October 1, 2024 • 57 mins
Stephen sits down with legendary actor and Hollywood royalty, Eric Roberts and his lovely wife, Eliza, to discuss working with Mickey Rourke (and his dogs) ad-libbing legendary lines, the craft of acting, Eric's favorite role and getting cancelled by Putin. They also discuss a bad movie or two.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One Bad Movie.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
That's a great title, One bad Movie. I love that,
You're gonna love the cast. My mom is Robert.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
You want to yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear that. I'm
gonna have an embarrass something said to me. So that
sounds good.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
That's a great title of her show, One bad Movie.
I'm so jealous. That's such a great title. Oh yeah,
one bad So can I explain it quickly?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes, explain?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And I have to beet.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I have to tread lately with you, sir, just because
I am. I told her, and I told her I'm
fangirling a little bit later, just so I can get
out what I need to get out later, because Brother Too.
Films Star eighty and Papa Granta Village are films I
watched many many met Eric many times, two actor buddies
(00:54):
of mine. When I was coming up with Sam Rockwell,
we had the same agent. It was we were both
and last exit to Brooklyn as little tiny supporting actors.
We would play a game like we welcome and go.
We would quote so, brother, please, it's that thing.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So I'll circle back. If that's okay, I'll just follow you. Yeah,
I know I love him. Please, I'm telling you now,
Stevie's crazy. Those guys were my crew.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
We were like a little crew and uh and we
were all trying to like do what we thought was
method and oh my god, it was a disaster. No,
it's what got me sober. That movie got me sober
back then. YEA, yeah, it's a long story.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah I was.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I was doing that was a long time ago. I
was drinking like a sailor. But one bad movie is
an idea out of frustration. About twelve months ago, I
was sitting home and upstate with New York with my wife.
June tenth is my thirty fourth wedding anniversary. Yeah, and
(02:10):
I bowed to your oracle.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I already said, that's what my wife the oracle.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So I'm watching this interview and it's a it's a
great interview, a new movie coming out, this great new
actor and all that's yummy. And I just sent to myself,
I went.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I'm glad I don't have to do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Just meaning the studio.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Now, this is just me talking the studio radio round table,
having to say the same thing over and over again.
I did that, and I'm this weirdo.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Eric.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You'll learn in this conversation like, I'm I don't want
to be a Marvel guy.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I don't want to be in Marvel movies.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I want to do little movies and write and direct
for the rest of my life. At fifty seven, so
I'm watching this interview and I say, up, you know,
I'm kind of not into that kind of vibration anymore.
I said, but wouldn't it be cute, Like here's this actor, right,
wouldn't it be too funny to talk about like his
one bad movie because every actor has like at least
(03:08):
one bad movie. I just said it to myself and
I said one bad like a literally like a poem.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I just went one bad movie. That's funny, and I
called John sitting over there. They're gonna chime him in later,
but yeah, I called Gian, I said one bed, Like,
could there be this thing where you talk to actors
about their what it's perfect?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So good?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Will you talk to everybody about their one mad movie?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
The foundation of why I work. Okay, Eric Roberts, you're
you're you're flipping the thing here, Eric Roberts. Here's what
we have to do every time in this interview is
Eric Roberts, what's your one bad movie.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Comedy Hell.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
That's the title of the film, comedy Hell. We're gonna
talk about comedy Hell.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
It is right.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yes, I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Know, you know, house progressed children? Are we rock.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
That you're having fun? Comedy Hell is the title of
the picture. I'm going there now because I do always
just it's fresh for me.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
What's it about?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I don't even remember.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
It's just it's just so I remember shooting it, and
I remember thinking, as you're shooting it, you're here as
a favorite, So just relax.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Herek even though it's embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
That's how I felt, right, Yeah, yeah, but I got
through it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And did that happen ever in your past more than
once or just that one to that degree only that
one time? Really the.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Degree of bad movie that qualifies comedy help.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
There can be conditions that qualify.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
So the log line for it on IMDb is three
stand up comedians cross paths with a religious zealot who's
killing devil worshipers, blasphemers and now comedians.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Wow, what's the charge? I hope he's like a sheriff.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
He could religious.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, A lot of.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
That was amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Okay, that just that just means that we're on the
right path. Here, we're on the right path.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
But now I don't even want to go further just
with a guests like you know, and he shoots the
evangelist like I just you know, who knows, but I
love the just whatever that your time there this that
that was just one of those.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Have we started the show? Yeah, we were already like
we've already been recorded.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Okay, this is how we do this, and then we
they chime in.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I'm just an old fashioned guy. I'm like, okay, three
two one year on that.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Okay, well we may stop and go and do that
as well.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
But because it's taped, because we can edit it, correct things,
you know, take stuff out, you know whatever.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Here's what I like to you guys, because I'm not
a smiley guy. I she'll tell you, but I like
to smile on camera when I'm being interviewed. It's as
simple as that, yeah you're on here, okay. So almost
like if we were I'm saying now, oh yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Smiling, I would not have picked up that. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
But but but I also get comfortable by staring, by
knowing what everybody's doing, and so so so I always
look a little is he here yet?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:27):
And I understand that, but I don't care as long
as I'm not on camera. But I'm on camera, it's
either the red lights. Hi, okay, so here we got.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Great sad lips.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
It's so bad, it's good.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Guilty, bless this sun.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's so bad. It's one bad deal.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Now I'm gonna digress. I graduated high school nineteen eighty four.
Did you graduate after that or before that?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I never graduated from high school.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
That may really be true.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
I'm not sure if you are in Grady, if you're
in your senior year, Grady eye, I don't know if
that ever.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I have a diploma, wife, Well, anybody can.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Get what years the diploma? What year is the diploma from?
Please it's from nineteen seventy four, seventy four. Wow.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
That you're right in the same as my big brother,
same as Alec as Alec seventy and when I was
coming out of high school, I went to the American
Academy Dramatic Arts.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That's a program.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
You have to be invited to your audition and then
for the second year you have to be invited back,
which I was not. I wasn't disciplined enough. Yeah, it's okay.
I'm okay with it. But again with some of the
hooligans in New York City, I was hanging with the
guys I did last Exit to Brooklyn. Some of these actors,
I'm going to just take a couple of minutes to just.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I was such a good cat movie.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh, the movie's brilliant. The movie's brilliant. And we were.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Talking Peter Peter you know him, Peter Dobson. He's a
young actor that I became such a fan of through
my wife. My wife were hanging out one night. She said,
I have to go meet Peter Peter Who Peter Dobson,
Come on here, come with us. So what an entertaining, wonderful,
innert smart, funny, intelligent, genuine politics.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Everything about him.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Is just righteous, genuine. I love him down to Peter Dobson.
He's the real real Yeah. Now, the rest of those
cast members of the Little Hooligan pack in the movie
because Stephen Lang was in it, Yes, right, Bert Young
was in it. It's just a brilliant film based on
the book by Hubert Selby Jr. Fantastic History. Sam rock Well,
(09:00):
who's now.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know, Yes, Jennifer Jay.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Actor, she's incredible like you, sir, So let me turn,
let me get back to my subject here, Okay, my
little popa Greenwich Village man.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Jennifer is wonderful. But Jennifer Jason, I worked with.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Her twice and she's exactly that thing. So coming up
to your performances were something that The only way to
say this from one actor to another is great.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Acting requires a.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Certain very similitude within oneself imagination, that childlike thing, whatever
your technique is. But it also requires focus. Focus for
me is probably the most important thing. So Star eighty Papa,
I can't have you for the whole day. So both
(09:57):
movies would take six hours, but this one's only going
to take three, kidding, Papa. Grenade Village. I watched it
again last night and this morning just to remind myself
of those moments where I went.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Half ah, where did that come from?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
And I mean that, brother, I could get well weepy
right now talk about because I have a great passion
for greatness. So you know, there's the people that you
looked up to and what that meant to you and
the stuff they did which was nice, but for me,
like instant hepatitis.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know these little things right now.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
But these little things, you know, of course I wouldn't
have done it if I thought I was going to
be wrong, you know, just it just there's a couple
of these floaties that if I may like when they say, oh,
Brando picks the leaf off her shoulder.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
To me, that's the same thing.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
When you see certain nuances in a performance that is uncanny, unreplicable,
it's it brands itself. So you have branded yourself.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Well, let me let me look. I love kind words.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I love you.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I find you intelligent and talented, so I love the
kind words are coming from you. But let me tell
you something. There's only one line in the Pope Greenwich
Village that's ad lived. Vinnie Patrick wrote everything that came
out of my mouth. There's one line in that movie.
It's a very good line. However, it's mine, thank you.
But but no, that was all Vinnie Patrick. Vinnie Patrick
(11:44):
is a genius, and he's overlooked because I'm the guy
on the camera.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
He's who gave me that idea. Because of the dialogue.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Now, he was written as a tough, kind of a dome,
kind of cindable guy, and I inverted him into something else.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
But is that all you did? Circling back on that one? Love,
go ahead, but I forgot what I was saying.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
You're talking about the mont what Stephen saying? Those tipping
point Oh.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, there's only one that was mine. It
was all Vinni's because of the dialogue, told me how
to play it, and so he was a great guide
as a writer.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
What was the line?
Speaker 6 (12:25):
The line that lived is after I lose my thumb
and I go to the hospital and I have the
thing about the pills and all that stuff and I'm
all messed up. It's it's it's a scene after when
a Charlie is serving Polly's soup and he has read
on the side of the played in. My line was
white bread, no one of these wascott no color. That
(12:46):
was mine, But everything else is Vinnie Patrick. Every sitilable
is Vinnie Patrick. And he guided me through the language
how to play that guy.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And it was it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Was a language that actually gave me the idea, Oh,
this guy's not tough. He wants to be tough, but
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Gonna play him tough. And it was all from Vinnie.
You know, I'm not a bad actor. But I'm not
terribly intelligent, as my wife will attest you, and so
you know it's got to come organically or it doesn't
come with me.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, you're extremely humble, and it's also probably why you've
been so successful and great.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
No, my wife can also say him not unbelieving you are.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Okay, actually, okay. What I mean by that is.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
You're cognizant now at this stage of your life of
your wellness and your health, and you're sticking with what works.
That takes humility because some guys with your gifting can
have a little attitude, okay, And I think that's really cool,
especially for younger people to see in here. And by
(13:57):
the way, you just told a little story about they
took my thumb, Charlie, right, you know, yeah, many, I
bet you if you google for him later they took
my thumb, Charlie and showed the different YouTube videos that
have been put.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Up just from that line. I'll bet it's in the millions.
That'd be fun to do. And I've got all day. Yes,
it was all the writer.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And I watched an interview with the director and Mickey
where he said the same thing. He said, it's it's
all this it's an old interview and he goes it
was it was right around with the Indiana Jones movies
were coming out back then, and he goes, hey, look
this is a little movie.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And he said, really, the.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Coolest thing about you he just said, look, and you know,
it's it's so cool to be eye to eye at
the same level with another actor.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Who you know, who I.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Respect, Who's Who's he even said, like, who's one of
the best actors.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But so on the frequency of back in the eighties
and the nineties.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Tremino part of one bad movie is to invite you
to like express what that meant to you back then.
The difference between filmmaking back then and filmmaking now. Do
you feel like the techno part in the industry is
kind of taken.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Over to Well, let me tell you a story to
an example of how completely different it was when we
had film the year I made The Pope of Greenwich Phillage.
I got the script in January, I was I was
doing a play up at Hartford. I was doing I
was doing last naturally because Tennis Williams had just died,
so everybody was doing Williams. So I was out there
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doing that. I get a script in a book from
Cotching Costner. Uh the producers they and they said, read
this book. Read the script. Pick apart Pauli or Charlie. Okay,
I read the book. I read the script. I read
the book again. The book is good, man, I go
back the script. God, they're identical. Who wrote Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
He wrote them both?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Vinnie Patrick?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
How cool is see?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I picked Paulie and they said, we want to pick Charlie.
I said, what handsome leading man who wears suits.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
He's cool.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
We thought it's time that you do that, I said.
I said, nah, I like the other part. But here's
the deal. He's written like a dumb, tough thug. I'm
not going to play that because that's been played to
death by everybody, including me.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I want to play something very different, but very in
the grain of that world. And he said, like what.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I said, Well, I've been spending time down there watching
those guys and they're all a bunch of mama's boys.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And they said yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I said, well, I.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Want to play a mama's boy who doesn't want to
be a mama's boy. Okay, you know we hired you
for you, so whatever you do is fine with us.
They didn't get it at first, though, so I said, okay,
so that's January, so Fairbuary, March, April, May, June, July.
I lose thirty pounds. I purn my hair, I learned
my dialect. I shut ready to go, let's make a movie.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Did you really.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Those days you could take that time? Because you're talking
abou the difference.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Between oh yeah, that's that's the difference to me. You know,
you know, between now and then.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Because now you're off from a movie on a Friday,
can you be there Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And you're like, yes, sure, I a wife. Can I
be their Sunday? Yes, Eric, You're okay, that's how we
make movies. Now. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
But it's just as far as you know, as much as.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
As much as you want to share that you want to.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
But if you were teaching an acting class and a
student said, tell me about those months between then and
showing up on the set, why did you perm your
hair and why did he talk the way he did,
and why did you choose to go the other way
with the character?
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Okay, from the time I told him I wanted to
play Pauli, and they said, okay, go with it. I
started spending time down in literally but innocuously. I would
not Robert is here and none of that. I would
just show up and hang out and uh in restaurants,
on street corners and parks, just all in that area.
And I know everybody in Chinatown, everybody literally. But it
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was not as an actress as as I go, hey,
you know, just but I spent and and I spent
time talking to those guys, hanging out those guys, watching
those guys with each other. And what I got the
the most of from that time of my life, the
understanding of peeps is, uh, we're all a bunch of
babies who just get tall and uh and uh and
(18:35):
I and I realized that the most then, because these
tough guys will and the dress cool, they drive cool,
they all cool, they smell cool, everything's cool.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And their babies don't do that to me. And you're
not tough guys.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
And when I saw it, I gotta, I gotta bring
that to the screen because it's so entertaining and it's
so it's so endearing, yeah yeah, yeah, and it's so
delicate and and so it's vulnerable yeah, it is, and
and that's where I got that, just by watching those
guys on the street.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Okay, I'm not until you slap me, because no, I
just want I almost want to be that kid in
the class for a second, just say I get everything
you decide. But again, the nuance of the character, the
way he talked, was it a dialect you zeroed in
on or okay, correct, I'm not going to that. What
was their technical behavioral stuff that you applied.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, a technical aspect of it.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
That kind of character you have to be careful because
he can also drown you in a performance, and that
you can't act while other people are talking, you know
what I mean. Yes, you have to be polite, and
not only for them, but the survival of the interest
of your character. You can't shove him down everybody's throat, right,
(19:59):
I have to than want anymore. So so so yeah,
it's a trick and the only place as an actor technically,
you know, you know, you're doing my homework that I
was nervous about.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I can overdo this and blow it in. If I
blow it, I blow it big.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Is the one page monologer have that after I lose
my thumb when I come to it to Charlie's apartment
and Jolie.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
They took my thom that.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Speech and my baby sister Lisa ran that speech with
me endlessly because I would change inflection, I would change rhythm,
and I really worked out and I really found how
it was going to work, and I got it where
it was like it was like a great old like
one insured I could put it on really quick and
wear it well, you know, I really got And so
(20:48):
I didn't know how I was gonna do that speech
on that day because I had I had found so
many avenues into it. I just let it ride and
I knew it and I have my sister Lisa the
thing for them.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
But you knew the words well enough. Oh yeah, I
knew the words. Here's why I ask.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
If you look the way it was filmed, you must
have had to do it several times twice. That's it,
two angles or how many cameras?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Do you remember?
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Two cameras once, one camera once twice? Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
It didn't look like that.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, all those cuts.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
This is what's called thespianic Gold's like for thespians.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
This is and that was the only day. The night
the night before that speech. You know, Mickey doesn't learn dialogue,
and so I told Mickey for that speech, he said,
you got to do me a favor.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You have a line tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
A line, just the one, and I need that because
it's a transitional line, like I have a speech.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You know, you know, what's hell happened here? She left me.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I gotta have that line. And then I had the
other line about why and uh. And I got to
have him in the right place because I changed direction
with those lines. So you got to give them to
me in the right place, Okay, dude, And he goes,
no problem. So then we show up, we're having a
run through, and he doesn't know his lines. It's the
only time on any set ever I've ever pulled the
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actor card. I said, I'll be in my trailer till
he learns his line. And I walked up the set.
They call him about half an I'm like, we also
warned him, No, no, I just I just could not
get caught up and getting make you ready because I
had a job.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It was big, so.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I couldn't get caught up in that. So when when
he has just together, I'll be back back. And so
about half and hourly he knows his line. So I
went back and we killed it, and uh and and
uh and Mickey Roar is the most brilliant, fun.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Guy to work with in the world.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
But you have to be ready yet you have to
carry your own weight because he's not gonna help you
with you away.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
It's amazing that you started with Micky saying, well, you
knew he just doesn't learn his lines. I did a
very small film with them, and I'm going to tell
this whole story in ninety seconds. And it's the first
day on the set, and I see he already knows
what's coming. It's the first day on the set, and
I called him and he did a favor and where
(23:21):
we paid him this money and he showed up and
it was a lovely little picture called fall Time, with
a great little cast, and Mickey's the biggest actor obviously
in the cast. But it's this cameo situation wh we're
shooting him in three days. So we're sitting there and
he's in his chair and they're lighting, and we're probably
(23:41):
ten minutes from shooting, so he's kind of on the
set a little early. And I recognized that. I'm like, oh, hey, bro.
He's like, yeah, talking for a few minutes, and he
says to me, so, what do we shooting?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And I go, oh, yeah, yeah. He's say, oh yeah,
this is his assistants.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
There, and he like leans over to the fifteen and
then he starts talking to me again.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
This goes on and you know what's coming. So six
or seven minutes into.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
This, he's asking the like the third question was, and
what's the scene right before this?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And I'm going with this.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Guy, there's no way he doesn't know what we're shooting.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Yeah, And I'm sitting look at your.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Fast and I walk up to him and I go
because I brought him on the film, yeah, And I go,
you're ready to shoot? He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
gonna be great. But you've asked me like everything required
to like understand like from my side that you don't
have any fn idea what we're doing right now. He goes, no,
(24:43):
I just had to you know, refresh my memory.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
He goes.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I go, oh, okay, that's when I learned that process
about him. But quickly I'll land this plane. We start shooting.
We're about to break for lunch. We've been shooting four
hours and he has this line where he says, we're
on the precipice of a whole new something right before lunch.
(25:09):
Paul Warner is the director's little nervous. It's the first
day with Mickey. We're rehearsing and he turns around. He goes, uh,
doesn't work, Mickey, Right, So I go, what doesn't work?
Precipice of a whole new era is the line doesn't work.
Twenty minutes later, we're on a little budget movies a
(25:31):
lot time. I mean, you now have craft service guys
going Millennia. Yeah, you know, just there's anything to get
him to say, you know, to get on his mark.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So and he's my friend and I go to him
and I go, we gotta shoot. I go, we gotta shoot.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
He goes, yeah, okay, yeah, let's shoot it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He goes just like this right, And.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
It's a scene with me where he's doing my neck tie.
I'm just like a sidekicking. He's doing my time for
me and he's talking to me and he goes, so
listen and he's gonna work out because we're on the
precipice of a whole new precipice.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It's in the movie. You're like finet, moving.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
On, freak for lunch, but one more then't move on, No,
don't take hold of It's priceless.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Uh, he calls me.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
This is back in before the restaurant when heavy. He
calls the office and uh and and he says.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Dude, you work every day? What is that about?
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm on the lucky ones. Dude, Yeah,
well make me lucky. I need a job. Okay, well
I'm making this moing a little of that night, this
little roll in it. Blah blah, Yeah sure, Oh thanks dude. Okay,
so b blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Okay, great, dude, I love you.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I'll touch in him minute he shows up on the set,
It's all gonna happen, you know, mikey blah blah. And
I set it up and I happened to be there
as a friend. I'm not on the set that day.
And he has a dog, of course, And and then
you talk about seeing blah blah. Okay, let's shoot who
you're going to hand the dog off to?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
On the hand the dog off? What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (27:05):
No, he's in a movie. If I found a movie, No,
we can't. No, we can't have a dog be it's
a psychiatrist's not gonna work with a dog.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
No. But if I wind a movie, he's in a movie.
And so I just went home. I just, oh, I
gotta get out of here. I left.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
What what what if it came of that?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Okay, but it ended up happening.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
All of that was slightly different because it's close enough.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
We do have a lot more.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
I mean, you can bring dogs on planes and restaurants
and stuff now. But okay, Mickey's and we've done Mickey's
dogs before.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
When they did Spun, I was the dog sitter.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
And by the way, the day I showed up and
was the dog sitter, it happened I had been bitten
in the face by a dog and I was completely bandage.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I love dogs. This was a total accident. It was,
but you could barely see my face. And I had
just come.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
From from the and Mickey's like, when I'm going to
trust with what I can't remember it was Loki or
one of the other dogs.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
The only one I'm gonna trust with the dog is Eliza.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
And somebody said to him, you know, she just was
bitten by a dog, like an hour ago, and her
face is gone right, and he's like.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, this is fine. The dog won't know and and.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
The whole day, but the whole he'll stop in the
middle of a scene and be like, how's it.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
You're just you're doing the scene. How's the dog doing?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And he'll just be talking to the dog. But the
time that Eric's.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Talking about, this dog wasn't a wrangle dog. This was
not a movie dog. And and it would have been fine,
it could have worked, but the dog was being a
dog and wanted to do a lot of other things.
And Mickey wasn't just letting the dog go do other things.
Mickey would go do other things with the dog too,
So you just couldn't in.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
The shot was wherever he was.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, and that and.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
This came after the day of where this was one
of those movies where there's like no budget.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
The reason it's not quite the same story is I
do this since she does this, Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Just you understand that's brilliant in this.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
Case that the director they actually replaced him, actually paid
him and replaced.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Him with Michael Madsen. I mean, I don't know how you.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Who has been on this very program did you know
that one bad movie.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
We love Mickey very much, very very dearly, and he's
incredibly supportive. And his shout out for Eric at the
at the what you gonna call it spirit.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Wards, that had more effect on my on my day
to day life for quite a while than anything that's.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Happened in years, more than C A A U T A.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
When he got the when he when he got the
Independent Spirit Award for for the restler, like that's the trophy,
and it started talking about me.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, we were in the art you know, you know,
you never know what to say in these moments. It's
better to.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Talk about It's like somebody else of performing as as
an artist is to introduce the band.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I mean, banter is a pain in the ass. So
he just did. Couldn't think that. Say I saw him
zero in on Eric.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I was like, he's all, wait, here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Though he called her before that that awards someone he said,
I want Eric there, bring him, I want him there,
and she goes, Eric, you know, make you want you
your awards? Ceremoney for French better word, why.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Because because he does.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Okay, So I got dressed up and went so I'm
in the audience.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Yeah no, and he just said he just went to
the mic like this. He hadn't said anything. He just
won an a war.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
He just was, you know, he was exhumed from burial pretty.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Much like a therapist. I'm going to explain all this
in a minute. Please continue.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
And he just went into the to the thing and
he said, you can find it online, Eric Roberts, whatever
it was that he did fifteen years ago. Like, the
guy's brilliant. Isn't it time to forgive you forgave me?
So just let's give him a job.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
And they did, basically.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
But that's a men's thing. That's a mens thing. Oh totally.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I don't disagree.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
But isn't it funny? I'm gonna circle back again. Now
this is kind of how the business has changed too.
The mentioniness is kind of gone. So it's nice to
legends of cinema. You're a legend of cinema, can chat
about each other so lovingly and positively in the retrospect.
(31:21):
But I just again, before I forget, just thank you
for being here. This is just I'm uh, I was
very nervous before you got I was very nervous. Brother,
I smoked to American spirits.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Wow, you don't even smoke.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
We've hung out lots.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
I don't make you nervous. Why would I make you nervous.
We've hung out so many times.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I get to mucination. We have talked about such. Do
you remember what happened in Russia when I opened the
door to your car? Do you remember? Not specifically? I
love you, I know the story.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I want to hear.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
It was life changing. I'm gonna say, no, you're not
in trouble because you were nice.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
But you were Eric. So look, not a lot of
guys like we get to say this. I'm just provessive peak.
So we go because.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Of Bruno forget about it, no more.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
So. Yeah, okay, God bless him.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
And I go to that film festival on the Black
Sea and you're there and we're both doing appearances.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
No imagine.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I go to a film festival in in wherever I'm from, Pequa,
it's somewhere at the Black Sea.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I failed geography, That's what I.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Had to become an actor. So so I'm there at
this thing. Eric Roberts is there and before I get
a chance to go, hey.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Eric, Eric, Eric, So I go concentrate on the mic.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I can't forget that, Mica hold on.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
So I followed down. I'm now I'm going down to
my car to go to get my lunch or go
somewhere on the schedule. But I get down in there's
like Eric's people around a car. So Eric's in this car.
So I go to the people because I'm from Speakle.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Hey, what's up.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, we were just upstairs Steve Baldwin, Alex little brother. Yeah,
I'm just gonna just real quick. I'm gonna I didn't
get a chance. And they're kind of like, I think
he's on a phone call something like that. So to
day before they say anything, I'm just gonna like, what's
the big deal. I'm just gonna open this door right
now and just say, hey, thanks. I didn't get a
chance to say, hey, you know, let's get some sushi
(33:33):
here in Russia. It must be good something. I opened
the door, I poked my head in. This gentleman's there
and he's on the phone and he goes like this.
He goes, clearly, in your experience, you have not been
taught good manners very well. Now please close the door.
(34:02):
To imagine they took my It's like this, this is
my first impression with with who could have nobody? Nobody
was it was fair because now this moment's happening where
I get to go. I'm so sorry ever o from
that dor mister efforts, and thank you for being so nice.
You could have decapitated me if you want to go.
(34:26):
But it was just it's it's my brush with greatness,
you know.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Unique. Eric Roberts like.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
What he do?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I know, Eric Roberts, I was at the Black Sea.
I opened the door and looked at me, like, close
the door, you little pimple. You know how he's on
the phone with Of course you were you.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Really probably that's the only about.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Well then, a man, it makes it perfectly logical.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Well what Stephen.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
On normal circumstances, I would say, well, yeah, that's what happens.
But under these circumstances I am with her.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I have to say I apologize to you.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Oh you don't have to apologize for my wife? Is
that sounding board for me too? I mean, both my
daughters are now grown up married. My oldest daughter, Elijah,
has my first granddaughter, Iris is her name, and she's intergalactic.
(35:29):
The kid is already Branda. She's three and a half
she's Branda. So every time she's a brando thing, they
look at me, Grandpa, and I look at them. Go
God is good all the time, all the time. God
is good. It's genetics. It's not my fault, and they
don't believe a word of it. So, but it's wonderful
(35:53):
to hear you say something like that, because not many
people in this business do give real solid pudos and
compliments to their spouses.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Oh, I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be on the planet,
let alone in this room if it weren't for my wife.
Because she picked up the pieces and they were good
pieces to work with, but they were in pieces, sure,
but she picked them up and she read it and
she said, okay, let's get back to work. I said, okay,
because I'm a great follower if I have a great leader,
(36:27):
and the only leader I've had really in my adult
life is my wife. And I so enjoy not only
the view from the back, but I enjoy following. You know,
I have no issues with it, and I just I
just found the temperament I have and temperament she has.
(36:50):
Our opposites, but they go together like hand in glove,
and that's what's happened for us.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
She's the ying to your yang.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
It's so tacky to say it like that, and it's
so true. Yeah, but it is. I don't believe in
any ying and yang. I'm a little creepy born again Christian,
but with my life. I'll tell if this makes sense
in the in the Honeymooner's aspect of my marriage, I'm
(37:18):
certainly Jackie Gleason, meaning I am the genius that knows
everything seventy percent of the time, but that thirty percent,
you know, we were.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
To have lost the house. Where's that receipt? You know,
it's just.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Whatever that simple thing is. But I think that's the
cosmic balance of things.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
You know.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
When I speak of her, I get very moved because
I feel I feel the real core of what this means,
and I feel I can never convey it because it's
so precious. So it like moves me like a child
being happy about describing Handa Claus.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Now they even cry, and then it it is, It's.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Like that's kind of where I go in my mind.
I act very cool because I'm an actor, but I'm
like silly, silly, silly, dependent, dependently in love with this woman.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
And you can call it what you want. Have you
made it your mother.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Well on Tuesdays?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Sometimes, but but it's so textured.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
It's also sexy, and it's it's satisfying to have it,
and I don't really need anything else except to get
the bills paid.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
You know, when you get twenty years then yeah, but
it takes work, and the work that it takes is
for me.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I won't get all spiritual about it too much from
my perspective, other than the greatest way now I understand
to show people what God means to me is to
express that through my marriage as best I can, as
best I can, you know, and again late in the game,
(39:16):
this June is thirty four years married for me. Wow, yeah,
thirty four years. You were a kid longer than Elik
forget about it. But he's older than me, with twenty
seven kids under the edge of ten, exact right, He's busy.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But that's powerful and it's important, you know, when.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
You find that breath, when you find that balance, that
you don't let the world try to take it away
from it.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
The longer I'm in this, the more I need it,
the more it is me.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
What I'm hearing from you is if a tennis instructor
came along in the future, you'd have to like speak
to him because you know what I'm saying, you need this,
you need this.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
But where I'm thoroughly protected from other men all the
roles I played, they all think I'm out in my shop.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
I did something similar with my daughters. Everyone ever they
were dating a guy. You know, you had to say
the old have her home by ten. Yeah, you know
you're cleaning your shotgun. I just did like a thirty
second trailer of every kick, punch, stab and shoot that.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I did in one hundred films.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
That's cute.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah, we just watch this shorty for thirty seconds, all right,
and when the lights came up, I went, have her
home by ten.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, that's it. You know I'm the focused. Of course,
you really do that with my daughter? Would kill me
if I were that.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
It's a good idea, that it's that's what you thought,
good idea.
Speaker 9 (41:01):
Some fan probably petid and tell him that, I don't
know what about three months ago, I got a montage
from a fan of all the people I've killed, and
then from another fan who didn't know that fan, I
got a montage of all the times I've died.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I have killed thousands, I've died hundreds.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, but there's also one of all the times you cried.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Oh yeah, but but but but that was just said
to me.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
That's just something.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, yeah, you have sent you a link. It's really good.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
I was told I was the biggest shown the world
in Russia. Beginning beginnings like Elvis Presley and Russia. Okay,
let's make movies.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
That was nineteen ninety three. Then cut to twenty twenty four.
I've done forty four movies there. I go there all
the time. I have a great time. Okay, I do
an interview. How do you feel about the war in Ukraine?
I stand with Ukraine that day, pudent' cancel my visa?
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I can't go back to it.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Is that public knowledge? Obviously, Well.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
It is. It was out there a little bit.
Speaker 8 (42:02):
But but but no, when we went to where we're
going today after this, where they want us to bring you.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Stephen is a.
Speaker 8 (42:12):
Ukrainian filmmaker's house who does stuff in Kazakhstan, Ukraine and
Russia and now has to shoot in Santa Clarita because
Eric can't get a visa anymore.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
So he wants you to come and be in a
scene with Eric.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
By the way, number one, I'm in number two, boutin
thank you for Can I say that just if I
have to cut it out, I will, I'll beep out
the s Okay, forgive me. I like unique conversations.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
You're dead serious.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
That was the timeline of what transfers. You literally said,
I stand with them.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
That day your visa, your visa was canceled to your work.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Visa to Russia.
Speaker 8 (42:55):
The person who always does our visas for Russia, which
are always expert and everything, and it's a.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Whole you've done how many films they were ready.
Speaker 8 (43:03):
For many many and appearances you have to Yeah, it
came with the link to the to the to the
I want.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
To start a movie studio now in America. I a
little this could be the but this could be the
new remote studio right here that we we set up
movies for Eric and Russia, so that everybody wants to
work for there can now just film you from here.
(43:34):
So the whole thing where you just act from here
in your Russian films. We booked you from here, and
we circumvent little hooty tooty pooty.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
Also, I got to tell you, Russian actors are good man.
Russian actors are cool to work with. They do their homework.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
You've been over there.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
A bunch like question.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Forgive me, it's not it's not meant to be purposely silly.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Segal. Do you see do you know him at all? No?
Speaker 6 (44:01):
You know he lives there? He does now, Yeah, he's
been there a while. I hear he gave up his
American citizenship.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Oh I don't know that.
Speaker 8 (44:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think he just got a Russian passport,
but I don't think he gave up his.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Isn't that what Oliver Stone?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, Oliver Stone did?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Or I didn't know that he's full time lives in Russia.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Nobody got in double trouble because he because he also
had said in many years ago, in an interview in Russia,
way before any of this, they said, would you ever
would you ever want to be able to have dual
citizenship and have a Russian past?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
And he said yeah.
Speaker 8 (44:37):
And so then the people in Ukraine then wrote to
us heartbroken with these huge arts a long right.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
They hate him.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
I don't want to you know, I'm the rocket scientist,
but if somebody said, come do a movie with us
right now for X amount of money in Russia, I
wouldn't go.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
That's just me because you're just call me crazy.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I understand.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
So I think that's weird. I mean, just on a
common sense level. But none of this stuff is common.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
So it's baby ish, it's it's it's childishes.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
It's just you know, because when's the last time you
saw Eric Roberts on a big white horse with his
shirt off?
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Right, But Vlattie putin he's doing it every weekend for
crying out loud.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
I think if we edit this episode correctly, Eric, it's
safe to say that my visa will be revoked. And
shortly after this public questions, Yes, sir, please, of all.
Speaker 7 (45:31):
The movies that you've done, which movies of yours like?
Stand up to you?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
What's highlights?
Speaker 6 (45:36):
I made a lot of movies, so I have a
lot of favorites. King of the Gypsy Star, eighty, Runaway Train,
It's My Party, Love is a Gun, Purgatory, and and
and my favorite job I ever had in my career
was when I was on Righteous.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Oh yeah, it's my favorite character I ever play.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Wow, that's amazing to.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Hear you say, junior, he talked, he is. I loved him.
I loved him so.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Much, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
I loved him.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
He was based on my best friend and my cousin
that voice.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah awesome.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Hmm, yeah, that's a highlight. Okay, I have a random
questive one.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
Yeah, but I can go when you're reading scripts and
choosing parts, do you care less now about like how
stuff will hold up? Because it sounds like more and
more every day. Family is the most important thing.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
I've become completely self centered. I used to be artistic,
and we can I do this?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Can I do this?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Now?
Speaker 6 (46:41):
It's uh, this will be fun. I mean it's a
whole other process. And uh and and I just and
also this is my these are my brains, right, it's
a beautiful package here, all my brains, my common sense,
my power of reason, it's all in this gorgeous situation
(47:02):
next to me. And I use it as such. I do,
like what do we do?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
And you know what's amazing? You know who gets to
see your best work? That girl?
Speaker 7 (47:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (47:15):
But but yeah, a man.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
And also I could cry when I say this because
but I won't. But but like just the other day
she saw this short I made and I was out
of town.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I get home and oh.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
By the way, I saw that shortness. Oh yeah, how
was it? She just honey, you were unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
Oh my god, it's like she friends kissed me. I mean,
I get so like, whoa, because it's her telling me.
Because she's seen everything from her whole life, her parents.
I mean, she's seen the kremin or kreme of quality
work and stuff and everything in her life way before me,
and then she had and she says that to me,
(47:57):
It's like, it's it's getting kissed.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
That's is the rest of the time. I'm saying to you,
what is so difficult about folding the dish? Time? When
I see it.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
It's kind of true.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
For a minute movie of yours and I'm like, that
was brilliant. You're like, thank god, it's not about the dish.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Anyway.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
It's not quite that throwaway. She actually took it upon
herself to make sure and the ship it was. That's
and it makes me feel like a whole person.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, that my other half.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
Now, have there ever been any times where she had
to pull you aside and say, you know what, maybe
you do you need another take? You're the toughest critic
to every day.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
It does, it does, it does happen, especially with comedy,
and then.
Speaker 6 (48:45):
Comedy and then she straightens my ass out right.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Really yeah, no, no, no, she's been your producer on
some projects. The boss, great boss.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
I think it's all the Jedi mind trick, and I
I think you're just puppy dog, puppy, madly in love.
So now you've orchestrated this whole thing where now you
work for her sometimes so she could just boss you around.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, it's sound familiar.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
All good, All good.
Speaker 8 (49:16):
Wait, since we're gonna go to lunch afterwards, yes, ma'am,
we should think of all the things that we would
be saying at lunch, saying if only we'd done that
during the thing.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
What are they going to be?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Okay? Can I just say this?
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Yes, one bad movie is Steve Baldwin being silly, trying
to love people talk about interesting things, but hopefully with
great performers and entertainers about their craft. So this is
a weird pseudo creation of mine, where yeah, can I
(49:55):
get you in the room, because the idea is, let's
talk about a bad movie which you had to explain
why that was. And you're blessed because you're not too
many of them. In my hundred movies, I have like
twenty official Like I could show you trailers of stuff
that were.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
We got them.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
There's a couple.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
There's a couple in there sounder under the kind of
interesting idea of that subject. I've just sat here and guys,
God bless you. Mister Roberts just told stories that I
don't believe he's ever told before. Yes, and that's gonna
bless young I look at you, sir, young actors.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
It's gonna bless them to go, wait what was that?
Speaker 4 (50:35):
And oh yeah, I remember him and and he's related
to this person and Stevens related to that person and.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Blah blah blah. But what he had to say about
the work was unique. And yep, thank you brother, so much.
Thank you. Yes, Okay, because here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
If I'm saying thank you to the to the body,
great to the brains, I say double thank you.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
You're double welcome.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Thank you very much for being here. I think we're
other than one Rando. Can I throw a rando random
random question?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Su eh? Because you could do, because you can. Please
just produce this idea. If he likes it, okay, if
we could raise enough money.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Because I have to respectfully say that to you because
you know what that means. You know, if I tell
you to let's go make the Titanic for five cents,
you're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Would you make a western?
Speaker 4 (51:35):
Would you make either an indie series western or movie
if it was fun? If you could play a fun
character like a sheriff, whatever you want, you know, the cook,
the guy who runs the saloon, whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
But do westerns interest you?
Speaker 6 (51:52):
Western's interesting almost as much as my wife's body. Wow,
they love the whole idea. And I've had horses in
my life, off and on my whole life. I haven't
had a name for six years now.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Maybe a little less.
Speaker 6 (52:09):
Maybe a little less, but but but horses and acting
and swimming are the three things I'm really good at.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Oh yeah, Oh I didn't.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Know se Purgatory. Are you guys like it?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Oh yeah, I got a great story for you about
the movie.
Speaker 6 (52:23):
Me and Sam Chev. I'm making a great Western director
by uh and uh leitle German director great cat and
so making this western and uh, you know, actors lie,
they say when they get a job.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Can you ride a horse.
Speaker 6 (52:38):
Oh yeah, okay, so Sam and on these big, tall,
badass horses we're sitting there with, and all the other
actors come out and they put them on horses. And now, now, guys,
we're gonna be in a stampede. Is gonna be about
one hundred riders. Here's the deal, though, if you can't ride,
you can't be in a stampede because if you come
awful horse, you might die.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Now, who could ride?
Speaker 8 (52:59):
On?
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Me and Sam raised our hands. It's all like, no,
I'm not doing this.
Speaker 6 (53:04):
So and we had this sampede scene of always Me
and Sam were the only actors in it.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
And so I'm so proud of me.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
He's fearless.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
H Well, you should think about putting something together. Oh
but why do you bring that up?
Speaker 4 (53:21):
Well, because I think what I do with my friends
is we come up with ideas for legends.
Speaker 6 (53:30):
Well, give me, give me a really good idea about
why this character is in that story, and then and
then you can sell me.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
Is there any historical Western theme character anything? Before you
say to me present it? Is there any one thing
you thought about or you don't care?
Speaker 6 (53:49):
From eighteen sixty four to eighteen eighty four is the
era that I would like to portray because it was
before where everything started to go modern, just before we're
horses were still the motor transportation eighty six eighteen eighty four,
(54:11):
that that generation, and uh.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
You just that's your early contingency. It's just the time zone.
Speaker 6 (54:17):
That's what I wanted. Time frame, that's what that's that's
stories I want to tell you.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
I did this TV show years ago with Josh Brolin called,
uh the Young Riders Roll, Yeah, Young Riders. We played
Pony Express Riders with Tony Zurby. But you know, it
was a fun little show we did. When I was
doing that show, you could never get.
Speaker 6 (54:39):
Eric except that's not true. I would never pull rank.
I would just be unavailable.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
Thank yous. But but but uh, you see my logic
for asking that question. Is there anything? Is there? Is
there a Sinatra of the Is there a Billy the
Kid thing? Is there anything you liked in that period?
Or you just like Apple Usa?
Speaker 4 (55:03):
You want to how about a wonderful horse story from
that time?
Speaker 6 (55:07):
It was just after after the Big Goal Wars had
exploded on the West coast, and uh, uh that that
there there was still the possibility of whole, but about
about going west and getting gold. But a lot of
guys didn't go because it was already gotten. So there's
all that going on, and uh, I just.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Want to went out, went out, went out, went out, want.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
To education people on also the state of America at
that time because of the whole, the whole, everything from
the racial divide to the religious divide. There's so much cool, meady,
meaty stuff in there, and we need to tell it,
we need and we need to tell it.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Well, Jared's a writer, too cool.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
But just some original thought and if it could be
you know, I don't mean black, but if it could
be some horse motivated poetic something that then reflected these
other things. Okay, I'll get back to you. No, seriously,
there's no other way to say. It'll just yeah, I'm
(56:15):
feeling it in the holy ghost. So once that happens,
it's already done.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
So shocks. What else do? Let's go eat.
Speaker 4 (56:26):
Let's bless you man, Thank you God, bless you.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
May you continue, thank you.
Speaker 7 (56:37):
You need to think well, of course, of course, but I.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
Just want to I want to give it eric a
little wink wink on. So may God continue to bless
you with this point of view. Get it, you said
you liked to this point of right. Thank you, amazing,
Thanks guys, Thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
It's fun that you're.
Speaker 4 (57:00):
Gonna nothing during the richly sets up guilty pleasures. This
sunder food, it's.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
So bad, it's good.
Speaker 4 (57:09):
One bad move, the only sugar
One Bad Movie.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
That's a great title, One bad Movie. I love that,
You're gonna love the cast. My mom is Robert.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
You want to yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear that. I'm
gonna have an embarrass something said to me. So that
sounds good.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
That's a great title of her show, One bad Movie.
I'm so jealous. That's such a great title. Oh yeah,
one bad So can I explain it quickly?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes, explain?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And I have to beet.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I have to tread lately with you, sir, just because
I am. I told her, and I told her I'm
fangirling a little bit later, just so I can get
out what I need to get out later, because Brother Too.
Films Star eighty and Papa Granta Village are films I
watched many many met Eric many times, two actor buddies
(00:54):
of mine. When I was coming up with Sam Rockwell,
we had the same agent. It was we were both
and last exit to Brooklyn as little tiny supporting actors.
We would play a game like we welcome and go.
We would quote so, brother, please, it's that thing.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So I'll circle back. If that's okay, I'll just follow you. Yeah,
I know I love him. Please, I'm telling you now,
Stevie's crazy. Those guys were my crew.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
We were like a little crew and uh and we
were all trying to like do what we thought was
method and oh my god, it was a disaster. No,
it's what got me sober. That movie got me sober
back then. YEA, yeah, it's a long story.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah I was.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I was doing that was a long time ago. I
was drinking like a sailor. But one bad movie is
an idea out of frustration. About twelve months ago, I
was sitting home and upstate with New York with my wife.
June tenth is my thirty fourth wedding anniversary. Yeah, and
(02:10):
I bowed to your oracle.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I already said, that's what my wife the oracle.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So I'm watching this interview and it's a it's a
great interview, a new movie coming out, this great new
actor and all that's yummy. And I just sent to myself,
I went.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I'm glad I don't have to do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Just meaning the studio.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Now, this is just me talking the studio radio round table,
having to say the same thing over and over again.
I did that, and I'm this weirdo.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Eric.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You'll learn in this conversation like, I'm I don't want
to be a Marvel guy.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I don't want to be in Marvel movies.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I want to do little movies and write and direct
for the rest of my life. At fifty seven, so
I'm watching this interview and I say, up, you know,
I'm kind of not into that kind of vibration anymore.
I said, but wouldn't it be cute, Like here's this actor, right,
wouldn't it be too funny to talk about like his
one bad movie because every actor has like at least
(03:08):
one bad movie. I just said it to myself and
I said one bad like a literally like a poem.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I just went one bad movie. That's funny, and I
called John sitting over there. They're gonna chime him in later,
but yeah, I called Gian, I said one bed, Like,
could there be this thing where you talk to actors
about their what it's perfect?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So good?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Will you talk to everybody about their one mad movie?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
The foundation of why I work. Okay, Eric Roberts, you're
you're you're flipping the thing here, Eric Roberts. Here's what
we have to do every time in this interview is
Eric Roberts, what's your one bad movie.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Comedy Hell.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
That's the title of the film, comedy Hell. We're gonna
talk about comedy Hell.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
It is right.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yes, I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Know, you know, house progressed children? Are we rock.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
That you're having fun? Comedy Hell is the title of
the picture. I'm going there now because I do always
just it's fresh for me.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
What's it about?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I don't even remember.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
It's just it's just so I remember shooting it, and
I remember thinking, as you're shooting it, you're here as
a favorite, So just relax.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Herek even though it's embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
That's how I felt, right, Yeah, yeah, but I got
through it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And did that happen ever in your past more than
once or just that one to that degree only that
one time? Really the.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Degree of bad movie that qualifies comedy help.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
There can be conditions that qualify.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
So the log line for it on IMDb is three
stand up comedians cross paths with a religious zealot who's
killing devil worshipers, blasphemers and now comedians.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Wow, what's the charge? I hope he's like a sheriff.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
He could religious.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, A lot of.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
That was amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Okay, that just that just means that we're on the
right path. Here, we're on the right path.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
But now I don't even want to go further just
with a guests like you know, and he shoots the
evangelist like I just you know, who knows, but I
love the just whatever that your time there this that
that was just one of those.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Have we started the show? Yeah, we were already like
we've already been recorded.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Okay, this is how we do this, and then we
they chime in.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I'm just an old fashioned guy. I'm like, okay, three
two one year on that.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Okay, well we may stop and go and do that
as well.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
But because it's taped, because we can edit it, correct things,
you know, take stuff out, you know whatever.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Here's what I like to you guys, because I'm not
a smiley guy. I she'll tell you, but I like
to smile on camera when I'm being interviewed. It's as
simple as that, yeah you're on here, okay. So almost
like if we were I'm saying now, oh yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Smiling, I would not have picked up that. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
But but but I also get comfortable by staring, by
knowing what everybody's doing, and so so so I always
look a little is he here yet?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:27):
And I understand that, but I don't care as long
as I'm not on camera. But I'm on camera, it's
either the red lights. Hi, okay, so here we got.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Great sad lips.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
It's so bad, it's good.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Guilty, bless this sun.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's so bad. It's one bad deal.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Now I'm gonna digress. I graduated high school nineteen eighty four.
Did you graduate after that or before that?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I never graduated from high school.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
That may really be true.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
I'm not sure if you are in Grady, if you're
in your senior year, Grady eye, I don't know if
that ever.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I have a diploma, wife, Well, anybody can.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Get what years the diploma? What year is the diploma from?
Please it's from nineteen seventy four, seventy four. Wow.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
That you're right in the same as my big brother,
same as Alec as Alec seventy and when I was
coming out of high school, I went to the American
Academy Dramatic Arts.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That's a program.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
You have to be invited to your audition and then
for the second year you have to be invited back,
which I was not. I wasn't disciplined enough. Yeah, it's okay.
I'm okay with it. But again with some of the
hooligans in New York City, I was hanging with the
guys I did last Exit to Brooklyn. Some of these actors,
I'm going to just take a couple of minutes to just.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I was such a good cat movie.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh, the movie's brilliant. The movie's brilliant. And we were.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Talking Peter Peter you know him, Peter Dobson. He's a
young actor that I became such a fan of through
my wife. My wife were hanging out one night. She said,
I have to go meet Peter Peter Who Peter Dobson,
Come on here, come with us. So what an entertaining, wonderful,
innert smart, funny, intelligent, genuine politics.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Everything about him.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Is just righteous, genuine. I love him down to Peter Dobson.
He's the real real Yeah. Now, the rest of those
cast members of the Little Hooligan pack in the movie
because Stephen Lang was in it, Yes, right, Bert Young
was in it. It's just a brilliant film based on
the book by Hubert Selby Jr. Fantastic History. Sam rock Well,
(09:00):
who's now.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know, Yes, Jennifer Jay.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Actor, she's incredible like you, sir, So let me turn,
let me get back to my subject here, Okay, my
little popa Greenwich Village man.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Jennifer is wonderful. But Jennifer Jason, I worked with.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Her twice and she's exactly that thing. So coming up
to your performances were something that The only way to
say this from one actor to another is great.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Acting requires a.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Certain very similitude within oneself imagination, that childlike thing, whatever
your technique is. But it also requires focus. Focus for
me is probably the most important thing. So Star eighty Papa,
I can't have you for the whole day. So both
(09:57):
movies would take six hours, but this one's only going
to take three, kidding, Papa. Grenade Village. I watched it
again last night and this morning just to remind myself
of those moments where I went.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Half ah, where did that come from?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
And I mean that, brother, I could get well weepy
right now talk about because I have a great passion
for greatness. So you know, there's the people that you
looked up to and what that meant to you and
the stuff they did which was nice, but for me,
like instant hepatitis.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know these little things right now.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
But these little things, you know, of course I wouldn't
have done it if I thought I was going to
be wrong, you know, just it just there's a couple
of these floaties that if I may like when they say, oh,
Brando picks the leaf off her shoulder.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
To me, that's the same thing.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
When you see certain nuances in a performance that is uncanny, unreplicable,
it's it brands itself. So you have branded yourself.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Well, let me let me look. I love kind words.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I love you.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I find you intelligent and talented, so I love the
kind words are coming from you. But let me tell
you something. There's only one line in the Pope Greenwich
Village that's ad lived. Vinnie Patrick wrote everything that came
out of my mouth. There's one line in that movie.
It's a very good line. However, it's mine, thank you.
But but no, that was all Vinnie Patrick. Vinnie Patrick
(11:44):
is a genius, and he's overlooked because I'm the guy
on the camera.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
He's who gave me that idea. Because of the dialogue.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Now, he was written as a tough, kind of a dome,
kind of cindable guy, and I inverted him into something else.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
But is that all you did? Circling back on that one? Love,
go ahead, but I forgot what I was saying.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
You're talking about the mont what Stephen saying? Those tipping
point Oh.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, there's only one that was mine. It
was all Vinni's because of the dialogue, told me how
to play it, and so he was a great guide
as a writer.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
What was the line?
Speaker 6 (12:25):
The line that lived is after I lose my thumb
and I go to the hospital and I have the
thing about the pills and all that stuff and I'm
all messed up. It's it's it's a scene after when
a Charlie is serving Polly's soup and he has read
on the side of the played in. My line was
white bread, no one of these wascott no color. That
(12:46):
was mine, But everything else is Vinnie Patrick. Every sitilable
is Vinnie Patrick. And he guided me through the language
how to play that guy.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And it was it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Was a language that actually gave me the idea, Oh,
this guy's not tough. He wants to be tough, but
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Gonna play him tough. And it was all from Vinnie.
You know, I'm not a bad actor. But I'm not
terribly intelligent, as my wife will attest you, and so
you know it's got to come organically or it doesn't
come with me.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, you're extremely humble, and it's also probably why you've
been so successful and great.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
No, my wife can also say him not unbelieving you are.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Okay, actually, okay. What I mean by that is.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
You're cognizant now at this stage of your life of
your wellness and your health, and you're sticking with what works.
That takes humility because some guys with your gifting can
have a little attitude, okay, And I think that's really cool,
especially for younger people to see in here. And by
(13:57):
the way, you just told a little story about they
took my thumb, Charlie, right, you know, yeah, many, I
bet you if you google for him later they took
my thumb, Charlie and showed the different YouTube videos that
have been put.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Up just from that line. I'll bet it's in the millions.
That'd be fun to do. And I've got all day. Yes,
it was all the writer.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And I watched an interview with the director and Mickey
where he said the same thing. He said, it's it's
all this it's an old interview and he goes it
was it was right around with the Indiana Jones movies
were coming out back then, and he goes, hey, look
this is a little movie.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And he said, really, the.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Coolest thing about you he just said, look, and you know,
it's it's so cool to be eye to eye at
the same level with another actor.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Who you know, who I.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Respect, Who's Who's he even said, like, who's one of
the best actors.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But so on the frequency of back in the eighties
and the nineties.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Tremino part of one bad movie is to invite you
to like express what that meant to you back then.
The difference between filmmaking back then and filmmaking now. Do
you feel like the techno part in the industry is
kind of taken.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Over to Well, let me tell you a story to
an example of how completely different it was when we
had film the year I made The Pope of Greenwich Phillage.
I got the script in January, I was I was
doing a play up at Hartford. I was doing I
was doing last naturally because Tennis Williams had just died,
so everybody was doing Williams. So I was out there
(15:42):
doing that. I get a script in a book from
Cotching Costner. Uh the producers they and they said, read
this book. Read the script. Pick apart Pauli or Charlie. Okay,
I read the book. I read the script. I read
the book again. The book is good, man, I go
back the script. God, they're identical. Who wrote Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
He wrote them both?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Vinnie Patrick?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
How cool is see?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I picked Paulie and they said, we want to pick Charlie.
I said, what handsome leading man who wears suits.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
He's cool.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
We thought it's time that you do that, I said.
I said, nah, I like the other part. But here's
the deal. He's written like a dumb, tough thug. I'm
not going to play that because that's been played to
death by everybody, including me.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I want to play something very different, but very in
the grain of that world. And he said, like what.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I said, Well, I've been spending time down there watching
those guys and they're all a bunch of mama's boys.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And they said yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I said, well, I.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Want to play a mama's boy who doesn't want to
be a mama's boy. Okay, you know we hired you
for you, so whatever you do is fine with us.
They didn't get it at first, though, so I said, okay,
so that's January, so Fairbuary, March, April, May, June, July.
I lose thirty pounds. I purn my hair, I learned
my dialect. I shut ready to go, let's make a movie.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Did you really.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Those days you could take that time? Because you're talking
abou the difference.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Between oh yeah, that's that's the difference to me. You know,
you know, between now and then.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Because now you're off from a movie on a Friday,
can you be there Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And you're like, yes, sure, I a wife. Can I
be their Sunday? Yes, Eric, You're okay, that's how we
make movies. Now. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
But it's just as far as you know, as much as.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
As much as you want to share that you want to.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
But if you were teaching an acting class and a
student said, tell me about those months between then and
showing up on the set, why did you perm your
hair and why did he talk the way he did,
and why did you choose to go the other way
with the character?
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Okay, from the time I told him I wanted to
play Pauli, and they said, okay, go with it. I
started spending time down in literally but innocuously. I would
not Robert is here and none of that. I would
just show up and hang out and uh in restaurants,
on street corners and parks, just all in that area.
And I know everybody in Chinatown, everybody literally. But it
(18:12):
was not as an actress as as I go, hey,
you know, just but I spent and and I spent
time talking to those guys, hanging out those guys, watching
those guys with each other. And what I got the
the most of from that time of my life, the
understanding of peeps is, uh, we're all a bunch of
babies who just get tall and uh and uh and
(18:35):
I and I realized that the most then, because these
tough guys will and the dress cool, they drive cool,
they all cool, they smell cool, everything's cool.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And their babies don't do that to me. And you're
not tough guys.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
And when I saw it, I gotta, I gotta bring
that to the screen because it's so entertaining and it's
so it's so endearing, yeah yeah, yeah, and it's so
delicate and and so it's vulnerable yeah, it is, and
and that's where I got that, just by watching those
guys on the street.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Okay, I'm not until you slap me, because no, I
just want I almost want to be that kid in
the class for a second, just say I get everything
you decide. But again, the nuance of the character, the
way he talked, was it a dialect you zeroed in
on or okay, correct, I'm not going to that. What
was their technical behavioral stuff that you applied.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, a technical aspect of it.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
That kind of character you have to be careful because
he can also drown you in a performance, and that
you can't act while other people are talking, you know
what I mean. Yes, you have to be polite, and
not only for them, but the survival of the interest
of your character. You can't shove him down everybody's throat, right,
(19:59):
I have to than want anymore. So so so yeah,
it's a trick and the only place as an actor technically,
you know, you know, you're doing my homework that I
was nervous about.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I can overdo this and blow it in. If I
blow it, I blow it big.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Is the one page monologer have that after I lose
my thumb when I come to it to Charlie's apartment
and Jolie.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
They took my thom that.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Speech and my baby sister Lisa ran that speech with
me endlessly because I would change inflection, I would change rhythm,
and I really worked out and I really found how
it was going to work, and I got it where
it was like it was like a great old like
one insured I could put it on really quick and
wear it well, you know, I really got And so
(20:48):
I didn't know how I was gonna do that speech
on that day because I had I had found so
many avenues into it. I just let it ride and
I knew it and I have my sister Lisa the
thing for them.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
But you knew the words well enough. Oh yeah, I
knew the words. Here's why I ask.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
If you look the way it was filmed, you must
have had to do it several times twice. That's it,
two angles or how many cameras?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Do you remember?
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Two cameras once, one camera once twice? Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
It didn't look like that.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, all those cuts.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
This is what's called thespianic Gold's like for thespians.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
This is and that was the only day. The night
the night before that speech. You know, Mickey doesn't learn dialogue,
and so I told Mickey for that speech, he said,
you got to do me a favor.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You have a line tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
A line, just the one, and I need that because
it's a transitional line, like I have a speech.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You know, you know, what's hell happened here? She left me.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I gotta have that line. And then I had the
other line about why and uh. And I got to
have him in the right place because I changed direction
with those lines. So you got to give them to
me in the right place, Okay, dude, And he goes,
no problem. So then we show up, we're having a
run through, and he doesn't know his lines. It's the
only time on any set ever I've ever pulled the
(22:19):
actor card. I said, I'll be in my trailer till
he learns his line. And I walked up the set.
They call him about half an I'm like, we also
warned him, No, no, I just I just could not
get caught up and getting make you ready because I
had a job.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It was big, so.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I couldn't get caught up in that. So when when
he has just together, I'll be back back. And so
about half and hourly he knows his line. So I
went back and we killed it, and uh and and
uh and Mickey Roar is the most brilliant, fun.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Guy to work with in the world.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
But you have to be ready yet you have to
carry your own weight because he's not gonna help you
with you away.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
It's amazing that you started with Micky saying, well, you
knew he just doesn't learn his lines. I did a
very small film with them, and I'm going to tell
this whole story in ninety seconds. And it's the first
day on the set, and I see he already knows
what's coming. It's the first day on the set, and
I called him and he did a favor and where
(23:21):
we paid him this money and he showed up and
it was a lovely little picture called fall Time, with
a great little cast, and Mickey's the biggest actor obviously
in the cast. But it's this cameo situation wh we're
shooting him in three days. So we're sitting there and
he's in his chair and they're lighting, and we're probably
(23:41):
ten minutes from shooting, so he's kind of on the
set a little early. And I recognized that. I'm like, oh, hey, bro.
He's like, yeah, talking for a few minutes, and he
says to me, so, what do we shooting?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And I go, oh, yeah, yeah. He's say, oh yeah,
this is his assistants.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
There, and he like leans over to the fifteen and
then he starts talking to me again.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
This goes on and you know what's coming. So six
or seven minutes into.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
This, he's asking the like the third question was, and
what's the scene right before this?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And I'm going with this.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Guy, there's no way he doesn't know what we're shooting.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Yeah, And I'm sitting look at your.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Fast and I walk up to him and I go
because I brought him on the film, yeah, And I go,
you're ready to shoot? He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
gonna be great. But you've asked me like everything required
to like understand like from my side that you don't
have any fn idea what we're doing right now. He goes, no,
(24:43):
I just had to you know, refresh my memory.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
He goes.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I go, oh, okay, that's when I learned that process
about him. But quickly I'll land this plane. We start shooting.
We're about to break for lunch. We've been shooting four
hours and he has this line where he says, we're
on the precipice of a whole new something right before lunch.
(25:09):
Paul Warner is the director's little nervous. It's the first
day with Mickey. We're rehearsing and he turns around. He goes, uh,
doesn't work, Mickey, Right, So I go, what doesn't work?
Precipice of a whole new era is the line doesn't work.
Twenty minutes later, we're on a little budget movies a
(25:31):
lot time. I mean, you now have craft service guys
going Millennia. Yeah, you know, just there's anything to get
him to say, you know, to get on his mark.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So and he's my friend and I go to him
and I go, we gotta shoot. I go, we gotta shoot.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
He goes, yeah, okay, yeah, let's shoot it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He goes just like this right, And.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
It's a scene with me where he's doing my neck tie.
I'm just like a sidekicking. He's doing my time for
me and he's talking to me and he goes, so
listen and he's gonna work out because we're on the
precipice of a whole new precipice.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It's in the movie. You're like finet, moving.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
On, freak for lunch, but one more then't move on, No,
don't take hold of It's priceless.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Uh, he calls me.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
This is back in before the restaurant when heavy. He
calls the office and uh and and he says.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Dude, you work every day? What is that about?
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm on the lucky ones. Dude, Yeah,
well make me lucky. I need a job. Okay, well
I'm making this moing a little of that night, this
little roll in it. Blah blah, Yeah sure, Oh thanks dude. Okay,
so b blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Okay, great, dude, I love you.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I'll touch in him minute he shows up on the set,
It's all gonna happen, you know, mikey blah blah. And
I set it up and I happened to be there
as a friend. I'm not on the set that day.
And he has a dog, of course, And and then
you talk about seeing blah blah. Okay, let's shoot who
you're going to hand the dog off to?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
On the hand the dog off? What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (27:05):
No, he's in a movie. If I found a movie, No,
we can't. No, we can't have a dog be it's
a psychiatrist's not gonna work with a dog.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
No. But if I wind a movie, he's in a movie.
And so I just went home. I just, oh, I
gotta get out of here. I left.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
What what what if it came of that?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Okay, but it ended up happening.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
All of that was slightly different because it's close enough.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
We do have a lot more.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
I mean, you can bring dogs on planes and restaurants
and stuff now. But okay, Mickey's and we've done Mickey's
dogs before.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
When they did Spun, I was the dog sitter.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
And by the way, the day I showed up and
was the dog sitter, it happened I had been bitten
in the face by a dog and I was completely bandage.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I love dogs. This was a total accident. It was,
but you could barely see my face. And I had
just come.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
From from the and Mickey's like, when I'm going to
trust with what I can't remember it was Loki or
one of the other dogs.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
The only one I'm gonna trust with the dog is Eliza.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
And somebody said to him, you know, she just was
bitten by a dog, like an hour ago, and her
face is gone right, and he's like.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, this is fine. The dog won't know and and.
Speaker 8 (28:16):
The whole day, but the whole he'll stop in the
middle of a scene and be like, how's it.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
You're just you're doing the scene. How's the dog doing?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And he'll just be talking to the dog. But the
time that Eric's.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Talking about, this dog wasn't a wrangle dog. This was
not a movie dog. And and it would have been fine,
it could have worked, but the dog was being a
dog and wanted to do a lot of other things.
And Mickey wasn't just letting the dog go do other things.
Mickey would go do other things with the dog too,
So you just couldn't in.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
The shot was wherever he was.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, and that and.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
This came after the day of where this was one
of those movies where there's like no budget.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
The reason it's not quite the same story is I
do this since she does this, Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Just you understand that's brilliant in this.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
Case that the director they actually replaced him, actually paid
him and replaced.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Him with Michael Madsen. I mean, I don't know how you.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Who has been on this very program did you know
that one bad movie.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
We love Mickey very much, very very dearly, and he's
incredibly supportive. And his shout out for Eric at the
at the what you gonna call it spirit.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Wards, that had more effect on my on my day
to day life for quite a while than anything that's.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Happened in years, more than C A A U T A.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
When he got the when he when he got the
Independent Spirit Award for for the restler, like that's the trophy,
and it started talking about me.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, we were in the art you know, you know,
you never know what to say in these moments. It's
better to.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Talk about It's like somebody else of performing as as
an artist is to introduce the band.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I mean, banter is a pain in the ass. So
he just did. Couldn't think that. Say I saw him
zero in on Eric.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I was like, he's all, wait, here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Though he called her before that that awards someone he said,
I want Eric there, bring him, I want him there,
and she goes, Eric, you know, make you want you
your awards? Ceremoney for French better word, why.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Because because he does.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Okay, So I got dressed up and went so I'm
in the audience.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Yeah no, and he just said he just went to
the mic like this. He hadn't said anything. He just
won an a war.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
He just was, you know, he was exhumed from burial pretty.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Much like a therapist. I'm going to explain all this
in a minute. Please continue.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
And he just went into the to the thing and
he said, you can find it online, Eric Roberts, whatever
it was that he did fifteen years ago. Like, the
guy's brilliant. Isn't it time to forgive you forgave me?
So just let's give him a job.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
And they did, basically.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
But that's a men's thing. That's a mens thing. Oh totally.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I don't disagree.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
But isn't it funny? I'm gonna circle back again. Now
this is kind of how the business has changed too.
The mentioniness is kind of gone. So it's nice to
legends of cinema. You're a legend of cinema, can chat
about each other so lovingly and positively in the retrospect.
(31:21):
But I just again, before I forget, just thank you
for being here. This is just I'm uh, I was
very nervous before you got I was very nervous. Brother,
I smoked to American spirits.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Wow, you don't even smoke.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
We've hung out lots.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
I don't make you nervous. Why would I make you nervous.
We've hung out so many times.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I get to mucination. We have talked about such. Do
you remember what happened in Russia when I opened the
door to your car? Do you remember? Not specifically? I
love you, I know the story.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I want to hear.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
It was life changing. I'm gonna say, no, you're not
in trouble because you were nice.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
But you were Eric. So look, not a lot of
guys like we get to say this. I'm just provessive peak.
So we go because.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Of Bruno forget about it, no more.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
So. Yeah, okay, God bless him.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
And I go to that film festival on the Black
Sea and you're there and we're both doing appearances.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
No imagine.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I go to a film festival in in wherever I'm from, Pequa,
it's somewhere at the Black Sea.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I failed geography, That's what I.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Had to become an actor. So so I'm there at
this thing. Eric Roberts is there and before I get
a chance to go, hey.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Eric, Eric, Eric, So I go concentrate on the mic.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I can't forget that, Mica hold on.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
So I followed down. I'm now I'm going down to
my car to go to get my lunch or go
somewhere on the schedule. But I get down in there's
like Eric's people around a car. So Eric's in this car.
So I go to the people because I'm from Speakle.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Hey, what's up.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, we were just upstairs Steve Baldwin, Alex little brother. Yeah,
I'm just gonna just real quick. I'm gonna I didn't
get a chance. And they're kind of like, I think
he's on a phone call something like that. So to
day before they say anything, I'm just gonna like, what's
the big deal. I'm just gonna open this door right
now and just say, hey, thanks. I didn't get a
chance to say, hey, you know, let's get some sushi
(33:33):
here in Russia. It must be good something. I opened
the door, I poked my head in. This gentleman's there
and he's on the phone and he goes like this.
He goes, clearly, in your experience, you have not been
taught good manners very well. Now please close the door.
(34:02):
To imagine they took my It's like this, this is
my first impression with with who could have nobody? Nobody
was it was fair because now this moment's happening where
I get to go. I'm so sorry ever o from
that dor mister efforts, and thank you for being so nice.
You could have decapitated me if you want to go.
(34:26):
But it was just it's it's my brush with greatness,
you know.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Unique. Eric Roberts like.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
What he do?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I know, Eric Roberts, I was at the Black Sea.
I opened the door and looked at me, like, close
the door, you little pimple. You know how he's on
the phone with Of course you were you.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Really probably that's the only about.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Well then, a man, it makes it perfectly logical.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Well what Stephen.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
On normal circumstances, I would say, well, yeah, that's what happens.
But under these circumstances I am with her.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I have to say I apologize to you.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Oh you don't have to apologize for my wife? Is
that sounding board for me too? I mean, both my
daughters are now grown up married. My oldest daughter, Elijah,
has my first granddaughter, Iris is her name, and she's intergalactic.
(35:29):
The kid is already Branda. She's three and a half
she's Branda. So every time she's a brando thing, they
look at me, Grandpa, and I look at them. Go
God is good all the time, all the time. God
is good. It's genetics. It's not my fault, and they
don't believe a word of it. So, but it's wonderful
(35:53):
to hear you say something like that, because not many
people in this business do give real solid pudos and
compliments to their spouses.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Oh, I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be on the planet,
let alone in this room if it weren't for my wife.
Because she picked up the pieces and they were good
pieces to work with, but they were in pieces, sure,
but she picked them up and she read it and
she said, okay, let's get back to work. I said, okay,
because I'm a great follower if I have a great leader,
(36:27):
and the only leader I've had really in my adult
life is my wife. And I so enjoy not only
the view from the back, but I enjoy following. You know,
I have no issues with it, and I just I
just found the temperament I have and temperament she has.
(36:50):
Our opposites, but they go together like hand in glove,
and that's what's happened for us.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
She's the ying to your yang.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
It's so tacky to say it like that, and it's
so true. Yeah, but it is. I don't believe in
any ying and yang. I'm a little creepy born again Christian,
but with my life. I'll tell if this makes sense
in the in the Honeymooner's aspect of my marriage, I'm
(37:18):
certainly Jackie Gleason, meaning I am the genius that knows
everything seventy percent of the time, but that thirty percent,
you know, we were.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
To have lost the house. Where's that receipt? You know,
it's just.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Whatever that simple thing is. But I think that's the
cosmic balance of things.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
You know.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
When I speak of her, I get very moved because
I feel I feel the real core of what this means,
and I feel I can never convey it because it's
so precious. So it like moves me like a child
being happy about describing Handa Claus.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Now they even cry, and then it it is, It's.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Like that's kind of where I go in my mind.
I act very cool because I'm an actor, but I'm
like silly, silly, silly, dependent, dependently in love with this woman.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
And you can call it what you want. Have you
made it your mother.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Well on Tuesdays?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Sometimes, but but it's so textured.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
It's also sexy, and it's it's satisfying to have it,
and I don't really need anything else except to get
the bills paid.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
You know, when you get twenty years then yeah, but
it takes work, and the work that it takes is
for me.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I won't get all spiritual about it too much from
my perspective, other than the greatest way now I understand
to show people what God means to me is to
express that through my marriage as best I can, as
best I can, you know, and again late in the game,
(39:16):
this June is thirty four years married for me. Wow, yeah,
thirty four years. You were a kid longer than Elik
forget about it. But he's older than me, with twenty
seven kids under the edge of ten, exact right, He's busy.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But that's powerful and it's important, you know, when.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
You find that breath, when you find that balance, that
you don't let the world try to take it away
from it.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
The longer I'm in this, the more I need it,
the more it is me.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
What I'm hearing from you is if a tennis instructor
came along in the future, you'd have to like speak
to him because you know what I'm saying, you need this,
you need this.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
But where I'm thoroughly protected from other men all the
roles I played, they all think I'm out in my shop.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
I did something similar with my daughters. Everyone ever they
were dating a guy. You know, you had to say
the old have her home by ten. Yeah, you know
you're cleaning your shotgun. I just did like a thirty
second trailer of every kick, punch, stab and shoot that.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I did in one hundred films.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
That's cute.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah, we just watch this shorty for thirty seconds, all right,
and when the lights came up, I went, have her
home by ten.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, that's it. You know I'm the focused. Of course,
you really do that with my daughter? Would kill me
if I were that.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
It's a good idea, that it's that's what you thought,
good idea.
Speaker 9 (41:01):
Some fan probably petid and tell him that, I don't
know what about three months ago, I got a montage
from a fan of all the people I've killed, and
then from another fan who didn't know that fan, I
got a montage of all the times I've died.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I have killed thousands, I've died hundreds.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, but there's also one of all the times you cried.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Oh yeah, but but but but that was just said
to me.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
That's just something.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, yeah, you have sent you a link. It's really good.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
I was told I was the biggest shown the world
in Russia. Beginning beginnings like Elvis Presley and Russia. Okay,
let's make movies.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
That was nineteen ninety three. Then cut to twenty twenty four.
I've done forty four movies there. I go there all
the time. I have a great time. Okay, I do
an interview. How do you feel about the war in Ukraine?
I stand with Ukraine that day, pudent' cancel my visa?
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I can't go back to it.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Is that public knowledge? Obviously, Well.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
It is. It was out there a little bit.
Speaker 8 (42:02):
But but but no, when we went to where we're
going today after this, where they want us to bring you.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Stephen is a.
Speaker 8 (42:12):
Ukrainian filmmaker's house who does stuff in Kazakhstan, Ukraine and
Russia and now has to shoot in Santa Clarita because
Eric can't get a visa anymore.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
So he wants you to come and be in a
scene with Eric.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
By the way, number one, I'm in number two, boutin
thank you for Can I say that just if I
have to cut it out, I will, I'll beep out
the s Okay, forgive me. I like unique conversations.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
You're dead serious.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
That was the timeline of what transfers. You literally said,
I stand with them.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
That day your visa, your visa was canceled to your work.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Visa to Russia.
Speaker 8 (42:55):
The person who always does our visas for Russia, which
are always expert and everything, and it's a.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Whole you've done how many films they were ready.
Speaker 8 (43:03):
For many many and appearances you have to Yeah, it
came with the link to the to the to the
I want.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
To start a movie studio now in America. I a
little this could be the but this could be the
new remote studio right here that we we set up
movies for Eric and Russia, so that everybody wants to
work for there can now just film you from here.
(43:34):
So the whole thing where you just act from here
in your Russian films. We booked you from here, and
we circumvent little hooty tooty pooty.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
Also, I got to tell you, Russian actors are good man.
Russian actors are cool to work with. They do their homework.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
You've been over there.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
A bunch like question.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Forgive me, it's not it's not meant to be purposely silly.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Segal. Do you see do you know him at all? No?
Speaker 6 (44:01):
You know he lives there? He does now, Yeah, he's
been there a while. I hear he gave up his
American citizenship.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Oh I don't know that.
Speaker 8 (44:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think he just got a Russian passport,
but I don't think he gave up his.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Isn't that what Oliver Stone?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, Oliver Stone did?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Or I didn't know that he's full time lives in Russia.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Nobody got in double trouble because he because he also
had said in many years ago, in an interview in Russia,
way before any of this, they said, would you ever
would you ever want to be able to have dual
citizenship and have a Russian past?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
And he said yeah.
Speaker 8 (44:37):
And so then the people in Ukraine then wrote to
us heartbroken with these huge arts a long right.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
They hate him.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
I don't want to you know, I'm the rocket scientist,
but if somebody said, come do a movie with us
right now for X amount of money in Russia, I
wouldn't go.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
That's just me because you're just call me crazy.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I understand.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
So I think that's weird. I mean, just on a
common sense level. But none of this stuff is common.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
So it's baby ish, it's it's it's childishes.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
It's just you know, because when's the last time you
saw Eric Roberts on a big white horse with his
shirt off?
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Right, But Vlattie putin he's doing it every weekend for
crying out loud.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
I think if we edit this episode correctly, Eric, it's
safe to say that my visa will be revoked. And
shortly after this public questions, Yes, sir, please, of all.
Speaker 7 (45:31):
The movies that you've done, which movies of yours like?
Stand up to you?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
What's highlights?
Speaker 6 (45:36):
I made a lot of movies, so I have a
lot of favorites. King of the Gypsy Star, eighty, Runaway Train,
It's My Party, Love is a Gun, Purgatory, and and
and my favorite job I ever had in my career
was when I was on Righteous.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Oh yeah, it's my favorite character I ever play.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Wow, that's amazing to.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Hear you say, junior, he talked, he is. I loved him.
I loved him so.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Much, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
I loved him.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
He was based on my best friend and my cousin
that voice.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah awesome.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Hmm, yeah, that's a highlight. Okay, I have a random
questive one.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
Yeah, but I can go when you're reading scripts and
choosing parts, do you care less now about like how
stuff will hold up? Because it sounds like more and
more every day. Family is the most important thing.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
I've become completely self centered. I used to be artistic,
and we can I do this?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Can I do this?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Now?
Speaker 6 (46:41):
It's uh, this will be fun. I mean it's a
whole other process. And uh and and I just and
also this is my these are my brains, right, it's
a beautiful package here, all my brains, my common sense,
my power of reason, it's all in this gorgeous situation
(47:02):
next to me. And I use it as such. I do,
like what do we do?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
And you know what's amazing? You know who gets to
see your best work? That girl?
Speaker 7 (47:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (47:15):
But but yeah, a man.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
And also I could cry when I say this because
but I won't. But but like just the other day
she saw this short I made and I was out
of town.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I get home and oh.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
By the way, I saw that shortness. Oh yeah, how
was it? She just honey, you were unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
Oh my god, it's like she friends kissed me. I mean,
I get so like, whoa, because it's her telling me.
Because she's seen everything from her whole life, her parents.
I mean, she's seen the kremin or kreme of quality
work and stuff and everything in her life way before me,
and then she had and she says that to me,
(47:57):
It's like, it's it's getting kissed.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
That's is the rest of the time. I'm saying to you,
what is so difficult about folding the dish? Time? When
I see it.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
It's kind of true.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
For a minute movie of yours and I'm like, that
was brilliant. You're like, thank god, it's not about the dish.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Anyway.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
It's not quite that throwaway. She actually took it upon
herself to make sure and the ship it was. That's
and it makes me feel like a whole person.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, that my other half.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
Now, have there ever been any times where she had
to pull you aside and say, you know what, maybe
you do you need another take? You're the toughest critic
to every day.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
It does, it does, it does happen, especially with comedy,
and then.
Speaker 6 (48:45):
Comedy and then she straightens my ass out right.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Really yeah, no, no, no, she's been your producer on
some projects. The boss, great boss.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
I think it's all the Jedi mind trick, and I
I think you're just puppy dog, puppy, madly in love.
So now you've orchestrated this whole thing where now you
work for her sometimes so she could just boss you around.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, it's sound familiar.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
All good, All good.
Speaker 8 (49:16):
Wait, since we're gonna go to lunch afterwards, yes, ma'am,
we should think of all the things that we would
be saying at lunch, saying if only we'd done that
during the thing.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
What are they going to be?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Okay? Can I just say this?
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Yes, one bad movie is Steve Baldwin being silly, trying
to love people talk about interesting things, but hopefully with
great performers and entertainers about their craft. So this is
a weird pseudo creation of mine, where yeah, can I
(49:55):
get you in the room, because the idea is, let's
talk about a bad movie which you had to explain
why that was. And you're blessed because you're not too
many of them. In my hundred movies, I have like
twenty official Like I could show you trailers of stuff
that were.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
We got them.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
There's a couple.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
There's a couple in there sounder under the kind of
interesting idea of that subject. I've just sat here and guys,
God bless you. Mister Roberts just told stories that I
don't believe he's ever told before. Yes, and that's gonna
bless young I look at you, sir, young actors.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
It's gonna bless them to go, wait what was that?
Speaker 4 (50:35):
And oh yeah, I remember him and and he's related
to this person and Stevens related to that person and.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Blah blah blah. But what he had to say about
the work was unique. And yep, thank you brother, so much.
Thank you. Yes, Okay, because here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
If I'm saying thank you to the to the body,
great to the brains, I say double thank you.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
You're double welcome.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Thank you very much for being here. I think we're
other than one Rando. Can I throw a rando random
random question?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Su eh? Because you could do, because you can. Please
just produce this idea. If he likes it, okay, if
we could raise enough money.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Because I have to respectfully say that to you because
you know what that means. You know, if I tell
you to let's go make the Titanic for five cents,
you're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Would you make a western?
Speaker 4 (51:35):
Would you make either an indie series western or movie
if it was fun? If you could play a fun
character like a sheriff, whatever you want, you know, the cook,
the guy who runs the saloon, whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
But do westerns interest you?
Speaker 6 (51:52):
Western's interesting almost as much as my wife's body. Wow,
they love the whole idea. And I've had horses in
my life, off and on my whole life. I haven't
had a name for six years now.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Maybe a little less.
Speaker 6 (52:09):
Maybe a little less, but but but horses and acting
and swimming are the three things I'm really good at.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Oh yeah, Oh I didn't.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
Know se Purgatory. Are you guys like it?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Oh yeah, I got a great story for you about
the movie.
Speaker 6 (52:23):
Me and Sam Chev. I'm making a great Western director
by uh and uh leitle German director great cat and
so making this western and uh, you know, actors lie,
they say when they get a job.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Can you ride a horse.
Speaker 6 (52:38):
Oh yeah, okay, so Sam and on these big, tall,
badass horses we're sitting there with, and all the other
actors come out and they put them on horses. And now, now, guys,
we're gonna be in a stampede. Is gonna be about
one hundred riders. Here's the deal, though, if you can't ride,
you can't be in a stampede because if you come
awful horse, you might die.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Now, who could ride?
Speaker 8 (52:59):
On?
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Me and Sam raised our hands. It's all like, no,
I'm not doing this.
Speaker 6 (53:04):
So and we had this sampede scene of always Me
and Sam were the only actors in it.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
And so I'm so proud of me.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
He's fearless.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
H Well, you should think about putting something together. Oh
but why do you bring that up?
Speaker 4 (53:21):
Well, because I think what I do with my friends
is we come up with ideas for legends.
Speaker 6 (53:30):
Well, give me, give me a really good idea about
why this character is in that story, and then and
then you can sell me.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
Is there any historical Western theme character anything? Before you
say to me present it? Is there any one thing
you thought about or you don't care?
Speaker 6 (53:49):
From eighteen sixty four to eighteen eighty four is the
era that I would like to portray because it was
before where everything started to go modern, just before we're
horses were still the motor transportation eighty six eighteen eighty four,
(54:11):
that that generation, and uh.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
You just that's your early contingency. It's just the time zone.
Speaker 6 (54:17):
That's what I wanted. Time frame, that's what that's that's
stories I want to tell you.
Speaker 4 (54:21):
I did this TV show years ago with Josh Brolin called,
uh the Young Riders Roll, Yeah, Young Riders. We played
Pony Express Riders with Tony Zurby. But you know, it
was a fun little show we did. When I was
doing that show, you could never get.
Speaker 6 (54:39):
Eric except that's not true. I would never pull rank.
I would just be unavailable.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
Thank yous. But but but uh, you see my logic
for asking that question. Is there anything? Is there? Is
there a Sinatra of the Is there a Billy the
Kid thing? Is there anything you liked in that period?
Or you just like Apple Usa?
Speaker 4 (55:03):
You want to how about a wonderful horse story from
that time?
Speaker 6 (55:07):
It was just after after the Big Goal Wars had
exploded on the West coast, and uh, uh that that
there there was still the possibility of whole, but about
about going west and getting gold. But a lot of
guys didn't go because it was already gotten. So there's
all that going on, and uh, I just.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Want to went out, went out, went out, went out, want.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
To education people on also the state of America at
that time because of the whole, the whole, everything from
the racial divide to the religious divide. There's so much cool, meady,
meaty stuff in there, and we need to tell it,
we need and we need to tell it.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Well, Jared's a writer, too cool.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (55:53):
But just some original thought and if it could be
you know, I don't mean black, but if it could
be some horse motivated poetic something that then reflected these
other things. Okay, I'll get back to you. No, seriously,
there's no other way to say. It'll just yeah, I'm
(56:15):
feeling it in the holy ghost. So once that happens,
it's already done.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
So shocks. What else do? Let's go eat.
Speaker 4 (56:26):
Let's bless you man, Thank you God, bless you.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
May you continue, thank you.
Speaker 7 (56:37):
You need to think well, of course, of course, but I.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
Just want to I want to give it eric a
little wink wink on. So may God continue to bless
you with this point of view. Get it, you said
you liked to this point of right. Thank you, amazing,
Thanks guys, Thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
It's fun that you're.
Speaker 4 (57:00):
Gonna nothing during the richly sets up guilty pleasures. This
sunder food, it's.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
So bad, it's good.
Speaker 4 (57:09):
One bad move, the only sugar
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