Adnan Virk raves about his trip to Smashville before getting into it with Jason Demers about the playoff-hungry Senators, a slew of NHL trades and the rising salary cap. Then Columbus Blue Jackets star Zach Werenski stops by to talk about the upcoming 4 Nations Face-Off and share amazing stories about Auston Matthews, John Tortorella and Johnny Gaudreau. Producer Tal also hops on to talk about the Substance before Pete "Swaggy P" Lenes shares the highlights from his unique hockey journey.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart
podcasts Yeah Oh we are fired. Here a NHL Unscripted.
Thank you once again to the NHL and I Heard
(00:25):
for this collaboration. He's demers On Burke. It's always great
to have you with us coming up with this episode.
We're talking about a big time, big time couple of guests. Okay,
zach Arnsky might only win the Norris he didn't get
Heart Trophy consideration.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
He's been amazing for the Columbus Boo Jackets.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You're gonna love zach stories not only but Columbus, but
also fond remembrances of the late great Johnny Gudreau. And
also we're talking to Swaggy p. You know you've seen
all of his stunts. This guy can stick handle like
like the wind, and he's got some great stories just
about quite frankly unique locales that he's been to. Also,
by the in terms of non hockey talk, I cannot wait.
Cinephile in sixty I convinced Shady and producer Tale to
(00:59):
watch the substance, which is oscar nominated in a bevy
of categories. See me more right now is the favorite
to win Best Actors. Cannot to wait to hear the reaction.
Plus the Grammys, Everyone's still buzzing about Bianca Censori, Kanye
West better half, and her lack of an outfit.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
However, we kick.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Things off with my recent visit to Smashville, my first
time ever at a national Petits guy, I've been to
Nashville before, but JD, you talk about a perfect locale.
I mean you're literally right on Broadway. I can go
to Johnny Cash Museum.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And it burns, burns burns. You can go to Tootsi's.
You go to Justin Timblay's restaurant and then go watch hockey.
My favorite brother.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
The Pecky Arene statue outside just like Pecki Arena all
time great. You go inside. Now, this was a Monday
night only game in town. Auto Centers norther NHL games
on the Monday night. But when they score, I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I love it. I want some more of it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Nashville unique sensation, a unique place to watch hockey game.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean, I've never a statue of a guy that's
never won good goalie. Though Pecki is great, cold, we
never want.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I was taken aback. I'm like wow, Peck reading like.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Okay, I never I mean, you never want to cup
or anything. It's like, I'm not asking for a trophy
and not a statue in San Jose. But anyway, but
it's so fun. I called the game there a couple
of weeks ago, and I was calling for the Sharks,
and it's just a great When you're not a huge
hockey market, you need to be in downtown like that,
smack dab in the middle in the action. People are
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gonna come, people are gonna enjoy it. That's kind of
why it was always tough for Phoenix and Arizona to
work because they never just put it right down on
the heart of Scottsdale and let's ride. You know, they
had it downtown for a bit. It did well, then
they moved to Glendale. But it's that's why smash Pille works,
It's why Tampa works, just right in the heart of
the city.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Let's ride.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, it's great, man, And let's talk about this Attawa
Centers team because they're surging right now. You know, Brady
Chuck's a fun player to watch. I think most hockey
fans nobody brings the table. But I want to get
your thoughts specifically on Jake Sanderson because he's been terrific recently.
Our buddy Thomas Hickey, who you spent five hours with
on Coast to Coast last week with any Petrello, Hicks
was raving about him. Thomas was a lot long. Yeah,
by the way, I asked five hours ago. I loved
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it because it's a long shift.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm not gonna five hours and then I think there's
an overtime game or some nonsense. I know, you gotta
shoot yourself.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Thomas Hickey listened to this, so I'm gonna I'm gonna
be real nice with what I say. No, I love Hicks.
He's great. Hicks is like iced to my fire, you know.
He's he's very analytical, statistical, knows his stuff. And my
favorite thing is to try to get him to laugh
if I can get him to giggle, because he's like,
you could tell like the best joke and he's like, yeah,
that's funny, and you're like, oh god, I need to
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giggle because he's just he's that guy, like it's so stoic,
you know, like stoicism. He could teach it in a
class at Harvard, but I think.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It fits his hockey still time.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Be so good as a deep pairing together. It's just
it'd be so good. But yeah, back to the Ottawa Centers,
Jake Thomas Sandman, as you were mentioning the Senators, I
said he better team me up on Jake Sanderson. I'm
not joking in my head. I was like the Sandman,
mister Sandman.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Nice good song, rather than under Stamon to go to
mister Samon. I like it.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Our producer Steve Tronzano at Angel Network's gonna be so mad.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But Johnny Cash and mister Samon.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, but I digress. But yeah, this team is. You know,
I tweeted a couple of days ago, I said, I
am on the bandwagon. I'm rooting for this team. I've
been against them for two years at the network, saying
they got to show me something. I can't jump on
this bandwagon. I like the mix of guys they have,
and they're starting to believe. They're starting to play a
good defensive, structured system. You know, credit to Travis Green
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coming in and making it work. And I thought they
were kind of dead in the water losing Linas Olmark,
but then you know, Mari Linen comes in right story
shoots the lights out, and you know they're getting decent
and serviceable goaltending and they've just bought in. And you heard,
you know, I heard Brady Kachuk talk and he said,
you know, sorry not break. Chuck claud Dru was like,
(04:55):
guys are buying in. They understand that this is the
way we have to play if we want to make
the playoffs. We can't be an I. We have to
be a WEI And they're really bought in and it's
fun to want. It's a team that I'm rooting for
to make the playoffs because I'm sick of seeing the
Bruins in the playoffs and I'm sick of these other teams.
I want to see some new blood. Give me the sense.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Let's talk a little.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Money may not have been the biggest headline of hockey
this week, but it was the biggest news the NHL
and nhl P announcing Friday the team payroll ranges for
upcoming seasons. According to the memo, the cap will go
up to ninety five point five million next season, one
hundred and four million for twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven,
and what one hundred and thirteen point five million dollars
for twenty twenty seven, twenty eight. I don't need you
to break down the finances. I know you can go
(05:35):
to a different bank than me, but I want to
know this. Are you ready for one more pay day?
Can we get listen? You're still a young man?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Demurs comes back one more pay day.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I went to waste management today and you know it's
probably about a two mile jaunt from here. I mean
I jogged it and I I was good.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You're in good shit Still.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I played Men's League on Monday. I still got the juice.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I just need to work at it. I don't know
if my knees can hang on, but I could do
it though. I think I could maybe pull it off.
But yeah, it's a great you know, the league's built,
it's growing. It's probably the hottest hockey's been in a
long time. Uh, it's very fun to watch. I'm a
little worried at these teams in bad, bad tax states
and tax and especially Canadian teams struggled. Oh it's tough
(06:21):
right now, Like it this is gonna be tough for
you know, like this is a clear advantage for the
no tax states, Like this is so clear. So I'm
hoping the league kind of maybe looks at this and says,
how can we structure this? Maybe figure out a way
to even the playing field a little bit. But you
know they're gonna be able to play the top guys.
And the important thing is is I think we have
(06:41):
a way better product than a lot of these sports,
and it hasn't been reflected. And now it's it is
very it leans heavily on TV deals and stuff like that,
but we're starting to get that, we're starting to get
traction or social media presence growing. We have unscripted with
Vicin Demurs. We are bringing the juice.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You said last week you're not gonna talk about anymore,
and you have to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
JT.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Miller's on Broadway and JT. Miller is fired up to
be back with the Rangers. The vacover Cannucks make the move.
Who are they gonna trade? Well, they listen. They moved
Miller along with Eric Ranstrom, Jackson Dorington, the Rangers, Filipido,
Victor Mancini and a twenty twenty five first round pick.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Can you want more? We'll trade with you Moore. We're
not gonna trade Elias Pederson.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
How about Marcus Patterson and forward Joe O'Connor from Pittsburgh
for Danton Heyen, Vincent Deharney, prospect Melvin Fernstrom and a
twenty twenty five first rounder. The Canucks they should be
much better thatcher dam goes a top ten goal if
he's healthy and you're making moves and Miller's out, he
was a clubhouse cancer watch out for the Canucks.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
JD.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
It's just I don't they traded the wrong guy. I
wouldn't have got rid of J. C. Miller. Uh, listen,
but you can't listen there. They've they showed you who
they're betting on, and it's it's Elias Petterson, not the
d man, but the forward, the one making eleven point six.
I don't mind the Marcus Patterson trade. I think he's
a great underrated defenseman. I like what they did there.
Dre O'Connor is a great depth guy. But man, this
(08:01):
this has just been a side show for this Canucks team,
and I feel for the guys, the core guys there
that you know, had to deal with all of it.
And you know now you're hearing news that the JT.
Miller trade didn't sit well with a lot of guys
and it's not going to solve the room problems. And JT.
Miller goes to Broadway and scores two right away. It's
I have to give a shout out again to you know,
(08:22):
Brad Richardson at Missing Kirkfhew. We talked last night. I
was at his house for his fortieth. He's an old bastard.
But he was saying like when he left, I don't
know how long it was three three years ago from Vancouver.
He like went to Alvin and was like, hey, you
need to surround JT. Miller with veterans because you can't
lose this guy because he's invaluable because the way a
(08:44):
guy with jam like that that, Yeah, he's a little
bit you know, squirrely at times, you know, mentally yelling
and stuff like that. He gets very he gets very emotional, Yeah,
very emotional. But you need to surround with the good
veterans to be like, hey, like relax, you're good, and
you're gonna be able to harness that power and really
make him a dominant player, which he is. And they
(09:04):
just didn't do that, and they kind of said he
can run the team, and I don't think he's a
guy that can run the team. Like now he's in
New York. You got Crider, you got Zabanazad, which you
know it is what it is, but you got Pineron,
you get out in Fox. He can't go yell at
these guys because those guys be like hey, zip it
or be like listen, this just doesn't work with us,
and it's gonna work well. Like this Rangers team. I'm
(09:26):
not gonna say it, but this team could be back.
They're missing a d man, but they could be back.
They could sneak into the playoffs now. And wow, we've
been I've been all over them all year. So you know,
I don't mind the deals they made. And you've just
seen a team that's been galvanized by this trade by
getting JT. Miller versus a you know, you still hear
noise in a leaky ship from the Vancouver Canucks, which
(09:47):
it's a mess. It's a mess there.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, we're recording this on a Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
The Rangers beat Boston by the way, so, as you mentioned,
perhaps pushing towards the playffs Alder's been red hot too.
Speaking of the other New York team, they've been amazing
they're making to push towards the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But you have special incident on this trade.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Dallas Stars getting Michael Granlin and Cody cc from your Sharks,
a first and a third and twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The Flames also load up.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
They get Morgan Frostjowel Faby from the Flyers for Andre Kuzmenko,
Jacob Pelcha, a second runner and a seventh rounder. First off,
the Sharks, what are they thinking of trading Grantland?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
They had to and I think, you know he's up
this year. I'm hoping. I texted my career on the side,
you know, I just he probably doesn't even know that
it's me, but I just went keep cooking. That's what
I wrote, Keep cooking. I love that they got some
draft capital listening. Granlin is going to be a rental
for a team. I don't know if Dallas will resign him.
(10:35):
And Cody Sees is a very good depth defenseman, can
play up and down the lineup. But Mikaut Grantland's for
majority of this season been the best producing forward for
the Sharks. You know, obviously it's it is Celebrini's team,
but Grantland's a great veteran could play up and down
the lineup. He's skilled the place penalty kill. It's a
great pickup for Dallas. It's one of those trades where
both teams won and you've seen and I think the
(10:58):
Sharks have a really good development team.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, great news as far as San Jose is concerned.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Meantime, just thought here only because Ron Hexstall is gonna
get to shut out. He wasn't expecting their swaggy p
Interview Farraby O'Brien, Patrick Frost, Rubostov provoff Ron Hexstall. First
round picks no longer the Flyers. Now only Stanheim and
Travis Connecting are still around. Only one of his six
second round picks is still around. That's Ginning and three
or fourteen in the first two rounds. So a lot
(11:24):
of the guys at Ron Hextall picked are no longer
the Flyers. Danny Breer is clearly making his team his stamp.
What do you make of the Flames getting a couple
guys here in Frost.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And Farby, Yeah, I think listen. Craig Conry came out
and he said it clear as day. He said, these
guys earned the trade. You know, this Calgary team you
have Dustin Wolf a Calder Trophy. He's the leader right now.
He's the clubhouse leader. He went from plus six thousand
to I think he might be even money or getting close.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So do you think he's had a meetch Gov Hudson there, Oh.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, Dustin Wolf right now is the leader. He's the
club house leader. They lost last night, so it's gonna
be a little tough for him to kind of it's
gonna go. It's all gonna be dependent on if he
makes the playoffs. But sure they've earned this. And Craig
Connor and I love to see a GM had a
plan at the start of the season. He said, you
know what, these guys want to win. We're right there.
Why screw it, We're gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Go for it.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
We're gonna try to make the playoffs because these guys
are in it and it's not like they mortgage their future.
They brought in two guys that are gonna be part
of this court. Morgan Frost and Droel Faeriber are two
guys that could be very impactful for this team. Frost
kind of just didn't click with Tortorella. Hopefully he's going
to be better in Calgary and Farby's approven can be
a twenty thirty goal scorer yearly for this team. So
I think I love seeing a GM make this trade.
(12:36):
And I don't think they gave up much. They gave
up Kuzmenko. Kuzmenko's kind of struggled everywhere. He's gonna Yeah,
it ain't gonna be great for him, going to see
towards Maybe he works with Mitchkov but I don't know.
He hasn't really showed me much. He can score, but
I'm not sure. And then Jacob Pelchi, who can be
an NHL player. I don't know if he will fully
(12:57):
make the jump. We'll see. Hopefully he does, but there's
a perfect coach in John Tortorella to kind of usher
him in. So I'm interested to see how it works.
But I love this by Calgary and I think it's
a great vote of confidence shown to the players on
this team.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I completely agree.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I mean, if you spend any time with Ryan Husky's
and easy got a roof for so, I'd love to
see the Calgary Flames in the playoffs for Husky that
great market.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Of course at Calgary, they love their Flames.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, he's a real life Moonlight. Graham played one NHL game.
He told me the whole story. It's great, he was
because I wasn't going to be a guy, but they
gave me one game because I'd been in the organization forever.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And he goes, I played ten minutes because I remember
my first shift. I got my bell rug.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I did not play at all the third period, but
I got to play on the same is as Chris Chellio,
so it was great.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I see I got to play with me.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
All right, we'll get to Zach Arnsky in just a second,
but first master trade. One of my boys is a
huge Knicks guy. So we were watching Nick Lakers Saturday night. Oh,
I went to bed, turn on the awful game of it.
I'm like, how the hell the Knicks lose the Lakers
without Anthony Davis? Like as always, Lebron lighting up the
garden where Jordan used to always let up the garden
pisses me off away you go to buy wake up
six time I go, but this can't bleary eyed. I'm
(13:58):
rubbing the eyes. Goodnight, Luka. Doncic is now on the Lakers.
I'm like, what and I traded Anthony Davis with this case?
How does this always happen to Lakers, Like, how do
they get the guy agree he was twenty five years old,
about to be twenty six, won the great superstars in
their game, carried the.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Mavericks the NBA fils.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Last year, he gets traded for a thirty two year
guy who's been great, ten time All Star, but he's
made of glass, Like.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
How are you getting?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You're getting Luca Dodgers for Anthony Davis and Lebron's and
he had no idea jd.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
This is honestly, it's historic trade. They say it's the
first time ever.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
NBA history two guys who have been All nbas many
times that they have been traded mid season.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Stunning.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
First first off, you said something that I didn't. I
want to let you finish. But Lebron James not knowing
is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. The guy,
the guy owns half the league with China. Give me
a break, Lebron James. I don't care how good he is,
Hall of Famer, one of the best, the goal the
go I think he's not tell me that.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Guys now twenty eight a game, He's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Do not tell me that guy's not run by China.
It is what it is. It's fine. He owns a
third of the league. Okay, and I Eithersten, we might
not get air time. It is what it is. It
is what it is. You do I say this, I
say this once every show you do you boo, you
get that paper boo boo. But listen to say that
he didn't know that it's his team. He's been running
(15:16):
this team for years. He made a hell of a trade.
He he had a podcast with JJ Reddick and then
the guys as coach. Oh what I don't know? Yeah,
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
This is.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Ridiculous, Like, let's just he should just come out and go, yeah,
I'm the GM. Just deal with it and everybody be fine.
But this is gonna go down as one of the
worst trades in history by the Dallas Mavericks. This is
a twenty five year.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Old stat Luca the reason why?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Who cares if he's yeah, he likes to have a
couple of Medellos or corps lights give him a break.
The guy's lights out, and he's a gamer. You can't
teach gamer, and you can't specifically an NBA, which is
a soft league. You cannot teach a gamer like Luca
can I guys like taped up all over the place
and taking his team to the fires. It's it's egregious
(16:07):
that this trade. This is the kind of trade where
you clean house top to bottom. So I mean, listen, great,
I'm gonna say, lebron James, fantastic GM work. It's incredible work.
But don't say you're don't say you didn't know. Did
not say you did not know. Don't lie to me.
If I had his power, you kidding me? I would
be wheeleding that swinging it around. I would who cares? Yeah,
(16:31):
his son's on the team. His son is not. His
son's a great G League guys, and he played.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
He's awful. I had to watch it. This is a
good place there.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I root for I root for Bronni, I root for Brod.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The highlights last night, his first three pointer, like this
is really like Bronnie James.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
As you said, his league, correct, it's his league.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
He owns a third of the league. The fact that
I had to watch on Sports Center Kevin Durant and
these miserable sons ye showing having the trainer runs out
giving these guys their cell phones and they're on their
cell phones, like tweeting.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Your use you got a game going on?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Can you imagine I'd tell you what if I grabbed
a cell phone.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
JT. Miller gets traded and you're in the coduck you
could grab yourself and hey, you.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Guys stabbed in the neck by somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Hick Tacket would do it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Rick would kill me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Very unexpected and entertaining takes there from Jason Burr's Now
it's time for Zach Warenski, who is having a hell
of a season and he's a terrific guest.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Here he is episode ten and what a get for us.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Drafted eighth though raw B of the Columbus Blue Jackets
in the twenty fifteen draft. After starring at the University
of Michigan, he went pro immediately won a Calder Cup
with Lake Erie in twenty sixteen. He is currently enjoying
a career season for the upstart Blue Jackets. He's not
only in the conversation for the Norse Trophy, but he's
also in the conversation for the Hart Trophy. Zach Warnsky,
Welcome to nhln SCRIPTO. Great to see him, man.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Thanks for having me on, guys, I appreciate it so.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Partner in crime Jody Shelley said, you all, you're going
to love Zach, and we already love because you're two
minutes early.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Demurs.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Right now, he's gonta run the wate banagement open and
you're early. You're locked in, So I love it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Listen, it's an amazing season you're having. I'm sure you're
a humble guy and a team guy, but talk to me,
how did you go from a good player to like
literally a legit.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Great defenseman in the North Trophy conversation.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yeah, I mean I've kind of said this the last
few months. I really don't think I've done anything differently.
But if you look at our team, look at Kroll, Marchenko,
Ken Johnson, Adam Fantaille, like all these young guys are
having great years. And when you're passing the pluck, the
guys that have confidence and are scoring goals, the points
just start to come. So, to be honest, I really
haven't done much differently. Sean Monahan has been a great.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Addition for us.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I feel like he's really been a superstar on our
team that doesn't get talked about enough. But yeah, just
like the guys I mentioned, guys just took step forward
this year and it's just been a lot of fun.
Our powerplays, click in, our top lines, click in. You know,
we're just clicking as a team. So I feel like
I really haven't done much different, just kind of playing
my game, and he had the points you're starting to
fall for me.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Zach, talk to me, thanks number one. Thanks for being
on man. I'm such a fan of your game, and
I just wanted to ask you because I dealt with
a lot of injury stuff when I played, and I
know you kind of caught the injury bug, stuff that
you couldn't really control. You know, how was it mentally
for you? Locking in and you know, things that you
learned throughout your career health wise, it's kind of helped
you because you know, you look fantastic. You look faster
(19:29):
than you've ever been this year.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, no, I appreciate that. Yeah, injuries are tough. I
mean everyone goes through them. I think that's the main thing.
I feel like for me, I've had some pretty tough,
tough luck with it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I feel like two seasons ago, when I pretty much
missed the whole season, I definitely.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Learned a lot about myself, found ways to contribute outside
of just playing the game's trying to be more of
a leader in the room, trying to learn from watching
on TV more and then just getting out, getting out
in the Columbus community and doing things, visiting the children hospital,
visiting people in my suite, first responder stuff like that.
I just felt like I really grew as a person
(20:06):
that season, even though I wasn't playing on the ice,
and then you kind of learn about people and the
people you're playing for in the community and the city.
And for me, the one thing that I learned a
lot was I kind of always knew it, but I
feel like when you go and see people that are
going through stuff, you know, real life stuff. Going through
an injury is really not that bad. So I'm fortunate.
(20:27):
I'm very fortunate, and I feel like, as tough as
it was to miss the whole season, like I said,
people go through.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Way worse things.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
And just did what I could to get healthy and
learn as a player, and yeah, here we are. So
it's in a sense it was rewarding, but definitely sucks
being out.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Your head coach. Dean Everson's don an unbelievable job.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
He's in the conversation right now if the jack abs,
especially if you guys can make the playoffs, looks like
a scary dude. Zachi Hair's in the back of my
next stand up, but I just look at it. But
then I hear him speaking. He's pretty funny, pretty entertaining.
What's the story you can tell you about Dean in
the locker room?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
He's awesome, I mean honestly, Like when we first hired
him and he called me the first time, I was
I kind of had that same reaction as you, like,
I was a little bit nervous, a little scared, not
too sure what to expect. And he's been He's been
the opposite. To be honest, He's awesome being around the room.
He likes joking around. He keeps things super light. I
don't have any like great stories right now. I guess
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he What I like.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
About him is he just leaves us alone. Right.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
He comes in, we do our work, he shows video,
and then he treats us as adults and pros and
let's us do our thing. And I felt that's why
we're responding well to him, right. He just knows how
to how to handle us. He's he's not keeping us
there for two hours and doing unnecessary stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
He gets us in, he gets us out. He wants
us to be home with our.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Families and and wives and dogs and all that stuff,
and guys that have kids.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So I really enjoyed playing for him so far.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
How do you find? You know, I go back to
when you started in Lake Erie. You you know you're coming
too the league. In the HL, you win the Calder Cup. Like,
how great of a season was that? Because when I started,
I was so grateful to have a year in the AHL,
because I found I learned so much more than in
Find I'd just been as a young pup in the NHL.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
I feel like I feel like people, especially young guys nowadays,
I kind of get that thought of burning a year
or playing one game at the end of the season
and then you know, getting.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
That year aventry level gone.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
But if it was up to me, I would tell
everyone to go to the American League, and especially college
guys at the end of their seasons, go to the
American League, go on a playoff run and understand what
it's like to be in the grind of it.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Play a three and three, right, you don't have those
in the NHL.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
But you understand the grind of it and the bus
and you place, you know, I think for me, it
was a seven o'clock game in Rochester, seven o'clock game
in Toronto, and then at three o'clock game.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
In Lake Eurie or in Cleveland, so awful.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Yeah, it's tough, right, So you kind of understand the
grind of it, You understand kind of the ranks of it.
You know, you're being a young guy. There's guys that
are thirty five years old and pros with kids and
living on your own and all that stuff. So I
can't say enough good things about my experience in Cleveland
and especially winning too.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Right. I was with those guys for two.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
And a half ones and some of those guys are
still great friends of mine that I talked to all
the time, and it's great seeing them in rinks or
wherever it may be. And yeah, it was up to me,
I'd recommend everyone to kind of go that route.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So the usn T DP, this team, Zach is Insane,
Jack Eichel, Alex Tuck, Dylan Larkin, Austin Matthews, Charlie McAvoy,
Matthew could Chuck, Noah Hannavan, Jack Rosslovic. I mean, Sonny Milano,
Christian Fisher, Jordan Greenaway. How dominant was that team and
now seeing this journey of all those guys.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Yeah, so it's kind of split half. Those guys were
you eighteens when we were you seventeens. But yeah, you
get called up and you all play together a few
games and whatnot, and yeah, it's pretty incredible if you
look back on it. Obviously, when you're there, you're not
really too sure what to expect or how guy's careers
are going to pan out. I remember Austin matthew Is
at the forty camp before our first year. Everyone's like,
(24:07):
who's this kid from Arizona, Like, no one's heard of him.
He's scoring every game, scoring every shootout, and here he
is one of the greatest goal scorers in the game.
So it's been fun to see. It's been you know,
especially this Four Nations coming up after that kind of
every wen on the USA team and it's been ten
years ago, we played together, twelve years ago, whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It is so.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Definitely crazy when you look back on it, and CSCO
those teams were. But yeah, no, I'm really looking forward
to the Four Nations and getting with those guys again, you.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Know, going to Four Nations and and you're going to
be in Montreal and Boston. But you know, who's the
guy out of that list that you're really excited to
play with? And then who's the guy that you know
you're looking to play against, you know in this format
you know, country on country.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yeah, I think for me, I think Austin's a big
one that I'd like to play with, you know right now,
Jack eich Old, the Hughes Brothers, Chuck Brothers. I just
think you go down the list and you can find
you can find a reasons you want to play with everybody,
right or stories about you want to play with everybody.
And I think that's the exciting part about it for us,
(25:11):
says everyone so close and kind of just getting everyone
back together again is going to be awesome. And then
in terms of guys I want to play against, I mean,
I think it's hard to not say Canada, right, and
Sidney Crosby and McDavid and McKinnon. I'm anxious to see
how their lineup ships out because there's so many good players, right,
and I think that's just gonna be awesome at the
Bell Center on a Saturday night lining up against Sid
(25:34):
and like I said, McKinnon and McDavid and mccarr and
and all these superstars in the league. It's it's going
to be exciting. It's going to be a challenge, but
that's that's why you play the game, right, So I'm
excited for it.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
You know, you've you've you kind of went on a
huge euro trip with Lark and so I'm sure you're
excited to play with Dylan Larkin. But like, tell me
about that trip and any other trips kind of planning.
I know this one kind of screws up your a
Cabo trip or something. But how was that hero trip
and where'd you go?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
We started off with Dylan's bachelor party actually, so we
flew into London and then took the train to Manchester.
We saw Cold Play in Manchester on Thursday night and
then took the train back to London on Friday. Friday
just kind of had a guy's day, bounced around pubs
and bars, grabbed dinner, and then Saturday we went to
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the f A Cup Final, which was man City versus
man U at Wembley, which was an insane weekend right
for a bachelor party.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
It was awesome, so hats off to him for thinking
of that.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
But and then on Sunday we just chilled, some guys
left and then Monday me and him flew to the
south of France where my fiance and his wife met us.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
And spent ten days there.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
And then we went to Paris for a night and
we stayed actually for one more day to see the
French Open final.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Djokovic was in it, so like I had to see that. Yeah,
it was a crazy trip, right, like no, like to
like the two best weeks in my life.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
So yeah, the hats off to him because it wouldn't
happen about him him setting up that bachelor party, so
it was it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I got to hear more just as a sports fan.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I'm not a huge soccer but I just imagine Man City,
Man you at Wembley, I mean, how do you compare
to that?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
To North American sports?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I don't even know, to be honest.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
It was like I wasn't a huge soccer fan, and
now I'm hooked after going to that game. Like I
love the Premier League now, I love when it's on TV.
I love Bondesliga, I love all the leagues, Like I
try and watch as much as I can now just
to see how crazy those fans are, see the atmosphere
of the game. And then I watched the documentary on Netflix,
the Treble documentary or it's called Trouble Winners on Man City,
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and those guys are so similar to us in a sense, right,
how they interact and how they're in the locker room
and how many games I play. So I just find
it fascinating now. And in terms of comparing it to
you know, North American sports, it's I don't even know
what you compare to crazy college football game.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I guess I don't know. Probably that on steroids, but it.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Was I have to ask you because it's just a
quick you know. I shout on the Toronto Maple Leafs
Lower Bowl and I was kind of saying, I feel
like the NHL should eventually get to like a small
section that's whether it's student section or just rabid fans,
kind of like they do in soccer. I don't know
how you think that would fare in the NHL and
in North America.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're spot on right. Like
I love playing in Toronto. It's the biggest market in hockey,
but it is it is pretty quiet for the most part,
and a lot of that that is the prices of
the tickets, and I feel like it's takes the fun out.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Of it a little bit.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I think the Clippers, if I'm not mistaken they're one side,
is they wanted to make it like a student section.
So yeah, I think that's a great idea. I think
more sports league should do that. I think they should
have more chances during the games and get people more
into it. And yeah, I mean, you go to these
soccer games and these college football games and atmosphere is insane,
and then you go to Maple Leafs game and it's
(29:02):
it's just different. You know, It's it should be like
that everywhere, But I guess I don't know how you
do that. Sides make tickets cheaper and they won't do that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Also true, Yeah, I work on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I've had a blast and there's been rumors with the
fact that Amazon cameras have been following you around. Any
truth to the fact we can see you on Face
Off season two.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Uh yeah, yeah, I don't know if I'm supposed to
say that or not, But it's not just me it's
it's our team in Columbus here and they're doing a
little thing on John, and yeah, it's gonna be a
it's gonna be great just to kind of get an
ancy look on how we live here in New Albany
and Meredith and the kids and just kind of what
everyone's gone through here. So yeah, excited to show the
hockey hockey world, but what we're doing here in Columbus.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
How was that experience personally for you with just having
the cameras around, especially you know, during those times and
those tough times.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Yeah, well they weren't there right at the start of
the year. They've come around more recently, so I guess
we've kind of had time to get, you know, acclimated
to it a little bit.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But definitely different.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I mean, I'm not used to having the full camera
crew around me, so I'm kind of a shy guy,
so it's definitely not in my comfort zone. But I
think it's just great what they're doing in this episode
on John and just kind of celebrate his life and
how much he means to everyone around here. And and yeah, no,
I mean it's it's gonna be awesome. So I'm excited
(30:27):
to see what they come up with in terms of
one episode of it.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, on the lighter side of things again, as Jason
and I said, we both think you're firmly in the
conversation for some hardware. Speaking of hardware, the Grammy Awards
has happened, and the Oscars are a few weeks away.
Your choice, you can the talk about a movie you've
seen which is up for some Oscars, or if you
had a chance to watch you the Grammy Awards.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I didn't get to watch any of the Grammys. Maybe
I'll watch the Oscars. I don't know. You're pretty busy
at nighttime or watching sports or whatever. But it's really
not my cup of tea, I guess. But I saw
some of the outfits from from the Grammy's are pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Or the yeah you creep.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah, I know, I think we all are.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, I know, I mean I listen. I looked at
it a couple of times and said, Jesus, yeah, there's
a different angle. Yeah it's it's they're all a mess
out there, completely mess. But I wanted to ask a
little bit, you know, going back to the start of
your career in Columbus, and you know, obviously I'm sure
You've had to tell a million Tortorella stories, but I
(31:33):
just wanted to ask more on the note of like,
what's one thing that you you kind of learned from
Torts that you're like, not many people know about him,
that that's why he's had such a long career as
a coach in the NHL.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Yeah, I mean, I think the thing with Torts and
it definitely gets mixed up in the media a little bit,
it's just how good of a person he is.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I don't think people understand that.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
If you talk about a family guy or a guy
that wants you to be around your your family, like
he's he's the one. He gives you so many days
off just.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
To be home with.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
You know, your your wife and your kids and whoever's there.
And my first year in the league. Actually this is
not a sad story, but it kind of said, but
my first year in the league, we were I think
five days away from playing my first game at home
in Detroit at Joe Louis, my grandfather passed away, and
I told towards that and he's like, go home. I
go home and skate by yourself, Like we don't want
(32:29):
to see you be around your family. So for like
five days, he just gave me my year, didn't didn't
He called and checked in on me, but didn't really care.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
He just trusted me, let me go home. I was
skating alone.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
And then the first game at Joe Louis, he starts me,
you know, opening and I haven't practiced with the team
at all, And I just think that goes a long way, right,
Like he could have been he could have been like, hey,
once we land, you can go home for a few
hours or go home for the night.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
But he was like, no, get out of here, like
you don't need to be here.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
And that always leuck with me my first year, I
think I was two three months in a manhl career
and that was a moment for me where I just
had a lot of respect for him and that always
with me. And I feel like people don't see that
side of him.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah he doesn't. He doesn't get enough of it. And
you know, everybody kind of tells the funny stories but
never like what he's kind of how he's impacted guys.
But you know, I wanted to, you know, finally touch
on I know we touched on Johnny a little bit,
and you know, I've interviewed Adam Fantilly and then I've
also interviewed man Giapane, and you know, we kind of
asked just about at the end of the interview, like, hey, listen,
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you know, Johnny's gone but not forgotten, and we just
want to know more of like a lighthearted, like a
funny story that would give a little bit of insight
into Johnny and a cool memory that you have that
you've taken with you, you know, being around him a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yeah, I know there's so many good stories. Only play
with him for two years, and I think I've played
with him my whole career, from sitting across from him
at the card table on the plane calling everyone a donkey,
and you know what, like my first year, he actually
used to drive me nuts because he would be the
last guy to show up to the rink and the
first guy to leave. And I was always like, like,
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why is he doing this? And it was just because
he wanted to get home to his wife and kids.
And I think I've learned so much from that where
now like I don't go to the rink longer than
I have to be at the rink, and I feel
like more people should kind of take advantage of that.
Like there was times I'd sit at the rink and
be like, oh, I'm a pro, I'm just sitting here.
(34:25):
I'm at the rink for four hours, but I'm not
getting anything done. Yeah, And I think what I've learned
the most from John is like, go to the rank
and enjoy it. Be there for an hour or two
hours and do your stuff and get what you need
to get and then get out of there, get home
and be around the ones that you love. And yeah,
I've learned. I think that's what I've learned the most
from him in that short amount of time. And honestly,
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I think it's a big reason why I'm having success
this year too, is I'm not just spending hours at
the rink for no reason and thinking about hockey all
the time.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
And so yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
No, I mean, he's he's awesome and we miss him,
but yeah he's gone.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Never forgotten. Love sharing stories on him and talking with
the guys about him.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
That's such a cool story.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I love that. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
It works smarter, not harder, necessarily more efficiently, and obviously
family first.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Zacharnci's having a tremendous season.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
The Columbus Blue Jackets, and as you can see, he's
a thoughtful guy at a great dude Athias as well,
Zachar pulling for you man, not only for you, but
also the Columbus Blue Jackets.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Keep it rolling. Thank you so much for your generosity today.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Swaggy p is coming up home and Tarily you know
whim you love him obviously, all those great stunts and
great stories behind the scenes, old friend of JD's. But
now we'll do a little bit of Cinophile and sixty.
A quick thought on Carlos Sophia Gasco if you who
is that. She made history as the first trans nominee,
and now he's lit herself on fire with this controversy
which is going on. I have never seen a person
get nominated for an Oscar and then the campaign just
(35:50):
completely blows up. They found her tweets in the past
in which she said Islam should be banned as a religion.
She had some shots at George Floyd, lots more stuff,
and now Amelia Price, which had thirteen nominations which we
denigrated a year ago. If they could rescind the nomination
to her, they would, I mean Jacquo de Here, the director.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
They asked, have you spoken to her? He's like, no,
I haven't. I don't have anything to say about it,
and I don't like her.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
No, they asked Zoe Seldona, who's the favorite twin sporting
actress Oscars? Because I don't want to speak about it.
I distanced myself from those comments. Selena Goma is like, nope,
I have nothing to say about that. No, They've they've
changed the rules for this year's Oscars. They only do
a fab five to get previous winners get out there.
They go, No, nobody wants to talk to this chick.
She went from like I was a man, I'm now
a woman, I'm a trendsitder like no, no, actually you're
(36:31):
a biggot. Nobody likes you. And it's it's literally single
handily killing Amelia Presze's chances.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's unreal. I've never see anything like it.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Is It isn't Selena Gomez didn't she take down and
tweet as well. She's crying something. They're having a tough
go present and it's a weird movie again, ball don't lie, all.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Right, and now we get some all they're waiting for.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I had to I had to push JD and Tale
to watch the Substance, which is just gonzo filmmaking.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Coralie Fargiets a director.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
It stars to Me Moore, it stars Margaret Qually, and
it's a film about the way females are viewed in
the industry, the way they're misrepresented or represented that the
shaving they have to go through, all these kind of attributes,
and you think you've kind of seen a film like
this before, and then it gets to the file thirty
minutes if you've never seen a movie like this before
without further ado. I want JD's reaction, I want towels
and I cannot wait for either.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Jason, the floor is yours.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It was thirty minutes too long to maybe an hour again,
like we could have got there quicker, I listen. I
actually again, you know a lot of gratuitousness. But acting
was good. It was a good premise. I enjoyed it
at the start about you know, you know trading you
are one, This is you know, it's this is part
of you. This beauty is within you, and don't let
(37:46):
it corrupt to you. This the beauty, you know, you
can go as deep as you want with it. Or
is That's what I like about it is you can
really think about it deeply or just be like, you know,
it's a good, exciting movie. I like the premise. I
thought it was really cool about the links at which
women go to keep their beauty be successful, and it's
a very tough cut through an industry and even within yourself.
(38:08):
So I just thought like, I was very impressed by that.
I like the acting. It just went off the rails
for me a little bit when they have like the
fight scene in the in the house and in her apartment,
and it's it was just tough, and it was I
did not sleep for two days because I'm sitting there
looking at my wife and I'm like, this gory has movie.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I just watched it.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah, and nomine for it was nominy for Best Picture,
and I'm just.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Picture director screaming. Movies like this don't normally get Best
Picture nominations.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Oh that scene of her just like sticking the needle
in her back over and over again, I was like, please,
no more. I get it. I get it. You're extending
the hour because she's an old hag and you're you're again.
But you know the Dennis Quaid was loved him. Those
are one of those.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
You know, he hammled it up. He's having a blast.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
He does play a similar character in a lot of movies.
This was like Range. You know talmentioned elast, this was Range,
and I thought he was incredible. He was so gross, yes,
I mean douche back. Yeah, like just so douchey. And
you're just like, this is so good. Like it's just
you know, at least somebody in your life that's kind
(39:22):
of like this, like not like that's extreme that the
whole movie is about extremes and he is that extreme,
but like, you know somebody in your life that is
a little bit disgusting like that where you're just like, oh,
you sicken me. But yeah, I listen thirty minutes too
long like most movies nowadays, maybe an hour too long,
but you know, I enjoyed it. It's fucking wild.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Though, it absolutely and you're right about that. And that's
a key tow. When you see the blurb for it,
you know this is the thing people go, well, the
critics still matter. The amount people have told me the
go I watched the week just because the blurb on
it says absolutely fucking insane, So like what what is
this movie like?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
This is just already intrigued by it.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
This was before I can all the Oscar buzz and
not to be more, might even be the favorite Twitter
Academy Award tal your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
In way, it sounds like he said he likes the movie.
It's good.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I got what's going for, but too much at the end.
Do you like the audacity or is it too much
for you?
Speaker 7 (40:11):
I mean, that's clearly what the filmmaker is going for here, right.
The objective of this film is to make people feel uncomfortable, and.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
It hits it out of the park.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
Dude, Yes, you know, the filmmaker is clearly very talented.
And I was just mentioning clearly very influenced by like
Cronenberg and David Lynch and these kinds of filmmakers. And
I would not recommend watching it right before bedtime like
I did, because this is same two and a half
hours of pure uncut nightmare fuel.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Man.
Speaker 7 (40:43):
This it was hard going to sleep after watching this.
Very inspired. I love the whole premise about beauty and aging.
And to me more, I say, Cander the Oscar right now?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
You loved her?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, yeah, what I mean?
Speaker 7 (40:55):
I know I was talking about Mikey Madison.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, I'm team Mikey Madison. You're going to be more
dots to do.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
Yeah, the stuff she had to do, her back deserves
an aues oh, just for all the torture that her
back goes through in this film. I mean, it's it's
a little stomach churning some of it. But that's the idea,
it's that's the whole point of the film.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
My wife says it's her favorite movie the year. My
sister last saw it three times. It's your point, tell,
I kind of said what Jade. I heard more than
few people say, hey, I liked it just the last
thirty minutes or too much.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
And their response is, but that's the point, Like you want.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
To be Your face is thrown right at it, right
you look out. Grotesta says, everyone's got blow of the hands.
Look at what you've all done with this person. Like
you're never gonna walk on the substance to go. I'm
not sure what that movie was about, Like, no, you'll
remember this movie another fantastic As You're an NHL unscripted
(41:51):
episode ten. Peter Leonnis played collegiately for the University of
Vermont Catamiults. We're playing pro in North America and Austria.
He's now known primarily for the incredible hockey stunts he
has posted online. You know you love him. He is
Swaggy P Swaggy Pe. Welcome to Unscripted.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
I appreciate that. I was gonna say, you can just
leave my name out of it.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
I've been introduced a couple of times like that and
someone's there, it's just like that, no one knows that
my real name. So I was just like, yeah, it's
it's swaggy by now. But yeah, I appreciate it, and
it's always good to see JD. I've been following this
stuff for a bit now, I've known him for a while,
so I'm uh, I always get a kick out of it.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Just take us through a little bit, Swaggy P, Pete Lennis.
We use government names here. Yeah, take us through just
like your your hockey career, Like you know, you played
a Vermont, you ended up playing some East Coast, some
HL you bounce around, then you ended up in Europe
and you know you gave up. You had a long career,
like in terms of professional career, So just take us
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through it.
Speaker 8 (42:50):
Yeah, I mean, I think for myself and just like
how it goes into what I do now is like
I just love hockey like that, like that is my passion.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
It's something like I could spend hours, you know, on
the ice and I always have, so you know, I
always wanted.
Speaker 8 (43:05):
To play and.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Going over and I think I think I said it
on a podcast or the other week. The only thing
I think I regret about my career is not trying
to stay in.
Speaker 8 (43:16):
North America longer.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
You know, like you always have Europe and you're like, oh,
it's tax free money or da da dah, like I
can go.
Speaker 8 (43:22):
And then it's just like kind of like the East
Coast grind.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
And you know, I didn't play much in the American League,
but it's like it's when you look back at it,
it's it's there's a lot of good times and memories
and it's just like that grind is kind of like
something I wish I could go through again, just because
those long bus trips and the you know, eating terrible
food after games.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Sometimes it's just it's.
Speaker 8 (43:44):
Just but it is.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
But then you go to Europe and it's like cushiony
and you're like, oh, this is but there's so much
free time that you just don't know what to do.
And you know, I know we'll go into the business later,
but just to like have that time back on the
ice to like work on actually things that are hockey
specific and like relatable to the game. I think there's
(44:06):
there's just so much time that you know, I love
being on the ice, but was just wasted.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Well we'll talk about that, because you know, I could
put you on the ice with probably I could comfortably
say seventy percent of the NHL players in the league,
and kids would gravitate towards you before because they would
recognize you. Like, how does it make you feel like
because you're helping kids, you're teaching kids. It's not only
this the skills and the tricks and stuff, Like you're
(44:32):
teaching kids skill work, how to play the game. Like,
how does it make you feel that you know, you
are more recognizable now post career and are impacting the
game in your own way.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
I mean, I think it has a couple of different
answers to that.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
Like the first one is is like I was a
rink rat, right, so like I always was, you know,
going to the UVM games when I was a kid,
and like, you know, I remember, like I obviously I
understand it more now, but like I asked for like
Ron Hextell's autograph and like he was just like no,
And I like that that hurt me, you know what
I mean. But when these kids like come up now,
(45:10):
it's like, man, like you don't understand, like you always
have time for them because like without those kids like
watching or wanting to learn from you, there is no audience, right,
so those kids are what makes the business. And then
it's just like it's super cool to to have an
impact on that. And I think it goes to you know,
(45:31):
like I've known JD and stuff, and like if JD
text me and was just like hey, man, like this
this is horrid, like shut shut it down, like you.
Speaker 8 (45:39):
Know what I mean, Like these videos are painful.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
I think that'd be really tough, you know, Like but
but the some of the NHL guys like reach out
and they're like, hey, like what curve do you use?
Speaker 8 (45:49):
You know, what what are you doing for this?
Speaker 5 (45:51):
And just to have that support I think was a
big turning point to be like okay, like I'm gonna
keep pushing this harder rather than if like the top
down was like hey, like this this dude, this.
Speaker 8 (46:02):
This stuff is uh tough to watch. I'd be like, oh,
I don't know if I can keep doing this.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
So I think it was just the support all around
of being like okay, like people are finding this helpful,
and I think that's what I enjoy the most.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Who who is one of the guys that reached out
to asking you about your curve? Like like when was
what was the one guy that reached out to?
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Derek reached out, jack Igo reached out. He's like, hey,
if you're gonna be in Boston, like let's hop on
the ice.
Speaker 8 (46:35):
That was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
You worked with him too, which is why.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
Yeah, we were like kind of messing around and stuff,
and and he's got a frenchie too, so we were
just like I keep in touch with him and just
a super nice guy and just all the you know
pros I've met through Bauer has been super cool. Like
everyone's been awesome, like you know Beneers this summer and stuff.
Then met Coffield and like you realize that these kids
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coming up just love it just as.
Speaker 8 (47:02):
Much as you do.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
And I think that's the big thing where it's like
they're they're infected with hockey. So like they were like,
oh man, like what are you doing out there?
Speaker 1 (47:11):
And like, yes, talk with Swaggy Pee. You've got some
great locations to shoot some of these videos. What was
a personal favorite, Like.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
I mean, we did the first ever ice hockey camp
in Brazil. Wow, and the ice was melty. There was
a tropical storm and the ice was literally like an
inch and a half of water in some places. And
they were like, they're like, we're running it. I was
like running, We're actually running this camp right now. It's
like I was like, all right, if you guys want
to do it, like, let's do it. But this is
(47:39):
like this is weird, you know, but that was really cool.
So my three favorite shoots for sure.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
The first one.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Was Huntington Beach was Ziegres. That's my number one. That
was my first bower shoe. It was we put synthetic
ice on the big school parking lot. He was just
breaking into the league. Super skilled guy, such a great guy.
So that will probably always be my number one.
Speaker 8 (48:08):
Shoot. Number two was pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
I flew out to Alaska for eighteen hours to do
a Filson shoot and we landed in Anchorage the next day.
We took one of those like puddle jumpers prop planes,
like an hour and a half to this lake. The
ice was horrendous, but it was like a cool setting.
That was that was pretty cool. And oh, third third
(48:34):
one third one is gonna be a difficult one.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It's tough to top Brazil, but go ahead try that's yeah.
Speaker 8 (48:40):
That was a camp, right, that was that was cool.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
I think we we did one with Coffeeld that was
pretty cool in Montreal. And the funny part about that
was we had rented the ice and they were late
coming from Blaineville at the factory, and so we had
like a half an hour to shoot, right, and we
were just having a great time shooting a little content,
and the beer leaguers started pouring out like they're like,
(49:06):
this is our time, Like we're.
Speaker 9 (49:08):
Not going la off right, right, And so we start
playing with the Beer League guys. Yeah, and some of
the guys had like Coffeield jerseys on, so they're having
like the time of their life.
Speaker 8 (49:21):
But at the same time they're like, hey, this is.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
Our hour, Like I don't care what shoot it is, right,
and so so we just started pulling, like all these
Beer League guys started pouring in.
Speaker 8 (49:30):
The goalie went in.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
I mean I was like, oh my gosh, like you
can imagine like the stand up old style goalie must.
Speaker 8 (49:37):
Have been in his sixties and he's like asking for the.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
Smoke, right, and we're like, dude, come on right, and
but he went. He stayed in there. I don't think
he stopped a beach ball. But it was pretty quiet.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
What everyone still has the dream.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
That is so good that you wait.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
I was waiting for someone to like take a hack
at him or something, but they were. They were super
cool and then like to like towards the end, they
were all asking for like pictures and stuff with them.
Speaker 8 (50:04):
So it was pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
I'm gonna ask you how the Wrigley Field shoot come about? So,
because this is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
You're you're literally shooting at a baseball team, so you
have the NHL's permission, so to speak.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
I think we did. I think we did no no,
So so we did. We did the full there like
like j Byrd films. He's that crazy drone guy, right,
So we had this one where they kind of go
through the whole stadium and out and like he wanted
me to do like the outside strip and uh, I
(50:38):
was like yeah, of course, Like I've seen his videos
and they're super cool. And then like he texts me,
He's like, hey, like I'm still in Wrigley, do you
want to come back in? And I was like yeah.
You know, it was kind of like do they know?
Did they not know? And then it was like super cool,
like the people inside were like the security started like
being security for.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Us so I could hold up Dune drone.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
And then we were flying the drone everywhere and stuff,
so it was, uh, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (51:09):
Then we got back in.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
I don't know what type of uh clearance we had,
but we were we were okay.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
I love it. Great stuff swagging. We appreciate you.
Speaker 8 (51:16):
Man, of course, thank you.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
All right, awesome stuff from Swaggy Pee again. He was
a really cool guy for a guy who's done a
lot of things. I feld m very down to earth
because I mean he's had a real impact JD on
the hockey community if you're a hockey, but you know
what Swaggy Pee is all about. Who isn't trying to
imitate what this guy's doing out there.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
He's electric electric factory and he was great. I mean,
those are some awesome, awesome stories.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Speaking of electric I was locked into the Grammys as
I flew into Nashville, and even though I was in
music city, Green Day was invading speaking of Travis Green.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
But I, well, I throw it on.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
I missed the first little bit and I still tell
me just because I felt what happens is not to
be the old man in the room.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
But I'm like, I know these people, but I don't like.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
I hear the song that's Chapel, I'm like, wow, she
really bring him back to Charlie Chaplin music.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
And she has a sorcerer's hat, the wizards thing. Yeah,
she's like a wizard.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Like, wow, Chapel Rhodes get up that that's gonna be
someone that's gonna be seen in Halloween. And Beyonce wins
for Best Country Album and she gives that faux shocked face.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Well, that's my favorite part of the Oscars any wards
was they go there's only one time it was legitimate.
Olivia Coleman won Best Actress and everyone thought Glen Close
was gonna win for the wife and she was legitate, like,
like you know, that's a legit. She did not know
she was gonna win every other time. They're all full
of crap.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
I love it. Beyonce followship, of course, you can believe it.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
She well, yeah, jay Z had to pay a lot
of money to get that, get his name out of
the news, and little deflection here, there's a little or
whatever that was. And I was like, Casey Musgraves was
visibly upset. And then she came out and said we're
all supporting. I'm like, no, no, no stop. I'm like
name me, name me. Four of her songs on her
(53:02):
album says you could win. Nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Everyone just the one major single and after that's whatever.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
Yeah, yeah, and it is what it is. I mean
that there's nothing more fun to me than to watch
the the masturbatory ness of awards shows and laugh.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Everyone loves each other, everyone's praising each other each other,
but we get to what we really need.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
To talk about, which Zacharsky alluded to whichever one was talking, Heck,
you have to watch the grammyes. You're like Bianca sensory,
who is Kanye West better half.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Naked?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I mean it was unbelievable, Like wait, what, Like we've
seen some risky Ouphis Jad over the years, Like I
remember Britney Spears of the Snake, Christina Agilaris had some
sexy outfits like whateber it is whatever generation or Ryan
carry Sure.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
But I was like, wait, I've never actually seen someone
on the red grup where you see through dress you
can see everything. And I'm like, I get it. It was awesome,
but it's kind of don't you want to save that
at home? He don't everyone get a free look here
at your girl? How did you get a lay with that?
Speaker 3 (53:58):
That's crazy. I know two people on this podcast that
loved it, one one as a mustache. I loved it
and what and replayed it. I mean listen, I was like,
oh shit, I was saying, okay, I'm like this is
what I was like, okay, this is what we're doing.
He's like, all right, just but you know, somebody, somebody
(54:19):
out there is gonna be like art.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
So that's gratuitous.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
We can all then, now that's gratuitous. Now that's gratuitous.
You keep pushing the line, that's what happens. Like again,
I just was like, I mean, listen, Kanye's lost his
mind a couple of years ago or however long ago.
I mean, he always lost it. But this I don't
even know what the hell she's doing, but yeah, it's
just straight naked. How about how about Will Smith's son,
(54:46):
We're in a house on his head too. Just this
whole idiot family, idiot idiots, all of them.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Well, this was a ton of fun here.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Talking about the Grammys, talking about the substance and of
course special things. Zakarinsky and Swaggedy, both guys were unbelievable.
Unscripted continues to grow. Make sure you hop on this band,
wake an episod so ten ninety to go until we
had triple figures.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Thanks what for listening. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
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Thank you once again to the NHL and I Heard
(00:25):
for this collaboration. He's demers On Burke. It's always great
to have you with us coming up with this episode.
We're talking about a big time, big time couple of guests. Okay,
zach Arnsky might only win the Norris he didn't get
Heart Trophy consideration.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
He's been amazing for the Columbus Boo Jackets.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You're gonna love zach stories not only but Columbus, but
also fond remembrances of the late great Johnny Gudreau. And
also we're talking to Swaggy p. You know you've seen
all of his stunts. This guy can stick handle like
like the wind, and he's got some great stories just
about quite frankly unique locales that he's been to. Also,
by the in terms of non hockey talk, I cannot wait.
Cinephile in sixty I convinced Shady and producer Tale to
(00:59):
watch the substance, which is oscar nominated in a bevy
of categories. See me more right now is the favorite
to win Best Actors. Cannot to wait to hear the reaction.
Plus the Grammys, Everyone's still buzzing about Bianca Censori, Kanye
West better half, and her lack of an outfit.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
However, we kick.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Things off with my recent visit to Smashville, my first
time ever at a national Petits guy, I've been to
Nashville before, but JD, you talk about a perfect locale.
I mean you're literally right on Broadway. I can go
to Johnny Cash Museum.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And it burns, burns burns. You can go to Tootsi's.
You go to Justin Timblay's restaurant and then go watch hockey.
My favorite brother.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
The Pecky Arene statue outside just like Pecki Arena all
time great. You go inside. Now, this was a Monday
night only game in town. Auto Centers norther NHL games
on the Monday night. But when they score, I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I love it. I want some more of it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Nashville unique sensation, a unique place to watch hockey game.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean, I've never a statue of a guy that's
never won good goalie. Though Pecki is great, cold, we
never want.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I was taken aback. I'm like wow, Peck reading like.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Okay, I never I mean, you never want to cup
or anything. It's like, I'm not asking for a trophy
and not a statue in San Jose. But anyway, but
it's so fun. I called the game there a couple
of weeks ago, and I was calling for the Sharks,
and it's just a great When you're not a huge
hockey market, you need to be in downtown like that,
smack dab in the middle in the action. People are
(02:23):
gonna come, people are gonna enjoy it. That's kind of
why it was always tough for Phoenix and Arizona to
work because they never just put it right down on
the heart of Scottsdale and let's ride. You know, they
had it downtown for a bit. It did well, then
they moved to Glendale. But it's that's why smash Pille works,
It's why Tampa works, just right in the heart of
the city.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Let's ride.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, it's great, man, And let's talk about this Attawa
Centers team because they're surging right now. You know, Brady
Chuck's a fun player to watch. I think most hockey
fans nobody brings the table. But I want to get
your thoughts specifically on Jake Sanderson because he's been terrific recently.
Our buddy Thomas Hickey, who you spent five hours with
on Coast to Coast last week with any Petrello, Hicks
was raving about him. Thomas was a lot long. Yeah,
by the way, I asked five hours ago. I loved
(03:04):
it because it's a long shift.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm not gonna five hours and then I think there's
an overtime game or some nonsense. I know, you gotta
shoot yourself.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Thomas Hickey listened to this, so I'm gonna I'm gonna
be real nice with what I say. No, I love Hicks.
He's great. Hicks is like iced to my fire, you know.
He's he's very analytical, statistical, knows his stuff. And my
favorite thing is to try to get him to laugh
if I can get him to giggle, because he's like,
you could tell like the best joke and he's like, yeah,
that's funny, and you're like, oh god, I need to
(03:35):
giggle because he's just he's that guy, like it's so stoic,
you know, like stoicism. He could teach it in a
class at Harvard, but I think.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It fits his hockey still time.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Be so good as a deep pairing together. It's just
it'd be so good. But yeah, back to the Ottawa Centers,
Jake Thomas Sandman, as you were mentioning the Senators, I
said he better team me up on Jake Sanderson. I'm
not joking in my head. I was like the Sandman,
mister Sandman.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Nice good song, rather than under Stamon to go to
mister Samon. I like it.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Our producer Steve Tronzano at Angel Network's gonna be so mad.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But Johnny Cash and mister Samon.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, but I digress. But yeah, this team is. You know,
I tweeted a couple of days ago, I said, I
am on the bandwagon. I'm rooting for this team. I've
been against them for two years at the network, saying
they got to show me something. I can't jump on
this bandwagon. I like the mix of guys they have,
and they're starting to believe. They're starting to play a
good defensive, structured system. You know, credit to Travis Green
(04:34):
coming in and making it work. And I thought they
were kind of dead in the water losing Linas Olmark,
but then you know, Mari Linen comes in right story
shoots the lights out, and you know they're getting decent
and serviceable goaltending and they've just bought in. And you heard,
you know, I heard Brady Kachuk talk and he said,
you know, sorry not break. Chuck claud Dru was like,
(04:55):
guys are buying in. They understand that this is the
way we have to play if we want to make
the playoffs. We can't be an I. We have to
be a WEI And they're really bought in and it's
fun to want. It's a team that I'm rooting for
to make the playoffs because I'm sick of seeing the
Bruins in the playoffs and I'm sick of these other teams.
I want to see some new blood. Give me the sense.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Let's talk a little.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Money may not have been the biggest headline of hockey
this week, but it was the biggest news the NHL
and nhl P announcing Friday the team payroll ranges for
upcoming seasons. According to the memo, the cap will go
up to ninety five point five million next season, one
hundred and four million for twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven,
and what one hundred and thirteen point five million dollars
for twenty twenty seven, twenty eight. I don't need you
to break down the finances. I know you can go
(05:35):
to a different bank than me, but I want to
know this. Are you ready for one more pay day?
Can we get listen? You're still a young man?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Demurs comes back one more pay day.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I went to waste management today and you know it's
probably about a two mile jaunt from here. I mean
I jogged it and I I was good.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You're in good shit Still.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I played Men's League on Monday. I still got the juice.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I just need to work at it. I don't know
if my knees can hang on, but I could do
it though. I think I could maybe pull it off.
But yeah, it's a great you know, the league's built,
it's growing. It's probably the hottest hockey's been in a
long time. Uh, it's very fun to watch. I'm a
little worried at these teams in bad, bad tax states
and tax and especially Canadian teams struggled. Oh it's tough
(06:21):
right now, Like it this is gonna be tough for
you know, like this is a clear advantage for the
no tax states, Like this is so clear. So I'm
hoping the league kind of maybe looks at this and says,
how can we structure this? Maybe figure out a way
to even the playing field a little bit. But you
know they're gonna be able to play the top guys.
And the important thing is is I think we have
(06:41):
a way better product than a lot of these sports,
and it hasn't been reflected. And now it's it is
very it leans heavily on TV deals and stuff like that,
but we're starting to get that, we're starting to get
traction or social media presence growing. We have unscripted with
Vicin Demurs. We are bringing the juice.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You said last week you're not gonna talk about anymore,
and you have to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
JT.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Miller's on Broadway and JT. Miller is fired up to
be back with the Rangers. The vacover Cannucks make the move.
Who are they gonna trade? Well, they listen. They moved
Miller along with Eric Ranstrom, Jackson Dorington, the Rangers, Filipido,
Victor Mancini and a twenty twenty five first round pick.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Can you want more? We'll trade with you Moore. We're
not gonna trade Elias Pederson.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
How about Marcus Patterson and forward Joe O'Connor from Pittsburgh
for Danton Heyen, Vincent Deharney, prospect Melvin Fernstrom and a
twenty twenty five first rounder. The Canucks they should be
much better thatcher dam goes a top ten goal if
he's healthy and you're making moves and Miller's out, he
was a clubhouse cancer watch out for the Canucks.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
JD.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
It's just I don't they traded the wrong guy. I
wouldn't have got rid of J. C. Miller. Uh, listen,
but you can't listen there. They've they showed you who
they're betting on, and it's it's Elias Petterson, not the
d man, but the forward, the one making eleven point six.
I don't mind the Marcus Patterson trade. I think he's
a great underrated defenseman. I like what they did there.
Dre O'Connor is a great depth guy. But man, this
(08:01):
this has just been a side show for this Canucks team,
and I feel for the guys, the core guys there
that you know, had to deal with all of it.
And you know now you're hearing news that the JT.
Miller trade didn't sit well with a lot of guys
and it's not going to solve the room problems. And JT.
Miller goes to Broadway and scores two right away. It's
I have to give a shout out again to you know,
(08:22):
Brad Richardson at Missing Kirkfhew. We talked last night. I
was at his house for his fortieth. He's an old bastard.
But he was saying like when he left, I don't
know how long it was three three years ago from Vancouver.
He like went to Alvin and was like, hey, you
need to surround JT. Miller with veterans because you can't
lose this guy because he's invaluable because the way a
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guy with jam like that that, Yeah, he's a little
bit you know, squirrely at times, you know, mentally yelling
and stuff like that. He gets very he gets very emotional, Yeah,
very emotional. But you need to surround with the good
veterans to be like, hey, like relax, you're good, and
you're gonna be able to harness that power and really
make him a dominant player, which he is. And they
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just didn't do that, and they kind of said he
can run the team, and I don't think he's a
guy that can run the team. Like now he's in
New York. You got Crider, you got Zabanazad, which you
know it is what it is, but you got Pineron,
you get out in Fox. He can't go yell at
these guys because those guys be like hey, zip it
or be like listen, this just doesn't work with us,
and it's gonna work well. Like this Rangers team. I'm
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not gonna say it, but this team could be back.
They're missing a d man, but they could be back.
They could sneak into the playoffs now. And wow, we've
been I've been all over them all year. So you know,
I don't mind the deals they made. And you've just
seen a team that's been galvanized by this trade by
getting JT. Miller versus a you know, you still hear
noise in a leaky ship from the Vancouver Canucks, which
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it's a mess. It's a mess there.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, we're recording this on a Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
The Rangers beat Boston by the way, so, as you mentioned,
perhaps pushing towards the playffs Alder's been red hot too.
Speaking of the other New York team, they've been amazing
they're making to push towards the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But you have special incident on this trade.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Dallas Stars getting Michael Granlin and Cody cc from your Sharks,
a first and a third and twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The Flames also load up.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
They get Morgan Frostjowel Faby from the Flyers for Andre Kuzmenko,
Jacob Pelcha, a second runner and a seventh rounder. First off,
the Sharks, what are they thinking of trading Grantland?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
They had to and I think, you know he's up
this year. I'm hoping. I texted my career on the side,
you know, I just he probably doesn't even know that
it's me, but I just went keep cooking. That's what
I wrote, Keep cooking. I love that they got some
draft capital listening. Granlin is going to be a rental
for a team. I don't know if Dallas will resign him.
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And Cody Sees is a very good depth defenseman, can
play up and down the lineup. But Mikaut Grantland's for
majority of this season been the best producing forward for
the Sharks. You know, obviously it's it is Celebrini's team,
but Grantland's a great veteran could play up and down
the lineup. He's skilled the place penalty kill. It's a
great pickup for Dallas. It's one of those trades where
both teams won and you've seen and I think the
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Sharks have a really good development team.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, great news as far as San Jose is concerned.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Meantime, just thought here only because Ron Hexstall is gonna
get to shut out. He wasn't expecting their swaggy p
Interview Farraby O'Brien, Patrick Frost, Rubostov provoff Ron Hexstall. First
round picks no longer the Flyers. Now only Stanheim and
Travis Connecting are still around. Only one of his six
second round picks is still around. That's Ginning and three
or fourteen in the first two rounds. So a lot
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of the guys at Ron Hextall picked are no longer
the Flyers. Danny Breer is clearly making his team his stamp.
What do you make of the Flames getting a couple
guys here in Frost.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And Farby, Yeah, I think listen. Craig Conry came out
and he said it clear as day. He said, these
guys earned the trade. You know, this Calgary team you
have Dustin Wolf a Calder Trophy. He's the leader right now.
He's the clubhouse leader. He went from plus six thousand
to I think he might be even money or getting close.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So do you think he's had a meetch Gov Hudson there, Oh.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, Dustin Wolf right now is the leader. He's the
club house leader. They lost last night, so it's gonna
be a little tough for him to kind of it's
gonna go. It's all gonna be dependent on if he
makes the playoffs. But sure they've earned this. And Craig
Connor and I love to see a GM had a
plan at the start of the season. He said, you
know what, these guys want to win. We're right there.
Why screw it, We're gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Go for it.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
We're gonna try to make the playoffs because these guys
are in it and it's not like they mortgage their future.
They brought in two guys that are gonna be part
of this court. Morgan Frost and Droel Faeriber are two
guys that could be very impactful for this team. Frost
kind of just didn't click with Tortorella. Hopefully he's going
to be better in Calgary and Farby's approven can be
a twenty thirty goal scorer yearly for this team. So
I think I love seeing a GM make this trade.
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And I don't think they gave up much. They gave
up Kuzmenko. Kuzmenko's kind of struggled everywhere. He's gonna Yeah,
it ain't gonna be great for him, going to see
towards Maybe he works with Mitchkov but I don't know.
He hasn't really showed me much. He can score, but
I'm not sure. And then Jacob Pelchi, who can be
an NHL player. I don't know if he will fully
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make the jump. We'll see. Hopefully he does, but there's
a perfect coach in John Tortorella to kind of usher
him in. So I'm interested to see how it works.
But I love this by Calgary and I think it's
a great vote of confidence shown to the players on
this team.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I completely agree.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I mean, if you spend any time with Ryan Husky's
and easy got a roof for so, I'd love to
see the Calgary Flames in the playoffs for Husky that
great market.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Of course at Calgary, they love their Flames.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, he's a real life Moonlight. Graham played one NHL game.
He told me the whole story. It's great, he was
because I wasn't going to be a guy, but they
gave me one game because I'd been in the organization forever.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And he goes, I played ten minutes because I remember
my first shift. I got my bell rug.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I did not play at all the third period, but
I got to play on the same is as Chris Chellio,
so it was great.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I see I got to play with me.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
All right, we'll get to Zach Arnsky in just a second,
but first master trade. One of my boys is a
huge Knicks guy. So we were watching Nick Lakers Saturday night. Oh,
I went to bed, turn on the awful game of it.
I'm like, how the hell the Knicks lose the Lakers
without Anthony Davis? Like as always, Lebron lighting up the
garden where Jordan used to always let up the garden
pisses me off away you go to buy wake up
six time I go, but this can't bleary eyed. I'm
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rubbing the eyes. Goodnight, Luka. Doncic is now on the Lakers.
I'm like, what and I traded Anthony Davis with this case?
How does this always happen to Lakers, Like, how do
they get the guy agree he was twenty five years old,
about to be twenty six, won the great superstars in
their game, carried the.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Mavericks the NBA fils.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Last year, he gets traded for a thirty two year
guy who's been great, ten time All Star, but he's
made of glass, Like.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
How are you getting?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You're getting Luca Dodgers for Anthony Davis and Lebron's and
he had no idea jd.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
This is honestly, it's historic trade. They say it's the
first time ever.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
NBA history two guys who have been All nbas many
times that they have been traded mid season.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Stunning.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
First first off, you said something that I didn't. I
want to let you finish. But Lebron James not knowing
is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. The guy,
the guy owns half the league with China. Give me
a break, Lebron James. I don't care how good he is,
Hall of Famer, one of the best, the goal the
go I think he's not tell me that.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Guys now twenty eight a game, He's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Do not tell me that guy's not run by China.
It is what it is. It's fine. He owns a
third of the league. Okay, and I Eithersten, we might
not get air time. It is what it is. It
is what it is. You do I say this, I
say this once every show you do you boo, you
get that paper boo boo. But listen to say that
he didn't know that it's his team. He's been running
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this team for years. He made a hell of a trade.
He he had a podcast with JJ Reddick and then
the guys as coach. Oh what I don't know? Yeah,
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
This is.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Ridiculous, Like, let's just he should just come out and go, yeah,
I'm the GM. Just deal with it and everybody be fine.
But this is gonna go down as one of the
worst trades in history by the Dallas Mavericks. This is
a twenty five year.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Old stat Luca the reason why?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Who cares if he's yeah, he likes to have a
couple of Medellos or corps lights give him a break.
The guy's lights out, and he's a gamer. You can't
teach gamer, and you can't specifically an NBA, which is
a soft league. You cannot teach a gamer like Luca
can I guys like taped up all over the place
and taking his team to the fires. It's it's egregious
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that this trade. This is the kind of trade where
you clean house top to bottom. So I mean, listen, great,
I'm gonna say, lebron James, fantastic GM work. It's incredible work.
But don't say you're don't say you didn't know. Did
not say you did not know. Don't lie to me.
If I had his power, you kidding me? I would
be wheeleding that swinging it around. I would who cares? Yeah,
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his son's on the team. His son is not. His
son's a great G League guys, and he played.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
He's awful. I had to watch it. This is a
good place there.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I root for I root for Bronni, I root for Brod.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The highlights last night, his first three pointer, like this
is really like Bronnie James.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
As you said, his league, correct, it's his league.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
He owns a third of the league. The fact that
I had to watch on Sports Center Kevin Durant and
these miserable sons ye showing having the trainer runs out
giving these guys their cell phones and they're on their
cell phones, like tweeting.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Your use you got a game going on?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Can you imagine I'd tell you what if I grabbed
a cell phone.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
JT. Miller gets traded and you're in the coduck you
could grab yourself and hey, you.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Guys stabbed in the neck by somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Hick Tacket would do it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Rick would kill me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Very unexpected and entertaining takes there from Jason Burr's Now
it's time for Zach Warenski, who is having a hell
of a season and he's a terrific guest.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Here he is episode ten and what a get for us.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Drafted eighth though raw B of the Columbus Blue Jackets
in the twenty fifteen draft. After starring at the University
of Michigan, he went pro immediately won a Calder Cup
with Lake Erie in twenty sixteen. He is currently enjoying
a career season for the upstart Blue Jackets. He's not
only in the conversation for the Norse Trophy, but he's
also in the conversation for the Hart Trophy. Zach Warnsky,
Welcome to nhln SCRIPTO. Great to see him, man.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Thanks for having me on, guys, I appreciate it so.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Partner in crime Jody Shelley said, you all, you're going
to love Zach, and we already love because you're two
minutes early.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Demurs.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Right now, he's gonta run the wate banagement open and
you're early. You're locked in, So I love it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Listen, it's an amazing season you're having. I'm sure you're
a humble guy and a team guy, but talk to me,
how did you go from a good player to like
literally a legit.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Great defenseman in the North Trophy conversation.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yeah, I mean I've kind of said this the last
few months. I really don't think I've done anything differently.
But if you look at our team, look at Kroll, Marchenko,
Ken Johnson, Adam Fantaille, like all these young guys are
having great years. And when you're passing the pluck, the
guys that have confidence and are scoring goals, the points
just start to come. So, to be honest, I really
haven't done much differently. Sean Monahan has been a great.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Addition for us.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I feel like he's really been a superstar on our
team that doesn't get talked about enough. But yeah, just
like the guys I mentioned, guys just took step forward
this year and it's just been a lot of fun.
Our powerplays, click in, our top lines, click in. You know,
we're just clicking as a team. So I feel like
I really haven't done much different, just kind of playing
my game, and he had the points you're starting to
fall for me.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Zach, talk to me, thanks number one. Thanks for being
on man. I'm such a fan of your game, and
I just wanted to ask you because I dealt with
a lot of injury stuff when I played, and I
know you kind of caught the injury bug, stuff that
you couldn't really control. You know, how was it mentally
for you? Locking in and you know, things that you
learned throughout your career health wise, it's kind of helped
you because you know, you look fantastic. You look faster
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than you've ever been this year.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, no, I appreciate that. Yeah, injuries are tough. I
mean everyone goes through them. I think that's the main thing.
I feel like for me, I've had some pretty tough,
tough luck with it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I feel like two seasons ago, when I pretty much
missed the whole season, I definitely.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Learned a lot about myself, found ways to contribute outside
of just playing the game's trying to be more of
a leader in the room, trying to learn from watching
on TV more and then just getting out, getting out
in the Columbus community and doing things, visiting the children hospital,
visiting people in my suite, first responder stuff like that.
I just felt like I really grew as a person
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that season, even though I wasn't playing on the ice,
and then you kind of learn about people and the
people you're playing for in the community and the city.
And for me, the one thing that I learned a
lot was I kind of always knew it, but I
feel like when you go and see people that are
going through stuff, you know, real life stuff. Going through
an injury is really not that bad. So I'm fortunate.
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I'm very fortunate, and I feel like, as tough as
it was to miss the whole season, like I said,
people go through.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Way worse things.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
And just did what I could to get healthy and
learn as a player, and yeah, here we are. So
it's in a sense it was rewarding, but definitely sucks
being out.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Your head coach. Dean Everson's don an unbelievable job.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
He's in the conversation right now if the jack abs,
especially if you guys can make the playoffs, looks like
a scary dude. Zachi Hair's in the back of my
next stand up, but I just look at it. But
then I hear him speaking. He's pretty funny, pretty entertaining.
What's the story you can tell you about Dean in
the locker room?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
He's awesome, I mean honestly, Like when we first hired
him and he called me the first time, I was
I kind of had that same reaction as you, like,
I was a little bit nervous, a little scared, not
too sure what to expect. And he's been He's been
the opposite. To be honest, He's awesome being around the room.
He likes joking around. He keeps things super light. I
don't have any like great stories right now. I guess
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he What I like.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
About him is he just leaves us alone. Right.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
He comes in, we do our work, he shows video,
and then he treats us as adults and pros and
let's us do our thing. And I felt that's why
we're responding well to him, right. He just knows how
to how to handle us. He's he's not keeping us
there for two hours and doing unnecessary stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
He gets us in, he gets us out. He wants
us to be home with our.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Families and and wives and dogs and all that stuff,
and guys that have kids.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So I really enjoyed playing for him so far.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
How do you find? You know, I go back to
when you started in Lake Erie. You you know you're coming
too the league. In the HL, you win the Calder Cup. Like,
how great of a season was that? Because when I started,
I was so grateful to have a year in the AHL,
because I found I learned so much more than in
Find I'd just been as a young pup in the NHL.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
I feel like I feel like people, especially young guys nowadays,
I kind of get that thought of burning a year
or playing one game at the end of the season
and then you know, getting.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
That year aventry level gone.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
But if it was up to me, I would tell
everyone to go to the American League, and especially college
guys at the end of their seasons, go to the
American League, go on a playoff run and understand what
it's like to be in the grind of it.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Play a three and three, right, you don't have those
in the NHL.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
But you understand the grind of it and the bus
and you place, you know, I think for me, it
was a seven o'clock game in Rochester, seven o'clock game
in Toronto, and then at three o'clock game.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
In Lake Eurie or in Cleveland, so awful.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Yeah, it's tough, right, So you kind of understand the
grind of it, You understand kind of the ranks of it.
You know, you're being a young guy. There's guys that
are thirty five years old and pros with kids and
living on your own and all that stuff. So I
can't say enough good things about my experience in Cleveland
and especially winning too.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Right. I was with those guys for two.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
And a half ones and some of those guys are
still great friends of mine that I talked to all
the time, and it's great seeing them in rinks or
wherever it may be. And yeah, it was up to me,
I'd recommend everyone to kind of go that route.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So the usn T DP, this team, Zach is Insane,
Jack Eichel, Alex Tuck, Dylan Larkin, Austin Matthews, Charlie McAvoy,
Matthew could Chuck, Noah Hannavan, Jack Rosslovic. I mean, Sonny Milano,
Christian Fisher, Jordan Greenaway. How dominant was that team and
now seeing this journey of all those guys.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Yeah, so it's kind of split half. Those guys were
you eighteens when we were you seventeens. But yeah, you
get called up and you all play together a few
games and whatnot, and yeah, it's pretty incredible if you
look back on it. Obviously, when you're there, you're not
really too sure what to expect or how guy's careers
are going to pan out. I remember Austin matthew Is
at the forty camp before our first year. Everyone's like,
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who's this kid from Arizona, Like, no one's heard of him.
He's scoring every game, scoring every shootout, and here he
is one of the greatest goal scorers in the game.
So it's been fun to see. It's been you know,
especially this Four Nations coming up after that kind of
every wen on the USA team and it's been ten
years ago, we played together, twelve years ago, whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It is so.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Definitely crazy when you look back on it, and CSCO
those teams were. But yeah, no, I'm really looking forward
to the Four Nations and getting with those guys again, you.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Know, going to Four Nations and and you're going to
be in Montreal and Boston. But you know, who's the
guy out of that list that you're really excited to
play with? And then who's the guy that you know
you're looking to play against, you know in this format
you know, country on country.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yeah, I think for me, I think Austin's a big
one that I'd like to play with, you know right now,
Jack eich Old, the Hughes Brothers, Chuck Brothers. I just
think you go down the list and you can find
you can find a reasons you want to play with everybody,
right or stories about you want to play with everybody.
And I think that's the exciting part about it for us,
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says everyone so close and kind of just getting everyone
back together again is going to be awesome. And then
in terms of guys I want to play against, I mean,
I think it's hard to not say Canada, right, and
Sidney Crosby and McDavid and McKinnon. I'm anxious to see
how their lineup ships out because there's so many good players, right,
and I think that's just gonna be awesome at the
Bell Center on a Saturday night lining up against Sid
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and like I said, McKinnon and McDavid and mccarr and
and all these superstars in the league. It's it's going
to be exciting. It's going to be a challenge, but
that's that's why you play the game, right, So I'm
excited for it.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
You know, you've you've you kind of went on a
huge euro trip with Lark and so I'm sure you're
excited to play with Dylan Larkin. But like, tell me
about that trip and any other trips kind of planning.
I know this one kind of screws up your a
Cabo trip or something. But how was that hero trip
and where'd you go?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
We started off with Dylan's bachelor party actually, so we
flew into London and then took the train to Manchester.
We saw Cold Play in Manchester on Thursday night and
then took the train back to London on Friday. Friday
just kind of had a guy's day, bounced around pubs
and bars, grabbed dinner, and then Saturday we went to
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the f A Cup Final, which was man City versus
man U at Wembley, which was an insane weekend right
for a bachelor party.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
It was awesome, so hats off to him for thinking
of that.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
But and then on Sunday we just chilled, some guys
left and then Monday me and him flew to the
south of France where my fiance and his wife met us.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
And spent ten days there.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
And then we went to Paris for a night and
we stayed actually for one more day to see the
French Open final.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Djokovic was in it, so like I had to see that. Yeah,
it was a crazy trip, right, like no, like to
like the two best weeks in my life.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
So yeah, the hats off to him because it wouldn't
happen about him him setting up that bachelor party, so
it was it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I got to hear more just as a sports fan.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I'm not a huge soccer but I just imagine Man City,
Man you at Wembley, I mean, how do you compare
to that?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
To North American sports?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I don't even know, to be honest.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
It was like I wasn't a huge soccer fan, and
now I'm hooked after going to that game. Like I
love the Premier League now, I love when it's on TV.
I love Bondesliga, I love all the leagues, Like I
try and watch as much as I can now just
to see how crazy those fans are, see the atmosphere
of the game. And then I watched the documentary on Netflix,
the Treble documentary or it's called Trouble Winners on Man City,
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and those guys are so similar to us in a sense, right,
how they interact and how they're in the locker room
and how many games I play. So I just find
it fascinating now. And in terms of comparing it to
you know, North American sports, it's I don't even know
what you compare to crazy college football game.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I guess I don't know. Probably that on steroids, but it.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Was I have to ask you because it's just a
quick you know. I shout on the Toronto Maple Leafs
Lower Bowl and I was kind of saying, I feel
like the NHL should eventually get to like a small
section that's whether it's student section or just rabid fans,
kind of like they do in soccer. I don't know
how you think that would fare in the NHL and
in North America.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're spot on right. Like
I love playing in Toronto. It's the biggest market in hockey,
but it is it is pretty quiet for the most part,
and a lot of that that is the prices of
the tickets, and I feel like it's takes the fun out.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Of it a little bit.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
I think the Clippers, if I'm not mistaken they're one side,
is they wanted to make it like a student section.
So yeah, I think that's a great idea. I think
more sports league should do that. I think they should
have more chances during the games and get people more
into it. And yeah, I mean, you go to these
soccer games and these college football games and atmosphere is insane,
and then you go to Maple Leafs game and it's
(29:02):
it's just different. You know, It's it should be like
that everywhere, But I guess I don't know how you
do that. Sides make tickets cheaper and they won't do that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Also true, Yeah, I work on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I've had a blast and there's been rumors with the
fact that Amazon cameras have been following you around. Any
truth to the fact we can see you on Face
Off season two.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Uh yeah, yeah, I don't know if I'm supposed to
say that or not, But it's not just me it's
it's our team in Columbus here and they're doing a
little thing on John, and yeah, it's gonna be a
it's gonna be great just to kind of get an
ancy look on how we live here in New Albany
and Meredith and the kids and just kind of what
everyone's gone through here. So yeah, excited to show the
hockey hockey world, but what we're doing here in Columbus.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
How was that experience personally for you with just having
the cameras around, especially you know, during those times and
those tough times.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Yeah, well they weren't there right at the start of
the year. They've come around more recently, so I guess
we've kind of had time to get, you know, acclimated
to it a little bit.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But definitely different.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I mean, I'm not used to having the full camera
crew around me, so I'm kind of a shy guy,
so it's definitely not in my comfort zone. But I
think it's just great what they're doing in this episode
on John and just kind of celebrate his life and
how much he means to everyone around here. And and yeah, no,
I mean it's it's gonna be awesome. So I'm excited
(30:27):
to see what they come up with in terms of
one episode of it.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, on the lighter side of things again, as Jason
and I said, we both think you're firmly in the
conversation for some hardware. Speaking of hardware, the Grammy Awards
has happened, and the Oscars are a few weeks away.
Your choice, you can the talk about a movie you've
seen which is up for some Oscars, or if you
had a chance to watch you the Grammy Awards.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I didn't get to watch any of the Grammys. Maybe
I'll watch the Oscars. I don't know. You're pretty busy
at nighttime or watching sports or whatever. But it's really
not my cup of tea, I guess. But I saw
some of the outfits from from the Grammy's are pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Or the yeah you creep.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah, I know, I think we all are.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, I know, I mean I listen. I looked at
it a couple of times and said, Jesus, yeah, there's
a different angle. Yeah it's it's they're all a mess
out there, completely mess. But I wanted to ask a
little bit, you know, going back to the start of
your career in Columbus, and you know, obviously I'm sure
You've had to tell a million Tortorella stories, but I
(31:33):
just wanted to ask more on the note of like,
what's one thing that you you kind of learned from
Torts that you're like, not many people know about him,
that that's why he's had such a long career as
a coach in the NHL.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Yeah, I mean, I think the thing with Torts and
it definitely gets mixed up in the media a little bit,
it's just how good of a person he is.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I don't think people understand that.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
If you talk about a family guy or a guy
that wants you to be around your your family, like
he's he's the one. He gives you so many days
off just.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
To be home with.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
You know, your your wife and your kids and whoever's there.
And my first year in the league. Actually this is
not a sad story, but it kind of said, but
my first year in the league, we were I think
five days away from playing my first game at home
in Detroit at Joe Louis, my grandfather passed away, and
I told towards that and he's like, go home. I
go home and skate by yourself, Like we don't want
(32:29):
to see you be around your family. So for like
five days, he just gave me my year, didn't didn't
He called and checked in on me, but didn't really care.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
He just trusted me, let me go home. I was
skating alone.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
And then the first game at Joe Louis, he starts me,
you know, opening and I haven't practiced with the team
at all, And I just think that goes a long way, right,
Like he could have been he could have been like, hey,
once we land, you can go home for a few
hours or go home for the night.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
But he was like, no, get out of here, like
you don't need to be here.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
And that always leuck with me my first year, I
think I was two three months in a manhl career
and that was a moment for me where I just
had a lot of respect for him and that always
with me. And I feel like people don't see that
side of him.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah he doesn't. He doesn't get enough of it. And
you know, everybody kind of tells the funny stories but
never like what he's kind of how he's impacted guys.
But you know, I wanted to, you know, finally touch
on I know we touched on Johnny a little bit,
and you know, I've interviewed Adam Fantilly and then I've
also interviewed man Giapane, and you know, we kind of
asked just about at the end of the interview, like, hey, listen,
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you know, Johnny's gone but not forgotten, and we just
want to know more of like a lighthearted, like a
funny story that would give a little bit of insight
into Johnny and a cool memory that you have that
you've taken with you, you know, being around him a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yeah, I know there's so many good stories. Only play
with him for two years, and I think I've played
with him my whole career, from sitting across from him
at the card table on the plane calling everyone a donkey,
and you know what, like my first year, he actually
used to drive me nuts because he would be the
last guy to show up to the rink and the
first guy to leave. And I was always like, like,
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why is he doing this? And it was just because
he wanted to get home to his wife and kids.
And I think I've learned so much from that where
now like I don't go to the rink longer than
I have to be at the rink, and I feel
like more people should kind of take advantage of that.
Like there was times I'd sit at the rink and
be like, oh, I'm a pro, I'm just sitting here.
(34:25):
I'm at the rink for four hours, but I'm not
getting anything done. Yeah, And I think what I've learned
the most from John is like, go to the rank
and enjoy it. Be there for an hour or two
hours and do your stuff and get what you need
to get and then get out of there, get home
and be around the ones that you love. And yeah,
I've learned. I think that's what I've learned the most
from him in that short amount of time. And honestly,
(34:46):
I think it's a big reason why I'm having success
this year too, is I'm not just spending hours at
the rink for no reason and thinking about hockey all
the time.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
And so yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
No, I mean, he's he's awesome and we miss him,
but yeah he's gone.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Never forgotten. Love sharing stories on him and talking with
the guys about him.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
That's such a cool story.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I love that. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
It works smarter, not harder, necessarily more efficiently, and obviously
family first.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Zacharnci's having a tremendous season.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
The Columbus Blue Jackets, and as you can see, he's
a thoughtful guy at a great dude Athias as well,
Zachar pulling for you man, not only for you, but
also the Columbus Blue Jackets.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Keep it rolling. Thank you so much for your generosity today.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Swaggy p is coming up home and Tarily you know
whim you love him obviously, all those great stunts and
great stories behind the scenes, old friend of JD's. But
now we'll do a little bit of Cinophile and sixty.
A quick thought on Carlos Sophia Gasco if you who
is that. She made history as the first trans nominee,
and now he's lit herself on fire with this controversy
which is going on. I have never seen a person
get nominated for an Oscar and then the campaign just
(35:50):
completely blows up. They found her tweets in the past
in which she said Islam should be banned as a religion.
She had some shots at George Floyd, lots more stuff,
and now Amelia Price, which had thirteen nominations which we
denigrated a year ago. If they could rescind the nomination
to her, they would, I mean Jacquo de Here, the director.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
They asked, have you spoken to her? He's like, no,
I haven't. I don't have anything to say about it,
and I don't like her.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
No, they asked Zoe Seldona, who's the favorite twin sporting
actress Oscars? Because I don't want to speak about it.
I distanced myself from those comments. Selena Goma is like, nope,
I have nothing to say about that. No, They've they've
changed the rules for this year's Oscars. They only do
a fab five to get previous winners get out there.
They go, No, nobody wants to talk to this chick.
She went from like I was a man, I'm now
a woman, I'm a trendsitder like no, no, actually you're
(36:31):
a biggot. Nobody likes you. And it's it's literally single
handily killing Amelia Presze's chances.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's unreal. I've never see anything like it.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Is It isn't Selena Gomez didn't she take down and
tweet as well. She's crying something. They're having a tough
go present and it's a weird movie again, ball don't lie, all.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Right, and now we get some all they're waiting for.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I had to I had to push JD and Tale
to watch the Substance, which is just gonzo filmmaking.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Coralie Fargiets a director.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
It stars to Me Moore, it stars Margaret Qually, and
it's a film about the way females are viewed in
the industry, the way they're misrepresented or represented that the
shaving they have to go through, all these kind of attributes,
and you think you've kind of seen a film like
this before, and then it gets to the file thirty
minutes if you've never seen a movie like this before
without further ado. I want JD's reaction, I want towels
and I cannot wait for either.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Jason, the floor is yours.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It was thirty minutes too long to maybe an hour again,
like we could have got there quicker, I listen. I
actually again, you know a lot of gratuitousness. But acting
was good. It was a good premise. I enjoyed it
at the start about you know, you know trading you
are one, This is you know, it's this is part
of you. This beauty is within you, and don't let
(37:46):
it corrupt to you. This the beauty, you know, you
can go as deep as you want with it. Or
is That's what I like about it is you can
really think about it deeply or just be like, you know,
it's a good, exciting movie. I like the premise. I
thought it was really cool about the links at which
women go to keep their beauty be successful, and it's
a very tough cut through an industry and even within yourself.
(38:08):
So I just thought like, I was very impressed by that.
I like the acting. It just went off the rails
for me a little bit when they have like the
fight scene in the in the house and in her apartment,
and it's it was just tough, and it was I
did not sleep for two days because I'm sitting there
looking at my wife and I'm like, this gory has movie.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I just watched it.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah, and nomine for it was nominy for Best Picture,
and I'm just.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Picture director screaming. Movies like this don't normally get Best
Picture nominations.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Oh that scene of her just like sticking the needle
in her back over and over again, I was like, please,
no more. I get it. I get it. You're extending
the hour because she's an old hag and you're you're again.
But you know the Dennis Quaid was loved him. Those
are one of those.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
You know, he hammled it up. He's having a blast.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
He does play a similar character in a lot of movies.
This was like Range. You know talmentioned elast, this was Range,
and I thought he was incredible. He was so gross, yes,
I mean douche back. Yeah, like just so douchey. And
you're just like, this is so good. Like it's just
you know, at least somebody in your life that's kind
(39:22):
of like this, like not like that's extreme that the
whole movie is about extremes and he is that extreme,
but like, you know somebody in your life that is
a little bit disgusting like that where you're just like, oh,
you sicken me. But yeah, I listen thirty minutes too
long like most movies nowadays, maybe an hour too long,
but you know, I enjoyed it. It's fucking wild.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Though, it absolutely and you're right about that. And that's
a key tow. When you see the blurb for it,
you know this is the thing people go, well, the
critics still matter. The amount people have told me the
go I watched the week just because the blurb on
it says absolutely fucking insane, So like what what is
this movie like?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
This is just already intrigued by it.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
This was before I can all the Oscar buzz and
not to be more, might even be the favorite Twitter
Academy Award tal your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
In way, it sounds like he said he likes the movie.
It's good.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I got what's going for, but too much at the end.
Do you like the audacity or is it too much
for you?
Speaker 7 (40:11):
I mean, that's clearly what the filmmaker is going for here, right.
The objective of this film is to make people feel uncomfortable, and.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
It hits it out of the park.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
Dude, Yes, you know, the filmmaker is clearly very talented.
And I was just mentioning clearly very influenced by like
Cronenberg and David Lynch and these kinds of filmmakers. And
I would not recommend watching it right before bedtime like
I did, because this is same two and a half
hours of pure uncut nightmare fuel.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Man.
Speaker 7 (40:43):
This it was hard going to sleep after watching this.
Very inspired. I love the whole premise about beauty and aging.
And to me more, I say, Cander the Oscar right now?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
You loved her?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, yeah, what I mean?
Speaker 7 (40:55):
I know I was talking about Mikey Madison.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, I'm team Mikey Madison. You're going to be more
dots to do.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
Yeah, the stuff she had to do, her back deserves
an aues oh, just for all the torture that her
back goes through in this film. I mean, it's it's
a little stomach churning some of it. But that's the idea,
it's that's the whole point of the film.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
My wife says it's her favorite movie the year. My
sister last saw it three times. It's your point, tell,
I kind of said what Jade. I heard more than
few people say, hey, I liked it just the last
thirty minutes or too much.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
And their response is, but that's the point, Like you want.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
To be Your face is thrown right at it, right
you look out. Grotesta says, everyone's got blow of the hands.
Look at what you've all done with this person. Like
you're never gonna walk on the substance to go. I'm
not sure what that movie was about, Like, no, you'll
remember this movie another fantastic As You're an NHL unscripted
(41:51):
episode ten. Peter Leonnis played collegiately for the University of
Vermont Catamiults. We're playing pro in North America and Austria.
He's now known primarily for the incredible hockey stunts he
has posted online. You know you love him. He is
Swaggy P Swaggy Pe. Welcome to Unscripted.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
I appreciate that. I was gonna say, you can just
leave my name out of it.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
I've been introduced a couple of times like that and
someone's there, it's just like that, no one knows that
my real name. So I was just like, yeah, it's
it's swaggy by now. But yeah, I appreciate it, and
it's always good to see JD. I've been following this
stuff for a bit now, I've known him for a while,
so I'm uh, I always get a kick out of it.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Just take us through a little bit, Swaggy P, Pete Lennis.
We use government names here. Yeah, take us through just
like your your hockey career, Like you know, you played
a Vermont, you ended up playing some East Coast, some
HL you bounce around, then you ended up in Europe
and you know you gave up. You had a long career,
like in terms of professional career, So just take us
(42:49):
through it.
Speaker 8 (42:50):
Yeah, I mean, I think for myself and just like
how it goes into what I do now is like
I just love hockey like that, like that is my passion.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
It's something like I could spend hours, you know, on
the ice and I always have, so you know, I
always wanted.
Speaker 8 (43:05):
To play and.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Going over and I think I think I said it
on a podcast or the other week. The only thing
I think I regret about my career is not trying
to stay in.
Speaker 8 (43:16):
North America longer.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
You know, like you always have Europe and you're like, oh,
it's tax free money or da da dah, like I
can go.
Speaker 8 (43:22):
And then it's just like kind of like the East
Coast grind.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
And you know, I didn't play much in the American League,
but it's like it's when you look back at it,
it's it's there's a lot of good times and memories
and it's just like that grind is kind of like
something I wish I could go through again, just because
those long bus trips and the you know, eating terrible
food after games.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Sometimes it's just it's.
Speaker 8 (43:44):
Just but it is.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
But then you go to Europe and it's like cushiony
and you're like, oh, this is but there's so much
free time that you just don't know what to do.
And you know, I know we'll go into the business later,
but just to like have that time back on the
ice to like work on actually things that are hockey
specific and like relatable to the game. I think there's
(44:06):
there's just so much time that you know, I love
being on the ice, but was just wasted.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Well we'll talk about that, because you know, I could
put you on the ice with probably I could comfortably
say seventy percent of the NHL players in the league,
and kids would gravitate towards you before because they would
recognize you. Like, how does it make you feel like
because you're helping kids, you're teaching kids. It's not only
this the skills and the tricks and stuff, Like you're
(44:32):
teaching kids skill work, how to play the game. Like,
how does it make you feel that you know, you
are more recognizable now post career and are impacting the
game in your own way.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
I mean, I think it has a couple of different
answers to that.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
Like the first one is is like I was a
rink rat, right, so like I always was, you know,
going to the UVM games when I was a kid,
and like, you know, I remember, like I obviously I
understand it more now, but like I asked for like
Ron Hextell's autograph and like he was just like no,
And I like that that hurt me, you know what
I mean. But when these kids like come up now,
(45:10):
it's like, man, like you don't understand, like you always
have time for them because like without those kids like
watching or wanting to learn from you, there is no audience, right,
so those kids are what makes the business. And then
it's just like it's super cool to to have an
impact on that. And I think it goes to you know,
(45:31):
like I've known JD and stuff, and like if JD
text me and was just like hey, man, like this
this is horrid, like shut shut it down, like you.
Speaker 8 (45:39):
Know what I mean, Like these videos are painful.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
I think that'd be really tough, you know, Like but
but the some of the NHL guys like reach out
and they're like, hey, like what curve do you use?
Speaker 8 (45:49):
You know, what what are you doing for this?
Speaker 5 (45:51):
And just to have that support I think was a
big turning point to be like okay, like I'm gonna
keep pushing this harder rather than if like the top
down was like hey, like this this dude, this.
Speaker 8 (46:02):
This stuff is uh tough to watch. I'd be like, oh,
I don't know if I can keep doing this.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
So I think it was just the support all around
of being like okay, like people are finding this helpful,
and I think that's what I enjoy the most.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Who who is one of the guys that reached out
to asking you about your curve? Like like when was
what was the one guy that reached out to?
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Derek reached out, jack Igo reached out. He's like, hey,
if you're gonna be in Boston, like let's hop on
the ice.
Speaker 8 (46:35):
That was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
You worked with him too, which is why.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
Yeah, we were like kind of messing around and stuff,
and and he's got a frenchie too, so we were
just like I keep in touch with him and just
a super nice guy and just all the you know
pros I've met through Bauer has been super cool. Like
everyone's been awesome, like you know Beneers this summer and stuff.
Then met Coffield and like you realize that these kids
(47:01):
coming up just love it just as.
Speaker 8 (47:02):
Much as you do.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
And I think that's the big thing where it's like
they're they're infected with hockey. So like they were like,
oh man, like what are you doing out there?
Speaker 1 (47:11):
And like, yes, talk with Swaggy Pee. You've got some
great locations to shoot some of these videos. What was
a personal favorite, Like.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
I mean, we did the first ever ice hockey camp
in Brazil. Wow, and the ice was melty. There was
a tropical storm and the ice was literally like an
inch and a half of water in some places. And
they were like, they're like, we're running it. I was
like running, We're actually running this camp right now. It's
like I was like, all right, if you guys want
to do it, like, let's do it. But this is
(47:39):
like this is weird, you know, but that was really cool.
So my three favorite shoots for sure.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
The first one.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Was Huntington Beach was Ziegres. That's my number one. That
was my first bower shoe. It was we put synthetic
ice on the big school parking lot. He was just
breaking into the league. Super skilled guy, such a great guy.
So that will probably always be my number one.
Speaker 8 (48:08):
Shoot. Number two was pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
I flew out to Alaska for eighteen hours to do
a Filson shoot and we landed in Anchorage the next day.
We took one of those like puddle jumpers prop planes,
like an hour and a half to this lake. The
ice was horrendous, but it was like a cool setting.
That was that was pretty cool. And oh, third third
(48:34):
one third one is gonna be a difficult one.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It's tough to top Brazil, but go ahead try that's yeah.
Speaker 8 (48:40):
That was a camp, right, that was that was cool.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
I think we we did one with Coffeeld that was
pretty cool in Montreal. And the funny part about that
was we had rented the ice and they were late
coming from Blaineville at the factory, and so we had
like a half an hour to shoot, right, and we
were just having a great time shooting a little content,
and the beer leaguers started pouring out like they're like,
(49:06):
this is our time, Like we're.
Speaker 9 (49:08):
Not going la off right, right, And so we start
playing with the Beer League guys. Yeah, and some of
the guys had like Coffeield jerseys on, so they're having
like the time of their life.
Speaker 8 (49:21):
But at the same time they're like, hey, this is.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
Our hour, Like I don't care what shoot it is, right,
and so so we just started pulling, like all these
Beer League guys started pouring in.
Speaker 8 (49:30):
The goalie went in.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
I mean I was like, oh my gosh, like you
can imagine like the stand up old style goalie must.
Speaker 8 (49:37):
Have been in his sixties and he's like asking for the.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
Smoke, right, and we're like, dude, come on right, and
but he went. He stayed in there. I don't think
he stopped a beach ball. But it was pretty quiet.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
What everyone still has the dream.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
That is so good that you wait.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
I was waiting for someone to like take a hack
at him or something, but they were. They were super
cool and then like to like towards the end, they
were all asking for like pictures and stuff with them.
Speaker 8 (50:04):
So it was pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
I'm gonna ask you how the Wrigley Field shoot come about? So,
because this is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
You're you're literally shooting at a baseball team, so you
have the NHL's permission, so to speak.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
I think we did. I think we did no no,
So so we did. We did the full there like
like j Byrd films. He's that crazy drone guy, right,
So we had this one where they kind of go
through the whole stadium and out and like he wanted
me to do like the outside strip and uh, I
(50:38):
was like yeah, of course, Like I've seen his videos
and they're super cool. And then like he texts me,
He's like, hey, like I'm still in Wrigley, do you
want to come back in? And I was like yeah.
You know, it was kind of like do they know?
Did they not know? And then it was like super cool,
like the people inside were like the security started like
being security for.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Us so I could hold up Dune drone.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
And then we were flying the drone everywhere and stuff,
so it was, uh, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (51:09):
Then we got back in.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
I don't know what type of uh clearance we had,
but we were we were okay.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
I love it. Great stuff swagging. We appreciate you.
Speaker 8 (51:16):
Man, of course, thank you.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
All right, awesome stuff from Swaggy Pee again. He was
a really cool guy for a guy who's done a
lot of things. I feld m very down to earth
because I mean he's had a real impact JD on
the hockey community if you're a hockey, but you know
what Swaggy Pee is all about. Who isn't trying to
imitate what this guy's doing out there.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
He's electric electric factory and he was great. I mean,
those are some awesome, awesome stories.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Speaking of electric I was locked into the Grammys as
I flew into Nashville, and even though I was in
music city, Green Day was invading speaking of Travis Green.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
But I, well, I throw it on.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
I missed the first little bit and I still tell
me just because I felt what happens is not to
be the old man in the room.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
But I'm like, I know these people, but I don't like.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
I hear the song that's Chapel, I'm like, wow, she
really bring him back to Charlie Chaplin music.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
And she has a sorcerer's hat, the wizards thing. Yeah,
she's like a wizard.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Like, wow, Chapel Rhodes get up that that's gonna be
someone that's gonna be seen in Halloween. And Beyonce wins
for Best Country Album and she gives that faux shocked face.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Well, that's my favorite part of the Oscars any wards
was they go there's only one time it was legitimate.
Olivia Coleman won Best Actress and everyone thought Glen Close
was gonna win for the wife and she was legitate, like,
like you know, that's a legit. She did not know
she was gonna win every other time. They're all full
of crap.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
I love it. Beyonce followship, of course, you can believe it.
Speaker 3 (52:40):
She well, yeah, jay Z had to pay a lot
of money to get that, get his name out of
the news, and little deflection here, there's a little or
whatever that was. And I was like, Casey Musgraves was
visibly upset. And then she came out and said we're
all supporting. I'm like, no, no, no stop. I'm like
name me, name me. Four of her songs on her
(53:02):
album says you could win. Nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Everyone just the one major single and after that's whatever.
Speaker 3 (53:07):
Yeah, yeah, and it is what it is. I mean
that there's nothing more fun to me than to watch
the the masturbatory ness of awards shows and laugh.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Everyone loves each other, everyone's praising each other each other,
but we get to what we really need.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
To talk about, which Zacharsky alluded to whichever one was talking, Heck,
you have to watch the grammyes. You're like Bianca sensory,
who is Kanye West better half.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Naked?
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I mean it was unbelievable, Like wait, what, Like we've
seen some risky Ouphis Jad over the years, Like I
remember Britney Spears of the Snake, Christina Agilaris had some
sexy outfits like whateber it is whatever generation or Ryan
carry Sure.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
But I was like, wait, I've never actually seen someone
on the red grup where you see through dress you
can see everything. And I'm like, I get it. It was awesome,
but it's kind of don't you want to save that
at home? He don't everyone get a free look here
at your girl? How did you get a lay with that?
Speaker 3 (53:58):
That's crazy. I know two people on this podcast that
loved it, one one as a mustache. I loved it
and what and replayed it. I mean listen, I was like,
oh shit, I was saying, okay, I'm like this is
what I was like, okay, this is what we're doing.
He's like, all right, just but you know, somebody, somebody
(54:19):
out there is gonna be like art.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
So that's gratuitous.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
We can all then, now that's gratuitous. Now that's gratuitous.
You keep pushing the line, that's what happens. Like again,
I just was like, I mean, listen, Kanye's lost his
mind a couple of years ago or however long ago.
I mean, he always lost it. But this I don't
even know what the hell she's doing, but yeah, it's
just straight naked. How about how about Will Smith's son,
(54:46):
We're in a house on his head too. Just this
whole idiot family, idiot idiots, all of them.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Well, this was a ton of fun here.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Talking about the Grammys, talking about the substance and of
course special things. Zakarinsky and Swaggedy, both guys were unbelievable.
Unscripted continues to grow. Make sure you hop on this band,
wake an episod so ten ninety to go until we
had triple figures.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Thanks what for listening. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
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