TGI – Episode 501 “Brothers” - Pod Meets World

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
I don't know if it seems shocking to you, but
we're here, We're at season five.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
How's impossible?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Five?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
In so many ways, I feel like we started this
podcast two months ago, and in other ways, I feel
like we started this podcast twenty years ago.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Twenty years ago. I feel the same. Well, I do
exactly the same thing. I'm like, man, and then I
look back. I have so I have a poster on
my wall of our first live show, right, and I
look at it, and I look at the date, and
I'm like, wait, as twenty twenty two, Like wait, it
was the end of twenty twenty two, Like we just
started this.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
How is this possible?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
That's just mind boggling to me. Crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
So do you guys remember the summer between seasons four
and five?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
What did you do? Tell me about your summer?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
What year would that have been? So ninety seven?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Our next episode that we're talking about is aired October tenth,
nineteen ninety seven. So yeah, this is the summer of
ninety seven, which means I got my license. Oh and
I was driving everywhere?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Did you drive to Hawaii? Did you drive to why?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
This time? I did not drive Dawai not possible. But
I drove everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I was doing every single thing I possibly could, going
to the grocery store for my mom over and over again.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Uh yeah, just an excuse to drive, any excuse to drive.
Did you have a car when you did you have
your own car?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
When you first got.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Your own car? I got a Toyota four Runner.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
That I read loved.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
It was black.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I got a Chevy Trailblazer as my second car. You
knew that that was the one, You're thinking it was? Okay,
got yeah, Yeah, that's it. This would have been the
summer of Danielle driving, which was just the greatst thing
that had ever happened to me up until that point.
My life was completely made The minute I had my
driver's license and could drive with I drove with.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
All my windows down. I had a sunroof.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
The sunroof was always open, and I just drove, drove,
drove everywhere I could.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
M I, uh, if it's ninety seven, I went this
was Trojan War. No, we went to Amsterdam. We did
YEP in ninety seven.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Well trip, I mean I did him. I either did
my date with the President's daughter or Trojan. I did
something in.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
The in the in ninety seven. I don't know. Well, yeah,
I think you already talked about doing Trojan more than
the year before, right the President's daughter.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
This is when we went to Amsterdam. Was right after
the season, and did would have been when we went
to Amsterdam, And yeah, you would have been in Amsterdam
this whole summer. This would have been the summer that
you didn't want to come back.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
That you didn't come back.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
But I still okay, yeah, but I still did a movie.
I did a movie every year, so I know. And
I'm wearing the necklace I saw, which means I'm dating love,
which leads me to believe that I did.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
This was the summer you did Trojan War. Okay, I
think so. We So then we finished our our season,
you and I went to Amsterdam. I guess you know,
Well I stayed for I stayed for Well, we had
what five months off in between.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
You wrap in March, But you couldn't.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Have done Trojan War and fell into an Amsterdam hole. Well, no, answered,
because Trojan War.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
We only Trojan War was a twenty eight day shoot,
so it would have been one of the months.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
So then we went to Amsterdam. After that no, probably
before and I probably no, I don't know how. That's
what I mean. I know that this.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
I believe this was the season where we shot out
of order because when I first met Matt Lawrence, because
I was doing a movie, and because of the movie,
I had to miss the first week of taping. So
I went back and I pre taped or or retaped
some stuff with Matt for the season. So I think

(03:54):
it was my date with the President's daughter that I
shot right at the end of hiatus, bleeding into the
first season leading into season five.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Right, So this year the season ended we I graduated
high school in a kilt? Did that kil?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Did you have underpants on?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
No? No? No, no? Of course authentic? It was me
and Ocean graduate graduation. Yeah, all you know. I was
valedictorian of all twelve students.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Wow, I did not know you were valid. You're a
very very tiny high school speech I was.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I did a poem. I wrote a whole poem for
the school.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Please meet it now? What was it?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I can find it? Can you read it in your kilt?
Put on my kilt? I still have the kilt, of course.
Did you wear My mom made it?

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Jorn, what do they call this the thing that hangs
in front of the kilt, the leather bag.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Isn't it called thorn? Or yeah? That would have been cool.
Yeah yeah, okay it was in People magazine came and
covered my graduation. So you can actually find photos of
me and Ocean like in a kilts about to go
on stage. Yeah yeah on earth. You wait, you at
a stage set up when there's twelve people graduating, Well
there was. You know, there's only fifty sixty kids in

(05:11):
the whole school, and every year every kid got an
award of some sort, like everyone got recognized. So it
was ceremony. All the kids got something like some notification,
some award. That was was so great about the school.
It was very individualized, you know, so everybody got recognition
for something. But then of course, yeah, the graduating class

(05:31):
got to do speeches and whatever. You know who won
best Grappling hook that year? Me? You Didian, I'm just
making okay. So I graduated and I did the movie
My Giant. I went off to Prague to do that. Yeah,
so I think what happened? Will? I think we did

(05:51):
went to Amsterdam like right as boy ended. So it
would have been February of right away. So we took
away from school to go do that. I know because
I was you know, calling I'd just been broken up
with by Rachel and I was calling her from Amsterdam
to try and get her back. That was that whole moment.
So that was then. Then came home, graduated high school,
then went into Prague, shot my Giant which was so

(06:14):
much fun, and then yeah, spent the summer in sebastopool.
This would have been the year that my friend I
lost like one of my best friends because he stole
my DM card. Yeah, it was a big summer, it was.
And then I came back for season five, starting college.
So this would have been the beginning of me going

(06:36):
to Occidental College here in La in the mornings, and
that meant I had a dorm room. So by the
time we started this season, right when we started the season,
I was becoming a college student. And you know at
Occidental in the dorm right, Yeah, they they required you
to have a dorm room, like as freshman. So I
had to have a dorm room. Even though I still
had a you know, lot apartment down town, La. I

(07:00):
was living in three differ because I would still go
home every weekend because all my friends were up there.
So I would fly home, which one can I hang
my kilts Tonight. I would wake up at four in
the morning, go to the Oakland Airport, fly down to Occidental,
sleep for like a couple of hours in the dorm room,

(07:20):
go to classes, and then go do Boy Meets World
Monday afternoon, and then you know, do that every so
every day I would have morning classes and then go
to work at Boy Meets World for rehearsal and then Yes,
so it was a lot like when I think back,
I'm like, how what was going on? And what's crazy
about it is? When I think about this time while
I was doing all this you know, mind blowing education

(07:42):
and a TV show, I also just had such an
active social life. Like I think about all the times
I was hanging out with people and meeting you know,
friends I still have to this day, and all my
college friends. It was just so crazy. I'm sorry. Year seventeen. Yeah, yeah, seventeen.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Also, it sounds exactly like your life now.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
It does.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
You have so many things going on, a very active
social life, and then you have two best friends who
live mostly like hermits.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah great.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I as always went to Mauie came back. You can
tell I'm nice and Tan and uh spent the entire
summer at the beach. My best friend Vanessa Evigan had
a Ford Explorer. It smelled really good, always like a
bath and body works.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Uh you know, spray.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
And Vanessa Evigan makes an appearance in the season season
five with us and uh, yeah, it's just a it
was hot girl summer for two high school girls and
it's just the just you know, the.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Greatest good times. But you didn't drive to away, which I.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Think is just trying hard, lazy, totally lazy.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm right
or Strong, and I'm Wilfred Dell. So welcome to this
episode of Pod Meets World. We are here to recap

(09:08):
season five episode one, Brothers the synopsis, Much to Corey's dismay,
despite leaving for college, Eric moves back home while Shawn's
half brother Jack looks for a way back into the family.
It was directed by Alan Myerson the first time, first episode.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
All right, So Alan Myerson came in as our sort
of in house director and did like ninety percent of
the episodes Andy. What's so interesting about that is that
we had never met him before he came and did
this season, which is yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
I know, because he did Larry Sanders Show, which I
was a huge fan of with Gary Shanling. He'd won
Emmy's I mean, I think at the time he was
also doing uh News Radio, which you know is a
great show. So I mean he loved He was.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Very different energy, very different energy, along very but like
a dry wit. And yeah, man, he he just introduced
me to so much music and poetry, like we just
really got got. Some actors did not like working. Some
actors did not. Actors had a real problem with Alan Myerson.
I was not one of them.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
He and I spoke the same language and he joyed
it had the same vibe.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
But there are some actors that really did not like Alan. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, Well, hopefully we will hear from those actors. Maybe
they'll want to talk about it, maybe they won't. Maybe
maybe it'll remain remain a mystery, maybe it will not.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
The episode was written by Matthew Nelson. It's starring introduction
of Matthew Lawrence as Jack Hunter Mattie part of a
Hollywood Yes, part of a Hollywood family, a legacy of
sorts with his brothers Joey and Andy, all three dominated
TV and movies in the nineties. Matt had already appeared

(10:52):
on Gimme a Break In, Planes, Trains and Automobiles, Missus Doubtfire,
and the family's own sitcom, Brotherly Love, and once Brother
Love was canceled, he just walked right onto Our set,
where he would appear in almost seventy episodes right up
until the show's finale. So guest starring Blake Clark returns

(11:14):
chet Hunter, outlasting so many returning guest stars before him.
We have Glenn Hirsch as the delivery Man. He was
a stand up comedian who came up with Jerry Seinfeld
and Paul Reiser at the Improv and toured with singers
like Dolly Parton and Kenny Loggins, but he only had
four TV credits. And then there's Laurln Peterson as Miss Valentine.

(11:36):
This was her first acting gig, A former model who
also appeared as a showgirl in The Inspector Gadget Movie,
and then Harmony Smith also as Teacher.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Another former model, She.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Had been Mystery Babe on Parker Lewis Can't lose and
fem number one in melrose Place, and would later appear
in two episodes of Weird Science and in the Mike
Nichols movie What Planet Are You From, starring Gary Shandling
and Annette Benning.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
So do you guys want.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
To talk at all about your overall thoughts before we
jump into our recap?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
It was a weird episode to jump in on. I mean,
just season five. Wow, Okay, let's get used to this.
I really did not like I was hating it. I
would say the first ten minutes, first half, and then
I loved it. I thought the ending was fantastic. I
really thought. I really thought it came through in the end.

(12:33):
Not a very funny episode. No, And yeah, I mean
I can you know, I think that from here on out,
it's gonna be me pretty unhappy with my performance throughout
the seasons. So I was, you know, like, oh, then
now we're into this, this rider, this sean, So I'm

(12:55):
not stoked about that. But I won't beliebor the point.
But I think I was just busy. I think I
was checked out. I think I had other things on
my mind. But I can see some bad habits and
all that. But yeah, I did. I really didn't like
the beginning of this episode at all, But I really
really love Blake and I think this is probably his

(13:15):
best performance. He's great, and it's obviously not his best
comedic performance, but I think he has evolved so much
as an actor. In this this episode, he just has
some of the best understated drama. And then of course Rusty.
I didn't you know, didn't remember the Rusty storyline, and
like the two of them coming together at the end
really saved this episode for me.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah, I kind of agree with a lot of what
you said. First of all, funny story, I'm so Sue
and I are doing this thing where we're trying to
watch movies that were important to one of us back
in the day that the other person hasn't seen.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Great.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
So yeah, so this weekend, you know, very important movie
for her in the eighties that I hadn't seen.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Me watch sant Elmo's Fire for the first time. I've
never seen him before. Yeah, it's it's a movie.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, and who pops in young Blake Clark, big, you know,
great role, and he owns sant Elmo's Fiery, owns the bar,
and I'm like, oh my god, it's Blake. So just
to bring it back to that, I hated the opening of.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
The Fantasy sequence.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
What I thought was absolutely ridiculous and just so stupid
and and it's not even about like looking at it
from uh you know, woke eyes or looking at it
from the future. Going back like that doesn't age Well
that that wasn't good then sorry, it just wasn't.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
It costs so much money, it took so much energy.
Oh my god, like one note joke.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
And Feenie bringing Feenie in for the first time. I
get what they were doing, but I just I didn't
like it. And then that sequence ended and I really
liked it. I thought the kind of the opposite of
what you thought writer about myself, where I feel like
my performance, I'm starting to feel very comfortable now in
my performance, so I felt good about that. I love

(14:59):
working with Russ the I thought Betsy was very good
in this episode too. So after getting through that, it
was like an oh moment for the opening title, like
the first of the opening titles. Awesome, we get the
new opening titles.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
But then going through there's my thoughts on the opening
title though, I was like, wait, you looked at the
last season a boy Beachworld and thought, let's add a dude,
Let's get another guy.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
And I was like, what, you know what we're missing?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Are you another another brother? Floppy hair? And it's also
another brother, other guy with floppy hair, and it was
another family member for Sean. It's like, how many It's ridiculous,
Like you just watch I you know. Of course I
only remember the season six or season seven opening credits
was the gang, right, like where there are three women
and instead I was like, oh, it's just four dudes

(15:45):
and Danielle. Look that is the gang hanging out, Like,
come on, get another woman in there. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
But it was nice to not have the the last
opening title I was.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I was over the last opening title sequence. I want
it back, I want back. I should have just digitally
inserted Matt Lawrence into it, just on the back of
the car, sitting in the back like racing after the
car trying to catch up with us would have been
perfect it.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Overall, there wasn't part of me that's your all you
liked it overall. There was a part of me that
really missed the old credits. I had gotten used to them.
I missed the surfer acid rock whatever, that is there
was there's the energy of it I kind of missed,
but also there was a very like comforting feeling hearing
that song and seeing those credits where I was like, Wow,
this is really what feels comforting to me about it.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
So that was fun.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Do you guys remember shooting these and like the water
do you remember all of that?

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, wasn't this Jody wasn't Jody Binstock going around with
the camera, So we didn't know. So Jeff told us that,
you know, McCracken shot this, Yeah, and Jody Binstock was
it was she. He told us, Oh, she's shadowing me,
and she's like, you know, a director, and she's gonna
have a camera just to kind of so she so
we didn't know that a lot of this.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
They were going to use, and it was a sixteen
millimeter camera, so that's why it has that cool film
grain too, and it looks very different than the show.
And she was filming secretly and that ended up being
all the footage for the opening credits, which we thought
we were setting up shots and doing all the sort
of but she was, you know, so it's kind of
just us hanging out exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Do you remember Jody fantastic. Yeah, I'm absolutely fantastic. Yeah,
I am not going to belabor it. I did not
like anything about this episode. I truly maybe my maybe
my least episode of all the time. I'm not sure
I even have one good thing to say about it.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
That's why I feed all the way up until the end.
I really really did not like this episode.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Really, just like, okay, So jumping into our recap, we
start in John Adam's high, being that all three of
us hate this opening.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
It's going to be fun to talk about. Maybe we
can just race through it.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Corey, do you remember this at all?

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Danielle, not even a little bit, Not even a little.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Bit for me either. I was like, this is the
most most I've ever been. I should remember Bill Daniels
as a butler and a chef. And I'm like, I
don't remember any of this, and I think it's because
I hated it. It's terrible. Now, it's so terrible.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
And then they finally see you finally see Tapanga and
she's being brought in by the four.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
It's like, what what the hell is happening right now?
It is so weird.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
So Cory and Sean sprint up to doors that read
Senior Hall. Sean is thrilled. We've waited three years to
go through this door, Corey continues. They say, the senior
floor is like no other are my Shawn, So let
us take a moment and savor.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
They take a big.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Breath, then they exhale in unison. Oh baby, this is
going to be the best year of their lives. They
pushed through the double doors and red curtains appear, with
a glowy light now fogging up the camera.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
A woman, I know, it's a weird thrill.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
There's a vasoline on the lens.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, that's exactly right. Yes.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
A woman on the PA system welcomes them to the
senior floor and we see women in bikinis and miniskirt
cover ups standing in every corner. Two women wearing floral
bikinis walk up to the boys and Kory asks, your seniors.
They giggle.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
No, they're teachers.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Sean swoons, I have so much to learn. The teachers
grab the boys and lead them to a couch. Cory
asks if they can expect it to be a pretty
difficult ear and one of the women responds Swedish massage,
shiachu or.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Should I roll few? Right? Here, which roll I had
to look it up.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's a different kind of massage, isn't.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yes, it is a it is a type of massage,
but I had never heard it before. And also I
was absolutely disgusted by its similarity to the word ralph
for one thing, so like it sounds like do you
just want to projectile vomit right here? But also it
sounds extremely sexual.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Which is how it's supposed to be. They're supposed to.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, between the disgusting nature of that mixed with the
projectile vomity feeling of it was basically how I felt
about the.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Second and to Sean making out with a teacher, you guys,
you guys. I mean, it was an awful opening if
the genders were reversed, if like it was an underage
girl making out with an older man on a couch,
the teacher. Who's the teacher?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
The teacher, the history teacher.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh my god. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
So then Phoene walks out wearing a butler suit and
carrying a tray with two frozen frappuccinos for the boys.
He also has all the answers to every test. If
there was any doubt there was a this was a
fantasy before this moment. Phoene being involved in it makes
it very clear.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Obviously it's higher.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Time I was watching this, I just kept going, poor Bill.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I know I was thinking the same thing. How much
do you think? Bill was like, really, this is what
we're doing at times, and poor Bill.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
That's all I was thinking, was poor Bill.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
So Corey offers Shawn a beverage and he's snuggled up
awfully coat close to his teacher. He laughs, he was
just making out with her. We need to what's the
term we're using to describe the drop shock of season five?
I'm this is the rolfiest open.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah. Covered in roll.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Ben ceremonial music plays as men dressed in gladiator costumes
walk into the hall carrying topanga on a platform. Hi,
I'd love to stay in chat, but I can't. I
have an exam in Roman history. She snaps, and the
boys take her away. Corey wonders how the cafeteria food
will be this year, and right on cue, Phoene walks out,
now wearing a chef's uniform and wheeling a tray of

(21:47):
prime rib. Corey would like a middle cut and an
end cut and be quick about it. Meet boy, phoene
Lock's eyes with Corey, wait till you see what happens
to you in my fantasy, which I did this fun
That was a funny line.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
But the pri looked good.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, That's what I noticed about the scene mostly is
the prime rib looked really, really good.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
The real highlight of the scene was that prime ary.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
It really was.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
I'd also like to point out that in his own fantasy,
like what the Brammys world guys are saying.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
In his own fantasy, Cory's with another woman.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yes, And to Panga, his girlfriend is in a long
sleeve button up to her neck, a pair of jeans
being carried away by four other men.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Four other men. It's a weird fantasy.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's a weird it's a weird situation here. Then the
PA voice returns. Boys, you've put in a lot of
hard work today. Now it's time to graduate. The bikini
teachers place graduation gowns on the boys, and Phoeni walks
out with a diploma. But then the bell rings were
brought back to reality. Is Corey and Sean now stand
in a very generic albeit slightly different John Adams Hallway.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, it's the point.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's interesting. We've changed. It's almost like we've changed where
the fourth wall is. It's like we've picked up the
set and rotated it. Yep, yeah, which is I was like, oh, yeah,
that's right. I remember the previous set more. I remember
me too, previous set a lot more than I remember
being in this set and a number of scenes or
my brain stayed. But I saw this set, I was like,

(23:13):
that's right, we did rotate it. It was a new set.
I barely remember it.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
And it makes sense because this is the hallway we
see in all those famous and then there were.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Sean exactly, Oh I was in that, okay, and so
you were in that set.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
But it is funny because it's never struck me what
hallway is that? But you're one hundred percent right rid
for me too. I barely remember this hallway version, but
I really remember the previous one.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
So writer, you wouldn't do this because you didn't go
to a regular high school.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
But Danielle, did you have a senior hallway?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Of course no, we didn't either, Like did they just
make this up for the show? Is this a thing?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
What I what I thought was really funny is that
it fits perfectly with the jokes We've been making all
four seasons about how many floors are there. There's a
whole senior floor.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Now we're entering, it's like it's a tower growing.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Well, well, we'll know, but that when when the people
write in if this is a real thing, if the seniors.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Lesson, it's up to you.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, weird.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah, I guess it does exist.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
But we shouldn't still be Melissa. Should we should we
pick a new fan for season five?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
All right, Steve, and it's you.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, So the boys, disappointedly look around as Corey gives
us a huh and lies, Yeah, this is pretty much
how I imagined it. Sean agrees, and they hurry off
to class. All right, season five, Here we go, Here
we go, Well we're off, We're where off?

Speaker 2 (24:36):
There you go? I mean it is is fitting with
the you know, it's reminiscent of season two where we
were like, no, it's going to be a whole new world,
and you know, then the hits keep coming right right,
But this could have just been a one minute Yeah,
it could have been funny, but then also just a
one minute glimpse, you know, like you open the door
and it's all awesome, and then reality but instead they

(24:58):
really went for it. But again this it can't be
a time issue. Making out with your teacher.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Even in the nineties is wrong.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
So it's like it's you can't even look back at
it and be like, well it was for the times.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
No, no, it was always wrong, But.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
It doesn't mean it wasn't a fantasy of a lot
of grown men. And that's what we're seeing is that
grown men had an opportunity to put what they had
imagined and would have wanted when they were teens into
a show. And you know, I think I think a

(25:38):
good thing to talk about is how sometimes the things
you think would have been your fantasy, had they really happened,
maybe wouldn't have been as cool as you thought it
would have been. And so unfortunately it was just somebody's
opportunity to be like, man, I would have loved that
and put it in there.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
So I'm curious, though, like I'd love to hear from
Steve or our listeners who maybe loved this opening when
they were teenagers, Like I don't know, right, yeah, I
didn't love doing it. I obviously I don't remember it,
and I but I maybe there's somebody out there who
was like some teenage boy was like, yeah, right on, Corey, Goesean,
that's the dream. I don't know. Maybe maybe it worked,

(26:20):
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
I find there's something very interesting When none of us
remember a part of the show.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
I know there's something there.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
When none of I'm literally none of them, was like,
I've never seen this before in my life. I don't
remember shooting it, don't remember you guys doing it, don't
remember hursing nothing.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Well we are in Corey's bedroom now with a totally
different feel and no bed.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
There's was it always a blue carpet?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I don't think so, and I don't remember this wallpaper even,
but there's some new set dressing here is Corey bursts
through the door with enthusiasm, telling Sean, this is what
I've been waiting for my whole life. Eric has left
for college. At the room is finally his last time
we saw everyone. Eric had just been accepted to Penbrook.
Did we not establish that? Okay, so I guess the

(27:05):
point is when we end up finding out in the
next scene he's going to be living on campus, but.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
It was supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, where is he supposedly been?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
How does the logic of this workout, where is where
is his stuff?

Speaker 3 (27:17):
If he didn't have a.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Room, where has he been and where is his stuff?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, stuff is in the garage, which we now know
is right off of the fourth wall four wall, So
stuff is in the garage I'm assuming, you know, war
and storage or in the bags that he took to
Pembrooke to get his room.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
So he took all of his stuff out put it
in the garage furniture ahead of the actual move day.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
It makes sense for Eric, I guess I think, No,
I don't, it's no. I just the whole time was
going like was the carpet always blue? That's all I
just kept saying. It's like, I don't remember this being blue?
Is it blue? And so he was like, it's a
blue carpet, like I know, but it was always blow.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
So Sean wants to know what's up with all the candles,
and Corey says they're to set the mood for Tipanga.
Sean says it looks like a church, and Corey bites back,
you're ruining the mood. And then two delivery men walk
in carrying a new queen size bed for Corey. On
their way out, the delivery man tells Corey about the
twenty year standard warranty, and he reminds him no means no,
and then the audience laughs like that's a killer joke,

(28:24):
and I'll be honest, I haven't laughed once in the
show thus far.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
So no.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, by the way, you don't want to keep a
mattress over eight years, just for our listener, you don't
want a twenty You don't want a twenty year mattress.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Flip it.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
No, oh no, eight years? Four years on one side,
four years and another. Get rid of your mattress.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
So Corey ecstatically tells Sean this is going to be
the best year of their lives. But then Eric kicks
open the door and announces Daddy's home. Corey looks disgusted, Eric,
what are you doing here? He throws his stuffel bag
on the floor and says he didn't get rid of
my bed.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Did you remember? I remember?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Because I was gone, so we had done I think
the next episode with matt episode two of season five.
I think we shot that first and I missed that
and I reshot episodes because I distinctly remember first run through.
I'd been gone for the first episode. So when I

(29:21):
kicked open the door and went Daddy's home, all the
producers and everybody started.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Clapping, right because you were because I was back.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
For So that's that I remember. That's like the only
memory I have of this entire week was kicking the
door open and everybody clapping. Oh yeah, so it's very sweet.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
And then we're in the Matthew's kitchen. The giant cake
plate is back. Did you loutics it will the corner?

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I thought, I thought the joke's coming with a we
got a kick from the.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Joke.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Eric, in a twenty three shirt, softly referencing Michael Jordan,
is explaining his situation to his parents like he's Jim Carrey.
I thought it was such a straight Jim Carrey impression.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
It was.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yet, so when he arrived at his dorm, they told
him he wasn't on the list. Amy reminds him he
got the forms for housing three months ago. Alan tells
Amy to go easy on em. He's just home for
a visit. Alan offers his son a slice of cake,
and Eric asks him to cut it for him. Amy
suggests that Eric is home for more than just a visit.
Eric winds to his dad. Why is it mommy happy

(30:22):
to see me? Amy? Siys, she is, but he scares
her sometimes. How can you do well in college if
she can't. If he can't even fill out a housing
form with a mouthful of cake, Eric admits, it gets worse.
I check the wrong box on another form. Now they
think I'm an eskimo. We should just notice that is
a term that now is offensive for anybody.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
And one we constantly use on Boy Meetroll. Repeated joke.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, so we're not judging Boy Meets World.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
We needn't know the things that we know now, but
just to point out not something you should say.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
And times have changed.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
So Alan laughs at this, encouraging Eric to tell Amy
his plans. Eric figures he's just going to stay at
his parents' house until the college housing snaffoo works itself out.
He pops up and asks Alan if they can pay
play basketball together tomorrow, and they gleefully high five as
Eric exits.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I love that. He's like whatever, I'm just so glad
to have him. My buddy's back. My buddy's back. It's
it's too bad that Amy is like no stick in
the mud now right now?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Will do you finally feel like a member of this family.
Now by season five, I do.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I feel like I've like Corey's gone at this point.
It's just me. No, I'm kidding, no, I yes.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
And it's also I just feel as an actor, I'm
now like the.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Restraints are off.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
That makes sense for Eric, and I'm taking more choices
with the kind of line reads, and I'm starting to
do different takes and I can feel that here, which
is one of the reasons I think personally. One of
the reasons why I like the episode is because I
felt like, like, again, all the shackles are off, yeah,
and I was just kind of letting go, which I
was very happy with.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, you're right, you do seem very free.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, and it's the start of then it gets crazy,
crazy crazy, But yeah, I felt it in this episode.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Was like, oh, okay, see that's interesting to me. They
didn't give you enough, so you're just like, there's this
line reads that I'm like, why is he saying it
like that? It's it's funny. It's very like Will being funny.
But I felt like they kind of were leaving you
hang and just letting you do the work for them,
which I was like, oh, you know, whereas in previous season,

(32:28):
like Eric, the situation was funny, you know, the way
you were coming into the scene was funny, And now
it's like just you're funny, which is different, like you
as an actor are funny. But yeah, I guess like
the specific Lime read college is hard. Yeah, when I'm
like a college is hard, Like all right, he starts, Yes,
you were just lamming it up and like whacking up

(32:50):
what otherwise wouldn't have been that funny of a line.
And they loved it, of course, but in a weird way.
It's like they're going to start being lazier because they
can rely on you to just make something funny. It
was fun though.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
So now we're back in Corey's room to Panga is
lying on the new bed while Corey is deep in thought.
She asks why he isn't kissing her, and Corey assures
her that the minute their lips touch, Eric will walk
in to Pega tries to cheer him up. This is
his room, and Eric knows it. He won't just walk
in and take over. I have no idea why Topanga
thinks this, considering where is Eric supposedly staying? Where is

(33:35):
Eric supposedly sleeping, but.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
He doesn't care. Yeah to Panga.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
She lays back and demands kiss.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Corey obliges, leaning in for a kiss, and then, just
as Corey predicted, Eric walks in. Corey asks, aren't you
supposed to knock before entering my room? Eric mocks him
in three different pitches, your room?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Will you do it? Well? This is what I like?
Your your rude? Yeah, that's three like that is like
what You probably didn't write anything other than your room
three times and you probably get it every take differently different.
But it's a little senselessly funny, doesn't make any It
was just totally interesting. But I'm not sure what how
is Eric saying? Like what is the what is the

(34:19):
he's judging? Or like he's just being funny. It just
funny sounds, Yeah, exactly funny sounds.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
So he laughs it off and asks to Panga to
be a deer and scooch over so he can sit
on the bed too. He starts some bicep curls with
a very small weight.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
With eight with eight pound weights, like, what the hell?
Who am I impressing? You're impressing to Panka, which is
buff ass? Arms of yours? Any arms lifting an eight
pound weight.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Next, you can tell by the way your muscle is
not even remotely it's just so soft.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
You're made of chop. Clinton that seeing I.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Am like, what the hell are they doing?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
My gosh, And he says, big Daddy rocks, Big Daddy rocks,
Big Daddy rocks. To Panga watches him and bites her
lip like she is very much.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Enjoying this, and just away.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
It's so strange.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
She's just dts whoever's around. Eric, what you're filling up
to is Corey and Topang are gonna have an open marriage.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Also the fact that Topanga very in season one had
a crush on Eric and getting.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
So horn I gotta I can't get out of here.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
And again again, I am lifting eights And how do you.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Say no, no, how you turn around that kind of well,
just walk Away'm not going to strength.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
So Corey notices and Topanga decides it's time for her
to leave. Eric cheerfully says goodbye, and then asks, she
didn't leave because of me, did she? Corey yells, she
left because big Daddy rocks. Why are you doing this
to me? Why are you here? Eric answers, I don't know,
and that you're again line reading is funny, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
But I don't know. I don't like that's like, where
did they come from?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
What is the reality of what you're thinking?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
At this point? I wasn't think I am and funny
noises in my mad That's what I mean that it
felt weird to me. I was like, it's not Will's fault,
but I mean, if anything, it's that he's too good.
But like, really, there's no perspective on it. It's just no,
just a big weird carcame. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Jim Carrey jumps headfirst onto the bed. Corey threatens, I'm
not letting you do this to me this time, Eric, Tomorrow,
I am dedicating my entire day to finding you a place.
Eric kindly replies, good Night's sweet Corey. As he turns
off the light. We get a nice wide shot of
the bedroom and we see a large disco ball illuminating
the entire room.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Eric says, you know that's coming down, right.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Corey lies their arms crossed in a huffs.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Well, god, I wasn't lifting a twenty you would have
been pregnant.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I mean, seriously, uncle, daddy, daddy or.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Weird.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
All right, So we're in Chubby's fairy is complaining to
a curly haired Topanga about how tough it is to
find Eric a place to live.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
That is my naturally curly wavy hair.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
By the way, that's just what my hair looks like,
especially at that time, if you did absolutely nothing to it,
just braid it with some water and made it look
like that. It's also visibly shorter. I got a haircut
over the summer along with my tan. So for example,
Eric prefers an avocado fridge and an ocean view, which
sounds nice to Tapanga as well, until Corey reminds her

(37:41):
we live in Philadelphia. Tapanga tells him not to snap
at her because she's the girlfriend he wants another say kiss,
and so.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
She says it.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
They give each other a quick peck, and Corey apologizes,
and I guess they're just trying to develop this new
thing Victorian to do, which.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Is without giving you anything, really anything. It's just unmotivated banter.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
It's just unmotivated banter that also has a Cuteese element
to it that when Tapanga says kiss, everything stops and
they kiss and.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, I'm just gonna yes, just as so Corey just.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Doesn't understand Eric, it doesn't make sense that he choose
to live at home when he doesn't have to. Tapega says,
Corey just needs some college guy to walk down chubby
stairs and announce he's new. Intact, he needs roommates up up.
Corey tells Topanga that if she loved him, she would
make that happen. And then right on cue and only
a way Boy Meets World can pull off a cute guy.

(38:45):
Mister Matthew Lawrence himself comes walking down the stairs in
a hugetten up shirt.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Matt Lawrence, who is the most fit human being ever,
whose body is just perfect. Let's be honest and sure,
what is happening. I think they were afraid that he
was gonna be too hot compared to the rest of
us guys. It was gonna be like, we gotta make
him fit in with the boys of boy Beats Whirl.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
I remember when he showed up on set feeling like,
what the hell is he doing here with the rest
of these guys.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Sure that really was the way it felt that he blew.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
All of you out of the water. I love you
so much. He could lift twelves.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
So he comes trotting down the stairs. Excuse me, new
guy in town going to Penbrook. Just got a three
bedroom apartment and I'm looking for roommates. Corey stares at
the stranger in awe. Topega admits she heard him talking outside.
She says kiss to Corey, prompting another smooch, but he's
got no time. Corey drills the mystery man and finds
out his apartment has a view of the river. He
asks Tapanga to inquire about the fridge, because if this

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guy sees how happy he is, he might think he's insane.
To penga simple, he asks, fridge, seems like you're saying,
is there a fridge? But sure, no, whatever, and the
boy responds, big green one. I think they call it avocado.
Corey can't contain himself. Boy, do I have the perfect
roommate for you, baby? He grabs the guy's shoulder. He

(40:16):
removes Corey's hand and asks it's not you, is it.
Corey says no and pulls out his wallet to show
him a picture of Eric. Tapega thinks that's cute, but also,
I'm in there too, right. Corey glares at her nervously.
You will be a handsome college student looks at the picture.
Nice looking guy, easy on the eyes. Could be some
competition for the ladies, roommate. No, he's acting like it

(40:37):
could be a problem.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Why is Cory. Why is the photo of Eric important
to me?

Speaker 3 (40:43):
You know, why would you ever be like, let me
show you a photo of him?

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah? Yeah, what?

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:50):
No, doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Uh, could be some competition for the ladies, He ponders,
and then decides.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
He tells Corey he'll meet this brother of his. Corey
is static something good is finally happening to him. The
world is my friend.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I think, you know, we should just take a moment
to how uh exciting and interesting? Uh and interesting Jack
is as a character, Like, what is happening here? What
a missed opportunity? Like there's no sense of anything with
this guy. For the whole episode, I was like, what,

(41:25):
I know, you have Matt Lawrence coming in. It's a
big introduction a new character in the show. And he
is a guy, a guy, the guy. It's the worst
entrance we've ever had of a new character.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Though I know you're thinking of Alex.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Thinking of Alex, I mean, he's it's a better entrance
than Alex's. Maybe right, I just couldn't believe it was like,
because I mean really, like, what wouldn't the point be
that Jack is a slick and wealthy for instance, to
be a counterpoint to Sean, to be a to be
different than anybody else, But instead he just is a

(41:59):
dude ood.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, okay, have the money to have an apartment. He's
basically there as a prop to set up this scenario
they really want, which is to get some guys living together, right,
And he.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Has no agenda, no interesting perspective, no new anything, no
new anything, even in the scenes with Chet, like there's
nothing in the trailer.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Later there's there's something to this could have been Sean
had Chet not raised him.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Great, then let's see what that means as a character.
What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. He's just
a good, normal, average guy, cool, cool guy, seems pretty together,
seems cool with chat. Cool.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
But at the end of the day, Sean is a good,
average normal guy with a chip on his shoulder. So
it's you've got You've got Jack, who's the same minus
the chip.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Seant a normal average guy Sean, he's the goofy, sneaky
uh street Wise. You know, Sewan has character, he's from
the get go. He also known for this long. I mean,
there's just a complete lack of character to Jack, and
I think that's a problem for the rest of the series.
Oh see, I think that. Yeah, I mean again, I

(43:06):
want to see it.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Obviously haven't seen it in a while, but I remember
because I worked with Matt more than anybody, and so
he became the straight man to Eric, right, and so
as that I want to see what that combination looks
like if they give Jack more there.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, because I know, to me, I wasn't too bothered
by the fact that there isn't too.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Much to me so much going on in this episode.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I was like, Okay, we're going to get to know
this new guy and I just get him there that
you do not remember a single element of the Jack
character from this point moving forward.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
So for all I know, there is.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
And maybe there isn't.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
So for all I know, right now, episode two we
really learn who Jack Rachel.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
That's the whole Rachel Jack thing that's big that comes
up at all situational. He doesn't come in with any perspective.
What about when what about when Chet dies? Is there
do you learn anything more about, like is there something there,
there's something between him and Seawan, you know, like we
have it out about like I'm basically saying you didn't
know him. You weren't there when I was cleaning up
after him and taking care of it. You know, it's

(44:06):
all sewn Sean. Sean Jack himself is so neutral, He's
so vanilla and like it's just this is an opportunity
to have somebody walk in, like just even just his clothing, right,
Like even if he was just wearing a suit, that's extreme.
But imagine if he was wearing like a really nice
suit and you watch this guy and he was like
business oriented, want to be entrepreneur, college student only cares

(44:29):
about money. Boom perspective, a new character alert, We're going
to get into it, and it would be like fireworks immediately,
and instead it's just like he kind of kind of
looks like it fits in, kind of kind of looks
like Sean and he and and Sean's and as a result,
Sean's chip on his shoulder throughout the rest throughout the
rest of this episode feels unearned, Like you're just kind

(44:52):
of like, Sean, dude, chill out, bro I imagine if
Jack said one or two things in this first scene
that you'd be like, Oh, I don't know how I
feel about this guy, be on Sean's side, and then
when he comes back around and says, I'm going to
accept this guy, there's an art, there's an arc there,
there's a journey. Instead, it's like guy, okay, guy.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Guy guy comes yeah, and again still not our worst entrance.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
But then Sean walks in and sees the new guy.
What are you doing here?

Speaker 1 (45:19):
He begs Sean not to ruin this for him, let
go of whatever has him upset with this guy, because
the world knows this is going to be Eric's new
roommate and the world is his friend. Tapega asks how
they know each other, and Sean gruffly answers, he's my brother.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Cory throws his hands in the air. Of course he is.
He is not your brother, which I thought, what that line?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Of course, No, he's not your brother, Sean bluntly states,
the same dad, different moms. His mom bailed on my
dad years ago, found a guy with a few bucks,
and I guess they've kept Jack pretty busy because we
haven't heard from him. Jack says, that's not exactly the
way it happened, but Seawan doesn't want to hear his excuses.
You turned your back on your father and on me.
There we talked, Sean walks away without another word, leaving

(46:00):
everyone behind stunned.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I'm sorry, can we can mean right now? So it's
Sean m h stay, Eddie Stacy, Eddie Stacy. Is it
just is just the four of you? Then this is
this is the Hunter family? Now we do okay, I'm
just making sure it's just the four of you. And
it turns out that I'm not Verna's son, right, So

(46:23):
I guess Chet is the the father to us?

Speaker 1 (46:27):
All yes, And then we're outside the Matthews house near
the garage, which we've discovered now is just past the
fourth wall.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
In the eye line the establishes where it is, which
rearranges the entire map.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
It also makes absolutely no sense because every time people
arrive having been in the garage, they come from the back,
they come from upstage.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Not every time, not every time. Rue McClanahan ran off
to get her fan that way. So I think there
is a road off the garage too obvious. That has
to be right. The car has to be able to
get to the garage. So we've played rhades that direction
before too, so there's both sides.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
So Eric and Alan are playing basketball, nice shot form
by Will while Amy watches with concern. Feoene walks out
and admires the father's son bonding time. He realizes Amy
isn't sharing the feeling and asks if she's angry. Amy
snaps at him for years now, I have watched you
give advice to everybody, but never me.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Why is that?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Phoene's taken aback you don't ask. Amy explains the situation
she's in, with Eric being home and Alan being perfectly
fine with it. It was hard enough for Amy to
say goodbye to Eric the first time. She doesn't want
to do it again. Phoene begins to give her advice,
but Amy cuts him off and tells him he's wrong.
She knows the real answer. Alan is Eric's father and
his best friend. They're best friend, so he can't bring
himself to kick him out of the nest. She swiftly

(47:51):
thanks Feoene, adding well said as she walks off. After
she's gone, Feeney yells out, I have problems too, you know,
and I didn't really I love that line from him.
I don't really understand the Amy. What's happening with Amy?
Here is she is she saying thanks for the advice earnestly,

(48:11):
even though she just answered her own advice joke.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
But it's just not okay.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Broke the rule that Michael always talks about. And this
is a perfect example walking walking on playing angry. And
when she played it angry like that, then the joke
doesn't land. If that, like, if she just worked it
out herself and then it was not to critique Betty
critique forgot.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, if that was when you play she has been like,
thank you so much for the advice. It's like a
super positive yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
And we're back at the Hunter's trailer.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
I didn't know if if we were ever going to
see it again, I didn't remember it.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
So here we are.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Chet and Sean are sitting at the dining table as
Seawan is doing homework.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
It's nice to see Chet. It's just nice to see
Blake again. It really is.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
He thinks in this episode it's such a great character,
and you know it's not I mean, oh, it's comforting
nice to see him.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
It is. It's comforting, and.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
He's fixing a toaster. Chet asks about his son's day
and Sean says it was just another day. Chet asks
if anything special happened, and Sean repeats, just another day.
Chett admits I like this talking. We're doing it's good.
Then there's a knock at the door.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
It's Jack.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Sean gives him a death stare and Chet thinks he's
a stranger at first, but then when he takes a
closer look, he realizes it's his estranged son. Chedd admits
this is a surprise, but he looks happy. Jack explains
that he ran into Sean today, which makes Chet whip
his head back at Sean. You told me nothing special
happened today. Sean stands his ground. Yep, I did.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Oh yeah. Draw boom, my friend.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Chet asks Sean. Chet asks Sean not to be this way.
They have a little family reunion cooking here. Jack reveals
that he graduated high school and he's now going to Penbrook.
Chet is ecstatic he has a boy in college. I
guess your new daddy raised you up good. Sean adds, yeah,
so good that he hasn't visited us this whole time.
Sean asks his brother what he's doing here. Chet offers

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Jack a spot in the trailer, but Jack has an apartment.
He just needs some roommates. Sean isn't buying this whole
buddy buddy talk. He asks his brother again, what are
you doing here? Did you finally get up enough guilt
about Dad to pay him a pity call? Jack gets defensive,
That's not it. He wanted to come here. He came
here to see Sean too. Sean doesn't believe a word
he says. Chet awkwardly joins the conversation.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Seeing you two brothers together like that, an idea comes
over me. They've been given the opportunity to get.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
To know John. That is the most ridiculous line I
never ever heard Chet say you.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
I don't get a whole lot of ideas.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
He's the idea man. That's of his characters, that he's NonStop.
I could not believe the way that Chet's character under
the bus and that one line.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
I was like, wait what It also isn't for anything,
It's not even a joke.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
It's to set up the next line. I've got an idea.
But it's like he should you can literally say the opposite.
I'm an idea man, and I got I got to
do whatever, Like I could not believe we let that
line stand. It's the most It's like, oh right, we
just week to week, whoever you need to be for

(51:32):
the scene, let's just throw it in there. Oh yeah,
you know what?

Speaker 4 (51:35):
You know what a great acting moment was at the scene,
And there were a lot because you're right, Blake was
amazing in this. But when Matt first walks into the
trailer and he walks over and he's like, can I
help you?

Speaker 2 (51:45):
And there's that moment of recognition, it is a great
beat by Blake. It is like he just oh my god,
it's my kid. It was like a super understated and
real in this episode, and it's so good. It's really
cool to see you. No, I agree.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Did it bump any of you that he didn't go
to hug him?

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Yes, that they don't like that, you know what they say, like,
hi did you because they don't know each other?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
And I would have I would I would have made
a meal out of that. Then try you go for
hug and I'm.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Shakings and not hug him back or something. You can
get the get the sense that there's awkwardness there. But
as a parent, if you no matter what's gone on.
If you haven't seen your kid in a while, and
you realize it's him, how to and and Chet being
an emotional guy for him to not grab him immediately

(52:34):
and maybe then realize, oh, maybe this is too much
and to have let him go or something.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
I want to go for a handshake and then do
like the double handshake and then not know what to do,
and the two of them have like just a beat.
Would have been great, make a meal out of that.
I did.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
I think you're one hundred percent right. I didn't miss it,
but now that you're saying it, it would have been great.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I think it's one of those things that is, you
know when you're when you've got twenty two minutes and
you and you're hugs or they take long. And I agree,
we writer it. If you're going to do it, make
a meal of it. And they may not have just
had the time to with everything else going on, introducing
a new character, all the stuff with Eric and all that,
but I feel like it should have. I feel like
it should have took us solid forty seconds of the

(53:12):
show and would have gone a long way. So Chet
tells Sean he wants a roommate well, I want you
to live with him. And then we go to a
tense commercial break and we're back in the hunter's trailer.
Jack loves the idea of Sean as his roommate, but
Sean isn't having it. Jack assures him, if you're worried
about the rent, I can make up the difference. Sean
perks up there it is Jack is here to try

(53:34):
and rescue me from trailer life.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Jack is where I'm like, give him a character, give
him that sense of privilege, or just find a way
to make you know. But I feel like they were
too worried about Jack being unlikable. Yes, but I think
he needed to be somewhat unlikeable or just have a
perspective so that these because right now I hate Sean,
I'm like, I now, get over yourself, Like, now, you know,

(53:57):
just chill out, man, like stand it. But it would
be so much more sympathetic if Jack had some difference.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Right, No, you're right, You're right, because Sean is unlikable
in this And I do think the reason is that
there is a lot of protection of Jack. And the reason,
truthfully there's a lot of protection of Jack is because
they're protecting Matthew Lawrence as an actor from being an
unlikable character. And whether or not that's that was our
executives making that decision, whether that was ABC wanting to

(54:28):
give that protection, whether himself and me and his reputation,
his agents and managers, whoever it was, there was a
protection of Jack Matt exactly.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
I'm coming into a new show. I'm not going to be.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
An a But that is such backwards, Like that's the
worst you know, the worst note you can give a
writer is to make a character likable, because it just
ends up being bland and generic. And you know, the
point of writing, the point of story is to draw
you into care is that you might not know at first.
And I just feel like it's such a missed opportunity. Yeah,

(55:06):
and it hurts. It hurts Matt ultimately because you know,
it gives him less to do, It gives him less
perspective to play, and it's.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Also less room to see him change.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
It's nice, it's nice to see Sean have an influence
on Jack and him for him to we have.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
No relationship for the rest of the series, like there's
no well, no, they give him they there is no
there memory serves and it doesn't very well for what's
moving forward.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
But there was no reason whatsoever for the two of
you to be brothers, right, She could have just been
another guy like it was. There was no It didn't
go anywhere because then they paired him up with Eric,
so it was Eric Jack.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
It had nothing to do.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
It have just been Eric's new roommate.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Yeah. The way to Yeah, the way to pair. Whenever
you pair characters, you have to have tension and conflict,
and I think by removing any character from Jack in
order to make him likable, they also remove any potential
for us to have chemistry as characters.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Whereas the other way to go with it is a
comedy duo, which is what they decided to do, or
him and I and that you can do that.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
But again, they should have just done that from the beginning.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
And the reason that he's Sean's brother is just another hunter.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
It's like what. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
So Jack is frustrated and assures him that's not why
he's here. He says goodbye to Chet, it's good to
see him. He promises to call Jack, tells Sean he
thought this would be good for both of them, and
then he walks away without looking back. Chet stops him
and grabs a jacket. It's going to be cold tonight.
Jack thanks him and leaves, and Blake Clark is such
a killer. I love that moment where you can see
he doesn't know why he stopped him, he doesn't know

(56:33):
what to say, and he comes up with a.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
JACKU something wonderful, performance great, It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Now alone, Sean asks his dad what he's trying to do.
Chet explains, ever since you were born, I always wanted
to give you something I never could until now, a
chance at a better life. Sewn insists he means nothing
to me. Chet reminds him that Jack is his brother.
He's a good boy. He may not be much of
a father, but he'd like the two of them to
live together. Maybe that Penbrooks stuff WI rub off on
him and then he'd have two boys in college. Shawn

(56:59):
and Chet kind of argue back and forth, and Chet
tells him to get out of the trailer and go
live with his brother. Sean says he's not going anywhere,
but he is right about one thing. He isn't much
of a father and.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Owikes, yikes. Well, Chet also just to give away his
jacket that was Seawan's you talk about what if he
just handed off Sewan's leather jacket. That's what I thought.
That was good. I thought they were gonna end with
a joke. It was.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
And by the way, you just gave him my jacket,
you know, like that something like that.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
So then we are in Jack's apartment.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
News first we see we see the outside.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
We get to see the exterior of the new apartment
for the first time ever. Very very friends esque that
apartment building, like they're definitely going for that vibe.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
And there you go, boom apartment.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Cory and Eric walk out of an elevator and into
a very luxurious hallway. It's fancy in like a nineties
kind of way, and the same way Taco Bells had
the decor to encourage people to come inside the restaurant.
Corey coaches Eric on how to act around his soon
to be roommate. Don't flash that phony cheesy grin he has.

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Eric responds by flashing the cheesy grin he has. And
then we see a girl exit the upstage apartment of
the hallway and she walks to the elevator and then
as Cory and Eric enter Jack's apartment, Eric glances over
his shoulder at her, and not only is she not there,
like we don't see her at the elevator the way

(58:25):
we should.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
It never comes back into play.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I thought the same thing. Why I did Eric exactly
what they were thinking. They were thinking, we need to
establish a three's company swinging guys vibe about this hotel,
I mean the hotel hotelartment building. Yeah, and we're going
to this is a girl neighbors. Yeah, hot girl neighbor.
We need to establish that this is going to be
the new world of this side of boy meets World,

(58:51):
which is going to have like girls next door neighbors people.
And it's just a sort of like sad attempt to
estate ablish that. But yeah, they that's the same.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Apartment that that Rachel comes from. So when Rachel moves
out of her, the guys they.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Were already thinking ahead, well, we need this is going
to be the whole season is going to take place
in this world. We have to establish that world. They
should have had probably two girls laughing and he a
lie about it, like, oh maybe there's something to this building.
Exactly they walked down and say hi, Hi, Hey. If
they did that, then it would have then it would
have preempted the next scene, which are this scene that

(59:29):
we're entering, which is that Eric is going to say
he doesn't want to So it was like they wanted
to have their cake and eat it too, and it
just ends up kind of falling flat. Actually, he never
says he doesn't want to live there. He just says
I don't like him.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yeah, so when you walk out, right, you leave at
the end of the scene without establishing that you're going
to stay there.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
So yeah, So Corey opens the door to reveal Jack,
who's cleaning the apartment. Cory is over the topic sited,
pointing out that there's no avocado fridge, but it's still
a nice place. Why isn't there an avocado fridge?

Speaker 2 (59:59):
That's all I thought about for the rest episode. How
Why would what a strange thing to mistake a white
fridge for a green fridge. So you've obviously been in
the apartment and somebody asked you be one of the
funniest things in the episode because he's just ramped sounded
off cattle fridge. But that's okay. I thought it was
so good, like I don't care, I don't care. It

(01:00:20):
was worth it just to have Ben deliver it the
way he did. I thought it was genius. Such a
weird thing to get a mistake, I know, but it's
so unfunny, so funny. I don't care. I don't care,
I don't care so funny. I just love like motormouth.
Corey is so funny. And real estate. He's always talking
about curtains and real estate.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
And oh the fact that he we signed them, actually
signed the paperwork with him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
He should never have stopped talking about the apartment for
this entire scene. I just think if he's just NonStop
and the two of them are looking at each other, funny,
so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
So Jack and Eric introduce themselves and they check on
each other's smoking habits and thoughts on pets. Jack gets
serious favorite color on three, they count in unison blue.
Corey sighs and relief, but as Jack heads upstairs, Eric
immediately tells Corey I don't like him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Wow, best read got so so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
I also just remember the whole time doing the smoke
you smoke, No, do you smoke, and in my head.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Being like, yeah, heavily for many many.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Years, constantly I'm smoking right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
So they had a deal not to mention this is
the perfect roommate for him. They're so similar they should
be married. Eric earnestly says, I'm not ready, which is
my favorite light of the episode.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
No, this is the This is the first scene of
the episode.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
This is This is the first scene where I was like,
this is a sick this is great. There are characters
in conflict, there's a situation that should be happening. That's
there's tension, it's and Will is so funny. Ben's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Why isn't this the thing he had signed up for
his dark This is the start of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Here we are, this my new roommate, meeting my new roommate.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Yes, there is where I finally was like, oh, maybe
this isn't just a god awful episode. Yeah, and then
I thought it was great from here on out. I'm
on board, totally on board.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
This was the first This should have been the first scene.
This was so Corey will not let Eric ruin his
entire year. His brother no longer exists in his eyes,
and then he tries tries to storm off, but he
has to ask his invisible brother to move.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Funny just the invisible to me me so good, so good,
great performances. Oh killed me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Then we're back in the Matthew's kitchen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Eric runs down the stairs throwing a basketball at Alan,
asking if he's down for some one on one. Alan's
excited to play another game and follows Eric out the door,
but Amy yells toward her husband and tells him to stay.
Alan says that's a dog command. She doesn't give him
a dog command, and Amy responds with sit. Alan obliges,
but tells Amy she has to give him a treat.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Wink wink, and here is But I think this is
where Rusty's genius as an actor comes through, because there's
a version. Just if you take the dialogue, it's there's
just you know, it's playing on the like wife telling
you what to do? You know, uh, sitcom trope. That

(01:03:09):
would be so bad, but Rusty delivers it with the
sense of irony and understanding that where he's laughing while
he's doing it. He's able to do the like the
wink thing. But it's all it's just dripping with just
enough like spin on it, dripping with enough spin good, great, Yeah,

(01:03:30):
there's just enough spin on it. As an actor that
he does the dialogue. He does the thing but allows
us in and it's like okay, Like he like the
character of Alan is A is self aware, and I
just think that's so good. It's the only way to
make this kind of dialogue work, and I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I don't want to take away anything from Rusty because
I think it is I agree, his performance is always
spot on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
It's still really gross to me. I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
I didn't like any bit of it all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I didn't like her saying it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
I didn't like him being like no, no, no, lady
dog command puh and and then the but you owe
me a treat later with a wink and it being
a sexual thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Like I just.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
I was just looking at it from the like if
you have to say this, cras, that's what again? That's
because yeah, because I think a lesser actor would have
just gone for the joke completely, like oh right, but
Joey treat later, you know, like that's the like sitcom
dad that you see on every other show at this time,
and he's not doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
For a Matthew Nelson's script. This doesn't feel like a
Matthew Nelson script.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Yeah, first script of the season introducing a new character.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
My guess is this is was shredded.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
From one heavily heavily rewritten.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Amy gets serious. If we let him stay here, he
will never grow up. Alan knows this, but he doesn't
know what he's supposed to do about it. And then
Corey and Sean walk downstairs, and Sean's complaining about his
father trying to throw him out of the house. Sean
looks at Alan, why can't I have a dad like him?
Eric's never gonna leave and he's fine with it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Brilliant. Yeah, that that's brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
This is where the storyline start converging in really smart ways.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
And right after I say it doesn't feel like a
Matthew Nelson.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Script, it feels like a Mathew that was from the
original draft. The way these two storylines connect and land
in this moment and everybody and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
The rest of this episode, it falls together for me,
and I was like, oh, this is clicking. Yes, is
feeling like the good boy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
You're right, I think you're starting to convince me. So
then we're back out in front of the Matthew's garage.
Eric is playing basketball when Corey and Sean walk up.
Eric asks if they'd like to play a little two

(01:05:51):
on two with him and Dad and Corey Fire's back.
I want to play a little two on your not here.
Eric doesn't get it. You're head is a sandwich head.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
That Sean said that speaking of head off your head
was a sandwich head. You're the sandwich head. Figure outwich head.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Alan, Alan walks out and greets greets the boys. Okay,
Eric is ready to play how about the little guys
versus him and Dad? But instead Alan asks, as much
as I love it when it's you and me, how
long is this going to go on? Eric doesn't understand.
He thinks Alan is talking about the game. Sean thinks
maybe he should go and leave them alone to talk
this out, but Alan says he should stay.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
He's family.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
I like that part yep completely made me tear up.
The emotional the most emotional I have ever gotten watching
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Because because of him saying your family, or because of
everything that follows us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
He says it's your family. Because it was so confident
and not melodermat It was just and it was like
a it was just like an arrow to my heart.
Now to see how Sean has been welcomed by the
Matthews and like, it's not a story point, it's just

(01:07:16):
it's just the given, and and and it was it's
not underlined, it's not and I was like, I felt it.
I guess maybe it's just like a residual Sean in
me where I was like, I probably didn't even notice
it as an actor then, but now I'm watching it, going,
that's the arc of this character. And there it is.
And it's not a story point. It's not anything you

(01:07:36):
need to make a big deal out of. It's just
that Rusty as an actor, knows that Sean's family and
Sean is family. And it just destroyed me. It destroyed
me last night watching I was like, what what just happened?
It was so beautiful and like, oh my god, Like, yeah,
I wish I would more of this, you know, this
sort of like emotion where it's like, oh, that's just

(01:07:57):
a given, it's we don't have to hit it. It's
just oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I also love that in the scene right before, you're
the person who shows him, yeah, I'm not doing the
right thing, and that it obviously landed for him that
what people say about.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Him is why can't I have a dad like him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
And him saying that your family is a little nod
to you do have a dad like me?

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Yeah right. Unfortunately though none of that is accurate.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
What what the line actually means is you find out
that Alan is also So that's really what it means
by your family everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
To be friends all this time, because that has to
make up for the fact that he cheated on They're
just Sean's related to everybody in town? Is actually what
this means. It kind of changes the moment, doesn't it. Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Alan tells Eric he has one week to find himself
a new place. Eric doesn't understand. He thought they were friends.
Alan agrees they are friends, but he's also Eric's father.
There comes a time in every kid's life where they
have to move on. He hates that that time has come,
but he wouldn't be a good father if he didn't
recognize it. Eric's size, and Alan tries to cheer him up.
If I didn't think you could make it, I wouldn't

(01:09:15):
be kicking you out. Sean hears this and obviously connects
it to his own situation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
This is good writing, really good, But in two scenes,
I my storyline affected him. He recognized that made a change,
acknowledging it's like, boom boom boom characters. Oh so good,
that's Matt Nelson.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Matt Nelson, Matt Yeah, you feel the Matt Nelson here,
back to back.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Yes. So it's also there's about this episode and then
at the end, Chet and Now and get their moment.
I was like, oh my god, it's so good.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
So that's also one of the things that even works
on a deeper, deeper level because it's one of those
things where Sean can't recognize his father being a good
father because I'm so not used to it. Until he
knows a good father, he he's Alan as a good
father and has him say the same things.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
It's it's also the idea that and I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
I've completely changed my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
I really am blocking of story that I've ever seen.
It's great and it's so economical. It's just perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
I also love that that Sean's po V is so
tainted by always feeling excluded from his family, his family
pushing him away.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
It's not until he sees the Matthews.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
That he knows pushed well, yeah, that he goes, oh,
there are there's a different way to retell a pushing
away and in this situation in my life, it is
not abandonment.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
It is time to spread your wings.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
This, yeah, and is the acknowledgment that what Shawn's been
telling us all along.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
I can be on my own.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
I'm a big guy. I can handle myself. Why does
everybody want to keep it? I don't need you, want
don't need you somebody actually saying, yeah, you're right, you
are You've reached there now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
You may not have been there until now, but now
is the time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
So yeah, it's great, it's great, It's beautiful, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Yeah. You know, if Sean at the end of the
episode of Sean going to say goodbye to Turn, I know,
but he's still in a koma. He hasn't moved yet.
He's still in the hospital.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
The world is Cory's friend, not Sean's friend. So Eric
throws the basketball to Corey. Enjoy your room. Eric walks away,
and Corey smiles before following him. It's just Sean and
Allan now, and Shawn assures him you are a good father.
Alan's worried. He hopes Eric will understand. Sean tells him
he will. Alan pat Sean on the tummy and gives

(01:11:42):
him a little embrace.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Great beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Yet then we're back in Jack's apartment. Sean and Chet
walk out of the elevator, both carrying boxes. Chet admits,
I still can't believe you give Alan Matthews half the credit,
except for all the flowery words I said the same.
Sean explains that Alan just helped him understand his dad's perspective.
Now he knows how hard this is for Chet. He
tells Chet that he's a good father. Chet chuckles, I

(01:12:10):
guess I give the man his due. Then inside the apartment, Alan,
Eric and Jack are all unloading stuff into the kitchen.
Eric asks Jack his favorite movie on three one two
three Godfather. Then a second passes part two two so cute.
Eric turns to his dad. I don't get him a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Great runner, such a great runner.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Cory walks out of a bedroom carrying a clipboard standard
rental agreement for one year.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Love's a great clipboard. He's the real estate agent. It's
just now in this.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Episode, right, You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
He shows Eric ware to sign the Hunter's enter, and
Jack welcomes Sean into their new home, comes with hardwood floors,
high ceilings, and a brother, Chet got them a gift.
It's not much, but it works. He hands Jack the
toaster he's been working on for most of the episode.
Jack is ecstatic they really need one. Alan tells Eric

(01:13:07):
he's not going to say. Eric finishes his sentence goodbye.
Alan nods it's very hard for him to say, so
he's not going to do it. He pulls Eric in
for a big hug and walks out. Chet follows shortly behind.
The two dads are now in the hallway waiting for
the elevator. Alan asks Chet how he's holding up, and
Chet says he did his crying in the truck. Alan
admits his father thing It's just not an easy job,

(01:13:29):
is it. Chet admits no, but I'm learning. Inside the apartment,
Eric admires the area and tells Corey, well, I did it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
I got my own place. Corey smiles and says me too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Eric apologizes to Corey it just seemed easier to stay
with their parents. Corey explains, I wasn't trying to kick
you out of my life. I was just trying to
kick you out of my room. Eric sarcastically thanks him
before sending him on his way. As Corey makes his
way to the front door. Eric adds the landlord made
a mistake. He gave me two sets of keys. Eric
throws the keys to Corey and tells him, don't be
a stranger, and we freeze frame and writer, you're exactly right.

(01:14:05):
They really wanted it to They really wanted the audience
to know. This is our new this is the new world.
We're gonna spend time here. Corey's got keys, Sean lives here,
Eric lives here. This new hot guy, Matt Lawrence lives here.
This is the spot to come to Panga.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
We don't need to know anything about her.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Well, fine, we got you were carried away by for
Greek job.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
I was busy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
I was busy the Romans. So we know what's history tests.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Yeah, we're good, Yeah right, or you're right. Those are
back to back scenes that are really good. And I
do think what also in my mind, aside from the
fact that I so hated the first maybe ten minutes
of the episode, it also you're right, and it wasn't
a super funny episode. So when I was done watching it,
I had a hard time shaking the disgust of the beginning,

(01:14:53):
and I wasn't left with any sort of real, like
super laugh out loud moments. So my overall feeling was, well,
I didn't like that episode, but now that we've talked
about it, I love the second half of it so much.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
For the heart of it all.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
The cold open puts such a negative taste in my mouth.
You're right that it took a scene or two to
shake off that ridiculous opening.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
That was the problem for me. Yeah, on the cold
open left a bad taste in your mouth. It was
dripping with the shape, so it didn't quite yeah, yeah,
it was actually dripping you exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
And then we're into the tag where in Phoenie's classroom,
everyone is at their desks when Ta Panga walks in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Phoenie's out sick, so they have a substitute. Oh yeah,
and then we get a button.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
It brought us right back to crap Land.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Yes, exactly, they have a substitute.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Corey's unfazed, but Sean reminds him that Phoene hand picks
his substitutes. They're always old, they're mean, and they make
a Miss Phoenie. Then a familiar beautiful woman walks in
and greets the class. She's Miss Valentine. Sean's jaw is
on the floor. She walks past. He whispers to Corey
it's her. Corey remembers she was in our fantasy. Panga

(01:16:06):
turns around and asks what fantasy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Shared the fantasys fantasy the end of the fantasy we
both like separate and act like he didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Had different fantasies that were normal. Huh so, Kurt, Corey
nervously smiles and says, no fantasy. Miss Valentine begins to
hand out the graded tests from last Friday, and she
just happens to know exactly who Sean and Corey are.
She walks right up to them with their tests. Corey
got a B, good work. Sean looks at his grade
in size a D. All right, let me take care

(01:16:38):
of this. After all, we do have some history.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Corey smirks, we've made out oral fantasy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Oh snap, Corey smirks, she was in our fantasy. Topanga
turns around and gives him a look, and he responds,
say kiss. She obliges, saying kiss, and the two give
each other a peck. Sean walks out of you completely
off camera, and then we hear a slap.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
He walks back.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Not good sound design, No I was like, what just happened?
You need it should have been a yep, like a
really and then hearing you the top, I mean yeah sorry, yeah,
just said I'm sorry sorry yeah yeah. But it's also like,
what did Sean try to? Did you try it? Does
Sean try to kiss her? That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
He walks up and tries to make out with her.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
The new teacher who's just there for thirty Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
He walks back to his desk, immediately holding his face
in pain. He tells Corey apparently it wasn't her.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
Great line read by the way, Yeah, crap everything great
line read really funny.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
So that's our drop shock of season season five.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Here, let's see how it goes, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Our next episode recap will be season five episode two,
Boy meets Real World.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
It is Trina's first episode.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Awesome already in season five.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
Great, okay, good blood on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
I like it, I know the show. Yes, black woman
on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
So thanks, thank you all for listening to this episode
of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us
on Instagram pod meets World Show. You can send us
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Pod Meets Worldshow dot com. We love you all, pod dismissed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
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