April 7, 2022 • 28 mins
A new 40-minute documentary film from Citizens United Productions, “Rigged: The Zuckerberg Funded Plot to Defeat Donald Trump”, goes into painstaking detail of the plot orchestrated by liberal operatives who used the COVID-19 pandemic as an excuse for the private funding of government election offices with the intent to drive voter turnout for Democratic candidate Joe Biden. Newt’s guest is: David Bossie, from Citizens United Productions. He both co-wrote and executive produced the documentary. Watch it now at www.Rigged2020.com
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
On this episode of News World. In twenty twenty, almost
four hundred million dollars of Facebook Chief executive officer Mark
Zuckerberg's charitable contributions were spent, with most of the funds
funneled to government election officials in critically important jurisdictions for
Joe Biden to finance get out the vote efforts aimed
at defeating President Donald Trump. A new forty minute documentary
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film from Citizens United Productions, entitled Rigg, The Zuckerberg funded
Plot to Defeat Donald Trump, goes into painstaking detail of
the plot orchestrated by liberal operaties who used the COVID
nineteen pandemic as an excuse for the private funding of
government election offices with the intent to drive voter turnout
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for Democratic candidate Joe Biden. The documentary will premiere at
President Trump's historic Moralago Club in Palm Beach, Florida, on Tuesday,
April five, and we'll also be available for download at
www dot Rigged twenty twenty dot com. Here to discuss Rigged.
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I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, longtime friend, David
Bossi from Citizens United Productions. He both co wrote and
executive produced the documentary. David, thank you for joining us. Well, Nute,
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thanks for having me. It's really an honor to be
with you. And you know, we've done a lot of
things together over the course of our lives and I'm
just proud to be here with you today to be
able to talk about our film because it is so
important and obviously you played an important role in making
this film, giving us your perspective on it in the film. Well,
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you're talking to us from Mara Lago. This is the
day of the premiere of Rigged. How's it going down there?
You know, it's a beautiful day, which I think is
why people love to live here in Florida. We have
an enormous crowd. We have way more people trying to
come than we have seats, which is obviously a great
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problem that you and I like to have. But the
excitement of the film. People are thirsty newt for this information.
They have been told for the last eighteen months from
the mainstream media that nothing happened, and they've been told
by President Trump that the election was stolen, that it
was rigged, that somebody had put their thumb on the scale.
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And I believe what we have been able to do
here in producing this film, which is titled Rigged, the
Zuckerberg funded Plot to defeat Donald Trump. What we've done
is painstakingly gone through how Mark Zuckerberg's four hundred million
dollars was spent to run to get out the Vote
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operation on behalf of Joe Biden to defeat Donald Trump
and new Let me just put it in perspective as
we get started here, the Democrat National Committee in two years,
the twenty nineteen and twenty twenty cycle, their TV ads,
their online operation, their staff, their overhead, spent four hundred
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and sixty million dollars. Mark Zuckerberg spent four hundred million
dollars in the last one hundred and twenty days of
the election on only a get out the vote effort.
I just want to have people put that in perspective,
because big numbers, as you and I both know, they
roll off people. There's no context to it. Four hundred
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million dollars is doubled the DNC's budget, and obviously the
DNC was then able to spend instead of spending money
on their GOOTV effort, which takes an enormous amount of
time and money to do them correctly, they were able
to spend more on staff and more ads, and more
on those things that they wanted to do instead of
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the GEOTV effort. So we have a lot to uncover
and a lot to talk about. But it is a
big problem. People are excited about tonight. President Trump's excited
about tonight. I'll be honest with you, Knute. He's angry
that you're not here. I told him I wanted you
to come. Oh thank you for throwing me under the bus.
You're welcome hey anytime. Obviously, it means a lot to
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me to have you guys here and all the things
we've done over the years, I have to say, you
know close and I worked with you, I think on
eight documentaries, including the award winning Ronald Reagan Rondeu of
Destiny and Nine Days to Change the World about Pope
John Paul, the second which is still very widely shown
in the Catholic Church. But I'm curious and knowing how
you work and having worked with you so often, how
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did you think through doing this documentary and make the
decision Because this is a really well done film and
it showed real careful thinking to make it as powerful
as it is. And I' it's curious how you want
about that process. Well, first of all, thank you for
saying that. You know, it's a tough topic to try
to get your arms around. And one of the things
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you'll understand, nude, is that the money from the chan
Zuckerberg Initiative, the four hundred million dollars that they put
forward for this effort, was run through two five or
one C three's. One of them that got most of
the money is called the Center for Tech and Civic Life.
And by the way, the chan Zuckerberg initiatives chief strategist
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is David Pluff, which most people don't understand, and that's
Barack Obama's campaign manager is running the chan Zuckerberg Initiative.
And then you have Tiana EPs Johnson and Donnie Bridges
running the Center for Tech and Civic Life. And both
of those come from the New Organizing Institute, which is
an incredibly radical left wing operation and they train people
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in the digital dark arts and they're tremendous organizers. Be
with you. You You got to tip your hat to them.
They did an amazing job. But the Center for Tech
and Civic Life's budget newt in twenty nineteen was one
million dollars. Their budget in twenty twenty was three hundred
and twenty eight million dollars. Okay, so all the money
from the Zuckerberg operation flowed through their radical left wing hands.
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And that's what we recognized as a storyline. And I
got to tell you before, during, and after the election
of twenty twenty, I was involved in helping President Trump.
You and I were actually at the White House together
post election to meet with him to talk about those things,
because he had just placed me in charge of the
overall effort right after election day, and you were sitting there.
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I think you and I were actually in the residence
when they came in and told me I had COVID
nineteen and I had to leave the building immediately, and
so I was put off of that operation. But I
gotta tell you that didn't change the fight in me
and that I am determined to make sure that the
President is able to articulate why he says that the
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election was rigged and stolen. And I believe that this
is important because we're not relitigating twenty twenty. That's not
what this film does. This film tells the American people
just how they rigged the election in twenty twenty, number
one and number two Newton maybe equally as important to
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make sure they cannot do it again. That's the most
for now. I mean, look, Joe Biden is the president,
you know, and we can't undo that, but we can
make sure that they're not able to steal further elections.
And that's what I believe this film was important to
do well. I thought it was important because in a
film like this, you have people on screen who have
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actually been doing the investigations, people who actually had expert knowledge.
I was very impressed that you had an addition to
President Trump and Senator Ted Cruz, you had Attorney General
Jeff Landry, Congressman Claudia Tenney Kelly, and Conway Clida Mitchell.
I mean, you had a whole range of people who
had been actively involved in this. Particularly I think in
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Wisconsin they've done a remarkable job of going back and
taking apart exactly how many different things were going on
that were illegal and inappropriate. And there's no question in
my mind when you go to a place like Georgia
or Wisconsin that regged is the correct term, is more
than just election day. A lot of it was well
before election day, and it was designed to make sure
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that by the time you got to the election, everything
would have been structured to ensure a democratic victory. One
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thinks there was a big surprise to me. You describe
chan Zuckerberg Chan as his wife, and they have a
joint initiative that they gave money to two groups I
didn't even know existed, the Center for Election Innovation and
Research and the Center for Tech and Civil Life. I
don't know that there's any parallel on the Republican side
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to the way they operate and the scale of people
that they train and graduate in digital campaigning. That really
surprised me. I don't know what your reaction was to it.
I never heard of him either, Nude. I mean, look,
we're two guys that have been around the track a
few times, okay, and to not have ever heard of
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these organizations showed me that it's not about the organizations
these guys, you know, whether it's David Pluff or any
of the Obama operation, whether it's the chan Zuckerberg inniation,
they just use these organizations and then no spit them
out and create new ones because they want them to
be in the shadows. I think that CTCL did an
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impressive job with what they were given. I think that
they succeeded in defeating Donald Trump, and they shouldn't have
This money was through A five or one C three.
The only reason we even know about it, Nude is
because JT. Masternadi, leading my research team and are legal
guys all worked incredibly hard these nine nineties. The tax
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forms of CTCL only just became available in January of
this year, Nude, so this is all brand new, fresh information,
And much like the Hunter Biden laptop story, the mainstream
media doesn't want to cover this. They don't want to
give President Trump any opportunity to claim that he was right,
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and unfortunately for the mainstream media that continuously get it wrong,
just like with the Hunter Biden story. Two years of lying,
the mainstream media trying to tell the American people one
when another is true. And it's one of the reasons
that the American people don't trust the mainstream media anymore.
So I think we're going to try to force them
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new to cover their story. We'll see if we're successful
in the short term, but I have great confidence we
will in the long When I learned from your movie
that the Center for Tech in Civil Life thinking about
two thousand, five hundred grants for a total of three
hundred and thirty million dollars. I mean you were right
in earlier coming that they were a bigger influence on
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local elections than probably the Democratic and Republican national committees combined.
It's astonishing, Yeah, it is astonishing. Let me just continue
that thought. The Center for Tech and Civic Life gave
out three hundred and twenty seven million dollars in grants,
and there were twenty five hundred, and Zuckerberg defenders say, well,
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a majority of those grants went to red Trump districts,
So a majority of the twenty five hundred grants. And
my answer is what we have to follow the money, newt,
which is what I've done a few times in my life.
And what we found is there was only one hundred
and sixty two grants of the twenty five hundred, only
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one hundred and sixty two grants that were for four
hundred thousand dollars or more. And those one hundred and
sixty two grants accounted for two one hundred and seventy
two million of the three and a quarter. Okay, so
two hundred and seventy two million of the three hundred
and twenty five million were given out in one hundred
and sixty grants. Of those one hundred and sixty grants
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new ninety two percent of them ninety two percent, we're
in Biden districts. That's using the data. These people who
ran it were unbelievably successful and smart operatives. They knew
where to put the money and they knew how to
put their thumb on the scale. At the end of
the day, that number right there, ninety two percent of
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two hundred and seventy two million targeted at Biden districts
tells you everything you need to know well and you
go through in the movie, which I was fascinated by
that if you go state by state in Pennsylvania, eight
of the ten counties that got the most money went
for Biden, and Michigan was nine out of ten, and
Georgia was nine out of ten and Virginia was eight
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out of ten. So it's clear they were focusing the
money to maximize the turnout in Biden neighborhoods on a
scale that's amazing. This isn't money going for television commercials,
This isn't money going to pay staff, this isn't money
going for digital campaigns or radio at this is money
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to affect the election. So money that's being paid for
employees and equipment to actually run election day. That's the
scary part. And I notice in the film you focus
in on Michael Spitzer Rubinstein, who was in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
but is actually from New York. Why is he a
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perfect example of what Krbroog initiative was doing. It's a
really interesting story. And again I'll give out the website
Rigged twenty twenty dot com. Go see the movie and
learn a lot about what Newt and I are talking
about here. But Michael Gabelman, the former Supreme Court justice
in Wisconsin, very serious guy, not political whatsoever that I
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could ever see, is now the special counsel. He was
appointed special counsel by the state legislature to investigate this,
and he is who has uncovered a lot of this
information that's in this film. But he's the one that's
tried to get this Michael Spitzer Rubinstein to come to Wisconsin,
back from his home in Brooklyn, to explain what he
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was doing, and of course to no avail. These lefties,
they don't want to answer questions, They want to drag
any Republican that ever heard of Donald Trump before the
January sixth Commission, and the mainstream media plays right along.
But an investigation into what happened in Wisconsin, the mainstream
media and the Democrats want nothing to do with it.
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So Michael Spitzer Rubinstein he was in charge, and Justice
Gabelman says that he is an agent of Mark Zuckerberg
calls him an agent of Mark Zuckerberg in the film,
and I think that that's very powerful that he looks
at it as though that money coming through the Center
for Tech and Civic Life derived from the chan Zuckerberg initiative,
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creates a relationship that makes him an agent, an employee
of Mark Zuckerberg, which of course they deny. They're moving
these professionals all over the place to drive the system
and to get the outcome. The one I noticed a
recent article about Wisconsin as this former judge is continuing
his investigation, they had nursing homes that had ninety five
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and ninety seven percent boat turnout, including one hundred percent
of the people in the Alzheimer units. And I think
that was the service employee union making sure that everybody
got to vote, even if they didn't know they were
doing it. Yeah, nude. I've watched a lot of that
video nude of the nursing home patients being interviewed by
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lawyers for the Gabelman Commission, and these people it's really
heartwrenching to watch. They have no idea what they're talking about.
These elderly folks who are confined to these Alzheimer's units,
who have given up all legal rights. They sign over
and their family signs over all these legal rights. One
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hundred percent of them voted, I mean, and they're not
supposed to be voting. I mean, the actually part of
giving up your rights in these units is you're not
able to vote, and that you agree to that, your
family agrees to that. And then of course they came
through there and they meticulously got every single one of them.
And if we note that's what they did in Wisconsin,
we can expect that that was the blueprint that they
used in other states as well, which again goes back
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to the notion that all of this underpinning. That's why
I think the title of the movie so important, that
this was a rigged election. The game had been set
up before you ever got to election day, and your
point in the movie Rigged, the Zuckerberg funded plot to
defeat Donald Trump. When I watched it, I thought it
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was compelling and laying out the framework and having people
understand methodically, step by step how they have done this.
Now I'm curious because I think with your effort and
other similar efforts, we are actually seeing states that are
beginning to restrict this kind of billionaire interference in the
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election process. I think ten states have already passed laws
to ban or restrict the Zuckerberg style approach. What sheer
advice to people when they see the film, but what
is it they should ask their legislature to do. Yeah,
so it's actually nude. Every day that number goes up.
So when we made the film, and it's only been
literally a couple of weeks in the can but just
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last week Christie Nome signed legislation in South Dakota and
one other and so it's now up to twelve states
that have changed the law to close the ability for
private money to come in and fund these elections. Five
other states new have passed the law, but the Democrat
governors have vetoed it, and those are Pennsylvania and Wisconsin,
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or two of them in North Carolina, and so you
just have to ask yourself. I wonder why, right, I
wonder why? You know why they want to be able
to do it again. That's why we all know the
answer when you go back, and I do think you're right,
by the way, I think the Democratic governors who are
vetoing this are telling you they're not confident they can
win an honest election. If they can't rig it, they
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may not be competitive for the next generation. And frankly,
at the radio which they are failing to govern effectively,
you know, between inflation and immigration and all the other
things that are going wrong, I think they probably can't
win an honest election in twenty two or twenty four.
But when you look at all that and you think back,
because I know we were together during this period, I
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think I lacked the imagination to have the combination of
the big internet companies knocking off President Trump from being
able to communicate, blocking the New York Post from being
able to report accurately about Hunter Biden. I mean, combine
that with the Zuckerberg initiative. It was totally different than
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anything I'd ever experienced in a lifetime in politics. I mean,
did you have that same feeling of being sort of
what is going on and how can it be happening
like this? Yeah? Absolutely, I'm a jaded guy. I've seen
it all. I thought I had seen it all. I'm
not easily surprised by these things because I fully expected.
This was something that surprised me. This was something that
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shocked me. Using these two C threes as non partisan
organization to run the money through. To be quite honest,
it's brilliant if it's not illegal. And let me just
go to that for a second, because it's a very
important thing. Jeff Landry, who you mentioned earlier, as the
Attorney General of Louisiana, he back in October saw this
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money coming in through the Center for Tech and Civic Life,
and he sued them to stop the money from coming.
So he was able to slow down the money coming
into Louisiana. But then the lower court in Louisiana State
Court threw it out and he appealed, and just on
Thursday night, he won a three to nothing state appellate
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court ruling giving him the ability now to investigate this
further and get into the discovery newt So he's going
to be able to go and uncover the emails and
the text messages and the phone calls and the money
movements and who got it and why and where in Louisiana.
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And I believe if he is successful, and I believe
you will be, it'll be the blueprint for an investigation
in every state in the country. And he believes, and
Jeff Landry believes that it needs to begin with an
audit of ctcl's money in every state by every state
attorneys general. And so he's leading on this, and he's
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a tremendous attorney general. But I gotta tell you, he
is so happy right now that he won that appeal.
And now they're going to get into real discovery here
in the next month. These kind of things are starting
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to pile up. It's it's interesting to watch the American
system at work and the way in which both whether
it's Hunter Biden's laptop or it is the Zuckerberg effort
to rig the election, gradually the system is beginning to
unravel these things in a way that I suspect is
going to be very tough for the people who did them.
You've been investigating campaign corruption and other things for a
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very long time, and you know that there's a deep
streak in American politics, particularly on the left, of not
particularly respecting the law. They basically think, if you can
get away with it, why not. Hey, without question, you
look at what the Chinese were doing back in nineteen
ninety six New Right in funneling money to the DNC
and into Bill Clinton's reelection campaign. We uncovered it back then,
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and it's like that never happened. And by the way,
that was piker stuff compared to this. They were writing
checks for fifty thousand dollars, right, I mean, Johnny Chung
took a fifty thousand dollars check to Maggie Williams at
the White House, and that was a big deal. We're
talking about four hundred million dollars. Twenty years later, things
have changed a lot now. I think in that sense,
the effort of billionaire to undermine our entire system of
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self government, I think is very sobering, and I think
in my mind that's what Rigged was all about. I
mean Rigged, as you put it in the movie. You know,
they're a handful of very, very wealthy people who had
decided that the American people shouldn't be trusted with their
own country, and that these folks were going to step
in and make sure we had the kind of country
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they wanted, not the kind of country the American people wanted.
It's an amazing moment, it really is, and I hope
this film will be a small part of it. But
the Hunter Biden's story what Google and Twitter and Facebook,
like you said a moment ago, the big tech companies.
But the leadership of these big tech companies believe they
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know best, and so they throttled down. They choke out
any descent in America. They don't allow you free flowing ideas.
And you look at what they did to Donald Trump
in twenty twenty. They never covered him, they didn't allow
people to talk about him, they banned people from using
their sites. It's a dangerous time we live in, and
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I think we all as Americans have to recognize it
and fight back. Yeah, and I think that this movie
that you've done Rigged, it really gives you an example
of the degree to which, very methodically and very ruthlessly
they brought together very very smart people for the purpose
of subverting the democracy. I think it's very sobering. I
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want to thank you, David, because you know you're taking
time off. I think you're going to go next to
you see President Trump, and then this evening you're going
to have the premiere, which I think is going to
be fabulous. I'm going to do everything I can to
get people to look at the documentary. They can stream it.
All I have to do is go to www dot
Rigged twenty twenty dot com. So, David, thank you for
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taking time out of what must be an amazingly busy
day for you in Marilago. It is new, but I
gotta tell you I'd rather be nowhere than with you
doing this. And also, let me just say this, because
I never really got a chance to talk about this
much with you before this. To put this movie out,
we built a conservative Netflix for all of our productions.
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So when people go to Rigged twenty twenty dot com
and they see that movie, or they get a chance
to watch the trailer, depending on your computer, you're gonna
see the Reagan film, You're gonna see Nine Days, You're
gonna see all of the movies. Every single movie you
and I and Calista made are right there, readily available
for people to watch immediately. And so if you like
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the work that Newton Callista have done over the years,
just go to rig twenty twenty dot com and look
at the catalog of films and the quality of films
that we've made together over the years, and the films
that the three of us are incredibly proud of. I
mean all of them, but really, Ronald Reagan Rendezvous with
Destiny is a historic film in my opinion, and Nine
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Days that Change the world. There's no finer film on
Pope John Paul the Second, and it was just such
a great film to make together, and it lives on
till this day. Shooting that film in Poland and in
Rome with you it was both very much fun, but
it was also artistically a really important film, and that
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particular film Nine Days. And I've had cardinals tell me
they use it in their classes that they just think
it's a great introduction to John Paul a second. It's
an amazing film. I had a principle of a Catholic
high school just tell me last week that he uses
it in the school to this day. I mean, it's
an amazing thing. So I'm proud of these films, but
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the key is to have people watch them. So I
urge everybody to go see them, right and then if
you like them. Make sure you tell your friends and
start with Rigged. It's brand new, it's very important, and
it captures just how far the Left was prepared to
go to deprive the American people of an honest selection. So, David,
thank you, good luck today, say hi to the President
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for US, and I think you're gonna have a great
premier tonight. Well, thank you, Nut, thanks for having me today.
I appreciate it. We'll see you very soon. David. I
want to thank you for taking the time to join
me today and I want to wish you good luck
with the premiere at Maralago this evening. I think the
documentary is fantastic and I'm really happy personally to have
been a part of it. And I want to let
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our listeners know they can watch Rigged, Zuckerberg funded plot
to defeat Donald Trump right now by going to www
dot Rigged twenty twenty dot com. Thank you to my guests,
David Bosson. You can get a link to watch Rigged,
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On this episode of News World. In twenty twenty, almost
four hundred million dollars of Facebook Chief executive officer Mark
Zuckerberg's charitable contributions were spent, with most of the funds
funneled to government election officials in critically important jurisdictions for
Joe Biden to finance get out the vote efforts aimed
at defeating President Donald Trump. A new forty minute documentary
(00:29):
film from Citizens United Productions, entitled Rigg, The Zuckerberg funded
Plot to Defeat Donald Trump, goes into painstaking detail of
the plot orchestrated by liberal operaties who used the COVID
nineteen pandemic as an excuse for the private funding of
government election offices with the intent to drive voter turnout
(00:51):
for Democratic candidate Joe Biden. The documentary will premiere at
President Trump's historic Moralago Club in Palm Beach, Florida, on Tuesday,
April five, and we'll also be available for download at
www dot Rigged twenty twenty dot com. Here to discuss Rigged.
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I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, longtime friend, David
Bossi from Citizens United Productions. He both co wrote and
executive produced the documentary. David, thank you for joining us. Well, Nute,
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thanks for having me. It's really an honor to be
with you. And you know, we've done a lot of
things together over the course of our lives and I'm
just proud to be here with you today to be
able to talk about our film because it is so
important and obviously you played an important role in making
this film, giving us your perspective on it in the film. Well,
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you're talking to us from Mara Lago. This is the
day of the premiere of Rigged. How's it going down there?
You know, it's a beautiful day, which I think is
why people love to live here in Florida. We have
an enormous crowd. We have way more people trying to
come than we have seats, which is obviously a great
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problem that you and I like to have. But the
excitement of the film. People are thirsty newt for this information.
They have been told for the last eighteen months from
the mainstream media that nothing happened, and they've been told
by President Trump that the election was stolen, that it
was rigged, that somebody had put their thumb on the scale.
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And I believe what we have been able to do
here in producing this film, which is titled Rigged, the
Zuckerberg funded Plot to defeat Donald Trump. What we've done
is painstakingly gone through how Mark Zuckerberg's four hundred million
dollars was spent to run to get out the Vote
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operation on behalf of Joe Biden to defeat Donald Trump
and new Let me just put it in perspective as
we get started here, the Democrat National Committee in two years,
the twenty nineteen and twenty twenty cycle, their TV ads,
their online operation, their staff, their overhead, spent four hundred
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and sixty million dollars. Mark Zuckerberg spent four hundred million
dollars in the last one hundred and twenty days of
the election on only a get out the vote effort.
I just want to have people put that in perspective,
because big numbers, as you and I both know, they
roll off people. There's no context to it. Four hundred
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million dollars is doubled the DNC's budget, and obviously the
DNC was then able to spend instead of spending money
on their GOOTV effort, which takes an enormous amount of
time and money to do them correctly, they were able
to spend more on staff and more ads, and more
on those things that they wanted to do instead of
(04:04):
the GEOTV effort. So we have a lot to uncover
and a lot to talk about. But it is a
big problem. People are excited about tonight. President Trump's excited
about tonight. I'll be honest with you, Knute. He's angry
that you're not here. I told him I wanted you
to come. Oh thank you for throwing me under the bus.
You're welcome hey anytime. Obviously, it means a lot to
(04:26):
me to have you guys here and all the things
we've done over the years, I have to say, you
know close and I worked with you, I think on
eight documentaries, including the award winning Ronald Reagan Rondeu of
Destiny and Nine Days to Change the World about Pope
John Paul, the second which is still very widely shown
in the Catholic Church. But I'm curious and knowing how
you work and having worked with you so often, how
(04:47):
did you think through doing this documentary and make the
decision Because this is a really well done film and
it showed real careful thinking to make it as powerful
as it is. And I' it's curious how you want
about that process. Well, first of all, thank you for
saying that. You know, it's a tough topic to try
to get your arms around. And one of the things
(05:08):
you'll understand, nude, is that the money from the chan
Zuckerberg Initiative, the four hundred million dollars that they put
forward for this effort, was run through two five or
one C three's. One of them that got most of
the money is called the Center for Tech and Civic Life.
And by the way, the chan Zuckerberg initiatives chief strategist
(05:31):
is David Pluff, which most people don't understand, and that's
Barack Obama's campaign manager is running the chan Zuckerberg Initiative.
And then you have Tiana EPs Johnson and Donnie Bridges
running the Center for Tech and Civic Life. And both
of those come from the New Organizing Institute, which is
an incredibly radical left wing operation and they train people
(05:55):
in the digital dark arts and they're tremendous organizers. Be
with you. You You got to tip your hat to them.
They did an amazing job. But the Center for Tech
and Civic Life's budget newt in twenty nineteen was one
million dollars. Their budget in twenty twenty was three hundred
and twenty eight million dollars. Okay, so all the money
from the Zuckerberg operation flowed through their radical left wing hands.
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And that's what we recognized as a storyline. And I
got to tell you before, during, and after the election
of twenty twenty, I was involved in helping President Trump.
You and I were actually at the White House together
post election to meet with him to talk about those things,
because he had just placed me in charge of the
overall effort right after election day, and you were sitting there.
(06:45):
I think you and I were actually in the residence
when they came in and told me I had COVID
nineteen and I had to leave the building immediately, and
so I was put off of that operation. But I
gotta tell you that didn't change the fight in me
and that I am determined to make sure that the
President is able to articulate why he says that the
(07:08):
election was rigged and stolen. And I believe that this
is important because we're not relitigating twenty twenty. That's not
what this film does. This film tells the American people
just how they rigged the election in twenty twenty, number
one and number two Newton maybe equally as important to
(07:29):
make sure they cannot do it again. That's the most
for now. I mean, look, Joe Biden is the president,
you know, and we can't undo that, but we can
make sure that they're not able to steal further elections.
And that's what I believe this film was important to
do well. I thought it was important because in a
film like this, you have people on screen who have
(07:53):
actually been doing the investigations, people who actually had expert knowledge.
I was very impressed that you had an addition to
President Trump and Senator Ted Cruz, you had Attorney General
Jeff Landry, Congressman Claudia Tenney Kelly, and Conway Clida Mitchell.
I mean, you had a whole range of people who
had been actively involved in this. Particularly I think in
(08:15):
Wisconsin they've done a remarkable job of going back and
taking apart exactly how many different things were going on
that were illegal and inappropriate. And there's no question in
my mind when you go to a place like Georgia
or Wisconsin that regged is the correct term, is more
than just election day. A lot of it was well
before election day, and it was designed to make sure
(08:38):
that by the time you got to the election, everything
would have been structured to ensure a democratic victory. One
(09:01):
thinks there was a big surprise to me. You describe
chan Zuckerberg Chan as his wife, and they have a
joint initiative that they gave money to two groups I
didn't even know existed, the Center for Election Innovation and
Research and the Center for Tech and Civil Life. I
don't know that there's any parallel on the Republican side
(09:22):
to the way they operate and the scale of people
that they train and graduate in digital campaigning. That really
surprised me. I don't know what your reaction was to it.
I never heard of him either, Nude. I mean, look,
we're two guys that have been around the track a
few times, okay, and to not have ever heard of
(09:42):
these organizations showed me that it's not about the organizations
these guys, you know, whether it's David Pluff or any
of the Obama operation, whether it's the chan Zuckerberg inniation,
they just use these organizations and then no spit them
out and create new ones because they want them to
be in the shadows. I think that CTCL did an
(10:04):
impressive job with what they were given. I think that
they succeeded in defeating Donald Trump, and they shouldn't have
This money was through A five or one C three.
The only reason we even know about it, Nude is
because JT. Masternadi, leading my research team and are legal
guys all worked incredibly hard these nine nineties. The tax
(10:26):
forms of CTCL only just became available in January of
this year, Nude, so this is all brand new, fresh information,
And much like the Hunter Biden laptop story, the mainstream
media doesn't want to cover this. They don't want to
give President Trump any opportunity to claim that he was right,
(10:48):
and unfortunately for the mainstream media that continuously get it wrong,
just like with the Hunter Biden story. Two years of lying,
the mainstream media trying to tell the American people one
when another is true. And it's one of the reasons
that the American people don't trust the mainstream media anymore.
So I think we're going to try to force them
(11:09):
new to cover their story. We'll see if we're successful
in the short term, but I have great confidence we
will in the long When I learned from your movie
that the Center for Tech in Civil Life thinking about
two thousand, five hundred grants for a total of three
hundred and thirty million dollars. I mean you were right
in earlier coming that they were a bigger influence on
(11:30):
local elections than probably the Democratic and Republican national committees combined.
It's astonishing, Yeah, it is astonishing. Let me just continue
that thought. The Center for Tech and Civic Life gave
out three hundred and twenty seven million dollars in grants,
and there were twenty five hundred, and Zuckerberg defenders say, well,
(11:51):
a majority of those grants went to red Trump districts,
So a majority of the twenty five hundred grants. And
my answer is what we have to follow the money, newt,
which is what I've done a few times in my life.
And what we found is there was only one hundred
and sixty two grants of the twenty five hundred, only
(12:13):
one hundred and sixty two grants that were for four
hundred thousand dollars or more. And those one hundred and
sixty two grants accounted for two one hundred and seventy
two million of the three and a quarter. Okay, so
two hundred and seventy two million of the three hundred
and twenty five million were given out in one hundred
and sixty grants. Of those one hundred and sixty grants
(12:34):
new ninety two percent of them ninety two percent, we're
in Biden districts. That's using the data. These people who
ran it were unbelievably successful and smart operatives. They knew
where to put the money and they knew how to
put their thumb on the scale. At the end of
the day, that number right there, ninety two percent of
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two hundred and seventy two million targeted at Biden districts
tells you everything you need to know well and you
go through in the movie, which I was fascinated by
that if you go state by state in Pennsylvania, eight
of the ten counties that got the most money went
for Biden, and Michigan was nine out of ten, and
Georgia was nine out of ten and Virginia was eight
(13:16):
out of ten. So it's clear they were focusing the
money to maximize the turnout in Biden neighborhoods on a
scale that's amazing. This isn't money going for television commercials,
This isn't money going to pay staff, this isn't money
going for digital campaigns or radio at this is money
(13:37):
to affect the election. So money that's being paid for
employees and equipment to actually run election day. That's the
scary part. And I notice in the film you focus
in on Michael Spitzer Rubinstein, who was in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
but is actually from New York. Why is he a
(13:57):
perfect example of what Krbroog initiative was doing. It's a
really interesting story. And again I'll give out the website
Rigged twenty twenty dot com. Go see the movie and
learn a lot about what Newt and I are talking
about here. But Michael Gabelman, the former Supreme Court justice
in Wisconsin, very serious guy, not political whatsoever that I
(14:19):
could ever see, is now the special counsel. He was
appointed special counsel by the state legislature to investigate this,
and he is who has uncovered a lot of this
information that's in this film. But he's the one that's
tried to get this Michael Spitzer Rubinstein to come to Wisconsin,
back from his home in Brooklyn, to explain what he
(14:41):
was doing, and of course to no avail. These lefties,
they don't want to answer questions, They want to drag
any Republican that ever heard of Donald Trump before the
January sixth Commission, and the mainstream media plays right along.
But an investigation into what happened in Wisconsin, the mainstream
media and the Democrats want nothing to do with it.
(15:02):
So Michael Spitzer Rubinstein he was in charge, and Justice
Gabelman says that he is an agent of Mark Zuckerberg
calls him an agent of Mark Zuckerberg in the film,
and I think that that's very powerful that he looks
at it as though that money coming through the Center
for Tech and Civic Life derived from the chan Zuckerberg initiative,
(15:25):
creates a relationship that makes him an agent, an employee
of Mark Zuckerberg, which of course they deny. They're moving
these professionals all over the place to drive the system
and to get the outcome. The one I noticed a
recent article about Wisconsin as this former judge is continuing
his investigation, they had nursing homes that had ninety five
(15:48):
and ninety seven percent boat turnout, including one hundred percent
of the people in the Alzheimer units. And I think
that was the service employee union making sure that everybody
got to vote, even if they didn't know they were
doing it. Yeah, nude. I've watched a lot of that
video nude of the nursing home patients being interviewed by
(16:09):
lawyers for the Gabelman Commission, and these people it's really
heartwrenching to watch. They have no idea what they're talking about.
These elderly folks who are confined to these Alzheimer's units,
who have given up all legal rights. They sign over
and their family signs over all these legal rights. One
(16:31):
hundred percent of them voted, I mean, and they're not
supposed to be voting. I mean, the actually part of
giving up your rights in these units is you're not
able to vote, and that you agree to that, your
family agrees to that. And then of course they came
through there and they meticulously got every single one of them.
And if we note that's what they did in Wisconsin,
we can expect that that was the blueprint that they
used in other states as well, which again goes back
(16:53):
to the notion that all of this underpinning. That's why
I think the title of the movie so important, that
this was a rigged election. The game had been set
up before you ever got to election day, and your
point in the movie Rigged, the Zuckerberg funded plot to
defeat Donald Trump. When I watched it, I thought it
(17:15):
was compelling and laying out the framework and having people
understand methodically, step by step how they have done this.
Now I'm curious because I think with your effort and
other similar efforts, we are actually seeing states that are
beginning to restrict this kind of billionaire interference in the
(17:39):
election process. I think ten states have already passed laws
to ban or restrict the Zuckerberg style approach. What sheer
advice to people when they see the film, but what
is it they should ask their legislature to do. Yeah,
so it's actually nude. Every day that number goes up.
So when we made the film, and it's only been
literally a couple of weeks in the can but just
(17:59):
last week Christie Nome signed legislation in South Dakota and
one other and so it's now up to twelve states
that have changed the law to close the ability for
private money to come in and fund these elections. Five
other states new have passed the law, but the Democrat
governors have vetoed it, and those are Pennsylvania and Wisconsin,
(18:22):
or two of them in North Carolina, and so you
just have to ask yourself. I wonder why, right, I
wonder why? You know why they want to be able
to do it again. That's why we all know the
answer when you go back, and I do think you're right,
by the way, I think the Democratic governors who are
vetoing this are telling you they're not confident they can
win an honest election. If they can't rig it, they
(18:46):
may not be competitive for the next generation. And frankly,
at the radio which they are failing to govern effectively,
you know, between inflation and immigration and all the other
things that are going wrong, I think they probably can't
win an honest election in twenty two or twenty four.
But when you look at all that and you think back,
because I know we were together during this period, I
(19:08):
think I lacked the imagination to have the combination of
the big internet companies knocking off President Trump from being
able to communicate, blocking the New York Post from being
able to report accurately about Hunter Biden. I mean, combine
that with the Zuckerberg initiative. It was totally different than
(19:30):
anything I'd ever experienced in a lifetime in politics. I mean,
did you have that same feeling of being sort of
what is going on and how can it be happening
like this? Yeah? Absolutely, I'm a jaded guy. I've seen
it all. I thought I had seen it all. I'm
not easily surprised by these things because I fully expected.
This was something that surprised me. This was something that
(19:53):
shocked me. Using these two C threes as non partisan
organization to run the money through. To be quite honest,
it's brilliant if it's not illegal. And let me just
go to that for a second, because it's a very
important thing. Jeff Landry, who you mentioned earlier, as the
Attorney General of Louisiana, he back in October saw this
(20:16):
money coming in through the Center for Tech and Civic Life,
and he sued them to stop the money from coming.
So he was able to slow down the money coming
into Louisiana. But then the lower court in Louisiana State
Court threw it out and he appealed, and just on
Thursday night, he won a three to nothing state appellate
(20:38):
court ruling giving him the ability now to investigate this
further and get into the discovery newt So he's going
to be able to go and uncover the emails and
the text messages and the phone calls and the money
movements and who got it and why and where in Louisiana.
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And I believe if he is successful, and I believe
you will be, it'll be the blueprint for an investigation
in every state in the country. And he believes, and
Jeff Landry believes that it needs to begin with an
audit of ctcl's money in every state by every state
attorneys general. And so he's leading on this, and he's
(21:22):
a tremendous attorney general. But I gotta tell you, he
is so happy right now that he won that appeal.
And now they're going to get into real discovery here
in the next month. These kind of things are starting
(21:51):
to pile up. It's it's interesting to watch the American
system at work and the way in which both whether
it's Hunter Biden's laptop or it is the Zuckerberg effort
to rig the election, gradually the system is beginning to
unravel these things in a way that I suspect is
going to be very tough for the people who did them.
You've been investigating campaign corruption and other things for a
(22:15):
very long time, and you know that there's a deep
streak in American politics, particularly on the left, of not
particularly respecting the law. They basically think, if you can
get away with it, why not. Hey, without question, you
look at what the Chinese were doing back in nineteen
ninety six New Right in funneling money to the DNC
and into Bill Clinton's reelection campaign. We uncovered it back then,
(22:38):
and it's like that never happened. And by the way,
that was piker stuff compared to this. They were writing
checks for fifty thousand dollars, right, I mean, Johnny Chung
took a fifty thousand dollars check to Maggie Williams at
the White House, and that was a big deal. We're
talking about four hundred million dollars. Twenty years later, things
have changed a lot now. I think in that sense,
the effort of billionaire to undermine our entire system of
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self government, I think is very sobering, and I think
in my mind that's what Rigged was all about. I
mean Rigged, as you put it in the movie. You know,
they're a handful of very, very wealthy people who had
decided that the American people shouldn't be trusted with their
own country, and that these folks were going to step
in and make sure we had the kind of country
(23:22):
they wanted, not the kind of country the American people wanted.
It's an amazing moment, it really is, and I hope
this film will be a small part of it. But
the Hunter Biden's story what Google and Twitter and Facebook,
like you said a moment ago, the big tech companies.
But the leadership of these big tech companies believe they
(23:43):
know best, and so they throttled down. They choke out
any descent in America. They don't allow you free flowing ideas.
And you look at what they did to Donald Trump
in twenty twenty. They never covered him, they didn't allow
people to talk about him, they banned people from using
their sites. It's a dangerous time we live in, and
(24:04):
I think we all as Americans have to recognize it
and fight back. Yeah, and I think that this movie
that you've done Rigged, it really gives you an example
of the degree to which, very methodically and very ruthlessly
they brought together very very smart people for the purpose
of subverting the democracy. I think it's very sobering. I
(24:25):
want to thank you, David, because you know you're taking
time off. I think you're going to go next to
you see President Trump, and then this evening you're going
to have the premiere, which I think is going to
be fabulous. I'm going to do everything I can to
get people to look at the documentary. They can stream it.
All I have to do is go to www dot
Rigged twenty twenty dot com. So, David, thank you for
(24:47):
taking time out of what must be an amazingly busy
day for you in Marilago. It is new, but I
gotta tell you I'd rather be nowhere than with you
doing this. And also, let me just say this, because
I never really got a chance to talk about this
much with you before this. To put this movie out,
we built a conservative Netflix for all of our productions.
(25:09):
So when people go to Rigged twenty twenty dot com
and they see that movie, or they get a chance
to watch the trailer, depending on your computer, you're gonna
see the Reagan film, You're gonna see Nine Days, You're
gonna see all of the movies. Every single movie you
and I and Calista made are right there, readily available
for people to watch immediately. And so if you like
(25:32):
the work that Newton Callista have done over the years,
just go to rig twenty twenty dot com and look
at the catalog of films and the quality of films
that we've made together over the years, and the films
that the three of us are incredibly proud of. I
mean all of them, but really, Ronald Reagan Rendezvous with
Destiny is a historic film in my opinion, and Nine
(25:53):
Days that Change the world. There's no finer film on
Pope John Paul the Second, and it was just such
a great film to make together, and it lives on
till this day. Shooting that film in Poland and in
Rome with you it was both very much fun, but
it was also artistically a really important film, and that
(26:14):
particular film Nine Days. And I've had cardinals tell me
they use it in their classes that they just think
it's a great introduction to John Paul a second. It's
an amazing film. I had a principle of a Catholic
high school just tell me last week that he uses
it in the school to this day. I mean, it's
an amazing thing. So I'm proud of these films, but
(26:35):
the key is to have people watch them. So I
urge everybody to go see them, right and then if
you like them. Make sure you tell your friends and
start with Rigged. It's brand new, it's very important, and
it captures just how far the Left was prepared to
go to deprive the American people of an honest selection. So, David,
thank you, good luck today, say hi to the President
(26:56):
for US, and I think you're gonna have a great
premier tonight. Well, thank you, Nut, thanks for having me today.
I appreciate it. We'll see you very soon. David. I
want to thank you for taking the time to join
me today and I want to wish you good luck
with the premiere at Maralago this evening. I think the
documentary is fantastic and I'm really happy personally to have
been a part of it. And I want to let
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our listeners know they can watch Rigged, Zuckerberg funded plot
to defeat Donald Trump right now by going to www
dot Rigged twenty twenty dot com. Thank you to my guests,
David Bosson. You can get a link to watch Rigged,
(27:39):
the Zuckerberg funded plot to defeat Donald Trump on our
show page at newtsworld dot com. Newtsworld is produced by
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