February 27, 2024 • 34 mins
Rosie and Onward producer, Lori E. Seid, share some conversation and news about the future.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well, hello everybody, it is me Rosi o'donald, your host
of Onward with Rosi o'donald, and we have very big news.
This is our last episode of the podcast. Don't cry,
it's okay, we'll figure it out. We have been doing
it for a year, and I've really enjoyed it. It's
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been really a wonderful kind of experience and experiment for me.
You know, I took a year and lived in Malibu
and then I was like, you know what, I'm going
to try to do a podcast for a year and
see where it goes, how it feels, and how we do.
And you know what we did really well, and we
(00:55):
got so much feedback and so many great responses. Is that,
you know, I've been thrilled with the process of the
whole thing. But here we are a year in and
I had a year contract, and then you know, we're done,
and I think we're going to take some time to
figure out maybe a different way to do a podcast.
(01:17):
You know what I really miss about this format is
the live interaction of people calling in.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know, I just.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I wish it felt more vibrant, you know, than a conversation.
Now I understand podcasts are different than radio shows, and
we were at a kind of a loss at the beginning.
Laurie and I and here's Lori East, I'd say hello,
Laurie has produced this with me, and when we started,
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she and I were not really podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Listeners, never listening to one.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
No, I think the only one I listened to on
any kind of regular basis during the Trump administration, I
listened to Podsave America and I really am grateful for
that podcast because they kept me sane during a difficult
time in the country and a difficult time personally. I
think a lot of people wanted to know what was
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going on and what was happening, and they filled me
in in a manner that kept me kind of sane
and stable.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So I'm grateful to them.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
But as far as doing my own, you know, we
were a little bit at a loss.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Behind the eight ball.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We were like, let's just try to do an interview
and see what happens, and that's what we did. But
the conversation, the connection the thoughts of other people in
the midst of talking is something that I want to explore,
and so we're talking to some people who are interested
in doing that. And before you know it. We will
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be back with something new and something different and still
in the podcast genre, I believe, but more of something live.
You know. Yeah, I think that that would be that
would be something that I would invest in in a
different way. It's it's almost like boxing, which I've never done,
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by the way, but when I watch, you know, when
I think about the live feeling of a live show,
whether it's you know, the UFC boxing, whatever you sport,
there's there's interactions, there's the audience, there's the interview where
there's the crowd, there's the the you know, and and
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that is something that I miss as a live performer.
And I love the voice memos, right, the voice memos
were great, But sometimes I would say, one hundred percent
of the time, I want to talk to that person,
you know, I want to go, hey, where are you from? What,
what's your story? How's your life, what's happening? What do
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you want to talk about? And so we're going to
figure that out as we go along. And there's lots
of places you can still find me. You can find
me on TikTok at Rosie YouTube live. We're putting some
of the shows up there from way back thirty years ago.
Is it thirty years ago? I think I believe it is.
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So we'll keep you in the loop. We'll figure out
exactly what it's going to be and how we're going
to do it, and we'll let you know, and it's
going to be sooner than later, because we want to
stay involved as this country goes through the most important
election of its time. I don't know how it's going
to turn out, but I definitely want to be involved
in the conversation and I hope that you will want
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to be too.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And that's it. It's been.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's been a great year and I've had a great time,
and you know, I will keep you up to date
on what's going on in my life. And as for now,
what's going on is my dog, which is a clay dog, really, Kuma,
who you know? I gotta say, Laurie, how excited are
you about my love of dogs? You are the ultimate
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dog person?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And could I just tell the people how not a
dog person you were?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
To really? I'm really, I know a million degree.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That was our joke. I would see a dog and
be like, oh, a dog, and you'd see a baby
and be like a baby. And we'd run in two
different directions.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Right exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But now Kuma has changed you. Well.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I have to say that being at Guide Dogs of
America for those ten days and getting trained as the
handler of this autism service dog for my child, Clay,
I was so moved by the whole experience of what
these people have dedicated their life to. You know, there
were six visually impaired people, and there were six women
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who happened to be in our pod, and two were
veterans from the war and had mobility issues as a result,
and two worked in social work hospital situations, and two
myself and Laura, were autism moms, parents of autistic girls.
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And so we had a wonderful experience learning what we
had to do and getting our butts up at six
something every morning and working until seven at night, and
really learning everything we had to learn in order to
take care of this dog. And one of the things
that I noticed, Laurie, from your love of dogs is
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how you would say good night to your dogs every night.
And I remember like you would stay over sometimes and
I remember thinking where's she going, like as we were
like heading up to the rooms, right you you know,
you go upstairs, I'm upstairs. I'm halfway up the stairs,
I'm like, where are you going? And You're like, I'm
just gonna say good night.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
To the dog. I was like, you're gonna what.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And now the dog, Kuma, sleeps in a crate right
next to the bed, so I can see her all night,
so that if she moves around or she needs anything,
now she never does. She goes in there, happily into
her kennel, trained, gets down there and waits until the
morning when you are ready to get her out of
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the crate. So I get up a little before seven,
I do my morning ritual stuff. I go in the bathroom,
I do what I have to do. I brush my teeth.
It takes some time, you know, And then I wake
up my kid. And then I open the crate and
happily the dog is wagging their tail, and go downstairs,
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goes outside, does her business, and we're off to start
the day. So it's been an amazing experience. And I
didn't know if I'd.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Be able to do it. Yeah, did you think I'd
be able to do it?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
The second told me that it was ten days in
a dorm like situation. I was like, really, like even there,
I was so proud of you to take that on.
You were so focused, you were so I'm going to
do this, And we made the joke about what are
the sheets, Like, you know, we because we've done tours
and we've done on set.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, we've been on the road before, and like.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
We'd walk in the hotel and we'd both be like.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yes, that's not going to work. This isn't gonna work.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, so yeah, just there and then you text me
and you're like, I picked up the poop, It's okay.
And I was just like, you're turning in.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
There were things about a dog, sensory things that I
was like, the slobber. I was like, now I get
it all over me, it's all over all my pants.
It's I got a little towel I clip on my
my my gene so that I can use the towel
to wipe my hands. I have the purell all the time,
like you do.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Law. Yeah. Well you used to tell me what yeah,
babies would do and what didn't bother you, and I'd
be like, I'd be like vomiting in the back.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Of yeah, like cleaning a diaper, a throw up or
it never bothered me one bit. You know, I never
thought about it with the baby, but somehow with a dog,
it just felt like it was overwhelming and I didn't
realize what you get back. But this dog has trained
their entire life in order to be of service to
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someone else, and who they are in service of is
Clay Yes, and Blakey is here with his fiance Teresa,
and they took her for a long walk, and they
walked past a dog park because you're not supposed to
take the dog a guy's dog or to the dog
park because of either fights that the dog would get
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hurt or just bad habits they would pick up, and
so they tell you not to take the dog to
a dog park. But they were walking through a dog park,
you know, near a dog park, and she didn't Kuma
did not respond, didn't like poll to go there, or
didn't do anything, and they hurt a kid having a
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little bit of a tantrum or a meltdown, and then
Kuma looked up. She looked, and she looked to the
kid that was in the middle of a crisis, and
then she wanted to go like she has been so
trained to understand that a child in crisis that that
kind of a cry is her indication to soothe the child,
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you know. So I just found it so fascinating and
the dedication that people have given, Like since the baby
puppy is born, from eight weeks on, they're trained. They're
trained by sixteen months in the house of someone who
loves the dog. Then they go to get trained at
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two different prisons here in California, and those inmates have
the dog for a year or a year and a
half sometimes and then the dog should they graduate and
successfully be placed with a family. That's the successful run
from the puppies birth until now. And I have to
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say I would love to do everything that I can
to let people know about this service more after this
don't go away. When you get a diagnosis of autism
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for your kid, nobody gives you a book, you know,
nobody hands you a roadmap. Nobody says this is what
it's going to be like, because no one knows, because
every diagnosis of autism comes with different flavors and different
accents and and different uh, different things that need attention.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yes, and sometimes it hides itself. There's there's moments. I mean,
because of you and because of Clay, I know a
little bit more about autism. But until then, you get
this picture in your head what autism means. And I
have learned that we have no picture in our head.
Each person is different and you have to just figure
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out what I don't know, If this is about what
quirks I don't know?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You know, Yes, it works exactly, yes, And they have
their own perspective. And so we've been working with UH
speech pathologists, a very learned woman about pragmatic conversation, because
when Clay meets someone or is in a new situation,
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they don't always know what to say, and sometimes what
they say is not traditional neurotypical chit chat. So the
woman's here teaching us and says, you know, hello, Clay,
how are you? And Clay responds fine, okay, Well what
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is the you know, the neurotypical response to hi, how
are you?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I'm fine? How are you right?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So the next day we do it every Monday. The
next Monday, the woman comes and says, first they do
it with me right. So she'll say, hi.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Ro how are you? And I'm like, I'm great, how
are you? Lois?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And she'll say, well, I had a really great day.
I had a very interesting lunch. And then she looked
over at Clay, and Clay goes, you think I care
about your lunch?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You know, now, listen, Clay is not trying to be mean.
She's trying to say that in her brain, it does.
It makes zero.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Sense why she would do that, you know. So finally.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
The woman says, how is your day? How are you today?
And she said, I'm not good. I don't like being here.
This is a very boring part of my day. I
know how to have a conversation and this is just dumb,
you know, and that the conversation ends right there. It's
not like and then yeah, you go on. So Clay
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came down and said to me before we started this week,
you know, I really feel as though you're trying to
mold me into someone different than who I am.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Oh wow, right, And I read some of that.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes, I said, you know, I'm really not doing that, honey.
I'm trying to arm you with basic conversational maps so
that you can follow them the way other people who
are not autistic do, right, And their response was, why
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would I want to do that?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
If I'm autistic?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Why would I want to try to change who I
am and become just a normal person that's not like
me at all.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And I didn't have an answer.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
There is no answer, because it's a great thing that
they said, yes, and it's deep, and it's it's deep,
it's very deep, and we felt, all right, we'll speak
for myself. Was the same about being queer. I didn't,
you know, it's not comparing its apples to oranges, but
the same where you know, trim your eyebrows where this?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That where?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And I was like, why are you trying to do that?
I look stupid like that. I look like a very
ugly drag queen. So I fight my life to be
who I am. Now add that to someone who is
already a little different, but in the head they're different.
They think differently, they hear differently, they see differently, and
(16:10):
I that's a beautiful thing that Clay said. I don't
know how you'd answer it.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, And I'm very conscious of not trying to take
away the parts of them that make them unique and
make them who they are. I am just trying to
provide enough resources that getting through a normal conversation doesn't
cause panic, you know, doesn't cause anxiety. And it's funny.
(16:38):
For a while, Clay had a puppet named Jeremiah and
when new people would come in, they would put on
the puppet and go talk to the people through the
pow right, And it's kind of amazing, right, And so
I'm in an interesting place trying to figure out how
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to best prepare them for their adult life. Right with
with a neurotypical society.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I knew you'd have your hands full because they are
so smart.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yes, very very smart and very you know, very deep thinker.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I mean, you know, I don't always have the answer
when when the question is why should I have to
learn to be something that I'm not?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Now Clay has friends and do they have conversations.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, I will tell you this. We had a little
friend come over to meet Kuma, and the whole time
where the young girl was very into the dog, Clay
was very into discussing BFDI Battle for Dream Island, her
very favorite video show. And so while young Harp was
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playing with the dog and getting the dog to do
things and trying to it was almost as though they
were parallel playing with different like, you know, one was
in the room with the dog and present with the dog,
and the other was in their video game, yes, and
wanting to talk about and discuss their video.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yes, I've seen Clay do that, and it's like a
masterclass where yeah, they had two friends over and they
were watching some video and Clay just knew so much
about it how to pause and make sure that they
were getting it, like explaining that character and this voice
is wrong because they are this and it was amazing, right.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And the person who voices this character also voices another
character and they're too similar for me. I wish there
was a differentiation between the two voices that you know,
and I'm like, whoa, And you know, it's like when
they do a deep dive.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's a deep dive. Like I always think.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
When I had my TV talk show, we had amazing
producers who would find out facts about celebrities that people
didn't know because, you know, celebrity culture is so overwhelmingly everywhere. Yeah,
you know, and we know so many things about celebrities
that are redundant, and so when you have an interview
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with someone that you've seen interviewed twenty times, you have
to come up with something new. And I always think, like,
what will they be like as an adult? And I
could totally see them either writing the material for these
kinds of shows and or just being a researcher, right,
because if they love the topic, there is no stopping
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their interest. So in terms of Clay, I'm trying to
figure out where the best school for them, now that
they're going to be entering middle school, where the best
school would be And although we haven't really discussed it yet,
you know, New York and going back to New York
is definitely at possibility that is on the table. And
I also feel like they might do better being around
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their siblings, you know, because this world of just mommy
and me gets small pretty quick.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
You know, how's it going with Blake and Teresa there? Well?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Great, they're here, and you know they're wonderful. Teresa, of course,
is a special ed teacher, so she understands it in
ways that some people never can. And you know, there
were times where Blake would get hurt feelings when Clay
would say I don't like this present?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh yeah at Christmas? Right.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
So the truth factor, or what is true for Clay,
is of prominent importance in her mind and her moral makeup.
So why would she lie? Is the question that she
brings up to me all they bring up to me
all the time.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Why would I lie?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And I don't like this present. Do you want me
to lie and say I like this present?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Sometimes I think that they don't even know me if
they bought me this present. The president's deeper meaning about
who they are and whether they are seen and known
and so, you know, it's a very complicated.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Parenting, yes, journey.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And I remember how implicated when Blake was young, because
I was complicated too, and you got him through his
things where people would say hello to you and they
would look at him and say I know your mommy,
and he was like, I don't know. You don't know
my mommy. Like he would get very angry because he
was very as well.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yes, so you don't know my mommy. She just famous. Yeah, exact,
that's what he would say, she just famous. So it's
interesting because it's so interlappable but different, right, because Blake
had auditory processing disorder, and you know there's all overlaps
with ASD autism spectrum disorder, and and there are overlaps,
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but when you have a diagnosis first and foremost of autism,
you know, the behavior is different. Yeah, the outlook is different,
the worldview is different. And I think that the more
that they are around their siblings, the more they understand
the family dynamic. You know, since they've been here, we've
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watched some movies. We watched The Flintstones with me.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
In it starring Rosy O'Donnell.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Did they like it?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yes, and they laughed and they got it, and you know,
it was just funny to sit and watch with my
nearly married, twenty four year old son and my eleven
year old kiddo. They're different responses to me. Amazing, Yeah,
it really was amazing. And you know, Blakie's wedding is
coming up so exciting. Yeah, it's so exciting. It's hard
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for me to believe, you know, my first kiddo wedding
to do. You know, my first I mean, Chelsea was
married when she was very young and got divorced, but
she was not living with us when that occurred, and
so we didn't have there wasn't a wedding, it was
they just got married. So this is the first kind
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of big wedding that we're doing for one of the kids,
and that happens in August, and you know, very excited
to do that and having them here makes me really
know how much it's important for me to be around
them more after this don't go away. When I moved
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here with Clay, it was because we were starting third
grade and I had just gotten a role on a
new series called American Jigelow and COVID came and the
strike came, and it ended up that we only did
one season, not even a full season. Truthfully, there was
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a lot of chaos on the set and we just
never really took off. And so for the last two years,
I haven't been working while I've been here. And now
as we enter another middle school, enter the middle school years,
I just want to make sure we have the best
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that we can have for what their specific needs are
in those years.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Are so important, the middle school years. It's so important.
You have the younger years and you carefully have helped
Clay along. But now the middle school years, I remember
that's when stress really started.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yes, and and Clay lives with a lot of stress,
you know, And any way that we can minimize that,
anyway that we can find the right school for them
for now. The school that they're in here did a
great job for those three years, but it's time. I
think with the new assessment and evaluation from UCLA about
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the areas of strength and areas of weakness. We're going
to have to make another plan, and so that's what
we're in the middle of doing, which is also the
reason why we, you know, are are done with this
rendition of Onward, because we need to figure out where
we're going to be and how we're going to set
it up, and whether or not we can add this
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element of live feeling, live recording, live live possibly. You know,
the the thrill of my TV show for me was
that there was no safety net. That you were on
that high wire alone for one hour and you had
to just do the best that you could and know
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that there's another live one the next day. And that's
what we did live on TV for six years. And
that's what I'd like to find some sort of hybrid,
you know. I don't want to get dressed up and
the hair and makeup and interview celebrities on the talk show.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It feels like I already did that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
What can we do now that's innovative and new and
really fits in with today's digital platforms, you.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Know, and with what's happening. Things happened so fast. My
frustration also is that there would be things we want
to talk about, but we couldn't really. By the time
we aired it, we were on three new things, like
you know, like.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I so many things happening in the world, in the
mid East, in the United States.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
And like the election. Next, Benedict, well, that was a
horrible story. I actually even couldn't call you. I was
so upset. I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I was so upset too.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I was first of all, that little person looks a
lot like my little person.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yes, that absolutely, I'm getting chills as you say that.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, same haircut, same same little thing. Yea and non
binary young person sixteen I believe sixteen and was killed,
murdered in their school by three older class people, people
who were a couple of years older. And some of
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the reporting of the case, you know, was heartbreaking as well,
because they.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
They did nothing. Not only did they do nothing, but
they got suspended. Next that finally the teacher broke it up,
didn't call the ambulance, didn't call help, no idea. Yeah,
how they got home, but then the school suspended.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Next and what about the other Girlso did that?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
No word on the other girls. And they're looking into
it because they're not sure that the beating is what
killed next.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, give me a break. I know, the whole thing
is just so unbelievable. And it's Oklahoma where the governor is.
I know his last name sounds like shit, but it's
Governor Kevin Stitt who made it mandatory that the only
bathroom you could use was the bathroom of your birth gender.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
How you say it?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Because it's so want to leave them alone, do a WC,
get a water closet.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You're so obsessed with people's bodily functions that you teach
this hate this child is It was like Matthew Shepherd
all over again.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It really was very horrifying.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, and it, you know, threw me for a loop too,
because you know, you always worry about your kid's safety,
but when you have a exceptionally vulnerable child, it's one hundredfold.
You know, when you have a disability in the family,
when someone is is when it's not a fair fight, right,
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they'll even mind. Yeah, they don't even get it. And
just heartbreaking. But you know, these are all the things
we eat. We've we've done what we could do, and
we try to make it, you know, entertaining. We hope
that you guys have enjoyed it. I'd like to thank
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all of our guests, starting with Sharon Gless, who was
amazing as a first guest and still one of our
highest downloaded episodes. The amazing Rory Kennedy with her documentary
about the volcano, and Jennifer Lewis of the Saint Louis
Lewis's Dylan Mulvaney, who was fantastic, Brookshields who has her
own podcast. Margaret Chow, always funny, always an activist, stood
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up and was talking about that horrible murder in the
school just as we were this morning, making me cry
with her very poignant and heartfelt words.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Cheta Rivera, who we lost.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But so glad I got to have that last conversation
with her, and you guys got to hear it. The
amazing Cameron Mannheim, who is a friend and a good
egg all around. Ricky Lake. Nobody makes me laugh as
much as Ricky Lake, and nobody makes me look at her.
I look at Ricky in wonderment because of how she's
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able to live her life. And Stephanie Mills, who I've
adored since I saw her on Broadway back in nineteen
ninety something eighty something eighty Something to eight logic who
I met at a restaurant and he turned out to
be a friend, and what an amazing story he has.
The one and only Holland Taylor was fabulous. Bridget Everett
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so wonderful and her show so great. Cyndi Lauper, Billy Porter,
reality winner who is a national hero if you asked me,
Belinda Carlisle, thank you for doing our show. Kristin Schenowith,
doctor Daniel Rosen, Sheila Nevans one of the smartest women
I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Is she nominated for an Academy Award or friend?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Sheula? I believe she is?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yes, yes, rightly so it's about banning books.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yes, yep, Sheila Evans the most awarded woman in showbiz
history and rightly so, rightly so. Marcy Simmons, Samantha Bee,
Elizabeth Faulkner, my chef and one hell of a person,
Maria Bamford, Lena Waith, Alexander Vinman.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I loved having him on.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Kathy Griffin, one of the highest rated ones we've had period.
Kathy Griffin, Lyle Menendez. That was a very heavy and
interesting view of a person who's maybe you hadn't thought
about in a long time, and hopefully you revisited that
case and all the time that has passed and and
(32:09):
maybe have a new way.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
To view it.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Judy Gold who is hysterical and funny and kind. Amy
Nelson whose family was attacked by Jeff Bezos and Amazon
from May one now and they want and I'm so
happy for them. Sophie Valentine Hawkins, who's a fantastic person.
The reason we know each other, Yes, we know each
(32:32):
other because of Sophie Valentine Hawkins. There you go, Angela Tucker,
Charles Bush, Cheryl Jon Dunie, Alexandra Pelosi, Alison Joseph's, Murray Hill,
Annoyed Lemon, Sam Harris, my Buddy, what a great singer
he is, What a great writer, Jimmy Smagoola. We had
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questions from listeners. Derek Downey Junior, my squirrel friend, Kayleie
Schmidt who helped me with the with the dog service
dog and coaches the autism parents who are going through it. Kayleie,
thank you so much. And my favorite Linda Richmond. That
was just last week, and that is a total of
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all the guests that we had on this show. And
I just want to thank everyone, I really do. I
want to thank iHeartRadio, I want to thank everybody who listened,
and I want to let you know that we're not
going anywhere. We'll be around somewhere. Look for us on
TikTok at Rosie and thank you very much for all
the support here at Onward with Rosie, O'Donnell, and you
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take care of yourself and I will be seeing you
on the Tiki Talk.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Laura, I love you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I love you, Lyra.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Thank you for all the help. You were amazing and
there it is.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Thank you very much. We're out of here.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Peace out.
Well, hello everybody, it is me Rosi o'donald, your host
of Onward with Rosi o'donald, and we have very big news.
This is our last episode of the podcast. Don't cry,
it's okay, we'll figure it out. We have been doing
it for a year, and I've really enjoyed it. It's
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been really a wonderful kind of experience and experiment for me.
You know, I took a year and lived in Malibu
and then I was like, you know what, I'm going
to try to do a podcast for a year and
see where it goes, how it feels, and how we do.
And you know what we did really well, and we
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got so much feedback and so many great responses. Is that,
you know, I've been thrilled with the process of the
whole thing. But here we are a year in and
I had a year contract, and then you know, we're done,
and I think we're going to take some time to
figure out maybe a different way to do a podcast.
(01:17):
You know what I really miss about this format is
the live interaction of people calling in.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know, I just.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I wish it felt more vibrant, you know, than a conversation.
Now I understand podcasts are different than radio shows, and
we were at a kind of a loss at the beginning.
Laurie and I and here's Lori East, I'd say hello,
Laurie has produced this with me, and when we started,
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she and I were not really podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Listeners, never listening to one.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
No, I think the only one I listened to on
any kind of regular basis during the Trump administration, I
listened to Podsave America and I really am grateful for
that podcast because they kept me sane during a difficult
time in the country and a difficult time personally. I
think a lot of people wanted to know what was
(02:18):
going on and what was happening, and they filled me
in in a manner that kept me kind of sane
and stable.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So I'm grateful to them.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
But as far as doing my own, you know, we
were a little bit at a loss.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Behind the eight ball.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We were like, let's just try to do an interview
and see what happens, and that's what we did. But
the conversation, the connection the thoughts of other people in
the midst of talking is something that I want to explore,
and so we're talking to some people who are interested
in doing that. And before you know it. We will
(02:55):
be back with something new and something different and still
in the podcast genre, I believe, but more of something live.
You know. Yeah, I think that that would be that
would be something that I would invest in in a
different way. It's it's almost like boxing, which I've never done,
(03:17):
by the way, but when I watch, you know, when
I think about the live feeling of a live show,
whether it's you know, the UFC boxing, whatever you sport,
there's there's interactions, there's the audience, there's the interview where
there's the crowd, there's the the you know, and and
(03:39):
that is something that I miss as a live performer.
And I love the voice memos, right, the voice memos
were great, But sometimes I would say, one hundred percent
of the time, I want to talk to that person,
you know, I want to go, hey, where are you from? What,
what's your story? How's your life, what's happening? What do
(03:59):
you want to talk about? And so we're going to
figure that out as we go along. And there's lots
of places you can still find me. You can find
me on TikTok at Rosie YouTube live. We're putting some
of the shows up there from way back thirty years ago.
Is it thirty years ago? I think I believe it is.
(04:20):
So we'll keep you in the loop. We'll figure out
exactly what it's going to be and how we're going
to do it, and we'll let you know, and it's
going to be sooner than later, because we want to
stay involved as this country goes through the most important
election of its time. I don't know how it's going
to turn out, but I definitely want to be involved
in the conversation and I hope that you will want
(04:42):
to be too.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And that's it. It's been.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's been a great year and I've had a great time,
and you know, I will keep you up to date
on what's going on in my life. And as for now,
what's going on is my dog, which is a clay dog, really, Kuma,
who you know? I gotta say, Laurie, how excited are
you about my love of dogs? You are the ultimate
(05:08):
dog person?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And could I just tell the people how not a
dog person you were?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
To really? I'm really, I know a million degree.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That was our joke. I would see a dog and
be like, oh, a dog, and you'd see a baby
and be like a baby. And we'd run in two
different directions.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Right exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But now Kuma has changed you. Well.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I have to say that being at Guide Dogs of
America for those ten days and getting trained as the
handler of this autism service dog for my child, Clay,
I was so moved by the whole experience of what
these people have dedicated their life to. You know, there
were six visually impaired people, and there were six women
(05:54):
who happened to be in our pod, and two were
veterans from the war and had mobility issues as a result,
and two worked in social work hospital situations, and two
myself and Laura, were autism moms, parents of autistic girls.
(06:16):
And so we had a wonderful experience learning what we
had to do and getting our butts up at six
something every morning and working until seven at night, and
really learning everything we had to learn in order to
take care of this dog. And one of the things
that I noticed, Laurie, from your love of dogs is
(06:41):
how you would say good night to your dogs every night.
And I remember like you would stay over sometimes and
I remember thinking where's she going, like as we were
like heading up to the rooms, right you you know,
you go upstairs, I'm upstairs. I'm halfway up the stairs,
I'm like, where are you going? And You're like, I'm
just gonna say good night.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
To the dog. I was like, you're gonna what.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And now the dog, Kuma, sleeps in a crate right
next to the bed, so I can see her all night,
so that if she moves around or she needs anything,
now she never does. She goes in there, happily into
her kennel, trained, gets down there and waits until the
morning when you are ready to get her out of
(07:25):
the crate. So I get up a little before seven,
I do my morning ritual stuff. I go in the bathroom,
I do what I have to do. I brush my teeth.
It takes some time, you know, And then I wake
up my kid. And then I open the crate and
happily the dog is wagging their tail, and go downstairs,
(07:46):
goes outside, does her business, and we're off to start
the day. So it's been an amazing experience. And I
didn't know if I'd.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Be able to do it. Yeah, did you think I'd
be able to do it?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
The second told me that it was ten days in
a dorm like situation. I was like, really, like even there,
I was so proud of you to take that on.
You were so focused, you were so I'm going to
do this, And we made the joke about what are
the sheets, Like, you know, we because we've done tours
and we've done on set.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, we've been on the road before, and like.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
We'd walk in the hotel and we'd both be like.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yes, that's not going to work. This isn't gonna work.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, so yeah, just there and then you text me
and you're like, I picked up the poop, It's okay.
And I was just like, you're turning in.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
There were things about a dog, sensory things that I
was like, the slobber. I was like, now I get
it all over me, it's all over all my pants.
It's I got a little towel I clip on my
my my gene so that I can use the towel
to wipe my hands. I have the purell all the time,
like you do.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Law. Yeah. Well you used to tell me what yeah,
babies would do and what didn't bother you, and I'd
be like, I'd be like vomiting in the back.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Of yeah, like cleaning a diaper, a throw up or
it never bothered me one bit. You know, I never
thought about it with the baby, but somehow with a dog,
it just felt like it was overwhelming and I didn't
realize what you get back. But this dog has trained
their entire life in order to be of service to
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someone else, and who they are in service of is
Clay Yes, and Blakey is here with his fiance Teresa,
and they took her for a long walk, and they
walked past a dog park because you're not supposed to
take the dog a guy's dog or to the dog
park because of either fights that the dog would get
(09:49):
hurt or just bad habits they would pick up, and
so they tell you not to take the dog to
a dog park. But they were walking through a dog park,
you know, near a dog park, and she didn't Kuma
did not respond, didn't like poll to go there, or
didn't do anything, and they hurt a kid having a
(10:11):
little bit of a tantrum or a meltdown, and then
Kuma looked up. She looked, and she looked to the
kid that was in the middle of a crisis, and
then she wanted to go like she has been so
trained to understand that a child in crisis that that
kind of a cry is her indication to soothe the child,
(10:35):
you know. So I just found it so fascinating and
the dedication that people have given, Like since the baby
puppy is born, from eight weeks on, they're trained. They're
trained by sixteen months in the house of someone who
loves the dog. Then they go to get trained at
(10:58):
two different prisons here in California, and those inmates have
the dog for a year or a year and a
half sometimes and then the dog should they graduate and
successfully be placed with a family. That's the successful run
from the puppies birth until now. And I have to
(11:19):
say I would love to do everything that I can
to let people know about this service more after this
don't go away. When you get a diagnosis of autism
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for your kid, nobody gives you a book, you know,
nobody hands you a roadmap. Nobody says this is what
it's going to be like, because no one knows, because
every diagnosis of autism comes with different flavors and different
accents and and different uh, different things that need attention.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yes, and sometimes it hides itself. There's there's moments. I mean,
because of you and because of Clay, I know a
little bit more about autism. But until then, you get
this picture in your head what autism means. And I
have learned that we have no picture in our head.
Each person is different and you have to just figure
(12:35):
out what I don't know, If this is about what
quirks I don't know?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You know, Yes, it works exactly, yes, And they have
their own perspective. And so we've been working with UH
speech pathologists, a very learned woman about pragmatic conversation, because
when Clay meets someone or is in a new situation,
(13:01):
they don't always know what to say, and sometimes what
they say is not traditional neurotypical chit chat. So the
woman's here teaching us and says, you know, hello, Clay,
how are you? And Clay responds fine, okay, Well what
(13:23):
is the you know, the neurotypical response to hi, how
are you?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I'm fine? How are you right?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So the next day we do it every Monday. The
next Monday, the woman comes and says, first they do
it with me right. So she'll say, hi.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Ro how are you? And I'm like, I'm great, how
are you? Lois?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And she'll say, well, I had a really great day.
I had a very interesting lunch. And then she looked
over at Clay, and Clay goes, you think I care
about your lunch?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You know, now, listen, Clay is not trying to be mean.
She's trying to say that in her brain, it does.
It makes zero.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Sense why she would do that, you know. So finally.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
The woman says, how is your day? How are you today?
And she said, I'm not good. I don't like being here.
This is a very boring part of my day. I
know how to have a conversation and this is just dumb,
you know, and that the conversation ends right there. It's
not like and then yeah, you go on. So Clay
(14:29):
came down and said to me before we started this week,
you know, I really feel as though you're trying to
mold me into someone different than who I am.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Oh wow, right, And I read some of that.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes, I said, you know, I'm really not doing that, honey.
I'm trying to arm you with basic conversational maps so
that you can follow them the way other people who
are not autistic do, right, And their response was, why
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would I want to do that?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
If I'm autistic?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Why would I want to try to change who I
am and become just a normal person that's not like
me at all.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And I didn't have an answer.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
There is no answer, because it's a great thing that
they said, yes, and it's deep, and it's it's deep,
it's very deep, and we felt, all right, we'll speak
for myself. Was the same about being queer. I didn't,
you know, it's not comparing its apples to oranges, but
the same where you know, trim your eyebrows where this?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That where?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And I was like, why are you trying to do that?
I look stupid like that. I look like a very
ugly drag queen. So I fight my life to be
who I am. Now add that to someone who is
already a little different, but in the head they're different.
They think differently, they hear differently, they see differently, and
(16:10):
I that's a beautiful thing that Clay said. I don't
know how you'd answer it.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, And I'm very conscious of not trying to take
away the parts of them that make them unique and
make them who they are. I am just trying to
provide enough resources that getting through a normal conversation doesn't
cause panic, you know, doesn't cause anxiety. And it's funny.
(16:38):
For a while, Clay had a puppet named Jeremiah and
when new people would come in, they would put on
the puppet and go talk to the people through the
pow right, And it's kind of amazing, right, And so
I'm in an interesting place trying to figure out how
(17:00):
to best prepare them for their adult life. Right with
with a neurotypical society.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I knew you'd have your hands full because they are
so smart.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yes, very very smart and very you know, very deep thinker.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I mean, you know, I don't always have the answer
when when the question is why should I have to
learn to be something that I'm not?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Now Clay has friends and do they have conversations.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, I will tell you this. We had a little
friend come over to meet Kuma, and the whole time
where the young girl was very into the dog, Clay
was very into discussing BFDI Battle for Dream Island, her
very favorite video show. And so while young Harp was
(18:00):
playing with the dog and getting the dog to do
things and trying to it was almost as though they
were parallel playing with different like, you know, one was
in the room with the dog and present with the dog,
and the other was in their video game, yes, and
wanting to talk about and discuss their video.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yes, I've seen Clay do that, and it's like a
masterclass where yeah, they had two friends over and they
were watching some video and Clay just knew so much
about it how to pause and make sure that they
were getting it, like explaining that character and this voice
is wrong because they are this and it was amazing, right.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And the person who voices this character also voices another
character and they're too similar for me. I wish there
was a differentiation between the two voices that you know,
and I'm like, whoa, And you know, it's like when
they do a deep dive.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's a deep dive. Like I always think.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
When I had my TV talk show, we had amazing
producers who would find out facts about celebrities that people
didn't know because, you know, celebrity culture is so overwhelmingly everywhere. Yeah,
you know, and we know so many things about celebrities
that are redundant, and so when you have an interview
(19:20):
with someone that you've seen interviewed twenty times, you have
to come up with something new. And I always think, like,
what will they be like as an adult? And I
could totally see them either writing the material for these
kinds of shows and or just being a researcher, right,
because if they love the topic, there is no stopping
(19:43):
their interest. So in terms of Clay, I'm trying to
figure out where the best school for them, now that
they're going to be entering middle school, where the best
school would be And although we haven't really discussed it yet,
you know, New York and going back to New York
is definitely at possibility that is on the table. And
I also feel like they might do better being around
(20:05):
their siblings, you know, because this world of just mommy
and me gets small pretty quick.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
You know, how's it going with Blake and Teresa there? Well?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Great, they're here, and you know they're wonderful. Teresa, of course,
is a special ed teacher, so she understands it in
ways that some people never can. And you know, there
were times where Blake would get hurt feelings when Clay
would say I don't like this present?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh yeah at Christmas? Right.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
So the truth factor, or what is true for Clay,
is of prominent importance in her mind and her moral makeup.
So why would she lie? Is the question that she
brings up to me all they bring up to me
all the time.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Why would I lie?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And I don't like this present. Do you want me
to lie and say I like this present?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Sometimes I think that they don't even know me if
they bought me this present. The president's deeper meaning about
who they are and whether they are seen and known
and so, you know, it's a very complicated.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Parenting, yes, journey.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And I remember how implicated when Blake was young, because
I was complicated too, and you got him through his
things where people would say hello to you and they
would look at him and say I know your mommy,
and he was like, I don't know. You don't know
my mommy. Like he would get very angry because he
was very as well.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yes, so you don't know my mommy. She just famous. Yeah, exact,
that's what he would say, she just famous. So it's
interesting because it's so interlappable but different, right, because Blake
had auditory processing disorder, and you know there's all overlaps
with ASD autism spectrum disorder, and and there are overlaps,
(22:05):
but when you have a diagnosis first and foremost of autism,
you know, the behavior is different. Yeah, the outlook is different,
the worldview is different. And I think that the more
that they are around their siblings, the more they understand
the family dynamic. You know, since they've been here, we've
(22:26):
watched some movies. We watched The Flintstones with me.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
In it starring Rosy O'Donnell.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Did they like it?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yes, and they laughed and they got it, and you know,
it was just funny to sit and watch with my
nearly married, twenty four year old son and my eleven
year old kiddo. They're different responses to me. Amazing, Yeah,
it really was amazing. And you know, Blakie's wedding is
coming up so exciting. Yeah, it's so exciting. It's hard
(22:59):
for me to believe, you know, my first kiddo wedding
to do. You know, my first I mean, Chelsea was
married when she was very young and got divorced, but
she was not living with us when that occurred, and
so we didn't have there wasn't a wedding, it was
they just got married. So this is the first kind
(23:19):
of big wedding that we're doing for one of the kids,
and that happens in August, and you know, very excited
to do that and having them here makes me really
know how much it's important for me to be around
them more after this don't go away. When I moved
(23:59):
here with Clay, it was because we were starting third
grade and I had just gotten a role on a
new series called American Jigelow and COVID came and the
strike came, and it ended up that we only did
one season, not even a full season. Truthfully, there was
(24:21):
a lot of chaos on the set and we just
never really took off. And so for the last two years,
I haven't been working while I've been here. And now
as we enter another middle school, enter the middle school years,
I just want to make sure we have the best
(24:42):
that we can have for what their specific needs are
in those years.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Are so important, the middle school years. It's so important.
You have the younger years and you carefully have helped
Clay along. But now the middle school years, I remember
that's when stress really started.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yes, and and Clay lives with a lot of stress,
you know, And any way that we can minimize that,
anyway that we can find the right school for them
for now. The school that they're in here did a
great job for those three years, but it's time. I
think with the new assessment and evaluation from UCLA about
(25:28):
the areas of strength and areas of weakness. We're going
to have to make another plan, and so that's what
we're in the middle of doing, which is also the
reason why we, you know, are are done with this
rendition of Onward, because we need to figure out where
we're going to be and how we're going to set
it up, and whether or not we can add this
(25:50):
element of live feeling, live recording, live live possibly. You know,
the the thrill of my TV show for me was
that there was no safety net. That you were on
that high wire alone for one hour and you had
to just do the best that you could and know
(26:11):
that there's another live one the next day. And that's
what we did live on TV for six years. And
that's what I'd like to find some sort of hybrid,
you know. I don't want to get dressed up and
the hair and makeup and interview celebrities on the talk show.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It feels like I already did that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
What can we do now that's innovative and new and
really fits in with today's digital platforms, you.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Know, and with what's happening. Things happened so fast. My
frustration also is that there would be things we want
to talk about, but we couldn't really. By the time
we aired it, we were on three new things, like
you know, like.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I so many things happening in the world, in the
mid East, in the United States.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
And like the election. Next, Benedict, well, that was a
horrible story. I actually even couldn't call you. I was
so upset. I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I was so upset too.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I was first of all, that little person looks a
lot like my little person.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yes, that absolutely, I'm getting chills as you say that.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, same haircut, same same little thing. Yea and non
binary young person sixteen I believe sixteen and was killed,
murdered in their school by three older class people, people
who were a couple of years older. And some of
(27:41):
the reporting of the case, you know, was heartbreaking as well,
because they.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
They did nothing. Not only did they do nothing, but
they got suspended. Next that finally the teacher broke it up,
didn't call the ambulance, didn't call help, no idea. Yeah,
how they got home, but then the school suspended.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Next and what about the other Girlso did that?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
No word on the other girls. And they're looking into
it because they're not sure that the beating is what
killed next.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, give me a break. I know, the whole thing
is just so unbelievable. And it's Oklahoma where the governor is.
I know his last name sounds like shit, but it's
Governor Kevin Stitt who made it mandatory that the only
bathroom you could use was the bathroom of your birth gender.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
How you say it?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Because it's so want to leave them alone, do a WC,
get a water closet.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You're so obsessed with people's bodily functions that you teach
this hate this child is It was like Matthew Shepherd
all over again.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It really was very horrifying.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, and it, you know, threw me for a loop too,
because you know, you always worry about your kid's safety,
but when you have a exceptionally vulnerable child, it's one hundredfold.
You know, when you have a disability in the family,
when someone is is when it's not a fair fight, right,
(29:18):
they'll even mind. Yeah, they don't even get it. And
just heartbreaking. But you know, these are all the things
we eat. We've we've done what we could do, and
we try to make it, you know, entertaining. We hope
that you guys have enjoyed it. I'd like to thank
(29:39):
all of our guests, starting with Sharon Gless, who was
amazing as a first guest and still one of our
highest downloaded episodes. The amazing Rory Kennedy with her documentary
about the volcano, and Jennifer Lewis of the Saint Louis
Lewis's Dylan Mulvaney, who was fantastic, Brookshields who has her
own podcast. Margaret Chow, always funny, always an activist, stood
(30:04):
up and was talking about that horrible murder in the
school just as we were this morning, making me cry
with her very poignant and heartfelt words.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Cheta Rivera, who we lost.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But so glad I got to have that last conversation
with her, and you guys got to hear it. The
amazing Cameron Mannheim, who is a friend and a good
egg all around. Ricky Lake. Nobody makes me laugh as
much as Ricky Lake, and nobody makes me look at her.
I look at Ricky in wonderment because of how she's
(30:39):
able to live her life. And Stephanie Mills, who I've
adored since I saw her on Broadway back in nineteen
ninety something eighty something eighty Something to eight logic who
I met at a restaurant and he turned out to
be a friend, and what an amazing story he has.
The one and only Holland Taylor was fabulous. Bridget Everett
(31:02):
so wonderful and her show so great. Cyndi Lauper, Billy Porter,
reality winner who is a national hero if you asked me,
Belinda Carlisle, thank you for doing our show. Kristin Schenowith,
doctor Daniel Rosen, Sheila Nevans one of the smartest women
I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Is she nominated for an Academy Award or friend?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Sheula? I believe she is?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yes, yes, rightly so it's about banning books.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yes, yep, Sheila Evans the most awarded woman in showbiz
history and rightly so, rightly so. Marcy Simmons, Samantha Bee,
Elizabeth Faulkner, my chef and one hell of a person,
Maria Bamford, Lena Waith, Alexander Vinman.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I loved having him on.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Kathy Griffin, one of the highest rated ones we've had period.
Kathy Griffin, Lyle Menendez. That was a very heavy and
interesting view of a person who's maybe you hadn't thought
about in a long time, and hopefully you revisited that
case and all the time that has passed and and
(32:09):
maybe have a new way.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
To view it.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Judy Gold who is hysterical and funny and kind. Amy
Nelson whose family was attacked by Jeff Bezos and Amazon
from May one now and they want and I'm so
happy for them. Sophie Valentine Hawkins, who's a fantastic person.
The reason we know each other, Yes, we know each
(32:32):
other because of Sophie Valentine Hawkins. There you go, Angela Tucker,
Charles Bush, Cheryl Jon Dunie, Alexandra Pelosi, Alison Joseph's, Murray Hill,
Annoyed Lemon, Sam Harris, my Buddy, what a great singer
he is, What a great writer, Jimmy Smagoola. We had
(32:52):
questions from listeners. Derek Downey Junior, my squirrel friend, Kayleie
Schmidt who helped me with the with the dog service
dog and coaches the autism parents who are going through it. Kayleie,
thank you so much. And my favorite Linda Richmond. That
was just last week, and that is a total of
(33:15):
all the guests that we had on this show. And
I just want to thank everyone, I really do. I
want to thank iHeartRadio, I want to thank everybody who listened,
and I want to let you know that we're not
going anywhere. We'll be around somewhere. Look for us on
TikTok at Rosie and thank you very much for all
the support here at Onward with Rosie, O'Donnell, and you
(33:36):
take care of yourself and I will be seeing you
on the Tiki Talk.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Laura, I love you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I love you, Lyra.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Thank you for all the help. You were amazing and
there it is.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Thank you very much. We're out of here.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Peace out.
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