Jodie Sweetin Meets World

It’s a Full House as Will, Rider and Danielle welcome Stephanie Tanner herself, Jodie Sweetin, to PMW! They reminisce about running Hollywood as the childhood actors of the hottest TGIF shows, including the glorious highs and the darkest lows that came along with it. But most importantly, did someone pee their pants on the set of Danielle and Jodie’s Kooshlings commercial?? And why was there no Boy Meets World merch?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
It has come up a lot with people that it
is kind of weird that there was no Boy Meets
World merch made at the time that Boy Meets World
was on.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Was there not?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
I mean was there none? Like none at all?

Speaker 4 (00:31):
I think there was any.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
Was there full house or or I mean growing pains? Yeah,
that's what I'm wondering.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, they did.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
There was.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
There was arkle merch and dinosaurs merch.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Did you see people walking around at the cons with
the baby dinosaur?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, well yeah, because the voice actor was.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
There, I know, But those things were from years ago.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
They were actual like puppets, you know, they were like
I guess there was like.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Family ties, like lunch boxes and stuff like that. I mean,
we didn't even have like lunch boxes.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
We didn't have anything.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Which you move your hair, Daniel, because I saw this
as you were, Yes, so we got stuff like that
you're wearing.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
This was These were cast and crew Christmas gifts, the
end of the year gifts.

Speaker 6 (01:18):
And then like I don't know, about ten years ago,
urban outfitters started popping up with merch from our show, which.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
We don't which has nothing to do with us.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
We don't license, Like, does ABC make me and then
we get nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
For correct It's absolutely take the contract.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
That we signed, all the contracts that we signed. Everything
is in perpetuity.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Also, you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
The thing that bums me out is that, like, there
was a there's a Topanga shirt that's at five below
that a bajillion people bought and I signed it at
the con and I saw it a bunch as it's
a little weird that my face is on stuff and
we don't see anything of it and ABC license it.
But what really bums me out is that it's a
be shirt. It's not a good quality, better design shirt.

(02:04):
It's not well designed. It was five dollars at five below,
and I'm like, yeah, that looks like it was ninety
nine cents, you know, And I'm like, let's do cool
things like this is this is a great quality sweatshirt. Again,
it wasn't mercha. That's the christ yea this is from.
It has the year on it something. I think it's

(02:24):
ninety it's either ninety three, ninety four or ninety two
ninety three.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
That's early then, Yeah, that's that's first.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, that's an early that's an early draft.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
It could have been it's like the classic.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah, it's like one of the first years.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Okay, so here's a question. If you can remember the
gifts that we got. What was the best cast gift
you think we ever got? Because a lot of stuff
we couldn't wear, we couldn't walk around, giant things.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
It's in boy mets world. We never did know, so.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Leather bags that were awesome still have it. Yeah, I
think we saw.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Reasons because at the live show we used it.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
I think our best ever didn't we have? We had
like one of those like letter jackets, like a varsity
I have to I don't leather sleeves, leather sleeves. And
then like I remember you're thinking of.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
The Swede sleeve jacket.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
We've got one that was black like puff like a
rain material.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
And then give me one second, I have that one.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
When you get me the leather jacket, will you're talking about,
because that's the one I don't have and I really
want it. And recently it popped up on like deep Pop.
Somebody was selling one. So somebody had their dad or
their uncle's cast and crew jacket and it was like
four hundred dollars and I almost bought it.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
And then I made the decision, you know what I
am going to do.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Because at first I was like four hundred dollars that
seems like a lot of money for something that I
once owned and maybe have somewhere. And then I was like, no,
I'm going to buy it anyway just so that I
have it. And it was already sold. Somebody else bought it.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I was thinking, that's exactly the one that I'm talking about.
I don't have that anywhere.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
So, yeah, we have this one which is like the
nice leather cool I had in my mind.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
I had something it was a different color, but maybe
that's the one. I was thinking.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
No, But then we also have because I just saw
this back in Connecticut and I was there. We had
one that was like white and blue that was almost
like a boat, like a boating kind of jacket that
said and we got we got a uh robe, I
think one year.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, I remember the rest.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well I remember.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Let me see if you guys know the shirt I'm wearing. Oh,
will can you get it?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Louche air Freight? Is that Air America? No clue? What
movies from Temple of Doom they get their close the door?

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yes, nice that's very very subtle.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
Temple of Indiana and uh and short Round and Kate
they escape into and they escaped from a guy and
then he says like see you later, louche and close
the door and it says it's like he's on and
then you know that they're gonna, you know, be a trouble.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
And so MythBusters actually did to see if it would
work or not. They recreated the getting into the raft
from a plane and doing it, and that they put
these all these shock things over dummy and the dummy
survived every single time it actually worked. They believed it
would actually work, and it did actually worked a river

(05:27):
the question.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
It never flipped over.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
They kept doing it and the thing kept going down
like this and landed every time like right side up,
and the dummy inside kept surviving.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
So just always carry parachutes and an inflatable.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Raft and a giant inflatable raft in case you have to.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Will always wanted to go down one of those inflatable rafts.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
I do, I do, I know, I know also just
very very quickly. I remember one year Seinfeld, because they
were shooting right next to us, we heard like one
of the crew came over that we heard them talking
their cat skiff that year were these beautiful brand new
mountain bikes.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Oh, and we were like, wonder what we're going to get?
And I think it was like another another row pair
of boxers, Yes, something like that.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I don't want to delay us any longer. Let's jump
into our guest today. Welcome to Pod meets World.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfredell.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
So our guest today played Stephanie Tanner for one hundred
and ninety two episodes. Beat us now by quite a bit,
beat us yeah, of the beloved ABC TGIF block sitcom
Full House from nineteen eighty seven to nineteen ninety five.
We commonly talk about how while filming Boy Meets World,

(06:42):
we had no idea it was popular even being watched well.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Jody did not have that problem.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
It ranked among Nielsen's top thirty shows during season three
and jumped into the top twenty just a year later,
and it stayed there through season seven. The one hour
series finale was watched by twenty four point three million people.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
She'd later revisit the iconic role for Fuller House, a
reboot on Netflix that ran five seasons as a massive
success for the streamer.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Five seasons.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
I did realized the last of that one, Yes, Yes.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
And you may have caught her on Dancing with the
Stars or her latest roles in A Cozy Christmas and
a Christmas in Switzerland living out Will's Dreams on the
Hallmark Channel. But most most importantly, Jody Sweeten knows I
really love kushlings.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Them exactly.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
We are thrilled to have on an iconic sitcom actress
we all genuinely love. Let's please welcome Jody Sweeten. I
love your haircut, Thank.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
You, thank you. I chopped it because my hair is
just dying, and so all of us were blessed with
your hair, Danielle.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
This sucks in general.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I would love to Yeah, there's three hairs on my
head and they're all trying to do what they can,
so I just chopped it to make it a little
easier on them.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I mean, it looks so cute. I wish I could.
I wish I could pull that off, but I can't.
It's just so cute on you though.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well you know here we are.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well welcome, thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's so good to see you guys.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Though, to see you too.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I can't believe that we missed you at nineties Con.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
You were at nineties Con recently, and we were there
last year and made the decision not to go this year,
but then you went this year and we missed you.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I know I went this year. Last year. I was working.
I was shooting, shooting. I was shooting a Hallmark or
Lifetime Christmas movie. It's amazing you.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
And that's what Will's dream is.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
That's my dream to wake up one day and find
out I really loved Christmas.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
That's that's my dream.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
Wait, will you want to you want to act in
a Christmas movie? Or do you want to live in
a Christmas movie?

Speaker 5 (08:59):
I want to act in a Christmas movie, in a
Christmas movie. It would be awful.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Say no more. I'm going to start directing some soon,
so I'll be like, I know, I know who is dying.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yes, good, thank you, Because it's actually in my list
of questions for you is will you do Will the
favor of falling in love with him in a Hallmark
movie about a tree trimming failing Christmas store. So yes,
if you make a dream come true, I would I
would feel right now, right yep, amazing.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
But anyway, yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't there for Nineties
Call last year, but I was this year. It was
really fun have some great fans for now. People were
really excited to come say hi.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, that was a great event. We had a really
good time.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
The fans are amazing and it was just just nineties
fun everywhere.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeh yeah, yeah, shout out to Hartford, my hometown. Thank you.
They won't hear it, though I'll do the jokes.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
They won't hear it because the soup cans are full.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
I'm not saying anything, man, just insert your own jokes.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
That's what I'm saying. I'll I'll get.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
So I would like to first start with the elephant
in the room, and we just need to get this
out of the way because it is absolutely everywhere. Did
I ever convince you that kushlings are cool?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Jody absolutely take much convincing, you know what I mean? Like,
I should I take you to go see my hidden cushlings?

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Gods were like, is she.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Now you I'm not bad? Insane? And yeah no, I
don't have some like secret panel where you push it
and then there's just a.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Whole what do you remember from that day and us
filming that commercial.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I remember the three I remember we had a lot
of fun because we were all friends at the time,
we were in acting classes together. It was for us.
We were like, great, I don't care, you know, we
didn't care why we were there. We were like, I
just get to like work with My friends were on
different shows that I never get to work with. So
that was I think, really the cells to us. What

(11:06):
else I remember from that day is that we really
didn't matter. It's all about the power. And I remembered
some commercials that I'd done when I was talking, I
was like, that's right. I am basically relevant, and it's
all about right the thing that's yeah, RBI or whatever
it is that's in the.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Real stars of the commercial are the conchs.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Commercials, which, to be fair, they were the slings. I
guess it's fine.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yes, Well, I told you when I saw you you
were on drop the Mic, and I saw you. When
I saw you, I told you that I had a
memory that that you had peed your pants on that commercial,
laughing so hard, and you were like, Danielle, I've never
peed my pants in my life.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
And I was like, okay, then I believe.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
You, because if you you would know, no one would remember.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
If they had peed their pants or not more than
the person. So if that's not.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
True, that's not true. But you did split your pants
doing a high right.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
That is that that's almost were evolved.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
My pants. Daniel was like, she obviously has a lot
of thanks for remembering that. She's like, oh yeah, yeah, that.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
Jody was wearing a diaper for some reason.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
And Jody's been in continent for years.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
Everyone knows lots of problems.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Everyone knows that.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I was like, did you Yeah, She's like, Danielle, I
would remember if I peed my pants.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
I was like, okay, then you know what it's me here, here's.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
What I will say. Though I say that I would remember,
I don't know if I would anymore, you know at
this point all the time, and I'm like, I was,
I yeah, oh I was there that Jody.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
We just discovered in a recent episode. We recorded that
I worked with a bear on Boy Meets World while
being covered in honey, and they had to have an
electrical wire between us and the bear.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
And do you know how much I remember of that? Zero?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I it is as if it was somebody else doing it,
and they were like, Danielle, how do you not remember that?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I mean, that feels like the beginning of Saw in
some ways. So maybe it's just sort of like a
traumatic memory that you're.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Like, I was there, I'm repressing that as.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
A small child and left in front of a Bearah yeah, yeah, No.
I think a lot of the things that we did
as kids are are now very much against child labor laws.
They had me hanging from like suspended things, flying.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
For runs multiple.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Occasions on these shows, and now they're like, yeah, no,
you can't. You can't lift a kid more than whatever,
Like five minutes. I was like, I was flying as
a fake astronaut through the living room set, you know,
suspended by a curtain. All this.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I never that was interesting. I never. I never never
had that. But I did on Fuller House get to
sit in a vat of what was supposed to look
like tomato juice because you know, DJ was a vet.
And so somebody brings in their dog and it's a
skunk and it sprays me and the baby that I'm there,

(14:15):
DJ's youngest said, I'm there watching. So there's a scene
of me holding up a baby in a vat like
a like a like an industrial size of this what
looked like tomato soup, but it was like cold snot.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
Oh god, I'm very descriptive.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, And I was in that holding a child that
did not want to be in it and was also
very slippery, and I was like trying to keep them like, don't.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
Wait, hold on, hold on, are you trying to tell
me that when you were a kid. And this is
a genuine question, is I know, I know I'm saying,
but when you were a kid, Because we talked about
this on this podcast before. For whatever reason, and maybe
it was the difference between boy actor and girl actors.
I was always getting covered in food or garbage or
dropped in something. It was like part of the like

(15:08):
genre of being a kid actor. It was just like
you had to be dumb food fights or garbage or
butter vats or you name it.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I think Puller House had more fights than Full House.
I fight as an adult than I did I think
as a kid.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
Even Yeah, I started on Nickelodeon where we were always
covered in something. And speaking of that, Jody, I doubt
you'd remember this, but I was probably thirteen and we
got flown for our show, Don't just sit there, flown
out to Los Angeles to interview all these cool people.
And I interviewed you when you were like seven or
eight on the cell the people and you, which was awesome.

(15:48):
And that's the first time we met and you and
I laughed because I was such a bad interviewer that
they just started throwing in questions and it was like,
what are your favorite shoes?

Speaker 3 (15:55):
And then I'd be like, what are your favorite shoes?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
And then we just.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
Start so you would answer that what is that?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Exactly? So it was it was that was the first
time I met you. You were like a kid, kid.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Kid, and was not much improvement has happened.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
No, exactly, We're all exactly the same.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Are your favorite right? So today we're going to get
to the bottom of it.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
What forty years ago or something like that.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I mean absolutely, yeah, oh my god, yeah, yeah, I
don't I don't remember that, but I.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Do remember that.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I remember that.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Oh, I remember that.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Jody. You were younger than pretty much all of us,
right or are you the same age as Danielle.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I was.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I was always a little younger than you, guys. Danielle
I'm I turned forty one in January, so I think
you're a little older than I am.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, I turned I'm going to be forty two in May,
so we're just we're less than a year, Like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
January what Jody just curious.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Ju one, Okay, we're going to be an eleventh brother.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Part of the eleven Brothers.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
But you started a lot younger.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
She was five when she got the role of Stephanie
Tanner on fall House.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
It was but I started doing commercials and things when
I was barely four.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Do you remember auditioning for full House when you were five? Like?
Can you? Can you remember the process?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I never auditioned for Full House. I did a guest
appearance on Valerie with Jason Bateman and Vali Harper. Obviously,
I played the next door neighbors niece and they had
full House and development at the time, and Jeff Franklin
saw a clip of what I did on that show

(17:31):
and was like, that's it, and I got cast from that.
I never auditioned. I was wow on the show and yeah,
that's so it was. I just kind of wound up
there and it was.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Now as a person who has a child who is
almost four he believes it when the doctor looks in
his ears and says that Hulk is living in there.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
How did you.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Work with your child? No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
How did you like? How were you so good? How
did you memorize lines? It makes no sense to me
that someone so small could be so good.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
I well, thank you first of all, and I would
say the same about you, Danielle. But no, I I
was not that young. I was.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
I was twelve, and I knew nothing.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
You were twelve. You were twelve, an.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Older an older actor living in her ears, was whispering
her life.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Right right, yes, yes, exactly. No, you know, I I
started reading when I was about three. I started reading
at a very early age, and so I could pretty
much read anything that was put down in front of
me at that point. And then memorizing was just always
something that came really easily to me. It's like I
don't have a photographic memory, but like I can see

(18:45):
words on the page if I had even still today,
I can't remember where I put my keys or my problem,
but I can certainly know what's in script.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
So you know, priority wow, started reading it three?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
But yeah, I was reading really early. I skipped a
grade in school, and so it was for me like
now as an adult, I see all of these things
of like ADHD tendencies that I had, and like all
of the you know, these things that like we're going
on that I think actually the way I was doing
school and going all the time and had a lot

(19:20):
of different stimulation and a lot of activity was probably
a saving grace for me because I needed to be
challenged a lot. Yeah, really easily.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
So Wow.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Tickets are on sale now for the Pod Meets World Live.
The kids want to jump to our If.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
You want to see us in your town and even
meet and greet us, well, now's the time.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
We'll be in Minneapolis on July twentieth, Milwaukee on July
twenty first, and Royal Oak, Michigan on July twenty.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Second, then Nashville on August fourth, Saint Louis on August fifth,
and Kansas City on August sixth.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
And then we're cruising over to Orlando on September eighteenth.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
If you're in those cities or even kind of nearby,
join us for a night of fun and raw emotions.
As we celebrate thirty years of Boy Meets World.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
We'll have even more backstage stories.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
We'll recreate iconic Boy meets World scenes and even have
a nightly costume contest.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Come as anything, and I do mean anything from Boy
Meets World or Pod Meets World and win one of
my old real life shooting scripts signed by all three
of us. Yep, the real ones. I'm giving them up
for my collection.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Some call it collecting, some call it hoarding.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Ah, yes, you've been speaking to my wife.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Oh and we'll also have new March, So go to
Podmeats worldshow dot com now to learn more and purchase
tickets for any of our first seven stops. We hope
to see you out there.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
You'll know me because I'll be the one just yelling merch.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
One of the lines that you're absolutely just there is
iconic and that you're famous for is how Rude And
like a lot of catchphrases and a lot of stuff
like Will's Feeney call that was just you know, written
on the page as Feenie, and he turned into being
this amazing thing. How Rude was just kind of like
a throw originally just a throwaway line that they had
written in the episode, right, and yet it just it

(21:12):
became like the catchphrase that'll be yelled at you forever.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, it became what will be engraved upon my earn?
You know. I yeah, like I guess. I just I
said it in a really funny little way as a person,
and I had like an attitude about it, and they
were like.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
That's right, and let's do it every week, Paul.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
In large part, you know, also due to my mom
running lines with me and stuff. But you know, I
loved comedy. I loved I loved being funny, I loved
being silly, and I had a kind of a natural
knack for the timing of it, and so it came
really easily to me, and it was just fun.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
That's so cool.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
You don't know you're creating a few You don't know
you're creating a catchphrase.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Now.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
I didn't know I had a catchphrase for years till
after I was like, oh, I guess I have a catchphrase?

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Like you just yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Didn't know, you're just doing this kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
And then all of a sudden, like you said, people
are yelling it at you in the street, and it's like, oh,
I knew.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Once they started kind of including it almost weekly in
a script that that you know, and yeah, and it
would always get a big reaction, and then there was
I was like, okay, so this is going to be
like Steph's thing, like this is kind of right. But yeah,
I mean I I you know, certainly never thought at
age five that something I said would stick with me
to this day.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
To first yeah, exactly, that we'd be in our forties
and talking about that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Did you guys have a lot of kid actors come
and go on your show? We've noticed as we've been,
you know, talking watching the episodes and talking about them now,
just how many people were brought on for either a
couple of days and then fired within that same week,
or brought on for an episode and then never seen again.
Did you guys have kind of like a high turnover
in your guest stars or we.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Like it's funny? I looking back, I feel like Steph
had like a couple friends.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
I was one of them, just she you were one.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, you were one of them? Well, no, were you?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I was a little like, well I got you to
pierce your ears. So I guess I was a little
bit of a bad influence. Who No, but I.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Do remember that. But like Steph would get like a
friend here and there, I feel like DJ really had Kimmy,
Steph kind of had Gia for a while, but as
usual with the middle child, like they didn't, you know,
Steph didn't. Steph would get one friend and then they
were like whatever, let's move on to Michelle. Somebody else
would get the friends storyline. I feel like Michelle at

(23:33):
one point had like three friends on the show.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Okay, that was like just chilling and was like, I
guess I'll hang out with my little sister, right.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, So when was the last time you watched Full House?
And do you want to do it with us? When
we're done watching Boy Meets World.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
Let's just.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Start watching other people's shows.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Let's tackling the first question, when's the last time I've
watched Full House? I've never really watched Full House. At
some point, I've seen a whole episode of it, just
like in Passing.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, so you didn't watch it when you were a
kid with your family.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
No, I didn't know. I've never cared about watching myself.
I hate watching myself. If I watched myself, I would
probably have an entirely different career because I usually just
want I'm like, is that the that's always your face?

Speaker 3 (24:24):
You do that, You're gonna keep you every time.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, No, I'm I as a kid too. I just like,
once I did it, I was over it. I didn't
I moved on. I was like, and anyway next it
was I was never I think because I started it
when I was so young. I never had experience of
school or really childhood outside of that environ so it

(24:52):
just always seemed really normal to me. It was just
what I did. And the fact that everyone else was
really like, oh my god like that. I was like,
that's weird, you know, I because I didn't watch the
show because I just didn't. It was just what I did.
It was fun, like you, I don't think I ever
like watched the show because I wanted to see myself

(25:12):
and I always felt very strange about fame. I still
it's a it's not something that I feel normal in.
I'm like, this is it's just weird. I think we
all complain to that. You're like, this is it's weird.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
Did you crave did you crave like normal school experience?

Speaker 5 (25:31):
We ever?

Speaker 6 (25:31):
Like, I just want to go to regular little school
high school.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
No, because the producers on our show were really great
and they gave me because I was living in Orange
County also, so I was a little bit outside of LA.
I getting into work on rehearsal days was actually easier
if we left kind of midday. So what they worked
out was I would go to regular school, regular public

(25:55):
school in the morning. My mom would pick me up
like either a little before lunch or right lunch. And
this was of course in the days. You could, you know,
make it from Orange County to Culver City in forty
five minutes or less, right, and I would work on
my script in the car. But I would get to
have at least Mondays off, so I would be in
school Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays, I would go to school

(26:16):
in the morning and then work in the afternoon, and
then Thursdays and Fridays, I did, you know, tutoring on set.
So I had kind of a foothold in some sort
of regular life, which was cool and also not in
some ways, you know, it was. It was definitely kind
of a weird border.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
It's harder in some ways.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
But I'm so grateful for that because I went to
school with kids who weren't in the business. I grew
up most of my friends weren't, you know, like I
had friends in the business, but then like the kids
that I saw every day at school, like I just
had normal life. Yeah, really grateful for that.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Did you want to be an actor?

Speaker 5 (26:55):
I mean, I know you started so young at the time,
were you like, I want to be in this business
or when you came of age and just became a
person you were already an actor at that point.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
No. I always wanted to be a performer or an
actor or a dancer. I loved it. And when I
was little, I was like the kid in the dance recital,
the first dance recital that like pushed my way from
the second row up to the.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
First because yeah, because look at me.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Well no, no, no, because I was like, you guys are
fucking up, you know, Like so I like I was.
That was just sort of my personality was like I
love this, It's so much fun. And it wasn't like
I needed the attention to be on me. I just
loved performing and that's never changed. So I kind of

(27:38):
found my way at a very early age. And then
you know, I've had quote unquote normal jobs at points
in my life in between, but I yeah, I am
very very fortunate that what I started doing thirty seven
years ago is something that I still love to do today.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, so you said you got you had like most
of your friends were outside of the industry, which is
the same thing for me too, because I also got
to go to you know, normal school for most of
the time. But as far as like friends inside the industry,

(28:17):
who were some of your best friends that did work,
you know when you were a kid.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
I know you and I spent quite a bit of
time together.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Like you said, you guys, like I spent a lot
of time. I mean, we all had acting class together.
I remember, I'd say, would be like you guys, anyone
at Young Actor Space.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Right right, you and Christine Laken were friends too, right.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
And yeah, Like I'm trying to think, but that was
like it was probably like you guys, Christine kind of
anyone who was on either ABC shows or that shot
in Herbank, or that acting class or you know what
I mean. We all traveled in the weird same little circles.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah, circles. Anybody who lives at the oak Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
A lot I live. We had the apartment at the
oak Wood, but not the one by Warner Brothers. The
one earthquake a week before that, Oh, my god, and yeah,
and it like we cleared all of our stuff out
in January whatever. We're like, that's fine, won't need the
apartment this, you know whatever for these few months. And

(29:25):
yeah it was on like the first floor too, and
that they was a pancake, so wow. But yeah, like
those are the weird experiences, right when you talk to
kids in this business, you're like, oh, yeah, the oak Wood.
Everyone's like, oh, it's like a weird dorm that you
live in with your parents, you know what I mean.
It's like, yeah, apartment that like everyone just sort of
survives through and they all smell the same. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

(29:50):
like nineteen eighties doctor's office slash therapist furniture.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Or you rented it. I had an apartment where I
rented all my furniture.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I think we may have done that too, but it
was like you could rent it through you know.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, it came furnished already.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Well, they showed you.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
The first thing they did was show you a really
nicely furnished one, and you're like yeah, and then you
walk in you're appatitis.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
That is clearly appatitis right there. That is black on
the wall exactly.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
But they're like there are so many weird days at
the oak Wood that I don't even remember. Like I
had this really weird experience once I was doing some
award thing and Keirson Dunce was there and we're posing
for a photograph of a big group of us and
she's like, I remember Rider coming over and watching Fivele
Goes West at my apartment and I was like, oh,
you were little Kirston, like when we were you were

(30:44):
so much younger than oh my. I was like what,
But she's like, I hadn't remembered that one day the
oak Woods, Like I went to her house.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
She was just a celebrity kids cruise I have.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Don't talk about it, don't talk about it.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
This may be, this may be the time.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
This might be the time. Writer the time.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, writer has traumatic memories of the Kid's crews, but
I love the stars.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
Wait, Jodi, which year did you did you go? Both years?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
God, I had a bunch of I had gone a
bunch of years.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
Because there was one year that Danielle went, and Andrew
was there. That was I went that year. I was
there the year before and there. I don't know if
you were there, but Danielle wasn't there for sure the
first year.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
You know what. I think maybe that the next year
was you and Danielle and Andrew maybe, but the year Jonathan,
I don't think you were there, but you were there
writer and who else and Andrew and Casey and huh

(31:47):
on that year they were on the next I think
that was the next year. But we had done a
few years already with like Andrea and I think Ashley
Mary Kate did one year in the beginning, but they.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
Did their own apparently they had like their own eventually.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, I mean now they actually own carnival cruise lines. No,
but yeah, it's uh, those those were I mean, I
have pictures of us like jet skiing. I see you
remember a rather harrowing incident on a jet ski where
we were like playing tag on jet skis exactly one does,

(32:27):
and we were like steering and we'd have to hit
the other person on the jet ski and.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
This so dangerous. It sounds so dangerous.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yours are cases I think like went up and just
kind of landed on my leg, and I remember my
parents did not want to let me go because they
weren't getting off the boat in Aruba, and I was
like please, what writer is going and what fun?

Speaker 6 (32:52):
I think I remember this and we all actually hurt
your leg?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I did as I do. I seem to wind up
getting injured on things. But yeah, I had like the
jet ski like landed on my leg. I had a
gnarly bruise on it. You shouldn't have gone.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
You were like it was right or strong?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Fine? Yeah, I was like, no, no, I think I was.
I don't even remember if I wanted to say who
did it? I was like, it just happened and we were, you.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Know, jet skis' it's like thunderdome. What the hell were
you guys thinking.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Look, I'm not gonna say I've always made smart decisions
and I'm not. I wouldn't bet a stupid decision like
that later in my life. Well that's let's hold our judgment.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Whow Well, you recently got married. You're a happily married woman.
Now I am congratulations you.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Did you ever date any kid actors? Did you ever
date in the scene?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
No, I never did, because we're all insane and enough
room for one crazy myths and uh yeah, no, I've
never dated. I've never dated an actor, and they're they're
no offense guys. But there, yeah, there are a lot
most most of the male actress that I know. I'm like,

(34:13):
I adore you. I would never want to be around.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
You're right, it's too too in a relationship.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Is is is almost too too many.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
It's that it's that thing of like, two extroverts in
a relationship can work. But when it's two extroverts in
a relationship in a business where you're where, that's just
that that you know.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Right, and you're both insecure actors like.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
You know that I think creates a bit of a mess. Now,
I my husband is he's a therapist and a social worker,
which also works in my favor. But I my therapist,
but no, you know we met working in drug an
alcol treatment years ago and as friends and yeah, I

(35:09):
have always dated people outside of the business.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Smart healthy, Well I'm smart.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
You mentioned it, and you've always been so open about
your struggles with substance abuse, and your story is obviously
incredibly inspirational to watch and to be a to have witnessed.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I blame the cushlings, really, I just have to say
I feel that it was they started me down a
path of nice.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
It's everyone's gateway everyone's gateway are fun but lead to addiction,
which was never a good tagline for the commercial. Yeah,
but and we talked to we writer and Will and
I were together this past weekend. We talked about it
a little bit, where, if anywhere, does being a child
actor fall in the trajectory of your substance abuse struggles

(35:56):
or does it at all? Like we because writer and
I talked about how sometimes something will come out about
somebody years later, or they'll have some thing happen, and
a lot of times the public goes, well, we know
why it's because they.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
Yeah, but then if you think about, like how many
people from like just your right, your average high school
end up with substance of these issues, you're like I have.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Always always said, is that I know I am. You
know my in my book and stuff I talk a
lot about I was adopted at an early age. Both
you know, I'm biologically predisposed to addiction. It runs in
my family, in my my my biological family. And I
was raised by people who didn't drink and who were

(36:40):
very normal and who you know, Yes, and I was
in this business, but I think that I think this
business and also I think any business if you I mean, look,
I've been to recovery long. I can sit in a
room and I'm like, there's a lot of people here
that just aren't in the entertainment business. It seems like
maybe this is kind of across the ford who hear

(37:01):
about it with people in the entertainment industry, because it's people,
you know. So you know, I grew up in Orange
County again, in a nice neighborhood, great schools, like you know,
every like, it was a great place to grow. It
was like leave it to Beaver neighborhood almost and I
along with several other kids, one of whom overdosed in

(37:23):
their parents' bathroom on Thanksgiving, one of whom went to
prison for large narcotic sales, one who went to rehab
four or five times. You didn't hear about those kids, though,
about me, and so you know, I always had to
remember that that, like, look, it wasn't necessarily, that wasn't

(37:48):
the thing that made me have a problem with substance abuse.
But I'm sure that there were, I know, and I
think as I've done more work, and like as I've
gotten older and kind of pulling the strings apart of things,
that it added a layer to it. It added another

(38:09):
layer of wanting to just be like everyone else and
just you know what I mean, and like want to
escape and want and also I suffer from anxiety and
depression that as a kid, I now look back and like, oh, yeah,
like I was ADHD, I had all these things going on,
but like, oh that was all self medicating. The you know,

(38:32):
things I was looking for were actually things that my
brain was like, oh, yeah, that'll do. That'll make it better.
And we happened to just hear about it a lot
because you know, it's because people love to see someone
that it's like, you know, somebody that you went to
high school with and they're like doing really people like,
oh my god, did you hear about so and so? Yeah,

(38:54):
there's that element of gossip to it. And when it's
somebody that everybody knows and you grew up with it,
it's familiar but yet distant enough that like you can
say whatever you want about them, but it doesn't reflect
on you, you know, as whereas when you look at
the problem of seysence abuse across the board affects everyone. YEA.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Being an actor also gives you the financial freedom to
buy all that stuff that you want to buy it.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
But it's true.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
I mean, its you the I mean I was, you know,
I was very fortunate that I had finances to pay
for college and my first car and you know, treatment
and thank god there was it a time when insurance
didn't cover it, and it was you know, like I
was able to get the help that I needed also

(39:42):
because of being in this business. And so I just
think that it is I think it's there's so many
reasons why people in this business, just like any other business,
struggle with it. But I I, you know, I think
the artistic our brains work a little bit differently it

(40:03):
does as I've gotten Oh yeah, yeah, I'm just a
little more creative artsy FARTSI constantly thinking going, you know,
and it takes a lot to quiet that down sometimes.
And I think I think we we just hear so
much about all these child stars, and it's like these
are people that probably would have struggled with substance abuse, illness,

(40:27):
all of that, but we wouldn't all be sitting here
gawking at them and having an opinion about it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
It's also we've talked about, you know, we've covered a
lot of melted illness on the podcast. And I think
the other thing is, you know, we've talked about how
mental illness hits you usually in your late teens early twenties.
So you know a child, you're a child quote unquote
child star, and you're growing up in front of people
and then it's like, look at the turn they've taken.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
It's like, no, that's that's kind of when it.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
When it hits you, it's really twenty is your brain
chemistry changes, particularly let's get so effective disorders and things
like that, And you know, it's sad because growing up
in this business also comes with a lack of privacy
that I you know what's weird is that I've never

(41:13):
had it. I've also my entire life, when I think
about it, I've never had an element of quote unquote privacy,
and so I don't know how that affected me versus
going into it and having a life beforehand and then
losing that that that's also its own form of difficult

(41:36):
you know, as kids were put through a lot, we
go through a lot of stuff, wonderful, fun, amazing, awesome stuff,
and also like the grind of having a really serious
job at that age where a lot is required and
asked of you, and no matter how much you enjoy it,
there's some days when you're like, you know, you don't.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
You also, when you're that young, don't you're not cognizant
of the trade you're making, Right, It's like I'm trading
being on the show and having fun and getting money
in the fame for the privacy and you know, all
the stuff that comes with quote unquote being normal.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
You don't.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
You don't have that, You're not You're not aware of
that when you're four and five years old.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Well, and I remember, I remember in high school, I
had some friends that are like, oh, what's it like
to be famous? Like, oh, man, I love it. And
I remember I said to them, I said, I will
tell you this. You don't know what you have until
it's gone.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
The fact that you get to walk into school or
anywhere and not have people stop and go that is
something that you won't know you miss until you don't
have it. Yeah, you know. And again it's not something
that wherever that I have been ungrateful for, Like as

(42:50):
a kid, Yeah, as a thirteen or fourteen year old girl,
you just want to like go blend in. It's so
the irony of teenagehood is like I want to be
individual that blends in with everyone else. I don't. I
don't want to stick out amongst everyone you know, and
you do, you'd want to just blend in and you
don't get when that doesn't happen anymore, or when you don't,

(43:14):
when you don't, that's just you know, not it. Or
people are handing you things to sign under the bathroom doors.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yes, bathroom stalls. I think I find it incredible. I
think we've all had that experience. I have absolutely legitimately
had the handing under a restroom stall, can you sign
this for me?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
And saying can I can? I can? I wash my hands?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
First, my mom lost her ever loving mind in the
bathroom of Disney World. We were there shooting, and someone
followed me into the bathroom and like got in the
stall next to me, and like my mom's waiting out
by the sink and she's like yeah, and I'm like
hell yeah, I would have lost my I would have
dragged someone out of the stall and bathroom.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
But you men, yeah, men tend to get handed stranger
things under the stall.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
It depends on how many times you tap your foot. Yeah, no,
I I I it is. It's just it's just a
strange world to grow up and you kind of you know,
I like I said, I've gotten used to it at
this point that it is just this weird like background
noise kind of and you're like whatever. But I will

(44:27):
say for all of that, it gave me a hell
of a thick skin. Yeah, where I'm like, you literally
like you can say anything, and.

Speaker 7 (44:35):
I'm like, I don't matter. Yeah, yeah, doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Well.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I was really lucky to be able to reunite with
Bob Saggat through some mutual friends before we also tragically
lost him, and he constantly talked about his TV family
when Full House ended. Did you guys all really truly
remain incredibly close through all the years of it being

(45:10):
off the air?

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Oh? Yeah, wow? Well yeah yeah, I mean the adult Bob, Dave,
John Lorie especially they are they. I mean, Bob and
Dave knew each other since they were.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Like nineteen or something that they can't Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeah, they came up in the comedy scene together, didn't they.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I mean they yeah, the common story Dave. It was funny.
I was getting to hear all these fun stories because
I'm doing some shows at the comedy store now and
I been moving a little bit more into stand.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Up and oh cool, really.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Fun and anyway, So just hearing the stories about how
Bob and Dave met, he was recounting those you know
over the nineties con weekend, which was really cool. But yeah,
they I mean, we all stayed really cool. We would
see each other. I mean, for me probably at that age,
I was like in high school and early twenties college,
so I didn't I wasn't as connected because I was like,

(45:59):
you know, am I, but I will say no more
than you know, six months would go by that I
wouldn't see them, and we would do barbecues and you know,
like summer parties and we'd get together. And Candice was
my matroit of honor at my first wedding. Wow, the

(46:22):
whole cast was yeah, like, you know, we just have
always been close. So when people were asking, like what
was it like to get back together, we were like, oh,
we kind of haven't ever really gotten apart, right, so
we just got to come back and play again. Wow.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
So I mean, it may not this may not be
something that affects you, but I was going to ask
because it's it happens to us all the time that
people are regularly shocked if if they find out that
we haven't that we're not all still best friends. A
huge cast of people like, what do you mean you
don't talk to that person or you haven't talked to
that person a while, Like they they really want the

(46:57):
idea that we are all like best friends.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
But maybe what I'm realizing is that it's your fault problem.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I will take that. No, we are and I say
this with great pride. Every no joke, every guest star
we've had on our show, both on full and Fuller
House has always complimented not only the cast, but the
crew and the family that we created.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I still talk to my set teachers. I still talk
to wardrobe posthumers that we had. I like, I, you know,
Jeff Franklin, I know he flew up to see us
at nineties Con and we like. I love them. I
hang out with Stamos and his wife, Caitlin. I love
her like we have all stayed in each other's lives.

(47:47):
We are all best friends and family like no matter
what we have. You know, we've had family disagreements and
we've had all and we it's just like you know,
it's like it is with your family when you're like,
you know, maybe I'm no matter what, Like that's it.
We we have known each other for too long and
we've all been through too much to think that we

(48:08):
all just kind of know at this point like yeah,
we're all just gonna kind of die together, you know,
culture thing. But but no, but like we're just this
is it for the long haul, Like yeah, you know,
I this is my family. And I had had a
small family. I just me and my parents. I grew
up as an only child. My dad had kids from

(48:29):
a first marriage that I wasn't ever really around, and
they were much older than me. So my family was
my house family. That was it. Those were my siblings.
We swabble like siblings. We would get in arguments, we
would have sleepovers, we would do all of the things
that you did as family. And we still do that.

(48:52):
And our kids are part of it.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
And I know all of their their kids and there
are families and parents and like I, whenever I talk
about it, I I it is amazing because so many
people have said they're like, we've never like people that
work in this business, Like we've never met.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
A cast that's like you guys that's yeah, as you
guys are.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
I know.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
When I was on the show, it was my first
speaking role on a television show.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
I had only done commercials.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah, I had only I had only done commercials before,
and then I.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Had done then and then exactly then there's my there's
the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah, that's but so that Full House was my first
ever speaking role on a TV show. And and I
do remember exactly what you're saying. I walked on and
everyone was so nice and so close, and I still
have it of its own binder full of every single
person's headshots they autographed to me, full of pictures from

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behind the scenes, and my mom and I just saying,
is it how is this possible that this is just
the nicest, most like close supportive group of people from
from crew to cast.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
It was, I mean, it was really great.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Like it makes me emotional thinking about it, because it
was like something and we've always said, and Jeff has
said too, you know, we've said, like we don't know
what magic happened when this cast got together and when
this show happened and when eight years of it, but
like there was something really wonderful and genuine that happened,

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and yeah, I would say that that is the reason that.

Speaker 9 (50:28):
This show has endured and that people still love it, Yeah,
is because you watch it and it's genuine and it
feels like a family that really loves and cares about
each other and is really there for each other.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
It doesn't feel yes, it's you know, got the violins
and the you know whatever. Every it's kind of been
a nice little sitcom bo, but it was. It was real,
the genuine Yeah, love was real, and what you saw
between the characters was there. It was genuine.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Well, you you have two daughters, Zoe and be a
Trix B. If either of them said they wanted to
be actors, what how would you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
B wants to She is in you know, performing arts
program at her school, musical there's an incredible singer. Her
dad's very involved in music and he has really done
a great job getting her involved in that as well.
I think that's kind of what she wants to do,
is be a performer.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Great.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
My Zoe, my older one. She's my athlete. She's like,
just went to State Cups for her soccer tournament this
weekend and nice. Wow, she's very athletic. And she wants
to be right now, I think it's either between like
a lawyer or something else. What was she there's some
you know it changes every week.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
But as it should.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah, exactly, but no I I I would be supportive
of it. And look, my younger daughter had wanted to
do it for a while and her dad was like,
we should have an audition, and I just was.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Like, she's not ready.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, and I and I said that because she didn't
have that same focus and drive as she was a
regular kid where where it was like this is fun.
I don't want to do this now. I don't feel
I'm over it. Whereas like kids that grow up in
this business, it's we we just we will work. We're like, okay,

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I'll keep going.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
I love it so now we can spot it from
a mile away.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
When and you go like, oh, you're the personality that
like could say anything and you'll adjust and you'll figure
it out. Like my girls, for for I love who
they are, but they're both like now that doesn't work
for me right.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
Right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
They're they're there, they are a little wonderfully independent and
where they're like I'll create some stuff, but like I'm
gonna do it my way, and I'm like, that's not
you know. The personality for this is kind of a
you know, as a as a kid growing up in
this business, it's like I have to be creative, entertaining,
but I all also need to know when to just

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follow directions. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
I also need to be a little bit of a
people pleaser.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
And I think that's where probably so many of our
unhealthy dynamics come in, is because as as kids, it
does take I mean acting in general, you have to
have like a fair amount of like I want people
to like me, right, you know. And as a kid,
we all have that in some degree. But now we're

(53:27):
in a business that is reinforcing that, you know, and
and so yeah, you know, you learn like I don't
like it doesn't matter if I don't feel well, it
doesn't matter, Like I just have to show up and
do my job. I didn't want to put my kids
in that position knowing that like that's not there. They're
gonna be like, I'm not doing this right. You know.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
There's an ability to focus when you're little, that you
have to have focus and drive that is just there
or it's not it's like the talent can be there,
but they can't really focus, so they're just not driven
to go every day where you know, the kids we
grew up with, it was like, no, I'm auditioning, I'm
doing this, I'm working, I'm working, I'm working.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
It was you needed to do it.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
I also think just like literary skills too, like you
were saying, like being able to read at the age
of three, Like I was a super early reader too,
and like and I cared about what I was reading
and I wanted to remember I.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Always admired you. I was always like writers so smart.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
But I think that that that that like sort of
verbal you know, that verbal maturity isn't a coincidence. Like
I think that is almost more important than being a
good actor at a certain age, you know what I mean.
It's like if you have a verbal like if your
verbal skills are developed in a way just like a
year or two advanced, and extra bonus if you're small
for your age. Because they didn't play younger.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
My younger daughter is very small for her age, has
able book at you know, all this stuff, But I
know her well enough that she'd be like what you know,
and I am like that a little bit, but can
kind of hyper focus and I just I, you know,
I didn't want to set them up for feeling like
they weren't there yet, and I was like, take your time,

(55:04):
like this isn't the business isn't going anywhere. I also
think it's a lot different now than it was when
we were young people. I would not I would not
want to set my kids up to have to deal
with the social media.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
You want them to be influencers, Come on, let's.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Catch I want my own YouTube channel. Shut up?

Speaker 6 (55:26):
And I'm like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (55:30):
There?

Speaker 2 (55:30):
After?

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Right?

Speaker 2 (55:31):
That's there. That's what they see so like to us,
we're like, you know, but that's that is it? But
it is you know, that is an entire I mean
it was bad enough. I got stories written about me
when I was like nine years old and Star magazine
and that were complete both and you know, rumors would

(55:51):
start and things like that, and you know, the days
before the Internet. I can't imagine it now. I cannot.
I cannot imagine it. The only reason that I'm probably
able to survive the Internet today is because I grew
up without it but still have to kind of build
up that thick skin, but like having all of that

(56:15):
at that age, like, oh.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
My god, you nuts. No, couldn't do it.

Speaker 8 (56:21):
No.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I remember seeing it when we did Girl Meets World
and like trying to imagine, you know. We would do
our live studio audience tapings, which would be so much fun,
and then we'd walk off and we'd go be back
with our families and we'd go home. Writer would fly
home on Friday afternoons, go up north, and we just
went about our lives. And then we did Girl Meets
World and we'd do the live studio audience tapings and
in between sets, like in between you know scenes, right,

(56:44):
but we're on their phone reading the things that the
people who were in the audience were commenting on on
Twitter and saying things like, I don't know, it seems
like these two aren't talking. Seems like these two were
in a fight, and then in between themselves they'd be like, yeah, well,
you know, if there was any drama or if there
was drama, and I just remember watching it happen and going, oh,
I would never I would never have survived this. No, right, No,

(57:08):
I just can't imagine what it's like now.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
So it's like it's just a different you know, I
don't know something the other day something you mentioned justin
Bieber and and like he's not even thirty.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Right, Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Is he not?

Speaker 6 (57:24):
Really?

Speaker 3 (57:24):
It seems like he's been around forever Jesus everybody.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
And what hit me though, was how much I know
about this person's life that I have never sought out,
That I know about this twenty nine year old kid's
life that has been none of it, that has like
he you know what I mean? I was like, yeah,
i'd want to leave too. I want to you know

(57:53):
like that. It's wild to me. I don't I that
part of it. I am so glad that I didn't
have to do as a kid.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Well, it never shuts off. I'm like, yeah, it never
shuts off. We could turn it on and then you
could shut it off. It doesn't ever shut off anymore.
It's now twenty four to seven, which is awful. So yeah,
you don't you there's no such thing as downtime. You're
you are now a personal brand. Your personal life is
blast twenty four to seven.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
And that's just good. Now.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
All the stupid we would have posted kids about the
things and the pictures and what we would have thought
was funny or this like awful at that age, and
now you're like, now you're famous and putting that it's like, oh.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
My god, you know, I know, yeah, terrible.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, it's it's a lot. So I love this business.
I love what I do. I sort of the peripheral
bulk that surrounds it.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Is not always presant.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, but I'm glad that like we got to grow
up in an era of this business that we kind
of were able to put that aside a little bit, yeah,
and still have like.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
A life totally totally well of them.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
There are many, many, many things I admire and respect
about you, but one of the one of the biggest
is the fact that you are so outspoken and you
are so determined to use your platform to speak about
your activism and the things that you that are passion
that are important to you, that you feel passionately about
what what drives that in you. You've always been outspoken,

(59:34):
You've always been that way.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
But like, tell me a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I would say that becoming a parent probably changed a lot,
just growing up and maturing and kind of paying attention
a little bit more. But I think really having two
girls in this world and watching how the how the
world is changing and what going on and kind of

(01:00:01):
where we're at. It just became apparent to me that
I was like, Okay, well, I now I'm fortunate to
have been able to come back in the business. And
I was working on the Fuller and I was doing stuff,
and you know, it was coming to that point where
I was like, why, I how do I remain true
to myself and speak out and also you know, kind

(01:00:24):
of manage what the expectation of a you know, a
full house and fuller houses and so you know, I
I would say I started getting more involved in my
public activism towards the end of the show, and I
just you know, I always say to being like, I'm
just kind of a loud mouth, like I if I
see so if I see injustice or I see something

(01:00:48):
that's not working, I'm like, Hey, that's stup. What are
we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Well, that's not okay? And I don't know how to
be I don't know how to not feel that, and
so I like it's just become something where I'm like,
look if I if I'm gonna have to deal with
that peripherable of having a platform and and having some
of that privacy and stuff that's gone anyway, Well then

(01:01:13):
what do I do with it? How do I take
that and make it work towards something that I that
I am passionate about that isn't just people come into
my Instagram just for the sake of like what did
I eat for lunch? You know what I mean. That's
that's why I don't like social media, because I'm like,
it just feels, you know, who cares? I don't care.
I don't care what I eat for lunch, you know,
like I don't care what I'm wearing today, But that

(01:01:36):
stuff I care about.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
And yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
I've just been more and more involved. I've been kind
of quiet on social media lately, I think just because
I was really really in it for a while and
then it was it just is all on. It was
like I needed a little bit of a quiet moment.
But I am you know, I have a couple events
coming up on Friday, and I'll be doing those and
working on planning some stuff and potentially working with a

(01:02:01):
new organization in Haiti and doing some travel and stuff.
So we'll see. But I love the friends that I've
made in that community and other people that just really
give it and aren't afraid to stand up and say something.
So I'd rather I'd rather be slightly less popular but
true to who I am. Then you have all the

(01:02:22):
popularity in the world and not use my mouth for
something you know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
And stand up for the things you believe in and right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
And I also feel like how rude just applies as
a blanket statement to so many things. Yeah, that really is. Yeah,
so nothing nothing more needs to be said.

Speaker 6 (01:02:41):
That's awesome, Jody.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
We are so grateful that you came and spent this
time with us today. We love you, adore you. I
would say we should all go on a cruise together,
but writer would absolutely kill me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Fine, you guys don't need.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
To come, Dan, Yelle and I will go.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
I know, I love the cruise. I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I'll let's do it again.

Speaker 6 (01:03:03):
I will play jet ski tag though.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I'm like, but this time I'd be better at it
because I'd like allar like, this is, this is, this is.
I'm still kind of done.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
We've never lost that competitive streak.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
I say we add paintball guns to it really make
a tag.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
I mean so easily like me too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
I'm like a peach. Like a peach.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Yeah, I hate like full body armor that kind of
make it look so stupid that like thro your paintballing,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
I'm going to leave you with one little thing that
I'll send to you. Yeah, Jody, They're cool. This is
our new Kushling pin. I'll send you a couple.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Oh my god, I love that. That's amazing. Is on
my jacket that I wear.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Yeah, that's perfect. Well, Jody, thank you again for being
here with us.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
You guys ill.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
We're ready to jump right into the full House rewatch
as soon as this one's over, in about you know,
seventeen years and uh you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Know, well, we'll ask you to join us for that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Oh I'm in.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
You'll probably have more inside scoops than we will, so
it'll probably be better.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Yeah, clip, I'm all about weird mystery science theater in
full House. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Right, I love it. Thank you, Jody, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I didn't even get to talk to her about the
fact that, while researching this, Jensen discovered that Jody and
I were on a show called Yes Deer Together. We
we guest starred on that show with uh, I know that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
What do I know that?

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
That post that was the early aughts?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yeah, I think it was like two thousand and three,
two thousand and six, something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
And uh, do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
You guys remember Bobby Trendy Do you remember hearing that
name at all? He was Anna Nicole Smith's interior des
and before he was ever her into your designer, he
was on that show with us and I, of course
this will not surprise.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
You have very little memory of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
So oh, I thought you were going to say dated him,
and I was like, okay, just.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
Very very yeah, which is up with that?

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Will was gay? Soious, curious, just curious. Oh my, that
was fun. That was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
She's so quick.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
I can't believedn't even I was smart.

Speaker 6 (01:05:25):
Oh my god, she's so quick.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
We didn't even get to ask her more questions about
the fact that she's going into stand up now.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
I know that was where we're going to have to
go and check out one of herself.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
That would be fun.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
I would love that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
We'll go to the comedy store sometimes because that would
be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
That would be so cool. Yeah, I'll tell her we
want to do that. I'll get some get some dates
from her, because that's amazing. She would She's perfect for it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
By the way, when you said Jensen looks something up,
you do mean producer Jensen, husband of this podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
I'm sure. I'm just making sure it's the same person.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
I'm sorry. I should have been more clear about that.
There are so many other gents.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Well, only ones married to all of us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
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Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
See y'all next time. Writer send us out.

Speaker 6 (01:06:38):
We love you all, pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is
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