Halloweentown

HALLOWEEN IS COOL! 
Will and Sabrina are watching a Disney Halloween classic “Halloweentown” starring Debbie Reynolds, Kimberly J. Brown and Judith Hoag.

This film premiered in 1998 as a Disney Channel Original Movie.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
You're big into Halloween, right, I am big into Halloween.
That's like you have you always been big into Halloween?
Or was it when you had kids? No?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, remember I did tell you a while ago. One
of the stories I was telling you was my I
didn't celebrate Halloween at all growing up. Not even that
was when we would go to Disneyland instead of trick
or treating. It was like a whole you know, religious
aspect of not celebrating the day of the day and
all this stuff. So my first Halloween, I was twelve. Wow, Like,

(00:43):
my costume was nothing either. It was jeans. It was
like cool kid costume, like being like, oh, we're going
to be flower power, you know. I have bell bottoms
like nothing, nothing, a little flower crown.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Like trying to dress up but still be cool in
him but be cool.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah. So no, not growing up, not at all. It
wasn't until probably I think the first year I want
to say I really got into it was when I
was on tour with the Cheetah Girls. We all dressed
up big time, found this really cool big we were
out on the road and I don't know remember, it

(01:18):
was like a haunted mansion slash at the end of
it was like a club type thing. Like that was
the first time really getting into you know, like a
full blown costume. And of course they were we were
you know, Disney after Dark. So I was like sexy
Alice of Sexy Alice of Sexy Alice.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
But since then, I've loved Halloween. I just I love
things that like people put on big productions of things
to go do. I love the scary you know, not
scary farm here or Hollywood haunt, you know that extra stuff.
That's part of what I love about Christmas too, is
you go and do outside stuff that's not around all year. Right,

(02:00):
That's the kind of stuff I love about it.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Okay, do you get now? Do you have a lot
of trick or treaders to come to your house?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, I do not live in a neighborhood that has
a ton of kids. So we head out to you
the Grinch. No, we head out to a neighborhood down
in Newport. And this neighborhood is I mean, to get
through all of it, you would have to take.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Probably two and a half hours, three hours.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's ever you would get though decked out.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's just awesome, so fun and Monroe was Marilyn Monroe
last night last year.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
She wore a tiny little blonde wig and everything, a
replica of a costume I wore for Dancing with the
Stars in Las Vegas. I made a full replica. And
she had those little click clack plastic heels little girls wear,
and I took her an extra pair, going She's gonna
last like thirty seconds in these Little Homegirl. She walked
around for forty five minutes in the She loved those shoes.

(03:01):
She was killing it. She loved her dress, her white gloves,
I mean everything about her. She just loved her so funny.
I hadn't. I haven't sent out a video of it,
but I probably should. Leading up to this whole.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I like it. I like it, so we got it Nice.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'll personally send it to you because I know you're
not honest.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
No, I just personally sent it to send it to
you guys, so you.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Guys can enjoy it. Well. Welcome back to Magical Rewind,
the show that makes you want to grab your friends,
your pjs, and your popcorn and go back to a
time when all the houses were smart. The Waves, Tsunamis
and the high School's musical I'm Wilford Dell.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
And I'm Sabrina Brian.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, as we've been talking about, it is officially that
time of the year people, Ghouls, ghosts, goblins, and pumpkin
drinks at Starbucks that have a ton a ton of calories.
Make sure you check the nutrition on those labels. People.
So we're doing our part and recapping the October classic
d com. Yes, it is nineteen ninety eight Halloween Town

(03:57):
a franchise in its own right. The original installment the
series aired on October seventeenth, nineteen ninety eight, and has
since become a yearly tradition for many fans, becoming one
of the many seasonal standards for Disney. Now, this is
so cool. The entire franchise was born out of just
a single question asked by the young daughter of producers
Steve White and Sherry Singer. The question was, where do

(04:19):
all the creatures from Halloween go the rest of the
year if it's not October thirty first and the rest
is history? Isn't that the coolest? I justz you never
know when you're gonna get that spark of inspiration, and
there it is. It was actually first conceived as something
very dark and scary for an older demographic for NBC
who passed on it. Then it was pitched to Disney

(04:40):
with a focus for kids, and they also passed on it.
But after the success of The Mummy centered first Halloween
dcom under Wraps, which we haven't done yet but we will,
they went back to White and Singer and said, Okay,
about that movie you were talking about that was like Halloween.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, apparently kids let Halloween.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
They do what weird? It's wait a second, kids in Halloween.
I never thought to put the two together, Peanut Butter
and Joey, You're crazy. It had a budget of just
four million dollars, which is incredible to think about considering
the amount of makeup and the costumes in the movie.
And it was filmed over twenty four very hot summer
days in Saint Helen, Oregon. Is it Saint Helen or
Helen's It was an Oregon and it was a Saint.

(05:23):
It is a town that now every year holds the
Spirit of Halloween Festival in celebration of this film. This
also marked the movie's twenty fifth anniversary last year, and
it has regular screenings every year all over the United
States to ring in the spooky season. It would also
spawn three sequels, Halloween Town two and No, it is
not Halloween Toown two this time it's personal, which is

(05:43):
what all our sequels are called. This is Halloween Toown
two Klibars Revenge in two thousand and one, Halloween Town
High in two thousand and four, and return to Halloween
Town in two thousand and six. And as you can
probably guess, Halloween Town is a Disney Plus favorite around Halloween.
So you can watch it right now in the streaming
service or just go Bob for apples and then listen
to us first. We're We're never gonna know frankly either way.

(06:05):
So we asked this every time. What was your your
history with Halloween Town? This had to be in your
wheelhouse because this is right in the Johnny Tsunami time.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Oh yes, I will say I definitely watched it, and
I probably watched it a couple of times, but it
was so long ago. While rewatching it, I started it going,
I can't wait for this. I've got my popcorn, I've
got Monroe. I'm so excited. It starts and I'm like, whoop,
It's like my memory just.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
What I really remember.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
The storyline that kept coming going oh yeah, okay, all right,
oh yeah, okay, years ago. It was I mean, it
just was. It felt like rewatching. It felt like watching
it for the first time, with a few things that
I remember. Of course, I you know, I loved it.
I had to pull myself back a little bit more

(06:56):
this time from being nitpicky and letting myself get into
because this is much like when we had the world
of you know, the superheroes and stuff. It's much like that,
where it's more comical or you know, like yeah, a
comic type cartoony, thank you. It is more that. And
I started nitpicking things and I had to like relax,

(07:17):
and once I did.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I mean, it just it was a blast.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's that's great. Yes, well, okay, so before we hide
on a flying bus and force our way into our
grandmother's terrifying neighborhood, let's get in to the synopsis. When
a young girl living with her secret witch mother learns
she too is a witch. She must help her witch grandmother.
We're gonna say, witch a lot save Halloween Town from
evil forces. So you then you loved it. That's your

(07:41):
early thoughts of you love this was?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
This was a great one. I love. I mean as
soon as it got going and I started, once it
started coming back to me, I was like, okay, when
they got to Halloween Town, now I'm in it.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Right. This is one of the few ones that I
had heard of, mostly because Kimberly's Abud your friend. Yeah,
so I you know, I but I'd never seen it.
But I'd heard of the film. I obviously knew the
film's popularity and knew that it had spawned essentially an
entire franchise. So I knew of the movie, didn't know
what to expect going in, had no idea, And I
loved it. I really did, because because exactly for what

(08:19):
it was, this was so nineties Disney Channel to me, yes,
kind of the magic system that doesn't make a whole
lot of sense, big fun costumes. It was. I was
in hook Line and Sinker. It was great.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
This was it. This was for me an incredible example
of what my Disney Channel was.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, I can say again we talk about the different
iterations of Disney Channel and this late nineties, big classic
kind of crazy costumes and get ups and weird little
brothers and little sisters and the grandmother with a secret.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's all it's y Aby from the start. As soon
as she starts her lines, it's like, Yeah, she's just
so amazing.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
She's just a child that just comes through the screen.
We saw it in Quints, which wasn't our favorite movie
but wasn't Dad, but still she was phenomenal, and I
know we'll have her. We don't have her on for
this one, we will have her on for one of
Halloween Towns, definitely. Halloween Town was directed by Dwayne Dunham,
a name we've mentioned before, as he also directed The
Thirteenth Year, the movie about the bar Mitzvay that we

(09:19):
talked about. No way it was about Mermaids if you forgot.
He was also behind the movie Little Giants and dcoms
like Double Teamed and Tiger Cruz, but is best known
as the Emmy winning editor of Twin Peaks, Blue Velvet,
and Return of the Jedi. Yikes. He was originally sold
on doing the movie because he was told it would

(09:39):
have a thirty million dollar budget, so imagine his reaction
when it had just four. But it really is his
complex direction with the inhabitants of Halloween Town that gives
this movie some depth and makes it look like he
had maybe not thirty million, but certainly didn't look like
he had. Four the movie stars as we were just
talking about, Kimberly J. Brown as Marnie Piper, a legendary

(10:01):
child actor who made history by being in three Broadway
shows by the age of nine. I hadn't seen three
Broadway shows by the age of nineteen. She also got
an Emmy nomination at eleven for her time on Guiding Light.
She was also in The decom Quins, which we just
talked about, as well as movies like Bringing Down the
House and Tumbleweeds. She appears in Uh this is I

(10:24):
don't even know why. I'm sure we'll get into it.
I just bear with me. She appears in the first
three of four Halloween Towns with a very controversial recasting,
so they recast her in four.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
There's no way, just seems like there's no way recannist
to recast.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
That no one else was happy about, and apparently most
of the rest of the cast was back, but they
recast her for shame, for shame, for shame.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Hard would it be for the rest of the cast?
So I don't pressure of the actor, the pressure of
the actors to create this chemistry. Oh gosh, I can't
believe it.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
It makes no sense. I want to find out.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Right, write out, write her out.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah. You know, one of our producers at a high
Heart we just had in our chat in giant letters
ruined me. Yes, so you it.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I imagine.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Oh that's my buddy too, So don't you dare anyway?

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Brown has also become a bit of a Halloween expert herself,
writing the twenty sixteen children's book Poppin's Pumpkin Patch Parade,
Say that five times fast Pop Parade, Popins, pump I'm
not on the tent, and running an Etsy shop with
some Halloween town themed merchandise. She got married in twenty
twenty four. We talked about that with Matres on the show,
but we will get more into that a little bit later.

(11:36):
And what we called the Dabney Coleman Chair but will
now officially be renaming the Coleman Reynolds Chair is the
legendary Debbie Reynolds.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh wow, and she was magical.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah. I mean, and people use the word legendary, they
throw that around. This is a woman who deserves the
moniker and it should be in bold letters and Neon
signs everywhere she went. Legendary Debbie Reynolds. She was a
massive get for Disney and it is undeniably the reason
why this movie has had the longevity. It's had. The
other cast phenomenal, but it's Debbie Reynolds. She had a

(12:11):
Hollywood career spanning almost seventy years. She's best known for
roles in movies like Singing in the Rain, How the
West Was Won, The Singing Nun, The Unsinkable Molly Brown,
which got her an Oscar nomination, and Mother, But she
was way ahead of her time as a multiple threat
the tabloid magnet. Was a pop star, a cabaret performer,
opening her own dance studio in North Hollywood, a Tony

(12:32):
nominated theater performer for Irene, A massive TV drawn shows
like The Debbie Reynolds Show and Will and Grace, which
also got her an Emmy nomination. She was also a
massive philanthropist and entrepreneur, owning her own Las Vegas casino
and hotel, and curating a very well regarded collection of
film memorabilia. Debbie Reynolds unfortunately died on December twenty eighth,
twenty sixteen, one day after the death of her daughter,

(12:55):
Princess Leah herself Carrie Fisher. Also for our younger listeners,
that makes Debbie Reynolds the grandmother of actress Billy Lord.
She is an absolute Hollywood I.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Don't know if you remember when Corbyn and I were
talking about this famous Debbie Reynolds studio.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I mean it's yes, I do.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Anyone who has worked a day as a dancer in
Hollywood has been.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
There or should have and it's still there.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Uh yes. And what was cool back when you know
I was auditioning when I was little, is you'd see
Debbie behind the counter as you're checking in, you're signing in.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
So you met Debbie Reynolds.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I mean in passing she was there, but it was
this was her place, Like it's so cool when you
felt her there, you know, it was amazing. And then
after going ever back that place is just like, oh,
I hope it just yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean it's she's Debbie Reynolds.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's awesome, yes, anyways, but it was cool for her
to be like working, not someone else. She was right there.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's amazing. Then we have Judith Hoague as Gwen Cromwell Piper,
another distinguished child actor. By the time of this movie,
she'd appeared on TV shows like Quantum Leap, Awesome Show,
Roseanne Awesome Show, and melrose Place Awesome Show, Ooh, Michael Anyway,
and the blockbuster blockbuster movie Armageddon. But she's best known
wait for it, as April O'Neil in the nineteen ninety

(14:20):
teenage mutant Ninja Turtle's movie. She is constantly working to
this day on TV, and she was seen in the
movies Hitchcock and I Am Number Four, and she does
appear in all four of the Halloween Town movies. So
we got a anyway. I'm sorry, I'm just trying. I'm
trying to move on from several things. Kim the thing

(14:40):
of Kimberly upset me, and now I'm just thinking about
Michael from melrose Place. So give me a moment. People,
It'll be fine. You'll be okay, I'll be okay. I'll
breathe through it. Joey Zimmerman plays Dylan Piper. He was
also a busy kid actor on shows like Earth two
and Frasier I thought Earth one was better. But most importantly,
he is only one of three other actors in including himself,

(15:01):
Hoague and Debbie Reynolds. We found out to do all
four Halloween Town movies. Now, we maybe getting a little
ahead of ourselves, but Halloween Town had been in the
news this year. This is what we're talking about. When
Kimberly J. Brown got married to actor Daniel Koontz, who
was her co star in Halloween two. This time it's personal.
They reconnected years later and now they are a husband

(15:21):
and wife and they have this movie franchise to think
and people think magic isn't real. The movie has a
brisk eighty four minutes, and man, it felt like it
was eighty four minutes. This movie felt short. It could
have been longer, which I very rarely say with movies,
but it could have been. I was enjoying myself and
it seemed to move by quickly. It was written originally
by Paul Bernbaum. He was the dude who had first

(15:42):
made it into the more adult version. Had credits on
twenty one Jump Street and the TV adaptation of Bill
and Ted's excellent adventure Strange Things Are a Foot at
the Circle k and Martial Law. He also wrote the
Nicholas Cage movie Next two thousand and six, crime mystery,
Hollywood Land, and then when Disney gave at the green light,
they brought in John Cooksey and Ali Marie Matheson that

(16:05):
were kind of brought it into Kit it Up because
they both came from the Rugrats universe and would later
go on to create the TV show The Collector together.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I loved Rugrats.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Rugrats was great. Also worth noting the score, which is
very very good, is from Mark Mothersbaw, who has gone
on to become a premiere name in music for TV
and movies. But the cool thing is he was the
frontman for what Whip It goodt?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yes, Divo, That's what Divo is? I love that song?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Did you just say that's what Divo is?

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I saw it in the paperwork, but I wasn't sure
what it was. Sorry, Little There's sometimes where I can't
believe you know what some of the bands, well, you know,
you don't know any of them. I could probably go.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Ahead, give me one in Syne. Moving on Sabrina. Okay,
let's say you can have one prop from Halloween Town
and it can't be either Posters, event Sync or Devo.
It could even be a costume you saw in the movie.
What's the one thing you would take to decorate your
home from Halloween Town.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Oh, to decorate I thought to have if it worked,
I would have taken a broom. That would have been cool.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
But no, we're gonna pretend that brooms don't work in
real life. It's a prop from the movie, not actually
being able to take magic away?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Does it have to like? I don't feel like any
of the.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
It's whatever you want. What do you want from the movie.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
It can't be a costume, because I yes, it can.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
It could be whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay, I'd like her cape. That cape was cool. It's
a good case, and I do feel like that cape
is something that I remember from when this franchise was out,
was the cape that is her cape throughout Okay, her
time on that that would be a signature thing as
a costume.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Oh, you're you're Marnie.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
You know, I got that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I'm sure you guys are going to get to it.
But I do want to jump in when you guys
mentioned the broom because I do want to say that
I think it's the worst prop in dcom history.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
It's awful.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
It's a color broom.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
It's off. That's it. Yeah, this is not the Nimbus
two thousand that you buy in Diagon Alley. By any
stretch of the imagination, this is insane. It's bad collar broom.
It really is bad. It's like what it's like one
of those really crappy rooms that they went make it pink,
it'll be fine, But they don't.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
They don't skimp on the other props either.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Because the thing that I would want to keep, I
would want the robot skeleton cab driver. Really yeah, I
want that in my house. That's god be a great
prop to have.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
He was better than the one that did some you know,
hip hop dancing.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh yeah, and what was that that was in uh
where where he's the cool kid and then not cool kid.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
He's got the remote control a genius.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Genius, Yeah, exactly. Yes, this is.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Definitely better than the genius skeleton. But he also was
a little didn't look real to me at all.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
No, but I don't think he's see That's the thing
that's what got in my head, or the thing that
I got was it was none of them were supposed
to look real. They're supposed to look like the spooky
Halloween things you see on the street in Halloween, right,
and this is the town they live in when they're
not doing their Halloween thing is in my head. So
it's like some of the costumes were bad, some of it,
but that like the pumpkinheads, but that's like supposed to

(19:22):
look like Halloween costumes, is what I thought it was.
So do you think, by the way, do you think
kids would be scared by this movie back in the day.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
As soon as the with the score, because the score
was very good as far as bringing that creepy.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah and an occasional jump scared.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
The movie starts, Monroe goes, ooh, mommy, this one's scary,
and I said, it's not gonna be scared baby. First
of all, right, here, it's not gonna be scared. Just
let it go. So that first scene it sets the tone.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yes, said the same thing, scary. She took my hand.
She's like, I'm here, baby. I'm like, i'm here, baby,
It's Sue, it's gonna be scary. She was like, it's
gonna okay, baby, I'm here. I know right. So yeah,
I felt the same thing I felt like with an
occasional jump scare that they went for, which again kind
of keeps you on your toes. Yes, maybe a little

(20:12):
more creepy than scary is how I would say. But yeah,
I thought it worked.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
All right.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Let's take a little trip now to Halloween Town. The
movie opens with spooky, scary music that we're just talking about,
and we find a lit jack O lantern by a
flickering candle in the wind until it's blown out scary.
Now from the darkness, we are thrown into a busy
Halloween night, tricker treaters everywhere on a suburban block. They're
going door to door but avoiding one house and mass

(20:39):
It is the Cromwell House, a family that completely ignores
the holiday, even though three young children Marnie, Dylan, and
Sophie live there. Their recently widowed mother, Gwen, is overprotective
and very fearful of all things spooky. All the spooky
traditions just don't seem to go well with Gwen. It
sounds weird, but we immediately realize there's obviously some thing

(21:00):
bigger going on here, and don't worry there is, because
we still have eighty two minutes left to figure it out. Ironically,
the thirteen year old daughter Marnie is obsessed with all
things weird and creepy, from lon Cheney to hieroglyphics, and
she just wants to go to a big Halloween party,
but she can't, and her mom simply says she has
her reasons, even if she won't tell them what they are. Okay,
very quickly, very very.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
This was my life. Well no, but it's also can
I go trigger treating?

Speaker 1 (21:26):
If you don't want your kid to go trigger treating
or do the big Halloween party. I understand that that's fine.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Stay home and watch it from the window.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Not just that, but why are you letting her two
other friends come over to get ready for the party?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, Like in front of her, her two friends are like,
this is gonna be the best party ever. Hey, we're
getting dressed up, and she's like, you can't have fun.
You're not going anywhere. It was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
At least my parents were like, let's get out of
the house. We're gonna go to Disneyland.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
You also knew why you couldn't celebrate Halloween.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
That's true. There was a mystery behind yes this.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
They just said. She's like, you can't have fun, and
that's my fault. Yeah. Her dorky twelve year old brother
Dylan is a real brown noser and likes things like
nature documentaries and Arbor Day, while the youngest seven year
old Sophie, in very very creepy fashion, just stares out
the window, dreaming one day that someone will knock on
the door for candy.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Why she's so creepy wish, I don't know, although I
will say this is one of my favorite sidekick brothers.
We have seen, sister.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
They were great, They were both good.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Oh if they didn't have Sophie, these kids would have
died warely.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it would have never lasted.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, they would have been bad. What do they call
it the bad way or the bad man? They would
have Yeah, yeah, that would have been it.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
But he had young Sheldon Vibes from the Big Bank theory.
I loved this kid. I loved his character, I loved
every He was amazing. One of my absolute favorite kids sidekicks.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
I do not disagree. So we already talk about whether
kids come to your house. They don't to be honest
with you, do I find you creepy. I wouldn't come
to your house either. I wouldn't trust you can Yeah,
now they are grounded for the night, these kids, these
poor kids, and separated from her friends. But defeated, Marnie

(23:13):
is furious at her mom and frankly rightfully, so, hey,
you can't go because I say so while we're having
your friends over to party is kind of mean. They
just want to be like normal kids, having their normal lives.
She knows for a fact that, for instance, her mom
and dad met on Halloween, and she just wants the
day to mean something to her too. And then a
magical bus appears in the sky. Somehow no one on

(23:36):
the busy block sees it, but it hovers until Debbie
Reynolds steps out. I assumed it was like the night
bus in Harry Potter where muggles cannot see it. Ye,
so I think Harry Potter the first book came out
in nineteen ninety seven, and this came out in nineteen
ninety eight, but who knows who wrote what first, but
they seem very similar, like a younger version. But of
the first Harry Potter book, it's kind of seems just

(23:56):
the world you're not exposed to, and you're a kid,
and you're hitting a birthday or a benchmark. This this
time it's her thirteenth Halloween.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Are there normal people in Harry Potter?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yes, Muggles. We've talked about this. The Muggles are the
normal people.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Muggles are normal people.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
That's what. That's what not in Muggles, that's what the
people of the world of Harry Potter. The Muggles are
the non magical folk. What they got it? Okay, you're
a Muggle. I'm not a Muggles on magic, but you're
a Muggle. Correct, that's good. Uh She's Then it hovers
until Debbie Reynolds steps out. She's the grandmother of the family,
Agatha or Aggie Cromwell. She pops open an umbrella and

(24:31):
in a very d and d playing Mary Poppins kind
of way, yes, bloats to the ground. She instructs her
duffel bag to join her, but it's being defiant in essence,
shaking its head like a little pet dog. But eventually,
and it's so cute. I want a little cute, little
little pet you know, it would be my What do
they call them, not safety animals, they're the mental health animals.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Oh gosh, no, I was gonna say, I can't think
of the name.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
What am I trying? Yeah, like that kind of thing,
i'd want that.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I'm emotional support, Yes.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
There it is. I want my emotional support handbag to
follow me around everywhere. That would be great. Eventually, the
magical piece of luggage joins her and jumps up into
her arms. In my head, it had a little purr
and I would name it, yes anyway.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
But also cue you could just see where the string
was pulling to. Oh yeah, I know, maybe I call it.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Because it's like a purse. Oh I'm clever. Back in
the Cromwell home, Sophia is pining away at a plate
of cookies, which, of course she's not allowed to have
any of those either. It's just a mother denying all
these kids anything fun, even on Halloween. You didn't allow
them out of the house to trick or treat. You
can't let the kid have one cookie before dinner. You
can't let her have one freaking cookie.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Before dry because it's all nerve wracking that this is gonna.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I get it, But y then what then? How do
you not distract your kids from from the fact that
it's Halloween, like your parents did, Take them to Disney World,
take them to a baseball game, do something to where
I want you to sit in front of this window
and think about how you can't do anything fun and
you can't have a cookie. It was like, oh my god,
So Sophie, it's pining away at the plate of cookie.

(26:07):
She keeps pouting that she's not allowed to have one.
She's just chanting, I really want that cookie, until magically,
behind her back, the cookie starts to float towards her.
Mother whispers oh not again, and catches it and stuffs
it into her own mouth. It turns out that this
little girl has magic powers already.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
And every mom can relate to this, because anytime you
want to have one, but you know they've already had
too many so they can't have anymore. But you want
to have fun, it's tough. And then try to talk
about it like without them knowing that.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh, I'm so glad that's what you meant, because when
you said what all moms know about this? I thought
you meant all moms know about their kids having magic
powers and trying to suppress them.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's that like you try to eat something that the
kids can't have, but then they ask you a question
in your mouth is full of the thing that.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Well, that's the that's the yeah. That's the famous Seinfeld
bit where he says the best part of being an
adult is eating a cookie whenever I want a cookie
and he goes. Sometimes I'll call my mom and say,
I just ruined my entire appetite, which is which is true.
But hey, there is a one surprise that at least
the kids are gonna love on Halloween, and that Grandma
Aggie appears in their house. It's been a year since

(27:12):
she's visited, and the kids are thrilled, but Gwen, of course,
does not look enthused. Aggie brought presence in that logic
define suitcase, which I'm now calling Percival and is filled
with candy, a pentagram necklace, a jar of eyeballs, a skeleton,
and even a necklace of garlic to ward away vampires.
So again, this is it's not just Mary Poppins, though

(27:33):
it's also in D and D. They're called forever bags.
So there's Harry Potter, Hermione has one. It's just the
bags that can hold everything. These are. It's a very
famous magical trope of j I've got a bag. I've
got a bottomless, endless bag. But yeah, I also had
a question. She's bringing garlic to ward away vampires, but
vampires are friends in town. So why do you need

(27:56):
to ward anything away?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
There's a cup that was one of my Sabrina Sea
is going, wait, yeah, I thought this was part of
their world. Why are we making be right afraid of friends? Yeah,
they hang out, they go to the dentist.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah. Also, the magical system needed some work. It was
very all over the place. Yeah, she could snap her
fingers and turn a dead chicken into a live chicken,
but she couldn't unfreeze somebody who was still alive. Like,
none of this is This is where the D and
D side of me goes. Wait, but if I roll
in eighteen, it'll be fine. Uh, it's it is what
it is. Grandma reminds Gwen that this is Marnie's thirteenth Halloween,

(28:35):
her thirteenth year. She's going to turn into a mermaid.
Oh wait, thirteenth Alloween. That's the lucky number. And Marnie
is excited that somebody finally appreciates her weirdness. Marnie reveals
she even gets deja vu a lot. Grandma seems interested,
and Aggie pulls out costumes for the kids. Marnie is
a wicked Sophie is a ghost, and Dylan is a Viking. Warlock,

(28:57):
though he thinks he looks like a pimple. But Gwen
is not impressed, and it is now time for bed.
You can tell she is just not digging Granny being there.
The kids beg for a nighttime story from their grandmother,
which Gwen eventually allows, so while the kids are getting
ready for bed, Aggie admits she wants the family to
move back home, especially with their dad now deceased, but

(29:18):
Gwen loves living a normal life. Grandma only brings chaos
and candy sounds pretty awesome. There's no need to fight.
Gwen and the kids are here to stay, and Aggie
is not allowed to talk about her home during the
bedtime story. She promises she won't, but in what Pod
meets World listeners know as an optical flip, we cut
directly to Grandma waxing poetic to the kids about Halloween Town.

(29:38):
She has framed it as a fantasy with goblins, gnomes, banshees,
ghosts and witches. But it's obvious this magical place where
many different sorts of people exist, is real. Dylan thinks
it sounds a lot by Cleveland. The residents aren't mean,
they're all just normal people. Even the ugliest and slimiest
of monsters are very kind hearted. And when Dylan, who's
a total hater, says this place can't be real, Grandma

(30:00):
pulls out a Halloween town book filled with illustrations of
the town and a last page that shows a drawing
of Marnie flying a broom. Is this a coincidence or what?
I think we addressed this before? You liked scary stuff
as a kid, right, yes? Did you have a favorite
like scary horror goose bumpy thing that you used to

(30:20):
like watching when you were young?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I watched I think the scariest that I went. I
like when I say I liked scary movie. That wasn't
until I was older, not so as a kid. I
think as far as I went was are you Afraid
of the Dark?

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Okay, I was on that?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yes, I remember you selling me that and.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Then which was a great show, by the way.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yes, And so I think that was Goosebumps ever a
show or was that just a book series?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
No? I want to say it was a show as well.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
It was. Yeah, yeah, it was a show.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Was it a book series though?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Too? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Arl Stein okay, yes, arl Stein, okay, Yes, So that
was like a favor of my book series, like what I.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Liked to there's now a new there's now one on
Disney Plus as well, But don't don't leave us yet
for that, keep nice nice.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
But yeah, so that was kind of as as far
as I think I went. I don't remember having any
staple Disney movie. What about you?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
No, I did not like scary movies, then I do
not like scary movies now anything that messes with My
problem is I'm a very visual learner, so I essentially
it's not quite a photographic memory, but very very close.
So if I see something and then try to sleep afterwards,
I just keeping rewatching it in my head and I

(31:39):
just so scary movies don't work for me.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, I cannot.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's like caffeine. My body just can't take it.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
So anyway, their mom, who is at this point just
a genuine buzzkill, walks in as she's telling a story.
It's time for Grandma to leave. This ain't working out. This,
of course, breaks Marnie's heart. She is the one person
who truly gets her, and now she is leaving. But
at least she has the Halloween Town book to look

(32:06):
at downstairs. Aggie and Gwen are really getting into it.
Gwen specifically told her not to talk about Halloween Town,
and Aggie is scared that Gwen is breaking the tradition
of the Cromwell Witches. Gwen does not want Marnie to
become a witch. She wants her to be more like
her human father, but Aggie warns if Marnie doesn't at
least start the process tonight before she turns thirteen, she
will lose her powers altogether. They don't get into what

(32:29):
that means by what's starting the process, because by the
next day she's in a Halloween town. She hasn't studied anything,
but now she has her power. So I guess the
process maybe just means accepting the fact that she's a
witch and can be trained, maybe taking a bus ride
on a magical bus ride. They don't. They never really
get into what the training is because there is none.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
So we know that Sophie the little Sister, has powers
that are just coming to her naturally. Why is that?

Speaker 1 (32:59):
No, it did happen to Marnie because remember, even Marnie
says to her, didn't that happen to me when I
was younger?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (33:07):
She does? She says, did it happen to me when
and and Gwen says, yes, that you were the same
stuff was happening to you when you were got it?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, And I think it's hitting the boy last because
he's the He doesn't want to believe, so even being
in Halloween Town like this is just a dream.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
That he would be different too because he's a warlock.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, he also gets angry. It seems to be like
also in Harry Potter, when things start to when when
it's something emotions emotionally involved in some way, Yeah, exactly.
Just then Marnie creeps down the stairs and hears all
of this, because of course, if you don't want your
kid to know anything, have kind of a loud argument
about it in the kitchen right after they've gone to bed.

(33:46):
This is when she catches her grandmother turning chicken leftovers
into live chicken, which is a snap of her fingers,
again showing that there is no real magical system and
we don't know the extent of anybody's powers. Again, this
is me just being a total nerd D and D fan,
But stuff like, as you're a fantasy nerd, stuff like
the magical system real important but helping Marnie isn't the
only reason she's visiting. She also needs Gwen's help. Her

(34:08):
Halloween town neighbors are in trouble. They're turning angry out
of nowhere then disappearing, and she needs another Cromwell witch
to help figure this out. But Gwen can't just leave
her kids for a threat that doesn't even sound real.
Aggie is offended and she leaves like.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
She was just supposed to leave the kids of the house.
There was no work. Yeah, why can't they?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
She can't? It's also are you I understand that they've
set it up that the Cromwells have a lot of power,
But she said there's other witches, even says, why I'm
asking another witch get five or six witches together? It
seemed like you just needed to chant one thing like hands,
and why did you not? We'll get into it. This
is this is where my nerd nitpicking comes in. Has
nothing to filmmaking or enjoyability. It just has me going

(34:54):
like waity, thinking that's where that's when.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Are they going to explain? I need more details about
the power. I was the same way. Well, I actually
like shut my brain off to finally and I finally
was able to do it. What we're getting to right now?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Okay, I again, I can shut off some of my brain.
I just just just build out the and I'm hoping
in that the subsequent movies maybe they build out the
magical system. Yeah a little bit. Again. Gwen doesn't want
to leave her kids. The threat doesn't even sound real.
Aggie's offended and leaves, warning that Halloween Town could disappear forever,

(35:34):
and on her way out, just to give her one
little uh huh, she turns the fried chicken back into
regular chickens. Marnie runs off to tell her brother, who
thinks she's crazy, but then they catch their grandmother leaving
with the moving suitcase for the bus, and Dylan assure
it's probably just a remote control toy Marnie, which I'm
sure when they shot it is exactly what it was.
Marnie runs off to catch her. She doesn't want to
miss her chance of becoming a witch. A skeptical Dylan

(35:56):
tags along, just in time to sneak to the back
of the bus without anybody noticing. This all so showed
me something strange, magical, where you could have conversations five
feet from a witch and they're not going to know
you're there. You could sneak onto a magical bus. Nobody's
going to know they're there if you open the back
door of a regular school bus and alarm goes.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Off, right, That's what I said. One of my first
thing goes It was just first of all, unlocked, right,
because somebody had to open the side door. Yeah, I
mean the bus driver opens as as they.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
See any of the apparently they sneak unlocked.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
There's no alarm. I'm not going there's no alarm. They're
right there. They don't look like anyone else. They don't
look like witches. I mean no, even grandma has a
somewhat looking witch out.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah. Yeah, if she's not a witch's at least a
Stevie Nicks fan. Like we're closed, so yeah, you gotta.
I mean, but that was yeah, there was There.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Was no no hiding. It was just all out there.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
No. But anyway, once they're on the bus, it takes
flight into the air and the kids notice they're surrounded
by Frankenstein lizard monsters and witches. What the frankensigned lizard
monsters in which is don't notice is the two kids
sitting there in a seat in the confusion. They eventually
land in Halloween Town, smack dab in the middle of
their large downtown area. It looks like any old timey city,

(37:13):
very Gilmore Girls even, but there are tons of costume
characters going about their business. Another impressive part of the movie.
They didn't have a ton of money for the background actors,
so they used actors over and over again, just having
them change costumes to be new characters. And I instantly
just the masks. Yeah, you get you go, you go
around a circle, throw on a new mask. But I
instantly added to my list of bucket list actor things,

(37:35):
background background actor in some Star Wars movie, background actor
in a Halloween town. I want to be one of those,
one of those characters walking around putting that on the list,
throwing it into the ether now to see if that
one comes back to me. Did you have a favorite monster?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I will get to one, uh in my Sabrina seas
because we're right there and you're not bringing this one up,
so I mean you didn't.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
It's either the cop which is interesting, but I really
liked this again, the skeleton driver was one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
But yeah, and actually there's two of them coming up
because one I thought was super clever, and I thought
it was so adorable. I loved it.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
We are off the bus now. Aggie runs into her
friend Harriet, who seems quite lovely, except that she'd baked
muffins for people at the headless shelter. Silly Harriet, they
can't eat, they don't have mouths. Eventually, Marnie and Dylan
eggs the vehicle. They're in awe of all the sites.
Dylan thinks he's dreaming, but then they see their little sister, Sophie.
She also snuck onto the bus because she senses something

(38:33):
bad too. Maybe it's just this is a sneakable bus
because they didn't notice her coming on either. Just then,
the mayor, a warlock named Calibar, approaches them and also
pulls a lollipop out of his ear. They introdces themselves
as Aggie's grandkids, and he knows their mom, Gwen. He
even his eyes light up. He seems to be a
little bit smitten with her. The mayor calls over Benny,

(38:53):
a reckless and dad joke filled skeleton cab driver, to
drive them to their grandma's. This is a very cool,
practical robot in the movie. I loved it, it's my favorite.
On the drive, Benny warns them that this neighborhood isn't
always safe, pointing to the one local thug who doesn't
look like he'd be that tough to take, who thinks
he's hot stuff because he's got a nose job and
had a wart recently removed. But upon arrival to Grandma's,

(39:17):
she's surprised to see them, but not as surprise that
she should be, considering she doesn't know Marnie heard she's
a witch from upstairs. Anyway, since Aggie can't call their
mom because they can fly and do everything else, but
they haven't figured out long distance in Halloween Town, which
I thought was actually kind of a fun little twist.
She figures she can take care of them for a
few hours and even get some training in for Marnie,
kind of explaining that time works differently there. Two hours

(39:40):
in our world could be two weeks in Halloween Town.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Very catch going, wait what, wait, hold on, how how
that's only a couple hours away? What how do you know?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
And yeah, and then they explain it and then, which
I liked, It's like, okay, explain the magical system a
little bit. We need that, we need that, but anyway,
above all else though, Aggie still needs to get to
the bottom of the evil in the town because she
knows it's only going to get worse and they need
to use bump them all. They pull it out Merlin's
talisman to stop this. Did you know what a talisman

(40:11):
was beforehand? No? No, we're gonna play you some D
and D. You're gonna start knowing what a talisman is.
We'll get you there. I see you as maybe a drow.
I don't know. We'll figure it out. I don't that's a.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Blue I'm probably supposed to be offended by that.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
No, not at all. They're really cool. I played one
for years yet No, really cool.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
You could also is the D and D when you
keep saying that, is that dungeons and dragons?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Okay, quit, I'm done now with this podcast. I would
like to thank everybody for sticking with us as well.
And how are you supposed to know? Yes, it's Dungeons
and Dragons?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Okay, well, then why are you mad at me when
I actually guessed?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Because it was again, it should be a no. It
shouldn't be a guess it's D and D because Okay, okay,
you know what, you know what we're gonna But here's
what we're gonna do. One night, we're gonna play Dungeon
and Dragons, and then you're gonna teach me to dance.
So we're both in misery.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yes, will, because while you were doing that, I was
that dance class.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
When I was sure I was.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I wasn't playing games.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah you're friends. You had friends, is what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Friends.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
I was training, I was trading exactly. I was too just,
and all these things said.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
If I wasn't doing that, I might know some of
this style.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I who wanted to go to parties and have girls
attracted to me. I would much rather read books about
elves that didn't affect me at all in my life.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I'm trying my.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
You are, and you're doing I love it. So Haggie
tries to awaken the talisman, but it doesn't work, and
one of the reasons is she used instant, which is
brew and she knows she which is very clever, but
she knows that she needs to make it from scratch,
so Marnie offers her help. Aggie needs a vampire fang,
the hair of a werewolf, and the sweat of a ghost,

(41:58):
all things they can get in town. Great way to
set up a story, because now the scavenger hunt begins. Yes,
all this while back at the Cromwell home, Gwen finally
realizes that the kids are gone. Now look, yeah, I
mean that's gotta be rough. I've running something. I feel
bad enough when I don't know where my dog is

(42:18):
curled up. Now in town, Aggie is parading the kids
around with pigface men and goblin bowlers walking by. She
explains monsters tried to live with humans once, but it
didn't work out. It was essentially the dark ages. They
couldn't get along and the anger turned monsters evil, which
they actually aren't. So that's why they have their own town.
Very cool. Then this is one of the jump scares
we're talking about. They bump into Harriet Boom, the pell

(42:41):
that Aggie saw right when she gets off the bus.
But now her face is kind of mangled up and
she's growling like a beast. It looks like the quote
unquote bad thing has gotten to her. And that was
pretty scary. That was I thought the scariest moment for
kids because it like it was the jumping out at
the head coming out in Jaws kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yes, yeah, whoa.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Then Aggie sees made Kalibar and runs to him. He
has to do something. Harriet is a wild animal now
and just hours ago she was fine. Now she's going
to disappear soon too. This is exactly what Aggie's been
telling him about. He says, he's very concerned and she's
uncovered something serious, but she has to leave it alone
for now. She just he asked, just give me two
days to look into it. But man, he seems shady, shaters.

(43:20):
He's definitely hired. He's hiring something. Hey, it's just he's
hiding something. I'm telling you. He's just like, again, bring
it back.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Give it he's giving me.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Willy Wonka meets Ted Bundy. Yes, because it's Willy Wonka.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Bro. Yes, it's like so weird looking just so.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
He brings me right back. And you know, now that
I even think about it, even the actors even look
the same. He brings me right back to Michael on
Melrose's place. Didn't didn't trust him then, don't trust him now?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
It's the Brows.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Whatever it is, it got me yelling at my screen.
Aggie consents that he's hiding something too. Meanwhile, Marnie is
found the Broom shop, which is run by some sort
of Elva Skelton. Hey, how's ever doing, baby? She's she's
perusing the brooms. They're all very colorable rooms that looks
like you get either CVS or Walmart. A lot of
things we were talking about Producer Jensen hopped on that

(44:09):
look great in this movie. The brooms are not one
of them. They really look bad. It is just bad bad. Yeah,
make cool looking brooms again.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
In this whole world, and we're seeing so many incredible costumes,
these brooms.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Just make one if you want to do it that way,
make one hero broom, like one prop broom that just
looks amazing, and that's the one she wants. How can
I not do that? But while they're shopping, they're bullied
by that kid Luke that the taxi driver warned them about,
the one with the nose job. He says he's the
big cheese around town now, and Marnie says, oh, that's
what I'm smelling, the big cheese now with that singer.

(44:46):
He threatens them he's friends with some very powerful creatures
and they need to be careful. But let's find out
what the Elvist skeleton has to say about Luke. He's
turned into such a win Hi.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
If we did it seventeen more times, that would have
been what my actual I'm like, he's not, I keep going,
He's not. I go, babe, get in here? Is he saying? Wiener?
And George's like, yes, he obviously is saying.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
How's Elvis such a wiener?

Speaker 2 (45:17):
I think, why did that ever make sense for that?
Because it's said later on too.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
It was great he's turned in a such a wiener. Anyway,
they end up buying the really terrible broom and Grandma
Aggie decides to take it for a spin with Marnie.
They fly all over Halloween Town, eventually landing back at
the shop just as their mom, Oh Gwen arrives and
she is not happy. She wants them home immediately, but
Marnie says that she's there to learn and help her grandmother.

(45:47):
She is staying and I thought, good for you. Stand
up for yourself.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
He stirs up another huge fight between Gwen and her mom,
ending with Gwen taking the kids home. So she didn't win,
but she stood up. Now, this was my question other
than hey, I'm now in Halloween town and I know
that I can be a witch. Does this officially count
as her training starting? Because nobody's trained her in anything?
They haven't told her anything. N She literally hasn't been

(46:11):
given a single lesson in whatever.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
She's watched one spell happen with the which didn't work,
with the pot which didn't happen. Yeah, it didn't work.
So this is I don't understand how she's again in training, right,
And I guess I didn't realize the difference between the
powers are stronger when they're little, like you were saying
with Sophia, because I was going, but she's got this

(46:34):
little sister that these things are happening very easily too.
She's opening the gate on her own.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
She's yeah, she's going to be a powerful witch.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Right, I'm going, how come this hasn't happened to her
at all?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
And they did set it up that it did, and
it's kind of been beaten out of her a little bit,
probably not physically, but maybe physically of her life as
she's growing up. But yeah, so it just get nurtured.
So yeah, exactly, it's suppressed yet so I guess we're
supposed to assume that when you accept that you're a
witch and then you're in Halloween Town, that's your training start.

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So the clock has at least started, so she has
retained her powers, as I think we're supposed to supposed
to figure up. When they go to catch the bus
because they're leaving now, they're greeted by a two headed
clerk fighting with himself about espresso. But much more importantly,

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the bus is down and won't be flying. Uh oh.
Gwen won't take no for an answer. She's taking her
complaint to the mayor, who she quickly finds out is
her old suitor, that weirdo named Kalibar who likes to
pull things out of different holes in his body. He's
also so happy to see her and still trying to wooer. Also,
he has an assistant. He's a human pincushion. Not important

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at all the story. I just wanted to.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Tell you that, I know that was one of the
more not making sense.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah, I think they just want to strain. Yeah, it's
just weird.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
She was that one literally looked like when I put
together I was a twister a twister board.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Okay, Halloween.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
That was like that kind of Halloween costume, right, like
you're a kitchen or you're you know, a cloudy sky
with a chance of rain. You have like a square gun.
That was like, you know, a great Yeah they're great,
but that they're not monsters.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
So my Halloween costume is exactly the same every single year.
I dressed like the guy who doesn't touch you at
his house.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Oh, you'd be an Inja turtle.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
No, I'm not even gonna get into which an injur
turtle you would be. I'm not sure you can answer that.
The mayor offers the Cromwell clan a tour all in
hopes of eventually making out with Gwen, which seems like
he wants to use some of his magic Ongwyn, if
you know what I mean, But he ends up having
an emergency has to deal with first. On the other
side of town, Bully Luke is bothering Grandma Aggie. He

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points out that she's alone now and no one believes
her and is a powerful man who wants Merlin's talisman. Apparently,
Luke knows who's behind all these disappearances and he wants
to reveal himself to Aggie. This is a good opportunity
for them Marnie sees all this goes down and runs
from the mayor's office to help Luke. Can't be good
news for her grandma. She's got to figure out what's
going on as she leaves, her family then joins her

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but grudgingly. Luke takes Aggie to an abandoned movie theater,
which is one of the best sets we've seen in
any d com so far. It is filled with frozen skeletons, Goofy, Harriet,
and cobwebs. They're all watching a big screen showing a big,
violent storm that's actually three ding into the audience. Eventually,
a goblin and the cloak pops out on the screen
and we meet the true villain, real Voldemort. Vibes here

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the black flowing robe. I mean like super creepy for
a kid.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
I would imagine it starts off Wizard of Oz to me.
And then when that guy came out, I was like, Oh, okay,
we actually have a real.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah, a real bad guy, A real bad Guyuy, absolutely,
because I was like, oh okay, I can see how
kids might find this freaky. Yeah. Find out that he
is building an army with these souls and he wants
Merlin's talisman to them in motion. He claims that there's
nothing that can stop him, and he starts shooting fireballs
with his hands. Aggie nearly dodges them all as Luke

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shows some surprising concern. It appears the Goblin told him
that Aggie would not be hurt at all. He can't
stand to watch us anymore, and he bounces, and that's
when all the Cromwells arrive in the theater. Gwen knows
her mom's in trouble, so she tries to cast her
first spell in a long time, but she's clearly very rusty.
She turns Luke into flowers, but she meant powers. The

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Goblin shoots another fireball, and this time Gwen pushes her
mother out of the way at the last second, but
it hits her and boom, she gets nabbed. She's frozen
in time. She's now laying in a theater seat, and
as a good one two punch, the goblin man fireballs
Aggie two, now freezing both grandmother and daughter right in
front of the kids. Marnie, Sophie, and Dylan decide to
leave at the same time, revealing that sunlight seems to

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stun the bad guy very important, but not really at
all because that doesn't come back in any way, shape
or for him ever again. And then the next time
we see him as in broad daylight. So that makes
no sense. But it's a great scene for a D com.
It is. It's the cool the theater.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
It was very the theater. Good bad guy.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Reveal it was. It was good. But yeah, that's the
sunlight that none of them.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
To make up. The way they freeze was I thought
pretty impressive. Great, right, you know when they when you
get hit by the fireball, and then the way they
go from being you know fully normal to then their
freeze moment of being you know the statue, that was
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
I thought so too. I thought it looked great poor.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
W Reynolds, who has her finger up and we're going,
oh man, all those takes. You wish you would have
maybe thought a different post.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
I thought she was my head.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Onthing like that, leaning on the chair, just like that,
just eating popcorn.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
I would have chose a different boat.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I thought they did that on purpose. I thought she
was freezing pointing to where she later she was supposed
to put the talisman. Oh, it turned out to not
be the case. But I thought that's what it was.
It was so she was really pointing go go. I
thought that was the reason was to point to that.
But anyway, No, Marny needs to get this witch's brew

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and she knows. So they know what they have to
do because their grandmother told them what they had to do.
So Marnie needs to get the witches brew made to
save her mom and grandma. The kid needs. The kids
need to get the ingredients to empower the talisman. First,
they stop by a beauty parlor owned by a werewolf.
Marnie pretends to be looking for a job, picks up
a hair dryer or proof she knows what she's doing.
She turns it on to find out it's actually a
pretty awesome flamethrower. Small fact. They did this effect with

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real fire, by the way, so Kimberly was just playing
with fire for hours as they filmed it. Totally cool.
Now that everyone's distracted, Dylan quickly shaves the back of
the werewolf's head and runs out. One ingredient down. Next stop,
we go to the Halloween Town gym. Dog Faces are
playing basketball and teaching aerobics. It's quite a scene. They
eventually make it to the sauna and sneak some sweat

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of a ghost. When Dylan recites weird facts as Sophie
imitates a ghost running around in the ghost can you please,
can you stop that? I don't go in for stereotypes.
Can you please cut that out?

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Stereotype? I loved it.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
It was yes, because you the days like you know,
you're just making fun of me, making fun of anybody
you can see through.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Can you please? Can't do anything about it because I'm
stuck and the.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Kids through it so but they've they've ended up locking
in their second ingredient. It's also worth noting that the
ghost loses hundreds of pounds in the sweat room very instantly,
and for the last ingredient, they go to the local
dentist office. The dentist, who has a really creepy face
mask and a huge nose, is removing the fangs from
a vampire, which is perfect to steal and for the

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finalizing the witches brew recipe once and for all. I
love also how they talk about how he's in fact
the tooth fairy.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
That was my monster that I love.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah, okay, yeah, that tooth fairy one was so good
to me. It was I love so the.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Way they shot him, it was kind of like at
a lower angle and the cameras moving in on him.
It was really really cool. Yeah, they now have everything
they need and they have to return to their Grandma's house,
and what luck. Benny the skeleton taxi driver appears again.
He's willing to drive them to Aggie's house for free,
but Sophie, who has saved everybody's life, she is the
harmony of this one, isn't buying it. She reveals he's

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got the bad thing in him, and she was right
because Bennie tries to violently pull Dylan into his cab,
but Sophie brilliantly reacts by releasing a nearby dog office
leash and sending him to fetch the bones. Bennie takes off,
keeping them safe for now. Back at Grandma's, the kids
have finished the witch's Brew, but Marnie can't remember the spell.
Who could It was in another language you heard once
a while ago, and lots of stuff has happened since

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no one could remember that. Oh wait, Sophie, Sophie's she.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Is literally, I'm telling you she is. If she wasn't there, God,
they would have been done on the bus ride, they
would have died.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
She's amazing. She of course memorized the spell by believing
in themselves and reciting it together. They end up lighting
the talisman. Then they return to the theater talisman all alight,
and their mom and grandma are still frozen. Marnie remembers
her grandma saying that they have to quote unquote installed
the talisman, but she never really knew where, but she's smart,
so she puts it together. Since most Halloween traditions for

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humans were stolen from the monster's original customs, Marnie realized
she might have to light up the town's huge pumpkin
display with the talisman. It seems kind of convoluted in
a lot of steps, and to be honest, you kind
of forget there's even a pumpkin there, Like they talk
about it, but then and then like it doesn't look right.
They said that at the beginning, like it doesn't look right,
so they're kind of trying to put the old nugget

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in your cranium. But it was a little convoluted at
that point.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, But the second time I watched it was like, oh,
I get why they have the jack O lanard in
the beginning.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Like, yes, they set it all up.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
They do set it up, but it just kind of.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
I agree, sometimes it gets lost. It's just so much
going on. They seem like they skipped a lot of steps.
They also, here's the thing, here's the problem I had.
If Grandma is such a powerful witch, why not just
and and these three kids who've been in Halloween Town
for a cumulative total of three hours.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Have been able to get all the ingredients make the thing?
And like the thing. She couldn't do this by herself.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Why couldn't she have to? I know she couldn't.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Brew this thing once by herself and try to see
if the work.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
To have a vampire friend that said, hey, take it
any chance you've lost one? Yeah, wiggly.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
These three kids that have normally live in Maine or
wherever the hell they are are now in a mythical
land and killing.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
It kills So it's like like they've been superheroes.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yes, yes, exactly. So I just you could have tried it,
is all I'm saying. Granny, y'are awesome. God, Debbie Reynolds,
I love you. Give it a shot. May make your stuff,
make your stuff? Uh? Anyway, Marnie walks to the giant pumpkin,
when out of nowhere, Luke grabs her and tells her
it's a trap. That also made no sense because she
was able to just put it in there, so if
it wasn't a trap, she could have just walked up
and put it in. But he wants to apologize for

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earlier he didn't know the Goblin was going to hurt Aggie,
and just as he apologize, a massive storm takes over
the sky and the Goblin appears. He alerts them the
moment of destiny has her and all that was going
through my head was the dad and back to the future.
You are my density. The Goblin wants to return to
the mortal world. The humans have stolen it from them

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and he's not going to take it anymore. He's building
an army to take it back and leave Halloween Town.
It's time to show humans who they really are. And
then he morphs into his true identity, Mayor Calibar, who
it turns out was just a d bag this entire time,
which I think Aggie should have figured out immediately. Did
this trick you? Did you know it was him? I mean,

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just kind of right off the bat, it.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Was there was no one else that could have been
at all. They they didn't introduce any other maybe characters, right,
there was no besides the nose job kid other than that.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Yeah, there wasn't even a red herring. It was just
like there who else could be?

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Obviously him? You know, unless it was going to be
some unexpected person out.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yeah, like a total differently, Yeah, but it had to
have been him. The other thing I noticed was are
they trying trying to say that most of the town
now is under the spell? Because to them, he's making
some pretty good points, and you see a lot of
them nodding like, yeah, we should go and kill all
these humans. Yes, yeah, So I think that's what it is,
is that they're all kind of slowly starting to fall
under his spell, right right, Well.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I think I think at the his his rasoning was,
We're why was it the humans get to stay in
the same world that we all lived in? Why is
it that were in this realm?

Speaker 6 (58:27):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (58:27):
They're kind of probably going, Yeah, I mean, we've got
such a small town, this is it.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
There's nowhere to go.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I mean, you've got enough magic to make a town,
make the town bigger. You can't magic up a strip,
mallcy have something to do. I mean, come on, but I.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Also I'll get I guess it's okay to get to
it before Sabrita seas. But these frozen zombies or frozen
people in the theater, yeah, people in the theater. I
don't know what was his plan with what were they going?

Speaker 1 (58:57):
I think maybe those are the most powerful people in
town that would be able to stop him. So he
was able to take them and.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Freeze the collecting them, like as if he's going to
use them.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
So here's like, here's here's what it is.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Yeah, the whole battle, Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Maybe maybe he's collecting them to then when he gets
the talisman he can really activate them all to be
his minions and go take over the world. I guess
that's what we'll say. I also didn't understand why shooting
just at this point is he's giving his speech, just
run up and stick the thing in the pumpkin. You're
five feet away at this point.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Now's your time anyway.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Now Calibar. Calibar, which sounds like Caldor, which is a
place I used to shop as a kid, wants to
kill Marnie in order to start his world domination plan,
which we're trying to figure out exactly what it is.
When he believes he sees in the crowd, he shoots
out fireballs, totally hitting his target. There's Marnie, but it's
actually Luke. He made himself a decoy. While Marnie did
go to the giant pumpkin, the goblin shoots her with

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fireballs just as she's about to place it in there,
because he walks over he sees its Luke. Oh no,
she's at the pumpkin. He shoots her with fireballs, leaving
her motionless on top of the pumpkin. But as she's
fading away and we watch on with bated breath, Marnie
lets go of the towsman, placing it into the pumpkin
and blasting Klibar with light. Not only does this knock
him down, it wakes up all the prisoners in the theater,
including Gwen, Aggie, and even the weird neighbor lady Harriet.

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The family meets back up in the town center, so
happy to see each other. Marnie reveals it was Calibar
just as nearby he's shaking off the attack. He screams
at Gwen she should have been his queen, but instead
she picked a human. His darkness will now spread unchecked.
He steals back to talisman, and even though Aggie and
Gwen team up to cast a spelling him, nothing is working.
But nearby, little Dylan, the sibling without any powers, is

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getting very angry and also looks down and his hands
are starting to sparkle. He's actually a warlock. So finally,
all the family members, a new coven of sorts, Marnie's grandma, mom, brothers,
and Marnie herself combine their skills by holding hands and believing.
And then Kalibar, who's just been standing there the whole

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time watching them concoct a plan, not even trying to
fight them in any way, shape or for him, disintegrates,
sending the talisman pocket. No, not a good time to
shoot fireballs. I'm gonna give you several minutes to plan
my demise. Yes, but yes, they just by the belief,
because again none of them are trained to do shit.

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They get there and boom, they save the day. In
all the celebration, Gwen and Marney make up. She's everything
gwenever wanted and a daughter. Marne notices very sweet moment
mark this is another sweet moment. Marne notices Luke nearby,
sulking under his robe. He reveals that he's turned into
his old self, a magical elf monster who's just cute
as a button, and I can see town villagers running

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out of town with pitchforks and torches. He wanted to
be handsome just to get a date with Marnie. A
shocked Marnie kisses him on the cheek, which is going
to cause problems later on down the line when that
forms something on her lips and thanks him she will
look him up if she ever returns, which we know
she does because there is a Halloween two. This time
it's personal. As the town gathers around the Cromwells, it's

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decided that Aggie will come to live in the human
world and Gwen will finish Marnie's witch training. You st
out with their own broom. Yeah, that we're gonna here's
here's how you do stuff. Luke is driving the bus
into the sky, leaving behind Harriet, Benny and every weirdo
monster we've seen for the past hour and a half.
We fade out, and that is your movie. Real reviews Sabrina. Yeah, craziness, fun,

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enjoyed it. You gotta let y'all let God with this
one a little bit, but you know what, it's absolutely
worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Disney movie, like I said, was my Disney Channel era
is it? It was awesome, a little bit over the
top as far is, like you said, more cartoony than
a Johnny Tsunami, but still so good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yeah, I agree on undred percent. Why don't you do
our five star review Sabrina?

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
That was all right right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
This is from Sarah M my family's favorite Halloween fun movie.
I watched it on Disney and I love that my
daughter and I can watch it again together. Yes, Sarah,
you and I are Huntos on that great so fun?

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
What is Huntos together? Oh cool?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
My one star review is from Bob l and this
might be the most most accurate one star review I've
ever read. This movie is why Bertha took Tim Sim,
Bim Yim Pim Wim Fim Dim Viim Quim and Jim
away from me. If it wasn't for this terrible piece
of film, I would still be a loving father. The
characters in this movie were too ugly and smelly for

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me and my family to bear. Also, which it should
be burn at the Steak. In conclusion, this movie also
gave me a terminal case of herpies because of the spells.
Do not watch one star Bob. Bob's working on a
whole different level of problems with.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
Bob yikeb but somebody, somebody who hurts you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
I believe this is his call for.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Help, because seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
We need to worry about what's happening over there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
With oh Bob. Alrighty, We are now going to get
to our favorite part of our podcast every week, the
feature our game, the Sabrina Game. This game this week
is called cost whom get it like? Costume? Thank you?
As we approach Halloween or all all of Eve, which

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is the way you're supposed to say it, it's time
to look back at last year for a little glimpse
into this year. We are being asked to name five
of the ten most popular Halloween costumes last year, according
to visualcapitalist dot com. We get five wrong before we
get five right, we're out. Keep in mind the Australian
Breakdancer was this year. Yikes.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
I'll also say that you guys have five guesses. I mean,
I think that's safer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Yeah, that's yeah. If you can make five.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Okay, and I'll get If you can get three out
of your five, I'll even give you a win.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
What are so what are some of the top I
just heard this on the news somewhere. You did, uh,
I only remember, I really remember.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I'm gonna throw a guess out. I'm gonna throw a
guess out. Is Donald Trump? One?

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Donald Trump is not on the list. Okay, So you
have four guesses left to get three?

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Okay. I do think the Beetlejuice franchise is going to
be a big one.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
Wait, no, this is from last year.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
You know this was last year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
I thought it was the No, that's why we can't
take Australian breakdancer, who will certainly win this year.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I stopped listening. My anxiety took over.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
We're here. Last year.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Was okay? Last year?

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
What was big in twenty twenty three?

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
What were the marvel things? What was a Marvel thing?

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Yeah, maybe maybe Captain America would be big.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Captain America Wednesday was big last Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
You got Wednesday. So you have to nail two more
in a row to get a win.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Now it's in a row because your two guesses last.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
Last few guesses.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Oh wait wait, I'm not guessing yet. But so this
is just Spraina. What about what about like Stranger Things?
Would that be one that was big last year, wasn't it?

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
But is there costumes?

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
I don't know. I don't think I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Harris, if we do it, like I also throw out,
I also will throw it. It doesn't have to be
pop culture. I mean, there are pop cultures on here,
but it doesn't have to be pop culture right right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
It could Nurse.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
I'm gonna like Aerial Ariel because that came out.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
No, I'm only gonna let will give one more guests
purely out of out of sad bit spite.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I'm gonna say Stranger Things.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
There's no Stranger Things. This is gonna blow your minds
because this is so easy. But I don't know how. Okay,
Barbie number one, big year?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Oh Barbie was so big? Okay? Yes, just a princess,
Just a princess.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Yes, Spider Man, which could have Gwen Good instead of
Captain America, a Witch, which I feel like was right
on the tee for you, Fairy Wednesday Adams which you
guys got, Dinosaur, Cowboy, Ninja Bunny.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Oh my God, so we were overthinking everything. Gotcha, Well,
let's do it again. Okay, I'm a guest Cowboy, Bunny yep,
spider Man.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
Spider Man, spider Man, right, yeah it congratulations, Yes we won.
I'm sure that'll edit clean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Great. Can we do Sabrina Seas? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
And listen. This one I cannot believe. As soon as
I saw it, I'm like, oh, Will's gonna call me
out on it. I can't wait to hear what he
has to say when they get off the bus. It
is me when I'm one hundred and fifteen years old
as a skeleton cheetah girl. The cheating there. I had

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to cheetah girl, I had to toe cheetah outfit with
this big hat, and I'm like, oh, here we go.
We was gonna call I didn't see it. But when
you ask you that, but you did ask me about
what my favorite monster was, that one was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Oh, that's of course, that's awesome. I didn't even see it.
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
And the aerobics girl that's in the she had a
little bit of cheetah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I will say.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
That's when I started looking at the costumes and realizing
and I know you're giving the explanation that they're like
trick or treating ish, Yeah, they're because it bothered me
that they would only have a head and then the
like for instance, Monster, the rest you could see their
normal skin color under their clothes, like they didn't even

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have long sleeve to where you just you know what,
they didn't cover it up. That really bothered me throughout
the whole movie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
That made it be different in the next movies like
that added a little money or something.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
I thought the rest, like the heads were so impressive
that they had the makeup was so great, but a
lot of times when you saw the actor's real skin,
it kind of broke what it was supposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Gotcha?

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
And then did you This is more of a question
when he kept miss saying her name, Sophie, what was
he saying? I listened so soapy?

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Okay, Sophie, could he Sophie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Couldn't couldn't hear that? I did not get That came
up a couple of times, Sophie, like what is he?

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Because they were trying to make him seem like he's
Convivio and all that kind when in fact you knew
he was, Like you got to be the bad guy,
You're the only dude we've met in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Town exactly exactly the Wiener thing killed me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Oh god, it's not the best.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
She also has copy it says, copied the ingredients from
Grandma's book.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
When did that happen? Well, when when did.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
She got off camera?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
It was never a moment that she could have literally
wrote down all these things. No, that that was insane.
And then it's two more when Marnie's on the pumpkin.
Now that we've seen Sophie rescue the rest of the
family several times, the times I thought it was gonna
be Sophie that like snuck in and actually put it
in or justic it was like her magic was going

(01:10:24):
to actually do it. Like Marnie at this point is useless.
I love Kimberly, I love you, but Marnie has become
useless in this movie. I hope for Sallie. Sophie is,
as you know, kind of upset. And then the last
I thought you were going to talk about this too,
You and Jensen neither one brought this up, which I
thought was such a funny thing. What he says, I

(01:10:46):
guess that I didn't turn into a handsome prince. And
she says no really, no, no, she's just no, it's
just you know you didn't. But it was so funny,
like like nice moment. I mean, you're still cute. I
still like, yeah, you're handsome.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
I think you look better this way or something that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Yeah, she says, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
No, you're right. And there's a smell now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Luke, you also smells.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Let's get that y all right, and thank you for
those And now we must rate our film. We've got
one out of ten, one being the worst and ten
being the best, of course, like human beings and our
one out of ten. Possibilities this week are Merlin Talisman's
one out of ten, d and D playing Mary Poppins
one out of ten, real flamethrowers one out of ten,

(01:11:38):
Scary Harriet's ghost saunas one out of ten, bowling pig
faces one at ten, electrified Dylan's or one out of
ten skeleton taxi drivers. Which one you want, Sabrina.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
I think you can pick this one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Okay, I'm going with bowling pig faces. That's fair, going
to do it. I think that's also my turn to
rate first, isn't it. I really liked this movie for
what exactly what it was very disney Esque, very Disney enjoyable.
This is a solid eight point five from me. This
is eight point five Bowling Pickfaces. We've done a couple
of great movies in a row, and there's a reason

(01:12:14):
why kids love this and adults love it. It's just fun.
It was a fun movie, fully enjoyable. The kids were great.
The story again is what the story is, but it's
very Harry Potter, very Mary Poppins. I was into it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Eight point five nice, I'm very close to that. Again.
I loved it. This was the realm of when I
was really loving the Disney Channel, even as a young
or an older viewer at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
You know then you know junior high.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
I loved it. It took me. It did take me
a second to turn my brain off of trying to
pick everything apart with it. There was that, and there
were a few things that it couldn't get past. And
that's why I'm going to go to an eight Bowling
pick Faces, just because I really knowing there's four movies
in this m Yeah, they did the fourth one without

(01:13:04):
the incredible Kimberly because it's like that shows you how
big this franchise is. Yeah, that I think there's room
to grow, so I'm gonna start with an eight bowling pigs.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Okay, I love it. Thank you so much, Sabrina, and
thank you so much everybody else for joining us our
next movie. It's happening people. We're doing smart House. I
don't even know how else to tell you. Smart House
will be next. We're gonna follow it immediately by its sequel,
Stupid Apartment. I'm kidding. We are just doing smart House.

(01:13:35):
Smart House is next. And while we wait, get to
our magical rewind feed to check out our park Copper
interview with Gwen Piper herself, Judah Hoague, that's right, who
talked to us all about Halloween Town. And of course
we also had to talk April O'Neil from Teenie Muetan
Ninja Turtles. Here's a quick sneak peek.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
We went on this adventure.

Speaker 6 (01:13:55):
It was just supposed to be one film, and it
did so well programming wise, like it just broke all
their records and they rushed a second one out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Oh really they did. So it was a quick, quick,
It was nice.

Speaker 6 (01:14:11):
Quick, but we didn't end up going back to Saint Helen's, Oregon,
where we shot the first one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
We ended up going to Vancouver, Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:14:19):
And we did the second one there and then there
was a little bit more of a pause in between
the second and the third one, and then we went
to Salt Lake City and then we shot the last
two there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
So much fun. Thank you everybody, and don't forget to
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