February 13, 2025 • 66 mins
Jamie Kennedy joins the pod to talk his string of hits in the 90s, working with serious auteurs and being in box office smashes like SCREAM, THREE KINGS and BOWFINGER while telling us what went wrong with SON OF THE MASK and breaks down what exactly makes a bad movie.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Is your spiritual leader? Oh boy, I don't want to
record this on video. I look terrible.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We're not using the video. I just needed to see
you and I need to know if.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You're still recording it on video in a court of law,
so to speak.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Okay, so we'll only use this in the court of law.
We won't use this in the court of pod.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Wow, the court of pod. Yeah, that's a there's a
podcast that's our new spindd of pod podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
The court of pod.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
People will complain, can't say cord of pod pod. You
can't say pod pod twice in a row. It's it's
it's bad marketing. And to them, I say, kiss my
ass in Macy's window. There's my loving what a great Yeah. Yeah,
because clearly Jamie Kennedy's the kind of stand up who
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every time he gets on stage he says.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Whatever he wants.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Kissed my ass and Maze's window. What a strange day
to day is? Yes, just because you know, we put
out some promos for the Jamie Kennedy episode Yes and uh,
and Jamie told a story about his dad and I
kind of had fun with it, and that's kind of
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going viral in my own mind, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And so it's mind viral easy, you're saying, yeah, in
mind virals.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But that's what really inevitably, that's what goes viral, is
like the virality of the individual mind, you know what
I mean. That's one bad movie, Daddy, that's one bad movie. Great.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm glad we've got to the name of the podcast
that the listeners are hearing right now, just to make
sure that they hed click on the wrong link. Welcome
back to a one bad movie.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Welcome, I'm your I'm your fearless leader Steve.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Baldwin, which makes me the fearful follower of Steven or
fearless who knows the fear is online?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, yeah, we do not fear the comedy bro. Yes,
all right, So hey, just getting just kidd we're just
going today's episode. We got a guest who's seen it all,
as you mentioned, actor comedian in nineties icon Jamie Kennedy.
I'm sure our listener's known from Scream, Malbouy's Most Wanted
(02:28):
and even Bowfinger and a few other big movies that
he talks about and some movies that he was not in,
which we also dive into. I was very surprised by
that tidbit. Didn't know he was almost cast in that one.
But we'll let listeners.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, here's the coolest thing quickly. Yes, remember this interview. Brother,
I had never met Jamie Kennedy, that's right. I mean,
he's an extremely relevant nineties along with myself. That there's
some people from the nineties that were just so well known.
That's kind of the simplest way to put it. And
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particularly if you were in certain titles, certain comedies things
like that. The number of people that comment, you know
about my mcguy for a little coming out from under
the Car and whatever that movie is it half big,
half back with Brewers, right. Yeah, So point being is
Jamie's like one of the kings of that, you know
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what I mean, Like you see Jamie, you're like shin,
you know. But now it's dope because he's parlaying that
into his own podcast and you know, he's doing you know,
a lot of fun to any tours like anybody tours,
and he creates content and he does what he wants
to do, which is what it's hopefully what it's all about. Yes,
that's the.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Goal, right, And his one bad movie is absolutely let's
not say it. Now, I can say what it has
to do, and I can see what that has to
do with it is to do.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That may be too much of a teaser, but go
ahead to try. Yes, and has to do it, and
Sarah Connor's in it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But this movie is too much. Damn it. You can't
see triangle and Sarah Conor no wild Wild that's hysterical.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
If you're tempted to stop listening just to I, well,
this movie is no T too. Let's be clear. And
even though he's sharing the scream, this is Sarah Connor.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
This is the matrix of T two. This is this is,
this is Jamie Kennedy. Dude, this is the experience. It continues,
ladies and gentlemen in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
So should we start the pod?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, let's roll it, dude. Thank you and Jamie, we
love you. Bit keep keep keep keeping it kooky and funny,
Jamie Kennedy. Now on one dad.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Movie, send the static creating nose fadlicks.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
It's so bad, it's good, This sun.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So bad.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
It's one Bad MOVI.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Incredible one BM.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
One that's all you need.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
One bad movie podcast, Bunker one b m which one
Bad Movie Podcast Bunker Now is like an incubator of
like O G creativity. Bro Okay, we're trying to go
back to original creativity. I love it. Okay, we started
a ready man, I canna put my hat on. Hopefully
I don't look to goofy. Jamie Kennedy here on one
(05:55):
Bad Movie ladies and gentlemen. You're following Michael Mads.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
Wow, that's not I'm very honored.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Like he's an old buddy. I called him. We had
this interview dude where he's like, well you Quentin you know,
and Harvey Weinstein like we were just sitting there going yeah,
just it was brilliant. Yeah, and now we're going to
do that today with you because you're brilliant.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Well hopefully thank you, and you're.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Jamie Kennedy kind of way. Now, let me tell you something.
I have to, like just ask a bunch of questions quick,
just because go for it. I love people a little
rascal of sorts. Have you've you've been like a comedy
rascal like your whole career you haven't. You were never
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like an iron man and you never were you know
what I mean?
Speaker 8 (06:46):
What's the biggest couple of movies the people saw the
biggest I mean, that's a that's a stupid random question.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
No, no, but you're you of all people can ask
that because, like you know, I would say we're one percenters,
you know. In the nineties to two thousand, Yeah, I
was in autour Land, the best of the best. So
I was in you know, Romeo and Juliet, Enemy the
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State three Kings, as good as it gets in Boogie Nights,
but couldn't do it. Got the role to have sex
with Heavy Graham and the Limo that hurts my soul
to this day, but it conflicted with as good as
it gets, and I begged to make it work. The
line producer but long story boring. Yeah, I know, Roller
(07:37):
with Burt Reynolds beating my ass. I lived on Highland
Boulevard by Highland, across from the Best Western and I
had gotten Romeo and Juliet came from Scream and then
I was like, I gotta get to do this Boogie
Knights and Nick. My managers just couldn't want the dates.
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But I know, I was like, there was dreams but.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
No, but it's cool that you were in like a
run of amazing films. Amazing I think I got to
be in that Bookie Night, I was amazing.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
So so then those were like my acting acting acting acting,
and then like but I always people told me I
was funny and I did stand up.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
And I just said to my I was like, I
started getting my own movies.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
So the most to answer your question is Sccream right
by now is the biggest I've ever been. Yeah, it's massive, massive,
and a couple of years ago and Malabu too, Scream, Yeah,
twenty twenty two came out and it's it just it
(08:53):
just reinvigorated. It just literally gave it a blood infusion
of like, and it's and I wasn't in the movie,
but I was in the movie because there's like pictures
of me in it and we all did a voiceover.
The directors like call us all up and we did
it is a little easter eggs. So I would say,
now Scream is the biggest thing I've ever been a
part of. But Malibu sneakily comes up there, but it's
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but dude, as good as it gets. I think one
Best Picture was up for it and it made three
hundred million. But it's a huge movie. I had a
couple scenes in it, but again, it doesn't stay within
the lexicon. Scream constantly is just you know what I
mean with memes, dude, because there's so many ghost faced
(09:37):
people wear it, they change the mask, so it's it's
it's kind of a living organism, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, there's so much, there's so much of the content. Yeah,
it's circulating in the system so much. There's so many
you know, Walmart has a lunch box and you're seeing.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
That image, not even that like Timu, you know, the
Chinese like site where you buy stuff. They have so
much knockoff merchandise. People come to these cons they go wild,
they dress up, they cross collateral, they put a one
character from one movie with ghost face.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's a wild So you don't seem to mind to
be part of like a studio franchise, right, You're you're
comfortable with that, Okay, So here's my question. So if
you could tomorrow, if somebody said, oh, we're doing another
Scream franchise, but now you're the head guy because the
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way we wrote it your so we're gonna offer you
three pictures and it's all scream and it's a lot
of money. If you could do that or with the
same amount of money, do your own stuff. What would
you do?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Well, bro, I'm a Gemini, so for me, I would
want to do both. I'm also people, right, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Also just the way you threw that. Well, it is
what it is. I'm a taurust. I know what i'd do.
I can respect, you.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Know, a Marvel movie as much as I can respect
to Sean Baker movie.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
You know, though there's two different that's a great statement, right,
and you know that too. It's like they both have
their their strengths, right right.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
But I'm just trying to see bare bones at your age.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
I won't say fifty three.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
If you could have the be on a series at Netflix,
chilling or just grinding still, if you had the cash,
what would it be?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Wait, so I get to make my movie.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
If you could be under contract to make work for hire, well,
produce your own stuff?
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Enough, I always listen, I don't, I'll try. Is it
not an easy question to answer?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
But that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
But I mean it's I don't. I think it's not
black and white, but here I'll give you the benefits
of both.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Is that well? That answer is that.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
I would always like to create my own stuff, my
own content.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I'd like to create my own vision, and I'd like
to own a piece of it, because you know, that's
the real thing of you owning your own IP.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
But I do know the value of being on the
stranger things.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
And it's also an amazing that's a that's like a
super win because it's it's a huge piece of what
we call studio property, but it's also amazing. So it's like, yes,
if it's the right thing, I would love to do that.
But if it's something that I'm dying to make and
it's my own, I would like.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
To do that.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
I much more would rather do my own I would
like to do my own thing.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's very hard. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
I don't have time to listen.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
There's very few people I would listen to in this business,
from a producer to the directors I worked I mentioned
in the nineties. Those in a couple of other guys
are like the only ones that we could probably listen
to now one thousand percent. Yeah, like Coppola, you know,
Paul Thomas, Anderson Quinton, you know, there's a few a
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Sean Baker, but a lot of people say they're directors.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I just come hard at directors.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
It's like, stoplop.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I'm spoiled, I know, but it's like they overthinking, and
it's like it's like, don't overthink, tell me what you want,
just say it's simple. David ll Russell is the best
director because he was just like, do it like this.
He just talks to your emotions. That's what I love, right,
because we're animals, right, We're not you know, horn robots.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, you know. But what's funny to you is I
was thinking about I was looking at your stuff and
just just what the conversation could be talking with you,
and I realized, you know, at my age now doing
what I want to do, I really don't know what
I want to do. I want to make stuff that
makes me laugh. At my age. I got a granddaughter, like,
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it's going to do stuff if I can, if it
puts food on the table, am I. But I also think,
just because of what you just said, right, I worked
on The Usual Suspects. I worked on Born on the
fourth of July. I worked on it, works on these movies,
Oliver Stone, Brian de Palma, Like, I meet kids today
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and I'm like Brian de Palma and they're like Yeah,
it's a frozen food at the hell Whole Foods over there? Right?
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Is he a TikToker?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Is he a.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
He's I think I see his snaps.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Check this out. Now, I'm wondering, are you and I
just victims of a decade? Are you and I just
like that? No? Seriously, great, seriously, but here we are
these twenty five thirty years later going. It takes saying
to somebody, No, Flintstone's Viva Rock. No, that was John
Goodman Viva Rock Vegas. It was me and the other
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It was the prequel.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Oh and you were burning Wait you were the first
You were in the first one Stones second one?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, John Goodman, Rick Morana's one. Yes, and there was
a second.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
One with me, that's right.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Rosie Yes. Rosie o'donald was in that one, and mine
was Jane Krakowski. Yes, and thirty Rock from the Sun.
What's your name?
Speaker 7 (15:24):
That's Jane Kowski?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No, what's the girl from third Rock from the Sun.
I know my brain's gone to she played Wilma. Yeah,
anywhere is Mike coming? That was a joke, So go ahead.
Where I was he's at all? I was sick that
(15:47):
I think as a result of well, listen, I just
I'm just meeting you, and I think you gotta called
a spade a spade, so to speak. So you worked
within a fifteen year period on unbelieved Evopol projects and
me too, you worked on more cool.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
No, dude, your resume is insane.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
No.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Well, I'm very fortunate and you're very fortunate.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Amen. You're right, But my point is born in the
void July and come on, bru. But the point is
you just listed people you'd be comfortable to work with
now and it's from back then. Yes, but that's because
you're not because you're fed up in old school, because
those people were brilliant and who you are today says
to yourself, I don't get these people today.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Kind of well, I mean I'm starting to get a
little bit. There's two types of people.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
There are people that really like me, and then there
are people who are like starting to Sam, get off
my lawn, guy, do you know what I mean? Mad
at a cloud? And I'm like, I'm fifty three, Like
if I diet, it's fine. So here's what's fascinating though.
What we're talking about is that, dude, it's about being
raised right, and what were you raised on. There was
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no kid movies when I was growing up.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know what I watched.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
I watched Cuckoo's Nest over and over again because it
came on Cable.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
If I start a church in the future, will you
please be an associate pastor.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
I'll speak. I think I'm at the point where I
gotta start ranting Rich yes, hell pastor, kendidate Brimstone.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Look, here's the thing I'm with you like, it's about
I want to make my points clear because I have
the same brain as you. I know where you're at
is that it's about what you're raised on, meaning legacy.
I mean, dude, I was five, I had Jaws came out.
Jaws came out when I was five years old. My
sister took me Halloween came out when I was eight.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
You know what I mean? These are today?
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Put them up against movies today, absolutely right. And it's
like what we're part of and what you and I
are reacting to is legacy. What is your legacy?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Now? I'm just all about what have you done?
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Because we live in a popcorn very disposable and that
philosophy can go across many avenues in terms of like
how we are as a society, from food to sex
to everything is entertainment. It's just quick, it's disposable. It
maybe it could make a big stink for a second,
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but it goes away. But the things we're talking about
have really left an imprint. So I'm about I've been
fortunate to be part of things that have left an imprint.
And even the movies that are being made now, some
of them, the remakes, are connected to things that I.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Was in, right, So I love today. I like there's
a lot of amazing things, But the people don't.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
They needs you, yes, but but they don't understand. Because
here's a term that I hate more than anything.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
I hate this term relevan. Oh you're not relevant or
that's not relevant. What is relevance?
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I guess relevance is like making a movie that comes
out in two thousands of theaters and doing the rounds
with all the talk shows like we normally do, and
being in US weekly and stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
But every day.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
And I love legacy media that is losing its own relevance.
So there could be there's people on parts of the
Internet that are so huge that aren't part of legacy
media that are huge relevant. So to me, I argue
with that word, and I also argue because people think
they're relevant, and they are, but all they're doing is
making noise. It doesn't mean they're good. Have you done
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something that stands the testing, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I was producing a small little thing a couple of
years ago, and I was, this is Jared here, who
kind of tells me what I can and can't do with,
you know, within the digital technical limitations of my hopes.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't because he doesn't let Yeah, and I was
working on.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
This other thing and I'm talking to this guy who
was like the Jared in the equation. He's like, now
you can't do that, Now you can't. I'm talking to
this kind of like he just like he was so
locked into his format. And then he goes like this
Netflix won't take it, and I went, what does that mean?
He went, We're shooting this in a way that's required listen,
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not because Netflix has already bought it, but so that
if they do, it's already done. I'm like, I almost
puked when this guy said it, because he was so
already there into that freaking vapor trail of zombieism.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
It was just weird, but.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Our legacy could be being honest about that. Yeah, And
I was talking to the next generation about like, don't
get caught up in how fast it's going. You know,
I'm meaning young people now, right, I was talking to
and he's a smart kid, but I would like just
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tell a story. Yeah, man, I was there, and you know,
I was in the Triple Canopy foliage of Puquat, Thailand,
and you know there was Steve Burham, the cinematographer for
what's his name I mentioned earlier the movie I got
fired from Sean Penn and Michael, You're not fired on that? Yeah, yeah,
I got fired, but weren't you In the final movie
(21:24):
maybe a couple of shots. John c Riley replaced my role,
I swear.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
I thought.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
But it was perfect. It was perfect because I had
turned down a movie called Last Exit to Brooklyn, and
I went and did that and they fired me and
I got paid anyway, and then came back and still
did Last Exit to Brooklyn with like Sam Rockwell and
a bunch of really cool people. Uh and Stephen Lang.
We got called Steve, but that that's what he means. Yeah,
we're talking. We're talking about the old stuff. And I
(21:53):
think I'm just like, right, now, Jamie, I'm getting ready
to like stick to my guns, and I think the
money's gonna come like small And if I could just
make a couple of movies, writer, producer, director, like. I
loved your movie last year, what's it called the Vampire Thing.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Don't Suck? Which is a weird movie to make in
this town, but I got it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I watched enough of it. It was funny.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
How did you find it?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's I'm down with the algorithm, brokay, I'm one with
the app. That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
And I usually wear the hat, but today the hat
didn't snap, so I didn't wear it.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Don't suck. Yeah, but the whole thing's hilarious, the double entendre,
all of that. But it was nice to see you
after all these years. I don't know what the budget was,
It doesn't matter. You put your name on written directed.
(22:54):
You were saying with that project, this is funny to me.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Oh can I comment on that? It's let me tell
you so long. I'm trying to give you the condensed
version because I know how to.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
You can talk as long as you can stay daddy.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
I love that is that. I was just an amazing comedian.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Rick de Leo wrote it, and he's a Boston head
who's been in La forever and he's he wrote.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
He gives me the script about five years ago.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
In the green room of the This is how we
were talking about how you love things of the Tropic
Cana and the Laugh Factory.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Okay, so look look how this all ties to other.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Right.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
The laugh Factory in the Tropic Canda was the last
room that Rodney Dangerfield was his room.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
So not only do you have a lot of Rodney stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I know, but I watched the old like I go
on and watch him like when he's on Carson.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Yes, I know that favorite. I do too. So then
we have that, then you have all of the energy
of him.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Right.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
So and so Harry, the owner of the Factory Vegas,
would always encourage everyone that comes to the green room
on a Saturday night if you're headlining, is every comic
in town. So it would be thirty people and he'd
have something called Harry Oki everyone sing. Comedian Rick gives
me the script. Great, dude, send it to my email.
You know, I'm three chap leaves deep. I'm did my shows.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
He texts me, did you read it?
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Like eight months later, I'm like, yeah, bro, I read it,
blah blah blah. Just make me an offer, right and
then but I never read it because I don't have
time to read it for free. Like that's the thing,
like so many people like, read this, Okay, can I
have three hours of my life?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So I go.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
He then makes me an offer.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
It's twenty nineteen now, he says that movie I'm making,
I want you in, and he makes me a real
offer with real back end, to the point where I
really didn't have to negotiate good So I give it
to my lawyer.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
I screwed my agents because they stink, and I said,
do do this.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
He did a couple of little finagles and I said
this is fair and he said this is our budget,
which is about seven hundred and fifty thous and he said,
we're gonna shoot in Vegas.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Boom, he starts casting people. Boom, boom, boom.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
All independent. We get a great director, Rajah. You know
my other buddy produced at Jay Davis. A lot of
us long story boring is we're about to go pandemic hits.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
So then it's off for a year and a half.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
And then the first thing that I really the summer
of twenty twenty one, I started clubs started having me,
but I would travel the country but only like do
outside shows and all this stuff. So then Vegas was
given all these different provisions and deals and all this stuff.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
And so we ended up shooting the movie in the
fall of twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
One in Vegas and had the run of Old Aladdin,
which is now the SLS for about a month.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And it was like, you know, we had to do
their COVID, but they were happy to have a production.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
We were happy to have a hotel.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
There was an amazing film cruise out there, and we
just did it for a month from there all the
way up to perumpt We took Nevada by storm, and uh,
it was completely independent, like literally money from people don't suck.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Yeah, it was literally a guy forgive me, Sam, so
forgive me.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's my bad. But but they offered for you to
write and direct it.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
No, they offered me to star in it, and I said,
I will star in it. If it shouldn't be good, don't.
It was literally called two pint minimum, and I'm like,
this is the cheesiest but it's a funny pun, right,
And I'm like, this.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Is so dumb.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
And I read the first page and I'm like, what
what is this? After due, I'm not kidding you. Page
two on, I couldn't put it down. It was because
it's basically the movie's about a guy who just who
was a comedian who never made it, who's a lifer,
who discovers that is Opener is a vampire. Now on paper,
(27:20):
that sounds so dumb, right, but it's not, because there's
levels to it, and there's like it's it's so it
has to do with like what will you do to
make it? What are your marls? Hollywood is one vampiric
you know, if you want to go down the conspiracy realm,
(27:42):
the blood of the youth, feed the revive the old,
like how people suck off us vampirically for our town. Yeah,
I know, don't go any further for god sake. So
it's it's either was a level, but we played it
very real. We played it like Mammot with a crazy premise.
(28:04):
And that's why I said this is going to be good.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And we ran all around. I literally went back and forth.
There was like a thing, there was like a story
on it that had like multiple clips that was some
rite up on it, right, So you have the trailer
and the rest of it. So I watch as much
as I could, But I gotta just say this because
I'm more actor than funny guy. And at the same time,
(28:29):
I live every day for my granddaughter, you know, just
like my granddaughter's like the only person.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Wait, you live for your granddaughter? Your your other daughter's like,
what about me?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
My daughter Eli, who is the mother of this child?
My granddaughter is iris. But but I just say that
because for you, it has to be real. For you,
it has to be that thing that tickles your funny bone.
It has to be the same passion vibration as the
stand up it has. You know, there's a connectivity to
you in your creativity. It has to connect to you.
(29:05):
So I'm the thing, you know what I mean? So now,
like what's real to me is like not grown ups, right?
You know? My granddaughter is like, she's so honest, she says,
this is so I try to I try to keep
my creative brain in a place of that innocence, I mean,
as best I can. And that comes from the old school,
That comes from the marls, that comes how were from
(29:26):
how we were raised, That comes from knowing now Hey man,
this phone's just frying my brain. Let me get off
it from whereas most people can't even figure that out. Dude, sketchy,
it's really weird. As you reach for your.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Phone, I push it away. Okay, you're right, I thought
you checked the message real demon spawn.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Again. It just gets back to I can't wait to
see the film just because it was nice to see
you with your acting. Thank you to being something I
was in biodome. I've done some you know kind of
you know, funky situational stuff that if you if you
understand what's funny and priming.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Now you've done the deepest of the deep and the
wild comedy of the wild. That's an amazing colleidoscope.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, I've I got a weird range and all that stuff,
which is what I really wanted my career. I did
Usual Suspects, and like all these dudes came up to
be like, so, what do you want to do now?
Speaker 7 (30:27):
You want to be like Tom?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I was like, you know, in the psychology of it,
and I was like, yeah, I'd love to be like
a Tom Cruise, but what if he played Barney Rubble
And they were like no, no, no, Tom. Tom could
never play yeah, and then Tom does the freaking war
movie with the freaking cameo the less what's it called cameo?
(30:53):
Mm hmm, I could watch it.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
Over.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's it's it's beyond yeah. So that's the juxtaposition I
refer to. It was cool to watch in this little
movie you put your name to a certain way that
it was what it was, but then in the acting
you were like you're like, you're like whispering and keeping
it subtle, and like, cause you were performing a character
(31:20):
in a storyline that you were trying to make people understand.
If you if you will, if you come for this
full ride, it works. That's what I got out of
just a trailerg but not because because it was it's
cheesy and it's obvious and it's being hokey on purpose,
but the commitment of the performances are kind of fun
(31:43):
to watch. Well, thank you, that's what I did. That's
what that's what it is.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
It's it's you know, a great director told me once
that it's like how to make something real is if
you make a big world, but you play it real,
then it grounds it.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And so that's what I Yeah, Like, that's why you
know you you watch.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
Something and you love it because you're like, they're playing
it real, even if it's a wild premise. So you
know that that to me is everything grounded, even if
it's you know, psychotic world.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
So you did that and it ended up becoming writer director.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
No, I was producer and a star. I did not write,
but I improv some. But the dialog was so direct. No,
and then my other buddy directed it. But here's the
thing is, I wasn't going to do it unless I
literally had every say from like, ha, what Alman is
a craft service? Is?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
I know what keeps people's energy to what to take is?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Do you think maybe because you're a little older, a
little wiser, that you were able to utilize your experience
to make it work for you?
Speaker 6 (32:54):
Yeah, Like I think here's I'll give you a simple answer.
Is that ownership now product is different. There's a great
guy I had in a studio and he told me,
and this was crazy, bro, because you'll get this. He
worked on a movie I did, like one of my
first like independent comedies outside of the studio, and he said,
(33:17):
it's a different business. He can talk like this and
he goes, you're not gonna get rich off it, but
it's a living.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
And what I love that he said it was he
was like, you know, you make two million a year,
You're fine. Yeah, And I was like, that's a great living,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
But we came up in the time where you can
get twenty twenty five if you hit, but people had
their fangs in you, so you're only getting twelve. No,
But what I'm saying is now they would hide the numbers.
I own eleven percent of Malbou's Most Wanted. It made
eighty four million, it costs twelve million to make, and
they're still on the red hold on.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
That's exactly what I was just gonna talk about. They're
in the red bro I've made one hundred movies. Yeah,
so this movie, I was like, I've never made more
than thirty five thousand a year in residuals.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Really, dude, I think I mean more. I've not every year,
but I've had some years I've made some Wow where
it went over that yeah wow.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Listen, by the way, that's Miguelliard and sitting back there
will probably telling me it's wrong. It goes up to like,
I'm sure you had an eighty thousand dollars a year.
Point is now I'm fifty seven year fifty three, and
we're figuring out if we produce stuff that where we
take the ownership pultic sign where we take the ownership
(34:38):
and things are moving around the room. Now, I like
that as we talk about this, but no, I just
mean now the platform has changed. Hollywood's changed totally. That
Jamie Kennedy could do a crowd funding and raise one
hundred grand and make something that makes ten million.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
This movie was exactly right right and we all the
proper steps. This movie is one thousand percent independent. No
pullsh mg, I hate that. Well we have to get
a foreign Uh, it's free sale. That kills creativity. And
my buddy Mike Gadis who lives around the corner, who
directed the movie I did, called Heckler said, run the
(35:19):
numbers on Penguins member March of the Penguins. It made
seventy four million with Morgan Freeman and Penguins. You could
not what's all the model? What's the these guys that
are these business guys?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
I get it. It's a risk, but I'm about low
rant high reward. I'm willing to.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Put my two cents in and make twenty twenty five
thousand whatever for a piece at the back end that
will live in perpetuity if it's done correctly. So this
movie was literally raised people from sandwiches, a guy on
a sandwich shop, a tech guy twenty five here, a
guy won a bunch of gyms fifty thousand. It literally
was coddled together, totally independent like Halloween was. And we
(36:05):
came out in ten theaters. We started in one, we
expanded to ten, it didn't do huge, and then we
went to the platforms. So the bottom line is we
gave it a good college try. It's trickling in platforms.
It's doing okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
It does people. A lot of people bought it on Prime.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
We haven't put it to two B yet, where that's
you know, they give you a number and then it
comes back and you know, you rent it to them
for three years or whatever. So it's the new way, right.
You could say whatever you want about some of these
Apple movies. They're throwing a hundred million at them, and
they don't have to look at the numbers. They might
not be making the money anything like dude, Netflix will
(36:44):
put one hundred million in something and they'll share the numbers,
like do you know how much they spend on something
and if doesn't work, and then squid Games they acquired
for two million and it's twenty times.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
So it's like the fact that they don't want to
share the numbers. There's a little bit of a shell game.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
And I'll say that to them because I like them,
but they're also so particular now, and I said, my
argument is, you have the bandwidth to have anyone on
there that's a brand, so everyone knows you. You're part
of the lexicon. Everyone knows Polly, everyone knows Harlan Williams,
(37:25):
everyone knows me. And I think there's so many brands
that aren't nurtured or names that could be Even if
we all did together did a movie and for a
million bucks, the studios.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Would be like.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
But the audience would be like, holy, you know every
one of us.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
So and Netflix I got annoying because I hate when
these companies come in and they're so innovative and then
they hire the same dinosaur mindes and I'm like, you.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Just it's a vicious cycle.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Yeah, get the guys from Hollywood out, they get up.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
So I'm beyond crazy, right, now like I don't even
care about really entertainment.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Ways, I wish I could say all that well to me,
we're in.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
A crazy world right now, and I'm alm if you
want to go deeper.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I think entertainment is so escapism right now, and we
have a lot of crazy world.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
But that's another podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I think there's been about a five or eight year
period now of some transitioning. Ah, sir, there's some older
folks that were in the in the Hollywood games that
now we're retiring and uh passing on and you know,
just they won't be here anymore. Yes, So I think
(38:40):
once that household are you house cleaning occurs?
Speaker 7 (38:44):
Are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
He cleaning was a code where at when I say
house cleaning when I'm not nt this regime change? Yeah? Okay, God?
Is that better? Do you want some shots too? I
can crack your back. No, I need that. I was
(39:05):
a wrestler. I bet I want to do right now.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
Not right now, but okay, after the third act, so.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
I could be very non invasive, slowly so old man
in the Being Gentle with Jamie Kennedy Weld today we
will be releasing noxious gases from his vetebra sorry, Okay,
I knew what I wanted you at.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Jared, what do you consider your one dad movie?
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Well, the most popular one is Some of the Mask,
and it's not it's a real that's a real sensitive spot.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
But I've dealt with it. It's been nineteen years. I
do talks about it on my pod.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
I'm best friends and really best, really good friends with
the director and what we had and what we did
and then what studio, the Machinese of what happened within
the studio just really took the movie and changed it,
and it like my brain up for a long time.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Do you want to talk about another one or no?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I mean I mean, if your this is what.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
It is, we can go there.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
Why not?
Speaker 7 (40:11):
Right?
Speaker 6 (40:12):
You won?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah? I mean we wanted to be fun. It's called
one bad movie, so that's what this is. If that's
his one bad movie? Is dude, like you know the
movie you made that just was a piece of crap
and you like think it's funny.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
Well how about how about wait, something that I think
is bad? Or we want to keep a light on me.
Think if we want to think of a movie that
is bad, like was bad bad or like what people
said is bad?
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Or they think it's bad, but you think is good.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
What Samuel L. Jackson was in a picture called Snakes
on a Plane.
Speaker 7 (40:50):
Yes, but that movie worked.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
You liked it?
Speaker 7 (40:53):
I liked it.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
What do you consider a bad movie?
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Why do I consider a bad movie? That's a good question. Hmmm,
I think a bad movie.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Is there a movie you've done in your filmography where
you looked at it later and went, I probably would
have done that one? I? Yes, which one that I
wouldn't have done? It wouldn't have done?
Speaker 6 (41:15):
I mean, all right, here's a simple one. I did
a movie called Bermuda Tentacles. Bermuda what Bermuda tentacles?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
So there's.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
It's actually it's kind of like a documentary. Now if
you believe that aliens live in the ocean, that's a
good one. But here's the thing, So I will go
through the story.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
If you like, you can passed the title Bermuda what
TLEs permuta tentacles? Theer muta tent Do you want to
hear mine? Yes, it's called sharks in Venice.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
They're probably made by this same company with it the
producer of Sharknado. I don't know if wait a minute, Venice,
La or Venice Italy, Italy.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
No, they're Denal's bro. This is so funny. Shocks in Venice.
Speaker 7 (42:20):
Wait a minute, where are you shooting?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Starring Stephen Baldwin and Vanessa Johansson. Do you know who
Vanessa Johansson is? No, she's got a sister who's an actress,
Scarlet swal dun dun dun dun dao.
Speaker 7 (42:36):
You got the B side the chromeo is owned.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
And she's fabulous. Yeah, and uh, I think she's much
more interesting than Scarlet.
Speaker 7 (42:49):
Oh my god, dude, stop making enemies right now.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Tell you.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
That's a great title. I'm just gonna start a company
that makes those movies. That's the smart Do you want money?
You and I should just come up with the dumbest
stuff we can come up with. Yah, we'd be rich.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Can I get the answer to what you consider a
bad movie? While he's bringing that up? What we deal
with technical issues?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
What do I.
Speaker 7 (43:17):
Consider a bad movie? I consider it's hard. I'm gonna
really be sweet.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Because I this is a really hard question for me
because and I hate when people who are creatives on
bad movies or who are actors and stuff, Because I
know how much work goes into it. You know what
I mean, you do, I know how much the pain
and you give a year of your life to something
(43:48):
and it just gets destroyed with the stroke of a pen.
Speaker 7 (43:52):
So I guess a bad movie.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
But on the opposite side of that is how Don't
Suck Came?
Speaker 6 (43:59):
Do You?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Was a bad movie? So you fixed it? Well?
Speaker 7 (44:03):
It was a I hated a title, and I thought
it was gonna be a bad movie.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
But if you didn't touch it, it would have been.
I thought it was a great script.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
But I definitely my point, Yeah, no, I thought that's
what we're saying, I elevate is bad movies. I mean, look,
here's the answer to your question. What's a bad movie.
Bad directing, sloppy filmmaking. Really, it's like not good storytelling,
bad stch slot shot selection, sounds, acting, all of it.
(44:36):
I mean, it's really cheesy, idea cheesy. You know that's
a bad But there are movies that are so bad
that they're good, Like you've Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
is a movie that made a mark on me because
I saw it as a young kid, and to this day,
people that know that movie know that movie.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
So that's like a B movie.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
You're never leaving this room.
Speaker 7 (44:56):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (44:57):
So it's like, I'm I'm actually, but dude, I'm also
in the deeper part of my life for check this out.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Bad is good.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Think about it.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
There are people now that I don't want to name names,
but there are people out there doing things that they're
the taste makers think they're delusional, okay, but the people
that are doing them have a fan and they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Let's just take that movie The Room.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
I never saw it, but that became like hipster irony
post irony. All the hip kids were like, shit, it
was cool to on it to the point that they
made it a movie that got Oscar nominations about it.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
So was it a bad movie?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (45:39):
I never saw it, but it was so bad it
attracted all the apparently good people in Hollywood. So it's fascinating, right,
So that I hate I mean, but there are bad movies,
of course, And I've done.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Point about a bad movie. Kennedy.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
Here's what trugg me about this movie. Okay, and I
like the assylum them and they made Shark Nato. So
let me give you my three cents on please go
so And I love everybody involved with this movie. And
I love the director Nick what's up?
Speaker 7 (46:09):
Nick?
Speaker 6 (46:09):
And I love Esther who is the head one of
the head producers deep Beebies, I mean first eights so long,
and I love a Castle.
Speaker 7 (46:16):
Here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (46:18):
Why that movie struck me as bad when I first
saw it is because they chinched on the special effects.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
It pissed me off.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
But here's what it is.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
It's the company that made Shark Nato.
Speaker 6 (46:29):
Shark Nato would be considered a bad movie that became
huge and made a mark on pop pop culture lexicon.
But that movie, to me is bad because they didn't
care enough about the special effects. But some people said
that's part of the cheesiness of it.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
And it had my.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Buddy directed it, other people produced it. It was we
went down the San Pagro for a week. We shot
on his ship. I got to play a great role
and he put me in another dramatic role in Lifetime
called if.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
They tomorrow they're making the sequels, I might do it.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
I might do it because the world, the world's insane
right now and it doesn't matter. And you know what,
AI will.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Re edit it let's talk about bad movies.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
If you look at any superhero movie now, the only
thing that makes them good, well not the only thing.
Speaker 7 (47:17):
That's not right to say.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
There's amazing stories and structures and stuff and characters, but
if they didn't have the effects. I mean, there's a
difference between them and Power Rangers or Power Rangers of
the nineties, some of these movies would look like that.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
So it is about you can.
Speaker 6 (47:34):
Make anything good or an amazing melodrama can be so
over the top bad.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
You know what I'm saying. But I think it's important
that we stay on a theme right now in this conversation,
which is I was like, in the last two years,
bro in running numbers and raising money and trying to
create content. I talked to you, dude. I'm not even
gonna say who it is. It's a big banker, dude.
He owns a big animation company. It's the biggest animation
company outside of the studio system, owned independently. And I
(48:03):
was talking to this guy about making animation films. I said,
why do they have to cost like thirty million dollars minimum?
And he's like, well, it's not really thirty minutes really
like fifteen. He can't do anything less than fifteen. I'm going,
why why is it even fifteen?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Now?
Speaker 2 (48:19):
You can? Right, So I'm talking to this guy, bro,
and then I say to him, well, I want to
kind of see if I can do this, right, I said,
I want to see if I can kind of bring
back a certain animated look. And if I did that,
would it be cheaper? And he went, of course, I
went oh. And then I went, and this is a
(48:42):
dude who only looks at the highest newest, highest, highest,
highest new. Now what's happening?
Speaker 10 (48:48):
Now?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
What the cutting edges in Japan? And you know? And
I said, because here's why, And I went, like a
freaky kind of Jedi mind trick, look what I did.
I went, Now, here's the the trailer for one hundred
and one Dalmatians, the original one hundred and one Dalmatians
and Disney right, and also you see that Matte painting,
(49:10):
you know, And all of a sudden, the music and
hey kid, the characters start talking and here's this dude
who's a pamp, big time digital freaking mac daddy and
he goes just like this and he's a little kid
again watching a thirty five forty year old version of
(49:30):
a trailer and when it was over, dude, I did
it on purpose to say to this guy, fun, right,
and he went, yeah, yeah, those old ones are fun.
I went, the old ones are fun? He went, like
a wise ass. I'm making him. Try to see what
I'm saying, which is, if you never saw animation before
(49:51):
and I showed you Pixar now or that, then you'd
probably like both. So now I want to know, can
I make a seven million dollar, nine million dollar seam
as pic Pixar story today but made in the old
kind of format.
Speaker 7 (50:11):
But there's a way to do it for free. You're
familiar with.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
AI, well, yeah, AI kind of creased me out.
Speaker 7 (50:20):
It's you gotta make friends with it.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
That's why I never smacked my toaster and never bunch
my refrigerator because that will rise up.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
No, it's just a log, dude.
Speaker 7 (50:34):
AI is you know what Sora is? What is Sora
is the death of what?
Speaker 6 (50:41):
Okay, So you can basically go on your phone right
now with chats ETP and do something called prompts okay,
and that means the words that you use.
Speaker 7 (50:50):
So they do it a prompt.
Speaker 6 (50:52):
They did a test and it said, oh beautiful, Japanese
couple on an early spring morning, the cherry blossom are
I'm full Bloom, on their way to a coffee shop,
and within eighty seconds, a one minute scene was created
(51:12):
and it looks like it was shot by Disney, but
it's not animated.
Speaker 7 (51:18):
It's real and it's insane.
Speaker 6 (51:23):
You can talk about a song and within I did
it this week fifty seconds, they'll create a song for
you and it's good.
Speaker 7 (51:32):
So I love what you're saying. And this will go
back to what Justine Bateman saying.
Speaker 6 (51:38):
Who's speaking the Gospel of Humanity, where she says literally
people are going to say this has one organic made
human content because that is out there. So I love
what you're saying, But your said Justine, Justine Bateman is
has not really a matter of what I want it. Yeah,
(51:59):
she's a I want to talk to him because she
has such a great take on AI. But so in
my opinion, I love what you're saying, but it's insane
and if AI is freaking you out, it's gonna get
A is just.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Going to be aren't you religious? Are what aren't you
like religious? I'm born again Christian? Yeah, so you I'm
kind of rebelling right now, you're teaching me a good time.
Speaker 7 (52:21):
Okay, because because AI, they say it's many things.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Well yeah, but but regardless of my biblical worldview. Well,
I have a digital worldview, right, I have a entertainment worldview.
Speaker 7 (52:38):
But somebody says, some people say that AI is summoning
the demon.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Have you ever heard that term?
Speaker 7 (52:43):
Yeah, so I would thought you would be like.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Well, no, because because because I read the end of
the Bible, and we win, So it doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter what happens with your AI doggie, we win. Sorry,
call him like I see him anyway, But like as
a as a born again Christian, I'm not supposed to
be wearing this hat. See if he's cannabis friendly. If
(53:08):
he's cannabis friendly, well it's not actually part of the earth.
Cannabis is the first plant ever to be discovered in
the ever to have a neurological receptor. Your brain has
an electrical receptor. Yeah, John mcgalliol is going to tell
me I'm wrong about that. But but but cannabis is interesting.
(53:30):
And you know, if you don't do what we did
when we were kids, then it can be very health beneficial. Yeah,
I agree, with you do I look fifty seventy you daddy,
don't answer that. Don't that was mean, dude.
Speaker 9 (53:45):
You got amazing hair, bro good skin. You're fine, Okay,
So I want to digress, go back. Your philosophy is
really interesting you. I like your how you wax poet.
It's pretty cool. So you're in kind of a legacy season.
(54:05):
You're thinking about legacy.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
So are you just gonna stay Lucy Goosey out in
Malibu with freaking Woody Harrelson and Chill or like just
whatever comes comes? Or do you think, like, knowing what
you know? Are you going to become like the first
guy to open an AI studio? And you know, I'm
being funny to make to prompt the question, which is,
(54:30):
you know, what do you see in the next fifteen years?
Just because because to be honest with people who don't
know you, who are going to watch this, you're your
bread and butter stand up comedian. You're still touring doing that,
and you could just do that as long as you
wanted and live nicely, hopefully and live nicely. Right, that's
(54:50):
a wonderful option, you know what I mean? So now
I want to know if you got writer's block as
a stand up and I wish that, I know, and
I obviously you're never going to have that cause you're
because you don't give me act you take you pretty far.
(55:11):
But like what, like I said, could you see yourself
like a you know, like a comedy Tyler Perry, You know,
whether you've made so much and done so much you
have your own studio in twenty years because it can happen.
So what I mean is where do you see yourself
but realistic, like if you can continue in this path
of making little indie films that you like and pop
(55:34):
in and out of the A list Hollywood crap when
you wanted, would you stay there or would you rather
you know, kind of lean more towards one or the other.
Speaker 7 (55:44):
Okay, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
There's a lot.
Speaker 7 (55:46):
I'm trying to give you this take your time dolist
answer on that.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
You're in the OBM dungeon, OBM one BM.
Speaker 7 (55:54):
I think the fifteen year thing is too long, Like
I literally think too.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Well.
Speaker 6 (56:00):
I think to two to four years. I think our
world is going to change so much just in the
next two years. It's already happening from when chat GTP
came out and it's on its fifth iteration, and it
literally exponentially goes.
Speaker 7 (56:16):
Do you know like what I mean by that? Like
you ever gamble, you play golf, you ever play golf?
Speaker 2 (56:22):
Speak to your mind. You're in the matrix of movies now, son.
Speaker 6 (56:26):
The speed of what it's happening is like if you
and I were playing golf, and I'd say twenty five
cents a hole.
Speaker 7 (56:32):
Every hole, we double it.
Speaker 6 (56:34):
So then the second hole is fifty cents, the third
hole is a buck, the fourth hole is two bucks.
By the time we get to the antienth hole, we're
at like almost three thousand a hole. And that you're like,
how do we get there from a quarter? That's what
AI is, so in a nutshell, let me answer your question.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Is a multi layer.
Speaker 7 (56:55):
I think that AI is the biggest thing.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
In our world.
Speaker 7 (56:59):
Okay, I think it's and affect our political stuff.
Speaker 6 (57:01):
I think it's going to affect our entertain It's every everything, everything,
so stop it.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
So I I am in a wild time in my life.
Speaker 6 (57:12):
Like I sold my house, I made some money when
the market was up great, I'm renting and I'm deciding
where I'm gonna live.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
I've lived here for thirty five years.
Speaker 7 (57:22):
So this is my home.
Speaker 6 (57:23):
It's like my streets of like from like Lebree at
Los Sienaga Fountain to Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
That's my hood.
Speaker 7 (57:32):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (57:33):
That I love it and it's changed so much, but
I love that. You're it's my stomping ground, you know
what I mean? So I can go to the clubs.
Speaker 7 (57:40):
I can do this. So let me answer many things.
Speaker 6 (57:43):
Live entertainment to me, I think is going to be
bigger than ever because people crave it, and so stand
up comedy I think will survive big. I think music
will stand by big. And also live experiences. I don't
know if you're familiar with the Van Go exhibit on
across from the Cinera Adon. They took an old building
and made an interactive ango exhibit and they charge a
(58:04):
lot of money and tickets and it's amazing. So I
think people want to go out and experiencing because as
movies and entertainment changes. I am looking to buy a
space right now in Hollywood to kind of make my own.
So I want to have like all my memorabilia in it,
a possible place to sleep, and then like also my studio.
(58:26):
So that's in the process of but there's a part
of me that also, I was just in Vegas for
a whole week and Hollywood is moving so much there,
but it's still not Hollywood. But I'm also looking so
right now, I'm in the process of doing what you're saying.
And the last three movies I did were literally people
coming to me and going these type of deals that
(58:47):
I did, and I I shot in Sreeport, Canada and
New Orleans. So yes, yes on what you're saying, Yes,
my own thing. Yes we're being disrupted, and yes if
they as much as I could Apple and the A
List stuff, I will like I had a nice part
and add Astro that was my last big like oh yeah,
and I got cut out but I really it was awesome,
(59:10):
but I got caught out. I had four scenes with
Brad Pitt, so like I literally need the tape, you
know what I mean. But like that was a process
to go through, and it was amazing to be a
piece of you know what I'm saying right because the
experience was still cool, Oh amazing, amazing director of Brad's amazing.
But it's like it did it, you know, I got
cut up. But what I'm saying is those are also
(59:31):
good for us as we're making fifty thousand doing Harpies too.
Speaker 7 (59:37):
But what go ahead? Does that answer your question?
Speaker 2 (59:39):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (59:40):
But I just think the whole world's changing your focuses
on entertainment. I mean, when's the last time you had
your Do you have robot delivery food?
Speaker 7 (59:48):
People?
Speaker 2 (59:48):
Here? Do I have?
Speaker 1 (59:49):
What?
Speaker 7 (59:50):
So?
Speaker 6 (59:50):
Do you know where I live in Hollywood West Hollywood, Date,
there's little robots that deliver food.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
No, where I live, they don't have robots. We have them.
We already have that. So we're kind of into dope
living Upsite York.
Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
Yeah, that's different, but it's good for you to see
them little robots that you should go to Lebrea and Fountain,
order Postmates and see what happens. I need you to
walk the streets. I need you to walk the streets.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Yeah, go for it. I have a question. I'm sorry,
question question I didn't get. Is Mike coming? You're bad? Sore?
Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Your one bad interview? So, so, uh, do you know
Mark Wahlberg? Of course do you know him personally? I
haven't seen him for a while, but I did. I
did one movie with him, almost three So yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Your people should contact his people because I don't know
if you heard he's building a movie.
Speaker 7 (01:00:52):
Yeah, he's all in, but he might like your idea
for there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Yeah, they don't know everything they're going to put in
it yet. They don't know.
Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
I would love to catch up with Mark I was there.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
That's a good if I were somebody like you thinking,
could I build my own comedy space that on, you know,
like me and a homage to me and then be
somebody making ship there.
Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Yeah, it's somebody might love that. I would like fund it. Yeah,
I I should talk to him. Okay, you're back.
Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
Said're about your your John Hughes phase.
Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Right, and you're a break from Jesus what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
He said that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I can't wait to have you on my podcast. Can
I love you right now? I love you right now? Yes,
because here's what you need to know. Jesus created a Yeah,
pretty true about that. You want me to start preaching
because you were woven and spun. Don't get me. See
(01:02:00):
the Bible says my people perish for a lack of knowledge,
and I'm done soon anyway. Uh now at fifty seven,
on the precipice of perhaps biodome two, I don't know
what's happening with it? I know Paul's kind of in
(01:02:22):
the club of Hollywood. I'm not you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
Paul gets to have those That movie low key could
be about the firmament, if you believe.
Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Explain Jamie Kennedy.
Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
There's a bubble, Oh, the firm firmament flatter Oh as
a whole other.
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Rabbit hole called Brackervoy. Dude, write it.
Speaker 7 (01:02:47):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Write it.
Speaker 7 (01:02:48):
But that movie has deeper messages.
Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
And I think if listen, if you want my honest opinion,
if we do Biodome two and like my ship goes
off the edge of the earth, I'm perfectly happy. Get it. Okay,
are we done? I think we're think you wrap it up?
Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
You just wrap it up?
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Now what do I do to wrap it up? Dude?
Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I think you just did it?
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I did you know? Did I did? I just finish
without knowing? Yes? Brother, thank you for coming.
Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
Dude, Thank you as an honor brother.
Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
You're super weird and funny.
Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
Really is it weird? I thought we were bonding, but like, I.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Think you want to stay with me on the weird
frequency because that is bonding. Okay, good, Sorry, I'm with you.
I mean, how many guys you know they have like
a camo kimono? That's cool? What's up? So it takes
decades of being the youngest Baldwin to get to this point.
Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
That's cool. It is an interesting camo.
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
It's a camo kimono. Bro, I only look stupid. Welcome
to one bad movie?
Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Are we done so about kicking it? Old school?
Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Now we're done? Would you come back to talk about yes?
Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
Do you like that movie? You don't like that?
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Hey? When can I do your show?
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
And it got me through a very crazy ecstasy role?
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Would I couldn't come down? So I was I just
kept playing and playing.
Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Wow, kicking it?
Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
I love?
Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Did it? Make it? I'm gonna do this podcast, Jamie. Seriously,
everyone focused, now focus. I'm going to tell people where
they can find me. I just want you to find you.
Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
They can find me on Jamie Kennedy dot com Jamie
wat Kennedy dot com.
Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
And that's where all my stuff is.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Hey, can you explain what a podcast is? Because here's
the thing. First, we at the cloud. Yea, he knows
what that is. Now we have the algorithm. Nobody knows
what that is. Now we have a podcast thing that
everyone's doing. Can you explain what a podcast is.
Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
I think it's a way to express yourself and giving
your ideas about topics and what is your conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
What's the name of your podcast?
Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
Mine is called Hate to Break It to You, where
we I have solo rants or I do people and
we go down things.
Speaker 7 (01:05:13):
And kind of go through things that we thought work.
Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
We were Yeah, we had moments of hating to Break
it to you, But like you know, you have a
lot of Hollywood stuff. I could just hit five ideas
with you and it could be a two hour podcast
and you wouldn't even know it.
Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
We have to be Can I be weird? They have
to be blunt?
Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (01:05:31):
Like you don't want me to No, That's what I
love about you. You're blunt.
Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
No, I can't be blown. I could smoke a blunt.
I can't be blunt. Different.
Speaker 6 (01:05:41):
I think you can if you're not worried about You're
not worried about being canceled, right, because there's no canceling.
Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
We're all gonna be canceled. Dude.
Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
You can't be canceled in the season of AI, right,
because like, whatever I do a, I'll fix it exactly.
So canceled is now canceled because of AI? How choil
is that that could be?
Speaker 7 (01:06:12):
You look worried right now, Well, I was like I
was giving you a moment there. I was like, you're
taking that in. Thank you for having me, buddy. I
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I think you get this podcast. One bad movie is
the like the idea and what else have we talked about?
Speaker 10 (01:06:29):
We merely talking about movie.
Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Rexam Guilty, badnessness, unders so bad, It's good.
Speaker 7 (01:06:43):
One bad Deal
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Is your spiritual leader? Oh boy, I don't want to
record this on video. I look terrible.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We're not using the video. I just needed to see
you and I need to know if.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You're still recording it on video in a court of law,
so to speak.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Okay, so we'll only use this in the court of law.
We won't use this in the court of pod.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Wow, the court of pod. Yeah, that's a there's a
podcast that's our new spindd of pod podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
The court of pod.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
People will complain, can't say cord of pod pod. You
can't say pod pod twice in a row. It's it's
it's bad marketing. And to them, I say, kiss my
ass in Macy's window. There's my loving what a great Yeah. Yeah,
because clearly Jamie Kennedy's the kind of stand up who
(00:58):
every time he gets on stage he says.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Whatever he wants.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Kissed my ass and Maze's window. What a strange day
to day is? Yes, just because you know, we put
out some promos for the Jamie Kennedy episode Yes and uh,
and Jamie told a story about his dad and I
kind of had fun with it, and that's kind of
(01:25):
going viral in my own mind, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And so it's mind viral easy, you're saying, yeah, in
mind virals.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But that's what really inevitably, that's what goes viral, is
like the virality of the individual mind, you know what
I mean. That's one bad movie, Daddy, that's one bad movie. Great.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm glad we've got to the name of the podcast
that the listeners are hearing right now, just to make
sure that they hed click on the wrong link. Welcome
back to a one bad movie.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Welcome, I'm your I'm your fearless leader Steve.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Baldwin, which makes me the fearful follower of Steven or
fearless who knows the fear is online?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, yeah, we do not fear the comedy bro. Yes,
all right, So hey, just getting just kidd we're just
going today's episode. We got a guest who's seen it all,
as you mentioned, actor comedian in nineties icon Jamie Kennedy.
I'm sure our listener's known from Scream, Malbouy's Most Wanted
(02:28):
and even Bowfinger and a few other big movies that
he talks about and some movies that he was not in,
which we also dive into. I was very surprised by
that tidbit. Didn't know he was almost cast in that one.
But we'll let listeners.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, here's the coolest thing quickly. Yes, remember this interview. Brother,
I had never met Jamie Kennedy, that's right. I mean,
he's an extremely relevant nineties along with myself. That there's
some people from the nineties that were just so well known.
That's kind of the simplest way to put it. And
(03:03):
particularly if you were in certain titles, certain comedies things
like that. The number of people that comment, you know
about my mcguy for a little coming out from under
the Car and whatever that movie is it half big,
half back with Brewers, right. Yeah, So point being is
Jamie's like one of the kings of that, you know
(03:24):
what I mean, Like you see Jamie, you're like shin,
you know. But now it's dope because he's parlaying that
into his own podcast and you know, he's doing you know,
a lot of fun to any tours like anybody tours,
and he creates content and he does what he wants
to do, which is what it's hopefully what it's all about. Yes,
that's the.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Goal, right, And his one bad movie is absolutely let's
not say it. Now, I can say what it has
to do, and I can see what that has to
do with it is to do.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That may be too much of a teaser, but go
ahead to try. Yes, and has to do it, and
Sarah Connor's in it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But this movie is too much. Damn it. You can't
see triangle and Sarah Conor no wild Wild that's hysterical.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
If you're tempted to stop listening just to I, well,
this movie is no T too. Let's be clear. And
even though he's sharing the scream, this is Sarah Connor.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
This is the matrix of T two. This is this is,
this is Jamie Kennedy. Dude, this is the experience. It continues,
ladies and gentlemen in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
So should we start the pod?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, let's roll it, dude. Thank you and Jamie, we
love you. Bit keep keep keep keeping it kooky and funny,
Jamie Kennedy. Now on one dad.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Movie, send the static creating nose fadlicks.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
It's so bad, it's good, This sun.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So bad.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
It's one Bad MOVI.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Incredible one BM.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
One that's all you need.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
One bad movie podcast, Bunker one b m which one
Bad Movie Podcast Bunker Now is like an incubator of
like O G creativity. Bro Okay, we're trying to go
back to original creativity. I love it. Okay, we started
a ready man, I canna put my hat on. Hopefully
I don't look to goofy. Jamie Kennedy here on one
(05:55):
Bad Movie ladies and gentlemen. You're following Michael Mads.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
Wow, that's not I'm very honored.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Like he's an old buddy. I called him. We had
this interview dude where he's like, well you Quentin you know,
and Harvey Weinstein like we were just sitting there going yeah,
just it was brilliant. Yeah, and now we're going to
do that today with you because you're brilliant.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Well hopefully thank you, and you're.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Jamie Kennedy kind of way. Now, let me tell you something.
I have to, like just ask a bunch of questions quick,
just because go for it. I love people a little
rascal of sorts. Have you've you've been like a comedy
rascal like your whole career you haven't. You were never
(06:42):
like an iron man and you never were you know
what I mean?
Speaker 8 (06:46):
What's the biggest couple of movies the people saw the
biggest I mean, that's a that's a stupid random question.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
No, no, but you're you of all people can ask
that because, like you know, I would say we're one percenters,
you know. In the nineties to two thousand, Yeah, I
was in autour Land, the best of the best. So
I was in you know, Romeo and Juliet, Enemy the
(07:15):
State three Kings, as good as it gets in Boogie Nights,
but couldn't do it. Got the role to have sex
with Heavy Graham and the Limo that hurts my soul
to this day, but it conflicted with as good as
it gets, and I begged to make it work. The
line producer but long story boring. Yeah, I know, Roller
(07:37):
with Burt Reynolds beating my ass. I lived on Highland
Boulevard by Highland, across from the Best Western and I
had gotten Romeo and Juliet came from Scream and then
I was like, I gotta get to do this Boogie
Knights and Nick. My managers just couldn't want the dates.
(07:59):
But I know, I was like, there was dreams but.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
No, but it's cool that you were in like a
run of amazing films. Amazing I think I got to
be in that Bookie Night, I was amazing.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
So so then those were like my acting acting acting acting,
and then like but I always people told me I
was funny and I did stand up.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
And I just said to my I was like, I
started getting my own movies.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
So the most to answer your question is Sccream right
by now is the biggest I've ever been. Yeah, it's massive, massive,
and a couple of years ago and Malabu too, Scream, Yeah,
twenty twenty two came out and it's it just it
(08:53):
just reinvigorated. It just literally gave it a blood infusion
of like, and it's and I wasn't in the movie,
but I was in the movie because there's like pictures
of me in it and we all did a voiceover.
The directors like call us all up and we did
it is a little easter eggs. So I would say,
now Scream is the biggest thing I've ever been a
part of. But Malibu sneakily comes up there, but it's
(09:15):
but dude, as good as it gets. I think one
Best Picture was up for it and it made three
hundred million. But it's a huge movie. I had a
couple scenes in it, but again, it doesn't stay within
the lexicon. Scream constantly is just you know what I
mean with memes, dude, because there's so many ghost faced
(09:37):
people wear it, they change the mask, so it's it's
it's kind of a living organism, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, there's so much, there's so much of the content. Yeah,
it's circulating in the system so much. There's so many
you know, Walmart has a lunch box and you're seeing.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
That image, not even that like Timu, you know, the
Chinese like site where you buy stuff. They have so
much knockoff merchandise. People come to these cons they go wild,
they dress up, they cross collateral, they put a one
character from one movie with ghost face.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's a wild So you don't seem to mind to
be part of like a studio franchise, right, You're you're
comfortable with that, Okay, So here's my question. So if
you could tomorrow, if somebody said, oh, we're doing another
Scream franchise, but now you're the head guy because the
(10:31):
way we wrote it your so we're gonna offer you
three pictures and it's all scream and it's a lot
of money. If you could do that or with the
same amount of money, do your own stuff. What would
you do?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Well, bro, I'm a Gemini, so for me, I would
want to do both. I'm also people, right, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Also just the way you threw that. Well, it is
what it is. I'm a taurust. I know what i'd do.
I can respect, you.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Know, a Marvel movie as much as I can respect
to Sean Baker movie.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
You know, though there's two different that's a great statement, right,
and you know that too. It's like they both have
their their strengths, right right.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
But I'm just trying to see bare bones at your age.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
I won't say fifty three.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
If you could have the be on a series at Netflix,
chilling or just grinding still, if you had the cash,
what would it be?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Wait, so I get to make my movie.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
If you could be under contract to make work for hire, well,
produce your own stuff?
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Enough, I always listen, I don't, I'll try. Is it
not an easy question to answer?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
But that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
But I mean it's I don't. I think it's not
black and white, but here I'll give you the benefits
of both.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Is that well? That answer is that.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
I would always like to create my own stuff, my
own content.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I'd like to create my own vision, and I'd like
to own a piece of it, because you know, that's
the real thing of you owning your own IP.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
But I do know the value of being on the
stranger things.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
And it's also an amazing that's a that's like a
super win because it's it's a huge piece of what
we call studio property, but it's also amazing. So it's like, yes,
if it's the right thing, I would love to do that.
But if it's something that I'm dying to make and
it's my own, I would like.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
To do that.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
I much more would rather do my own I would
like to do my own thing.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's very hard. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
I don't have time to listen.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
There's very few people I would listen to in this business,
from a producer to the directors I worked I mentioned
in the nineties. Those in a couple of other guys
are like the only ones that we could probably listen
to now one thousand percent. Yeah, like Coppola, you know,
Paul Thomas, Anderson Quinton, you know, there's a few a
(13:05):
Sean Baker, but a lot of people say they're directors.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I just come hard at directors.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
It's like, stoplop.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I'm spoiled, I know, but it's like they overthinking, and
it's like it's like, don't overthink, tell me what you want,
just say it's simple. David ll Russell is the best
director because he was just like, do it like this.
He just talks to your emotions. That's what I love, right,
because we're animals, right, We're not you know, horn robots.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, you know. But what's funny to you is I
was thinking about I was looking at your stuff and
just just what the conversation could be talking with you,
and I realized, you know, at my age now doing
what I want to do, I really don't know what
I want to do. I want to make stuff that
makes me laugh. At my age. I got a granddaughter, like,
(13:59):
it's going to do stuff if I can, if it
puts food on the table, am I. But I also think,
just because of what you just said, right, I worked
on The Usual Suspects. I worked on Born on the
fourth of July. I worked on it, works on these movies,
Oliver Stone, Brian de Palma, Like, I meet kids today
(14:21):
and I'm like Brian de Palma and they're like Yeah,
it's a frozen food at the hell Whole Foods over there? Right?
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Is he a TikToker?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Is he a.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
He's I think I see his snaps.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Check this out. Now, I'm wondering, are you and I
just victims of a decade? Are you and I just
like that? No? Seriously, great, seriously, but here we are
these twenty five thirty years later going. It takes saying
to somebody, No, Flintstone's Viva Rock. No, that was John
Goodman Viva Rock Vegas. It was me and the other
(15:01):
It was the prequel.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Oh and you were burning Wait you were the first
You were in the first one Stones second one?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, John Goodman, Rick Morana's one. Yes, and there was
a second.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
One with me, that's right.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Rosie Yes. Rosie o'donald was in that one, and mine
was Jane Krakowski. Yes, and thirty Rock from the Sun.
What's your name?
Speaker 7 (15:24):
That's Jane Kowski?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No, what's the girl from third Rock from the Sun.
I know my brain's gone to she played Wilma. Yeah,
anywhere is Mike coming? That was a joke, So go ahead.
Where I was he's at all? I was sick that
(15:47):
I think as a result of well, listen, I just
I'm just meeting you, and I think you gotta called
a spade a spade, so to speak. So you worked
within a fifteen year period on unbelieved Evopol projects and
me too, you worked on more cool.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
No, dude, your resume is insane.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
No.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Well, I'm very fortunate and you're very fortunate.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Amen. You're right, But my point is born in the
void July and come on, bru. But the point is
you just listed people you'd be comfortable to work with
now and it's from back then. Yes, but that's because
you're not because you're fed up in old school, because
those people were brilliant and who you are today says
to yourself, I don't get these people today.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Kind of well, I mean I'm starting to get a
little bit. There's two types of people.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
There are people that really like me, and then there
are people who are like starting to Sam, get off
my lawn, guy, do you know what I mean? Mad
at a cloud? And I'm like, I'm fifty three, Like
if I diet, it's fine. So here's what's fascinating though.
What we're talking about is that, dude, it's about being
raised right, and what were you raised on. There was
(17:01):
no kid movies when I was growing up.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know what I watched.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
I watched Cuckoo's Nest over and over again because it
came on Cable.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
If I start a church in the future, will you
please be an associate pastor.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
I'll speak. I think I'm at the point where I
gotta start ranting Rich yes, hell pastor, kendidate Brimstone.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Look, here's the thing I'm with you like, it's about
I want to make my points clear because I have
the same brain as you. I know where you're at
is that it's about what you're raised on, meaning legacy.
I mean, dude, I was five, I had Jaws came out.
Jaws came out when I was five years old. My
sister took me Halloween came out when I was eight.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
You know what I mean? These are today?
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Put them up against movies today, absolutely right. And it's
like what we're part of and what you and I
are reacting to is legacy. What is your legacy?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Now? I'm just all about what have you done?
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Because we live in a popcorn very disposable and that
philosophy can go across many avenues in terms of like
how we are as a society, from food to sex
to everything is entertainment. It's just quick, it's disposable. It
maybe it could make a big stink for a second,
(18:24):
but it goes away. But the things we're talking about
have really left an imprint. So I'm about I've been
fortunate to be part of things that have left an imprint.
And even the movies that are being made now, some
of them, the remakes, are connected to things that I.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Was in, right, So I love today. I like there's
a lot of amazing things, But the people don't.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
They needs you, yes, but but they don't understand. Because
here's a term that I hate more than anything.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
I hate this term relevan. Oh you're not relevant or
that's not relevant. What is relevance?
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I guess relevance is like making a movie that comes
out in two thousands of theaters and doing the rounds
with all the talk shows like we normally do, and
being in US weekly and stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
But every day.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
And I love legacy media that is losing its own relevance.
So there could be there's people on parts of the
Internet that are so huge that aren't part of legacy
media that are huge relevant. So to me, I argue
with that word, and I also argue because people think
they're relevant, and they are, but all they're doing is
making noise. It doesn't mean they're good. Have you done
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something that stands the testing, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I was producing a small little thing a couple of
years ago, and I was, this is Jared here, who
kind of tells me what I can and can't do with,
you know, within the digital technical limitations of my hopes.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't because he doesn't let Yeah, and I was
working on.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
This other thing and I'm talking to this guy who
was like the Jared in the equation. He's like, now
you can't do that, Now you can't. I'm talking to
this kind of like he just like he was so
locked into his format. And then he goes like this
Netflix won't take it, and I went, what does that mean?
He went, We're shooting this in a way that's required listen,
(20:22):
not because Netflix has already bought it, but so that
if they do, it's already done. I'm like, I almost
puked when this guy said it, because he was so
already there into that freaking vapor trail of zombieism.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
It was just weird, but.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Our legacy could be being honest about that. Yeah, And
I was talking to the next generation about like, don't
get caught up in how fast it's going. You know,
I'm meaning young people now, right, I was talking to
and he's a smart kid, but I would like just
(21:03):
tell a story. Yeah, man, I was there, and you know,
I was in the Triple Canopy foliage of Puquat, Thailand,
and you know there was Steve Burham, the cinematographer for
what's his name I mentioned earlier the movie I got
fired from Sean Penn and Michael, You're not fired on that? Yeah, yeah,
I got fired, but weren't you In the final movie
(21:24):
maybe a couple of shots. John c Riley replaced my role,
I swear.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
I thought.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
But it was perfect. It was perfect because I had
turned down a movie called Last Exit to Brooklyn, and
I went and did that and they fired me and
I got paid anyway, and then came back and still
did Last Exit to Brooklyn with like Sam Rockwell and
a bunch of really cool people. Uh and Stephen Lang.
We got called Steve, but that that's what he means. Yeah,
we're talking. We're talking about the old stuff. And I
(21:53):
think I'm just like, right, now, Jamie, I'm getting ready
to like stick to my guns, and I think the
money's gonna come like small And if I could just
make a couple of movies, writer, producer, director, like. I
loved your movie last year, what's it called the Vampire Thing.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Don't Suck? Which is a weird movie to make in
this town, but I got it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I watched enough of it. It was funny.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
How did you find it?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's I'm down with the algorithm, brokay, I'm one with
the app. That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
And I usually wear the hat, but today the hat
didn't snap, so I didn't wear it.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Don't suck. Yeah, but the whole thing's hilarious, the double entendre,
all of that. But it was nice to see you
after all these years. I don't know what the budget was,
It doesn't matter. You put your name on written directed.
(22:54):
You were saying with that project, this is funny to me.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Oh can I comment on that? It's let me tell
you so long. I'm trying to give you the condensed
version because I know how to.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
You can talk as long as you can stay daddy.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
I love that is that. I was just an amazing comedian.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Rick de Leo wrote it, and he's a Boston head
who's been in La forever and he's he wrote.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
He gives me the script about five years ago.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
In the green room of the This is how we
were talking about how you love things of the Tropic
Cana and the Laugh Factory.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Okay, so look look how this all ties to other.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Right.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
The laugh Factory in the Tropic Canda was the last
room that Rodney Dangerfield was his room.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
So not only do you have a lot of Rodney stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I know, but I watched the old like I go
on and watch him like when he's on Carson.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Yes, I know that favorite. I do too. So then
we have that, then you have all of the energy
of him.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Right.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
So and so Harry, the owner of the Factory Vegas,
would always encourage everyone that comes to the green room
on a Saturday night if you're headlining, is every comic
in town. So it would be thirty people and he'd
have something called Harry Oki everyone sing. Comedian Rick gives
me the script. Great, dude, send it to my email.
You know, I'm three chap leaves deep. I'm did my shows.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
He texts me, did you read it?
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Like eight months later, I'm like, yeah, bro, I read it,
blah blah blah. Just make me an offer, right and
then but I never read it because I don't have
time to read it for free. Like that's the thing,
like so many people like, read this, Okay, can I
have three hours of my life?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So I go.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
He then makes me an offer.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
It's twenty nineteen now, he says that movie I'm making,
I want you in, and he makes me a real
offer with real back end, to the point where I
really didn't have to negotiate good So I give it
to my lawyer.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
I screwed my agents because they stink, and I said,
do do this.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
He did a couple of little finagles and I said
this is fair and he said this is our budget,
which is about seven hundred and fifty thous and he said,
we're gonna shoot in Vegas.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
Boom, he starts casting people. Boom, boom, boom.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
All independent. We get a great director, Rajah. You know
my other buddy produced at Jay Davis. A lot of
us long story boring is we're about to go pandemic hits.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
So then it's off for a year and a half.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
And then the first thing that I really the summer
of twenty twenty one, I started clubs started having me,
but I would travel the country but only like do
outside shows and all this stuff. So then Vegas was
given all these different provisions and deals and all this stuff.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
And so we ended up shooting the movie in the
fall of twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
One in Vegas and had the run of Old Aladdin,
which is now the SLS for about a month.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And it was like, you know, we had to do
their COVID, but they were happy to have a production.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
We were happy to have a hotel.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
There was an amazing film cruise out there, and we
just did it for a month from there all the
way up to perumpt We took Nevada by storm, and uh,
it was completely independent, like literally money from people don't suck.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Yeah, it was literally a guy forgive me, Sam, so
forgive me.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's my bad. But but they offered for you to
write and direct it.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
No, they offered me to star in it, and I said,
I will star in it. If it shouldn't be good, don't.
It was literally called two pint minimum, and I'm like,
this is the cheesiest but it's a funny pun, right,
And I'm like, this.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Is so dumb.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
And I read the first page and I'm like, what
what is this? After due, I'm not kidding you. Page
two on, I couldn't put it down. It was because
it's basically the movie's about a guy who just who
was a comedian who never made it, who's a lifer,
who discovers that is Opener is a vampire. Now on paper,
(27:20):
that sounds so dumb, right, but it's not, because there's
levels to it, and there's like it's it's so it
has to do with like what will you do to
make it? What are your marls? Hollywood is one vampiric
you know, if you want to go down the conspiracy realm,
(27:42):
the blood of the youth, feed the revive the old,
like how people suck off us vampirically for our town. Yeah,
I know, don't go any further for god sake. So
it's it's either was a level, but we played it
very real. We played it like Mammot with a crazy premise.
(28:04):
And that's why I said this is going to be good.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And we ran all around. I literally went back and forth.
There was like a thing, there was like a story
on it that had like multiple clips that was some
rite up on it, right, So you have the trailer
and the rest of it. So I watch as much
as I could, But I gotta just say this because
I'm more actor than funny guy. And at the same time,
(28:29):
I live every day for my granddaughter, you know, just
like my granddaughter's like the only person.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Wait, you live for your granddaughter? Your your other daughter's like,
what about me?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
My daughter Eli, who is the mother of this child?
My granddaughter is iris. But but I just say that
because for you, it has to be real. For you,
it has to be that thing that tickles your funny bone.
It has to be the same passion vibration as the
stand up it has. You know, there's a connectivity to
you in your creativity. It has to connect to you.
(29:05):
So I'm the thing, you know what I mean? So now,
like what's real to me is like not grown ups, right?
You know? My granddaughter is like, she's so honest, she says,
this is so I try to I try to keep
my creative brain in a place of that innocence, I mean,
as best I can. And that comes from the old school,
That comes from the marls, that comes how were from
(29:26):
how we were raised, That comes from knowing now Hey man,
this phone's just frying my brain. Let me get off
it from whereas most people can't even figure that out. Dude, sketchy,
it's really weird. As you reach for your.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Phone, I push it away. Okay, you're right, I thought
you checked the message real demon spawn.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Again. It just gets back to I can't wait to
see the film just because it was nice to see
you with your acting. Thank you to being something I
was in biodome. I've done some you know kind of
you know, funky situational stuff that if you if you
understand what's funny and priming.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Now you've done the deepest of the deep and the
wild comedy of the wild. That's an amazing colleidoscope.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, I've I got a weird range and all that stuff,
which is what I really wanted my career. I did
Usual Suspects, and like all these dudes came up to
be like, so, what do you want to do now?
Speaker 7 (30:27):
You want to be like Tom?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I was like, you know, in the psychology of it,
and I was like, yeah, I'd love to be like
a Tom Cruise, but what if he played Barney Rubble
And they were like no, no, no, Tom. Tom could
never play yeah, and then Tom does the freaking war
movie with the freaking cameo the less what's it called cameo?
(30:53):
Mm hmm, I could watch it.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
Over.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's it's it's beyond yeah. So that's the juxtaposition I
refer to. It was cool to watch in this little
movie you put your name to a certain way that
it was what it was, but then in the acting
you were like you're like, you're like whispering and keeping
it subtle, and like, cause you were performing a character
(31:20):
in a storyline that you were trying to make people understand.
If you if you will, if you come for this
full ride, it works. That's what I got out of
just a trailerg but not because because it was it's
cheesy and it's obvious and it's being hokey on purpose,
but the commitment of the performances are kind of fun
(31:43):
to watch. Well, thank you, that's what I did. That's
what that's what it is.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
It's it's you know, a great director told me once
that it's like how to make something real is if
you make a big world, but you play it real,
then it grounds it.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And so that's what I Yeah, Like, that's why you
know you you watch.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
Something and you love it because you're like, they're playing
it real, even if it's a wild premise. So you
know that that to me is everything grounded, even if
it's you know, psychotic world.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
So you did that and it ended up becoming writer director.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
No, I was producer and a star. I did not write,
but I improv some. But the dialog was so direct. No,
and then my other buddy directed it. But here's the
thing is, I wasn't going to do it unless I
literally had every say from like, ha, what Alman is
a craft service? Is?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
I know what keeps people's energy to what to take is?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Do you think maybe because you're a little older, a
little wiser, that you were able to utilize your experience
to make it work for you?
Speaker 6 (32:54):
Yeah, Like I think here's I'll give you a simple answer.
Is that ownership now product is different. There's a great
guy I had in a studio and he told me,
and this was crazy, bro, because you'll get this. He
worked on a movie I did, like one of my
first like independent comedies outside of the studio, and he said,
(33:17):
it's a different business. He can talk like this and
he goes, you're not gonna get rich off it, but
it's a living.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
And what I love that he said it was he
was like, you know, you make two million a year,
You're fine. Yeah, And I was like, that's a great living,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
But we came up in the time where you can
get twenty twenty five if you hit, but people had
their fangs in you, so you're only getting twelve. No,
But what I'm saying is now they would hide the numbers.
I own eleven percent of Malbou's Most Wanted. It made
eighty four million, it costs twelve million to make, and
they're still on the red hold on.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
That's exactly what I was just gonna talk about. They're
in the red bro I've made one hundred movies. Yeah,
so this movie, I was like, I've never made more
than thirty five thousand a year in residuals.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Really, dude, I think I mean more. I've not every year,
but I've had some years I've made some Wow where
it went over that yeah wow.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Listen, by the way, that's Miguelliard and sitting back there
will probably telling me it's wrong. It goes up to like,
I'm sure you had an eighty thousand dollars a year.
Point is now I'm fifty seven year fifty three, and
we're figuring out if we produce stuff that where we
take the ownership pultic sign where we take the ownership
(34:38):
and things are moving around the room. Now, I like
that as we talk about this, but no, I just
mean now the platform has changed. Hollywood's changed totally. That
Jamie Kennedy could do a crowd funding and raise one
hundred grand and make something that makes ten million.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
This movie was exactly right right and we all the
proper steps. This movie is one thousand percent independent. No
pullsh mg, I hate that. Well we have to get
a foreign Uh, it's free sale. That kills creativity. And
my buddy Mike Gadis who lives around the corner, who
directed the movie I did, called Heckler said, run the
(35:19):
numbers on Penguins member March of the Penguins. It made
seventy four million with Morgan Freeman and Penguins. You could
not what's all the model? What's the these guys that
are these business guys?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
I get it. It's a risk, but I'm about low
rant high reward. I'm willing to.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Put my two cents in and make twenty twenty five
thousand whatever for a piece at the back end that
will live in perpetuity if it's done correctly. So this
movie was literally raised people from sandwiches, a guy on
a sandwich shop, a tech guy twenty five here, a
guy won a bunch of gyms fifty thousand. It literally
was coddled together, totally independent like Halloween was. And we
(36:05):
came out in ten theaters. We started in one, we
expanded to ten, it didn't do huge, and then we
went to the platforms. So the bottom line is we
gave it a good college try. It's trickling in platforms.
It's doing okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
It does people. A lot of people bought it on Prime.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
We haven't put it to two B yet, where that's
you know, they give you a number and then it
comes back and you know, you rent it to them
for three years or whatever. So it's the new way, right.
You could say whatever you want about some of these
Apple movies. They're throwing a hundred million at them, and
they don't have to look at the numbers. They might
not be making the money anything like dude, Netflix will
(36:44):
put one hundred million in something and they'll share the numbers,
like do you know how much they spend on something
and if doesn't work, and then squid Games they acquired
for two million and it's twenty times.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
So it's like the fact that they don't want to
share the numbers. There's a little bit of a shell game.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
And I'll say that to them because I like them,
but they're also so particular now, and I said, my
argument is, you have the bandwidth to have anyone on
there that's a brand, so everyone knows you. You're part
of the lexicon. Everyone knows Polly, everyone knows Harlan Williams,
(37:25):
everyone knows me. And I think there's so many brands
that aren't nurtured or names that could be Even if
we all did together did a movie and for a
million bucks, the studios.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Would be like.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
But the audience would be like, holy, you know every
one of us.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
So and Netflix I got annoying because I hate when
these companies come in and they're so innovative and then
they hire the same dinosaur mindes and I'm like, you.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Just it's a vicious cycle.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Yeah, get the guys from Hollywood out, they get up.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
So I'm beyond crazy, right, now like I don't even
care about really entertainment.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Ways, I wish I could say all that well to me,
we're in.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
A crazy world right now, and I'm alm if you
want to go deeper.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I think entertainment is so escapism right now, and we
have a lot of crazy world.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
But that's another podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I think there's been about a five or eight year
period now of some transitioning. Ah, sir, there's some older
folks that were in the in the Hollywood games that
now we're retiring and uh passing on and you know,
just they won't be here anymore. Yes, So I think
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once that household are you house cleaning occurs?
Speaker 7 (38:44):
Are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
He cleaning was a code where at when I say
house cleaning when I'm not nt this regime change? Yeah? Okay, God?
Is that better? Do you want some shots too? I
can crack your back. No, I need that. I was
(39:05):
a wrestler. I bet I want to do right now.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
Not right now, but okay, after the third act, so.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
I could be very non invasive, slowly so old man
in the Being Gentle with Jamie Kennedy Weld today we
will be releasing noxious gases from his vetebra sorry, Okay,
I knew what I wanted you at.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Jared, what do you consider your one dad movie?
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Well, the most popular one is Some of the Mask,
and it's not it's a real that's a real sensitive spot.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
But I've dealt with it. It's been nineteen years. I
do talks about it on my pod.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
I'm best friends and really best, really good friends with
the director and what we had and what we did
and then what studio, the Machinese of what happened within
the studio just really took the movie and changed it,
and it like my brain up for a long time.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Do you want to talk about another one or no?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I mean I mean, if your this is what.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
It is, we can go there.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
Why not?
Speaker 7 (40:11):
Right?
Speaker 6 (40:12):
You won?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah? I mean we wanted to be fun. It's called
one bad movie, so that's what this is. If that's
his one bad movie? Is dude, like you know the
movie you made that just was a piece of crap
and you like think it's funny.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
Well how about how about wait, something that I think
is bad? Or we want to keep a light on me.
Think if we want to think of a movie that
is bad, like was bad bad or like what people
said is bad?
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Or they think it's bad, but you think is good.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
What Samuel L. Jackson was in a picture called Snakes
on a Plane.
Speaker 7 (40:50):
Yes, but that movie worked.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
You liked it?
Speaker 7 (40:53):
I liked it.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
What do you consider a bad movie?
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Why do I consider a bad movie? That's a good question. Hmmm,
I think a bad movie.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Is there a movie you've done in your filmography where
you looked at it later and went, I probably would
have done that one? I? Yes, which one that I
wouldn't have done? It wouldn't have done?
Speaker 6 (41:15):
I mean, all right, here's a simple one. I did
a movie called Bermuda Tentacles. Bermuda what Bermuda tentacles?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
So there's.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
It's actually it's kind of like a documentary. Now if
you believe that aliens live in the ocean, that's a
good one. But here's the thing, So I will go
through the story.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
If you like, you can passed the title Bermuda what
TLEs permuta tentacles? Theer muta tent Do you want to
hear mine? Yes, it's called sharks in Venice.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
They're probably made by this same company with it the
producer of Sharknado. I don't know if wait a minute, Venice,
La or Venice Italy, Italy.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
No, they're Denal's bro. This is so funny. Shocks in Venice.
Speaker 7 (42:20):
Wait a minute, where are you shooting?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Starring Stephen Baldwin and Vanessa Johansson. Do you know who
Vanessa Johansson is? No, she's got a sister who's an actress,
Scarlet swal dun dun dun dun dao.
Speaker 7 (42:36):
You got the B side the chromeo is owned.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
And she's fabulous. Yeah, and uh, I think she's much
more interesting than Scarlet.
Speaker 7 (42:49):
Oh my god, dude, stop making enemies right now.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Tell you.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
That's a great title. I'm just gonna start a company
that makes those movies. That's the smart Do you want money?
You and I should just come up with the dumbest
stuff we can come up with. Yah, we'd be rich.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Can I get the answer to what you consider a
bad movie? While he's bringing that up? What we deal
with technical issues?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
What do I.
Speaker 7 (43:17):
Consider a bad movie? I consider it's hard. I'm gonna
really be sweet.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Because I this is a really hard question for me
because and I hate when people who are creatives on
bad movies or who are actors and stuff, Because I
know how much work goes into it. You know what
I mean, you do, I know how much the pain
and you give a year of your life to something
(43:48):
and it just gets destroyed with the stroke of a pen.
Speaker 7 (43:52):
So I guess a bad movie.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
But on the opposite side of that is how Don't
Suck Came?
Speaker 6 (43:59):
Do You?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Was a bad movie? So you fixed it? Well?
Speaker 7 (44:03):
It was a I hated a title, and I thought
it was gonna be a bad movie.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
But if you didn't touch it, it would have been.
I thought it was a great script.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
But I definitely my point, Yeah, no, I thought that's
what we're saying, I elevate is bad movies. I mean, look,
here's the answer to your question. What's a bad movie.
Bad directing, sloppy filmmaking. Really, it's like not good storytelling,
bad stch slot shot selection, sounds, acting, all of it.
(44:36):
I mean, it's really cheesy, idea cheesy. You know that's
a bad But there are movies that are so bad
that they're good, Like you've Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
is a movie that made a mark on me because
I saw it as a young kid, and to this day,
people that know that movie know that movie.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
So that's like a B movie.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
You're never leaving this room.
Speaker 7 (44:56):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (44:57):
So it's like, I'm I'm actually, but dude, I'm also
in the deeper part of my life for check this out.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Bad is good.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Think about it.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
There are people now that I don't want to name names,
but there are people out there doing things that they're
the taste makers think they're delusional, okay, but the people
that are doing them have a fan and they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Let's just take that movie The Room.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
I never saw it, but that became like hipster irony
post irony. All the hip kids were like, shit, it
was cool to on it to the point that they
made it a movie that got Oscar nominations about it.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
So was it a bad movie?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (45:39):
I never saw it, but it was so bad it
attracted all the apparently good people in Hollywood. So it's fascinating, right,
So that I hate I mean, but there are bad movies,
of course, And I've done.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Point about a bad movie. Kennedy.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
Here's what trugg me about this movie. Okay, and I
like the assylum them and they made Shark Nato. So
let me give you my three cents on please go
so And I love everybody involved with this movie. And
I love the director Nick what's up?
Speaker 7 (46:09):
Nick?
Speaker 6 (46:09):
And I love Esther who is the head one of
the head producers deep Beebies, I mean first eights so long,
and I love a Castle.
Speaker 7 (46:16):
Here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (46:18):
Why that movie struck me as bad when I first
saw it is because they chinched on the special effects.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
It pissed me off.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
But here's what it is.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
It's the company that made Shark Nato.
Speaker 6 (46:29):
Shark Nato would be considered a bad movie that became
huge and made a mark on pop pop culture lexicon.
But that movie, to me is bad because they didn't
care enough about the special effects. But some people said
that's part of the cheesiness of it.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
And it had my.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Buddy directed it, other people produced it. It was we
went down the San Pagro for a week. We shot
on his ship. I got to play a great role
and he put me in another dramatic role in Lifetime
called if.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
They tomorrow they're making the sequels, I might do it.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
I might do it because the world, the world's insane
right now and it doesn't matter. And you know what,
AI will.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Re edit it let's talk about bad movies.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
If you look at any superhero movie now, the only
thing that makes them good, well not the only thing.
Speaker 7 (47:17):
That's not right to say.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
There's amazing stories and structures and stuff and characters, but
if they didn't have the effects. I mean, there's a
difference between them and Power Rangers or Power Rangers of
the nineties, some of these movies would look like that.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
So it is about you can.
Speaker 6 (47:34):
Make anything good or an amazing melodrama can be so
over the top bad.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
You know what I'm saying. But I think it's important
that we stay on a theme right now in this conversation,
which is I was like, in the last two years,
bro in running numbers and raising money and trying to
create content. I talked to you, dude. I'm not even
gonna say who it is. It's a big banker, dude.
He owns a big animation company. It's the biggest animation
company outside of the studio system, owned independently. And I
(48:03):
was talking to this guy about making animation films. I said,
why do they have to cost like thirty million dollars minimum?
And he's like, well, it's not really thirty minutes really
like fifteen. He can't do anything less than fifteen. I'm going,
why why is it even fifteen?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Now?
Speaker 2 (48:19):
You can? Right, So I'm talking to this guy, bro,
and then I say to him, well, I want to
kind of see if I can do this, right, I said,
I want to see if I can kind of bring
back a certain animated look. And if I did that,
would it be cheaper? And he went, of course, I
went oh. And then I went, and this is a
(48:42):
dude who only looks at the highest newest, highest, highest,
highest new. Now what's happening?
Speaker 10 (48:48):
Now?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
What the cutting edges in Japan? And you know? And
I said, because here's why, And I went, like a
freaky kind of Jedi mind trick, look what I did.
I went, Now, here's the the trailer for one hundred
and one Dalmatians, the original one hundred and one Dalmatians
and Disney right, and also you see that Matte painting,
(49:10):
you know, And all of a sudden, the music and
hey kid, the characters start talking and here's this dude
who's a pamp, big time digital freaking mac daddy and
he goes just like this and he's a little kid
again watching a thirty five forty year old version of
(49:30):
a trailer and when it was over, dude, I did
it on purpose to say to this guy, fun, right,
and he went, yeah, yeah, those old ones are fun.
I went, the old ones are fun? He went, like
a wise ass. I'm making him. Try to see what
I'm saying, which is, if you never saw animation before
(49:51):
and I showed you Pixar now or that, then you'd
probably like both. So now I want to know, can
I make a seven million dollar, nine million dollar seam
as pic Pixar story today but made in the old
kind of format.
Speaker 7 (50:11):
But there's a way to do it for free. You're
familiar with.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
AI, well, yeah, AI kind of creased me out.
Speaker 7 (50:20):
It's you gotta make friends with it.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
That's why I never smacked my toaster and never bunch
my refrigerator because that will rise up.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
No, it's just a log, dude.
Speaker 7 (50:34):
AI is you know what Sora is? What is Sora
is the death of what?
Speaker 6 (50:41):
Okay, So you can basically go on your phone right
now with chats ETP and do something called prompts okay,
and that means the words that you use.
Speaker 7 (50:50):
So they do it a prompt.
Speaker 6 (50:52):
They did a test and it said, oh beautiful, Japanese
couple on an early spring morning, the cherry blossom are
I'm full Bloom, on their way to a coffee shop,
and within eighty seconds, a one minute scene was created
(51:12):
and it looks like it was shot by Disney, but
it's not animated.
Speaker 7 (51:18):
It's real and it's insane.
Speaker 6 (51:23):
You can talk about a song and within I did
it this week fifty seconds, they'll create a song for
you and it's good.
Speaker 7 (51:32):
So I love what you're saying. And this will go
back to what Justine Bateman saying.
Speaker 6 (51:38):
Who's speaking the Gospel of Humanity, where she says literally
people are going to say this has one organic made
human content because that is out there. So I love
what you're saying, But your said Justine, Justine Bateman is
has not really a matter of what I want it. Yeah,
(51:59):
she's a I want to talk to him because she
has such a great take on AI. But so in
my opinion, I love what you're saying, but it's insane
and if AI is freaking you out, it's gonna get
A is just.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Going to be aren't you religious? Are what aren't you
like religious? I'm born again Christian? Yeah, so you I'm
kind of rebelling right now, you're teaching me a good time.
Speaker 7 (52:21):
Okay, because because AI, they say it's many things.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Well yeah, but but regardless of my biblical worldview. Well,
I have a digital worldview, right, I have a entertainment worldview.
Speaker 7 (52:38):
But somebody says, some people say that AI is summoning
the demon.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Have you ever heard that term?
Speaker 7 (52:43):
Yeah, so I would thought you would be like.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Well, no, because because because I read the end of
the Bible, and we win, So it doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter what happens with your AI doggie, we win. Sorry,
call him like I see him anyway, But like as
a as a born again Christian, I'm not supposed to
be wearing this hat. See if he's cannabis friendly. If
(53:08):
he's cannabis friendly, well it's not actually part of the earth.
Cannabis is the first plant ever to be discovered in
the ever to have a neurological receptor. Your brain has
an electrical receptor. Yeah, John mcgalliol is going to tell
me I'm wrong about that. But but but cannabis is interesting.
(53:30):
And you know, if you don't do what we did
when we were kids, then it can be very health beneficial. Yeah,
I agree, with you do I look fifty seventy you daddy,
don't answer that. Don't that was mean, dude.
Speaker 9 (53:45):
You got amazing hair, bro good skin. You're fine, Okay,
So I want to digress, go back. Your philosophy is
really interesting you. I like your how you wax poet.
It's pretty cool. So you're in kind of a legacy season.
(54:05):
You're thinking about legacy.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
So are you just gonna stay Lucy Goosey out in
Malibu with freaking Woody Harrelson and Chill or like just
whatever comes comes? Or do you think, like, knowing what
you know? Are you going to become like the first
guy to open an AI studio? And you know, I'm
being funny to make to prompt the question, which is,
(54:30):
you know, what do you see in the next fifteen years?
Just because because to be honest with people who don't
know you, who are going to watch this, you're your
bread and butter stand up comedian. You're still touring doing that,
and you could just do that as long as you
wanted and live nicely, hopefully and live nicely. Right, that's
(54:50):
a wonderful option, you know what I mean? So now
I want to know if you got writer's block as
a stand up and I wish that, I know, and
I obviously you're never going to have that cause you're
because you don't give me act you take you pretty far.
(55:11):
But like what, like I said, could you see yourself
like a you know, like a comedy Tyler Perry, You know,
whether you've made so much and done so much you
have your own studio in twenty years because it can happen.
So what I mean is where do you see yourself
but realistic, like if you can continue in this path
of making little indie films that you like and pop
(55:34):
in and out of the A list Hollywood crap when
you wanted, would you stay there or would you rather
you know, kind of lean more towards one or the other.
Speaker 7 (55:44):
Okay, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
There's a lot.
Speaker 7 (55:46):
I'm trying to give you this take your time dolist
answer on that.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
You're in the OBM dungeon, OBM one BM.
Speaker 7 (55:54):
I think the fifteen year thing is too long, Like
I literally think too.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Well.
Speaker 6 (56:00):
I think to two to four years. I think our
world is going to change so much just in the
next two years. It's already happening from when chat GTP
came out and it's on its fifth iteration, and it
literally exponentially goes.
Speaker 7 (56:16):
Do you know like what I mean by that? Like
you ever gamble, you play golf, you ever play golf?
Speaker 2 (56:22):
Speak to your mind. You're in the matrix of movies now, son.
Speaker 6 (56:26):
The speed of what it's happening is like if you
and I were playing golf, and I'd say twenty five
cents a hole.
Speaker 7 (56:32):
Every hole, we double it.
Speaker 6 (56:34):
So then the second hole is fifty cents, the third
hole is a buck, the fourth hole is two bucks.
By the time we get to the antienth hole, we're
at like almost three thousand a hole. And that you're like,
how do we get there from a quarter? That's what
AI is, so in a nutshell, let me answer your question.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Is a multi layer.
Speaker 7 (56:55):
I think that AI is the biggest thing.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
In our world.
Speaker 7 (56:59):
Okay, I think it's and affect our political stuff.
Speaker 6 (57:01):
I think it's going to affect our entertain It's every everything, everything,
so stop it.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
So I I am in a wild time in my life.
Speaker 6 (57:12):
Like I sold my house, I made some money when
the market was up great, I'm renting and I'm deciding
where I'm gonna live.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
I've lived here for thirty five years.
Speaker 7 (57:22):
So this is my home.
Speaker 6 (57:23):
It's like my streets of like from like Lebree at
Los Sienaga Fountain to Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
That's my hood.
Speaker 7 (57:32):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (57:33):
That I love it and it's changed so much, but
I love that. You're it's my stomping ground, you know
what I mean? So I can go to the clubs.
Speaker 7 (57:40):
I can do this. So let me answer many things.
Speaker 6 (57:43):
Live entertainment to me, I think is going to be
bigger than ever because people crave it, and so stand
up comedy I think will survive big. I think music
will stand by big. And also live experiences. I don't
know if you're familiar with the Van Go exhibit on
across from the Cinera Adon. They took an old building
and made an interactive ango exhibit and they charge a
(58:04):
lot of money and tickets and it's amazing. So I
think people want to go out and experiencing because as
movies and entertainment changes. I am looking to buy a
space right now in Hollywood to kind of make my own.
So I want to have like all my memorabilia in it,
a possible place to sleep, and then like also my studio.
(58:26):
So that's in the process of but there's a part
of me that also, I was just in Vegas for
a whole week and Hollywood is moving so much there,
but it's still not Hollywood. But I'm also looking so
right now, I'm in the process of doing what you're saying.
And the last three movies I did were literally people
coming to me and going these type of deals that
(58:47):
I did, and I I shot in Sreeport, Canada and
New Orleans. So yes, yes on what you're saying, Yes,
my own thing. Yes we're being disrupted, and yes if
they as much as I could Apple and the A
List stuff, I will like I had a nice part
and add Astro that was my last big like oh yeah,
and I got cut out but I really it was awesome,
(59:10):
but I got caught out. I had four scenes with
Brad Pitt, so like I literally need the tape, you
know what I mean. But like that was a process
to go through, and it was amazing to be a
piece of you know what I'm saying right because the
experience was still cool, Oh amazing, amazing director of Brad's amazing.
But it's like it did it, you know, I got
cut up. But what I'm saying is those are also
(59:31):
good for us as we're making fifty thousand doing Harpies too.
Speaker 7 (59:37):
But what go ahead? Does that answer your question?
Speaker 2 (59:39):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (59:40):
But I just think the whole world's changing your focuses
on entertainment. I mean, when's the last time you had
your Do you have robot delivery food?
Speaker 7 (59:48):
People?
Speaker 2 (59:48):
Here? Do I have?
Speaker 1 (59:49):
What?
Speaker 7 (59:50):
So?
Speaker 6 (59:50):
Do you know where I live in Hollywood West Hollywood, Date,
there's little robots that deliver food.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
No, where I live, they don't have robots. We have them.
We already have that. So we're kind of into dope
living Upsite York.
Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
Yeah, that's different, but it's good for you to see
them little robots that you should go to Lebrea and Fountain,
order Postmates and see what happens. I need you to
walk the streets. I need you to walk the streets.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Yeah, go for it. I have a question. I'm sorry,
question question I didn't get. Is Mike coming? You're bad? Sore?
Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Your one bad interview? So, so, uh, do you know
Mark Wahlberg? Of course do you know him personally? I
haven't seen him for a while, but I did. I
did one movie with him, almost three So yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Your people should contact his people because I don't know
if you heard he's building a movie.
Speaker 7 (01:00:52):
Yeah, he's all in, but he might like your idea
for there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Yeah, they don't know everything they're going to put in
it yet. They don't know.
Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
I would love to catch up with Mark I was there.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
That's a good if I were somebody like you thinking,
could I build my own comedy space that on, you know,
like me and a homage to me and then be
somebody making ship there.
Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Yeah, it's somebody might love that. I would like fund it. Yeah,
I I should talk to him. Okay, you're back.
Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
Said're about your your John Hughes phase.
Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Right, and you're a break from Jesus what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
He said that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I can't wait to have you on my podcast. Can
I love you right now? I love you right now? Yes,
because here's what you need to know. Jesus created a Yeah,
pretty true about that. You want me to start preaching
because you were woven and spun. Don't get me. See
(01:02:00):
the Bible says my people perish for a lack of knowledge,
and I'm done soon anyway. Uh now at fifty seven,
on the precipice of perhaps biodome two, I don't know
what's happening with it? I know Paul's kind of in
(01:02:22):
the club of Hollywood. I'm not you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
Paul gets to have those That movie low key could
be about the firmament, if you believe.
Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Explain Jamie Kennedy.
Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
There's a bubble, Oh, the firm firmament flatter Oh as
a whole other.
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Rabbit hole called Brackervoy. Dude, write it.
Speaker 7 (01:02:47):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Write it.
Speaker 7 (01:02:48):
But that movie has deeper messages.
Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
And I think if listen, if you want my honest opinion,
if we do Biodome two and like my ship goes
off the edge of the earth, I'm perfectly happy. Get it. Okay,
are we done? I think we're think you wrap it up?
Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
You just wrap it up?
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Now what do I do to wrap it up? Dude?
Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I think you just did it?
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I did you know? Did I did? I just finish
without knowing? Yes? Brother, thank you for coming.
Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
Dude, Thank you as an honor brother.
Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
You're super weird and funny.
Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
Really is it weird? I thought we were bonding, but like, I.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Think you want to stay with me on the weird
frequency because that is bonding. Okay, good, Sorry, I'm with you.
I mean, how many guys you know they have like
a camo kimono? That's cool? What's up? So it takes
decades of being the youngest Baldwin to get to this point.
Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
That's cool. It is an interesting camo.
Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
It's a camo kimono. Bro, I only look stupid. Welcome
to one bad movie?
Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Are we done so about kicking it? Old school?
Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Now we're done? Would you come back to talk about yes?
Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
Do you like that movie? You don't like that?
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Hey? When can I do your show?
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
And it got me through a very crazy ecstasy role?
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Would I couldn't come down? So I was I just
kept playing and playing.
Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Wow, kicking it?
Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
I love?
Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Did it? Make it? I'm gonna do this podcast, Jamie. Seriously,
everyone focused, now focus. I'm going to tell people where
they can find me. I just want you to find you.
Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
They can find me on Jamie Kennedy dot com Jamie
wat Kennedy dot com.
Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
And that's where all my stuff is.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Hey, can you explain what a podcast is? Because here's
the thing. First, we at the cloud. Yea, he knows
what that is. Now we have the algorithm. Nobody knows
what that is. Now we have a podcast thing that
everyone's doing. Can you explain what a podcast is.
Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
I think it's a way to express yourself and giving
your ideas about topics and what is your conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
What's the name of your podcast?
Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
Mine is called Hate to Break It to You, where
we I have solo rants or I do people and
we go down things.
Speaker 7 (01:05:13):
And kind of go through things that we thought work.
Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
We were Yeah, we had moments of hating to Break
it to you, But like you know, you have a
lot of Hollywood stuff. I could just hit five ideas
with you and it could be a two hour podcast
and you wouldn't even know it.
Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
We have to be Can I be weird? They have
to be blunt?
Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (01:05:31):
Like you don't want me to No, That's what I
love about you. You're blunt.
Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
No, I can't be blown. I could smoke a blunt.
I can't be blunt. Different.
Speaker 6 (01:05:41):
I think you can if you're not worried about You're
not worried about being canceled, right, because there's no canceling.
Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
We're all gonna be canceled. Dude.
Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
You can't be canceled in the season of AI, right,
because like, whatever I do a, I'll fix it exactly.
So canceled is now canceled because of AI? How choil
is that that could be?
Speaker 7 (01:06:12):
You look worried right now, Well, I was like I
was giving you a moment there. I was like, you're
taking that in. Thank you for having me, buddy. I
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I think you get this podcast. One bad movie is
the like the idea and what else have we talked about?
Speaker 10 (01:06:29):
We merely talking about movie.
Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Rexam Guilty, badnessness, unders so bad, It's good.
Speaker 7 (01:06:43):
One bad Deal
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