April 14, 2025 • 64 mins
Get into a Flying V formation because this week the podcast is welcoming a Mighty Ducks icon!
Shaun Weiss is best known as Goldberg the Goalie, Josh in Heavyweights and most importantly to us, Louie in Boy Meets World!
Hear all about how Will and Shaun go WAY back, and how Pee-Wee Herman helped Shaun land his first gig.
Plus, Shaun shares all the behind-the-scenes stories about Ben Stiller’s unhinged character in Heavyweights and opens up about his inspirational journey to sobriety.
Ducks fly together - right here on Pod Meets World!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H I don't see you guys for a week now,
(00:21):
and there's a there's a a Danielle and Ryder's eye
hole in my I.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Know right, I've missed you. Howf you goes been? What
did you?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Did?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You cry every day without me? Okay? No, no, no, okay?
But what have you been up to? H? Sweet? Sweet?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, I've been podcast walk his dog, my dog.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
He's had conversations with his wife where the asked me
to do I talk my wife a lot?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
No, We're we're currently taking multiple bids for some serious
construction at our house, so we're getting ready for craziness.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
How'd the closet reno go?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's awesome?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So it's like, you know, we've got this big, big, huge,
walking kind of kind of situation.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You get to go shopping for what?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh god, No, it's just the clothes that I do
have now aren't in a giant pile on the floor.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's the same clothes from Boybys World, like something for me.
I stick with them.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
The I got rid of them when they literally no
no longer hold the shape of clothing.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
That's when I get rid of them.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
All right, that's when it's too much? Yeah, right, or
what have you been up to?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Oh my god, I don't know. We went to nineties cons.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
It was really good. It was really it was actually
like a different crew. There was like the Scream people
and some nine o two one oho folks. Uh yeah,
I'd never met I mean I'd met Brian Austin Green,
but I never really talked to him, and he's like
a great guy, and so Leigh Moonfry, who I hadn't
seen for years.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It was great.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
It was such a good time, Like it was actually
not not expected. I was like, oh, we're doing nineties
con again, it's gonna at this at the point it's
going to be winding down and not a big deal.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And instead the.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Crowd was huge.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It was great.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
It's like, wow, people really want time travel.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, we ave the nineties. It's so weird, Like it
was a lot of fun. It was. It was a
lot of fun, huge crowds. Like yeah, writer said.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
The thing that was weird about this year was we
were on the floor so much that I almost didn't
see anybody else, Like it was never in the green room.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
With everybody where we normally hang out and kind of talk.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So yeah, my dad was there and oh, Okay, first
of all because of the podcast, so tons of people
coming up talking about the podcast like how much they
loved it. And my dad was there and people were going,
is that the captain? Can I take a picture with
the captain? So my dad was taking pictures with people.
(02:44):
But he was so happy sitting there taking pictures and
people were calling the captain.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
He loved it. So my flight home I was a
complete disaster, wasn't.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
We got on one plane, had to get off and
you know, get on another plane, change whatever, Like I
did all the things wrong. Will, like I know you
always go like to work flight and that's why you
were flying out a box, right, Okay, So I didn't
get home till like four in the morning.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It was a nightmare, except it was me and the
Lawrence brothers. Yeah, the best time. It was somebody like
I haven't.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Talked to Joe like forever, like since we were teenagers basically,
and for whatever reason, the three of us just bonded
and were laughing and telling stories and I.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Was like, oh, I'm the fourth Lawrence brother I felt.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
So it was like, it's okay, it's at an airport
where like having a tran and yet every and what
the best part is like people would recognize one of
us and not the others, so they'd be like they'd
come up to me and be like hey, in the
hand of the camera to Matt and be like take
a picture, or they just recognized Joe and hand camera
to me, but like can you take a bit?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
And we're like what that was? Like, yeah, so was
this in force? It was this in Bradley. Were you
at the airport in Hartford? Is this week? Then we
got stuck in Dallas, So we were stuck in Dallas
for it worth for like you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Know, three hours or whatever.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
But I'm telling you, like, I you know, I've obviously
seen Matt a bunch, but I haven't hung out with
Andy and Joey and like they're great, you know. And
also just like talking to Joey about being a dad,
like it's a very different like we just haven't caught
up and it was so fun and I yeah, I
just I love those guys and like, yeah, they're genuinely
friendly to everybody around them, Like they don't stop, like
(04:24):
they just are like and it's so fun to be
part of that bubble as you're like going through airports
and like running into people because everybody loves them and
they're so.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Kind to everybody. Yes, it was really fun. It was
really good time.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
I'm glad you guys had a good time. I'm sad
that I missed it. I was directing. I was doing
the other thing that I love. I was directing a
TV show for Disney Channel called How We Became the
Biggest Band. It was so much fun. But I did
miss you guys. I had a little bit of fomo.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You guys did a fun panel.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
At nineties Cone, right, it was like a ninetyggh was.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
That it was good. It was good.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It was one of those things so where it was
you know, I prefer personally panels where you just kind
of you talk for five minutes and you open it
up to questions.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, and we did the opposite.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
We spoke for forty minutes and then we had five
minutes left for questions.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
We got two questions in and we went. But you know,
it's fun.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You're we're on the panel and it's myself and Rider
and Solet and Juliel.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
Fun.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But it was it was just kind of fun to
be with everybody and talk about different experiences, and it
was it was a really fun weekend and it's you know,
I get to go home that Mike exactly claim in Hartford,
So it's a great place.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Nice, Danielle. Did you get to do like, are there
musical insequences in the I.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Got to shoot a whole music video?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Cool?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It was so much fun. It was truly so incredible.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
So the first week I was there, I was a
little like gobsmacked by how fast it moves, because it
moves real.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Fast, as in so fast.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
You only have two hours of rehearsal on the first day,
and you do a producer's run through on the first
day with two hours as wow, because they for three days,
so they shoot Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So Monday morning, no audience.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Monday morning you do a production meeting, a table read,
then the kids go to school and then you start
rehearsal at noon and you do rehearsal until two and
then you do a two thirty pm.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Run through and ea, oh my god.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
And then on day two you do a network run
through and that day you only have three hours of rehearsal.
So if the script doesn't change much between Monday and Tuesday,
three hours on Tuesday you're like, what are we gonna
do with all this time?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Because does it changed?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
There's a script kind of lockdown.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Well, my first week it didn't, So I came in
like Rare and I saw my first day, I was
like everyone had warm me, like the show moves really fast.
And then on my first day I was like I
was not prepared. So then the next day I came
in like Rare in Togo and we ended up feeling
like we had so much time because the script didn't
change much. But then my second week, the script changed
a lot, so much so that we didn't do.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
A producer run through on Monday.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
So we did a combo producer network run through on
Tuesday with a brand new script with only three hours
of rehearse.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
God, you're shooting the next day, no.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Closers run through because the table read, they were like,
we're just going to be working on We're just.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
Going to be working all day and there's no point
in putting something on its feet that that we know
is probably going to change. So we had you know
so so and then you're shooting the next day. It's like, okay,
you're shooting.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I'm getting adjutve you just explaining what's happening, like I'm
imagining the change, so I get oh geez.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And so there are they new songs, like they have
original songs.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
All the originals, and.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
They've recorded them ahead of the week, and then.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
You like, shoot yes, And they also have to learn choreography,
like that's how much time I have for rehearsal and
they're learning choreography in that time.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Like, can we give the girls twenty minutes to go
learn for full dance? Numbord's like yes, I think we
can do that. We have no we have no other choice.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
These kids are working so hardly.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They are working their butts off.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
But let me tell you the only reason that schedule
is at all able to work is because they are
so gosh darn talented and they are on their lines
and they are taking risks and having fun and it's
just beautiful. Like on my third week, because then you know,
(08:14):
my third week, I'm like, I'm in it. I know
exactly what we're doing. Everybody's in a nice groove. And
one of the girls put on a performance for us.
She had to play this totally different character and she
just came out and she had so much confidence.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And just nailed it, nailed everything.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
It's a big set, lots of crazy blocking where she's
really vamping it up as this totally out of the
box character.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And I literally cried. I literally I cried. I cried
watching it.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
I was like, I'm so proud of them. I'm so
proud of them, Like what they are doing is amazing,
and it was just incredible.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Weeks is the show about like a girl group? Are they?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Is it one of those things where it's almost like
The Monkeys, where it's like they do it's a show,
but then they also are a band that's together.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Is that thing?
Speaker 7 (09:06):
It's a show called How We Became the Biggest Band,
and it takes place in two time settings, a current
day which is the future, where they're already the biggest
band and they're eighteen years old and they're telling you
how we got here. Most of the show then takes
place in flashbacks showing you how they met correct, okay,
how I met your mother?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
With a with a with a band?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
All the same cast or are there an adult version
and a younger.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
The same cast, which is one of the reasons why
it moves so fast.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
There is no B storyline. The B storyline is them in.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
The future show.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, there's no as of right now, there's no
adults on the show. It's just four core cast members
that are all miners, and so you're dealing with school schedules,
and you know, all of the they also are playing
instruments and like, you know, one of them is like
learning guitar, so she's in music class. Diane or In
is writing like half the songs. The music is incredible.
(10:04):
It gets stuck in your head. We had to listen
to it dozens of times. I wasn't sick of any
of it, which is really saying something. It was just
really great.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It was really hardly it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Works because Disney does not is not really known for
their musicals, especially if that take place in high school.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, it's usually they don't do well.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
The old flops with Disney and musical those never work.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I mean, come on, Welcome to Pond Meets World. I'm
Daniel Fishal, I'm righter strong.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Ah oh if it, I'm sorry, audition, We're officially done.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
Damn it.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
It's been quite some time since the days of the
Death Chair, the rotating season one child guest star who
changed week to week but mostly pulled from the movie
The Sandlot, and though we became used to seeing a
familiar young face thrown into the mix, whether it's Marty
Yorke as a best friend, Arianna Richards in a very
special episode, or Andrew Keegan in Orlando, the show has
(11:16):
since left the young stunt casting behind.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
To focus on us, the core cast of the show.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
So when we did have a new guest star firmly
set in our age bracket, especially one from a ton
of hit movies and TV shows, it was a big deal,
and this week's guest is a prime example. He rose
to fame as the comedic goalie in The Mighty Ducks,
Greg Goldberg, an iconic role he'd revisit for an entire franchise,
but it was another Disney movie he'd star in, Heavyweights.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That many of us hold nearest and.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Dearest to our hearts. A bit of a child prodigy
when it came to making people laugh, he began his
career in one of the coolest places ever, Pee Wee's Playhouse,
and he went on to appear on shows like Sabrina,
Freaks and Geeks, The King of Queen's and Yes, Boy
Meets World, where he played Louis a new college friend
that appeared in two season six episodes, and beyond the
(12:06):
hilarious work he's done on screen, he has also become
an inspiration for those dealing with addiction, honest and open
about his own struggles, still using humor to cope and
connect with those online looking for motivation. So this week
on Podmets World, let's get into the flying V for
Sean Weiss.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Look at your beautiful background.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Is that gonna be okay? For the thing?
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You look great? Where are you?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Thank you? I'm in Georgia. I got to Georgia like
two months ago. I moved here. Wow.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Yeah, there are trees in Georgia.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Breathing fresh air is like I didn't even know.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I wasn't right I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Started, Yeah, it's you know, I was.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I was really kind of emotional, somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I was kind of emotional leaving la you know.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I just always pictured myself living there, and from the
moment I got there, I was in love with that place.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
So it was a little hard to go. But I
love it here. I's I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Good for you. Thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
It's so good to see you. Thank you so much
for doing this. We want to start with where it
all began for you. I know that you were an
East Coast kid. You were out of New Jersey. So
how did you convince your parents to start driving you
to the city for auditions.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Well, honestly, it was my it was my mom's idea, Okay,
but it wasn't like my mom got me into it
and forced me to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
She got me into it, and then once I started,
I mean I.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Was hooked with the whole process of going on auditions
and I got to skip school and stuff. Yeah, I
was a very precocious kid, and I had older step
brothers and stepsisters. They were in like years older, and
they would get me to do crazy things like walk
up to adults and give them the middle finger, you know,
(14:08):
ask adults how their sex life is. When I was yeah,
I was walking around saying these things that adults had
made me say. And I guess I looked like I
was sharp, right, and they could in show business, So
it was you know, my mom took me to see
a manager at one of these cattle calls and she
(14:28):
just liked me, and very instantly I started doing commercials
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Wow, and I remember that.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I just remember that circuit because we were on the
same circuit back in the day. He was always seeing
each other at auditions and you're just you're always with
the same twenty five kids everywhere you go.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, you were one of the guys I used to
see all the time. And then we did that show together.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, True Blue.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Well True Blue. I had to explain it to my fiance.
I was like, it was kind of like a er
but there was.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
A truck invall.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
Yes, let's talk about that because we'll mentioned that you
guys worked together. He actually said you were like his
very first actor friend.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
My onset buddy, my first onset buddy.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, yeah, well you were. I think that was one
of my first like TV jobs me too.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It was my first ever TV show.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Dude. You were so nice. And here was the thing
we were.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
We shot this thing out on top of a cliff, yep,
and it was very dangerous, right and not freezing.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
It was cold. Yeah, it was ice cold.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
You couldn't feel your toes and if we moved in
the wrong direction, it was like.
Speaker 9 (15:35):
Exactly, hey, kids, you're fine, just walk up to the
edge of this cliff and it don't But we're going
to pay you to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So I remember that day.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Oddly enough, I remember that day better than I do
stuff that happened two weeks ago. But I remember you
were like very protective of me and very like really
helping me not fall off that cliff, and so I
got I found out kind of the guy you were
very early, and meeting up with you years later, you
(16:14):
really never changed and I appreciated that well.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I you were my first onset friend. We had a blast.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I remember it being freezing cold, and then one scene
we have to cross a river and I hear splash
and I look behind me and you had fallen into
the river like all like up to your neck, and
they pulled pulled you out, and we're like trying. Everyone's
warming you up, and the putting in front of heaters,
and then after that like all right, great, get on
(16:44):
the edge of the cliff, and it was just it
was and then they remember we shot. They they brought
us to that stage and they built the cave and
it was all this smoke they were pumping in and
all this peat.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I was just I would be blowing my nose for
weeks with just all this black coming out like it
was bad.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
This is New York in the eighties where they were like,
just do it, kid, just doing fine. They handed me
at one point, with no prep whatsoever, they handed me
a fully loaded AK forty seven.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Who were you guys playing?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Were you criminals this story? Did you remember?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
It was like the drug dealer that was after us
because we found his stash and stash so we found
was like an AK forty seven.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Oh so that's the thing is we find that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
We leave our school field trip at the Cloisters and
we go down. Robert Mitcham's son Chris Mitcham plays the
bad guy, and we find this cave and I find
an AK forty seven and I go hey, and I
spray the cave and there's a.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Huge cave in which blocks him off.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I then get beaten up and thrown off the cliff
by the drug dealer and still no, I'm like, I
fall like thirty feet down.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
They put makeup on me.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
My head's broken open all stuff, and so truck one,
which is what the show used to be called, shows up,
and it's all these really good looking actors. It's like
Grant Show from Melrose Place before he's on Melrose Place
and Ali Walker and all these people like repelling down
to get me and then they've got to go bury
dig him out of the cave.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
It was like it was intense, man.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It was.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Listen no stunt doubles anywhere for the first time seeing
a squid go off right next to my head and
be like, I probably shouldn't get too close to that thing.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Both of you were both such talented young comedians. So
despite whatever crazy circumstances, I bet this movie is incredible.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Want to watch it now?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, it's on It's on YouTube. It's an episode called
Caves True Blue.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Hell yeah, my evening entertainment.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
To write that down, it would be difficult to beat
you for best first job. You were a recurring character
on Pee Wee's Playhouse, So I mean you shared the
screen with the legendary Paul Rubins. You probably sat on
cherry right.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, I get to do that.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
So what I mean it must have been like a
dream like experience. What are some of the most unreal
stories from set?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
It was. I mean, they really did a good job
to create like a very fun, uh kid like atmosphere
for us when we were on set, and I remember
talking to, uh, the genie Phil Hartman.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Oh my god, wasn't that Phil?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Oh my god? Was that Phil Hartman?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
That was Phil Hartman?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Was the original genie on on Pee's Playhouse.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I'm almost I don't know if that was the guy.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I mean, I have to check down now, I have
to check because that was Phil Hartman. Then I've got
some crazy Phil Hartman memories. But what I mean, I
remember just seeing the movie Pee's Big Adventure.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Movie at that age, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Who was it, John Peck.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
John Paragot came so Phil did it like first, and
then that guy came in.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And did like.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
But anyway, I saw Peey's Big Adventure and found out
I had an audition for this show. And I'm not
sure that I really understood the difference between like real.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Life and movies.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
So going on to.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Pee Wee's, going on to the set there, it was
really mind blowing. But what I do remember is I
fell in love with like the trick of movie making.
When I found out there was a guy sitting inside Cherry,
I was like.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Oh, this is so cool, and I really I really.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Got enamored with that whole thing of like you know,
making a camera tricks, you know what I mean, definitely
one of the aspects that also you know, made me
fall in love with the whole movie making things.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
So that was that was a crazy experience.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
One another memory that stands out one hundred percent is
uh Laurence fishburn Lawrence Fishburne.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Used to show us his tongue.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
And he had some kind of crazy thing where his
tongue it looks like a lizard of what It's a
big triangle with like wedges, and we were.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Thinking of that.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
He'd be like, check this out, and he'd go and
the thing would come out to hear and wave around.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Definitely something never party trick was not on my card today.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Okay, okay, stuck out for sure. If I ever meet him,
you see him and I haven't seen him since, but
if I ever see him again.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
He'd be like, I have a memory. I'm going to
need to make sure correct.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That I didn't just dream this.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That's the thing too, what of my mind's just playing tricks.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
On me and has a totally normal tongue.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I have a question was was there did did Paul
Rubens break character.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
On the set or was he always Peek. He was
always pee Wee, right, he was.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Always Peee, but a very quick story to kind of
give you an idea of the kind of guy he was.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
So I got the audition and it's it's.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Tomorrow, and I stayed up all night memorizing my five lines,
and I'm gonna do a scene with pee.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Wee the next day.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
My mom schleps me into New York, like a three
hour trip, and there's all the waiting, and you know,
it's five hours before I'm in a room with the guy,
and mind Joe only sticks. So I get into the
room and uh, Paul there, but he's not in character.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
He's just Paul Rubens and he's got a beard and.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
He has glasses, and I just I didn't believe it
was him. And so they kept telling me that's Paul,
and I'm like, listen, I know him only six right, I.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Know pee Wee. When I see pee Wee, that ain't
pee Wee.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
And so I gave them such a hard time because
I was this kind of kid, you know. And so
Paul left the room for about half hour however.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Long, and transformed himself into Pewee.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Everything costume and came back into the room as Peeley
so that I could the audition, and I told him,
I said, Peeley, I just got to let you know
before you got here, there was some guy and he's
telling everybody that he was you.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
And Paul said, yeah, that was Paul. He does that
to everybody.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Oh my god, Yeah he says that to people.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
That's oh God, make me feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I love that story.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
He's a real sweetheart.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You just, Daniel, You didn't even realize what you just did.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
What you just did the peewee tagline.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I love that story.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I love that's just straight upline.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
So then John, were you coming out out to l
A for pilot season? And then if you did come
out to l A, were you staying at the oak Woods?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I did do an oak Wood.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, of course he was.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
That was all in New York.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
A couple of years later I came out and did
the full l A pilot season at the oak Woods.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
I think I might have come out maybe three maybe
three different times, three different occasions, all oak Woods.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Maybe. Were you got oak Woods kids too?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Of course?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Where?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, yes, of course you're just from California day.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yeah, we were from here, so we we had we
lived here. I've lived here my whole life.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I got so Will and Ryder.
Speaker 10 (25:21):
Oh yeah, nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety two, and nineteen
ninety three because it was the first season A Boy.
I was still at the Oapens living there for the
first season The Boy's World.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, ninety three, ninety four, So.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
You got boy out of while you were living in yep,
while I was rollerblading around the oak Woods.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Man, I was in the Z building my first year
than the M building. Yeah, it's so quick.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I don't think it's the oak Woods anymore.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It's not. And there's no pilot season, so I went, now,
it's just DIVORCEMN. So yeah, it's strained.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I knew. I knew the tennis coach at the oak Woods.
You know people that don't know. It's like a little
city within a city, right, Yeah, And I knew the
tennis coach and his main hustle was he would give
free tennis lessons and he was friends with all of
the hot child actors. When oak Wood ride up, I'm
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sure his you know, personal life did too.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Funny.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
So after Pee Wee's Playhouse.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
You go into an arc on Webster, which is another
slightly hallucinatory show. You played Herbert. What was your character.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
I think that was just you know, Webster had like
a group of friends, and I was one of them
and the other one was Miambiolic.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Oh wow, Yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Was me and Mim and all of the episodes that
we were on, We're on a handful, we were kind
of recurring and it was always me and her going
on together.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Similarly to p Emmanuel Lewis as Webster is like a
real larger than life character to young jen xers.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
What was it like to work with him?
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I was like obsessed with the manual because I was
a Michael Jackson fan and he used to go around
with Michael all the time. Michael he would either bring
an Emmanuel of the monkey bubbles.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Bubbles.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't know how he would pick.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
But it was a little odd because he was like
an adult. So when we got on the show, like
he wasn't the age he was playing. I guess he
was playing eleven, but he was probably eighteen or nineteen
right older.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
So he was very cool, but he didn't We didn't
really spend a lot of time together because of.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
That, because he was an adult.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
But he was very nice and we still keep in touch.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
On that's great.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Thanks God for Instagram. You know you can just drop anyone, Aline.
I know it's it's a little annoying.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
As like from the celebrity standpoint, because you know, used
to be had to write somebody a fan mail and
you could ignore them.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You can't do that anymore. You got to answer.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
Just before what would end up being your big break,
you did an episode of The Cosby Show, completing a
very surreal trilogy of first gigs. It is the biggest
sitcom in the universe at the time.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That job couldn't have been easy. What was that like?
Speaker 5 (28:34):
It was like, you want to talk about an energy
pulsating that's tangible going on that set.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
It was like being in a part of something that.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Was like alive and taking and such a beautiful energy
there in New York. And the first day I went
for my audition, I ran into Adam Sandler because he
was on the show too, and I guess he was
at the production office for some but I had a
whole chat with Adam and got to be friends with
him and didn't even know it was Adam Sandler. Yeah,
(29:06):
so we Adam and I go back to you know
whatever year that was, was that like nineteen eighty seven?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yes, what crazy?
Speaker 7 (29:15):
Okay, So let's get into Mighty Ducks. So then Mighty
Ducks comes along and you would play the iconic Goldberg.
What was that audition like, did you have any hockey experience?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
I had no hockey experience, but the character when I
got the part, wasn't for a character named Goldberg, who
was originally written to be a kid named a Tuk.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
And you only had one line in the whole movie.
I'm the Tuk, the goalie.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
So when we got to training camp, I think the
producers and you know they the writers, they got to
know us a little better, and I suppose they figured
with my big mouth, I'd be better suited, you know,
making more remarks.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah, with that dialogue.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
When I get the part, it was just the one line,
and it took us over six months of auditioning, and
I must have been back five or six times.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
And you guys know how it is.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
You go in the room and they weren't giving me,
giving me any notes or anything. So I was just
going in the room and doing that, I took the
goalie every time.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Oh my gosh, wait, they brought you back that many
times for just that one line.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
That one line.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
They were probably doing like tons of mix and match
sessions and they were like, which which group of kids
looks the best on camera?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, when I think back, that had had to do
what it was.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Oh, so you're thrown into a hockey team, albeit it's
a fictional one, but you're filming in Minnesota together.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Did you guys have bonding.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
Exercises and all start to have that like real team connection?
Speaker 5 (30:54):
And I would say our bonding exercise was training camp
because before the movie.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
They had to teach us liars who told them we
knew how to play, And we did a camp, a
training camp that was legit right.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
It was you know, eight in the morning till three
every day and I think it was three months.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So where did you Where were you staying?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
They put us off at like the fattest condominium situation
you could ask for.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
It was nice working.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
It was my first like film, and it was awesome
to do it for a big company like Disney.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I thought that now they would all.
Speaker 11 (31:35):
Be yeah, yeah exactly, so yeah, we definitely so Not
only did we have training camp, but we also did
recreational stuff together.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
They would put us all in the duck bus and
like take us to a movie or land. So we
definitely I don't know about I can't speak for the
other guys, but I definitely felt like I was really
part of a team, and I think that really showed in.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
The in the film.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I think that's what, you know, people can relate to that.
That feeling kind of probably comes off screen.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Do you love seeing people in Goldberg jerseys now so
many years later?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
It never gets old? Danielle ye Old, Yeah, no, it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Did Emilio Estevez feel like your coach.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Milo, That's a really good question.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
I don't know if he felt like a coach To me,
he always just felt like a movie star, Okay, yeah, yeah,
because Amelio was a movie star at that time, and
you know, he didn't he wasn't. It wasn't you know,
his personality wasn't affected in that way. But he definitely
had movie star energy.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, he had that presence.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So when he was around, you know, I was always
just kind of starstruck. I'll be honest with you, But
he could not have been like any cooler or any
you know, more down to earth and just an awesome
guy to work with. He would do a couple of
times he would rent out a movie theater and just.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Have us all go to watch some movie together.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
He had a one come out called Judgment Night, and
he took us to see that one.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I like that as a team.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's really cool. That's very cool.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
So after Mighty Ducks comes out, you become very recognizable.
How does life change for you after that movie comes out?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I guess when you mentioned I guess it did change
a little bit. I mean it was kind of.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
A gradual thing because I was doing TV and I
was getting recognized for stuff. But definitely getting recognized in public.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Was something to get used to. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I always it never bothered me in the way I
see you know. I guess there are certain times where
you know you're having dinner or something and it's.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
A little weird. Yeah, but I always enjoyed.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Just I felt like it was a complement of the work.
And I never really took personal credit for how successful
The Mighty Ducks was, and I just figured that I
was a part of something that was really successful, and
I was very proud of it.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I guess you'd say, yeah, so great, so healthy.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
A shoot was that I didn't get I didn't start
the problem with me didn't start till later.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
It was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
How long a shoot was Mighty Ducks? Uh?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Well so two months of camp and then maybe ninety
days of a shoot.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay, so like full five months and then you shown
for D two?
Speaker 7 (34:47):
How long how long after the first one came out
did you guys go back for D two?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I want to say less than a year?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Oh wow?
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
So he likes to pump them out if they if
they know they have a hit, it's like, let's do
the next one.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I think they got the I did have the hockey
team and they were like, all right, let's let's do well.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah, because it's I mean, is this the first time Ryder?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You're good with all this this Hollywood stuff, but I mean,
is this the first time a fictional sporting team literally
then became a professional sporting team.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I think so.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
I remember the Mighty Ducks stadium and the tea and
it was just like, this is crazy that Disney's going
this big and making this a thing.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Like yeah, it was also it's illegal.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I started buying up the world.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
But I remember that because I went to a Mighty
Ducks game and I wore my Whaler's jersey, and literally
the next day in my dressing room there was a
Mighty Ducks jersey with a note from somebody at Disney
was like, saw you at the game last night.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
If you go again, please wear this. I remember, And
it was like.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I was like, Okay, I guess sorry for Disney.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Did that happen after the show is on the air
that Disney and ab she became Buddy.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
Yeah, it was like ninety six ninety seven, so it
was in the middle of our run answering. Yeah, yeah,
So I want to talk Heavyweights. It's one of the
(36:24):
darker Disney comedies ever made, written by jud Appatoo, follows
a group of kids sent to a weight loss camp
run by maybe one of the funniest and most psychotic performances.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Ever heard with Ben Stiller.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
Stiller is Tony Purkis. How do you not break in
every scene with him?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Dude? That is a great question.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
It's the only time I've ever had an issue with
that in my entire career, which was not a thing
for me. Right but have a straight face. When Ben
was doing that thing like this close to you was difficult,
was difficult, and I can be honest, like Ben wasn't
trying to be funny, right, he was very intense and
(37:10):
very like scary. It was definitely a little scary. I
think he wanted to have that effect on us, and
I'm pretty sure it worked on everywhere.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
I mean definitely how much of it was improv versus
actually scripted.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
I want to say almost everything he said was his
own off the cuff stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I mean they might have like.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Arranged it a little before the tape, you know, but
so much it was all, you know, And I think
that was it was like that for all of us
and where we had the freedom if we wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Off the books, and that was just amazing, you know,
to have that setup.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
And I think that's kind of where Judd began to
develop that style of his you know, let's comedians sort
of writ So yeah, definitely we were allowed.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
To do that.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
And it was weird because on The Mighty Ducks the
directors we had were also very encouraging when it came
to improvise, not improvising at living because we had a
lot of scenes where it was like, you know, the
ducks make their way to the limo, or the ducks
make their way to the bench. You know, there's shots
of a lot of us moving somewhere, and always they
(38:22):
were always open to us picturing the lines.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, so I love that.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Yeah, And I thought that's how it would be all
the time, and you know, not so much. You know,
I started working on sitcoms and stuff, and you can't
show up on Boy World and be like, I'd like
to say this right now, can we try it?
Speaker 4 (38:43):
My way?
Speaker 7 (38:47):
Was Ben able to turn it off between the scenes,
like was he laughing joking with you guys, or was
he pretty much in character?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Ben was sitting character.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
He really did, and I think you know, the way
he did that was by separation, and he was he
wasn't lax about it.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
It was like cut, I'll be over here.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
And he was very deliberate in not establishing friendly relationships
with us.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Right friend on this movie.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
I don't know if if that, you know, worked for
him because he didn't like kids or fat kids or what.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
But he definitely made.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
A choice to do that and I think it worked.
But on the last day of production, Uh, you know,
we were out there three months and I walked up
to him and I said, Ben, like I went to
shake his hand. I said, this has been just the
magical experience learning from you and observing for you, and
I just want to thank you for an incredible shoot.
And he shook my hand and said, you're welcome, and
(39:48):
what's your name again?
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Oh my gosh, was he even serious?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I don't know. Wow.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Movie is like a cult classic because it didn't really
hit at the time. But I remember, like ten years later,
like I guess in the early aughts, having a friend
be like, you haven't seen Heavyweights.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
You have to watch this movie.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
It is so good and so dark and interesting ways
And I remember watching it and just I want to
see it again now that we're talking about it. But
I remember being like, oh, yeah, this is kind of
a missed masterpiece.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
It's it's like really funny and interesting.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
And Ben Stiller, he has this tradition of films that
are very like dark and edgy, and you know, like
the same with Cable Guy.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
And there are movies that they didn't reach.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Like a popular audience, but we look back on them
now and we're like, they were really kind of ahead
of their time in terms of their comedy and what
they were saying really interesting.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
Guys and Geeks team was also involved in it, and
you ended up being on Freaks and Geeks quite a bit. Sean, Yeah, okay,
it works.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Loved you.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
I loved that show and I wanted to be on
and they just didn't like I really wasn't a freak
and I really wasn't a geek. So really, what happened,
I don't know how much into the weeds you want
to get into, but what happened was at the time
and I was sort of doing a day player part
on there, and my manager advised me to quit the show.
(41:15):
Okay and one of the top shows of all time
people and so being at that age and you know,
paying somebody to give me advice, I took his advice
and I ended up quitting the show maybe after five
episodes or six episodes, probably just stuck it out.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
What do you think the where do you think that
advice came from? What do you think your manager was
trying to do?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Well?
Speaker 5 (41:47):
I mean I know where it came from because I
was making a lot of money doing like series regular
and I had just come off a series regular thing,
and then I was doing a day player part and
I remember him saying, how do you expect to ask
people to pay you blank amount if you're going to show.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Up for nothing enough? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
And so.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I took his advice.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
And you know, that's probably if I had any regrets
career wise, that was probably not a good decision because
I wanted to be on the show and I liked
those guys right.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
And it meant something.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
You know, I've made smaller projects myself, and you know,
when people who are with you and want to work
with you, it means a lot. And when they say
I don't want to be part of this, you remember that,
you know, yeah exactly. So I think it it might have,
you know, just affected my personal relationships with those guys.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
So what are you going to do.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
As a kid?
Speaker 7 (42:49):
You had such an old soul aura about you and
the characters that you played, very old school wise beyond
your years, comedy chops.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Where do you think that came from?
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
I mean, as I mentioned before, I had older brothers
and sisters, so I think I would, you know, mimic
them a lot. But also people used to tell me
that I reminded them of Jackie Gleason, I could see
that he happened to be one of the guys that
I started watching from a very young age.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
So I think most of my.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
Comedy, like the way in which it ended up manifesting,
was influenced mostly by watching I Love Lucy and by
watching Honeymooners. Yeah, so that stuff sort of has is
you know, has an older time games.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
It's like old timey comedy.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Exactly those rhythms, you know that that that cadence and
even some of the body movements. So maybe that's that's
where that came from me trying to emulate my heroes basically,
but I can see that.
Speaker 7 (43:59):
And then you on Boy Meets World, with your first
episode being season six, You're married, You're dead, And I
know you had done one episode of Charles in Charge
with Michael back in nineteen eighty eight, But did you
have to audition for this Boy Meets World role or
was I just offered to you?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
I don't think I did.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
I think what happened was I was looking for jobs
here and there, and somebody had had remembered that I
was friends with Michael somehow, and I think my manager
pitched me to him. Hey, do you have anything for
him on the show? And I think he was nice
enough to give me, you know that part. I mean,
(44:40):
I'm sure I had to come in and do something
and it's just handed to me, But I don't.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Remember it being like a typical audition.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Yeah, I mean, I probably just had to come in
and read for them, you know that that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Had you ever seen Boy Meets World before?
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Listen?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
And this is what's crazy, because I rewatched the episode
just yesterday and there's a lot of there's It's really
the theme in the show that my characters talking about
was really a very true to life thing for me,
because well, I just got to say, you guys, you know,
back then, it was like cool was the thing.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
It was all about being cool, right, and you guys as.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
A group were the coolest kids on the face.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Of the earth. It looked like it looked like.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
And also I remember I remember being having that feeling too.
When I got there. I was like, wait a second,
these kids aren't trying to be cool. They're being funny,
like you guys are working hard on comedy. And I
remember thinking about that too, him like, well, Will is
that cool? He's not trying to he's trying to be
a comedian and being cool. Kind of a but you
(46:04):
I mean, I mean I had such a boy crush
on Ryder and then getting in there to work with
you guys, it was just like I remember how special
and awesome it felt.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I mean, you want to talk about getting in with
the cool kids, I made it.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
We did not feel cool at it all ever, so strange.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
No god, no, wait a second.
Speaker 5 (46:30):
You mean to tell me you're on the cover of
Team Beat and that doesn't help feel make it feel cool.
Speaker 6 (46:36):
No, it was the opposite for me. It made me
feel like so insecure. Like you talk about getting recognized
and feeling proud and like happy that you I would
run away head down, like just trying. I was so
insecure and freaked out.
Speaker 7 (46:49):
Used to feel like a real actor. Sitcom acting wasn't
the real work he wanted to be doing.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
I felt trapped on a show that didn't makes sense
and it just didn't feel like me. I mean, in retrospect,
we were having fun, like we loved each other and
we were having fun on the set, But as far
as the work itself, like I was just like, this
is not my jam because I just never watched TV.
I didn't know what was going on, and it just
didn't feel like me. So I was incredibly insecure.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
But but we were always having fun on the show.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
So interesting, right, I gotta tell you, it's just the
way you might have been insecure, but it just came
off as I'm a movie star and I'm shy. That
is so interesting to hear you say that, and what
a trip. You know, things are so complicated right, totally.
And one of the things that, uh, that was noteworthy
(47:42):
for me last night was that, you know, were you
watching the episode like you and Ben were a comedy team,
but it seemed like Ben like he wanted you to
be the straight guy.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Am I right about that?
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Definitely? Definitely?
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Yeah, he is the star of the show, so he
was right.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
Well, no, it's you know, we've been watching the show
because like for me, when we're doing this rewatch podcast,
is me watching the show for the first time because
I never watched it and so going back, yeah, it's
it's it's interesting like in the first couple of seasons
that dynamic, like when when they found that that Ben
and I could play off of each other. It really
changed the show and it became sort of its own thing.
(48:22):
But now watching these later seasons, they're giving me less
and less to do, and I am becoming much more
just sort of the normal, boring, straight guy, and Ben's
becoming the like neurotic you know, and it's it's the
dynamic of shifting.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
I think the show worked better when we were more.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Of a duo.
Speaker 5 (48:39):
Do you think that was something that he like, you know,
talked to the writers about.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
I was just interested.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
I was like, I wonder if Ben said to them, like,
I want to be more you know, know.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
He could just brought it. He was just such a
funny guy in real life, and I think that he
had such a sense of humor that they that he
just kept ratcheting up this like sort of bizarre character,
this different version of Corey, and then they ran with
it because it really is funny, and you know, it
makes for it becomes the engine of the later seasons,
is like that he is this neurotic mess and that
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he isn't getting along in the world like that, as
opposed to where they started, which was that he was,
you know, more like a character you would play a
sort of smart alec, fast talking kid. That's how he
started on the show, but they quickly made it much
more where Ben wanted to go, which was like a
freaked out you know.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Go around me going yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
People.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
People forget that how funny Ben is to the point
where when I look back, I go, oh, that's right.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
He's literally one of the funniest people I've ever worked
with in my life. I mean, that's Ben is hysterically
funny on a camera.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
It got a little muddled in the middle seasons there
because I think they were trying to find what Corey
was going to be. But now that they've you know,
for lack of a better word, unleashed him in the
later seasons, he's just hysterically funny.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Oh well.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
Also, there's a lot of mouths to feed on that cast.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
You will you were like, bro, you were such a
good actor and so funny, like the work you did
in the in this episode where you're doing the whole
uh you know, the Truman Show character, like.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
That's the one you watched? Okay, because we were wondering
which one you watch, because we we did.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
The first one we did was your first episode You're
Married Poker.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
And I didn't see that. I didn't see that.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
It's probably better that you didn't. It's not our favorite episode.
You were great with what they gave you. You were
great and the you know, the nothing wrong with the acting.
The story was muddled and weird. But the Truman Show one.
These guys don't remember that at all, and I fully
remember that. I fully remember that episode, so I remember
how involved I was. But when I told them we
(50:45):
brought it up a couple episodes ago, I was like, oh, yeah,
the Truman Show episode.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
And they're like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Remember that season is it's later this season?
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Right? Yeah, it's later later six, season six.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
They just really did an excellent job. And I remember watching.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
You work on that, and you know there's there's a
scene where there's like maybe fifty extras, right, And I
remember watching you work on the scene that week, just
you know, finding the comedy beats and really you know,
working with the writers to get it down and then
on the tape day, like fifty.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Dudes show up.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
Yeah, and we have to act like they've been it
all the long time.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Right, of this a strange, a strange flip.
Speaker 4 (51:27):
To have happen. Man, that's hysterical.
Speaker 7 (51:41):
So you didn't watch the first episode that you did,
which is You're Marriage, You're Dead, and you play Louis
the Lackey to Gambling Dan, an actor who appeared to
be about twenty years older than you late fifties. What
do you remember about your first week on the show?
Speaker 2 (51:58):
What are what were your experiences?
Speaker 5 (51:59):
Like, I gotta be honest, and I remembered the feeling
as soon as the episode came on. I was really,
I don't know how to say, hormonal, hormonal, and the
chicks on that set, Danielle, I mean I was.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
I wouldn't you know.
Speaker 5 (52:15):
I was just when you came into the room.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
My chemistry would change. I know, I how to control myself, Danielle.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
And then the other girl, the redhead, I would just
look so basically the whole time anybody was around, I
was just like trying to keep it together and try
to keep it together, and I was losing.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
My mind by all like the hot.
Speaker 5 (52:40):
And then in the in that episode, were there I
want to say, there's somebody doing a lap dance kind of.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
And the girls are sitting on us, yes, ordering stuff.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
Yeah, So basically I'm just bursting at the seams, Danielle.
The whole time, being like, I gotta go to my
trailer for a minute.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Oh god, yeah, it was Pubert.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
I remember that show reminded me of puberty.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
Watching it, I was just like, holy man, it was
like madness, madness. But I do remember you guys being
very gracious and welcoming. It's kind of weird because you
guys have like your little family there, and then you know,
strangers come in and a lot of times, you know,
I've been a regular on shows and strangers come in
and they kind of act like they own the place,
(53:28):
and it's just like there's like weird dynamics that are involved.
But you guys were very sweet and friendly and welcoming,
and it makes a big difference, you know, when you
go on a show like that.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Well, I also remember that was the first time I'd
seen you in ten years, because I remember walking onto
the set and of course they don't tell us who's
coming on, and I saw you and I was like,
oh my god, you and I ran over gave each
other a big hogs like because.
Speaker 4 (53:52):
I hadn't seen you since that set in New York, right, So.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
Yeah, that was you know, here you are out here,
you are out in Los Angeles, you're famous on a
TV show and you do.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
You were you were the Mighty Ducks. Everything. It was
like we made it.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
The clim Yeah, well it's because we saved all that
drug dealer's money and flew out here.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
It worked like a charm.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
Yeah, it really felt very special, like.
Speaker 5 (54:22):
Really it was, you know, looking back on it, it was
really a magical experience.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
I hate to put it like that, but very nice.
Speaker 7 (54:31):
And so now on the other side of sobriety for you,
which we are all so proud of you for. By
the way, how much did the allure of Hollywood and
the situations we were all put in as kid actors
dealing with fame play into your ability to find that scene?
Speaker 5 (54:52):
Well, I mean really, when I look back on it,
my my my issues really sunk in when all of
that stuff went away. So I never really got into
like drugs or anything while I was working, and it
was when it was when I stopped working and I
(55:13):
basically walked away from.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Things thinking that I could just you know, roll back
in whenever.
Speaker 5 (55:20):
And so when the life of being in movies and television,
when that disappeared, I think boredom really became something that
was very hard for me to deal with. You know,
when there's a kid actor and you're working on stuff,
there's always something. There's a press tour or a screening
(55:41):
or something, and just the excitement of.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
Showing up to work on a sitcom it's very exciting.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
Right when that stuff went away, it definitely created an
enormous void that I had difficulty filling. That's definitely affected
me and definitely.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
Was a big deal.
Speaker 5 (56:04):
But maybe not in like the traditional way that people
might assume exactly.
Speaker 7 (56:10):
Yeah, it's actually it's not like Hollywood itself didn't lead you.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
There was the absence of that in your life.
Speaker 5 (56:17):
Because when I was getting into things like it was
becoming hip to sort of like the clean lifestyle was
taking over, like the cocaine party nights. So when I
came to Hollywood, everyone was doing their best to try
to be as healthy as possible.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
That's true, nobody really. I never really had adults really
give me anything, you know.
Speaker 7 (56:35):
So I know a lot of your struggles were documented
on the internet, including your mugshot and aspects of life
many people face, just not in public. Did it make
that entire situation harder for you to overcome? Knowing that
everything was being documented, even if you didn't want it
to be, Like, how did that play into your recovery?
Speaker 5 (56:56):
Honestly, I think in some ways it made it a
little easier, Daniel, because first of all, it made me
have to surrender earlier than I might have. Because when
you have, you know, stories about you on the news
and the narrative really isn'tcorrect, There's nothing I could do
about it from a jail cell. So I had to
decide to surrender early on, which ended up being a
(57:19):
major benefit in the twelve step program. Yeah, and then
also I was the benefit of a tremendous amount of
support from people, and that really made a difference to me.
I didn't know that these movies I was in were
meaningful to people. I got so many letters from people
(57:41):
telling me that they didn't want to go to school
because they were overweight and they felt a certain way.
But after seeing Heavyweights, that movie alone just made them
feel okay about being heavy and yeah, and so many
kids benefited from that. And so when I when I
started getting this kind of support from people and I
(58:01):
started doing better, it became a thing where I didn't
want to let anybody down, right, and that it really
helped me in my recovery because like early on I was,
I had ravaged myself so badly that I didn't have
a self to recover for, so I really started recovering
for everybody that was watching any.
Speaker 4 (58:22):
Sense, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
Well, it's it's so strange because it's it, but it
makes perfect sense because as somebody who was born and
grown to be an entertainer, you naturally look for an audience.
Speaker 4 (58:35):
And so that's just that's a very natural thing.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
Because as somebody who who is a natural entertainer like
you are, you want to please the audience watching you,
and in this case, you're doing it to make yourself healthy.
It's such an interesting dynamic of how that works as
an entertainer.
Speaker 4 (58:53):
It's so so strange.
Speaker 5 (58:54):
Yeah, that's really brilliant, Will, because I've never nobody's ever
put it to me like that, and but that's just
dead on.
Speaker 4 (59:02):
Maybe I thought that's amazing because that's how I feel too.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
I Mean, you always want to please that audience, and
using that as your key to getting healthy is just
such an interesting way to.
Speaker 4 (59:14):
Go at it. It's a great way to really take
advantage of that's really amazing. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (59:20):
It worked, you know, so it just worked luckily, you know, thankfully.
Speaker 7 (59:26):
Well, we know you have been doing some stand up,
you're jumping back into some projects. Does it feel good
to be able to return to the thing you grew
up doing?
Speaker 3 (59:36):
So good? So good? I mean, Will just said it
like that thing you know that you have inside to
want to be an entertainer.
Speaker 5 (59:44):
It never diesn't me at any rate. So being able
to go do my stand up and at the same
time deliver.
Speaker 3 (59:52):
A message, it is just it's the best. And you know, thankfully,
I'm having the time my life.
Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Even though forty five and things have happened, I'm in
the best place that I've been, So, you.
Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Know, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Well, unfortunately, you then, right when all this is happening,
you picked up and you moved to Georgia where nothing's
being shot.
Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Hollywood.
Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
Hollywood, get more work out there, for sure, oh man,
but it's not close out here.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
There's a lot of production.
Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
I have a couple things that I have that i'd
like to get off the route. One of them I'm
going to give you the elevator pitch. One of them
is about these signings that we do. These autograph conventions. Yeah,
I have an idea where the Mighty Ducks guys and
the Sandlot guys get, shall we say, by one of
(01:00:53):
these promoters and decide that they're going to go get
the one hundred thousand dollars cash that he has.
Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
In this safe in his hotel room.
Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
So with the sports team. Yes, it's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
It's a web pitch, Sean.
Speaker 7 (01:01:09):
Where can people find you? I know, are you're on cameo?
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Right?
Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
You cameos love? My cameo is directly tied to my
door dash, so.
Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Cameo. I love doing cameos.
Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
And just my Instagram is just my name at Instagram,
and I'm always you know, posting notices about my shows
or whatever I have going on.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
So that's the best way to keep in touch with.
Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
Me Instagram at s h A U n W E
I S S.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Sean.
Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
Thank you so much for being here with us, sharing
your memories and your energy and your optimism, and you're
you are an inspirational man and we are lucky that
you graced us with your time, So thank you.
Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
So I can't tell you what a pleasure it's been
getting up with you three and you guys all.
Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Look amazing or as beautiful as ever here.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I'm here too, Sean, We'll see you soon.
Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
B bye.
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Man, what a guy, what a story.
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
It's so strange to think about the journey, just just
all of life.
Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
I mean, the first time, literally, the first time I.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Stepped on a set that other than that one commercial
I did was with Sean and it was the two
of us.
Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
Leading the leaning commercial.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Yeah my lean acting, my lackting, but just to see
just the journey we've taken.
Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
And he's forty five. I'm almost fifty. We were he were.
Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
I mean I think I was twelve, so he was
nine when we did that thing.
Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
And it's just incredible comedic energy and he's still has
it and he's just such an open uh god, he
just he just shined.
Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
He was a born entertainer. He's a born entertainer.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
He was born to do this and he just he
found it and they found him, and it's just it's
one of those things where you look at somebody you.
Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Go, oh, yeah, that's why you're here. You're supposed to
be entertaining.
Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
Yeah No, there's no surprise that you You've always had it,
you still have it, yep.
Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
So great, well, thank you all for joining us for
this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can
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It is freezing in this river. Merch.
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H I don't see you guys for a week now,
(00:21):
and there's a there's a a Danielle and Ryder's eye
hole in my I.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Know right, I've missed you. Howf you goes been? What
did you?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Did?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You cry every day without me? Okay? No, no, no, okay?
But what have you been up to? H? Sweet? Sweet?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, I've been podcast walk his dog, my dog.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
He's had conversations with his wife where the asked me
to do I talk my wife a lot?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
No, We're we're currently taking multiple bids for some serious
construction at our house, so we're getting ready for craziness.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
How'd the closet reno go?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's awesome?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So it's like, you know, we've got this big, big, huge,
walking kind of kind of situation.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You get to go shopping for what?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh god, No, it's just the clothes that I do
have now aren't in a giant pile on the floor.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's the same clothes from Boybys World, like something for me.
I stick with them.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
The I got rid of them when they literally no
no longer hold the shape of clothing.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
That's when I get rid of them.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
All right, that's when it's too much? Yeah, right, or
what have you been up to?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Oh my god, I don't know. We went to nineties cons.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
It was really good. It was really it was actually
like a different crew. There was like the Scream people
and some nine o two one oho folks. Uh yeah,
I'd never met I mean I'd met Brian Austin Green,
but I never really talked to him, and he's like
a great guy, and so Leigh Moonfry, who I hadn't
seen for years.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It was great.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
It was such a good time, Like it was actually
not not expected. I was like, oh, we're doing nineties
con again, it's gonna at this at the point it's
going to be winding down and not a big deal.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And instead the.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Crowd was huge.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It was great.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
It's like, wow, people really want time travel.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, we ave the nineties. It's so weird, Like it
was a lot of fun. It was. It was a
lot of fun, huge crowds. Like yeah, writer said.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
The thing that was weird about this year was we
were on the floor so much that I almost didn't
see anybody else, Like it was never in the green room.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
With everybody where we normally hang out and kind of talk.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So yeah, my dad was there and oh, Okay, first
of all because of the podcast, so tons of people
coming up talking about the podcast like how much they
loved it. And my dad was there and people were going,
is that the captain? Can I take a picture with
the captain? So my dad was taking pictures with people.
(02:44):
But he was so happy sitting there taking pictures and
people were calling the captain.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
He loved it. So my flight home I was a
complete disaster, wasn't.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
We got on one plane, had to get off and
you know, get on another plane, change whatever, Like I
did all the things wrong. Will, like I know you
always go like to work flight and that's why you
were flying out a box, right, Okay, So I didn't
get home till like four in the morning.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It was a nightmare, except it was me and the
Lawrence brothers. Yeah, the best time. It was somebody like
I haven't.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Talked to Joe like forever, like since we were teenagers basically,
and for whatever reason, the three of us just bonded
and were laughing and telling stories and I.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Was like, oh, I'm the fourth Lawrence brother I felt.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
So it was like, it's okay, it's at an airport
where like having a tran and yet every and what
the best part is like people would recognize one of
us and not the others, so they'd be like they'd
come up to me and be like hey, in the
hand of the camera to Matt and be like take
a picture, or they just recognized Joe and hand camera
to me, but like can you take a bit?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
And we're like what that was? Like, yeah, so was
this in force? It was this in Bradley. Were you
at the airport in Hartford? Is this week? Then we
got stuck in Dallas, So we were stuck in Dallas
for it worth for like you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Know, three hours or whatever.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
But I'm telling you, like, I you know, I've obviously
seen Matt a bunch, but I haven't hung out with
Andy and Joey and like they're great, you know. And
also just like talking to Joey about being a dad,
like it's a very different like we just haven't caught
up and it was so fun and I yeah, I
just I love those guys and like, yeah, they're genuinely
friendly to everybody around them, Like they don't stop, like
(04:24):
they just are like and it's so fun to be
part of that bubble as you're like going through airports
and like running into people because everybody loves them and
they're so.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Kind to everybody. Yes, it was really fun. It was
really good time.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
I'm glad you guys had a good time. I'm sad
that I missed it. I was directing. I was doing
the other thing that I love. I was directing a
TV show for Disney Channel called How We Became the
Biggest Band. It was so much fun. But I did
miss you guys. I had a little bit of fomo.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You guys did a fun panel.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
At nineties Cone, right, it was like a ninetyggh was.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
That it was good. It was good.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It was one of those things so where it was
you know, I prefer personally panels where you just kind
of you talk for five minutes and you open it
up to questions.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, and we did the opposite.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
We spoke for forty minutes and then we had five
minutes left for questions.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
We got two questions in and we went. But you know,
it's fun.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You're we're on the panel and it's myself and Rider
and Solet and Juliel.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
Fun.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But it was it was just kind of fun to
be with everybody and talk about different experiences, and it
was it was a really fun weekend and it's you know,
I get to go home that Mike exactly claim in Hartford,
So it's a great place.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Nice, Danielle. Did you get to do like, are there
musical insequences in the I.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Got to shoot a whole music video?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Cool?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It was so much fun. It was truly so incredible.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
So the first week I was there, I was a
little like gobsmacked by how fast it moves, because it
moves real.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Fast, as in so fast.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
You only have two hours of rehearsal on the first day,
and you do a producer's run through on the first
day with two hours as wow, because they for three days,
so they shoot Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So Monday morning, no audience.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Monday morning you do a production meeting, a table read,
then the kids go to school and then you start
rehearsal at noon and you do rehearsal until two and
then you do a two thirty pm.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Run through and ea, oh my god.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
And then on day two you do a network run
through and that day you only have three hours of rehearsal.
So if the script doesn't change much between Monday and Tuesday,
three hours on Tuesday you're like, what are we gonna
do with all this time?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Because does it changed?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
There's a script kind of lockdown.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Well, my first week it didn't, So I came in
like Rare and I saw my first day, I was
like everyone had warm me, like the show moves really fast.
And then on my first day I was like I
was not prepared. So then the next day I came
in like Rare in Togo and we ended up feeling
like we had so much time because the script didn't
change much. But then my second week, the script changed
a lot, so much so that we didn't do.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
A producer run through on Monday.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
So we did a combo producer network run through on
Tuesday with a brand new script with only three hours
of rehearse.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
God, you're shooting the next day, no.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Closers run through because the table read, they were like,
we're just going to be working on We're just.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
Going to be working all day and there's no point
in putting something on its feet that that we know
is probably going to change. So we had you know
so so and then you're shooting the next day. It's like, okay,
you're shooting.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I'm getting adjutve you just explaining what's happening, like I'm
imagining the change, so I get oh geez.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And so there are they new songs, like they have
original songs.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
All the originals, and.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
They've recorded them ahead of the week, and then.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
You like, shoot yes, And they also have to learn choreography,
like that's how much time I have for rehearsal and
they're learning choreography in that time.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Like, can we give the girls twenty minutes to go
learn for full dance? Numbord's like yes, I think we
can do that. We have no we have no other choice.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
These kids are working so hardly.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They are working their butts off.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
But let me tell you the only reason that schedule
is at all able to work is because they are
so gosh darn talented and they are on their lines
and they are taking risks and having fun and it's
just beautiful. Like on my third week, because then you know,
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my third week, I'm like, I'm in it. I know
exactly what we're doing. Everybody's in a nice groove. And
one of the girls put on a performance for us.
She had to play this totally different character and she
just came out and she had so much confidence.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And just nailed it, nailed everything.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
It's a big set, lots of crazy blocking where she's
really vamping it up as this totally out of the
box character.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And I literally cried. I literally I cried. I cried
watching it.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
I was like, I'm so proud of them. I'm so
proud of them, Like what they are doing is amazing,
and it was just incredible.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Weeks is the show about like a girl group? Are they?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Is it one of those things where it's almost like
The Monkeys, where it's like they do it's a show,
but then they also are a band that's together.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Is that thing?
Speaker 7 (09:06):
It's a show called How We Became the Biggest Band,
and it takes place in two time settings, a current
day which is the future, where they're already the biggest
band and they're eighteen years old and they're telling you
how we got here. Most of the show then takes
place in flashbacks showing you how they met correct, okay,
how I met your mother?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
With a with a with a band?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
All the same cast or are there an adult version
and a younger.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
The same cast, which is one of the reasons why
it moves so fast.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
There is no B storyline. The B storyline is them in.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
The future show.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, there's no as of right now, there's no
adults on the show. It's just four core cast members
that are all miners, and so you're dealing with school schedules,
and you know, all of the they also are playing
instruments and like, you know, one of them is like
learning guitar, so she's in music class. Diane or In
is writing like half the songs. The music is incredible.
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It gets stuck in your head. We had to listen
to it dozens of times. I wasn't sick of any
of it, which is really saying something. It was just
really great.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It was really hardly it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Works because Disney does not is not really known for
their musicals, especially if that take place in high school.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, it's usually they don't do well.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
The old flops with Disney and musical those never work.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I mean, come on, Welcome to Pond Meets World. I'm
Daniel Fishal, I'm righter strong.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Ah oh if it, I'm sorry, audition, We're officially done.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
Damn it.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
It's been quite some time since the days of the
Death Chair, the rotating season one child guest star who
changed week to week but mostly pulled from the movie
The Sandlot, and though we became used to seeing a
familiar young face thrown into the mix, whether it's Marty
Yorke as a best friend, Arianna Richards in a very
special episode, or Andrew Keegan in Orlando, the show has
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since left the young stunt casting behind.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
To focus on us, the core cast of the show.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
So when we did have a new guest star firmly
set in our age bracket, especially one from a ton
of hit movies and TV shows, it was a big deal,
and this week's guest is a prime example. He rose
to fame as the comedic goalie in The Mighty Ducks,
Greg Goldberg, an iconic role he'd revisit for an entire franchise,
but it was another Disney movie he'd star in, Heavyweights.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That many of us hold nearest and.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Dearest to our hearts. A bit of a child prodigy
when it came to making people laugh, he began his
career in one of the coolest places ever, Pee Wee's Playhouse,
and he went on to appear on shows like Sabrina,
Freaks and Geeks, The King of Queen's and Yes, Boy
Meets World, where he played Louis a new college friend
that appeared in two season six episodes, and beyond the
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hilarious work he's done on screen, he has also become
an inspiration for those dealing with addiction, honest and open
about his own struggles, still using humor to cope and
connect with those online looking for motivation. So this week
on Podmets World, let's get into the flying V for
Sean Weiss.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Look at your beautiful background.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Is that gonna be okay? For the thing?
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You look great? Where are you?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Thank you? I'm in Georgia. I got to Georgia like
two months ago. I moved here. Wow.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Yeah, there are trees in Georgia.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Breathing fresh air is like I didn't even know.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I wasn't right I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Started, Yeah, it's you know, I was.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I was really kind of emotional, somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I was kind of emotional leaving la you know.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I just always pictured myself living there, and from the
moment I got there, I was in love with that place.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
So it was a little hard to go. But I
love it here. I's I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Good for you. Thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
It's so good to see you. Thank you so much
for doing this. We want to start with where it
all began for you. I know that you were an
East Coast kid. You were out of New Jersey. So
how did you convince your parents to start driving you
to the city for auditions.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Well, honestly, it was my it was my mom's idea, Okay,
but it wasn't like my mom got me into it
and forced me to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
She got me into it, and then once I started,
I mean I.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Was hooked with the whole process of going on auditions
and I got to skip school and stuff. Yeah, I
was a very precocious kid, and I had older step
brothers and stepsisters. They were in like years older, and
they would get me to do crazy things like walk
up to adults and give them the middle finger, you know,
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ask adults how their sex life is. When I was yeah,
I was walking around saying these things that adults had
made me say. And I guess I looked like I
was sharp, right, and they could in show business, So
it was you know, my mom took me to see
a manager at one of these cattle calls and she
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just liked me, and very instantly I started doing commercials
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Wow, and I remember that.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I just remember that circuit because we were on the
same circuit back in the day. He was always seeing
each other at auditions and you're just you're always with
the same twenty five kids everywhere you go.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, you were one of the guys I used to
see all the time. And then we did that show together.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, True Blue.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Well True Blue. I had to explain it to my fiance.
I was like, it was kind of like a er
but there was.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
A truck invall.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
Yes, let's talk about that because we'll mentioned that you
guys worked together. He actually said you were like his
very first actor friend.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
My onset buddy, my first onset buddy.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, yeah, well you were. I think that was one
of my first like TV jobs me too.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It was my first ever TV show.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Dude. You were so nice. And here was the thing
we were.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
We shot this thing out on top of a cliff, yep,
and it was very dangerous, right and not freezing.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
It was cold. Yeah, it was ice cold.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
You couldn't feel your toes and if we moved in
the wrong direction, it was like.
Speaker 9 (15:35):
Exactly, hey, kids, you're fine, just walk up to the
edge of this cliff and it don't But we're going
to pay you to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So I remember that day.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Oddly enough, I remember that day better than I do
stuff that happened two weeks ago. But I remember you
were like very protective of me and very like really
helping me not fall off that cliff, and so I
got I found out kind of the guy you were
very early, and meeting up with you years later, you
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really never changed and I appreciated that well.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I you were my first onset friend. We had a blast.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I remember it being freezing cold, and then one scene
we have to cross a river and I hear splash
and I look behind me and you had fallen into
the river like all like up to your neck, and
they pulled pulled you out, and we're like trying. Everyone's
warming you up, and the putting in front of heaters,
and then after that like all right, great, get on
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the edge of the cliff, and it was just it
was and then they remember we shot. They they brought
us to that stage and they built the cave and
it was all this smoke they were pumping in and
all this peat.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I was just I would be blowing my nose for
weeks with just all this black coming out like it
was bad.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
This is New York in the eighties where they were like,
just do it, kid, just doing fine. They handed me
at one point, with no prep whatsoever, they handed me
a fully loaded AK forty seven.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Who were you guys playing?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Were you criminals this story? Did you remember?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
It was like the drug dealer that was after us
because we found his stash and stash so we found
was like an AK forty seven.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Oh so that's the thing is we find that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
We leave our school field trip at the Cloisters and
we go down. Robert Mitcham's son Chris Mitcham plays the
bad guy, and we find this cave and I find
an AK forty seven and I go hey, and I
spray the cave and there's a.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Huge cave in which blocks him off.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I then get beaten up and thrown off the cliff
by the drug dealer and still no, I'm like, I
fall like thirty feet down.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
They put makeup on me.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
My head's broken open all stuff, and so truck one,
which is what the show used to be called, shows up,
and it's all these really good looking actors. It's like
Grant Show from Melrose Place before he's on Melrose Place
and Ali Walker and all these people like repelling down
to get me and then they've got to go bury
dig him out of the cave.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
It was like it was intense, man.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It was.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Listen no stunt doubles anywhere for the first time seeing
a squid go off right next to my head and
be like, I probably shouldn't get too close to that thing.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Both of you were both such talented young comedians. So
despite whatever crazy circumstances, I bet this movie is incredible.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Want to watch it now?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, it's on It's on YouTube. It's an episode called
Caves True Blue.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Hell yeah, my evening entertainment.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
To write that down, it would be difficult to beat
you for best first job. You were a recurring character
on Pee Wee's Playhouse, So I mean you shared the
screen with the legendary Paul Rubins. You probably sat on
cherry right.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, I get to do that.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
So what I mean it must have been like a
dream like experience. What are some of the most unreal
stories from set?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
It was. I mean, they really did a good job
to create like a very fun, uh kid like atmosphere
for us when we were on set, and I remember
talking to, uh, the genie Phil Hartman.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Oh my god, wasn't that Phil?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Oh my god? Was that Phil Hartman?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
That was Phil Hartman?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Was the original genie on on Pee's Playhouse.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I'm almost I don't know if that was the guy.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I mean, I have to check down now, I have
to check because that was Phil Hartman. Then I've got
some crazy Phil Hartman memories. But what I mean, I
remember just seeing the movie Pee's Big Adventure.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Movie at that age, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Who was it, John Peck.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
John Paragot came so Phil did it like first, and
then that guy came in.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And did like.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
But anyway, I saw Peey's Big Adventure and found out
I had an audition for this show. And I'm not
sure that I really understood the difference between like real.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Life and movies.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
So going on to.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Pee Wee's, going on to the set there, it was
really mind blowing. But what I do remember is I
fell in love with like the trick of movie making.
When I found out there was a guy sitting inside Cherry,
I was like.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Oh, this is so cool, and I really I really.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Got enamored with that whole thing of like you know,
making a camera tricks, you know what I mean, definitely
one of the aspects that also you know, made me
fall in love with the whole movie making things.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
So that was that was a crazy experience.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
One another memory that stands out one hundred percent is
uh Laurence fishburn Lawrence Fishburne.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Used to show us his tongue.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
And he had some kind of crazy thing where his
tongue it looks like a lizard of what It's a
big triangle with like wedges, and we were.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Thinking of that.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
He'd be like, check this out, and he'd go and
the thing would come out to hear and wave around.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Definitely something never party trick was not on my card today.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Okay, okay, stuck out for sure. If I ever meet him,
you see him and I haven't seen him since, but
if I ever see him again.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
He'd be like, I have a memory. I'm going to
need to make sure correct.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That I didn't just dream this.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That's the thing too, what of my mind's just playing tricks.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
On me and has a totally normal tongue.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I have a question was was there did did Paul
Rubens break character.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
On the set or was he always Peek. He was
always pee Wee, right, he was.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Always Peee, but a very quick story to kind of
give you an idea of the kind of guy he was.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
So I got the audition and it's it's.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Tomorrow, and I stayed up all night memorizing my five lines,
and I'm gonna do a scene with pee.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Wee the next day.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
My mom schleps me into New York, like a three
hour trip, and there's all the waiting, and you know,
it's five hours before I'm in a room with the guy,
and mind Joe only sticks. So I get into the
room and uh, Paul there, but he's not in character.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
He's just Paul Rubens and he's got a beard and.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
He has glasses, and I just I didn't believe it
was him. And so they kept telling me that's Paul,
and I'm like, listen, I know him only six right, I.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Know pee Wee. When I see pee Wee, that ain't
pee Wee.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
And so I gave them such a hard time because
I was this kind of kid, you know. And so
Paul left the room for about half hour however.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Long, and transformed himself into Pewee.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Everything costume and came back into the room as Peeley
so that I could the audition, and I told him,
I said, Peeley, I just got to let you know
before you got here, there was some guy and he's
telling everybody that he was you.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
And Paul said, yeah, that was Paul. He does that
to everybody.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Oh my god, Yeah he says that to people.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
That's oh God, make me feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I love that story.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
He's a real sweetheart.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You just, Daniel, You didn't even realize what you just did.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
What you just did the peewee tagline.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I love that story.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I love that's just straight upline.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
So then John, were you coming out out to l
A for pilot season? And then if you did come
out to l A, were you staying at the oak Woods?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I did do an oak Wood.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, of course he was.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
That was all in New York.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
A couple of years later I came out and did
the full l A pilot season at the oak Woods.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
I think I might have come out maybe three maybe
three different times, three different occasions, all oak Woods.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Maybe. Were you got oak Woods kids too?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Of course?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Where?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, yes, of course you're just from California day.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yeah, we were from here, so we we had we
lived here. I've lived here my whole life.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I got so Will and Ryder.
Speaker 10 (25:21):
Oh yeah, nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety two, and nineteen
ninety three because it was the first season A Boy.
I was still at the Oapens living there for the
first season The Boy's World.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, ninety three, ninety four, So.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
You got boy out of while you were living in yep,
while I was rollerblading around the oak Woods.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Man, I was in the Z building my first year
than the M building. Yeah, it's so quick.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I don't think it's the oak Woods anymore.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It's not. And there's no pilot season, so I went, now,
it's just DIVORCEMN. So yeah, it's strained.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I knew. I knew the tennis coach at the oak Woods.
You know people that don't know. It's like a little
city within a city, right, Yeah, And I knew the
tennis coach and his main hustle was he would give
free tennis lessons and he was friends with all of
the hot child actors. When oak Wood ride up, I'm
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sure his you know, personal life did too.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Funny.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
So after Pee Wee's Playhouse.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
You go into an arc on Webster, which is another
slightly hallucinatory show. You played Herbert. What was your character.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
I think that was just you know, Webster had like
a group of friends, and I was one of them
and the other one was Miambiolic.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Oh wow, Yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Was me and Mim and all of the episodes that
we were on, We're on a handful, we were kind
of recurring and it was always me and her going
on together.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Similarly to p Emmanuel Lewis as Webster is like a
real larger than life character to young jen xers.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
What was it like to work with him?
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I was like obsessed with the manual because I was
a Michael Jackson fan and he used to go around
with Michael all the time. Michael he would either bring
an Emmanuel of the monkey bubbles.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Bubbles.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't know how he would pick.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
But it was a little odd because he was like
an adult. So when we got on the show, like
he wasn't the age he was playing. I guess he
was playing eleven, but he was probably eighteen or nineteen
right older.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
So he was very cool, but he didn't We didn't
really spend a lot of time together because of.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
That, because he was an adult.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
But he was very nice and we still keep in touch.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
On that's great.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Thanks God for Instagram. You know you can just drop anyone, Aline.
I know it's it's a little annoying.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
As like from the celebrity standpoint, because you know, used
to be had to write somebody a fan mail and
you could ignore them.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You can't do that anymore. You got to answer.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
Just before what would end up being your big break,
you did an episode of The Cosby Show, completing a
very surreal trilogy of first gigs. It is the biggest
sitcom in the universe at the time.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That job couldn't have been easy. What was that like?
Speaker 5 (28:34):
It was like, you want to talk about an energy
pulsating that's tangible going on that set.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
It was like being in a part of something that.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Was like alive and taking and such a beautiful energy
there in New York. And the first day I went
for my audition, I ran into Adam Sandler because he
was on the show too, and I guess he was
at the production office for some but I had a
whole chat with Adam and got to be friends with
him and didn't even know it was Adam Sandler. Yeah,
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so we Adam and I go back to you know
whatever year that was, was that like nineteen eighty seven?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yes, what crazy?
Speaker 7 (29:15):
Okay, So let's get into Mighty Ducks. So then Mighty
Ducks comes along and you would play the iconic Goldberg.
What was that audition like, did you have any hockey experience?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
I had no hockey experience, but the character when I
got the part, wasn't for a character named Goldberg, who
was originally written to be a kid named a Tuk.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
And you only had one line in the whole movie.
I'm the Tuk, the goalie.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
So when we got to training camp, I think the
producers and you know they the writers, they got to
know us a little better, and I suppose they figured
with my big mouth, I'd be better suited, you know,
making more remarks.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah, with that dialogue.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
When I get the part, it was just the one line,
and it took us over six months of auditioning, and
I must have been back five or six times.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
And you guys know how it is.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
You go in the room and they weren't giving me,
giving me any notes or anything. So I was just
going in the room and doing that, I took the
goalie every time.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Oh my gosh, wait, they brought you back that many
times for just that one line.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
That one line.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
They were probably doing like tons of mix and match
sessions and they were like, which which group of kids
looks the best on camera?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, when I think back, that had had to do
what it was.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Oh, so you're thrown into a hockey team, albeit it's
a fictional one, but you're filming in Minnesota together.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Did you guys have bonding.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
Exercises and all start to have that like real team connection?
Speaker 5 (30:54):
And I would say our bonding exercise was training camp
because before the movie.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
They had to teach us liars who told them we
knew how to play, And we did a camp, a
training camp that was legit right.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
It was you know, eight in the morning till three
every day and I think it was three months.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So where did you Where were you staying?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
They put us off at like the fattest condominium situation
you could ask for.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
It was nice working.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
It was my first like film, and it was awesome
to do it for a big company like Disney.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I thought that now they would all.
Speaker 11 (31:35):
Be yeah, yeah exactly, so yeah, we definitely so Not
only did we have training camp, but we also did
recreational stuff together.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
They would put us all in the duck bus and
like take us to a movie or land. So we
definitely I don't know about I can't speak for the
other guys, but I definitely felt like I was really
part of a team, and I think that really showed in.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
The in the film.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I think that's what, you know, people can relate to that.
That feeling kind of probably comes off screen.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Do you love seeing people in Goldberg jerseys now so
many years later?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
It never gets old? Danielle ye Old, Yeah, no, it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Did Emilio Estevez feel like your coach.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Milo, That's a really good question.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
I don't know if he felt like a coach To me,
he always just felt like a movie star, Okay, yeah, yeah,
because Amelio was a movie star at that time, and
you know, he didn't he wasn't. It wasn't you know,
his personality wasn't affected in that way. But he definitely
had movie star energy.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, he had that presence.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So when he was around, you know, I was always
just kind of starstruck. I'll be honest with you, But
he could not have been like any cooler or any
you know, more down to earth and just an awesome
guy to work with. He would do a couple of
times he would rent out a movie theater and just.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Have us all go to watch some movie together.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
He had a one come out called Judgment Night, and
he took us to see that one.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I like that as a team.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's really cool. That's very cool.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
So after Mighty Ducks comes out, you become very recognizable.
How does life change for you after that movie comes out?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I guess when you mentioned I guess it did change
a little bit. I mean it was kind of.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
A gradual thing because I was doing TV and I
was getting recognized for stuff. But definitely getting recognized in public.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Was something to get used to. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I always it never bothered me in the way I
see you know. I guess there are certain times where
you know you're having dinner or something and it's.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
A little weird. Yeah, but I always enjoyed.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Just I felt like it was a complement of the work.
And I never really took personal credit for how successful
The Mighty Ducks was, and I just figured that I
was a part of something that was really successful, and
I was very proud of it.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I guess you'd say, yeah, so great, so healthy.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
A shoot was that I didn't get I didn't start
the problem with me didn't start till later.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
It was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
How long a shoot was Mighty Ducks? Uh?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Well so two months of camp and then maybe ninety
days of a shoot.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay, so like full five months and then you shown
for D two?
Speaker 7 (34:47):
How long how long after the first one came out
did you guys go back for D two?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I want to say less than a year?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Oh wow?
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
So he likes to pump them out if they if
they know they have a hit, it's like, let's do
the next one.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I think they got the I did have the hockey
team and they were like, all right, let's let's do well.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah, because it's I mean, is this the first time Ryder?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You're good with all this this Hollywood stuff, but I mean,
is this the first time a fictional sporting team literally
then became a professional sporting team.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
I think so.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
I remember the Mighty Ducks stadium and the tea and
it was just like, this is crazy that Disney's going
this big and making this a thing.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Like yeah, it was also it's illegal.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I started buying up the world.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
But I remember that because I went to a Mighty
Ducks game and I wore my Whaler's jersey, and literally
the next day in my dressing room there was a
Mighty Ducks jersey with a note from somebody at Disney
was like, saw you at the game last night.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
If you go again, please wear this. I remember, And
it was like.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I was like, Okay, I guess sorry for Disney.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Did that happen after the show is on the air
that Disney and ab she became Buddy.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
Yeah, it was like ninety six ninety seven, so it
was in the middle of our run answering. Yeah, yeah,
So I want to talk Heavyweights. It's one of the
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darker Disney comedies ever made, written by jud Appatoo, follows
a group of kids sent to a weight loss camp
run by maybe one of the funniest and most psychotic performances.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Ever heard with Ben Stiller.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
Stiller is Tony Purkis. How do you not break in
every scene with him?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Dude? That is a great question.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
It's the only time I've ever had an issue with
that in my entire career, which was not a thing
for me. Right but have a straight face. When Ben
was doing that thing like this close to you was difficult,
was difficult, and I can be honest, like Ben wasn't
trying to be funny, right, he was very intense and
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very like scary. It was definitely a little scary. I
think he wanted to have that effect on us, and
I'm pretty sure it worked on everywhere.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
I mean definitely how much of it was improv versus
actually scripted.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
I want to say almost everything he said was his
own off the cuff stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I mean they might have like.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Arranged it a little before the tape, you know, but
so much it was all, you know, And I think
that was it was like that for all of us
and where we had the freedom if we wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Off the books, and that was just amazing, you know,
to have that setup.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
And I think that's kind of where Judd began to
develop that style of his you know, let's comedians sort
of writ So yeah, definitely we were allowed.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
To do that.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
And it was weird because on The Mighty Ducks the
directors we had were also very encouraging when it came
to improvise, not improvising at living because we had a
lot of scenes where it was like, you know, the
ducks make their way to the limo, or the ducks
make their way to the bench. You know, there's shots
of a lot of us moving somewhere, and always they
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were always open to us picturing the lines.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, so I love that.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Yeah, And I thought that's how it would be all
the time, and you know, not so much. You know,
I started working on sitcoms and stuff, and you can't
show up on Boy World and be like, I'd like
to say this right now, can we try it?
Speaker 4 (38:43):
My way?
Speaker 7 (38:47):
Was Ben able to turn it off between the scenes,
like was he laughing joking with you guys, or was
he pretty much in character?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Ben was sitting character.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
He really did, and I think you know, the way
he did that was by separation, and he was he
wasn't lax about it.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
It was like cut, I'll be over here.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
And he was very deliberate in not establishing friendly relationships
with us.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Right friend on this movie.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
I don't know if if that, you know, worked for
him because he didn't like kids or fat kids or what.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
But he definitely made.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
A choice to do that and I think it worked.
But on the last day of production, Uh, you know,
we were out there three months and I walked up
to him and I said, Ben, like I went to
shake his hand. I said, this has been just the
magical experience learning from you and observing for you, and
I just want to thank you for an incredible shoot.
And he shook my hand and said, you're welcome, and
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what's your name again?
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Oh my gosh, was he even serious?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I don't know. Wow.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Movie is like a cult classic because it didn't really
hit at the time. But I remember, like ten years later,
like I guess in the early aughts, having a friend
be like, you haven't seen Heavyweights.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
You have to watch this movie.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
It is so good and so dark and interesting ways
And I remember watching it and just I want to
see it again now that we're talking about it. But
I remember being like, oh, yeah, this is kind of
a missed masterpiece.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
It's it's like really funny and interesting.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
And Ben Stiller, he has this tradition of films that
are very like dark and edgy, and you know, like
the same with Cable Guy.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
And there are movies that they didn't reach.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Like a popular audience, but we look back on them
now and we're like, they were really kind of ahead
of their time in terms of their comedy and what
they were saying really interesting.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
Guys and Geeks team was also involved in it, and
you ended up being on Freaks and Geeks quite a bit. Sean, Yeah, okay,
it works.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Loved you.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
I loved that show and I wanted to be on
and they just didn't like I really wasn't a freak
and I really wasn't a geek. So really, what happened,
I don't know how much into the weeds you want
to get into, but what happened was at the time
and I was sort of doing a day player part
on there, and my manager advised me to quit the show.
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Okay and one of the top shows of all time
people and so being at that age and you know,
paying somebody to give me advice, I took his advice
and I ended up quitting the show maybe after five
episodes or six episodes, probably just stuck it out.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
What do you think the where do you think that
advice came from? What do you think your manager was
trying to do?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Well?
Speaker 5 (41:47):
I mean I know where it came from because I
was making a lot of money doing like series regular
and I had just come off a series regular thing,
and then I was doing a day player part and
I remember him saying, how do you expect to ask
people to pay you blank amount if you're going to show.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Up for nothing enough? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
And so.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I took his advice.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
And you know, that's probably if I had any regrets
career wise, that was probably not a good decision because
I wanted to be on the show and I liked
those guys right.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
And it meant something.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
You know, I've made smaller projects myself, and you know,
when people who are with you and want to work
with you, it means a lot. And when they say
I don't want to be part of this, you remember that,
you know, yeah exactly. So I think it it might have,
you know, just affected my personal relationships with those guys.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
So what are you going to do.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
As a kid?
Speaker 7 (42:49):
You had such an old soul aura about you and
the characters that you played, very old school wise beyond
your years, comedy chops.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Where do you think that came from?
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
I mean, as I mentioned before, I had older brothers
and sisters, so I think I would, you know, mimic
them a lot. But also people used to tell me
that I reminded them of Jackie Gleason, I could see
that he happened to be one of the guys that
I started watching from a very young age.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
So I think most of my.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
Comedy, like the way in which it ended up manifesting,
was influenced mostly by watching I Love Lucy and by
watching Honeymooners. Yeah, so that stuff sort of has is
you know, has an older time games.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
It's like old timey comedy.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Exactly those rhythms, you know that that that cadence and
even some of the body movements. So maybe that's that's
where that came from me trying to emulate my heroes basically,
but I can see that.
Speaker 7 (43:59):
And then you on Boy Meets World, with your first
episode being season six, You're married, You're dead, And I
know you had done one episode of Charles in Charge
with Michael back in nineteen eighty eight, But did you
have to audition for this Boy Meets World role or
was I just offered to you?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
I don't think I did.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
I think what happened was I was looking for jobs
here and there, and somebody had had remembered that I
was friends with Michael somehow, and I think my manager
pitched me to him. Hey, do you have anything for
him on the show? And I think he was nice
enough to give me, you know that part. I mean,
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I'm sure I had to come in and do something
and it's just handed to me, But I don't.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Remember it being like a typical audition.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Yeah, I mean, I probably just had to come in
and read for them, you know that that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Had you ever seen Boy Meets World before?
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Listen?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
And this is what's crazy, because I rewatched the episode
just yesterday and there's a lot of there's It's really
the theme in the show that my characters talking about
was really a very true to life thing for me,
because well, I just got to say, you guys, you know,
back then, it was like cool was the thing.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
It was all about being cool, right, and you guys as.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
A group were the coolest kids on the face.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Of the earth. It looked like it looked like.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
And also I remember I remember being having that feeling too.
When I got there. I was like, wait a second,
these kids aren't trying to be cool. They're being funny,
like you guys are working hard on comedy. And I
remember thinking about that too, him like, well, Will is
that cool? He's not trying to he's trying to be
a comedian and being cool. Kind of a but you
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I mean, I mean I had such a boy crush
on Ryder and then getting in there to work with
you guys, it was just like I remember how special
and awesome it felt.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I mean, you want to talk about getting in with
the cool kids, I made it.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
We did not feel cool at it all ever, so strange.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
No god, no, wait a second.
Speaker 5 (46:30):
You mean to tell me you're on the cover of
Team Beat and that doesn't help feel make it feel cool.
Speaker 6 (46:36):
No, it was the opposite for me. It made me
feel like so insecure. Like you talk about getting recognized
and feeling proud and like happy that you I would
run away head down, like just trying. I was so
insecure and freaked out.
Speaker 7 (46:49):
Used to feel like a real actor. Sitcom acting wasn't
the real work he wanted to be doing.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
I felt trapped on a show that didn't makes sense
and it just didn't feel like me. I mean, in retrospect,
we were having fun, like we loved each other and
we were having fun on the set, But as far
as the work itself, like I was just like, this
is not my jam because I just never watched TV.
I didn't know what was going on, and it just
didn't feel like me. So I was incredibly insecure.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
But but we were always having fun on the show.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
So interesting, right, I gotta tell you, it's just the
way you might have been insecure, but it just came
off as I'm a movie star and I'm shy. That
is so interesting to hear you say that, and what
a trip. You know, things are so complicated right, totally.
And one of the things that, uh, that was noteworthy
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for me last night was that, you know, were you
watching the episode like you and Ben were a comedy team,
but it seemed like Ben like he wanted you to
be the straight guy.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Am I right about that?
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Definitely? Definitely?
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Yeah, he is the star of the show, so he
was right.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
Well, no, it's you know, we've been watching the show
because like for me, when we're doing this rewatch podcast,
is me watching the show for the first time because
I never watched it and so going back, yeah, it's
it's it's interesting like in the first couple of seasons
that dynamic, like when when they found that that Ben
and I could play off of each other. It really
changed the show and it became sort of its own thing.
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But now watching these later seasons, they're giving me less
and less to do, and I am becoming much more
just sort of the normal, boring, straight guy, and Ben's
becoming the like neurotic you know, and it's it's the
dynamic of shifting.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
I think the show worked better when we were more.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Of a duo.
Speaker 5 (48:39):
Do you think that was something that he like, you know,
talked to the writers about.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
I was just interested.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
I was like, I wonder if Ben said to them, like,
I want to be more you know, know.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
He could just brought it. He was just such a
funny guy in real life, and I think that he
had such a sense of humor that they that he
just kept ratcheting up this like sort of bizarre character,
this different version of Corey, and then they ran with
it because it really is funny, and you know, it
makes for it becomes the engine of the later seasons,
is like that he is this neurotic mess and that
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he isn't getting along in the world like that, as
opposed to where they started, which was that he was,
you know, more like a character you would play a
sort of smart alec, fast talking kid. That's how he
started on the show, but they quickly made it much
more where Ben wanted to go, which was like a
freaked out you know.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Go around me going yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
People.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
People forget that how funny Ben is to the point
where when I look back, I go, oh, that's right.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
He's literally one of the funniest people I've ever worked
with in my life. I mean, that's Ben is hysterically
funny on a camera.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
It got a little muddled in the middle seasons there
because I think they were trying to find what Corey
was going to be. But now that they've you know,
for lack of a better word, unleashed him in the
later seasons, he's just hysterically funny.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Oh well.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
Also, there's a lot of mouths to feed on that cast.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
You will you were like, bro, you were such a
good actor and so funny, like the work you did
in the in this episode where you're doing the whole
uh you know, the Truman Show character, like.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
That's the one you watched? Okay, because we were wondering
which one you watch, because we we did.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
The first one we did was your first episode You're
Married Poker.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
And I didn't see that. I didn't see that.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
It's probably better that you didn't. It's not our favorite episode.
You were great with what they gave you. You were
great and the you know, the nothing wrong with the acting.
The story was muddled and weird. But the Truman Show one.
These guys don't remember that at all, and I fully
remember that. I fully remember that episode, so I remember
how involved I was. But when I told them we
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brought it up a couple episodes ago, I was like, oh, yeah,
the Truman Show episode.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
And they're like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Remember that season is it's later this season?
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Right? Yeah, it's later later six, season six.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
They just really did an excellent job. And I remember watching.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
You work on that, and you know there's there's a
scene where there's like maybe fifty extras, right, And I
remember watching you work on the scene that week, just
you know, finding the comedy beats and really you know,
working with the writers to get it down and then
on the tape day, like fifty.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Dudes show up.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
Yeah, and we have to act like they've been it
all the long time.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Right, of this a strange, a strange flip.
Speaker 4 (51:27):
To have happen. Man, that's hysterical.
Speaker 7 (51:41):
So you didn't watch the first episode that you did,
which is You're Marriage, You're Dead, and you play Louis
the Lackey to Gambling Dan, an actor who appeared to
be about twenty years older than you late fifties. What
do you remember about your first week on the show?
Speaker 2 (51:58):
What are what were your experiences?
Speaker 5 (51:59):
Like, I gotta be honest, and I remembered the feeling
as soon as the episode came on. I was really,
I don't know how to say, hormonal, hormonal, and the
chicks on that set, Danielle, I mean I was.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
I wouldn't you know.
Speaker 5 (52:15):
I was just when you came into the room.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
My chemistry would change. I know, I how to control myself, Danielle.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
And then the other girl, the redhead, I would just
look so basically the whole time anybody was around, I
was just like trying to keep it together and try
to keep it together, and I was losing.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
My mind by all like the hot.
Speaker 5 (52:40):
And then in the in that episode, were there I
want to say, there's somebody doing a lap dance kind of.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
And the girls are sitting on us, yes, ordering stuff.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
Yeah, So basically I'm just bursting at the seams, Danielle.
The whole time, being like, I gotta go to my
trailer for a minute.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Oh god, yeah, it was Pubert.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
I remember that show reminded me of puberty.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
Watching it, I was just like, holy man, it was
like madness, madness. But I do remember you guys being
very gracious and welcoming. It's kind of weird because you
guys have like your little family there, and then you know,
strangers come in and a lot of times, you know,
I've been a regular on shows and strangers come in
and they kind of act like they own the place,
(53:28):
and it's just like there's like weird dynamics that are involved.
But you guys were very sweet and friendly and welcoming,
and it makes a big difference, you know, when you
go on a show like that.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Well, I also remember that was the first time I'd
seen you in ten years, because I remember walking onto
the set and of course they don't tell us who's
coming on, and I saw you and I was like,
oh my god, you and I ran over gave each
other a big hogs like because.
Speaker 4 (53:52):
I hadn't seen you since that set in New York, right, So.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
Yeah, that was you know, here you are out here,
you are out in Los Angeles, you're famous on a
TV show and you do.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
You were you were the Mighty Ducks. Everything. It was
like we made it.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
The clim Yeah, well it's because we saved all that
drug dealer's money and flew out here.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
It worked like a charm.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
Yeah, it really felt very special, like.
Speaker 5 (54:22):
Really it was, you know, looking back on it, it was
really a magical experience.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
I hate to put it like that, but very nice.
Speaker 7 (54:31):
And so now on the other side of sobriety for you,
which we are all so proud of you for. By
the way, how much did the allure of Hollywood and
the situations we were all put in as kid actors
dealing with fame play into your ability to find that scene?
Speaker 5 (54:52):
Well, I mean really, when I look back on it,
my my my issues really sunk in when all of
that stuff went away. So I never really got into
like drugs or anything while I was working, and it
was when it was when I stopped working and I
(55:13):
basically walked away from.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Things thinking that I could just you know, roll back
in whenever.
Speaker 5 (55:20):
And so when the life of being in movies and television,
when that disappeared, I think boredom really became something that
was very hard for me to deal with. You know,
when there's a kid actor and you're working on stuff,
there's always something. There's a press tour or a screening
(55:41):
or something, and just the excitement of.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
Showing up to work on a sitcom it's very exciting.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
Right when that stuff went away, it definitely created an
enormous void that I had difficulty filling. That's definitely affected
me and definitely.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
Was a big deal.
Speaker 5 (56:04):
But maybe not in like the traditional way that people
might assume exactly.
Speaker 7 (56:10):
Yeah, it's actually it's not like Hollywood itself didn't lead you.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
There was the absence of that in your life.
Speaker 5 (56:17):
Because when I was getting into things like it was
becoming hip to sort of like the clean lifestyle was
taking over, like the cocaine party nights. So when I
came to Hollywood, everyone was doing their best to try
to be as healthy as possible.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
That's true, nobody really. I never really had adults really
give me anything, you know.
Speaker 7 (56:35):
So I know a lot of your struggles were documented
on the internet, including your mugshot and aspects of life
many people face, just not in public. Did it make
that entire situation harder for you to overcome? Knowing that
everything was being documented, even if you didn't want it
to be, Like, how did that play into your recovery?
Speaker 5 (56:56):
Honestly, I think in some ways it made it a
little easier, Daniel, because first of all, it made me
have to surrender earlier than I might have. Because when
you have, you know, stories about you on the news
and the narrative really isn'tcorrect, There's nothing I could do
about it from a jail cell. So I had to
decide to surrender early on, which ended up being a
(57:19):
major benefit in the twelve step program. Yeah, and then
also I was the benefit of a tremendous amount of
support from people, and that really made a difference to me.
I didn't know that these movies I was in were
meaningful to people. I got so many letters from people
(57:41):
telling me that they didn't want to go to school
because they were overweight and they felt a certain way.
But after seeing Heavyweights, that movie alone just made them
feel okay about being heavy and yeah, and so many
kids benefited from that. And so when I when I
started getting this kind of support from people and I
(58:01):
started doing better, it became a thing where I didn't
want to let anybody down, right, and that it really
helped me in my recovery because like early on I was,
I had ravaged myself so badly that I didn't have
a self to recover for, so I really started recovering
for everybody that was watching any.
Speaker 4 (58:22):
Sense, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
Well, it's it's so strange because it's it, but it
makes perfect sense because as somebody who was born and
grown to be an entertainer, you naturally look for an audience.
Speaker 4 (58:35):
And so that's just that's a very natural thing.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
Because as somebody who who is a natural entertainer like
you are, you want to please the audience watching you,
and in this case, you're doing it to make yourself healthy.
It's such an interesting dynamic of how that works as
an entertainer.
Speaker 4 (58:53):
It's so so strange.
Speaker 5 (58:54):
Yeah, that's really brilliant, Will, because I've never nobody's ever
put it to me like that, and but that's just
dead on.
Speaker 4 (59:02):
Maybe I thought that's amazing because that's how I feel too.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
I Mean, you always want to please that audience, and
using that as your key to getting healthy is just
such an interesting way to.
Speaker 4 (59:14):
Go at it. It's a great way to really take
advantage of that's really amazing. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (59:20):
It worked, you know, so it just worked luckily, you know, thankfully.
Speaker 7 (59:26):
Well, we know you have been doing some stand up,
you're jumping back into some projects. Does it feel good
to be able to return to the thing you grew
up doing?
Speaker 3 (59:36):
So good? So good? I mean, Will just said it
like that thing you know that you have inside to
want to be an entertainer.
Speaker 5 (59:44):
It never diesn't me at any rate. So being able
to go do my stand up and at the same
time deliver.
Speaker 3 (59:52):
A message, it is just it's the best. And you know, thankfully,
I'm having the time my life.
Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Even though forty five and things have happened, I'm in
the best place that I've been, So, you.
Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Know, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Well, unfortunately, you then, right when all this is happening,
you picked up and you moved to Georgia where nothing's
being shot.
Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Hollywood.
Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
Hollywood, get more work out there, for sure, oh man,
but it's not close out here.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
There's a lot of production.
Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
I have a couple things that I have that i'd
like to get off the route. One of them I'm
going to give you the elevator pitch. One of them
is about these signings that we do. These autograph conventions. Yeah,
I have an idea where the Mighty Ducks guys and
the Sandlot guys get, shall we say, by one of
(01:00:53):
these promoters and decide that they're going to go get
the one hundred thousand dollars cash that he has.
Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
In this safe in his hotel room.
Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
So with the sports team. Yes, it's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
It's a web pitch, Sean.
Speaker 7 (01:01:09):
Where can people find you? I know, are you're on cameo?
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Right?
Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
You cameos love? My cameo is directly tied to my
door dash, so.
Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Cameo. I love doing cameos.
Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
And just my Instagram is just my name at Instagram,
and I'm always you know, posting notices about my shows
or whatever I have going on.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
So that's the best way to keep in touch with.
Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
Me Instagram at s h A U n W E
I S S.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Sean.
Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
Thank you so much for being here with us, sharing
your memories and your energy and your optimism, and you're
you are an inspirational man and we are lucky that
you graced us with your time, So thank you.
Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
So I can't tell you what a pleasure it's been
getting up with you three and you guys all.
Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Look amazing or as beautiful as ever here.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I'm here too, Sean, We'll see you soon.
Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
B bye.
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Man, what a guy, what a story.
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
It's so strange to think about the journey, just just
all of life.
Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
I mean, the first time, literally, the first time I.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Stepped on a set that other than that one commercial
I did was with Sean and it was the two
of us.
Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
Leading the leaning commercial.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Yeah my lean acting, my lackting, but just to see
just the journey we've taken.
Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
And he's forty five. I'm almost fifty. We were he were.
Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
I mean I think I was twelve, so he was
nine when we did that thing.
Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
And it's just incredible comedic energy and he's still has
it and he's just such an open uh god, he
just he just shined.
Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
He was a born entertainer. He's a born entertainer.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
He was born to do this and he just he
found it and they found him, and it's just it's
one of those things where you look at somebody you.
Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Go, oh, yeah, that's why you're here. You're supposed to
be entertaining.
Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
Yeah No, there's no surprise that you You've always had it,
you still have it, yep.
Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
So great, well, thank you all for joining us for
this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can
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send us your emails pod Meets World Show at gmail
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Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
It is freezing in this river. Merch.
Speaker 7 (01:03:32):
That's for you, Shanie, pod Meets Worldshow dot com.
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
We love you all, pod dismissed.
Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
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