Kamala Harris

In the latest episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe welcomes none other than Vice President Kamala Harris for an inspiring conversation filled with historic moments, personal reflections, and big dreams for the future. Vice President Harris opens up about her journey of groundbreaking "firsts," from becoming the first woman, Black, and Asian American U.S. Vice President to being the first female Attorney General of California. She shares memorable stories, including receiving the monumental call from President Biden that changed the trajectory of her career.

The two dive into the realities of her day-to-day life, intense schedule, and dedication to staying connected with communities across the country. She also reminisces about her love of music, recounting a bucket list moment when Stevie Wonder sang her happy birthday. With only days left until Election Day, she reflects on the gravity of her role, her vision for the country, and the importance of mobilizing voters. This episode showcases Vice President Harris’s resilience, humor, and commitment to making a lasting impact for future generations.

Key issues and policy considerations affecting communities across the country are at the forefront of the conversation. They discuss essential topics, including workers' rights, corporate practices, and historical injustices that have disadvantaged Black communities. From Donald Trump's discriminatory landlord practices, his involvement in the Central Park Five case, and his racially charged birtherism against President Obama, they shift to contemporary issues facing marginalized communities.

Vice President Harris speaks candidly about economic disparities, noting her focus on combating inflation, housing, and price gouging while supporting affordable housing and small business initiatives. She emphasizes the need for policies that protect Social Security, ensure accessible healthcare, and address health disparities affecting Black men, particularly in colon and prostate cancer screenings. With Election Day approaching, she stresses the significance of the upcoming choice, advocating for leaders dedicated to working and middle-class families over self-serving interests.

Important topics like immigration reform come into focus as the conversation unfolds. Vice President Harris advocates for a secure yet humane immigration system, emphasizing the need for a comprehensive approach that allows individuals to earn their citizenship while effectively addressing border security. This perspective stands in stark contrast to the often divisive rhetoric seen during Trump’s presidency.

As the episode progresses, VP Harris critiques current political figures and highlights the urgent need for a new generation of leaders committed to real change, calling out the failures of the past. Don't miss this insightful episode as Vice President Kamala Harris shares her vision for a more inclusive future for America on Club Shay Shay!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Jude calls for some Call of Jude, go and play
some Black Ops six. I'll take it from here. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Yes, every boat count Sir. Who's next? Who's next?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 4 (00:15):
Here you go?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hey, it comes back here?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Hey, what's his name?

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Pomp Turty Henry scratch and sniff the smell of freedom
metal VP. You're a couple of years older than myself,
so we kind of grew up in the eighties. But
I'm I'm only thirty five.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
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I'm gonna give you a sampling A man I.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
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Speaker 5 (00:43):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
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Speaker 5 (00:50):
Got the brow of dysons wide all my life, I'll
be grinding all my light all my life.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Been grinding all.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
My life, sacrifice, hustle, back the price, doctors sware all
my life, Papa gone in all my life.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shayshay. This episode
is brought to you by Call of Duty Black Ops six.
The woman that's stopping by for conversation or the drink today,
she's the highest ranking woman in US history. She's made
a career of being first. She's the first woman to
serve as Attorney General African American Asian American descent. She's
also district She's been District Attorney of San Francisco. She

(01:29):
was the nation's first Indian American Senator. She's the first woman,
first Black Asian American to be elected Vice president. She's
set the record for the most tie breaking votes cast
by vice president. She's the first black woman Asian American
in US history to win the presidential nomination of a
major party. She's the first HBCU grad, making US proud.
She is a Howard University of lum She's a member

(01:50):
of the prestigious Appa Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority. Here she
is in person. Madam BP Kamla Harrison. How you doing?
Extreme honor, privilege and a pleasure to have you on
club Shaysha CJ, who is the producer here. When we
started this journey, Madam VP four years ago. Celebrities, athletes,

(02:12):
entertainers and influencers, vps and presidential hopefuls work on the
Bingo card. You here, so I want to thank you
very much. When we have guests come on Madam VP.
We like the toast and what I read on this card.
You don't deserve this. You've earned this, being the first
in so many areas, and you make us proud. I

(02:32):
just want you to know you make us proud for
what you've been able to accomplish. And we're twelve days
away and we hope you have an even greater accomplishment.
So here's to continue success and everything you've done and
everything that you will do.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Oh, bless you, and thank you, and to you, Shannon,
to you for all the success and the voice you
give to so many issues.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Thank you and cheers to you. Cheers, and I'm not
going to actually drink this because I might fall asleep
and I.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Need to do this. I don't want you to rock
Obama this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
So here we are.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Cheers everybody.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
So before we get to the things that you want
to do once you become president of the United States,
I want to go back when you found out what
President Biden called you and said that he was no
longer going to seek re election and you got that call.
Do you remember where you were and what you thought
when you heard him say these words?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Do you I do so I was home.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
It was a Sunday afternoon, and my niece, her husband,
and their two young daughters were visiting and staying with us,
and I promised the kids I have pancakes and bacon
and everything.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
And then after that.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
I had a puzzle for the kids, and we were
sitting down to do the puzzle and the phone rang
and it was President Biden. And so that's when he
told me. And it was obviously life changing in so
many ways. But you know, I have to tell you, Shannon,

(04:02):
at that moment, I knew what it would mean, but
not in the detail of it, but I certainly understood
the seriousness and the gravity of the moment. And actually
one of the first people I called was my pastor. Wow.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I knew I needed a moment to just be still.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
And for my spirit and my mind to have clarity
about the seriousness of the moment and my role.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
And I'll never forget that call, or that moment or
that day.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Your life instantaneously changed in that moment, Yes, because now
all of a sudden, you weren't going to be running,
you weren't going to be the VP anymore. You're going
to be front and center, and you knew what the undertaking.
Haven't been four years at the vice president, what that
moment would mean.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I had a sense of it, you know, like so
many of us, you know when you know you this
is your life, right, So there are those moments where
your instinct kicks in sometimes before your conscious mind and
thoughts do. And my instinct kicked in immediately that I
need to focus and I need to do certain things immediately,

(05:17):
which included making I think we estimated I made over
one hundred calls that day. My team, and I'm an
incredible team, all came in and you nobody expected, right,
it was a Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
In fact, we actually joked who had taken a shower
that day?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Because you know, people came into their workout clothes, you know,
different people and you know, bandana around the head.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Just you know, and came in and we then for
hours and hours, well into the night.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Did you tell them, did you tell them why you
had summoned them to come to your place? Did you
give them that news or you were were you waiting
for them to get there to share that news with them?

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Well, so the news started to speaking, imagine pretty much immediately.
But you know, of the many blessings that I have
and have had, one of them is an incredible team
of people around me. You know what that's like, where
they're just there and they will rise to a moment
and no matter how high that moment is or meaning

(06:19):
how serious it is and what I love. And it's
certainly my own work ethic that there is no job
too small or too big if there's something that needs
to get done.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
So although you have a huge role. Now, what's a
typical day like for you? Now, once you've been thrust
into this What time you normally get into bed, what
time you're getting up, and what's some of the activities that.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
You do in a given day I'm having I'd probably
estimate fourteen hour fifteen hour days. When I wake up,
no matter how little sleep or how much sleep I've had,
I work out every morning. Okay, okay, you know, you
know it's like my body and spirit right, and and

(07:02):
then you know that's the only time of my day
I really own. And then it is these days, it's
not unusual for me to be in three or even
four cities in one day rallies with thousands of people,
ten thousand people showing up, making calls to folks. Just now,

(07:26):
I landed in Atlanta, the mayor of Atlanta who greets
me every single time. So I'll talk with elected leaders
who are supportive about So, for example, here in Atlanta,
what do we need to do to make sure that
we're giving folks the resources to knock on doors and
remind folks of the power of their voice and twelve
days in it really is a lot about trying to

(07:48):
focus on getting folks to know their power, to not
let anybody suppress or silence their voice, and to vote right.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
So break what is what is metal vpe for breakfast?
Or you have time? Or is it on to go?

Speaker 4 (08:02):
No? I I you know, I when I was younger,
I didn't think I needed breakfast. I wasn't a breakfast eater. Okay,
Now I have breakfast every morning. It's usually a spinisch holmlet,
very exciting, right, but it's protein with a little vegetable
and you know, I like chicken, apple, sausage and some
toast and then I'm gone.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Madam VP, you're a couple of years older than myself,
so we kind of grew up in the eighties. But
I'm I'm only thirty five now.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yes, but you want, but we grew up. But just
keep moving because you I'm gonna give you a shovel.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I see, I see it. We could have just moved
on a band that real quick, but you drew attention
to it. But we grew up in the seventies with music. Yeah,
winning fire Ohio players, Oh yes.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Fire you I mean oh you were like fire.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Come on, okay, Yes, what do you listen to now?

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know? I wish I were listening to more music,
to be honest with you, because I love.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
It just downtown when you have downtime.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
You don't have any downtown. Really, I know, my little
violin I'm playing right now with you, I really don't.
But when I love, I love jazz, you know, if
it's from Thelonious Monk to Miles Davis, I love Aretha.
I was just with Stevie Stevie. Can I tell you
bucket list Stevie Wonder on my birthday sing me Happy birthday,

(09:34):
Happy birthday to me.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Can you imagine?

Speaker 3 (09:40):
I was?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I was, literally it was. It was surreal.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Can you a bucket list moment? When Stevie Wonder himself
it sings you happy birthday?

Speaker 3 (09:52):
As an eighteen year old. Yeah, could you imagine ever
your life would have been like this this many years.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Let me tell my mother loved She had every Stevie
and every Aretha Franklin record, every album, like literally every
one of them. So for I mean, you know, songs
in the keid, like like all those all those Stevie
songs that were about everything from the movement to optimism.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
I would have never at eighteen thought that he'd be
singing me happy birthdays.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Ever, never, That's the least I mean. But obviously everybody
knows who Steve is. He was a trial prodigy thirteen
years old, and he was doing great things. But to see,
madal BP, what you've been able to do, You've had
so many First, the first Attorney general woman Attorney general
African American Asian American descent use the DA of San Francisco.

(10:44):
You're the first Indian American US Senator.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
And second black woman ever in the history of the
United States Senate elected second in the history of the
United States Senate.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Have you had an opportunity to sit back and reflect like, wow,
but work is not yet done.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
That's more where I am, the work is not done.
The work is not yet done.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
There's so much to do, I mean to your point,
being in the Senate, so there is a way of
responsibility that I know we all feel right when we
have been blessed with an experience that allows us to
be a role model and to hopefully inspire people and
to remind them of what's important or point out the

(11:29):
things that need to be addressed. So, for example, as
only the second black woman elected to the United States Senate,
I took on a real role of leadership around black
maternal mortality, which affects Black women and affects their spouses,
their husbands, their families, their children. And I feel a
sense of responsibility and a very strong duty to make

(11:54):
sure that I use my voice and in a way
that is about lifting up people who have not always
been in the room America.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Mister states in shape stepped out for some black up six,
but I'm here as his replace her. Let's start with Texas,
shall we. Well, I think this is I mean.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Things I'm moving here.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh, I can go on there, yep. Yeah, that's all
for today, folks checking tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
If you could speak to your eighteen year old self,
what would you tell her?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
If I could speak to my eighteen year old self,
I would probably tell her.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Continue to keep your friends. You know, my best friend
from kindergarten is still one of my best friends.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
What yes, Referee's yes.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
In fact, she's been out knocking on doors in North
Carolina just this last week. For me, I would say,
you know, hold on to those, to hold on to that,
which is that your friends are so important, your family
is so important. I would probably encourage myself at eighteen

(13:17):
to remember that you have a lot of people who
are supporting you, even if they don't know you.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know, That's what I mentor a lot of people, Shannon.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
So this is what I'm really reflecting on, which is
what I tell the young people I mentor, including to
know that even when you are in that room and
you're the only one who looks like you or who
has had your life experience, to know you are not
alone in that room, and that you must therefore walk
in that room chin up, shoulders back, knowing we're all

(13:47):
they're applauding you. When I mentor young women and men,
I remind them that you are often going to be told, well,
it's not your time, not your turn, too young, nobody
like you has done this before and and I tell them,
you know, don't you ever listen to that?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I like to say, I eat no for breakfast. I
don't hear know. You asked me what I eat for breakfast?
I eat no for breakfast. I don't hear it.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
And that's part of what are my life lessons that
I try to share with young people, to remind them
that you cannot ever be burdened by other people's limited
ability to understand who you are like, don't let their
limited ability burden you about your own ability.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
You know, you were raised by a single mom. What
did that experience tell you about your mom? And what
did it tell you about you?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Well, it told me that.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
One of the things that is precious is to build
community and family. Like my mother, she she understood that
there is a community that she wanted her children to
be raised in, and she was very intentional and.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Purposeful about that.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
And so I always say to people, even when I
took the stage as the nominee for the Democratic nomination,
that you know, there is the family that you have
by birth, and there is also the family you have
by love, and they're equally family, right, And I learned
that from my mother.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
So my mother.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
I had all these aunties and uncles, my uncle Sherman,
who was one of the first black men to graduate
from Berkeley School of Law, who when we were young girls,
sat us down and taught us how to play chess
because Uncle Sherman said, you need to understand how the
chess board.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Works, because that's the way the world works.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
They're going to be different players with different moves, and
you need to see the whole board. My mother raised
us around like my Auntie Chris, who went to Howard
in the fifties and pledged Alpha Kappa Alpha, and she
was one of my incredible role models growing up, and

(16:09):
that was one of the big reasons I wanted to
go to Howard University and pledge Alphakapa Alpha. Those are
some of the lessons that I've learned from my mother,
and I try to also share with people. Right, which
is the beauty of community and it's the way I
am right, which is you know, the children in my life,
whether they be my own or you know, my god

(16:31):
children or whomever, right that it's a collective responsibility that
we have.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
You did you know you were different? I mean, were
there a lot of people in the community that looked
like you or like your mom, or did your mom
tell you you were different?

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Well, my mother taught us to and everyone in my
growing up, you know, they would tell all of us
kids that we were special.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I don't think we were particularly right, but they told
us we were, and we believed them. We believe them.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
I think that's such an important part of what we
can all do for the children and the children in
our lives. And you know, but my mother raised two
black girls to be proud black women. Wanted you back
to music. One of the soundtracks from my childhood was
you know you are young, gifted in black, you know,

(17:28):
And that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'll get the.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Phone number later, and we're back America. Your moderators, they
got a hankering for call of duty. They're off playing
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Speaker 3 (17:52):
And without some freemies.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
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Speaker 1 (17:58):
Three pointer.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
You lost your mom to cancer. Yeah, you're very close
to your mom because you use a single parent and
that was pretty much what you had, although you had
a community to help raise you. How did you deal?
How did you cope with that loss?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Grief is difficult, it's difficult.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
You know there are two sides to the coin about
when you have relationships in your life that touch you deeply,
and then to lose that person, it leaves a big void. Right,
That's the two sides, and I think that part of
what I was just talking about this, But the big
part about grief is, especially if you lose somebody to

(18:39):
a sickness, to an illness, I think it's really important
that you try to remember them as they lived and
not as they died, because I think that's how they'd
want us to remember them. But also to remember their suffering,
which hopefully was a fraction of their time on this earth.
Is to compound the grief in a way that I

(18:59):
think it adds to the pain. And what they want
is that their active memory, that our active memory of
them is about when they were vibrant and alive.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
So let's get into things that will change. What will
happen if you were to become president, say in the
next twelve to thirteen days. Pole suggests that voters trust
President Trump former President Trump modeled the economy. What can
you tell the voters, our viewing audience, our listening audience
that if you were to become president, while Madam VP

(19:34):
Karmala Harris will be much better on the economy than
what President Trump was.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well, so I'm really glad you brought that up. Channel.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
So first of all, let's clear up certain myths. Okay,
you know those checks that went.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Out, Yes, those stimmys, right right, stimulus?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, I know, well, y y, you.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Gotta be stimulus, but they call them stimmy. It's okay.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
The reason those came about is because there was a
demmocratic majority in the House of Representatives in Congress, people
like Maxine Waters, people like Hakeem Jeffries right, yes, who
did the work of pushing to say people need help
right now, and we need to send out checks. There
was a whole lot of opposition to it, including from

(20:18):
Donald Trump's White House.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yes, even him, I think he was.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yes, that's why those checks. Remember Congress holds the purse. Yes,
so really, Congress wrote those checks. But then Donald Trump,
unlike any president before after, decided he put his name
on those checks. So people thought Donald Trump, he gave
me that check. And so let's clear that up first
and foremost. But let's also deal with where he was

(20:45):
in terms of his policies on the economy. He gave
the biggest tax cuts for billionaires and the biggest corporations,
which caused an incredible deficit. He tried to get rid
of the Affordable Care Act, which we also call Obamacare,
which benefited so many people, including and in particular Black
people in America who otherwise were denied by the insurance

(21:08):
companies health coverage because of pre existing conditions.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
That's most important. Let the people know, right, with Affordable
Care Act, if you have a pre existing condition, insurance
companies can no longer deny you coverage.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
And if you think about what that means in the
context of also knowing the big health disparities we have
in the black community and how more likely therefore black
folks might be to have pre existing.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Conditions loved pressure, diabetes, all of that, and cancers.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
All of that, Yes, asthma for our children, Yes, sickle sales, rance,
it's all of that. So by getting rid of the
pre existing condition ban, what that did. But he wanted
to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. What we
have done in part of my policies going forward include
what we need to do to not only retain the
cap that we got on insult then at thirty five

(22:00):
dollars a months for seniors. By the way, black folks
are sixty percent more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes.
He wants to get rid of it with that project
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Everybody needs to check that out.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
What he would do to get rid of Social Security
or at least raise the age to seventy, so you'd
have to work to seventy to be able to qualify,
get rid of Medicare, get rid of the Affordable Care Act.
And that's just on health policy, not to mention bringing
back not only tax cuts for the richest people, but
what he would do that is about eliminating or reducing

(22:29):
the ability of corporations to required to pay overtime overtime pay, so.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
You could work and the corporations wouldn't have to pay you.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
For it for overtime work for free, that's right.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
And overtime means you are actually working a longer day,
which means you are more tired, which means it requires
more exertion. That's why we have overtime pay, so you
don't take advantage of workers. In addition to all of that,
we're looking at Donald Trump, basically somebody who has never
been and understanding of the issues that affect the community

(23:05):
about disparities. And I'm gonna talk, for example, about how
when he was a landlord he denied rent to black families.
You look at what he did in terms of taking
out a full page ad in the New York Times
against the Central Park five, which were a bunch of
They're not young adults, they were teenagers. Black and brown

(23:26):
teenagers took out a full page add in the New
York Times calling for their execution for crimes they did
not commit.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
They were innocent. Donald Trump who.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Said of the first black president of the United States,
the birtherism to have people question whether he was born
in the United States, to try and diminish, and then
most recently, you look in this very election legal black
immigrants in Springfield, Ohio saying they're eating their pets.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
So, you know, part of what we have to help
you understanders. Don't think you're on Donald Trump's club. You're
not right. He's not going to be thinking about you.
You think he's having you over for dinner.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
You think that when he's going when he's with his buddies,
his billionaire buddies, he's thinking about what we need to
do to deal with addressing, for example, my work around
what I'm doing to address disparities in black men's health
around colon cancer, around what we need to do around screenings,
what we need to do around prostate cancer. Black men
are twice as likely to have and screenings, what we

(24:32):
need to do.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
To address I'm a survivor of prostate cancer.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Right, you know what I'm talking about.

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the economy seems to be heading in the right direction,
but the inflation, gas prices extremely high, groceries are extremely high.
This rent, I mean it used to be when I
was renting. They moved the rent up forty dollars a year.
Now the even moving it up four hundred.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Dec So let's talk about that. I'm glad you raised that.
So for example groceries, Yes, the price is still too high.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
You know what, I know it. Yes, part of my
plan is to deal with price gouging. I did it
when I was Attorney general.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
I'm gonna do it as president, which is these companies
that will jack up the prices and groceries to take
advantage of people in need, and in particular during a
crisis like what you see around the pandemic or Hurricane Leen. Yes,
Milk right, yes, Milton right.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
So there's that. In terms of housing.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
First of all, we know that black families are forty
percent less likely to own their home, and.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
We can go back to redlining. We can go back
to policies that were by law.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Or practice meant to not give black folks equal opportunity
to home ownership, especially in certain neighborhoods. We can go
back to what happened around the GI Bill and when
all those the Great Generation we called them, came back
and there was federal policy to say, you all fought
for our country, We're going to give you a boost
around helping you buy homes, but those black servicemen, and

(26:40):
it was mostly meant those black servicemen did not, so
you had then a time when there was a boost
for it ended up being not for black service members.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
So part of my policy is to.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
One create a fund so that we will give a
twenty five thousand dollar down payment to first time homeowners
to just help people get in the door. We will
deal with the rent issue because part of what we're
seeing in Atlanta and places across our countries, these corporations
are buying up all these properties, which means then that
they don't have to deal with competition between the properties,

(27:16):
and they're jacking up rent costs. So it's about also
going after that corporate gouging around what they're doing to
buy up and then jack up the prices of rent.
We also need to help people with small business ownership.
I did even before I was running for president, a
tour I called it the Opportunity Economy Tour, focused on

(27:37):
black men and black entrepreneurs.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
What we know is, unlike Donald Trump, we got four.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Hundred million dollars handed to him practically on a silver platter.
And by the way, Shannon file for bankruptcy six times.
Everybody wants to say he's a great businessman, take a
look at his record. I know that so many of
our entrepreneurs who have great ideas don't have access to capital,
but they have serious work ethic, great ideas, and a
plan to do the work. So part of my plan

(28:04):
is to increase access to capital, including giving twenty thousand
dollars forgivable loans for startup capital for people to buy
the equipment, and then to change the tax deduction so
whereas it is now five thousand dollars, to make it
fifty thousand dollars to start a new business, because nobody
can start a new business on five thousand dollars, and

(28:26):
the direct benefit when we're looking at black entrepreneurs is
profound and all it is is about saying this Americans
in general, regardless of their racer gender, we have ambition,
We have aspirations, we have dreams, but not everyone has
access to the opportunity to let some actually accomplish that.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
I want to increase access to opportunity.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
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become president, what measures would you put in place to
make sure Social Security benefits continue? Because there are reports

(29:54):
that it could possibly be depleted by twenty thirty three,
and they're estimated that eleven thousand people turn at least
sixty five years of age every single Yeah, so what
are you going to do to make sure because that
you know people disability to retirement survivors with beneficiary, what
are you going to do to make sure that that continues?

Speaker 4 (30:16):
So, Shannon, to your point, there was an independent economic
review of Donald Trump's plan which shows that Social Security
in the next six years would be insolvent under his plan,
meaning that it would not be able to pay out
what hardworking people who deserve dignity and their retirement deserve.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
And as you and I both know, there are a
lot of our seniors who their only source.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Of income is a social Security check, correct, right, is
they're the only way they're going to pay the rent
or have food on the table. So my plan is
about doing what we need to do to put the
resources back into social security, but also expanding it because
here's part of the problem of social security is that
for our aging seniors, if they are a couple, for example,
and one of the spouse passes, that cuts their social

(31:02):
Security benefits almost in half. So part of my plan
is to reconfigure it so that that surviving spouse does
not then have a crisis where they've already lost their
loved one. But we also just have to understand on
a macro level, we've got to require that billionaires of

(31:23):
corporations pay their fair share right they can afford to.
And that's part of what is the difference between me
and Donald Trump. My plan is about tax cuts for
small businesses, for working people, for middle class people. One
hundred million Americans will benefit around tax cuts. My plan
is that no taxes will be raised for anybody making
less than four hundred thousand dollars a year. My plan

(31:46):
is that we give young parents a six thousand dollars
child tax credit to help them pay for childcare for
a crib bar or car seat, because you and I
both know the vast majority of our young parents have
a natural desire to parent their children well, but not
always the resources. And back to the way I was raised,

(32:07):
I know that the children of the community are the
children of the community that you and I will benefit
from that young family having the resources they need. So
it's about all of us benefiting. But it's a state
of mind, and it's a perspective. Mine is about thinking
about the challenges people face and getting them help. Donald

(32:28):
Trump is full time focused on himself. You watch his rallies.
He will spend full time talking about I was going
to say, Freddy Krueger Hannibal Lecter might as well be
Freddy Krueger Hannibal Lecter. He'll spend full time talking about
his grievances, about what everyone has done to him. He'll
talk about himself, but he does not talk about the

(32:50):
American people. He does not talk about what he's going
to do for middle class he does not talk about
what he's going to do for families, for working people.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
And we're twelve days out.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
This is probably one of the most serious elections that
we have faced in our lifetime my perspective, and I
will be the kind of president who spends full time
focused on the needs of the people. That has been
my career. I have spent my whole career as a
public servant trying to uplift the condition of other people,

(33:20):
knowing what is possible and doing it with a sense
of optimism. On January twentieth, a new president is going
into the White House.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Period.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
A new president is going into the White House. Do
you want to look at the Oval Office and see
a Donald Trump who's going to be sitting there filling
out his enemy's list, spending full time figuring out retribution
and revenge. Or looking at the Oval Office and knowing
you have a president in there who is creating a
to do list that's about what to do to help

(33:52):
the American people.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
So raising minimum age of social Security that's not on
the table for you.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
No, No, here's the look.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
People work hard all their lives and they deserve to
be able to retire with dignity. I'll tell you how
I come at this. I come at it from a
number of perspectives, including thinking about how I was raised.
In terms of how you take care of the elders, right.
I think about it in terms of taking care of
my mother when she was sick and dying from cancer.

(34:24):
So one of my policies, for example, is to help
Medicare pay for home health care for seniors. Why because look,
I did it, and it means, you know, trying to
cook for an elder, to make something they feel like eating, right,
to help them put on a sweater. And we have
so many people who are in the Sandwich generation. They're

(34:47):
raising their young kids and taking care of their parents.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
And either they have to.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Deplete their savings to qualify for Medicaid right to be
able to help pay for home health care, or they
have to quit their job to do the work of
taking care of their kids and their parent.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
And I just believe that's not right.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
That we should have policies that give people dignity, especially
our seniors. So my plan is Medicare pays for home
health care. And no, I would not raise the age
of eligibility for Social Security because the same thing, we
shouldn't force people to work until they're seventy in order
to retire and have a moment to just enjoy their

(35:26):
life and not worry about how they're going to pay
their rent.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
It's Medicare for all a priority for you?

Speaker 4 (35:33):
What is a no, What is a priority for me
is making sure that access to health care is a
right and not just a privilege of those who can
afford it. That's why I am in favor of and
have pushed and been a leader on capping the cost
of insulent thirty five dollars a month. And why intend
to allow Medicare to actually negotiate against the big pharmaceutical

(35:54):
companies to bring down the cost of prescription medication for everybody.
That's why I have fought for war we need to
do around making sure Medicare covers senior care. Access to
healthcare should not be a question of how much money
you have in your back pocket. That's just not right,
and I feel strongly about that.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Blacks for Trump, they feel that Trump is better for
the black community. Can you explain that Donald Trump's history
with blacks? Where did this come back all of a sudden.
I mean, it's been like this because a lot of
people used to say I'm Donald Trump or the ghetto
because he would I mean for a lot of blacks,
not all, but for some black matterm be people. Whether

(36:36):
we want to admit it or not. He's revered by
some blacks.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
But here's the thing, the question for everybody. Should he
be president of the United States? Okay, right, that's the question.
Should he have the ability to sit behind the seal
of the President of the United States When he says
he wants to determine it the Constitution of the United States.

(37:02):
You know what that would mean in the Constitution the
United States? Is your Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable search
and seizure, your Fifth Amendment right, your sixth Amendment right
to an attorney.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Well, a lot of rights will be going to first Amendment.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
But the first Amendment, the second Amendment. Look, I'm in
favor of the second Amendment. I don't believe we should
be taking anybody's guns away. He wants to terminate the Constitution.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
The United States.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
He is the same one, like I said earlier, who
denied rent to black families, who took out that full
page ad in the New York Times calling for the
execution of those children who birtherism accusations against the first
black president. Not to mention his please ask folks to

(37:44):
google Project twenty twenty five. He would get rid of
the thirty five dollars a month cap on insulin. We
know how many of our seniors had it. I'll give
you another example of why Donald Trump has not earned
the support of folks to be president of the United
States again. When he was president the last time during
the height of COVID. During the height of COVID, one

(38:07):
in three black Americans knew somebody who died from COVID.
You remember those days, and people couldn't get their hands
on a COVID test. At that very same time, Donald
Trump as president, secretly sent COVID tests to the President
of Russia for his personal use while Americans were dying

(38:31):
every day. He has not earned the right to be
president of the United States.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
It's one thing. If he has a television show that's
very popular, he.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Can put his name on a building, even though we
all know he was not a terribly good businessman, which
is why he filed for bankruptcy six times.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
But that is one thing.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
To be president of the United States means to try
and find common ground, to build consensus, to lift up
the American can people instead of trying to beat people
down all the time. It means solving problems, which means
you have to be able to get out of your
own head and scan to be concerned about the well

(39:12):
being of other people and then do something about it.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Does anyone think Donald Trump thinks that way?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yeah, Well, empathy to require you to divorce your own
ego to see yourself as someone else.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
That's exactly right, That's exactly and we know that's not
his character. So it's about is this the right person
for that job? Right?

Speaker 3 (39:32):
He said, immigrants are taking black jobs. I don't know
what those black jobs that they're taking. Can you elaborate
on that, what the immigrants are taking? What black jobs
are they?

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Well, it's just another example of him trying to divide
and him trying to scare people. It's just another example
of him doing that, of him trying to say it's
either you or them, right, And the other thing is
that it's incredibly demeaning because and he still has not
been for define Donald Trump, what do you define as

(40:02):
a black job, Because let me tell you what I
define as a black job, vice President of the United States.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
It's a good one, right, it is. I don't know
about to pay, but it's a good job to have. Well,
you know, not everybody is, you know, what I want
to ask, you've been in basically your adult life, you've
been a public.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Service, yes, I have. But ag my whole adult life.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
You've been a DA, You've been a senator, you've been VP.
Is that what you envisioned, is that what you always
wanted to be was a public servant.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I've always wanted to serve.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
You know, I.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Was raised I mean back to whether you are however
you are raised, in the community in which you are raised,
including the church and which you are raised. I have
always believed that it is an important pursuit to figure
out how you can serve it.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
And we can do it in different ways.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Right, I chose public service, you chose a different But
it's about service. And I have always I mean, I've
only had one client my entire life, the people what
I and the reason I keep doing it is because
I know the difference that I and we can make

(41:18):
when we believe in what is possible and then work
hard at it. And my pledge in this campaign to everyone,
regardless of who you are, where you live, what you
look like, I will be a president for all Americans,
and I will work to bring our country back together
because frankly, I think people are exhausted with the anger,
with the hate, with the division, the attempt to have

(41:42):
Americans pointing their fingers at each other. I think people
are exhausting. It's not healthy for the productivity of our country.
Do we want to strive? Do we want to thrive
or do we want to spend full time with vengeance?
The meaning of the po and living a life of

(42:03):
services about I think the importance of lifting people up,
not tearing them down.

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problem that they have to you is that you're making
political promises and that you're just pandering. The problem that
I have with that it just seems like only black
people pander. Like when other candidates go and shows and

(43:34):
they say they're gonna do this, they're they're not pandering.
They're telling you, laying out their elaborate plan on what
they're going to do. But it seems to you when
you promise that if I'm president, this is what I'm
gonna do in the first ninety days, this is what
I'm gonna do it. My administration's gonna do while I'm
in office. You're pandering. How do you get through to
those that says, look, this is what I'm going to

(43:56):
do if I'm elected president. These are the policies, and
they will lead to meaningful and impactful change.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Well, part of it is just to be candid.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
I think that there's sadly a misinformation out there about
who I am and what I've done, because if people
are informed about fact, they will know that almost everything
that I'm talking about doing as president is built on
a foundation of work that I've been doing for years.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
If it is about.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Economic empowerment of the Black community in all communities, I've
been working on that. As Vice President, I am responsible
for billions of dollars from big banks and big corporations,
including technology companies, getting into community banks to increase access
to capital for minority owned and other small businesses. If

(44:49):
you look at my work over a period of years,
my focus again on something like maternal mortality is long standing,
which directly impacts black.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Men and black women right and the black family.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
If you look at the work that I am doing
that is about small businesses, you know, the person who
helped my mother raise us, who was a second mother
to us, was a small business owner. I have always
focused for such a long time on what we need
to do, knowing that our small businesses are part of
the culture of our communities, right including the economic fabric
and strength of the community. So what I'm talking about

(45:26):
doing right now is based on long standing work. It's
not new, but as president of the United States, part
of why it is important is it is a new
approach to that job. It is about a new way
that is based on a new generation of leadership, that
is based on new ideas and frankly, a different experience

(45:50):
that brings my commitment to the work I am talking
about into being.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Can you give us a breakdown of how you will
allow blacks and the minorities to access capital, because you
speak a lot about capital, and in order for people
to become successful and have some wealth is that they
need to have access. And that's right it started.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
So that's in fact, why I did, starting last year
or earlier this year, my economic opportunity to wait before
I was running for president, because I realized that so
many of our entrepreneurs don't actually have that. We need
to do better in getting information to people about what's
available to them. So, for example, through the Small Business Administration,

(46:32):
there are funds available to help people create a business plan,
There is resources available to help people just know how
that you need to run a payroll, how you need
to pay business taxes. Part of my plan, by the way,
is to simplify taxes for small businesses. I like to say,

(46:52):
it's basically Dow gonna date myself, Like you remember the
ten forty Did you ever have to do a ten forty?

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Easy? Probably?

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Never? Okay I did, But you know, simplifying tax returns
for people, including our small businesses. But the work that
I have done and will continue to do is about
knowing that we don't lack for hard work, we don't
lack for good ideas, but we do lack for information
about the help that is available. So that's part of

(47:19):
how it is going to be about increasing access to capital.
Part of it is about putting more money. So I
called up and got in touch with and worked with
some of the big CEOs of the biggest corporations in
America and said, and the big banks that you all
don't necessarily you're not there in the community where you
can get one hundred thousand dollars loan to a small business.

(47:41):
You guys deal at a different level, but those one
hundred thousand dollar loans for a startup will go a
long way.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Let's get get those billions of dollars that you've.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Got, put them into community banks who are in the community,
who know what the community needs, what they want, what
the consumers theyre want, and then support those small businesses.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
So that's my approach to access to capital.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Including making sure that people have again simplifying taxes for
small businesses. You know why, Shannon, small businesses can't afford
to hire a bunch of accountants and a bunch of lawyers.
But that shouldn't be the reason they fail because they
didn't fill.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Out the form properly. Right, So my approach is.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Really understanding the culture, understanding the needs, and then trying
to fix problems. I love fixing problems with common sense solutions.
And again, look, Donald Trump is never he is never
going to relate necessarily to the kind of folks that
I'm talking about, who on the ground just need to
be seen and heard. And then let's fix the problems.

(48:47):
Let's address the challenges to let them not just get by,
but get ahead. And I want to put a fine
point on this. Maybe it's a new perspective.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I think it is.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
I believe that we have had great success in bringing
black unemployment down.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
To historic loaves. Yes, but for me, that's a floor.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
For me, that's a floor because what I know is
that it should be baseline that everybody's working.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
That's not enough.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
People want to build wealth, yes, and intergenerational wealth, correct,
and I want to help people do that right. I know,
what if folks want to be able to take a
nice vacation from time time, have nice Christmas gifts for
their kids under the tree, and it can't just be
about well, you've got a job, applaud me for what I've.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Done for you. And that's the spirit with which I
do my work.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
I saw President Trump on a TV show and he
talked about defunding the Department of Education. Yes, basically we
know that's going to affect communities like us that don't
have the resources. And then because he says he doesn't
if they talked about slavery, they talked about slavery, which
is a part of our history.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
It's up that they're trying to cover up that they're
trying to cover up.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
To talk about racism. And he said, well, what we
would do if they talked about it, they wouldn't get funding.
And we know what communities are going to be most
impacted by non funding.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
And understand that they want to get rid of the
Department of Education and get rid of head Start. You
know whose kids are a head start? They want to
it is And to your point, and I'm so glad
you pointed this out. You know, these are the same
people who basically suggested that enslaved people benefited from slavery,

(50:39):
the same people who are trying to ban and are
banning books. And again, if we don't teach America's full history,
we will never ensure that we don't make the same
yes to do those same things again.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Let's learn from that painful part of our history to
make sure we don't repeat it, but not by not
covering it up. Let's have an open and honest conversation
about it.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
It happened, and the effects of it, yes, and the
present day effects of it.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I think we both agree. I think we can all
agree on this that there is a problem with I
don't know how the correct term I think it's undocumented.
How do we get how do we get a hold
on that matter? VP? How do we make sure because
I think I've heard you say you want a path
to citizenship, but we want to, you know, make sure
people come in and do things properly.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yes, that's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
So first of all, I have personally prosecuted transnational criminal
organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings.
I have prosecuted the Sinaloa cartel, Okay, the guadalajarror cartel.
So I put my record up to anybody in terms
of how strongly I feel about having a secure border

(51:55):
and making sure that there is not that kind of
trafficking into America. I also know that we need to
put more resources at the border, which is why I
supported a bill that came about, including from the most
conservative members of Congress, to put fifteen hundred more border
agents at the border to do what we need to

(52:17):
do to cut down the flow of fentanyl coming into
the United States, which is killing people of every race
and background. With more resources would have gone to prosecuting
human trafficking. Donald Trump got word of that bill, and
he knew it would be a solution to a problem,
which is that we have a broken immigration system. He
got word of the bill and he told his friends

(52:38):
in Congress, don't put it up for a vote, don't
let it go any further, because you see, he wants
to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem,
and is putting out tens of millions of dollars of
campaign commercials full time trying to suggest that he cares
about strengthening a border when he had an opportunity to

(52:58):
participate in a solution, which he killed because he's not.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
About problem solving, it's about a political game for him.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
My point is we got to strengthen the border, and
we need to have an immigration system that is fair
and humane and strong in terms of making sure that
people have to earn citizenship, they have to work hard
to get it. My plan includes also strengthening what we
need to do in terms of illegal entry in between

(53:27):
ports of entry, what we need to do to put
more support for border patrol agents, put more technology at
the border. But it includes also you know, I'm never
going to talk about people from Haiti eating their pets,
and I think that we also know we don't want
an immigration system that's about separating children from their parents.

(53:50):
We can do it in a humane way. But the
bottom line is we can fix these problems. The solutions
are at hand. He stands in the world and in
particular on this issue.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
If you were to become president, would you ask Congress
to bring re institute that build and try to get
it through.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Absolutely. And also I would work across the aisle with Republicans.
There are a lot of Republicans supporting me in this campaign,
and I would work with Republicans to bring this bill
back up so I can sign it into law. And
I do want to talk about that for a moment.
This is not twenty sixteen or twenty twenty in terms

(54:30):
of how people are thinking about Donald Trump. He was president,
and the people who worked the most closely with him,
Republicans at the highest level, his former chief of staff,
his former defense secretaries, his former national security advisor, and
his former vice president have collectively said he is dangerous

(54:51):
and unfit to be president of the United States.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
And Shannon, you can just watch his rallies.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
I mean, did you see that thirty nine minutes of
him swaying back back and forth to Ymca. No, the
man you have to watch and I encourage everybody who's
watching this watch what he's doing at these rallies. He
is increasingly unstable and unfit to be president, according to

(55:18):
the people who knew in best, all Republicans, by the
way I just referred to, who know he is unfit
to be commander, and she he who will talk about
service members. A lot of your listeners and the people
who are a fan of your show have served or
do serve in the United States military. He talks about
military service members as being uncourageous, as being cowards, suckers,

(55:45):
and losers. This is how the man talks. And so
let's not get distracted by who he was on the Apprentice.
Let's not get distracted by whatever you know building in
whatever city in Vegas or wherever has his name on it.
Let's look at the job of president of the United
States and is he fit to do that job? And

(56:10):
by the people who know him best, including some most
recently a four star Marine general, his former chief of staff,
they all say, those who know him best, he is
unfit and dangerous.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
The previous administration, your administration that you were in. They
got kudos for the student loan relief. What's the contingency plan,
because I see it's still trying to go through and
some of the courts have shot it down. Do you
have a contingency plan to continue the student relief.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
I'm going to keep fighting for it, and yes, because
first of all, what I know is that too many
people have been weighed down by their student loan debt. Yes,
to the point they question whether they can have a family,
whether they can can retire at some point where they
could buy a home. So that's why I pushed for
what we did around student loan debt. And thankfully, for example,

(57:05):
we have billions of dollars in student loan debt reliefs
that have gone, for example, to public servants like teachers
and nurses and firefighters.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
But there's more we need to do.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
But you know, if I go into various communities like
here in Atlanta and ask people how many people got
their student debt relieved, the number of hands that go
up and the life changing experience people have had reminds
me of the importance of this fight, and I'm going
to continue to do it.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Have you let people know that President Trump, if you
were to get back in the office, he wants to
offer police complete immunity that they can do no wrong,
no matter what how gregious the act may be. They
have complete immunity. Do people understand what that? Do they
really understand what that means? Matter? VP?

Speaker 1 (57:56):
I hope so.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
And I encourage people to go online to see how
he says it. I encourage people to go online to
see how he talks about a day of violence? Did
you ever see the movies? Understand? I again, don't take
my word for it. Take his, Yeah, take his and

(58:18):
see where he stands on these issues.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I want to get you out of here on this one,
a madam, VP, You like myself attended and graduated from
a historically black institution proudly, and it just goes to
show you if you look at myself stephen A. Michael Strahan,
three of the most prominent voices in morning television, attended
and graduated from an HBC and self ascended to the

(58:40):
highest of eyes graduated from an HBCU. What would you
what message would you like to share with students that
all these historically black university and colleges. What would you
like what message would you like to share them?

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Oh? No, your excellence and know we are so proud
of you. And we want you to have ambition. We
applaud your ambition. We want you to know you can
do and be anything, and don't ever hear know and
that know you stand on broad shoulders right because part

(59:15):
of what we know is we have a legacy. We
do and we stand then in that path knowing that
we also have the honor and the duty of excelling
in every way possible, being able to see what is
possible and not be.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Burdened by other people's limited ability to see the same.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
One more thing, I think something that's very, very near
and dear to your heart is Roby Wade. Yeah, I
think fifty plus here, I think seventy two seventy three
when it was Roe v. Wade said, Hey, women have
the right to their bodies, and all of a sudden
the Supreme Court struck it down and says, no, you don't,
we have control over that. What would that mean to you?
So how do you get that? How do you go

(59:56):
back and fight to make sure women still have control
of a of their bodies?

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
So I'm so glad you brought up chan.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
First of all, think about one of the most basic
rights that you could imagine is the right for you
to be able to make decisions about your own body.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Your own body, your reproductive rising.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
And the court just took that right away from women
to make decisions about their own body and not have
their government tell them what to do. And I think
an important emphasis for me is you don't have to
give up your faith or deeply held beliefs on this
subject to agree. The government shouldn't be telling her what
to do. If she chooses, she'll talk with her pastor,

(01:00:39):
her priest, or rabbi, her a mom, but not the
government telling her. And we need to fight against us.
We need to understand how many women are suffering miscarriage
and being denied help because the doctors are afraid they
may land up in jail. In Texas, do you know
they provide prison for life for doctors or nurses who

(01:01:00):
provide reproductive prison for life?

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Shannon in the state of Georgia, a beautiful young.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Woman, a mother of a six year old son, died
because of these Trump abortion bands.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
The majority of black women and the men who love
them live in the South.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Do you know in every state in the South except
for Virginia, there is a Trump abortion band.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Yes, I do. Hopefully everybody else knows that also.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Right, and so we all have to stand, regardless of
your gender, regardless of your race, your background, we have
to stand and say, look, this is just simply not right,
and we cannot stand for the notion that Donald Trump
could be president of the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
He who.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Chose a Supreme Court that would take this right from
the women of America and the men who love them,
and now we have women suffering to such an extent
as they are. I think it's one of the most
fundamental rights that's at play.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
One more thing before you go, Madam VP, Yes, who's
the real hut?

Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
I don't know. I didn't go to either one. So
I just I just wanted to hear you, you know,
Madam VP.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Caminar, thank you, Thank you all my life, grinding all
my life, sacrifice, hustle the price, want to slice? Got
the browap all my life. I've been grinding all my life,
all my.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Life, and grinning all my life. Sacrifice, hustle, p Price,
want to slice?

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
Got the brother swap all my life.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
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