BONUS EP*More Conversations About Drake's Lawsuit

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Speaker 3 (01:53):
Did you read that lawsuit? I know it was eighty
one thing.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I'm not reading an eighty page lawsuit about Drake's his complaint.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
You know what, it's not really about the complaint. That's
not why I wanted you to read it. I think
see your mind would have been able to see what
I'm saying. So now I'm stuck by myself thinking about it.
What are we talking about here this day? Well, I
thought about it a lot, right, and I'm like, I'm
looking at it and it's most likely not a great

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chance for him to particularly win this lawsuit, right, the
lyrics are really hitting. Well, it's a battle I think
common sense would prevail. But I thought about, like what
happens if he was to win it, Like, how does
the label have to react at that point when it

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comes to lyrics and records?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Do they start to scrub all of the records? You
get what I'm saying. It's almost like this could single
handedly ruin hip hop.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Potentially it does create a civiliability for that. It could
also decentralize it a lot. I don't think that it
And also like even with that, like there's enough precedent
to where the Supreme Court was very generous in its

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assessment of public figures and how you're able to talk
about them satirically or whatever else.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
And I haven't seen a whole lot of viable.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Cases where like where I don't mean just somebody said
some stuff and like nothing happened, or a kind of
thing happened, but where there was actually like a person
that was shot for sure and claimed that, oh, this
is the result of political rhetoric. Steve Scalise comes to mind,

(04:05):
the Lady from Arizona so many years ago. It's not
something I've seen the courts be willing to take up.
I think, if anything, it's a matter of do you
really want to open up discovery into this weird theoretical

(04:28):
manufacturing of consent model that's being used here. This pick
kind of likes to say, oh, you don't really know
what you like. We're picking winners and losers for you
and telling you what you like. Kind of thing which
we throw into credibility. You know a lot of music
stardom to some degree.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, I mean, I think the legal proceedings is one thing.
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Speaker 3 (05:55):
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Speaker 7 (05:56):
Jay?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
What's the deal?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
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making their money. So I ain't got no complaints.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
What was your weekend like mine?

Speaker 6 (06:28):
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Speaker 2 (06:32):
I went to the gym, cook some food.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I just I really spent a lot of time. I
came to the studio every day. One day I didn't
want to come, but I came anyway. But I was
just thinking about this when I was reading that lawsuit.
And again, like I said, it was a It was
a lot of pages. You didn't have to read a

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lot of rhetoric, just simple things. But I just thought about, like, damn,
like even from the beginning of it, how it's framed.
This frame it's framed as to say, like the reason
like violence is happening to him is because of this song.

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And I just thought that was so disingenuous. Like you know,
I spend a lot of time on Twitter. I spent
a lot of time on Twitter just really thinking and
reading you know what I'm saying, Like I I'm always enjoying,

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you know what I mean, different people's thoughts, So a
lot of times I laugh at different thoughts. But just
reading through that lawsuit man, like how it starts, bro,
It's like the craziest thing I ever saw in my
life from a hip hop perspective, you know what I mean,
and rap or anything that has to do with it.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
And it just blew me away. Dog, that somebody could
be that disingenuous.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Like every time I spend like when I go on Twitter,
when I go to these spaces to have conversations, when
I go do podcasts, radio shows, any of that. I'm
always always speaking in good faith. When I talk to
my friends, I always speak in good faith, like I
always conduct myself Like I got some sense and to

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watch somebody say right, to watch somebody say like, oh,
this is why this is happening, Like that's what I
say that if you would have opened it up. The
lawsuit opens up with in the middle of the night.
On May seven, twenty twenty four, and other reviews of slings, Yes,
an our group of assailants drove to Toronto to the

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Toronto house in which Drake and his family resided. Drake
was inside. The car stopped in front of the residents.
Someone yelled, fucked Drake, and at least one gunman began
to open fire. One bullet went through the security gate
and hit Drake's front door. Another bullet struck and wounded
a security guard was also one of Drake's friends.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
While the car drove away, Drake.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
And others in the house someing help for the security
guard and did everything possible to keep him alive. During
the nearly thirty minutes it took for the ambulance to arrive,
Drake and others labored to keep the man alive by
applying pressure to the gunshot.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Wound with tiles. Love was everywhere.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
After the security guard arrived at the hospital, surgeons worked
quickly to remove the bullet stopped the bleeding and saved
his life, though it took days for his condition to stabilize.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Thankfully, the security guard survived.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
The very next day, May twenty twenty four, a different
intruder used his bare hands to dig a hole under
security fence surrounding Drake's Toronto house. He managed to dig
deep enough to squeeze through and enter Drake's property. Fortunately,
Drake's home security guards caught him before he was able

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to cause any physical harm, although the trespasser managed to
yield racist slurs and threats against Drake before being escorted
off the property.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
What were the racist slurs?

Speaker 4 (10:22):
I'm curious, were they sure anti Semitic tropes or were
they anti black racial slurs? And no, I'm fascinated in
part also by the difference between a slur and a
trope depending on the target recipient.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Right then, it says on May ninth, twenty twenty four.
The very next day, another break in attempt happened. In
the two decades leading up to the May of twenty
twenty four, although Drake was constantly in the public eye,
nothing remotely like these events had ever happened to him
or his family. But these events were not coincidental. They

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immediately followed and were approximately caused by UMG's actions leading
up to and on May fourth, twenty twenty four. UMG
is the world's largest music company and also the music
company that has represented Drake for more than a decade.
Yet on May fourth of twenty twenty four, UMG approved

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published and launched a campaign to create a viral hit
out of a rap track, out of a rap track
that falsely accuses Drake of being a pedophile and cost
for violent retribution against him.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
They are saying this song, not like us, caused his
house to be shot up.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
This is why the first question I had for you
when I read the first paragraph.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Wasn't a joke.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
This is I don't see how this doesn't get thrown
out based off of the actions damage has occurred in
the jurisdiction of the Canadian courts.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
He's suing in the US courts.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, minus the possibilities of him winning the lawsuit. Right,
the sheer audacity of this motherfucker to act like.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
This song is why his house got shot up.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
That's crazy. Why do you think.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
We all in the streets know why his house got
shot up. He knows why his house got shot up.
I'm not these other YouTubers or streamers, so I'm not
gonna talk about street business on this thing.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Butte he knows why. He knows why.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
It's like out there, if you look, you could put
it together real fast, right. But it's it's so disingenuous,
you know what I'm saying. It's so disingenuous for him
to act like this song caused that.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Type of confusion.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
And you know, I don't mind going back and forth
with people on Twitter, you know, every now and then,
I'll take my time and really just get into somebody's
you know, debate or conversation. I'll allow that space with them.
You know, I'll have the human experience with most people
as a human. But I whenever I see things that

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are disingenuous, they immediately rub my spirit in a very
awful way. It's in a very awful way, like it
bothers me, Pete in a way that's not normal, you

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know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
So it's like.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
People keep talking about the depth of this lawsuits about
how they marketed this song or they marketed it incorrectly
and illegally, and it's not it's about this song causing
him damage. And he's saying the person who you know,
the company that marketed this song, should have went in
and edited the song.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
That shit is just cowardly, because that shit is just cowardly.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
That's chicken shit from a chicken shit ass motherfucker. You
put out your records, you do all of this shit,
you compete all the shit you've been doing, you feel me,
and then you take a cowards route. I don't know
how any fucking man or any human being reads that.

(14:50):
I don't care who you are a fan of, bro,
I don't care who you're a fan of.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know this is chicken shit, and just reading.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Your dog is like the most saddest, disingenuous, dishonest thing
I've ever saw in mine. I've never saw nothing like this,
not alone in this space that we call hip hop
or even rap music.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
What's your thoughts on people saying.

Speaker 7 (15:22):
That this is this is not him, this is I'm
trying to stick it to the man, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
What's your thoughts on that? Right there?

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Then there's a million reasons to stick it to the man.
Why are you sticking it to the man based off
a song where you're dissing somebody in there dissing you.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, that's a disingenuous take.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Him suing you, Like, do you know the type of
damage that could cause to a hip hop artist like
me or any hip hop artist like to where now
they have to send to everything you're saying not.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Just a battle.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Like if it's possible for somebody to see a record
company because an artist says something about you, why you
feel me? That's permanent damage to this specific thing.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Why would a why would a billion dollar company invest
into somebody that they can get pseudo?

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Mm hmm sure, And it's just it's just punk ass
punk shit.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
This actually is the closest thing I've seen, or not
the close thing I've seen.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
This structurally.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Is the most similar I would I could say in
this regard to when Ozzy Osbourne got sued for liability
on a couple of teenager suicides.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
But they sued him, not the distributor.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
But you're still talking about lyrical influence of audience action.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
In that sense, you know, no.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
What even that's a little different. That's some punk shit too.
But bro, you're suing the record company because they didn't
edit a record where you're competing with another artist in
hip hop.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
Yeah, you said the realist pot though, what they're saying
that this should go open the floodgates up, man.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And why would you invest and why would you invest
in the artistic merits of this culture if you could
be sued for what somebody says artistically?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, what will ultimately happen?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
I would guess with this, like, let's say hypothetically it
really gains a lot of traction, You'll probably see something
happen really shortly thereafter.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
That's very similar to.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
God, I forgot the name of the law, the law
that protects social media companies from anything that's transmitted over
their platform message wise, it kind of holds them not
responsible the same way like AT and T is not
responsible for any phone conversations that happens over the course
of their.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
You know, infrastructure.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
In that sense.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
You got to bring the other up though too, this
shit about the show in Australia.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
So I don't I hope that's not true. I don't
want to believe that because what it might be true. Bro,
it might be true because even for this lawsuit to
be like again, shout out to ALLUZ fans who really
just think this is about Payola, or think this is

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about him trying to get out of a record deal.
You know what I mean, Like I totally get the
gist of it. But bro, you need to read the lawsuit.
You will realize real fast. That's a paragraph. It's not
about people talking about lawyers. Shout out to P.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
He said one that assumes micro management.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
The lawyer's job is to try to win, so they
are going to write everything in a way to show
their client's best case. P. That's disingenuous and it's cowardly,
it's irresponsible.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Like one thing you.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Got might be but it's a fact.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
See who it might be those things, but it is
a fact of how that game works.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
But again, it's not about the game, right. It's like,
I understand how chicken shit you could be to win
a game, but this is supposed to be the ultimate
game of masculinity, and accountability comes in that space, if
that makes sense, Like Pete, Like, it's one thing if
you see somebody because they kick your ass. It's another

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thing if you get into a fight with somebody and
they kick your ass after you hit him and you
saw him, Like, I couldn't really respect a man that
does that.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Sure, I get that.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I could see if it's something that he has nothing
to do with and it's happening to him. So I
don't think this. I hope this is not real, but
this would probably fit. So the security firm that does
all of his security things, and for Australia it's called
CVEM Security Group. It was supposed to be a message

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that lead and it's not a regular message.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
It said.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
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Speaker 2 (22:29):
Drake Legal Fund.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
I'm not a big fan of Australia, so I think
that not like US a US is a great concept
for me.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Bro, this is crazy, man, this seems real.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Bro. I can't be real man.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Doing this whole thing. Bro, I never said nothing bad
about Cuz. Like, I'm getting there, Bro, I'm getting there.
Like I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I can't lie
to getting there. Bro, Like I'm getting there. It's gonna
go bad.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Like, the question is do you have it in you
to do a sequel track entitled Drake Must Die?

Speaker 5 (23:26):
Man?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
It's coming. You know it's funny, Like it's one thing.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
To laugh at it it's one thing to joke, like,
you know, we all joke on Twitter, we all joke
in these social media's, but none of us actually think
dude is touching for your old girls or five year
old girls, like you know what I mean, that's not
the thought, that's not a real thought. So for him
to parade in front of the legal system, like that's
really the thought versus him just being embarrassed, it's.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Crazy unless maybe it.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Is, yes, but it's it's it's just odd to believe
somebody could be that successful though dog and be a
piece of ship, and it's it's just it's just it's
irritating my soul, like expressed to.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
You, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
I mean, I feel like maybe outside of like the
real hip hop world, like actors, a lot of singers,
I mean, these are trite, insecure, low class people. I mean,
like like like the the Barbour Streys had house phenomenon.
Somebody posted a picture of the roof of her house

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on the Internet and she sued everybody in the world
and it and it was like a small amount of
people had seen the picture and then like the firestorm
of media blowback.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
They're not blowback, but just coverage that her.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
You know, shotgun spray of lawsuits as a result of
that led to her house's drone imagery being shown like
a thousand times greater than whatever there wives have been.
They're just like I think a lot of those people
are just kind of like that. Shout out to me
and me Angel, welcome to the lunch table. They got
seen you once or twice. Great point.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
This lawsuit will suppress free speech for artists. It will
set a precedent record, labels will need to vet lyrics
and cover art.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
It's exactly what I've been thinking. What stops all of this?

Speaker 1 (25:36):
And for people that could support it, man, Like, I
don't even know what to think about people who support it,
Like I don't care how much you love one artist, Like,
how could you support that?

Speaker 3 (25:53):
How can you supported.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
I've seen one thing that said that said this battle
now now we have to.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
Now we have the.

Speaker 7 (26:04):
Spot where it's basically hip hop culture versus Drake fans.
You know what I'm saying, because they like the only
ones who's sitting back and fucking and signing with him
when it comes to this ship and fucking find some
type of reason and for for him doing some ship
like that.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
It's crazy though.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
I think, really this is a battle that comes down
to and it's the way it's playing out.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Universal is not.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Being made to look bad on this mm hmm. In
the greater scheme. I think it was probably concocted in
a way. Two there's there's no merit to this. There
really isn't. There's nothing.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I don't I don't think for two seconds he has
a chance to win the case.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, I think it was concocted for a settlement.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
I means, yeah, they're not gonna settle.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
It has done Universal any damage. I think the goal
was we're gonna put this out there. It's gonna do
potential damage Universal. They're gonna run from it and the
bad pr They're gonna settle. But it blew back and
reverse and gave him bad prs. Now they have no
it's set up to settle. It's just gonna get tossed.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
It's funny, man.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I usually pray for most human beings, bro pretty much
all of them. This is the first time where I'm thinking, like, yeah,
whatever happened to him is worthy of happening to him.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Know that sounds crazy, but whatever happens to him is
worthy of happening to him.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
It's cowardly, it's chicken shit.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
It's not about defending his name or his brand, It's
not about none of that. It's a tantrum by somebody
that this motherfucking culture has empowered.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
It's a tantrum alive and it's a bunch of shit.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Like I couldn't when I was talking to Charlemagne and
Van because I'm asking him, I'm like, how could he
be this disconnected? Like how could Couz be this disconnected
to where? It's like, I know what j Prince is saying,
I know what Birdman is saying, I know what they
telling him, I know what they saying, don't do this.

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How could you be this disconnected to where it's like
you could threaten how motherfuckers really do their thing? How
they make it out of their circumstances because you chose
to engage into a battle that somebody got the better
of you on.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
He was never connected in the first place.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
I know I've said it, but it's just like, even
as a man, bro like, I'm not saying the culture
or morality we grow up in, Like I'm not saying that.
I'm telling you, just being a man, it's a standard
piek for you. I don't think you would sue anybody
Pete if you if you got into a fight, you

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start fighting and somebody got the better. I don't think
it's street urban culture that says, hey, you know what
you need to be a man and be accountable for actions.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
But this is the problem with the slippery slope principles
that a lot of people have been complaining about for
twenty thirty years. This is where slim And falls to
Like I personally, I don't believe in the concept of
wrongful termination.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
You didn't start the company. If the company doesn't want you there,
see it.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
I've been wrongfully terminated flagrantly, and I knew its places
are trying to get rid of me for months.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
They finally had the Stells that con cox some scheme
to fire me.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
I said, idiots, you could have just told me to
get the fuck out of here four months ago, and
that's when you wanted me to leave.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
They' I'm gonna sue you over this shit. I didn't
start this thing.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
But you know, when you create an expectation that facilitates
victim compensation, culturally, which is what has happened for a
third of a century a minimum. This is what people think,
I've been wronged. I should be compensated for this, whether

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they've been wronged or whether they just think they took
a loss. Either way on their own books, they think
somebody owes them something. And I'm telling you, if not
a near majority, probably a majority of the country views
the world that way.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I don't agree with it. Thanks the truth.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Good shout out to Earn's Maybe he's trying to get
out of his deal and go independent. If that was
the case, he could just release the last album of
his deal and go independent.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense and move on.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
He has one album left he could have turned into
party album and then went anywhere.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
This is not going to get him out of his deal.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Like, why do you guys keep contriving, Like why are
you contriving this weirdness of an idea.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
That's not how you get out of a deal.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
And he has the money to buy himself out of
the rest of that deal, Go do it, yo, Gotti.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Shit, it's not even that don't make sense, And it's
hard to have this conversation with people not in the
music business, because so much of it is built on fluff.
If that was the case, Cauz could just turn in
the last album and get out of his deal.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
He doesn't owe them a platinum album, he owes them
twelve socks.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
And he has an album on cue. Don't make sense.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
None of the things, none of the things try to
forgive me. None of the things people are talking about
makes sense. None of the things, even the concept of
lowering his value and brand. Your value and brand is
all it's all built on exactly how many albums you
could stream, or how many songs, how many streams you
can get, how great.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Can your records be.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
None of this makes sense because it didn't stop his
last album from streaming. It didn't stop any of these
things happening. So I don't get how anybody, I guess
if you ignorant to how the music business works, you
know what I mean, you wouldn't get it. But being
on the inside of it and being a part of
it for over a decade, like none of it makes sense.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Trapped Yeah, but no, no.

Speaker 7 (32:31):
It makes sense because we don't know Jack what it is.
He can't foolish from what it is. You can say
all that shit right there, you're trying to stop the
super Bowl. Man, he's embarrassed. You know what I'm saying.
It's fucking you started a fight and now you got
your ass. We know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
We all know what it is.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
You know what I'm saying. You can't try to figure
out what I'm saying if he has some other type
of shit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
So that's all it is. Really, You know I was
gonna say, was this is all in his text of
this is? This is where he come from? Though?

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Was you in the that thing when we found out
that the motherfuckers try to suit the fucking TV company?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I told you all read it to you.

Speaker 7 (33:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he tried to be you heard about
that ship, Pete. He tried to sue that he was
on the game.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
So he was a part of the Grassy. It was
about three years ago, four years ago, and the Grassy
executive for it, you know what I'm saying. They reported
on the story three or four years ago. The Grassy
executives came forward and said that Drake was trying to
sue them right because they threatened a lawsuit because he

(33:39):
felt being in a wheelchair. His threat was being in
a wheelchair actually hurt his chances to be successful in
hip hop, and he would pull out of the show
if they didn't get him out of the wheelchair. And
the executives brought him into the office and they talked
to him and they said, hey, man, like, what's the problem.
He said, well, no, we didn't send that, and they're like,

(33:59):
but this came from your representative. He's like, oh, well,
you know, we didn't. He said, well, do you have
a problem with Jimmy being in a wheelchair? And he
kind of said, yeah, I don't. I don't really like that,
Like I don't like that. I don't think it's good
for my brand. And they like, bro, you got shot.
You're in a wheelchair, Like there's nothing more hip hop

(34:20):
than that. And it was crazy to listen to these
executives from this TV show understand exactly how you know
what I'm saying, Like it still kind of carried the
same energy of of you know, overcoming something, and he didn't.
He thought it would be a bad idea.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Yeah, yeah, well that's what It's just a stango. That's
what we do what I was saying.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Then the actor who was in the Wheelchair and Boys
in the Hoods sue John Singleton, though, isn't it just
based off of that?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Finally, I don't know did he? Oh Man, Chris.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
Like, what the fuck? I heard that?

Speaker 5 (35:05):
And that was crazy though, So I just showed me that.
That's that's what he do. He that's that.

Speaker 7 (35:10):
It's the Jewish side of him right there. Man's I
don't get my way, I'm a suit. Yeah, that's that's
what it is.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
That's starting with money side. I mean, like, like, I
come from lawsuit Heaven. It's not just Jewish people doing that.
I don't want to knock Jewish people for that. It's
it's like I told you, like, the worst punch I
ever seen landed in high school in my life resulted
in the sixth figure lawsuit because some dude threw his

(35:38):
books down and stunted at the guy like this, and
the other guy was like ship and clocked him, and
the parents sued the other.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
Six figures.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Jew shout out to the goat, Welcome to the lunch table, Brody,
I never saw you. Welcome.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
UMG about to block everything he does, he might not
be able to release the last album.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
One of them did that for.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Sure that's guaranteed, Like he's not gonna be able to
release it at this point. I mean, they're gonna give
him shit. And if they even did let him, they
for sure wouldn't support it. They're not gonna let him
release it on another label. They have exclusive rights to
his music. That's why I'm saying that the business part
of it that everybody's talking about doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
And it's hard for me.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Now.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Maybe it's the humble beginnings.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Maybe it's growing up in continent wise, I don't know
what it is that makes me think nobody's ego could
be that fractured in big.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Rategically, Like, look, this clocked my career.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
That was on borrowed time. Anyway, I need to get
a check on the way out the door. That kind
of stuff happens.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
But that don't make sense. He wouldn't he wasn't going
to not be able to make money in the business
like it wasn't like because he lost the battle, his
career was over. That's just not how hip hop worked,
That's not how rap music works. Like jah Ruth still
had a couple platinum albums and hit singles before you
know what really caused the end of murder inc we've

(37:14):
talked about it is when the FEDS came after IRV Gotti.
If that was truth, and Joah would have got signed
someplace else. Yeah, but it's more to that, right that
he was trying to hold out with his men. They
remember the Feds, they wouldn't do business with IRV Gotti.
He signed the IRV Gotti so they couldn't do business
anywhere else. And he just rolled it with his homeboy,

(37:35):
just rolled it out. It wouldn't have been like jah
Ru couldn't have got signed at another label. This is
not true, Like it's not the battle. No battle has
ever ended a rapper's career. What they do after the
battle determines what happens to their career. It's just a
rap battle. There's a there's a whole league of people

(37:56):
rap battling every week and they lose and win, and
people come back and back again, like you didn't lose.
If that was the case when he lost to Push
a T that would have been the end of his career,
or when jay Z lost to Nas that would have
been the end.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Of his career. It don't work that way.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
But it was the pr battle.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
But I'm saying he didn't lose the PR battle. He's
making the PR worse. Like everything he's doing post the
battle is making the PR worse. The battle would have
just been over. Like, yes, we would have talked about
the day we saw that fight. You know, we saw
you know, a sugar Ray Leonard lose to Duran, But

(38:34):
he came back and he won the next fight. Now
when he fought him again, like it's normal, you can lose.
Losing is not the end of life. That's funny listening,
it was sunny listening. Came back and won after that.
After he lost still, George came back.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
George Foreman lost and came back twenty years later and
did something no other fighter in the history of the
heavyweight division has ever done.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
It did he He went into hibernation for two decades
and came back and a reunion tour.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, that's more about his own thing.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Shout out to a thank you for the five dollars
man feeding us some months at this lunch table, Yo, glasses,
I gotta ask what you think about Drake not along
PG Lane outfits at this new concert out of concern.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
We just mentioned that A much love. Welcome to the
lunch Table.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Bullies might like whipped you with a T shirt like
in a locker room style.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
You could get hurt by one of those shirts more
than say another shirt like a hand shirt.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Nah throwing out there.

Speaker 7 (39:39):
I think I think he's trying to. I think he
felt like he's already been getting trolled for the past
eight months and he's like, yo, listen, I know they
gonna probably around and pull up to the fucking show
and troll me in the front row with nothing but
PG Lane shirts and ship like that. Let's let's let's
bought it for coming in the stadium. You know what
I'm saying. You can't avoid the troll though.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
I think it it's interesting that he is performing that
far away from Compton. I mean, it doesn't get you
further in Australia.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Shout out to the name brand, thank you for the comments.
My boyther is lunch Table. The artist formally known as
Drake come in.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
It's funny.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
When I first got my record deals with Cash Money Records,
and I was in with my attorney, Bob Lieberman, and
I was reading through the contract, the final contract that
they sent me that I had to sign, and it
said it started with the artists and his likeness. Yeah,
And I remember asking Bob, like, what the hell is

(40:38):
the artist in his likeness? And he goes through this story.
He said, there was an artist in the late seventies
and eighties that was signed to Warner Brothers. He didn't
like how things was going with his contract or they
were supposed to change I think the royalty rate of
his contract and they didn't, and he started to release
music under a symbol. And he said after that they

(41:00):
added the concept of likeness. He said that artist was prince,
so they actually did things to actually combat that.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
But do you think that.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Drake, instead of writing slave on the side of his face,
could write plaintiffs on the side.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Of his face as a brand revival principle?

Speaker 3 (41:25):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Shout out to Memi Angel, thank you for being at
the Lynch tapele one contributing. Appreciate that glasses. You are
trying to rationalize something that is root and emotions. He
is throwing a tempered tension. He hired lawyers to fight
this fight for him, You know what, It seems that way,
But I just cannot believe, like this is just unfucking believable.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
This is a grown ass man.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
This is what happens when you grow up in a
different ecosystem and then exist in a compensated echo chamber
for twenty years. I mean, like you see weird, like
super eccentric, you know, like like weird famous white people

(42:15):
to get into like bizarre circles. This is that playing
out in a different way. You're a weird, anti social person.
You're you're not a mainstream personality. You're some sort of
you know, savantage type individual. And then you exist in
this tiny circle of people that happened to be on

(42:37):
the payroll for twenty years, and your perspective is warped.
Imagine you didn't start off regular, Like I know.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
I said seven years ago that Due wasn't hip hop,
and I didn't think he was this far away from
the culture. Like I didn't think he was this far
away from in the culture.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
I don't know what street it is like in Long Beach.
It's like you either on one side of Cherry or
the other.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Shout out to p regardless if you believe his business
was hurt or not. What option does a business have
because it's kind of like it's kind of sounding like
you're saying lay down. What do you mean lay down?
There's no fight to fight, pee Like. All you have
to do is release music. All he has to do.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (43:34):
It's tantamount to General Motors suing Tesla for eating up
market share of their ev division or something else, or
suing a governing body at the Department of Energy and saying, oh,
Department of Energy, you allowed for Tesla to gobble up
all of our market share from the Chevy Vault, which sucked.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Like I could see if this battle stopped him from
being able to release music.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
It didn't.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I can see if this battle stopped him from like
if they was like this not like a song is
so good. We don't want to release your music Drake anymore.
You're you're we're letting you go off the label, and
then you know, other labels like, you know what the
way you lost that battle, we.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Don't want to sign you. That's not what's happening.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
I can see if he put out not like us,
and then Australia said, you know what, we're going to
cancel these concerts. We don't want to lose the money
on you because people don't want to see you anymore.
They don't want to come to your concerts because of
this not like Us song, like nothing has changed or
what the fuck are y'all talking about? Bro, what are

(44:43):
y'all talking about? He didn't lose any Nike. He did
not release a press release. Well you know what, these
new facts and this not like Us says we need
to actually disassociate our business with Drake because of Kendrick's allegations,
and we know they're true. We're cutting off your business.
That's not what's happening. So he didn't need to do

(45:04):
anything for his business but do business. He didn't need
to do He didn't need to do anything for his
business but do business.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
After the battle, didn't the Raptors revoke his season tickets?

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Though, No, what no, Wow, nothing happened like he is.
I was telling somebody on Twitter like they was like,
you know, man, you know Kendrick killed him. I said, no,
that didn't kill him. We're not watching a murder, we're

(45:45):
watching a suicide.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Yeah, gave him though.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
It's like, it's like how online bullying leads to a suicide.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
It's not shout out to Todd. Nike wouldn't announce something
like that unless it was true. They didn't separ they
didn't sever their business. Todd Nike didn't say, hey, we're
severing our business. He didn't lose any contracts because of
a battle. People don't lose contracts because of a battle.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Yeah, I mean, there's teeth to contracts, and you have
to say he's he's in breach of contract. Is there
a don't lose battle clause in the contract?

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Man, that's a good contract clause. If you lose a battle,
we don't owe you any more money. You know what
I'm saying that he'd be.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Suing to argue that he actually won technically I won.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Because it's just unbelievable. Would have believed somebody mind could
be this messed up, Like I'm struggling to believe a
man's mind could be this messed up.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
That's a struggle for me. Hmm, suplain, I cannot believe
he could be this emotionally bothered by losing a bat Like.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Don't get me wrong, I've lost things.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
My mother passed away, the federal government took everything I
had twice in my life. Right, I've lost things, but
I've never let them completely compromise my whole journey. Shout
out to Todd Man. I got a big hypothetical. What

(47:33):
happens to the industry if UMG loses this case, if
it's the end of hip hop in the record business.
If UMG lost this case, it's the end of hip hop.
At that point, they will start to censor every last
thing an artists. If one artist or if a person

(47:54):
can sue a record company because of what an artist says,
why the hell they would have to censor everything, and
immediately they would scrub everything cultured from it, because that's
the whole point of it, right the conversation. So it
would be the end of hip hop. If he won,
hip hop would forever be done. It would go into

(48:15):
a space where it's nothing but clean people doing it,
saying clean and regular things that nobody care about. Shout
out to Lucky Lawrence Glasses. Do you think the creative
thing to do here is remixed to not like us
addressing other artists like Joey Badass. Nah, you could just
leave that alone. That's just what it is. Shout out

(48:39):
to Squishy. No matter the color or creed, glasses, I
think men are men. I don't care what creed of color.
I think this is like a standard amongst men. Shout
out to earns. So what is the ultimate outcome after
this lawsuit? Drake and his lawyers know exactly what they

(49:00):
are doing. Nothing happened for no reason. There's a purpose
behind all this. I don't think that's true. See, Like
I thought to myself just like that initially, Like I've
always gave Drake entirely too much credit for being intelligent.
I've always gave him too much credit for being like
his success. And the reality is it's a lot more

(49:22):
into that than he is. Defamation amount they want the
court to name it, gotcha, No, I mean like they're there.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Yeah, it's legally too much, very close to a ongoing
lawsuit that is having active mediation happening as we speak
right now. The distance between parties is so vast. It
reflects the subjectivity of perspective and interpretation of reality and

(49:59):
how distorted that can be between parties.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
The idea that, yeah, you can't.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Have somebody who's highly talented as a litigator, believe, push
comes to shove. I think I can win this thing
based off of ABCDFG. Another guy goes based off of
my ability and my track records. You don't see the
chance in hell based off of x y Z. That's
like every lawsuit, you know, that's half of every lawsuit

(50:30):
in a courtroom today.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
So I mean, never be amazed.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Shout out to P. His whole claim is things have
happened business and safety wise.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
I'll take his word like I take your word hate
speculating what reebs could be affected.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
It's just not true. P. That's just not true.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Doesn't say that he's only claiming things have happened safety wise.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Nothing. They're not claiming in the lawsuit nothing has happened
business wise, saying hey, you know what Universal went from
offering us, you know, six hundred million to two hundred million.
That's not what's saying.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
He hasn't said one thing has happened business wise in
this whole Yes, it's probably why he's going to move
the lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
A season desist order he's looking for in some sort
of a statement.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah, he wanted he wanted Universal to pull the record
down in July am out May fourth. He wanted them
to pull it down roughly sixty days later, so he
reached out to UMG and said, hey, you know what,
this song right here is causing harm to my safety
and Universal, you know they not the most street people
in the world, but they also ain't stupid. If me

(51:39):
and Trapp know what happened in Wise House got shot up,
then they know Wise House got shot up. They're not crazy.
So they didn't give any credence to what he was
talking about. So he was saying like he was threatening
the lawsuit in the UMG said, you would look stupid
trying to sue us over a battle that you were
in with another rapper where you're insulting him and he's
insulting you. And he just went through it anyway because

(52:02):
he didn't get them to do what he wanted them
to do. He wanted them to take down He wanted
them to censor Kendrick Lamar's record, and it's weird because
he didn't censor his own record.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
And that's yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
The bottom line is it's like closing the door after
the horses have already left.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
The barn at that point, shout out the trees, my lord,
much love, bro, thank you for the five dollars, Appreciate
you feeding us that lunch on me, Bruce.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Egos can lead to your own death. That's what happened
right now with Drake. It looks like that you guys
are all right, shout out to Todd Glasses. We can't
speak too soon. We don't know what proof of whatever
it is he allegedly have.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yes, we do.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
It's not soon. He just doesn't have he knows why
his house got shut up. That's just not true. Dude,
probably could pull something out that exposes UMG for unethical practices.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
That's not what he's suing for. He's not suing you
and fun of unethical practices.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
He's saying he's swing them because they put out a
dish record and marketed a dish record that was disrespecting him.
It's not about unethical practices. You guys kind of keep
trying to really guide the narrative into something that that's
not the lawsuit. The lawsuit is over specifically what Kendrick
Lamar said to him and UMG promoting the record, or

(53:22):
Kendrick Lamar said those things about him. It's not anything else.
Like I can read this lawsuit to you. We could
go through all of those lyrics, you feel me and
at the end of the day, you know what I mean,
You would have to know that's about the lyrics. And
he said that would be a huge plot twist. Nothing,
Todd is gonna make a huge plot twist. This can't

(53:43):
go anywhere but bad. And you can't say this is
not true because only the courts know what's going on,
the courts don't know what's going on.

Speaker 7 (53:50):
Todd.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
That's probably the last person that knows, because they're.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Like and Todd like, look, man, this is not a
This is not a battle, Like you're not in a battle.
I'm like, this is a regular thing. Back to that point, Glasses,
we can't speak too soon. We don't know what proof
or whatever he's allegedly have.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yes, we do. We do know what proof. We do
know the proof.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
He doesn't have proof that nobody shot up his house
because Kendrick Lamar dropping out like us. That's ridiculous. He
could pull out a huge UMG for unethical practices. He's
not suing them for unethical practices. He's suing them because
they marketed a record dissing him. It's no plot twist.

(54:39):
That's the actual lawsuit. It's a defamation lawsuit. He couldn't
sue them for anything else. He couldn't sue them for
Paola on another record. He couldn't sue them for anything else.
He's suing them because they marketed a record where somebody
had inflamma said inflammatory material about him on a record
they promoted it.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
That's what he's sawing them for.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Toad like, you gotta you gotta kind of stay focused,
like it's not one of those things glasses. You are
being super biased.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
The suit mentions Paola and Box also, which is unethical practice.
If that's true, you gotta stop being biased. That's not
the point. He's not swing them because they marketed Payola bots.
He's suing them based off of the other seventy paragraphs
where he's talking about the lyrics of the song come
On Man like you got that, And it wasn't a

(55:35):
laws to he was trying to petition them. He was
trying to bring criminal charges. He wanted the federal government
to bring criminal charges on them for these things. That's
why he called it a corporate rico. M you know,
I mean, it wasn't That wasn't what he was trying
to do. He dropped that case because it was ridiculous
and went straight for defamation, saying they're marketing a record

(55:58):
that Kendrick Lamar has said.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
The unsavory things about him, like listen to the stuff.
I'll read some more of it here it is. Here's
more lyrics.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Do the record label for defamation and not the artist himself.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Because they convinced him. You know what I'm saying. They
convinced him that it would make him look bad, he said.
Within the first minute, the recording identifies Drake by name
and states that Lamar has heard that Drake as a
pre unde say Drake, I hear you like them young
in quotation marks. The next line is a thinly veiled

(56:43):
threat that Drake should be careful that he never ends
up in prison, a place where child predators are notoriously
the target of violence. You better not ever go to
sell block one. The recording continues to say that any
woman who falls in love with Drake should be careful
to hide her little sister from him. Next, in a

(57:05):
perverse reference to Drake's twenty twenty one album Certified lover Boy,
Certified lover Boy, Certified Pedophiles. In a play on the
dual meaning of minor a person under the age eighteen
and a musical skill, the recording says that Drake is
trying to strike a chord and it's probably a minor.

(57:27):
Later in the recording, Lamar describes Drake as Malibu's most wanted.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
The recording continues.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
To see because he doesn't own a home, is cal.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
This is unbelievable. The recording continues to say that Drake
and people in the circle need to be served with
a subpoena because a predator moves in flocks and as
search that Drake's name gotta be registered and placed on
neighborhood watch, Like, y'all gotta get this.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
This is in a lawsuit.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Me, that's in the long suit. Bro, that's in paragraph
that's in paragraph fifty four to paragraph sixty three. They
just go through the lyrics. Listen.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
The recording also repeatedly suggests that violence should be used
against Drake because he is a pedophile. Like the sound
of someone being beaten up. The recording repeats wa wa,
and then says Lamar will fuck him up. Later, the
recording threatens that if Drake comes to Oakland, where Lamar

(58:38):
grew up, he will make it out. He won't make
it out alive. I think that Oakland show going be
your last stop.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Did he grow up in Oakland?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
No, Kendrick, did I grew up in Oakland, he.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Should sue him for defamation.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Like fuck a caption but through physical islands want action,
no accident and I'm hands on he fuck around and
get polished. At the end of the recording, the lyrics
threatenedly repeat, hey hey, hey, hey, run for your life.
Hey hey, hey, hey, run for your life. Which that
is not even about Drake. That's about people running away

(59:18):
from Drake. The recording contains. The recording contains numerous additional
statements that imply the existence of evidence to support the
allegations against Drake. The recording threatens that Lamar could reveal
more secrets about Drake. Rabbit hole is still deep. I
can go further, I promise, and that the public will

(59:40):
believe him. The audience is not dumb. Shape the stories
how you want, Hey, Drake, They're not slow. The recording
continues by making reference to several Drake songs and accusing
Drake of being a liar for denying pedophile, denying allegations
of criminality, the family matter, the truth of the matter.

(01:00:02):
It was God's plan to show y'all the liar.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
I want to hear him break down. That did they break?
The comedy that the COEs apart.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Down to yes, furthering okay, let me. The recording also
makes a Voger attack on Drake's brand. Oh v oh
what o v O foe the other vaginal option pussy
and let me hear you say O v ho O
v ho say o v ho rantasies ov ho. Furthering,

(01:00:33):
the recordings refrained that that Drake is not like us.
The recording alludes to Drake's Jewish heritage, saying that Drake
is not a colleague but a fucking colonizer.

Speaker 7 (01:00:54):
Bro, that's crazy, that's good heat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
I can't you can't make this ship up, bro, Like
you can't make this up.

Speaker 7 (01:01:07):
When this story gets told twenty years from now, like
some fucking some Hollywood story should be Oh my god,
like this is crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
This is a movie, man, it's a bad movie at that.
But it's a movie. Though. This is like a fucking
lifetime some shit like that. This is a fucking bird.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
It's just crazy, shout out to tide. Yeah, but people
go flip the narrative and be like Kendrick sue too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Law is law.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
You gotta stand on business. I don't know, y'all gotta
stop using that term. I don't know what the hell
business that that. That's not what that means, like going
to if you work at McDonald's and you flipping Hamburger.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
That's not what they mean when they say standing on business.
It's not.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
It's cool, bro, but that's not what they mean. Shout
out to trees. Trees is really feedings. That's fifteen dollars
from you. Thank you for the five dollars. I think
Drake not dropping music because he don't know what to
rap about anymore. He can't rap about being number one anymore,
or women in the same light. In my opinion, that's
not true. Trees like Drake can rap about number one.

(01:02:13):
He was still the number one most streamed artist last year,
whether it's his catalog or whatever. Like, he's not some
run of the meal artists where he can't drop songs.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
Or women in this country that would love to hear
a song about how they should be given a bunch
of expensive things for free.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
That market will never dry up nor die I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Think again, it goes to the people in this at
the lunch table that's saying Drake is not dropping music
because he's throwing a tantrum. It's not like I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Can't logically, you know, I would love to believe somebody
that's more successful like Drake. You know, somebody that's achieved
more in the music business like Drake is smarter than
I am. But that don't actually or more intelligent. That
actually doesn't make mean it's true, like somebody even as

(01:03:06):
successful as that, can make dumb ass moves like dumb. Yeah,
absolutely dumb moves. And I cannot help but to understand
and be aware of how dumb of a move this is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
It's just dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
He's turned himself into the Antonio Brown of hip hop.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
I think he could shout out to the homie Kelvin Kell,
what's up baby? He ain't gonna be at a popp
it like he used to. Of course he can now
are we gonna believe it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Is different? But trust me, it's enough people in this
world that will believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
None of it makes sense to me, Kelvin because like
I don't get like it's not like he lost anything
on his brand. Like, yeah, there're gonna there gonna be
some people that's gonna make you work harder to get
their attention, right, they get to bring credence to what
you're saying. But he is in a position where he
had the greatest companies in music history supporting what he does.

(01:04:12):
So it doesn't make sense. There's no way, there's no
way possible that any of this makes sense. He can
get on the mic and say anything, He can get
on the mic and make records like all you would
have to do is work harder. But it's Drake, So

(01:04:33):
none of this makes sense to me at all. Shout
out to uh not for sale man. We appreciate the
five dollars, bro much love to the two six, you
know what I mean? The Northwest Drake should have stuck
his comeback season so far gone persona. I feel like
the industry empowered is fake tough image. Possibly I'm not
mad at that, I mean, but I also think again,

(01:04:55):
even when I'm listening to him, even when I'm listening
to him talk, you know, like it's almost like he
actually believes not like us really changed his career.

Speaker 7 (01:05:12):
I cannot believe eleven songs ain't dropped eleven song and
ain't not one of them cracked?

Speaker 9 (01:05:19):
What as normal?

Speaker 7 (01:05:20):
You know what I'm saying projections that he was doing.
It was like eleven thirteen songs ain't through shit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
You think he saw that. It was like, I'm over
like this one song, and it's true because he is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
It's different when you're not substantive and he's not. Okay,
let's put that to bed. A lot of his ship
is predicated on the idea that he's cool. Thereby anything
comes out of his mouth is cool enough or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
You take that out and now you're just a shitty
rapper cultural cachet.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
But he's good as he's a great record maker still
even if he.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Lost of cultural cachet.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
But if you got a scarlet letter next to your name,
that's really really damaging.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
Yo. I think this ship all comes down to you
know what I'm saying, Like he needed to just take
a break. Be people was tired of that nigga man.
I mean man, that's excuse the name work, but people
was tired of him though, man like, like he needed
he needed to just sit back and relax, you know
what I'm saying. Even after the battle he took the
l sat back, relaxed. Let us see you next October. Bro, Like,

(01:06:33):
come on, you ain't giving nobody your break's how you know?
They were just trying to milk that cow for a
much tiger out of him. Be for real, for real,
you know what I'm saying, Because it's like it's like
he couldn't take a break. It's like they wouldn't let him.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Take a break.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
I don't think it's him.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
I think it was him keep wanting to go out
there and put them heels on?

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Like you gotta understand what it's like. I was saying
to y'all the other day and on clubhouse at ADHD.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
It's like he wanted to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
He realized not only would this change his fortune, but
it also would change his cultural cachet. Like I'm starting
to realize how valuable this street urban culture is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Like it's on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Another level because like he was ready to sue the
company that pretty much changed his life. Right, you're gonna sue.
You're threatening to leave the job. Right, you're threatening to
leave the job of this Nickelodeon show. Let you tell it.

(01:07:41):
Let you tell it that put you in your mom
in a better position, that got you to buy a car,
a nicer place, And you're gonna leave it because you're
worried about your reputation when it comes to making records.
You feel me, that's showing me again. This culture. The

(01:08:02):
thing that I defend so vehemianly is important. Like it's
if everybody else sees the value, even if us in
the center of it don't truly get it. Oh like
they like when I first thought Drake wasn't hip hop
based off of the studies, I knew, you know what
I'm saying, it was different. Like I was like, oh,

(01:08:23):
this is different, Like this is special. You know, these
New York brothers really gave us something special. And then
at that point I knew that how I felt about
it and how I was gonna stand up for it.
But man, when I watch Vlad or Adam or anybody
else truly become millionaires because of it, just listening to

(01:08:46):
some brothers, you know, from the same country that all
these other people from. But like this story specifically is
that valuable. Shout out to Mimi Angel, thanks for the
comment at the lunch table.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Sate you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
What's crazy is the anti Semitic aspect putting his lawsuit
regarding the song ironic because the boss of you and
G is Jewish. They don't even think it's They know
how this rap battle stuff go. They've been around this
business so long and they actually try to get you
not to get into rap battles because they really be
like they don't really matter, but people gonna do what
they do.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Shout out to RUFFI and tv A g mark my words.
Kate is gonna end up in court.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
He's gonna realize it makes no difference in the eyes
of the community whether you sue the company or the
person for a song.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Understand that sense almost juxtaposed.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
I mean maybe, but I think he'll lose every lawsuit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
I think he's gonna lose every Like all he's doing
is digging himself a deeper hole. You mean, after he
loses the you, he's gonna try to sue, but he's
gonna lose every lawsuit. Like that's the problem. Like you're
gonna keep losing because that's not This.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Is not true. This is not real.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
And let's say loses on the standing issue, it's not
gonna matter what he won't so it won't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Shout out to Cam, thank you for the five dollars, brother.
I am praying for Kendrick. I wish Drake would go away.
You know, I don't want him to go away. I
just want the man to get back to making some
damn music and stop with this done shit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I don't want him to make any more music. I
want him to go away.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
He's he is a massive amplifier of pussy interest rates
and find it disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Shout out to p So are you saying if he
was in a different position, you'll believe he took damage.
He didn't take damage because battle rap doesn't damage you.
What you do after a battle will mess you up.
Like what battle is, it's what's damaged is his ego.
His business is not damage. Universal Like, listen, if let's

(01:10:56):
say all of those numbers were true. Let's say he
was on the verge of getting six hundred million this time,
right that all those numbers are true, and Universe was like,
you know what, you lost that battle. We're not gonna
give you six hundred million. Warner will give you six
hundred million. Like you like you still have negotiating power,
You're still drake. If you put out the If you

(01:11:17):
put out the album, will party and that album sells
two three billion streams. You know it does two to
three billion streams. You can go to Warner Brothers and say, hey,
they sleeping, let's do this for the money.

Speaker 7 (01:11:28):
Can't go to warn up they said, old boy, old
boy centers over at. Warner said, on the you can
probably in upon it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
I mean wherever you can go, anywhere you I mean
you you have the keys to the castle.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Yeah, there's all there's all kinds of ways you could sell.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Warrior.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
This is past a rap battle. Gee, it's war. Anything go,
it's not war. Only people who never been in war
think this is war.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
This is not war. This is just a rap battle.

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
So this be my question though, right, so so he
could do that suit right there, right so now can
Kendrick come back around and do a suit and say yo?
He said I was a wife. He said I beat
my wife or his wife could do that or yeah
or say or say yo yo. He said, my best

(01:12:22):
friend is the is the real father of my of
my chat like bro, like, come on, man, this shit
is getting wicked me like it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
It's take the ad with it.

Speaker 7 (01:12:35):
And I'm saying, I think after February ninth, that's when
Super Bowl is that she's gonna be thrown out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
He's just trying to shout out to Don Dubb. I
think we're overlooking his team. He is being talking. He
is being oh he has been talking with a team,
and these are moves being made. I don't think it's
his team. Don like knowing the team and the guys.
That's not his team. Just that's not how they would
do things.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
And this is like another thing also that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Like shout out to Mark. Go ahead and read Mark's comment.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
Yeah, every once in a month, every month or so,
I get into I guess somebody agrees with me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Mark, you the best.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
I agree with Pete obviously the smartest guy in the room,
not me Mark. The Drake brand is about being the
top guy for ten years. His fans live and die
by him being the winner. Neither party knows what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
With the loss.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Shout out to Soukla, what's going on, Sue Tray, Soca,
what's going on on? My brother, Michael love Man, Welcome
back from Mexico. Thank you for the gifted ten digital
soal Box network memberships. I still don't know what that is,
but we great. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Whatever it is. I need to get figure out what
it is.

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
We got to call steal and ask about that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Shout out to black black Eye too, do you think
he is suing to protect interest? He got in other
brand deals. He got contracts with Disney's. That's a partnership.
You don't want a PDF sting with deals like that.
They didn't pull out of the deals. He doesn't need
to sue them. Disney understands it's a rap battle. Like
the fact that y'all think there's American brands that don't

(01:14:21):
understand what just happened. Like people, White people are not
as clueless as you guys would like to give it
to believe they are. They're not that clueless. Nike knows
it was a rap battle. Disney knows it was a
rap battle. Toronto raptors know it was a rap battle.
Nobody left the battle thinking to themselves, know what, Drake

(01:14:41):
just might be a pedophile.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
That's not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
How did Ketric coup this information? And if we all
missed it?

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Yes, oh you know what, shout out to Kendrick Lamar
because we had no idea, Like, that's not what's happening
though it don't make sense, shout out to shout out
to them me Todd oh g that's speed.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
He making more sense than the whole Twitter world. What
he said, true, people was just tired of Drake winning.
When you win like he did all the years. Only
thing left for people to do is see if you
get to your your head.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
To that could be true.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Too.

Speaker 8 (01:15:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Again, people get tired of people winning that standard, but
that still is no reason to behave this way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
This is just ridiculous. I'm not reading that soon. I'm
not reading that, Sue. No, no, no, no, no, what's up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Drake is pissed.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
He refuses to believe he lost to Dot any other
rapper but died you could tell. I think he always
been scared at that. He's so pissed, he like, how
dare you? His ego is going to get the best
of him. You know what's funny? Like knowing knowing knowing
Dot right, and and he's matured obviously a million but

(01:16:00):
the core of him, I really truly believe I always
will know who he is, no matter if I hang
with him all the time like I used to, or
I don't see him often like I do now, and
I talk to him sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
So there's a there's a there's a reality that Drake.
Drake took him on tour, right, Drake took him on tour,
and that was solid, But how he treated him on
tour is the problem. If you don't create that camaraderie
with somebody and you think that they should just be
grateful that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
You put him on tour. Everybody is now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
I was telling my niece this, everybody is not light
glasses Malone, Like, here's a real story.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
I don't want to tell it, but I'm gonna tell
it anyway. When I first got signed to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Black Wall Street, right shout out to facing g Ride,
don't tell a story.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Are you sure you can tell the story without getting sued? Man,
I don't want to allow you to, you know, be
subjective legal exposure.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
I'll be fine. I don't think Chuck is gonna suit me.
Oh okay.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
I thought this had to do with Trake.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Everybody, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
So when I first start fucking with Black Wall Street,
Fox sent Rest in Peace for the most part, brought
me to Most people don't know this, but for faux
Bent or Billboard as they call him as a rapper,
brought me to Black Wall Street. Now, I knew g
Ride before. G ry was a hustler, and everybody around
the way knew who g Ryd was. I didn't know game.

(01:17:25):
I mean, I've seen Jay before it because he played
at com High School and we would go there and
our low Riders and watch the game. But I didn't
really know him. His brother Face is a legend. Big
Face was a legend amongst the generation. That's my generation,
his homeboy, his young homie, little Face and Whack who
you see in the red car that be with Game.

(01:17:45):
Not Whack from Pacoima Pou, not his manager, but Whack
from Fruit Town. Those were guys I knew from the streets.
They used to come to the neighborhood and I'd be
hustling and they be politicking, and we just had a
good time. We had a great relationlationship. But Fox sent
is the guy that took me to g Ride facing Game.

(01:18:06):
So they thought I had talent and they decided that
that I could rock with they movement. And that's where
Black Wall Street Blue Division came from. Fast Forward Game
is figuring his way out. Shout out to Jim Jones
because Jim Jones brought a lot of extra validity. I
you know, I hope Chuck wouldn't get upset fitting me
for saying this, but what with Jim Jones was able

(01:18:26):
to help secure for Game on the East Coast, You know,
just like Game gave a lot more credence to Jim
Jones being a blood, you know, being out the West.
In this connection, it benefited both of them and it
really took him, gave him his first hit record. Shout
out to Jim forgiving Chuck, you know, a certified gangsters.
That's a smash and it really made me have this

(01:18:48):
different respect from Jim Jones from that day forward.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
But long story short, Game is starting to take off.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
He builds this relationship with fifty cent, He's getting these
records and now it's bubbling. You can see the storm.
You can see the wave is coming. That's about to
be Game, which actually makes twenty years yesterday or this weekend.
It came out January eighteenth, so shout out to the documentary.
It went gold in the first week, but rewind that back,

(01:19:15):
so it's blowing up. It's blowing up. It takes off
boom and drops gold in the first week, five to seventy.
That's incredible. Game is about to go on tour. You know,
he's high demand him and Stupid's going on tour. He's
getting thirty thousand dollars a night to start his career.
In two thousand and five.

Speaker 7 (01:19:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
He bought everybody chains on Black Wall Street, everybody except Glasses, right,
And that bothered me. That emotionally bothered me. I felt
some kind of way because I'm like, damn bro, like
I'm kicking up all of dust. But again, me and
Chuck didn't have this super tough relationship. Me and Face

(01:19:54):
had this relationship, Me and g Rie, Me and Folk
sent rest in peace at that relationship. Me and Chuck
had his great relationship even though he accepted me as
a part of Black Wall Street. And I always felt
some kind of way, And I told this story before,
but I always felt some kind of way about that
maybe one day he'll be like, I'm gonna get you
your black Wall chain. But he didn't give me one.
And I watched Face have to give chains away, knowing

(01:20:17):
that he couldn't give me a chain. Now I remembered that.
But I was so grateful, you know what I'm saying,
that he still allowed me to be a part of
Black Wall Street. You know what I'm saying. I was
still so grateful for him allowing me to be a
part of Black Wall Street. That's the only thing that

(01:20:37):
mattered to me, right, So I never triped and to
this day, I'm always uber.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Grateful for game. But that's not everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Everybody, you can't give them crumbs and they'll thank you
like you gave them a loaf or everybody don't understand
the value of crumbs. So if he's on tour right
and you're not treating him like family, Kendrick is a
Gemini bro.

Speaker 8 (01:21:02):
That dude.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
You really gotta fuck with him to fuck with him.
If you have fun with him, that's not cool. He
not that kind of guy, not that kind of guy.
If you have fuck with him, y'all don't fuck with
each other at all. And that's who he is. Everybody,
you can't give the minimal things too. Some people going
to demand more. Shout out to revenge. People did lead

(01:21:28):
a battle thinking here PDF people are generally not smart.
They still didn't think he was a PDF bro. That
was a very minute, ridiculous group of the population. Most
of us understood it was a joke. Shout out to
Michael Love. Thank you for the five dollars, my boy.
If a like is a platinum record, a membership is
a platinum album, My man, thank you for the Gameland.

(01:21:55):
I really look forward to see how Kendrick orchestrates his
Super Bowl performance. I think it would be one of
the ultimate moments in hip hop history. It's looking really crazy,
That's what I'm saying. He's he's just promoting Kendrick. Listen,
this is this is free promotion right now them and
thank Drake.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
Thank you Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
What crazy is? What's crazy is?

Speaker 5 (01:22:18):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
What's crazy is.

Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
You see that? You see that? I got to hear
that right there? But did you did you see what it?
What's that? Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
What's that?

Speaker 5 (01:22:31):
Joey respond to your boy?

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
That's good. That's good. I'mnna check it out out there.

Speaker 5 (01:22:36):
They have got on that right there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Well, you shout out my mic works niece. You always
got the back door link. It's one link, so you
could always come in Me and Peter Hosh. It ain't
no thing anytime. Shout out to Black October, So glasses.
Do you believe that Drake and Dot talked before this battle?
Like Joe Budden said, Sure, I believe it, but I
don't know what they said. You the difference if I

(01:23:01):
know what they say, because I know what Doc didn't say.
Shout out to Nick. I always thought that too, just
by that little speech Dre gave out on tour on stage,
I was looking like, Oh, he's trying the son dot.
That's to me where the thing really comes from. Just
because you took him out on tour when he was hot,
you know, if you didn't really embrace him and treat

(01:23:21):
him like you got some sense. Again, I keep telling y'all,
the black experiences is how people treat black people. Culture
is how you treat each other. So if you didn't
culturally bond with him and treat him in a certain way,
it's not gonna Really, you're not gonna get the result
you was looking for. Obviously, shout out to Pete. I
don't think they are clueless. I do believe business will

(01:23:42):
use any anything for leverage. And as far as believability
of the claims, I've heard wishes of harm on the
man on multipleccasions. That's just height the universal. Can't you
what can universal? How could Universal say, hey, you know what,
we're not gonna pay you more because you lost a battle.
That don't make sense. And if that was the case,
he could just walk off and do a deal somewhere else.

(01:24:03):
He could drop his project and walk off and do
a deal somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
I mean, the other unspoken reality of all this is
he had a song or two in this battle that
he put out. It wasn't for lack of access.

Speaker 5 (01:24:22):
It wasn't barred in.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
Any way, shape or form from being able to respond,
you know, symmetrically.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Yeah, I don't know, man, that ship is really really,
really disappointing. Unless, like Christopher Drake has quite a few
fans who identify with MAGA. I think Drake needs to
come out and fully condemned trump standing on social issues
to be legit. Listen, let me say something about.

Speaker 8 (01:24:53):
Let me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
I don't think back of people like Drake at all.
There is no cultural vote happening when it comes to politics.
There was only one time in history that there was
a cultural sway, one time in history, this whole time.

(01:25:16):
Some black people have like Trump, some street people especially
have like Trump. You are not not black if you
vote for Trump. Trump is not anymore anti black than Biden.
They are all presidents. It's your choice. Choose who you want.

(01:25:37):
Choose who you want. It don't make you not black
if you vote for Trump or Biden. None of it matters,
I don't. If you don't vote for him, you ain't black.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
He did say that. He didn't say that that was crazy.
That was some hella. He shout out said, shout out
to the homie Kelvin.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
God, stop looking at the lebs and rappers for your
political ideas.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Learn history and tunes for yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Exactly, dog Like, why do y'all keep trying to mention
presidents as something that's it asking people to learn and choose.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
We need a more realistic approach.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Shout out to revenge. I think he wants out of
the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
It's the single thing that makes sense that doesn't make
sense revenge because he could have gave them the P
and D album and walked out of the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
The thing that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Is parties involved realized the more Drake bitches, the more
universal makes and there's gonna be a NDA settlement where
they compensate him handsomely for the bitching and the back
door because it's made them so much money. They said,

(01:26:53):
just keep bitching, final loss or whatever. Six months will
have an NDA undisclosed settlement. We'll make sure you're taken
care of.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
You can't give You can't get out of the deal.
You can't get out of the deal. You can't sue
yourself out of a deal.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
That is not how you get out of a deal.
That's not it's not if you want to give them
the album, you don't want out of the deal. Why
the hell would you want out of the deal with
the best company period? That don't make sense this. I
think people are trying to pull logic to this, and
that was my mistake, right. It's not logics. Nothing about

(01:27:33):
this is logical. And I know it's hard because we're
looking at someone uber successful in this one specific business
and we're like, well, he gotta be logical because he's
been successful.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
It's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Shout out to Christopher. I'm surprised you and g didn't
end Drake's career.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Stay tuned yea watch Stay Tuned. That's over, say tuned.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Thog like easily he could have turned in the Party
next Door album, did the business, walked out and did
a deal with anybody else. That's not what the contract
is saying. The contract is not even asking, hey, you
know what I want to get out of this deal.
They could have negotiated to get out of the deal.
They wouldn't let him go. They own this whole prior
catalog it doesn't make sense. Shout out to Nick. I

(01:28:30):
think he wants more money. Drake knows he is not
going to get a bigger deal anywhere else. He just
wants people to believe he's trying to get out of
the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
Drake.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
And it can't be more money. That don't make sense.
It can't be more money. He can win the same
deal with any record label.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
UMG.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Don't have more money than nobody else in the record business.
They all got They all going to the same wells
to get the same money.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
Unless he's not seeing it as he wants more last
money because he realizes this was an appraisal nightmare and
he needs to get money by hook or by crook
now because the damage is so significant that he could
put out an album that's gonna flop and as market

(01:29:17):
value goes from X to zero point two X.

Speaker 5 (01:29:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
But I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
I don't believe that, Because why would you sue Spotify
or I Heart iHeart pretty much owns ninety percent of
the radio stations worth talking about in the country. Why
would you file a petition and move to sue them
and get their business under investigation?

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
I think it's almost conceding.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Career devastation and saying the only way I'm gonna continue
with some you know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Farewell.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
Retirement comp deal is through this lawsuit because I'm not
going to get another deal after this, because I'm worth
twenty cents of dollar when I was last year because
of this, Like he needs a severance package, is what
I'm saying. I think this is a severance package from
the industry in his mind. I'm not saying he's right.
I'm saying I think that's how he's looking at it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Shout out to Peek. Around the time of Scorpion or Views,
I was ubering at the time in the city of
San Francisco. I was playing the album The Convoy of
the Passengers was how they would beat up Drake because
he saw they five eight white boys and flip flops.
The narratives can make sentiments that can be dangerous. That's

(01:30:34):
that's just standard with anything. That's standard with being popular.
Everybody thinks I sell drugs right now. Everybody thinks a
million things of me right now. They could do a
thousand things. None of it matters, Like that's not a
reason to Narratives don't even matter. Narratives of can they
whoop us? Can those five eight white boys really whoop

(01:30:54):
his ass? That just don't make no sense. Man shout
out to revenge. This is what the industry people are saying.
Those people don't know. Birdman definitely is not saying he's
trying to get out his deal, and he would know
it's a long term play to get out of his deal.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
That's not a long term play.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
I'm just saying that's the only thing people can come
to bat with that's anything close to make sense. That
don't make sense revenge because if you had a goal,
if your goal was to get out of a deal
you feel me and still be in the music industry,
you wouldn't sue the number one person who promotes your records,
that's iHeart. You wouldn't sue the number one distributor of
your record in Spotify. Those are people now that cannot

(01:31:39):
offer you any extra opportunities. Like that don't make sense.
Got that doesn't really make sense. Revenge like that don't
make sense. It's not a long term play. I don't
know which industry person, but I make sure I have
a loan to have that conversation with them. He doesn't

(01:32:00):
make sense as a long term play to get out
of his deal. That don't make sense, because then you
wouldn't sue iHeart, You wouldn't sue the radio stations that
you're gonna need to put market your records anyway. That
just don't make sense. You wouldn't sue Spotify. You're gonna
need them to help you market the record. That don't
make sense neither. That's if you need them, Joe Budden,

(01:32:23):
then he's saying he's going to Kanye route. That don't
make sense. Kanye needed them. Kanye couldn't make it happen.
Kanye had to sneak in the back door of one
company so we can get label services.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
He didn't just go independent. He had to go to
a company that wasn't gonna fuck with him.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Kanye.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Shit is really going through a lot right now, whether
people know it or not. You know what I'm saying,
It's a lot going on with that. Like they put
him out of the door Dog. He put out a
record the first week, the record win number one. The
company kicked him out the next week and he didn't
even charted the fire Revenge.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
It's a lot to this shit.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
Brous me dog like this don't make sense even if
he thought to go independent, and he wouldn't be trying
to go to Kanye Wrout like there's no I mean,
like Kanye rout is no artist wants to go to
Kanye didn't want to go to Kanye Rout. Kanye didn't
want to go independent. Kanye talks about how he went

(01:33:20):
to every label and no label would give him a deal.
Y'all didn't see that before he put out that album,
like he was trying to get another deal. They all
turned their back on him. He did not want to
go independent. Kanye did not nothing about Kanye. He don't
want to have to do this. You have to if
you piss off a group of people, Yeah, shout out

(01:33:45):
to Christopher. Exhibit explained that Drake underestimated Kendrick. All true,
Drake believed that he was invincible because he was carried
by Wayne, was welcome by the industry, but he didn't
really rap.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
I think Drake really raps.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Well, that's probably not true, but I think he overestimated himself.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
I don't estimated Kendrick.

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
And I think that other part where like he did
get a really manicured path to stardom. Like hyper accelerated.
And it might not be that he can't wrap, but
it's more so like I don't think he appreciated the
degree to which, like, like how distinctly an outsider he was.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Relative to everybody else there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
I don't know this whole time is just so disappointed, man,
I like, it really messed me up spiritually. I mean,
just watching somebody do this like just this. I hate
when I see disingenuous people.

Speaker 7 (01:34:57):
You gotta see what Jim Jones said about this. Jim said,
some gym sets some I don't agree with him though,
but some people are seeing this in a whole other way.

Speaker 5 (01:35:06):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:35:07):
What he's saying, I mean, he basically said, like like
I said earlier, but we started, we started the partum,
We started to stream off that People looking at that
ship like, yo, he ain't like he's suing Kendrick. He's swing.
He's swing a billion dollar company right now, and he's
trying to walk away with a bill. I'm saying, how
you're gonna be mad at him?

Speaker 5 (01:35:25):
He say? People?

Speaker 7 (01:35:25):
You know, honey, people you know that got lawsuits in
the hood. People got I got He said, he ain't
doing nothing but doing a lawsuit. He said he ain't
put it on. Kendrick went on for a long run
though too. I couldn't get with it though.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
I mean, he's he's doing the equivalent of, rather than
suing the other driver that hit you, I'll sue General
Motors because they have a due check book.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Yeah, but even that, even that concept and shout out
to Gym and all the dip Set brothers were staying
loyal to somebody that they feel like he's loyal to
them and showed them love cheap love, you know what
I mean, cheap love. So it's like they want to
make sense of it, but everybody knows that this is wrong.
Cam knows is wrong, Jim knows is wrong. And I

(01:36:11):
respect that they're trying to stay loyal to you know,
he made the Dipset song and brought him out, and
they're trying to stay loyal. But you know, this probably
ain't the time because it's more devastating the people that
come from your community that need to come through the
same hallways after you. Well, I don't know if that's wise.
I mean, sometimes you got to stand up and be like, hey,
that's wrong. If that's really your partner, if that's really

(01:36:35):
your partner. You feel me, then you know he gonna understand,
he gonna respect you. But if you got to just
be blind and just agree with people doing things, that's
more harmful in the long run. It's ridiculous. Shout out
to p If everything you say is true, then his
teammate's solid. They voting and Jessic greing or not working

(01:36:56):
in his interest. That's what's happening. That's what I've been saying.
This is the problem of living in an echo chamber
of people on payroll. They are on payroll. You don't
get great integrity from your neutral confidants when you're paying them.
Shout out to revenge Glasses. What is the endplay? What's

(01:37:17):
the positive for Drake? I don't believe he's doing this
to double down on being a loser. What's the silver
lining for him? There's something somewhere. Okay, the route he's
going is only bad. The route he's going can only
end badly. Like it's not like he's not going to

(01:37:40):
win his lawsuit, right, He's not going to win his lawsuit.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
So everything they start to drag out in court.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
Right, What I'm hoping is he's doing this as a
goal to try to stop Kendrick from doing not like
us at the super Bowl, trying to get people to
disassociate from the song. But what he doesn't understand is
American business is in business with Americans. So there's no
way to label right who you are suing. Right, You're

(01:38:09):
not going to scare them. They have way deeper pockets
than you. They have way deeper connections in this court
system than you. They have everything that you don't have.
They're in business with the NFL, who's in business with Spotify,
who's in business with iHeart right, So you're not.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Going to move the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
By the way, it's undefeated in the courtrooms in this country.
You see who The NFL does not lose court cases
in this country.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
They don't. Right, even when they.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
Lose emphatically, they believe me, they win an appeal I
could pull up, I could cite examples from here Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
They do not lose in court in this country. So again,
it's one of those things where it's like the song
is going to happen. So what I'm hoping is once
the song happened, he moves off of it. Once the
Grammy's happened, he moves off of it. But the reality
is he's done so much damage to the reputation and

(01:39:06):
the relationship between him and U MG. So it's like
when you asking me specifically, like you know, what is
the endplay for Drake? I don't think. I think this
wasn't thought out. Like I know for sure a birdman
told him no, and I know for sure J Prince
said no. I know they said no. I know that
for a fact. But what's the endplay is?

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
All he's doing is digging a deeper hole where it's
like how do you climb out of the hole? Like
in real life, all of this stuff needs to be dropped.
All of this stuff needs to be dropped. You need
to focus on dropping a P and D album. You
need to go apologize Universal for being ridiculous. He need
to make a song that comes out the same day

(01:39:50):
the super Bowl happens. Stay in this case, be dope,
do his thing. But if you keep going down this
path that you're going, it's a different kind of suicide.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
You say, who it's it's a severance package settlement.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Gasp.

Speaker 8 (01:40:15):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
I think he looks at it as this is this,
this is a retirement package. I'm trying to sue for
before this thing goes to trial, and hopes that this
group just wants to get the hell out of this
situation because I'm done, I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
But but even even if that's the case, So y'are
saying he's conceding of being a musician at this point, Yes, yes, look.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
At the cycle he.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
It takes once you once your star burns out in
that genre, it takes about ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
Before now you're throwback. You know, now you're.

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
You go from being cool to being like nostalgic. So
you know there's going to be a drought window. He
wants a big settlement, can negotiate for now to compensate
through that before seven eight years from now, people, let
you know, forget about this. Who cares, you know what.
I used to love those songs. I used to you know,
hook up with girls of those songs. Yeah, that would
be fun. Mean so, and so we'll go, we'll go
see the live show.

Speaker 8 (01:41:14):
I think hip hop was just a phase. Well, rapper
was just a phase for him, I really think so.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
I think y'all both are completely wrong because.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
I think y'all watching him doing he's not making decisions
based off what's the smartest thing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
He's making decisions based off how he feels.

Speaker 8 (01:41:36):
I think y'all keep trying to make him like I
want to still be here, But I really think that
he just doesn't want to be here anymore because it's
not benefiting him anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
I don't think there's nothing that he could do could benefit.

Speaker 8 (01:41:48):
Him going back to acting that Oh well, I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Haven't seen him dabbling and acting in a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
I'm telling of y'all. He's having There's no logical stands
for this. It's not even like, oh, you know what,
I'm gonna get some money. It's like, oh, I'm mad,
there's nothing I can do but this versus like, I
don't think he's conceding on being a rapper.

Speaker 8 (01:42:17):
Why don't you think that his music that he's dropped
since the battle?

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
But he's dropping, but he's dropping, but he's dropping music.

Speaker 8 (01:42:29):
From the outside, so.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Like so then so then he can't not just want
to give up music because he's dropping music. I can
see from the drops.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
The more it fails, the more yeah reality.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
Yeah, so then that means so then he still hasn't
gave up on dropping music.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
He has because he.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Also and then he filed this suit.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
No, he put out so so so you're saying he
won't put out any more music. That's what you think
with you, I think as soon as I think, as
soon as he I think as soon as he them.
So it's not like he's he's trying to pay the debt.
Then why is he still dropping music if he doesn't
want to rap.

Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
I think as soon as he knew he was going
to put this law suit out, I think he knew
his musical career was done.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
I don't think he doesn't rap so much as I
think he realizes it's over for me.

Speaker 7 (01:43:38):
Similar It's almost some man I hate do the comparison
of it though, but like but like when the kind
of Capetts with the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:43:48):
You know what career was done after that?

Speaker 3 (01:43:53):
No, he did nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
Off trying. Did you think did you think it was
done after that?

Speaker 8 (01:44:00):
No? I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
I knew that. I knew it was.

Speaker 10 (01:44:03):
The podcast we ever did was in Englewood with head
and you and me and I said this was the
response to the fact that he was on the cut
block the week before the first knee.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Yeah, but it wasn't he wasn't given into playing football, Like,
y'all gotta stop giving people this credit.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
For he didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:44:25):
He was setting up tryouts for PR and then not
showing up at the tryouts.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
He was showing then why would he set up the
PR for the tryouts because the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
For the exactly because he was doing them for the
PR to maintain the relevance.

Speaker 5 (01:44:42):
That don't well, so he sold the NFL. It was over.

Speaker 8 (01:44:49):
After, got to stop.

Speaker 9 (01:44:52):
Stop his talent wise, like.

Speaker 7 (01:44:56):
Like I always said, like that though, wait, he could
have been a third straight on second string somewhere though,
and I'm saying like that, that could have happened right there.

Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
He didn't want that though. As soon as he sw.

Speaker 7 (01:45:05):
The NFL, he wasn't gonna get that man, no job,
no more. That's the same thing with Drake right now.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
But that was a ninety million dollar pay cut he
was poised to take to.

Speaker 9 (01:45:12):
Do that, to go Secon, to go Thirsdt, right, he
would have had to have killed.

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
That contract to get picked up off of a different
waiver stream to be able to come back and get
paid like a third string quarterback. He was like the
third or fourth highest paid contract in the NFL. And
they realized this is a terrible deal.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
I don't think he was done with football when he
did that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
I think he is something I thought that he thought
was going to matter, and he thought he would find
his way back to the stootball. Like I think Drake
is doing the same thing from an emotional place, but
he think he gonna find his way back to music.

Speaker 5 (01:45:48):
What would you do if one of your employees sued
you as they was.

Speaker 9 (01:45:53):
Working for you.

Speaker 7 (01:45:57):
The worst thing in the world, Like what even though,
even though I'm not gonna lie, even though my cousin
worked at the hospital, he got hit in the head.
He got hit in the head with some ship like
again a certainty room with some ship like that. You know,
it had like a gash and some ship Sue. Sue

(01:46:17):
was stayed out on fucking sickly because of the injury
and ship like that. Sue the hospital got his money
and then went back to work.

Speaker 4 (01:46:25):
And tell the reason why there's laws against like retributive termination,
you know over that I'm telling y'all again.

Speaker 8 (01:46:34):
Man, Okay, So where does he go after this? With
all the bad decisions? What's next?

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
I don't think he really made a bunch of bad decisions.
He just lost the battle this is the first bad decision.

Speaker 5 (01:46:51):
You don't think, you don't think fucking you know? They
telling me it's a bad decision.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
That's creatively a bad decision, that's not a bad like,
this is the first bad business decision I've seen him
make that's bad creatively for a battle, this is like
almost career suicide. But I think again, I think he's
either you know what, it's the same thing. He's over

(01:47:17):
rating himself. He don't quite realize what's happening. And I
know it seemed like he should because he made, you know,
hundreds and millions of dollars off of this.

Speaker 8 (01:47:26):
Shit at this point, So he didn't realize that he
was just the product. He thought he was the No,
we don't.

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
He do not think he just the product, of course
not nobody wants to ever believe that sort of wherewithal.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
Yes, there you go, that's the word. Wherewith the I think,
shout out to Amblewall. She said, just what I thought.
It's just his feelings are extremely hurt and confused about
not being like us. His last drop was dissing Lebron
For Christ's sake. He's but hurt, spiraling out of control.
It's all emotional.

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
I think we're looking at somebody whose feelings are so
hurt that they just need to try to get their
lick back.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
You ever been in a fight with somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
You ever been in a fight with somebody and they
fight you and they can't whoop you, but they just
want to hit you so bad, so it allows you
to hit him like twelve times because they just keep
trying to hit you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
And it's like, like I've had my shout out to
my little brother. He used to be like that. He
couldn't whoop me.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
To save his life, Vince and Uncle Vince, and he
couldn't whoop me. Ever, because I was good at fighting.
I was taller, longer, more coordinated, and he would try
to hit me and I would be whooping him, and
every time he'd just get so he wanted to lay
in one lick and it made him just become vulnerable
to every punch.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
This is homeboys in the hood, like different homies, like
you know, like they get so mad they can't win
that they just start running forward at you and it's
like now you're wide open. Here's a jab, here's a right,
here's a upper cut hook. Because you really not focused.
He's doing that right now corporately like he's like, he's

(01:49:07):
so I think this has to be the truth. He's
so fucked up and he's just running in like, ah,
believe it because he's rich or he's successful, or he's famous,
and it's like that still doesn't matter, Like he's just
that was.

Speaker 4 (01:49:22):
The thirteen tracks he put out that all flopped. I
think this is okay.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
I did that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Now I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
Look, we'll see, we'll see if he tries to put
out a song or a freestyle in the middle of this.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
I don't think he's done. I think he's been doing
it too long to be done.

Speaker 8 (01:49:48):
So you think he just don't know where to just
don't know where to from here.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
He just don't know what to do, like he don't
like like it seems like it's so simple for us,
but it's not simple for him, you know what I mean? Like,
how do you tell the motherfucker that's been winning all
of this time that, hey, you know what, be okay
with losing?

Speaker 3 (01:50:06):
How remember remind you he got pushing.

Speaker 8 (01:50:10):
Okay, but he don't go against the system that's helping
you in.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
Like ye, but you he's suing them because they're marketing
a song in a battle with him, Like.

Speaker 8 (01:50:24):
You don't like if that's the case, if you're trying
to get like the lawsuit is just super stupid now,
Like it just that analogy makes it even more though,
But think about the laws, would you?

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
Why would you think about the lawsuit?

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
It's dumb already, like he's saying, like, he tried to
get them to take down the song in July.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
It came out in me and you know what, this
song is causing me danger.

Speaker 8 (01:50:49):
Universe was like, what, yeah, but I heard that he
said it was anti semitic and some other stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
No, but I'm saying, way before this lawsuit, he reached
out to them, like look at how he's thinking. In May,
fourth the song comes out in July, he has his
counsel reach out like, hey, y'all need to get rid
of that song.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
It's causing me danger. They like, man, this song is
a smash hit record.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Remember it's on the song every day at this point,
it's on the radio every day in Canada, not just
here in Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
It's the number one song. So he's like, hey, you
know it's causing me harm.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
It's causing me mental stress and danger is coming to
my house because of this song.

Speaker 8 (01:51:28):
And they looking at the same system popular.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
But that doesn't even make every system. It makes everybody popular.
But she's still like this. They like, you want us
to do what they looking at him. This is a
huge record for them. This is their biggest record of
last year. They like, what we told you, don't go
into this battle. We told you go into this battle.

(01:51:55):
Now we got a smash hit record out of this battle.
Oh we're finn sell this motherfuck all this they money
last year. The record is gonna be diamond. And this
is what I was saying Friday. The record is going
to be diamond in less than a year. Universal is
not bailing out.

Speaker 8 (01:52:12):
Yeah, this coin.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
Money, This is real coin right here. They got an album.
They're like, oh hell yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:52:22):
But okay, so is he saying that that record that
he can still make up that money from that record
like him being who he is at the top.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
No, because the hit record is a hit record. This
is a once in a once in a decade type
of record. These records don't come often like that, you
know what I mean? Maybe the last one UMG had
from a rap perspective is probably like God's plan.

Speaker 8 (01:52:47):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
They don't have a lot of these records. A lot
of records they fluff up and build them all.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
Up, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:52:53):
They have to over promote them and overmarket them. You
know what I'm saying, Like they got a lot of stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:52:59):
I just realized, right we are. We've been so focused
on him trying to stop the super Bowl. No, he
don't want this nigga that want to Grammy being off
this ship. Yeah, but this does nothing but super Bowl. No,
the Grammy, the Grammy Academy was not. If he's by
him pushing this ship about the deformation and ship, the

(01:53:21):
GM Academy gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:53:22):
Be like, bro, nah, we can't get this man a gray.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
They're not going to listen. They're not going to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
Like I get the thought. I'm not mad at aught,
but they're not going to not do that right now.
They're going to rebel against his tyranny, like he's coming
across tyrannical, you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:53:41):
Think he thinks because of the numbers and because where
he's being on his last fifteen year run, and he
is he he thinks he the industry. He like I
made all this money.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
That's how he's talking. He's tyrannically looking at him letting UMG.
They looking at him talk shit about um G. They
looking at him talk shit about Lebron James Spotify. They're like, oh,
you think you really tyrannical? You're gonna just tell us
what to do and watch America buck. America is notoriously

(01:54:11):
good at bucking. If you play with them, they will
come together and buck. And that's what you see happening.
Nothing he's doing is going to stop this on. It's
actually only marketing what's happening. Yeah, the song is going
to be back in the top ten. I told y'all
this like something is going to happen to make this
song pop up every year for us.

Speaker 8 (01:54:34):
Did you did y'all record already about the the thing
said I sent you last night? You said you didn't
watch it because I was gonna record. Did you already record? No?

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
No, we're supposed to do it after.

Speaker 8 (01:54:46):
Okay, Dang, I want you to watch it because they
speak do it after the thing that you're saying. It
was kind of like, I'm like, I don't know, it's
crazy to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
It was crazy to hear it shout out to p
if your business partner turned on you, what you're supposed
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
They didn't turn on you, pee.

Speaker 8 (01:55:08):
But is that his business partner or is that his boss?

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
No that listen, they didn't turn on you. The rapper
turned on you. Their job is to market record. You're
not the only person signed to the record label.

Speaker 8 (01:55:23):
So I said that his business partner his boss.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
I'm saying it could be his business partner, whatever you want,
but you are not their only partner. They have multiple partnerships.
Like it don't stop with you, like, and what do
you want them to do? What do you really expect
Universal to do? You know what, Kendrick, you know what?

Speaker 5 (01:55:42):
This is too far.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
You just said this about his wife, his kids, and
it's this but this right here is too far.

Speaker 5 (01:55:49):
You need to f went too far?

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
Is effectively his customer. They're a wholesaler. Essentially, he's a producer.
He creates, and he has an exclusive contract with a
wholesaler in the form of Universal that then puts stuff
out to retail distributors of the like in the form
of Spotify and whatever else.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
He just can't sell to anybody else.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
It'd be like some manufacturer of mufflers having an exclusive
deal with Chrysler, only Chrysler can buy their mufflers.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
Shut out to revenge. This is called a conflict of interest.
Glasses he out of it. It's not a conflict of interest.
It's artistic, creative like, it's not a conflict. The NFL
don't work that way. They don't route, they don't root
for nobody. They push all the records. Whichever record jumps out,
that's what they market. That's like, because somebody else has

(01:56:45):
a number one song or your record is number nine,
you're like, well, they ain't push your minds. That's what
what are you talking about. That's not a conflict of interest.
That's why you don't get into battles. If you don't
want a battle, don't get into battles. You can't blame
you and for your dumb ass shit.

Speaker 8 (01:57:02):
True true, true, true true.

Speaker 3 (01:57:07):
They put his stuff out too, They put everybody's stuff out.
They just put out Snoop album. They don't fucking care.
Just they ship. They don't care about that.

Speaker 8 (01:57:18):
Well, a lot of people are thinking that Universal is
working off of feelings, and Universal is just business straight
business will makes sense for the business.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
It's crazy like that shit just weird, like like they
were supposed to go to him and say, hey, you
know what you need to take. We're gonna let you
say what you said in your record. But see what
we're gonna do for him is we're gonna stop what
he's saiding his record. It's just you, what are you doing?
That's why you don't battle with pt.

Speaker 8 (01:57:46):
Like he feels like maybe that he brings in the
most money, the most, the most ad. I broke all
the records, I did everything, like he feels like they
owe him. Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:57:58):
I said, somebody says have a day that Drake is
like responsible for singer and the league, like getting streaming
off the ground. You know what I'm saying, it's a
real ship. No that And then like when they were
saying it though it kind of made sense though too.
It was like he was like the he was the
one that is why Apple, That's why Apple gave him
a dail and all that ship. Like he was he
was launching, like like he made people like I want

(01:58:21):
to go over to streaming and leaven Hard copies a loan.
He was he was one of the front, like the
like the person who like they used his face as
the ship thought like that, and I kind of agree
with it, though too.

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
This is not true. It don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
They are supposed to promote everyone's record and it's not
an unless. It don't matter if it's detrimental to your
business partnership, it's not detrimental. Their job is they're a
record company. Their sole job is to promote records. They
cannot say we're not gonna promote this record. If you're

(01:58:58):
signed to a record company, what the fuck are y'all?
That's simple. The Big Mac is not more special than
a chicken nugget. The Big Mac is not more special
than the cheeseburger. They all McDonald's products. The Big Mac
can't get mad that it's the Chicken Nuggets week. To
make it happen, it's the chicken nuggets this week. They

(01:59:19):
carrying the show. Big Mac is late, the original. The
cheeseburger is the original bell of the ball, the simple cheeseburger.
It can't get mad that the Big Mac took over.
Big Man can't get mad that the cheeseburger took over.
When it's the micrib time of year. It's the McRib
time of year. You can't get upset that it's somebody

(01:59:41):
else's time.

Speaker 3 (01:59:42):
Don't fuck around if you don't want to fuck around,
don't fuck around, bro, don't fuck around.

Speaker 8 (01:59:55):
So do you think this is going to go to trial?

Speaker 5 (01:59:57):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (01:59:58):
No, I mean a no. I can't ship.

Speaker 5 (02:00:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:00:02):
These white folks surprised me every time he says it's
gonna be really tough.

Speaker 8 (02:00:13):
What does it look like?

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
All right, let me go through these super chats before
we bounce out of here on more time. Shout out
to Age, thank you for the five dollars, Yo, glasses,
I gotta ask what you think about Drake not allowing
PG lang outfits at his new concert out of concern
for safety.

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
I hope that's all. Don't seem like it's a lie.
It seemed like it's an official thing. But again it
goes into his ego being really messed up. This brings
me to the next super chat. Thank you, Trees, thank
you for the five dollars. My boy, bruse egos can
lead to your own death. That's what happened right now.

(02:00:54):
That's what's happening right now with Drake. And you're right,
it's true. It looks like that. Shout out the tree
He's Lord again for the five dollars. I think Drake
not dropping music because he doesn't know what to rap
about anymore. He can't rap about being number one anymore
or women in the same light. Of course he can't.
It was number one last year. He could come out
with a song right now and say I was a
number one stream artist in rap music for twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (02:01:17):
Of course he can shout out to na for sale
two six the Northwest.

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
What's up brother? Thank you for that five dollars. Drake
should have stuck to his comeback season so far gone persona.
I feel like the industry empowered is faked tough image.

Speaker 8 (02:01:31):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
I think hip hop grants people access into culture that
they wouldn't have without it. And I think he loved
the camaraderie of it all, the respect of it all,
and he just was greedy. Now he got too deep
and it's tough. Shout out to cam thank you for
the five dollars. I am praying for Kendrick. I wish
Drake would go away. I'm praying for Kendrick too, but
I don't care if Drake go anywhere. He don't got

(02:01:53):
to go anywhere. I don't care Shout out to Michael Love.
Thank you for the ten Digital soap Box Network members.
We appreciate those ten. My boy always Love. Shout out
to Michael Love again, thank you for that five dollars.
If a like is a platinum record, a membership is
a platinum album.

Speaker 3 (02:02:11):
My man.

Speaker 1 (02:02:15):
Shout out to p UMG stay out of it. Distribute,
but don't promote. We call this a sport. Lot a lot,
third party and one of one shouldn't be acceptable. What
are you talking about? So then then, what do you
feel about the record they promoted for him?

Speaker 8 (02:02:35):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (02:02:35):
Man, he's Drake fans man.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
I'm telling you, man, tell shout out to revenge. At
some point we can't be so biased. I am not
biased that you think Drake is only committing suicide. I'm
not being biased. That's just logically in the history of
the move he's pulling that says it's suicide.

Speaker 3 (02:02:58):
That's not what's happening. There's an end go.

Speaker 1 (02:03:00):
I'm not saying I'm on Drake's side or agreed with it,
but be fit for real critical thinking. I am critical
thinking with knowledge of the music business. Michael Jackson did it.
It was suicide. Prince did it it was suicide. They
don't come back, and they did it.

Speaker 3 (02:03:19):
For real reasons, reasons you you're not going to win this.
They don't.

Speaker 1 (02:03:24):
They're not cheating anybody like they can. You can only
win if they cheat you out of money. You can't
win because somebody else that you're competing with that's going
to pop up in court.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
It's saying, hey, this is how we're competing. Like again,
if it was a logical point, I'd be in like,
it don't make sense to me, Like, oh, don't promote
this one record, just distribute the records.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
What are you talking about? It's a smashy record. What
are they in the business of just distributing music for free?
Now they're trying to make records huge? Like what are
y'all thinking?

Speaker 8 (02:03:58):
Dog?

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
Like, this ain't the first time two people that were
signed to major distribution companies or record companies Beef before.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
Beef same record company. Death Jam was with Island. Island
was with U m G. That was with fifty Like
what are y'all doing? This ain't something new? This ain't
something new.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Last one Revenge, watch how this shake out? Drake gonna
close out of court with a win?

Speaker 3 (02:04:23):
Zero time? This is zero, I gotta stop.

Speaker 5 (02:04:32):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (02:04:35):
Yeah, like you, I want I want the best for him,
but I also want him to do what's best for him.

Speaker 8 (02:04:46):
The worst thing for Drake because you know they coming
with you, about to come with every single last spot,
about to come with everything.

Speaker 3 (02:04:53):
And the worst part is if they start to investigate
what actually happened, like your house get shot up, like
you could turn on some people. That can create a problem,
like stop doing it because you're playing that. Stop.

Speaker 4 (02:05:09):
That's why I think this is settlement oriented, because discovery
cuts both ways once you get started.

Speaker 8 (02:05:15):
Yeah, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
Man, it's gonna keep marketing this song, like imagine reading it.
Imagine they playing this whole civil court on TV and
they reading those lyrics out loud. That shit gonna keep
that song so popped in. That song will be two
times down by the end of the year.

Speaker 8 (02:05:34):
Somebody said, Trap, what's your Twitter handle? Where can they
find you?

Speaker 9 (02:05:38):
Trap? Brash short, Trap, Do you have a Twitter?

Speaker 4 (02:05:46):
I still haven't been able to get signed into the
one Squish made. I've tried all the passwords, like fifty
times a piece, maybe twenty times, but I can't get
signed in. I don't know how it's going multiple devices,
multiple browsers, multiple app stores.

Speaker 3 (02:05:59):
No luck.

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
How is that They can't just block you out if
you don't think it's blocked something.

Speaker 4 (02:06:06):
Either the password, things got said, the mattresses, something didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:06:09):
Work out there, or what I need to do is
send you a phone that already got your Twitter hand
doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:14):
I just got a brand new phone that's not linked
to anything, but it's new.

Speaker 4 (02:06:17):
Everything like it's new, brand new, out the box, different profile,
different everything, no number attached to it, nothing. It is
clean as a whistle. It's something something didn't match with
the password or something like that, two.

Speaker 8 (02:06:29):
Steps back or whatever. Because that's what got me locked out.
I can't get in.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
Shout shout out to revenge. I'm the only guy in
the room who doesn't feel the ones no revenge. You're hopeful,
and I think that's great to be hopeful, but it's
it's he's not gonna win his lawsuiter.

Speaker 8 (02:06:47):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:06:47):
It's not that I don't want him to.

Speaker 1 (02:06:48):
That could be one thing, but he's not gonna win
it because they're gonna look at what's happening.

Speaker 3 (02:06:53):
The evidence is not going to give him credits. It's
just not gonna work that way. I'm not biased.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
I'm not a fan of either.

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
He don't even want to talk about it, but uh anyway,
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