Elissa Goodman: 3 Health Secrets From Celebrities Favorite Nutritionist & 2 Health Trends You Are Wasting Your Money On

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The first seven year years of our life, our subconscious
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Jay Sheetty, Jay Shetty Selsy Only j shet Hey, everyone,
Welcome back to on Purpose, the place you come to
become happier, healthier, and more healed now. I love turning
my offline relationships people. I'm a fan of bringing them
onto the show and having the conversations where I'm speaking

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to a trusted expert. Today's guest is someone that I've
followed on social media for a few years now, and
anytime I have a question about a new supplement, a
vitamin A product, this is the person that I go
to to pick her brain to find out what she
has to say about it, and considering I trust her
so much offline, I thought I'd love to introduce you
all to her online. I'm speaking about Alisa Goodman, who's

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an integrative holistic nutritionist. Alissa had issues with her health
for her entire life, from cancer to autoimmune issues and
hashimotos in her thirties, which inspired her to take control
of her own health and the lives of people around
the world. Alissa has created her own delivered EG kitchen

(03:11):
cleans in La Alissa's EG Kitchen Cleans allows people to
have nourishing, vibrant, healing food delivered right to their doorstep.
Alissa has been seeing clients for a decade now and
is part of the healing journey for thousands of people
around the world. If you don't already follow her on
social media, you definitely will after this. If you're someone

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who wants to work on your health, if you're someone
who wants to get more connected with your body, and
if you're someone who wants to know how to cleanse
and detox, this episode is for you. Welcome to the show,
Alissa Goodman.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Thank you. What an introduction that was so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh well, I have so much more I could say,
but I stuck to the professional introduction. But we obviously
have a wonderful personal connection too, I know.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And I just I love what I do, so it
comes easy as you can imagine, you know, I just
I absolutely am obsessed with helping people get better.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I can see that. I mean, anyone who follows you
on social media will see it immediately, like it's so radiant,
a vibrant, so true to who you are. And I
think our audience is really going to find this fascinating
because I don't think we've ever had a cleanse expert
on the show before, and I wanted to start there, like, yeah,
what is a cleanse expert?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I know that's a great question because cleansing gets a
bad connotation. I mean, detox cleanse is all about deprivation, starvation,
and I would say that, you know, after I went
to school, Integrated Holistic school, I became a cleans person
for Cafe Gratitude M Cafe Erawuan, and I didn't know
what it was, but I actually created these cleanses for

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these restaurants and handheld the cleansers throughout the five days
or three days however long they were doing it and
found out their ailments, what worked for them, what didn't
work for them. One was vegan and one was you know,
macrobiotic from M Cafe. And it was a beautiful thing
because I saw in five days people can restore their body,

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reset their body, get better brain, you know, retention, better digestion,
just weight loss in five days like crazy, so feel better, energy, mood,
all of it. So it was really fascinating. I'm like, hm,
there's something to this cleansing, and so I decided that
it was those were a little bit more deprivation starvation.

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So I created a cleans nine years ago that wasn't
about that. There's a lot of food on it. It's
very anti inflammatory and it's giving you a lot of
like fifty different vegetables and over five days, so it's
super nurturing, nourishing, And that's what I'm trying to do
for people is really introduce them to vegetables and plants

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and foods that are grown from the earth and taking
away the inflammation. So that's what my cleans is all about.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Why do people need to go on a cleanse.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
It's because most people eat unhealthy you know, they eat
way too much processed food. They eat bad seed oils
that are out there. We're eating out a lot. You know,
we're stressed, so we're not even thinking about what we're eating.
We're eating on the run. There's just like a lot.
There's just the foods out there are have chemicals in
them and are toxic. So I think that you know,

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everybody's like not feeling well, they're not energized. The brain
fog is huge. Digestive issues are on the rise, autoimmune
issues like we talked about cancer, you know, all of it, diabetes,
and so they need to be reset. They need to
have you know, someone kind of help guide them. And
when you can deliver it to them so they don't

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have to cook it and don't have to meal prep it.
It's the ultimate.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
How often do we need to go on a cleanse
and how long does it need to be? How does
that impact.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
That's also a great question because you can do my
clans weekly. So because if you're it's mostly plant based,
there is a bone broth, but if you're vegan you
can do a vegan broth. But people have had a
client on there for a year and a half and
couldn't get off of it. Loved it until she moved
to London. So she just like, it's just really healthy food.

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So it's really cleansing. Is it's not about you know,
the detox and like like deprivation. It's about just feeding
the body and nourishing it and giving your microbiome what
it needs, the prebiotics, the probotics, you know, giving the
cells what it needs. Plant based food is as you know,
being what you know how you eat it, like, it

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really absorbs quickly into the system. Animal protein takes a
long time to digest, and I do eat some animal protein,
but plant based food goes through the system, absorbs really
quickly and can give you energy really fast.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's fascinating to me, isn't it. Because I think a
lot of us are walking around, as you said, not
feeling well, not feeling good, and we start to think
that's normal. And I remember feeling that way where I
just thought it was normal to get a headache, or
I thought it was normal to have calf pain, or
I thought it was normal that my gut wasn't healthy.

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Like I was just like, Oh, that's normal. I'm getting
older and I'm not even that old, and it's like
you just keep thinking, oh, this is normal, it's okay,
and you almost don't realize how good you can feel.
And over the last couple of years, I've changed a
lot about my diet, about my sleep, about my well
being routine, and I feel better than I've ever felt,
even better than five six years ago when I was younger.

(08:37):
And you're someone that I think inspires so many of
us in seeing how and I know you're working on
a new book too, called Proaging Hacks and the Ability
to Stay healthy for Longer. Talk to us about the
moments in your life. As I was talking about in
the introduction, You've gone through so much personal struggle and
pain which has shifted you in this direction. So does
that mean before that you didn't eat healthy and that

(08:59):
you didn't care woke us through down Melissa Goodman that
we don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, it was. You know when I was born, I
was born with this low white blood cell count so
that was I'm going to be sixty four in two weeks,
so after me, that's amazing. I was sixty years ago
and no one knew about how to build the immune system.
So like fast forward. I was sick all the time.
You know, I had two parents that were really Type A,

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and as a teenager and a young twenty year old adult,
they were running circles around me. So not only did
I physically feel bad, so I was seeing a lot
of sugar, caffeine, you know, just trying to keep my
energy up, but also emotionally, I was a little distraught
because I'm like, how are these older, you know, parents
running circles around me and I can't even keep up
with them. Mentally, it did a number on me, and

(09:46):
so I kind of just like, you know, tried to
keep up with everyone. And I was living the fast track.
I was, you know, that's what I grew up with,
making money, you know, being successful, move from Arizona to
New York, you know, worked in the advertising business. Was
just working around the clock, no sleep and really eating
really poor alcohol entertaining all of that, and I just

(10:10):
felt crappy all the time. And at one point when
I met my husband and we got married. I said
to him, We're moving west, and basically he was like
New Jersey, Like, no, I go, no, We're going to California.
I need sunshine. I need a slower way of life
because I grew up in Arizona. And thank God for that,
because when I landed in California and I got this

(10:33):
fantastic job with Vogue Magazine, I was diagnosed with Hatchi's lymphoma.
So I got all the accumulation of all my stress
and not feeling well and eating really poorly was the cancer.
And I was thirty two. Wow, I know, so I was.
I was getting a massage. I like you were saying,
I felt crappy all the time, so I didn't know what,

(10:53):
you know, feeling good felt like. And I'm sitting there
getting a massage with like sitting up right, and the
messuse felt a lympho on my collar bone and she's like,
that's not okay. You're not supposed to have a swollen
lymph node there. And so basically next thing I knew
it was cancer and I got really lucky. The messuse
was fantastic to find it early. And then I found

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this doctor who I went to a radiologist who said,
sat me down and was staged by that time, and
he said, you know, are you happy? Do you love
what you do for living? Do you love your life?
Do you love yourself? You know? What's your stress? Like?
What's your sleep? Like? That was thirty years ago. Doctors
still don't say that today, which blows my mind because

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cancer is on the rise and all of these things.
So like he he made me feel at peace, Like
he goes, we got to get your emotional well being
back in control and like get you to a better place,
which I did. I dove into all of that, and
then I dove I became a vegan, and I was
really lucky. I was in California and there was missus
Gooch's before Whole Food, so the food, you know, there

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was a grocery store that was beautiful and organic, organic meats.
Everything was like healthy, farmed to a table. And then
I went and juiced all the time. I juiced every
single day and did all the modalities here yoga, you know,
self help. Went to see a therapist and I got
my shit together, thank god. And then I went on

(12:18):
to have you know, two really healthy girls. And but
after I did do some radiation. I chose not to
do the chemo because of my immune system, and I
knew my instincts told me that that was going to
take me down. So I did half of the radiation.
My oncologists fired me because he said, you're not doing
what I'm supposed to, what I'm trying to tell you

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to do, and so I found someone to do half
the radiation. And the radiation gave me hypothism, gave me hashimotos, celiac,
all these other illnesses, anxiety, things that I hadn't had before, insomnia.
So I basically like the radiation was awful, but I

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basically on to have the girls. And then eleven and
a half years later, I my husband was diagnosed with cancer.
So it's a crazy time. I mean, I got really
healthy for that period after the cancer and for a while,
and then I kind of went back into the unhealthy
world a bit more. I didn't stay on that track,
and so when he got cancer, you know, I realized,

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oh my god, two parents who have cancer, and watching
him pass away in a year and a half, that's
when I really took it seriously. After he passed away
at forty five, I'm like, this has to be serious.
And that's like basically when I realized, you know, I
have to really get healthy because I didn't have any energy.
I was like my stamina was low because life with

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him was really crazy for a year and a half
in and out of the hospital. So and I watched
him go from a healthy man to a very unhealthy
you know, and pass away of fungal pneumonia. So the
cancer didn't get him, it was his immune system. And
I followed the protocols of like healthier eating and all
those modalities when I was sick, but he didn't do

(14:05):
that as much. He really was scared and that he
just did what other what the doctor said. So it
was like a very different story. So thank God, Like
then that's when I took it a step further and
I really started getting healthy. And so ever since now,
you know, years later, almost eighteen years later, I feel
better than I did when I was in my twenties. Wow,

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because of all the modalities.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Thank you for sharing that, because I can't even begin
to imagine what a challenging journey that is personally and
then in a relationship as well. What have you found
and what have you discovered as you've been studying because
I think you know a lot of people will say, well, no,
I need to get the radiation. I need to do
what my doctors are saying. You obviously had a different

(14:51):
confidence and an intuition around how you wanted to heal yourself.
And I think ultimately it comes down to how people
want to heal themselves. What have you found works at
different stages? What have you seen across other patients who
are struggling with cancer? Like, what have you seen? What
have you witnessed and observed?

Speaker 2 (15:10):
It's been fascinating, Jay, because I have seen stage four
heel cancer heal without using Western modalities, And it really
is a mindset as you are tuned into. You know,
it's distressing, it's like releasing trauma. It's really getting into
your subconscious and rewiring. It is believing in yourself and

(15:34):
having the confidence that you can heal from anything. I
do believe you can heal from anything almost so I
feel like we got to believe it, and most people
don't believe they can. And most people don't believe that
they love themselves. They don't admire who they are, they
don't love themselves. Their self esteem is low. So I
would say That is the biggest thing. When I ask

(15:56):
clients all the time, you know, when they have cancer,
do you love yourself? And they're like, no one's asked
me that question, And I'm like, you know, that's something
we really got to work on. You know, do you
have peace in your life? Those are the things that
totally change my life, all of those things, finding love,
finding peace, you know, you know, not labeling myself as

(16:17):
sick kid, because I had labeled myself and all the
people around me as a you know, young adult. I
was a sick kid because I was always getting sick.
So we label ourselves, you know, when we have trauma
in those early years, or we're just not in a
good place, you know, growing up, we do label ourselves.
And those are the things we've got to rewire. I
have found that to be number one. You know, one

(16:40):
of my favorite books, Radical Remission, Radical Hope by Kelly Turner,
you know, the Heel documentary. All those things are beautiful
in terms of like talking about that, and also just
then I would say it comes to the food. Food
is medicine, as we know, so people you know, eating nourishing,
you know, vegetables, plants, you know, foods, that are grown

(17:01):
from the earth. That's where you know, from the sunshine,
like energy wise, that's a beautiful thing. I've always been
a big juicer for thirty years and I've been juicing
ever since. I've taken some breaks, but I almost can't
live without it, and so juicee Greens has been, like,
I think a lifesaver for me, you know, because I
feel like that's my multi vitamin.

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(18:07):
so that they can practice it. So you've been a
juice it for so long, walk us through how to juice,
what to juice, why to juice, and what the benefits are.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I know, I know because there's a lot of like
controversy about juicing. It's like all the nutrients are taken out.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Of it, you know, correct, I'm hearing that a lot.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, and the fiber and all of that. But you know,
I was a purist, so I would juice and drink
it right away, so I feel like, you know, I
was able to, and I would do a cold press juice.
I wouldn't do heat. So that's also the nutrients stay
intact with the cold press, so I love that. Nowadays,
I'm just throwing them in a blender because I do

(18:44):
love the fiber so that you know, doesn't take out that. Also,
the nutrients is fast and I love having all that fiber.
So I think people just don't eat enough vegetables. I'm
trying to get clients city cup ten eight to ten
cups of vegetables a day, and that is their eyes
glazed over, like how the hell do I do that?
And juiceing you can get four to five easily throwing

(19:07):
them in and I do cucumber, celery, lemon, ginger, spinach,
super easy things and sometimes not so expensive. You know,
people think it's like very arduous and got to have
all those vegetables, and you know it could be easy.
Celery is huge in terms of the minerals. Cucumbers, super hydrating,
cleansing for the kidneys. Celery cleanses your gut, cleanses your liver.

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I mean, you know, spinach is full of iron, so
ginger is you know, antibacterial lemon. I mean, they're just
beautiful things. And I think it just wakes me up
every day and like gives me and also how skin
and digestion and all that. So I think it's a
beautiful way to start the day.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
And you're having that fascon in the morning, that's that's
what you have on an empty summit, right, and you've
just done that for yours. Yeah, yeah, I found that too.
I remember when celary juice became, you know, had its
way a few years ago now, I feel, and I
remember trying it out, and I've still not found something
better than celary juice.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
So you just too straight celery juice.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Generally, well, I'll probably do like celery with a bit
of apple in it, just to give it a bitter sweetness, right,
just to make it easy to do, yes, exactly, for
me to enjoy it. Usually I would just stick to
celery in the beginning, but then I was like, Okay,
I need to enjoy this a little bit, and so
a little bit of apple in it would be perfect,
but just enough, just enough, not too much. And to me,

(20:26):
that's been one of my favorite things that has helped
my gut heel so much, and I find it to
be such a powerful practice.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
So I read who brought the celery juice? Crazon was
the medical medium, right, We've had him on the show
yes and years ago. I was working with him as well,
and he was the one who really did help me
get past my autommune issues. So I started the celery
juice like four or five years ago when it all
just started, and you know, I was wondering, like, why
is this celery juice so powerful? And I started clients

(20:55):
on it as well, and I realized there was a
like like a little bit of a trick to it
in terms of it's super hydrating. And I find that
hydration is like really an epidemic right now. Dehydration is crazy.
And celery has is full of minerals, you know, and
also like is great with probiotics and things like that,

(21:16):
but the mineral content a celery is huge. So people
are drinking a celary juice wondering like how am I
feeling so good? But it's hydrating them. So people just
don't get up in the morning. And I always say
it kind of blows my mind. I say people, I
have to have a mandatory of two cups of water,
just sixteen ounces of water before their coffee or their

(21:36):
tea or anything cafe caffeinated. And they're like, well, that's easy,
but I don't do it. And then they call me
back and go, well, that was life changing, just two
cuffs of water. I'm like, you paid me to tell
you to drink two cups of water. That's crazy. But
the celery juice is the same thing. It's super hydrating.
When you're dehydrated, nothing works right. You know, your adrenals

(21:56):
aren't working, your cortosol and your adrenaline are rising. You
know you're not going the bathroom regularly, your brain can't work.
You think you're hungry, Like it really is like an
epidemic and we have all this beautiful water at our fingertips,
but we just don't have minerals.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
You know what, I've not actually thought about that. I
don't think we've ever heard anyone say that so clearly,
because again, like you said, it sounds so obvious, right,
but most of us are not drinking close to enough water.
And like you're saying, the minerals that actually come from
the earth grown vegetables that naturally are filled with the
impact with it.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, the plants and like dooms and complex carbs too.
People are kind of anti cars when they want to
lose weight, but they're full of minerals, so when they
also calm the central nervous system down.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
What are some examples of those?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Those are legomes and beans, you know, and also like
i'd say, some really good rice's quene wah, sweet potatoes, squash,
all of those things, you know, wild rice, black rice.
I mean, those are beautiful complex carbs also great for
the guid as well.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, what have you seen about because
what we're really talking about here, like you said, the
client that calls you up after doing it, and so
I can't believe it worked. And I can't believe I
paid you for that, et cetera, that that idea, it
seems like and even for you, like you know, you
went through this terrible experience yourself. You know, the radiation

(23:22):
caused more challenges. You know, you go through the tragic
loss of a partner like who's you know also suffering
from this, and and you say that's what woke you up.
And I think a lot of us, it's it's hard
to think that a lot of us. And I guess
that's why you do what you do, is you don't
want people to wait for personal loss in order to

(23:43):
get serious about their health and wellbeing. But if I
find that as humans, we're so bad at changing our
habits and we're so quick to forget even pain. And
I remember this like not in not in an close
to the extremes that you have had, but I've had
different reminders in my health when my body's slowed down

(24:05):
or fallen apart, or I've needed a surgery or whatever
it may be. And it's so quick, like you know,
a couple of months later, you're eating all the stuff
again and you're just happy that you're back to being normal,
and you just let yourself go again, and then again
you get another wake up call. And for me, I
think what really got me serious was last year I
said them with my doctor I've had on the show,
Darshan Shah, and when we looked all my bloods and everything,

(24:29):
he said to me, Jay, this is not your fault
because your diet seems to be good, but because of
your genetic makeup, your predisposed diabetes and cholesterol, and so
even though you don't eat fried food and oily food
and you don't eat that much sugar comparatively, you're just
more predisposed to it. And when I heard that, I
was like, all right, got it, Like I need to
now be serious about my health. And I feel like

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that was towards the end of last year where I
just really got dialed in. But it's almost like a
lot of us wait for pain in order to get proactive.
And I guess the reason you do what you do
is to not let people wait for pain, because that's
just so painful and challenging. Yeah, what have you learned
about habit change when you're working with your clients. What
is it that really helps people change? What are some

(25:12):
of the hacks, What are some of the habits that
have transformed people's lives.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
That's so good, I know, because I think since COVID
people are now starting to take their hells more serious.
Thank God for that. And also you're right, like the
diabetes is on the rise, Like blood sugar issues are
crazy out of control. So like when I work with
my clients, I would say, like you what you were
saying earlier, you know, with next health and all of

(25:37):
that is like I'm now doing blood work with my
every client I do blood work on. I'm doing really
thorough blood work. I'm even doing heavy metals, all the
metabolic you know, thyroid, all the hormones, even if they're young,
and I'm seeing such fascinating things. Everybody's blood sugar is
too high. It's not pre diabetic yet, but it's very close.

(25:58):
They're thyroids out of whack. Their insulin levels are too high,
their quartersol is too high. You know, it's wild. They
got heavy metals, so they're heading towards health issues. And
I feel like that has been the coolest thing lately
for me to be in the last year doing that
because I'm catching these things before they get unhealthy. I

(26:20):
know they don't feel good and they're lethargic, and they're
not sleeping well, and they have hormone issues, but there's
something behind it if they are eating healthy, you know,
like there is something physical, like you found and that
has been game changing. Like to be able to you know,
get their bl sugar under control, to get their thyroid
working again, to also get their hormones working better before

(26:42):
they even go into menopause has been huge. So I
feel like those you know, those things have been life changing.
The blood work stuff and do it at once a
year amazing and great for the clients, Like it's not
expensive to do with me. Also then it it's about,
you know, really one thing at a time. So like

(27:03):
we talked about like maybe getting them hydrated the first week.
Secondly you know, maybe getting them eating more plant based foods.
Of course, the sleep is crucial, like people aren't sleeping enough,
and also getting them sleeping better and helping them to
sleep better. You know, there's a lot of modalities you know,
in terms of getting healthy. But I don't want to

(27:23):
overwhelm them, so I tried desperately not to overwhelm them,
you know, with giving them too much off the bat.
I mean, I am a supplement junkie. I've been like
dabbling with supplements since I had cancer. Now it's a
billion dollar business and there's too many out there, and
there's a lot of crappy supplements out there. So I
do feel really lucky that I've dabbled it in a

(27:46):
long time, so I know what's good and what isn't.
And I had to also deal with it myself. So
I take a lot of supplements and I figure out
what works for me and what doesn't, and I muscle
testing them on myself and all of that, and I
try to teach my clients to muscle test the some
moments on them. What's a muscle Okay, so this is fascinating.
You have never heard of this. I feel like I

(28:07):
thought it next health they do that. Maybe not, but
you actually stick a supplement like on your gut, or
you can hold it and actually it's kind of like
Eastern medicine. You know, either you hold your hand out
and somebody pushes your hand down if you're with somebody, Okay,
that's muscle testing. How you do it on yourself is
you put it on your gut and you stand like

(28:28):
kind of like try to balance yourself and stand upright,
and then you say, hey, is this be complex right
for me? And then your body moves forward if yes,
and back if no, and then you say should I
take one? Should I take two? And your body tells
you everything. It's so in tune.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
We were born with these incredible instincts, and we lose
touch with them, right like we lose touch like along
the way with all the things that have gone on
in our life. And it's the same thing with food,
with supplements, with what we need to do to heal
ourselves and where we want to be in our lives
is all instinctual. So the instincts are huge, So I

(29:08):
try to teach them that as well.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's so interesting, isn't it, Because I feel like we've
become so distrusting of our bodies. Yeah, because we've been
told to trust someone or something else. And of course
we do need guides, we need experts, we need doctors,
you know. And I'm not discouraging anyone from any of
those things. I'm just saying that I think claiming back
some of that in the same way as when you
eat something, you know whether your body is accepting or

(29:32):
rejecting it based on how it's feeling. And of course,
if your digestion is strong, then it gives you the
best sense. Sometimes if your digestion is weak, it may
not give you the best marker. But when you're talking
about vitamins and supplements, walk us through in a practical sense,
how does someone make a choice? What do they need
to read on the back of a box or a

(29:54):
bottle with vitamins and supplements, Like what should they be
looking for and what should they be looking at? Make
sense of it from a technical standpoint, not just the
intuition standpoint.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, that's a great question, because you want to have
as least fillers and additives in that supplement as possible.
And so filler is like something that just fills up
the supplement, you know, it's like a you know, crystalline
cellulose is a is a filler. Not all the supplement
is going to be the B complex. But they need

(30:26):
other things, you know, to bind the bees, you know,
for the for you to be able to digest them.
So a lot of times, you know, or like it's
expensive to have the supplement be all you know, liposolmals
C or B or whatever, vitamin D. So a lot
of times they add that the additives so that it
isn't as costly. So it really is a struggle because

(30:48):
a lot of people don't do well with these additives
and they don't know that. So micro crystalline cellulus is
one that's in a lot of supplements and it gives
you digestive issues if you're taking too many. So you
could see a lot of people supplements and they can
all have microcrystalline cellulose. I mean it's wild so it
or soy lesse than you know, or just these added

(31:09):
just like in foods. You know, it kind of maintains
the shelf life of the supplement as well. So it's
hard to find supplements without that because they're costly and
a lot of people can't afford that. So that's why,
you know, I try to go more like with the
food and that you know, lead with the food and
then supplements come second. But there are some settlements out

(31:30):
there that we absolutely do need. You know, Vitamin D
is one of them. I mean since COVID, the studies
that have been done on vitamin D and especially liposomal
D because liposomal is a fossil lipid outside of a
you know, supplement and basically is better to absorb easier
to absorb like lipelsomal C and lepelsomal glutathia on all
those things. And so basically, you know D. When you

(31:54):
raise your D levels, you can lower your cholesterol. Actually,
you raise your D levels, it's better for immune system,
it's better for cognitive function. People don't realize that there's
a vitamin D cell receptor in every cell in your body.
So you know, there's that, it's omega threes, it's you know,
it's magnesium, and like there's certain things out there be

(32:15):
complex for stress.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, I don't. One thing I definitely didn't realize until
I really got on a good regime of supplements and
vitamins was just how much harder I was working to
feel good like it was. I just thought it was
a mental battle, and so I was fighting the mental
battle every day with meditation and mindfulness and everything else.
And then I realized I was like, actually, I would
have been a much better meditator if I just took

(32:39):
supplements of vitamins early on, because then your body's actually
helping you with that focus and with the physical activity
or movement and exercise, right whether it's hiking or sport
or whatever it may be. And it's so funny now
that you're naming all these things, I'm like, I've seen
all these things on the backs and never known what
that means. And it's so easy to just feel so uneducated.

(33:02):
And I've definitely felt that way in this space. You know,
without having good people around you, it's so hard to
really know whether what you're doing is good for you
or not. Walk us through like if we took a
random stack of snacks right now, and I don't want
to pick on any brands or anything like that in
any way, but if you were to teach someone how

(33:22):
to read the back of a snack pack, what should
they be looking out for? Because this is something that
I believe has changed the way I snack, and I generally,
i'd say my diet is like maybe I don't know
at this point, like five percent processed or packaged foods
in any if that, probably when I'm traveling, I'll have

(33:43):
like a protein bar that I travel with or something
like that. But generally it's it's not I'm on the
whole food's diet and everything else. But it wasn't that
way before. I used to think that if I ate
healthy snacks then that was okay. So I would eat
package goods and the fifty percent of my diet was
package goods, or maybe thirty percent. Walk us through what

(34:05):
we should be looking out for, because I think so
much is hidden on these.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, it's the same thing as the supplements. You know,
there's a laundry list of things on the back of
the snack, you know, box or bag or whatever that
you don't even recognize, right, Like it's just I mean,
they're like, you know, certain dies that are bad for us,
and like going back to the soy lesson than like
soy lesson is really bad for us everywhere.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
It's so funny, I've pronounced that one for them my
whole life now that you've told me.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I mean, I love soy whole soy products, but you know,
when it's processed down to that, it's bad. It's like
the bad seed oils that's omega sixes and nines and
like really causing inflammation. So again, if it's a laundry
list of things that you don't recognize, like that kind
of is a no go. I mean, you know, we'll
let's talk about some of the things we know like

(34:54):
plant milks, you know, they're they've been huge for years.
Right now, there's think there's better healthier plant milks out there.
They're just almonds and sea salt and water, like those
are the things to look for, something that's just simple.
Even the cheeses, you know, I do love some of
the plant based foods and cheeses and some of the

(35:14):
fake meats, but again they could have a lot of
bad stuff in them. So it's like, you know, I
sometimes you just got to go for the less is more.
Even the protein bars too, you know, every so often
it's not bad to have some of these things that
do have these you know, all these things in them,
because you're not going to be perfect. But I would

(35:36):
say seventy five percent time, eighty percent of the time
to try to look for, you know, those things on
the back and just try to do things with less
additives because your system doesn't know how to process, it
doesn't know how to digest it. And the more you
add these additives into your body, I think more toxic
you become. And also the digestive system, like the digestive

(36:00):
issues are crazy out of control. Like I created a
digestive cleans because it's been like everybody has digestives. Everybody
calls me like my every time I eat, I get bloated.
You know, I can't eat anything now, or I can't
go to the bathroom, like the constipation for days on end,
like it's really crazy, or the other side of it,

(36:21):
where they're going in the bathroom too much. That's an epidemic,
like the hydration.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, so you're saying when you're looking at if you're outside,
you're looking for snacks and products, it's like less ingredients, yep,
simple ingredients and real ingredients, basically things that you actually
know what they are. If you don't know what they are, right,
that's probably a sign that And the problem is it
doesn't taste as good though, no it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Know.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
I had a protein by the other day because I
was an expo and I had a protein by and
I was like, oh great, like this literally had three
ingredients on it. I was so excited to eat it,
and I tried it and it was so bad compared
to the one that I've been programmed to love, which
has all the other thirty things that you'd say I
shouldn't eat and are not good for me. And it's
so frustrating because I'm like I wish I was trained

(37:07):
to believe that whole natural foods were tasty and healthy.
Whereas because I've been so spoiled by my taste buds
have been ruined by all of this other stuff that
now feels captivating and exciting and tasty.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, most of America has, you know, right, I mean
the sugar in these things. Like you know, there's a
lot of sugar in these bars and in these milks
and cheeses or whatever it is. Because things don't taste
so great when they are on that simple side. You know,
there's a lot of salt, there's a lot of sodium,
so to make them taste better.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Walk us through. So walk us through the core needs
that people come to you so that you said they
do it. There's a gut cleanse. Walk us through the
different cleanses that cleansed in their life.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
So the regular cleans is really I'll tell you a
little bit about what's on it. There's a detox tonic
on it with coconut cafir, which is a probiotic drink.
I am a big fan of probotics, and I love
coconut kaffirs. Cocoa and there's a lot of great products
out there on the market. Then it has chlorophyll, apple,
side of anegar lemon, ginger and there, and then there's

(38:13):
my homemade super seed bar. Then you basically get a
bone broth or a vegan broth. Our bone broth is
really gelatinous and so there's a lot of collagen, which
I love. And then we get you get different salads
for the week, different salad dressings, fermented vegetables. You get
different soups for the for the nighttime, and then you
get lattes for the evening. Then you also get digestive

(38:35):
enzymes and you get magnesium, so to make sure that
everything's working properly, because people going from an animal protein
diet into a plant based legoos and beans can disrupt
their stomach and also a lot of vegetables can as well.
So there's that one. There's a three day so with that.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
One, wous So are you encouraging people to not have
dinners in that is that this.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Soup is dinner, yes, or they have super lunch and
do the salad for dinner, So it's not super strict.
A lot of people who exercise a ton will add
a little bit of animal protein you know, to the
meal potentially, and it doesn't take you away from the cleans.
So again you're just getting tons of vegetables. You're getting
anti inflammatory, you know, nourishing, nurturing foods, So that you

(39:23):
know that one is like my regular one that has
been going on for nine years. Sometimes it blows my
mind because the Tonic's been on there for nine years.
The bar has been on there, like it's crazy that
things are still popular. People buy the tonics and the
bars separately. And then the gut cleanse has activated charcoal
on there. So what activated arcole? So I love activated

(39:45):
tarcole because it lowers bacterial loads in your gut.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Wait, how do you eat activated chocolate? You take a pill, right.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
You can. You can put it in a drink and
you know, you get to put it in the detox
onic or in water or whatever. But you take it's
a pill. It's it's a very strong pill. And I
have found when I had insulin resistant clients who couldn't
lose weight, you know, weight resistant clients, their insulin was high,
their gut bacteria was too high. So I would put

(40:12):
them on five days of activated turcole and lower their
insulin levels, which was like fantastic. So that's how the
gut cleans came about. So they get activated charcoal, they
still get the enzymes, they get the magnesium, but they
get chia pudding, they get sour kraut, they still get
the detox tonic. They don't get the bar because a
little too much sugar. I don't want sugar for them
because the bacteria. And then they get everything else that's

(40:35):
pretty similar. And the nighttime is a tuls t you
know that Holy basil is one of my favorites. It's
anti inflammatory and great for the gut, great for sleep.
So that's my that's the other cleans that I love.
And so what I'm trying to do for people is
really clean them out. Those clients are the ones that
have a little bit of constipation issues, like aren't going

(40:56):
to the bathroom regularly, and they're by the end of
the week they're going two and three times a day. Wow,
Like that's another crazy thing because people go, yeah, once
a day. They that's considered constipated these days. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
So we'll us through that because that's always like an
uncomfortable topic for you know, it's something that people don't
talk about. But I mean, I don't think we've even
we're getting to the point of understanding how important that
the digestive system is and how often should be people
going to the restroom, what what should be the healthy

(41:32):
way of going about the area of their life.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, you know, once a day is good, twice is great,
three is perfect. So we really because we don't get
enough fiber, because we don't get enough hydration, because we're stressed.
Because when we're stressed, our digestive system completely shuts down.
We are not being able to digest our food. So

(41:56):
and also we're eating a lot of animal protein. So
it takes you know, fourteen hours to get through the
small intestine cow and animal protein, and ninety minutes for
plant based food, which is crazy. So we're just so
for plant based food it takes ninety minutes to get
through the small intestine. For cow and animal protein, it
takes fourteen hours. So we're you know, we're eating eggs

(42:19):
for breakfast and chicken for lunch and salmon for dinner. Like,
so we're just like, not that it's bad for you,
but we're just we're not getting hydration, we're not getting fiber.
You know, we're we're not doing the other things. We're
not sleeping. Sleeping is very detoxifying and helping us with
our digestive system. So yeah, so we're supposed to be
kind of like an animal and going after every meal

(42:41):
and people are a little bit like, oh, please don't
tell me bad.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, wow, I know. It's it's interesting how interconnected it
all is though, Like you talked about hydration earlier, we're
talking about the gut now. Like it's it's fascinating because
it's almost like even for me. I was talking to
a friend about it this morning and we were just
talking about like we're like, okay, we want to get proteins,
but then if I'm eating this because as a plant
based person, to get proteins hard, it's also that way around, right,

(43:06):
So you're trying to get a protein in your diet,
but then it's like, well, maybe that particular item doesn't
sit well with my gut and doesn't make me feel good,
and so you're also finding that as well. Right, Like
it's it's not as simple as like, well this is
really great for everyone, right, It's so individual.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
It's not a one size fits all, right, and I
do believe in you know, if you're vegan, I can
help someone get enough protein or vegetarian or you know,
animal protein. For me, I grew up eating animal protein,
so I you know, I feel like I need that,
and I feel like as i've aged, I feel like
I need more amino acids. But sometimes it certain animal

(43:43):
proteins don't agree with me. So I do take digestive
enzymes before I eat animal protein so I can digest it.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
So I mean, well, do you take your digestice.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
I love this enz of Metica digest gold at pro
is one of my favorites. It's on the cleanse, but
you can also get it from apple side vinegar. You
but also get it from bitter greens like daniline, greens
of arugula, en dive ridiculo. So sometimes I'll just take
a handful of arugula before I eat a meal. It's
really crazy, and I'll wake up your enzymes really yeah,

(44:14):
I know. Or after a meal, if you kind of
have a digestive issue, you could take some arugula and
eat it. I know it sounds very strange, but or
have some apple cider vinegar, or take an enzyme after
the meal. It doesn't have to be before the meal.
So know a lot of tricks that people sometimes don't
know because digestion can be an issue. And I also
don't overdo the animal protein, Like I'm not having like

(44:36):
eight to ten to twelve ounces of something, you know,
I'm having like three to four ounces, so that's like,
you know, thirty forty grams of protein. So I feel
like nowadays protein is the hot topic. Like you know,
some people feel like you need to get a gram
per body weight, but I'm really someone who feels like,
you know, seventy seventy five grams for women is great.

(45:00):
So that's kind of easy to do.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
And of course it impacts based on your workout.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Exactly and everything else. Yeah, yeah, and hoping that you
do digest you know, what you're eating, that's important.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I've found that adding in the beginning, adding protein to
my diet felt heavy on my digestion, but actually it's
now led to better digestion. But it took. It took
this like transition point where I was like, God, that's
really heavy, Like it's harder to digest in the beginning, Yeah,
even though it should be helping me. But then I
feel like it's it's just staying committed to it. My

(45:33):
digestion's got used to it. Is that natural? Do you
find that that's.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
The same with legooms and beans because people will go
on the cleans and be like, I can't eat likeagoms
and beans. They're not used to that because they're animal
protein eaters, and most of us have been animal protein eaters.
I feel like most people I talk to they just don't.
They feel like big beans and legooms are gassy and
are hard to digest, but the more you eat them,
the easier they are in the system. Yeah, your digestive

(45:58):
system gets you know, used to it, right. It has
kind of wild.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
What are some of the biggest mistakes you see people
making when it comes to the health and wellbeing that
you've kind of noticed as trends over the years that
these seem to just be the things that trip people up.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
That's such a great question because there's so many. But
I would say, you know a lot of people are
over supplementing interesting. Yeah, they are, like on social media
TikTok or Instagram, and they're seeing all these influencers who
are great at what they do, but they're promoting all
these different products and they have no idea if that

(46:36):
product is right for them, so they're buying it. So
all all like see cupboards and like suitcases of people
who have all these supplements and they're taking them and
they don't feel good. They're not really making them feel better.
So but the the person who's promoting is that this
is gonna have this is going to change your life, right,
So that's huge. Also, like what's also hard is basically

(47:02):
like following the prototo like gluten free, you know or
not everybody needs to be gluten free or like dairy
free or all of those things, so you know, or
they're not gluten free. The other side of it, you know,
they're just not like eating, like they're not taking gluten.
Now the diet because it's inflammatory or dairy or sugar.

(47:23):
Sugar is a huge one. So people really feel that sugar.
You know, they can have a little sugar, some people can't.
So I think food wise, it's like there's so many
misconceptions of what they should or shouldn't be doing and
they should be gluten free or not or dairy free
or maybe like you know, should they be could they

(47:44):
have some sugar or not? Just it depends on like
what their blood sugar is, what their gut is happening.
I'm seeing a lot of that the supplements. I also
see that people are overexercising too, like they're like doing
Berry's boot Camp and spin Claus and their corsal and
adrenaline is so high and they're so stressed and their

(48:05):
adrenals are fatigued, and it's just making them more tired.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
That's why you have to be observing the three sixty.
And that's what's so hard about it, because you could
look great right and then still feel terrible and be
super stressed out because it's kind of like, I mean,
we were having this conversation offline, which you know, last
night I played pickaball for two hours. It was super physical.
I think everyone's uh, you know, everyone's fitness tracks said

(48:31):
that we burnt like one hundred calories last night playing
for two hours. But I came back and my body
temperature was really high, and so when I got into bed,
and as I was telling you, my AC unit wasn't working,
so I couldn't lower the temperature in the bedroom and
my house gets quite hot, so I had a high
body temperature and the temperature of the room was probably

(48:52):
like seventy eight, which is super high. And so then
now it was so hard for me to sleep. And
I remember, while I struggling to sleep, I just started
researching body temperature and why it was hard to sleep
and all the rest of it. And that's all I
was saying. And I was thinking, this is so interesting
because I could be thinking, oh, it's because I'm stressed
about something or I've got loads on and it's like, well, no,
it's just body temperature and the temperature of my room.

(49:14):
And it's challenging because I think that, you know, food
is such a source of joy, It's such a source
of excitement for so many people, and yet now when
you start really getting into it can become such a
source of stress and such a source of pressure. Like
oh my god, I'm meaning too much of this, I'm
meaning too little this, Like oh no, I didn't meal
prep this week, and oh no, now like I didn't

(49:37):
get it. Oh I forgot to take my vitamins. Like
I think we're so stressed about being healthy. How have
you made sense of that? Because I can find when
i'm you know, when I'm having this conversation, there's a
part of me. I've been through the ups and downs
of that where I've been like God, I hate dealing
with my health right because it's so stressful. And now
I'm in a better place with it. But that's taken

(49:58):
a long, long, long, long, long time to even recognize
that healing journey of realizing I'm doing this because I
love myself. I'm doing this because I believe in myself.
I'm doing this because I love my body, I love
my heart, I love myself, which is why I get
to do this. But that has taken a long time,
even for me. So walk us through how people can

(50:19):
balance that stress to be healthy when it should be
making us less stressed.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
I know, that's another good one. It's just like this
over supplementing and like you know, you walk into Airwan
and you like talk about stress. There's all this you know,
healthy beautiful food, and you don't know what to choose, right,
It's like, oh my god, Like there's so much out there.
It's just overwhelm and I feel like, you know, you've

(50:46):
just got to get back in tune with yourself and
you've got you know, you can't overdo anything. I think
you've got to go back to the basics. You know,
you just got to go back to eating real food.
Try to do that. You've got to know if the
supplements are disturbing, you just do less. Just do the
basics of what you need. You know, a multi vitamin,

(51:06):
vitamin D, magnesium, just simple things. You've got to hydrate,
you know, you got to sleep. Like just like you
can't like get all worked up over these things because
you're right, you're not going to do them. You're just
like not going to do them. Like I find people
just being like this is way too much. You want
it to be simple. You want them to feel better,

(51:27):
you want them to see results, So less is more.
And I feel like, you know, we have become a
society where we're doing way too much and we just
we got to pull back. We got to just we
got to believe in ourselves. I think, you know, with
the meditation, Like I'm a huge meditator, and that's so
helpful for me because I'm a type a personality and

(51:49):
I'm always like go, go go, and I got to
get shit done. But when I pull back and I
meditate and I do yoga and I chill out, like
then everybody, my mind tells me what I need, you know,
because I could do that too. I can oversupplement. I can,
you know, be really like uptight about why I went
to this restaurant and they didn't have gluten free pizza

(52:12):
or you know, or wild damon. I remember ordering that
stuff and my whole family be like, oh my god,
we can't eat with you because you're such a pain
in the ass. But now I'm just like, Okay, who cares,
you know, but I do. You do have to kind
of like get back in touch with and reconnect your
mind with your body and be like, Okay, what works
for me? You know, I can't like you can't. You

(52:35):
can't go crazy about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
How have you allowed yourself to fall in love with
yourself and your body and your heart and your mind
again and again and again. When the body gets older,
it changes, it transitions, it shifts, like what what have
what has been like your what has been your your
inner practice to keep that?

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
It's I'm asking, yeah, yeah, this is.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
A question, Yeah, this is this is fascinating. But you know,
when I did figure it out, like at fifty eight
years old, I did plant medicine, so I did psilocybum
and journey, and I really did see what my subconscious

(53:23):
was doing to me. My subconscious was, you know, still
labeling me a sick kid, always fearful. I was looking
over my shoulder that another illness was going to come
along the way. I was never going to be healthy.
I didn't even know what calm or self love felt like,
you know. So that really I saw what I was
doing to myself. And I also felt a sense of

(53:46):
peace and calm with that. So once I was able
to release all of those you know, subconscious feelings that
weren't working for me anymore, I grabbed onto the ones
that I was like, Okay, I want that calm, I
want that self love more. And that's what really got
me in touch with it. And then that's when when
I meditate, I can go back to that place where

(54:08):
I was when I did some plant medicine to get
me past that hump. I had done a lot of therapy,
I've done a lot of reiki, a lot of meditation,
and a lot of energy healing crystals, all the stuff,
But that was really the place that put me over
the edge to really get me to a place where
I could recapture, you know, and really find that calmness

(54:30):
and happiness, and like that's felt so incredible, that feeling.
So I journal a ton, you know, I do have
to journal and talk about what frustrates me during the
day to let go of it, and then I talk
about what I'm grateful for. That's huge. The meditation's huge,
the yoga's huge. Just like also getting out in nature

(54:53):
is absolutely huge. I mean we haven't talked about this
at all, but you know, and you probably do this,
you know, getting out in morning sun is a practice
that is just incredible, Like it boosts your moon. It
actually helps with depression, you know, it helps with immune system,
it helps lower blood sugar and blood pressure, and it's

(55:14):
like a beautiful way to start your day. The sun
is so incredible. So that those are and then I
just feel like so hopeful because the sun comes up
every day, right, you know, it goes down, it comes up.
It's like, okay, everything's going to be okay.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I want to go back to the plot medicine point
because okay, I love hearing that and I want to
dive into that with you.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I didn't know if that was something I could talk about.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Of course it is. Yeah, for someone who doesn't know
what a plant medicine journey looks like. Yeah, like walk
us through what that journey looks like.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
So it is psilocybum mushrooms and I've done ayahuasca, psilocybum,
bunch of plant medicine, and I did it with a shaman,
a one on one, which was beautiful because I recommend
that because there's a lot of things you want to
manifest and like let go of Where did you go
to do? I did it at home actually with the

(56:08):
shaman came to me and and so it was a
friend of mine, and there was just a lot of
stuff I was dealing with in some insomnia at the time,
and so he came and we kind of manifested what
I wanted to release. And when I was on the
journey with the with the mushrooms, he would talk to
me and say, hey, how are you feeling? You know,

(56:29):
what do you think of this? You know, when you
were sick or when you had cancer your husband died,
I mean, and I was like, you know, wow, that
was a really difficult time that I haven't let go
of those thought patterns and the fear I haven't let
go of that. So it was so he was like Okay,
what does it feel like if you were to let
go of that? And I'm like, can I let go

(56:50):
of that? Is that like possible? And he's like, absolutely,
you can get to the other side of this, because
you know, the first seven years of our life are
subconscious is fully downloaded, and then you know, those thought
patterns keep repeating themselves in our subconscious and we operate
ninety five percent out of our subconscious, which always blows
my mind, Jay, because five percent conscious, that's crazy. So

(57:13):
I mean, that's that's what it did. He would write down,
you know, things I said and just how I was
able to release them. And once I was able to
release them, Jay, they didn't come back like it was like.
The things that came back was the feeling of the
peace and the love and like not wanting to beat

(57:36):
myself up and like be hard on myself and be
I was a perfectionist too. That was part of the protocol.
I think that got me sick. And so that perfectionism,
you know, find somewhat left me. Probably not one hundred percent,
but a lot of it did.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
You're taking the plant medicine, someone's guiding you almost like
in a therapy session, guiding you through questions and helping
you become aware of where some of these blocks may be,
where some of these challenges may be. I'm breaking it
down for everyone who may may be unaway. And then
what does releasing in that session look like? Like what

(58:12):
what is that? Is that a feeling? Is it a visualization?
Is it? Is it you trying to let go? Like?
What does that? What does that look like in the session?
And then we'll talk about.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Ah, yeah, that's a good question too, because it could
be a like it could be it's a purging, it's
you know, you could hysterically cry because it's like it's
an emotion that you've hung onto for many, many years
and you know, repeated these thought patterns, So it could
be crying, it could be screaming. It could be you know,

(58:44):
just like this feeling of Wow, I can't believe I've
done this to myself, And I would say that, you know,
it's more like that, just the feeling of sadness and
and the crying and the like some maybe yelling like God, damn,
I can't believe, Like how was I so hard on myself?

(59:06):
Like I don't need to be that hard on myself.
You know, I didn't need to do that to myself.
So it was like, you know, and then he was
He's amazing. He was there to like hold me and
support me and just really like you know, I just
love and help me breathe through it. And once you
kind of like are able to be like, Okay, I

(59:28):
don't want that anymore in my life. And then you
breathe through it and you're able to breathwork is like
you know, I'm sure you've done. Breath work is incredible.
You can actually in breath work, you can feel like
you're on plant medicine a lot of times. So you know,
breathing through it and releasing it through breath work is
a beautiful thing. So that's kind of how it goes.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah, now you feeling or seeing both.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
You could see yourself in a distance like what you
do to you know, it's almost like an all you know,
another your look at yourself. Yeah, you're feeling it and
you're seeing yourself in a distance. You know, how you're
reacting and interacting, and even if you're interacting with other people,
you know, even people in your family or things that

(01:00:13):
have gone on, you can actually see it. It's kind
of wild. Now, it's not for everybody, no no.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
No, no, for sure, I've I've known many kinds who've
worked with it and found it to be useful as well.
I think it's important to share because I want to
ask when you come out of it, like when, when
the when, the when the session is over, how much
have you found that you're able to, what are you
holding on to? What do you take with you? And

(01:00:42):
what still stays the same, Because as we know, it's
you know, no change is ever miraculous or immediate, So
so what do you take with you and what still
exists and is a process.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
That that's beautiful too, because what I took with me
was that sense of calm and like self love and
what I wanted to have more in my life. But
I did also take away, you know, the part of
how much I was beating myself up, and you know
how hard I was on myself and what I had

(01:01:15):
and why I think I had gotten all these illnesses
and why I had gotten the cancer, and just why
I was at the place I was in my life
where I wasn't getting what I really wanted ultimately, whether
it also was with relationships or you know, intimately, like
all those things were really important to me to find,
and you know, there was blockages, so I realized like

(01:01:36):
it was really cool to be able to journal about
those blockages later like, oh my god, I want to
release that and I kind of had to do that,
and I still have to do that. It's not a
miracle cure. I still in my life have to be like, Okay,
I need to release you know that thought pattern. I
still kind of walk around a little bit with it,
but not to the same extent. When I did the journey,

(01:01:57):
I was unconscious about it. Now I'm conscious. That's a
beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Absolutely, It's that awareness. Yeah, you know where something came from? Yeah,
what was it for you? If you don't mind sharing,
what was it that you found when you asked like
that's why I believe I'm going to get sick again,
or that's why I got sick in the first place.
Where where was that coming from?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
That was coming from like growing up? Because when I
was I was sick all the time, and my mom,
you know, labeled me a sick kid, and she would
always be like, oh, there she is again sick. You know, like,
well we got to be really sensitive with her because
you know, she might get sick, and so I kind
of just you know, followed that, you know what she said,

(01:02:37):
and I that's where that's really where it came from.
It was those years, those early years of always being
you know, not feeling well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
And then and you're saying that also helps you then
deal with challenges that come today. Yeah, like that awareness
helps you make sense of different things that come up now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
And also with my clients, not only for myself it's
changed my life completely, but my clients. I can see
that happening for them, you know, because I've been through
all these health issues and because I was, you know,
in the subconscious thoughts of these repeated messages that weren't
working for me. We talk about that. You know, I'm like, Okay,

(01:03:19):
what is going on with you that's blocking you? Because
there's something blocking you from getting healthy or wanting to
heal or a lot of the cancer ones. You know,
we talk about those things. And also they're also like,
no one's asked me that, you know, no one's asked
me what my blockages are or you know, what's going
on with me? Like did anything happen in those first

(01:03:39):
seven early years of your life that maybe was traumatic?
Jay all of them had like death, divorce, you know,
or someone was mean to them. You know, they didn't
and then they lost trust and faith in the universe
sort of you know. I know it's a little woo woo,
but they did. They lost faith in like you know,

(01:04:00):
know that they didn't have what's in them to be
able to overcome it. And I think like that has
been like a beautiful thing for me working with clients
and helping them heal. I can't I'm not trained to
get them past it. You know, someone like you can
get them past it to some degree, but you know,
it's like that work of you know, diving into the subconscious.

(01:04:21):
And I also I work with a hypnotist that's beautiful
and some energy healers that are wonderful too, and I'll
send them to them as well if they need to
like do the extra work, and most of them do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
What do you find those modalities support? And by the way,
I agree, I think, I mean, you know what we're
really talking about today, And I encourage people to follow
their own intuition and guide as to what speaks to
them because as it's almost like as you grow and
learn more, you realize how much there is still to
explore and how everyone's so different, and you know, everyone

(01:04:57):
needs a different way to become aware and a different
way to become conscious. Like I found a lot of
my personal awakening and consciousness in meditation and being with
my teachers and listening for hours and study and practice.
And then I meet people who needed a you know,
moment of revelation through plant medicine, or I meet people
who found it another way, and I just realized everyone

(01:05:19):
is so different, and everyone's trauma is so different, and
everyone's healing journey looks so different, that we can't close
the door on any of these modalities because and I
always say that, like sometimes people ask me like, would
you be open to this? And I'm like, if I
needed something, if I was trying to unblock something, I'd
be open to anything, because I should be like, why
should I close off from any opportunity for healing that

(01:05:42):
I need just because it may not be as common
or as or as marketed or whatever whatever the right
word is. But but for you, I guess the question
I was asking is when you're we're talking about this
like three sixty degree approach, when you talkalked about hypnotism
and what was the other modality just mentioned energy? Healing

(01:06:04):
energy specifically with hypnoism. Where does that modality plan to
everything we've talked about today? Like what is because again
I think it sounds so mysterious and maybe like you said,
woo woo, but like, what is the point of that
modality is? I guess the question I'm asking.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
So I feel like some hypnotists that are really good
are able to tap into your subconscious as well, So
a little bit like therapy, but you know, it goes
much deeper than talk therapy. The hypnotists that I work with,
she's able, like I'll talk to her about something that
is bothering me or I can't sleep about, and she's like, oh,

(01:06:39):
this is what's like at the root of your issue.
And I'm like, how did you know that she can
like dive in and see like this is what's bothering you.
So that's what I find is really helpful. And then
she'll do a meditation specifically for me. So I've had
tremendous amount of client's go to her or to a

(01:07:01):
hypnotist that's really good, who don't eat healthy, who don't exercise,
who don't sleep well. So then they'll go and she's
able to get them to sleep well. You know, she's
able to find out what is causing them not to
sleep well, and she's able to get them to eat healthy.
Like it's kind of crazy. They'll wake up the next
day and automatically start thinking about eating healthy. Now, I

(01:07:24):
have to tell you that this doesn't last. So you
have to listen to our meditations again, or see her again,
or you know again. It's like a practice.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Well, because basically what you're saying here is that we're
reap with every decision thought choice we make is simply
a programming of our subconscious and we've created a subconscious
pattern since we were born that has led us to
where we are now. And if we don't like where
we are and we want to shift it, we have

(01:07:54):
to reprogram our subconscious mind. And that requires under standing
your thoughts, self awareness, journaling, meditating, reflection, and then if
you need it, plant medicine, hypnotism, what you know, just
just the plethora of options there, because I think what
we get stuck with is we believe that our current

(01:08:15):
set of habits are who we are, right. We think
that the way we eat now is who we are,
and what we need and what it needs to be,
not realizing that it is simply a programmed pattern that
you adopted at one point in your life and you
started to believe it was you right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, Like that's that's what's so fascinating.
I think about what I get to do because I
do find that, you know, people do feel like, you know,
this is where I'm going to be. This is what
I know. This is you know, I'm not going to
ever get past here. I might get a little better,
but I might not get great. Yes, And I'm like,

(01:08:54):
what's with this little better? You need to be great?
Like I feel that way with my life. At sixty four,
I feel great. I feel better than I did when
I was in my twenties. So I want people to
like know that, you know, when I say how are you,
I want them to say great, not I'm just okay.
So yeah, that you know, all of those patterns that

(01:09:17):
they learned, some are luckier than others that have better
patterning and you know, better upbringings in terms of just
like healthier lifestyles and maybe not. So you know, they
were more secure and you know, self awareness earlier on
in their life, which is lucky for them, but a
lot of people that I work with weren't. And like you,

(01:09:38):
it's never too late to change, you know. I feel like,
you know, we're there's a lot of years to live, right,
I mean, my mom is ninety four, I know, so
like she's going strong and I'm like, I hope I'm
ninety four and going strong like that, you know, but
it takes work to get there and to do that,
and I feel that's really just all of this, I want,

(01:10:02):
you know, the modalities are endless out there, as you know,
you know, like anti aging and just all of the
new stuff and the stem cells and the you know,
NAD and just everything cold blune and just all of
it is a beautiful thing. Infrared just getting us healthier
and healthier. So I mean it's a lot to like learn,

(01:10:24):
but it's kind of cool that, you know, we're on
the precipice of all these beautiful things that can really
turn back the lock absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Have you ever talked to your mother about the sick
kid label?

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yes? Yeah, And you know it was beautiful because she
did apologize. She's like, you know, I didn't know any
different and what she didn't, you know, she didn't know,
and I think that you know a lot of us
like taking care of people too, and she loved being
able to take care of me when I was sick too,
and I felt I felt nurtured in those times as well.

(01:11:00):
So I got a little something out of it. Wasn't
all bad.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Alyssa, it has been such a joy
to talk to you today, and honestly, your personal journey
that's led to so much professional service and love and
support for so many people, and the amount of insight
that you've given today, I think everyone's going to be
able to take away. And this is what I would
encourage everyone to do. Is Alyssa's shared so much great

(01:11:24):
advice today. Find just one thing that you want to
practice for the next seven days. It may be to
eat more whole foods. It may be to cut out sugar.
It may be to research a bit more about inflammation
and learn about it. Like I think, just pick one
thing that resonates with you that you want to try
and up level your life with. It could be getting

(01:11:46):
your vitamin D right, it could be sun exposure, whatever
else it may be, and start there and just feel
the confidence shift from doing one thing per week and
then keep adding more and a lot can happen. Alyssa
and every episode of the podcast with a final five.
Theys fast five have to be answered in one word

(01:12:06):
to one sentence maximum, and so they cat that way.
So Aliza Goodwin, these are your final five. The first
question is what is the best advice you've ever heard
or received.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
To love yourself? To learn to love yourself beautiful?

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Second question, what is the worst advice you've ever heard
or received that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
You're never going to get better, You're not going to heal.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Question number three, what's something that you used to believe
was true about good health that you don't think so anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
I used to believe that just sleeping was going to
get me healthy. You know, good sleep was gonna get
me healthy. Talk to me about and it's not just
that anything, right, It's not just one thing. It's a
combination of things.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Yeah, And we're always looking for that one thing. We
all want that one miracle. Drag like, what's that one
thing I need to do that's going to change my life?
And yeah, it's three sixty. There is no one, Yeah
that makes sense. Question number four, what's the first thing
you do every morning and the last thing you do
every night.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
The first thing I do every morning is probably journal
and journal about how I want my day to look like,
and the same thing at night to release the stress.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Wonderful and fifth and final question, if you could create
one law that everyone in the world had to follow,
what would it be?

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
I would say, just be kind to yourself and others,
you know, really understand, try to understand that people are
going through a lot in their life, and to not
judge right away, you know, to have some self compassion

(01:13:53):
for yourself and the others that you're with.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Yeah, I mean, I couldn't agree with you. I really,
I really believe that the reason we judge others so
harshly is because we're so harsh on ourselves and we
haven't found the ability to show ourselves that self love,
that compassion, that empathy, and so it's so difficult to
show it externally to people we've never met or don't know.

(01:14:19):
And yeah, I love that. Listen. Is there anything that
I haven't asked you that was on your heart and
mind that you really want to share that you really
feel like it's your call to right now or feel
intuitively is important and you don't have to have anything.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Yeah, I mean I think we did touch on it,
you know, just ending with the fact you know that
you you know, life can get better in every way emotionally, physically, spiritually.
You know. Don't give up on yourself. It's probably my
biggest you know, don't ever ever give up on yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
I love that. I mean, you're a great You're a
great spokesperson for that for sure, And I love that end.
I think it's so easy to be like, oh my
best days are behind me, it's all going in the
wrong direction now, or you know, whatever it may be.
And I mean, just sitting with you and hearing from
you today, I can tell just how real the opposite
of that is for you. And it's aspiration or inspiring

(01:15:20):
for me for sure, because yeah, you continue to live
an exciting life and know that there's so much more
life to live, as opposed to accepting that this is
the end or this may not be. And I think
it's really interesting. I was talking to a friend about this,
this idea of how we often think we manifest bad things,

(01:15:41):
kind of like your sick kid approach, Like we often
think like, oh my god, I did this to myself.
And I was talking to a friend about this and
this idea of like, well, if we can do that
to ourselves, then we surely can do the opposite. I
just want to get your sense on that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Absolutely. I know that that's a big that's a big
thing happening out there. I mean, you know, I'll just
I kind of I need to plug my two girls
who are my inspiration in my life, and you know,
I feel like I like manifested the relationship with them,

(01:16:15):
Like I can't live without them, and I look up
to them and I admire them, and you know, I
want to be here to be a spokesperson for them
so that when they have bad days and they say
maybe something like that, hey, I think I manifested this
bad stuff to happen. I'm like, no, you can change that.
You know, you can manifest the good stuff in your life.

(01:16:37):
And that really drives me every day is to be
able to like hopefully be there for them to help
them manifest the good stuff. Yes, I know that a
lot of people feel like they manifest the bad things,
but you're right, you can totally change it around. And
you know, I and they're young, and I definitely didn't
have the awareness they have in their twenties.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
I wish I did.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
I'm really bummed about that because I am really in
awe of how they function and operate, and you know
how quickly they can turn things around for themselves. And
I think they've been through a lot. Probably that's why.
But yeah, the manifesting the good stuff. I want them
and you know, when I'm not here later in my life,

(01:17:20):
you know, I want them to be able to be
able to do that easily.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
I love that. Well, I think you've set them up
for amazing success.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
They set me up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Yeah, and I didn't start talking about them because they
could spend the whole time. I know, Jordan's true. Yeah,
but thank you so much to listen for coming on
to on purpose. Everyone's been listening and watching. Make sure
you share your favorite insights moments. I mean, today was
a full three sixty degree conversation. We went from gut

(01:17:50):
health to detoxing, the cleansing to plot medicine, and it's
beautiful when this happens. And I hope that you're introduced
to new modalities. I hope that you allow yourself to
be open to new approaches. Again, we're not recommending that
there's one right approach or a wrong approach or however,
the point is to give you a menu of options

(01:18:10):
and ideas and opportunities, because the biggest loss in life
is feeling like you only have one way to do something,
and when that way doesn't work, or you've tried it
a lot and it still doesn't benefit you, that's when
we mostly give up. And I think recognizing that there's
a whole variety of options, ideas, insights, expertise out there

(01:18:31):
actually fills you with more confidence that you'll find your
way exactly. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Thank you for having me put an honor.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
That's a joy. Thank you. If you love this episode,
you'll enjoy my interview with doctor Daniel Ahman on how
to change your life by changing your brain.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
If we want a healthy mind, it actually starts with
a healthy brain. You know, I've had the blessing or
the curse to scam over a thousand convicted felons and
over a hundred murderers, and their brains

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Are very damaged.

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