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the media for three games after he screwed up the
Wolves after the Lee gave him a warning. This is
not how This is how he reacted after the Nuggets
lost to the Pacers last night.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Let's take a.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Look in the penis right now and get right from
the end of the regular season.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I'm not sure can be honest. Your coach just mentioned
the urgency of a situation I'm trying to avoid play
in right now. Do you feel like this and there's
oh no, man, you know, I'm not sure you will.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Maybe both Sauce Michaels called this team one the most
Brazilian this season.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You obviously are able to draw from so many experiences.
What can you kind of try to draw from to
help with teasing the situation? Oh, I'll have to answer
for a but I wish I did force you. You
know what's frustrating the most right now?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, where's the can figure something out in the next
three games and you know, be on the right path
in the most season?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Was I I can't speak to everybody in the locker room,
but you know my head stays sign getting ready for Wednesday.
Mm hmm. You're like answers. Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question, and this is this
is you've been in the locker room, but I in
the locker room.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
We've had some great wins, we've had some terrible losses.
Had they won these games? Is he behaving in this manner?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Probably not.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Your answer is always different when you're on a high
and you won a game. You know that now most
of the time as a player, as a competitor, especially
Russell Westbrook, you know how you carried yourself. You carry
everything on the shoulders, very passionate, very enthusiast, very enthusiastic.
By the way he plays, you know, when things aren't
going well, he wears that on the shoulders.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
You know that, why did they go? Well? Who missed
that layup? Who turned the ball over? Right now? He did?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm going three games without talking to the media. You
know that's about That's a party obligation. That's in the
same that's a part of the obligation. That's why you
make the big clucks. And now when things go bad,
you don't want to talk. But when even getting those
triple doubles, you couldn't beat them to the microphone.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's the song you see, Ojoe. I tell people this
all the time. What you do.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Is your profession. A profession A profession that's a professional.
A pro is how you go about doing your job.
They're entirely two different things, and sometimes people confuse the two.
You can be a professional without being a prone, and
you can be a pro without being a professional. One
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thing I prided myself I hated to lose, Joe. I
did when I was growing up. I would cry, I
would kick things, to tell things, and my greatest say,
I'm gonna tell you yes, because you're not gonna win
everything in life and.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You're not gonna be doing this. I just don't.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
That's just Hey, I got a question and then you
know me not I mean, you know what you know
west Westbrook rail where I Westbrook Brenever, I don't know.
I just know from Okay, Okay, that's my homeboy, a
very good friend of mine. But the games where he
didn't speak, the games where where they have been may
have been caused by him and his ares of what manic,
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yeah do you do you fall them for not talking
to the media. Without without having would not have having
a cool down and having a chance of saying the
wrong things.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yes, okay, you go three games?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, so le metric So so now just asking I
just want to ask you a question asking No, it's
seem so everybody else NICOLEA. Yokis had to stand up
there and take fork even though he had that sixty
one point trip. He had to stand there and face
the music. Everybody else has to stand and face the music.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You see.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I'm big on counter I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I just
have to be mad enough to come stand before you
the games together. I was wrong, I was wrong. I
made a mistake. I've got to be better. I'm not perfect.
I like that, but my goal is to hopefully one
day that to show you that this is not who
I am, no matter what it is, Joe, no matter
what it is. Because I've been in a situation where
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I lost. Like I said, I dropped the touchdown. It
would have given us home fielding martages throughout the playoffs.
You go stab before the music because I believe Sunshine
is gonna follow brain. I'm not gonna drop me any more.
But if I do, I'm gonna be mad enough to
stand before you and say, hey, I dropped it. This
was on meet John threw a perfect pass. Everybody did
everything right. All I had to do was my job
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in that situation. I fail, sir, this. Don't put it
on anybody else. Don't talk about it's no team. Yes,
it's a team, but that play. They trusted me in
that moment, and I let fifty three guys down, and
I let everybody in the stadium, and I let every
Bronco Faan die.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's on me.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I gotta wear that, and I don't just wear it
for tonight. I wear it for the rest of my life.
That's live.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Now, listen, listen, now, that's live.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
But you do have to understand everybody down conduct themselves
that kind of professional matter that's that's but see what
you did.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But that's a good one. That was good about We
just talked about this last night. What do we want
women to do except what accountability? They ain't gonna never
do that. But I hear you, I hear you talking.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You can't ask them to accept accountability if you're not
willing to accept accountability.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
That is this that that's dope. You could never ask
more than you will say that. It's two different sides
of the inspection. But I like when you're going with
it because I'm picking up what you're putting down. Though,
I tell you that that's a good one. Accountability, accountability, Yes,
you have to be you have to hold yourself accountable.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
We're not perfect.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The hardest thing for me to learn is my sister say, Shannon,
as much as you try to be perfect, you're not
going to be.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
You do all this stuff and you want but Sheddon,
you're a human and a lot of times humans have
frail tis, we have vices. You're on it and you
try to move forward. I just don't like this. I
don't like this. Russe is too good of a player.
He's been a good player for a long time. He's
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not the same player that he once was. But he's
a he's a a.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
He's a good player in his situation that he's in.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's not like this is the first time that Russe
has had a snap boot that potentially that didn't help
his team win.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It happens.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
And listen, he's had many times that he's had he
has helped his team win, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Just so happen to be on the others. So happened
to be on the other side of the story right now,
and he play.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Look think about it, Peyton, Tom, everybody, all the great
Michael lebron Kobe, Everybody's had moments like mad. If you
play long, if you played long enough, you are going
to have moments like what he has. I don't I
don't think any less of Russ because I mean, look,
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he missed the layup. He not the first professional after
the first professional Hall of Fame MVP player to miss
that lay up, Patrick ew And missed one in the playoffs,
y'all remember against the Pacers. Point blank he got caught
in between Dunk and the dwarf and he hit it
full hit the back of the iron.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Happens.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Play long enough, if you play a sport long enough,
you're gonna have something.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, you will have.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
If you play baseball, you're gonna miss You're gonna missile
pop fly ball. We're gonna have an era and lead
the runs. It happens, it's a part of but I
just wish in that situation that wouldn't have happened. But
it is hopefully, uh hopefully it's something that he can
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learn from. I'm in a move forward and play well
in the playoffs and all this thing will be a.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Thing of the past.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Winning cures all k martin the Yukon Lady The Lady
Huskys topped the Lady Game Carts from South Carolina to
record their twelfth straight I mean, excuse me, the twelfth
overall NCAA titles. Paige Beckers exit on top all season
as a Fudd, Sarah Strong Page Beckers was too much
as all three made the All Tournament team. Fudd had
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twenty four points to leave Yukon and was named most
Outstanding Player.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I knew this game was over when when Paige Beckers
had three points and it was already up twelve, I said,
well it's over.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, she ain't even really doing a whole lot in
the game is already over k Mart Heyn it was Hella,
but performance by them, especially defensively.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Man, you look at that box score. Yeah for South
Carolina like yo, like.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
The fine time not to be able to make shots
and the way you gonna play, man, shout out to
Yukon age going out on top. You can't with all
the hype, man, you don't think that it's going to
end this way coming off of what happened transpired last
year with Kaitlyn Park with all the hype she had
going into the game and a tournament and playing the
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way she did, and being able to piggyback on that
success for women's basketball with another dominant performance by another
another person that's she's almost as famous as.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Caitlan almost, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
So to have someone piggyback on that success and to
win it and shout out to her, Shout out to Yukon,
shout out to the women's game.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
And no one saw this coming, but but Yukon, I'm assuming.
I think the thing is.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Kmart is that people don't realize as a true freshman.
Paige Becker's with the Player of the Year, the injury
rob her.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
She was in that class.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Her It was a Caitlin Clark, it was a Angel
Reese was Cardoza. They was all in the twenty twenty class.
Paige got hurt, see what she did. But people don't
realize how great Paige Becker's was brought to these injuries now.
I think in order for her for her to go, like, hey,
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when Rebecca Lobo and Sue Bird and Tarassei and my
Moore and Stewie with all those in the featial car,
when all of those are sitting at the table, page
Becker's get to pull a put chair now, because that
was the only thing that was missing on her resume.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
K mark. She had been a player of the Year.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
She had gone to the final fourth the thing that
will Yukon in order to be in that that group
they hang banners. They hang banners. That's what them great
players do. Started with Rebecca Lobo group, and then Sue
Bird and Tarassei and Tina Charles and Maya Moore and
two weeks and all of them.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
You gotta hang banners. I've got it now, chair up, yeah,
you pull it up ahead?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Hey, hey, I mean, you know, congratulating to Yukon and
what they've been able to do. Gino winning his what
what was this for him?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Twelfth?
Speaker 5 (14:16):
His twelfth championship? But for the lady game Cocks, what
is Don What does Don Stanley need to do it?
What does she need to come inside that room to
get back to they get back to the top, you know,
scoring better players.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, shoot, are you gonna get every You're gonna get
that his best shot man. Listen, one, you got all
of them all Americans. Man, They're just like Yukon used
to be. Tennessee was the haunted forever, right, usc was
the haunted. Yukon was the haunted. Now South Carolina is
the haunted all right, the people you're gonna get them
school's best shot every time you play, right, guess it's
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bulletin board material. It's they got all these all Americans.
They got all the McDonald's. They've been doing this, they
do this, They got commercials, they dad, they they you
getting here at all this needing up to this game,
and they just added fuel to this fire that you
already got burning. You want to go out and compete,
so you don't get the best shot man, like whatever
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she do. I'm pretty sure they're gonna go back to
the drawing board. Yeah, and they still hung. The team
still in still in dynasty. They still But if you but.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
If you think about South Carolina, they got no star,
they got no dominant player, and they made it to
the championship game. You look at Sarah Strong is a
true freshman. He gave it twenty four, twenty four and fifteen,
has a fun. Wasn't all America. She's coming back. Page
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Beckers was once college player of the Year. She was
there for you got three big guns. Look at Carolina Carolina.
Carolina had one player in double fix, two players in
double three off the bench with team off the bench.
Your starters gave you seventeen nineteen twenty one. Your starters
gave you twenty four points on your total your start.
Sarah Strong outscored the started by himself. She had twenty
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four having fun, she had twenty four. Paige Becker's had
a last night shooting the basketball five or fourteen. She
had seventeen points. You're not going to win if one
started for the opposing team. I scored your entire starting lineup,
You're not gonna win. The game is gonna be lopsided
like it was. And my sister, My sister. Look, my
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brother went to Carolina, so obviously we root for all
faith Carolina. I told my sister, I said, Livia.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
They went to a game.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
They went to South Carolina, stopped their seventy one game
win streak by damn near thirty.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You think he gonna beat this team on a neutral site, right,
no chance? Zero? Well, I got one word for you.
Who are they portal? Oh dog, gotta go to the portal,
hey man. One thing that portal real?
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Right now, jack Hey, I'm sure I know, I know,
I know, I know they got I know they got
the booses. Now, I know they got the booses down
there in South Carolina. They gonna they can go get
whoever they.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Want, totally. Hey, they gonna bring that. They go back there,
bring the truck up to somebody. Then you got you
gotta you gotta pay, You gotta pay to play. You
gotta pay to play these days, Jacky, That's what nig say.
Hey man, listen, these kids can go wherever they ain't
hold on now. It ain't just about football no more. Yeah,
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I'm out compete, don Statey.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Don Staley closed out a final presser baking the local media.
You guys know our team. You're pretty fair with how
you assess our basketball team. If every program had this,
we could push push women's basketball forward on a local
level across the country. You see the difference with her
team lost, she did snap at no reporters with this
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good or bad.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
She didn't do that. You know what class personified. You
have to have the same level. You gotta win with dignity,
you lose with the same.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Your same purpose. Absolutely, it ain't no oh oh, how
many final porms did you been to? Did your team
make it this far?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
There was none of that. Yeah, man, you see the difference.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, we've been here before. You can't get her again.
And we've been here before and we're gonna get her again. Yeah,
but don you you will have to She's gonna have
to go. Uh uh, she's gonna have to go. She's
gonna have to go in that portal and get some
big guns. And I don't know what's out there.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Maybe maybe they could get a put a three million
dollar package to go get Juju.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Talk little more name, hold on three three million, gonna
take a little more nada. Hey, the pride Juju from
USC gonna be like ten if finna say ten to tea,
I got five.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I here, Hey, hey don say hey dog gonna push
back down? Say hell, I don't make the three and
a half. How you gonna pay about what.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You paying me? Hey, I'm putting the hey juju putting
the asses mc.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yes, Houston shocked the world last night, went on a
nine oh run in the final thirty five seconds of
the ball game to win seventy to sixty seven kmart
Is this the greatest Final four tournament comeback that you
can NCAA history.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
For that amount of time. It's up there, man, it
is up there like theim boys. Man, listen, and that's
the that's the beauty of having older guys. Noah, right,
everybody want these nineteen year old phenoms. They're great, cool,
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but when you don't get rattled and you've been there
and you've been battle tested, and yo, man, that was
a that was a pretty That was a great basketball game.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Very good game.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
That was That was the really really, really really good
basketball game. Well coached guys played. They tail off, man,
so that I was excited too.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Then for that one o jo Yeah, with the minute
twenty seven seconds left they up seven, man, I put
to the TV. I said, man, damn dude, gonna win
this thing again. I know my homeboy gonna call me
and start effing with me. I said, man, should have
got this, and so I let like like twenty minutes
go by.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah. Then I go to my phone ESPN.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Although I was on on A I G and I
see the uh the the get out face the guy
got the He was like, I'm like, what what are
they talking about?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And then I read uh the cool stun of the
Blue Devils.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I said, Oh, I say, ain't no way, somebody. I said,
then there ain't no way. Man. I got the TV
on and I see everybody just like going crazy, say
what the hell happened? I got to rewind to go
back and see what happened? You got no inbound players.
I'd be damn o k bo listen.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Old brown Eye got tight, very tight.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
And I know a lot of people lost money yesterday
because I didn't everything everybody better on du to win
that game.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yes, hey, you don't remind me of Kmart. You remember
this game when regimenter shot the knicks, you may hit
that three. He stole the ball. The Shoeston guy got
the ball in red right behind the three point n
let it fly and bail And I was like, oh
my goodness, I'm watching this.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I'm like, oh my god, no time.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Man, Like just couldn't get the ball up, possession off
the possession. Hey, they just kept the pressure on, man,
and they did. Listen, they warmed down and.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Be in the game.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Man, and they was like, they get it to this point,
it can be interested if they keep it right here,
it could be it could be this they did, and yo,
I thought, I thought that house in the right time.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, I thought also a time, my kmart. You remember
in the first half when Duke had that big lead
and Houston hit three threes in a row to close out,
to close out the first half. Okay, they stretch out
to a big lead again, and here comes what you
call a clawing back. I was like, damn, y'all. But
then when it got a minute twenty seven sixty four
fifty seven, I said, man, y'all infit the do I said, y'all.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I said, y'all had a great run, Houston, I cut
it off.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
And see the thing about like that's that minute and
a half is an eternity in college basketball as long.
All right, it's an eternity.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
And when when you guys them freshmen.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
So you got a lot of young guys on, you
got some incoming freshman, you have freshman, you got some mintioned,
some bowlder guys.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Them dudes ain't been in the pressure situations right, just
having have to show up when the stakes are that
high and shout after the man.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Listen to Houston and older dudes man number twenty two,
twenty three, twenty four year old dudes back.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
That's the thing because you look at when you look
at look at dude, look at all the number one
overall draft picks that they have and didn't win the
national championship.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It started with Elton Brand. You remember in ninety nine
they lost the Yukon.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I think they had like four first round picks that year,
but Elton Brand was number one, Kyrie witting number one,
Zion with number one, Uh Ben Carroll with number one,
flag gonna go number one if they.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Huh Marvin Bagler right here.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Half you think about it, y'all with number one, I
think r J went number three and umber more are
cam reddis And you look at.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Kyrie whit number one. I think Kylerie and them got
bounced in the second round.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So it's like and I was coach, Greenberg says, yes,
when you bring all it, it's nice because all these
McDonald's all Americans. You got one number one player, the
number three player, the number five player, the number ten player,
the number twelve player in an incoming class, everybody have
been the man on their squad. How do we get
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these guys to share, to realize in order for us
to get where we want to go, you're not gonna
be able to be the man no more. How we
saw that also with Kentucky. Look at Kentucky with all
the time they had the John Walls and the Boogie
Cousins and the Devin Bookers and the Shae Gilders and
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the Tyler he Rose and the Carl Anthony Towns. Look
at all those guys that they've had and didn't win
the championship. If you want super Bowl huh, yes.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Saying winning is a learned behavior, man, Like you're not
just showing up as a wrestland or as a rookie
learning how to win when guys have been practicing this,
have been working at this for years, like you now
just finished show up and being on campus for eight
months you find to learn the totality of this game.
(25:14):
You you come to college as this phenom, but you're incomplete,
like your game and your knowledge for what you're trying
to be is incomplete, right, So you and you only
on campus for eight months and then you're moving on,
so you're.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Not really learning everything you need to learn.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And then you getting these prench situations at the end
of the year where you, like you said, you've been
the man, so that's all you know. When it gets
when when the game get on the line, it gets tough,
all you.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Think to do is to put on your cake. Yes,
like I'm gonna put on my Superman clip. This is
my time now, right.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
So and if you got five four or five guys
that used to putting on that cake, then you have
these results. So my thing is the older guys, man,
guys that's been coached and bred and been cussed out
and been had to get on the line for three
years and then been did this and then then didn't
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have to run because they didn't go to class and
all that.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You ain't fit out, miss them dudes home and they
won't it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I was listening to Kat excuse me at man talking
about when they got behind Serbia and they was down
like thirteen in the fourth quarter. He says, Normally, when
when I get into a situation like that, I'm putting
that KPE on. I'm going I'm going, hey, take this
thing over, he said. But I watched Steph, I watched KD.
I watched Lebron swing the ball, dribble kick, and it
(26:41):
was like and the next thing, you know, and when
KD hit that three point who with that book? I
think it would either book of KD hit a three
point shot and they got fired with a fourth pointer KDC.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, I knew it was over from that point on.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And see the thing else because you got to realize
now the other guys you going in too, going to
get They had KPS do new guys to Houston. Kate
Martin said, they're older guys, oh Joe. They got the
mild test average about five. The fastest guy ran the
mile in like five ten. The floors ran like five
forty six. They average about five nineteen. To put that
(27:17):
kind of pressure on, you've gotta have a tremendous amount
of lung capacity because they're pressuring you ninety four feet
every time you touch the ball. Yeah, every time you
touch the ball, and to keep that kind of relentless
pressure on, kind of like Nola Richard and used to
have the forty minutes of hell. Kmark Old, I'm gonna,
(27:37):
we're gonna, We're gonna wear you down. Now, Hey, you
might get off, but hey, the last three minutes of
the ball game when you gotta think and you gotta execute.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, you got you gotta deal with that. You got
to get on meble pressed, baby, and on the meble press.
They used to know your man's battle testing.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah, you got Florida, you got Houston. Who you like,
Kate Martin? Why I'm going with through Texas boards? Man,
you're going all even?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Ask you all you if they have four player like, hey,
over Florida, he from Dallas, he can.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
From Oak Cliff, from America. Baby, I'm talking about all right.
I'm gona let let me. You want you want to
put something on it again? Like I said, make it
light on yourself. Do listen. I don't turn down nothing
from my collar. They listen, man, you you it can
be a dinner. I gotta see you smoke stogs that
you get this wait were smoking? Whatever? You listening?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Whatever you want to do, you make it light on yourself. Brother,
name you name your stoke here, so what it is?
You name your store? Gout name min you win, you
name your stove?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Right, okay, okay, mine, Okay, Well listen, make that the
jams doing. I like Essen, George set seventy games, lunatic.
What you got?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Oh, I'm going all there and listen, you're gonna have
to go to the bank. Mind, trust me, it ain't
gonna be gonna go so. Oh you're gonna go searching.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Oh you're trying. Oh you're trying to get hockey with
the bet. That's what you want to do. It's a bet, right, Yeah,
I said, said, name yours? You named George. I'mna name
my hold on. I don't have to go to the
bank to get nothing by no cigar because I got
access to that. So that's easy for me. I get
them for free, no matter what you're getting my bad player, Yeah, yeah,
get I'm gonna let you out my bad killer. See.
(29:37):
I tried to keep it simple and just name one cigar.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
I just want I want about about ten ten lunatic,
seventy gauges and I was gonna call it a rat
but you're trying to get spicy.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
We could do that too. If you want to do
get into some gangsters. Yeah, just wait, you want to
do it, yad?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Well, if I bet, I want my cigarette, hey, I
want somebody to go play the start in Cuba.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Watch it growth harvested from so real.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I smote the cigars. I will let y'all have that one.
So the bet, Oh Joe, you won't. You want ten
seventy games lunatic, I'm said, listen, I just want ten
seventy gauge lunatics or you know what. Matter of fact,
I want ten seventy gay lunatics.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Right, yeah, listen to me now, and I want ten
Daniel Marshall twenty four Carrot Goal cigars.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I will will make the same bet then, same rell,
same bet.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Okay, okay, matter of fact, you smoke, you smoke that
Danie Marshall, that twenty four Carrogs Gold cigars.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Mea but I haven't had it, but you named it
the same bet. That is a chat, a chat. Do
me a favor in the chat.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Tell Kate Mark how much that Daniel Marshall twenty four
Carrotgate twenty four Carrot Gold cigar.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Hey, Mark don't seem to concern itself with that cause here, hey,
I would I would hold hey, all listen, when when? When?
And if I crossed that bridge? When we get too oh, listen,
I already know. I'm already gonna win. I'm already.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
You might just put all in now, I'm going to
them old heads. Man, all right, I'm going with them
old heads. Many shut up a man, they right down
the road. Heyo, do you know what this competitive?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Alamo? Do you know how many people from the beating
come down our ten?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Man?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Right?
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Hold on, hold on on thirty you know Santa broll
these think Florida on traffic weal, you know, think the people,
the people from games.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
They can't dry that. Listen, man, they're gonna have to
call these cigars cost three hundred dollars cigar. Yeah yeah,
hell no he he he that all gold thing look
good too. Now he's gonna listen. Yo, I want I
want ten of them.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
I want ten of p ol box mad my man
holds eleven okay, my math work oyl okay, I'm just
making sure well manirl all right, no pressure, listen, man, man.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It's gonna be so much.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Coogle red and that joint, man, Hey, that on show
on everybody else leaving Listen, they gotta scalp of them tickets.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
All everybody else fans, they leave it so they gonna
sell their tickets.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
They both to the final game, right, all them Houston
fans that couldn't listen, that couldn't get them on ticket
maths and people driving.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Hey, they getting them things right now for two listen
for pennies on the dock.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Hey, k Mart, I'm I'm gonna throwing five when you win,
go get my money to while you had it. I'm
throwing five of them cigars.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
But damn, hold on, man, I ain't gonna side back.
Ain't no side it between me and him. Dog dog,
I'm stand what he wins.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I'm gonna give him extra five so he gonna get
my money while he had it, while he died there,
he gonna get my money.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
No, no, no, no, I'm I'm gonna male it. I'm
not gonna see him in person. I'm gonna just mail it.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
No, don't know, man, Hey, them Texas boys, man, the
boys all yes see, how do.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I ask you? Because I should have known all faith,
all faith, Texas all things. Because he loved of science. Cowboy.
I told you talking about time, my time, my time
to you like the Cowboys show. I'm bred in it. Oh, Joe,
I'm not. I'm not one of them dudes that's from
somewhere else. Listen.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
He just he's just going for team just because he's
from the place and not not being realistic about the
chances at the game.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Oh No, I am really no one thing about me
about this team. No, you gotta listen to what I'm
realistic about it.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Trust me. No, I'm not one of them them every
year Lakers fans every year Cab and we got. I'm
not I'm not one of them dogs. Trust me. Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
We we hired seat and him as a coach. Okay,
I'm trust me when we we could. Hey, the man
in the man out in d C was excellent. Fus
got the way he should not have been our head coach.
How about you go, Kellen Moore? You want somebody that
don't get me started with these dudes. Man, just because
I'm I was in Do you know I've been out
(34:12):
high school a long time. See all that is great.
I got high school a long time. This last time
they went to the Super Bowl, I skipped high school
and went to the And I skipped school and went
to the Super Bowl parade dog for real And yes,
that had to sit out the first half of the
basketball game because they were looking for us. So no,
(34:34):
I don't, I ain't rolling man like I'm I got
ja time CD fan bro. But Michael Parson, I'm I'm
on the fence about Dad, I don't know about it.
I called him da colda until he do something, his
name da coolda, Ray, I don't call it. You don't
get your names with me if you don't, if you
don't get it done, man like dudes on the show.
(34:55):
So so we had to kick another team this show.
I was going for Lebard and the Raids man like so.
I I was off to day with this way way back.
And when they first started training camp, I'm gonna tell
you straight up right, they ain't did nothing significant.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
When they didn't signed Derick Henry last year, I was
off of him. I ain't gonna eat. But listen your
honor place in Dallas. U uh train he traded Dallas, And.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I know that I know the guy he trained with
my mind like Mailvin Sanders, that Sanders fit the way
you work out that I was Male's first client. I
know Mail, well, Mail was with me and them were
trying to so I know these dudes. Well Mail was
trying to be off rut like man, he trying to bed.
I'm like, man, what's up with it?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
To her Yawna Yanna said he couldn't afford him.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Man, then you go back and bring Zeke Man, Are
you like, come on, man, let's not let's let's not
do this, man, because trust me, they could have threw
won us back there man and got more production.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
By I got artificial hire. I can't take no more
here up. Kate Bart, big old. You know what.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Steve Kerr called Nicola Jokic the best center he's ever seen.
Kareem couldn't do all this stuff. Jokic is the best
center I've ever seen. I played against Kareem. Kareem couldn't
do all this stuff. We're watching a guy who's doing
things nobody's ever done before. It goes so far well
beyond the skill with yok it's the competitiveness, it's his intelligence.
(36:32):
He's absolutely one of the smartest players ever and you
see it in so many different ways. Kmart somebody was
saying hold on, I forget who it was, but they
said he wasn't a top twenty player. Yet, where do
you have Nicola Yokic rain because he top twenty? For me,
if he ain't top twenty, doing away with the whole
(36:53):
whoever in the top twenty, I'm throwing everybody out. If
Nicola Jokic I'm talking about right now, if he's not
top twenty, I don't know what the hell were talking about, right,
I want them to the name.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Hold on before the answer came out, hold on, uh,
top twenty all time.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
All time, all time, all time in the history, in
the seventy eight year history of the NBA.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
He no, Holy Yokis is.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
The top twenty playoffs as we sit here, He's still
playing uncle, so is Lebron.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
So is Lebron and Steph Curry go ahead, come answer.
I'm just curious. I don't dudes. You can't, yo, man.
You can't talk about the story of the game within
the last and not mention him. Just can't.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
So if you talk about it, so if we do
it by positions, right, we can give you by position, yes, sir,
you go will just not team performance.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You're talking about individual dominant performance.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Not you go, will you go hiking, you go, shack,
He's next in line, man, you takeing him over, kaream,
I forgot about cat back.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
He's fit.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
He's the fifth best center of all time right now,
just from the three MVPs.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
What are hes doing to go after triple double? All
this intentional to win another one?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
He's gonna win another MVP, you know, maybe two before
he's done, maybe another championship.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
This puts him, yeah, top five center of all time
right now. Man, so you you you some of these
other guys, man you yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
If he's not twenty, if he's not top twenty twenty one,
if you have not top twenty, he.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Twenty one, all right, I like it, Like, hey, top
twenty five.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Like if you want to take five guards, five five
point guards, five shooting guards, five small for five pound fourth,
five centers, right, top twenty five basket NBA players of
all time, he's top twenty's. He's the fifth best center
of all time. So I will I will put him
at right now, he's still playing. I'll put him at shit.
(39:08):
He's he's as good as I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I think the thing where people knock him is because
of his deep because all the guys that you mentioned
play deep. All the guys that you mentioned had had
made at least one some multiple right, all defensive teams
out They didn't have that. They didn't have all defensive
team when Wilt Chamberlain. Because Will had a game where
he had twenty four blocks. So we I mean his numbers,
(39:34):
I mean we got to do something. We just gotta
sit at Will the side. So one hundred and fifty
point fifty point games, ain't nobody ever touching that. You're
never going to do that. Nobody's go average average once
the game for a season. What what a what a
footage that of Will's hundred point game? You seen the footage?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
There ain't no footage, you just got the box score. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
So so so if you looked at yeah, I'm with you.
So that's just so the hunt paying the twenty thousand
women and all of them. Now he say, hey, the
twenty thousand was to sell that book. Yeah, absolutely damn sure, sale.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
So my thing about Nicola, right, it's not the defensive end.
It's the top three in steels, right, But that's one thing.
But if you look at it, uncles and oaks, look at.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
When the games are on the line, right, like the
other day that.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
That that Minnesota game the other day, right, Yeah, the
sixty point triple of that game.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Of all the things he was asked to do offensively
that game when the.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
Game was on the line.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Both over times, this, that and the third, watch.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Him move his feet defensively when they ask him to
go out and double Anthony l It's little things like
that that I look at right when the game is
on the line. He can move his feet. He's great,
He's not. I ain't gonna say he's Draymond Green defensive
you want to name is on the line, but no,
you're gonna get an honest effort out of him. He's
(41:05):
gonna implement the game play whatever you tell him to
go out and do with all of the deficiencies that
he has defensively, give me that effort that he that
he displays when it's winning time every time. Yeah, because,
like Steve Hurry said, his competitive nature fixing. You say
(41:25):
he can't do something, I'm gonna try my best. Not
that Anthony Elwoods turned this corner.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Right listen, But this is the funny thing about it. Now.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
As great as he is offensively and what he can
do offensively in the post, mid range from three. He's
a liability on defense. I don't care how hard he tries, no, no,
no it.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
And I'm going up against Joe Ellenbid. He's probably a
lit dealing in the defense. But the question is who
do you have on the offensive end that's gonna punish him?
Like he's gonna punish your guy on the defensive end.
So you so when he has to play defense, who's
the guy that's gonna go at him and put forty
on his head? Like he's gonna put forty on your
(42:06):
guy's head. Hey, he's gonna get worked out. You're gonna
have a double digit assist. So now that's another twenty
to thirty points and he's gonna get I mean, think
about this, he's gonna average a triple double for a
season as a big. He's shooting fifty eight percent from
the floor. He's shooting forty two percent from three saturdays.
(42:30):
Think about, understand somebody that shoots that many shots from
the outside. Talk about a guy that just lays the
ball up and dunks it. Think about how many shots
he takes outside of the paint. And he's shooting down
near fifty eight percent on Joe, that's crazy, bro, and
forty two percent from the three.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
You shoot.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
If you shoot forty percent from the three, you make
a lot of money. Yeah, you shoot ere okay, he
thirty seven percent. If you shoot forty percent, you are.
They look at you as an elite shooter. You shoot
forty two percent, you are.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's what I was in high school.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
League shooting forty forty one, forty two percent three Yes,
And you got a center out here doing it.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
The center John Moran Special Heywood told TMZ that John's
running his career. He said the people that are around
him are not advising him right. He's ruining his career,
he's ruining his family's life, and his team. Most importantly,
he's letting all of them down. So I'm just disappointed
in joh Okay, Mark, you're an elder statesman, you would
(43:38):
you are a voice of reason a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Sometimes you unreasonable in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
But if you have a young guy like Joe Ellissle
talented and he keeps doing this kind of stuff, what
would you say to him? Kmart, Yeah, that's the honest conversation, man,
like you gotta, for one, you gotta have a report
with him outside of basketball ball.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
Yeah, right, that's first and foremost. You got to be
able to relate to him on some level. So once
you have that and you establish that, it's it's being
honest with him.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
But at some point words words are not enough, right
and in.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
This situation, unfortunately, I'm starting to see that words and
certain things don't matter no matter who's in his locker.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Hoom.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
I think that's why they bought Marcus smart ad right
initially to try to be that Marcus Smartest has some hiccups,
he's been feisty, he's been that in the NBA to
try to be that.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
But when.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
When your immediate surroundings and immediate family are not helping
the situation, there's nothing that me as a vet. Can
you say, what's because we are you were saying because
we don't. I only have you for a certain amount
of time during the day. Right, I'm not gonna follow
you home, I'm not gonna hold your head.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
And we don't read it together. We know, so we're
not live in the same contrax. We're not doing these things.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
So I can do everything in my power, but once
you leave and once you're around your guys and your families,
sometimes those people have more influence than the guys who
you should be looking up to, and you should be
looking for that influence.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
And unfortunately in this situation, that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Hey, you know, okay, and uh, And when it comes
to players like this, players of this magnitude, players that
are this good, players like this that have a certain
type of individuals around them. So most of the time
we call them, we call them yes, man, I mean,
let me just say what it is. You've got a
bunch of dudes around you that's not that's not going
to tell you what you want to hear. And uh,
(45:50):
don't nobody want to get their water cut off, as
I call it, you know. So I think somebody has
to be an elder statesman that's part of the NBA
that conducted themselves somewhat in a similar manner that John
looks up to when he when he was younger that played.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Now, maybe they.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
Could get get through to him and get him to
get him to understand, Uh, you know, the NBA is
not against you. You know, there's certain things that you
got in trouble for in the past. So the certain
things you can't do or you can't get away with
based on past behaviors.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
That's all. Yes, other players in the NBA might be.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Doing, you know, the little gestures or whatever, but they
also haven't had issues with doing anything or brandishing weaponry
outside of the game of basketball.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
So it's different. So you held to a different standard.
You've got you got to understand that who the O G?
Who in the streets? That what I say, I would
say a I know it would say, got the O G?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
The real og in the streets in Memphis exactly all
go to John jot this bull job out see, because
we have to be you pretend that this what we do,
this real over here, all this.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
But I'm trying to who is he trying to impress?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Because me personally, I don't think y'all hood, I don't
think Jop bought that life that looks good. I mean
he went it that looked good. I mean the people like,
oh man, y'all not like that. I know people that
aren't like that, that'll lay it down like that.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
But he ain't him. You work your whole.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Kmark you say you're from Old Cliff, you worked your
whole life to get out of that environment. Why would
you get out of that environment and then try to
prove that you're still down.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
No I'm not down. That ain't me.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
We not No, I'm not down. No, No, I left
all that eight the Lord blessed me beyond blessed. He
helped me get out of that situation. And then I'm
still gonna pretend I ain't saying you can't have no
firearm to protect yourself. But it's the people that it's
the people that you don't think the fire better set
fire to you.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
See, the thing is, it's one thing of having. It's
one thing people that wouldn't been using.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
Too totally sept a conversations right, and and the city
that he lives in, they about that thing.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Man, They about it? Yeah, they are, they are. We
all know this man.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
So and I put this so, I said this on
Gils Andrina man and I spoken to said person who
I'm about to mention right now.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Since I've said this, I put a lot of this
on t. Morn.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
I put a lot of this behavior on him. The first, Okay,
you want to let your child go up. Cool, he's
a professional anthelete. Now cool, you want to give him
a little leeway, a little rope to be him, find
himself to do all these things. Yes, absolutely, But when
it's become detrimental to his career and it's brand who
he is, we got to reevaluate some things.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Son We got to go back to the drawing boards.
So we can't do these things.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
Son, I can't be at the game behavior in this way. Son,
I gotta move difference so so we could do so
all of these things. They have to do collectively to
change people images on job, the family, the Grizzlies, all
of them. It has to be a collective, right because
if not, Like we all know, the only thing we
(49:22):
respect as athletes is playing time and money.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah yeah, and these little.
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Snap on the rists and this that and the third
like I tell people all the time, man and God
rest David Stern.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
So if this was David Stern's NBA, yeah, none do
he make an example out of it.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
You're not gonna make a mockery of this, this, this logo,
You're not gonna continue to make a mockery at this.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Even even as great as he is. Man, that man
wasn't don't care.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
You're not bigger than that logo. Man, you're not as
y'all say that sh old right. No one is bigger
than y'all shield right, like David Stern carrying that that
NBA logo the same as the NFL shield. You're not
bigger than that. He would have made an example out
of John either. This man told me the words out
of his David Stern's mouth to my ears son, if
you want to continue to be a part of this NBA,
(50:18):
you would change your ways. And this for me fighting
on the floor. This had nothing about firearms, were getting
in trouble. This is just for me fighting in the floor, right,
and give to me this warning. So what you think
the message would have been for this situation with this kid.
I don't care about your talle level. K.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
You was in the league when everybody had you remember
everybody used to wear the bagging pants and had the
tall tease And David Starr said, y'all gonna clean this issue.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
He said, we got too much money at Steak sponsors
advertise us. This is over.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Dress cod This man put in a dress code nog Yeah,
because dudes, who's coming to the game and throw back
jerseys and wearing throw that goods off the betch you
put it.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Hey, hey, K but I got by seven of back right, come.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
On, man, we got so it's it's lessons need to
be learned in this current situation with dude recently the
whole gun thing. They find you seventy five and you
come back and you post ping Q like, yeah, Kmart, it.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Ain't it ain't enough, man, like you got somebody got
to step in. I hope I hope he. I hope
job figures it out because.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
He doesn't realize how much money he's like actually costing
himself with this.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
I mean, you know, yeah, he has the Nike deal,
but Nike is do not only brand that pays money everybody.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
They have so many other brands that he's missing out on,
so many more, so many opportunities. Yeah, yeah, he a
lot of times, a lot of people thought he could
be the face of the NBA charismatic the way he
can play the game. He's he's he's a small guy,
and the NBA loves small guys. They love guards absolutely
and and he has it. And I just don't know
(52:01):
why he wants to perpetuate this type of behavior. But
to each his own K Mark Banks for joining us, Hey, guys,
everybody do it's a favor. Go follow K Martin or IG.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Camar. What's the IG handle and everything? Keny Martin Senior. Man,
you know what I'm saying. It's Kenyan Martin Senior. Everything.
I g Twitter on Facebook, Kenyan Martin Senor baby.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
Watch hold on before you go right, Ay, Kmar, I'm
gonna throw something else in on that bed.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
There's something else in it. Hey, listen, Lebron James.
Speaker 5 (52:36):
You know when he hit fifty thousand points, he gave
me the ball and the actual ball that went in
when he hit the points if IF.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Houston b Florida. Yeah, I see the ball.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
I promise you put that in there so you already
know how much this shit worth. What you laughing at?
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Look? You know what I want? That gold jacket that
you wrote h O L. Foard that you put on
the sideline. That's the job I want. Not Hey, I'm
still here. I'm looking for it. That's one on one.
I can't find it. I won't be the volume