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April 23, 2025 71 mins

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react Lakers beating the Timberwolves to even up the series 1-1, OKC beats Memphis to take a 2-0 lead & the Pacers go up 2-0 over the Bucks!

06:23 - Lakers vs. Timberwolves
23:21 - OKC vs. Grizzlies
33:00 - Pacers vs. Bucks
42:30 - NBA Overrated Players
55:30 - Potential Cowboys trade
59:44 - NFL higher-up critzies Sheduer Sanders

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talking about. The Lakers beat the Minnesota Timberwoard of ninety

(04:58):
four eighty five. The serial reason is now tied one
one as it shifts to Minnesota for the next two games.
Luca was one assist short of a triple double thirty
one twelve and nine, Lebron twenty one, eleven and seven,
Ar sixteen, five and five, Ruey eleven and five. Got

(05:19):
a balanced effort. Oh Joe, that's what we needed. I
knew two of the big three had to go off.
I mean, I'm saying big three, but I'm saying either
Luca Lebron or Ar Lebron or Luca and r. But
two of those guys had to have great dates and
we got that, and then we got Austin Reeves was

(05:40):
sensational light and then dealing with the ball and you
get a big out there on to me drag him
lay up.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, every time great.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Julius Randall played exceptional well, so that Jewish random was
a man of I mean, he's a load, he's a load,
and I don't know why y'all let him get to
that left hand because he's left hand dominant and both
left handed players, what do they want to do, Ojoe?

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Get to that left every time? Every time?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
What if you if in defense as a as a
football player, we're talk never let a quarterback escape to
his dominant hand. So if he's right handed, making roll left,
if you're left handed, make him roll right.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Well, then it's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Try to make James Harden, try to make Julius Randall,
make him go Let make him go right, keep him
by the way dominant hand. But this is what the
Lakers needed. Have a little love there in the fourth quarter,
but they got it together, made some big time played.
I was happy to see Lebron rebound like this because
we hadn't seen it rebound like this in a while,
considering that growing and we talked about it, Ojoe.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
The one thing that you don't want to do is
anything sudden when you got a.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Soft teacher in injury and he's nursing that back, trying
to get it back. But he got a couple of
days off now, so he should be fully rested and
ready to go when they head to Minnesota. The Lakers
win ninety four eighty five series now tied one one
as a shift back.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
To the what do they call it? T Land of
ten Thousand Lakes, Minnesota, Tel you want the game? What
you what you liked about? What you saw from the lake?

Speaker 5 (07:08):
Shoot the goddamn intensity. They act like they wanted to
play to night unk. They act like they wanted to
be there. There was intensity on both sides of the court.
Most most importantly, they played defense. They played defense. Luca
was gonna do what Luca does. Lebron showed up tonight.
Obviously didn't have a good game one. Most of them
didn't have a good game one outside of goddamn Luca,
but they played good in transition offensively crashing the boards.

(07:29):
Lebron obviously he must be feeling much better because I
have it. We have We haven't seen him rebound like
this tonight. You know, all over the place outside of
that man ar. They are a combination of players need
to play well tonight because of what they did in
Game one and not playing so well collectively as a group.
But Ar showed up, bron showed up, Lucas showed up,
and everybody else contributed in a in a in a

(07:50):
in a small manner. So this is this is what
you get. You get a tie series. But they got
to keep this up onunk. They got to keep up
that momentum and consistency that we saw tonight. If I'm
not mistake, and I think the Lakers was shooting sixty
one percent at the half, I could get wrong, but
correct me if I'm right.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
They cooled off a little bit, but they were.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, but man, man that that that that first half
was beautiful and to extend the game to the point
where it was at the half and getting the lead
that they did have did have that law.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
In the fourth quarter didn't hurt him much. No, I'm
trying to pull up the box score of Joe.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, do you look at the difference the difference in
game one compared to Game two for the of the
t Wolves, only two players in double figure Remember who
that Jade Daniels was perfect damn near perfect from the
three point line.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Nods red damn near perfect from the three point line.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So you had two guys that gave you exceptional plate
from the three point line on the offensive end of
Now you only had two guys in double figures.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
That's how you're gonna win.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
And see, like I said, I don't believe man by
himself can be la if you let him get eight, nine,
ten or sis and you let you now you you
in for it. Guys, guys was making shoot around threes.
You can't give them those shoot around threes. You gotta
contest those shots. And I thought the Lakers did a
great job of contesting, closing onto the body, not finally

(09:12):
wanting them off the three point line. But nas reed
did not have an opportunity to shoot those those shoot
around threes. McDaniels didn't have an opportunity to shoot those shots.
And uh, Devincenzo was in foul trouble and so he
really didn't get an opportuny to getting the ploy of
the game. Although he just hit that shot before the
end of the half, that was really all he did
the other night. But in this game, this is what

(09:34):
I like to see from the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
They need a balance.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I mean, they was okay, Still I need a little
bit more from the bench. I need a little bit
more from the bitch. It's especially going on the road though, Joe.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Yeah, most definitely, especially going on the road. Listen the
fact the defense aren't defense. The defense defense. Then boys
was scrapping the night Bron. You could tell they played different.
They wanted it, they wanted it.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
You can just tell.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
I'm not I'm not sure what differences in game one
and game in game two, but this looked like a
completely different team.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Completely different team.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, because you look at Mike Colly. You know, he
had some big threes in game one, o Jo, he
has zero points. The night got some great cardio in
just twenty one minutes a Cardio, now, hey, that's pretty good.
Continues running cardio, you know, probably faster Cardio two. Now
he ate little something today, a couple of meals to day.
But ad Man was ten of twenty two. He had
twenty five point six rebounds. The other night he had

(10:27):
nine assists. Tonight he had none. You see, I told Yo, Ojo,
I said, hey, you can't let him get the others involved.
See what Luca hurts you. If Luca go get forty
and then he gives you twelve Lebron, he gives you
twenty A Jo Kich. Those guys give you twenty thirty
and give you eleven twelve assists. Not only are they

(10:49):
getting theirs, they're helping somebody else eat also. Right now,
ad Man, he had twenty five zero assis. Lebron the
other night only had three assists. That's not nearly good enough.
And Lebron is a smart enough player, he has a
high enough IQ to realize if I got to be
able to impact the game in other ways other than story.

(11:09):
So I need to rebound, i need to assist, if
my jumper's not falling, if I can't get to the basket,
I've got to impact the game in other waves. Tonight
with this is the kind of game I'm not twenty
one points. Not mean we know Lebron can get twenty
one point anytime he wants to. But I thought the
effort that he showed, the leadership that he showed. He

(11:30):
and Luca combined for fifty two with twenty three rebounds
and sixteen assists.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
So you throw Austin Reeves in there. Now, you got what.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Six eight eight sixty eight points between those three, and
you need something like that.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
You need to buy somewhere between like sixty five and
seventy five.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Between those, I take eighty, but I ain't gonna be
greedy seventy five. And then you get rud doing you
give you a little something. And if Phinnis Smith and
gave Vincent can give you anything, you're great. You'll take
that also. Luca thirty one points, twelve rebounds, nine assists.
The first Laker says magic with those numbers in a
playoff game.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Hey, that that boy, that boy nice man. Every time
you every time he puts up a performance like this
this game, what.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
You saying, O Joe, don't you say nothing about it?
I would hear you say Dallas or fabrics.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna say Harrison okay.
But it just makes looks some of the things he's saying.
Understand that he has to fall on the sword. It
just makes him look ridiculous. Every game they play, it
looks worse and worse. So I mean, I mean, that's
why I leave it. And I ain't gonna say nothing,
and I ain't gonna say nothing. I get it. I
get it.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Uh, it's tough.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's tough, Like I said, I mean, you you look
at a guy like this, he's twenty six years of age, Yojo.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
He can do it all.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
He can score, he can be bound, he can facilitate,
he can make you know. Look, except he's gonna argue
damn near every play. Except that he's not gonna be
He's not accept them the defender. All we asked him
to do is don't get beat on the initial push
a he tried to beat you on the first go
shutting that off. Just don't give a just don't give

(13:12):
him a free range. Just don't give him a free
run to the basket. Make him go to the secle.
That's all we asked. That's all you can ask for,
because you know what he's gonna give your offensive e me.
You already know that O Joe every time. So I'm
not I'm not worried about him on the offensive end.
It's just that you try to put that and that's
what they normally do. Unless you with Jordan of Covid

(13:33):
Lebron back in his heyday, you put your best defense
offensive player on your worst defensive player. I want you
to save some of that. I want you to exerting
all that energy trying to stop him. We'll put somebody
else on him. So we need that for o offense
because that's what you know. Larry played the worst defender
because Ladd Bird was an offensive player.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
And I get it.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I ain't got no problem with that whatsoever. But this
was a great performance. The Lakers needed this. The cry
was really energize. I'm glad I didn't go to that
uh that's Saturday night game, because I'd have been pissed off.
I'd have been out of my money. Yeah, I had
to stay two extra nights, nod, So hold on, hold

(14:22):
you to spend that count of you talk about spending
twenty five for a ticket? Yeah, okay, Now you got
to spend an extra you know, two nights at the hotel,
and you get a car guy, you get a car
service to wait for you.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, uh huh.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
And I gotta pay for Jordan to stay because Jeorde
Jordan gotta do. Noh, hell no, we coming back, We
coming hole.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
What were looking like right now? What we looking like?
It's still Lakers in five? I mean what we're we
talking about?

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
All right, all right, I know you feeling good.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
I know you.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Y'all would talk of crazy. Oh, y'all would talk why
I don't know about that all T T Wood and
five hm hmm.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Look say, hey, all we did have was a temporary
setback for a major comeback. That's all we had on
Y'ALLT litt temporary little temperary setback or made you come back?

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
But I I like the I like the pace in
which they played. I like the tempo. I like the
guys hustling. I saw guys hitting the floor. I got guys.
I got guys running, guys off the line. I got
guys helping. Hey, I got guys going the extra mile. Hey,
I can look, there's nothing wrong with losing. Somebody's gonna lose,

(15:40):
but just give me the effort if we lose, and
you give me that there for Joe, you can live
with that every time.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
You can live with it. I can live with that.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
But not not, not not Game one. You can't live
with that.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
No, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
You should have been ready because normally Game one is
the easiest game to steal for the road team. Normally
the game the game wanted, the easies because you donna
catch them.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Happened because the home team is generally counting on the
crowd to get them going or to keep them going,
so now if we jump on your ass, get that
crowd out of the game, not what and before you
know it, you're like, damn, we down twenty we down
twenty five. And it takes so much for you to
get back into the game by the time you try

(16:21):
to get over.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
That hump, yeah, intil the gas you know, ran out
of time too. Yeah, but I like this.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I thought JJ did a great job of getting the
guys he said. I heard him in the press conference.
They had as good a practice over the last couple
of days they've had in the last month. He took
full accountability. Why I think about JJ, now he's gonna
take accountability. Oh yeah, yeah, could threw a few more
scrimmages up in there.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yea, this meet this on me and the funny thing apart,
And when you think about it, whoever made the comments
about them not scrimmagin it enough before the game won?
I guarantee that was a players call. I guarantee it
was a players call and allowing them to wrest a
little bit. And JD took the run of that.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
You know what, that's on me.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
That's on me, And I guarantee you I know it
was a player's called not the scrimmage as much. So
we have fresh legs and we feel good going into
game one. But the every they put up in game one,
it's a reflection that you beat.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
That'll get your beat every time, that'll get your sent home,
that'll get you like, oh we didn't play our basketball. Look,
they're not they're not an extreme. They're not like Boston.
They're not like Okay, see those are deep teams. You're
looking at the calf. Those are deep teams. Yeah, that's
not what the Lakers are. The Lakers are heavily dependent

(17:40):
on three players, Luca, Reeves and Braun. We understand that
anything we get outside of that, we greatly appreciate this,
We well humbly except but you can't go in counting
on man. You know, hey, we will get like sixteen
from Finny. We don't get like ten to fourteen from
gay Jack and Hayes. Gonna give us a dumpe. No, Yeah,

(18:04):
the big three have to be sixty five eighty points
two or the three needs to be kind of efficient.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
But uh, it was. It was a great game tonight.
Lakers played.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
This is what I expect to see from the Lakers,
and uh, we going to Minnesota, laying the ten thousand Lakes.
We're gonna pee in the lakes fall ten thousand doublebe.
Maybe maybe we go out there and take us a
plunge uh in Lake Minnetonka.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Hey, hey, huh, what do you see the weather is
in Minnesota right now.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
It's close to Green Bay. So yell, that might be
in the forties of the fifties. Oh Joe, Oh, that's
perfect weather there too. Boll you have a swim in
forty you listen, if we can get it, if we
get in, if we can get in the cold hub,
we can get it. We can get into Lake forty fifty.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
A wrong with that? No, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's one thing to be sitting in the cold till,
but to be in the cold water, yeah, I mean
it didn't. It didn't bother me because when I was
at State, a lot of time the hot water would
go out, and so you knew exactly when the hot
water would go out. Became somebody damn loud, Yeah, cause
you know we had we had community showers till we
had no shower. We had community shower. Man, all you're

(19:26):
damn water.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
I remember I remember growing up. I remember growing up
a grandma house.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Man.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
If if you're in the shower, the first thing you
say before you get in the shower is do not
flush the toilet, because if you the toilet, it's gonna turn,
it's gonna make the water, it's gonna make the water cold.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Long behold. They wait till you get in the shower
and want to play games. Go on and flush the toilet.
And Joe, we ain't had that problem. No, mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
We were no shower now. It wasn't no flushing the toilet.
He was outside bro in the wood and he never
had no problem like that. I guess, I guess where
you brought over, Joe. That was a great problem to have.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Huh, yeah, it is. It is Dad. We didn't have
that problem.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
The Thunder taking command in two old lead over the
Grizzlies SGA twenty seven, eight and five j Dove twenty four,
six and five, Chet twenty eleven and five blocks. The
Thunder had to lead for all but for three minutes
and two seconds of the ninety six minutes over the
first two games. They've done it despite SJA scoring only
forty two points on fourteen of forty two shooting and

(20:45):
going four of seventeen from three tonight. I thought it
was JDub that really sparked him. He and Check got
it going early. For whatever reason, SGA has struggled with
his shot a little.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Bit, o' joe.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
He han't been to SGA because he shot over fifty
percent from the floor. He's got forty two points scored,
but he took you forty two shots to get it.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah. Yeah, he wasn't a fishing to night.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
He wasn't a fishing the first game. The first game either,
and it blew up beat him by fifty one. They
beat him by what eighteen nineteen to night and he's
still had played his best game.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Hey, hey, that's scary enough just time. Yeah it is.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
He gonna be on most of them, some of the greats,
most of the greats. They always have games like this,
but they'll make you forget about it. They'll make you
forget about it. And probably going into game three, he's
probably going to show up and really close this thing out.
I even tweeted, obviously the blow out by fifty one
in the first game, and I'm thinking to myself in Jamaran,
understanding how great a player he is, how good he

(21:42):
can be, how explosive he can be? I tweeted, can
the Grizzlies pull this and make it a seven game series?
Is it any chance?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yo? And Twitter jump on my head like, man, this
is over.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Bring the booms out. Yeah. And then and obviously I'm thinking,
and I'm seeing the tweets, and and I saw the
comparison about s G and John Morant and how they
say every year you see improving in the game, and
then John Morant they say they don't see improving in
him on the court. And I'm and I'm curious for
those who analyze the game of basketball and watching that close,

(22:20):
how do you say something like that with an individual
who doesn't have much help around him. He is, he
is the four, he is the force. He is, so
how can you say he's not improving? You know, they
got an All Star defensive Player of the Year and
Jared Jackson who hadn't played well Jasmind Baine.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, but that I mean they got rid of Big
Adam than they got Zach Zach Edi Zach. But this,
this is this is the way the team is constructed.
This is what the team is destructed on. A lot
of it has to do with A lot of it
is is jobs own doing. You know, he had to
get the suspensions two of those. He's been injured a lot.
So you know, it's hard to get better when you're

(23:04):
rehabbing because you're rehabbing you just try to get back
to the point, as opposed to when you train, you
try to get better. See, rehabit tried to get you
back to your original state. Well, getting me back to
my original state doesn't improve me.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Right, Okay, improvement. So I got a trained Okay, I
got you, I got you, I got you, I got Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
So that's the thing I mean thinking about you had
the shoulder. He's been dealing with he's been dealing with
some stuff. So hopefully he can come out of this
season healthy and he can just you know, take him
a month off, getting back in the gym and beat
the job. Look, John's supposed to be an All Star.
Now it's not easy because you're in the West. Steph
Shaye a hardened. You got Jamr Murray. You had a Fox,

(23:45):
Deer and Fox. It's not a you got Luca. Yeah,
so it's not easy to make it up a guard
in the West.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, But you just guy to understand this this would
be his last time being in the West, so he's
gonna be all stuck. He's gonna be in the East
next year.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Huh, where are you going?

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Oh, come on down here to Tussy's with your boy. Yeah,
you're gonna be right down here in Southeast with your boy.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know j' gonna see this baby. Well,
we got you baby right here in three h five now.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yes, sir, listen.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
I love Memphis. I love Memphis. No disrespect to them.
I know they have a series to play right now,
but come on home.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Jock came home.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
The Oklahoma City Thunder has now won six games against
Memphis this season by combining one hundred and forty five points.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
That's a twenty four point two geez point differential. It's
not federal, uncle, it's not fair. We'll starting five is strong,
the bench is strong. They deep. Uh huh. Yes, Jay
ain't not on.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
He goes ship acting a fool.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Yes, there's always somebody to count if someone else isn't
playing well as opposed to Memphis. Okay, y'all gotta be on.
If j'all not on, Okay, and bang, we gonna carry us.
Okay and Devin beat on them. Now where I'm getting
up Will, I'm giving production from right.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You're right, okay, see deep, you got a zail Joe,
you got Wiggins, you got a Caruso, you got lou
Dort chipping in. I mean you got some guys, uh
that play extremely well. They play extremely well.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
And when like I said, and the thing else SGA
hadn't been on and they're still winning these games. Yeah,
I mean think about it. They won by fifty one
and I think they won by nineteen tonight, so that's
thirty five points.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
They then won by two games.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's exactly thirty thirty five points because they won by
seventy games, which the second most because of the first
two games, because I think the Lakers won by seventy four.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
So yeah, and that's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
So but they play. Look, we know what the thunder
represent in that building. They've always been toughing that building
to cry. It's the only show in town.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Show.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
They know other pro teams. You know, you got college
and ain't nothing going on. I mean you close to Norman,
you know Oakie State and stuff like that, But it
ain't nothing. Ain't ain't nothing else going on. So they're
rabbit about their basketball and rightfully so. And they they've
had some you know, Shaye has blossomed because can you
imagine when they had Russ, they had hard Uh, they

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had Kad, they had Obaka, they had a shrewder, they
had they were they were loaded. And then you know
obviously kd left and Surge left and James Harden left,
with James Harden with the first to leave. Uh you know, oh,
they had excuse me, they had Reggie Jackson. That's what
I meant to say. Reggie jack Hey, Reggie. Reggie played

(26:46):
with the Clippers too, right, he played.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
With the Clips.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Where where Reggie at nine?

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I don't know if he's in the league. Last year
he played with the Nuggets. I think okay, I think
he played with the Nuggets last year.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
But uh, it was they had it. They had it rolling.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
And now that they're they're rolling again with s G
A and and and and you know, J Dubb, you
got chat, you got Hartenstein. Guys understand their role. They
do their role to the max, to the fullest. It's
a good team. This is a good team. Now, don't
don't get me wrong, you know, but I still.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Nobody want you wait city and say again City ain't.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Lacas and five?

Speaker 5 (27:39):
All right, be careful that listen.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
You know it's need to be careful. Oh who it's
much more.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Difficult to win in Minnesota playing away, that's a different
ball game.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
It is.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
We ain't thinking about the thunder. Okay, it ain't something.
We ain't wet, no thunderstorm, So we ain't worried about
the thunder right now. We we got out, we focused,
we turtal vision, We focused on Minnesota.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
So y'all got to get past Minnesota first, because the
next two how many how many games in Minnesota? Two
or three?

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Two with three total? But we're gonna take We're gonna
take go back. Hm, we ain't going back. Our job
is once we come home, not to return. Oh so
you so.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Basically what you tell what you're basically what you're telling me?
What you basically what you're telling me? You're telling the chat.
The Laker is gonna win next two games in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
That's our goal. Oh, that's your goal. But you know
you don't sound very confident. They were.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I definitely, I definitely not know. We're getting the game
three for sure. Okay, how once we get game three mins.
What gets sweep steaks? Hey, oh Joe, you're going to
the stove. Hey, o Joe, grab your pack of a
business hedges. You're going to the store.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Did you say business hedges?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (28:55):
What you know about missiness edges?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Man?

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Hey, that's that's so thow pad. I think I think
used to smoke them. Man, it was the white with
the green with the green of this all right? Yeah, yeah, man,
she used to send me to the store to get
them thing for back of the day. That's crazy, miss
I ain't heard that in years been.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
I don't even nobody. I don't know nobody smoke those
I mean, I mean people don't smoke. You don't say.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Maybe they do, but I don't see as many people
smoking as it did when I was a kid, because
you know, you used to can smoke. You can smoke
a restaurants everywhere, on the plane, section smoke on the plane.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
I won't remember you can smoke on the plane. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Did he cut that bull jive out that they know
they need to bring that about them? Paul mall in
the whistling them saying the Virginia Slims. They don't know
noh about that.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
I know about them Damn Benson the Hedges because listen,
I never I never forget Grandma used to send me
to the corner store forty fifth and tenth Avenue, No.
Forty fifth and twelfth, right right there, right right there,
to get them business way. I'll never forget, never forget.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
The Pacers beat the Buck ruined Dames dollar return. He
hadn't played in over a month, but the Pacers win
one twenty three, one fifteen. The Pacers now lead the
series two oh For the second game in the row.
The Pacers had ballot scoring six players in double figures.
Pascal Siakam, Tyrese Halliburton, Miles Turner, Aaron Nestsmith, Nim Hard

(30:20):
and Benedict Mattburn.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
The dep Barry. They are their D team, They're balanced team. TJ.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
McCalla didn't didn't get in on the action because he
normally gives you double figures.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
But that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
And although Giannis and Bobby Porter's played extremely well, uh
you know, Dame is trying to work his way back
into it.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
He but off a month.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, you know, I'm sure I don't know how much
he was doing with with that blood clot, but you know,
let's let's see how the first let's see how gave
three goals because he's got you know, try to get
his leg because I don't think he played. He didn't
play much more than twenty plus minutes. It's gonna be
very interesting to see. How does he feel.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Probably a little sore ochoe. You know, you don't do
so for a month, Yeah, and you a little sore,
and then then you come back. Then you come back. Obviously,
you practice, you practice, you get it in. But playing
in practice and playing the game is completely different, especially
after being off a whole month. You got to get listened.
You said the right thing. We got to get your
legs back up underneath you because it's different. It's a
different ball game. You can you can run a hundred

(31:20):
gases and practice all, you know, the game time is different. Yeah,
Janni's averaging thirty five fifteen and four, shooting sixty five
percent from the floor.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
But he finally finds himself down O two. I think
the thing is is that this saying, look, let y'all score.
We just got to keep everything else under control. Everybody
else that assist total, That's what I'm looking at.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
You go back and look at them.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
When they made this run late in the season, it
was because Johanna's was damnar averaging the triple double every game,
or his assist total was way up there, seven eight, nine.
Sometimes he had eleven twelve assists. Now it's like, get yours.
Ain't nobody else eating you, get you a belly full,
I mean, eat all you want to, ain't nobody else eating.
Bobby Porter's played well tonight. They needed one other guy,

(32:11):
and they can get if they can get Yannis and
Bobby to.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Play like this. I don't know when they played the
Knights to this, so they probably played Friday.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
If they played Friday Saturday, and they can get Bobby
and Yannice to play like this and get Dame to
give them a little bit.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
More than what he gave him night. Right, they're gonna
be all right.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
They're gonna be alright because the thing is is that
Indy Andy is But think about it. You got all
these guys in double figures. That's how they win. They
don't have a situation where a guy gonna go get
you thirty or forty. They're gonna have a bunch of twenty.
You know, one guy might have twenty five and they're
gonna have twenty nineteen, seventeen, sixteen, fifteen. They played the

(32:51):
numbers game on yo Jo, you know where you have
like a like a Yiannis Yanny gonna get your fifty
fourteen and six every time, kind of like what the
Okcay might get you gonna give you thirty, but j
Doug gonna give you twenty two, chance, gonna give you fifteen,
Hartenstein gonna.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Give you eight. You know, Lou Door to give you ten. Yeah,
they just chop you up.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
You get Isaiah, Joe, you got Wiggins, know Wallace and
uh So it's gonna be it's gonna be an interesting series.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
I like this. I like that the back and forth
between Halliburton and the game. Yeah what else where? That's
them from where, that's them from Danks. I got something
for you.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Doing a lot of talking because you know, today the
pole came out and Tyrese Halliburton was voted the most
overrated player.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Overrated that's what they say. That was the player.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
And it all depends on who's doing the vote.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Now, we talk about the fans, and we talked about.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Vo medium players voted Tyrese Halliburton the most overrated player.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
In the NBA, the players are that link A. You
believe that, you believe that?

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Do you really believe the the players actually take taking
account that polling, take it actually serious.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
When somebody voted, now they said it was the players.
I ain't got I ain't finna go back here. I
ain't fin to say, you know, getting myself in no trouble,
ain't talking about no dominion. And the balance was stuffed
and then illegal counting. But all I'm saying is is
that I don't Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I don't like that. Man, they have these polls all
the time. Vote shoe what you talk about?

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah, I know they had these polls all the time,
but you never hear about players actually taking these got
damn polls.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
You notice that the players do all the talking all
the time.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
They got you know, they do podcasts, they talk to media,
and then we have not once heard players say, you
know what, I've actually voted for so and so when
a certain poll came around about a certain statistical category. Now,
I remember Pro Bowl voting. I remember that outside of that,
all these other voting and all these other categories they
always have. For some reason, I've never seen any players

(34:52):
talk about it, whether it be football or basketball.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
But oh Joe, think about it now, what did it happen? Now,
o Yoe? The top one hundred players, i'd have got
a vote. So who's voting on that?

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Ain't no telling, honestly, the player.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
I mean, all I know is they where they go.
They voted the players as such and such and such
and such. So I don't know. But somebody voting for that, yeah,
I think they as a player. You can't vote for
a player on your own team. Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
I don't see how they call mister mister Halliburton, you know,
overrated playing on the Olympic team. He's the best player
on the paces right now.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
You know, you might be the best player. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
I listen, I love Pascal Siakam. He's not better than
brother Halliburton.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
You know.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
I ain't doors Burke, but my eyes work. I watched
the game, and I watched the games. I you know
Pascal Siakam nice. I used to watch the He's with
the Raptors.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, uh uh uh uh Burke, you Artie, which one
which one, which one got the round face? Which one
got a little cold shaped head? O Joe the round face. Yeah,
pastcal that's Burke. Nah, Ernie got his cold shaped head.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Ernie.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Ernie is the one that yet anyone, anyone that's red
got Burke. I ain't seen, but I ain't seen, but
yeah heard got.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah he got Burke. Burke got Burke is the one
with the red that was right, Burt. No, Burke is
the one with the ryne with the round face. Oh
but you ain't seen. You ain't seen the Muppets. That's
not sensame Street. That's the Muppets.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Man, I got the ball. You heard me? Huh, that's
the Muppets. Yes, it is right, this is the Muppets.
I don't know Burke and Ernie.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
It's Burke.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
You talk about Burke, it's Burke, b.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
E r T.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Burton.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Man.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Every time I look at you, man, every time I
look at these dude, man, I started laughing. What happened?
I mean, I just be looking at him.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Man, It's just like because uh, the one with the
round face always stayed in some bull dys.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
He was always.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Ernie and bro. But it's Burke and Ernie Burt.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Hey, Well I need to turn it. Well, I got
to turn it on well, I just wipe my face
three thirty seven time, Well, I don't.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Know why you sitting up in there. That's harder than yours.
Oh Choe dang.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Ninety votes were cast, Oh Joe Yeah? Who is the
league's most overrated players? There were ninety votes cast.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Howey vote ninety votes.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Tyrese Halliburton was first, Rudy Gobert was second, Trey Young
was third, Jimmy Butler was fourth, Bradley Bell fifth, Dramond
Green sixth, John Morant seventh, Julius Randall eighth, Janni's excuse
me no, joeln b Knight.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Janni's was tenth.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Now you see how I know this wasn't the players.
This is how I know it wasn't the players. Johnnys
how you got Giannis on there, That's how you know
it wasn't the players. Plays ain't vote on that. I
ain't know it ain't numb but the media. It ain't
number the media, people having personal vendettas against certain players.
It's about the players vote on this. The devil is
a lie h Who is the MVP? There was a

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hundred and fifty five votes cast.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Shake Gilgers Alexander got fifty six percent of the vote.
Nicola Jokic got thirty seven percent of the vote, Giannis
at the Kunfo and Donovan Mitchell tied with one point
nine percent of the vote, and Goat James got one
point three percent of the votes. Which team other than
your own will win the NBA title this season? Boston

(39:25):
Celtics got almost fifty eight percent of the votes. Okse
Thunder got eighteen percent of the vote seventeen point five,
The Cleveland Cavaliers got ten point two, the Los Angeles
Lakers got six point six, and the Denver Nuggets got
four point four. Those and the Golden State Warriors and
the Milwaukee Bucks tied with fifth. Five years from now

(39:47):
ojo Who will be the face of the league with
fifty four percent of the vote, Victor wimbin Yama second,
with aunt Man third, Shake Gilgers four, Jason Tatum five,
Luka donchet.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
I like I like ant I like ant being the
face that Luca is great. He still doesn't have that
that it factored that or that makes you the face
of the league. Ant Man has that that in factor.
I don't know how to explain it. I don't know
how to put it into words. The chat if you
if you listen to me, I'm I'm sure you'd understand.

(40:27):
If you don't understand, it would be hard for me
to explain. Michael Jordan had that it factor, Kobe had
that IT factor. You can't teach it, you can't coach it.
It's just in you and just the way you carry yourself,
the way you play the game. I don't know how
to put the almost cursed. I'm sorry, I don't know
how to put it into words. You understand exactly what
I mean. I'm trying to think Jason Tatum. He's a

(40:49):
great choice, NBA Champion, All Star, you know, m v P.
But he just doesn't have that Oh there's something missing
from that. Yeah, it's something I just don't I don't. Again,
I don't know how to put into words or explain it.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
But I like and you know what it is when
you see it. Oh yeah, oh yeah, it just I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
And got that like.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Just different, Yeah, it's just different. What is the league's
worst run organization? The Charlotte Harness wanting this one very easily,
thirty six percent of the vote. The Washington Wizards was
second with twenty percent of the vote. The Pelicans eleven
and a half percent of the votes, Sacramento Kings eight
point eight percent of the votes, the Philadelphia seventy six

(41:39):
is five point three, and the Dallas Mavericks at four
point four percent.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
What you like on there? I can't fight them. I
can't fight them. On the top three, Charlotte Charlotte as
far the worst, the worst ran.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, Charlotte and Washington they they ain't got nothing wrong.
But everybody that's up there, they deserve.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
To be up there.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Hey, is it is the fact that they can't get
players to come play there well, and the one that
didn't play there stay hurt. I mean LaMelo hurt every year.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
O Joe?

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Oh yeah, ay he nice boy when he not when
he's healthy.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Okay, win what well? LaMelo liked that boy you gotta
get and daddy say you need to get well.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
The team said he needs to get stronger. His dadd
has been saying he needs to get stronger.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Right, you got it? I mean he got bad.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
But I'm saying the thing is like like Mellow and
uh and a Loonzo, they kind of built. They kind
of like wy reframe. They ain't built like lebarn Lebar
played football, right, Jello got Lebar's body.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Yeah, hey, but I think if you if you put
on if you put on muscle, it will take away
from his game, his style.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
But he got to get. He gotta get. I mean
I can.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
It's one thing to be fair, but on y'all, I
mean every time, I mean he go down, I mean,
mellow missing ten, fifteen to twenty games clip.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
That's too much. He's too young. Yeah, I feel you.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
I mean it is framed the center of the John
Joab the same way, Alan As the same way as well.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
You know they weren't big.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah, but see jah, Josh spend so much time up
in the air, so he's coming down. He coming down
landing on that court. But A I was tough at
Wet leather Man because hey, I was playing like that
at Ai played. I don't know how Hey, I did it, Yeah,
in the club all night and then come out there
and give up here. So practice I forgot. He ain't

(43:40):
do no practice, oh, Joe. Aside from your own current coach,
who is the best coach in the league? Mark Dagno
twenty one point eight percent of the vote. Kenny Hankinson
thirteen point six He had x Spostra tied, Joe Missoula
twelve point two, ty Lou eight point two, Steve Curve
four point seven, hell JJ Redick even got some votes.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Michael Malone is no longer.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
On the team, no long coach of the team or
Tyler Jenkins both got relieved of their duties during the season.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
What happened to I'm a emy? I mean I made
Udoka three point four percent of the vote. A JB.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Bickerstaff two point seven, JJ two point seven, Michael Malone
two point zero. Chauncey Billups, Taylor Jenkins and Quinn Slider
each round out the final three at one point four percent.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Who was who was first?

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Again?

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Mark Dagnow, okay, see coach?

Speaker 5 (44:39):
Yeah, and that that's about right. It's hard to argue that.
It's hard to argue that, but obviously, you know it's
really not okay. I don't want to be rude to
say this, but when you have players like that, you
have s g A and the supporting cast he does,
when you have the bench that he does. But then
as a coach, get the vote like that cause you
got you got you got got coaches getting fired most

(45:01):
of the time, it's I think It's a little bit
different for NBA because there's been some superstars that play
together and coach still got fired.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Hell, if the Phoenix Suns coaches got fired, you had Bill,
Bill Booker and KD.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Boy then got what you call they got the coach
before that fire and the coach before that five they
got three three straight years of the row they fired
the coach. Yeah, but so you can't say that in
the NBA.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
You can't say players get coaches fired when it comes
to the NBA because the players are actually good.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
I think they they they don't play well together.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
How how I don't understand when you go play at
LA Fitness, when you go play recreational foot recreational ball,
if you get the best players on your team, nine
times out of ten, you finna win. In the NBA
for some reason that it don't work like that.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
No, because you got to play together. You only got
one ball.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
That's why you know, I ask bad what you're gonna
do if I put Let's just say I put the
three best receivers out there. Let's just say I put
Chase Jefferson and tyreey Man.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
You know how unhappy they're gonna be. Hey with what
what football?

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Not not in this, not in this, not in this offense,
not to day's offense. Here they throw the ball a
hundred times a game. Yeah, but every player ain't getting
ten catches a game.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Hey, so what happened when the guy gets twelve catcher
and the other guy get three?

Speaker 3 (46:24):
How they're gonna work out? I'll let you go and
tell the chair. How do it's gonna work out on you?
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
That's that's just just exactly a hypothetically speaking, that'll be dangerous.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
That's that's why you need one dog. And then you
have somebody else that can blend in. You put two
of them guys over there, and somebody get twelve one
one game and the other get.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Three, even if you won the game. He down on
lifts where you go in the locker room?

Speaker 5 (46:52):
Wait, hold on, now, we had a small example of
that over there in Philly. Now that they got two
dogs out there, I don't care what nobody say them
two number ones over there?

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Uh some games? And what did AJ Brown say? And
he was hot? He was hot? Okay, thank you? He
was hot hot?

Speaker 5 (47:09):
Okay? That boy pull that book out.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
The keef from blowing up. People keep him blowing up.
I like that.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
That's a good strategy, aside from your current coach, who
is the worst coach in the league. Brian Keith one
that going away, Mike Budenholzer, he's no longer there.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Charles Lee. I only know Nick Nurse.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I know he coached for Philly, Tom Thibodeaux, Nicks Ratchovic,
he coached for Toronto, Christy Sacramento, Jordan Fernandez?

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Is that is that in Charlotte and Michael Malone.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Denver, Oh, Joe, if a fire broke, if a which
player in the league would you least like to fight?

Speaker 3 (47:55):
James Johnson one that's going away sixty three?

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Uh? And then you got Isaiah Stewart at thirteen point five,
Steve Big, Steve Adams eleven point three, Lou Dort at
two point one.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Hey, Isaiah Stewart.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
And and who's what's what Johnson?

Speaker 3 (48:16):
James Johnson. Yeah, he like a fourth degree black belt.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
I wouldn't I wouldn't care if he was the fifth
degree orange belt. I'm just saying, I like me against
him and Isaiah Stewart.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
What you think? Mm hmm, No, that met that man
chopping you here? That permanent part, Hey, you know I
took karate two. I no, no I took.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
I took karate classes in across from Start Projects at
Gwen Cherry Paul. Yeah, I was a black belt. I
was a black belt Green Cherry Park. I forgot my
instructor's name. He passed away a long time ago, across
from Start Project. Right, I'll never forget. No, I promptly
leave it that alone. What Noah, Now, I'm telling you,

(49:12):
I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
I don't I don't know. I forgot, I forgot my routine.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
I know.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Good.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Do you like Adam Silvers's idea of changing ten minute quarters?
Seventy eight percent said no, thirteen percent says yes, eight
and a half percent are undecided. Would you like it
if the NBA went to ten minute quarters? I think
that might be what it is in feeble.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
When you you like, you like that better?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Nah, cause it when you start messing with the game,
Oh Joe, you start changing. Now you get records and stuff.
I mean, because now, oh Joe, you're about to go
to seventeen We had seventeen games, but going to eighteen games. Look,
it used to be twelve games. It used to be
fourteen games. It used to be sixteen, now seventeen. When
you go to eighteen, it's too much.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
I mean, is if you're gonna change the game, are
you changing for the betterment of the game. Is it
changing it for the players? Is it for health reasons?
It depends.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I'm curious money. When you add games, you adding it
for money. The same thing with the play in right,
because think about it. You you get an extra three games. No,
you get an extra three games on your on each side,
so you get six game totes because you got seven
play eight, nine play ten. Whoever wins out of seven eight,
they're the seventh seed, the loser of seven eight play

(50:34):
the winner of nine ten, right, So that's three extra games.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Hmm. That's a nice little chie. That's a nice little
chunk of chunk of pie too.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, that's why they got that, whether a seven year
seventy seven billion or yeah, seventy seven billion dollars bill,
eleven year seventy seven billion, something like that.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
But they got a nice little trumpet change. Yeah. I like, Oh,
Joe Jerry Jones headed there we go.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Dallas isn't done in the trade market this offseason. And
then there are a couple of deals in the work.
We're looking at two things that could happen before or
after the draft. Two pretty substantial trades been working on today,
O Joe or the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Finally going all in.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
No, probably not, Probably not, because if he said something
about it, it's probably not gonna happen. You know, if
it actually happens without him saying it, then yes. I
mean history, history shows that Jerry will say a lot
of things and not do the thing necessary to improve
the team year in and year out. So why should
this year be any different? I think maybe he came

(51:42):
out and said something just to catch the headlines. Jess
can't say headlines like he always does, give the fans hope.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Well, what if he trade? What if he traded for Tyreek?
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
I know you do.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Now you give not man ship.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
You put that feed with CD in the slot? Man what.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
And you have listen, you have a compliment, you have
a complimentary number three? Then wait a minute, I ain't
even mentioned the draft yet. They pick up what twelve?

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Right? Twelve?

Speaker 5 (52:28):
They pick a twelve that high they might be I forgot, Well,
I'm trying to think young bull O Marion o Marion
if he's there, Oh Mark, what's his last name?

Speaker 3 (52:41):
From? Run it back from?

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have ghetto' Marion asking Genty.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
Obviously it's going to be gone or the Cowboys if
you want to, if you really want to be slick,
if you're really serious about winning and changing your program.
Mm hmm, man, go go on up and sleep up
there and get asking genty. Can you imagine adding him
to that offense?

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Yeah, I'll I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
I mean, look, I understand the running back is coming back,
but people don't normally move up to take no running back.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
If you know that, they move up to take every
other positions up that guy, well, let's let's let's talk
about it though. Let's talk about it. The addition of
Saquon Barkley from the New York Giants to the Philadelphia
Eagles was the last missing piece to get them over
the hump to win a championship. For probo offense alibnman,
who you got four probow offense alignment? Oh, that's a
good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Hey, you got to a receiver that can lift coverage
outside quarterback? How your quarterback looking they will.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
I mean, you got dak if I'm just saying hypothetically speaking,
if Jerry, if Jerry puts his money where his mouth
is and and go get Tyreek from Miami. Man, stop playing.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
You know Zach Martin retired.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
Yeah he did, he did, he did.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
And then in that Bay office line wasn't very good
last year old Joe.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
No, they wasn't.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
They were. They were banged up too. They were banged up.
They were banged up.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
Like they put that in the universe too, put that
in the universe. He reg I know you're gonna see this, Dack.
I know you're gonna see this CD. Y'all gonna see
this Jerry, You're probably gonna see this too. Makes something happen, Man,
make them happen. To change it up, man, shoot the dice. Hey,
Jerry Jones, I don't know if you play se Loo,
but roll it, roll it baby. I don't know if

(54:31):
you play sea loott.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
But y'all just about to make you upset. Give me time,
Give me time, Let me give my towel. About to
be upset.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
Yep, you're about to be upset. Okay, talk to me.
Let me get some of this all of my skin.
What y'all think about it? I need to use some
of them.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
I hey, look, I've been even fat back and crackling
something that suit of mine head.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
An NFL assistant coach spoke about your door Sanders to
Tom Teller Sero and said, the worst former interview I've
ever been in in my life. He's so entitled, he
takes unnecessary sacks, he never plays on time, he has
terrible body language, he blames teammates.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
But the biggest thing is he's not that good man.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
That's some book.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Come on, man, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
What are we doing? Behind behind all that was that
was said? Is there a name to that? O?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Till before you go any further, the worst former interview
I've been in. He's so entitled. Okay, he takes unnecessary sack.
That's not an interview. He never plays on time. That's
not the part of the interview. He's horrible, but he
has horrible body language. He blames his teammate. The biggest
thing when is he ever? I thought of the interview

(56:09):
when he came in. You know the way he talks,
he talks about himself. He's condescending, he's you know, blah
blah blah. That's an interview.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
None of it that that makes that's making no sense.
And I'm curious.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
We know why, we know why they're the pundits are
doing this, the analysts and whoever it may be.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
We don't take you, assistant coach, if you're on the team,
you recommend that they don't take they don't take shador
But you don't got to do this.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
Yeah, it's not making that.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Man is confident.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Ain't nobody, ain't nobody said nothing. When Baker Mayfield was
Baker Mayfield was a lot like this.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Can hear none of this?

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Actually he was a little He was a little He
was a little bit more more flamboyant than this, much more.
I mean, Shader does the watch listen. Baker Makesfield was
a was a real one, playing the flag in the
middle of the field, you and talking trash.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Oh you don't want to shake my man?

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Okay, bet bet hold my beer mm hmmry Baker was.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
A real one. But they enjoyed it.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
They enjoyed it when he did it. Obviously, when it
comes to you know, shador Ah, it's it's a personal
personal vandada. Obviously, not only against him, but those who
don't like as father as well, and it's carrying over
when the two should be separated in general. Don't allow
your hate for Prime or whatever whatever it's things you
might have for him to affect what shadors going to

(57:33):
do for a team at the next level.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Listen, you turn on the film.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
It speaks for yourself. What are we talking about? I
show myself for the discussion. Turn everywhere he's going. He's
been successful if he's.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Not that good? So how Colorado? How Colorado go from.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
A one win team to a like a five win
team to all of a sudden eight nine win team.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
Again, the proof is in to putting when you turn
the film on, forget what they talking about.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Whoever that was.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Pittsburgers on the clock the door hitting at the Steelers
pick the duel was asked, who's on this mount Rushmore duos?
Along with Brady and Gropp and Rogers and Davante his
last spot, whoever the quarterback is for DK Metcalf and
George Pickens, whoever it is that, whoever, whoever that is
this year?

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Hmm, wait a minute, bring that to me one more
time so I get a better understanding my.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Rushmore duos Brady and Gropp, Rogers and Davante and the
quarterback they throwing to DK and Pickings. Who's gonna be
the quarterback? I mean, you put those names out there.
I guess you're thinking it's gonna be you.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Mm hm.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Who's your other out?

Speaker 2 (59:00):
If you got Brady Gropp, Roger Davonte, uh huh, you
gotta have you gotta have Rice with either Young or Montana?

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Yeah, Rice, I like? I like Rice Young, but better.
I mean you got Rice Montana better? Okay, okay, okay?
Can I can I give another one? Yes? I like
Rossis Burger Brown okay, and better than my homeboy tramp O.

(59:30):
Good one. Are you are we putting? Are we putting
the tight end in that in the receiver category? Or yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
You did?

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Brady grom with my homeboy and and and tram would
be would be in that obviously. What about what about
Philip Rivers and uh Antonio Gates.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
That's nice, it's nice. It's not it's not and it's nice,
especially with the numbers they put up together, good really
good numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
They put up great number.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Mark Andrews said the gloves were completely soaked on the
final two point conversion play against the Bills when he
dropped the ball and was debating taking them off to
play before I'm thinking, do I take it off?

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Do I not?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
It was so fast, so quick that it just happened.
At the end of the day, I still should have
caught the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Oh, Joe, I hate real living stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
It was hard for the rest of his life.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
Yeah, it was a low ball, but it was catchable.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
It was a difficult ball, especially for a tight end
looking down, you know, I just but that that's the
hardest ball. That's the hardest ball to catch.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Yeah, anything the wa trying to trying to slide, yeah, yeah, yeah,
trying to slide on Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
You don't really track it because you got to look
it all the way in and you kind of like
crazing it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
And get to your pass so quick it was to
hit the paths that you ate put your hands on.
It about gone. Yea ball gone.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Yeah, that's that's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
I mean, hands wet.

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
That really had nothing to do with it, you know,
in that scenario, especially as soft as soft as a
ball as the ball was thrown.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
If you're thinking, if you if oh, Joe, what should
have happened? If you think about doing something, go ahead
and do it. If you're thinking about taking the gloves,
he probably should took him off for I'm should talking
about mm hmm, damn.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
I hate that man gonna live that's relived that situation,
and people are going to remind him of it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
To the surprise of even some Atlanta Falcon staffers, First
Cousins reported to the start of team's voluntary off season
program today. Given the voluntary nature of Fuddy's one off
season workouts consisting of meeting strength and conditioning, the expectation
was Cousin might skip this stage as he waits for
a future to unfold, and the expectation that even had

(01:02:00):
coach Raheem Marsh shared as recently as April. First, Oh,
Joe Cousins, I ain't gett y'allnother's money getting every dime y'all,
supost give me one hundred meal for the guarantee.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
You're gonna get it for the guaranteed one hundred meal. So, so,
what's what's gonna happen in the situation like this? I mean,
you and you would you would be better suited to
know better than I would. They're gonna have to pay him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
You look, you can't cut him, right, yeah you can.
That's what he did with Russ.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
But you still have to give him money regardless. Yes,
I see.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
That's why Pittsburgh was able to get him for a
million dollars because the Broncos had to pay the thirty
eight million.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
So Cousins still hold a boatload of money. Oh Joe, Jesus,
I don't. I don't see him as a backup, right,
I don't. Well, just being honest, what teams are out
there that need a quarterback?

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
The ones that need the quarterback are gonna find those
needs in the draft because they're looking for players to
be I mean, there's only two quarters.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Clevelands gonna take Clevelands, gonna take your door. A dual
Carter they need a quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
I mean, is a dual Carter is an impacting player,
but he's not a franchise changing player.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
The Browns, Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you're looking
at a guy that can bend the edge. You put
him opposite of a Miles gas Garrett. You see, Philly,
what they were able to do with the pass rush
to disrupt Patrick Mahoons and the Super Bowl. Uh, so
I'm saying they're gonna take. They're gonna take. They're not
taking a quarterback at that spot, so they're gonna probably

(01:03:43):
take your door. Excuse me, They're probably gonna take trav
Or Carter. Let's just say for the sake of argument,
they take uh Hunter. Right, they be on the market
for a quarterback. They did sign Flac. Oh, yeah, so
that might been.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Damn sure. I'm trying to think. I don't like a Flacco.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
Flaco plays so well in that offense and look completely
different from DeShawn. DeShawn not going to be back and
healthy for a while. I'm assuming at the start of
the season he won't be available and I don't see
black of the security blanket. I'm assuming based on this
familiarity with the system. Because the thing is Joe he

(01:04:39):
tore and then he retore it. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
I hate that, But I mean, you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Said he was healthy. You know, people underestimating me. He
can't wait to get back. So we're gonna see. Yeah,
we're going to see.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
I'm hoping he listen, listened. Deshaun said he's gonna be
back better than ever. I'm expecting to be back better
than ever. Obviously, I'm trying. I'm trying to think a
situation where could cousins go. What if they cut him,
a trade him, cut him. Ain't nobody gonna trade for
it man picking up that salary.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
I can't go to the Raiders, they got Geno, right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I can't go to anywhere in the NFC South because
they are stacked up at quarterback. Let's see the a
f C West. You're not going to Kansas City, You're
not going to Denver, You're not going to the Chargers.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Boom.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Okay, let's try the AFC East. Okay, it's just got
justin fields. You know, they got they get. They sit
in Buffalo, they sat in Miami, they sat New England.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
So that's out. What about the AFC South. What about
AFC North. There's one team in AFC North that doesn't
have a quarterback? I said, yeah, Cleveland, Sayland, Cleveland, Pittsburgh,
you know number eight want to play around.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Around? No, Well, you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Never say never, because he Rogers hadn't committed to anybody,
so that's a possibility that he could end up there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
I like that, you know, Aaron you want to play around.
And one thing we do know about that, God Damn
Kirk Cousins, he gonna let that ball go. He gonna
sling it. You gott DK, You got George. I'm not
sure what the offense will look like. I'm sure the
offense has to change a little bit. I'm not sure
who the running back is for the Steelers right now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Jalen Warren, Okay, he's not going. He's not going.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
He's not going to Tennessee. They're gonna take cam Ward
and they still got Will Levis.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
They brought in something. They brought in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
They brought in Daniel Jones to challenge Richardson. That's not happening.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
No, what is? What about a backup to Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
That'd be a good one, and also not only a backup,
someone that can push pushing, challenge, challenge Trevor Lawrence as well,
Not that it would really happen because they just paid
him all that money, but still just having that veteran
presence in the locker room with you, I think would
be dope for Trevor Lawrence and his growth.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
The Browns and the Giants are building trade cars for
picks two and three. Brown's picked two, Giants picked three.
I think both teams realize there's not a player in
the draft that's gonna change there, that's going to change
their life. Right, But if I could trade that pick
and get more picks, maybe would you think.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
You like it?

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
No? No, absolutely not. Why are you trade? Why are
you trading out of it and you know what you
need already? Why are you trading out of a pick
and you know what you need, You're not getting it
in later rounds? Why are you going backwards?

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
I guess that's I guess they're saying that they they
get multi get get have capital, get more. So instead
of having a third pick, maybe we trade you got
everybody have. Everybody has the first round pick this year.
So now I trade back, and now maybe I get
an extra second, I get an extra third.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
No man, no, no, you're struggling.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
You're struggling in certain areas and the areas you're struggling,
and you know you you know what you need.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
Do you know what you need? Get what you need
and stop playing test it. You got, you got, you got,
cam is going to Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
You have to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
That's going to be available forget all that stuff everybody
talk about. You watched it, you turn, you watched the film.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
You've seen what you've seen.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
What he can do. He did it in high school.
He did it at Jackson State, he did it at Colorado.
There's some other quarterbacks that are supposed to go in
the second round. There might be a surprise if these
these these punnis and these analysts and gins and scouts
really don't like to do it because of the way
he carries himself.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
You know, you have you have dark you have some
other quarterbacks that depend the humble myself. Yeah, you listen,
I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
I wouldn't either.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
What you see if what you get, bro, I did
the job. Yeah, I did the job. I mean that
robed people. That probably rub people. But time, but time
is who he is, who he is longer. It's not
destructive to the team. What's the issue?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Man? Why y'all want to why y'all want the man
to think less of himself? The man confident? But that
is that he was confident, he is still that in him.
We don't we don't bow down, we don't hold our
head just because you don't feel this way about yourself,
so you're not You want me to make me feel
good about yourself by lord myself, by.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Hanging my head, not being confident.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
You don't want me to be confidence because they give
you the competent to make you think that we're on
the same level.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
It makes you, It makes you uncomfortable. It makes you uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
I don't know, ojo, what can I get for two pigs?
Two or three? Ojo? What can I get? Can you get? Listen?
You can get. Let me ask you a question. How
high is somebody coming up?

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Because if you come up high enough, you come up
more than five four places, I'm getting your first round
the next year.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Oh yeah, most definitely.

Speaker 5 (01:10:16):
Hell, if you're coming up that high, you might get
two first rounds, or you go you get it first
and the second we switch.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
We tate that. That's my point. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
So, but do you do you believe there's one player
in this draft that is go go at second, that's
gonna go at third, that's gonna be life changing.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
Travis Center life changing. Well, if you believe it's gonna
be life changing, you stay upad you take it. That's
why that's why I think I think it's all bluffing.
The Cleveland Browns and the Giants talk about all these
picks and trading call accepting calls. Ya, they're bluffing. They bluffing,
they bluffing, definitely bluffing the volume
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