TGI – Episode 408 “Dangerous Secret”

It’s time to recap a “very special episode” of Boy Meets World! Life finds a way when a special guest star strolls right out of Jurassic Park into Shawn’s trailer and Cory has a dilemma of conscience (and being a horned up teen).
 
Danielle, Will and Rider explore the season's expansive achievements, while Will thinks everything is mathematically connected and we get an update on the possible OJ jersey.
 
All that, and some serious CD changer talk, on the new Pod Meets World...

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
So as both of you probably know, I can't do
math numbers and I do not get along at all.
A calculated is a real thing, and my brain just
does not do math. You put numbers in front of
me and it swims around like Percy Jackson.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Now, I remember you had a brilliant invention back in
the nineties. Do you remember your invention that you want
to know? I want to know, very simple and you
probably would have made a lot of money before phones
were invented or calculators. Yeah, no, no, you wanted to
do remember do you remember you were like, why don't
restaurants have you know, because every restaurant has the the

(00:57):
bill like the billfold that, why don't you sell a
will fold with a calculating calculators?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Like that's a brilliant idea.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I was gonna call it a will fold, thank you
very much, which would have been brilliant, and that's still trademarked.
But occasionally something mathematical pops up that intrigues me and
is very strange. Have either of you ever heard of
capri cars constant?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Okay, So Capricr's constant is any four digit number you pick,
no matter how random the number is as long as
two of the numbers are different. So like you can't
pick one one one one, but you can pick one
one one zero as long as two of the numbers
are different. If you take any random number, then you

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take that number and you rewrite it in order of
descending numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
So I wrote it down. So for instance, if I
started with three and.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Fifty eight, okay, three five eight, if.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
You then write it eight seven five three, so in
descending order as you're going, okay, okay, then you reverse
that number, so three five seven eight, and you subtract
it from the first number.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Does that make sense right?

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
So seven three five eight becomes eight seven five three
minus three five seven eight, because you've taken that number
eight seven five three, and you reversed it and you
subtract it from itself.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Capricar's constant found out in nineteen forty was a mathematician
in nineteen forty. No matter what number you start with,
no matter how random you think it is, you always
get to six, one hundred and seventy four. I've now
done this thirty times over the weekend. And no matter

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what four digits you start with, no matter how random
they are.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
You always end up with six, one hundred and seventy four.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
I did not know there would be math this morning.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I know it's fun though, in the kind of way.
But what if you're starting with hold on, if you're.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Starting with one, one thousand and two hundred, like okay,
and you go ahead, there you go.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
You just picked it one thousand, two hundred, okay.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
So when you one, you want to change to zero zero.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
So now you write two starting zero.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
One one hundred one zero zero, And then you're saying
it's going to end up being six thousand when I
subtract something from it.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
When you then subtract, you'll get another number. You do
it again, you subtract, you get another number, You do
it again. Eventually you always get to six thousand, one
hundred and seventy.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
Way, you have to keep subtracting.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, yeah, you have to keep you keep going.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
So it feels like chem trails.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, this is here's for instance, what I started with,
So the eight seven five to three, then I got
five thousand, one hundred and seventy five. Okay, So I
did it again, seven five y five to one. I
got five thousand, nine ninety four. You keep going, so one, two, three, four, five,
six down. I ended up with six thousand, one hundred
and seventy four. Sometimes it takes three times, sometimes it

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takes eight times. Sometimes it takes four times, but you
always end up with six and seventy four.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
You just held up a notebook that looked like a
Unibomber manifesto.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Oh no, that's not that.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
But if you just have to keep doing something to
reach something, doesn't it kind of.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Like that you'd always randomly reach the same for random
we're actually working to get to the same thing. Eight ones.
That didn't add up again. But it doesn't matter what
you start with. That's the randomness. If you, like you said,
you start with twelve hundred, or you start seven hundredatives right.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
You're talking about getting so I started with twelve hundred.
I'm going to get into No, you wouldn't mean.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Okay, because you reverse to do it.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
I don't care if this takes forty five minutes. I'm
doing it.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I want to keep twelve hundred twelve hundred zero zero
two one zero zero now reverse it, so zero zero
to one, okay, So you take I've got my nineteen
seventies calculator.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Okay, subtract zero zero one to two from two to
one zero one hundred huh minus.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Minus twenty one, because that's what it comes down to.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
You end up.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
It should be tw elf right, you reverse, you reverse it,
so two one zero zero one two corecting the reverse
hang on a second zero zero one zero zero, and
then you reverse it one two zero.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I'm sorry, it's twelve hundred. Excuse me, you're right. It's
because you reverse it one two zero.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Zero twelve hundred. I thought it's zero zero one.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
No, No, you're right, you're it's early. You're right, it's no,
it's zero zero two zero zero two one.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
You know what you could use right now? A will fold,
A willfold with hell.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
No, you're right, it's so twelve hundred one zero zero
reversed is zero zero one two.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Correct? Right, So there you guys.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
One of the main reasons I chose Columbia College is
they don't do university.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
They do not have a math requirement. Science requirement, but
no math requirement.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
There's no math requirement at all.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
No, you have to have you have to.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's everyone tasty school. We talked to test exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
You cannot graduate from from Colombia without being able to swim, or.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
You know, you can get a special like you know,
if I still.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Need to understand, we have we just we're going to
subtract twelve from twenty one hundred.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Correct, twenty one hundred minus twelve equals two thousand.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Eighty eight eighty eight eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Okay, so then you reverse.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So then now in's do the descending order again eight
eight zero are eight eight to two zero and then
reverse it zero to eight.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Do you know how many listeners are having a panic
attack right now, like they all they wanted was to
go back to the nineties for Boy Meets World and
instead they're having a math class.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
It's just zero. And then there's like.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Our ten percent listeners who are actual mathematicians and scientists
out there who are like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Ten percent, Wow, you're going to percentage out. Okay, percent
is a large percentage of our population.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
People that work in like medicine or.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
No, okay, maths, you're right, but like scientists, like people
who actually use math on the dealer.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Basis addition and subtraction. Yeah, you're right, it probably is
ten percent.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
People have to.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Use Actually to accountant, you have to use no map.
There's lots of jobs out.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
There that require math.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
You guys keep talking, I'm just gonna keep doing the numbers.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Wait, I'm obsessed with this. This is truly wonderful and
I love that. He was like, listen, you guys know
I'm not good at math, but let me tell you
about this thing. And then had we spent we had
to spend a minute and a half talking about what
the reverse of.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Two exactly two? This is what I'm a calculia is
a real thing.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
So then maybe you shouldn't teach us about maybe you
just stick to history.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
So what does this mean?

Speaker 6 (07:28):
Like?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
What is?

Speaker 6 (07:29):
What is?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
That's the question?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That's what question for cars? Constant help you solve or
do for me? I think that maybe there's no such
thing as random. As much as you would think that
everything's random, there's actually some sort of a pattern even
in the randomness, which would be kind of fractal geometry,
I guess, but it's there's something interesting.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
I just thought that was it's like, no matter what
you start with.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
So wait, I'm at nine to nine six three minus
three six nine nine equals six two.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Six four, Okay, right close?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Six four to two minus two again. Sometimes it takes
a while discuss amongst yourself.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Did you know that if you take any episode of
Boy Meets World and you subtract the advertisements, you you
always get twenty two minutes.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
YEA, sure, sometimes it's twenty one minutes and twenty seven seconds, but.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's all I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
How long our scripts were at the beginning of the week,
You're right, sub the same.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Sometimes we get fifty five page scrip.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Fifty five page script? What were the longest scripts? Do
you guys remember?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I mean Goli World had some that were fifty eight
pages sixty But yeah, it would be get one and
we'd be like, yeah, it'd be on, it'd be this
big weeks it down ago. Here we go, we have
to tour, we have to trim half of this.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Do we should seven six?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Well, you've eventually end up with seven six four to
one minus one four six seven for six one seven
four you always get to six thousand, one hundred and
seventy four. And that was starting with writers twelve hundred.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
What was Caapricard doing, like, you know, like he was
a mathematician, he was doing an understand.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
But like, how do you decide it's.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Uh, the same way these people on Instagram make these
new kind of fangled dinners that my wife will have
me look at. Where it's like who decided to take
Sarachimeo and Oreos and make something out of it? The
Universe Rider it's chaos, well, but it's not. It's all
six and seventy four.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Welcome to pod meets Capricorn's Constant or whatever it was called.
Danielle offishal Capricorns.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm right strong and I'm Wilfredell.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Okay, I have an I have a little pre show
note here.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
The O. J.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Simpson jersey that we talked about, Was it o J? Simpson?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Was it not?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
O J?

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Simpson? Easton super fan Easton Allen found a moment sometime,
super fan of lots of things.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Found a moment in season two episode fifteen. Breaking up
is really really hard to do. That does prove the
number is thirty two. And this would have been taped
this one from season two episode fifteen would have been
taped like deep into the trial. Yes, and we have
a picture of that's.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
The Old Man episode exactly else.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
So we have a picture of Okay, you can see
there it is.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
That's really O J. Simpsons?

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Then we have been this picture over here, the thing
that very clearly looks like a jersey, So yeah, it
moved so that it could be featured.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
God was it an OJ reference?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Like?

Speaker 4 (10:32):
It also looks autographed? And that one does on the left,
does it looks autographed?

Speaker 5 (10:38):
By the way, just scene now seen isolated?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
That uh, pinball brings back so many memories like, yeah,
just that that helmet is that a real pinball game?

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Is that one I mentioned to you was worth like
thirty seven hundred dollars or something?

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Wow? Just seeing it brings back so many memories.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I wonder if what's worth more that or an autographed
OJ jersey that.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Was on the set of Boy Meets Were World throughout
the nineties. Jeez.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Anyway, I thought that was I thought that was pretty interesting.
So I don't know when we we get six one
seven four.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
That's what it means.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Eventually you get it.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Eventually we do have to try from someone from art
department because we have not had any art department on
our show, and we need and prime.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's the.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Art department is everybody? So yeah, we got to bring
them all like set Deck, who was our product.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
We've talked about Mark Papson so much on this on
this podcast.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
It seems like we have to get amazing.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
And then Hector, remember Hector the lst.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Of course, he'd always wear the vest he had.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I remember, he had everything on him all the time,
to the point where we would go and we would
test him, don't you remember, And we'd be like, all right,
paper clips and you boom where we go white at
boom bullets. He's like, oh here, yes, it's right here.
Anything you needed he had there. I'm sure the fake
prop ones, but it was anything you needed the guy
had on him.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
It was inside.

Speaker 7 (11:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Well, let's jump into our recap. We are here to
talk about season four, episode eight, Dangerous Secret. It originally
aired November eighth, nineteen ninety six. The synopsis Corey walks
in on Sean to find that he has a girl
staying at his trailer. When Shawn needs Corey to allow
Claire to stay at his house, he is forced to
tell Corey that Claire's father beats her. It was directed

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by Jeff McCracken. It was written by Jeff Sherman and
guest starring just one person, Arianna Richards. As Claire Ferguson.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
She is the only guest star.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
She is a legendary child actress who played Lex in
Jurassic Park and the Lost World sequel and Mindy in Tremors.
She has since retired from acting and she is a painter.
Mm hmm, what do you guys? What were your overall
thoughts memory?

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Will loved this episode.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I am positive this is probably his favorite. You probably
probably all time best boy MIT's world. As far as Will, it's.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Too serious, focused on a person we're never going to
see again. I love a smile. What's the episode's whatever?
The thoughts?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Will? I thought it was amazing. I thought it was amazing.
That was a great episode. I thought it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I thought this was this is absolutely what every quote
unquote very special episode should be like, because it's a
very special episode without it being a very special episode.
She killed it. I thought the acting was great. I
thought it was a great storyline.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I thought I thought you would hate it because it
really isn't funny, Like there's almost no humor.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's not this one's not supposed to be. That's why
it's the quote unquote very special episode. And when you
come in with something like that, when it's when it
is uh, the and this is a reference you guys
won't get at all. But when it is the different
strokes with the bike shop, it's not supposed to be
funny totally.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
That's the that's the point. And so no, it was.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
And this was written by by Jeff Sherman and he
was called special Jeff, yes, because it always do the
special special episodes because he started with the Fugitive and
and it's amazing. I mean I remember being called into
Michael's office to be pitched this episode by Michael and
Jeff because they were like, you want to.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Do an episode about this? How do you feel about it?

Speaker 2 (14:10):
And like I remember just looking at Jeff and Jeff
being like, yeah, I think this is really important that
we do.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
That's nice that they brought you in and said we
do a very special episode and not brought you in
and said, hey, we're writing one where you're fat.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Thanks right node the ones I had.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I'm not even sure why they called me in exactly.
I guess maybe because you.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Were so cool. They wanted to make sure they had
your approval, right, They wanted to make sure you were like,
I'm on board with this.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, it is interesting, like why and also why is it?
It's it's interesting that it's Sean's relationship, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Like, did you like it, Daniel?

Speaker 4 (14:46):
I did? I really liked it. Yeah, I thought it
was I thought it was great. I thought, you know,
as as special episodes tend to do, I definitely got emotional.
I loved the scene with Betsy and Rusty. Oh my gosh,
the scene with Betsy and Rusty and you and Ben
at the end right episode.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
And Ben is great. Ben is great in this episode.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
He goes it goes from one thing where you think
it's going to be about him just wanting sex or
moving that forward to that then becoming a completely different Thinganelle.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
You're great in this episode.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
A freaky set of scenes you have, Yeah, and like
to not come across as you know, like there's a
version where Tapanga is like either being too.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Mean to Cory or dismissive or.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Like just like judge of him, and instead it's like
it's a really it's a balancing act, and you guys
do well in those great they're weird scenes and they're
not as funny as I think they were.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Intended to be in some ways, right, that's okay, like
you know, it's it.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I think there was. I think there was a balance
there too. You also can't make light too much of
those scenes because then you have a big joke machine
about somebody pushing somebody else in a way where there
maybe they're not comfortable, and you're like, well, now we're
making light of something that it really is a very
sensitive topic for teens. So I thought everything about this
episode was handled very well. You're right that it isn't

(16:09):
a joke machine episode. And I really liked writer. I
thought you same thing for you. A bunch of tricky
scenes where either you could have come across like a
know it all you know, like I'm I'm a teenager
who knows everything and everybody's got to listen to me,
but really there was none of that. It felt very

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much like you also didn't know, and you were comfortable
saying you didn't know. All you knew was that for
right now, you needed to protect this girl and you
were going to do it in this way and day,
one day at a time. Which yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
This to me I also thought was the quintessential episode
of how you watch it one way when you're younger
and another way when you're an adult.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, because when you're that age, it is like, no,
I can protect my friend.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I can do.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
When you're an adult, you're in there yelling at the screen,
call the police. This is too big a seekert for
you to keep. But it's so different when you're watching
it as a young person.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I also watching it now having you know, been
through the whole rest of Boybet's world and heard the
like potential that Chet was abusive to Sean or Di
abusive to Verna at one point, like the fact that
Sean is so keyed in on this girl and protecting
her is really there's a subtext there, Yeah, that Sean's
the person who knows like Corey has no clue, right,

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Corey's like do do do? Like normal kid in everyday life,
and Sean's the one who has the radar, who's like, no, no, no,
I need to take care of this girl. And that
is like that was something I don't remember talking about
or like knowing, but you can feel it in Shawn's
character that he is like, I need to save this person.
I don't know how because I don't have the tools

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yet I'm not an adult, but I need to be
there for this person in a way that is like
kind of intense, right like, And in retrospect, it seems
like the writers were already you know, whether Sean had
been abused or not, he just is tapped into family
situations that are not healthy and he is like he
is the one who can sort of be there for this.
I thought that was really cool and like that came

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across and yeah, got me very emotional.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I also think the trailer park was using I got
so much they say, the kids say, ish, I just
say for the last that the Verna fishing for Verna,
where you know, I felt the balance was off. It
seemed like a weird Boy Meets World episode to me,
where this used the trailer park but still felt grounded
in Boy Mets World.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
We were still going back to the house.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
We were still still Corey's story, and that was It
was really nice to see Corey kind of driving the
story again this week as well.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
It was a good balance I thought all the way around.
Very good episode.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
So somebody that I kept thinking about and like I
want to talk about with you guys, and maybe now's
not the time, but I.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Don't know, Like, isn't it weird?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
This could never exist anymore, this episode, this type of
episode doesn't happen anymore, Like we no longer you no
longer have sitcoms that veer into this territory because everything
has its lane now, Like you go to multi camera
sitcoms for comedy. If they were to stray from that now,
that would be like a betrayal of the audience, because

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audiences now pick their content, whereas back then it was
just the format that was on on television at night,
and so there was more power within the show itself
to sort of stretch the form or test it or
push it and to do things like this, like really
take a risk. But back then sitcoms would do this often.
They would be like, this week is gonna just be

(19:39):
a completely different thing within the within the format. We're
still gonna you know, we're not gonna break the rules
of multi camera with an a live audience, but we're
gonna like go somewhere really interesting. Like that doesn't happen anymore.
And I don't know whether that's a good thing or
a bad thing, but it's super interesting that this specifically,
this type of episode would never exist.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Nowadays, Yeah, we got bring it back, so we can
do it. I agree, because I love it. I love
it well.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I think, well, I think what's what's lost in that
is that there were definitely children who this spoke to
so many families. You know, you just statistically there are abuse.
There is abuse going on all the time in families,
and so for kids to be watching a children's television
show that's supposed to be fun and entertaining with their
family and you know, potentially with their parents with their abuser,

(20:27):
to be able to see a show that contextualizes that
and says you go to the police, you reach out
for help. That is so powerful. That is such an
amazing thing that like.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Couldn't happen nowadays, I don't think, because.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I think it can happen again.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
What you have to do is by this point in
season four, we'd earned our audience and we'd earn their trust.
There are Yeah, by that point, they're going to come
with us, and I think you can get that back again.
I think it's I think when when you've got again,
like if we can bring back the family sit calm
once people come, then you can kind.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Of do episodes like this again home Improvement did stuff
like this.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
You know, Jonathan Taylor Thomas's did an episode where they
thought he had had cancer, and I mean there was
like all these things.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I think the sitcom.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Used to do this.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
He used to veer into these territories regularly because they could.
But I just don't know if that.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I mean, I think we can do it.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
If you don't know, well, let's jump into our recap.
We start in the trailer park. Corey has got bags
full of groceries. As he kicks on Sean's trailer door,
the light turns on. Seawan appears, You've got a cool
like hieroglyphics tea on.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah, just terrible hair.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's the middle of the night. It's supposed to be
my hair.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
In this whole episode, I was like, what happened? Like
I had gotten a haircut and I don't know. Laurie
wasn't straightened in a something something off.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Something something off was like whoa, I did not notice?
So uh. Sean wants to know what Corey's doing there,
and Corey says, my best friend's sick. Be his folks
are out of town. I just thought i'd drop by
and check on you. He pushes past Sean and sets
his bags down in the kitchen, and I thought where where?
And Verna out of town? Like are they on a cruise?

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Where they go?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Did anybody else notice also that all of that stuff
could have fit in one bag? Did you need to
bring all three bags that had at the bottom all.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
So we could just charge right past him?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
So what I remember about filming this episode is the
weirdness of the exterior trailer park being a separate set
than the interior trailer because you had to do two
different sets, so we had like around like back by
Craft Service, we had built the exterior trailer park which
has like just a little glimpse into this interior SETI
is not actually the trailer And I just remember it

(22:36):
being so weird because then we would shoot like outside
and then have to go to another set on the
other set.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Of repo reposition, all the cameras, everything down. So he
ended up shooting that little and that little entrance fifteen
times exactly and then going into the real scene.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
That's like literally all I remember about filming this episode.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
It was like in my mind, I was like, why
were well place?

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Because then later Corey leaves and then comes out of
those right right, And of course we probably shot it
where all the exteriors were shot back to back to
avoid full repos down across stage.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
That was done on Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
These little mini mini scenes.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I don't think we shot this in front of a
live audience.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
I don't think so. Episode doesn't feel like an audience
episode because then again, the scenes that would have been
in front of the audience were like the bedroom scenes.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Which the whole way, yeah, you wouldn't want to do
the bedroom. I think they pulled the audience.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
I don't think. I think so.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
It makes sense, definitely, probably we probably camera blocked this
entire week. So Corey has brought over a few little
sundryes for him. What a thoughtful friend. Sean jokingly asks,
you didn't bring me any flowers, and then Corey pulls
out a mini bouquet. I did. I just didn't know
if it was appropriate. Sean tells him it's not. Then
he fake coughs and says he's really tired and he
needs to do to sleep.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
The beginning of the like col Sean bromance, like the
real like it is right, like because we haven't self
consciously made jokes like I didn't think it was appropriate,
but I did do it.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Like have we done that yet?

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Well, There's and Sean are acting like lovers but.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Right, but they're like not sure.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
In some ways, I feel like this is maybe the
first one that's really on the nose, like I brought
you flowers but in the But with that said, I
also feel like that's kind of like one of the
things I remember that I loved so much is when
you were telling Corey to hold your hand the way
he was holding to Pega's hand the cans and then
somebody walks in and you guys aren't embarrassed that you

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guys have been so in some sense, this feels like
the very first.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, this is the first like self conscious, like we're
kind of treating each other like like we're in a relationship.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Yeah, but yeah, this is.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
And this is going to be like an ongoing joke
like this the next three years.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
This love it as to Pengo would say, my whole life.
So he fake coughs and says he's really tired, he
needs to get some sleep. He tells Corey he's contagious.
So Corey gets ready to leave. I'll just plug in
the humidifire, and be on my way. As Corey makes
his way to Shawn's bedroom, a girl walks out into
the living room, where wearing Sean's robe. Corey looks at

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her Claire, then turns to his best friend Sean. I'm
assuming Claire is a school friend.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yeah, they've said they've that.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
By the way that Corey says her name, yeah, they do.
With that one way he says that they've set up. Okay,
she's from school, they know her.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
It's simple.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
This is nitpicky, but I kind of wish somewhere that
could have been mentioned because I assume this is someone
because we've never seen her, the audience has never seen
her at school before. I assumed this was another girl
who lives in the trailer park. And then later when
she comes out of the trailer and they're having this conversation,

(25:45):
you're not going to tell anybody, I was like, you're
hiding her in.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Here.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
I didn't know so I and it didn't bother me
so much that it changed the way I felt about
the episode. But I kind of just wish it would
have been casually mentioned somewhere that, like we see her
in the halls, and she goes to school with us.
I don't know, it was just something later I'm talking to.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Her, Yeah later, But yes, you're an established.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Without it being a shock that there was a girl
in the trailer room.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Here's here's the other thing though, which is which is
something that was interesting. So in the last couple of
trailer scenes, there's clearly a rollaway bed that is tucked
up against the wall, which is Sean's bed. So you
figure they have the parents have a bedroom, and then
Sean sleeps on the roll away probably there in the living.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Room where they have set up.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Never noticed that, ye roll away bed right there when
when he walks in. So if she's walking out of
the bedroom and it's night and the rollaway bed isn't
set up, then they are in fact sharing a bed.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
She It could be completely platonic.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
But I just assumed there were two bedrooms back there
in the room and the parents room.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I think they've set it up where there's only one,
because again, the rollaway bed was pretty prominent in the
last couple episodes.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Oh wow, I didn't even notice.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Interesting either way, this is a cool story point, Like,
I love this idea. It seems a little early like, right,
we're fifteen, we're fifteen, which also.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
Which is the point, I guess, but like.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
But also, how are we fifteen and in eleventh grade?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
So we were your juniors? Yeah you should be six.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
They had a whole what grade are you in? Eleven?

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:21):
How are we fifteen and in eleventh grade? I was
seventeen in eleven?

Speaker 3 (27:25):
See a sure house, right, yeah, it's whatever it has.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
But you're right, Well, the other thing you put people
don't know is everyone on Boy Meets World was held.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Back for being stupid.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
We're not even the really smartest telling.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
You that's Sagittarius is constant.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
A writer, I like this as a point too as well,
then you too.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, but it's it just feels like even in the
whole storyline with Corey with you felt like, God, we're
young to be even having But you know, I guess
that's realistic. That's pretty I think it is pretty realistic. Well,
especially then because yeah, that no, then it was.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
The topic of conversation about are you are you thinking
about it? Have you done it? Uh huh? That is
probably basically exactly where Corey is. Corey is probably the
quote unquote norm for that time has a girlfriend's been
making out with her, is starting to think about what's
the next step. And and for Sean, the whole point

(28:20):
of it is that Corey is like, what, You're already there?
How are you there? And I'm way back here. So
it kind of is the point is that, Wow, that's early,
but I'm really late apparently, you know, for Corey, I
need to move on.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Since we're discussing this now.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I was going to bring this up in the next scene,
but I have an honest question, and I'm not trying
to make light.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I'm honestly asking.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Do you think by the time Corey and Tipanga got
married they had only kissed.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Get as sick as you can get without actually dying.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
That's you, right, right, But that's but he's you know,
he's got to let me touch something and all that stuff,
and that I mean, do you think they literally went
from kissing to married nothing in between?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
I don't know. I do know that way later, when
when we're like in the college episodes, because I've seen
I've seen the meme of it, there is a scene
where uh, I say something like I showed him my butt, Okay,
so that would that would also imply something happened, so
that would or just truly that I showed him my butt,

(29:23):
in which case he has never seen my butt, right,
which I then would assume means we just went from
kissing kissing marriage.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, okay, again, no no judgment, just just curious if
that's how if that's how they were playing it, like
they had never fooled around.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
They just kissed and then they got married.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yep, I don't. I really don't know. I had not
thought about it too much, but.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
That's all I think about.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
It's all I was gonna say.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
For some reason, I get very uncomfortable thinking about teenage
sex lives, even though they were like kind of ours
in a weird way.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
It's so bizarre we had them, yeah, or we didn't
have them, depending on who were.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
As a late I totally I was a late bloomer.
I totally totally get that.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I mean, I really do. I completely was. But I
was just curious if they went from extreme to extreme.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean we did get married at eighteen.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
So yeah, right, you know you have to wait exactly wait,
and it was never.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Explicitly religious, right, Like it was never like a we're waiting.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
For I didn't even say, the universe wants me to wait.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
It was just my my decision. Yeah, yeah, I don't
know it was. It was just as she was waiting
for marriage.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I hear Michael Jacobs.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I hear Michael Jacobs read after you said, the universe
want of Ben going, but the universe wants us naked
like something like that.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
So then we cut to commercial with some surf rock strings,
and then we're back at the trailer park. Corey is
quickly leaving, and Shawn chases after him. He doesn't have
to leave. Corey admits, like, I'm not embarrassed enough me
and my mentha lateam. If he had plans like this,
he says, Sean could have just told him. Sean asks
Corey to just trust him about this. Then Claire walks
out and begs Corey, you won't tell anyone I was here,

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will you? He admits, normally I would have told Sean,
but he already knows unless he's just a complete idiot.
And then we got a nice little laugh from writer
Slash Sean. Corey takes off just as Sean puts his
arm around Claire and assures her she can trust Corey,
I like this too. This, I like this element of it,
which is like, this is the you're good with this person.

(31:21):
You don't have to worry about this. This person is trustworthy.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
And then we're into Chubbies. Sean and Corey are studying
a rare occasion on this show, but Corey is furiously
tapping his pencil, staring at Sean accusingly. Sean gets the hint. Yes,
Corey blurts out, We've always told each other everything, and
Sean quickly cuts him off, telling him to let it go.
Corey emphasizes, you and a girl spent the night together
without me. Sean tells him this isn't something you just

(31:46):
talk about. Corey continues, Is it because you've moved up
to a higher level of intimacy with women and I'm
still walking around with my address in my pocket? Sean says,
it is a tough address. Three to two one.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Wrote that down three two one, okay, two one something
something somewhere Vennsylvania.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Where everyone's either from the south, from New York.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
From New York, or from down South. Everybody's side yard
is a backyard. We're at three two one something.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Sean tells him not to do anything just because of him.
But Corey emphasizes me and to Panga have been going
out since like the day I was born, and all
we've done is.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Kiss already that myth maker.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
First reading revision probably or one of them. Yeah yeah,
I think he tells Sean it's time they take it
to the next step, and Sean hesitantly says okay, and
then Corey awkwardly asks, so what is the next step?
And then we're in the Matthews living room. Corey is
practicing for his big night with Tapanga, carrying a cheese tray.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I love that he's dressed like a forty five year
old man too, with a Boardard's sake, the flowers.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I know, but this is also still my favorite Corey.
Oh yeah, nervous but trying. It's like a false confidence
kind of Corey talking to himself as he's coming down
the stairs, and it's still my favorite Cory.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
I also love that this feels very much like a
season one episode in the sense that Corey feels like
everyone else understands the world. How does everyone what to do?
I am just floundering, Like I love that. I think
it's so good. So by the way, these are the
same flowers he brought for Sean. They're in a different vase,

(33:32):
but I did want to point out they are. I
think they're yellow Dahlia's.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
But he's regifting's.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
They're either the exact same or he just bought quite a.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Buquet.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
He did not know the secret.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Of the way.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
He didn't know. No, I didn't understand.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
No. I love that he's like practicing the coat thing,
like could take your coat or whatever. And then that
pays off when he takes exactly Claire's coat, and I
was like, such a.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Jeff Sherman touch little ribbon, you know. So yep, Corey
is saying to himself, Hello, may I take your coat?
You like my outfit? What these old things? Then the
doorbell rings and Corey continues to practice his dialogue. He
opens the door to Tapanga and recites his opening line, Hello,
may I take your coat now?

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Danielle?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
You seemed so tiny when that door opened. Did you
strike you, guys, how small you are? It was just
your whole existence. It was like you are so like tiny,
You're thin and little, Like my god, you.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Are small this whole time. So I'm I'm now only
still five to one, and I don't think I was
too much shorter, but I may have only been five
feet Like, that's a that's a.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Tiny Did you weigh seventy I weighed.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
I weighed nine either ninety six or ninety eight pounds.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Geez, you just.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Look like shot the door open, and your face looks
very much you you actually look in this episode for
one of the first time you you really look. And
also the faces you make to Corey. I kept being like, oh,
that's Dan Danielle making me sort of like kind of
knowing mature. It was like it was cool, but like
at this moment, I was like, you are a child. Yeah,

(35:10):
I guess maybe because it's set up in this like
sexual date thing. And then to open the door, I
was like, no.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
It.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Doesn't help that they put me in like a baby
pink car. Again, like they.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Dressed her very probably smart.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
It was the way to Penga has been dressing, has
been dressing with tied up shirts and skin to little pants,
and then she comes over here and she's got like
a baby pink cardigan on.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Well, you're undercover from your seventies' spy team, so.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Exactly right to know that's exactly right, So she points
out that she's not wearing a coat, probably because I
can't act in a jacket and without hesitation, and robotically
he responds, ah, you like my out. She asks if
he's okay, and he finishes his dialogue in despair. What
these old things? So cute? Asks Cory what he wants

(36:01):
to do tonight, and he says they can go see
a movie, grab a burger, or just go up to
his room and just you know. She asks what they
do in his room, and he wonders if she's seen
his new CD changer. She reminds him she was there
when he bought it.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
He explains, all right, let's let's talk about CD changers.
Can we just have a it's a CD changer? Do
you remember your CD?

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Of course?

Speaker 5 (36:20):
This was the biggest thing that I bought when I
was a teenager. Okay, go go go.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
You tell when I booked my first ever job that commercial.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
My mom said, I'm gonna let you take five hundred
dollars and by anything you want. And I spent four
hundred and ninety nine dollars on a five disc.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
The table ones, yes, and it's spent, you know, and it's.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Spun, put it on and they spin around and it
had knobs to adjust. Oh, it was glorious.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Okay, So then I remember in the car will did
you have one in your car too? Like the mask
ten disc magazine that went in the in the trunks
you had to loaded before you went on a road trip.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
You loaded with the tents and road trucks.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
You loaded that before you went to CVS.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Sure, But then.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
But then I went big.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
When I was seventeen and I had my own apartment,
I got a hundred CD changer.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Do you guys remember these?

Speaker 3 (37:19):
It was the norm? Was it a den on? It
was like, yeah, it was dead. It was.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
It was a giant interchange of CD. Again.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Oh, I kept the thing until two thousand and three,
two thousand and four.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
This was just it was a jukebox. I had a
jukebox at my house. It was the greatest.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Oh, unless somebody left on a CD in there that
I didn't want in there, and then like I'd hit
random and uh, some awful song would come on you.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
I had one of those big CD books that you
kept in the car.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, I still have them.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Still have a you had case logic? Of course you
have the one that attached to your visor. You could
pull down the visor because you know safe you want
to pull down your visor and just slide a disco
out and then be able to put it in there.
But then you also have to have the big one
where everybody can flip through it and pick their music seedyoud.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
You alphabetize it.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Rider.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Do you remember in my car, Daniel? You probably had
never been what we're never in my car, but I
don't right, it was I had the the the deck
was a CD player, but I could pull it out
and put in the tape player. You had to pull
full stereo. So you pull out a stereo and put
it under your seat and put in like the tape

(38:27):
stereo and lock it into place. Crazy stuff. These kids
do not know how good they happen.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
But by the way, this is not a CD changer
in this episode, it's a boombox with.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
A one CD player. It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
It doesn't it doesn't change.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
No.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
In the next scene, he ejects a tray which is
a single tray CD player. Really, yes, we our show
could not afford a CD changer. It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
This is embarrassing.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
It's so embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I didn't even notice it, but I'm embarrassed. I'm posthumously embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, you should face it was either a turntable or
a magazine that eats like a slide in, and neither
one is true in this case. Our profit department, our
proft department are We're amazing most of the time. But
this they really let us.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
This was a fail.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
This was.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
He explains. The CD player is set up now, so
they can go see it in his room. She says sure,
and she starts to make her way upstairs, and quietly
he quietly cheers himself on, but he walks back toward
the couch. She asks if he's coming, and he snaps
back to reality. Oh yeah, me. And then we're into
the boy's bedroom. Welcome back, this comfortable set.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
It's nice too.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
It's like he was having a woman upstairs, so make
sure it's all clean. And you don't ever see the
other bed. Do you just see Corey's bed this time?

Speaker 6 (39:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Tepega walks into a room full of lit candles and
joke and Uh jokingly asks if Corey's having a seance.
He stutter, I love candles. The room is always like this.
Then she notices a book on Corey's bed, loves Sonnets
by Shelley. Corey gets nervous again. He loves poetry and
her use of romantic imagery is very sensual. Tapega tells

(40:13):
him that Shelley was a guy, and he drops the book, saying, yesh,
because in the nineties it was embarrassing to like poetry
by men.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Is that like, Yeah, can't be erotic if it's an
if a guy wrote it, it can't be erotic.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Yes, But also if men write poetry, it's just in
the nineties, that's no. She walks over to the CD
player not a changer A and he she asks if
they're going to play anything. He awkwardly explains that for
the best sound, she'll need to sit over there. He
motions to the bed. It has nothing to do with

(40:48):
the bed. It just has to do with the placement
of the speakers, in the placement of you on the
She finishes bed. She sits and he joins her, and
then turns on the CD player. It begins to play
a children's song, something that someone much younger than Morgan
would listen to. By the way, did she like ten
at this point.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
Yeah, but it could still be left over.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
I could see that left He just he just bought
the new CD changer.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Right, so she would have had to have put it in.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Specifically, have had to go on and say, like just
trying forcing her.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
It's the parents.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
We don't know the dark side of Amy and Allen.
They're just keeping their five.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
You're always gonna listen to Barney again.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Good to Panga smiles. She used to listen to the
song when she was a kid. Corey quickly gets up
and ejects the CD, then throws it out the window.
I was really hoping for a phoenix. I wanted him
to be busy burying bodies in the backyard. But he
didn't say anything, so he must be eating.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
It does come back, though, it does also.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Uh, this is where I noticed a hat hanging on
the wall in the back near the bed. It's a
logo athletic Philadelphia Eagles splash snapback hat. It's a very
specific looking at all. It is a very sought after
vintage hat.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
More sought after than the OJ Simpson jersey sign jersey.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
But I will tell you that hat is available on
eBay right now for four hundred dollars. Oh wow, so
very very serious.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
It's you could have gotten a CD changer or that
hat or that hat.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
What the time, that hat was probably only like twenty
five dollars. I had that fan smarter investment, totally totally.
He puts in a different CD and classical music starts
to play. Topanga asks, that's really pretty. What is it?
Corey admits, I don't know. It came with my mom's Volvo. Again,
just lout great, best and then Topenga starts to kiss him.

(42:55):
It's getting pretty hot and heavy, and then a man's
voice cuts in, Welcome to the safe and Secure world
Volvo ownership brilliant. He starts to describe the Volvo safety features,
and Corey tells Topanga we should get that car, before
swiftly changing the CD and then romantic music starts to
play and the two goat to making out. A few
seconds later, Corey fumbles around with the back of Tapanga's shirt.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
She said, yeah, this is where I was like, whoa, yeah,
the shirt, it's I mean, yeah, do you remember shooting
this at all a little bit?

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah, I mean it was.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
By this point, you and Ben are totally comfortable that
you've worked it all out, totally.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Comfortable with each other. I don't remember there being any awkwardness.
I also remember that I'm wearing like a tank top
under my sweater, and that sweat that tank top was
like tucked into my pants. So even if Ben, if
the sweater got lifted too much, I don't even think
you would have seen skin like I remember it being
it feeling very very PG like I didn't and Ben

(43:56):
and I were very comfortable with each other. And I
also know I'm no ninety nine point nine to nine
percent sure there was no audience, so there was no
awkward feeling of like there being a bunch of people
or you know, it was. It felt very safe.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, risk gay though, risk gay for boy meets wor
Old on a Friday night.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
I know, look at us, She stops him Corey. He responds, yeah,
it's me. She continues, What exactly did you think was
going to happen here? Corey lies, Oh, you're talking to
me like I planned this. She points out the bowl
of grapes at the end of the bed. Defeated, he admits,
I'm trying so hard here. She says to do what

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Corey says, Well, I just think we're old enough. Tapanga says, again,
old enough to do what? And then he says, I
think we're old enough like I just think we're old
enough like Sean. And that's when I love that. Topanga
gets a little bit more upset, and she says, what
does Sean have to do with this?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:52):
He then blurts out that Sean had a girl over
last night that he hardly knows, but Corey and Tapanga
have known each other their whole lives and that they
love each other. He said we should be at like
Ninth Base by now. Taffanga is visibly upset. Why so
you can keep up with your buddy, Corey tells her no,
he just thinks his buddy had a good idea. This time,
Tapanga is bummed and she thinks she should probably go.

(45:13):
Now Corey says, no, you stay, I'll go. I'm so pathetic.
I'm throwing myself out, leaving Tapanga alone with the grapes.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Good scene. I don't know what Ninth Base is.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
I don't either. He doesn't either. That's another thing. It
doesn't exist. He doesn't know the basis right, it doesn't
even I mean he had to ask Sean what comes after? Kissing.
What do you do next? What's that? So he really
doesn't know. And then we're at John Adams High. Sean
and Claire are talking on a nearby bench as Topanga
walks through the halls and greets Feoenie. Miss Laurence. Corey
is slumped against his locker and says hi to Topanga

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and gets a very cold Corey. In response, Corey's sidebars
with mister Phoene. She's obviously very busy, what with her
classes and having to go to them. Phoene agrees, and
eventually Corey shouts, are you blind in the eyes? Man?
She hates me?

Speaker 5 (46:01):
It's so funny.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Poenie admits I can see there's trouble in Paradise. Then
he pulls something out of his pocket. On a happier note,
this compact disc sailed into my living room last night
and landed on.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
My wall, credenza, my wall.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Costume jewels, Oh the best. Corey apologizes he was aiming
for the moon. Feenie emphasizes he doesn't normally get involved
in the personal affairs of his students, but the two
of them are just so cute together.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
I thought this was going to be They were going
to take it like a joke where FENI was going
to say something like, oh, the two of you are
so cute together, but.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
That's the thing he plays. It's so real.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
It's amazing, like, you guys are so cute together, and
I just really wanted to work. And it's the thing
that went through my head was Foeni knows everything, so
he already knows they're going to end up together and
get married. Yeah, he he knows everything, and he's like,
you're so cute to get it was so such an
I thought Bill was going to go one way with it.
He went somewhere completely different and it was awesome. Yeah,

(47:09):
it's very The lighter side of Phoenie was great.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
So Phoene asks what can I do? Corey says nothing.
I'm not gonna come to her and she's not gonna
come to me. Phoenie advises him that regardless of hurt feelings,
he should keep the lines of communication open. Corey admits
Phoenie does seem to know everything, so he'll try his
little communication thing. Corey then walks over to Topanga and says,
if what I did was out of line, I think
we should be able to communicate. Tapega simply responds, I

(47:35):
don't know what to say to you. Out of ideas,
Corey whispers to Feenie, what else you got to which
Phoene shakes his head in confusion and walks away. Tapega
slams her locker shet and also walks away. Corey admits,
on the upside, I can make everyone shake their head.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
It's just nice.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Sean walks over, prompting and angry Corey. I hope you're happy.
Sean's confused. I'm blown it with Tapanga and it's on
your head. I made a move on Topanga and she
got upset, like we're not supposed to be doing that,
even though I told her that you had a girl
spend the night at your place. Sean cuts him off.
You told her about Claire.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Before before that, writer, you have a great beat the
What and then yes, yes, let me get you know,
let me get this, let me get let me get
this straight what. That was a very good comedy beat.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
The which is also this scene is exactly when angry
Corey is great, because it's like it's like he's self
righteous in the worst possible way. We've seen why he
feels this way. We were with him in that. We're like,
oh man, everybody's upset with Corey. We don't, and yet
he's made a mistake. He's put it, he's put himself
in this position, so we're like rooting for him to
get himself out. It's it's just great. And then like, yeah,

(48:44):
that fact that Sean has, like that Corey has lived
an entire television show without Sean knowing what is going on.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Sean's like completely immediately you're talking about and next week,
the following week, the trophy for school spirit is being awarded.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
There was a blood drive. Next week, somebody's getting a
triple fat browy.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
So yeah, of.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Course, of course, good good to know. So Corey sheepishly
says yes, and Sean is furious. He promised he wouldn't
tell anyone. Corey tells him it's just a panga, but
Sean says, we're talking about trust, but you don't know
what that means, do you. Also, Corey didn't mention Claire's
name to tapanga.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
There's a lot that's weird with this, and it's all real,
but it's weird.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
I feel like it's important.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
That's an important, no distinction, it is, but it's also
your best friend doesn't tell you, doesn't have to say
what's going on.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
He doesn't have to specifically say she's getting.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Beaten by her father. But Corey, there's nothing going on
between the two of us. I promise you. She just
needs to get out of her house for a little while.
Something like that is all a best friend needs to
say to his buddy to make sure that this doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
And then after.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
That, your buddies also got to know that it's kind
of marriage. The way they've now revised Corey in Topanga,
where if you tell Corey something you know, Topanga is
gonna find out no, yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
It's Corey.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
They've now set that up where it's like, if you
tell somebody something your girlfriend, your longtime girlfriend's gonna ask
Corey to trust you know, yea, without saying what it was.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
But I don't think I don't.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
I'm not saying Sean's holy right either. I'm just saying,
like I can understand everybody's issues.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
That's what I'm saying. No, I get it too, I
get That's why I'm saying. It's very strange. You're getting
everybody miscommunicated, is what I'm saying and yeah, it was
very real betrayed, Like I mean, him deciding that it's
that he's.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Like deserves to go farther with Topanga because.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Like Sean led him to believe, all he had to
say was nothing happened. Sean did not dissuade him from
the fact that he had slept with her, so had
he just said, like they even have a conversation where
he's like, don't do anything because of me. If he
just added Corey, it's not what you think. Nothing happened
between two of us. That's it's all you need, not
anything specific, then none of this happens.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
I think Sean has too many Sean is really not
even paying attention to the fact that that's too much
what Corey is taking from it. I think he's so
preoccupied with just like I have this big secret I need.
I don't want to say any I literally just want
to drop the conversation because too much talking about Claire
feels like a light shined on the situation that he
doesn't want right, but I do think it would. It's

(51:28):
kind of important for Corey to mention like, oh, I
didn't say her name.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I didn't say her name. Yeah, she didn't. It didn't
come up like that. It yeah, because the whole point is.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
That everybody to be protected from her parents knowing where
she is, and if just randomly there being a girl
who spent the night at Shawn's house is a little
It feels like that could have helped Sean feel a
little more comfortable. He could still have been upset. Like
you said, you wouldn't say anything. Don't say anything. You
could still be upset. But it is kind of an
important thing that like, I didn't say her name. I
didn't say her name. Nobody knows, nobody knows what happened. Yeah, Sean,

(52:00):
a girl over, That's all I said. Yeah, So yeah, No, again,
I'm not saying I dislike it. It's just it was a
lot of people. Had they said one more little thing,
everything would.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
That's always always like slight misunderstanding, the snowball change into everything.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Yep, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
So.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Then we're in the Matthew's kitchen. The family minus Morgan
is sitting at the dining table. When Corey comes downstairs.
Amy innocently asks, it's Friday night, aren't you going out
with Tepanga? Corey avoids the question, you know what this
family hasn't done in a long time. Sing Alan is confused,
how about Sean? Corey suggests they singing around. He sways
his parents back and forth and seeing Michael row your

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boat ashore, and then points to Amy. Just the mommies.
Alan asks what happened between him and Sean. Corey responds, okay,
just the friendless, dateless, lonely boys. Cory starts singing, and
Eric happilly joins, all right, here we go, that's so funny.
Corey retreats upstairs and Alan asks Eric what's wrong with

(53:10):
his brother. Eric tells him he's at that age where
it could be almost anything. I wouldn't even know how
to guess. Then we cut to the boy's bedroom. It's
a little bit of an optical flip. Corey's laying in
bed and Eric jumps on top of him. Sean's around
in the bases, and you're still chucking peanuts up in
the stands. Corey admits, I ain't even getting peanuts. Eric wonders,
maybe you're moving too fast. This needs to happen naturally.

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Corey says that it comes naturally for guys like Sean
and Eric. He never even heard about Eric's first time,
Eric responds, remember Mitchell Davis. Corey smits, well, there's an
unexpected surprise. How about you tell me about your second self?

Speaker 5 (53:44):
Funny. I mean, it's a little bit of a gay
pant funny.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
It doesn't seem to be.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Expected.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
And if I'm going to get details, I want details
I can relate to, So tell me about.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
The other about the next time.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
So funny.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
And the kids wouldn't get it right.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Kids would just be like, oh, they're just talking, but
like the adults in the room are like, oh my god, that's.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Right, exactly, very funny.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
I also love that we already by the end of
the scene, we're sure that the relationship between Eric and
and Corey has completely changed. But like, I love that
already at the beginning of this what we just saw
Eric say is I wouldn't even know how to guess
what's wrong with him. But then one second later he
knows exactly what's wrong with him. So he's protecting, he's

(54:31):
he's pretending like, oh, I don't know, But then when
he's in.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
It, they have their own special and I.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Love it because they didn't have that before. And this
road trip that they took over the scene changed everything
really did change the way. Even every episode now has
been written between the two of you, and it's really
nice to see.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
I think so too. These were fun scenes to shoot you.
Every time we had the boy's bedroom, just the two
of us in the boys bedroom were just Ben and
I had so much fun.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
These are really fun scenes.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
Fun So Eric explains that he and Mitch were always
competitive and one day he shows up here with a
brand new bike. Eric describes the bike and Corey remembers, wait,
you had one just like that. Eric nods exactly. That's
why Mitch got his but to one up Eric. Mitch
didn't have training wheels, so Eric begged his dad to
take his training wheels off, but Alan said he wasn't ready.

(55:21):
Turns out Mitch wasn't ready either. The two boys were
racing their bikes and Mitch fell off, slamming his head
into some garbage cans. That's why Mitchell Davis repeated the
sixth grade eleven and that whole run you do there
will is so good, Oh thank you, natural easy performance,
so funny. Corey asks what this could possibly have to

(55:43):
do with his situation, and Eric explains, sex is like
a bike without training wheels. If you try it before
you're ready, you're going to fall off and break your head.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I've heard this line from people over and over and over. Yeah,
this is one that resonated with people where it was
just and.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
It's true, it's true. It's not something you can jump into.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
It's can be a life altering experience, and it's it's
hugely important. And that's the other thing I loved about
this episode was it covered a lot of really important topics,
you know, but but they.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
Were like covering covering losing your virginity as a teenager
in the same episode they're covering child abusive exactly.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
And it worked, well, Yes, it worked.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
It's amazing to have those two topics not obviously not
wrapped up, you can't wrap anything up like this, but
to shine a light on both of them, to give
good advice when it comes to both of them, to
have the storylines intermingle.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
It's really good writing where you can you can pull
both of those off. Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
So Eric throws a basketball backwards, landing it in the
hoop as he walks out. Another one of those.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Not one thing, oh, just thinking about just thinking about
what you guys just said. This is following the episode right,
and it's like when we just take the season four
is amazing, like the way that it's it's you know,
funny dating Eric issues and then this like and it

(57:15):
doesn't it doesn't feel crazy.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
It's actually kind of working. What what a season? What
a season.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
They're definitely expanding the world of boy meets world, which
is which is fun to see, but it's uh.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Yeah, nuts, that's this is the moment then where I
was like, everything about their relationship has changed and adjusted
and it just feels it feels really nice. So Eric
leaves and the window opens, it's Sean. Corey says he
doesn't always have to come in that way, but Sean says,
I like it danger.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
That's the best.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Sean nervously closes the bedroom door, and Corey begs for
forgiveness about the cleare situation. Sean mindlessly says, yeah, friends
for life, you know that. Corey reminds him, I want
you to know you can always trust me. Sean immediately
reveals my parents are back in town. Can I bring
Claire here tonight? Corey responds, Oh, just throw it in
my face. Sean tells him it's not like that. Corey
doesn't believe him. Shawn asks, don't you think that if

(58:04):
I could have told you something, I would have. Corey
tells him he can always trust him with anything you
swear you'll never tell. Sean asks, Cory nodds. Sean tells
him that Claire and him have never done anything. The
reason she's staying at his place is because her dad
hits her. Corey is confused. Sewan explains, at nights sometimes
he yells a lot and beats her up. Cory is shocked.

(58:25):
But her dad is the vice president of a bank,
and I love that they made that such a story point.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Yes, agreed, one hundred.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
This was not some poor you know at the trailer
park and he gets drunken beats her. No, that's that
was a well respected white collar.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Does not discriminate money. Yes, yes, important.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Don't really strike me as that important, but you guys
are right.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
It's very important. It's very important, especially with the points
writer that you have mentioned about the portrayal of some
you know, lower class or whatever you want to call him.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
I dismiss it. You can't say like, oh, that only
happens to poor people who are like me, or.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
The whole point is that she is actually a very
well off, fancy.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
House and he has power, which is one of the
things where in Sean's mind, I can't go toned because.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
He's he's a guy who runs a bank. They're not
going to believe me. I mean, yeah, super important.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Sean shakes his head. Good job, fancy home, A low
life creep. I just can't hide her at my place anymore.
Corey says they should probably go to the police, but
Sean says they won't believe him. He's a kid from
a trailer park and Claire's dad is the vice president
of a bank. Corey thinks they should at least tell
his parents, but Sean cuts him off. He just swore
he wouldn't tell anyone. Sean asks, one last time, can

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I bring Claire here tonight? Cory asks what about her dad?
Won't he be upset if she's not there? What about
her mom? Her mom's scared. She's just pretending it's not happening.
And Claire has gotten really good at sneaking out and
writer to your point before we started the episode where
you said Sean just kind of understands where this kind
of situation. Later, when we realize that Claire is even

(01:00:07):
in denial. This line makes even it's even more impactful
because you've get this. Claire didn't say to him, Yeah,
my dad beats me. It's awful, and my mom's in
denial and she's just pretending it's not happening. Sean knows that, yeah,
from whatever his own way is. He knows what the
parents are doing and how they're handling it, and it's

(01:00:29):
just it's really great. Yep. And then Corey says okay,
saying he'll call Sean when his parents go to sleep.
And then we're in the dark Matthew's living room. Corey
has brought down a pillow and a blanket for the couch,
and then he lets Claire in. He gives her a
brief lay out of the house and tells her he
can grab more blankets if she needs them. Claire ensures
him this is fine, she'll be out before Corey's parents
get up. Corey tells her she doesn't need to do that.

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Claire smiles and notices the family portrait above the fireplace.
She says Corey's parents look like nice people, and he
agrees they are. Claire admires Corey's house as it reminds
her from love to do it for this other girl
here that we talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
We don't talk about her. Now. We have a permanent
five year old at home.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
And in this episode, we have neither of them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
We have neither.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Claire remembers this summer she spent at her aunt's house.
There were flowers everywhere. You'd wake up in the morning
and even before you opened your eyes, you could smell
these flowers, and you just knew that everything was all right.
Corey asks if he can take her coat, and Claire
says that's okay, but when he takes it anyway, it
reveals a big bruise on her arm. She says, I
walked into my door. I'm kind of clumsy. Corey pretends

(01:01:36):
like that happens to him all the time, making light
of the situation, and Claire asks, Sean told you, huh.
Corey responds, I know. It's not my place to tell
you what to do. She interrupts him and asks if
she can have a glass of milk. He walks into
the kitchen and pours her a glass, but when he returns,
she's already asleep.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
He covers her, I thought it since I didn't know
where she was going I thought she was going to
be gone, So I thought she was going to come
back in, and she was gone.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
I thought if.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
That was an early draft or if it was but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I mean again, it's like, kind of where would she go?
But at the same time, I thought, the second she
was exposed, exposed her Yeah, yeah, you know, thrown up
in her face in any way, shape or form, she
she's just gonna bade which is believable.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Yeah, except for the idea that it's one of the
reasons I love that very early on, Sean tells her
you can trust him. I think she trusts Sean so much,
and Sean has done nothing but do her right, make
sure she's being protected. That if Sean told him and
I'm here, I have to trust that this is still

(01:02:39):
a safe place for me and she. I think she
just trusts it so implicitly she feels comfortable enough to
fall asleep in that second. But I agree with you
that my first thought was she's gonna bolt, But I
love that she didn't, and I really do think again,
it all comes down to the fact that she trusts Sean,
and Sean trusts Corey, so she's already asleep. Corey covers
her with a blanket and grabs the small bouquet of
flowers from his from his date with to Panga and

(01:03:00):
he places them right by her head to remind her
of her aunt's house. It's a touching little scene.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
It was so sweet, very very sweet, the whole, the
whole little touch for Corey and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
And great and again this is where those actors, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
And it's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
The lighting is different too, like when you turn down
the lights in a set that you're.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
It's really great.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
But this is where the adult I started watching it
as an adult, and this is where you start kind
of yelling at the screen like, no, this is too big.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
A secret to keep, you can't keep this thing. And
started to get riled up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
You get emotional because you're you're sitting there watching almost
you're we're watching ourselves make mistakes as young people. So
you go you want to yell at yourself when you're fourteen, like, no,
you're not doing the right thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
You know you're not doing the right thing right now.
So yeah, this was I thought this whole scene was amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
And then we're in John Adams high Sean runs to
Corey at his locker. Did clear leave before his parents
woke up. Correy says, yes, his plan of protecting Claire
one night at a time worked for one night. Sean's happy,
but now he's wondering if Corey can leave his door
unlocked again. Corey tries to argue, but Sean says, she
likes your place, she feels safe. There can't you just
do this? Corey tells him you can't just move from

(01:04:10):
place to place because it feels safe, and then he
feels unsafe in the hall, so he grabs Sean and
walks with them to Turner's class, which prompts a laugh
from the audience, which feels totally out of place. It's
just I know that it was a joke about you
can't just kick.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Move place to place, and then we're going to go
to this place, but it was an obscure joke at best,
and probable.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
There have been so few laughs in the episode that
then this one getting a laugh. It actually took me
a second. I was like, wait, why are they laughing?
And then I went back and was like, oh, because
they're making a joke about what he's doing. But it
just I would have almost It just kind of took me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
I was a strange I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Corey asks, did you see what that jerk did to
her arm? We gotta go to the police, Sean refutes,
cops just make things worse. Corey reminds Sean when you
put a cherry bomb in a mailbox and made things
work for him.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Short episode number one exactly, probably the second one.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Sean stole Turner's bike. More cops, more worse, Sean says,
then you see my point.

Speaker 7 (01:05:11):
I love this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Job.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
You're a criminal. The cops were doing their job. We're
going to the police. And although this is a little oversimplified,
I do like that, Yeah, cops make situations worse when
you're a criminal. What they did in that case, and
in this case, the criminal is the dad, and so
the very oversimplified idea is that they'll make it worse

(01:05:41):
for the person who deserves it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
It is interesting that we went to cops. The cops
are the source in this entire episode, whereas, like you know,
in most situations, it would be child protective services, right
like you just make a phone call to There are
social services before cops. It's interesting that we never reference
any of that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
We just sort of tell a teacher.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Actually, I think if she's that beaten up, I think
cops would probably be first, and then the police would
involve CPS or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
That is that is true that like say she's over
at Corey's house or at Shawn's house by the time,
if you call CPS, they're probably not going to send
somebody out at one o'clock in the morning. The cops
are probably more immediately.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Respond immediately to a black guy or a bruce.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah, sure, yes, yeah, yeah, I guess it just it
just seems pretty extreme, you know, Like I mean, I
guess you have to be sort of obvious in a
sitcom context or in a television show context.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
But yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
What's so great about this episode is that by using
the Sean Corey relationship and the sort of childish approach
that Shawn is taking to like I can just keep
you know, going back by night. You know, like there's
the the most insidious part about abuse is like the
confusing line. The line is getting blurred, right, like a
parent suddenly being on being the person that's hurting you.

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And like the fact that Sean and Corey don't know
who to like where there's no easy answer, you know,
like that there's all this.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
I just love that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
That's so good, it's so it's such a great way
to like put the audience into the mindset of when
you are a kid or you're going through something like
this where you suddenly you don't know who to trust,
where to go.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
It's it's really great.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
It's it's you know, like that the show is reflecting
the mental state of a child who doesn't know where
to turn, you know, It's created a dramatic intercara intra
character situation where that confusion is the story and like,
and that confusion reflects the way an individual feels when
they don't know who to turn to. It's it's brilliant.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
It's brilliant also by the fact that she comes right
out right here in the scene and she says, if
you go to the cops.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
I'll just lie, I'll just lie. Exactly what can you do?

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
She herself knows what will happen and doesn't want it
to happen, doesn't want to be hurt anymore, but doesn't
want to be taken away, and yet being taken away
is the only way to make sure this doesn't happen again,
and she doesn't want that either, which is exactly what
kids feel.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Is well, yeah, the last thing you want to think
is that your parents, one of your parents actually doesn't
love you or can't show doesn't matter how to love
you or somebody sure, So you have to sit there
and come up with some idea. But I think it
also the thing I loved about this episode two. It
also so shows the dynamic between Corey and Sean, the
power they have as the team. Where Sean is problem

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in front of me, fixed problem in front of me,
and Corey is big picture where it's like, okay, but
what's the overall that we have to worry about to
make this problem go away entirely?

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
And the two of them together and that's what's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Sean is also like break rules, who cares, do whatever
it takes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Corey's like, let's do it right, but I don't know
what's right, so we have to.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Brag that out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
It's just that the two of them together, it just
works so well in this in this episode's great.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Yeah, so Claire says, if you call the cops, I'll
just lie. Corey begs her to do something, and Claire explains,
you come home to the people in that picture and
you know they love you, and my dad loves me too.
He just has all the stress at work and I
get in his way at the wrong times.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Rory's killed me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Oh that crushed me when she her delivery was so good,
and she blames herself, and it's so kind of earnest
the way she blames herself.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Oh, it was heartbreaking.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
A watch so good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
Corey's angry. What he's doing to you is wrong. Sean
tries to calm him down, and they zoom in on
Claire's worried face. Corey sighs, yeah, I'll unlock my door.
Sean is relieved and puts his arm around Claire as
they leave the room. And then we're in the trailer park.
It's the middle of the night, and Corey pounds on
the trailer door. Sean answers, didn't Claire show up? Corey says, yes,

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but we revealed Claire behind him with a huge black
eye and a bruised lip.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Ough the makeup.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I mean, just just to talk about the makeup, because
the second you see.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Her you are gutted.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Yeah, I mean, it's this is what they didn't make
a you know, we've we all seen kind of the
small black eyes they can give you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
I mean they look like they beat the hell out
of this girl.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
It was horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
A grown man, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Punching somebody, and that's what they did. They did not
hold back. It wasn't a slight little caught on her
lip or something like that. I mean, they went for it,
and it is. It's a gut punch. You can see.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
It's. Oh yeah, it was brutal, brutal.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
She says she's fine, It's not as bad as it looks.
Sean runs to hugger. He's so sorry he should have
been there. He leads Claire into the trailer, promising her
dad will never do this again. Corey says, Sean can't
promise a thing like that. He knows Sean wants to
do the right thing, but he's been wrong this entire time.
Claire pleads, listen, in a year and a half, I'll
be off at college. Until then, I'll just stay out
of his way. Sean says, you haven't been doing a

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real good job of that so far. Claire asks, see,
you're against me now too. Sean says she doesn't deserve this.
Nobody does. She sits down and her voice gets shaky.
I didn't do anything to him? Why did he have me? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
Ugh yeah, ugh.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
She was so good in this episode. M so good
in this episode.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
And I would like to point out that these are
the moments that people really seem to ignore when they
comment on our Instagram or you know, in our emails
about it's just a kid's sitcom and it shouldn't be
taken too seriously wrong. There are so many moments like

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this that happen over the course of the seven seasons
of Boy Meets World that we take the show seriously
because the show is good enough to be taken seriously yep.
And sometimes that means there are times when we think
it's missed the mark a little bit because we know
what it's capable of. And now, granted, I'm not saying

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every episode should be like this. As a matter of fact,
this would be a terrible show if every episode was
like this. But this is something more than just your
normal Friday night sitcom, and it should be treated and
looked at as something more important than just that. So
just a brilliant show. And then we're in the Matthews

(01:12:21):
living room. Sean and Corey walk into the house, cleaning
up the pillows and blankets left on the couch. Corey admits,
it's a good thing my parents aren't up yet, and
then Alan's voice appears, Yeah, it's a good thing we're
still asleep. Amy turns on the lights to reveal both
of them sitting on the stairs. Corey panics, handing Sean
the blanket and pillow, saying it's nice to see them.
Alan asks anything we need to know before we wake up.
Sewn assures them it has nothing to do with the

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pillow and blanket he's holding. Corey says, we were taking
care of a friend who was being roughed up by
her dad. Alan asks Claire Ferguson and Sean can't believe
it you told them. Alan responds, he didn't tell us.
Sean Amy continues, she left her book here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Can I say?

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
I'm so glad they did this because they easily could
have done. Corey told his parents, which you know, at
the end of the day, is the right thing to do,
but he still was loyal to Sean totally, and at
the end of the day, he didn't that the parents
found out on their own. They again easily could have
written it. Where they walk in and Corey's like, I'm sorry, Sean,

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this was too big a secret.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
I had to tell my parents. But they didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
He's stuck by Sean the whole way, and they found
out on their own, and I thought that was a
kind of a cool way to go about it. You
don't think it's kind of a cheet No, I don't
I to have your cake and eat it too exactly.
But it's also there's also the layer of as much
as you think you can pull the wool over your
eyes of your parents, a lot of times they know
something's up totally. And so there is that kind of

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layer of I'm going to stick with Sean. I'm I'm
he doesn't want me to say anything. I promised I
wouldn't say anything. We told each other now four times
in this episode you can trust me or I've got
to trust you, or something like that. So they they
paid that off where or he didn't tell his parents.
I know they came up with an idea together.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
It's not necessarily bumping me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
It's just it's very convenient, you know, Like I think
it's avoiding the issue that you're bringing up, which is.

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
Sean, you know, the trust.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
At some point, Corey is going to have to violate
either his relationship with Sean or his relationship with his parents,
right Like he's he's being he's being forced into that
position by Sean.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
So yeah, But the.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
The alternative thing, the see option is that Corey is
going to to continue to push Sean until Sean makes
the right the right thing, the same way Phoene does
to Sean in Janitor Dad. Sure, and I so I think,
and I think that's that's a good way of going
about it. You know, if you you don't have to
tell your friend what they have to do, but you

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can continue to encourage them to do the right thing.
And I think that's ultimately what Corey was going to do,
Like I'll keep your secret for you, but ultimately you're
going to have to come to this decision on your own.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Keeps pressuring him correctly, and then they come up with
and they they then they come up with a solution,
which at the end of the day is still very childish,
and it takes the adult to walk in and go no, no, no, no, no,
this is I get what you guys are doing, not
how we're going to play this. So the kids still
didn't at the end of the day, kind of come

(01:15:20):
to that, to come to that realization and make that
decision themselves. It still took the adult to step in
and go, yeah, I get what your guys are doing not.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
Going to work.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
But they did still leave it up to Sean, and
and Sean does make the decision himself.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Right, I'm going to the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Police, and they say, great, we'll drive you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Alan would have got you know, they would have gone
anyway at that point, but they didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
Have such good dialogue.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Oh, it's so great the fact that it's like, what
are you going to do? What are you going to do?
How are you going to do it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
And it's just Sean saying I'm going to do the
right thing because I'm choosing to.

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
And they're like, great, we will just let's go help you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
Yeah, but Sean explains she wanted to keep it a secret.
We decided to respect that. Alan tells them, if you've
got a and in serious trouble, the only thing you
have to respect is how to get her the right
kind of help. Sean assures them that they did. Sean
tells them we put Claire on a bus to Vermont.
She's going to stay with her aunt who lives there.
Corey assures them it's a really nice place with flowers,
and it's where she wants to be, So we did
the right thing. Alan wants to know, and what's going

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to stop her dad from bringing her back? Who's going
to stop him? Are you going to stop him?

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Sean?

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Is her aunt going to stop him? Because the distance
is not going to be what stops him. Sean takes
his time before saying I'm going to stop him. Alan
asks how, and Sean says, I'm going to the police.
Alan nods in approval. They'll drive him. Sean looks at
Corey and says, I promised Claire I'd take care of her.
I'm going I'm gonna get emotional reading. Corey nods, now

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you really are, and I cry.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Yeah, it was very sweet. I didn't cry, but I
probably could have.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
I didn't know, Honestly, I didn't remember, and I didn't
know what Sean was going to say. Yes, I didn't
want to stop him. I was like, what how we're
going to stop I I'm going to fight him. I'm
gonna you know the way that Sean is, the way
that I was del Sean is so like passionate. I
was like, where's this going and then he's like, I'm
going to the police. He's like, that's awesome, what great,
What a well written scene.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Yeah, and god, Rusty, We've talked about it a thousand times,
but Rusty's so good well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
And one of the things that does make me so
emotional about it is that, like again talking about the
other layers of this relationship and what it means to
Sean and what Shawn's history. Is Sean being able to
step in and make the right choice to protect her
has to have in some way healed something. There's got
to be something for him that's like something I'm able

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to do for somebody else that maybe if that's the
subtext we're supposed to pick up on, he wasn't able
to do for himself, or he wasn't able to do
for his mother, or I think.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
All Sean wants is somebody like him in this episode
standing up for him, yes, you know, which is what
Turner did in season two, Season three, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and then I think Alan will do in the cult
fiction episode which is coming up this season.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
We're in Corey's room to Panga and Corey are looking
at pictures. To Panga comments it looks really pretty there.
Claire says she's really happy and Vermont. Corey reveals she
started a new school, she's making new friends. Her dad's
in a therapy program, and she says maybe they'll see
each other again someday. To Pega smiles and says she
hopes everything works out for her. To Pega asks why
the house is so quiet tonight, and Corey says mom
and dad are at Morgan's soccer game and Eric's at

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the store. Penga smiles, here we are again alone in
your bedroom. Corey tells her yes, but if she noticed
there are no candles. She smiles and looks at his bed.
What about the grapes? Corey responds, I just like grapes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
And I bought it every single He's got Cory Graving too.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
He continues this thing with Claire. She had to grow
up so fast. I just like being fifteen here with you.
To Panga asks just kissing. Corey nods, Kissing's good, and
I want you to know I would never want to
abuse our relationship. To Panga pulls them in for a
little makeout session, and he asks what was that for.
She tells him just because we're not going to ninth
base doesn't mean we can't take a little lead off

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of first Corey's eyes get wide. Baseball has been very
very good to me. So they returned to kissing, and
to Panga presses play on the CD player begins to
once again play Morgan's Little Kiddie Song to Panga and
Corey smile and sing along with it, booping each other's noses.
And I thought it was very cute ending yes, and
a very nice nod to tying up all of the

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elements of this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
About episode just growing up too fast, Yes, staying you know,
appreciating staying young when you have it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Yeah, And then like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
It's it's a really perfect thematic little button and it's cute.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
It's not you guys are like connecting.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Yeah, yes, kids, so cute. I love it. So join
us for our next episode. It is season four, episode nine,
sixteen Candles and four hundred pound Men.

Speaker 6 (01:19:55):
It's the sixteenth the rest of the episode, Oh God,
to remember this, this is where you go to the Okay, wow,
is this is this Ethan's final episode?

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
Maybe maybe Ethan's And I think it's and it's and
it's another.

Speaker 5 (01:20:13):
One with say he came back for the graduation.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Oh right, right right, oh right right? Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
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