A Thin Line Between Brilliance and Insanity with Charleston White | Part.2 - Perspektives

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Speaker 1 (00:46):
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straight to it hard too. Man. We're back at it.
He yah, Yeah, you're back to back gotta come back
with this. What's going on? Man? Oh man? Just taking
it easy, man, this week being a crazy week. People

(01:06):
you stay on the internet. Oh well, h nigga, God
damned to control the algorithm. How you do that? H
going against the grain or going against everything that people
think is right? Uh? And I'm trying to prove it wrong.

(01:27):
Oh so so you know, just by me saying f
the baby, people want that that word. Man, he said
the baby. He ain't hurt nobody by saying that the baby,
but people make it act like I don't really hurt somebody,
but they honor and worship people who hurt people, whether
that's through rap music, through movies. Uh so, nigga. Uh,

(01:52):
I've been studying the internet for for since the pandemic,
you know, learning uh and and nigga, I can just
wake up any day and say something and go viral
that they I just know it has to be outlandish.
So uh by me already being in an algorithm and

(02:14):
and and and other people posting me. Uh, It's there's
no social media platform you can't wake up on and
not see Charleston White uh with with a viral.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Video that one last episode, it was like you like,
nobody can say that they locked up for you.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, that that that I put them in jail.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah that you put them in jail. But it's an interview.
I mean, uh, it's just resurfaced. What you understand telling
on your popem.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Uh that that he ain't locked up because of me. Uh.
I was the last one to get arrested. So they
had already the police had already knew what happened. What happened,
So Nigga, we all told, so uh, it's just uh,
all three see, all three of us, All three of
us told on the shooter. It's just that it was

(03:00):
four people. There were four people, so so it was
all three of us testified against the shooter. It's just
that that's my own. They only showing my video because
I'm famous. My my co defendis ain't famous. She ain't
gonna show their videos. We happened to the fro though. Yeah,
but you know that's that's what the ninety three homie
when when when? When when Snoop and the game banging era,
So Nigga trying to go roll the dredgs that looked

(03:21):
like uh uh uh yeah and an old dog Nigga
trying to get the old doll. Look yeah yeah, yeah,
but so now all three of us told and testified
against the shooter. Okay, yeah, so uh, I was the
baby out of everybody at homie. So yeah, all three
of us. It's just that one of my co definished
got by the name of Dwayne Jackson. Uh he he

(03:45):
initially was arrested first, so he told the police everything. Uh.
We was arrested later. So uh. But there was a
girl who was in the parking lot who we went
to school with. Uh uh who was with her mom
that day. So that's who who gave the post identity
and told who we were. So so when they got DJ,
uh he got arrested early in the day, right out immediately,

(04:06):
like almost right after that house. No, no, DJ wasn't sure.
Uh Uh. DJ was a was a kid who who
who who lived in the duplexes. So I lived in
the houses. Mama didn't work for General Motors, so we
lived in the big night houses Marble flows or Mama
got a fleet. So it's like the kids in the houses,

(04:27):
the nigga who lived close to the school stay in
the duplexis then the niggas lived right by the school
in the projects. So you got the kids. I'm the
kid from the houses, Djil kid from the duplex who
mother was a single mother work. He was the only child,
never been in no trouble. Or DJ was athletic, real
cool nigga. Uh we used his car, he had just

(04:49):
bought a car. Or he worked. He was a waiter
at Red Lobster a water and the bus boy at
Red Lofter. So he was a real good kid. Uh, Nigga.
I was. I was going through an adolescent age, being
juvenile delinquent. You know what I'm saying, run away from home,
stealing bikes. Went from stealing bikes and stelling car. Nigga
just being a juvenile delinquent. The other two were older

(05:10):
than us, them Nigga from the projects. Mama was on drugs,
brother was in so them Nigga was more criminal than
we were. So DJ DJ was killed by the police
and the hotspeed chase almost a year later. So DJ
was the only one of us who actually got out
right right right after the crime. So all three of
us told on the shooter. You see what I'm saying.

(05:31):
So nah nigga, So uh, I ain't putting no niggas
in but let me.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Let me ask you this though, because you got like
two different videos out. You got one video saying like,
we killed the white boy. You know what I'm saying, Like,
was that trolling or what?

Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's what? What? What? That that's troller? Remember I come
to the internet. Yeah, seeing nigga, we killed the white man.
You have been shooting and I break white women. Yeah,
so I come with those two narratives, Nigga, we done
done shit the white people. You Nigga ain't done nothing
to white So that's troller. That's troller. But then when
you got me an interview, I said, nigga ain't never
killed nobody. Yeah, nigga, I'm just bullshitting, yeah yeah yeah yeah.

(06:07):
So when you got me serious, I said, nigga ain't
never killed nobody. Nigga. I'm was raised like that. But
that got everybody's attention when I said I killed the
white man. Oh, you ain't never killed nobody. I haven't. Yeah,
But the culture want me to be the killer, see
Chuck Wills. The culture want me to be the shooter
because they say free to shooter, free, little dirt free vun.

(06:31):
So the culture want me to be the shooter. And
I'm saying, Nigga, I ain't never killed nobody, Nigga, I'm
just a bully.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
So that so let me ask you some you say,
because a lot of once you started getting money, you
start getting in the light, a lot of it come out.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
You said rape.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Then now it's like a feminly member of some trying
to say.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Like, yeah, that that that raptor it? Well, the year
she said I raped, I was locked up in nineteen
ninety nine. Nigga, I was locked up all of ninety nine.
Soon I got the bos home. I got caught with
tens a week. But then, what I'm saying, but do
you think you play it to a lot of this
because you want to? I played one time. You was like,
you know we used to God, cousin, we did? Your
cousin come up, say we did? But she said, I

(07:11):
tell her she was eleven. I don't even know this cousin. Yes,
she said, I tell her she left Nigga, we grew up,
cousin playing hoighuse it's about equal age, equal ages. Yeah, Nigga,
I don't even know this cuk. So what you what
you think makes her? I don't know money. But this
is what I'm saying why not go to the police

(07:32):
if it happened. Why go to the internet to some
niggas I've been getting into it with online for the
last three for you she did or some niggas I've
been getting into it with online. So why not go
to the police. Why not, sue? Bill? You got more
getting in trouble for sex crime from the sixties home?
Why not go sue? Why not? If you got paperwork? Not?

(07:55):
Why not show the paperwork? Where your mama at, where
the rest of the family that? Why is this one
month saying this? All these years, I've been working with
kids all these years, I've been working with kids in
the schools doing doing sex trafficking presentation with the Homeland Security.
You mean to tell me, y'all go sit on this
information while I'm working with kids. You know, every time

(08:18):
when the nigga come out, so niggas started hitting me.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
They's like, ask Charleston is he banned from the school now?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I nigga? I just coached me and Sean Cotton just
coached in the schools with Terrence Gangster probably a month ago.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
What made them say that?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Though?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Like Charleston band from.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Well, this is why I got banned I got banned
in Footworth I ISD schools because when they allowed go
ya yo little running and go yayo them the little
rapper that just got killed, they allowed them to go
into the schools and perform a song called my forty
Go Boom. This is documented. The school district let this
little kid go up and here and this kid promoting

(08:56):
gun violence with guns and all in this video. When
I got win of that nigga, I challenged the school
district and made the news Channel eight news and the
school district got mad at me because I exposed him
for that. So that's the reason why they so so
so they stopped letting me coming forward, I asked the school.
But I still taught every third every Friday at J. D.
Hall Learning Center in Lancaster Independent School District.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
So basically by you coming, you saying, basically, by you
coming to the internet and being a success and being
on the bush, it's bush gonna come with it.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Oh, they said, jay Z and Puffy raped the twelve
year old girl at a party in La after the
Awar show. Mamm gonna say all kind of shit. Where
the proof it? We're gonna say all and why come
to the internet and not law law authorities. That's what
I don't understand. Why not go to law thority and
you can still sue nigga having money nigga posting how

(09:48):
much he's making, he's throwing man, why not go get
that money in his ass criminally that don't make it
in the state of Texas home, they gonna pursue the charges.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
He said, if it many, if it's any nigga, they.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Opensue the chart. But why sit on this for all
twenty five years? Then I got twelve years of community
work working with children directly in the schools in the community.
Still to this day, why sit on it?

Speaker 4 (10:16):
So you're saying, basically, if if I were that type
of nigga, you shouldn't even let me win around kids.
There you go, I got there you go saying there
you goot man, that's you.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
That's exactly what I'm saying. Nigga. You can comprehend. They
used to keep reading comprehension in school. Nigga, you can comprehend.
Then you talking about bro nigga, you comprehension. But but
but this is what I'm saying, Oh, nigga. Documentation Beat
Conversation Documentation Beach conversation. Fact, that's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
What about to do down there? And I thank you
from Texas too. Got to test who's on his face?
He got the cancel cancl.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Charged and paid.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
I don't know him, crypt dude, he got a page
called Kensel charged and White don't.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I don't know him.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Let me see what his name is just sent to?
Uh what the name is?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Y'all?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Don't know that he be wearing a cowboy hat?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Are you talking about the mag Oh? Yeah, yeah, man, man,
Me and that nigga, Me and that nigga been getting
into it the man. I ain't even finna get that
nigga that light. Oh yeah, But I know who you're
talking about, the maorw niggah. Yeah, man, I know who
that nigga been on the internet much. So these are
my internet rivals. So these are the niggas who I
started out on YouTube with beefing with. It's a whole

(11:37):
group of them niggas and all of them them grouped together.
So it's a whole group of these niggas I used
to start out beefing with on YouTube. My YouTube rival.
I don't surpassed these niggas that's why they man. Man,
Hell yeah, that's why they man. Man. He be saying
some crazy shit. Men like a motherfucker, he said, the
little CJ. Casino is my cousin, and I had something

(11:58):
to do with the nigga getting killed. Who's that?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Somebody from Dalla a rapper?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Men? Yeah? Nah, I don't entertain them niggas because this
what I know documentation beat conversation. There's no statue of
limitation nigga on raping, child molestation. So y'all ain't never
been cool? You don't do it? Ain't no, Yeah, yeah,
we've been cool. Off standing it, Okay, outstanding it. So

(12:25):
how much there's no statue of limitation on these type
of crimes. Why go to the internet and not law
enforcement because they're still locking it up. It's mother, it's
a it's a mother. NBA player had to pay twenty
some million dollars on his cousin if my if y'all
been violated eleven and twelve years old, more violate my

(12:45):
baby liveing to you, it ain't nothing to keep me
silent or going after his ass once if I get
the information at what age? At what time? Yeah to
me and mother, go to the police going on on
the podcast they got poor lighting uh and stuff. Cotches
go to the college put lng man so now Nigga man,

(13:13):
I wht men heir now Nigga go men now, But
Nigga at this point, oh me and mother say anything,
what's some of this? Not none of it? Or because nigga,
it don't stop nothing just Nigga Done came online and
said some of the most horrible a human being can

(13:37):
say on social media. How I'm gonna let some with
me and I'm working with everything makes yeah, Nigga, how
I'm gonna have that soft of a skin. Nigga got
us say if dead people's relative men, Nigga Done have
been brutal with my mother, my peach. How I'm gonna
let some with me? Nigga and I wake up looking

(14:00):
nigga with people?

Speaker 4 (14:03):
What about the dude who be gambling? Like, what's what's
the dude name? Who be gambling?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Who who may don't even know that nigga, that nigga
Me and that niggain't never even seen each other in person,
never get into it. Oh Finesse, Finesse siek me on him,
finess seek me on him? Because because because because Finesse
was about to get in trouble over the little kings
throwing the guns and the drugs. So they feel like

(14:29):
his hands up behind little King. So yr F cps
O them two other We got cool after that, though,
why you because because they let the little nigga threaten me.
They let the little nigga king threatened me like he
can whoop me, like he was a grown man that
he can whoop me, Like, yeah, on my grandma. What
does nigga say on my grandmama when I see you,

(14:50):
I'm gonna slap you? What something that little nigga said?
You know what I'm saying? What Romo then put the
camera in front of this kid face to let him
promote to make Printon So yeah, hell yeah, but I'm
trolling doing that cause niggain't got no information to give
the CPS where they can actually. But I made the
and I did it live, so you know if I'm
doing it live controlling, Yeah, so yeah, you're knowledge of bullshit,

(15:13):
but no, me and Finis he ended up getting cool
after that. So no, now that that that that that
read her nigga. So so I said something about the
nigga in the sa geez, he's being to do that.
Whoever got keen now is a whole ass nigga. Why
would they let the little nigga get out all on
the camera and talk for this grown folk bidding about
him and sugar. And when I was so, I'm saying, nigga,

(15:35):
uh uh, nigga, that's a whole ass add door that
little If I get you over her, homie, you ain't
gonna you ain't gonna talk down on a nigga who
once gave you an opportunity and tried to help you nothing.
He really tried to help you. Sincerely, I ain't gonna
let you do him down, you know. So now home
and so uh so when I said that that hurt
that nigga feelings, So this nigga swore up it down.
He's spray painted in my garage or this nigga said

(15:59):
that nigg that nigga made a video or spray painting
garage and that it was my house.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
That nigga said me and him that that that I
wanted that he put me in jail. That the last
time I went to jail, he put me in jail.
I went for violate my bond conditions. Uh, he said
me and him had a fight in jail. Uh, nigga,
he went to jail in Dallas County. I was in
jail in Terran County. Home that nigga line, mother, I'm
talking about this dry line. So I don't even I said, man,

(16:26):
he can have it. I don't want to argue with
him no more. He well, no, he just lie. Now,
you can't beat me lying nigga. I'm known that the
truth trolling though, No he lines. It's a difference between
trolling and line. No, no, that's different between trolling and line.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
So did you get baby locked up or nah?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
So you line? Uh nigga, No no, no, no, no,
no no no no. That video is from three three
four years old. I really did call the police on
big Baby. Now that was a true video. No no, no, no, no,
no no no, no, that's a real Now, that's the truth.
What he gonna because his nigga played like he put
ten thousand on my head.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
You can't, nigga make shoot him.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
But you can't make I'm fitting people. I respond in
self defense. I ain't out here attacking niggas with Mason. No, nigga,
I'm self defending myself. You can't publicly make threats. So now, nigga,
I literally called Houston, but he was in Houston at
the time, and I literally called no. That was that
was for real. Take all threats seriously. Yeah, whether you

(17:31):
playing or not. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And I want
to put you in jail. And I want to put
a nigga ass in jail. So the nigga, I know,
making threats could get you put in jail, especially if
you got a criminal background, feeling in conviction. It's nigga.
The hell yeah, nigga. So no, no, I wasn't troubling.
That was for real.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
So you think the Internet put Bricknam in jail?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Oh no, uh, the the Olympics put brick Nim in jail.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
What you mean?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
You remember when the Olympics came to Atlanta in ninety
five ninety six. Do you remember all the funding that
this city got, all the federal funding. The police department
got some federal funding, and they created an extension of
a drug task force called the Red Dogs, and the
Red Dog had the power, the funding, the resources to
go out and clean up this goddamn city for Olympics
get here.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Just the same situation Olympics going up there.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Olymps be in La in like a year or two.
Oh yeah, So it's the same situation. So we cannot
allow this worldwide sport to come to this city where
these niggas kidnapped, these niggas extort these niggas. Man, we
can't have these niggas out on the streets when the
Olympics get here. So this is nothing different than Atlanta
ninety five ninety six when Olympics came and they created

(18:43):
the Red Dog Task Force to go clean up the streets.
It's no difference, damn oh man, economics and politics, niggas
is looking at hip hop and and and and social
justice issues from the bottom. Man, nigga, I started from
the top and came down to the bottom. So the
dude from Boss Talk he with them too, Oh what

(19:05):
dude from Boss Talk? You know it's I used to
be cool with all them niggas home, but I uld
be cool with all them niggas you asked me about
or I used to go do free interview with Boss Talk. Homie,
I'm the one blew his channel up. Uh uh and uh.
He used to bring out the l a gang banging
niggas and want to put me in. I'm like home,
I don't want to attach myself to that. So that's

(19:27):
what that hurt his channel a lot because he kept
them l a niggas on their talking gang banging talk.
But yeah, nah, I was fucking with that nigga, Homie. Uh,
you know, playing we we we seeming like we cool
or I'm doing free interviews or for this nigga blowing
this channel up. And they charged my wife for clothes
in front of and you know, merchandise and ship, so
you know, I got oh. So that's how I went left,

(19:50):
Like that's like how everything go left. They charged my
bitch nigga for clothes and I'm doing free interviews. Fuck, man, nigga,
I'm promoting y'all brand. Every celebrity I fuck with, I'm
bringing them over here for y'all. Fuck y'all charge of
my bit for these old cheap ass suit fuck Then
I got mad the motherfucking I find out. No, I'm
mad the motherfuckers. So when I say something, uh, and

(20:13):
then Homie, I kept telling him, I don't want to
do ship with Game. Don't don't attach my name to
game banging ship because at the time That's when I
was going around telling everybody Big You and them kill
nilp the Rolling Sixties. So Nigga, it's a whole lot
that I was saying about what's going on now about
the nigga and I was sending on them Boss Talk podcast.
So hell you said what nigga, I been saying a

(20:35):
long time ago. Big U in the sixties had kill
nil I know for a fact they did. Nigga. I
went to the I went to the funeral with the
Rolling Sixties. I went to the documentation beat Uh. Well,
I well, uh it's documented. What's the proof Big Big

(20:56):
big U big U and uh Black Samon? They daddy all.
That's a police report, homie, where where Black Sam had
to pull a pissil out on big U before before
Nip got killed. Even Big You say they was going
to go pick Nip up so Nip can get DP.
They're gonna kick Nip ass. They're gonna beat up Nip
black Uh they were. They were gonna give them a

(21:18):
gang violation because Nip had took the Nip had took
the supposed recording uh or recording equipment out of the
studio and wasn't paying that twenty thousand dollars a big
you no more. Everybody know that. And so they had
a fight. Big You hit uh Black Sam and Nip
Daddy in the head on the back with the back

(21:40):
Black Sam had to come out and fire the gun. Niggas.
Weeks later, Nip dead. Yeah for real, it's documented.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
So that that that's the part of the occasion.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Now, oh you know, I ain't seen no paper I
ain't seen the paperwork, but I was saying this right
after Nip Nip died. Uh uh you nigga, ain't nobody
bigger than the set. Nip got bigger than the set. Mean,
ain't nobody bigger than the set. Nip got bigger than
the set?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Like like basically like just start getting more money and stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Pulling away or you can't leave the set, nigga. Once
you and once you join that shit, it can't just
go be what you want to be. Well, when you
pull up, imagine a nigga like Big U and all
them niggas that really run ship, nigga will Nip pull up,
all the little homies, everybody running the Nip. It's Nip
Nip Nip so nah nigga. Now Nip got bigger than

(22:43):
the set. Oh yeah, ain't nowhere in the world. Nigga.
He got killed by Rolling sixty in the Rolling sixties
neighborhood where he got killed at if that wasn't sanctioned,
ain't nowhere in the world. Homey shot six times, that's
their signature. Nigga that stayed six times. Nigga that stays sicknature.

(23:04):
As he walk away, he come back to kick him
in the head. That's personal. He ain't just run off, nigga.
He walked away then came back like saying, kicked him
in the head before he left damp. So I was
getting into it with them niggas alone. So that's how
men Brick was getting into it because I was. I

(23:26):
was saying, ship like that seeing me and fucked him
the kid nip Oh. But y'all still admire and that
heard of them niggas. Ain't nobody turned on them niggas
you said after that? Yeah, No, Cowboy took the stand in.
Told that Nipsey Hustle Potner. He took the stand in.

(23:46):
Toe on who shot Knip.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Or the dude that was locked up that's locked up
for enough.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Cowboy is the one in the parking like Nipsey Hustle's homeboy.
He was in the parking lot when nip got killed.
He took the stand and testified against Eric Hold. Okay, okay, yeah.
The hip hop community a mad at him for that
because they love nim so were picking choose, but he
is no no, no, no, no, no no her we are.

(24:15):
This is a sick This is a fourteen year old kid.
You me, these are grown men. This is I was
a fourteen year old kid. You know, not from let me,
let me.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
I'm saying from different perspective. Could you say that they
was victims and you won a victim you was on
a crime.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
That's the difference. If a nigga going to do a
crime and you tell on your co defending, that's.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Ratting murder or death. It's trauma on both sides. Even
the killer go through a traumatic experience for having to
kill somebody. Nigga had dreams. So niggas try play tough.

(25:02):
But nigga, when you kill somebody, are you responsible for
killing somebody? If you've been raised Christian nigga, you start
to man, am I gonna go to hell? You start
having them dreams about going to hell? Have you been
raised Muslim. You start to have them dreams about going
to hell. You don't kill somebody. It's not who you are.
This is most niggas have a spiritual belief. So now

(25:25):
you got these dreams you gotta wrestle with. Now you
got to go see a therapist, a counselor. Nigga, sit
just ain't going away. And you're saying to a kid,
to a kid, So now, Nigga, it ain't no way
to keep playing gangster because now reality isn't set in.
I'm just being rebellious. Nigga. Reality is set in, and

(25:48):
I don't understand the severity of this. All the adults
around me, do the psychiatrists, our psychologists, Mama judge nigga.
So this they letting me know how serious this is.
Nigga don't know how serious it is at fourteen years old.
And Nigga, I'm not raised not to tell the police.
I'm raised to talk to the police. Nigga, My mam ma,

(26:12):
my mama, you come, my mama, go take you to
the police station and tell them people the truth.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
So basically saying you was just being rebellioused you knew better.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Just what I'm saying. So after all that right, Yeah,
when you got out what you was on, did you like? Went?
I went to go and roll in college. Now, when
I got out of I wasn't playing gamester uh, nigga.
As soon as I got out home, and uh, I
tried to go and roll in University of Arkansas.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
My cousin was already going to school down there, so
he wanted to be the weed man, and so uh
I take a trip with him coming back home. Uh
and nigga, Uh get we get stopped with ten pounds
a week and a pammin and a pamin. But I

(27:06):
got to go do some time for it after that. Yeah,
wasn't a panamin, nigga. I was going to go and
roll into the University of Arkansas in febear of Arkansas. Damn.
So yeah, so I did six. I did what I
did almost all the nineteen So I got out of
ninety seven late ninety seven. We got caught like August
of ninety eight. I did all the ninety nine in

(27:28):
the boot camp and I got five year at the
FRED probation. At I ain't telling him, Oh I was
the driver. They tried to make it seem like he
were mine. Yeah, but nigga. Uh I went to trial. Yeah,
I went to trial and had a mistrial. Uh yeah,
I went to trial and had a mistrial. So they
offered me the boot camp or regimented program or did

(27:50):
that five year at the FRED probation. Uh, nigga, I
worked on jobs.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Why the nigga ain't take it?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Look though, oh uh he was. He wasn't a street nigga.
These ain't street nigga. We ain't street people, he says.
These is niggas caught up into the culture. So you
figuring nineteen ninety eight, ninety seven, ninety eight, Master P
had just dropped ghetto dope nigga. We in our early twenties,

(28:17):
twenty one, twenty twenty one, Master P just dropped ghetto
dope nigga. In the black community. During that time, selling
dope was almost like the eighties. The rewards of setting
dope was so big and great. Master P don't come
with an album, taught you how to cook, crack, member
man and crack like this. The whole culture is promoting

(28:38):
drug dealing, cracks selling, and hustlings. You know how many
young boys jumped off the porch just trying to do
this because they put it in the music. Nigga, we
following the trends in the music. Tupac done killed the
gang banging with his death. So nigga, all niggas in
college tried to sell a little weed, lose they find

(28:59):
it and shade scholarship got caught in college trying to say, well,
you know how many nigga got kicked out of college
for that coming from good home fucked up right now
today because they got a possession with the intended to stream,
they lost they financially. Now they can't go to college.
We with them kids home. I don't know no motherfucking
take no lick, and you don'et got stopped in this
motherfucking country town. Ain't no taking no lick. All y'all

(29:21):
getting charged with this. Ain't no taking no lick, ain't
no rural country town. Nigga, All y'all get in charged.
And that's what happened.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Let me ask you something. Last time we were talking,
we were talking about like how them folks will come
in like when you're doing the youth organization ship. Do
you think like with you know, they trying to say like.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Basically he was your front, Well it was and that
and so that's why I never took the funding. But
because because most nigga's gonna take the funding. And like
he said, man, I paid my rent. I bought so
you go buy calls, pay your rent. You're gonna get
your mama a job. Uh. But you still tied to
the streets or nigga. I did it for twelve years,

(30:08):
my nigga and and I made sure everything, everything was
clipped from them streets. You can't have no nigga working
with the organization, homie and he's still going back. He
got one foot and one for that and then them people.
You have to itemize you're getting this grant funding, nigga,
you have to itemize where how you spending that money.
You if you bought paper clips, you gotta show you

(30:30):
you spend three dollars on paper clips, nigga. If you
bought thumb tacks, you all that have to be accounted for. Uh.
And that's where they get niggas at.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
So that's a part. I think that's a part of
the ship. I've seen that they were saying, like he's
basically taking the money the further you know what I'm saying,
some street ship.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, sometimes that she can get it can't home or
not not not when you completely separated from the streets,
it can't get confused.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Or you saying not when you.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
When you completely when you don't turn completely away from Rome,
there's no way your right and your wrong can be
confused as being mixed together. But can your past be
confused with your present? Man? And people know many people know. No. Man,

(31:22):
when you turn away from your past, it's a real
disconnect that people can't connect with. Yeah, they can bring
it up, but they can't connect you to your past
as if you still doing what you once used to
do today. Yeah, I don't disconnect me and mother can't
come back and say, yeah, no, I've heard some ship

(31:44):
about you from being in the streets. So nigga wants
you really, Oh, that's what the word repent mean in
the Bible, Nigga to completely turn away from you think
you can outrun your com I don't believe in carma.
Cose white people been out running als. I don't believe

(32:07):
in comber. I think corma is a poor motherfucker's concept
because that's a that's a Hindu belief that ain't no
Muslim beliefs that ain't no Cocoma because if I believe
in God and I believe in Jesus, nigga, the mercy
and the grace does away with carma. God's mercy and
grace niggas does away with karma. Okay, So I don't

(32:31):
believe in corma. I think that's a poor motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
But you only get mercy and grace when your heart
is pure, right, or when you're really done with some
shit you can't.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Oh well, it's a lot of times you done been
in jail and you don't see God. Man, please, man,
I ain't gonna do it. And at that moment, and
at that time in your heart you were sincere. God
honors that moment. And then you get back out and
do the same shit again. God honest the heart for
that moment, nigga, long as you sincere and wanting to change. Yeah,

(33:03):
you may slip and file, but nigga, this the sincere.
The heart is wanting to do better, or it's just
trying to find a way to recondition the mind, nigga.
So the actions changed according to the heart, because the
heart and the mind ain't the same, two two different
components that you gotta work on. So Uh, I don't
believe in karma because nigga niggas bad and white folks

(33:25):
been to us. Nigga ain't received no koma, damn damn.
So I don't know if I believe in carma either though. No, listen,
I think we've gotten, We've gotten away with more. We've gotten,
We've gotten away with more of doing wrong than what

(33:45):
we done got caught with for sure, and and and
and so uh.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Man, I think, I think, I think if you just
a fucked up person, fucked up ship happened to you?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
So is that come? Uh? Uh? Me and Jeffrey Dahmer
did some fucked up ship for a long time and
nothing happened to him.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Me and Jeffrey Dahma done some ship for long and
nothing happened to him. My nigga ship men, men, men men.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
So so, so let me say this, if we really
believe what we believe, we believe there's a there's an
element of our society that kidnapped children and are pedophiles,
people that went to Jeffrey Epstein's island. How can all
these people live in secret and do all this fucked
up ship and never we never get to see karma

(34:38):
get them. So you're saying, karma just some ship to
build scre us poor people, so poor motherfucker's concept like
the Boogeyman, like the Boogieyman. Niggas do last alone alone
to be a good man, like d should I go

(35:01):
still be a man? Ship man? Nah, that's that's crazy though,
Calm just like the book, like Sana Claus Man, like
Santa Claus Easter money. So you're no man, motherfucker. They
used to skirt me with their corma ship. Oh but nigga, man,
I've been paying attention in life. You believe in the university, Oh,

(35:22):
I believe in universal laws. Yeah, I believe the universe
has laws. And if you break these laws of the universe,
the same thing as uh if if if if you
jump off this building, you know, gravity don't take you up,
you're going down. That's one of the laws from the universe.
They ain't got nothing to do with Calmer. They ain't

(35:44):
got nothing to calmer. Man. You can't say, man, that
nigga was still in last year or so. This is
just calmer. Yeah, man, they got nothing doing Calmer.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Yeah yeah, crazy fun damn. And they just got my butt,
uh yellow.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that that that caught me
off guard. That that that caught me off guard. Uh,
you know the streets I always said that. Uh, the
streets go, you know, the street talk, and they go
try to connect the dots before the investigators. They always men. Yeah,
and they saw this motherfucker Block three four years ago.

(36:33):
Oh but me and MO three didn't get that nigga
no chance. Man, nigga was in a louse lose situation.
Nigga shooting at you, trying to kill. You know, that
little nigga was on the ass. Huh that little nigga
MO three was on their ass. Oh see, I don't
know what happened. I never met. Yeah, yeah he wasn't. Yeah,
he was on the ass. Ain't even going to put
in their music or you know that nigga Yellow Breeze

(36:56):
It or Sprinter got shot up, but he got hit
that time. Oh that little niggas say he did it
and after he did it, he went and got his
dick suck. Oh yeah, that little niggas on their as.
So oh yeah, they had to put that. They had
to put that fire. They had to put that fire.
Did it divide to sit on Yeah, it did it

(37:17):
divided the city like a motherfucker. I see the new crew.
They kind of young players. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, seven
hundred month yea month time and zee you know what.
So yeah them some young players Old Cliff and South Dallas.
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah them, some young players. Yeah, their
breath the fresh air. Oh, because they you know, they
talk and get money or you know, they talk unity

(37:39):
or you know, even though you know they got the
criminal aspects of you know, the drugs selling in the hustling. Uh,
they ain't talking about hurting nobody. Uh, they ain't talking
about robbing, they ain't talking about running off on the plug. Uh.
You know, some young niggas, you know that's that's just
out there in the streets and in their life can
get some game from them. And those that ain't can

(38:00):
really vibe to it, you know, in a clean good way.
Yeah yeah, shouts out to them. Yeah yeah, yeah that
we might not Big Nigga, Big X yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Fat Boy yeah yeah yeah, three yeah yeah yeah, the
new Heavy d Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, cool nigga, good
spirit of good spirited guy. Yeah. Who'd you say the

(38:21):
goat from Texas? Uh to go from Texas? Uh? Man?
You gotta go d o c Uh. It's getting in
funk a nigga waye. Yeah, you gotta go d o c.
You know. You know, if it wasn't for that car
wreck nigga when he got with death Row and he
would have been a bad motherfucker h then then you

(38:42):
go down to Houston and that's you know, to go
down to Dallas or then you go down to Houston.
You know, Uh, Men's scarface, pimc Bun b uh ship Men,
DJ Screw Fat Pat. It's crazy when you ask youngigga,
they say, uh soft walk nah nah saut fly nigga.

(39:09):
You know, don't get me wrong. Now, they just saying
for like the goat or he he put his niggas
on how every like he changing the game. You know
what I'm saying. With whatever he doing, like Sauce Factory,
strip clubs, everybody with DJ screwed, DJ screw did that
fok Sauce did Okay. You know that's where the screwed
up click come from. That's where the young Thug and
the little Key so all them names, you know, yeah,

(39:31):
all of them come through through DJ Screw. But uh,
somebody gotta feel them shoes and they right soft filled
them shoes. Okay, yeah, yeah, somebody got you know, it's
just like homete. Somebody gotta feel Park shoes, Biggie shoes
or Malcolm shoes or so. No niggas saut feeling them shoes.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
But maybe probably the young niggas went around to see
what they were actually vision what screw did see in
real time?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, uh softial product or
that you know, a game related young nigga that that
you know, he putting it down, not a nigga putting
it down. I fuck with him, him and his daddy,
the whole crew. Yeah, y'all fuck with them niggas. And
I you know, I used to get into altimity consorta
really yeah yeah you be Oh I think I was

(40:19):
starting ship with them, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah,
I think I was starting ship with them. Fucking with
their little nigga. Uh was it was either Rizzin or
paste or paste or one of them. I was just fucking.
But I'm just bullshit though, fucking with our rap niggas.
You know, when I was getting into timity, the whole,
the whole rap culture was my target because I know

(40:42):
me and most most niggas in the rap industry aren't
who they are want their on camera. Uh, there's some
different kind of niggas, uh. And so I wanted to
I wanted to attack the image that the imagery of
the hip hop culture home, that gangster image. Oh yeah,
and so that's that's what I've been sitting out to do.

(41:04):
So that's why I come out from the gifts saying, Nigga,
I tell all you niggas, Nigga, I want to be
the nigga in the neighborhood that feel good to call
the police if I tell you not to walk in
my grass, you need keep walking in my grass. That
old nigga. So nigga, yeah so uh uh and then
you let me let me say that you came out

(41:26):
like that, but now you looking like the rap nigga.
I was looking like this photo in though it's just
at that time I was broke. But if you caught
me when I wasn't broke, nigga, I was looking like that, y'all,
just when y'all put the camera. I was just broke
at the time. But if you called me seven your
phone in nigga, I had the call to the jewelry. Nigga.
I've been a strip club nigga too. Yeah yeah, niggas

(41:46):
ain't no no nigga. So it's just magnified now. But Nigga,
I always been this, y'all. Just when I was broke
nigga frustrated, going throwing the time. Now, oh oh, Nigga

(42:08):
caught me at a time home and when I didn't
want to do nothing wrong, even if it meant being broke. Nigga,
I ain't want to do nothing. I didn't want to
do nothing wrong to get no money. I didn't want
to beg the community to you to do what Big
you did to take the money, because you see what
I'm saying, nigga. So I didn't ask the community for money.

(42:28):
I said, hey, y'all, i'm having backpacked school supply. Can
you bring me backpacks? Pencils, paper, Hey man, I'm having
a shoe giveaway, can you bring So I never asked
for the money because I didn't want to even be
tempted to do what Big you did. Nigga, take this
money and go buy some weed with it. Take this,
I ain't even want to be tempted on it. Oh

(42:49):
and so and then I didn't want a bunch of
money because I feel like if I got a bunch
of money, I do just what I'm doing now, said man,
fuck the community. So I never asked no money because
I was passionate and I was walking in purpose at
the time. But nigga got burned out.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
So because you didn't get the money, like through funding,
you don't feel obligated to the community. Well, if you
went and got it on your own.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Oh no, y'all went and got them own. Well, I
had a I remember meeting meeting the guy uh in
Saint Marco's at one of the Texas Juvenile Justice or
department events, and men did the white people seeing the
passion and they seeing Charleston. If you don't put no

(43:32):
business aspect with all this passion that you have for
the community, you're gonna get burnt out. Because that's what
happened to most black leaders who they so passionate. Nigga,
they giving their time, Nigga, they staying at the church
later or the community center. They're going home to their
wife and their wife or their girls saying, baby, you
show up, been gone all day, baby's late. Uh, he

(43:53):
got to get up early in the morning. And go
right back, and so the family looking at you saying, man,
he spend a lot of time, a lot of energy,
but we still in the same position. We're struggling. You
don't become a hero to them people out there. But nigga,
your your value is diminishing inside of your home, just
like the preacher. So uh, Nigga, after years of that,

(44:16):
and then you fighting with the community, you fighting with
the community, becauldn't shit happening in the community, and you saying, man,
nigga them nigga shout up an old woman house man,
I hate you, Nigga, I fuck you. So nigga, I'm
fighting with the community. And then got to go home
and explain why I'm helping the community. But it's not
making progress at home. So now, nigga, Uh, Once you

(44:40):
study all our great leaders before us, all of them
died broke. And I didn't want to be dumb and
stupid like doctor Martin Luther, king to die out here
a nigga fighting these people. My own people might kill me,
and Nigga, my kids won't get nothing. I didn't want
to be like Malcolm X, who kids grew up. And Nigga,

(45:03):
the boy set the house and killed bitish. Your bad
grand kids don't have no reference for what Malcolm did,
nor the black people. I didn't want to make those
same mistakes. So uh, there's a there's a scripture in
the Bible that says a wise man is one who
who who focuses on storing up eight inheritance for his

(45:24):
children's children's children's So I didn't want to ignore my
children's children's children and be out trying to repair the community.
And I can't repair my own home. So nigga.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
And and having having gone through that, uh just so
happy to be on the internet, and the internet became
my outlet the nigga I'm frustrated, man, fuck you, and
I'm broke. Uh And yeah yeah, So now nigga, uh,
the Internet, the Internet woke me up.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
You think you to the point of no return in
your character, Like I gotta stay.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
In there here because I still I still do community
work or yeah, yeah, you're not home may Uh. I
still I still speak at school, I still do I
still do youth work. So now that's as far as
on the internet. Uh, because I'm making so much money
from it, I get paid, I get paid. Nigga ten

(46:25):
thousand dollars just for an enview.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Say, but you gotta stay charged in white though, you
know what I'm saying, like.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Or because because in person, I get to be me
the nigga in person. If I be the Internet carrier,
ain't nobody gonna like me?

Speaker 3 (46:37):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
If you don't be the internet character on the Internet,
do you think it'll work if you go back like
the bowtached wag?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Nah? I can't. I can't ever go back to the
botched wag. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, can't
you rite you No, No, you're right, No, I can't.
I can't ever go back to the boat. And you
can let them up, all right? Bed Uh, I gotta,
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta. I would have to
let the gray bird grow like Dick Gregory, So I

(47:06):
would have to make the transition like like Dick Nam did.
So that's gonna be a transition that's gonna take place
at some point, for sure, you know what I'm saying.
So uh uh eventually that's where it goes back to,
uh what I started out doing. Eventually, because uh, this
this is just a vehicle. Uh that that they gave

(47:31):
me a bigger voice to what I was already talking about,
because I still haven't gotten away from what I talk about.
You just putting what you call it, what you say
you shot the shock, the shak and a uh well
mixed with the satire company. So so intellectually I had

(47:52):
to I had to to find some type of way
to evolve because because the social media platforms was demonetizing
this character, they wouldn't let this character make no money. So, uh, nigga. Intellectually,
I had to, Okay, nigga, let's go to comedy. Well,

(48:14):
how can you take this type of character, this type
of nigga that's been saying this type of shit online?
How can you make that funny? People? And people been
offended by that shit, people getting upset about this shit.
How you gonna make that funny in comedy clubs? Uh
think that shit is horrible? Well, if you put the
right type of it's like it's like being diagnosed. They

(48:37):
got to diagnosis for everything. Oh, I have to diagnose
this shit. Okay, this is satire comedy. This ain't funny comedy,
This ain't this is sat dark humor. So just don't
make your laugh at time, this is offensive. So once
I was able to identify what that character can do, uh,

(48:58):
it was easy to transition to comedy.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
So basically you transition it right right right before our
right now.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
But because this video of me testifying as a kid
takes me back to the beginning of why I even
got on the internet getting into it with this culture,
because I've been defending kids that had to tell because
I'm saying, Nigga, we got to be a fucked up
community to put gangster codes that Sammy de Bull had
to follow on our children. Nigga Mama come in and say, son,

(49:29):
you need to tell the nigga go again, Mama for
a street code at twelve thirteen fourteen. Think about this money.
He's saying, your niggas will smoke your ass. Oh, but
they're not smoking you cause they hate you and they aintry.
They smoking you because they're impulsive. That's why the Supreme
Court rule that you cannot give a kid life without
parole because the mitigating factors is that kid have an

(49:50):
undeveloped brain and the human brain does not developed to
act all around the age of twenty twenty five years old.
Based on the prefront of cortex. This kid did not logically,
rationally and reasonably kill you. It was out of impulse.
This kid done this with an undeveloped brain. You asked,
this kid, why did he really don't even know? It

(50:11):
was what he felt. And he come from abuse, he
come from traumbor he come from neglet so his brain
might not even develop to you, thirty, so you want
this kid to make so. But but when it's time
to sentence this kid, when you're playing black against white,
you're saying white people should give this kid a break

(50:32):
because he's a kid, then white full wrong forgetting a
nigga seventy years and nineteen years old. You say they're wrong,
But you look at these kids with your street codes,
just how the judge look at them when he sentis them.
You applying the same street codes on your kids. I'm
applying these same harsh laws on them. Yeah, but I'm

(50:54):
wrong as a white judge. No, you're wrong as a culture.
You devour your children with these codes.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
So how do you how do you determine?

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Like, if you're a nigga out here and you see
a kid with a with a with a shisht mass
on with a pistol trying to take your ship? Do
you do you not hold him to the same standard
as a man with a gun.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah, you kill him, but you kill him. You kill him.
What I'm saying, But you both understand he not developed.
But but but this is different when you're saying the
court of law. This is not the streets. See, y'all
keep applying everything to the streets. Everything that y'all try
to understand, you try to understand from a street standpoint. No,

(51:40):
I'm saying, if I'm if I'm a nigga that work,
why do I look at this? If you're a nigga
at work? What you mean work? You know what I'm saying.
If I'm a working nigga and I see a little
kid trying to take my car, but I know his
brain not developed, what you gonna do? You call the
police on him?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
How it's a good point.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Give him the car? You give him the car. You
know how many podets I had in there. Nigga doesn't
kill somebody because he tried to wrestle with the gun.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
See know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
But I got a gun. You you you? You? You respond?
How you respond? You kill him? You shoot him? Your
it's your life of my life situation.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
But do I supposed to feel bad because this is
an undeveloped kid. No, but you do supposed to have compassion.
A natural, a natural, a natural human.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Would feel bad because nobody want to kill nobody when
you have, when you're a natural human being, nobody wants
the burden of having to have and take somebody's life.
Because when you lay down and go to sleep, this
don't go away, nigga, This don't go away, and that
burden of that soul, niggas placed upon yours, nigga, that
don't go away. So yeah, you're supposed to feel bad,

(52:50):
even if you had a right to do it. It's
just like when the police have to shoot somebody, they
feel bad. Now I want to kill nobody. Some of
them do, but most of them don't. Most people don't
want to kill people on me. That's only in black
people mind. Most people don't want to kill nobody, only
black people do. Black people are only savages. They want

(53:14):
to beat.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
They made us savages of the music, the lyrics, the
lyrical content.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
So I remember, I remember being in church one time
and the preacher says faith comes by hearing hearing the
word of God. Well, if your faith comes by hearing
whatever you're hearing, then all we hear is what we hear.
Fuck you bitch, kill nigga die how fuck? And that's

(53:40):
from the time we wake up. We'll go at work
and we'll play this music. We're getting the card and
we play this music. So it's almost like a spell
just being put on us. It's almost like a spell.
It got the right kind of tempo and beat in music,
the drum beat the tap into our souls so that

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that murderous spirit and violent spirit can enter into our minds. So, nigga,
So our kids, Now, we wasn't walking around with earplugs.
We had a walking but we didn't walk around all
day with it on. Our kids walking around all day
with earbuds on. We don't know what they're hearing. We

(54:24):
don't know what the devil whispering in their earth. So
now they got a new they got a new vibration.
I'm on demon time, nigga. When have we ever as
a culture tapped into the demonic side of anything? So
this is some different shit. So I'm saying, nigga, we

(54:46):
done went so far as to place in street codes
on kids. Nigga, We worse than the white folks when
they used to take their kids to the hangings and
wash the nigga hanging from the tree and set on fire,
and they take pictures. And they got the white babies
and the white add ust out there with the smoking

(55:06):
flesh right there, and they're taking smiling pictures. We're worse
than them. So if God came down today and ask
you charge and what should I doll enslave black people again,
put them back in Chaine, hit the reset button. So
it can produce a greater of people. So so it
can produce a greater group of people like the slaves did.

(55:27):
How the slave gonna didn't you see what slavery producer.
Nig It was great people when they come out of slavery.
What mean they were great people? Like what they built
Black Wall Street. They was loving their families, was intact.
They had skills. They wasn't violent, they didn't harm people.
They didn't hurt people. Then people just want to be
left alone and enjoy freedom. This group hurt people, wake

(55:50):
up to hurt people, look to hurt people. This group
needs to be put in chains and separate, raded from
house nigga in field nigga again. Man nah Man, I said,
break saying she and I said, with no smile, break
it down on one. This group needs to be separated

(56:12):
again as house niggas in field niggas. Most you feel
niggas just go say no snitching. Most of us house
niggas is go say yeah snitching you run away off
the plantation, they gonnahoop all of us. You think I
ain't fit to go? Tell boss y'all talking about running away,
they might, they might sell yo mama, I like your mama.

(56:32):
I got a crush on your mama. They gonna beat
all of us. And y'all talking about running away with
that freedom talk, you can't think of nothing else but no,
nothing else nothing. I can't think of nothing else that
will approved the conditions of black people today other than
changing slavery. How long or four hundred years like the

(56:55):
last slavery to reproduce the exact same thing. Man, It
was some great people, our great grandmothers and great grandfather
and them that had land, knew how to work the
land didn't give them down. They wore couple rows and jail. Man.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
What you say, man, you got the folks brainwash the he'll.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
Tell how am you right?

Speaker 1 (57:19):
They ain't never heard of the proposal? High brain? Watch them?
This is this is their first time ever heard me
say this? So how they brain? What more?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Tell you?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
The Resett is right.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
But in the change and chain whips and niggas need whipped,
niggas need lashes on their backs, and they ass again
you niggas need new names, gloom to Marca master William boy,
ain't you Marster William? Slave? Niggas need new names? Who

(57:52):
gonna be the slave owner? White folks? They've done it
the best. Who more better than the en slave niggas
than white people? Nigga, they got a method that's proven
the work on us. So you don't think we ain
slave now, You don't think we ain't change now? We ain't.
But the niggas in prison is.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Because some think you don't think the internet got us
in slave?

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Oh yeah, you you you are absolutely right. So because
that's a new world. So so we're not enslave in
this physical world, but you're you are a digital slave
when you log on into the metaverse world unless you're
making money. If you're making money's like shirtcropping because they
making money out for you that you gave you a

(58:34):
little piece of they land and letting you. So it's
shirtcropping if you monetize. But if you ain't monetized, of
course you're a digital slave. So I don't. We'll have
heard nothing about being back in slavery. If I was
just slavey, I would have done this. You are, You're
doing what you would have done, cooperating you ain't you?
You you? Because nigga, it is metaverse world and you

(58:56):
are slave and by you being on health with your
time and your energy, people make resources and money off you.
Just being off the off your labor sort of your time,
however long you're on the people making trillions of dollars
off you.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
That's just one person, all right. So so God came
down and asked Charles, and what to do. You're gonna say,
put the niggas back and put the.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Back and if the if the.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Music industry came to you, the culture God came here
and said what to do?

Speaker 1 (59:31):
What would you do? Band?

Speaker 3 (59:33):
All rap music, all rap music, dream.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
All modern day rap music from the gangster era, But
you like I do? So band Tuba Tou your band
Tupac two. Your band Tupac two. So what type of
rap music? Though? MC hammer too legit to quit? H

(01:00:08):
what like that? Oh you know Nelly, Nelly is getting
hide in here. Your song like that? Okay, you sound
like that? Yeah yeah, you sound like popular rap.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Music, pop like songs. Yeah yeah, So okay. Put ass
in chain.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Band for a least ten years to create a new
mindset of children and banned for at least ten years.
Give they mind something else to hear and to perceive
and to project.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
And Supreme Court system said, you can make one law.
What would that be?

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Hmm? Make one law, ship man. It's a hard one.
It has to be a law that children. I will

(01:01:12):
make a lot home where all children records are sealed
at twenty one years old and they get the same
opportunity that I got in life. That's a good they
get the same home. Cause right now today, nigga, you
get in trouble. So you get in trouble at fourteen
fifteen years old for stilling the bike. It don't go away, niggas.

(01:01:32):
I was afford to opportunity because I lived in the
state of Texas and my governor at the time was
Anne Richards in Texas law at twenty one years old.
My record was sealed, so there's no history for this
other than that that video. That's why I ain't. Nobody
came to no paperwork. My records were sealed, so they
do a background check. There's no history of me ever

(01:01:53):
being locked up for Mrland. I got a second chance
at life. My nigga was looking at you at schools
after you did that. I didn't. I didn't go to
school or nigga. I was in the boys home till
I was wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
What about boys homes in July whatever, nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Uh, everybody had murder cases. So so I went. I
went to getting State home in school, which was a
facility for the houses Texas most violent youthful offenders. So
the age limit was from uh was from twelve to
twenty one. So uh, it probably about about four hundred,
four hundred kids. I had four hundred kids. I think

(01:02:32):
it maybe like fifty girls. So it was a co
ed facility.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Back then, the street codes wasn't applied, so a lot
of kids had testified against other kids. So that that home,
that's the street codes hadn't applied. It's a lot of
niggas who got caught murder cases sixteen seventeen and nigga,
you don't know, your big homie told, but he told they.
Homeboy just ain't said nothing. Uh But Nigga I went
into the boy's home. Uh. Within one year, uh shiit Nigga.

(01:03:06):
I joined the gang because the the camaraderie did the
brotherhood uh and it was fun nigga fight and had
you know it was fun nigga so uh and and
and at that time, Gang Bang was just starting to
take off ninety one ninety two, so yeah, about time.
By time a year and a half in Nigga, I had,
I had joined the Rolling Sixties. Uh oh Nigga. Yeah, yeah,

(01:03:29):
I had joined Rolling Sixties Nigga and and and and
had you know they were calling me see that my
little gang name, seeing that krypt nut uh so nigga
I was. I was still rebelling against Mama. So I
remember I remember writing Mama letter telling Mama I enjoyed
the game, scratching out to b uh Nigga trying to
find his independence away from that single motherhood Nigga, trying

(01:03:51):
to find nigga, really nigga. Most nigga been trying to
reject Mama. That's how they ended up in the street
running for mama. Mama boy. They won't be Mama boy
no more. So Uh yeah, no, Nigga. So I started running. Nigga,
I ran that facility by the time I was by
the time I was sixteen years old. On that stand,
I ran that facility. I was a little old, bited nigga.

(01:04:12):
I wasn't the toughest. I wasn't the baddest. But then
I'm a sharp little nigga and I'm real charismatic in
a group of people. You know, Nigga, I was a
motherfucking there. But I'm just playing because I want to
be accepted. Think about this. When I was five years old,
I fell in the washing machine. I broke everything from
my waist down. Nigga, I was in a full body

(01:04:34):
cast from five years old to like seven. I had
to learn how to walk again at seven years old.
So Nigga, I ain't really get to play outside. I
ain't get to go to school. I had a private
tutor just seven. When I was eight years old, I
put my eye out playing with a homemade slean shot.
I had to have nine eye surgeries from eight years

(01:04:54):
old to twelve years old? Where do I get to
be street and learning streets in between this, Nigga. So
when I'm in the show from eight years old to
twelve year old, I'd have had nine eye surgery before
having my I removed. So I had my I remove
in the sixth grade. So nigga is sixth grade? Really
the seventh grade, Nigga, seventh grade is the first time

(01:05:16):
I done got to go a whole school year and
be a regular kid. Eighth grade, I catch a murder case.
How I'm a street nigga, Nogga, I'm a handicapped kid.
Been out here playing bullshit? Nigga. How I'm a street nigga. Nigga,
I just learned how to watch my hand. How I'm
a street nigga. Not to snitch nigga, Nigga. I've been
in the hospital all my life, Nigga. I finally get

(01:05:38):
the nigga. Come on on, I'm just hanging with some
kids to fit in. So when I get to the
board home or nigga, I get exposed to the game culture. Well,
coming from a single parent home, being a little disabled boy,
not being able to play football, Nigga, the game culture
was everything that nigga was looking for when you were

(01:05:58):
a young braveheart. I'm a young braveheart. I'm just just
you know, been having some medical issues. So Nigga, when
I get the game court man, I want hand because
I want to be accepted. I want to be a
part of something.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Ain't none of this. I ain't this. It ain't in
my heart. I'm just going through an adolescent stage where
a nigga rebell it going against right because the culture
promotes wrong. But as you grow up, you beginning to mature.
Now my brain developing at eighteen, so Nigga is sixteen.
I'm already two years in on the murder. When it's

(01:06:32):
time to come testify, I'm already two years in. Nigga,
I ain't no killer. Somebody lost their life. You want
me not to be honest? And somebody lost their life, Nigga,
I used to tell the truth of them. Time to
get a whooping. Nigga used to tell the truth of them.
Time to get a whooping. You want me not to

(01:06:53):
tell the truth for murder and this is the ultimate
crime and human existence as a key it. You want
me to be that tough that tough. Depending on how
you was raised, you can be I wouldn't raise like y'all.
Let me ask you something, So, do you think that's

(01:07:16):
what make you like? Got this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Against games now? Because you feel like you was like
you feel like you was chasing some ship that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Was make believe just what I know? This would make
me go after it because the culture tricked me. The
games didn't. The culture. Black culture did Nigga before Black culture,
before game came. We were dancing nigga. We were doing
the kid in play. Then we're going to house for

(01:07:47):
the nigga we were doing, but we weren't biking short.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Yeah, hemmer pans, come on, man, them shoot.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
With the gold tips them Georgia routine. Come on, man,
we just left this now two summers later, we want
dickies in Chucks. The culture shaped this. So when I
grew up, I say, man, they tricked me. As I
began to develop mentally as a as a as a
young male into a man and then became a father,

(01:08:24):
and I began to reflect on my life the type
of home I came from. Nigga supposed to go to
law school, Nigga. I was getting saving bonds in the eighties.
Nigga in the fourth and fifth and sixth grade. Nigga
even know what saving barnz ill. Nigga had a piggy bank,
I got a weekly allowance. Ain't got a piggy Niggas
niggas wasn't comprehending that kind of talk. So Nigga, when

(01:08:46):
I look back on my life, had I listened to
my mama? Had I done? Nigga, I supposed to been
a lawyer in law school with all these niggas that's
running these companies, just living the square life. Who we
were thinking was wrong but was right. So I realized
the core to trick me. So here come now I'm
grown with kids. I started noticing nigga, the culture tricking
this group too. From working with kids. That's where my

(01:09:10):
that's where my shit come from. Then they go trick
another group of kids with this bullshit. They tricked me
and won't thinking the gangster ship was the way because
gangsterism was promoted through hip hop. They started showing easy
in Nwa, behind prison balls, express yourself, that's where it
starts at. Then they start showing the chalk outlines in

(01:09:33):
the Tupac video with the gun. Then later on in life.
They showing the kids the bodies they was, they was
indoctrinating us. So Nigga, we indoctrinated our kids. Most gangster
niggas got a son or two just trying to play
gangster in their shoes. But once they grew up, the

(01:09:54):
other kids ain't got nothing to do with the gangster shit.
So I'm saying, Nigga, we gotta attack this culture because
Confucius one said he who controls images controls minds. They're
controlling us through hip hop imagery, gangster killing, dying niggas
in jail. So when I look back on us, they
showed us Superfly, the mac or Penitentiary one, Penitentiary two,

(01:10:20):
or Colors, Boys in the Hood or nigga we started
adapting to all this that we had seen by way
of the culture. So now the whole culture, the whole
black culture street and we're seeing our kids supposed to
follow the street codes too, even if they talk or not.
Yea half, these niggas ain't standing on the coal. So

(01:10:43):
how you expect the baby too overhelf? Not only of that,
you telling the kid to go against his mama. If
my mama say, tell me who done we go. You
seeing me and you supposed to not go against your mama.
Me and what we teaching our babies. Ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
You got me looking at it in a different light
because I feel like, because you know, as soon as
these niggas, somehow many these nigga, these nigga be on
line with them switches and all that shit. Somehow when
they put up the nigga high school diploma picture, you
know what I'm saying, or is football picture? So I'm like,
I'm thinking in my mind, you know what I'm saying,
thinking like from you know, some street shit like nigga,

(01:11:22):
you know what you're doing. You pick up that pistol,
you shoot a nigga, you know what you're doing. But
you saying nigga brains don't develop today.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
I'm not saying that. All the medical data and research.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
That's what I'm saying. But but but I'm getting it
from you, like I never knew this until you just said.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
This, like so so homedy. That's why when you ask
kids why you do that, they really don't know. When
they say I don't know, and you be saying, yeah,
you know, you old enough to know how much they
children are impulsive. They don't make logical decisions. They don't
have the brain capacity. So there's a component of your

(01:12:00):
is called a prefrontal cortex's right in the front when
you're young. It's a space in between. As you get older,
it grows and then it connects. That's why it age
twenty five twenty six is like a light come on
in life. That's why the insurance companies don't allow the
rapes to go down to after this age. This is
knowledge in science and medical studies. So the Supreme Court,

(01:12:25):
that's the law we worked on to get juvenile life
without parole of bodish in this country based on brain
development factors that was presented to the Supreme Court that
says these people cannot make logic decisions at this age.
I don't care how horrendous the crime is. So so
I'm telling people, I grew up with children who kill

(01:12:49):
their mothers and their fathers. I grew up with niggas
who raped nine month old babies. I grew up in
niggas who tortured and murdered and raped old women. And
I'm telling you there's no such as a child with
a cold blood and heart. Yeah, I grew up with
am Nigga seven years of my life. We went to therapy,

(01:13:10):
We went the groups together. Children mimic what they see,
they repeat what they hear. All behavior is learned either directly, indirectly,
or by observation through environment. So when you see this,
Nigga been abused when he tote that gun shooting, and
I guarantee you he have. That's why he's so angry
and ready to fight that pistol. But Nigga, I don'et

(01:13:33):
watch all my partners. I know Nigga. I met niggas
in the boys' home in ninety one, ninety two, ninety three,
ninety four, ninety five, ninety six. I got out of
ninety seven. Many of them niggas went to prison in
ninety three, ninety four, ninety five, ninety six, in ninety
seven and they did eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty one, twenty two,

(01:13:53):
twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,
twenty eight, twenty nine thirty years for crime they committed
when they was twelve thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old. Can
you imagine Nigga being locked up thirty years from twelve
years old? Terren sampson did. He stabblished next door they
but ninety three times when he was twelve years old.

(01:14:14):
What kind of monster can drive that in a child? Well,
he wasn't no monster. His daddy used to beat him.
The same shit that his daddy did to him, he
did to his victim. Nigga did thirty years old, almost
thirty years twenty nine and a half years old, and
he was a good kid when he got to prison.

(01:14:34):
He didn't stab nobody in twenty nine years. If he
was a monster like that at twelve years old, at
some point within twenty nine years he gonna repeat those
actions again. He never did. He got out of prison,
never killed nobody. So Nigga, I can go line up
over fifty men who I was locked up with his children,
who are all committed murders. They're different now that they

(01:14:57):
shit don't grow together. Yeh hey, let me ask you some.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
What you think, like justify the death pending like what crimes?
Uh no, yeah, yeah no, So nigg shouldn't be put
to death for nothing, no at no age?

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
No yeah, yeah, I don't even agree. You're supposed to
a death pant for kidding law for uh yeah yeah yeah,
life for my kids and ship life. Oh you ain't
God America killed kids, Nigga drop bombs and ship in places. Men.

(01:15:39):
Kids ain't out let me drop on kids all the time.
Police kids kill Tom Rights. Yeah man, yeah, man, fucking
kids given life ain't that important because kids ain't that motherfucker. Man. Listen,

(01:16:05):
if kids with that important, just say you just said that, said,
these folks ain't even developed, but they ain't. But kids
ain't that important because if kids were that important, we'll
put way more focus on. If kids were that important,
there was no there would be no way we would
allow drill music to have gone on. As long as
you're saying kids, ain't you ain't saying it ain't that

(01:16:28):
important in your eyes? Are you saying like the world? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
it ain't that important to the world because if it would, Homie,
there's no way we would sit back and allow what
we what we got going on. There's no way if
kids with that important, Homie, we would have been created
some type of task for us that went against hip
hop's drill music scene.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
See, I'm gonna tell you what we're doing bro right here. See,
most people, let you say ship and just let you
run with I get clarification, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Mean, yeah, and then I let them let me run
with it whether they Yeah, but you saying, hold up, nigga,
so you really getting clarification. Most people don't do that. Yeah.
And then and then how I hit the internet Like
he said, kids ain't that important? You said, kids ain't
that important? If they were, y'all be doing this. Yeah,
get only only intellectual people like yourselves is picking.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Up on this.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
And there's a lot that's watching this. Just do you
got me breaking it down for the people that go
hear that and just run with it. Yeah, yeah, And
I'm saying this ain't for them, no way. Fuck jeed.
Those that hear get it. Homie. You can look at
me and tell anybody can watch me said man, nigga
really trying to do some kind of good. He ain't
that fucked up? The nigga say some fucked up shit?

(01:17:43):
So you the mother fuckers to god sins, can say that.
But if I done offended you, you can't see that.
You have to put your feelings aside home it to
really hear what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
How you always falling out with niggas Like what happened
with you in Wooded like like y'all were chilling him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
They played me and Wooded against each other. His uh,
his management team used to work for me, so she
me and his management team, we were best friends. Uh
at one point in time, she's you know, she's my
best friend. Uh. Me and her fell out because she
got my business between me and my lady. Rather than

(01:18:25):
staying my friend and my employee, she she got my business.
So so that's how I mean. Uh anyway, yeah, yeah,
anyway you know how you know how to you know,
side piece main piece? Uh yeah, she ain't yeah. Uh
and she got information on both. Yeah. So me and
her fell out. So initially when she started trying to

(01:18:48):
manage Woody, Uh, she was able to get with my name.
I used to be charging some White's publishers. Uh. So
she used the old contact list to get him his bookings.
So uh she comment asked me to help him with him.
Uh I didn't. I initially, I didn't want nothing to
do with it because uh I was fucking with yeah
got it at the time. Yeah, got in them family uh.

(01:19:10):
Uh thugg them people. Uh, you know, doing a lot
of ship out here in Atlanta. Uh, that would have
called backlash to the people who I was doing it
with from from fucking with wood it. So uh, she
had hit me up again and asked me to do something,
and I was like, man, I don't won't do nothing
with no nigga who don't kill people unless they're trying

(01:19:31):
to walk in redemption. Uh So once he done a
Dangel Project interview, Uh yeah I had I had seen
something different, Like you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Know, you feel like he really walking in his walk?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he really trying to. But but but
you know, uh, at times I see a nigga standing
the fence. At times I still see where he won't
he won't motherfucker to know who and what he used
to be. And he still he don't want he want
to remind people of the time. I see that they
come with it though. Nah, you knowthing, No nigga, Uh
when when when you shed the skin, you shd the

(01:20:03):
skin when you are snake and you shared your skin,
you shid that old skin? Yeah uh ain't ain't no
you you cleansed, you you you you removed, you even
removed the residue.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
What would you tell him to do?

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Like right at this point, Oh, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
tell him to do nothing. Uh, because nigga, I ain't
got no being in watching him. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I ain't got no being in watching him. I wouldn't
tell him to do nothing. Oh but but I'm just saying,
like if it was you and you be like and
you see he wanted, he wanted, not just him just anything?

(01:20:39):
What what? What? Just would I tell anybody like him?
Saying and actually tell him all the time, hummer, remember
you got victims, You got people tone actually killed and hurt.
I always remember that, nigga nothing them Mama and dadd
and them still over there. Uh. I paid my debt

(01:21:02):
to society, but I forever owe a debt to my victim. Ever,
so h knowing that, uh and and taking responsibility for that.
Uh that that takes empathy. You gotta have empathy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
I don't see him really show empathy for the victims.
He salute thug thug the greatest rapper, but uh, the
other shooters. But I don't never make hear him make
reference to the victim. So that would be my advice.
I can't forget them victims. You niggas really hurt people.
People really died behind what you nigga was doing and
did uh h. I ain't never hurt nobody. Yeah, yeah,

(01:21:48):
I hurt feelings, but I ain't made nobody, mam.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
But and it's new like you said, but it is metaverse, metaverse,
and it's metaverse.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Feelings is new death.

Speaker 5 (01:22:01):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
Once you hurt the nigga feeling, they feel like they're dad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Yeah. Uh yeah, that's that's that's if you're operating as
a woman with a man's you know body. A man
ain't move by a feeling. You're right, A man ain't
move by a fit. I be laughing at this. Yeah,
the little boy and the woman staying there and the
little girl stay in their feeling. Oh that's why the
mama got to holler at the kids all day. Shit

(01:22:26):
in her feelings. Uh, that's why the kids arguing back
and forth. Uh. I ain't brought home to the people home.
So when I'm getting into it with the niggas, nigga,
I saying, Nigga, at the end of the day, y'all
brought home to the people. Fuck with I done said,
you used to shoot up shit and kill ship and
it got a history of a documented So when I
look at him, and I say, man, at one point

(01:22:48):
in time, Atlanta, Georgia, has you ranked as top ten
most violent people in Atlanta because you were hurting people? Oh, Nigga,
share Kell, We mad the motherfucker by me fucking wooded.
My my nigga was getting all kind of backlass from
niggas in prison. He was just way in the background

(01:23:08):
in the picture. He ain't even in the picture. Nigga
them blew up the picture seeing him in the background. Man,
why you fucking with him? Man? So niggas Nigga was
mad at me and Atlanta for fucking wooded. Uh, but
I I saw, I I saw a nigga that really
was trying to or repent.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
Oh, let me ask you something too, Uh, you say,
niggas gotta remember that they did see the people. Okay,
what about a person that you can see they do
got empathy. They do feel as if though they they
done switch it up and they walking in their real light.
Those are the warn God users or they they they

(01:23:47):
become the light in the dark past and everywhere they go,
they light up the pass those people.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
It's just like Michael Jackson in the video Billy Jean.
Everywhere he stepped on the sidewalk. Light up. Those people
like that up everywhere they go. Their hearts are different.
How can you tell them? Uh? Their actions? Uh? They

(01:24:14):
they display a level of compassion uh that the others
seem to can't understand.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
Somebody like you for me, but the ship you know,
appreciate that but for the but the shit you know
never go nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
So it's like you bailing yourself every day.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Right, that's an internal battle that nobody knows happened. That's
that's that's your fight, that that you keep to yourself.
You're your internal battle. Or niggas like that. You do
something in them? They in they mind first and any
think nigga will kill you because they don't kill before,
you don't know. But this they thought and and and

(01:24:50):
because they change and they have a different heart. Even
the thought arises, you have to walk yourself back from
that thought to uh to have compassion? Or how many
strong people do it every day? Niggas who that know
how to fight and that's disrespected and they have to
do that every day? Could they could they really hurt somebody?

(01:25:14):
Niggas that really hurts you are like sheep and every
day they have to walk themselves. So that's an internal struggle.
Just like the nigga is playing tough really weak, that's
an internal struggle. That's why playing some more fun tough facts.
That's an internal struggle. So uh, it's just that that
one of them causes dark darkness when they show up

(01:25:36):
and the other ones bring light. So the nigga you describe,
I like to say it is the light pole in
our communities. Them them, them, the niggas the light poles
in the culture. Wherever they they lighten up a path.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Let me ask you something, what's the struggle? What you
think the struggle is for that nigga? Like like everything
gonna come at that nigga for the test right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
From everywhere?

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Yeah? Uh is that God? Let me ask you something?

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
Is that God saying like because you know when you
I feel like and I always say this, like when
you pray for certain ship, he don't actually give you
the money. He gives you the opportunity or the thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
To go make it the way the ways to go
get it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Yeah, get ad for strength. He puts you through ship
to show you that you're from right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
So if you if you're trying to change and be
a different person, do you think he's gonna send you ship.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Yeah, you go through because the comp your confidence in
who you're becoming, is what you go through and you
overcome it. You get in the situation, uh, and you
get angry and you feel like hurting somebody and you
don't hurt nobody. Once you get past that. Yeah, it

(01:26:52):
feel hard at the time. Yeah, you be questioning chefsing man, nigga,
think I'm a whole man, nigga. Once you go through
all that, Once you get past all that, your level
of confidence in who you becoming increases. Now started to become.
Now you becoming confident. Oh boy, nigga, ain't like how
I used to be. Now you can talk about it invincible,

(01:27:12):
you can come in you become. Yeah. Now, But but man,
you mentioning your feelings out your feting, because any nigga
that another of instinct or impulse. You just you got
poor feelings management, your motherfucking feelings. You You you like
emotional emotional intelligence like that? You like that impulsive kid.

(01:27:37):
You like that impulsive kid. You're acting off impulse. That's
the mentally retard that's the mentally retarded. Nigga. He mentally
so he goes to his feelings. He can't think through
his emotion. And that's the problem with most Black males.
They can't think through the emotion. That's where emotional intelligence
comes from.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Now, I had to tell my son is I broke
it down him the way he got it. When I
was like, bro, if a nigga can show you can
say something to make you feel something, he can fuck you.
When we talked to bitches, we say something to make
her feel hot to fuck her. So if a nigga
talk you out out of your life, he can talk
out your ass.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Dim niggas independ time I started to do it, they
stopped taking it them. Nigga did this new group of
prisoners don't take but they talk to them niggas out
of it. I heard them, Nigga said all the time, man,
niggas talking to them niggas out their ass. They ain't
taking it. So you ain't lying. Now that's the truth.
Like cause nigga can orchestrate your feeling. Nig go to
macing on you. Niggo to Mack and on you. Man. Yeah,

(01:28:39):
niggo to Mac telling you it's gonna be all right
and all the other kind of shit and you, yeah,
you need some comfort. They gonna give you some comfort
the world.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
I heard you say one time, like jail at the
best place for.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
A niggah or for for for behavior modification. It is
if and and and and in the the the masculine,
the development of black men, that's one of the best
praces to see him. Uh when he come from uh,

(01:29:13):
when he come from the hood, when you come from
the hood, or or he ll he's embraced the hood
concept or believe if you got the hood mentality or
jail in prison is one of the most best places
in unique places you can go to be developed as
a black man to farewell in society. One of the best,

(01:29:35):
h one of the best. Prison in jail is one
of the best places for black males to go who
have a hood mentality for them to develop to be
positive males in society.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Oh, I just didn't hear that shit, my emotion.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Because because because what I'm saying a vine, you member
what you mean for a nigga on to jail man,
So you turned you don't want a little bit, yeah, man,
nigga saying some bullshit but nigga when you look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
But ever nigga they go to jail, come back by
like bro, They'll have been thing for me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
A very few come out worse, worse than what they want. Yeah,
but I'm just saying, like a man nigga, go in
there as a little boy, come out as a man
nigga like shit, but that shit really saved me. Yeah,
I can think, no, I can.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
You know what I'm saying. I learned respect, I learned discipline.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
I hate, I would hate to thank God. It's just
cruel that he actually uses prison to preserve the life
of today's black males, because if you don't send them
to prison, they're gonna die out here in the streets,
or they're gonna kill enough people where they're gonna get
life with our parole and ruin their own life. So

(01:30:47):
it's best to send them to prison the way we've
been sending them to prison over the last thirty years.
If nothing else, it preserves their life where if they
if nothing else, they get to live the back end
of their life from their thirties oner or they forty
on up. But you catch them motherfuckers than them teens
to them thirties, they gonna throw their life away from

(01:31:08):
the folks. So there used to be a concept in
the criminal justice community. There's a theory that the criminal
justice community believed that if you lock somebody up during
what they call the prime crime years. Prime crime years
used to be fifteen to twenty five. Fifteen they used

(01:31:29):
to be used. So that was in the seventies eighties.
Gett a nigga at fifteen, let them out around twenty
one to twenty five. Don't have no more problems out
of them. For whatever reason, the prime crime years changed
because of the hip hop community. Now you got niggas
starting crime at twelve. You got niggas joined the gangs

(01:31:52):
at ten because of this shit, and they becoming criminals
down there till they forty. Ni still holland cubs in blood.
He joined in at ten, He's still hollering on Piru
at farty. Imagine you take his ass at ten years
old and lock him up till he forty. When he
come home and forty, he don't be hollering on Pou.

(01:32:13):
He'd be hollering Osalam Malakam while Masalam my brother. So
these people been studying this shit and it ain't been wrong,
So I'm just coming with a different one.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Hey, hey, if you had to guess, right, if you
had to put yourself in that room after they said
slavery was overwhere right? The planning after that, like for
nickas you know, because there was a plan after slavery,
they had to come up with another plan.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
What would you guess that they planning was, oh, how
many people were born into slavery, So they didn't they
didn't know, ain't know what to do some stage white
people or the white man, or to put them back
in slavery. That they did like their last time homed.
Their plan was to put us back in slavery in

(01:33:16):
what way though, because I'm gonna go and change? So
what way you think they did it? Because it worked?
Something worked, Well, that's that's that's that's where they came
with the fourteenth Amendment and saying we're not we're gonna
We're gonna make them criminals. So the plan was to
team the thirteenth. I'm sorry, the plan was to criminalize

(01:33:39):
all of us. That was putting us back in change
because slavery was only abolished except you've been duly convicted
of a crime, So why you think the conviction points
it up? The conviction rate? Shit, why you think that
lays it our feet that one in every three of
us will go to prison or be on some form

(01:33:59):
of unity supervision in our lifetime. So that's saying, Okay,
you nigga might not go to jail to prison, but
how many you niggas get probation A bunch of you,
a bunch of you, and then between you getting probation,
you go go to jail. You gonna do this, So nigga,
we're gonna hinder you some form another by way of
this criminal justice system. That was the plan, and it's

(01:34:20):
been working. Nigga, that was the plan.

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
What's the rest of the because I'm thinking, like this Internet,
all this ship is pre playing well, having to say
hip hop all.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
This shit it. Hip hop was a phenomenon that nobody
seen that that would would take America by surprise that
they dismissed with hip hop. Probably they didn't take this
serious between hip hop and the Internet. They couldn't have
predicted that. Howmar they didn't think them beat bocking ass
nigga would go become what it is today a worldwide Now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
I'm saying, but when they saw it able to predict it,
they had to start trying to challenge it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
They did. Uh, that's where the That's where guys like Tupac,
who was poetic turned gangster, went from dancing. Nigga went
from dancing. That's when they took control. By the time
they took control, you had black leaders. Uh, when they
was trying to channel it her come to East Coast

(01:35:24):
and West Coast beef, divide and conquer. Now we got
Now you got black politicians like mister Lauris C. Tucker
who done got hip. And see what they're trying to
do with this genre of music. She started trying to
go after the genre of music the young niggas in
the general music. Fuck you bitch, de Laura's Tucker. You

(01:35:46):
was a motherfucker, So Nigga said Nigga. She get pushed
out and nigga, they take full control of his industry.
Now just what we got, nigga all drilling, killing music.
We used to have a variety of music LLL Cool,
J Common or Andre three thousand. You used to have

(01:36:06):
a variety of different type of niggas that rap. Now
you got all one type of rapper, a killer rapper,
a killer rapper. Ain't no more variety of type.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
You know, but it but don't it always switch up.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
I think it's gonna switch back over the summer because
at first it was the hustle rapper.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
Like you said, niggas won't in school want to see.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
A Well, well that was the plan because during that
time when hustle rapper was it, we were still in
the middle of mass incarceration and they were still using
the drug centers and laws to rick havoc amongst the community.
So they were using the music to push this to
feel mass incarceration as well as to shape these laws

(01:36:50):
from drug trafficking niggas. So they was able to gather
up everybody through the music by way of the culture,
by way of drug trafficking. Everybody's sitting dope because of
the music. So it wasn't it wasn't just a It
wasn't a trend that that was that rapper set or
this was intentionally done to fuel mass incarceration. This was

(01:37:14):
the new Jim crowd. Did this the new Jim Crow.
We just can't identify because we enjoyed as entertainment. But nigga,
this is the new Jim Crow.

Speaker 4 (01:37:25):
That's what I'm asking, Like in the room, they had
to come over with all this shit. They didn't come
up with hip hop.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
I'm just saying, like, well, they they had to figure
out a way to deal with it because nigga, this,
this was hip hop, was revolutionary for black people, had
it for self destruct. Nigga was a revolutionary kind of
movement in the beginning. So they had to take it
and commercialized gangsterism to to kill the revolution the revolutionary

(01:37:52):
spirit in it. They had to her Tupac after mp MD.
I'm a public enemy, nigga. Uh. They Nigga never was
starting to go into politics right before he were getting killed,
starting to have speeches and yeah, man, the niggas, Yeah,
they had to.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
They had You think them, niggah keep it dating them
out of the nigga You think that ship really?

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
Yeah? Uh, it was a fun game when he was
giving an interview, laughing or getting paid for it. Now
you crying, nigga, I want out of jail, man. They
ain't got no come man, but nigga. Three years ago,
niggas he was talking about how Tupac would break dancing
when the bullets was hitting him, and and and and

(01:38:39):
accounts that he was giving Homie. Many people already knew,
but he played itself. He got federal community. He didn't
get state community. But this is what I'm telling niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
So that don't override state.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Two different entities. You got federal community, I stated union, yam.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
I thought the Feds over supersede everything though, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Oh, I know niggas still gotta go do state time
out so they do their FED time. Oh, I know,
nigga gotta finish their state time and then go do
their FED time. Yeah, or when they want you, they
want you. What about Shug Oh they just denied should
go die in there, probably should do interviews and ship

(01:39:26):
now yeah, oh he telling he talking. We told them
he telling situations and talking on everything. You're saying, just
talking to Yeah, how much them niggas in jail. He
won't out. The judge just told him we denying you.
You gotta fit do the rest of them twenty something years. Oh,
me and nigga saying anything from that jail.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
High You think Puffy had something to do with the
post ship.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
Or yeah, they know it, everybody, nigga, they got man,
they know it. Why you think they're after him and
Keithy D said it, Man, God damn Puffy say he
said it? Oh so what what the what they got?

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Pupa locked love for THEO?

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
For real? What is it? Charge? Sex traffic? It's a
rico chuck uh one nigga on a rico? Now what
It's supposed to be sex crimes? But it's only a
couple of victims.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
What's the sex crime? I'm saying, like what him.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
Flying them holes across state lines for sex work, to
perform a sexual action? Him paying them every nigga, undid
that every nigga with some money, every nigga with some
money with intention on having sex and getting us some
money for coming.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
They were drug him in the party. How many victims
do this?

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
Just one on the case Cassie, everybody else? Symbol seven.
I'm saying, if a motherfuckers do something, you you're gonna
go criminal. Civil, Oh, I'm going criminal, then sivil like
Nicole Brown Simpson family, they hit OJ criminally, Fir, They're
gonna put the criminal charges on them. Third, because it's

(01:41:15):
gonna be hard to win civily and you ain't win criminal,
So I'm gonna go criminal. You think he come home
who puffey. I think it's a good chance here. Yeah,
I think it's a good chance he's coming home. Oh,
they ain't got enough on him own thing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
And you a supertrol, brother, where you come from?

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Or the Internet? The Internet created this homie or because
when I came to the Internet, a nigga was genuinely, uh,
genuinely trying to convey a message of black empowerment and
and and and and and and and youth development, youth engagement. Uh,

(01:41:59):
but nigga in it that wasn't trying to hear that shit.
The Internet was saying, you ain't never killed nobody. I
look at your eye, I look at your dreads, I
look at the interior in your car. So nigga, nigga,
the Internet didn't give it, damn by what I was
saying with youthon gave me. So I'm saying, nigga, And

(01:42:20):
everything on the Internet was negative nigga, fight videos, nigga.
So I'm saying, why would I come here to be positive? Nigga?
Why would I come to the Internet to be positive?
So that's what made me create the trolls for what's
the end goal? For t the end goal that what
you see now man, so movies or comedy tour, comedy

(01:42:41):
shows or the stand up comedy or I got another
movie coming out. Uh so, nigga transitioning of the Internet
personas the Internet character, the the trolling traits and characteristics
and putting them in stage in on the movie. Home.
So that that that's the end? Uh Instill talking his talk.
Niggas take you literal? Oh no, hell no, man, nigga

(01:43:04):
really shouldn't even be paying me, no motherfucker mine if
they ain't looking to be entertained, if they ain't looking
to be entertained. And then and in the process of
getting entertained, Yeah, nigga say some real shit with with
a message. Uh, but now I'm not here to deliver
the message. Uh, I'm here to entertaining.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
Do you think do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Have you ever respected somebody that responded like damn, I
did hear them with a bow.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
He's supposed to respond a bunch of them? Yeah, your
bunch of niggas. Uh yeah, your bunch of niggas. Uh,
y'all understand home. In the beginning, I didn't think you
niggas could hear me. We down here, y'all up there?
So the ship I'm saying about who nigga my in
my mind? Y'all. Look there, y'all can't hear me, and

(01:43:54):
y'all ain't even taking the time to hear me. I
didn't know my voice was reaching those those heights. I didn't.
I didn't know that. H And it was surreal. I
couldn't believe it. I mean, I'm like, man, I couldn't
believe it. I couldn't believe it. H And so, uh
that's when that's when I really start to begin to understand, Uh,

(01:44:17):
the power of the algorithm. It's not you have the
Internet and then you have the algorithm. Uh, the algorithm
is the monster. And so that's that's that's what I'm
tapped into. Uh So now, my nigga, I didn't know
people were listening. So it was it was it was

(01:44:37):
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my phone call. Just a great interview, homie. Spect with
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