April 17, 2025 • 22 mins
As the 2025 NFL Draft approaches, draft prospect Travis Hunter says he wants to play both offense and defense or he'll quit football entirely. Covino & Rich highlight some of the best multi-faceted all-around players in sports. Big Cat at Barstool gets lucky with a viral NBA rookie card. And as Covino & Rich's Yankees & Mets bet continues, Jazz Chisholm and Aaron Judge reveal they have their own bet going based on stats. C&R discuss the importance of a wager amongst friends
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yeah, another bonus pod with your buddies, Cadino and Rich
Action packed week how we filled in for Dan Patrick.
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Rich wherever you stream. But normally we're on Monday through Friday,
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the West. Fox Sports Radio, And anytime we do the show,
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
And it's a passover. It's Easter weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
At Easter weekend, got ans it the one time of
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That would be extra wasteful this season, right, extra expensive.
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and Rich celebrating. But on today's show, again the stuff
we can't fit into our regular show. We'll talk some
baseball cards, throw it back on this Thursday, will talk
some fun bets, right, how to get into the season,
make it more fun. But we're gonna start it off
with Travis Hunter. Oh yeah, there's a story. And listen,
you could say this is BS and this kid's gonna
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play no matter what. He's a star, superstar. But the
question came about what if a team drafts you and says, hey, buddy,
boy can't play both sides of the ball. We're gonna
pick offense or defense. We're not doing this both sides
of the ball. Craziness. And if anyone says, well, what
about Otani? I mean, football is so much more of
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an exhausting and physical sport and more dangerous, so you
got to pick a side. Stop being greedy man. You
could argue he was, you know, full of shit when
he said this, but he goes, well, maybe it don't
mean I'll never play football again because I've been doing
it my whole life and I love being on the
football field. I feel like I could dominate on each
side of the ball, so I really enjoyed doing it.
And on the surface, people are saying it feels like,
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you know, like idle chatter. But they're saying he's serious,
that he's talked to teams and said, if you draft me,
I don't want to be a one side guy. Well,
I love the attitude, I love what he's saying, but
it just doesn't seem possible. It also seems like it'll
cut his career shorter, right, Like, but I seem much
teams could you know, drop some packages where on the offense.
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But also you know defender's not every play calls for
him to be on the field. O bam, that's it.
It'll be a little combination, a little hybrid of both.
I'm cool with that. In fact, high five because that's
the answer in this National High five Day. Everybody and
we know all know the origin, right We talked about
it on our show earlier on Fox Sports Radio, Glenn Burke,
Dusty Baker, nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
High five.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
They invented the high five became a thing. So based
on the whole Travis Hunter story. By the way, shout
out to Travis Matthew. Look at this band boy, right,
Travis Matthew, the MLB collection. Let's go Yankees Hunter. Yeah,
back to Travis Hunter. It got us thinking about the
greatest athletes of all time, not just the greatest two
way players, just the greatest all out athletes. But you
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have to start off with the guy I referenced before. Well,
Otani plays both sides of the ball. He's the current
day Babe Ruth. He is automatically in this conversation. Then again,
like I said, baseball much different than football. He's one
of the best to ever do it. He's playing like
a little leaguer in the big leagues. Did you see
the home running hit last night at Dodger Stadium against
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the Rockies. This thing may have gone out of the
stadium right field. The guy hits bombs and then you forget,
oh yeah, when he's ready to pitch again. He's a
cy young candidate. It's something we've never seen before. So
when people say, oh, him and Baby Ruth, I think
it's more elite than Baby Ruth. Back then, Baby Ruth
is playing against other fat white guys. Otani is playing
a global game now and proving it on both sides
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of the ball. Otani can't eat hot dogs to wag
the baby.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Maybe that's the only thing.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But Otani is in this conversation, then automatically your mind
goes to one of the greatest athletes of all time.
We were honored to watch him, and he was great
in two different sports, probably great and everything. Bo knew everything. Yeah,
Bo Jackson is automatically in this conversation. We all had
that poster and he transcended fandom. Because I wasn't a
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Royals fan. I wasn't a Raiders fan. I was a
bo Jackson and we all were. And you know what,
it's the shame of it is that because he never
won a championship or an MVP, A lot of people
say younger generations will never be aware enough of how great.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But that's our jackson was.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's our job as adults and his parents to pass
on the info. That's why we're bringing it up here.
But again, there's a lot of people that played more
than one sport, but he was great at baseball and
football and All Star in both. Can I also just
say that we're keeping this to contemporary athletes because I
know when we're done with this is gonna be guys
are like.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
What about Jim Thorpe and Jim Brown.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm not talking about people like from our parents and grandparents' days.
I'm talking about likely more in our lifetime. I will
let you know what chat GPT said, because I did
ask right before we started. Now we're going AI, yeah, yeah, yeah,
what does chat GPT say about? Well, how about prime
time Deon Sanders. We're about to see his kid join
the NFL, But what about him when he made a
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difference in the NFL whether it was on the Cowboys
or the Niners, and then playing.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Baseball Braves Yankee's he played a bunch of places.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So just an amazing career, an amazing athlete and speed kills.
It killed on the diamond, he was hitting inside the park,
home runs and you know, scoring touchdowns. He did it all,
and he did it all on the same day sometimes,
so legend when it comes to great athletes, and a
lot of times when you think about our childhood eighties
and nineties, we talk about Bo Jackson, Primetime, Dean Sanders.
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There's a guy that gets left out of this conversation,
and it's a damn shame because while he wasn't their
star level, Brian Jordan's amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I remember thinking, like.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Wait, you mean the Brian Jordan from the Braves is
also the Brian Jordan that's he was on the Falcons
at one point, right, he was on the Bills and
the Falcons. I take a lot of pride in bringing
this up because he's so often left out of the conversation.
Guy played for the Cardinals, the Braves, the Dodgers, and
the Rangers, but he was a Bill and a Falcon.
Like what an amazing career. You can't be left out
of this conversation if you're talking about great athletes, because
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he did it and all these places at a really
high level. Yeah he wasn't Bo Jackson, but what an
amazing guy.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Brian Jordan.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
The next one is interesting to me because this is
rarely seen. I remember this being such a cool thing.
All right, this guy was an elite college quarterback. That's
how most people remember him. But then he opted I
don't think my game will translate to the NFL. Hey,
but you know what I think I could play in
the NBA, and that was Charlie Ward.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You might say Florida State, or do you think New
York Knicks.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Because New York Nick. What a wild story he had.
He also played for the Rockets and the Spurs. But yeah,
he was an NBA player, superstar college football quarterback and
belongs in this conversation. Some of these names aren't brought
up enough, and then it brings me to other names
that just have to be mentioned. If we're going to
talk about the greatest athletes, it is I mean, not
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many athletes were drafted in more than two sports. Dave
Winfield drafted football, baseball and basketball, and decided to play baseball,
you have picked the Padres. I picked the Yankees to
pick the Padres just.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
To make you mad. No, because I pictured Davie.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
He actually did with those. And I always said Dave
Winfield was so big that even the clubhouse didn't have
the proper size, because I felt like he always had
like a snug jersey. And I'm like, I think it's
because he's just so damn big and ripped. And another
former Yankee kind of John Elway has to be brought
up because it's crazy when you think about he could
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have been in the lineup with Don Mattingley playing right field.
It's interesting because if you watch the docu series thirty
for thirty on ESPN, the one where it was from
Elway to Marino when John Away said, hey, listen, I'm
not going to play for the shitty Baltimore Colts Baltimore
at the time, if you draft me, I'm not playing football.
I'm gonna go play for George Steinbrunner in the Bronx.
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And then you know, of course, he ended up on
the Broncos. But there was a time where John Alway
was scheduled in the lineup as a Yankee amazing. Gotta
mention Tom Brady, not just the football player the Montreal Expo,
because I always thought that was great how Tom Brady
had some baseball skills. In fact, his siblings, all the
sisters were great softball players. So Tom Brady was just
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an all round athlete, and.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It was cool to see that.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know, he loves signing those expos cards at chos
and stuff, and most recently you see his love of
baseball when he's showing off his baseball card collection and
all that he had to all the same cards we had.
And who else comes to mind, Rich Russell Wilson. Maybe
I would say, you gotta throw Russ and we can
zip past Russ. And then of course Kyler Murray, two
NFL quarterbacks that we both know that like could have
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played baseball. Had they opted Kyler Murray, Arizona Arizona Cardinals
could have been in Oakland, A but a longer path.
That's really what it was and what it came down to.
And Russ we all know was a baseball player. He
took some VP at Yankee Stadium. He was in the
CUB system, I believe, right, So yeah, and paying homage
to Bo Jackson, right, there and before we started this conversation,
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I quickly again, based on this whole Travis Hunter conversation,
I went to chat GPT and I said, who is
the greatest athlete of all time? And I was like, ooh,
fun debate. And aside from a lot of the names
that we already mentioned, here's some that we left out.
Michael Jordan came up, Serena Williams Bolt files and it
(10:16):
does say Jim Thorpe Bridge and you referenced that Jim
was a gold pentathlon winner, the kathlon winner. He played
pro football, baseball, and basketball. But I did find it
interesting that a lot of the names we discussed, including
those were mentioned. But no Lebron Lebron. Yes, he's not
a fan of Lebron. We know he could have been
(10:38):
a tight end in the NFL, right, Jerry Jones said,
open contract whenever he wants. But this Travis Hunter story
still developing, could be cool. And I like that he's
so adamant about playing both sides. His heart's in the game. Clearly.
Let me ask you, you have a daughter who's big
into the cheer scene. Yeah, do you do you feel
like one star one sport athletes is the rage. Now
(11:02):
that's a constant debate just on parenting alone. It's like,
do you spread your kid thin and try all different things?
Do you put their focus on one sports. It's a
tough debate. And by the way, I'll go back to
what spots just put up. The GM of the Cleveland Browns,
one of the teams that could be in the running
for Travis Hunter, did say he's very otani like. So
(11:23):
maybe maybe Travis Hunter hears that he goes all right, Cleveland,
I'll say.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Show hey, Tony Ohny.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But if you know, I'm torn with that now as
a dad who coaches little kids, if you skip one season,
like if I took my daughter out of softball for
one season, what and here in La we play fall ball, summer, winter, spring,
everything I took out for one three month period to
try soccer, she goes back to softball. Those kids have advanced.
But then you're like, what do you your kid's not
(11:52):
supposed to try everything? Yes, Like do you want to
be well rounded or really just great at one thing
or you're focused on one thing? So that is our
list of the best just all around athletes current day.
Did we forget anybody? Who do you think is number one.
Hit us up at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio,
and one week from today we'll be watching the NFL
(12:14):
Draft and we'll see where Travis hunters. We'll see where
cam Ward and Shador Sanders and all these young kids
play next year in the NFL. All right, now, you're
a big baseball card guy. I know you take a
pride in your collection. You met my Billy Ripkin error card.
You mentioned love the nub of the bat face. You
mentioned Tom Brady and how Tom Brady was recently showing
(12:35):
off his eighties collection.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Because we're around the same age as Tom. He was
showing off his mid.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Eighties cards like oh, eighty five tops in eighty four
and eighty six. Yeah, those jose Canseco eighty seven's. I
saw him there. Barstool, I'm a big fan of what
they do. In fact, next week, I'm pretty sure we're
gonna have KFC from Barstool on over promised Big Cat,
who one of the biggest dudes in sports media. Big
Cat or Barstool was doing the opening of an old
(13:02):
pack of cards. Now the question is this, if I
told you Cavino, here's a pack of cards from the
eighties you might have you might have a winner in here,
or it could be all bums. This pack of cards
seven hundred bucks just one pack. We've seen this with like,
(13:22):
you know, like some old granny, like I found an
unopen pack of nineteen fifty six tops and you're like,
I remember there was a thing where people were bidding
like twelve hundred bucks. Like, would you buy an eighties
pack of NBA cards for seven hundred to one thousand
dollars if there was a chance Michael Jordan was in it?
How much seven let's say, seven hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Fifty bucks right the pack?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, I would take that chance. I was exciting. That's
a lot of money. I'm not trying to say I'm
Daddy Stacks, but for the fun of it, that could
be cool. Yeah, look at this video again. Props to barstool.
Big cat is doing this. He bought a pack. I
believe it. They'll say, there eighty six fleeer, eighty five fleer.
Take a look at this unopening of cards.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You're just disgusted with yourself. It's going one card by
one card?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Look at this? What what? Oh oh my god, wait.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
What is it? Slow way? You got the Jordan rooky
fucking pull to Jordan Lucky in mint condition. If it's.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Come on, let me see.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Say, get asleep, don't touch it, don't touch it? What
give me?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And Lucky McAfee's out there because he doesn't have any sleep. Shitay,
So I bring this up because that card, fucking god,
if it's if it's a beat up, shitty card, it's
like twenty thirty grand mint condition, seven hundred to a
million dollars. That's incredible. So obviously has to get it graded.
I want to hear the update. I'm surprised he didn't.
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I'm out of his seat though he was excited, But
how do you just sit there? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That is a wild man.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I love that. I know you're a big baseball it's
so hard guy, but imagine, imagine you get an old
pack of cards and it's like the long shot, and
you know, congrats to big cat.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's a great moment. Rich wanted to surprise me with that,
and you know what, I did see it, but I
didn't know what it was all about, and I scrolled
right past it. That's a good one. Congrats to him.
What a pull man. That's really cool to say, really
cool to say, I love that, but I also love
when people find these unopened packs, like they're doing construction
at a house and under wall, the steps are in
the wall. It's like a pack from nineteen fifty two
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or fifty three, and that's pretty awesome. Congrats. I say
this often, and I never stand by my own words.
I'm one of those guys that says some shit, but
I don't do it myself. Yeah, I often say, why
not every year of your life, when you're at the pharmacy, Target, Walmart,
buy a couple of packs, tuck them away somewhere in
twenty five years, just for shits and giggles. Be like,
(16:02):
hey kid, your son might be growing up, your nephew
or someone. Be like, uncle Rich has something insane. Imagine
if you did that all throughout the two thousands. You
do that lots of stuff. Imagine if you did it
with a cell phone, the original iPhone in its packaging. Yeah,
it's worth it's a much mone hundreds of thousand dollars.
So we just don't have that wherewithal usually don't, or
maybe just the money like to spend that extra money out.
(16:22):
Maybe it's but you can do that with some baseball
card your gratification. What if, not being serious, what if
over the last twenty years, you just randomly would pull
a card, no poll pack, don't open it, put it
away for later. Oh you know, you would have got
maybe a honest rookie or a lebron rookie year.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I do have some boxes still unopened in storage. Maybe
I'll bring them in one day with cards or value
in no, no, no of cards. I just don't know if
there's anything of value from those years that I have,
because once it hit like ninety ninety one, then they
really were over mass producing, not worth a live But
Danny g Our, producer on the day to day Fox
(17:00):
Sports show, Danny g when we first started doing the
show together, you know, he bought me for my birthday
a show heil tany rookie card and I looked it
up and it's worth like three hundred bucks now because
when he when when we first start working together, Otani
was a rookie in Anaheim and he's like, rich, I
got you this for your birthday. I have it in
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a case. It's jem mint rated everything, and I have
it read over here.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And you know, show you.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's because they stepped their game up. If you look
here at Danny, you got me just too. It's a
Don Manningly card, but again it has a piece of
his uniform in it. Tops has those rookie debut cards
with the patches. But baseball cards have stepped their game
up so and that's amazing. Courtesy dropped the Buddy, Danny G.
I got trad Just Manningly for that Atani rookie courtesy
(17:49):
of Danny G. Dude, what a gift time, dah Man.
I'm jealous now, That's what I'm saying, though at the
time probably cost him a couple of bucks to be
a nice friend. I'll trade you that Manningly and this
be for that old tany the beat and the beat,
and you know I'll up the any trap jaw on
a throwback Thursday trapjaw from he Man from he Man
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messall pass on that damn dude that sucks now anyway,
that's a great pole. I'll tie it in here. Maybe
you could buy it from me if you win your bet.
Comino and I have a fun just Mets Yankees bet
going on this year. We bet handshake thousand dollars Mets
versus Yankees.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Who has a better record.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Remember there's a lot of animosity leading into the season
with the whole Wan Soto thing, and I'm mad at
the Mets and mad at Soto, and which is like, hey,
put money on it, who has the best record? It
is one thousand bucks straight up for the best record.
But then then we then we said for each game,
the winning team is better at one hundred. So let's
say the Yankees are six games better than the Mets.
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I don't know, this guy's sixteen hundred bucks. And right now,
as of now Thursday, April seventeenth, Easter weekend is dead
even eleven and eleven and seven eleven. So it's so cool.
But this little friendly bet we made, we made it
on the air, people could play along, has really kept
me glued even more on what the Mets are doing,
(19:10):
and my rooting interest has significantly increased. Now we're not
breaking the glass. When you got action on the games, yeah,
it's a little more exciting. Then you wonder why I
like the action on some NFL football no matter what
the game is, It just makes it more interesting. I
also think it's been fun for our camaraderie because I'm
really rooting against the Mets. I even went to a
Mets game with you recently hoping they lose. And it's
(19:30):
got me invested so much more So, just got us
thinking about some friendly bets. And coincidentally, today a story
broke that Jazz Chisholm and Aaron Judge have a friendly
bet amongst each other going on and they're calling it
the home run stolen base bet. Oh I'm reporting this
to Rob Manford. I hope they both get suspended and
(19:53):
banned from baseball for gambling. Oh, we didn't say that
there was any currency involved it friendly.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I rand the point, though, but I think this is great.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Jazz also thinks it should be a stat though, so
that's part of the story that he thinks home run
plus stolen bases hrs plus sb's should be an actual stat.
But if you want to read it, here's the bet
that he has with Judge. He goes, we'll call it
the home run SB and the Mattha's easy home runs
plus stolen bases. I think I'm beating him right now,
says Chisholm. We both got to add him up. You
(20:21):
know how they say OPS is on base plus slugging.
This is home runs plus stolen bases. You know, and
right now as you speak, I looked it up myself. Okay,
Jazz has six home runs for stolen bases, so he's
at ten. Judge seven bombs, two stolen bases nine, so
he's beating Judge ten to nine. That's fun. Man.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I looked up there all time highs.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, Aaron, Judge one year had a total of seventy
eight and Jazz is all time combined.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is sixty four. Oh wow, So but that was Judge's
sixty two home run year.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
By the way, Judge just went ten games without hitting
a home run until yesterday. So it's a fun, friendly
bet and just like it, got Rich night more engaged.
I imagine that only helps not only their chemistry, but they
want to beat each other. And I think everybody needs
that friendly wager, that friendly competition to keep things exciting,
to keep it going, pushing yourself to take things further.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Does show?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Hey, Ani, does Atani beat everyone in this particular contest
by twenty five? Have to I mean fifty to fifty. Guy,
He's like tailor made for the stats. That's what I'm
saying is even if these guys, let's say Judge hit
sixty home runs, it's like fifteen twenty stone bases. I
think Otani beats everyone in this category by twenty five.
(21:36):
Hold on, though, and although I think this is a
lot of fun amongst teammates, don't you think there is
something to be said when you think of all these
stupid stats that you can't even follow, do you think
it's a pretty good one because those are significant numbers?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You know, if we put so much so much emphasis
on fifty to fifty, shouldn't that be a stat You
know what what stat gets a you meant say it
does good emphasis. I'm a big fan of on base
percentage because some times you'll see a guy and you're like, oh,
he's bett in two eighty five nowadays is.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Great in baseball nowadays? Yes, super.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
But if a guy has been in twenty five but
his on base percentage is like three hundred, guy doesn't
get on base. He just he's not walking like like
a guy like Sodo.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know my guy. Now you don't love Soda, but.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Wan Sodo's the guy that even when he's bett in
two sixty somehow, is on base percentage is like four
thirty there's guys that know how to get on base,
and I think that's one of those valuable stats that
we don't talk enough about, on base percentage. Remember Barry
Bonds during his prime years, he was getting on base
like six out of ten times. He's walking all the time,
and when he was connecting, it was out of the park.
So amazing to look back and thank you guys again
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for hanging out with him. Hey, enjoy your Eastern die
those eggs. See the easter bunny. Happy holiday weekend. Uh Hey,
pass over Easter. Enjoy a riven there at you baby,
see you in the over. Promise later better
Yeah, another bonus pod with your buddies, Cadino and Rich
Action packed week how we filled in for Dan Patrick.
You missed it to Dan Patrick hat trick, catch it
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it just means the weekends here.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And it's a passover. It's Easter weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
At Easter weekend, got ans it the one time of
year you and your family hard boiled eggs and you'll go,
we'll eat them, and you're like, I know we won't.
That would be extra wasteful this season, right, extra expensive.
But you got to keep that Pause company in business,
because what do they do other than Easter egg dye?
Are you a pause guy or a Dudley guy? Lots
of easter brands pause and shout out to my peeps,
(00:53):
and stay away from those Cadbury crack eggs. They're like,
crack those devil eggs. But besides our show, I have
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And if you can only make it one day, the
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and all that. But the twentieth through the twenty second
in June, we hope to see you there. Bring some
friends and join us. Details to come at Covino and
Rich at Fox Sports Radio, on social media. They'll be food,
they'll be drinks, they'll be partying, they'll be fun, they'll
be hookers. Well I'm kidding, just kidding, it's gonna be
a lot of fun. Look at that artwork. Welcome Cavino
(01:35):
and Rich celebrating. But on today's show, again the stuff
we can't fit into our regular show. We'll talk some
baseball cards, throw it back on this Thursday, will talk
some fun bets, right, how to get into the season,
make it more fun. But we're gonna start it off
with Travis Hunter. Oh yeah, there's a story. And listen,
you could say this is BS and this kid's gonna
(01:57):
play no matter what. He's a star, superstar. But the
question came about what if a team drafts you and says, hey, buddy,
boy can't play both sides of the ball. We're gonna
pick offense or defense. We're not doing this both sides
of the ball. Craziness. And if anyone says, well, what
about Otani? I mean, football is so much more of
(02:18):
an exhausting and physical sport and more dangerous, so you
got to pick a side. Stop being greedy man. You
could argue he was, you know, full of shit when
he said this, but he goes, well, maybe it don't
mean I'll never play football again because I've been doing
it my whole life and I love being on the
football field. I feel like I could dominate on each
side of the ball, so I really enjoyed doing it.
And on the surface, people are saying it feels like,
(02:39):
you know, like idle chatter. But they're saying he's serious,
that he's talked to teams and said, if you draft me,
I don't want to be a one side guy. Well,
I love the attitude, I love what he's saying, but
it just doesn't seem possible. It also seems like it'll
cut his career shorter, right, Like, but I seem much
teams could you know, drop some packages where on the offense.
(03:00):
But also you know defender's not every play calls for
him to be on the field. O bam, that's it.
It'll be a little combination, a little hybrid of both.
I'm cool with that. In fact, high five because that's
the answer in this National High five Day. Everybody and
we know all know the origin, right We talked about
it on our show earlier on Fox Sports Radio, Glenn Burke,
Dusty Baker, nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
High five.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
They invented the high five became a thing. So based
on the whole Travis Hunter story. By the way, shout
out to Travis Matthew. Look at this band boy, right,
Travis Matthew, the MLB collection. Let's go Yankees Hunter. Yeah,
back to Travis Hunter. It got us thinking about the
greatest athletes of all time, not just the greatest two
way players, just the greatest all out athletes. But you
(03:45):
have to start off with the guy I referenced before. Well,
Otani plays both sides of the ball. He's the current
day Babe Ruth. He is automatically in this conversation. Then again,
like I said, baseball much different than football. He's one
of the best to ever do it. He's playing like
a little leaguer in the big leagues. Did you see
the home running hit last night at Dodger Stadium against
(04:05):
the Rockies. This thing may have gone out of the
stadium right field. The guy hits bombs and then you forget,
oh yeah, when he's ready to pitch again. He's a
cy young candidate. It's something we've never seen before. So
when people say, oh, him and Baby Ruth, I think
it's more elite than Baby Ruth. Back then, Baby Ruth
is playing against other fat white guys. Otani is playing
a global game now and proving it on both sides
(04:26):
of the ball. Otani can't eat hot dogs to wag
the baby.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Maybe that's the only thing.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But Otani is in this conversation, then automatically your mind
goes to one of the greatest athletes of all time.
We were honored to watch him, and he was great
in two different sports, probably great and everything. Bo knew everything. Yeah,
Bo Jackson is automatically in this conversation. We all had
that poster and he transcended fandom. Because I wasn't a
(04:56):
Royals fan. I wasn't a Raiders fan. I was a
bo Jackson and we all were. And you know what,
it's the shame of it is that because he never
won a championship or an MVP, A lot of people
say younger generations will never be aware enough of how great.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But that's our jackson was.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's our job as adults and his parents to pass
on the info. That's why we're bringing it up here.
But again, there's a lot of people that played more
than one sport, but he was great at baseball and
football and All Star in both. Can I also just
say that we're keeping this to contemporary athletes because I
know when we're done with this is gonna be guys
are like.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
What about Jim Thorpe and Jim Brown.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm not talking about people like from our parents and grandparents' days.
I'm talking about likely more in our lifetime. I will
let you know what chat GPT said, because I did
ask right before we started. Now we're going AI, yeah, yeah, yeah,
what does chat GPT say about? Well, how about prime
time Deon Sanders. We're about to see his kid join
the NFL, But what about him when he made a
(05:53):
difference in the NFL whether it was on the Cowboys
or the Niners, and then playing.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Baseball Braves Yankee's he played a bunch of places.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So just an amazing career, an amazing athlete and speed kills.
It killed on the diamond, he was hitting inside the park,
home runs and you know, scoring touchdowns. He did it all,
and he did it all on the same day sometimes,
so legend when it comes to great athletes, and a
lot of times when you think about our childhood eighties
and nineties, we talk about Bo Jackson, Primetime, Dean Sanders.
(06:24):
There's a guy that gets left out of this conversation,
and it's a damn shame because while he wasn't their
star level, Brian Jordan's amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I remember thinking, like.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Wait, you mean the Brian Jordan from the Braves is
also the Brian Jordan that's he was on the Falcons
at one point, right, he was on the Bills and
the Falcons. I take a lot of pride in bringing
this up because he's so often left out of the conversation.
Guy played for the Cardinals, the Braves, the Dodgers, and
the Rangers, but he was a Bill and a Falcon.
Like what an amazing career. You can't be left out
of this conversation if you're talking about great athletes, because
(06:54):
he did it and all these places at a really
high level. Yeah he wasn't Bo Jackson, but what an
amazing guy.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Brian Jordan.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
The next one is interesting to me because this is
rarely seen. I remember this being such a cool thing.
All right, this guy was an elite college quarterback. That's
how most people remember him. But then he opted I
don't think my game will translate to the NFL. Hey,
but you know what I think I could play in
the NBA, and that was Charlie Ward.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You might say Florida State, or do you think New
York Knicks.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Because New York Nick. What a wild story he had.
He also played for the Rockets and the Spurs. But yeah,
he was an NBA player, superstar college football quarterback and
belongs in this conversation. Some of these names aren't brought
up enough, and then it brings me to other names
that just have to be mentioned. If we're going to
talk about the greatest athletes, it is I mean, not
(07:48):
many athletes were drafted in more than two sports. Dave
Winfield drafted football, baseball and basketball, and decided to play baseball,
you have picked the Padres. I picked the Yankees to
pick the Padres just.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
To make you mad. No, because I pictured Davie.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
He actually did with those. And I always said Dave
Winfield was so big that even the clubhouse didn't have
the proper size, because I felt like he always had
like a snug jersey. And I'm like, I think it's
because he's just so damn big and ripped. And another
former Yankee kind of John Elway has to be brought
up because it's crazy when you think about he could
(08:24):
have been in the lineup with Don Mattingley playing right field.
It's interesting because if you watch the docu series thirty
for thirty on ESPN, the one where it was from
Elway to Marino when John Away said, hey, listen, I'm
not going to play for the shitty Baltimore Colts Baltimore
at the time, if you draft me, I'm not playing football.
I'm gonna go play for George Steinbrunner in the Bronx.
(08:46):
And then you know, of course, he ended up on
the Broncos. But there was a time where John Alway
was scheduled in the lineup as a Yankee amazing. Gotta
mention Tom Brady, not just the football player the Montreal Expo,
because I always thought that was great how Tom Brady
had some baseball skills. In fact, his siblings, all the
sisters were great softball players. So Tom Brady was just
(09:07):
an all round athlete, and.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It was cool to see that.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know, he loves signing those expos cards at chos
and stuff, and most recently you see his love of
baseball when he's showing off his baseball card collection and
all that he had to all the same cards we had.
And who else comes to mind, Rich Russell Wilson. Maybe
I would say, you gotta throw Russ and we can
zip past Russ. And then of course Kyler Murray, two
NFL quarterbacks that we both know that like could have
(09:34):
played baseball. Had they opted Kyler Murray, Arizona Arizona Cardinals
could have been in Oakland, A but a longer path.
That's really what it was and what it came down to.
And Russ we all know was a baseball player. He
took some VP at Yankee Stadium. He was in the
CUB system, I believe, right, So yeah, and paying homage
to Bo Jackson, right, there and before we started this conversation,
(09:55):
I quickly again, based on this whole Travis Hunter conversation,
I went to chat GPT and I said, who is
the greatest athlete of all time? And I was like, ooh,
fun debate. And aside from a lot of the names
that we already mentioned, here's some that we left out.
Michael Jordan came up, Serena Williams Bolt files and it
(10:16):
does say Jim Thorpe Bridge and you referenced that Jim
was a gold pentathlon winner, the kathlon winner. He played
pro football, baseball, and basketball. But I did find it
interesting that a lot of the names we discussed, including
those were mentioned. But no Lebron Lebron. Yes, he's not
a fan of Lebron. We know he could have been
(10:38):
a tight end in the NFL, right, Jerry Jones said,
open contract whenever he wants. But this Travis Hunter story
still developing, could be cool. And I like that he's
so adamant about playing both sides. His heart's in the game. Clearly.
Let me ask you, you have a daughter who's big
into the cheer scene. Yeah, do you do you feel
like one star one sport athletes is the rage. Now
(11:02):
that's a constant debate just on parenting alone. It's like,
do you spread your kid thin and try all different things?
Do you put their focus on one sports. It's a
tough debate. And by the way, I'll go back to
what spots just put up. The GM of the Cleveland Browns,
one of the teams that could be in the running
for Travis Hunter, did say he's very otani like. So
(11:23):
maybe maybe Travis Hunter hears that he goes all right, Cleveland,
I'll say.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Show hey, Tony Ohny.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But if you know, I'm torn with that now as
a dad who coaches little kids, if you skip one season,
like if I took my daughter out of softball for
one season, what and here in La we play fall ball, summer, winter, spring,
everything I took out for one three month period to
try soccer, she goes back to softball. Those kids have advanced.
But then you're like, what do you your kid's not
(11:52):
supposed to try everything? Yes, Like do you want to
be well rounded or really just great at one thing
or you're focused on one thing? So that is our
list of the best just all around athletes current day.
Did we forget anybody? Who do you think is number one.
Hit us up at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio,
and one week from today we'll be watching the NFL
(12:14):
Draft and we'll see where Travis hunters. We'll see where
cam Ward and Shador Sanders and all these young kids
play next year in the NFL. All right, now, you're
a big baseball card guy. I know you take a
pride in your collection. You met my Billy Ripkin error card.
You mentioned love the nub of the bat face. You
mentioned Tom Brady and how Tom Brady was recently showing
(12:35):
off his eighties collection.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Because we're around the same age as Tom. He was
showing off his mid.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Eighties cards like oh, eighty five tops in eighty four
and eighty six. Yeah, those jose Canseco eighty seven's. I
saw him there. Barstool, I'm a big fan of what
they do. In fact, next week, I'm pretty sure we're
gonna have KFC from Barstool on over promised Big Cat,
who one of the biggest dudes in sports media. Big
Cat or Barstool was doing the opening of an old
(13:02):
pack of cards. Now the question is this, if I
told you Cavino, here's a pack of cards from the
eighties you might have you might have a winner in here,
or it could be all bums. This pack of cards
seven hundred bucks just one pack. We've seen this with like,
(13:22):
you know, like some old granny, like I found an
unopen pack of nineteen fifty six tops and you're like,
I remember there was a thing where people were bidding
like twelve hundred bucks. Like, would you buy an eighties
pack of NBA cards for seven hundred to one thousand
dollars if there was a chance Michael Jordan was in it?
How much seven let's say, seven hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Fifty bucks right the pack?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, I would take that chance. I was exciting. That's
a lot of money. I'm not trying to say I'm
Daddy Stacks, but for the fun of it, that could
be cool. Yeah, look at this video again. Props to barstool.
Big cat is doing this. He bought a pack. I
believe it. They'll say, there eighty six fleeer, eighty five fleer.
Take a look at this unopening of cards.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You're just disgusted with yourself. It's going one card by
one card?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Look at this? What what? Oh oh my god, wait.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
What is it? Slow way? You got the Jordan rooky
fucking pull to Jordan Lucky in mint condition. If it's.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Come on, let me see.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Say, get asleep, don't touch it, don't touch it? What
give me?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
And Lucky McAfee's out there because he doesn't have any sleep. Shitay,
So I bring this up because that card, fucking god,
if it's if it's a beat up, shitty card, it's
like twenty thirty grand mint condition, seven hundred to a
million dollars. That's incredible. So obviously has to get it graded.
I want to hear the update. I'm surprised he didn't.
(15:00):
I'm out of his seat though he was excited, But
how do you just sit there? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That is a wild man.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I love that. I know you're a big baseball it's
so hard guy, but imagine, imagine you get an old
pack of cards and it's like the long shot, and
you know, congrats to big cat.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's a great moment. Rich wanted to surprise me with that,
and you know what, I did see it, but I
didn't know what it was all about, and I scrolled
right past it. That's a good one. Congrats to him.
What a pull man. That's really cool to say, really
cool to say, I love that, but I also love
when people find these unopened packs, like they're doing construction
at a house and under wall, the steps are in
the wall. It's like a pack from nineteen fifty two
(15:40):
or fifty three, and that's pretty awesome. Congrats. I say
this often, and I never stand by my own words.
I'm one of those guys that says some shit, but
I don't do it myself. Yeah, I often say, why
not every year of your life, when you're at the pharmacy, Target, Walmart,
buy a couple of packs, tuck them away somewhere in
twenty five years, just for shits and giggles. Be like,
(16:02):
hey kid, your son might be growing up, your nephew
or someone. Be like, uncle Rich has something insane. Imagine
if you did that all throughout the two thousands. You
do that lots of stuff. Imagine if you did it
with a cell phone, the original iPhone in its packaging. Yeah,
it's worth it's a much mone hundreds of thousand dollars.
So we just don't have that wherewithal usually don't, or
maybe just the money like to spend that extra money out.
(16:22):
Maybe it's but you can do that with some baseball
card your gratification. What if, not being serious, what if
over the last twenty years, you just randomly would pull
a card, no poll pack, don't open it, put it
away for later. Oh you know, you would have got
maybe a honest rookie or a lebron rookie year.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I do have some boxes still unopened in storage. Maybe
I'll bring them in one day with cards or value
in no, no, no of cards. I just don't know if
there's anything of value from those years that I have,
because once it hit like ninety ninety one, then they
really were over mass producing, not worth a live But
Danny g Our, producer on the day to day Fox
(17:00):
Sports show, Danny g when we first started doing the
show together, you know, he bought me for my birthday
a show heil tany rookie card and I looked it
up and it's worth like three hundred bucks now because
when he when when we first start working together, Otani
was a rookie in Anaheim and he's like, rich, I
got you this for your birthday. I have it in
(17:22):
a case. It's jem mint rated everything, and I have
it read over here.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And you know, show you.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's because they stepped their game up. If you look
here at Danny, you got me just too. It's a
Don Manningly card, but again it has a piece of
his uniform in it. Tops has those rookie debut cards
with the patches. But baseball cards have stepped their game
up so and that's amazing. Courtesy dropped the Buddy, Danny G.
I got trad Just Manningly for that Atani rookie courtesy
(17:49):
of Danny G. Dude, what a gift time, dah Man.
I'm jealous now, That's what I'm saying, though at the
time probably cost him a couple of bucks to be
a nice friend. I'll trade you that Manningly and this
be for that old tany the beat and the beat,
and you know I'll up the any trap jaw on
a throwback Thursday trapjaw from he Man from he Man
(18:10):
messall pass on that damn dude that sucks now anyway,
that's a great pole. I'll tie it in here. Maybe
you could buy it from me if you win your bet.
Comino and I have a fun just Mets Yankees bet
going on this year. We bet handshake thousand dollars Mets
versus Yankees.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Who has a better record.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Remember there's a lot of animosity leading into the season
with the whole Wan Soto thing, and I'm mad at
the Mets and mad at Soto, and which is like, hey,
put money on it, who has the best record? It
is one thousand bucks straight up for the best record.
But then then we then we said for each game,
the winning team is better at one hundred. So let's
say the Yankees are six games better than the Mets.
(18:50):
I don't know, this guy's sixteen hundred bucks. And right now,
as of now Thursday, April seventeenth, Easter weekend is dead
even eleven and eleven and seven eleven. So it's so cool.
But this little friendly bet we made, we made it
on the air, people could play along, has really kept
me glued even more on what the Mets are doing,
(19:10):
and my rooting interest has significantly increased. Now we're not
breaking the glass. When you got action on the games, yeah,
it's a little more exciting. Then you wonder why I
like the action on some NFL football no matter what
the game is, It just makes it more interesting. I
also think it's been fun for our camaraderie because I'm
really rooting against the Mets. I even went to a
Mets game with you recently hoping they lose. And it's
(19:30):
got me invested so much more So, just got us
thinking about some friendly bets. And coincidentally, today a story
broke that Jazz Chisholm and Aaron Judge have a friendly
bet amongst each other going on and they're calling it
the home run stolen base bet. Oh I'm reporting this
to Rob Manford. I hope they both get suspended and
(19:53):
banned from baseball for gambling. Oh, we didn't say that
there was any currency involved it friendly.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I rand the point, though, but I think this is great.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Jazz also thinks it should be a stat though, so
that's part of the story that he thinks home run
plus stolen bases hrs plus sb's should be an actual stat.
But if you want to read it, here's the bet
that he has with Judge. He goes, we'll call it
the home run SB and the Mattha's easy home runs
plus stolen bases. I think I'm beating him right now,
says Chisholm. We both got to add him up. You
(20:21):
know how they say OPS is on base plus slugging.
This is home runs plus stolen bases. You know, and
right now as you speak, I looked it up myself. Okay,
Jazz has six home runs for stolen bases, so he's
at ten. Judge seven bombs, two stolen bases nine, so
he's beating Judge ten to nine. That's fun. Man.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I looked up there all time highs.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, Aaron, Judge one year had a total of seventy
eight and Jazz is all time combined.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is sixty four. Oh wow, So but that was Judge's
sixty two home run year.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
By the way, Judge just went ten games without hitting
a home run until yesterday. So it's a fun, friendly
bet and just like it, got Rich night more engaged.
I imagine that only helps not only their chemistry, but they
want to beat each other. And I think everybody needs
that friendly wager, that friendly competition to keep things exciting,
to keep it going, pushing yourself to take things further.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Does show?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Hey, Ani, does Atani beat everyone in this particular contest
by twenty five? Have to I mean fifty to fifty. Guy,
He's like tailor made for the stats. That's what I'm
saying is even if these guys, let's say Judge hit
sixty home runs, it's like fifteen twenty stone bases. I
think Otani beats everyone in this category by twenty five.
(21:36):
Hold on, though, and although I think this is a
lot of fun amongst teammates, don't you think there is
something to be said when you think of all these
stupid stats that you can't even follow, do you think
it's a pretty good one because those are significant numbers?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You know, if we put so much so much emphasis
on fifty to fifty, shouldn't that be a stat You
know what what stat gets a you meant say it
does good emphasis. I'm a big fan of on base
percentage because some times you'll see a guy and you're like, oh,
he's bett in two eighty five nowadays is.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Great in baseball nowadays? Yes, super.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
But if a guy has been in twenty five but
his on base percentage is like three hundred, guy doesn't
get on base. He just he's not walking like like
a guy like Sodo.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know my guy. Now you don't love Soda, but.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Wan Sodo's the guy that even when he's bett in
two sixty somehow, is on base percentage is like four
thirty there's guys that know how to get on base,
and I think that's one of those valuable stats that
we don't talk enough about, on base percentage. Remember Barry
Bonds during his prime years, he was getting on base
like six out of ten times. He's walking all the time,
and when he was connecting, it was out of the park.
So amazing to look back and thank you guys again
(22:39):
for hanging out with him. Hey, enjoy your Eastern die
those eggs. See the easter bunny. Happy holiday weekend. Uh Hey,
pass over Easter. Enjoy a riven there at you baby,
see you in the over. Promise later better
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