona, and I'm forging ahead.
And let me just say it's really important now for
you to be there, Lauti because since okay, Northern California,
I'm the first and only black woman every elected to Congress.
We have a Northern California delegation of all white people,

(20:09):
nobody that looks like myself.

Speaker 9 (20:11):
Can you imagine having a seat at that table.

Speaker 13 (20:14):
And having to push push, push every single day. And
Latifa is the one to do that I was the
first and only woman north of Los Angeles. You know,
this glet to the California Assembly and Senate. And you
know when you look back and I work for Ron
dollas one of the first chief of staffs black women
on Capitol Hill, that's like a long time that I've

(20:35):
had to push, push, push, But you know what, like
Shirley Chisholm.

Speaker 9 (20:39):
Hey, here's Latifa.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
I really I love y'all.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
I'm so glad that we have Oakland representing tonight, the
same night that Kamala Harris will be speaking. I'm gonna
get I'm gonna get congress woman lead back to work, Lativa.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
We are definitely gonna have you back. Thank you.

Speaker 17 (20:56):
Don't tell Sean he speaks.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Well again, guys, we have a whole audience out here
before us, and as we're escorting a member of Congress
off stage, we people here.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
Yes, yes, And I saw your Gotti walk through.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Did I was?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
You know some of these people. I'm not as great
as with pop culture as I am with politics, but
I saw somebody walking through shirtless.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
That wasn't that.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I don't know who he was person, Yeah, I don't.
I don't know who that was, but as the members,
the members are being I do want to let our
audience at home, no, please stay tuned because we have
amazing guests coming really, including Ellie Mustall, one of your
favorites that you see a lot on MSNBC. We have

(22:07):
other elected representatives. Joining cion is a family reunion, so
joining us now, I'm really excited to bring to the
show Congresswoman Lisa Blunt Rochester. She is Delawyer's member of Congress.
And what makes it so amazing is she is poised

(22:27):
to become a thank you, she's poised to become a
black woman in the Senate. Now, when Senator Ben Senator
Kamala Harris was there, she was it was lonely because
she was the only black woman in the Senate. And
now we're poised to have potentially two in the Senate. You,
of course, and Angela also Brooks, who is running for

(22:50):
Senate out of Maryland. So congress Woman, so I'm gonna
call you senator because let's just speak into it. Yes, yes,
but I want to afford you your respect because you
have to be Senator Lisa Rochester. So we're so happy
to have you Angela has been talking about having you
on all day, so I'm let tossed the mike to
her to let her ask the first question.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, you didn't need to do that, but I'm grateful.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
You know.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
The thing that's funny about this moment is you guys
just talked about it being a family union.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
It really is. Y'all are my family.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
She is my family too, And I will say the
thing that we talk about the most, Can I.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Tell him go ahead, fashion and make up.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Right now?

Speaker 7 (23:32):
And I love a casual, comfortable.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
You because it was so important.

Speaker 14 (23:38):
Literally, Angela was trying to help me because I had
to do my speech up on the stage and you know,
we're mailing stuff and everything. Ended up wearing something I
already had in my closet.

Speaker 9 (23:48):
Is that what you did?

Speaker 18 (23:49):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
It was something that was comfortable.

Speaker 14 (23:53):
And then tonight, like right before I got on the plane,
they were like, we're gonna wear white.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I said, Nobody said.

Speaker 14 (24:00):
Who this suit I wore on my sixtieth birthday, my
daughter sixty ware.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Girl sixty two went sixty two today this year.

Speaker 14 (24:10):
But I had it and I said, we're gonna put
this on and put on some sneakers so that I could.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
Be comfortable yet very fresh, very fresh.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I love that you so. First of all, I love
that you said you were sixty two because it made
me think of when Donald Trump was talking about President
Alex Harris and he said, well, apparently she's sixty. I
thought she was a lot younger. I think this is
a time where America is going to learn a lot
more about black women on how we age. Right, Well,

(24:39):
they gonna see a lot more because I would not
have guessed that you were sixty two at all.

Speaker 14 (24:44):
This past year, I got the best title I have
ever had, not Secretary.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Of Labor and I see O the Urban League, none
of that stuff. Grandmother.

Speaker 14 (24:54):
So I'm fighting for reproductive freedom because my granddaughter is
here because of IVF.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
So for me, this is an important time.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, all right, give us a sense of the race
so far. How has it been. I mean, obviously, you're
a congressman from people love you everywhere. I mean, you
don't have to be in your state to know it.
By the way, your work speaks for itself, and it
speaks beyond the borders of any state. Give us what
you're feeling. How do you feel about the race, what's
the prognosis. We already know you're going we claiming the thing.

Speaker 14 (25:26):
I am glad people are claiming it. But and y'all know,
I'm a person of faith. I believe that faith, you know, basically,
faith without works is dead. And so for me, one
of the things that is probably the biggest challenge is
that a lot of people sleep on Delaware. They think, oh,
it's a blue state, but it's only three counties and

(25:46):
they vote blue, purple, and red. We literally are urban, suburban, rural,
and coastal, and so those farmers in that part of
the state a lot of times they're not looking at
us and just being a Republican, you're going to get
forty percent of the vote in my state.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
So yeah, jump.

Speaker 14 (26:04):
So last time, my opponent had no staff. It was
him and his girlfriend running around the state.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
They had no.

Speaker 14 (26:12):
Platform, they had no money until Dark Money came in
at the very end and did an ad about me dancing,
because y'all know I love to dance.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I loved I'm in the Beehive.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
But he showed.

Speaker 14 (26:25):
A video of me dancing and they covered up who
I was dancing with.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
It was John Lewis before he died Wow.

Speaker 14 (26:32):
And so that guy with nothing got forty four percent
of the vote.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (26:37):
And so for us, we want people to understand, don't
sleep on Delaware. We got to get the turnout. And
that's true for Kamala and Tim as well. Turnout is everything, show,
it's everything. When we turn out, we win. But people
have to connect their vote with their life.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
So for me in.

Speaker 14 (26:56):
Delaware, we've got these unincorporated areas that have clean drinking water.

Speaker 12 (27:02):
I mean, this is not the nineteen twenties.

Speaker 14 (27:04):
Or forties or the sixties. This is the two thousands.
And so for me to bring clean drinking water to
those communities, that is the kind of work we do.
Maternal mortality we know, as black women, you know we're
three four times likely to die, and so to be
able to do the work on maternal mortality and menopause.

Speaker 12 (27:25):
And jobs, jobs, job, jobs, I said.

Speaker 14 (27:27):
If I had another middle name, it'd be Lisa Blunt Jobs, Rochester.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
I love.

Speaker 14 (27:32):
I love the economy and jobs and building wealth.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
And that's why my speech yesterday.

Speaker 14 (27:38):
About Bright Hope was about entrepreneurs and growing black and
brown businesses as well as growing our strong communities. So
I just want people to not sleep on Delaware. We
are a very moderate state.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
And I'm so happy you.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Brought up about water insecurity. I think a lot of
people don't realize they're over one hundred and forty million
people in this country without access to clean drinking water
in this in these United States, and most of those
people are people of color. So that's a crucial issue.
And I think it speaks to why Delaware matters. Even
if you don't live there, but have you in the
Senate would certainly helped tilt the scale for innumerable.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Oh yeah, well we need black representation in the Senate too,
beyond Delawary.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Right, absolutely, this is very true.

Speaker 14 (28:23):
I mean for me, the other thing is democracy sounds
like some you know, ambiguous thing. But for somebody like
me who was trapped up in the gallery on January
sixth when that insurrection broke out, like I felt and
saw and heard how close we were to losing it.

(28:46):
And so, you know, Jim Clyburn said, everybody says this
is the most important election.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
He said, this isn't the most important. It's the most consequential.

Speaker 14 (28:55):
The consequences of this election for the next decades or
general rations it, you know, So for me, I recommitted
to this work after that insurrection, and so I'm fighting
for my seat.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
I'm fighting to.

Speaker 14 (29:11):
Flip the house hold, the Senate and get Kamala Harris
and Tim Walls into the white How are you nervous.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
About people accepting election results?

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Oh, let me tell you. I forgot.

Speaker 14 (29:22):
I asked somebody for the stats because we have not
just doubled or tripled the number of lawyers that we
are going to have on hand for this election, because
we know they're going to try to challenge it. If
they win, they're going to challenges steal it. Still, I'll say,
I'll say that we know well, speaking of incredible, incredible, incredible.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Hello, we have Senate candidate Angela Ulsobrooks joining us. Now
we're going to ask you to put it on your
headphones and and get situated. And you got some fans Van.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
She's run Maryland.

Speaker 19 (30:04):
Absolutely Okay, that's a personal friend I know.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Takes his fan off the bag. Welcome.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
One thing I love to ask you both while you
sit here is how do you feel about tonight? This
is history in the making, not just for Kamala Harris.
I know you've been a longtime supporter, a part of
the initial transition, the you know, the even the VP
Vedding team, so you've been there a long time. He's
a personal friend of Joe Biden's. How does this feel
for you all tonight?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yes, as absolutely incredible. You know what, the electricity in
this building crazy? I think is it is crazy?

Speaker 3 (30:51):
But you know what, it is well deserved.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
This is a person, and let's just say this, who
deserves so much the moment that she's in. A person
who has served honorably as district attorney, attorney general, senator,
vice president. She has served our country so honorably over
these years, and she deserves this excitement, and so do we.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Y'all deserve the excite we deserve.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
As a country.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
We deserve as a country to have a leader who
inspires all of us cross generationally, from the youngest to
the oldest.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
We deserve this moment.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, well, I was saying, you deserve it too, as
the woman who is about to join the ranks of
the United States Senate God Willing, we're claiming it on
this stage. However, your own experience as an elected official,
people who believe in you, who trust you, who count
on your service as having advanced their lives in Maryland

(31:44):
and in Baltimore and in the Greater area. I just
want to know how you're feeling about the state of
the race and what do you need. And I'd love
to hear also before we get out of what you need.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
You know what, I feel really good about the race.
This has been a hard fought race over the last
year and a half. We started in a primary with
an opponent who spent more than sixty five million dollars
of his own money to compete in race. And you
know what, and the voters deserve all the credit that
they were able, nonetheless to hear a positive vision for

(32:14):
our state and for our country that resonated. I'm the nominee,
and we've continued working. We've built a coalition across the
state that I know will show up on election day
because they know like I do, that this election is
about the kind of state that we deserve to build
for our kids and grandkids.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
We're not accepting anything less.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
And you know, I talked about this a little earlier today,
but I want our kids not to live on the margins,
but to be able to know that they can achieve
their wildest trains. And this is what this is really
about for so many of us, and so what we
need is Lottie, Dottie and everybody to.

Speaker 8 (32:48):
Come out of the election day.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Let me just tell you something.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
When the Democrats show up, and I know that they will,
We're going to win up and down the ballot across
this country. We're also going to elect the super bad
Lisa Blunt Rochester from Delaware. My sister sitting here and
this Senate has never seen two African American women on
the floor of the Senate.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
They at the same time that they should.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
And you know what in this year, like you said,
God willing, Yes, God will.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
So really quick.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
And Angela, I hope you can stay with us, Lisa,
so we do not get ever cussed out by your staff.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Let you go.

Speaker 20 (33:31):
You You don't.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Know they know.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I've been waiting for this moment. I was like, how
are we gonna make this happen?

Speaker 14 (33:38):
Thank you and first love you again, you know, like
to be with some of my good friends. I was
just telling them when Tiffany's book came out, I center
a selfie with me. I mean, I just I'm so
honored to be and with we are going to be
calling each other sister Senator, I am just so honored

(34:01):
and and and just I'm just you know the theme
of my talk last night was bright Hope, the name
of the church my grandmother attended for seventy years in Philadelphia.
And this moment demands it. And bright Hope isn't always happy.
Bright Hope is having that expectation even when you can't
see it. And so the fact that I call sometimes

(34:24):
I call my soon to be hopefully since the Senator DaVita,
because she was like David with Goliath.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
She's slayed that day.

Speaker 14 (34:33):
And so I'm so thankful for the platforms that you
provide as well and educating us.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
And even when it's tough Loveve you just say that, and.

Speaker 14 (34:44):
Probably I can leave on that, but even when it's
tough love, we are greatly appreciated and I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Thank you so much, And.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
We have at least one more question for you. We
know you have to run as well to Nigea Ben,
I didn't have heard of you.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
I like the message that both of them are delivering,
because you know, I think after this everybody really does
have to get to work, because you know, this is
a coronation, but the big win comes in the fall,
and that win's not gonna happen without the work.

Speaker 7 (35:10):
So I like that.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
You know, y'all are both scressing that everybody has to
get to work.

Speaker 12 (35:14):
Yeah, we got to get to work.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I'm gonna ask you a quick question. My mother is
a resident of Maryland, and so she's thrilled to be
able to vote for you. One thing I think is
so important for our viewers and listeners to hear. You're
running against former Republican or current Republican former governor Larry Hogan.
You know, something like colleague co host Andrew always says,
is we have to stop calling it the Republican Party

(35:36):
because it is now the Maga Party. It's one and
the same. He has said that he you know what,
he's been ambiguous about his answers on how he would move.
But we have not seen a Republican in the Senate
buck this unhinged former president. What would you say to
people who are on the fence about who they're going
to vote for, considering the danger that exists on the

(35:58):
other side. Yeah, thank you for that.

Speaker 18 (36:00):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
So you said he's been ambiguous. Let me tell you
what has not been ambiguous. His actions.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yes, He's a person, first of all, who was selected
by Mitch McConnell after he spent months and months saying
he was uninterested in the Senate and then said, oh,
you know what, Mitch McConnell convinced me to get into
the race. We know this is the same Mitch McConnell
who refused President Obama seat, stole the seat, and refused
to give President Obama the opportunity to appoint Merrick Garland

(36:26):
and set us up for this crazy Supreme Court that
we have in place right now. And so what Larry
Hogan says about being ambiguous, his actions tell us everything
we need to know. He vetoed abortion care legislation in
the state, and then when it was overridden, he refused
to release the funding until Governor Moore came into office.
This is the same guy who didn't support paid in
family medical leave. He's the same guy who also vetoed

(36:49):
legislation to have a waiting period for guns, knowing that
our children right now are dying. The number one way
our kids are slaughtered in America are with guns, not
by car accident or by illness. And so there's nothing
ambiguous about the way that he has moved and behaved,
and so in this day, to bless his heart, he
waited till he was sixty eight and a half years
old to become pro choice.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
It's not credible. None of it's credible.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
And we know that he may maybe he's a nice man,
but he's a Republican through and through, and he's a
part of that party now that if we gave them
the majority, we'll control the agenda for our country, and
it is controlled by Donald Trump, who by the way,
endorsed him, and not because they love each other, but
because they share a goal. They want to have this
majority so they can take our country backwards, and we're

(37:34):
not having you. Let's get a I can't wait to
see you. I'm the next wom with black women called.
I'm so excited that even when you're not asking for anything,
you show up.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
So I appreciate that too, since I see.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
But thank you for showing up, and thank all of
you for having me today. Listen less rock and roll,
and I agree with the work. We have to work
seven days a week until this is done. We have
seventy four days.

Speaker 21 (37:57):
What does the governor say?

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Seventy four days and a wake up before Thank you
so much.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Thank you, absolutely man.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
She ready, y'all absolutely ready, And I just love it.
I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Well, I just I love the question you asked Tiffany
at the end there, because they you know, they unfortunately
like us to believe that quote unquote moderate means that
when they're getting they're gonna have an ear for a
potential Democratic president when it comes to to to making
things happen, and it's a it's a mythology. They are
walking lock step. And if if Trump gets in there

(38:31):
and he's got a Republican Senate, they're gonna move a
a a throwback agenda that we can't afford.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (38:45):
So okay, now we have internet sensation. Noah was taken,
and Noah was taking us, joining us today after tearing
a grown man to shreds yesterday at the convention, tell
us what happened.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (39:03):
I saw Mike Lindale and I asked him a respectful
and quick question. But he got mad and acted like
the big bad wolf and decided to take it personally.
He started to get all up in my face, you know.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Was taking twelve. He got a big old man, got
in a big twelve space. I wish no, no, no,
I'm sure you would tell us what happened after that
before the swinging Yeah.

Speaker 22 (39:32):
And then I asked him a few questions he couldn't
even respond to. He had no real answer whatsoever except
for his personal grievances. I ended up fact checking him later.
Everything he said was completely false and never happened.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
What was the question?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
You remember?

Speaker 18 (39:47):
Question to him?

Speaker 22 (39:48):
I said, why are you denying the results of a
completely fair and free election?

Speaker 7 (39:52):
Okay?

Speaker 22 (39:53):
And he started naming these people with the names and
the fancy names, but he didn't give me a last name,
and I couldn't. All he said was the first name.
He said, I didn't want to give their public name
out there. If you're an elected official, your name should
be out there, right, especially if you're representing me in
my state of Georgia, you I should know your name, right.
So he didn't want to provide any of that, so

(40:14):
it was almost impossible to fact chet.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
So future governor of Georgia, what got you into politics?

Speaker 7 (40:21):
Young man?

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Stacey Abrams, who just walked by us, was.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
Energized by her campaign.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Energized by her campaign. I love that.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Where do you go to school, homeschool or yo, you
got a great teacher who.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Camera taking pictures A proud no. I want to say
that you have done what so many of the mainstream
media have failed to do. You asked the poignant questions.
I saw the video when you demanded that he cite
his sources uh and held him accountable. So I'm so
impressed with you. What what do you I know Charlottage
has has spoken into that you will be the governor.
I'd like to speak that over you as well. Is

(41:00):
there something other ambitions that you have in your life?

Speaker 5 (41:03):
Well?

Speaker 22 (41:04):
Oh yeah, I would love to continue to be able
to promote the Democratic Party and all of their accomplishments.
But other than that, I want to continue doing what
I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
Does it hurt you that you can't vote yet? That
six years away from being able to vote, I.

Speaker 22 (41:19):
Can't encourage folks to vote. So that's enough for me.
I can one thing you can't do. You can do
when you can't vote. You can walk in the polls
with people. So I can walk into the polls of
hundreds of family members, and I that it counts just as.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Much if you could, If you could vote in this
election this fall, tell me who you'd be voting ABS,
so you're not gonna let him as.

Speaker 22 (41:40):
Yeah, absolutely, Kamala Harris all the way. Give me three
reasons why? Three reasons why? First of all, her policy platform.
You're gonna ask policy platform, Hu.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Ahead, I want to I want to get platform.

Speaker 22 (41:55):
How she's not Donald Trump and she's just has a
great way of anize in the country and her policy
platform is critical to that.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Thank you, I do We might we can do that
the next time we go in to do a live show.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Joined that we're.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Gonna go to You're joining us, brother, You're gonna come back.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
We want everybody to see you.

Speaker 7 (42:18):
Gonna help You might need.

Speaker 23 (42:20):
A podcast or something choice media, Like he breaks things
down so concise and so simple, and I think that's
what people need.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I love Would you do a podcast? Knowing I would
love to do a podcast?

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Okay, we are asked, mama, because you can't make your
own decisions yet, We're gonna get your.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
To me before you sign that contract. I'll make sure
you get that.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
I like that. I like that. Thank you so much
for joining us.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
Who is some of your favorite young content creators in
the same spaces as you.

Speaker 22 (42:55):
Oh, okay, Isaiah and Martin to a too real let
me think a Livia Juliana, A lot of great people
that attended here today.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Okay, I love that.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
You're amazing. Really, our energy is infectious.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
One more question. I'm sorry, I just I'm dying to
know this.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Who has been your favorite speaker so far at the convention?

Speaker 22 (43:15):
And why Auntie Michelle or Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden?
My favorite Nancy who was first out of Joe Biden?

Speaker 12 (43:25):
Really?

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (43:26):
Tell me what Joe all of.

Speaker 22 (43:27):
Joe's speech, he went for an out y'all sleepy Joe.
Y'all sleepy Joe for an hour?

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (43:33):
It's the first time we're going to disagree all week,
all week.

Speaker 22 (43:36):
Yes, Joe, y'all sleepy Joe went on for an hour
and thirty minutes. Y'all who called them sleepy? Joe went
on for an hour because.

Speaker 7 (43:47):
He stayed awake.

Speaker 22 (43:48):
If you go on for hour thirty minutes, how are
you sleepy?

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Joe?

Speaker 6 (44:00):
Michelle body, I don't even know how long Michelle was.

Speaker 21 (44:03):
Michelle can go second place.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
No, man, I get I'm with that.

Speaker 7 (44:09):
I said the man was up.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Well, let me take this. No, No, here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
We are absolutely not finished with you. We hope we
can sign you for a podcast, but for now we're
gonna let you go because you got some work to do.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah, thank you, appreciate wish, thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
You wish you well, Yes, you do.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
We love you.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Oh my goodness, Noah was fantastic.

Speaker 9 (44:30):
I'm blown away, Jasmine.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Y Yeah, okay, Well would you like to introduce her?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Introducer?

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Introducer the next.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Off camera while Jasmin makes her way. Who he's talking
about is Congressoman Jasmine Crockett of the Texas Congressional District thirty.
She is coming up as soon as she finishes taking
pictures with.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
No It's captivating. She had to say, she did this lovely, honey,
the congressman where they want to be, wherever you want
to be.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Just come on and put your head's bedazzled.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
We are thrilled to have joining us Congressman a Jasmine
Crocket and.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Introduced while you were walking up. How are you doing?

Speaker 21 (45:18):
I'm doing all right?

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Great?

Speaker 5 (45:20):
So you met Noah at the feet.

Speaker 24 (45:21):
Of this here, no I met him at the White House. Yeah,
you know about this life, He's everything.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Absolutely tell us how you prepared for Monday night, Congresswoman.

Speaker 7 (45:33):
Oh, there was a phenomenal speech.

Speaker 21 (45:35):
There was a lot of drama, solf thank you so much.

Speaker 24 (45:37):
So I won't go into all that it took, but
what I will say is that in the moments that
I was supposed to be getting on stage, it's the
first time I've ever gotten nervous.

Speaker 21 (45:48):
So for two.

Speaker 24 (45:49):
Hours, I was actually getting physically sick. I had to
take medication and everything, and so I was just nervous
that I would let her down. And I did not
want to let her down. And then, as we are
making history today, what most people don't realize is that
Kamala Harris was making history for me at the same time.

(46:09):
There's never been a black woman freshman that has been
allowed to grace the stage of the DNC ever until me,
and so it was a huge honor. And at the
same time, while I didn't want to let her down,
I also didn't want to foreclose on opportunities for those
coming behind me. And I knew that there were a
lot of people that were probably like, ain't no way

(46:30):
you're gonna let the wild Wind do it.

Speaker 21 (46:31):
Ain't no way, y'all, that's.

Speaker 7 (46:33):
The one we want to see.

Speaker 21 (46:35):
Oh man.

Speaker 24 (46:36):
And so you know, as it relates to kind of
the process, I felt like they was trying to sanitize
my speech a little bit. I was like, ah, ah,
spite's gotta stay.

Speaker 18 (46:47):
Well.

Speaker 24 (46:47):
The alliteration came out at least five times. It was
pulled out five times, and then I put it back
in and I say, let me tell you something, this
is who I am.

Speaker 21 (46:56):
This is what this speech is gonna be.

Speaker 24 (46:58):
Because the only reason anybody would want to see me
on the stage, it ain't to see me, it's to
actually hear me be me. And so it was a
bit of a fight. But you know, y'all know I
stand my ground.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Sure, I appreciate you for doing that.

Speaker 24 (47:11):
And I and and again. Because I stood my ground,
I also was nervous because then it's like, well, you
can't mess up, you can't fumbling a bag, because you
really said so strong and confidently in it. And I
am thankful that it was received seemingly.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Where you are far from fumbling anything.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
By the way, anytime i've ever i've ever heard you,
and i've i've spoken at these conventions before, I know
the exact process you were talking about, the edits that
get made and the fact that you have to be
I mean literally strong and as uh Angela says all
the time, tan toes deep uh and what or down down.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
To what I'm not in all that. So when I
heard you say, I was.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Like, that's what it is a white man, I'm going
to go back.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
Guess what you can stay off.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
But I tell them to you why And the point
is The point is is that first of all, you're
not the wild one, You're not the crazy one.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
You are the truth teller.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Hey, and people can't always handle the truth, so they
like to throw all these terms out that make us
look different and strange and even in some cases undeserving
of the space. Not only did you deserve it, you
owned it, you delivered, You did the just you were
supposed to do. And guess what, I believe you bought
a lot more people's eyes to this campaign, to what

(48:37):
this is about and why do they need to get
out their vote and perform right, perform their duty, their
civic duty. So a congress woman, I said, Jazz Congresswoman,
I couldn't thank you enough, and I just want to
encourage you every day of the week to continue to
be that right every congress deserves a truth seller.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
Every Congress, at least one.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Can ask the question. I you know, we open the
show tonight with the Georgia State Rep of Palaestinian descent
speaking about the protests and the plight that's happening. Something
has made me a bit uncomfortable with this. I'm so
excited and I've been so full of celebration with having
a me and us pois to lead this country, and

(49:19):
then I was torn as we drove past protesters last night,
and it just feels like this push and pull because
there's black women. Much like the CBC, we are the
constiess of the country, like the CBC is noted as
being in the conscious of the Congress. For the people
out there who feel some of that same torment with

(49:40):
who want to stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people,
and it seems like the world has turned their back
on them. I'm just curious what your thoughts are given
the division, all the diversity we've seen, and yet this
division remains so pronounced here.

Speaker 24 (49:52):
Yeah, so I'm gonna say that it's not an either or,
it's an and yes, you know, the issue that I
have is that I think that we need to go
ahead and be real about the fact that anyone that
is uncomfortable with suffering is actually just being human.

Speaker 21 (50:08):
That is what it means to be human.

Speaker 24 (50:10):
And I think that we should all, you know, hug
each other and say, listen, this is what we should
be doing.

Speaker 25 (50:15):
In a.

Speaker 21 (50:20):
Hey, Dave, no, no, no.

Speaker 24 (50:23):
So I think that we should say it is the
right thing to do. It is the morally right thing
to do to care about suffering, not just as it
relates to the Palestinians, but suffering anywhere. Because we can
talk about the Suday and we can talk about Congo,
we can talk about the streets in the United States.
We should all be compassionate about suffering in general. At
the same time, this is going to come down to

(50:46):
two people. Somebody going to be the president of the
United States. It's either going to be the guy or
it's going to be the woman. And right now I
can tell you that it has to be the woman
for me, and and that doesn't mean that you are
going to agree with her on everything.

Speaker 21 (50:59):
I think that this was.

Speaker 24 (51:00):
Elaborated in a way by Michelle Obama. You know, we
continuously seek perfection. One of the things that I used
to say on the trail all the time, specifically when
I was out there for President Biden, is that there
is no perfection walking on this earth. And I would
definitely say it when I went to the Black Church,
and I would say, we always want our preachers and
our politicians to be perfect, and neither one will be.

(51:21):
You will always be let down, But we are supposed
to fight for a more perfect union. And fighting for
a more perfect union means that you continuously engage in
conversation and communication and you move the needle. Let me
tell you something, There was a point in time that
nobody would have ever imagined that Joe Biden would do
anything on student loan debt forgiveness.

Speaker 21 (51:42):
And who led the way on it. It was Joe Biden.

Speaker 24 (51:44):
But guess what, there were people that were pulling him
and telling him that that was the right thing to do.
So I'm just saying, I need them to understand that
we can't sit this out because the suffering that we
see and Gaza is only going to get worse. Trump
ends up being the one that ends up in position
because let me tell you, they have been on the

(52:06):
house floor and they have specifically said just go nukem
that is what they said, and you won't find that
on the news. You got to go to c Span
and you can see them talking about the people of Gaza.
I can tell you that we had three packages that
we voted on. The first package was suggest send money
over to Israel and defund the IRS. The second package

(52:27):
will suggest send money to Israel. The third package sent
money to Israel, but it also sent aid to Gaza,
it sent aid to Haiti, it sent aid to Taiwan.
It did more to make sure that we could also
help those that are suffering. These people don't care about
people that are suffering. It's the same reason that they
are only looking to do tax breaks for people that

(52:47):
are at the upper one percent, and they don't care
about the people that need six dollars a day to eat.
I'm trying to tell y'all that we don't need to
vote against our interests. And it doesn't mean that either
one of the administrations will be great on everything that
you care about. But it is your job to push
an administration that at least somewhat closely aligns with their

(53:08):
goals and push them closer to the finish line more perfect.

Speaker 7 (53:13):
That's why.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (53:19):
Okay, you know what I mean.

Speaker 26 (53:25):
Thank you so much, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 7 (53:36):
All right, we got another guest pulling up.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Go ahead, angelw No, you go ahead.

Speaker 14 (53:39):
You.

Speaker 7 (53:42):
Go, my guy.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
What's the word?

Speaker 7 (53:48):
Brother? How are you man?

Speaker 5 (53:49):
What's happening?

Speaker 10 (53:50):
What's happening with Shapiro?

Speaker 7 (53:55):
Man? Governor jos Shapiro is here. I loved your theme
of freedom last Yeah. I loved your theme of freedom
last night.

Speaker 6 (54:04):
And you know, one question that I've been asking everyone
in light of the Supreme Court recent ruling is the
fact we know so many Republican officials refuse the start
a fighter results.

Speaker 7 (54:12):
Of the election.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
Do you believe our democracy is healthy enough to have
a free and fair election come November?

Speaker 27 (54:16):
I do because look, last time, we had a free
and fair, safe and secure election in Pennsylvania and elsewhere,
and our courts held the judges when it was up
to them, did do the right thing. But make no mistake,
there are serious threats out there. It's one of the
reasons why nine months ago, as a governor of Pennsylvania,
which I think everybigery is kind of the ultimate swing

(54:36):
state here, we put together an election protection task force,
led by my Secretary of the Kamwal, who oversees elections
importantly a Republican because I think the administration of elections
is non partisan. Obviously, parties and exercise decide who you
want to be for. But we want everyone in Pennsylvania
to know that their ballot can be cast, their ballot

(54:57):
will be counted. And I don't care what Donald Trump
does to try and throw out a vote. We'll be
ready to go to court.

Speaker 7 (55:04):
To protect it.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
And I can I say, I'm going to ask you.

Speaker 8 (55:07):
You can say whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
It is a night of celebration, but I'm gonna tell
you the truth. I'm gonna take you into our text messages.
Don't be mad, len Art. We were both surprised that
you were not selected as the VP.

Speaker 7 (55:21):
I was disappointed.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I was gonna say that next.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
And I want to know what it takes emotionally to
get past that. When you when you know you're qualified,
when you know your friends are qualified, to when you're
standing shoulder shoulder with them and you know you got
to carry on in the fight. How do you move
past something like that. I mean, we are a little
biased as we got to sit with you. I remember
interviewing y' I was like he has it. There's like
an in factor. Andrew has the in factor running for

(55:47):
governor in Florida, like.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
And he's not done if I got anything to do
with it.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
But but yes, I just want to know what it
takes for you to move past that.

Speaker 27 (55:56):
Well, first off, I hope you saw me that Tuesday
night and Philly when Kamala Harrison Tim Mal's came out.
I think I made clear that I'm all in for them,
and I hope I also made clear that I'm more
than at peace with this. And let me explain I
said during that process, which I was really humbled and
honored to be a part of, that This was, at

(56:19):
the end of the day, a deeply personal decision for
the Vice President. I'll tell you what, it was also
a deeply personal decision for me. And you got to
make sure that you're in the right situation, ultimately most
importantly for her, she's the boss, but also making sure
that you're in the best position where you can serve,
where you can chart your course, where you can have
an impact on people every day. And at the end

(56:41):
of the day, I think she made an outstanding pick
in Tim Walls. He's going to serve her well in
that role, and I look forward to continue to do
everything I can as governor of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
It's a compliment to you, though, because people were saying, like,
he's not a number two, he's a number one.

Speaker 7 (56:54):
So he let me.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
So speaking to number one because that was my follow up.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
There's been a lot of messy talk about when Kamala
Harrison Tim Walls win in twenty twenty four, that would
prevent you from challenging them in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Would you say like I would do that.

Speaker 8 (57:08):
Listen, now I play that game. They're gonna win.

Speaker 27 (57:11):
I'm gonna do everything I can help, and I'm gonna
do everything I can help make sure they win again.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
So I love that.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
But putting the noise the rest, I think is mission critical.
So I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yeah, Governor. I I'm curious, well, because I was trying
to think what was the last time that we had
a broker convention at the DNC, So I was wonder
where that speculation would come from. But Governor, the question
I want to ask, I know that you enjoyed being
governor Pennsylvania and are dedicated. I'm sorry I said three
weeks ago, what was three weeks ago, Joe Biden stepped down.
Oh sorry, my bad, Governor. I know you enjoyed being governor.

(57:43):
You've been clear that you enjoy being governor of Pennsylvania. However,
there is a speculation about what role you might take
when Kamala Harris and Tim Wallas when the White House.
Should you join her administration. I'm curious what your advice
to her would be when it comes to what we're
seeing happening in Israel and Gaza.

Speaker 27 (58:03):
Let me be clear, I love being governor Pennsylvania. I'm
going to continue to be Governor of Pennsylvania, period, hard
styles and a sentence full stop. If you're asking me
about Israel, I'm happy to give you my thoughts on that,
but ultimately that policy is going to be set by
the Harris Walls administration with whoever she has hopefully negotiating
a peace in the Middle East. Look, I'll just share

(58:25):
with my views because I think a lot of this.
You know, people like to project onto other people what
they think.

Speaker 8 (58:32):
Here's what I know.

Speaker 27 (58:33):
On October seventh, a terrorist group Hamas, by the way,
designated terrorist group by the United States of America, stormed
into a sovereign nation, killed people at a music festival,
killed people in their homes, ripped away babies and family,
so over two hundred of them, and took them hostage.
Back in Gaza, there were Americans taken hostage as well.

(58:58):
The world should be unified in their outrage about that,
and my heart breaks for what happened in Israel over
the ensuing months. My heart also breaks for the death
and destruction that we are seeing in Gaza every single day.
Those babies in Gaza, they don't deserve to die, but
yet we are here in this situation of warfare that

(59:21):
is claiming far too many innocent lives. What needs to
happen is a return of the hostages, and then what
needs to happen is an end of the violence.

Speaker 8 (59:31):
And then what my hope has.

Speaker 27 (59:32):
Been for years, long before October seventh, is that we
can renew meaningful conversations to have a two state solution
Palestinians and Israelis living peacefully side by side.

Speaker 8 (59:45):
Now, listen all of what I just said. There's some
nuance in that. I get that.

Speaker 27 (59:50):
Here's where there can be absolutely no nuance when it
comes to all of us joining forces and condemning anti
Semitism condemning Islamo phobe, condemning all forms of hatred and
bigotry that should unify us as Americans be against that
hatred and bigotry.

Speaker 8 (01:00:07):
And that is where I stand.

Speaker 27 (01:00:09):
I'm someone who's hopeful for peace, and the quickest way
we can get toward a lasting conversation on peace is
by being tolerant of one another, getting these hostages home
and ending the violence.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Definitely want to get the hostages home, for sure, I
think everyone agrees on that. But given the over forty
thousand many children included in that number of civilian lives
that have been casualties of.

Speaker 8 (01:00:32):
Dis Jobe acknowledge, yeah, pain, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I'm curious what you might say to the people outside
protesting who want to support this administration and they're just
they want their humanity scene. What would your message to
them be tonight?

Speaker 27 (01:00:43):
I would say you not only have a First Amendment
right to protest, one that as the Attorney General Pennsylvania
is the governor of Pennsylvania, I stand up and protect every day.
I'd say that, you know, I think I understand your pain.

Speaker 8 (01:00:57):
I think I understand your pain.

Speaker 27 (01:01:00):
It's hard to fully understand someone's pain until you've walked
in their shoes. But I have met with so many
Muslim Americans, Palestinian Christians, people in Pennsylvania who have family
in Guys.

Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
I've heard their pain.

Speaker 27 (01:01:13):
I've absorbed that, and my heart breaks for them as
it breaks for the Israelis that lost loved ones on
October seventh, can continue to have loved ones held captive
by this terrorist organization.

Speaker 8 (01:01:25):
This is horrible on every level.

Speaker 27 (01:01:27):
And if there's people outside peacefully protesting to make sure
that powerful people inside this building here, that's their right
to do.

Speaker 8 (01:01:35):
And it's good that they're out there doing that.

Speaker 27 (01:01:37):
As I've always said, you got to write to protest,
you gotta follow the rules, whatever the rules are that
the mayor of Chicago or whatever set up, and it's
got to be peaceful and then you can make sure
your voice is heard.

Speaker 7 (01:01:46):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
I wanted to ask you about Pennsylvania Governor Donald Trump.
Support among white working class voters without a college degree
has shrunk significantly, not just in Pennsylvan, Michigan and Wisconsin
as well. That group typically favors Republicans, but they're now
starting to back the vice president.

Speaker 7 (01:02:01):
Why do you think that is?

Speaker 8 (01:02:02):
You know, I'll just look.

Speaker 27 (01:02:04):
Obviously you cite all the polling, and basically we got
kind of a tide race right now.

Speaker 8 (01:02:08):
I'll tell you what, Charlie.

Speaker 27 (01:02:09):
And anecdotally, when I'm out in these rural areas, I
go there, a lot foks kind of siddle up to
me and they go, what do you really think of her?

Speaker 8 (01:02:19):
What's her deal?

Speaker 27 (01:02:21):
What I'm trying to express you is there's like a curiosity,
well what's she really like?

Speaker 8 (01:02:25):
What's she going to be like? You know her?

Speaker 27 (01:02:28):
I take that as a really positive and hopeful sign
that they're kind of open to considering her candidacy. And
that's a really really important thing.

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
Andrew. You know that feel from when you're running and
you kind of.

Speaker 27 (01:02:39):
Got somebody who maybe you think wouldn't take a look
at you, but they are. That's when you know you're
kind of onto something. And that's what I'm feeling out
in the community.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
And that's I actually wanted to ask your advice, Suit
and I'm sure you're giving it to the campaign. As
a governor, I completely understand your hesitance on going wanted
to go anywhere because it's such a powerful and important
and responsible place to try to change heal and mend
the lives of the people for whom you've been elected
to serve.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
You're doing that. I called you as the VP pick.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Not in any recent time, but the night I heard
your acceptance speech once you won the race for governor,
I was listening on television and I was like, Dad, dudes,
got it. I was like, whatever it is, he's got it, Governor.
I'm not going to take for granted in any way,
shape or form that there are people out here who
can't see a woman, let alone a black woman, as

(01:03:33):
their commander in chief. And I sometimes wonder how this
conversation goes down amongst men when it's just men and
you're trying to communicate to them in a way that
is not politically correct, but is at the source of
your heart and the source of what it is that
you believe. And I wonder what advice might you give

(01:03:54):
to this campaign, the broader campaign and us as individuals
and individual listeners around how folks might go about that conversation,
how might they go about that conversation amongst other men,
and what that might be and not saying all men
are the same. So there's a lot of qualifiers there.
But I hope you get my point.

Speaker 27 (01:04:12):
No, I do, And I think it is really really
important that people can vouch for the Vice President who
have had an opportunity to work with her, people who
have had the opportunity to get to know her. Certainly,
I'm one of those people, and there are others. When
you want to talk about whatever, just the guys sitting
around having the conversation. It might be hard for Kamala

(01:04:34):
Harris to be part of that conversation. But if I
can be there, I can tell her, Hey, guys, listen,
she's tough as nails. Yeah, she knows what she's doing.
She is prepared to lead, and I've seen her do
the job. I've seen her be tough and know what's
at stake and how to make sure that she holds
someone accountable or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:04:55):
The situation is.

Speaker 27 (01:04:56):
I think that those people who know her best ouching
for her in those communities are going to be really
really important.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Well, I hope people take that as instruction, because, however
taboo it may seem and sound, that's a barrier we
have to get over in communities all across this country.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
And I hope folks will take note.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
And speaking of barriers, I just want to before you answer,
a Governor, we've been joined by a history breaker, a
history maker herself, big first black woman Speaker of the
Pennsylvania House, and I know an ally of Governor Shapiro,
so we wanted to make sure we had a little
time to overlap with you both.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Man.

Speaker 27 (01:05:31):
Speaker Joanna McClinton, if you've not heard that name before,
you're going to hear it again and again and again.
She is the history making Speaker of the Pennsylvania House
of Representatives for the first time. The Democrats are in
the majority for about a dozen years, and look at
who they picked to lead that.

Speaker 8 (01:05:47):
At That is a big deal.

Speaker 27 (01:05:50):
She is awesome and as you said, a great ally
of mine and I have hers, and we're doing big
things in Pennsylvania. Invest in record amounts in public education,
public safety, economic opportunity, protecting our fundamental freedoms.

Speaker 8 (01:06:03):
It's big time stuff for getting done in Pennsylvania, in.

Speaker 27 (01:06:06):
The only divided legislature in the whole country. And uh,
Minister McClinton on Sundays you appreciate.

Speaker 17 (01:06:19):
Women and ginger, what can I help you with, Governor Bishop,
you were preaching.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Out there last night.

Speaker 8 (01:06:23):
I need whatever you drink after church on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Well, there's no better introduction, ma'am speaker, thank you for
having me absolutely tell us how you did it. What's
been the labor to get to this point is, as
I've heard in the commercial, my overnight success has been
years in the makingsolutely and that's probably the story you
could tell.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Absolutely.

Speaker 17 (01:06:42):
So growing up, I was not one seeing myself running
anything in government. I grew up with role models like
Matt Locke and Claire Huxtables.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
I was going to law school.

Speaker 17 (01:06:55):
Seven, I mean I was in the eighties. These were
my role models. No lawyers in my family. And once
I got all the way through school, I ended up
working as a public defender for almost a decade. Doing
that work in court with people who are in the
worst circumstances of their lives, both struggling with poverty and
also accused of serious things about.

Speaker 9 (01:07:13):
To lose liberty.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
It was there that I found my voice.

Speaker 12 (01:07:16):
And then finding my.

Speaker 17 (01:07:17):
Voice, I saw that there was a lot of injustices,
just in the law, mandatory minimums, I mean, so many
things that didn't make sense. And when I would ask
my colleagues and our appellate lawyers down at the PHILLYPDS.
I'm like, what's this all about. They're like Harrisburg. I'm like, well,
where is Harrisburg. I live in Philly. I'm not one
to get to the state capitol ever, And I left
the public Defenders, got a job working for my state senator,

(01:07:38):
was his chief council for a few years, and for
nine years just right now, I have been serving my
neighbors in western southwest Philly and Delaware County as state rep.
And for the last four years I have been in
leadership in Harrisburg. And it's when we flipped the House
in twenty twenty two that I went from the minority
leader to the speaker.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
I love that.

Speaker 8 (01:07:56):
Can I end it can jump in real quickly.

Speaker 27 (01:07:58):
I want you to understand what it means to have
Joanna McClinton as the leader. She mentioned that she was
a public defender forever. In a day, Pennsylvania was one
of only two states in the whole nation that did
not fund public defenders at the state level. Joanna Mclinton
is Speaker for a hot second, and we got rid
of that bad distinction.

Speaker 8 (01:08:19):
We now helped fund our public defenders.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
Right.

Speaker 27 (01:08:21):
It matters who you pro compositions of leadership.

Speaker 6 (01:08:25):
Talk about it, you know, governorship. Your speech got under
Trump's skin. Right last night he called you an overrated
Jewish governor.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
So what off calling you overrated anti Semita?

Speaker 8 (01:08:40):
I mean, I think my poll numbers right twenty points
bearing his.

Speaker 7 (01:08:45):
Dropped.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
This is literally the definition of say less, yes, say less,
check yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:09:00):
Yeah, I'll say serious thing. I don't get upset when
he criticized me. I don't, honestly, I don't get too
high when people say nice things too low and people
say bad things. Here's what pisses me off, though, when
he engages.

Speaker 8 (01:09:12):
In these anti Semitic tropes, when.

Speaker 27 (01:09:14):
He pushes hatred and bigotry into our political discourse. It
makes other people around here feel less safe. Yes, it
makes them feel like they don't belong and it infects us.
And listen, I got four kids. I try and raise
them to be good people. You try and raise them
to be the kind of people that you'd want in
the leader of this nation. Kamala Harris is that kind

(01:09:35):
of person you know, no matter what you look like,
where you come from, who you love, who you pray to,
you belong here. She believes that I believe that Donald
Trump doesn't believe that. And that is what's upsetting to me,
not that he calls me a bad nam or engages
in attacks on me.

Speaker 8 (01:09:51):
It's how it makes other people.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Feel and the license it gives to people like him
to do the same thing.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
You would think he would learn his lesson, he goes,
he's already created in him.

Speaker 7 (01:10:00):
I'm been of political violence. Is clearly you haven't been
safe for him.

Speaker 21 (01:10:02):
So you think you learned, YEA, nobody see that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
That's a really good point.

Speaker 13 (01:10:07):
Okay, Well, I do have one more question for the governor.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Are we okay with this staff? We keep getting caused out.

Speaker 6 (01:10:13):
By Mercy charl Okay, what do you say to people?
I've been seeing the right say this a lot. Democrats
talk like they don't have the White House. Now they
talk like they haven't had the White House twelve of
the last sixteen years. How come Democrats don't speak like
they are in the driver's seat.

Speaker 27 (01:10:32):
I'm not sure I'd look at it that way, but
I think what we have now, as a result of
what occurred over the last thirty ish days or so,
we got a change agent in Kamala Harris. We got
someone who now gets to lay out a different vision,
a different path forward. And so of course she's going
to take up the mantle change. We already know what
the hell Donald Trump's going to do. He did it

(01:10:52):
for four years, and you know what he did more chaos,
less jobs, and a whole lot less freedom when he
was in charge. He wants to do the same thing.
So like he's not the change agent Kamala Harris is.
And so maybe that's sort of what folks are reacting to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Well, Governor, you're you're being gracious with your staff. I
was gonna say anytime, we always we don't always have
six seats, but we at least got four. Where you
want to come and join Native Lampid, we'll you know,
loocome you on as guest hosts any day of the
week when you're not Obama.

Speaker 8 (01:11:31):
I'm not sure where that came from, but.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
In my lifetime, you definitely sound like him sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Yeah, but you know he got his sound from some
places too, So we're allowed to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Na Joina said he was preaching. They both sound like
we need an organ.

Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
All we need is an.

Speaker 17 (01:11:52):
Organ, but the fans have to have com.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Let's ask both of y'all before y'all go who had
the best beach of the week.

Speaker 7 (01:12:03):
We had the best beach of the week.

Speaker 27 (01:12:05):
Come on, It's like asking me choose between my kids.
I think Michelle, come on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Easily, mad him Speaker and governor. The debate has been
the ship. She had been the closest.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
She can close every night.

Speaker 17 (01:12:20):
She can close every night, Michelle and closed and governor.

Speaker 12 (01:12:24):
I have nothing in front of me.

Speaker 21 (01:12:25):
But she's like, you took my talking points.

Speaker 17 (01:12:28):
Michelle, but see they defer to the state rep.

Speaker 12 (01:12:33):
We'll come back to you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
I don't even.

Speaker 17 (01:12:37):
Want to close on the floor, taking self several feet away.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
I love it.

Speaker 18 (01:12:42):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
The message from that is become governor. You know you
have term limits and stuff. Just saying Mark my word will.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Be that one.

Speaker 5 (01:12:50):
I believe that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
So grateful for both of you all for joining us tonight.
It's your night and they get us to fight tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Thanks you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
I love it so many histories.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
I'm moving to Pennsylvania, but thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
You're hugging from afar.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
Okay, And as as we transition here, we have Ellie, Ellie,
miss Salas coming up now to join us. Our Supreme
Court expert uh is in the building and we are
thrilled because we had we had lunch with him earlier
and Ellie was breaking it down.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
This is his favorite thing to do. There's also a
photo shoot happening on the stage.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Can I say you lunch, Honor. I want you all
to know, thank you, Governor. We appreciate you being here.
During our lunch, we Andrew and I had talked about
if we were going to expand the court and we
got to name some of the justices. Who will we name?
And I just want you ought to know where Angela
Rii called to serve on Scottis. Her answer was a
resounding no, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
But what did I say.

Speaker 9 (01:14:08):
I would do?

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Where? Did you say a confirmation?

Speaker 14 (01:14:10):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
And Ellie and her agreed they both just want to
be nominated so they could have the hearing itself. Yes, Ellie,
we're happy to have you.

Speaker 18 (01:14:20):
Hello, it's like Saturday morning.

Speaker 7 (01:14:22):
I love that Angela ry.

Speaker 6 (01:14:24):
I will tell you, Ellie, I have read the column
you wrote in the Nation that it's impossible to overstate
the damage done by the Supreme Court in this term.
I've read that to so many people, giving it to
so many people. I think that is one of the
most important that people should be reading right now.

Speaker 28 (01:14:38):
Thank you so much. It is the issue to me
is the issue of the moment. People forget that the
Supreme Court is a third branch of government. It has
just as much power the other two. And if you
ask the Supreme Court, it has more power. That's right,
the other two because it thinks that it has a
veto power over the branches of government that we elect.
So as much as I love being of the Democratic
National Convention, as much as I love voting rights, according

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to the Supreme my votes just for show right, because
they are the ones who think that they have the
real power to shape the laws and rights and responsibilities
in this country.

Speaker 6 (01:15:08):
Why are more elected officiers just coming out and saying
the Supreme Court is no longer legitimate institutes?

Speaker 7 (01:15:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:15:12):
Why?

Speaker 28 (01:15:13):
Indeed, at some level I'm happy they don't because I
get a job. Oh why don't they? Why don't they
say that? I think that there are a lot of reasons.
One of the reasons is that we have we have
elevated the court to the status of clergy right, to

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the status of religion right, and so we have such
a genuine flect and a respect for the Supreme Court
that calling them to the carpet for their bs is
not something that comes naturally for the other branches of
government certainly doesn't come naturally for older established politicians.

Speaker 18 (01:15:51):
I think that's one problem.

Speaker 28 (01:15:53):
The second problem is that, you know, especially on my
side of the aisle, on the black left, on the
progressive left, we have institutional memory of when the Court
was good, right, of when the Court was a leader
for civil rights, a leader for voting rights right, and
so we look back on those days and we think, well,
we shouldn't be too harsh on the Court now just

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because they don't agree with us. People forget the war
in court, that error that I'm talking about, that was
about like fifteen years. For the other two hundred and
twenty years, the War has been one of the most
reactionary branches of government and in the country. It has
routinely kept its foot on the neck of black and
brown folks in this country.

Speaker 18 (01:16:32):
And you can go all the way back to eighteen.

Speaker 28 (01:16:33):
Fifty seven in the dread Scott decision, where the Court,
not the Constitution, not even the slavers who wrote the
Constitution put this in their document, but the Supreme Court
said a black man has no rights to the white
man has bound to respect. That was a court decision,
not a constitutional amendment. Right, that's eighteen fifty seven that
start the Civil War. You can go all the way
up to nineteen oh eight plus E v.

Speaker 18 (01:16:54):
Ferguson.

Speaker 28 (01:16:55):
That's the Supreme Court that sets separate but equal is
just fine and does not violate the Fourteenth Amendment. That
people just fought and died and thought a whole war over.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Right.

Speaker 28 (01:17:03):
That's the Supreme Court decision. So if you look, if
you take a longer view, yeah, the Court's always on
its bs right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Ask you, Ellie.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
You know, I've been talking to folks a lot about
how important it is for us to have our own
legal defense fund, our own strategy, one to protect elected
officials that the Department of Justice is targeting regardless of
who's in power, but also to protect our civil rights
and our interests. We saw affirmative action dismantled in this
Supreme Court that you're talking about. What about us using

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that same approach to go after things like legacy admissions, right,
going after the contractors who use their white lives as
front companies in the federal government and get some of
those affirmative action benefits.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
What about using those same strategies? Have you thought? Okay,
you ready? Go ahead?

Speaker 28 (01:17:45):
So I'm gonna answer that question, but I want to,
I want to I want to pre answer that question
with something right because one of the questions, I've gotten
a lot, I've gotten a lot this convention from you
know average you know, random black delegates that are they're
here at this this event. How does the Supreme Court
import black impact black people? And how is how are
our rights affected by the Supreme Court. And one of
the things that I always try to tell people is

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look at what they say in.

Speaker 7 (01:18:06):
Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 28 (01:18:07):
Yeah, because your question, Angela. It hearkens to there is
an organization that is supposed to defend the.

Speaker 18 (01:18:14):
Civil rights of us.

Speaker 28 (01:18:16):
It is called the Division of Civil Rights in the
Department of Justice. Look at what Project twenty twenty five
says about the Civil Rights Division.

Speaker 18 (01:18:24):
It wants to change.

Speaker 28 (01:18:26):
The Civil Rights Rights Division, take it away from defending
the rights of black people and instead defend the rights
of wait, for white folks. It wants to make the
Civil Rights Division. And then this is again they wrote
this down. They want to use the Civil Rights Division
to sue companies that use what they're calling DEI and
hire black people as violating the civil rights and the

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Fourteenth Amendment rights of white folks. Yeah, that's their plan.

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
Wow.

Speaker 28 (01:18:53):
Right, So that's my pre answer in terms of to
get to the heart of your question, like why don't
we have more legal defense funds? And I will all
just get a shot shout out the und BLACP Legal
Defense Fund to day Nelson.

Speaker 18 (01:19:04):
I saw her here, the.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Lawyers Committee, But they're designed to do something different. We
need a proactive fighter like they do. Like first, what
is America America?

Speaker 28 (01:19:13):
Miller thinks your problem with that is that you always
run into the judges, you always run into.

Speaker 18 (01:19:18):
The Supreme Court.

Speaker 28 (01:19:19):
Right, So I can I can give you the most eloquent,
the most well researched, the most detailed lawsuit in the world.
Neil Gorsich is going to rip that up and use
it as toilet paper.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
That's real?

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Can we that's why can we invite you invite the
rest of the audience into a question we asked earlier
today when we were eating, which was we talked about
the expansion of the court by expanding it by three seeds, right,
because that's what that that expansion four seats, I think
that would get us above basically where this whole ideological
imbalance is. You offered what I thought was a revolutionary

(01:19:54):
set of ideas, and I'd asked that you share that
with our co listeners.

Speaker 18 (01:19:57):
Right, Look, I'm for corn expansion.

Speaker 28 (01:19:59):
The current plan on the table is adding four seats
to match up with our thirteen circuits we have. We
used to have nine circuits short couits regions of the country,
and that gave us nine justices. Now we have thirteen
lower circuits, thirteen justices plus four. That's the thought process
behind plus four. I am for plus twenty. I want
us to have twenty nine judges on the Supreme Court.

Speaker 18 (01:20:20):
Does that sound a lot? It ain't.

Speaker 28 (01:20:21):
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers California, Arizona, Nevada,
al Alaska, Hawaii, Washington, and Oregon, they have what twenty
nine judges, right, So we're gonna find enough chairs to have.

Speaker 18 (01:20:35):
Twenty nine Supreme Court justices?

Speaker 7 (01:20:37):
Right?

Speaker 18 (01:20:38):
Number two?

Speaker 28 (01:20:38):
What does all the lower courts do? They hear their
cases not as a twenty nine member body, but as
a three member panel chosen by random lot. Can you
imagine living in a country where you don't get to
choose your judges?

Speaker 18 (01:20:53):
I'm sorry, can.

Speaker 28 (01:20:54):
You imagine living in a country where white folks don't
get to choose their judges?

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Right?

Speaker 28 (01:20:59):
Yeah, that makes them like black folks not getting the check.

Speaker 14 (01:21:02):
Right.

Speaker 28 (01:21:02):
And so, if you have a twenty nine member court,
most cases are heard by a three judge panel. They
don't know which judges are coming, which means they have
to make their arguments center mass, as opposed to knowing
that Alito or Roberts or Gorss is gonna be there
to bail them out. And then my last point that
I made to that I made to Andrew at lunch
was think about what we want the Supreme Court to do.

Speaker 18 (01:21:22):
We want it.

Speaker 28 (01:21:23):
To have moderate, center mass, universally agreeable decisions.

Speaker 18 (01:21:29):
Right. The more people.

Speaker 28 (01:21:31):
We have on the court, the more likely we are
to get moderate decisions because more people make for narrower
majorities trying to get everybody on the same page.

Speaker 18 (01:21:39):
Everybody can can nose this in their personal life.

Speaker 28 (01:21:42):
If you got to get four or five year boys
to go to dinner, you might go to some places
you ain't supposed to go. You might go to some
places your wife doesn't want you to go, right, you
might end up at the club. Right, you gotta get
twenty nine people at your family reunion to go to dinner.
You're gonna go to Applebee's. Yeah, you're gonna go to Chilice. Yeah,
you're gonna do some center mass and a dyne thing.

Speaker 18 (01:22:03):
Right.

Speaker 28 (01:22:03):
So, when you were talking about a fifteen fourteen split
decision on a twenty nine member of Supreme Court, I
promise you getting those fifteen cats into the same opinion,
it's going to make it super narrow and super mainstream.

Speaker 18 (01:22:15):
Twenty nine is the number.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
And Elly, you's brought up January sixth, And I know
as you as you leave us, before we get to
the other, can we at least just introduce the officer.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Got so tight on this, Arlie, Because I know you
care a lot about the Supreme Heriot, I want you
to ask your question, but I'll be very quick and
introduce Officer Harry Dune, who recently ran for Progressaryland, your hero.
You recognize him. We saw him a lot during the
impeachment hearing, but where we first met him was on

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that fateful day January sixth, when you saw somebody out
there throwing bowl out there, handling folks, and I just
I you know, I love you, and I think you
are an American hero, and it is our honor to
have you tonight. So we're justly gonna get to you.
But I do want charlottecause Charlatane is asked about the
Supreme Court several times, so I'm curious to hear Charlemagne's

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question and Ellie's answer.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
No, it's it's just a narrative that I'm seeing, Like
the more people call out the Supreme Court, they say
that people are only calling out the Supreme Court now
because it has a conservative majority. So could you tell
us why it doesn't matter what the party majority is,
what they're actually doing.

Speaker 18 (01:23:30):
Yeah, So there are two answers to that question.

Speaker 28 (01:23:33):
One, Yeah, I hate their decisions and I want to
do anything I can to stop them because their decisions
are taken away rights. I don't run away from saying
like I'm mad at the current Supreme Court. But what
the higher the higher ideal here, right is that the
Supreme Court as a whole has too much power. And
I'd be saying that if it was a democratic or
Supreme Court or the Republican Supreme Court because the people

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in the system that are supposed to have the power
are the voters, that's right, and the Supreme Court comes
over the top of the voters and tells us what
we're allowed to vote for, what we're allowed to believe,
what we're allowed to pass legislatively. And that was never
the intention. To my last answer your question, Federalists seventy eight.
So the federalist papers are like the John Jay, John
Adams and Alexander Hamilton writing about what the Constitution is

(01:24:17):
supposed to be. Right, there is one federalist paper about
the Supreme Court. It's called Federal seventy eight. And in
Federal seventy eight Alexander Hamilton says the Supreme Court should
be the least dangerous branch of government because it has
neither the power of the purse that means it can't
raise taxes.

Speaker 18 (01:24:33):
Or the power of the sword that means it doesn't
have an army.

Speaker 28 (01:24:36):
The next time Alexander Hamilton would be as wrong, he'd
be firing his gun up into the air.

Speaker 18 (01:24:41):
In New Jersey. Hey, that's how wrong that man was right.

Speaker 28 (01:24:44):
And so we need to get back to a dare
I say conservative dare I say, founding principle of the
Supreme Court not being up.

Speaker 18 (01:24:52):
Our ass the entire time. Hey, that's what I'm saying.
So I gotta go. Can I say one more thing? Hey,
Officer Done.

Speaker 28 (01:24:59):
So I've been have this convention, a lot of people
ask to take my picture. I've asked to take my
picture with two people and one of them was Officer.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Before you came up, Ellie, I saw you picking out
your hair for you definitely gonna have to do what
we take these hands.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
But I am so grateful for you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
You know what, we love absolutely every time. And then
if I know you have another special guest you like
to bring up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Yes, please. So also on that day, on January sixth,
Officer Done was joined in your your wonderful service. I'll
help you with your uh head set, and I don't
I don't want to mispronounce your name, so tell tell
us how to say your last name now, thank you.

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And you also had a harrowing testimony during the impeachment
hearings as well, So I I just can't say enough
how we are so thrilled to be joined by two
American heroes that day, and I want to kick it
off with you Harry, because first of all, I love
how when you would call my show, I would see
you on other shows, and when you finally made jo.

Speaker 25 (01:26:10):
Way to my chew, she kept saying she was trying
to get me booked, but I never got the message.

Speaker 10 (01:26:16):
So as soon as I heard, I said, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Sign it up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
He came on immediately. But it was a whole differ.
You kept it a buck with me all the time.
So I want to ask you now, you know firsthand
you were literally on the front line wishing the MF
Wood okay, and you let a few people know. What
are you most concerned about with this election cycle? And
do you think that there is potential to see more

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political violence. I know we're keeping hope and talking, you know,
a lot of positivity, but this is a real situation
that exists out there with people who are disperforcately armed
to the rest of us. What do you think about it?
What are you thought?

Speaker 7 (01:26:51):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 10 (01:26:52):
Accountability.

Speaker 25 (01:26:53):
First of all, on January sixth, I did my job
as a police officer. On January seventh, I did what
I'm doing now to this day as an American citizen
who loved his country. It wasn't even about Capitol Police
from then to now, and I was fighting for accountability
for everybody responsible for the downfalls of those days, including
Donald Trump. Accountability serves two purposes. For the people who

(01:27:17):
were aggrieved, they felt some type of harm. It provides
some type of closure for them, and also it serves
as a turrent that hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 10 (01:27:28):
So what's to keep it from happening again?

Speaker 25 (01:27:30):
The Supreme Court that Ellie was just talking about, they
just said Donald Trump cannot be held accountable for his
action that day, right, So what is to stop him
from doing it again? If you remember, in the first
in the debate with Joe Biden, they asked him three times,
where you commit to.

Speaker 10 (01:27:46):
Accepting the results of the election. He couldn't answer it.

Speaker 25 (01:27:49):
So he's planning the seeds already to his supporters for
the doubt. And that's what January sixth was about. It
was about a lie. They thought he told his followers
his cult is that the election was stolen, and that's
all they needed. If the most powerful person in the
world tells you go march on the Capitol, then you're
gonna go do it. I mean, my mama tell me
do anything. I'm empowered. Can't nobody tell me do nothing.

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Imagine the most powerful man in the world saying, go
do it. You're gonna feel empowered to do it. So
he's already planting those seeds. And yes to answer question,
yes it can't happen again, and there's nothing really stopping
it from happening again.

Speaker 6 (01:28:23):
But us but us, hell, what did what did y'all
think was happening on that day when everything first started
you know, occurring?

Speaker 29 (01:28:31):
I mean it, you know, at first we thought that
it was gonna be non violence. There was good litterus kurmishes,
like we normally we do from time to time, but
not to the level that the very same president who's
supposed to have the world being of the country put
in Jipardy the safety of every electri officials inside that capital.

(01:28:51):
And then not only did he do that, then he
that sat on his behind and not do anything to
prevent any further violence. When I was in the tunnel
fighting with a mob roughly forty thirty two forty officers
side by side showed to shoulder fighting holding down the
line in the tunnel, I was asking myself the very

(01:29:13):
same question, what the heck is the president?

Speaker 15 (01:29:16):
And I used it.

Speaker 29 (01:29:17):
I'm using that as with a less colorful word, what
what the what the fuck is the president? I don't
know if I could curse or no, but in my mind,
I was like, what the fuck is the president?

Speaker 15 (01:29:29):
Where is our help? Where is our reinforcement?

Speaker 29 (01:29:31):
Because this has happened in broad daylight, sixteen blocks away
from the capital. Me as a military person, as a veteran,
as somebody who went to Camba, and I know the
chain command.

Speaker 15 (01:29:42):
The chain command ends.

Speaker 29 (01:29:44):
At and begins with the commander in chief.

Speaker 15 (01:29:48):
Who was the commanding in chief that day? Donald Trump?
What did he do?

Speaker 29 (01:29:52):
He put everybody inside the building Clune, the officers at
Life Arrests, and we protected joined at the official Whether
you were from Georgia or California or New York, we
were protected the same. I didn't care whether we were
it was AOC or my Italian green, I didn't care.

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We protect them both the same. And to hear that today,
there's a report that he's planning to do a gala
for the January six Sister Writers.

Speaker 10 (01:30:24):
Awards January for next month, next month.

Speaker 29 (01:30:28):
For next month, not for the officers who risk their
lives because they claim that we are the party of
law and order.

Speaker 15 (01:30:36):
We are the party that supported law, the rule law.
We are the party who support the police.

Speaker 29 (01:30:42):
How is that supporting the police if you are celebrating
and uh not denouncing the violence that people did to
the officers. People died. And that's what I did last night.
I tried to convey that in my in my speech
last night, because my story is not it's something that

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everybody should know. I'm literally the embodiment of that type
of immigrant that they Republicans say that they won in
this country. And asking ask me how many of electrificial
Republicans have talked to me about what happened to me
on Joanney six two, Liz Cheney, Liz Janey and had

(01:31:24):
the kinstinger. Nobody else. I had passed a lot of them,
and no, no, no, I even can get themselves to say,
I'm sorry for what happened to you. Now that I'm
asking thank you for what you did. Look, I came
here when I was twelve. I'm sorry I came here
when I was twelve. I struggle first, you know, with family,

(01:31:47):
with adapting, assimilating, but I overcome those things. I got
an education, I joined the military. I went to five
for this country overseas when my government told me too.

Speaker 15 (01:31:57):
Whether I liked it or not, I did my job there.
I kept my duty in my oath.

Speaker 29 (01:32:02):
When I came back, I finished my education and then
I became a Capitol police officer, where I was for
seventeen years until the injuries that people that claimed that
love police officers agree with me. They damaged my body,
damaged my health, damaged my career. And then they had
the audacity to tell me I did it for you,

(01:32:23):
and then they called me you are a trader because
you stopped me and my people like minded people like
me that support Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
But you're certainly not a trader, neither of you. You
are heroes.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
And even if Donald Trump, I won't tell you thank you,
thank you for your service.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
And I know that you guys have to we have
to go. We have Kamala Harris's campaign manager.

Speaker 6 (01:32:46):
Real quick, How did y'all show reach strength and not
turn it into a bloodbath, Because.

Speaker 10 (01:32:56):
If it was about restraint, man, it was just about survival.

Speaker 14 (01:32:58):
Man.

Speaker 25 (01:32:59):
I was arm that they with a long gun AR fifteen,
you know the ones, the guns that were need on streets.
They know they're the ones that we don't need on
the streets anymore. But I wasn't going down in the
crowd of you going there, You pull your gun out.
Our former chief wrote the book, we were out number
fifty eight to one. You pull your gun out, Then
what which one you're gonna shoot?

Speaker 10 (01:33:19):
Who do you show?

Speaker 7 (01:33:20):
Who do you shoot first?

Speaker 25 (01:33:21):
You can't just fire indiscriminately, And I think that just
shows the professionalism of what.

Speaker 10 (01:33:25):
Police should be, what should be not just when the
bust somebody of hot water.

Speaker 29 (01:33:32):
Look, we were just defied to use me to force.
We chose now to because we didn't know who was
had weapons in their side. And in my belief when
I faced that dec issue, because I almost did, especially
when they were dragging whatever happened to fan fun relieve me.

Speaker 15 (01:33:47):
And when I got a chance to.

Speaker 29 (01:33:49):
Go back into the fight, people were trying to pull
me into the crowd, and I didn't do it because
somebody else hit another officer hit the person who dragging me.

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
That that my shoulder.

Speaker 15 (01:34:02):
By then I was hurt and injured. Look, we were
justified to use little force.

Speaker 29 (01:34:07):
What we didn't want to do was create a bigger
situation that we're already our number anyway. Yeah, look, if
you want to hear more about our story, Harry Harry
has a that dude right there.

Speaker 15 (01:34:23):
Yeah, he has a book called Standing My Ground.

Speaker 29 (01:34:27):
I have a book telling my story, the immigrant story,
that serjeant military story.

Speaker 15 (01:34:33):
And the police officer story.

Speaker 29 (01:34:34):
My book is called American Shield, The Immigrant Sergeant who
Defended Democracy.

Speaker 15 (01:34:39):
I also use a policy a website.

Speaker 29 (01:34:41):
Where you guys could learn a little more about myself
and the sacrifices that I had done to this country.

Speaker 15 (01:34:48):
Thank you for having us.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
I'm not taking.

Speaker 5 (01:34:58):
Fat man.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Thank you guys so much. Thank you guys so much.
Thank you guys so much.

Speaker 7 (01:35:09):
We thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
I am too. I am so glad that time you guys. Hi,
thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (01:35:24):
All Right, I don't like my aunties all.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Okay, okay, you guys.

Speaker 7 (01:35:38):
Actually I had to wait for it to give me
a drink to right now.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Okay, so listen here, you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
It's almost prime time and I actually wanted to wait
for them to get their headphones on because I am thrilled.
I can't tell you how much. Julie Chavez Rodriguez is
committed to the work. She very rarely does pray this
is Kamala Harris's campaign. Well not even just about the

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looks is.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
I didn't see that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
Yes you are fabulous, but she's Kamala Harrison's campaign manager
and she's joined tonight by the principal deputy campaign manager,
Quentin Folks. They rolled toe to toe, it always got
each other's back and wanted to come join us together.
So welcome to you both. Thank you for this, making
it on this history night. You got to be thrilled,
got time.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Sacrifice, That's what I acknowledging.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Yes, we appreciate you guys here and Julie, I just
wanted to tell you on our podcast your your ears
uh maybe burning? Because Angela so frequently when we say well,
what does the campaign need to do or what needs
to happen, she says, listen to Julie, Listen to Julie.
So we are really thrilled to have you here tonight.
I want to ask you, what would you say to

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the American people, Uh, some who may feel apathetic, some
who may feel well, all this enthusiasm the race is
pretty much one some of these mysterious swing voters that
people keep talking about. What does this campaign need to
push President elect Kamala Harris over the edge.

Speaker 30 (01:37:13):
Well, I love that you call our president elect Kamala
Harris because look, we believe that we have a strategy
and our pathway to victory to win in November, and
we are very excited, but we also know that it's
going to be a close election. We are not taking
anything for granted, any voter for granted. Fortunately, you know,
Quintin and I have built an incredible organization in our
battleground states. We've been able to raise the resources that

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we need to invest in organizing and getting on the
doors doing you know what we say, focusing on the fundamentals,
right canvassing, phone banks, text banks, doing everything that we
can to be able to reach our voters. In addition
to the incredible paid media campaign that Quintin is helping
to lead that is speaking directly to our voters, speaking

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directly to Black voters, Latino voters, young voters, women voters.
That's who we need to reach and draw out in
the next seventy four days of this selection. And the
enthusiasm is incredible, but we have to turn that into
real action and votes in November.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Yeah, I love that. The granddaughter, by the way, itsays
oo is. I appreciate you, Quentin.

Speaker 8 (01:38:15):
Thank you for being here, Thank you guys for having me.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 16 (01:38:17):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:38:18):
Can I go directly to a question for Quinn.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
I don't know all of your political background, but you're
a black man, and so I'd love for you to
speak to some of this. I don't know how much
of it is rumor how much of it is real,
but I know we need every vote, which means we
got to speak to everybody. How is the campaign figured
in these final days and weeks of the campaign that

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we again begin to upset some of this narrative that
black men are somehow mysteriously not going to be there
for Kamala Harris. I think numbers betray that sort of narrative.
But is there something a message that you would try
to get out there to black men around the role
that we may have in these closing days of the election,

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to try to I think bring us all together toward
a common goal, and that's electing Kamala Harris President of
the United States.

Speaker 7 (01:39:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:39:11):
So, I mean my answer to that first and foremost
is you got to vote, and I think sometimes it
can be hard to do that, especially when you keep
getting asked to do it over and over and over again,
and you don't feel like anything is necessarily changing. And
so for me, when it comes to you know, what
we have to do, obviously, the Vice President has to
you know, draft a vision for this country that includes
black men. And I don't think it's just Kamala Harris

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or Democrats has to do better. It is Democrats because
we need their vote, but everybody has to do better
when it comes to black men. And I think we
got to show it represented in the campaign. I got
to think we got to show it represented in the
policy proposals and the agenda that she's putting forward and
how we do it. I think we also have to
be different from a you know, a standpoint of you know,
how we're moving and shaking within the campaign to say

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it in a different way. And I think that they
will recognize that. But I don't like to sort of
just say, oh, well, black men have to turn out
it just because it's a Democrat. I think black men
have to turn out because they see themselves invested in something.
It's incredibly important to the Vice President, which is why
she has been doing. Uh, she hosted these black Men's
dinners she did the Economic Opportunity Chour with CBC Chairman

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Steve Horsford, and so we have to continue to do
that and we have to build off of it. But
at the end of the day, we as a campaign
have the responsibility of making sure black men see themselves
in the vision that Kamala Harrison Tim Walls are putting
forward for America. And I think when we do that,
they will turn out to vote.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
And so still hugely a part of that strategy is
that part of what I missed semessage.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
So we'll go back and he was apologizing for some
of the stuff that this misinformation stuff he spread before.
But since we are talking about tonight, I wanted to
drop y'all into the celebration of this moment. Julie, this
is a long time coming. You've been with Kamala since
you were a state director in her Senate office. That's
how I met her is through Julie, and I just

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want you all, if you can, to preview for us
some of what you expect in her remarks tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
How do you think she'll continue to bring everybody together?

Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
It was miraculous, which I'll pulled off that Sunday afternoon,
right after Joe Biden' day, Kamala's my person. You rally
all the delegates, all the people that you needed to
within a matter of forty eight hours or a lot less.
So talk about how she's going to continue to galvanize
this really important base tonight.

Speaker 30 (01:41:23):
Yeah, well, thank you for the question, and you know,
we are so excited about this evening. I think it's
a real opportunity for her to one talk about her bio,
her experience, the work that she has done throughout her career,
and who she's been fighting for day in and day
out when she's in the halls of power. I know
and I have seen that she has been fighting for us,
for our families, for our communities, day in and day out,

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and then seeing, you know, what the vision is for
the future. As you know we've seen throughout the convention,
our theme is you know, for the people, for our future,
and that's really what she's going to continue to really
vision for all of us to be able to see ourselves,
as Quentin said in what that future looks like, in

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a future that is focused on freedom, and it's freedom
to be able to live and retire with dignity, it's
freedom to be able to live free from gun violence.
It's freedom to make decisions about our own bodies. It's
you know, the freedom to be able to afford a
house and rent, and the American dream that so many

(01:42:24):
folks aspire to. That is the vision that she is
going to continue to focus on and invest in and
make sure that we have the policy prescriptions in place
to get it done.

Speaker 4 (01:42:35):
She said, freedom enough. I wonder does that mean freedom
freedom Beyonce is coming.

Speaker 25 (01:42:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:42:43):
I don't know, Honestly, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
Julie said, you're not gonna get me on j.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
Goings Taylor or Beyonce or Taylor and Beyonce because they did.

Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
How the v give me?

Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
How was she prepared for tonight? Because I heard she
was their so whole house getting lit before.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
That ridiculous bus.

Speaker 15 (01:43:15):
You did not hear that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:17):
It's a fine, Julie said, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
Not giving me on neither one of these questions.

Speaker 30 (01:43:22):
Look, I think that you know the president is she is,
you know, very focused and understands the significance of the
moment right and the opportunity to not just be able
to step on the stage and be able to really
show her experience and her skills, but to also be
able to be you know, the example that so many

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young women are going to be watching tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
You're not about to.

Speaker 6 (01:43:47):
Arguments, but y'all are prepared for people to be overly critical,
especially being that she hasn't you know, done any interviews
over the last few weeks, so people are waiting to
hear what she has to say.

Speaker 7 (01:43:57):
So everybody's going to be overly critical of her of
her speak.

Speaker 20 (01:44:00):
But look, I think that what I would say to
that is that she's gonna meet the moment tonight because
she's not trying to meet the moment there. It is right,
And I think I think the difference in between the
Kamala Harris that you know, people have overly criticized for
for far too long and pointed out every misstep or
everything that they thought wrong. That's not who she is anymore.
She's not trying to prove anything to anybody.

Speaker 18 (01:44:22):
She's experienced. She's never been there.

Speaker 6 (01:44:26):
Yeah, I would say she's never been there. I mean,
if you knew her before VP, and that's what we
all so I had an expectation. So you know, the
person you saw the last three and a half years,
that's not her but she.

Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
Has a confident in herself three and a half weeks
is definitely who we didn't know and and we're so late.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
She's like allowed me to reintroduce myself. We know you
guys can't stay with us forever, but I wish you could. Julie,
I'm gonna take as a stay tuned. I'm so excited
now you.

Speaker 5 (01:45:00):
We wish you all radical success.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Your radical success means our success in the country's success,
and beyond that, I have to admit the global stage,
the global the world is counting on us to get
this right. Yes, which means we're counting on y'all to
get it right, and y'all accounting all of us to
get it right.

Speaker 6 (01:45:17):
And we thank you if you'll see it before this
piecing on my love till I'm rooting for and you know,
I hope she knocks it out the park and then
she will.

Speaker 5 (01:45:24):
We appreciate. I appreciate that well.

Speaker 30 (01:45:26):
And I'll just send them with saying, you know, one
thing that President Obama used to remind us all is
that we are the ones we've been waiting.

Speaker 5 (01:45:32):
For time to do this.

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
Oh you know what, since we have y'all on one thing,
we've been asking everybody tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
We cannot get a floor pass.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
The question is speech this week? Get it, everybody, It's
not even.

Speaker 5 (01:45:55):
It was.

Speaker 30 (01:45:55):
It was the most powerful and on point and just
everything like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
But you wish that she would have closed instead of
do you think that they should have switched? You can
answer that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:05):
Thank you for your time. We need, we appreciate and
you know what, tomorrow number one now took places.

Speaker 6 (01:46:13):
I hope after tomorrow she's number two, and I hope
the VP got the number one speech of the week
after the night.

Speaker 8 (01:46:18):
That's what we'll take that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. She appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
Trouble for asking them what they think, like just the ordering,
I think they we're in a historical moment.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
Oh yeah, you guys, we have a whole job.

Speaker 9 (01:46:41):
Andrew.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
I'm saying, if the tides are training and now we're
creating the path for the woman that she should I
think that's fair. I love you say hugging congratulations, so
proud of you.

Speaker 5 (01:46:55):
The controveryody. It's like protocol requires protocol.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Yeah, well, we may have broken some news here tonight.

Speaker 15 (01:47:03):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
We may have gotten a preview into into what's upcoming.
Be careful going down those I love you you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
I cannot tell you how excited I do.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Do you think that's what it is because we didn't
necessarily get a confirmation?

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
I think can I bet twenty dollars that it's gonna
be a Beyonce and Taylor moment.

Speaker 3 (01:47:23):
Based on that face I.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Saw she was described her question do you Taylor's performing
somewhere overseas?

Speaker 8 (01:47:30):
Do we know her?

Speaker 7 (01:47:31):
I don't know, But do you use that moment?

Speaker 14 (01:47:33):
Now?

Speaker 18 (01:47:34):
Do you use right now?

Speaker 10 (01:47:36):
It might be yes, there are no more.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
Wait for inauguration or election night like you do that
at convention and close the deal, seal the deal. I mean,
but the truth is this is exciting. I don't know
that having Beyonce or Taylor s what's on stage is
going to sway any votes. I think it just shows
the enthusiasm around this campaign and when you suppose right
and unity this if these and the Beehive come together,
that would be interesting. But I think it also jaxtaposes

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the Trump campaign because you look at the celebrities they
had there, you look at the speeches they gave there,
and it was they had a less.

Speaker 7 (01:48:12):
Celebrities for their demo.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
The funny thing is their demo.

Speaker 7 (01:48:17):
Had celebrities who.

Speaker 5 (01:48:21):
I get for their for their base, and all they
needed was white.

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
Man said there was a basically, so can I bet
y'all twenty dollars just one, say dollars?

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
Okay, twenty dollars each one, twenty dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
I don't feel strongly because I think it could be
Beyonce and Taylor. But just to take the bet, I'll
take it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
I say, Beyonce, I heard what about you?

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
I got who you got?

Speaker 12 (01:48:41):
Nobody?

Speaker 7 (01:48:43):
It was Beyonce performing from a mind. But listen, a
remote location, remote location, Chicago. It would be good.

Speaker 6 (01:48:51):
It would be good for Tailor too, because you know,
remember they were putting out all those AI memes.

Speaker 7 (01:48:55):
This would be a good way for her to clap.

Speaker 5 (01:48:57):
Back to that. Agree.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
You know, guys, I think we might be honest. I
got goosebums, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
But you know what, even if that doesn't come tonight,
it's gonna be a high anyway, because.

Speaker 7 (01:49:07):
Absolutely I do believe Kamala Is I.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Mean president elect or Senator Harris, vice president, all the titles.
She's gonna bring it, And I think it's something we
hit on yesterday when we talked about her just sort
of settling.

Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
Into who she is.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Yeah, as long as you know, once you get through
the nerves of the stage and the lights and the
who all's looking, if she's sitting in her seat, if
she is if she is in her fullness, she's gonna
bring body.

Speaker 5 (01:49:31):
She's gonna bring it. Period.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
What you're looking for tonight, you can just like the
same question that we asked Julie and Quinton, what can
we what do we what can we expect?

Speaker 6 (01:49:41):
I'm looking for a combination of personality and policy. I
think we had this conversation last night, you know, because
I think we take for granted the fact that we
we do know her, and we've known her for a while,
but you know, to a lot of Americans, she is
brand new.

Speaker 7 (01:49:54):
So it is it is a let me allow me
to reintroduce myself moment.

Speaker 6 (01:49:57):
And I think, you know, if she couples that with
just like keep hammering home that that that message of
rebuilding the middle class and providing people opportunity to own
businesses and opportunity to own homes, and just I think
that's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Be I agree with you don't spend forever in the
policy bucket. But bring us enough, say she ate you
know we our appetites enough that we're going to be
interested in learning more.

Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
About the details.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
But also give us, give us the best of you
like give it, bring, bring it real so that we
can we can see your heart, but we understand your head.
And more than anything, that people want to know that
they can trust for the next four years that when
they wake up and when they lay down, that they
are in good hands. And I think that she, if
she can allow folks to walk away feeling that in

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their and their spirit, we're gonna be okay.

Speaker 5 (01:50:44):
I think she can do that. I trust that she
can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
But what I'm looking for is when I see her
out on the stage, I don't want the pretend that.
I don't want the smile, gracious face. I want her
to look like she's at home. I want the nervous cackle.

Speaker 18 (01:50:59):
Right begin.

Speaker 7 (01:51:03):
I want it right in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
To do so, let me let me say this. You know,
there are three things that I really want from Kamala tonight.
That first is Kamala as prosecutor. There was a time
just four years ago where her as a prosecutor was
an achilles heel, and now it is the thing that
people want the most.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
I want her to prosecute that case.

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
Against Donald Trump again for the America, before the American people.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
This is the largest audience she's had to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
I think the second thing I want is for everyone
who's saying, hey, Kamala doesn't have it on policy, I
want her to prove them wrong. I want her to
show them that her plans are solid, that is actually
working for all of the people, that it ain't. No
rise and tide lifting off Bosts is for the folks
who out there barely swimming. She's got them too. I
think the third thing that I really want is the
gratitude right. I want her to show that she's thankful

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for all the support that she's already got, that she
is willing and ready to continue to grow this base,
and that she challenges what Andrew so aptly called earlier
this pep rally, to go out and work to give
them all the tools they need, all the encouragement they need,
and all the excitement they need to go forward. I'll
tell you, guys, this election does feel a lot different

(01:52:13):
to me than it did in two thousand and eight,
and it feels better. And so I'm hoping that we
can stay in that and figure out how we get
across that finish line.

Speaker 3 (01:52:20):
It is going to come up so fast.

Speaker 6 (01:52:22):
You know, Angela, you said something that just made me
think about something that is a great point. I really
do want to know what the contrast for her feels
like from twenty twenty to now, because twenty twenty.

Speaker 7 (01:52:33):
There was no love, right. She had those of us
who supported her, yeah, and then people would just tearing
her down.

Speaker 5 (01:52:39):
They didn't want to hear anything about it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:41):
That's why everybody was so surprised about how the culture
and you know, the community just came.

Speaker 7 (01:52:46):
You know, for her.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
An eternity in politics. But I think, so what we're
looking forward to hearing tonight. It was something Andrew was
rude and left us last night, but when we were
all together leaving, I one thing that that Charlemagne mentioned
is the way politicians move and communicate. And I think
something that the American people or people in general appreciate
more than anything is authenticity for sure. And so I

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think if you come out and you speak in inauthentic
sound bites, if you are going out of your way,
to make certain sects of society comfortable.

Speaker 7 (01:53:23):
We are a more.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Sophisticated voting population now, a more sophisticated audience, and people
see through that. So I hope that she goes out
there as we've seen her so many times on this
campaign trail before, and shows her authentic self and makes
a compelling case before the American people that even if
you have been apathetic during this cycle, that you hear
her and you're so moved and inspired that you will

(01:53:45):
make your way to the election process. I saw Angela
Churches and I just want to say, the most adorable
little girl is welcome?

Speaker 5 (01:53:53):
Buy?

Speaker 7 (01:53:53):
Is that what.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
Little curly afro? And I just I love that this
is such a vision right there right there.

Speaker 6 (01:54:03):
Yeah, Tifinity just said something that's important too, because you know,
we've expressed this publicly and privately, like you know, when
things were looking very bleak earlier this year, and you
know we were all questioning, you know, saying we don't
think that this is a winnable ticket come November. You know,
we were saying to her, hey, you only got several
a few more months to really show people who you are.

Speaker 7 (01:54:24):
So for her to be able to show people who
she is in this moment now to be at the
top of the ticket. Oh my god, it gotta be.
It gotta be divine.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
We saw Dave Chappelle walk past early. I hate that
it happened at such a serious moment.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
Yeah, but I really want to say, Dave come up
here and talk to us.

Speaker 4 (01:54:39):
I said it was gonna come back, but he did
so band crump. But but here's the thing, y'all. I
think the reality of it is is we have said
it all and while we have five minutes left, I
think that's all good.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
We can go get situated.

Speaker 7 (01:54:54):
I need to don't get it drink. I'm gonna pee.

Speaker 6 (01:54:56):
I'm giving me some killer. I'm about to watch this.
I'm I'm really about to enjoy this speech.

Speaker 10 (01:55:01):
I want to take it all in.

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
I just want to enjoy this with y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
I think Tip said it best to at the top
of the program today when she said one day we're
going to look back on this as history, and we
were all here together. So I think God for y'all.
You guys have like I really am about to get
emotional this broadcast. Make me this broadcast.

Speaker 6 (01:55:21):
It's very hard to enjoy this moment though, because I
really think I know, but I really think we have
to get in the work.

Speaker 7 (01:55:29):
Molde right out. Okay, let me put because because it's cool.

Speaker 6 (01:55:32):
Right now, right, this is great, This is the coronation
of sorts. But November is where the real win is
supposed to happen. So I don't want none of us
to celebrate too much.

Speaker 5 (01:55:43):
Speak a Democrat.

Speaker 7 (01:55:46):
Talking about gonna say Michelle can't enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:50):
They shouldn't.

Speaker 7 (01:55:51):
Mama's speech should be the blueprint moving forward.

Speaker 4 (01:55:54):
For the next so many days seventy four, how many
days are left?

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
Hey, you might be able to appreciate this. My brother's
in business, and we saw him before. He's like this,
like the sales meeting, and then they go out and
they just they just.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
Like you, are you collected?

Speaker 7 (01:56:16):
I think he didn't want you to be able to cry.

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
He probably did everything he said.

Speaker 4 (01:56:20):
I cry all the time because I'm like skin, because
he's really the world, the onion. Anyway, the point I
was just going to make is, you guys have made
this broadcast extraordinary, and I hope that the people at
home y'all have enjoyed watching as much as we have
enjoyed doing this. This has been remarkable, Leonard. You came
on and put all the sauce on it, and we're

(01:56:40):
just so thankful.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
Wow, I'm just like a little garnish as the question personally.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
Let me, let me, let me just tell the parsley
the parsley that you've been so great and it's just
remarkable to watch you all move in your gifts and
so thank you for doing this, thank you for being
a part of Native Lampard, thank you for having an
idea for reasons choice and creating this space. I know
that we have invited, first of all, the best guest

(01:57:06):
period show on Everybody newscast nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
And can I say really quickly, I'm gonna interrupt Angela,
don't get don't start tearful, being tearful, But Angela almost
single handedly booked the show.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
She Angela, I want to get to come up here.
Can you come join you guys come up here?

Speaker 5 (01:57:26):
And I wish, I wish the whole because everybody see everybodybody.
But just know that there is a huge true there
are people.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
Behind the guys.

Speaker 4 (01:57:36):
We have social media folks working non stop, Harder and
Lolo have been incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
I am so grateful to y'all I want to put.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
On that's just so we're not getting the angry Nick.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
He's eating today.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
You will hear us talking about it all the time.
We say the angry Nick. They get tight, but it
keeps us.

Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
On task more than the book.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
The hell out of this show, Nick, what's been your
favorite of these past three three?

Speaker 5 (01:58:05):
Just what's your favorite?

Speaker 18 (01:58:06):
Just being here so much just happened bumping shoulders with everyone?

Speaker 5 (01:58:09):
Yeah, wow, wow, truly incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
Behind havn't newsom walking by?

Speaker 5 (01:58:15):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
I literally saw what's the banter behind the scenes.

Speaker 7 (01:58:29):
That Angela Robbie bringing the pillow. What I told you
just look down, look down, ignore, just look down, has
not been bringing you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:36):
You're be in trouble bringing up.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
We were going to lunch one day and we were
trying to ask Lolo questions and she was like, I
need to.

Speaker 5 (01:58:44):
Just not here.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
Though, if I could just say, really, cooy, somebody who's
not Lauren Hanson are executive produced, We're still.

Speaker 5 (01:58:52):
Adrink.

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
I know you're watching and you give us great feedback,
so I just want to shout you out as well.
Lauren Hanson are executive Forducer who also helps and all
the people I'm sure, we're forgetting the name some people,
but all the people behind the scenes. But Angela, I
don't want to get away with that because she Yes,
Lolo did a lot of work, but a lot of
the people showed up because of the work that Angela
does as a strategist, as an activist and being boots

(01:59:14):
on the ground. And so Lolo, yes, we know you
did a lot of work, but Angela, please don't dismiss
your relationships that you have with people. Answer and texting people.
She knows my phone will be all for days I
get back to people.

Speaker 9 (01:59:29):
Yes, people want to.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
People show up for her because you show up for them.

Speaker 7 (01:59:34):
So angel mother, I don't engage you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:41):
But that's where our guest list was better than every single.

Speaker 4 (01:59:48):
Speak now heard yesterday yesterday that no, no way, one more,
one more thing. I just wanted to say, thinks we
didn't do this yet, Andrew, we did the whole show.
Oh you're saying right now. I was just gonna say briefly,
I wanted to once again think our partners, black Pack,
Black voters matter. I want to think inspire Music Collective,
ed and way when I tell you I was having

(02:00:09):
a meltdown about us almost not having a stream because
to bring his equipment up. Ed drove in from Indianapolis
himself and assembled the team and it has been amazing.
We thank God for y'all. Dylan, y'all, Chris Morrow, We
love y'all. We cannot wait to get to the floor.
Leonard is going to get a drink. Were going to
the bathroom going.

Speaker 18 (02:00:46):
Thank you for joining the.

Speaker 31 (02:00:47):
Natives intentional with the info and all of the latest
rock Gulam and cross connected to the statements that you
leave on our socials. Thank you sincerely for the patients.
Reason for your choice is clear.

Speaker 7 (02:00:58):
It's so grateful to the execute.

Speaker 31 (02:01:00):
Roads, preserve, defend, and protect the truth.

Speaker 7 (02:01:03):
Even if we welcome home to all of the Natives,
we thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:01:08):
Welcome y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
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