November 11, 2024 • 20 mins
On this episode of Our American Stories, as big freighters go, she was bigger than most with a crew and captain well-seasoned...but on November 10th, 1975, she and her 29-man crew were sent to the bottom of Lake Superior. Ric Mixter of Lake Fury tells the story.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is our American Stories, and our next story comes
to us courtesy of Rick Mixter, a shipwreck researcher and
diver who's explored over one hundred and thirty shipwrecks, one
of which is the subject of this story on the
most famous shipwreck on the Great Lakes. Here's our own
Monte Montgomery with a story.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
When we think of the word lake, we often think
of a calm, placid and small body of water. But
the Great Lakes are anything but that.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
People underestimate them, you know it literally, they think they're ponds,
they think that they're you know, they're much smaller than
the ocean. And the truth is that the Great Lakes
span over a thousand miles. You know, Lake Superior is immense,
and unfortunately it has these jagged shoals that, unlike the ocean,
it's confined. So these shoals bounce waves back and forth.
(01:07):
And these confused waves on the Great Lakes tend to
really mess with ships and make it very difficult to
navigate in a storm.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And the results of these confused seas have often been deadly.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
There's a huge argument on how many shipwrecks are on
the Great Lakes because it's really hard to judge. Most
of the time we would put it to insurance settlements.
Let's look at Lloyd's of London or other places that
paid out, but we don't know if they were recovered.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
If you set on.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
The bottom, most people would probably throw out a number
between six thousand and ten thousand shipwrecks that are still
on the bottom.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
But out of all these shipwrecks, there's one that has
been etched into the collective consciousness of the people of
the Great Lakes, the Edmond Fitzgerald. And there's a reason
for that.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Fitzgerald is famous for two words. Gordon Lightfoot. It's literally
a wreck that I think would have been forgotten if
not for a Canadian songwriter who took the story and
turned it into a seven and a half minute song
that went to number two on the charts. And once
that happened, it became enamored not only by the people
(02:17):
of the Great Lakes, it became their song.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Played every November. Every time you.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Turn on the radio, somebody plays it at that time
because of the gales of November, and to remember the crew.
Nobody argues that it's not Gordon Lightfoot. It is the
largest shipwreck on the Great Lakes by a couple hundred feet.
The Fitzgerald was seven hundred and twenty nine feet long
and lost with all hands, which was part of the mystery.
I think that captivated even Gordon Lightfoot, and that's why
(02:46):
it kind of became a story. How in nineteen seventy
five could you have a seven hundred foot freighter with
twenty nine men completely vanished. Fitzgerald was one of the
last of the ships built in Michigan, which we used
to have an amazing ship building prowess. We were number
one on the Great Lakes for years. Just a massive ship.
(03:09):
I mean, it was the flagship for Columbia Transportation. So
when it was launched, not only was she the biggest,
but she was well appointed. She had the best skipper
according to Columbia, the best cook. Because they would entertain
many of the steel companies like National Steels, President or
you know, big wigs would come on board, bring their
family along, and you know, it would have inside jail.
(03:31):
Hudson Company, the famous Hudson Store had all of the
appointments inside, so your beds, all of the furniture which
had to be custom cut to fit the canter of
the floor of the Fitzgerald, which was, you know, slightly rounded,
they had to cut the legs of the beds to
fit correctly. So it was the flagship. It was the
ship that everybody wanted to be assigned to, and it
(03:52):
was certainly the ship that gave out.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Many rides to people. It was also fast.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They called it the Toledo Express because it made that
run so quick.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And for the next seventeen years, the Edmond Fitzgerald would
continue to make that trip from Superior, Wisconsin to Detroit
laden with iron ore, and there was no reason to
expect that on November ninth, nineteen seventy five, her trip
under the command of Captain Ernest McSorley, would go any differently.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It was a Sunday, and it was in Superior, Wisconsin
on a beautiful day, and Jack McCarthy, the first may
would be in charge of telling the guys, you know,
the loading, make sure that the ship was loaded evenly,
in which they would go underneath a gravity fed doc
and it would actually spill these round taconite pellets into
the cargo hold, which they took twenty six thousand tons.
(04:41):
This is where Gordon Lightfoot was wrong on a couple
of accounts. In his song he said fully loaded for Cleveland,
but it wasn't fully loaded. It was less than two
thirds loaded because she was actually going to River Rouge
that near the area to the Zug Island, and in
order to get into that slip, she couldn't carry all
of for cargo because she would hit bottom in the
(05:02):
Detroit River. So not fully loaded, not going to Cleveland,
actually going into the Detroit area with a load of
iron ore that would eventually become automobiles. And they take
off into a beautiful day, and as they do, McSorley
in the pilot house actually sees that a big storm
is coming up. He's got a radio that he can
get reports through, and he's a weather ship, so he
(05:23):
takes his observations and adds them to the weather reports
to help forecasters try to develop where the storm's going
to go. And it's quickly ascertained that he's going to
get a storm that's going to come right through from
Oklahoma all the way up to Marquette, and so he
starts to calculate how long that would take and uses
the forecast that he's getting given as well and has
(05:44):
to determine what he's going to do.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But mcsorly was a well seasoned captain and the coming
storm likely didn't phase him too much, despite some of
the reservations he may have had on the ship.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Mcsorly had been a skipper that had been on the
Great Lakes for years and years and worked his way
up to the Edmon Fitzgerald. He was very stern from
the people that I talked to, very matter of fact guy.
As we talked to a third mate in my documentary
called the Fitzgerald Investigations, he remembered going through a Lake
(06:16):
Superior storm with just ten foot waves, where the Fitzgerald
would flex so crazily, unlike any ship he had been on.
And he looked at McSorley and he said, man, it
should it be bending like this? And McSorley said, sometimes
it scares me so literally. He knew that this ship
was different than other ships. He knew that it would
(06:38):
flex in these storms. But because as a part time
job he did hull inspection, he was very well versed
in the strength of these ships, and he unfortunately pushed
the Fitzgerald way beyond its means. As I did the
investigation documentary, I found the Coastguard looked into it. They
looked at ten years at the Sioux Locks, the worst
(06:58):
storms that ever happened up until nineteen seventy five, and
the one ship that kept pushing every storm and made
it through the locks during those gales was the Edmund Fitzgerald.
So he was a rough weather skipper. He pushed the
heck out of the ship and it eventually broke because
of it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So the Fitzgerald pushed forward and soon they would get
company to ride out the storm with in the form
of the Arthur m Anderson, another Laker captain by Bernie Cooper.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And Cooper also is a You know, these guys are
experienced meteorologists.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
They have to be.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Their lives depend on it, and they start to figure
out when the storm will come and what they're going
to do. As they pass Isle Royal, they've got a
place that they can hide there from these northwest winds
that are starting to build. They continue going, but they
take the northern route. The northern route goes closer to Canada. Jokingly,
some of the sailors call that the scenic route, because
(07:54):
otherwise you might not ever see land as you go
around the keyweaw would be the last spot as you
make that long haul past Marquette and make your way
to the Sioux Locks of Whitefish Bay. But as they're
going up, they go all the way past Otterhead in
a second spot that they could throw out their anchor.
Because it's so close to the Canadian shore, the waves
(08:14):
can't build there, so you're pretty safe. You could wait
it out, But they didn't. They decided they were going
to make it for Whitefish Bay. They thought that the
storm would take an extra hour to get to them,
and they were wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
As they got.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Past Caribou, it was the worst the storm could be
and they were in the absolute worst place they should be,
on Lake Superior, where those winds now could build the
entire length of the lake and crash into the ship
and crash into them in the stern and on their
starboard side. So if they had any problems at all,
they were going to get into real trouble there.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
And that's what happened to Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And you're listening to Rick Mixter tell the story of
the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. As he put it,
how in nineteen seventy five, could you have a seven
hundred and twenty nine foot freighter with twenty nine men
completely vanished. The answer to that question, you'll hear it
after these messages here on our American story, and we
(09:39):
continue with our American stories and our story of the
Edmund Fitzgerald. When we last left off, Captain McSorley and
his crew were battling the brutal storm on Lake Superior
alongside another ship, the Arthur M Anderson. Here's Rick Mixter
with the rest of the story.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
As the fits is going past Caribou, it realizes it
has some kind of problem. They look down the deck
and they could see that at least one of their
vents was missing. These looked like mushrooms that are on
the deck, and they're very large and they're used to
equalize the pressure below decks. But of course fitz has
two thirds of a cargo in there well, as he
noticed that one of those is missing. He also finds
(10:18):
out from his engineers that he's taking on water, so
they're running their pumps to try to keep that water out.
He also mentioned something really unique. He says, our fence
rail is down, and that has been interpreted in a
couple of different ways. The fence rail could be the
guide rails that are on the side of the ship
that perhaps some piece of debris came on smashed its
(10:40):
vent off and also damaged that part of the rail.
So he's radioing back and forth to the Anderson that
he's got these problems, and then all of a sudden
mentions his radars are out, and he was worried because
the Mixorley had noticed.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
That out of Whitefish Bay there were.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Several salt water ships and including a big freighter called
the William clay Ford and another one that we're trying
to get out of Whitefish Bay, and he worried he'd
get into a collision situation in the blinding snow that
was happening, so he asked the Anderson to keep an
eye out for them because his radars were out, so
he's going blindly into this storm. The Anderson is now
(11:18):
trying to close the distance because the Fitzgerald, being a
faster boat, was a or several miles ahead of them.
The last broadcast came from Morgan Clark, the first mate
on board the Anderson, who asked the Fitzgerald, how are
you making out with your problems? And the Fitzgerald McSorley
answered back. We are holding our own, and unfortunately, in
(11:41):
a blinding snow squall, the Fitzgerald disappears. It disappears from
radar because the blinding snow also blinded the radar out.
When it finally clears, Anderson can't see the Fitzgerald. And
now their job is trying to notify the Coastguard that
a seven and twenty nine foot freighter is.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Miss The last time that you talked about them at
what time I want to work? I had, and I
was making out with the problem that he loved those
vans and that he had a loft, and he said
he was holding his own the last time I stopped
with him, that he was holding his own, and that's
the last time I love contact.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
After that, nobody wanted to believe that the Fitzgerald was gone,
especially the coastguards. And we're very lucky that immediately the
coast Guard started recording all of these conversations, so we
actually have the conversations as the cooper is trying to
tell the coast guard that they have missed the Fitzgerald.
(12:40):
So here the Anderson is now making the safety of
Whitefish Bay after now twenty nine guys have been lost
A massive steel modern freighter has been lost to the storm,
and they call the coastguard, who tells them, we don't
have a ship that can go out there. So the
coast guard has to convince the captain of the Anderson
that just went this freighter sinking to turn around, come
(13:02):
out of the safety of Whitefish Bay and go back
into that killer storm. And he definitely did not want
to do that. Right from the radio broadcast, we hear
Cooper say, you know, there's going to be two of us.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
On the bottom.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, he really believed going back out there was
going to be, you know, a bad mistake, but he
knew he was the only choice. So they went back
out there. You know, at that time, it was sixty
mile an hour wins. It was going to take him
two hours to go seventeen miles with those intense winds
that blowing right against them. And I don't think they
(13:35):
believed that anybody would survive it. You know, with big
thirty foot waves and water temperatures that were just above freezing,
there really wasn't much chance. And unfortunately it was a
futile attempt. But I think that that was the spirit
of the lakes. You do what you can first safe
make sure your crew is going to survive it, and
then you know, if you can safely do it, you
(13:57):
go out there and make the rescue. And he did
to the truest tradition of sailors, you know, try to
find those guys. But unfortunately, you know, as we know,
nobody survived and no bodies were found.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Then came the task of actually finding the final resting
place of the Fitzgerald on the bottom of Lake Superior.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It didn't take them very long, so they'd used this
robot called the Curve three to not only find it,
but to secure it. The Curve three came out and
they flew that down to five hundred and fifty feet
and as they saw the bow they noticed it was upright.
But as they went around the stern section, which was
broken over one hundred feet away, they noticed that the
(14:40):
lettering was upside down. And the Coastguard investigators immediately thought
the rov or the robot was inverted, and the pilot said, no,
it's not. This is the back section two hundred feet
of the Edmund Fitzgerald that.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Was upside down.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
So the horrible act of it tearing apart somewhere in
the Mi. The water column actually flipped the entire stern
upside down, and the bow section is resting proudly upright
on the bottom where you can actually see every deck
in the pilot house as well.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And there the Fitzgerald sat a gravesite for her twenty
nine crew, none of which were ever recovered. Immediately, there
were questions on why this modern lake freighter sank, and
these questions still brew today. Did she hit bottom, did
she get hit by a rogue wave, or did her
hatch covers cave in. Answers were hard to find as
(15:34):
the wreck site was soon protected by the Canadian government
at the request of the families of the victims, so
very few people have actually seen the wreck. But in
nineteen ninety four Rick did.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
In ninety four, we took the submersible Delta, which had
been famous for diving the Lusitania, and we went down
in this two man yellow submarine, and I was the
third dive on the Delta expedition. When you dive a shipwreck,
you get down to it. If you're free diving it,
or you're doing it on scuba equipment where you don't
have a submarine around you, you can actually go up
(16:11):
to it and touch it, you know. The cold steel
and the immense size of these vessels is what really
becomes apparent to you. The Fitzgerald was surreal, and the
fact that I was down five hundred feet the lights
stopped at about two hundred and fifty, so it's pitch
black beyond, you know, whatever you have on board your submarine,
which we had lots of lights, so it becomes very surreal.
(16:34):
As you look through the porthole, you can see glimpses
of the ship, but not the whole ship at the
same time, so as we went past the name, the
letters are, you know, over a foot and a half tall.
I'm trying to remember exactly how big they were, but
that's what first captured my mind was it said Edmund Fitzgerald.
And it was horribly torn up on the port side.
(16:56):
So the collision with the bottom had just ripped apart
spar deck from the side of the ship, and the
name had been scratched up and beat up so badly
that it took my breath away. And as we went
around the bow and to see the bow was actually
bent almost ninety degrees, the force of the storm was
(17:16):
just incredible. And then the tiny details as you'd see
a blanket hanging out of the pilot house, or you
go up to the top and you'd see the radars
that were you know, Panasonic on top. It's a plastic
like just a little sliver of plastic ripped off and
the wires were just there. So you start to piece
together the story from that. Each one of those pieces
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not only awed me, but you know, you were just
so excited to see this great shipwreck. And then when
I came up, we actually had a power left in
the submarine, and so it was decided that the owner
of the tugboat who we were renting from WOU would
actually get to take his son down there for a look.
And we're eating lunch and we got a report from
(18:00):
the submarine through the sonaphone the sound waves from the
it's like a radio that goes through water, and we
found out that they found a missing crewman. So we
went from this incredible high of me just visiting the
most famous shipwreck on the Great Lakes, the largest shipwreck
on the Great Lakes at five hundred and fifty feet,
down to a horrible low of oh my god, there
(18:22):
are twenty nine people that were lost there you lose
that connection, I think because you're in the sub and
you're safe when you're diving, it's really apparent that these
shipwrecks are you know, this is a final grave, because
you have this water around you and you've got to
be so careful when you're scuba diving to do that.
I never lost that connection, but I think I did
(18:44):
on the Fitzgerald because I felt so protected in the submarine.
But that immediately was erased when they found a first
missing crewman, a body lying off of the bow of
the shipwreck wearing a life jacket. There's nothing more sobering
than that, and instantly we were transported back to this
is a grave site.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The day after the wreck, the Mariner's Church in Detroit
rang its bell twenty nine times for each of the
crewmen lost, and this ceremony continues in Michigan today of
the ship's actual bell, raised in nineteen ninety five and
kept at Whitefish Point. But for the families of those
lost on November tenth, nineteen seventy five, the Edmund Fitzgerald
(19:40):
is more than just a song. It's a tragedy that
will always be remembered for our American stories I'm Monty Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And great job is always to Monty Montgomery, a terrific
job producing that piece, and special thanks to Rick Mixter, who,
as you can tell, doing what he does is more
than a vocation, it's his life. The story of the
Edmund Fitzgerald here on our American Stories
This is our American Stories, and our next story comes
to us courtesy of Rick Mixter, a shipwreck researcher and
diver who's explored over one hundred and thirty shipwrecks, one
of which is the subject of this story on the
most famous shipwreck on the Great Lakes. Here's our own
Monte Montgomery with a story.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
When we think of the word lake, we often think
of a calm, placid and small body of water. But
the Great Lakes are anything but that.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
People underestimate them, you know it literally, they think they're ponds,
they think that they're you know, they're much smaller than
the ocean. And the truth is that the Great Lakes
span over a thousand miles. You know, Lake Superior is immense,
and unfortunately it has these jagged shoals that, unlike the ocean,
it's confined. So these shoals bounce waves back and forth.
(01:07):
And these confused waves on the Great Lakes tend to
really mess with ships and make it very difficult to
navigate in a storm.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And the results of these confused seas have often been deadly.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
There's a huge argument on how many shipwrecks are on
the Great Lakes because it's really hard to judge. Most
of the time we would put it to insurance settlements.
Let's look at Lloyd's of London or other places that
paid out, but we don't know if they were recovered.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
If you set on.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
The bottom, most people would probably throw out a number
between six thousand and ten thousand shipwrecks that are still
on the bottom.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
But out of all these shipwrecks, there's one that has
been etched into the collective consciousness of the people of
the Great Lakes, the Edmond Fitzgerald. And there's a reason
for that.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Fitzgerald is famous for two words. Gordon Lightfoot. It's literally
a wreck that I think would have been forgotten if
not for a Canadian songwriter who took the story and
turned it into a seven and a half minute song
that went to number two on the charts. And once
that happened, it became enamored not only by the people
(02:17):
of the Great Lakes, it became their song.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Played every November. Every time you.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Turn on the radio, somebody plays it at that time
because of the gales of November, and to remember the crew.
Nobody argues that it's not Gordon Lightfoot. It is the
largest shipwreck on the Great Lakes by a couple hundred feet.
The Fitzgerald was seven hundred and twenty nine feet long
and lost with all hands, which was part of the mystery.
I think that captivated even Gordon Lightfoot, and that's why
(02:46):
it kind of became a story. How in nineteen seventy
five could you have a seven hundred foot freighter with
twenty nine men completely vanished. Fitzgerald was one of the
last of the ships built in Michigan, which we used
to have an amazing ship building prowess. We were number
one on the Great Lakes for years. Just a massive ship.
(03:09):
I mean, it was the flagship for Columbia Transportation. So
when it was launched, not only was she the biggest,
but she was well appointed. She had the best skipper
according to Columbia, the best cook. Because they would entertain
many of the steel companies like National Steels, President or
you know, big wigs would come on board, bring their
family along, and you know, it would have inside jail.
(03:31):
Hudson Company, the famous Hudson Store had all of the
appointments inside, so your beds, all of the furniture which
had to be custom cut to fit the canter of
the floor of the Fitzgerald, which was, you know, slightly rounded,
they had to cut the legs of the beds to
fit correctly. So it was the flagship. It was the
ship that everybody wanted to be assigned to, and it
(03:52):
was certainly the ship that gave out.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Many rides to people. It was also fast.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They called it the Toledo Express because it made that
run so quick.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And for the next seventeen years, the Edmond Fitzgerald would
continue to make that trip from Superior, Wisconsin to Detroit
laden with iron ore, and there was no reason to
expect that on November ninth, nineteen seventy five, her trip
under the command of Captain Ernest McSorley, would go any differently.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It was a Sunday, and it was in Superior, Wisconsin
on a beautiful day, and Jack McCarthy, the first may
would be in charge of telling the guys, you know,
the loading, make sure that the ship was loaded evenly,
in which they would go underneath a gravity fed doc
and it would actually spill these round taconite pellets into
the cargo hold, which they took twenty six thousand tons.
(04:41):
This is where Gordon Lightfoot was wrong on a couple
of accounts. In his song he said fully loaded for Cleveland,
but it wasn't fully loaded. It was less than two
thirds loaded because she was actually going to River Rouge
that near the area to the Zug Island, and in
order to get into that slip, she couldn't carry all
of for cargo because she would hit bottom in the
(05:02):
Detroit River. So not fully loaded, not going to Cleveland,
actually going into the Detroit area with a load of
iron ore that would eventually become automobiles. And they take
off into a beautiful day, and as they do, McSorley
in the pilot house actually sees that a big storm
is coming up. He's got a radio that he can
get reports through, and he's a weather ship, so he
(05:23):
takes his observations and adds them to the weather reports
to help forecasters try to develop where the storm's going
to go. And it's quickly ascertained that he's going to
get a storm that's going to come right through from
Oklahoma all the way up to Marquette, and so he
starts to calculate how long that would take and uses
the forecast that he's getting given as well and has
(05:44):
to determine what he's going to do.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But mcsorly was a well seasoned captain and the coming
storm likely didn't phase him too much, despite some of
the reservations he may have had on the ship.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Mcsorly had been a skipper that had been on the
Great Lakes for years and years and worked his way
up to the Edmon Fitzgerald. He was very stern from
the people that I talked to, very matter of fact guy.
As we talked to a third mate in my documentary
called the Fitzgerald Investigations, he remembered going through a Lake
(06:16):
Superior storm with just ten foot waves, where the Fitzgerald
would flex so crazily, unlike any ship he had been on.
And he looked at McSorley and he said, man, it
should it be bending like this? And McSorley said, sometimes
it scares me so literally. He knew that this ship
was different than other ships. He knew that it would
(06:38):
flex in these storms. But because as a part time
job he did hull inspection, he was very well versed
in the strength of these ships, and he unfortunately pushed
the Fitzgerald way beyond its means. As I did the
investigation documentary, I found the Coastguard looked into it. They
looked at ten years at the Sioux Locks, the worst
(06:58):
storms that ever happened up until nineteen seventy five, and
the one ship that kept pushing every storm and made
it through the locks during those gales was the Edmund Fitzgerald.
So he was a rough weather skipper. He pushed the
heck out of the ship and it eventually broke because
of it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So the Fitzgerald pushed forward and soon they would get
company to ride out the storm with in the form
of the Arthur m Anderson, another Laker captain by Bernie Cooper.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And Cooper also is a You know, these guys are
experienced meteorologists.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
They have to be.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Their lives depend on it, and they start to figure
out when the storm will come and what they're going
to do. As they pass Isle Royal, they've got a
place that they can hide there from these northwest winds
that are starting to build. They continue going, but they
take the northern route. The northern route goes closer to Canada. Jokingly,
some of the sailors call that the scenic route, because
(07:54):
otherwise you might not ever see land as you go
around the keyweaw would be the last spot as you
make that long haul past Marquette and make your way
to the Sioux Locks of Whitefish Bay. But as they're
going up, they go all the way past Otterhead in
a second spot that they could throw out their anchor.
Because it's so close to the Canadian shore, the waves
(08:14):
can't build there, so you're pretty safe. You could wait
it out, But they didn't. They decided they were going
to make it for Whitefish Bay. They thought that the
storm would take an extra hour to get to them,
and they were wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
As they got.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Past Caribou, it was the worst the storm could be
and they were in the absolute worst place they should be,
on Lake Superior, where those winds now could build the
entire length of the lake and crash into the ship
and crash into them in the stern and on their
starboard side. So if they had any problems at all,
they were going to get into real trouble there.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
And that's what happened to Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And you're listening to Rick Mixter tell the story of
the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. As he put it,
how in nineteen seventy five, could you have a seven
hundred and twenty nine foot freighter with twenty nine men
completely vanished. The answer to that question, you'll hear it
after these messages here on our American story, and we
(09:39):
continue with our American stories and our story of the
Edmund Fitzgerald. When we last left off, Captain McSorley and
his crew were battling the brutal storm on Lake Superior
alongside another ship, the Arthur M Anderson. Here's Rick Mixter
with the rest of the story.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
As the fits is going past Caribou, it realizes it
has some kind of problem. They look down the deck
and they could see that at least one of their
vents was missing. These looked like mushrooms that are on
the deck, and they're very large and they're used to
equalize the pressure below decks. But of course fitz has
two thirds of a cargo in there well, as he
noticed that one of those is missing. He also finds
(10:18):
out from his engineers that he's taking on water, so
they're running their pumps to try to keep that water out.
He also mentioned something really unique. He says, our fence
rail is down, and that has been interpreted in a
couple of different ways. The fence rail could be the
guide rails that are on the side of the ship
that perhaps some piece of debris came on smashed its
(10:40):
vent off and also damaged that part of the rail.
So he's radioing back and forth to the Anderson that
he's got these problems, and then all of a sudden
mentions his radars are out, and he was worried because
the Mixorley had noticed.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
That out of Whitefish Bay there were.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Several salt water ships and including a big freighter called
the William clay Ford and another one that we're trying
to get out of Whitefish Bay, and he worried he'd
get into a collision situation in the blinding snow that
was happening, so he asked the Anderson to keep an
eye out for them because his radars were out, so
he's going blindly into this storm. The Anderson is now
(11:18):
trying to close the distance because the Fitzgerald, being a
faster boat, was a or several miles ahead of them.
The last broadcast came from Morgan Clark, the first mate
on board the Anderson, who asked the Fitzgerald, how are
you making out with your problems? And the Fitzgerald McSorley
answered back. We are holding our own, and unfortunately, in
(11:41):
a blinding snow squall, the Fitzgerald disappears. It disappears from
radar because the blinding snow also blinded the radar out.
When it finally clears, Anderson can't see the Fitzgerald. And
now their job is trying to notify the Coastguard that
a seven and twenty nine foot freighter is.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Miss The last time that you talked about them at
what time I want to work? I had, and I
was making out with the problem that he loved those
vans and that he had a loft, and he said
he was holding his own the last time I stopped
with him, that he was holding his own, and that's
the last time I love contact.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
After that, nobody wanted to believe that the Fitzgerald was gone,
especially the coastguards. And we're very lucky that immediately the
coast Guard started recording all of these conversations, so we
actually have the conversations as the cooper is trying to
tell the coast guard that they have missed the Fitzgerald.
(12:40):
So here the Anderson is now making the safety of
Whitefish Bay after now twenty nine guys have been lost
A massive steel modern freighter has been lost to the storm,
and they call the coastguard, who tells them, we don't
have a ship that can go out there. So the
coast guard has to convince the captain of the Anderson
that just went this freighter sinking to turn around, come
(13:02):
out of the safety of Whitefish Bay and go back
into that killer storm. And he definitely did not want
to do that. Right from the radio broadcast, we hear
Cooper say, you know, there's going to be two of us.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
On the bottom.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, he really believed going back out there was
going to be, you know, a bad mistake, but he
knew he was the only choice. So they went back
out there. You know, at that time, it was sixty
mile an hour wins. It was going to take him
two hours to go seventeen miles with those intense winds
that blowing right against them. And I don't think they
(13:35):
believed that anybody would survive it. You know, with big
thirty foot waves and water temperatures that were just above freezing,
there really wasn't much chance. And unfortunately it was a
futile attempt. But I think that that was the spirit
of the lakes. You do what you can first safe
make sure your crew is going to survive it, and
then you know, if you can safely do it, you
(13:57):
go out there and make the rescue. And he did
to the truest tradition of sailors, you know, try to
find those guys. But unfortunately, you know, as we know,
nobody survived and no bodies were found.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Then came the task of actually finding the final resting
place of the Fitzgerald on the bottom of Lake Superior.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It didn't take them very long, so they'd used this
robot called the Curve three to not only find it,
but to secure it. The Curve three came out and
they flew that down to five hundred and fifty feet
and as they saw the bow they noticed it was upright.
But as they went around the stern section, which was
broken over one hundred feet away, they noticed that the
(14:40):
lettering was upside down. And the Coastguard investigators immediately thought
the rov or the robot was inverted, and the pilot said, no,
it's not. This is the back section two hundred feet
of the Edmund Fitzgerald that.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Was upside down.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
So the horrible act of it tearing apart somewhere in
the Mi. The water column actually flipped the entire stern
upside down, and the bow section is resting proudly upright
on the bottom where you can actually see every deck
in the pilot house as well.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And there the Fitzgerald sat a gravesite for her twenty
nine crew, none of which were ever recovered. Immediately, there
were questions on why this modern lake freighter sank, and
these questions still brew today. Did she hit bottom, did
she get hit by a rogue wave, or did her
hatch covers cave in. Answers were hard to find as
(15:34):
the wreck site was soon protected by the Canadian government
at the request of the families of the victims, so
very few people have actually seen the wreck. But in
nineteen ninety four Rick did.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
In ninety four, we took the submersible Delta, which had
been famous for diving the Lusitania, and we went down
in this two man yellow submarine, and I was the
third dive on the Delta expedition. When you dive a shipwreck,
you get down to it. If you're free diving it,
or you're doing it on scuba equipment where you don't
have a submarine around you, you can actually go up
(16:11):
to it and touch it, you know. The cold steel
and the immense size of these vessels is what really
becomes apparent to you. The Fitzgerald was surreal, and the
fact that I was down five hundred feet the lights
stopped at about two hundred and fifty, so it's pitch
black beyond, you know, whatever you have on board your submarine,
which we had lots of lights, so it becomes very surreal.
(16:34):
As you look through the porthole, you can see glimpses
of the ship, but not the whole ship at the
same time, so as we went past the name, the
letters are, you know, over a foot and a half tall.
I'm trying to remember exactly how big they were, but
that's what first captured my mind was it said Edmund Fitzgerald.
And it was horribly torn up on the port side.
(16:56):
So the collision with the bottom had just ripped apart
spar deck from the side of the ship, and the
name had been scratched up and beat up so badly
that it took my breath away. And as we went
around the bow and to see the bow was actually
bent almost ninety degrees, the force of the storm was
(17:16):
just incredible. And then the tiny details as you'd see
a blanket hanging out of the pilot house, or you
go up to the top and you'd see the radars
that were you know, Panasonic on top. It's a plastic
like just a little sliver of plastic ripped off and
the wires were just there. So you start to piece
together the story from that. Each one of those pieces
(17:38):
not only awed me, but you know, you were just
so excited to see this great shipwreck. And then when
I came up, we actually had a power left in
the submarine, and so it was decided that the owner
of the tugboat who we were renting from WOU would
actually get to take his son down there for a look.
And we're eating lunch and we got a report from
(18:00):
the submarine through the sonaphone the sound waves from the
it's like a radio that goes through water, and we
found out that they found a missing crewman. So we
went from this incredible high of me just visiting the
most famous shipwreck on the Great Lakes, the largest shipwreck
on the Great Lakes at five hundred and fifty feet,
down to a horrible low of oh my god, there
(18:22):
are twenty nine people that were lost there you lose
that connection, I think because you're in the sub and
you're safe when you're diving, it's really apparent that these
shipwrecks are you know, this is a final grave, because
you have this water around you and you've got to
be so careful when you're scuba diving to do that.
I never lost that connection, but I think I did
(18:44):
on the Fitzgerald because I felt so protected in the submarine.
But that immediately was erased when they found a first
missing crewman, a body lying off of the bow of
the shipwreck wearing a life jacket. There's nothing more sobering
than that, and instantly we were transported back to this
is a grave site.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The day after the wreck, the Mariner's Church in Detroit
rang its bell twenty nine times for each of the
crewmen lost, and this ceremony continues in Michigan today of
the ship's actual bell, raised in nineteen ninety five and
kept at Whitefish Point. But for the families of those
lost on November tenth, nineteen seventy five, the Edmund Fitzgerald
(19:40):
is more than just a song. It's a tragedy that
will always be remembered for our American stories I'm Monty Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And great job is always to Monty Montgomery, a terrific
job producing that piece, and special thanks to Rick Mixter, who,
as you can tell, doing what he does is more
than a vocation, it's his life. The story of the
Edmund Fitzgerald here on our American Stories
Host
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