January 23, 2024 • 62 mins
Brian is back in the accountant's corner this week with returning favorite, Angela Kinsey! The long-time friends share stories about the time they unknowingly met at a Señor Frog's, tips for getting an internship in New York City, their big TV show pitch to Telemundo, and the conclusion (and exciting future) of Angela's Office Ladies podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But you know, I guess, I guess this is just
what do you call that public announcement to Hollywood. I'm
sure they're listening to me. If you if you need
a bitch, don't ask me to read for it. Just no,
I can do it. No, I can deliver. Hi. My
(00:22):
name is Angela Kinzie and I can bat right and
left handed.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You're a distrous that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So when you need your you know, weekend softball team.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, you're a writ ye me up. You're a switch hitter.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm a switch hitter.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't think that applies.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm a switch hitter.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hello everyone, and welcome to another delightful episode of Off
the Beat. You are listening to the malifluous, harmonious, the
dulcet sounds of me, your host, Brian Baumgartner. Guys, I'm
sorry to disappoint you. I couldn't get a guest for today,
so I just asked my friend to join me. Her
(01:07):
name is Angela. I know you probably don't know her.
She's she's an actor. She's got blonde hair, small frame,
played an accountant on the show about a paper company.
And it doesn't matter. She's my friend and we're going
to have a little chat. Oh oh, you know her. Well,
if you know her, you're going to love this episode.
(01:27):
In addition to some office talk, Angela and I are
going to talk about her childhood in Indonesia, her comedy training,
her cooking prowess, and of course, her award winning podcast
Office Ladies, which she hosts with our other friend Jenna Fisher.
(01:47):
You might not know her, She's all right, you probably
know her. Without further ado, I am so excited to
have on my next guest, which needs no introduction, Angela Kinsey.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeakna, Bubble
and Squeak. I cook it everymore. Lift over from the
night people, Happy New Year.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
What's happening, body, what's happening? How are you?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I'm good? Oh my god, look at you? Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I got the green Bay shirt on today. I've got
I've got the glasses on. I'm experimenting with glasses. Angela.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
What's the experimentation? Do you need them or not?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Wow, no, my my brain says, I don't my eyes.
That's a crazy say I that I do that. It's
very helpful.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I remember going to the eye doctor when I was.
I think I was like forty four, and and I
was kind of squinting at things, and he goes, how
old are you about? Like forty six? I was like,
how dare you? He goes, it's time like clockwork.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's so crazy, that's what they say. It's like forty
six is when it starts.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, Well, I don't know. We'll see. I just got them. Well,
we'll experiment, we'll try.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I don't know. It seems unnecessary.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I mean I'm seeing the office, lots of office ladies,
things behind you.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Are you at home? Are you in your studio?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
This is my closet.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Your closet, I know, I see on the Instagram.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And they set it up for me. So it's got
this you know, the soundproofing stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Me too, see my sound proofing stuff of ownness.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And then I you know me, Brian, I love a
little chatchkey level. So if if people send me stuff,
I hang it on the wall behind me. Basically, oh yeah,
so send me something, I'll hang it on the wall.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's nice of you. You're so nice, Angela. That's what
everyone says.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Do they really?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, they they do. Can I tell you?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I am a real like I have really taken a
turn on small talk. Oh, like a turn like down,
like I'm not good at it anymore. We were just
at the.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Weather is beautiful today, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Are you no stopping it? I feel for your stupid
small talk. I'm like, wait, is it? I like looked
out the window.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I was at my son's you know, winter concert the
other night, and this parent was like, how's it going,
and I, you know, when I blurted out, oh, our minivan,
I guess something's up with the axle. This is a.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Parent barely know.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They looked at me like, why.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Are you telling me about your mini me? I? I, well,
you know what's so funny? Not forty five minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I just had a small talk exchange with someone who
came to my house to do a little work, and
it was out how to. I don't think he's a
big fan, so I don't think he's going to hear this.
You know, it was this, Hey, I heard I was
coming to your house and you're my friend's favorite character.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Thank you. I don't really watch television. Are you still
shooting that show The Office? No?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
No, we no, we're done with that. Yeah, he told
me about something about chili. Yeah, that was that was me.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That was me. That was me. So what what are
you working on now? I mean literally, it just kept
going and going right in front of the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
At any point in your day, you can have a
full on interview by some students.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Right it was. That's how the end.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Of it usually makes you feel shitty about yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I know, yeah, that's how it ended.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, well, anyway, I don't watch television, but I think, oh,
actually the last thing he said was but I think
I saw you play poker once. Oh great, yea, yeah,
that was that was probably me, probably me back in
twenty twelve. Anyway, Well, here's the thing. Now, I'm good
(06:33):
to ask you all these kinds of questions. So that's fun,
really fun.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It's so fun to interview someone you know and you
know the answers.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
To well yeah, and so like like like me, I
feel like everyone knows your story at least, even if
they don't know you, they know your story.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
They probably saw you play poker once on television. But
there are a few things my research team did or
I actually did not fully know.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
They found some nooks and crannies.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well I don't even know how Nooki and cranny it is,
you're gonna get nookied.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
No, there were a couple of things I didn't know.
I mean, first off, you grew up in Jakarta.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I did.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's a city in Indonesia. I've heard you speak Indonesian
many times. Bahasa bahassa, Bahasa. Okay, yeah, you speak Bahasa.
Have you heard this phrase third culture kid?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yes? I have.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So, I mean for those of you who haven't, I'm
glad you have because I hadn't. Actually what this refers
to our people that they have this third culture right
There's so you have your sort of home culture you're
moved overseas, then you have the culture that you're living
in there, and those two together kind of make this
(07:57):
third culture. Does that resonate for you? Do you feel
like that's how you grew up?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
For sure, for sure. You know, we had this young
gal right in to office Ladies my podcast who was
also a third culture kid, and you do you you know,
you're sort of fish out of water everywhere, so you're
not quite part of the culture where you grew up.
And then when you go back to what would be
your home culture, you're don't you don't quite fit in
(08:26):
there either, And I think it's why a lot of
kids that went to international schools wherever they are, they're
all over right. They really bond with each other and
they stay in touch. My school, Jakarta International School, is
having their reunion at the end of this month. They
picked different cities and it's going to be in Los
Angeles this year. So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh, going to go.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'm going to go.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's super cool.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'm super excited. My sister has been to many and
you just you it's a it's like a club. You're
not in until you're in it, you know, and then
it's special to you to sort of connect with other people.
And the other thing about growing up in another country too,
when you move back to wherever it was you're from.
(09:12):
At least for me when I was a kid, because
I am one hundred years old, so this was the seventies,
and I lived in Indonesia all through the seventies and
into the early eighties, and in the mid eighties I
moved back to the US. And you when you said
goodbye to people, you just said goodbye. There was no internet,
there was I'm not I'm going to text you. It
was snail mail. It was like, oh okay, and then
(09:33):
you would have a friend or two, like I had
a friend Kate Livingston in Australia. Kate, Oh my gosh,
if you hear this, please like, I would love to
talk to you. We wrote for years and then my
letters started coming back because I guess they had moved
and I don't know how to find Kate.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I don't know where she is Livingston. Reach out to Angela.
She wants to hear from you.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Kate.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Sarah remember and Kate. They're from Australia and Kate, you
would make front of your sister Sarah because she had freckles,
and you'd be like, I fly, just shed all of
you face. Sarah, do you remember?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I don't remember, but hopefully she does. I would look,
I want to make a connection. Well, I was going
to ask you if so it seems like not. So
there's no one that you're still in contact with. Oh yeah, lots,
Oh they are, yeah, okay, Kate, not.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Kate, but my friend Carnsa and I we text all
the time and share pictures and I have a few
friends that we used to do a yearly meet up.
It's kind of harder now because everyone has kids and stuff.
But it's, you know, such a fond, fond chapter of
my life.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Have you been back?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I have been back in my twenties, but I haven't.
But then, you know, then we got the office, and
that was my whole thirties, Brian, my whole thirties.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I know.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And you know what when people like see you out
in the world now, I don't know how is for you,
but they look at me and they're like, you're not thirty.
I'm like new, I am met. It's shocking to them.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's I know that you don't still look the same.
I know.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I yeah, I was, I was. I did not remember
if you had been back. So it's been since you're
not since your twenties.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, you've been back.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I want to go back again, but it's you know,
it's just harder.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Jakarta has somewhere around seven million people. Yeah, and you
returned back to the United States and settle. I guess
I don't know if I thought the word you settle
in Archer City, Texas, where there's fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think there's.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Eighteen hundred now, Brian, I think I'm talking about at
the time, I just drove through in the population sign
said eighteen hundred and my mom said, oh, that's way off.
So I don't know, I don't really know where it stands.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
There's more, thinks there's more.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And there were a few raised eyebrows on the car
that might not just might disagree. My dad was a
drilling engineer, but he was from the small town in Texas.
And when we were transferred back stateside, we were transferred
to Dallas. Brian Dallas in the eighties was carezy. Wow,
(12:21):
it was crazy. People were like my first day, my
first day of school, there was a girl sitting next
to me. Her name was Bobby Bobb. I this is
in Dallas because we were there a year. We had
like a transition year. My dad was before. My dad
was like, let's get out of Dallas, let's go back
to the farm. But Bobby had a patch on her eye,
(12:44):
just one eye. And you know, I was trying to
make a friend. I'm new and I said, oh, I said,
do you have pink eye. I'm trying to think what's
the patch about. And she goes, oh, I got eye
on her tattoo, my alid and it's infected. And we
were fourteen I was like, Dallas is like a whole other.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Animal here, Bobby, if you're listening, reach out to Angela.
She wants to connect. She wants to connect with you. Bobby,
b bbe I.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Bobby was very nice to me.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So, and I'm sure her eye is better.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's probably better. Now was this moving? Well?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
So you spend a year in Dallas and Dallas is
a big city. It's not seven million, certainly not at
the time, not even close. Talking about that third culture
kid thing. Now you're back in this culture archer city
so small? Was this difficult for you?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh my gosh. Well, let's let's start with Dallas. Because
Dallas was my first entry back into the States and
people didn't know what to do with me. They had
no idea what box to put me in. I you know,
a lot of them had never heard of Jakarta, and
I was also.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I hadn't either until I met you buy.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You stop it. I'm like, you stop it. I was
so Also coming back from my school in Indonesia to
the US, I was ahead and four subjects, so I
started my day. Dallas is very very you know, the
school system is very big. So you have middle school,
which is just like seventh and eighth grade or seventh,
eighth and ninth and then you have a high school
(14:27):
that's like ten, eleven, twelve, And where I was, it
was a huge school district. So I went to the
middle school for half the day. Then my mom picked
me up at lunch. I ate lunch in the car
with my mom as she drove across town to the
high school. The high school with ten eleventh and twelfth graders,
(14:48):
and I finished the day there. So I was never
at the middle school for after school extracurriculars. I was
never there for pep rally. I was never there for anything.
And then at the high school and I wasn't I
didn't eat lunch with anyone. Ate lunch with my mom
in the car. That's awful, awful, awful. And now think
about fourteen year old me. I think I weighed seventy pounds. Yeah,
(15:10):
and I looked I was just a bean pole. And
also Indonesia, I didn't wear a lot of makeup. I
didn't do my hair, and this was prime Texas, big hair,
and I had straight hair, not a lot of makeup,
you know. And my mom said that, and I remember this,
I would cry all the way to school, and then
my mom would drop me off and she would cry
(15:32):
all the way drive back home. I know a way
to take a third story to make everybody said it
was a really, really difficult year. And sure at the
high school, tenth and eleventh and twelfth graders, there were
only three of us, three students that were not tenth,
eleventh and twelfth. It was me and a young fella
(15:53):
from Pakistan. And then there was a gal and I
forget where she was from, but you know we were
all third culture kids.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, And you know who was the nicest to me
at the school. And I never even smoked pot, Brian,
I don't you know. I don't smoke marijuana. The stoner
kids were the nicest. They were like they were like
Jakarta man, sounds cool, can talk. They were the nicest.
And I would, I would, that's who at the high school.
(16:25):
That's who would like, chat me up. So shout out
to nice stoner kids.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Shout out just nice stoner kids.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Shout out Pakistani kid, if you're there, please so nice.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
She was so nice to you, I would, yes. And
then the gal, I didn't know because she was in
a different program than I was in but I just
knew of her. I knew there were three of us.
And then the other thing was then we moved to
Archer City, and I mean I went from a five
(16:58):
a public school, you know, that's like the high school
I was at, and Dallas looks like a community college
to a to a high school. So I graduated with
thirty four. Oh my goodness, that's yeah, and talk about
they didn't know what to make of They were like,
who is this lady coming in here? And I loved it.
(17:23):
I ended up loving it. I hit that point where
I was like, we had moved. I'd moved so many times.
I was new to two schools in one year, you know,
because I was new to the middle school and the
high school. Right by the time I got to Archer City,
I kind of have what the kids call the zero
f's about everything, and I think I just went in
there with that bravado and then it was a blast
(17:46):
and I loved it.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Oh that's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I also am told and I'm asking more in terms
of you acclimating or getting to know other students. I mean,
it sounds like Dallas was a disaster anyway, but that
you didn't have a television, No, until you moved back
to the States. Yeah, so again, like, well, it's I mean,
(18:10):
it's still the same today. It may be about video games,
or it may be about sports, or you know, still
some entertainment, some of those cultural touchstones that just help you.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Really. I mean, now you and I know, like there's.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
A whole group of people who are friends because of
the office, that communicate in the office language, that talk
about episodes, that quote episodes that you know that that's
part of their cultural identity. You come back, you don't know,
not just Sesame Street or mister Rogers, but you know
(18:48):
shows by the time you're fourteen that your parents are
watching The Cosby Show or you know, I don't I
can't date you specifically at that moment. My brain's not
that good, but I feel like that's what I was watching,
you know, early on in the eighties. Maybe I'm wrong,
but you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, was that
difficult for you to sort of make that adjustment? And
(19:09):
there must have been times when you just didn't know
what the hell anybody was talking.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
About all the time. Yeah, all the time. I didn't
know what people were talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I didn't know the first Bueller's day off. That would
be one that would have been for me.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh I saw it.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I saw that. I thought it was so good. I
was so excited. I like kind of went on a binge,
like I would just like watch everything. But I mean
I didn't know what a soap opera was, and there
were girls talking about soap operas and talking about, oh, Marlena,
days of our lives there, and I'm like, who's Marlena?
What's happening? Sounds like things aren't going so good for hook,
(19:46):
you know. I'm like, oh, no, there's and John Black,
he's back. What happened to him? So there was all
these references I didn't understand for a long time. Still
every once in a while, well because there's big chapters.
I had never seen a Brady Bunch episode, never seen one,
you know. And then also when I started doing improv,
(20:09):
sometimes I would walk out into a scene and a
pop cultural reference would come up and I would have
no idea. Someone said to me, someone said something about
the green hornet one time, and I was like, I'll
have another, please like shaken nutstood, thank you very much,
And everyone was like record scratch and they're like, who
is this person?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
That's when you just start talking Indonesian. Yeah, that's just.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Really I know, Mahsakali. It's like, I'm sorry, I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Did your parents speak Indonesian?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
By the way, my mom more than my dad. And
then my older sister is still very fluent in it. Okay,
she went back there and lived later in life. So
and then my sisters and I just have a little
shorthand where just enough so I speak it better than
(21:03):
my other two sisters. And so because there's four of us,
but we have enough of a shorthand that we can
talk about someone at the mall, you know, like if
there's a lady at the mall, we can say why
to leeha. That's how my sisters speak it with a
Southern accent. They love when I do this impression of them,
just kidding. They don't, but yes, they put a lot
(21:26):
of extra vowels.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You and I I'm trying to remember when we have
told this story, if we've told the story public.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I have been trying to like brainstorms since you reached
out and we're like, and you want to come on,
I'm like, what is he going to bring up? What
I've been trying to like think, well, I know a
few I know a few stories.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Well, we have to bring up the fact that you
and I had met before we met on the set
of the Office.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
This is bonkers. This is bonkers. This is how when
life just like circles back on you. Do you remember
the day we figured it out? We were on set, Yes,
and you guys all know me and Brian and Oscar
I would say, of the whole entire cast, are nook
back there? I think we spent the most concentrated time together.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, you know, because we were in the corner. We
were in the corner and we could put baby in
the corner.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
They put baby in the corner. They put the idiots
in the corner.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, we were on set one day. How did it
come up?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I don't remember. I mean I think it came up.
So guys, Uh, Angela went to Baylor.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
For some reason.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
No Sicken bears, Sick and bears.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
No reason. I went to SMU in the aforementioned Dallas,
which was not the same by the time I got
there that it was in the eighties. And we started
talking and she knew some people.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
We started talking about spring breaks, isn't how it came outarted.
I feel like we were like I said something about
I am telling you, Brian, we were talking about spring
break because we were about to go on hiatus, and
I said something. We were talking about places we'd been,
and I mentioned that I went to Acapuco in college,
and you said, I went to talk about we went to.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
In college and ire around and then.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You said, yeah with with like a bunch of guys
from SMU. And I said, I met a bunch of
guys from SMU And You're like, these guys were fight
outs and I was like they were fight out.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yes, I mean, I don't even want to call it
a relationship. You were hanging out for a brief period
of time with someone that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
A little spring break.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Okay you. I wasn't going to go to any specifics.
But while we're at it, what exactly happened? No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Oh, it was very innocent, no real but we just
hung out. We we sort of just like hung out
for spring break.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, And anyway, we found out this is insanity that
Angela and I not only did we go to Senior
Frogs together, we were in the same van cave.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
We were in the same car to go to some
club on the hill. I don't know he has some wee.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, I met one of you, one of the one
of your friends. I won't say his name, right, I'm
still in touch with by the way, still friends.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Reach out today, don't still friends, still friends.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
He's lovely because you know, Brian, I'm like, once you're
in my life, you're in my life forever. So I
hope that if you meet me anyway. So we met
at the hotel, and then his group of friends I
guess you weren't with them at that moment invited us
to dinner to senior Frogs. Yeah, and we all went
in this van to seen your frogs. You and I
(25:13):
sat at a dinner table together, except it was like
a table for like sixteen people.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, it was enormous and we weren't at.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The same side table. But then we all piled into
this van and went to some nightclub. Brian, it blew
our mindset day because we literally were like, I went
takapuco I was, I went to see your frogs. They
were like, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I know, I mean the fact that is so, I mean,
I don't know I wish there was some like specific
memory that we could pull back.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
But anyway, we were, I mean, we were.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
In a van and akapugo together. That's pretty amazing. And
when we discovered this over in the corner of accounting,
we lost our minds and we got fussed at do
you remember they were like they were like, hey, we're
trying to film a TV show over here, Like John
Krasinski was like, what the heck's going? And then you
and I are.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Like, we were in a van.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
We met ten years ago or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I mean at that point it had been that long
that long or longer before. Yeah, yeah, and had never
run into each other that we know of. I mean,
we could have been in a van in La too.
But that is so crazy when so that's a long
story to say you went to be a long story.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
That's a long story to say though, that we our
lives keep criss crossing, which I think is.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Fun that that is true.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
But when you were at Baylor, did you have the
thought that what you're doing, that this is what you
wanted to do with your life.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
No, I wasn't doing what I thought i'd be doing.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
No, I know you were studying English.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, I was an English major, but I was a
creative writing major, okay. And I always knew always that
I wanted to write characters for my self, Okay, So
that's what I wanted to do. And I my mom
was very specific that she wanted me to go to
a private religious college in the state of Texas. This
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is very specific because A.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Qualifies.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Okay, But so I am the youngest of four girls,
and my three older sisters had all gone to college
and dropped out and then gone back to school and
got their degrees, and my mom had sort of seen
how hard that was on them later in life. And
so my mom was determined that I was not going
to go to a big state school. I was not
going to go to a party school. And so she
(27:43):
like kind of gave me a list. Here's your list
in Texas, lady, if you want us to help out
with college. And then and and I went, and I
toured Baylor. It is beautiful. The campus is beautiful. I
had such a great time there. I loved him, Brian
and Baylor is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's beautiful where Baylor is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Hey, Chip and Joanna Gains are going to come after you.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Chip, and Joanna come come join me. What was the
moment for you where you said I'm all in?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Well? I uh, well, Brian, here here's how it went.
I graduated from Baylor. I got a job. I was
offered a job at a publishing house, a little small
independent publishing company there in Waco. And my dad was like, fantastic,
and I was like, no, no, no, no, this is
not I want to perform. And they're like, you want
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to what But of course they knew that. But that
is not the degree I got. I didn't get a
degree in drama and theater. So I sort of had
always had this plan that I would go. I wanted
to go to New York and I wanted to work
on a late night talk show. I was obsessed with
David Letterman. I used to record David Letterman ready for this,
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this is going to date me. I would watch David
Letterman and I would get remember the tape recorders that
were like long and flat, like a rectangle, and you
would hit eject and put the tape line. I would
hold that up and I would record his opening monologue
in front of the TV. In front of the TV,
and I would learn. I would like like practice his
opening monologue and like study the beats of how he
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would tell it. I was obsessed, and so I graduate
from Baylor. I don't take the job. I moved back
in with my parents. O MG. My dad was like,
what the heck is going home? We just payed for
you this great education. And I wanted to intern in
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New York. So I had no connections. My family has
no connections in entertainment. And so I found a phone number.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Thank god.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I don't even know how I got this phone number. Literally,
I think I bought one of those books, you know,
like a kind of like a Backstage West kind of book,
and I found all the talk shows and stuff, and
there there was like a one eight hundred number that
you could call, like a phone number you could call
for NBC Rockefeller Center in New York. So you call
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the number, you get the main switchboard, and this woman's like,
how can I direct you? And I said, I'm calling
about internships. She's like, great, let me transfer you. And
then she transfers you and you get this automated message
that's like leave your name and information, someone will call
you back. So I called and I did this for
a few weeks and I would just go to this
(30:40):
thing and no one would call me back, and I
was getting so fed up, and my parents were like,
are you going to get a job? And I'm like,
oh my god. So then one day I called and
the woman answers, how may I direct you? And I said,
I was just talking to a woman in internships and
I got disconnected and she said, oh, do you mean
Nancy And I said yes, yes, I mean Nancy really
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and then she was like, let me connect you connects me.
This woman answers the phone, Hi, this is Nancy. I said, Hi,
I'm calling about internships. She said how did you get
this phone number? And I said I lied, I've been
calling for weeks and I lied, and they transferred me
to you, and she goes, okay, can you be here Monday?
And this was like a Thursday. I said I sure can,
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and she was like, great, I have two internships available.
One is in the news department and one is on
a new talk show called Conan O'Brien that no one
had heard of and no one was watching at the time.
And I said, great, I'll be there. I hang up
the phone and I'm like at the phone like in
the kitchen you know with the.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Longer city and now you have to be in New York.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, on a Thursday, and I literally yell, Mom, I'm
going to New York. I have to go to New York.
She's like, what are you talking about? And then I
told her this and she was like, no, she can't
go to New York. I was like, Mom, I'm gonna
go sell my car. She's like what, and then she's like, Bill,
get in here, and I was like, this is my dream.
I was like, I cannot stay here. If I stay here,
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everything you love about me is going to wither. This
is what I want to do. And so I sold
my car. Brain my dad got me a car and
he wanted to teach me responsibilities. He put it in
my name and I had to pay for everything, you know,
insurance and whatnot. This was like part of my thing.
And I sold the car and I used that money
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to move to New York. And my dad one day
was like, probably shouldn't have put that title in your name.
But they definitely knew how serious I was. So I
guess that's a long long answer to tell you. I
knew I was all in.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I knew I was. I mean when I graduated college,
I think I was kind of, you know, in college,
thinking like, yeah, that's what I want to do. Am
I going to do it or not? And then then
finally it was push come to shove, and I was like,
if I'm going to do it, I have to do
it now.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I love I love that and you telling your parents
what you love about me? Will die if I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I won't be who I am if I don't do this.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
One of the tidbits I did not know, so I've
I've known forever you were an intern on Con O'Brien.
I didn't realize that you specifically worked for Max Weinberg.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yes, yes, again, do you have.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
A relationship with him? No? Currently? No, No, Okay, it
didn't go so well.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Well, I don't know. It was just an internship. It's
just whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I mean he's he's particular, Okay, but he was totally fine.
I once again, I stretched the truth a tiny bit, Brian, Okay, Okay,
I applied.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I got the in you told me what to s
m U.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I got the internship on Connin O'Brien, and I just
was put into the general intern pool and there were
writers interns, and the writer's interns got to be in
the writer's room. There were interns. There was a music
intern that got to be in the studio. Well, I
wanted to be, to quote Hamilton, in the room where
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it happened. And the general intern pool was not it.
You were just constantly going and getting people coffee or
just running making copies for them, stuff like that. And
all of a sudden, while I was interning a position
for Max's intern, the music intern came available, and so
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I went to the executive producer, Jeff Ross, not the
comedian you guts, this is a different person, different Jeff Ross,
and I was like, Hey, can I apply for that
music intern? I'm sure He's like what is this kid doing?
Because like why, first of all, why is she coming
into my office? Like I'm the executive producer. Shouldn't she
go tell the people who run the intern program. And
(34:54):
so I, you know, went to interview for it, and
they were like, tell us, you know, what do you
know about me music? Do youd let me? I was like, everything,
love music, It's my life. And for anyone that knows
me knows that I know three words to any song.
I don't know the full song. I don't know who
sang it, I don't know what album it's on, I
don't know the musical instrument I know. I'm like, I'm
(35:16):
the worst on a road trip. I'm the worst because
I know five words to the song you like and
I'm going to get them wrong. And somehow they were
like okay. And then the first day they were like,
we need you to go to sir. You know, Max
wants his drumsticks and he wants this, and there's this,
and there was a list of all of these instruments
and things that I had never even heard of, and
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I had to go to this place called sir.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What's that stand for.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Studio instrument rentals?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I think, oh, but I.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Learned from one band that they didn't think it was
the best one and they called it shit in road cases.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's what I learned.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
But anyway, all of a sudden, I'm getting on and
I just went into the guy into the office of
this place, and I had this list and I said, hey,
I lied to get this internship. I don't know what
this is.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Can you help me?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
And it turns out when you're really honest, sometimes people
are like, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, Oh my gosh. That good for you though, That
showed initiative. Yeah right, and it got you in the room.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It got me in the room. And then I got
to be there when everything was happening that I wanted
to see, when Conan was practicing his monologue and when
Andy Richter and him were doing stuff, and it just
that's where I wanted to be. I wanted to be
right there.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I love that. I love that story.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
And and full circle moment. Years later, I got to
be a guest on Conan O'Brien. That was my first
real full life circle moment with the band with Max
that I used to be their intern.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Did you talk to him when you were there? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, I was like, hey, yeah, oh my gosh. I
was so excited. And Jimmy Vavino, who was always so
nice to me, and La Bamba the guy, the whole
band was great. Then I got to be on David
Letterman and I was like, I could not hold a
thought in my head. I couldn't even reconcile the fact
that this kid that would stand in front of this
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TV with her tape recorder and record this person I
was now sitting on the sofa talking to him. I was, Oh,
my gosh, full circle life moment.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's so cool.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I love that, and that that was what you wanted
to do, Yeah, to make it better.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That's incredible. I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Thanks Bud.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I don't know if you guys know.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Angela Kinsey starred as Angela Martin in a television show
called The Office for ten years, nine seasons.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah. Really, that's all I had to say about that.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
We've talked to Angela in the past. You could go
back and hear everything she has to say about The Office.
I don't really want to talk about that time except
to ask you a question that I get asked a
lot post Office. How difficult has it been for you
to separate yourself from the role of Angela Martin? And
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and is that even important to you at all?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
You mean when I'm going out for other jobs.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, for other projects, or just being perceived in terms
of your work now.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well, I definitely had a series of jobs after The
Office where people just wanted me to be like a
slight different shade of Angela Martin, just kind of a
bitchy person, right, And I did have a moment where
I was like, hey, I have done that for a
long time, and I'm ready to do something new. And
I got to do a few really fun characters. I
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loved playing the mom and tall girl.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, and tall girl too.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
And tall girl too, she's still tall. I played. That's
my that's my tagline, my tagline, thank you, it's it was,
you know. I got to be in all these great
scenes with Steve's on and the young actors were so
great too, and so I loved. I was like, oh,
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I can be kind of like a little bit of
that ditsy, self absorbed mom of a certain age that
loves her white wine. Just not that different maybe than
who I am in real life. Closer low closer. So
I had a good run at doing that too, and
that was fun. But one of my favorite things recently
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was there was a show coming out and they reached
out to me about a role and it was a
producer that's done a lot Brian. You would know, said producer,
and I've never worked with him before, but they said,
we would like her to come in an audition for
the role of this woman who's kind of uptight. She's
(39:59):
personally she doesn't really have anything nice to say about anyone,
you know, and I had this moment Brian where I said, no, no,
here's the thing. I did that, and I did it
really well for nine years. So if you want that,
I can give that to you, no problem. So my
audition is seasons one through nine.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Of the Job fucking tape. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I was like, I was like, I want you to
go to at the time Netflix and watch any episode
of the Office and let me know if I got
the job.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Okay, thanks, yeah, good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, that's what I said. I go any And then
I told my I told my agent. I said, if
anyone calls and asks me if I will come in
and read for them to be the bitch, will you
just forward them a link to the Office seasons one
through nine. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I'm done with that.
And that's I think that's part of being in your fifties.
There's some things you're just done with. Yeah, I'm done
(40:59):
with you. I'm done with nonsense. I can play the bend.
We know this, now do this.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yes, and and yeah. That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's not ego. It's no, it's it's it's not like,
oh I I Am not going to come and audition
or read for you. But it's like the conversation that
I have with with my representatives is basically like, dude,
they know right now whether they want me or not,
Like it's it's it's done. Like they don't have to
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hire me. They're they may be looking for a different
color or a different whatever. But if it's if the
role is in a specific window that that aligns with
what I have done or you have done over many
many years.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Let's not waste each other's time.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Let's not waste each other.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Let's not waste each other's time.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Exactly. That's what I'm saying. If it is something I've
never done before, or you haven't seen, or I haven't
done that particular character, I am so happy to come
in an audition. I like to work on a scene.
I like to go in. But you know, I guess,
I guess this is just what do you call that
public announcement to Hollywood? I'm sure they're listening to me.
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If you if you need a bitch, don't ask me
to read for it. Just no, I can do it.
No I can deliver.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
You mentioned tall girl. Is that your favorite role since
the office You've had a lot hater's back off.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yes, I loved Wives. Oh my gosh, Wives so fun.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Impress me. I mean, what, what what is your favorite
or what? How about this? Here's a different What is
the work that you're the most proud of that you
have done since the Office?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Well? You know, I feel like there's moments where you
just get to really stretch yourself a little. And definitely
in Hater's back off that character, there was a real
sadness to her even though it was a comedy, and
I loved sort of dipping into that and I loved
I loved tall Girl. And I had this recurring character
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on Fresh Off the Boat that was really fun. But
recently Pam Adlon reached out to me and said, Hey,
it's the final season of Better Things and I have
this little cameo and but I'm going to write you
this great monologue and will you come do it? And
I was like sure, And I just wanted I just
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love her and I just wanted to be part of
her final season and she wrote this moment that I
feel like. I had people reach out to me about
this scene. Brian text me like my phone was blowing
up because it was just so honest. It was this
mom who is just talking about her son going off
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to college, and she gets a little tipsy, she drinks
too much sake, and she just kind of has this
heartfelt monologue and then gets in the car and is trashed.
Just but it was so tender and then also funny.
I got to do so many turns, you know, as
an actor, when you get to do lots of turns,
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And it's one of my favorite things I've done since
The Office.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
That's awesome. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Small, small moment I've had. I've had bigger roles in
other things, but I think it was just one of
those moments where I'm like, oh, I get to do
a lot in this one moment, and it's all about me.
It's you know, the character.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I saw on the old Gram.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Uh you got well.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
By the way, Angela Kenzie and Jenna Fisher host a
podcast one of the largest in all of the land,
Office Ladies, and I saw on the Gram you are
entering the final season of rewatching The Office season nine.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
The first thing I saw was New Guys.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
I saw the title and I was like, wait, they're
doing New Guys.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
That's the last season nine? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, Like that's the last that's the last one. I mean,
it's been obviously an enormous success. How much fun has
it been for you? Not just working with Jenna so
closely for so long, and I know how close the
two of you are, but how much fun has it
been to connect with so many other people that we
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worked with, and to really, over the span of years
relive the show.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
It is my favorite thing I've done in my entire career,
my favorite thing. It eclipses everything, and I you know,
the Office holds such a special place in my heart,
right it is. It is my favorite on camera thing.
You know, you say, what was your favorite role after
the Office? It's it's it's hard to really have anything
(46:18):
measure up to the Office. Nothing real, I mean, nothing
ever really will for me. That was just so special.
And until we do The Accountants the spinoff, of course, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Mean when is that? When is that starting? Do we
have a date yet to start it?
Speaker 1 (46:38):
This is a joke that I know, people that you
know listen to Office Ladies know that me and Brian
and Oscar used to regularly pitch that the spinoff would
be called Los Contades and it would be on Telemundo.
And and the tagline was oscar ahola ecaban so peacock.
If you're listening, I would still do the Accountants because
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that would be so fun.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, do we have a date yet?
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Though we don't have a date yet. We need to
set that. We need to get that out in motion. Okay,
But doing the podcast with Jenna, reconnecting with the cast
and crew and also with the community of people that
love The Office, it is just amazing. I'm so humbled
by it that our show lives on the way it
(47:25):
does that it brings people together and I love it.
I love it so much, Brian. It's one of the
things I'm most proud of.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
How does it feel knowing that you're starting the last
season and at least in its current form, it will
be done. You'll have to say goodbye that.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, So Office Ladies, Jenna and I have decided isn't
going anywhere. We love doing this so much, so you know,
when we're done with the rewatch, we do have an
idea for a fun follow up cast, so a user teaser, teaser,
a teaser. So we want to stay podcasting. We just
(48:09):
love it, and I mean it's fine, Brian, isn't it
You're so good at it. It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I love it. It's fine. It's my favorite part of
the week.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yes, me too, Me too.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
This week because I'm about to do some traveling. I've
done a lot this week, I'll be honest, but it
is truly the time getting to talk with old friends
like you, and I mean the fact that we've known
each other for a long time.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
I'm not calling you old.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I'm fifty two and meeting and meeting new people.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
I mean, I I just yeah, I love it. I
love it. I love it too.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Brian Cranston just came in the studio with us, and
I mean Brian, I hung on his every word. He
literally is someone who could read the phone book like
just the way he talks. And he ended up asking
us questions and I was like, wait, Jen, I think
you just interviewed us. It was just so interesting. But
like you said, I was like, gosh, just to have
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you know, an hour and a half with Steve Correll
or you know. Oh, we talked to Kelly Cantley, and
I know you have to just the people. Kelly was
the ad on the office, assistant director and just people
were so dear to us and special and to be
able to just sit and chat with them.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, it's a gift. Are you going to be sad though?
When the rewatch is done?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
I will be.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I will be.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I've really loved rewatching the show. I hadn't seen the
show all the way through since it aired. There are
many episodes that we're watching, really and truly I haven't
seen since that first week when it was on Remember
Appointment television on Thursday nights on NBC. So I am
going to be sad. But I told Jenna, I was like,
maybe we'll just rewatch the whole thing again. That is
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not our spin off podcast, but that's.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
The way to keep it going.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
But I actually actually instead of like like toll Girl too,
it's like office ladies, still watching, Watch still watching. But
I told her, I'm serious. I think now that the podcast,
like we've rewatched it all, I kind of want to
just go back and rewatch it now for me, you
know what I mean? Right, just as an audience.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Now, I haven't asked you this either, are you? And
now obviously you know for scheduling and all of that,
you I'm sure there are times where you're maybe recording
more than one in a week or you know you're
you're ahead of obviously when it airs spoiler alert. That's
how it works. Yes, what's your process like? Are you
(50:43):
watching it weekly? Typically? Like one episode?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Okay, here's here's my work week ready, okay, okay, So
we record on Thursdays, right, and then my work week.
Then it sort of starts again after Theday. So Thursday's
like my Friday, guys, and then on Friday, what I
do is I watch the next week's episode.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Okay, that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Okay, So I watch it first time on Friday. Then
on Sunday, I watch all the bloopers any like bonus scenes,
and I also have the shooting drafts, so then I
will on Monday, I read the shooting draft and I
look to see, like what stayed in what didn't. I'll
look to see what kind of they call them the
(51:29):
candy bag alts. We talk about this on Office Ladies.
Those were all the like extra stuff we might read
for a talking head, the monologues we would do. Then
Jenna and I decide who do we want to reach
out to. Okay, Brian directed it. I'm going to reach
out to Brian because I have a few questions about
this one scene, and then maybe she reaches out to
a cast member. Then we look to see any articles
(51:50):
written about the show at the time. I look through
all my old emails to see if we were trading
emails about something at the time. I look through old photos.
We just we really dig deep into it and try
to find all the layers about that episode. And then
on Tuesday or Wednesday, I'll watch it again all the
way through, because now I have all this information, so
I'll watch it again to see if I missed anything,
(52:12):
if there's any background catch, if there was a fan question,
and then we record on Thursday. So typically I watch
an episode of The Office three times, the same episode.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
So you watch it how it aired. I watch it
how it.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Aired with no information. I just watch it just to
watch it, watch it, and then I watch it after
looking at the shooting draft. Yeah, our bloopers are deleted
scenes things like that.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, that's great, I mean that's that's that's going to
be a lot that you're going to miss. Then yeah
in a short few yeah week slash months.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Well, and then the other thing too that's interesting to
me is that you know, I'll watch an episode that
we prep three times, but a fan has seen the
episode seventeen times. You know, everybody knows the show way
better than we'll ever know it, Ryan, even with all
of our like unturning, like different behind the scenes information. Yeah,
(53:06):
but the actual episode, no one will ever know it
better than the true Office fan.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, it's so funny. He just reminded me.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
And I can't remember how many times it was, but
I had the opportunity to interview Billie Eilish and I
know you've talked to her and I whatever it was,
I posted about it online like she's watched it fourteen times.
It was fourteen or seventeen or something like that.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
It's like thirty something probably.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
And no, that was her. That was her number.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
And in all of the comments, all it was was
people making fun of her because she hadn't seen it enough.
Oh my goss, god, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Guys, back off, guys, come wow.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, because she knows it so well.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
She knows it very well. Yeah, she knows it very well.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
We did a like a quiz with her when she
was on Office Ladies, and she just skunked me and Jenna.
I mean, she skunked Jenna. I came in.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Second, rame in second.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Yeah, Rain would come significantly behind Jenna.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
I'll tell you that Rain is hilarious. Whenever we reach
out to him about an episode, we're like, hey, Rain,
this is an episode. You know Dwight had a really
big story arc in. What do you think about this?
You'd be like, Oh, yeah, I don't I don't know,
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
I know, I know, I know, I know, I remember.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
I talked to him and it was like within six minutes,
and I think he and I talked for almost two
and a half hours. Within six minutes, I had all
my pages, I had all this prep done, and my
brain went only macro questions, no micro quet like, no,
no specifics. Uh huh no, Yeah, it's yeah. Good for him.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
That was very Southern. That was kind of like, bless
his heart.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Bless is heard, good him, bless his heart.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
I have a new scoop to deliver to the world today.
Unless someone wrote a press release today, Uh, you and
your amazing husband Josh Snyder just sold.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
The cook book. Congratulations, thank you. What is it? What
is it about?
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Okay, So we have been wanting to do a cookbook
together for a long time. You know, I do that
amazing baker. You know this. You've been on our YouTube
series Begging with Josh Nan.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yes, both baking and cooking, just baking.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Oh well, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
We did Cooke, didn't we We made chili once.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
We made chili once. Yeah. So Josh has a ton
of recipes. He's a food blogger and he's awesome, and
we have our family favorites and our kids' favorites, and
we just really wanted to finally put all of our
favorite recipes and cookbook that we can share. And I'm
just so excited even just for our kids to have it.
(56:05):
So it's gonna be recipes plus little stories, slice of
life photos and stuff like that, and we're super super
excited about it.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
It's basically like Josh and Ange's family favorites.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yes, family favorite. That is not the title. I can't
release the title yet. Oh we're gonna have a big reveal.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Okay, I understand that. But that's but that's amazing. I
love that idea.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Thank you. Well, you've done two cookbooks so.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Well one I'm in the I'm in the middle of it.
Speaker 3 (56:37):
No, I mean it's yes, I have the barbecue cookbook
that's coming out in a few months here, the Chili
cook book.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
I mean, it's it's work. It's a lot to get
it all together.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
You know. Right before I hopped on the podcast with you,
we had a phone call with our publisher and she
was going through the dates that we have to turn
things in and this, and I I could see Josh
doing that thing he does where when Like, for example,
we were in Scotland and we asked directions and this
guy talked for about ten minutes to us, and I
(57:10):
could tell Josh didn't know a single word he said.
He he gets this look in his eyes of like
uh huh huh. And so I mean he's very excited
about it. But like as we were listing things off,
I could see he was like, oh this this is
gonna okay and when when? And oh that's a lot okay.
So it's a ton of work. As you know, Jenna
and I's book, The Office BFFs. It took us three
(57:33):
years and seven months to write that book. Now, if
we did start writing it, we started writing it during
the pandemic, to be fair, and all of a sudden,
what I'm teaching, you know, fourth grade science. Are you
kidding me? Like we're homeschooling? Like I get a list,
I got it, I need a beaker and some string,
(57:54):
and I'm like, what am I doing? And I also
have to go write a book? Yeah, Brian, I should
say that, just so you know. We did. We did
tease it on the podcast on Office Ladies and that
came out last week. So I don't you're not we
don't care.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Okay, listen if I say it's breaking news.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
It's breaking news, it's breaking news. Okay, that's fine. I
just wanted you.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
To know it's okay. No, it's totally fine.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
I uh am so happy for your success. I'm so
happy that you're happy. More than anything, I'm happy that
you're happy and that you're enjoying it so much and
you're giving such joy to so many people.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
I'm uh, I'm just frying. No, I'm just so happy
for you.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
That makes that makes makes me. It's so sweet. I
just love you so much, Brian. We we weathered a
lot together over in that corner, and a lot of
laugh Oh my gosh, a lot of life happens in
nine years, and you were always there for me. You
were always there for me. And I just I just
adore you well.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
I love you too, and I so appreciate you coming
on celebrating the Office Ladies beginning season.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
Nine, the final season. It is, as they call it,
it's the final countdown.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
It's the final countdown.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Good luck.
Speaker 3 (59:20):
I can't wait to hear where the show's gonna go.
Yeah from there.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
We're very excited. We are super excited about it, and
we so appreciate our Office Lady's family, and we we
want to just keep doing it, keep doing it.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Well, I'm I'm really glad you are, And good luck
on the cookbook. If you need any if you need
any to I mean basically, all I.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
Told you was it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah, I might need might be more guidance than that.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
Find all right, I'll give you here. Here's here. Here's
my here's my biggest best piece of advice. This is
writing for writing a cookbook. Okay, find someone early to
do the forward.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Oh that's so smart, Brian, I hadn't even thought about
the forward.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Okay, good good.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Find somebody early to do the forward. Okay, they'll appreciate it.
And and yeah, because that's the one, because you're like
they give you know, if somebody gives you a deadline,
you have to do it. If somebody gives a theoretical
deadline for a thing that isn't quite figured out yet.
Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Oh oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yeah, well listen.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I loved being on here chatting with you. I'll come
back anytime because you're one of my favorite people on
the whole planet. And you guys out there listening, be
sure to write Peacock, give him a call, let him
know you'd like to see the accountants los oscar Ahlai Caban.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
There you go. Angela Kenzie, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Thank you, love you too.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I'll talk to you soon, Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Angela, I love you. Thank you so much for taking
some time with me today. Good luck finishing off the
rewatch of the Office and listeners. If you want to
hear us talk more, well, then you can go back
listen to Angela's episode on this podcast specifically about the office,
(01:01:39):
or you can go to Office Ladies listen to the
episode I was Casual Friday and many more.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
I will see you again right here, not this week again,
but next week, so make this one a good one.
Off The Beat is hosted and executive produced by me
(01:02:08):
Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer lingg Lee. Our senior
producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris,
and Emily Carr. Our talent producer is Ryan Papa Zachary,
and our intern is Ali Amir Sahi. Our theme song
Bubble and Squeak, performed by the one and Only Creed Bratton,
But you know, I guess, I guess this is just
what do you call that public announcement to Hollywood. I'm
sure they're listening to me. If you if you need
a bitch, don't ask me to read for it. Just no,
I can do it. No, I can deliver. Hi. My
(00:22):
name is Angela Kinzie and I can bat right and
left handed.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You're a distrous that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So when you need your you know, weekend softball team.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, you're a writ ye me up. You're a switch hitter.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm a switch hitter.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't think that applies.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm a switch hitter.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hello everyone, and welcome to another delightful episode of Off
the Beat. You are listening to the malifluous, harmonious, the
dulcet sounds of me, your host, Brian Baumgartner. Guys, I'm
sorry to disappoint you. I couldn't get a guest for today,
so I just asked my friend to join me. Her
(01:07):
name is Angela. I know you probably don't know her.
She's she's an actor. She's got blonde hair, small frame,
played an accountant on the show about a paper company.
And it doesn't matter. She's my friend and we're going
to have a little chat. Oh oh, you know her. Well,
if you know her, you're going to love this episode.
(01:27):
In addition to some office talk, Angela and I are
going to talk about her childhood in Indonesia, her comedy training,
her cooking prowess, and of course, her award winning podcast
Office Ladies, which she hosts with our other friend Jenna Fisher.
(01:47):
You might not know her, She's all right, you probably
know her. Without further ado, I am so excited to
have on my next guest, which needs no introduction, Angela Kinsey.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeakna, Bubble
and Squeak. I cook it everymore. Lift over from the
night people, Happy New Year.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
What's happening, body, what's happening? How are you?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I'm good? Oh my god, look at you? Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I got the green Bay shirt on today. I've got
I've got the glasses on. I'm experimenting with glasses. Angela.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
What's the experimentation? Do you need them or not?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Wow, no, my my brain says, I don't my eyes.
That's a crazy say I that I do that. It's
very helpful.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I remember going to the eye doctor when I was.
I think I was like forty four, and and I
was kind of squinting at things, and he goes, how
old are you about? Like forty six? I was like,
how dare you? He goes, it's time like clockwork.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's so crazy, that's what they say. It's like forty
six is when it starts.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, Well, I don't know. We'll see. I just got them. Well,
we'll experiment, we'll try.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I don't know. It seems unnecessary.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I mean I'm seeing the office, lots of office ladies,
things behind you.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Are you at home? Are you in your studio?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
This is my closet.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Your closet, I know, I see on the Instagram.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And they set it up for me. So it's got
this you know, the soundproofing stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Me too, see my sound proofing stuff of ownness.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And then I you know me, Brian, I love a
little chatchkey level. So if if people send me stuff,
I hang it on the wall behind me. Basically, oh yeah,
so send me something, I'll hang it on the wall.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's nice of you. You're so nice, Angela. That's what
everyone says.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Do they really?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, they they do. Can I tell you?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I am a real like I have really taken a
turn on small talk. Oh, like a turn like down,
like I'm not good at it anymore. We were just
at the.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Weather is beautiful today, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Are you no stopping it? I feel for your stupid
small talk. I'm like, wait, is it? I like looked
out the window.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I was at my son's you know, winter concert the
other night, and this parent was like, how's it going,
and I, you know, when I blurted out, oh, our minivan,
I guess something's up with the axle. This is a.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Parent barely know.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They looked at me like, why.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Are you telling me about your mini me? I? I, well,
you know what's so funny? Not forty five minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I just had a small talk exchange with someone who
came to my house to do a little work, and
it was out how to. I don't think he's a
big fan, so I don't think he's going to hear this.
You know, it was this, Hey, I heard I was
coming to your house and you're my friend's favorite character.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Thank you. I don't really watch television. Are you still
shooting that show The Office? No?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
No, we no, we're done with that. Yeah, he told
me about something about chili. Yeah, that was that was me.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That was me. That was me. So what what are
you working on now? I mean literally, it just kept
going and going right in front of the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
At any point in your day, you can have a
full on interview by some students.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Right it was. That's how the end.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Of it usually makes you feel shitty about yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I know, yeah, that's how it ended.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, well, anyway, I don't watch television, but I think, oh,
actually the last thing he said was but I think
I saw you play poker once. Oh great, yea, yeah,
that was that was probably me, probably me back in
twenty twelve. Anyway, Well, here's the thing. Now, I'm good
(06:33):
to ask you all these kinds of questions. So that's fun,
really fun.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It's so fun to interview someone you know and you
know the answers.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
To well yeah, and so like like like me, I
feel like everyone knows your story at least, even if
they don't know you, they know your story.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
They probably saw you play poker once on television. But
there are a few things my research team did or
I actually did not fully know.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
They found some nooks and crannies.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well I don't even know how Nooki and cranny it is,
you're gonna get nookied.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
No, there were a couple of things I didn't know.
I mean, first off, you grew up in Jakarta.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I did.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That's a city in Indonesia. I've heard you speak Indonesian
many times. Bahasa bahassa, Bahasa. Okay, yeah, you speak Bahasa.
Have you heard this phrase third culture kid?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yes? I have.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So, I mean for those of you who haven't, I'm
glad you have because I hadn't. Actually what this refers
to our people that they have this third culture right
There's so you have your sort of home culture you're
moved overseas, then you have the culture that you're living
in there, and those two together kind of make this
(07:57):
third culture. Does that resonate for you? Do you feel
like that's how you grew up?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
For sure, for sure. You know, we had this young
gal right in to office Ladies my podcast who was
also a third culture kid, and you do you you know,
you're sort of fish out of water everywhere, so you're
not quite part of the culture where you grew up.
And then when you go back to what would be
your home culture, you're don't you don't quite fit in
(08:26):
there either, And I think it's why a lot of
kids that went to international schools wherever they are, they're
all over right. They really bond with each other and
they stay in touch. My school, Jakarta International School, is
having their reunion at the end of this month. They
picked different cities and it's going to be in Los
Angeles this year. So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh, going to go.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'm going to go.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's super cool.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'm super excited. My sister has been to many and
you just you it's a it's like a club. You're
not in until you're in it, you know, and then
it's special to you to sort of connect with other people.
And the other thing about growing up in another country too,
when you move back to wherever it was you're from.
(09:12):
At least for me when I was a kid, because
I am one hundred years old, so this was the seventies,
and I lived in Indonesia all through the seventies and
into the early eighties, and in the mid eighties I
moved back to the US. And you when you said
goodbye to people, you just said goodbye. There was no internet,
there was I'm not I'm going to text you. It
was snail mail. It was like, oh okay, and then
(09:33):
you would have a friend or two, like I had
a friend Kate Livingston in Australia. Kate, Oh my gosh,
if you hear this, please like, I would love to
talk to you. We wrote for years and then my
letters started coming back because I guess they had moved
and I don't know how to find Kate.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I don't know where she is Livingston. Reach out to Angela.
She wants to hear from you.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Kate.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Sarah remember and Kate. They're from Australia and Kate, you
would make front of your sister Sarah because she had freckles,
and you'd be like, I fly, just shed all of
you face. Sarah, do you remember?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I don't remember, but hopefully she does. I would look,
I want to make a connection. Well, I was going
to ask you if so it seems like not. So
there's no one that you're still in contact with. Oh yeah, lots,
Oh they are, yeah, okay, Kate, not.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Kate, but my friend Carnsa and I we text all
the time and share pictures and I have a few
friends that we used to do a yearly meet up.
It's kind of harder now because everyone has kids and stuff.
But it's, you know, such a fond, fond chapter of
my life.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Have you been back?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I have been back in my twenties, but I haven't.
But then, you know, then we got the office, and
that was my whole thirties, Brian, my whole thirties.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I know.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And you know what when people like see you out
in the world now, I don't know how is for you,
but they look at me and they're like, you're not thirty.
I'm like new, I am met. It's shocking to them.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's I know that you don't still look the same.
I know.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I yeah, I was, I was. I did not remember
if you had been back. So it's been since you're
not since your twenties.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, you've been back.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I want to go back again, but it's you know,
it's just harder.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Jakarta has somewhere around seven million people. Yeah, and you
returned back to the United States and settle. I guess
I don't know if I thought the word you settle
in Archer City, Texas, where there's fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think there's.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Eighteen hundred now, Brian, I think I'm talking about at
the time, I just drove through in the population sign
said eighteen hundred and my mom said, oh, that's way off.
So I don't know, I don't really know where it stands.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
There's more, thinks there's more.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And there were a few raised eyebrows on the car
that might not just might disagree. My dad was a
drilling engineer, but he was from the small town in Texas.
And when we were transferred back stateside, we were transferred
to Dallas. Brian Dallas in the eighties was carezy. Wow,
(12:21):
it was crazy. People were like my first day, my
first day of school, there was a girl sitting next
to me. Her name was Bobby Bobb. I this is
in Dallas because we were there a year. We had
like a transition year. My dad was before. My dad
was like, let's get out of Dallas, let's go back
to the farm. But Bobby had a patch on her eye,
(12:44):
just one eye. And you know, I was trying to
make a friend. I'm new and I said, oh, I said,
do you have pink eye. I'm trying to think what's
the patch about. And she goes, oh, I got eye
on her tattoo, my alid and it's infected. And we
were fourteen I was like, Dallas is like a whole other.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Animal here, Bobby, if you're listening, reach out to Angela.
She wants to connect. She wants to connect with you. Bobby,
b bbe I.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Bobby was very nice to me.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So, and I'm sure her eye is better.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's probably better. Now was this moving? Well?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
So you spend a year in Dallas and Dallas is
a big city. It's not seven million, certainly not at
the time, not even close. Talking about that third culture
kid thing. Now you're back in this culture archer city
so small? Was this difficult for you?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh my gosh. Well, let's let's start with Dallas. Because
Dallas was my first entry back into the States and
people didn't know what to do with me. They had
no idea what box to put me in. I you know,
a lot of them had never heard of Jakarta, and
I was also.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I hadn't either until I met you buy.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You stop it. I'm like, you stop it. I was
so Also coming back from my school in Indonesia to
the US, I was ahead and four subjects, so I
started my day. Dallas is very very you know, the
school system is very big. So you have middle school,
which is just like seventh and eighth grade or seventh,
eighth and ninth and then you have a high school
(14:27):
that's like ten, eleven, twelve, And where I was, it
was a huge school district. So I went to the
middle school for half the day. Then my mom picked
me up at lunch. I ate lunch in the car
with my mom as she drove across town to the
high school. The high school with ten eleventh and twelfth graders,
(14:48):
and I finished the day there. So I was never
at the middle school for after school extracurriculars. I was
never there for pep rally. I was never there for anything.
And then at the high school and I wasn't I
didn't eat lunch with anyone. Ate lunch with my mom
in the car. That's awful, awful, awful. And now think
about fourteen year old me. I think I weighed seventy pounds. Yeah,
(15:10):
and I looked I was just a bean pole. And
also Indonesia, I didn't wear a lot of makeup. I
didn't do my hair, and this was prime Texas, big hair,
and I had straight hair, not a lot of makeup,
you know. And my mom said that, and I remember this,
I would cry all the way to school, and then
my mom would drop me off and she would cry
(15:32):
all the way drive back home. I know a way
to take a third story to make everybody said it
was a really, really difficult year. And sure at the
high school, tenth and eleventh and twelfth graders, there were
only three of us, three students that were not tenth,
eleventh and twelfth. It was me and a young fella
(15:53):
from Pakistan. And then there was a gal and I
forget where she was from, but you know we were
all third culture kids.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, And you know who was the nicest to me
at the school. And I never even smoked pot, Brian,
I don't you know. I don't smoke marijuana. The stoner
kids were the nicest. They were like they were like
Jakarta man, sounds cool, can talk. They were the nicest.
And I would, I would, that's who at the high school.
(16:25):
That's who would like, chat me up. So shout out
to nice stoner kids.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Shout out just nice stoner kids.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Shout out Pakistani kid, if you're there, please so nice.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
She was so nice to you, I would, yes. And
then the gal, I didn't know because she was in
a different program than I was in but I just
knew of her. I knew there were three of us.
And then the other thing was then we moved to
Archer City, and I mean I went from a five
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a public school, you know, that's like the high school
I was at, and Dallas looks like a community college
to a to a high school. So I graduated with
thirty four. Oh my goodness, that's yeah, and talk about
they didn't know what to make of They were like,
who is this lady coming in here? And I loved it.
(17:23):
I ended up loving it. I hit that point where
I was like, we had moved. I'd moved so many times.
I was new to two schools in one year, you know,
because I was new to the middle school and the
high school. Right by the time I got to Archer City,
I kind of have what the kids call the zero
f's about everything, and I think I just went in
there with that bravado and then it was a blast
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and I loved it.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Oh that's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I also am told and I'm asking more in terms
of you acclimating or getting to know other students. I mean,
it sounds like Dallas was a disaster anyway, but that
you didn't have a television, No, until you moved back
to the States. Yeah, so again, like, well, it's I mean,
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it's still the same today. It may be about video games,
or it may be about sports, or you know, still
some entertainment, some of those cultural touchstones that just help you.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Really. I mean, now you and I know, like there's.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
A whole group of people who are friends because of
the office, that communicate in the office language, that talk
about episodes, that quote episodes that you know that that's
part of their cultural identity. You come back, you don't know,
not just Sesame Street or mister Rogers, but you know
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shows by the time you're fourteen that your parents are
watching The Cosby Show or you know, I don't I
can't date you specifically at that moment. My brain's not
that good, but I feel like that's what I was watching,
you know, early on in the eighties. Maybe I'm wrong,
but you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, was that
difficult for you to sort of make that adjustment? And
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there must have been times when you just didn't know
what the hell anybody was talking.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
About all the time. Yeah, all the time. I didn't
know what people were talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I didn't know the first Bueller's day off. That would
be one that would have been for me.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Oh I saw it.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I saw that. I thought it was so good. I
was so excited. I like kind of went on a binge,
like I would just like watch everything. But I mean
I didn't know what a soap opera was, and there
were girls talking about soap operas and talking about, oh, Marlena,
days of our lives there, and I'm like, who's Marlena?
What's happening? Sounds like things aren't going so good for hook,
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you know. I'm like, oh, no, there's and John Black,
he's back. What happened to him? So there was all
these references I didn't understand for a long time. Still
every once in a while, well because there's big chapters.
I had never seen a Brady Bunch episode, never seen one,
you know. And then also when I started doing improv,
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sometimes I would walk out into a scene and a
pop cultural reference would come up and I would have
no idea. Someone said to me, someone said something about
the green hornet one time, and I was like, I'll
have another, please like shaken nutstood, thank you very much,
And everyone was like record scratch and they're like, who
is this person?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
That's when you just start talking Indonesian. Yeah, that's just.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Really I know, Mahsakali. It's like, I'm sorry, I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Did your parents speak Indonesian?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
By the way, my mom more than my dad. And
then my older sister is still very fluent in it. Okay,
she went back there and lived later in life. So
and then my sisters and I just have a little
shorthand where just enough so I speak it better than
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my other two sisters. And so because there's four of us,
but we have enough of a shorthand that we can
talk about someone at the mall, you know, like if
there's a lady at the mall, we can say why
to leeha. That's how my sisters speak it with a
Southern accent. They love when I do this impression of them,
just kidding. They don't, but yes, they put a lot
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of extra vowels.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You and I I'm trying to remember when we have
told this story, if we've told the story public.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I have been trying to like brainstorms since you reached
out and we're like, and you want to come on,
I'm like, what is he going to bring up? What
I've been trying to like think, well, I know a
few I know a few stories.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Well, we have to bring up the fact that you
and I had met before we met on the set
of the Office.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
This is bonkers. This is bonkers. This is how when
life just like circles back on you. Do you remember
the day we figured it out? We were on set, Yes,
and you guys all know me and Brian and Oscar
I would say, of the whole entire cast, are nook
back there? I think we spent the most concentrated time together.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, you know, because we were in the corner. We
were in the corner and we could put baby in
the corner.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
They put baby in the corner. They put the idiots
in the corner.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, we were on set one day. How did it
come up?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I don't remember. I mean I think it came up.
So guys, Uh, Angela went to Baylor.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
For some reason.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
No Sicken bears, Sick and bears.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
No reason. I went to SMU in the aforementioned Dallas,
which was not the same by the time I got
there that it was in the eighties. And we started
talking and she knew some people.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
We started talking about spring breaks, isn't how it came outarted.
I feel like we were like I said something about
I am telling you, Brian, we were talking about spring
break because we were about to go on hiatus, and
I said something. We were talking about places we'd been,
and I mentioned that I went to Acapuco in college,
and you said, I went to talk about we went to.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
In college and ire around and then.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You said, yeah with with like a bunch of guys
from SMU. And I said, I met a bunch of
guys from SMU And You're like, these guys were fight
outs and I was like they were fight out.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yes, I mean, I don't even want to call it
a relationship. You were hanging out for a brief period
of time with someone that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
A little spring break.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Okay you. I wasn't going to go to any specifics.
But while we're at it, what exactly happened? No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Oh, it was very innocent, no real but we just
hung out. We we sort of just like hung out
for spring break.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, And anyway, we found out this is insanity that
Angela and I not only did we go to Senior
Frogs together, we were in the same van cave.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
We were in the same car to go to some
club on the hill. I don't know he has some wee.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, I met one of you, one of the one
of your friends. I won't say his name, right, I'm
still in touch with by the way, still friends.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Reach out today, don't still friends, still friends.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
He's lovely because you know, Brian, I'm like, once you're
in my life, you're in my life forever. So I
hope that if you meet me anyway. So we met
at the hotel, and then his group of friends I
guess you weren't with them at that moment invited us
to dinner to senior Frogs. Yeah, and we all went
in this van to seen your frogs. You and I
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sat at a dinner table together, except it was like
a table for like sixteen people.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, it was enormous and we weren't at.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The same side table. But then we all piled into
this van and went to some nightclub. Brian, it blew
our mindset day because we literally were like, I went
takapuco I was, I went to see your frogs. They
were like, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I know, I mean the fact that is so, I mean,
I don't know I wish there was some like specific
memory that we could pull back.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
But anyway, we were, I mean, we were.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
In a van and akapugo together. That's pretty amazing. And
when we discovered this over in the corner of accounting,
we lost our minds and we got fussed at do
you remember they were like they were like, hey, we're
trying to film a TV show over here, Like John
Krasinski was like, what the heck's going? And then you
and I are.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Like, we were in a van.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
We met ten years ago or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I mean at that point it had been that long
that long or longer before. Yeah, yeah, and had never
run into each other that we know of. I mean,
we could have been in a van in La too.
But that is so crazy when so that's a long
story to say you went to be a long story.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
That's a long story to say though, that we our
lives keep criss crossing, which I think is.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Fun that that is true.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
But when you were at Baylor, did you have the
thought that what you're doing, that this is what you
wanted to do with your life.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
No, I wasn't doing what I thought i'd be doing.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
No, I know you were studying English.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, I was an English major, but I was a
creative writing major, okay. And I always knew always that
I wanted to write characters for my self, Okay, So
that's what I wanted to do. And I my mom
was very specific that she wanted me to go to
a private religious college in the state of Texas. This
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is very specific because A.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Qualifies.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Okay, But so I am the youngest of four girls,
and my three older sisters had all gone to college
and dropped out and then gone back to school and
got their degrees, and my mom had sort of seen
how hard that was on them later in life. And
so my mom was determined that I was not going
to go to a big state school. I was not
going to go to a party school. And so she
(27:43):
like kind of gave me a list. Here's your list
in Texas, lady, if you want us to help out
with college. And then and and I went, and I
toured Baylor. It is beautiful. The campus is beautiful. I
had such a great time there. I loved him, Brian
and Baylor is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's beautiful where Baylor is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Hey, Chip and Joanna Gains are going to come after you.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Chip, and Joanna come come join me. What was the
moment for you where you said I'm all in?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Well? I uh, well, Brian, here here's how it went.
I graduated from Baylor. I got a job. I was
offered a job at a publishing house, a little small
independent publishing company there in Waco. And my dad was like, fantastic,
and I was like, no, no, no, no, this is
not I want to perform. And they're like, you want
(28:43):
to what But of course they knew that. But that
is not the degree I got. I didn't get a
degree in drama and theater. So I sort of had
always had this plan that I would go. I wanted
to go to New York and I wanted to work
on a late night talk show. I was obsessed with
David Letterman. I used to record David Letterman ready for this,
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this is going to date me. I would watch David
Letterman and I would get remember the tape recorders that
were like long and flat, like a rectangle, and you
would hit eject and put the tape line. I would
hold that up and I would record his opening monologue
in front of the TV. In front of the TV,
and I would learn. I would like like practice his
opening monologue and like study the beats of how he
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would tell it. I was obsessed, and so I graduate
from Baylor. I don't take the job. I moved back
in with my parents. O MG. My dad was like,
what the heck is going home? We just payed for
you this great education. And I wanted to intern in
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New York. So I had no connections. My family has
no connections in entertainment. And so I found a phone number.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Thank god.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I don't even know how I got this phone number. Literally,
I think I bought one of those books, you know,
like a kind of like a Backstage West kind of book,
and I found all the talk shows and stuff, and
there there was like a one eight hundred number that
you could call, like a phone number you could call
for NBC Rockefeller Center in New York. So you call
(30:20):
the number, you get the main switchboard, and this woman's like,
how can I direct you? And I said, I'm calling
about internships. She's like, great, let me transfer you. And
then she transfers you and you get this automated message
that's like leave your name and information, someone will call
you back. So I called and I did this for
a few weeks and I would just go to this
(30:40):
thing and no one would call me back, and I
was getting so fed up, and my parents were like,
are you going to get a job? And I'm like,
oh my god. So then one day I called and
the woman answers, how may I direct you? And I said,
I was just talking to a woman in internships and
I got disconnected and she said, oh, do you mean
Nancy And I said yes, yes, I mean Nancy really
(31:03):
and then she was like, let me connect you connects me.
This woman answers the phone, Hi, this is Nancy. I said, Hi,
I'm calling about internships. She said how did you get
this phone number? And I said I lied, I've been
calling for weeks and I lied, and they transferred me
to you, and she goes, okay, can you be here Monday?
And this was like a Thursday. I said I sure can,
(31:26):
and she was like, great, I have two internships available.
One is in the news department and one is on
a new talk show called Conan O'Brien that no one
had heard of and no one was watching at the time.
And I said, great, I'll be there. I hang up
the phone and I'm like at the phone like in
the kitchen you know with the.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Longer city and now you have to be in New York.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, on a Thursday, and I literally yell, Mom, I'm
going to New York. I have to go to New York.
She's like, what are you talking about? And then I
told her this and she was like, no, she can't
go to New York. I was like, Mom, I'm gonna
go sell my car. She's like what, and then she's like, Bill,
get in here, and I was like, this is my dream.
I was like, I cannot stay here. If I stay here,
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everything you love about me is going to wither. This
is what I want to do. And so I sold
my car. Brain my dad got me a car and
he wanted to teach me responsibilities. He put it in
my name and I had to pay for everything, you know,
insurance and whatnot. This was like part of my thing.
And I sold the car and I used that money
(32:31):
to move to New York. And my dad one day
was like, probably shouldn't have put that title in your name.
But they definitely knew how serious I was. So I
guess that's a long long answer to tell you. I
knew I was all in.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I knew I was. I mean when I graduated college,
I think I was kind of, you know, in college,
thinking like, yeah, that's what I want to do. Am
I going to do it or not? And then then
finally it was push come to shove, and I was like,
if I'm going to do it, I have to do
it now.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I love I love that and you telling your parents
what you love about me? Will die if I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I won't be who I am if I don't do this.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
One of the tidbits I did not know, so I've
I've known forever you were an intern on Con O'Brien.
I didn't realize that you specifically worked for Max Weinberg.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yes, yes, again, do you have.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
A relationship with him? No? Currently? No, No, Okay, it
didn't go so well.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Well, I don't know. It was just an internship. It's
just whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I mean he's he's particular, Okay, but he was totally fine.
I once again, I stretched the truth a tiny bit, Brian, Okay, Okay,
I applied.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I got the in you told me what to s
m U.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I got the internship on Connin O'Brien, and I just
was put into the general intern pool and there were
writers interns, and the writer's interns got to be in
the writer's room. There were interns. There was a music
intern that got to be in the studio. Well, I
wanted to be, to quote Hamilton, in the room where
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it happened. And the general intern pool was not it.
You were just constantly going and getting people coffee or
just running making copies for them, stuff like that. And
all of a sudden, while I was interning a position
for Max's intern, the music intern came available, and so
(34:32):
I went to the executive producer, Jeff Ross, not the
comedian you guts, this is a different person, different Jeff Ross,
and I was like, Hey, can I apply for that
music intern? I'm sure He's like what is this kid doing?
Because like why, first of all, why is she coming
into my office? Like I'm the executive producer. Shouldn't she
go tell the people who run the intern program. And
(34:54):
so I, you know, went to interview for it, and
they were like, tell us, you know, what do you
know about me music? Do youd let me? I was like, everything,
love music, It's my life. And for anyone that knows
me knows that I know three words to any song.
I don't know the full song. I don't know who
sang it, I don't know what album it's on, I
don't know the musical instrument I know. I'm like, I'm
(35:16):
the worst on a road trip. I'm the worst because
I know five words to the song you like and
I'm going to get them wrong. And somehow they were
like okay. And then the first day they were like,
we need you to go to sir. You know, Max
wants his drumsticks and he wants this, and there's this,
and there was a list of all of these instruments
and things that I had never even heard of, and
(35:39):
I had to go to this place called sir.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What's that stand for.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Studio instrument rentals?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I think, oh, but I.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Learned from one band that they didn't think it was
the best one and they called it shit in road cases.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's what I learned.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
But anyway, all of a sudden, I'm getting on and
I just went into the guy into the office of
this place, and I had this list and I said, hey,
I lied to get this internship. I don't know what
this is.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Can you help me?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
And it turns out when you're really honest, sometimes people
are like, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, Oh my gosh. That good for you though, That
showed initiative. Yeah right, and it got you in the room.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It got me in the room. And then I got
to be there when everything was happening that I wanted
to see, when Conan was practicing his monologue and when
Andy Richter and him were doing stuff, and it just
that's where I wanted to be. I wanted to be
right there.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I love that. I love that story.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
And and full circle moment. Years later, I got to
be a guest on Conan O'Brien. That was my first
real full life circle moment with the band with Max
that I used to be their intern.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Did you talk to him when you were there? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, I was like, hey, yeah, oh my gosh. I
was so excited. And Jimmy Vavino, who was always so
nice to me, and La Bamba the guy, the whole
band was great. Then I got to be on David
Letterman and I was like, I could not hold a
thought in my head. I couldn't even reconcile the fact
that this kid that would stand in front of this
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TV with her tape recorder and record this person I
was now sitting on the sofa talking to him. I was, Oh,
my gosh, full circle life moment.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's so cool.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I love that, and that that was what you wanted
to do, Yeah, to make it better.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That's incredible. I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Thanks Bud.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I don't know if you guys know.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Angela Kinsey starred as Angela Martin in a television show
called The Office for ten years, nine seasons.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah. Really, that's all I had to say about that.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
We've talked to Angela in the past. You could go
back and hear everything she has to say about The Office.
I don't really want to talk about that time except
to ask you a question that I get asked a
lot post Office. How difficult has it been for you
to separate yourself from the role of Angela Martin? And
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and is that even important to you at all?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
You mean when I'm going out for other jobs.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, for other projects, or just being perceived in terms
of your work now.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well, I definitely had a series of jobs after The
Office where people just wanted me to be like a
slight different shade of Angela Martin, just kind of a
bitchy person, right, And I did have a moment where
I was like, hey, I have done that for a
long time, and I'm ready to do something new. And
I got to do a few really fun characters. I
(38:54):
loved playing the mom and tall girl.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, and tall girl too.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
And tall girl too, she's still tall. I played. That's
my that's my tagline, my tagline, thank you, it's it was,
you know. I got to be in all these great
scenes with Steve's on and the young actors were so
great too, and so I loved. I was like, oh,
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I can be kind of like a little bit of
that ditsy, self absorbed mom of a certain age that
loves her white wine. Just not that different maybe than
who I am in real life. Closer low closer. So
I had a good run at doing that too, and
that was fun. But one of my favorite things recently
(39:39):
was there was a show coming out and they reached
out to me about a role and it was a
producer that's done a lot Brian. You would know, said producer,
and I've never worked with him before, but they said,
we would like her to come in an audition for
the role of this woman who's kind of uptight. She's
(39:59):
personally she doesn't really have anything nice to say about anyone,
you know, and I had this moment Brian where I said, no, no,
here's the thing. I did that, and I did it
really well for nine years. So if you want that,
I can give that to you, no problem. So my
audition is seasons one through nine.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Of the Job fucking tape. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I was like, I was like, I want you to
go to at the time Netflix and watch any episode
of the Office and let me know if I got
the job.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Okay, thanks, yeah, good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, that's what I said. I go any And then
I told my I told my agent. I said, if
anyone calls and asks me if I will come in
and read for them to be the bitch, will you
just forward them a link to the Office seasons one
through nine. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I'm done with that.
And that's I think that's part of being in your fifties.
There's some things you're just done with. Yeah, I'm done
(40:59):
with you. I'm done with nonsense. I can play the bend.
We know this, now do this.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yes, and and yeah. That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's not ego. It's no, it's it's it's not like,
oh I I Am not going to come and audition
or read for you. But it's like the conversation that
I have with with my representatives is basically like, dude,
they know right now whether they want me or not,
Like it's it's it's done. Like they don't have to
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hire me. They're they may be looking for a different
color or a different whatever. But if it's if the
role is in a specific window that that aligns with
what I have done or you have done over many
many years.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Let's not waste each other's time.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Let's not waste each other.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Let's not waste each other's time.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Exactly. That's what I'm saying. If it is something I've
never done before, or you haven't seen, or I haven't
done that particular character, I am so happy to come
in an audition. I like to work on a scene.
I like to go in. But you know, I guess,
I guess this is just what do you call that
public announcement to Hollywood? I'm sure they're listening to me.
(42:14):
If you if you need a bitch, don't ask me
to read for it. Just no, I can do it.
No I can deliver.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
You mentioned tall girl. Is that your favorite role since
the office You've had a lot hater's back off.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yes, I loved Wives. Oh my gosh, Wives so fun.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Impress me. I mean, what, what what is your favorite
or what? How about this? Here's a different What is
the work that you're the most proud of that you
have done since the Office?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Well? You know, I feel like there's moments where you
just get to really stretch yourself a little. And definitely
in Hater's back off that character, there was a real
sadness to her even though it was a comedy, and
I loved sort of dipping into that and I loved
I loved tall Girl. And I had this recurring character
(43:11):
on Fresh Off the Boat that was really fun. But
recently Pam Adlon reached out to me and said, Hey,
it's the final season of Better Things and I have
this little cameo and but I'm going to write you
this great monologue and will you come do it? And
I was like sure, And I just wanted I just
(43:32):
love her and I just wanted to be part of
her final season and she wrote this moment that I
feel like. I had people reach out to me about
this scene. Brian text me like my phone was blowing
up because it was just so honest. It was this
mom who is just talking about her son going off
(43:52):
to college, and she gets a little tipsy, she drinks
too much sake, and she just kind of has this
heartfelt monologue and then gets in the car and is trashed.
Just but it was so tender and then also funny.
I got to do so many turns, you know, as
an actor, when you get to do lots of turns,
(44:15):
And it's one of my favorite things I've done since
The Office.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
That's awesome. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Small, small moment I've had. I've had bigger roles in
other things, but I think it was just one of
those moments where I'm like, oh, I get to do
a lot in this one moment, and it's all about me.
It's you know, the character.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I saw on the old Gram.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Uh you got well.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
By the way, Angela Kenzie and Jenna Fisher host a
podcast one of the largest in all of the land,
Office Ladies, and I saw on the Gram you are
entering the final season of rewatching The Office season nine.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
The first thing I saw was New Guys.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
I saw the title and I was like, wait, they're
doing New Guys.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
That's the last season nine? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, Like that's the last that's the last one. I mean,
it's been obviously an enormous success. How much fun has
it been for you? Not just working with Jenna so
closely for so long, and I know how close the
two of you are, but how much fun has it
been to connect with so many other people that we
(45:51):
worked with, and to really, over the span of years
relive the show.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
It is my favorite thing I've done in my entire career,
my favorite thing. It eclipses everything, and I you know,
the Office holds such a special place in my heart,
right it is. It is my favorite on camera thing.
You know, you say, what was your favorite role after
the Office? It's it's it's hard to really have anything
(46:18):
measure up to the Office. Nothing real, I mean, nothing
ever really will for me. That was just so special.
And until we do The Accountants the spinoff, of course, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Mean when is that? When is that starting? Do we
have a date yet to start it?
Speaker 1 (46:38):
This is a joke that I know, people that you
know listen to Office Ladies know that me and Brian
and Oscar used to regularly pitch that the spinoff would
be called Los Contades and it would be on Telemundo.
And and the tagline was oscar ahola ecaban so peacock.
If you're listening, I would still do the Accountants because
(47:01):
that would be so fun.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, do we have a date yet?
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Though we don't have a date yet. We need to
set that. We need to get that out in motion. Okay,
But doing the podcast with Jenna, reconnecting with the cast
and crew and also with the community of people that
love The Office, it is just amazing. I'm so humbled
by it that our show lives on the way it
(47:25):
does that it brings people together and I love it.
I love it so much, Brian. It's one of the
things I'm most proud of.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
How does it feel knowing that you're starting the last
season and at least in its current form, it will
be done. You'll have to say goodbye that.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, So Office Ladies, Jenna and I have decided isn't
going anywhere. We love doing this so much, so you know,
when we're done with the rewatch, we do have an
idea for a fun follow up cast, so a user teaser, teaser,
a teaser. So we want to stay podcasting. We just
(48:09):
love it, and I mean it's fine, Brian, isn't it
You're so good at it. It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I love it. It's fine. It's my favorite part of
the week.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yes, me too, Me too.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
This week because I'm about to do some traveling. I've
done a lot this week, I'll be honest, but it
is truly the time getting to talk with old friends
like you, and I mean the fact that we've known
each other for a long time.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
I'm not calling you old.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I'm fifty two and meeting and meeting new people.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
I mean, I I just yeah, I love it. I
love it. I love it too.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Brian Cranston just came in the studio with us, and
I mean Brian, I hung on his every word. He
literally is someone who could read the phone book like
just the way he talks. And he ended up asking
us questions and I was like, wait, Jen, I think
you just interviewed us. It was just so interesting. But
like you said, I was like, gosh, just to have
(49:11):
you know, an hour and a half with Steve Correll
or you know. Oh, we talked to Kelly Cantley, and
I know you have to just the people. Kelly was
the ad on the office, assistant director and just people
were so dear to us and special and to be
able to just sit and chat with them.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, it's a gift. Are you going to be sad though?
When the rewatch is done?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
I will be.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I will be.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
I've really loved rewatching the show. I hadn't seen the
show all the way through since it aired. There are
many episodes that we're watching, really and truly I haven't
seen since that first week when it was on Remember
Appointment television on Thursday nights on NBC. So I am
going to be sad. But I told Jenna, I was like,
maybe we'll just rewatch the whole thing again. That is
(49:59):
not our spin off podcast, but that's.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
The way to keep it going.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
But I actually actually instead of like like toll Girl too,
it's like office ladies, still watching, Watch still watching. But
I told her, I'm serious. I think now that the podcast,
like we've rewatched it all, I kind of want to
just go back and rewatch it now for me, you
know what I mean? Right, just as an audience.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Now, I haven't asked you this either, are you? And
now obviously you know for scheduling and all of that,
you I'm sure there are times where you're maybe recording
more than one in a week or you know you're
you're ahead of obviously when it airs spoiler alert. That's
how it works. Yes, what's your process like? Are you
(50:43):
watching it weekly? Typically? Like one episode?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Okay, here's here's my work week ready, okay, okay, So
we record on Thursdays, right, and then my work week.
Then it sort of starts again after Theday. So Thursday's
like my Friday, guys, and then on Friday, what I
do is I watch the next week's episode.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Okay, that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Okay, So I watch it first time on Friday. Then
on Sunday, I watch all the bloopers any like bonus scenes,
and I also have the shooting drafts, so then I
will on Monday, I read the shooting draft and I
look to see, like what stayed in what didn't. I'll
look to see what kind of they call them the
(51:29):
candy bag alts. We talk about this on Office Ladies.
Those were all the like extra stuff we might read
for a talking head, the monologues we would do. Then
Jenna and I decide who do we want to reach
out to. Okay, Brian directed it. I'm going to reach
out to Brian because I have a few questions about
this one scene, and then maybe she reaches out to
a cast member. Then we look to see any articles
(51:50):
written about the show at the time. I look through
all my old emails to see if we were trading
emails about something at the time. I look through old photos.
We just we really dig deep into it and try
to find all the layers about that episode. And then
on Tuesday or Wednesday, I'll watch it again all the
way through, because now I have all this information, so
I'll watch it again to see if I missed anything,
(52:12):
if there's any background catch, if there was a fan question,
and then we record on Thursday. So typically I watch
an episode of The Office three times, the same episode.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
So you watch it how it aired. I watch it
how it.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Aired with no information. I just watch it just to
watch it, watch it, and then I watch it after
looking at the shooting draft. Yeah, our bloopers are deleted
scenes things like that.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, that's great, I mean that's that's that's going to
be a lot that you're going to miss. Then yeah
in a short few yeah week slash months.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Well, and then the other thing too that's interesting to
me is that you know, I'll watch an episode that
we prep three times, but a fan has seen the
episode seventeen times. You know, everybody knows the show way
better than we'll ever know it, Ryan, even with all
of our like unturning, like different behind the scenes information. Yeah,
(53:06):
but the actual episode, no one will ever know it
better than the true Office fan.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, it's so funny. He just reminded me.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
And I can't remember how many times it was, but
I had the opportunity to interview Billie Eilish and I
know you've talked to her and I whatever it was,
I posted about it online like she's watched it fourteen times.
It was fourteen or seventeen or something like that.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
It's like thirty something probably.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
And no, that was her. That was her number.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
And in all of the comments, all it was was
people making fun of her because she hadn't seen it enough.
Oh my goss, god, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Guys, back off, guys, come wow.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, because she knows it so well.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
She knows it very well. Yeah, she knows it very well.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
We did a like a quiz with her when she
was on Office Ladies, and she just skunked me and Jenna.
I mean, she skunked Jenna. I came in.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Second, rame in second.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Yeah, Rain would come significantly behind Jenna.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
I'll tell you that Rain is hilarious. Whenever we reach
out to him about an episode, we're like, hey, Rain,
this is an episode. You know Dwight had a really
big story arc in. What do you think about this?
You'd be like, Oh, yeah, I don't I don't know,
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
I know, I know, I know, I know, I remember.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
I talked to him and it was like within six minutes,
and I think he and I talked for almost two
and a half hours. Within six minutes, I had all
my pages, I had all this prep done, and my
brain went only macro questions, no micro quet like, no,
no specifics. Uh huh no, Yeah, it's yeah. Good for him.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
That was very Southern. That was kind of like, bless
his heart.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Bless is heard, good him, bless his heart.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
I have a new scoop to deliver to the world today.
Unless someone wrote a press release today, Uh, you and
your amazing husband Josh Snyder just sold.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
The cook book. Congratulations, thank you. What is it? What
is it about?
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Okay, So we have been wanting to do a cookbook
together for a long time. You know, I do that
amazing baker. You know this. You've been on our YouTube
series Begging with Josh Nan.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yes, both baking and cooking, just baking.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Oh well, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
We did Cooke, didn't we We made chili once.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
We made chili once. Yeah. So Josh has a ton
of recipes. He's a food blogger and he's awesome, and
we have our family favorites and our kids' favorites, and
we just really wanted to finally put all of our
favorite recipes and cookbook that we can share. And I'm
just so excited even just for our kids to have it.
(56:05):
So it's gonna be recipes plus little stories, slice of
life photos and stuff like that, and we're super super
excited about it.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
It's basically like Josh and Ange's family favorites.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yes, family favorite. That is not the title. I can't
release the title yet. Oh we're gonna have a big reveal.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
Okay, I understand that. But that's but that's amazing. I
love that idea.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Thank you. Well, you've done two cookbooks so.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Well one I'm in the I'm in the middle of it.
Speaker 3 (56:37):
No, I mean it's yes, I have the barbecue cookbook
that's coming out in a few months here, the Chili
cook book.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
I mean, it's it's work. It's a lot to get
it all together.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
You know. Right before I hopped on the podcast with you,
we had a phone call with our publisher and she
was going through the dates that we have to turn
things in and this, and I I could see Josh
doing that thing he does where when Like, for example,
we were in Scotland and we asked directions and this
guy talked for about ten minutes to us, and I
(57:10):
could tell Josh didn't know a single word he said.
He he gets this look in his eyes of like
uh huh huh. And so I mean he's very excited
about it. But like as we were listing things off,
I could see he was like, oh this this is
gonna okay and when when? And oh that's a lot okay.
So it's a ton of work. As you know, Jenna
and I's book, The Office BFFs. It took us three
(57:33):
years and seven months to write that book. Now, if
we did start writing it, we started writing it during
the pandemic, to be fair, and all of a sudden,
what I'm teaching, you know, fourth grade science. Are you
kidding me? Like we're homeschooling? Like I get a list,
I got it, I need a beaker and some string,
(57:54):
and I'm like, what am I doing? And I also
have to go write a book? Yeah, Brian, I should
say that, just so you know. We did. We did
tease it on the podcast on Office Ladies and that
came out last week. So I don't you're not we
don't care.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Okay, listen if I say it's breaking news.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
It's breaking news, it's breaking news. Okay, that's fine. I
just wanted you.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
To know it's okay. No, it's totally fine.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
I uh am so happy for your success. I'm so
happy that you're happy. More than anything, I'm happy that
you're happy and that you're enjoying it so much and
you're giving such joy to so many people.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
I'm uh, I'm just frying. No, I'm just so happy
for you.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
That makes that makes makes me. It's so sweet. I
just love you so much, Brian. We we weathered a
lot together over in that corner, and a lot of
laugh Oh my gosh, a lot of life happens in
nine years, and you were always there for me. You
were always there for me. And I just I just
adore you well.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
I love you too, and I so appreciate you coming
on celebrating the Office Ladies beginning season.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
Nine, the final season. It is, as they call it,
it's the final countdown.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
It's the final countdown.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Good luck.
Speaker 3 (59:20):
I can't wait to hear where the show's gonna go.
Yeah from there.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
We're very excited. We are super excited about it, and
we so appreciate our Office Lady's family, and we we
want to just keep doing it, keep doing it.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Well, I'm I'm really glad you are, And good luck
on the cookbook. If you need any if you need
any to I mean basically, all I.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
Told you was it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah, I might need might be more guidance than that.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
Find all right, I'll give you here. Here's here. Here's
my here's my biggest best piece of advice. This is
writing for writing a cookbook. Okay, find someone early to
do the forward.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Oh that's so smart, Brian, I hadn't even thought about
the forward.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Okay, good good.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Find somebody early to do the forward. Okay, they'll appreciate it.
And and yeah, because that's the one, because you're like
they give you know, if somebody gives you a deadline,
you have to do it. If somebody gives a theoretical
deadline for a thing that isn't quite figured out yet.
Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Oh oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yeah, well listen.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I loved being on here chatting with you. I'll come
back anytime because you're one of my favorite people on
the whole planet. And you guys out there listening, be
sure to write Peacock, give him a call, let him
know you'd like to see the accountants los oscar Ahlai Caban.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
There you go. Angela Kenzie, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Thank you, love you too.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I'll talk to you soon, Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Angela, I love you. Thank you so much for taking
some time with me today. Good luck finishing off the
rewatch of the Office and listeners. If you want to
hear us talk more, well, then you can go back
listen to Angela's episode on this podcast specifically about the office,
(01:01:39):
or you can go to Office Ladies listen to the
episode I was Casual Friday and many more.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
I will see you again right here, not this week again,
but next week, so make this one a good one.
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(01:02:08):
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