TGI – Episode 309 “The Last Temptation of Cory”

Sure, it's early in the Cory / Topanga relationship, but the gang is already concerned with some immediate red flags. 

Cory is insorceled by a classmate named Missy, now interested in forcefully kissing him against his will because he's taken by Topanga. So when he ends up at a faux party thrown to test his loyalty, he finds himself in deep trouble. But the big question: Did he do anything wrong? Will actually LIVED the story from this episode and tells the group how it all went down.
 
Brittany Murphy returns for her last BMW appearance, Bill Daniels is at his best and Will continues to tell everyone he was unlovable as a preteen.
 
All this and a RARE crossover with a DCOM classic “My Date with the President’s Daughter” on the new Pod Meets World...

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
So I had a realization and came to a conclusion. Recently,
we have been doing our amazing live shows and touring
the country, and we also do conventions, and at a
lot of these places, we step off the plane and
we make it to baggage claim, and at baggage claim

(00:40):
there will be what they call like autograph hounds. They're
waiting for us. They're people who have headshots of us
or Funko pops or whatever it is they have that
they want us to sign, and they have a bunch
of them, usually like no more than I mean no
less than like three at a time, sometimes as many
as ten, and they'll try to get you to sign
as many of them as you want. And unlike a

(01:02):
normal fan or someone who you know I run into
out on the street somewhere or at a restaurant or
at the airport just randomly, these are not people I'm
casually bumping into. These are people who have followed our schedule,
known when when about we are flying in, and have

(01:23):
done some sort of research to figure out which flight
we are on, which airline we are on. Because they
were stitchings which hotel we're staying it. Well, that's what
happened recently. I walked in to check into one of
our hotels and Will was with me, and the woman
behind the desk said, Hi, just wanted to let you
know some people were calling asking for you here, and

(01:45):
it was not a family member of mine. Everybody would have,
you know, checked in with me on my cell phone.
But so they call around to hotels to figure out
if they can get information with about where you're staying,
and then they wait for you there. In the past,
I have kind of begrudgingly and maybe not with the
most friendly of attitudes. I have signed those pictures for people.

(02:05):
I'll sometimes even come right out and say, like, how
did you know I was going to be on Delta?
Like that? It just feels a little weird.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It feels a little itchy, but it's also I think
there's also usually you can tell that that they're doing
it for money. It's like a job. They're going because
they like your work, right, it's about it.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
They aren't even kind to be honest most time.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Or even worse. I've had them be like I'm a
huge fan, and I'm like, are you because you have
like seventy photographs of me you've printed out along with
seventy other people, you know, like this is you're just okay,
it's a weird it's a weird interaction.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's a weird interaction. And I've normally done it, and
you know, truthfully, when we go for conventions, they actually
tell us not to do it because the conventions spend
quite a bit of money. It's flying us out there
to you know, sign autographs for people who are going
to the event, and that's how the convention makes money.
So if we're just signing things for people when they've
decided to stand outside the airport, it loses money. So

(03:00):
they asked us not to do it. I have in
the past done it before this last time when people
were in our hotel. It was at the they had
called around figured out which hotel we were staying in,
and then at the end of our live show, it
was after it was around midnight, I walked into the
lobby of the hotel and they were just sitting in
the lobby of the hotel. And because they were sitting
in the lobby of the hotel, I thought they were

(03:22):
not autograph seekers. I thought they must be people who
were staying at the hotel. And I walked in just
very relaxed, and then they jumped up and ripped out
autographs and I just I said no. I said, I'm sorry, no,
this feels very weird to me. They were like blocking
my entrance to the elevator to get to my room,
and I hit a point. I'm not going to do

(03:44):
it anymore. I'm going to say no, and I'm going
to flat out tell them why I'm saying no. The
fact that I have continued to sign them is encouraging
the behavior. They know if they wait for us outside
the airport, we will sign them. Even if we say
this feels weird, we do do it. So I just

(04:04):
want everyone to know I am not going to do
it anymore, and I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Say I'm kind of with you.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I argue, this feels invasive to me. It feels it
makes me uncomfortable, and it makes me feel unsafe. That
is absolutely how I feel, and I don't want to
encourage the behavior anymore. If I run into you anywhere anywhere,
that is random. This does not apply to true fans

(04:30):
of our show or the podcast or anything. If I
run into you, I want you to come up and
say hello. I want you to come up and give
me a hug, I will sign something for you. I
will take a selfie with you. Absolutely, But autograph seekers
who are kind of stalking our locations, waiting for us
outside of our hotels, or waiting for us at the
in baggage claim of airports, I'm no longer doing it.
It makes me feel very uncomfortable, and I don't want

(04:51):
to continue the I don't want to encourage the behavior.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
So I thought it was funny.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
We got into the hotel after the live show and
Danielle and I are walking in and all the autograph
hounds are there, and daniel disappear. It's like it was
like there was a Danielle shaped hole in the wall,
like she disappeared, and then it was just me by myself, Like, hey, Danielle,
were gonna, oh okay, I'm just here by myself.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Did you get to the left?

Speaker 2 (05:15):
No, we were talking about the last hotel in Royal No.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I just went in the door and then I went
to the right where I didn't know what they were doing,
and then a bunch of people were like there and
then I always like, I'm I'm a people pleaser, so
I always like to just make people happy, and I
also hate confrontations, so I'm like and im.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
And they play on that too, because I've had con
I've been waiting out of here for an hour, and
I didn't ask you too well.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Chicago's the worst because Chicago they buy tickets to the
flights and so they are waiting for you when you
get off of your plane.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
They're not even in the actually ticket they don't use.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
They do.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
And there was so the last time I went for
C two E two, which is a wonderful convention, there
was maybe not exaggerating, ten people waiting when I got
off the plane, and both there all their arms on
both sides were filled with batterings on one side and
then bat masks on the other side, which they wanted
to me. And I must have signed one hundred and
fifty autographs five feet off.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Of the plane, which makes a lot of money for me,
it does.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
And after a while, and then the thing was I
was flying home, like I ended up staying in Chicago
extra days and then flying home two days later to Connecticut,
not even back to la and they were waiting at
my Connecticut flight at eleven o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, they And I was like, how did you even
know I was doing.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I don't know this. I've only had it proven once
where when I was dating Lance, someone knew that Lance
and I were taking a flight to Mississippi on like
you know, when we went around Christmas. And I don't
remember how I found out, but I found out because
one of the girl's moms worked for Delta and actually

(06:55):
just told her daughter that our names were in the
system for this particular flight. And I suspect there there
is somebody on the inside of the airlines who either
gets a cut of these autographs that they make or
or just enjoys giving these tips. But that tells people
when and where we're coming from. So I don't want
it to be a surprise to anyone. And you, obviously

(07:17):
will and writer are allowed to do whatever you'd like.
I have just made a decision for myself. It will
make me feel better to say it out loud. I
also don't enjoy confrontation. I don't like to let people down,
but I am not going to do it anymore. It
makes me what.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
About what about like outside of a live show, like
when we just walk out of the theater, because I
feel weird about that because we've done meet and greets. Like,
the whole point is that we've said, this is the
time if you want to meet us, if you want
to take a picture with us, and we will do
this at a certain time, and we allow a certain
amount of tickets, and when that time is over, I
want to go home, like I wanted to show the

(07:51):
people that paid to be there. That's the other thing
is it feels like, you know, and and then for
these people, they're not really fans, they're just this is
just like the way to make money for them. Yeah.
I mean, I've always had the rule that I would
only sign one per person and that sort of you know,
and then they still give me crap about that. I'd
also be like, come on, just three more, you know,

(08:12):
and I end up feeling bad because I am a
people pleaser too, and I'm like, I'm with you, Danielle.
I kind of feel like, just say, if you.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Both decide to say no, I won't I won't sign
to me either, because then you're like, you're then looking cool,
while the other two people you're with in the show
kind of looked like jerks. And I would never do that.
So if the two of you are like, we're not signing,
then I will stand in solidarity and also say that
I won't sign.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think that's the fair way to do it.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It absolutely makes me feel uncomfortable. I feel violated. When
those people were inside the lobby of our hotel somewhat blocking, but.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
They found my van. Guys, they found my van because
you because Jensen, we took a photo when you first
met each other in Minneapolis. We all took a photo
outside of the van and it showed on Instagram it
that it said the street name in the background. And
so they were waiting at my van when I went
back with my family to go back after we after
we after, and I was like whoa. And then they

(09:05):
followed me because I said no got on my van
because I was like with my son and my wife,
I'm like no, no, no, this is I am not on that.
And then they followed us to the hotel and pounced
there and I.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Was, oh, man, yeah, we had people at all the
hotels too, And again it's it's it's it is. It's
such a strange dichotomy because true fans, like the fans
are the best, yes, and we've now we would never
say no to a fan coming up being like, can
I take a selfie with you?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Oh my god, I'm a huge fan of the show.
We would never say no.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Who were doing that? Who are actually doing the stalking material?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Are there the autograph secret?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:38):
So anyway, stand with you during pre show chatter. But
I did have to say it because again going with
for the people pleaserness, I don't I don't want anybody
to be surprised. Surprises are out.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Done done so and I didn't know that whole thing
about you and Lance and like that somebody at Delta
was there.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
That's great, So I suspect that's not like the only
time that's happen. And by the way, if they ever
got caught, they would be in.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh I'm sure that I's fired. Yeah, yeah, so much trouble.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle no autograficial
right or.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Strong, and I'm wilfredll.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
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(10:40):
you then. Welcome to this episode of Pod Meets World.
We are recapping Season three, episode nine, The Last Temptation
of Corey. It originally aired December first, nineteen ninety five.
The synopsis is that Corey starts to enjoy all the
attention he gets from a girls now that he and

(11:01):
Tapanga are an item. However, things get a little out
of hand when Missy Robinson kisses him at a party. Meanwhile,
Eric buys some baseball memorabilia hoping to make a fortune,
and Feene preps for a charity walkathon. It was directed
by David Traynor. It was written by Susan Myers and
Judy Tole.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Judy was one of our staff writers.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
She was an absolutely wonderful woman, a great writer and
incredible comedian and has since passed away. I think she
had I think she had skin cancer. She was good
friends with a lot of incredible comedians. She ended up
being on I want to say it was Curby Your
Enthusiasm or one of these other shows. I mean. She
was like a legit stand up and writer and was

(11:45):
like and absolutely she was. She and I used to
sit and talk all the time. She was really wonderful.
And I found out years later I was doing a.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Show called go Fish. I think it was GoFish, I
forget no excuse me.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
I did a pilot called Jack's House and the I
walked into the producer's house and she had a picture
of her with Judy and I was like, oh, you know, Judy,
when's the last time you talked to her? And She's like,
she passed away several years ago, and I had no idea.
It was really sad. So, yeah, she was Judy told
was awesome. She was with us for a while. Yeah,
she was great.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah she Will. She had a Sex in the City
episode dedicated in her name as well, and she did
appear on Curb and she wrote for Sex and the Cities.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, she was really funny, like legitimately, she.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Was really she was. One of her best friends was
Kathy Griffin. Oh wow, so yeah they were. They were
together quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
This episode is some guest stars Elizabeth Harnwaugh as Missy Robinson,
best known as Will's co star and the infamous My
Date with the President's.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Not familiar with her her work. No, no at all.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You don't know her.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I don't. I never knew this connection. Really, I've never
seen my date with the President's daughter and so yeah,
I was texting with Jensen earlier and he mentioned that.
I was like, whoa, Oh, I didn't know that. So
you've never seen my date with President's daughter either of us.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
What. No, I've also never seen double I've seen I've
seen all your work because I love you guys.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, because we were required to for Podme's World. No,
I've seen Time Switch. You had. Of course, I'd seen
Summertimes Switch several times. I had seen it several times.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I am the vice president of the Southern California Summer
or Summertime Switch Fan Club.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I'm not president, I'm vice president. And and yes, I've
seen all your work. So whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well. She would also go on to be Morgan Brody
on over eighty episodes of CSI, and then Lindsay McKeon
as Libby Harper. She was later a lead on Saved
by the Bell The New Class as Katie Peterson, and
then we have the Return of And.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
She came back. She came back. Lindsay came back for
the first Girlfriends Club, which is when Sean gets handcuffed
to the thing by the ex girlfriends. So she's like
one of Sean's ex's kind of randomly, but she's great.
I remember because we saw her at at X whenever
we did that years ago, and she was there, I

(13:56):
guess maybe because of Saved by the Bell or something,
and and I was with Michael Jacobs.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
We were like, hey, that's she played Libby and we
were like, she wasn't a friend of yours for some reason.
I thought she was like a friend of yours in
personal life writer, like, for some reason, I didn't know
she was part of your crowd or.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Something like that. No, well, it was funny because when
I saw her at ATX, we like hung out and
we bonded and like, yeah, we got along. I don't
remember if we hung out back. I might have been
confusing with somebody else. Yeah, no, but but I definitely
remember her and we got along great. And when I
saw her ATX it was so cool to catch up
with her. But I haven't seen her since then. That
was what twenty thirteen something like that, So I haven't

(14:33):
seen her since we got to get her on the show.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, and then we have Brittany Murphy as Trainy. This
is her second and final appearance on the show. And
we have Andrew Margerian as the voice of Bagwell Bill
Stratton as announcer. He had a long career here in
la is the voice of the Rams and just about
every sports talk station the city ever had, which I'm
sure writers very familiar with. Not only does he love

(14:58):
sports ball, but he loves sports rat.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Oh, It's like his favorite thing ever.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, and then we jump into our recap. We're in
the school hallway. Corey is on the phone with Tapanga,
who is sick at home, and she says she'll be
back by Monday. Corey says that Tapanga said she'd never
get sick as long as she was taking that trout fluid.
Topanga corrects him.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Then my first thought was to Danielle have finals this week?

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I ride on here. I apparently had.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Finally, it's also perfectly coft, hair, wonderful and sitting up
in bed, it's like, yeah, nothing sick.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think you. Also, I think that we shot this
right after the first episode of the season. Your tan uh.
Brittany was in it. Yeah, she did two episodes back
to back. If I remember, and we used the Topanga's bedroomsroom,
which is my hair left hair. Yeah, so I think
this was shot. This was the second episode we shot

(15:51):
of the season.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Also my room, I don't
know if you guys noticed, but there is a I
at number four behind my head on top of some pictures,
a full collage of really beautiful women and some men,
and these look like maybe they're my victims and I'm
a serial killer. It's the weirdest wall collage it is.

(16:16):
It looks like I've been collecting pictures of women whose
haircut I want, because there are like it's a bunch
of close ups of really attractive women with like great
shorter hair, and then there's like some pictures of couples
on there, and then just a number four.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Okay, so you went with you being the serial killer.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
What if you're the only one that can solve the crime, right,
maybe you're like more the detective and you're like nobody's
put these things together.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Panga's on it to pang is on it.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Okay, that makes more sense because it doesn't seem like
she'd be a serial killer.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
She's like she's going to catch Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
She sure will, so Corey says he'll call her after
his next period and then calls her topy. Everyone in
the hallway OWZ and Coryell's drop dead We're in love,
and then Sean clears it up that he doesn't mean
the two.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Of them panic John Panick.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
You know what, that is actually out of character for
boy because they never they never referenced Sean being uncomfortable
with anybody thinking that.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
In fact, that other episode, I guess it was from
second season, that was what kiss I was like the hand, well,
your hand feels big, cares He never cared about that. No,
it's such a it's such a dumb joke a character.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
So Corey says he's not embarrassed about being in love
because they do everything together. And then Libby Harper comes
up to Corey and complements his shirt and he responds
that under it, he's half naked.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Sean says a callback to like, we've done that joke.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Ross episode right. We love that idea. We love it
that under your clothes you're naked. It's very funny, very
funny about it. Writers. Sean says Corey was flirting with
Libby Harper, but Corey says he was just being nice
and girls like Libby don't flirt with him. Sean says
women are watching Corey because he has the scent. Corey
asks what the scent is, and Sean says, it's the

(18:04):
scent of being unavailable and virgo they want him. A
very funny joke.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, I'm sorry, very very briefly, because I've heard this
is the case and it never happened to me.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Writer, did you notice women hitting on you more when
you put on a wedding ring? Yeah? You did.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I never nothing, There's been no change. I didn't get
hit on before, I don't get hit on now.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I don't know if it was like so obvious, but like,
I've definitely noticed in my life that when I'm in
a relationship, women are more comfortable and flirty in general. Like,
whenever I'm like really alone and sad and wanting women
to hit on me, it doesn't happen. Let me put
it that way, right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
I think maybe be alone and sad to do with
the partnered up factor.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
It's the not taking care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Sad and desperate women turns them when you're happy. Women
actually being attracted to so that's right.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, I mean that's it's really it's it's so dumb
to make it about like how women can sense that
you're in a relationship. The truth is you're just comfortable
and you're happy, and you're like quit the wedding ring,
like they see that. There's I mean I did for
a few years for a while, so I did. But yeah, no,
I don't think it was ever because of that, Like,

(19:31):
but I definitely have noticed that, like I'm more comfortable
around women, and women more comfortable around you when you're
not desperately trying to hit on them. Well, yeah, of
course feels better.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
You're already taken, so it's like that nothing could happen
from this, so you're just kind of talking.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, right, interesting, Corey says, it's not like Missy Robinson
is just going to come flirt with him. And then,
wouldn't you know it, Missy Robinson comes up to him
and asks if he knows what time the sun sets.
It's six fifty two, in case you were wondering. Corey
gets nervous and looks to Shane, and then we're in
Phoenie's classroom. Sean whispers to Corey that Missy is into

(20:07):
Panga's seat. Corey shushes Sean as he's trying to pay attention,
but Phoene calls out Corey to explain what he was saying.
Corey has no idea. Phoene then calls on Sean, who
says Franklin Roosevelt in the New Deal. Phoene grabs his
chest in shock and says, dear Lord, he's right. Sean
explains that's been his answer for two years, sooner or
later it had to pay off.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's a great beat, great beat. Did you guys notice too?
This is like maybe the only time this has happened
in the history of Boyby's world. There is Phoenie a
hubbub going on at the beginning of the scene. Like, so,
while I'm talking to Corey, he's getting here. Yes, Yeah,
it's like they recorded bill generic hubbub hubbub And it's
like that never happens in our show. It's usually like

(20:47):
if the teacher's talking, they're just off camera, we don't
hear them at all. But for whatever reason this episode,
they decided to record some Phoenie dialogue.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
He tality, yeah, a little bit over reality.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I love seeing Phoenie at the front of the class.
I know, every time I see it, it just brings
me right back. It's wonderful. It's where he belongs. I
love it.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
It is a really comfortable feeling to see him up there.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
We have actually not had that many classroom scenes this
whole season, I know, like we haven't had one of
mister Turner scenes.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
There's been a lot of classroom scenes, but not a
lot of classroom teaching scenes.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
It's like walking in and having a scene about something
or walking in the hallway and it's.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Not like sitting there and learning a lesson. You don't, right,
The integration of like the book into that that is
really first and second season. Yeah, it's starting related all
by the wayside. Yeah, it absolutely yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
As class ends, Phoenie says everyone needs to pick a
partner for their next assignment. Naturally, Corey and Sean partner up.
Phoene stops them and tells them to spread the wealth.
Sean says he has to do the project with his
best friend until a girl asks him to partner up
and Sean immediately ditches him for her. And then Trieny
aka Brittany Murphy comes up to Corey saying tapanga is

(21:55):
always her partner, and there are very few people who
understand her. Triney says she can call to Panga at
three in the morning and without saying a word to
Panga knows it's her.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
She's so good, She's so good. I don't love this
scene though, I was something really Oh, I wanted her
to be quirkier. Yeah, I mean, well, like what she's
saying is funny, Like I love the joke of like
I call you know, but like as a I don't know.
I just I thought maybe she should be like eating
something or drinking something or doing something. But she's like

(22:24):
move constantly moving her body, and it's like, that's great.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think you're constantly What you're bumping against is the
fact that the last time we saw Trainy he was
actually on a date with her, and there was none
of you didn't pick up at all that he found
her annoying. You you didn't get that he had a
crush on her or anything, but there wasn't any sort
of the Janitor bud Feeney relationship. Yes, I wanted her
to be weirder or to go on for too long

(22:50):
yet annoying, so that we can see him become annoyed
instead of him just going I'm annoyed with her all
the time, and I was being like, oh, I'm sorry,
I didn't know that about your relationship. But feel like
they told us something about the relationship we missed but
we didn't.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
It also feels like Corey's kind of mean.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Look exactly what it is because we don't there. I
would have loved for her to have a bunch of
examples about like where if she if Triney could have
been more like young Danielle, let me ask you a question,
because here are my answers, and then just not shut
up for like three minutes, and for him to be
like trying to leave the whole time she's talking. I
would love her, so, I mean, trust Oh I'm not

(23:26):
I'm not gonna give Brittany Murphya. No, she's great. It
was more about the writing.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
It's more about the writing to me too, Yeah, it's
about the character setup.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
It's because she's wonderful. I mean later, when she's in
the bedroom and she does that thing where she's like,
I'm gonna stay for only one more hour. No nobody
gets it's such a great So Triny hints that she
wants to be Corey's partner, but he ignores her and
walks out of the class. As he walks out into
the hallway, Missy stops him to ask him to be
her partner. Corey says he's going to do the project solo,

(23:53):
and but Missy is still flirting and calls Corey funny
and cute, and I just like to point out that
Corey is doing the right ish thing here. He's suspected
miss he's flirting with him. He says, no, I'm not
going to be your partner. I'm gonna put this this
boundary here and I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Going to say the last time.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Right, But we'll talk about that. So he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
He says, I do like This is also the only
moment where there's any indication of why she might like him,
which is kind of nice, like it would be I
would I would appreciate this episode a lot more if
Corey or innocently was awesome to her in some way
instead of just It seems like a lot of this
episode is reconfirming this notion of the scent, like we're

(24:37):
correct talking about without any rationalization of like what she
is interested in about Corey.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
No, Like the implication is that women want men who
are taken because they're taken and some and that makes
them feel better about themselves that they were able to
steal a taken man.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
It's also there's it's it's it's the stereotypical woman showing
disrespect to another woman, like not caring that she's in
a relationship and I don't.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Care, and it's kind of it's like, Okay, I get
where you're going. But it would have been so easy
to make give her a really strong reason to like Corey, right,
Like Corey is a funny guy. He's cute in his
own way, and like he and the fact that he
thinks of himself as unpopular and average, which we've clearly
established from season one, is such a great thing for
him to to just appreciate somebody thinking he's cool or funny,

(25:28):
you know, Like Corey would so easily fall into of
her situation like this if if a girl really did
like him, I really did think he was. But instead
she is like after this scene, after this couple lines,
she is just on like seduction track, and it kind
of is psychopathic. It's like, what is the motivation here?

(25:49):
What does she want from him?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Other than like so is she also just trying to
break up Corey into Panga.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
That's the point.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
He wants Corey, whether it's for a long time or not,
he just wants.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
But we don't know what. Yeah, we don't really know why,
which is which I guess maybe is enough of an explanation.
She just thinks Corey is hot. But I thought it
would be cooler if if there was like a little
just a little bit more of a reason. Like he
said something in class, he says something here that.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Well, what you said it should have been what you
said at the beginning, which is and Sean should have
been the one to explain.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
It's like, now that you're in a relationship.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
You're comfortable and relaxed your hold, You're easier to be around.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You don't not awkward, like when she fell on your face, like.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Something like that when she came up to him and said,
do you know when the sun sets? If? He had
a witty response back to it, and and she giggled
and was like, you're so funny if a little yeah, yeah,
so I agree with you. So Cory says he's going
to do the project solo. Then Feoemi walks by with
Triney and says she still needs a partner, but Corey
says he's the.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Way he's holding her, She's just this like wild animal
that he caught and it has to keep away from her.
Oh god.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
He puts his arm around Missy to avoid having to
work with Trainey, and Missy says Corey's girlfriend Topo Gigio,
won't mind, and when Corey corrects her that her name
is Tapanga, she says, whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
This is where too comes from?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
We've never heard this before? Which is it is a
reference to something else, little.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
To a character on a Why can't I think.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Of the name the Pumpet Show or something?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
No, like the Late showed Sullivan maybe maybe Ed Sullivan.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, but it was we caught we did those years.
This is another one of those. We did this for years.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
So uh. Then we're in the school cafeteria. Corey walks
over to sit next to Sean and is confused because
Bertha told him his lunch was already paid for. Then
Missy waves at Corey from another table, and Sean says
he still doesn't realize the scent.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
And I also call him corns or.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
That we ever do it?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I think so it comes up again.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
And my skin is horrible. I am so covered in
make up this time.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Real.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
First time I noticed was the first time I noticed it.
I've never had an episode in this episode. It's so bad. Yeah,
this one I saw. I didn't see it before, but
this one. Haven't gotten on acutane yet.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah. Well, Missy calls to Corey again to say she
saved him a seat. Corey says he's going to go
over there, but just to talk about the project, and
Sean tells him remember, and Corey finishes, be myself, and
John says, no, be me me, good life, and then
Feenie walks up to Turner and Williams. He's all buddy
buddy and out of character. He's looking for pledges for

(28:32):
a charity walkathon.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I just, I mean, Bill Daniels at this point can
do no wrong for me. He's my favorite part of
the show. I had no idea we were on a
TV show with a guy. Obviously I respected him, but
now I'm like, I want to just watch the Phoenie show. Daniel.
This scene just kills me. Every little line, every line

(28:55):
reading I was like laughing, was perfect. He's perfect, and
it's just so entertaining. You know, it's it's just it's
its own show, like you know, it's its own show
for the grown ups watching along with their kids to
be like, oh, Phoene's putting one overs.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
And three of them together are so good too. It's
a great dynamic, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Love, I know, I love the three of them together.
Turner says he's already down for two dollars a mile,
and Phoene says, janitor Bud paid twice as much, and
he's a man of no fixed address, which I is brilliant.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
You gotta be bud Man.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Eli agrees that Turner has to beat Bud, so he
puts down five dollars a mile and then he leaves.
Eli says he's always up for a good cause. And
then Phoene's hand cramps up. He says, oh, and the
weather gets damp, his joints swell up, like last year
when his knee swelled up so badly he had to
be a nose show to the walkathon. Eli says, look, man,
why don't I just give you fifty dollars so you

(29:49):
don't have to hurt yourself. But Phoene is trying to
persuade him into donating more by saying he may not
even be able to walk the whole thing. William says,
you know what, I'll give you fifty dollars a mile.
That way, if you only do one mile, you still
get fifty bucks. And then Phoene smiles like a little devil.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
He's got the great smile too. That's a little like gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I love it. Missy wants Corey to feel how soft
her skin is now that she's tried a new moisturizer,
and he just touches her really quickly and says it
reminds him of their history project. Missy questions why Corey
thinks her skin reminds him of the Great Depression, and
he says, no, just the end part when everyone gets
all happy.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
It's a great lines. It's a great lines. It's funny.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Corey asks about the project and Missy says she can't
work on it this weekend because she has a party
and that Corey should come and bring Sean. Notice she
doesn't say you should bring to Penga. She says, bring Sean.
Corey is hesitant and asks if she thinks they'll find
time to talk about the Great Depression at the party,
and she says it wouldn't be a party if we didn't. Now,

(31:02):
this is the part where I guess you very easily
could have just been.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Like, no, no, no, I'm not I'm not going for me.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
It was the next scene with Tabanga when it was like,
why is he rationalizing going to this? Why does he?
And yet he somehow makes it and the whole show
seems to make it her fault.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I mean, she does sexually assault him, which we'll get to.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I mean, she's like.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
But this is also I didn't think this was that
big a deal because again, back back when we were
at seventh grade, eighth grade, there'd be parties and it's like,
even if you have a girlfriend or whatever, if she
couldn't go, you'd still go because all your boys would
be there.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
There'd be fifty people there. I mean, it wasn't a
big deal. But he already knows that Missy's into it.
At this point, it's become clear he's talked about it,
and that he still chooses to go. It's like, right,
and which is all fine, because that's the point of
the story, right. I just wish Corey knew it, would
acknowledge that he was into her, and that's why he's going.

(32:01):
He chooses to go to the party, and it would
have just been a little little easy wrinkle of him
saying to Sean, we do kind of think Missy's she's
she's so cool. I want to be around her. Now,
do you love to see I didn't think. I didn't think.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Like I think he's he's enamored with the idea that
women actually want him. I don't think it's necessarily Missy.
It's the idea that, wow, all of a sudden, I'm
the average guy, but now women want me. And it's
more being infatuated with that than with her as an
actual person.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I get. I wish he enjoyed her finding him funny
and interesting more like you know, like especially in the
scene in the basement. It would be so great if
he's having a good time, like if he can't help
himself because he's she's laughing at all of his jokes
or his stories, and she's.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Finding putting it on And it's nine o'clock.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
I stayed too late because I just got it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
But no, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
This happened to me.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
By the way, this exact story happened to me, by
the way, really exact story happened.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
You had a girlfriend and no, I was you in
this situation.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
So my friend Mike at the time was had a girlfriend,
but another girl liked him, and we were told there
was a party. The two of us went and there
was just two girls there. It was the girl that
liked him and a girl that I had a crush
on who did not like me at all. So they
went often hooked up. But because they hooked up, the

(33:32):
girl that I like actually kissed me until Mike walked
in the hallway, and then she threw me across the
room as if I weighed nothing, because she didn't want
anyone to see that she had actually kissed me. So
it was like I remember being next to her on
the couch then being fourteen feet away in like a
half a second.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Did you undergo like a physical transformation from the age
of fifteen to sixteen where you went from like the
Phantom of the opera to who you are now? Dude,
what you.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Talk is if you were like this, I was the
funny I was, but I was just I was the
funny kind of a beautiful human being.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Will there's like no point in your life where you
weren't a beautiful human being. You have like do you
have features? Beautiful human being? No, was chubby or the
funniest human being I've ever met in all, that's what
I was. I was the funny that's.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
What, funny, gorgeous guy. He was a funny, gorgeous white guy.
He really had very.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Was. I was overweight, I was. I was the chubby kid,
the chubby funny kid.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
I was not. You know what I think it is.
My my take is that you were gone a lot
more than you think. No, I think you were not.
You think of yourself as like having had a normal uh,
like regular attendant, like regular school attendance. But you were not.
At eleven, we were already going to New York. I
just don't you think you're remembering it wrong. No, you're

(34:57):
doing Nickelodeon shows.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
I'm sorry you're telling me I'm remembering my own life wrong.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
With my memory.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I did all of don't you sit there during the summer,
so I missed no school during doing don't just sit there?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I missed, And I was like, you didn't think you
were part of the community.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I wish that were. I wish everything you're saying was
was actually the case. It wasn't. I was just the
funny kid that everyone was friends was. Maybe it was
because you smelled, so they were all my friends smoked.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
No, I was the funny I was the funny, kind
of chubby kid that just I was popular with girls
in like the sixth and seventh grade and then eighth grade. Something.
There was a weird power dynamic shift in eighth grade
and all the kids that had friends were literally beaten
up and then weren't part of the friend group anymore.
So the start of high school, I had no friends none.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
It was weird.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
It was a really weird dynamic in my life. But
all my friends say the same thing now when they
look back and I, No, you were never there.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
No, I was there the whole time. No, you were
the cool guy. Nope, wasn't the cool guy.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
So it's like they remember it the way you guys
remember it, and I remember it the.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Way and actually happening.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
We're all probably are the people who were there.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Only Will Fernell, who's his own person from inside himself, Yes,
the one we should trust.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yes, Okay, I'm known for having a horrible memory.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
It's not about memory, It's about perception. Ah Dreamy walks
up behind Corey, which scares him, and asks if he
wants to go over to Tapanga's house after school. Corey
acts very caught and says, do you think you're the
only person who was thinking about poor sick to Panga?
I love the girl, I'm thinking about her right now.
Then he sits down with Missy and he pops back
up saying he's thinking about her right now too, and
he's gonna go over there and think about her some more.

(36:40):
And then we're in the Matthew's kitchen slash living room.
Corey tells Sean that he's going to the party and
nothing will happen because he's his own person and doesn't
care what anyone else thinks. Sean asks Corey where he's
going as he walks into the living room, and Corey
responds that he's going to run it by Tapanga, which
I thought was funny. Hart Eric is holding a hammer
into the Matthews family photo and asks Sean to take

(37:02):
the picture while he puts a nail on the wall.
Without flinching, he grabs the picture and walks right out
the front door. Not so funny, No, no exchange between
just like, God, it's awesome. Eric makes a hole in
the wall when he tries to hammer a nail, but
says it's a good that he's putting a picture up.

(37:24):
Amy and Alan walk into the house.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
And hanging up anything in my house but exactly what
I do, like, I never take the time to measure.
I'm always like that looks about right, bomb, and then
it's like completing the wrong space. So I have like
four holes for everything hanging up in my house. Like
you know, I'll do that occasionally, but oh my god,
it's awful.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Amy and Alan walk into the house and Alan says
he had to wrestle Sean for their family picture. Eric
hangs a picture of baseball of a baseball player and
says with the money he'll be making, Alan will be
able to buy himself a new family. Amy asks who
the poor man with the swollen head in the picture is,
and Eric says that man is going to be no
college tuition and that man, ye Manel, our friend of

(38:08):
the show, favorite writers, friend of the show, couldn't love
him anymore.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Wrote the famous scream episode That's right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Eric says he's going to say one word. Baseball collectibles
are hot. And then he says he paid two hundred
macaroons for that photo of Teddy bean bag Bag. Well,
Alan says that man is a bum and that picture
is not worth two hundred dollars. But Eric says, Baggie
is only two hit by pitches away from the major
league record. Two more bean balls and they can all

(38:38):
go to college.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
My favorite life college. What are you talking about? But
you see with such confidence, exactly, bean balls. We all
go to college.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
And if what you're saying is right, Rider, this makes
total sense. I'm It's the second episode, so I'm comfortable
it's like and then I lose.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
It for some reason for a couple episodes. But I
was good here. This is okay. You were having fun,
yes exactly.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
He asks who holds the record for getting hit in
the head, and Alan says he's thinking Eric, thinking Eric
prank cute, And then we're into Panga's room. Triny is
telling Tapanga about the school project and that she couldn't
find a partner, so she's doing it with Feenie. But
Feenie also told her to never call again, which again,
I would.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Watch it and the whole show. Yeah, just Feenie and
Triny by the way show show. Oh, I would love
that them doing a project together on the Great Depression.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Please, oh man, so funny. Corey walks in and isn't
excited to see Triny, and Triny says, well, now that
Corey is here, she's sure they don't want her hanging around,
and Topega says oh, and then Triny immediately tells her, Okay,
I'll stay, but only for one more hour. Corey looks
unhappy and Triney explains she was just joking and no
one gets me. It's so great, And as she walks

(39:53):
out the door, this is the scene I remember the most.
This is me too, isn't it fun?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
That's so funny in this scene. But I have the.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Bedroom scene, Yeah, the bedroom scene of my Of all
the scenes that I got to do with Britney Murphy
in the two episodes, this is the scene I remember
the most.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Me too, And I wasn't in it for whatever reason.
I think we were just all hanging out that I.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Think we were all hanging out in the bedroom and
there were Yeah, it was just comfortable. And I remember Britain.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well I saw her sitting on your bed. I was like, yes, now,
because I didn't remember this set when we saw in
the first episode. But when I saw her siting in
the bed, I was like, that's the day. I remember
hanging out during rehearsal and.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Talking to her and her mom. Yeah weird too, so funny. Yeah,
this was this is the moment. I was like, man,
I really I really remember, and I think for me
the blocking being so easy, I didn't have anything else
to remember. I was just I just got to sit
there and like talk to her and kind of enjoy her,
which meant during rehearsal, any downtime we had, we were
also just sitting there and talking. Yeah, So I think

(40:51):
maybe that made it really memorable for me. So Tapega
asks about Corey's day, which he says was uneventful. Corey
says he got partnered up with a girl. Oh what's
her name? Topanga already knows it's Missy because Trainey told her.
Cory says she is kind of a stupid name, huh
to Panga, and then he calls Missy a flake because
all she could talk about is her party tonight, but

(41:12):
Topanga says Trainy didn't mention a party. Cory says, not
many people tell Treney about parties, which is a very
funny line. Topega asks if he's going. Corey gaffaws that
he's not going without Topanga. To Pega says he should go,
and she seems like a real chill girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
She's like, yeah, yeah, go to a party. Well, where's
the line where Topega doesn't say anything and he goes, huh.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Before that, I'm going to party and she's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Like wait years a go and she doesn't, so he
sort of forces it. Yeah, that's hysteric.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
It is so funny. Mission and then she says he
can go. It's very very funny. Cory says he'll pick
up ice cream for Topanga on his way home, and
she says he doesn't need to do that, but if
he insists, it should be organic rice milk ice cream.
But if they don't have that, make it chunky monkey
double fudge with Jimmy's.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
I don't know why I remember you during run throughs
saying that all the time.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
We meet you funny.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Too.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I think they changed the name of the ice cream
a million times?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Is that what it was? That why I remember it?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I remember there being we were all.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Probably backstage, we were like it should be this we
all had opinions, probably.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Because I think we changed the name of it a
bunch because I remember Michael it being very important to
Michael that I think this may have been a similar
flavor to like his wife's favorite ice cream flavor.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Food with him was always a big thing.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Food, yeah in here good hair, food and hair yeah yep.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Corey says if he's not back by nine, they must
be at war and assures Topanga he'll be back to
Panga looks confused as Corey exits, I'm also confused about
the at war reference.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
But I think it just means something so hard, something
so horrible. But yes, So this is where I was like,
what is what is Corey right going would go to
this party?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Right?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Which I guess is you can't say it's just because
he thinks it's a party, so he's just gonna have
fun with his friends and a girl that likes him.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
But yeah, but then why then I don't get why
he's playing it where it's like he's doing something wrong already.
That's my that's in the writing where it's like if
he thinks this is going to a party and his
girlfriend is so chill, which she is it's like, why
are you playing it like you're already because he likes
he wants.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
To eat it too, right, I mean that's the whole thing,
is that it's temptation and he and so I guess.
I wish it was a little clearer that Corey likes
she likes him, or that there is something there, even
if it's just having the hots for one another physically.
It would be nice for him to acknowledge that, especially
by the end of the episode. Like, I really wish

(43:51):
that at the end of this episode Corey was able
to say, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
But I'm not blind.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, I just I don't know. But instead it's like
he's a victim.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
The whole episode is like keeping him. It's the whole
there's so much energy and twisting to make sure that
Corey is innocent. Yeah, like like he didn't he didn't
pick her as his partner. He got forced because it
was either training or her. He didn't choose to go
to a party where it was a makeout party because she,
you know. And it's like this constant like it's always
putting it on Missy that he's in this position, which

(44:25):
minimizes the whole point of the episode, which is that
he is tempted and it should just be that, like, yeah,
he tried to. He thought he could maybe make out
with a girl or or flirt with a girl at
least and get away with it. And I don't know,
I just think it was.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
I understand Will's point though, two, which is like to him,
this kind of becomes a little bit of an experiment,
which this is what Corey's wanted his entire the entire show,
like I just want to be cool where girls want
me to come to their party. And now Sean is saying, oh,
you haven't realized that's happened. Now it's happened, because all
you needed was a girlfriend. Now that you have when

(44:58):
it's happened, and Corey's looking at of like there's no way,
are you serious? And then I get invited. Let's go.
Let's so he's wanting to take the experiment one step further, right,
little maybe less about it being specifically Missy. If it
were another cool girl, he would have been doing the
same thing, like this has become what is this that's happened?
Am I cool?

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Now? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
I can see I can see it from from that way,
so uh. Then we are in Missy's house, new house
alert but same basements, same basement, same basement, sa basement, close, got.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
The same market. Something happened with closets is a real
powerful place. We keep coming back to him. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Cory and Sean walk into Missy's basement, but no one
is there except Missy and Libby. Sean asks if this
is a surprise party and miss and Libby says kind of.
Corey asks where everyone is, but Missy says, this is
everyone surprise surprise. And then Corey and Sean are shocked. Shocked,
and then we're in Missy's house. Continues, Missy says it's

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just the four of them. Corey turns to Sean and
asks what they're going to do. Sean says he'll take
Libby and Corey can dig Missy, but Corey reminds him
he has a girlfriend named Tapanga. Libby starts flirting with Sean.
I didn't know if she was whispering in your ear.
She must be.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
I think she said like, let's go upstairs to the
bedroom or something like that would be my guess. Yeah,
there's nobody else here or.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Something like that.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, so uh, Corey asks if he had anything to
do with this, and Sean says no, but I did
dream this once, except you weren't here.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Great line.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Corey says they need to stick together and stay strong,
but Libby starts whispering in Sean's ear, and Corey tells
him to go. Sean and Libby run upstairs away from
the privacy of the basement.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
But again, I know parents aren't home.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Find out later parents aren't. Yeah, but in the moment,
my thought was, so you go upstairs where the parents are,
because I thought parents were probably there. But okay. Missy
says she's happy Corey is there and is looking for
a compliment on her dress. Corey says his girlfriend to
Panga has the same dress, but longer comes longer give

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a great line. Missy pulls Corey over to the couch
to sit down, and Corey repeats lunchroom lady, lunchroom lady.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Which is peak Ben Savage doing Adam Sandler. It's exactly
what that is.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
That was Ben like the craft service table, and Ben
in the classroom and Ben everywhere.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
That was Ben doing lady. So Adam Sandler for him,
it's actually like an Adam Sandler wie because Adam Sandler
has the lunchroom. Yeah, but that was just that was
straight up Ben and he's doing it for this whole
seat like this sort of baby talk.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
So Corey points out the deer heads on the wall,
and Missy tells Corey not to worry because her dad
has never shot a boy she liked. Corey questions if
Missy likes him, and she says she does, at least
what she knows about him, but she wants to know
a lot more. She turns his face toward her by
his chin and says she's going to look deep into
his eyes until she learns it all. And then Corey
starts talking about the day he was born in Jefferson Hospital.

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It was drizzling and he loved his blue.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Blankie, and then the time dissolve where they've obviously been
sitting there for a while and he's still talking, talking.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
But he's only caught her up to the fourth grade
when he got the awful diagnosis about his flat feet.
Missy cuts him off and says they should talk about
what's going on now. Cory says, well, and not much
is going on except the two of them sitting in
this room with these heads. Missy wants to make it interesting,
so she turns on music and starts to dance with Corey.
Missy leans in to kiss Corey, but he puts his

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hand between them, so she kisses his hand and makes
our second to the graduate reference by saying, Missy, you're
trying to seduce me.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
So again Cory sees it coming and does the right
thing by stopping it.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
He likes, that's still the wrong thing by even being
in this basement at this.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Point, right, yeah, even if you say I'm following through
on this experiment about going to this party to see
if I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
The minute it was just the four of you, should
you should bail?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
You need to bail. You cannot stick around, and they
try to make it like, oh, I'm doing this for
my friend Sean because Shawan's gonna go.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Yeah, no, cause Shawn needs help with girls for some reason.
Exactly now this is now Corey. Corey has officially crossed
over to this is now your fault.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Corey is participating in this.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Which you know, if he likes Missy makes sense if
you got the hotspurg girl you got and if she
but you know, she's like, I want to look into
your eyes and know it all again. It would be
great if it was like I want to hear more
like about actual cornus, like or that she thought that
this was hysterical that he does this. I don't know,
just but this also makes perfect She's on that one.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Then why they change this episode in the airing order,
because there's no way that the second episode there too together.
He's already cheating on her. Yeah, it's like you can't,
you can't have that. So they were like, why don't
we hold that for it.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Is like if you think about the first episode of
the season and this, it is like full Corey to
Panga story, you know, like and then we had to
sort of go away from that for a while, do
more of the Sean stuff, finish up the Sean Turner
storylines and stuff, because it is really intense to come
in third season. Like imagine if this was the second episode, that.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Would be like nuts, He's already there together, He's already
had the way.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
I still feel that way all right, nine episodes in
and I'm like, already this relationship is clearly not good.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Just unction hugely dysfunctional. The Jeene jacket scene in this
I'm like, wow, this is it doesn't seem to be
making anybody happy, definite.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Corey is miser mearly unhappy and.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Just yeah, pull pull pull, pull the shoot, pull the shoes, like.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Begging him to talk nice slea to her and also
not kiss other people for.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
People banking into her home. Yeah, there's flags. I brought
you half your cat when I was young.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
I think I thought it was romantic and I'm so
again we get the graduate reference. Missy Robinson, you're trying
to seduce me, She says, well, she's not doing a
very good job of it, since it's past nine and
they're not even making out yet. More panics that it's
past nine. He asks for a phone. She points to
the court at home phone next to the couch, and
he takes it into the closet to call to Panga.
It is for sure the exact same closet as the seven.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Minutes in exact same closet.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
He didn't even try to hide it. Cory says he's
on his way to Chubbies to pick up to Pega's
ice cream. To Panga asks how the party is, and
he says, oh, there were a lot of no shows.
As Missy comes into the closet closes, the door behind her,
coming up right behind Corey.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Phone doesn't ring, by the way, bad fact bad acting
the phone. He's like, oh, usually parents have to answer.
You can ask the terrible facting, you know. I also
just wish, like when they're on the couch and even
the dance, like why isn't Corey having any fun? Like

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he's he knows he's doing something wrong. I mean you
should be. That's why he's there. Like if you were
ever in this position, you would be having fun either getting.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Well, you need to make a choice. You would either
get the heck out of there because I'm not going
to have fun because I'm doing something.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Guilty, or I just feel like I'm doing it. Yeah,
I'm She just want one where he's like, oh, I
really like this. You know, she's laughing at me or
I'm laughing at somebody. She said, like we're connecting and
this is not good. Like but instead he's just miserable, miserable,
miserable stopping her from kissing her, miserable. Oh my god,
it's nine o'clock. It's like you were there.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
But that's what I'm saying. They tried to make it
seem like the only reason he stayed is because Sean
was going to be with Libby, and so he's doing
Libby's in a favor, like, oh, go away, you go
be with Libby. I'll just drag this out and see
what happens. So that's kind of what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Okay. Yeah, it could have been written to a little more.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
I think, But yeah, I think so too, Like he
could have been like Sean, where is Sean? Like he
can't leave because Sean's not there.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
He starts to leave and you hear me, yell, don't
do it.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Exactly. They could have played that up a little bit more. Ye,
So Missy just assaults him. She starts nibbling on Corey's
ear while he's still on the phone with Tapanga, and
he starts singing, Oh Susanna, and he's giggling, trying not
to make it obvious that he's being sexually assaulted. Corey
hangs up, but Missy says he's not getting out because
she is scary as hell and wants a kidnapping charge apparently,

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and then she kisses Cory. Oh god. Corey says he
can't do this. He has a girlfriend, and even though
Missy is very attractive, and then she hears her dad
come home and she panics, saying he has to leave
fast because she's not allowed to have boys over, and
he says, she's very sensitive. Did you guys here?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I could have heard it wrong. Was it a honk?

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yes? I think it was like the car lonked okay,
the locking of the car when your car, when your
because I.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Was like, okay, all right, that makes sense. The alarm, okay,
I think.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
It's the I think it's he locked the quadrant and
makes it like makes a horn, because we tell you
have this discussion in our house as well.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Cory asks how fast and she points to the heads
on the wall and says faster, which is again a
very funny line, funny joke. Corey sees both deer heads
and then imagine his imagines his own head as a third.
His head looks at him and tells.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Him to get out, by the way. Do you think
is Ben doing that?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:43):
It is?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Like that's one of those things that if you had
shown me, I would have been like, what is like
there was an episode of Boybet's World where Ben's head
was on a thing. I would be like, I have
no idea what this is, because you know, we we
would have show like you know, oh yeah, and then
never done it again. I wouldn't remember it. And yet
I'm sure it's iconic for some people, like his head

(55:09):
on that thing. Yeah for sure, I had no idea
this ever happened.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yeah, me neither. Sean comes up behind Corey and Sean
tells him there isn't a basement in town. He hasn't escaped.
Mickey gives very detailed instructions about how to get out,
and Corey says, I'm sensing you've done this before. And
then we're in the Matthews living room. Eric is watching
baseball for Baggie and tells Amy and Allan to come watch.
Alan clarifies, so if he gets hit two more times,

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this picture becomes a priceless treasure, and Eric says, you're
proud of me, very cute. Amy notices Bagwell is getting
led to home plate and Eric explains, well, yeah, the
last time he got hit, both his eyes swelled up.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
So disturbed though, is when the hit happens is your
face you that's too or a complete psychopath? The gleam
and pleasure in your eyes. I will die so he
managed to be so happy and yet completely evil at

(56:08):
this I was great.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
On the first pitch, Baggy gets hit by the ball
and Eric is thrilled. Even though Baggy is still on
the ground and Amy and Allen are cringing. The announcer
says Baggy is requesting a microphone from the stretcher. Baggie
says today he considers himself the stupidest man on the
face of the earth, and then announces he quits baseball.

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And this is a reference to Lou Garrigg, who, when
he retired said today, I consider myself the luckiest man
on the faces of the earth. Yep, and Alan says, well,
two hundred macaroons down the drain. Eric says, no way,
mark my words that man plays baseball again or else.
My name isn't Eric Neil Matthews. Amy says, that's not

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your middle name.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
That's one of my favorite Eric moments. That's one of
my favorite Eric moments ever?

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
And that's the end of the storyline. Yeah, that's the button.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Yeah that Eric's Neil and it ain't so is another
one that that is it's a take off on Shoeless
Joe Jackson when when he got caught cheating and it
was a little kid going.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Say say it ain't so, Joe, say it ain't so.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
So that's another Those are two old school baseball references.
I've heard Neil was wrong, but don't they do Randall
at one point too? Isn't it Eric Randall?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Matthew? Sure it's on IMDb since the le Kyle's what
I talked to my call yourself, I think that should
be in quotes. Yeah, your name.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
I think it's Randall, but I I could be wrong.
But that's one of my favorite all time Eric moments.
Is just the perplexed look of the and Betsy's reading
is perfect.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
That's that's it's.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
So.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Then we're in Chubby's. Corey and Sean walk into Chubby
so Corey can order to pang his ice cream. Corey
asks Sean why he kissed Missy Robinson, not realizing he
says it out loud so everyone in Chubby's can hear.
Sean says Missy attacked him and Corey is the victim, which,
to be fair, is the truth. That is what happened.
I do understand that Corey was there and he should

(58:31):
have left. Being in a place that you shouldn't be
is not an invitation for someone to forcibly put their
mouth on.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Your Like you can do it when you because you
can mitigate the risk, But it still doesn't make it right.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
It's a little like to take it to an extreme.
It's a little like, well, did you see what she
was wearing? Yes, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that
he was there.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I mean, I think, I mean, I think the key
thing is that she did try and he stopped her
with his hand between their lips. First. Yeah, that's the key.
Like if he hadn't done that, I would say, like,
you know, you go in, you make the move for
a kiss, and if you know, if you get to
tould lips right, if you touch lips, you could say, like,

(59:16):
I don't think that that's always assault, you know, but
like in this case, it's the third time that she's
He's also.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Not just stopped with his fingers. He also says, I
have a girlfriend. I have a girlfriend. I don't want
to do this. I can't do this. Whether it's I
can't or I don't want to, it doesn't you know.
He says, I can't do this. I have a girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
He literally runs into the closet and shuts the door
to be away from her, and she then follows him
in there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
So yeah, like I think it's it's doing a lot
of work to just make sure that Corey is as
innocent as he possibly can be, right, and he does
take responsibility for for something. But yeah, I think the
show I was just wanting to make sure that that
the viewers identify with Corey because if it was too

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easy to be like, well, Corey, you're just an ass,
You're just a cheating ass, you know, and then the
whole episode's useless.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
So this is very different than Lauren, you know, which
they go down that road as well, where he emotionally
and physically cheats, which is which is a whole different
thing totally.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Yeah, It's just I would like to point out that
Sean is acting like, look, I'm going to come up
with a I'm going to come up with a trick
for you. You're a victim, but it is actually the truth.
You know you can. So it gets worse though for
me because, like you say, Corey is the victim, which
i truth is basically the truth, not a lie, even

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though Sean is acting like it's a little bit of
a lie. Corey gets the ice cream from a new
Jobby's employee, and Sean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Says, Corey, this ice cream too, and nowhere else to
get anything ice cream. You have your raves there your
ice cream exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Even though apparently the school is right next to a
frozen yogurt shop where Madam Ospenskaya reads could have gone her.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
That got shut down. Yes, okay, health code violation, yes,
health go violace too many wolves.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
So Corey gets the ice cream, and Sean says Corey
is home free. He kissed another girl and he's gonna
get away with it until he says hello Topanga, and
Topanga is standing behind Corey. Corey turns around to see
Topanga and starts singing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Fifteen time, I wasn't even going to it. I wasn't
even gonna mention it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
She starts singing Oh Susannah again, and Topanga says she
needed to get out of the house and that it's
getting late and she worried Corey might have forgotten about her.
He says, does this look like I forgot about you?
Holding up the ice cream. Topanga takes the ice cream
from him and asks if it's okay if she doesn't
kiss him because she's still jermy. She blows him a
kiss and starts to walk out. Sean says Corey is
home free. Corey says home nothing, and then stops Tapanga

(01:01:48):
saying he can't lie to her about what happened tonight.
And then Corey says he accidentally kissed Missy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Before we get into that, can I just ask very quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Isn't what?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
How? And I asked why?

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
What? What is Tapanga doing? Was she just gonna walk
downstairs and chubbies and then leave?

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
No, she was coming to order her own ice cream?

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Is that what it was? She was coming?

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
She was worried he forgot about her. She had to
get out of the house. I'll go get my own
ice cream. And then he has it for and she's like,
oh great, thank you, I can leave.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Now, gotcha? Gotcha?

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Gotcha?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Yeah. Saying accidentally is just a way to soften what
he did, Like it's just him being an idiot, right right?
And I guess just throwing in a word to make
it sound better than it. Did he kiss her?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
He didn't even kiss her kiss him. The only thing
he should take responsibility for is going to He went
to this party tonight, and I kind of knew it
was only a party for me, and instead of leaving,
I stay and she kissed me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Yep, like after I told her twice that I didn't
want to and stopped her from doing it, and then
ran into another room and shut the door.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
And I hid in the closet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
And closet, I mean the really, it's it's a blocking thing.
If if she if they're in the closet after he
hangs up the phone, if she had just sort of
grabbed him and looked at him and he had kissed her,
they met, they made together, if they met together.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Correct, it would he could accident Then he could say
I got caught up. I don't know what I found
myself in about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Totally would have been fine. I think it would have
it would it wouldn't have been It would have been
the same moment, right like coreus is not I don't know,
Like yeah, I think it's a good storyline for him
to because he put himself in a situation. He's flirting
with a girl. He does think she's attractive, he says that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Finally, but is in that case if that had been
the case, I think there wouldn't have ever been a
world where Tapega would then say, well, then we should
stay in this relationship. I think she would say a
relationship is a choice you make where you agree to
be monogamous with your or significant other. And if you
are telling me that when you go to a party

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it might end up happening that you become insource old
and kiss somebody else, you should just be single. There's
nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with being single
and going to a party and kissing something. But if
you're gonna be in a relationship and have a girlfriend,
that's a choice you've made. You know what you give
up when you make that choice. And so in this case,
they really did need it to be that. It wasn't

(01:04:24):
Corey cheating. It isn't the Lauren situation. We address that
later when he actually has a come to Jesus about
their relationship and he cheats on her. They didn't want
that to be this case. So I don't know why
then it isn't presented the way it is. And so
the fact that then he says I accidentally kissed her,
Topanga has a normal reaction, which is, excuse me, how

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do you accidentally kiss someone? Did she slip and your
lips broke her fall. He tells her he feels horrible again.
Now red flags everywhere. To Pega has just been told
she's been cheated on, and he goes, I feel real bad.
You sure are making me feel bad. Gosh, why do
you have to make me feel so bad? Since I
feel so bad anyway, and she like kind of accepts that,

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and her response is, well, what do you think I
should do? I love I love asking that. That's what
parents should do too, by the way, like, wow, well
there was a real you know, there was a choice
made here that I feel like was a bad choice.
What what should the response to the bad choice be?
And he says he hopes it's not what he deserves,
which is a good answer though, yeah, great answer. Also,

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does he fully deserve to be broken?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Well with the way they wrote it? He does. The
way they wrote this, the way he's presenting it exactly.
But no, of course not, he does.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
At the end of the day, he made some bad
choices by not leaving, but he also didn't cheat on her,
so to Pega then Weirdo goes, how did she kiss you?
Because to Pega knows she's got the ensorcelement all she
needs to do is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
In such a weird moment. I did not know what
was happening. I was like, how are they going to
resolve this? I was like, she's going she's him feminine Wiles, Wiles,
I have a question. I have a question.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
And I know this is not what they were planning,
but in my head, what if she was going to
stay with them, but as a bit of a punishment,
she was going to get him sick.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I think so. I think that's part of it. I mean,
that's why, which is also all I could think about.
I was like, oh no, that's gross. That's just getting
him sick. That's all I was thinking. I was like,
you made a reference to being jermy, and that's why
I think. She kisses him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
She's like, I'm gonna forgive you this time, but you're
gonna remember what you did because I'm going to maybe
kill you with strap, right, so I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Going to infect you if in the world post COVID
that's I don't know, man, right, Yeah, did you say
that's hard to swallow? Because that would have been a
great That's what I was gonna say. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Then she grabs him, says was it like this? And
she ensorceles him with the real open mouth guess and
Corey is been sources by the way to peng has
just kissed him. He says he's never been kissed like
that before.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
What what? What? What? What is? It?

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Literallys it was like what.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Penga says, it will be the last time? Have you
ever do that again?

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
And angry who's still situation?

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
And so Panga smiling at him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
It was so weird.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
It was such a weird, like what just happened? It
was like what just what just happened? Everywhere?

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
And they're fine, They're still There're they're still gonna stick
this out, even though they're teenagers who aren't married or
have children with each other. They could walk away at
any point. It's okay to walk away.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
So much better is is had he told her what
kind of happened, what actually happened, I shouldn't have been
And she's like, look, you shouldn't have been down there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
That was your mistake.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Is that the second you walk down there and saw
that it was a party just for the you should
have gotten out of there. No.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
I mean that's that's clear to us as like grown
ups watching the show, but for kids watching the show,
the idea that Corey did something wrong is very murky,
and like clarifying what is actually wrong about this situation
is is kind of helpful, right like, because we're having
a very extensive discussion in this pod cuss about figuring

(01:08:30):
out what it is that went wrong because it's it's
it's tricky, like all of these things are turky, and
so I do think there's a responsibility to a certain
degree for the show to explain what is the wrong,
where the moral line is when it was crossed, and
then for Tapanga to to actually decide whether she wants
to forgive him or not based on what was None

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of that is clarified. It's left intentionally murky, and it's
solved with seduction, right or more sex, which is just weird.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
I'd have ended with a great Topanga line, and it
would have taken it in a whole different way. But
I would have ended with and you know, with Corey
saying something like you know, well what about Missy and
Topanga just going oh, yeah, she and I are going
to have a talk like just something like that, where
it was like, because it was her, she actually was
the engine behind this entire thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
So yeah, the whole thing was just really weird. The
way it was wrapped up, just bizarre.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
People are probably going to be so mad at me
for having this take on it, because I think I
have a feeling this is one of those episodes that
people really like. I don't know, maybe people don't really
like this episode, but I have a feeling this is
one of those things that when you are a kid
and you watch it for whatever reason, you think it's romantic.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
You think it's what's romantic Topanga taking him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Back at the end, like Panga being confident enough to
send him to a party and then for something bad
to happen at that party, and for Tapanga to still
be confident enough that what she's confident in is actually
that Missy doesn't have what I had, right, It's some
special cadard and some special sourcealment power over Corey, and

(01:10:03):
you know, oh, they're meant to be together their kids.
Like that kind of romanticism of like, oh, even when
when tough things come up, these two people can just
overcome it. If you turn the blind eye to horrible
red flags that your relationship isn't what it should be. Weird,
there's something there that I think.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
You liked when you were thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Yeah, that just you get kind of carried away with
the like yet because by the way, you do get
carried away by hormones at thirteen, of course you do
get carried away by exactly what writer is saying, like,
Oh man, I have a girlfriend. I really shouldn't enjoy
this as much as I am. But look, I'm having
a great time. This conversation is riveting. I'm having fun dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
She's sitting argeous.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Press on like you do. Those things do happen. So anyway, uh,
the tag we're in the school hallway, Mister Williams asks
Turner how Phoenie is with this C storyline I almost
forgot in highrely existed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Only two scenes. The other storylines are only two scenes.
Will storylines only two scenes. This one's only two. But
they're good scenes. I like that them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
They're great.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
I like both the B and C storylines on me too.
A Bill's performances so got it all day.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yeah, he wants to know how his bad knee did
at the Walker walkathon, and Turner says, bad knee, who
told you that? Phoene trots down the stairs stairs.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
There's a laugh on the walk just bouncing down the stairs.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
He bounces down the stairs and says, there is nothing
like a ten mile walk. Eli realizes he owes Phoene
five hundred dollars because of his fifty dollars a mile deal.
Phoene gets an ache in his knee and says he better,
I say. Eli asks if Turner can buy him lunch,
and Turner says yeah. Eli clarifies he means all year.

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Then we see Corey is homesick on the couch and
Tapanga calls him from school, says up sounds like he
has the same thing she had, and says he doesn't
think he'll ever get off the couch. Ta Panga tells
him not to worry. She sent something over that will
have him on his feet in no time. And then
Triny walks in the front door ready to help. Now,
is this payback slash a revenge type situation?

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
It will's right, I think that's the best explanation for Like, yeah,
that that, yeah, that that Topanga was resolving the situation
with a kiss, which is weird. Yeah, but that that
also that kiss was double edged and was a way
to get him sick.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Right, so and then I can sick my best friend
on you who's someone you find annoying?

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Yeah, it's payback essentially. Yeah, because I didn't wonder he
learns his lesson. I just yeah, I do think it
would have been nice to clarify, like what what that
lesson is is, like what you know, what is it
about this with yourself in bad situations?

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Which is what he listened to you. I love exactly
what writer said that we are having an in depth
conversation about who is wrong and where and where were
the lines crossed? And these are important conversations to have
as adults as kids, especially because relationships are tricky and

(01:13:13):
social norms are tricky, and not everybody picks up on
social norms the same way. And sometimes you think you
are giving off a sign that you are either uncomfortable,
but if you're not direct enough, someone else may not
read it. And you know, there there is a lot
of room for conflict and very bad things to happen

(01:13:34):
if those aren't just directly talked about. And I think
this episode missed the mark there, and maybe that wasn't
what they were trying to do, And certainly in the
nineties this wasn't as openly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Discussed as Yeah, it is now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Sure, there is a very big spotlight on consent these days,
and I wish there had been a very big spotlight
on consent, you know, years go, but it just wasn't
the same. I mean, I know we've all had private
conversations about times and situations where we've looked back and thought, man,
I didn't ever think of it that way, but I
was definitely trying to tell somebody else no, and they

(01:14:12):
did not see it that way or respect it that way.
And you know, I do think it's we're reading it
from a twenty twenty three lens, and we will probably
get ish for that that like, oh it's so woke,
but being that we are rewatching it in twenty twenty three, yeah,
I think it's really good to be able to say
I actually enjoyed the episode. I despite despite the topanga

(01:14:35):
weird ending stuff. Overall, I like the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Me too, And I like storylines too. I think digging
in and finding layers of complexity that's the most fun part,
and that's what I want to do this podcast. Like
memoir stuff part I love being like, you know, maybe
Tapega did kiss him for revenge and forgiveness, you know, like, oh,
that's cool, and like, I think criticizing it is helpful.

(01:15:00):
You know, for me, a lot of this does go
back to what we noticed at the beginning of the
second season, which is the horny boy point of view
that this show just sort of defaults to. And it's
really interesting for me to see how much the show
relies on that perspective, like this, this is not an
episode about Tapanga's feelings. This is not an episode about

(01:15:23):
Topanga's point of view at all. Like to like go,
there's a lot of complexity given to Cory's point of view, right,
there's a lot of nuance, whereas Tapanga is just a
sort of an angry like, you know, how is she
going to react? Like is she going to forgive me
or not? Is the only question. Her feelings about this

(01:15:45):
are just completely off camera, like they're just not part
of the show. And that's a really interesting sort of
like as a missed opportunity for our show, because Topanga
should She's a big part of the storyline, right, like
and I would yeah, And I think with the Lauren
stuff we do get into that, right I'm assuming yeah,
our show before yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
And this episode I'd like to point out written by
two women.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Interesting, Yeah, that's true. Yes, it just feels very much
like the point of the episode is for Corey to
be conflicted, for for horny Corey to not know what
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
And it's like, okay, yeah, I would love to see
and I get that, maybe it's exactly the same.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
I would love to see the first draft that submitted.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
You're right, yeah, the two women, the draft before it
was written by a room.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Yeah, I would love to assume what it was. Well,
who knows, could have been exactly the same. For the record,
I could have been exactly the same. Yep.

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