TGI – Episode 312 “The Grass is Always Greener” - Pod Meets World

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
I have a little bit of an update for you guys,
very important update. I told you the story of how
I very embarrassingly forced myself into a picture with Richard
Dreyfuss and his wife, and so many of you have

(00:40):
been so kind in coming up to me and telling
me or responding to me on Instagram and saying, oh
my gosh, I'm so glad you have those moments too,
and then sharing with me your ick moments of doing
something super cringey. Well, to take my cringey story one
step further, when we were in the Austin when we
were at the Austin convention, Will and I got into

(01:05):
the car from the airport with Richard Dreyfus and his wife,
and I was so hoping that they did not remember me,
that they didn't recognize me. But nope, that.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Crazy lady who jumped in the photo with us.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
The minute with them the car, Svetlana, Richard's wife, is like,
I remember you. She's so sweet, and she's like, you're
She's telling me how cute I am, and and I'm thinking,
I'm like, oh gosh, she remembers this is awful. Oh no,
they think I'm so weird, So I just don't mention it.
I don't say a single word about it, Like, by
the way, I'm sorry I jumped into that. I didn't

(01:42):
want to just I just wanted to pretend it didn't happen.
And then the next day we arrived at the convention
and they had printed out, yes, the photo for me,
and there they are just so confused, used who is
this girl? Why is she jumping into this photo? And

(02:06):
they signed it for me, which is so sweet. So
now I can frame this picture and I'll remember the
cringey moment. You've got the moment forever. That's one you
were on the left.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, I was just checking to say that. So that
was the fun. That was a fun car ride though,
because we're riding with Richard Dreyfus, who was talking about
Phil Daniels the whole time, how much how much he
loves Bill and how much working with Bill was incredible,
and how he's the consummate actorate was I don't remember
what it was, the.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Graduate Richard Dreyfuss has a very small part.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Part and the graduate okay, but he was just they
were And then I was talking to Bill and Bonnie
about him and they're like, oh, my god, Richard Dreyfuss
is the nicest guy in the world and we love
working It was so cool.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, so he is now the only celebrity I've ever
asked for a picture with.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah because the Jaws, right, Yeah, because of Jaws.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
So in the India is obsessed with Jaws. Like it's
just his favorite movie. He's not only the first one,
He's watched all four of them. Yeah, many, many times.
He's obsessed with sharks. But he really just loves Jaws.
He also loves Spielberg. Like he's now been twice in
kindergarten and then in second grade asked to pick his

(03:19):
hero in life, and he's chosen Steven Spielberg both times
and presented Spielberg to the class. I Meanwhile, everyone else
is doing like they're Dad or Martin Luther King or
Rosa Parks like important, you know. But he's like, this
guy makes movies that I like. But so he's obsessed
with Jaws. So he wanted to come to the He
was coming to the convention and he wanted to be
He wanted to be being eaten by a shark. So

(03:41):
he found one of those inflatable costumes. He whereas has
like his own fan. So it looks like he's being
swallowed from, you know, below by a shark. So he
was walking, he was ready to go to the convention
wearing this shark eating a person outfit. And Alex is like, wait,
I think I have a like a military jacket and
like a little hat that looks exactly like Quint there,

(04:03):
the fisherman who gets eaten and jaws off of the boat.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's like the famous scene.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
And Indy was like, yes, So he put on this
little coat.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And his little hat and we wrote Quint on the
name tag and he came to the convention. And then
when we found out Richard Dreyfus was there, I was like,
I we have we have to ask, and Richard agent
was so nice and was like, hey, we will at
any point, you know, just grab us when when Indie's around.
So sure enough, we like pulled Richard Drevis out of
his like signing booth where he was, and he came

(04:31):
out and he saw Indy and he was like Quint.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
And they took this.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
They took photos together, and then we talked for a
little bit and at one point I said, okay, Indy,
let's go and he's like, wait, wait, what's his name?
Like Indy, He's like, you're a Spielberg monstrosity.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Indie s Dreyfus called you a Spielberg monstrosity.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
That's going on. I love it. He was so he
was so sweet.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Did you they actually did you read?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Not that long ago? Peter Benchley, who wrote Jaws, also
from that The same boy lived in the same town
where when I got married, in Stonington, Connecticut. He came
out saying he never would have written it again if
he had to do it over because so many people
killed sharks after the book came out, because people were
so scared by it that he's like, if I had

(05:20):
to do it over again, I never would have written Jaws,
which is such a shame. But it was based on
apparently on a real thing where he was texts of
nineteen sixteen. Is that what it was? But I think
he also saw some one he saw a huge, a
huge shark. I think, yeah, But I know, I mean, it's.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Like, it's a debatable whether Jaws is based on this,
but I guess in nineteen sixteen there were a series
of shark attacks and what it was. I think there
were bull sharks that were because they can go up
river in fresh water, and so it was like there
were freshwater shark attacks.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
That killed like a couple of people.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
And then yeah, that was like the inspiration, you know,
because suddenly there was all this panic about sharks eating
people that were just swimming.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh yeah, that's great. That's sharks still freaked me out.
And I know that there are. You know, they're probably
very nice. They've got families, they've got jobs, I get it,
very kind, they're very kind people. And they've all got
their own through. Everyone's going through.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Their own Yeah, they're all going through their own stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
You know, they got packed me exactly. But it's they
still the idea that I'm swimming in the ocean with
something that looks at me as if I could be
food that freaks me out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well, the other convention we went to recently was nineties con. Uh,
and the very few sharks at nineties con. There were
there's some some.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Sharks of What's con. So there's some sharks.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I mean, we were in Florida, so they're definitely alligators.
We didn't see any I don't think. Did you say
any I didn't say anything. I didn't see any alligators.
But I took on a very fun role while we
were there, and my role was to let Ryder know
every day what needed to be slightly adjusted in his appearance.

(06:51):
On the first day we were there, Ryder was having
a normal I don't know who he was, I don't
remember who he was talking to, but he was having
a conversation and I walked up to say hello, and
Rider had blood all over his neck, like multiple different.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Part of the reason I have a beard is because
I don't have to shave.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Do you shave with a broken glass bottle that you find?
That's what that was. Like, dude, what happened? You were bleeding?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm like what? And sure enough it wasn't a small
like drop here, drop there. It was like people were concerned, Yeah, yeah,
so what are you shaving?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
He went and cleaned that up. It was It was
a I was like, please, you're not here for cabin fever. Go.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
It was a great cosplay as a person holding on
to life. It was great.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
And then the next day again walked up to say
hello and he had white like cream in his hair.
Whatever product you had been using, chunks.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
There's something about merry moment. What you did that was
actually took a picture of it. I did, and you
showed me the picture of the back of my hair
with like my hair wax product or whatever, like just
all clumped up, and you need to fix this.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Ye, somebody's looking out for me. Danielle keeps us, keeps
us on the straight and narrow. The other thing I've
noticed is anytime you mention anything to Danielle, it doesn't
matter what it is, she will find the product that
suits it and google you to buy it instantly. She said,
link to whatever it is. Conversations.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I had to hear about cars charcoal deodorant because of Danielle,
because she mentioned it on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I know everybody's like, what is that natural? Do you?
I'm like, geez, really, but it doesn't actually be getting
paid by that company.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Like Little Seed Farm charcoal natural deodorant. I'll say it
again because I talked about it once and people do
come up. We put it in our Podmeets World stories once. Well,
the problem with the stories that it disappears after twenty
four hours, so people didn't get a chance to hear
me talk about it. But yeah, so I if you
ever need anything, I just I'll send you the I found.
You know, I can send shopping links for anything. I

(09:03):
am good at shopping. Yes, So anyway to wrap up
this little this story about the cons, special shout out
to Matt Templeton, who is Richard Dreyfus's agent, who was
so kind and bringing Richard over to see Indie every
sweet and got me this copy of this picture, which
I'm so proud to now hang and put on my wall.
Welcome to Podmeets World.

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Speaker 1 (10:18):
Let's jump into our recab. We are here to talk
about season three, episode twelve, The Grass Is Always Greener.
It originally aired January twelfth, nineteen ninety six. The synopsis
Corey is getting bored in his relationship with Tapanga and
decides to go with Sean to another school's party. Corey
is having the time of his life until he finds
out that Tapanga had a similar plan. Directed by Jeff McCracken,

(10:42):
written by Donna Trujillo. Guest starring Jim Janssen. He's back
as doctor Currell. Did not remember him ever coming back,
but really happy to see him. Eric Egan as Brent.
He played young Keyferth Sutherland in Flatliners. Oh, Marisa Theodore
as Tara, and Mina Suvari returns as Hillary. She is

(11:03):
playing a different character than she did in her first appearance.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Who was she in her first appearance? She was she
was the cousin.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
She was cousin, does he split water? Why does he
spit water?

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah? That one, So it could be the same character, I.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Guess no, not yeah in that episode, but she's not
the person who says does he spit water? She's the
cousin of the person who asks why he's spitting water?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
No, she says it too, she says he spits water.
So it could be the same character. She just goes
to a different school. Now she's now we know who
she is.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
True, But didn't she Yeah? I guess wouldn't she.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
On the show, right?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Because I was like she was like a door person.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
For I didn't remember her at all in this episode.
I only remembered her in this spit water episode.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
So, man, this is.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
A weird episode. A weird I have so many weird
thoughts about it. I don't know where to be kidding.
I mean, I just yeah, I thought it was so
bad and then it ripped my heart out, and.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I kind of.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Me I thought the exact same way. I was like,
oh my god. I'm like, as I was writing my notes,
I was keeping a bunch of notes that were like, God,
really this oh. And then I watched it and I
was like, oh man, I'm in.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I am shipping to Penga and Corey. Now, wow, this
is the one it turned. Wow, I disagree.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
I get it too.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Oh man, that ending montage, I was full on feeling
the fields and I.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Was like, oh, makes sense.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
So I literally can't believe. I thought I was going
to be the only person. I thought you guys were
both gonna hate it and I was going to be
the only person. Like, guys, I'm in.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm so worked just trying to this relationship on us.
Oh my god. No.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I needed it to be sad and tragic, and it is,
and it is so on board.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
They needed to get No, no, they keep cutting the
five years together.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
You're so horrible. You're going to get me, man, Okay,
we will get to it.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I could.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I will. You're right, writer, You're right. It's I just
know it's it's it's it shouldn't work.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
And I also think that's part of the reason that
it works for is indicative of why it hasn't worked.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Let me here, let me explain.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
It reduces the.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Relationship to visuals and makes it iconographic, which is what
it needed to be if that makes sense, because it
isn't a developed relationship. It's not great.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
But when you put they put sacks and you see.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Clip some of these kids growing up together, I am in.
I don't want to talk to each other. I don't
want to know the relationship, but I just want.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
To be a beautiful montage of context that makes it works. Okay,
let's you know what, screw it, Let's jump ahead to
the very end here I said. Then a montage of
scenes start rolling of Corey into Panga while All I
Know by Art Garfunkle plays in the background. What the
how much did they pay for Art Garfunkel music? Also,
this is exactly why, from this moment on, we believe

(14:06):
the lie that Tapega and Corey have this incredible and
amazing chemistry and history and love story. But really it's
just a montage of me looking pretty and kissing Corey
with absolutely no context. So you don't remember that I
was actually kissing Corey after he cheated on me, or
that he threw his jacket off me after he bullied
me into saying I loved him.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
But it worked.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I'm sold they belong together.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes, you couldn't have said it better. It's I'm so
on board.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I'm the exact same way I was watching this episode,
but I hate these scenes. I don't want to watch
these people. You are great, actually you're really good acting.
This is like you like arrived as an actor. But
then I was like, I still hate it it all,
and then that montage say.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Reaction, I I you are just Oh god, the both
of you are just are are just montage whores.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
And you know what, Will want music to tell me
what I'm supposed to be. Tell me right now, Violin
swell me, Violin, swell me into into just I have
full body chills.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh god, funny.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I love how it worked for you guys. I think
it's great that it did.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
It was so cheesy and hard, and they took the
four scenes that and they just cut them together and
now they've been together forever.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's like, I, yes, it didn't work, it dumb, it didn't.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
At all for me.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
It wow, I love it. This is exactly why we
do this podcast. Got I'm literally sweating. I have I'm
literally sweating. I this is why we do this because
I want to hear every one of Will's criticisms as
we go, and we probably had the exact same criticisms,
and you.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Both agreed that it's a bad episode up until the montage,
which is also bad.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
It just you guys loved it.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I actually there were so many things I didn't like
about it, and yet I love the idea of two
people in a teenage relationship both pretending to be other
people and such. I mean, really, I really loved you.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Episode of season four where they've actually established the relationship.
Great idea. The second episode where there's actually a couple
really and they're already bored and have to be other people. Like,
let's jump on, stop forcing on me.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Let's jump in. We are in the Matthews living room
to Panga and Amy are crying as they're watching a movie.
To Penga yells man, yeah, man, take her, Trevor, take her.
At the TV A scene with Amy. I have a
scene with Amy at the Matthews house, which I guess
is I'm comfortable here because we have gone on so

(16:43):
many dates. We just haven't gone on any of them
on this TV show. We haven't seen any of them.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, no, you guys had the pool, the pool that
you were teaching. He was teaching you to play pool
was ruined.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
By the love they broke, essentially broke, so that was bad.
The one date they've they've shown ends up bad. Then
they're just married. When you guys were in seven minutes
in heaven or but it's still they're just now married.
We have to accept they are married. They are now
not only married, but we're through their whole relationship and
they're bored.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Right, they're bored. They're already the board, We're already there.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's like we skipped them actually being in a relationship.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
We skipped all that. We just said it happened. Yeah,
So the ladies are patting their eyes with tissues and
Amy says, oh, that's so beautiful. As the movie ends,
Tapanga asks Cory if he enjoyed the movie, but Corey
is asleep on the couch. Topanga has to nudge him
to wake him up, and he tells and she tells
him he's drooling. Corey says, no, I was crying through
my mouth. Tapanga suggests he just goes upstairs to watch
the game with his father if he's bored. Corey responds

(17:44):
with anyone can watch a Super Bowl, right, it takes
a special man to watch a classic like this, So
it's the super Bowl, it's not just a game.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
He's missing the super Bowl to watch the things and
Alan is upstairs with the little TV super Bowl Morgan,
I guess more apparently, why Rusty's not in this episode?

Speaker 1 (18:02):
No, he had finals. He had ye so many finals
so far, He's.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Got must have three PhDs by this point. What do
you think was Rusty getting other work?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Is that what was happening? Because he must have been
a series, right, He must have been getting other work.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
He had to be, because why would they have written
him out. They wouldn't have. My guess is he they? Yeah? They.
I'm guessing he had other things to do because he
was working all the time, and I'm getting by the
season three, he probably wrote that into his contractor was like, Hey,
if I get something else, you gotta let me go,
and they do because they respected him so much as
an actor. I was like, all right, go. You know,
he's doing Briscoe County and a whole bunch of other
things by this point, so I think he was. He

(18:36):
was probably doing something else.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well. Then Eric walks in and asks Cory if that's
what he is a special man. He then lifts Corey
in a fireman's carry up over his shoulder and tells
Amy he's saving a life and carries Corey into the kitchen.
Eric is also not watching the super Bowl with his
dad or you came down from downstairs in the.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Kitchen, but I'm doing an intervention into Corey for some reason.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
So good in this episode, will Oh, you are fun obviously,
so comfortable and casual. And I did notice it was
a Jeff McCracken episode.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
And you are.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
You are so solid and so strong and so funny
throughout this entire episode. Really good episode for you. So
then now we're in the Matthew's kitchen. Eric says to Corey,
you and to Pega spent the last three Friday nights
at home tearing up at chick flicks.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
So it's supposed to be Friday night that they're watching
this one.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
So the super Bowl Sunday tonight, Friday night.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Okay, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Perfect? Perfect. I'm glad we are all on board. We're
all on the same page here, continuities are friend. So
Corey responds, excuse me, last Friday night, if you recall
to Panga and I spent a lovely evening at home
watching no TV whatsoever, and Eric tells him, yeah, you
made jam Corey corrects him by saying it was actually Preserves,
and then he reveals couple's magazine, which is where they

(19:50):
got the Preserves recipe, and he says he lied and
said that he was married so he could get a
subscription discount worth noting the couple on the cover of
this are two sent.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
There are people have been around since it was old.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
We're older than the mom from Munchies from Rosa's Mom older.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I remember this line because I remember this is one
of the ones that kept. I don't know if ever
you have ever had these, but they ring in your
head because you can't get either the emphasis or the
cadence right. And so we're supposed to say, no, you're
an old boring couple, but I say old boring couple,
old boring like they it's And I remember as I'm recording,

(20:36):
I remember, as we're shooting, going why can't I get
the cadence right, old boring.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Cup like it?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's if you old boring couple, like all of them
are at the same level, it's really weird. So I
remember that specifically as I don't think old boring couple.
But I didn't.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Old no, it was just because.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
It must have just been in my ears because it
was it just kept ringing. You'd have to adjust your TV.
That's the proper way to say it, though, TV call
your television television of the TV's Are you having a
good August Rider having a good.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
This is weird?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
This is weird, Like this is this episode gets so
weird when you compare it with the Wendy episode, like
when you go back to that whole storyline where she
was crazy and now it's like this whole episode and
we talked about it when we watched that episode. It's
so strange that the Corey to Panga dynamic, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
So here's the thing. So I don't want to harp
on this the entire episode, So I'm gonna just say
this out loud. Now, this is not a bad episode
if you don't care that they have not established the
Corey Topanga relationship at all. If you're fine with just
going I'm being told that they're together. We are now
being told that they're together. They've been together so long

(21:58):
that it's now boring. If you're okay with not seeing
any of that it's actually not a bad episode, or
if you're okay with it just being a montage, which
I think I am, Like, I'm not okay with being
forced this relationship yet to where it's like we haven't
the stuff we've seen you like the show has established it.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
The show hasn't heard absolutely this relationship being the central
love of core.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Correct And if you have your fully agree, I've been in.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Agreement every step of the way.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
But the montage got me and I'm just a sucker
for a good montage. And like, so again, that's why
it broke my heart to see you guys how young
you were. That's like going back through to me and
realizing how much you had changed. It was like it's
like the movie Boyhood, you know, just there's something that
works about seeing that in rapid succession where you go, oh,

(22:46):
this is it's it's I've been there, I've been along
for this journey, and so it creates the false past.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Correct, And you were okay with the false past and
I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
And that's just that that was the difference. So I
can get why.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
People would we just get to give it up there
in a relationship if you just accept they're in a relationship,
and then it's not that bad an episode. So I
want to say that blanket statement. I get that if
you accept they're in a relationship, it's actually not that
bad an episode. I don't think it's been earned, and
I do not accept that they're that it's there yet.
That's I also think.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
The episode's not great for other reasons too, like well, yeah,
I mean actually there, Yeah, it's a weird episode.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well, I would like to say that in this scene,
I don't gather anywhere that Corey has a problem with it.
The whole episode ends up being that Corey's like, I
don't know, man, I'm in a rut. But like, other
than the fact that Corey was asleep during the movie,
he seems to look he loved making preserves. He's into
the muffins.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I know.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
It's the fact that his brother tells him what you're
doing is boring, and then Sean's you know, but really
he's actually.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Perfectly happy, because again he's always been the old man.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, and where Corey ends up is exactly this, So
it does seem like he's discovered part of himself and
everyone else is just telling him that there's something wrong.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
That there's something wrong with that kind of the point
like that, yes, that he should get broken up with.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
And they shouldn't pretend to be other people. You were
living as Sean, when living as Corey does mean Friday nights,
baking preserves and muffins.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Be yourself and the true leve will find you is
basically I think what the message was. Yes, so, at
least in a montage for him.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Corey says he and too Panga have been going out
for five months and in their circle they're considered young
and hip on que we here Tapega yell from the
other room, huh, how are the muffins doing? And Corey
responds back saying I'll stick a fork in them. Hun.
Eric grabs the fork and points it at Corey, saying,
go near that oven and I'll stick a fork in you.
Corey says you wouldn't, and Eric responds that he'd be
doing him a favor. Corey tells him to stop being

(24:40):
such a Wisenheimer, and then he asks who said that,
and Eric said you did, Pops, So I guess Wisenheimer
is suddenly where he realizes who become.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I've lost control of Yes, yes exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Then we're in the school hallway. Corey is running through
the hallway up to the lockers, and he asked Sean
to tell him about his weekend. He wants to know
if he went on a lot of dates. He wants
all the details. You're wearing a real like seventies vibe
out fit. I know it's seventies, but also like this
whole episode feels very swingers.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
It doesn't. I will say this though, writer, and it's
something we mentioned on a I think a previous rewatch.
You mentioned that you felt that you had kind of
a lack of energy.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Of sad writer. Here, I wrote, sad writer, and you
know what I felt it here? I had been dumped.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I had been you remember, now, this was no This
was the.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Episode that I talked about where I had the double
the two dates. Oh my, this is Minaris here. So
this is the episode where I was. I had been
dumped probably you know, a month before by Marie. Oh okay,
I was so devastated. And then this was this episode
when the tape night was when I started dating again.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Oh my god, Because you did you seem like you
were kind of either playing it cool or it was
kind of probably of cool. Too, because I had two
dates at this tape night. Right wait, okay, wait very briefly,
because I think he told that at one of our
live shows. But you have told our dear listener about
this what happened. Okay.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
So I had a huge crush on Mina Soar during
this episode and we hung out the entire week. She
pre taped all of her seats.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
On Wednesday, and so she wasn't going to be there
gone Thursday tape.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
I said, you should come to the new night, like
make it like a thing, like you come to the
tape night. We'll hang out, we'll go out afterwards probably,
you know. And so she decided to come back and
had her mom drop her off because.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
She was still under age. We were sixteen.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Her mom drop her off for the tape night.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Meanwhile, David Combs invited Rachel Rachel Rachel Lee Cook as
a blind date for me. He had been had not
really blind ed. He had been telling me, like, you
and Rachel are really going to like each other. I'm
gonna because he had worked with her on Tom and Hawk,
and he was like, I'm gonna invite Rachel.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
And so sure enough, on.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Tape night, I had two women that I was interested in,
and I was literally running from from hanging out with
me and on the front of the set to the
back of the set where Rachel was hanging out and like,
and I finally just reached a point where Mina could
tell something was going on and she was just like.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I'm gonna leave and my mom's gonna come pick me up,
and she's.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Like, but I ended up dating Rachel for like a
year and a half, so it worked out.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
But yeah, oh, that's so funny.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
It was crazy, Like I told the story during a
live show and Will it was a two truth and
a lie game and you totally didn't believe that this
actually happened. That I was like, faulty towers, ain't it
between two dates?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
But yeah, tape night brilliant.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
But anyway, so that was what was going on during
this tape night. But I definitely like, because now we
can locate because I think I said it when we
were doing the Little Corey Wait, yeah, the big episode.
But I seemed off and sad. I think that's probably accurate.
That probably was when I got the downfall, Yeah, and
then I would be like really sad for the next
month or two or whatever until this night when yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I love it, I love it ninety great hmmm. So uh.
Sean laughs and says, who counts six? And Corey says,
tell me like your life depended on it. Sean looks
at Corey and says, I'm no rocket scientologist.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
We've said. I still say this, dude, I literally still
say this. So I thought it was something that I
had created. I had no idea I stole it from
you from the show. I still to this day say
I'm not a rocket scientologist. But yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's a good one. Corey explains his life doesn't have
to be in a horrible, boring rut to ask how
Sewn's weekend was, and then he begs, throw a bone
to your buddy. Sean gasps and says, no, you doubled
with your folks. Again, Corey clarifies, no, that was only
on Friday and Saturday. On Sunday, it was just him
and Tapanga at the mall. And then the audience woos

(28:52):
for the mall, as if being at the mall alone
is sexy. But then it works without the woo. The
joke of she bought me slacks doesn't really work like
it's almost like thank god the audience wooed because then
there was the turn of she bought me slacks and
then it gets a laugh.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Well, isn't that what happened on tape nights, that the
audience would start to know their their like, so I
bet you this is like second or third take where
they knew that the joke was coming so they said
it up with us.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, right, because I.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Remember that would happen and you could see me sort
of waiting for the wu like you could see it,
and I felt like the audience was kind of.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
It was strangely at the time, it's like, oh, the
mall is sex.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
The mall is so sexy, I know. So Sean tells
Corey he thinks he has a problem, and Corey thinks
so too, but Sean says Corey's in luck. He asks
Cory what am I the world's biggest expert on and
Corey looks confused and says, really not anything. I mean,
what about languages.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Right, pig rearing. Yeah, there's plenty of things.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
So Sean points at him and says, I do know
a lot about love, and it sounds to me like
you and Tapanga are in a slump. Corey tells him, no,
they're terrific. It's just him. He's lost his edge. He
says he's just not the same old dangerous Corey, and
Shawn sarcastically tells him he's right, there's been talk about it.
Sean reveals he got a special invite to a dance
at Hamilton High and asks Corey to come with him
and to wear his new slacks. Cory's is a party

(30:18):
at another school could be just what he needs. Then
he realizes he has plans with Topanga tonight. Sean says,
change them. Tell her you need a night out with
the boys. Sean looks over and tells Corey that Tapanga
is actually right across the hall. He can tell her
right now. Cory says, oh, this isn't going to be easy.
The key is to be direct and vague, yet obvious
and subtle. Line so funny, great line. Tapega walks up

(30:39):
to Corey and says hi. He looks at her and smiles,
then turns to Sean and says, I can't go. I
thought it was also really funny and cute. Your hair
is so long. This is horse hair.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's just like it is, so it's the whole, the
whole frame, Like I funny, you just can't take your
eyes off of it.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's just so long, Yeah, a glorious mane of horse
horse hair. So she says that she knows they have plans,
and she asks if they can reschedule. She says some
of the girls are getting together, and Corey puts his
finger on her lips and says, don't speak. He tells her,
if you need to get together with the girls of
your gender, I completely understand. Mm hmm to bang. A

(31:25):
nudges Corey and asks if he's been reading Couple's magazine,
and Corey says he took the quiz on the back
ninety five ninety five to fegus miles and kisses him
before she walks away, and Sean looks at Corey and
wants to know, ninety five is that your age or
your score? So I just wanted to know what he
got wrong.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I don't know why all those going through my head
is like what did he get wrong? Make you guys
notice my notebook? Is this this.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Drafty brightness.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Right across it? Man, And then it has the face
that I used to just draw.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I remember that the eyes and the hair guy's in
the hair. Yeah, so it's drafty bred and that. I
wonder what else.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
I couldn't really, but I was definitely like, oh, I
thought for sure you guys were noticing because my hand
open between me and.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Ben Rock, you passed the shiny locks of my hair
I couldn't see.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, I'm clearly like, try to show off strafty bright.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, Oh that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I love that peaks. This is peak Danielle's hair and
probably peak drafty bright. Then if you're trying to make
it work, yeah, I'm trying to sell it.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I really peaked like in life at like sixteen, we're
inching close to like I'm never going to be cooler
than I am right now. Like I'll be able to
see it in an episode. I'll be like, that's it. That's
the moment where I peaked in life.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Absolutely, me too. Yeah, we're still very much on the
upswing got I got, I got tons ahead of me, baby,
not even close.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
That is true. That's the way to the way to
think of it. Let's see. So then we're in the
school hallway. Mister Turner runs out of his classroom to
catch up with air Eric. He wants to talk about
his paper on of Mice and Men again. I know,

(33:05):
and you guys are making each other love.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh yeah, totally making love up, totally cracking each other up.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Mister Turner says he has some serious questions about it,
like where is it, and Eric responds saying, I can't
find the book anywhere. I've been to every pet store
in the city, and at first I didn't get it.
I was like, I don't get this joke. And then
I was like, oh, once you said you found a
pamphlet on land turtles, I realized, oh, you think of
Mice and Men as a book about an animal, and
so I'm going to a pet store. Got it. So

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mister Turner says he'll do Eric a favor. He'll lend
him his copy. Eric takes the book and hands Turner
the land Turner Land Turtle's pamphlet, hoping that that'll suffice.
Mister Williams arrives and asks Eric how his journalism project
is going, and Eric responds in what mister Williams says,
in journalism, you're supposed to analyze the evening news. Eric
tells him he did it, and he puts his arm
around mister Williams shoulder and says, walk with me.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Let's love that. Come on.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
I analyze it for exactly right now.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I just remember working with all the adults and this week,
and I didn't remember much of the storyline. I just
remember it was like I felt like I was with
the adult actors total, you know, so it was like, oh,
you're grown.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
But like they were like, why do they have to
add another teacher because they needed somebody to be terrible.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Remember we talked about that last time.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
But I wish like Eli had more to do, and
of course, you know, because he doesn't. He's just kind
of one of the like end up giving the chemistry
teacher more of a storyline. And this this just feels forced,
like to force all four teachers into this situation with you,
it was like a little.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Two of them.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
It could have this could have been enough, you know,
but now we got to get Fieni and the chemistry.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
It's like I just remember it being like, oh, I'm
one of the adults though, like that was cool to me.
It was well, not only one of them. You're running
the scenes like it was cool keeping it going.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
You're you are so good and so funny in it.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Uh so, mister Feenie then shows up and sees Eric. Oh,
mister Matthews, very interesting essay on Joan of arc. Eric
thanks Phoene for finally giving him a little appreciation around here,
and then Phoene says he doubts that ark meant that
Joan was from Arkansas though, and Eric says it's a theory,
and Phoenie tells him it's an f Eric asks why
they can't all just cut him some slack? And I
want to listen to this read here. I pulled the

(35:20):
sound clip.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Why can't you guys just cut me some slack?

Speaker 4 (35:24):
What is your best Jerry side?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
This is doing your Seinfeld impression. I think you were
doing intentionally to make Tony laugh.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yes, I was Tony and I would do that stuff
all the time, just to throw each other off.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
So yeah, you call me some slack, call me some sluck.
I love it. I was like, we have to play
that for everybody. It's so good, so funny. And then
doctor Surrell, wearing a lab coat and looking like two
kids stacked on top of each other, he walks up
and tells Sean not to bother, showing up to chemistry anymore.
He should just blow something up at home and bring
it in. I did not expect this guy to come back.

(36:01):
Does he ever appear again? Like, is this going to
be a Darlene Vogel situation where we vague remember him.
I don't know, but maybe it could end up being
that he has more of a right to host this
podcast than I do.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
So I just well, one more, one more episode in
a montage, and he can just be with Tipanga.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
So that's not a problem at all. So Eric thanks
doctor Sorel telling his telling him he's a man among men.
Eric excuses himself from the group of teachers and tells
them he has Sarah mix. This is something you and Tony, Tony.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
And I and you could see Tony totally losing it,
losing it. He does the kind of huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
We Turner asks if he means ceramics, and Eric says, yeah,
the ashtray class.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Tony and I still do that.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
It's so great. You guys still laugh about it. It's
and you will you you look like you're going to
break through it to absolutely. It's very funny. Once you know,
once you know that that's what you you look like
like our audience will totally see it and then we'll
be like, oh, wow, that it.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Really does look different. I can start to pick it out.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, Sophine, talking to the other teacher, says, you know
what scares me, He'll end up making more money than
any of us. Sad sad truth about about teacher salaries.
So then we're in the Matthew's kitchen. Eric runs down
the stairs and tells Amy, Mom, hold my calls tonight,
I'm going to be studying. Amy tells him she needs
to get her camera. Eric says he's serious. He has
his pencils and notebook and refreshment. Amy smiles and asks

(37:24):
where are your books? Eric says he either left them
in his locker or on the bus. Amy corrects him
he doesn't take the bus, and he says, well, then
they're safely in my locker. But when I do, without you, mom,
And he starts to walk out the door wearing a
new leather.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Leather one stick around no.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Idea, Yeah this one looks like a New York taxi
driver jacket.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah. I don't know what that is, but yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Also, is this the most stupid Eric has ever been
in the in any like? This is just yes.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I think.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
We did the mouse Brain episode that's where we like
went ridiculous with it, and so I think this is
just continuing that trend.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
But they're also now very slowly starting to turn Sean
way more clever and girl oriented and Eric more stupid,
so that we're officially starting to grab our roles at
this point, right right.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Because I guess it's already been a I mean, it
was established pretty early on that Sean was a ladies man.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Right right, but he was also the dumb one too,
and now they can't they realize they eventually you just
can't have two, right, So it's like, you know, especially
when they're Rusty's not on the show, that it's like,
you know, they're taking characters out, they're adding your characters
doing this. It's like, we can't have everyone be dumb,
so we're gonna take their roles and go from there.
They want you to take the roles.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Then we're in Turner's apartment. Sean answers the door and
Corey walks in. He needs help picking out what to
wear for this other school party. Corey pulls out his
first shirt. It's a blue flannel. Sean says, it's fine.
Corey asks Sean if he likes it better than the
second option, which he reveals to be a blue flannel
that looks exactly like the other one.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I saw this joke coming one hundred miles away, and
it was still funny.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
It's still funny, still good. Sean says, they're both great.
Everything you have is fine. They're all very you. Cory says,
that's the problem, Sean, Everything I own is me. It
ain't cutting the djon And I was like, oh, yeah,
I know this show, the show with the guy who
thinks he's just boring and the same all the time
and never gets into any hygjinks. At least now in
where we are in this episode, it makes sense, he says,

(39:30):
he's just making preserves. At least it fits yep, at
least it fits there. Sean says, maybe it's not Corey.
He asks if everything is cool between him and Topanga.
Cory says, yes, he loves her, she's the best. It's
not Tapanga, it's him. Corey doesn't know what his problem is.
Still concerned with his wardrobe, Sean tells Corey he can
borrow something of his. He offers a jacket or a hat,
Cory says he'll take the jacket. He's very prone to
hat heead sometimes he gets it without even wearing a hat.

(39:53):
And then or the jacket, isn't it it is, it's
the jacket hold on to.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
So now Corey's got I had no memory that he
wore it, and obviously becomes the thing like you know.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
But as this was happening, I was like, what what Cory?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Where everybody was now in the jacket?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yes, we got.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Corey puts on Sean's jacket as they head out the door.
And now we will see if Corey gets the riz
from the jacket. I think he's going to And then
we're in the school hallway. Eric is walking to his
locker when he hears something coming from one of the classrooms.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Showing up at school at night all.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
The time, the school isn't locked and everyone's got a
key or he's.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Pre Columbine, so yeah, yeah school probably we're a little
more open.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
But but your man, that's that's nuts. I mean, it happens.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah. So Eric is walking to his locker when he
hears something coming from one of the classrooms. It's mister Turner,
Phoenie and mister Williams and doctor Currell sitting at a
table playing poker. Eric walks in and says, so this
is what happens at faculty meetings, and Phoene says, just
on Mondays, this is our weekly game. We don't play
for money. We talk, We relax and try to forget.
There's such a thing as students. I like that they
have to fit out, like get out. In one full sentence,

(41:06):
it's not illegal, it's not about money. It's you know,
so that the teachers we know and love are not
in any way slandered, and we'll paint all the slander
on the doctor who's only around a little bit.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I guess quick question to Will's point, why we had
to have this extra because we couldn't have it be
one of the main Okay, I can't.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
You can't have that. You can't have a main cast
be that.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
But so it's supposed to be Monday, So then the
night before is that when he was hanging out with Tapanga.
Was that then supposed to be Super Bowl Sunday? So
then it wasn't the Friday that he said it was Friday.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
That that does make sense, actually that his point is
the last three Fridays. He's not saying that today is
necessarily a Friday, just that the last Fridays.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
So then Corey and Sean are going to the normal
Monday night school dance.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Obviously you have a big school party on a market. Okay,
just making sure we're all on the same page. You
don't care about school when you're a kid, you know. So,
Eric says, Oh, they don't play for money, even Doctor Cerell.
Doctor Cerell says there's no need to. With finals around
the corner, he's sure to have fresh cash rolling in.
And I actually, I know, like, I love that we

(42:14):
get to have a super seedy character whose entire identity
is just that he's openly unethical.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I kind of like it.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I like it too. I love it. I think it's
really funny because, like we've said, when when you're talking
about steaks on a kid show, you have to like everybody,
you know. You can't be like, oh, that teacher, that
feinny guy is openly unethical. He takes money from students.
But this guy who only pops in here and there
he does. I think it's really great. Eric asks if

(42:40):
he can join them in unison. They all say no.
Eric says he'll make a deal with them. He plays
until he loses, then he'll go home and study. He
asks as teachers, how do you argue with that? Mister
Feeney size and says he needs the grades deal him in.
Teachers are bummed, but Eric pulls up a chair, and
then we're at the Hamilton High Monday night party. Dan

(43:00):
American Sean get to the front of the line at
the party, and the door girl American Beauty and American
Pies Mina Souvari asks for their Hamilton High ID card.
Corey tells her they go to John Adams, but Sean
says they should be on the guest list Sean Hunter.
The girl blushes and says, oh wow, Sewan Hunter, but
she's looking at Corey. She says they heard he was

(43:21):
coming and gives Corey the wristband. She thinks he's Sean.
She motions motions to the real Sean and calls him
the guest. The girl says her name is Hillary and
that she won't be stuck at the door all night.
She asks Corey aka Sean to save her a dance.
Corey looks shocked as the girl holds his hand. Sean
speaks up, saying you Betty will right Sean. Corey is
about to explain himself to Hillary, but Sean pushes him

(43:43):
away before he can tell her the truth. Corey looks
at Sean and says, that girl thinks I'm you. He
says they have to set her straight or else word
will spread that Corey is Sean Hunter.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
If Sean's mojo just the jacket, jacket, of the jacket,
it's not my about.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Eric was a ladies man.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
When Eric was a ladies man, when he had the jacket,
and then he loses the jacket and starts to become
done and has it's everything.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, yeah, the jacket is the riz.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
So somebody out there right now, let's find out who
the biggest player is out in the world right now,
and that's your jacket. That's who has your jacket exactly. Wow,
Sean's got quite the reputation too, travels from school, I
mean from school to school to school as the ladies man.
That's impressive.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, well, Sean doesn't care. But Corey tries explaining if
people think I'm you, but he gets cut off by
two girls looking over at him. They're giggling and waving
the jacket is working. Sean smiles and pats him on
the back, saying, let's go Sean. The boys walk into
the party and there's a poster on the wall saying
Jungle tonight, Hamilton High eight pm.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Jungle.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, there's nothing jungle themed there is.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Well again, have you spent a Monday night in the jungle,
because it's actually very accurate.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Dance in the jungle on a Monday night. This is
what it looks like. I get it. I get it
now now that you say that, you're right. I've never
been in the jungle on Monday night.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
So these party scenes were some of the most depressing
things to watch I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
I've never like it.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Just it just made me sad in like a deep
soul way, Like we have to explain a little bit
about how awful they are. There is no music music,
and then afterwards it is usually the longest scene of
the day by the amount of time it takes to
set up the background actor action, and the amount of

(45:38):
time you are yelled at for there to be more dancing,
bigger moves, more, Come on, keep it up, keep up
the energy.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Energy energy energy.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Gosh, they're painful, they're painful to watch these scenes. I
can remember them so vividly, and it's it's.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
But I also think there's something sad about this party
even visually. Like obviously we have our associations with our
but I'm wondering if our listeners also just feel like
this this party.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Maybe let us know if you think this party feels sad.
At least it's a Hamilton High party, not a job.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
It's funny the way, because I didn't feel that way
about the dance party like in season two with Ingrid
withn Tanya, like rat like a full feel about it
or something decorated.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
It was just better. This is like this is also
lyrikes me sad.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
And for some reason it's really left side loaded.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Really yeah, Like half of the party is like in
full swing and then there's kind of the right side,
which they just went now just stats everybody. It's like
they're on a plane and it's tipping this way, so
they threw everyone. It was very strange to why.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Well, everyone's dancing sadly. As Ryder points out and Shawn
and Corey run in, Sean grabs Corey's shoulders and says, okay,
as far as anybody at this party knows you are
Shawn Hunter. Corey responds, No, that's just one girl at
the door who thought I was you. That's it, just
one girl. Then four girls show up behind them, looking
at Corey and saying hi, Sean. Corey looks at them
in shock. One girl smiles and says hi. Sewn whispers

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to Corey, somebody's talking to you. These girls look like
they're someone's daughter from the writing staff.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Are they? Why did you?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Why do we both think of that? They're young? They're young.
They're younger than the rest of the background actors. They
don't look like typical background actors that would have been
cast in the role of I'm gonna lure to Corey, Nope,
they're not. No, they're background actors. They don't other than
the one girl says Hi, she's credited, but the background

(47:40):
actors are absolutely And then I wondered, is one of
them maybe Howard Busgang's daughter.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I'm not sure, but I just was like, this is
somebody's child. At least one of those girls is not.
This is someone's child. I once child.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I had the same thought.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, but maybe Corey waves to the flirting group and says, oh, hi,
pretty girl, a pretty girl. The main girl responds impressed.
Only Sean Hunter can pull off a line like that.
Sean looks at Corey and asks, so, how did it feel? Sean? Also,
this is the first time where I was like, oh,
my gosh, they've been dating for five months and Corey
is already chomping at the bit to be with somebody
other than to Panga. This is where I was in

(48:23):
my you know, nasty little noteway, being like, come on,
this is not that's right cram into a season. Yeah, yeah,
it's weird.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
It is so weird. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It
hasn't been earned yet. This is this is not we
we shouldn't. The problem with a bunch of the Corey
Topanga episodes are none of them seem to be in
the like like they just keep jumping years where it's like,
you know, oh, this is an episode that should have

(48:55):
been done at the end of season two. Oh, this
is an episode that should have been done at the
end of the season four. This is an episode that
we've talked.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
About, I mean sitcom in general, but especially Boy Meets
World and Girl Meets World is really the there's a
lot of telling you who people are and who relationships
are rather than showing you. That's just the nature of.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Like, yes, but some of them, but our show yes,
because I mean.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Actually doesn't break the law get into trouble that much. Right,
You're just told that he's a bad guy, Sean is
a ladies man. But you almost you know, you just
hear about it.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
You don't really see it, right dates Right, It's.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Enough though, But it's also one of those things where
if it's going to become the crux of your show,
if Ross and Rachel is the crux of your show,
you develop Ross and Rachel, right, I mean that's you
want to watch Ross and Rachel become Ross and Rachel.
You don't do an episode where they're they're hey, they've met,
now they've kissed, Oh my god, they're together, and then
the next episode they've been together for seven months. It's like, no,

(49:51):
I don't want to see that. I want to see
them develop as Ross and Rachel. Even if you do it.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Over three episodes and then call that seven five months
or something. But we've seen like one date, really.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
And then you disappear for six episodes and another it's
like it's just it has it and this is again,
I don't want to harp on the overall note, but
it just hasn't been earned yet, and I feel like
they're forcing us to Nope, they're married, now, deal with it.
And it's like, I agree with you with that. You're
okay until art Garfunk will start. That's right, our.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Garfuncle hooks me. So he says there's something exciting about
being Sean, and Sean responds, now you understand my Monday
morning smile. Sean says, tonight, it's all Corey's Tomorrow he
can go back to being his every day lack luster boor,
and Corey inter reps. He says he gets it. Sean
says Corey should go check out those little ladies over there.
Corey does. He pops the collar on Shawn's leather jacket,
puts two thumbs up in the air, and he says hey.

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Sean pulls him away, asking what he's doing. Cory says
he was doing sewn. Sean corrects him, that wasn't me,
that was Ponsie Bonsie. Another little happy days reference we get.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Corey, I ever saw happy days in my life, So
every non we'll do it, we'll go, We'll do it
a happy day's night.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Corey looks stumped, saying this is trickier than he thought.
Sean tells him he's trying too hard. He gives him advice, saying,
just relax and be myself. Cute line. He tells Corey,
don't do anything. Cory says, so you're telling me the
key to being Sean Hunter is doing nothing. Just by
sitting at this table with my armsholded, girls are going
to come up and ask me to dance. And right
as he does it, Ar grabs him and says, Sean,
let's dance. Sean looks at Cory, sticks his two thumbs

(51:26):
up and says hey in his Fonzie impression and celebration.
And then we're back at the John Adams Faculty meeting
aka card game. Phoene puts down his cards and announces,
I have three aces. Beat that, mister Matthews Eric size
and says, darn, I only have two jacks and a
ten and another jack and another ten. I went again.
He laughs maniacally at Phoeney, did either of you guys

(51:47):
ever play cards with the cast or crew? Or just
like play cards anyway, magic.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
I mean we talked about I got into magic and
then I got into poker at the same time like
everybody in America did, right.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Which I think it was a little later.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, oh yeah, Tony and I do. Tony and I
would play regular five card draw together. I mean, not
for money or anything, but we said there we usually
ended up having fights with the poker chips more than
we did right game.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah, you guys would hit each other on the head
with the poker chips.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
It was fun, so fun, so make sure just love it.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
It's so of course. So then he says he has
two jacks and two tens and then another jack, so
he has a full house. Tight, that's right, Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, mister Williams looks at Eric and says he knows
he's cheating. He just can't figure out how. Eric says,
mister Williams's words have soiled him. Why can't they just
believe Eric Matthews is good at something? And then doctor
Cerell chimes in and tells Eric to get off his
high horse. They know he's cheating. When he finds out how,
they'll talk. And this is definitely where I agree with
Ryder's point, they couldn't even come up with a different
thought for doctor Cerel to have. He just repeats what

(52:44):
mister Williams has already said. That they know he's lying,
and Phoene says, gentlemen, please Annie app the Soonery loses
the scenery studies at Home Away from Us. We're back
at the Hamilton High party. Everyone is dancing really bad dancing,
I mean big, but.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
There's also one person doing She's like just up and down,
like it's like pupp.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Happen by.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
I literally was watching this scene and I was like,
I have PTSD.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Just watching gave me like existential sadness. I was just like, wow,
end it now. I can't go on, I can't do
this anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Please please end the day now. Oh my god, this is.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
For me. Is this scene just over and over and
over again.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Boy? The camera pans to Corey. He's dancing with three
new girls, and he gives Sean another thumbs up. Sean
thumbs up and back and smiles. Corey finishes dancing and
tells the girls, okay, remember that is now our song.
They smile and walk away.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Sean comes up, this is where I wrote some down
something that like, I know we're hard on on boy
Mes World, and we get a lot of ish for it.
But one thing I will say that I probably we
don't comment enough on is how funny our show is,
like actually witty line by line, the cleverness this episode

(54:08):
is not that funny, Like I didn't find I was
And it was right here where I realized what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (54:15):
What is off?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
And I was like, it's not a funny episode, Like
the individual jokes are just not that good.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Like the line by line.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I was like, it's it lost boy me to wear
for the first time, didn't hold up that end of
the bargain for me, Like there's you know, we can
criticize the approaches to character or story like we do
all the time, but pretty much it's consistently a very
funny show. And this episode for me was not funny.
Like and this scene was where I really hit me.
I was like, just the like back and forth and

(54:45):
like the French Girls, it just wasn't funny.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I was like, yeah, also, this a storyline is not funny.
I thought the scene in the hallway with Eric and
the teachers like that had a lot of really funny
funny moments and but you're right that like in the
story line, because it's also even if the writing were different,
like trying to find more jokes seeing Sean be an

(55:07):
incredible wingman and encouraging Corey on, Corey would have had
to be so flailing, like such a due bo that
in order to make it funny, and then it wouldn't
have felt like our show. It would have felt slapsticky, like,
because the whole point is he didn't really need to
change himself too much. I mean, the truth is, all
he did was put on a leather jacket exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Take the name.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
So there is and and it's leading to a bigger thing.
The montage.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Well, that's what it comes to.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
I think this is just a drama episode. A storyline
was to break up Corey into Penga.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
All right, because we have so earned their relationship.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Here's the other thing. First of all, Danielle, if you
thought I was going to let Duibo go by without
mentioning something, you are sadly mistake.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
And the second thing is, are you Wisenheimer?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Yeah exactly, douiebo wise And I found something very kind
of jarring about the cutting back and forth from the
A storyline to the faculty storyline. They weren't cutting, There
weren't any outs to the scene. It was just like
there'd be part of a scene and then you'd cut
to the next thing, and then they'd be part of
the scene, then you'd cut to us playing cards again.

(56:14):
It wasn't like they weren't ending on a button.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
They weren't end Just the whole poker storyline is just
kind of a nonsense. It's not really a story. It's
like you show up and you're really good at poker
and then they're mad about.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
It, and that's.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Anything.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
What are you going to do? Least make it funny,
and you just make it so funny that it's like
it doesn't matter that there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
But it's it's very I thought the cutting back and
forth between the two, well.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
It's it's as if their story when there's no story,
like until Tapanga shows up, there is no story so far,
like this is just him being shot, like nothing changes
in this scene, like this scene.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Very yeah, it's very it's very duebo.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Well. Well, Sean comes up to Corey and asks how
he's doing. Corey says, the reviews are in. We are
a hit. Sean responds, I know I saw. Corey says,
it's not just about the girls, it's the way he's
feeling tonight, not knowing what's going to happen. It's so exciting.
Corey thanks Sean for letting him be Sean tonight, and
Sean says Corey's just being himself. Corey corrects him, saying,
but everyone here thinks I'm Sean Hunter. A girl walks

(57:20):
up to grab a punch and giggles when Corey looks
at her. Corey says, well, whoever I am. He's having
a pretty good time. Sean says, it's about to get
even better. Word is there's a very hot French girl
at the party who comes from some place in Europe.
Corey asks, possibly France. Sean says, yeah, France, the gateway
to Saint Louis. I'm going to get so much hate

(57:41):
for not understanding this joke. Does anyone understand it?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
No? I think it's just that I'm funny.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
It's just a random miss he picked a place.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
This is a dumb fact.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Yeah I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Okay, So then this is another question because I thought, well,
writer might understand it, because writer is the one who
said it. Were there ever jokes in the script that
you guys just like wouldn't understand and then would you
ever flat out ask I don't get the joke? Can
someone explain it to me?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
That's a good question. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
I don't think that how we get run them, Cowboy
run them?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Isn't that how we would get the random obscure references
sometimes as being like I don't get this and win.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
But that was that was what Michael would do during
note sessions. He would make references, but and he would
be explaining, like you, I want you to in this
scene be like, you know, and reference something that we
had never heard of. But in scripts, I don't remember
not getting jokes. I mean I remember thinking things were
not funny.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, A lot of times I would be like, I
don't think this is funny, but I'll do it anyway,
you know, which is probably why I start phoning in
a lot of performances.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
But right around because I wonder if there is more
of an explanation to that France is the gateway to
Saint Louis than what we are just assuming that it's
just a funny.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Yeah, I think it's just a complete lack of geography.
I think it's just to lack of understanding.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Okay, so again you're putting pair France.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
In France, yeah, who knows?

Speaker 1 (59:05):
In the United States.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
I think it's just random funny. Sounds like if he
didn't say Saint Louis, he could have said anything else
that was funny. I mean, Poughkeepsie would have been a
funnier reference, right, because funny.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
I probably wouldn't have asked paw Tucket.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
So Corey asks Sean, so, who is she? What she
doing here? Sean says he hasn't talked to her yet.
Cory says that's so unlike him, but Sean clarifies, I'm
not Sean tonight, you are, so go find her. Cory
says that would be wrong. He has to panga. He
says he already feels weird enough at this party without her.
Sean brushes it off and says, all he's going to
do is talk to her. Cory asks what they talk about,
and Sean tells him talk about cheese. They love it.

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Cory says, then cheese it is, and he walks away
to go find her. And I wrote he is a
terrible boyfriend. So I am I am Also this not
nothing changes, This is just exposition. We're literally just get
setting up the next scene.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
This is like four times now they keep cutting back
to these little vignettes that don't make it, don't make sense,
and have nothing whatsoever to do as anything.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Nothing's coppelling this forward. Also, it would actually be better
for it to be a ramp up that now he
is thinking of, you know, he had a I don't know,
I mean something, we're I know, no, I know exactly
you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
It's he doesn't want to dance with the first girls
and Sean keeps trying to coach them that there's a
story to dance something or it's not working and he
has to do something.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
He has to put on the leather jacket and then
it worked, you know, like it changes. Yeah, the fact
that nothing has changed since he got mistaken for Sean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Yeah, that's no, that's it. Yea.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah, So I was not I'm just so far I'm
not into the storyline, not a fan. But Mark, wait
till I'm off with those violins. I'm in Uh, we're
back to the faculty meeting. Eric smiles as he puts
his cards down and says, JACKI I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Went, how did you guys notice anything about the soda cans?

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
But they were the pass.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
There was like the clearest doctor papson I think we've
ever seen on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, I still got mine. It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
So I think we've talked about it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Yeah, we should just mention it again in case our
listeners because that was like the first episode. But our
our our props guy was named Paps and Marks, so
he made doctor Paps and sodas.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Because you fake, you have to faking. Yeah, you have
to greek out a thing. It has to be like
a fake product, but you want it to look enough
like a real product. So instead of mister Pibb or
doctor Pepper, it was a mister and the doctors.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
They would go farther because some you'll watch some shows
where they just they'll take a piece of tape and
they'll cover something so it's like you're eating areos, you
know that kind of thing. Where our prop people we
had fun with it. We'd have doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Different kind of fake stuff that were really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Yeah, I sign he signed the camp for me. That's cute.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
So mister Turner chimes in, all right, Matthews, I'm not
saying you're cheating. I'm thinking it really hard, but I'm
not saying it. I just need to know for my
own peace of mind. I know I love that too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
I'm just thinking it delivery. I'm thinking it real hard,
but I'm not saying it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Doctor Cerel butts in and tells Turner to stop with
the pleasantries. He says, as principal of John Adams, hyge,
I demand to know how you're doing this. Phoene cuts
him off and yells, you're not the principle. Doctor Cerell responds,
you just keep thinking that, George. Eric says he's not
doing anything wrong. Then he accidentally knocks over the bag
of pretzels next to him. They tell him to clean
up his mess, and he responds, sure, there's only two
hundred and thirty eight pretzel sticks. They all look at

(01:02:36):
him shocked. Turner asks what did you say? Eric looks
up with, you know, four five hundred and seventy two
grains of salt. Mister Williams yells out, the man's a counter.
Mister Turner asks, so what is this like rain Man
or what? Eric just yeah, yeah, definitely good movie. Definitely movie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I'm thinking this through though. What is that how do
you cheat at poker? If you count cards? Can you
do that? Well? You can catch I think you can
do it with poker, too, can't you. I don't know
all you would get. You still don't see what they had,
and yell is the gambler. I don't know you would
stimbler among us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
You would just know to fold, I guess, because you're
not going to get any good cards.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
But but isn't it also like rain Man, there's a
thing where he's talking about an't they playing poker? When
when queen's or that there's lots of them blacks is
the one that you count? You can't. I don't think
you can count.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
The only way you could count with poker is if
you were playing more than one poker hand with the
same deck, so that after the first hand, when you've
seen what everybody you know what was out so that
then but you'd have.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
To shuffle too, to shuffle, so there's literally no way
to keep track.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Like the counting doesn't help. I don't think with poker.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
No, no, I don't think I wanted they wanted the
rain Man joke.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
This entire thing was just so they can shoot the
thing from Foenie exactly from the pool.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
So mister William says, all right, that's it, game over.
Eric begs them not to leave. Doctor Sorell says, the
fund and have to stop. He tells Eric he's taking
his favorite students to a science fair this weekend in
Atlantic City. They'll be researching things like probability statistics, maybe
a little keno Phoene says, I don't think so, mister Currell,
and then he corrects Phoene, it's doctor Crell. Phoene's response, Oh,

(01:04:15):
give it up, man, you're not a doctor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Now I'm going to say something. This is the first
time I really felt like Bill was phony in this
entire Yeah. I don't think he liked it. None of
us knew what it was. I know, but you could
tell he's off.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
He is off, and you could tell that Bill, you
know what, I had this episode and I don't really.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
He was bummed about Maureen breaking up with you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
He was pho he was you know what he was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
He was having a double date at the two dates
that two dates that night. He was running back and
forth between schools.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
He was. What it was was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Do you guys think that there's a chance that me
breaking up with Maureen might have inspired the A storyline
a little bit, because I mean, I'm still.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
In every part of your life, So I don't know
why they wouldn't. Like I remember I almost quit the
show crying backstage, like because Marine broke up.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Because of Marine, this was like so after movie, I
wouldn't be like everyone knew that this was happening in
my life that I was like devastated about this breakup,
and then Corey and Tapanga break up like within a
month or two months of like that happening in my
real life.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Like I don't know. I also think it had a
lot to do with what was going on in certain
writers and producers' lives at the time. Sure there's that
as well. I think that's true. We definitely know that.
But yeah, I think I love the idea that right
now Rusty is at finals and Bill had two dates
on the s two dates. I think that's That's where
I'm going with this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Uh so, Ben, he says he won't have a member
of his faculty behaving like this. Sorell says, not a problem.
I quit. Then he turns back to Eric and asks
if he's in for the trip, I, for one, would
be very into the Eric and Doctor Cerel TV movie
in Atlantic City. I'd like to see a god.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
That should have been the montage at the end the
carfugal montage to just a montage of them road trip.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
Oh that's funny while the sad music and then he
just keeps seeing you guys throwing ound on a bed
of poker jaw.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
That would have made this episode amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah, that would have been great.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Then we're back at the Hamilton High party. Corey's walking
around trying to find this French girl. Corey admits to
Shawn he hasn't found her yet, but he's having the
best time looking. It sure beats shopping for slacks. Sean
sticks out his hand to high five Corey and says
you wild man, And then two girls walk by, complaining,
why are the guys all over that French girl? It's
just a stupid foreign accent. Sean gasps and realizes she's
right there. Course, and who knows what could happen?

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Now this is where it did, ye'll, you're you're standing,
it's like Will's leaning. Oh my god, You're like, well,
it's the forst Like we can't see your face.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
I have.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
My hair all over one shoulder so awkward. I was like,
what is happening?

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Yep, it's it's it's even sadder than the sad dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Now we have sad standing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Of the French girl.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Literally everyone knows it's going to be have we set
this up enough?

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Aesome called that just even that portion of my hair
is I'm so still recognizable even from that terrible angle
with all my hair pulled around my shoulder and a
hat on. Oh god, why just why? Because I remember
by the way I remember in the scene and doing
the blocking being like what else can we do? What

(01:07:40):
else can we do? Like how can we disguise this
hat on?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
The hat?

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Or cat?

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
A cap shoulders?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Is that what it's called? Because we know you don't
like to wear those, so maybe if you put those on,
they'd be like, well, it can't be her because she's
wearing the cap shoulders.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Right, she's wearing capsleaves that would have been it. You're right,
that's a good point. I also the one of the
you guys gave me a compliment that I was good
in these next couple of scenes. I think the reason
I'm so so bad is because I have a jacket on.
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I can't act in a Jokey, you clearly can't stand
because this is just I can't stand.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
This is awful, terrible. You'll really blame you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
I think the whole setup is bad, but man, it's
awkward and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Sad, bad sta acting, bad jeacting coming up. Corey says,
you're right, Sean, there's no turning back now or is
The French would say Viva las Vegas. Corey walks away
as Sean says, wow, so Elvis was French, and then
Corey not funny. Now that's not funny.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Give me funny, like what is happening?

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
I agree, that's not funny. That was not that was
They could have done better for you there. So Corey
walks up to the French girl, who has her back
to camera as another guy is asking her to dance
with weird hand signals and a fake French accent, and
she says, ah we and as she turns around, we
see because I have had on. They both look at

(01:09:00):
each other in shock. Cory is visibly hurt and asks
to Panga, you're the French girl. She looks at him
and doesn't respond, and Corey says, I'm talking to you,
and again he's angry, angry, so angry at me. The
guy who had asked a panga to dance, or young
Kiefer as I'm going to now call him, yells. She
doesn't speak English, pal, Now back off. He's got the

(01:09:20):
best middle part I've ever seen. I know we should
be the middle part.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Whoa you know you heard me. I'm saying it. I'm
saying it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
I think America disagrees with you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
It seems like America disagrees with me a lot. So
that's okay. But it's a pretty great middle.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Are you're taking yourself out of the running, dude, He's
got a solid middle party, great middle part.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
You're turning on me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Now here's the thing he is going to give the
middle part. Like Jonathan brandis yes, okay, oh yeah, Will, Yes, writer,
I should be in the top five.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
But this guy Eric, Well, here's here's the thing. Writer,
your hair and and Will's hair has so you have
so much hair that even with a part, it's not
like a super obvious part. This guy has like he
has like a part. It almost looks like someone shaved
his part down the middle. And it is mushroom. It

(01:10:17):
is butt cut. It is it is? It is? It is?
It is something to to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
I feel like, you know, I have one thing, guys, Okay,
it's yours writer.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
It's it's yours.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
I can't do it to him, I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
It's yours writer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
I just said, Eric, did you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Eric's okay? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
So Corey looks at him and says, no, you back
off now, and to Pega sounds accent, says, do not
make a scene, and the Hamilton High schooler is in shock.
When he understands what Topanga said. He thinks he just
understood French. He runs away to tell his friends he
speaks French. French. Now to Pega and Corey are now alone.
Corey tells her to explain what she's doing here in English. Please.
To Penga says her and her girlfriends thought it would

(01:11:05):
be fun to come to another school's party. Corey is
upset because she's pretending to be another person. Tapega asks,
what's wrong with that? Good question?

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Eh, you look great by the way, that should be
thrown out there that you look at her.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
I'm nearing peak. Danielle Fisher, Yeah, it was all downhill
the season later. Honestly, it's true we're getting to it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
I'll know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
I'll know when it's when we hit like, oh, that's
it from here on out. It's just a yeah, there's
like a smell.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Now you're tough to be around. It's not this right,
you'll know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Corey asks what's wrong with her being her and she
says nothing. Being French just seemed exciting. Corey says, it
takes a pretty insecure person to pretend to be other people.
I find it hard to believe that he's still this
angry as he's saying those words, and he hasn't quite
realized yet that that's what he's been doing all night,
but uh, perfectly timed. Hillary walks up and then says, hey, Sean,

(01:11:57):
I've been looking for you to Pega looks at him
in shock and asks, Sean, and this is where I noticed.
I don't notice anything about this party that looks like
a jungle. I looked around one last time because I
knew we were leaving, and I was like, where is
the jungle?

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Such an awkward transition, like to the outside of the party.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I know, I was like, what is hat?

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I think you're right, Will, there's something off about all
the transitions in this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
It is the cuts are really weird to cut.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
To, like suddenly being outside and like where is Sean?

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Where's the no one just thinks.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
That nobody else is outside at this Monday night dance, right,
I mean it's very strange.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Well, we're outside of Hamilton, Hi. Corey explains he didn't
come here to be Sean. He says, who would want
to be Sean when they can be me? And then
he raises his hand to Pega, puts his hand down
and says, well, just be you and can you tell me?
Why did you come here? Corey says because he needed
a change. It was either going to the party or
going to buy another pair of slacks. To Pang to
clarify as he came here because he wanted to have
some fun. Corey says they haven't had fun in a

(01:13:04):
long time. She agrees and asks how long it's been?

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
So old?

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
I know, I know, Sarah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
This is such a shoehorning a conversation. Yes, fifty year
old people have, Yes, correct, forty five year old writers
of shows have with their wives.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
And again trying to force you to know that they have. Okay,
we haven't shown you at all. This has not been
earned at all. We haven't given it to you at all.
So we're telling you they've been together for so long,
they're already in a rut. Go and it's like, I'm
just not okay with it. Sorry, I'm not I want
to see the relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
So Cory asks her, how long have we been married? Now?
Forty fifty years. She responds with saying they're in a rut.
Corey says, they're in a big rut, a rut filled
with couple magazines and slacks and jams. Corey says when
he and to Panga started going out, everything was so
exciting for him. Every day was something different. To Panga agrees,
saying there's just no mystery anymore. And I am so

(01:13:58):
monotone and I am just repeating in slightly different words
exactly what Corey is saying. I am basically Corey's hype man,
Like he's like, I think we should take time away,
and I go time away, Like, uh, I'm basically the
diddy to his biggie, Like it's it's Corey says, No, no,

(01:14:23):
absolutely not. Corey says he sees Eric and Shawn going
on their dates excited and wondering what's going to happen
to Penga says they've forgotten what that feels like. I'll
be watching. I'll be watching you. Literally, I'm just like
chiming in with didyisms. He's the biggie, he's got all
the stuff. And then I'll be watching you take that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Take that. Yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
There you go. You got it. I'm actually I'm super
impressed with both of you that you understand these references.
I get them, you do, I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Know, I'm just kind of you got it, you got.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Corey feels like he still cares about her as much
as he always has and that'll never change. Topanga looks
at him and asks if they're breaking up. Corey says
he doesn't want to break up, and Tapanga tells him
when people break up, they always end up hating each other.
Corey reassures her they're not like other people. Then he
looks at Shawn's leather jacket and to Pega's outfit and says,
actually they are, but they could never hate each other
no matter who they are, even though we all remember

(01:15:19):
he couldn't stand her when he first met her just
a couple years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
But I digress.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Tapanga asks again, we're breaking up, aren't we? He reiterates, No,
they're not. They're never going to break up. Announcer voice.
This is incorrect, she says Corey. Maybe the people who
end up hating each other are the people who waited
too long to break up. Wise freaking words to Panga.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Yeah, well, I mean I love that you've been together
for hours at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Yes, we've been together for hours, but also I do
I do love that. Like maybe this is the advice
that Corey and Topanga should have taken years later, Like
there is no harm in breaking up with somebody, and
when you are young and you have been together for

(01:16:11):
only five months and now, it is not a failure
to say, maybe this isn't working. Yeah, we're not supposed
to be together nuts ever, maybe not, And by the way, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Maybe we are.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
But right now I'm feeling like I'd rather go flirt
with girls at another party, and you want to flirt
with dudes at a party pretending to be French. That
feels like maybe we should be able to go do that.
Nothing wrong with it, Still appreciate you, still respect you,
no conflict, Let's just not be together. Yeah, But anyway,
Corey now questions if Tapanga wants to break up with him,

(01:16:45):
and Tapanga tells him she wants to keep caring about
him as much as she cares about him right now.
Cory says that means they should break up right away then,
so they can still stay great friend friends to Panga
nods and ads, which we've always been sure jan Corey
smiles and says, yeah, nothing will ever change. Tapanga agrees
with them, and they just stand there looking at each other.
Corey says, well, I'll see you. Topanga smiles and says, yeah,

(01:17:07):
see you, and they walk away, and then we hear
footsteps running back. This is where I started to get hooked.
Footsteps running back. It's Tapanga returning to say Corey, maybe
we're making a miss, and she stops when she doesn't
see Corey there anymore. She crosses her arms, I'm apparently cold,
and she walks away. Corey then runs back in Topanga,
I'm not sure this, and he stops when he doesn't

(01:17:29):
see Tapanga anywhere. Like two ships in the night. He's
visibly upset as he walks over to the bench and
sits down, staring off into the distance, and then we
see the tag closing credits, Corey and Tapanga are in
mister Turner's classroom. Topanga looks at Corey, who is upset
looking looking away from Topanga, and then a montage of
seeds start rolling of Corey and Topanga. All lie Art

(01:17:55):
Garfunkle plays in the background. Oh how much did they
pay Art Garfunkle?

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Then much?

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
This is it, guys, This is exactly why from this
moment on, I'm going to reiterate what I said at
the beginning. We believe the lie that Tapanga and Corey
have this incredible, amazing chemistry and history and a love story.
But really it's just a montage where they told us
what happened. It needs to be man, they belong together.

(01:18:25):
I look, I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Like the anonymous things should pop up right now and
just hear a voice going, you're being lied to montage.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
I I totally it totally worked on men, totally worked.
It's like, Wow, I actually care about the Corey to Panga.
I love these kids. I love seeing you guys young.
It like made me like God, it just freaked me
out how much you've changed in three seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
And that's why I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
That's why gets people.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
But I mean again, it works if you're easily swayed
for things like that, then yes, it works if you
have any kind of I wow, wait a second, No,
it's not about you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Know, it's about wanting to earn it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
No, I know, of course, of course, but I do
think that you know, it's it worked like it's like
if you just said to buy it is a like
this whole storyline, like the fact that they're breaking up
is sad. Is only a thing if you accept the
precept that they are souls destined for each other, which.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Is which you didn't at all until the montage exactly
you've said, I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
That I know, but I've said it before like that,
it's become Lord. It's a precept of Boy Meets World.
You have to accept. The point of Boy Meets World
is that Corey and Debanga were born for each other, right,
And of course I don't believe in that in the
real world. I don't believe on souls. I don't believe
in destiny. I don't believe in two people being meant.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
For each other.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
But if a lot of people do believe in that
kind of thing, and I think you you kind of
if you like Boy the World, you kind of have
to believe the corn to Panga because that's the only
like what Danielle was just saying, the only source of
conflict with them breaking up is that it's a failure
because their souls are meant for each other, right and so.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Like, And again I have no problem with that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
If that's how what the show was going to be,
or even when they brought it to Panga character on
going that route with it, let's figure at all. It
was like she's net We're talking about how Danielle's barely
on the show when she is on, She's not used
properly when she is on there, changing her character all
the time. All of a sudden, it's just they're together,
accept it, move on there together. We don't want to

(01:20:34):
talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Third season that became yes, like one of the and
it was revisionist history.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Yeah, but it wasn't even that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
That would have been fine if they if after that
first we belong together and they get they fall in
love after that, if the show was then about that,
right ohip.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
For the other episodes that Danielle's not in, well, I
wonder now if we're broken up, I'm actually going to
have a bigger part on the show because now and
conflict there that would be great, or maybe I just
won't be Like I wonder if now we keep waiting
for the moment where now to Penga becomes a part
of the show, Like I wonder if here is where

(01:21:14):
it happens, where now they hope because we're much a bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Part of the show in the first season, right like
when you're when your character had character and you would
come in and you were weird to everybody, it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Was so fun. It was they're still trying to figure
you out. But I I just and I get what
people are saying. And then again not harping on it,
but it's you have to, right, you have to just
accept the fact that we're we're not going to see
their origin in any way. We're not going to see
them build a relationship. They're just in a relationship. And
now we have to deal with that and they they
have to figure it out. They have to end up,

(01:21:46):
right And I and I guess I'm just not there yet. No,
that's just I'm just not You didn't do it amazing Simon.
If it was Paul Simon, maybe how Dar, you didn't
do it for me?

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Don't it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
The fun Ark uncle didn't do it? Did you?

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Ever see Watership Down the Car?

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
No what? It's an amazing cartoon. Oh my god, you
have to. But as a guard Garfuncle song, Brighteyes Burning
like Fire.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Oh my god, it was like it maybe cry when
I was like six. It's a crazy cartoon. You guys
have to see it. Every time I think of our
Carvo that's the song, right, Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Thank you all for joining us for this episode. Join
us for our next episode, which will be season three
episode thirteen, New Friends and Old It air January nineteenth,
nineteen ninety six. As always, you can follow us on
Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can send us your
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(01:22:48):
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(01:23:09):
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