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August 15, 2024 69 mins

They say that if a black cat crosses your path, it’s bad luck. But if you’re on a TGIF show and the black cat is Salem from Sabrina the Teenage Witch… you get sent back in time! 

It’s another time travel episode as the gang transports back to the ‘40s to experience WWII, through a bizarre TGIF special event - and possibly the clunkiest theme song transition in BMW history.

We crack the 4th wall for the most “meta” moment of the show so far, and Will’s special connection to the script forced him to put his foot down for the first time ever.

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Where you be at Wrider.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm in Humboldts, the older redwoods along the Eel River.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Went the Eel River yesterday was so warm. I've never
been in a river so warm. Did you catch an eel? No?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh, I just called the eel River. It's not like
it's going to be a reason it's called the eel River.
I mean somebody was killed by an eel or something.
There might have been an eel at one time, you know,
but that's like you know, Bear Valley, big Bear mountains,
not like there's still one big bear.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
On Boy's World. Lonnie tried to convince somebody to go
catch eel in a river. You don't have to scoff
at me for never made an eel, though, I mean,
have you ever seen an eel and a river?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Really?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
And there's a il and I've seen it on my
plate at sushi me too, I've seen I'm not sure
i've but i've seen noy.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
No, I have never been near a river. We're near
a river.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
A river?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
What well?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I've been whitewater rafting a bunch and then I took
Indy last year. And no, I've never seen an eel.
But we're not we're not rafting. We're just we just
have a cabin. We're on our way to Seattle, where
I depart for the first cruise I've ever been on
since my gosh, this is amazing fiftieth wedding anniversary and
they love cruises, So is it? Is it an eel cruise?

(01:42):
Eel themed cruise? Just go down the eel river nice,
up and down?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Wait, writer, I really do have a request. Could you
create an audio diary while like just into your phone? Okay,
just I want you to, like I want there to
be the anxiety and a diary of how this is going.
Like day one, we are in our room, I have
sweat all the liquid in my body out. I just

(02:09):
I want to dysentery. Still listening to Counting Cross.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Still.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Want that. I think it's going to actually be great.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I think it's going to be thartic and it's going
to feel like I'm overcoming something without having to do anything,
because it's the point of a cruise and as long
as I can just relax. And the main thing is
I think India is going to love it, right, and
so like when when I'm gonna be able to sit
back and watch my kid having fun, and we're going
to Alaska, which I've been to and I love and

(02:36):
is wonderful and is not a tropical place with breaches,
which is not my style, doesn't feel as culturally as
insensitive as you know, some of the issues that I
felt in the other cruises I've been on. So yes,
the problem is I might not get to go on
the cruise because I lost my passport.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
What why you did not? So I'm dealing right now.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
And and now this seemed fine six weeks ago when
we were like doing all the travel document like collection
and being like oh, and I was.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Like, where is it.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I just got back from Banff, like when my wife
broke her back, Like what and no idea. So I'm like, okay,
don't panic, just report it lost, file for a new one.
Report it lost, file for a new one. Should be
here in two to three weeks. Yes, the government's great.
And then like two or three weeks go by and
then I get a letter of being like, where's your
old one? I'm like, why file I filed the They

(03:28):
never got my first filing with the lost one, so
I'm like, anyway, long story shorts still hasn't happened. So
now I have to have like one of those last
minute emergency passport maybe in Seattle where I'm going. No,
I have to go like to the passport an agency
so I can just hand them all the documents and
they can you know. But I have the worst experience
with passports, Like twice I've had I've had to report

(03:50):
a mutilated passport because yeah, that's what the technical term. Okay,
don't don't leave your passport in your pants pocket when
you or your leather jackets.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, when you wash it, of course not.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I was in Spain once in my passport, I can't
took it out of the wash and it like peeled apart.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I can do this. I can glue this back together
and no, wow, we are okay, well we're chalking it up.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
We got we don't want to give writers passports, so
when we travel internationally, either Danielle or with your information. Also,
we don't want to let you drive because we're going
to get pulled over. So there's there's two things we
know about. We just got to keep checking off the
travel guys.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I know is fun. You know I do have for
you though. There's a place locally called same day Passports.
And they really can turn it around for you very quickly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, I know that there's agencies, and I probably should
have just done that because you know, you can just
dump a bunch of money and they like cut through
the bureaucracy for you, because they just basically like.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Paid to be in the front of the line. And
I've done that way, you know.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I mean that's how big companies get their executives overseas
or actors.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Into a show.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I know, but I was just like, no, I
can do this all normally. I have all the stuff,
you know, I am a citizen. Shouldn't be that hard,
but yeah, no. And then of course I discovered my
parents don't actually have.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
My birth certificate. They have a copy. So now I
have I.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Do like file to get like an emergency copy of
my certific copy my birth certificate. So but you know,
in the worst case scenario, my family gets to go
on the cruise and I take myselfs in my camera van,
which also sounds.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I know either way, I'm kind of like win win.
You know, I'm gonna I'll do the work.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I'll do the work, and I make sure my wife
sees me doing the work, you know, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Was gonna say, how much is Alex going to kill
you if you don't get to go on the cruise?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
You know, part of the tension is she's the one
who holds our passports.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh so she's the one in there's a little debate.
There's a debate.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'm not gonna you know, but yeah, she's the one
who's in charge of the travel documents when we go,
because there's three of us, you know, keep she's the keeper.
So but you know, maybe air jacket in the future,
can you do that? Are you allowed to stick something
to a passport?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Can you sport? I wonder that's a pretty good idea. Yeah,
Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fisher, I'm rather strong,
and I'm Wilfordell. So today we are recapping season five,
episode six, No Guts, No Cory. It originally aired November seventh,
nineteen ninety seven. The synopsis A magical stray cat uses

(06:22):
a time worm to transport Corey and the gang back
to the nineteen forties, where Cory is shipped off to
fight in World War Two and must leave Topenga behind.
Sounds like a rumpus. It was directed by Alan Myerson.

(06:48):
It was written by Laura Runnels and Patty Carr. This
is their first Boy Meets World script. Welcome ladies. It
was cool to see their name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very cool.
We were just two of the two of the Greatest
uh So guest starring Nick Baquay as the voice of
Salem saber Hagen. I did not know Salem had a

(07:09):
last name. I did not either, Yes, Salem saber Hagen
the cat. Now, this is a very popular character slash
puppet from Sabrina the Teenage Witch, and Nick was actually
a writer on Sabrina who was recruited to be the
voice of its most serial character. It was a puppet.

(07:31):
Did you think it was real? They trained? You thought
they had trained the cat to speak like that? Yes, well,
when Debbie Dunning was done scuba training.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
They okay, the animatronics they got it was, Yeah, it
was I'm sure was.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Then next went to animatronics school and then trained the
real cat. She you know, puppet. I'm shocked. I'm sorry,
I'm sorry to sorry by saber Hagen bubble, I'm sorry.
So he was a writer on Sabrina who was recruited
to be the voice of its most surreal character and

(08:07):
now that'll probably end up being on his tombstone.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
So yep.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
He was also a writer on In Living Color, a
producer on the King of Queen's, a show he also
appeared on. He wrote Paul Blart too, and he has
a very long resume that includes the show Bookie that
he co created with Chuck Lorie that is now entering
its second season. Do you guys remember the cat being
on set?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yep? Okay, no, yeah, no, I remember seeing the puppet,
the situation and like all the wires going to it
or whatever they had to do. I mean, because I
you know, I've always been into that that stuff, So
I remember watching them do it and thinking how far we've.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
We've got fallen? Fallen or come? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I was, yes, No, it was I remember. I mean,
this week was just hard. I just remember being like,
what are we doing? What is hastened to our show?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
You know, but also that's you know, that was just
me being you know, I kind of feel that in everybody.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh yeah, we're all a little like but you.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Know, and I don't know how much of that has
to do with like quality and as I mean, I
think for me, maybe it did because I was always like,
what is I never had seen sabrinas, I was like.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
What is this talking cat?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
You know?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
But I it also just feels like our show has
been hijacked by something that's not our show. Yeah, yeah,
And so I wonder how much of it was just
us feeling like we wouldn't have our own thing. It
was like, oh, we can't do our normal thing, we
have to do this.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
So my guess is when he first come, when you
first see the cat, and he says like, oh damn
hippies or whatever, it was, family matters probably went back
to like the sixties or the seventies, yep. And so
he went to every show and it was that that
was guys.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
This was probably a git. This was probably like, ooh,
all these shows are going to get that special cat
from Sabrina. And although we felt like our show had
been hijacked, because it had, it was probably a cool night.
And for a kids and families watching the fact that
Salem was gonna be a ribbon through all four shows

(10:07):
was probably really fun.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
And I wonder how the other ones are, Like, I
would love to see them, I know, you know, because actually,
you know, like our fifties show in retrospect was like
great fun and sort of had this like absurdist like
humor to it and all these and like, clearly the
best parts of this are similar to that, you know,
It's like we're riffing on that. So I'm just curious,
like how the other ones turned out, Like maybe, you know,

(10:29):
maybe this family matters hippie episode was great. I don't know, like,
you know, because I don't mind that conceit if you're
just going to lean into like the absurdity of it.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
But this episode just didn't quite work for me. But yeah,
I just thought they were missing some laughs here. I
thought it really could have used. I mean, will I
loved this episode, worked everything about it.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
I loved I loved everything about it for completely different reasons.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I loved it.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
I let myself go it was we were This was
the first episode where I felt like, as a asked,
we realized how absurd it was and we were just
making each other laugh.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Writer.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
You and I broke one time, Matt Lawrence broke one time.
I'm just doing a bad Jim Carrey impression.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
So good though, you're really working, but I me, you're
the only one with jokes.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's one of those things though, where it was so
absurd and ridiculous, and I felt us as a cast
realizing it was absurd and ridiculous, so working to entertain
each other and because of that opposite me. Definitely, you
and Matt. Definitely you and Matt are having fun like
I mean it, literally.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Laughs and then looks at the camera.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
No, he has to look away because I can't know
that is like, you guys are clearly having fun like
you know. And and even Ben to a certain extent
once he's in Paris, I feel like I was like
he was kind of I could feel like.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Oh, this is these guys are but for I.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Don't know, like I could tell I was just uncomfortable.
Oh no, I can tell that too. But for the
first time Rusty felt uncomfortable to me, I was like,
what are they making? And Rusty and Betsy it just
didn't work.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I was like, no, guys, don't make me do this.
This is love it, I don't. I loved it.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
I thought Betsy was funny, I thought Rusty was absurd. Again,
it was it was the news radio episodes that they're like, hey,
we're going to do one this week where.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
We're on that I wish they had really cranked it up,
Like I wish they had cranked it up like tent
you know, cranked it to eleven, because like it just
it wasn't absurd enough or like melodramatic enough for me.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
It was like someone kind of committed Like.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
That was the problem is like like the Sean Cory
stuff is so serious, it's played straight and then like, yeah,
we should have made it like we should have all
been doing what you were doing right, like if I
went and grabbed the dog tags. It was like like
if it could have been like if we were mocking
a World War two movie, it would have been great,

(12:46):
but we played it as if we were really in
World War two and happened.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
It was like what I think what they were going
for is a boy meets World episode in World War two,
which is slightly melodramatic.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
All you know, Corey and Topanga fighting, you.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Know, it's it's they tried to do a boy me
throll that which again, once I let go, I was like, okay,
it's once Topang at the very beginning doesn't even mention
that there's a cat in the hallway, I'm like, all right, fine,
I'm in like she literally doesn't even go hey, cat
like nothing like a coal lines and more lines in
that direction would have gone a million miles. Like my
favorite line of the episode is when Fien He's just like, oh,

(13:24):
I guess I can do this because.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I principle like more of that, do you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Like just a slightly more like winking asides and I
would have been in especially from like me or Rusty.
It was like those of us who were playing it
straight just like missed the mark. And I guess that's
on us, you know, like I totally take responsibility.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
This was also the first episode and I think I
think I talked about this at a live show.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I don't think we talked about this on the pod.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
But this is the first episode where I walked into
Michael and said, I won't do it.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh, this is the one right you were supposed to
be in it, because I was supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
He he had me doing all this absurd stuff while
dressed in a military uniform with you guys in the
in the bunker, and I went to him and I
was like, dude from a military family, I can't, I
can't do this. And so they rewrote the entire thing
where he has flat feet and doesn't go.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Did we actually record that though, I mean read that
episode like, because I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I think we did. We think table read?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
No.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
I think after the table read, I was like, I
can't do and I think they rewrote the my entire
part because it was just this ridiculousness while dressed in uniform,
and I was like, I'm not doing this. I'm not
And in all fairness to Michael, he was like okay,
and they changed it, like instantly changed it.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
And it is so funny that you're on a secret
mission and all of it, all of this, all of
your stuff, you got all the laughs.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
And you are you are just doing a bad Jim
Carrey impression at the beginning. I mean like even the
headshakes and like, all right, man, we're gonna It's like,
oh my god.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Intentional do you think? No idea? How do you just
absorbed his perform.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
By that point I probably had just absorbed his But
as I'm watching and I'm just like, oh man, it's
just it's pretty.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Much like beat for beat. It's like, yeah, back to
the guest stars of Saving Private Corey. We have Yvonne
show as Versailles. An Italian model and actress Yvonne appeared
on two episodes of lefem Nikita. She was in the
two thousand and six Pink Panther movie, and in two
thousand and five she claimed she was physically attacked by
Naomi Campbell. Oh God. Yeah. And then we have Kevin

(15:17):
Brief as Maleman. He's one of those Hey, I know
that guy, that boy meets world so commonly hired. You've
seen him on wings Er, Will and Grace and The
Big Bang Theory. And then we have Brooke Mahilani Lee
as Dim a dance girl. She's nineteen ninety seven's Miss
Hawaii Usa. She was Miss USA and then she was

(15:39):
Miss Universe.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
She was super cool by the way we talked the
whole time about Miss Universe and everything.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
She could not have been nicer, so down to earth,
so cool. She was the first native Hawaiian to win
the title of Miss Universe, and she is now the
co host of the podcast It's a Hawaii Thing, and
she is the artistic director of the Hawaiian Music Hall
of Fame. Cool. So, what did you guys talk about
when you talked about Miss Universe?

Speaker 4 (16:05):
What was just you know, because it was all the
I mean, I don't remember much, but I just remember
we talked about kind of the pageant circuit, because that's
the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
It's just such a.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Different I'm always fascinated with these tiny little worlds cultures. Yeah,
I saw it with the next girlfriend, who was a
championship figure skater, and so you had that kind of
little world.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
And so the pageant world is a whole different thing.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
And it's so high stakes, you know, and yet there's
it seems like there's not much you can really do.
You just kind of have to like go and compete
by being Oh my god, it sounds so stressful, it does.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
But she I just remember her being so down to earth.
Could not have been nicer. We hung out the whole day.
We were laughing the whole time. She was really really sweet, cool.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
And then we have Maurice LaMarsh as narrator slash radio
announcer voice MO. That's my boy Mo.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
And also he's a huge voiceover actor and he is
one of Bluckman's best friends for years.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Oh nice. Well, he's one of the most famous voiceover
actors ever and arguably the greatest sound alike to ever Live.
He's most famously Brain from Pinky in the Brain, with
almost five hundred other credits, including thirty episodes of The Simpsons,
destro in g I, Joe Foot, Brute in Teenage Mutant,

(17:18):
Ninja Turtles, and Mister Big in Zootopia.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
He's also a Kiff and a bunch of other voices
in Futurama.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Wow, oh, lieutenant. Yeah, he's amazing. He's literally him. I
think we met him once. Yeah, and you had him
do the Brain from Pinky and the Brain voice once.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
One of the greatest guys you'll ever meet in your life.
He's a legendary voiceover actor. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
So, jumping into our recap, we start in John Adams
High Salem. The cat has made the TGIF trip over
to our set and is in our empty hallway. Why,
we don't know, but he frustratingly says, those darn hippies.
They talk about free love. Then they want me to
chip in for gas, like I've got a wallet. The
camera zooms in on his face as he opens his

(18:14):
mouth and says hipocrites. Now we're in Phoene's class, as
if that was normal, and mister Phoene is talking about
World War two specifically December seventh, nineteen forty one, deciding
as dr a day that will live in infamy. Then
the bell rings and Phoene thanks the students who brought
in family mementos from the war. Pearl Harbor was an

(18:36):
event that touched all of our lives. Filing out quoreasques
to Panga if he can see the picture she brought
of her grandparents from the war. He examines it and
says they look very much in love to Pega agrees.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
And now this began the tradition HM of talking about
photos or paintings that we don't.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Get, don't ever see right now.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Besides Will's wonderful headshot, it's so weird it happen here.
And I was like, okay, and I was I thought
maybe they would do like you bend like dressed up
as the old people. I was like, that would be
great or you know, and it does. And then later
the Cory photograph as a Ghost was and then the painting.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Of like we got to see these.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Things, guys, and they spend so much money on redoing
our sets, you think they could have had enough for,
you know, at our department to make mock up a photo.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I don't know. It's so weird to me.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
You think of a time that we would finish a
scene or do something and then they do inserts like
on like on a film. I can't think of a
time where they would come in and push in on
something in our hands or you know, I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Now we do time because it I mean, you never
don't do the insert.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
But back in the day, I don't recall them doing
like all right, let's get a close of his hands,
Like I don't see that ever, I don't remember that happened.
Does boy Meet's world ever? Has we done any insert
shots or does everything staying at all camera mode?

Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's so funny.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, I think even when back in the season one
when he pulls out like the melted Barbie, there wasn't
like a shot the melting Well, it.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Just goes to show because like Danielle saying, you do
that all the time now, even a multicam you get
at least you just they want the coverage and then
they have it.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
They do it if it helps the joke. So it's
it goes to show the progression of single cam into
the multicamp format because like back then it was kind
of just a rule. They just don't. Yeah, you just
didn't do it. Yeah, no, you didn't do it. And
and if you wanted it, because it was going to
help the joke, you strategically place it behind them, like
in the Uncle Sam joke. Later the Uncle Sam poster

(20:27):
is directly behind your head, so you can you They're like, well, yeah,
so interesting. I know. So now it's something for us
to pay attention to. Where and where and do you
ever get an insert? Okay. Tapanga agrees they are still
very much in love, and her grandfather asked her grandmother
to marry him. On December seventh, nineteen forty one. Corey perks, up, hey,

(20:50):
I know that date. Help me out here. Sean quickly
appears Pearl Harbor the day that we'll live in infamy.
Phenie was just talking about it. I know it happening.
Just give this joke to Sean, Like what you know,
I don't know this is or was it a possibility
that Corey was saying it to get Sean? Was it
a giving it?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I was just like they just go for the easy
dump joke and then the fact that my joke is
the one that we've done like the fifteenth Like.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh, I hate it over. Here's the other thing.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
And I never say this because I don't ever call
people out of the performances.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
But Ben was phoning it in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
This Yeah, this scene, this first scene, he's kind of
mumbling happy voice. He was unhappy with the I could
tell when he when it goes into the nineteen forties
for some reason, this this whole first scene in the hallway,
he is very unhappy. He did not want to do
like that cheek junk that he does, or that whatever
he does to to pay it like there's something going

(21:51):
on that he was, Yeah, you can.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Tell somebody with the dial of the wardrobe. But he
I thought he was.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
He came out of it by the time we go
to Paris, like then I was here like, oh he's
in it.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Even in the some of the soldier stuff, he's in it.
But this first scene he was really it was like, oh, yeah,
what's wrong with Ben?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I I thought while watching it. I remember both Ben
and I disliking when our dialogue is literally nothing more
than propelling into story, just expositional dialogue. And as you say,
the fact that I don't even mention the cat, and
then I'm like and back to that topic about my grandparents,

(22:27):
which like he picks.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Up and he's holding a cat and it's not like, hey, cat,
So I have a feeling we were like, is there
any other way we could do this?

Speaker 1 (22:36):
It may have just been that we were uncomfortable because
we felt like there was no real way to commit
to it, right, that's the way. Yeah, that's why. I think.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
That's what I remember feeling this whole week, and that's
what I read on all of our faces, which is
a bummer because you know, I don't know how much
of that is on us, or how much of that
is the writing I think is watching Will. It's like
if you we had just all leaned into the absurdity,
but maybe they wouldn't let us because clearly they wanted
emotional stakes between Corey and to Pang and Corey and Sean,
which is a little weird.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Like just yeah, I do remember a lot of notes
back in the day where we would get an episode
like this and we would lean into it, and then
we would be told we're doing it wrong. You're playing
it as a joke. It's not a joke, play it real.
Oh really, you know, like where we would be like,
but it's clearly a romp, but you don't play it

(23:23):
like a romp. And I was like, oh, okay, and
so you we had I do. I don't know. I'm
not trying to say that for sure we got that
note this week, but I do remember those notes where
if we tried to be rompy, we were told that
the funniest way to play it is to play it real.
So that may have been what was going on here,
and we were just uncomfortable. Quite possible, Corey smiles, you

(23:47):
listen to Feanne. Sean looks disgusted. Oh my god, I
listened to Feanie and he walks away. Corey asks when
Tepega's grandparents got married, and she reveals they were their age,
which is what sixteen at this point? Yeah, seventeen? Maybe
are we supposed to be seventeen.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
In the show?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Are you seniors now?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
So?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeh yeah, so clear could be close seventeen eighteen. Okay.
Corey looks down and sees Salem the black cat at
his feet. Rather than utter surprise you'd assume he'd have
when a cat shows up in his school hallway, he
just picks him up and asks if he's lost to
Benga completely ignores the cat, which sure makes sense, and

(24:27):
then continues on, my grandpa didn't know if he'd make
it home. But that's the way it was back then.
People never knew how their lives would turn out. Hell,
a black cat may even just show up on your sitcom.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Also in the future. Now, now, do people know how
their lives are going to turn out?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yes, I do. Like back then, people didn't know how
they're lives. They didn't turn out. You didn't have media.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Read Thank god we've got those tea leaves, because back
then they didn't know what they heard.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, that's so funny. A line that sounds like sense,
but exactly, Yeah, that's so funny. I didn't. It didn't
hit me either until you said it. And then it's
like a different than that. It's like three in the morning.
We get finished the stratch. Sure he'll do. Corey admits,

(25:20):
I don't know how I'd handle living back then. I
wonder what it was like during World War Two, and
then Salem the Cat enthusiastically declares, and away we go.
So again, this probably has already been set up by
the Family Matters episode before waiting for it. We're just
the audience who's watching is not as confused as we are.

(25:41):
Watching now. They're like, oh, here we go and and
it all makes sense. But watching it now, it's a
little like what is.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Then we get happening into a trippy camouflage.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Ye, it's a chimo hole.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I was I wonder if all the other ones did
this too, or keep because we're wars and the hippies
would have been like tight I swirls.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, but I was like, what is happening? It's a
very specific.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Okay, So this episode apparently aired after an episode of
Sabrina called In a Goddess Sabrina, an episode of Sabrina
the Teenage Witch that featured Salem transporting the cast back
to the nineteen sixties.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Okay, okay, so they must have done it. So instead
of family matters they started with Sabrina. Yeah, they must.
They must have initiate going through so she move her.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
What a shake up to the Actually, I can tell
you the four shows that Salem appears on that night, okay, Okay,
Sabrina the Teenage Witch, yeah, the World you Wish okay,
and teen Angel and all of them are put into
wrong decades. O.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
God, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Okay, all right, well, there's magic on every every single
show except boy Mes World in that lineup, aren't they
the rest of them magical?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Because the whole thing was that they you know, it
was like when Sabrina hit, it was like kids like
the magic. Yeah, so everybody had, you know, that was
like the Genie Show is in the next year. It
was like they kept trying to make something with a
magical element or twist work.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Wasn't the lead wasn't teen angel? Literally? Didn't that show
start with the cute kid who starred.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
In the show dying from a hut from eating like,
chokes on a hamburger and dies.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
That's how that show starts. I haven't either, but that's
like God, So then he comes back as an angel.
As an angel, right yeah, okay, so yeah, we're in
that weird camo hole. I described it as a green
and yellow tube. We find ourselves back and the John
Adams High Hallway, only now it's during the war, and
holy we've got ourselves a second time travel episode we're in.

(27:41):
We're in now. You can tell we've gone back in
time because Corey and Topanga and other passing students are
now wearing old timey clothing, and there is a big
poster behind them that.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Read I love it in the fifties episode, but I
think it's even better. I think it's like and I
mean it's great and everything the kitchen looks.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Looks so good. It really did. Yeah, I know, I
really loved it. I was and that is you know.
My one memory of this week was being like, I
was born in the wrong decade. I need to be
a nineteen forties gal.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
I didn't want to say this, but you do kind
of have like forties movie star vibes.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, it kind of worked. It works, I know, I
really I missed my I missed my calling. Yeah, all right, agreed. Okay,
So we have a big poster behind us that reads,
by war bonds, we apparently had enough blood.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Well blood driver, which is ironic because I know during
the war.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, exactly. H So Cory sets down the black Cat
and to Panga asks come again. Corey, without hesitation, responds,
I said, I'm glad the US of A ain't mixed
up in this war because I could never be away
from my best gal. To Panga, also now wearing red lipstick,
grabs his chin and smiles, I could never be away
from you, kiddo. Then Feene, who is ageless and I'm

(29:00):
still dressed like modern day Phoene appears from around the
corner and he announces the United States has entered the war.
May God be with us all.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Now, drum this is the first of like some really
invasive sound music music. Yeah, and like there's a couple
of them, but this one, I was.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Like, yes, drums and trumpets play in the basically fife
and drum where where it's like wow, but this happens,
you know.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I was like, Wow, that's a really bold choice, but okay,
and then a caps a couple of times later when
I was like, oh, guys.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
On the drums. But I think that.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
That was an attempt to save the episode a little honestly,
because yeah, save the energy, because I think we all
played it to ye straightforward or most of us, sorry Will.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, I'm going to say I certainly you could say
a lot about my performance straightforward.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Understand it. I really really came under the jokes of
this one. Sewan immediately turns the corner and tells Corey
he's going down to enlist because Uncle Sam wants I
walked on. It was like, oh yeah, like carrying books
with a belt is one of the coolest things in
the world. I was like, I'm going to bring.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
That back to carry five books in a belt, right
and like carry them over my shoulder.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I was like, because this, I actually do have this problem.
I still carry physical boots because I refused to use camels.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
And I was like, this is perfect. This just goes
with everything about me. I'll just start carrying. But but then,
did you notice the way I'm carrying it? Because the
way you're supposed to carry it, which I do later,
is like over the shoulder. The way I walk around
the corner and I yell, it looks like I'm about
to hit him in the head with It looks like
I'm about to swing.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
That thing right at him. I'm so and I'm like
cour and I was like, what am I? Oh, it
looks like I'm about to pound him. It's weird.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
But to keep it on brand for you, and when
you do bring that back, and I fully believe that
you're going to, you've got to hand tool your own belt,
which I'm sure is going to happen.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I got, yeah, you got cut the leather egg, I
got to raise the cow first.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Well, that's we'll get right, we'll get there. Sean admits
he wasn't going to, but Uncle Sam was pointing right
at him. And then you see that in case you're
unfamiliar with the poster, it is strategically placed directly behind him.
Uncle Sam saying I want you for US Army nearest
recruiting station. Funny joke. Funny joke. I know. Sean's proud

(31:20):
to defend his country, and asks Corey in the most
suspenseful way possible, will you join us? Corey looks at
the Panga, who is sick at the thought. Corey's torn
a dilemma of these times that weighed heavy on many
a young man. Patriotism and putting your life on the
line meant everything. Corey Stair is looking more confused than
we've ever seen him. And then when is fo it

(31:48):
was so I literally hard.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
When I truly go fad and then had to go
back and rewatch it and then insisted we pull the
clip because.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's just I think the it's I mean, I wonder
who made the choice of what decade we get, because
having to do World War Two with a comedy is hard, right,
And then the decision to make it kind of serious,
like I just because.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Could you make a joke out of all of this stuff?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I mean, even Will as an actor was like, no,
I'm not going to make a joke out you know
what they originally wrote. Which might have been part of
the problem is that then everybody was on edge about
like you know what I mean, Oh, we can't make
a joke out of Corey dying or the war because
then we're making a joke out of World War Two.
So it feels like, yeah, I don't know, like where's
the fifties. We could just be like, ah, they thought

(32:47):
the bomb was gonna shy yeah, right right, And in
this it's like, I don't know, I just wish we'd
leaned more into making fun of World War two movies,
you know, like there was more like cliches from old movies, and.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
They can't try that. They tried that with clear like yeah,
but it's not quite enough.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Ye yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Then we're into the Matthew's kitchen, still in the nineteen forties, Alan,
who appears to be in the Armed Forces, is loosening
his tie looking at the paper. So that's it. We
ship out tomorrow. Eric and Corey then walk in and
Corey repeats his dad's sentiment, So that's it. We ship
out tomorrow. Amy, with pin curls and bright red lipstick on,
quickly stands up. Oh no, surely the army can make

(33:39):
do without at least one of my men. Eric matter
of factly states they wouldn't take me. I have flat
feet and I'm too ticklish. Apparently I'm a torture risk.
Amy is relieved to hear this, and she goes in
for a hug, but Eric immediately starts to giggle. I
give up, I give up love shirt. Then an air
raid siren sound and the entire family stands alert. Feeni

(34:02):
runs into the house wearing a helmet and carrying a
large bullhorn. It's just him practicing to be the neighborhood
air raid warden. He gets to keep the bullhorn if
they win. Eric realizes everyone's doing their part in this war,
and he wants to help too. He's going back to
the recruitment office to tell them a little case of
flat feet isn't going to stop him from fighting those
evil Canadians. Alan admits, I have a feeling it's not

(34:24):
the flat feet, and then another one of those music
cues very sweet Music chimes in as Topenga gleefully walks
through the door. She tells Corey the good news. Glenn
Miller and his big band Orchestra A come into town.
Can they go together? Amy and Alan give each other
a look, and to Pega notices cheapers. Why you guys

(34:45):
looking at me? All funny? They realize Corey didn't tell Topanga,
and so Corey breaks the news that he's enlisted. Tapega
is devastated. But you said you couldn't be without me.
We were going to be together forever. Corey firmly tells
her this is something he's just gotta do. Penga runs
away without saying another word. And then we are at Chubby's.
Three USO singers stand on stage performing Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy,

(35:08):
and the entire restaurant is plastered with patriotic posters and
everyone is dancing. Men are standing around in full uniform,
two of them being Sean and Corey. Corey's on the
phone asking the operator to connect him to Panga Lawrence.
He eventually hangs up and sighs, Golly, you can drive
from Philly to Cleveland in a week, but you don't
have a machine that can take a message.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Not not good facting, even with the old timey phone.
I know, I thought maybe, I mean, it was like
he didn't even need to think of the okay, Like
he didn't even listen for a response. It was just
it's man ben in facting's so good.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
But such a good actor, such a good actor. Sean
tries to cheer him up that Dame loves you up
to the sky and back. She wouldn't let you ship
out with saying without saying goodbye. Corey emphasizes, I ain't
just saying goodbye. Phoeni hears this and butts in, don't
say ain't your mother will faint. Just because they're in

(36:09):
the navy doesn't mean they need to talk like sailors.
Then we see Eric not in uniform, dancing with a
pretty girl. He's bragging, Yeah, I could have shipped out
with the other Joe's, but the fact is I'm on
a secret mission here. I'm guarding the Philadelphia Bell. The
girl corrects him, the Liberty Bell. Eric slily explains, I've
said too much already, and then so Jim Carrey too much.

(36:31):
It's like, oh my god, I'm not even trying to
hide it.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Anymore.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
It's just Jim Carrey at this point, You at this
point thought, well, people who watch movies don't watch TV exactly,
that I'm sting Jim Carrey exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Thank god.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I mean I even felt like when I had the
line earlier about he was pointing right at me, I
was like, I could tell that I was burying the
Joe because I could tell that they wanted me to
say he was pointy right at me, right, because that's
the way that's me to make it funnier, and I
just don't do it.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
And I know that as an actor. I was like,
I'm not doing the shit it. We've already got our
Jim Carrey because it's right there.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
You see the reading, and it's like he was pointy
right at me, Like you indicate as much as you get, Like.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
It's a joke behind me. Yeah. Yeah. Then she tickles
him and Eric immediately breaks Okay, okay, it's the liberty bell.
Then Jack walks up. I just heard about the mental thing.
Eric asks, you mean my flat feet. Jack raises an eyebrow. Yeah,
that's it, the flat feet. The pretty girl walks away.

(37:40):
Immediately Eric wishes he was going to Jack nods he
would have loved having Eric by his side, so Eric
tells him he still can. He takes a picture of
himself out of his pocket, bring it with you and
put it in the foxhole over his bed. Jack hesitates,
people will talk. Eric agrees, I know that's a great
picture of me.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
He takes the stage as the crowd, I'm so hoping
that you still had this photo.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
It's so good. The crowd applauds. Before you ship out,
I want to wish our boys courage, perseverance, and a
safe trip home. And during the lull in the fighting,
I'd like a thousand word essay on what I did
in my summer in Europe. Then Amy and Allan enter,

(38:30):
and Amy yells out, remember please and thank you. Just
because you're a war doesn't mean you can't be polite.
Alan tells her he's the one who makes the orders. Now,
he sternly shouts to the recruits, let's load the buses
and head to Europe. None of them move, so he
begrudgingly adds please, and everyone complies. Corey can't leave yet.
Topanga isn't there. He tells Sean, maybe she doesn't love

(38:51):
me the way I thought. But then to Panga waltzes
in again with happy theme music. She responds, of course,
I love you you big lug wouldn't let you leave
without a proper goodbye. Corey gets serious, There's something I
need to ask you. He takes her hand. I know
we're young, but we still love each other. He gets
down on one knee as the background music escalates. Marry me

(39:12):
to Panga. She's shocked. You want me to be missus
Corey matthews. He nods more than anything in the world.
Then we hear high pitched giggling. It's Eric being tickle
pushed down the stairs by his daddy, telling him to
stay off the bus. Alan grabs Cory. They need to go.
As Corey is being dragged away, he begs to Panga

(39:34):
to give him an answer. She shouts after him. Yes, Corey,
I'll marry you.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
We already had of cosal yes, and before the real one.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
They're setting it up.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I think they kind of are right, but I feel
like to Pang his birthday, they set up that your
parents might they were going to get married sixteenth, their sixteenth,
your grandparents, Yes, so they're.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Oh it's Tapega's lineage. Well, she is the one who
eventually proposes.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, they're setting us up, definitely setting us up. Yeah,
it's just interesting to think that, like somehow because it's
in the past, like the fact that they're really young
getting married is not a.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Big deal, like and I think, yeah, it's but.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
It is the end of this season, isn't it that
you propose? It's the end of season? No, No, when
we graduate is to graduate? I think is graduation five?

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (40:32):
So what kind of is a template? It's a temperature?
Is the inspiration? Like did this happen? And then they
were like, we could do this, right, they could do
it in the nineteen forties and nobody bad than I.
I suspect that once Michael made the commitment back with
the like long Walk to Pittsburgh Long Walk to Pittsburgh episode,
the fact that it had already been set up in
My Sweet Sixteen episode that like that my parents I

(40:54):
think they were I think Michael had it in his
head that he was going to end the season high
school graduation with the proposal. I think, more than anything,
looking for a good we'll definitely get picked up. Great,
it is really smart. Yeah, So she poses at the
bottom of the staircase with one leg propped up. I'll
be right here waiting for you, and when you come back,

(41:15):
we'll have the rest of our lives together. Then we
see newsreel footage of the war. It's black and white
scenes of soldiers fighting and as a narrator explains, they
came from all forty eight states, are proud fighting men.
They have optimism in their hearts and only one thing
on their minds. And then we cut to Corey and
Sean at their station. The video still and black and white,
and Corey's looking longingly at a picture of Tapanga. The

(41:38):
camera pans to the other soldiers who are hanging pictures
of their girlfriends at their stations as well. But I'm
not looking at a picture of anybody. It kind of
kills the joke.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Like the joke should be, like you cut to everybody
looking at photos, right, but like I'm like pumping a gun.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
You should have pictures of like seven girls. Joke wallet exactly.
Oh my god, Yeah, that's what it should have been.
Made it better. So then we're back to color. And

(42:14):
I'm assuming this whole episode wasn't in black and white
because ABC didn't want that. Yeah, probably not. Yeah, No,
So we see Jack who props up the framed picture
of Eric. The other soldiers give him a judgmental look,
and Jack defends himself. He's just my roommate, okay. Alan
enters from a nearby tunnel in full combat gear, chomping
on a cigar. He's quickly become General Patton. All right,

(42:36):
you dog faces. He sends a shoulder off to fetch
the k Rations, then hands his son a package from Amy.
It's a Waldorf salad dressing on the side. The other
men look on in disbelief. Corey admits, I have a
little trouble keeping the k Rations down. Sean asks if
Corey's heard anything from Tapanga. Not yet. He misses her
more every day. Sean yells to the group, this man's
hurting any of you. Other mugs got a hard luck

(42:58):
story of a loved one left behind. They all look
to Jack again, He's just my roommate. Corey says he
can't expect mail to be on time during a war.
Then right on cue, a mailman shows up. Mail call.
He's got something for Corey. Looks like this to Panga.
Girl's got a bed for you. Corey is furious you
read my mail. He snatches the letter and goes to
read it in peace. To Pega's voice reads the letter.

(43:21):
I liked this part. I liked the voiceover of the
letter being read out loud. I'm going into a whisper,
did you background to?

Speaker 4 (43:28):
So obviously all the extras you're told don't open your
packages or your letters, and they're just holding.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Boxes and staring at them.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Matt Lawrence is pulling a full on writer, like just
vacant stop but he just stops acting. You can just
see behind him, he like just closes his mouth. He's
not even trying to talk to other soldiers and he's
like looking down. Yeah, and it's like what does he doing?

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Like at least pretend to talk.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
But it's like me when I when we did the
when I went to the pinball machine with the baby, and.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Like I just stopped acting. You can see that, just
like I'm just going to stand here. That's so funny.
She is counting down the days until he returns and
dreaming of their future. Alan interrupts to Panga's voice, Hey,
pipe down, we got letters too. To Panga's voice whispers
the rest of her letter. She begs Corey to come home.
Then boom, we hear an explosion incoming, everyone scrambles. Corey's panicked.

(44:20):
He tells Sean, I made to Panga a lot of promises.
If I don't come back and you do, I need
you to do something for me. Marry her. Sean can't.
She's your sweetheart. Kissing her would be like kissing you.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Corey emphasizes, what how do you guys feel about this
whole storyline?

Speaker 4 (44:36):
It was it happened in the war a lot. It
happened in the war a lot. It's like, you go,
you got to go marry my best girl.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
That kind of thing. That was actually a thing. Yeah,
it was a thing. It's so weird.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I know, this is the strangest thing. And I didn't
remember it at all, So I was like, what is
and I didn't. Okay, so this was a thing.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
It was a thing, and it was a way of showing,
like truly, it's a way of showing how much Corey
cares about Topanga, that he really wants her to He
wants to know that she will be taken care of
and he trusts Sean to take care of her. And
I know, and also I was like, it's the forties.

(45:15):
It's like no other man would have that woman. I
must immediately know you can take that.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Talk about how many horrible marriages were the result of
this kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Oh, no, awful to think about just these poor women,
like if they because if they refuse, who is yes,
you know, leather jacket wearing jacket, who's just trapped, trapped
in patriarchy. Corey emphasizes he said nothing about kissing. He
just wants Sean to marry the gal. Sean nods, okay,

(45:50):
oh marrier. Now we're in the Matthew's backyard. Amy is
dressed as Rosie the riveter. She's working outside. Poene walks
up and points out that she's riveting. They just send
her away. She took it home.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
It's like, I'm just gonna take the one wing from
the plane with me.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I'll finish this at home. She thanks him for the compliment. No,
he means she's literally riveting. Oh yeah, she's decided to
join the war effort. Phoene asks why she isn't down
at the airplane factory with Rosie and the other ladies.
Amy scoffs those lazy so and sows they leave to

(46:29):
feed their kids as soon as the whistle blows. Then
she breaks down. She misses Corey and Allen. Phoene assumes
she must get some comfort from Eric. Eric proudly strolls
out from the kitchen. Well, the Liberty Bell is safe
for another day. He admits the enemy was able to.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Put a.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Will no pants. I was like, yeah, this is this
is a good look for will.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I know you got I mean you always do like preppy,
well but like the nineteen forties prep.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I was like, Rozi, yeah, yeah, So the enemy was
able to put a crack in it while his back
was turned. But he speckled that baby right up. Then
he swiftly flips a fedora onto his head. He's a
cure to go along with it. Thank you. I remember,
Betsy the first time I did that. When did you
see you see what he just did with his hat?
And I was like, I just flipped it around once.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
It wouldn't like.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
It's pretty impressive though, looks thank you. I know it's
not hard to do, but it looks great, and you
do it well, there's flair. Yes, we're in the Matthew's

(47:38):
kitchen Salem. The cat is perched up on the counter
speaking into a telephone. Sabrina pick up. It's a boy. Okay,
it's a cat. I'm stuck in the forties and I'm
dying here. They haven't invented kitty litter yet. The magic
cat weeps into the phone. He brought them there? Why
is he stopped?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
And then when they go back, he doesn't do anything
like he can just make him go back, right.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Well, I do have a small note. I do have
a small note. He ate a magic time ball in
the Sabrina episode, and so he might I didn't watch
the Sabreen episode, but he might not have full control
over it.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
So he's on acid time ball. So this is your
episode about him being on Guys, we got our answer.
He swallowed a time ball. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Time is going to send him back, but this time ball.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
Okay, okay, can see if you would have rather been
in one of the other show's decades.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, the sixties or seventies, eightiet would have been pretty fun.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
It had been perfect for us.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
Well, i'll tell you what they had. Sabrina had the sixties. Yeah,
you wish had the fifties, and Teen Angel had the seventies, so.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
We could have had the seventies. We would have couldn't
have done the fifties again, so we could have either
had the seventies or the forties.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
You guys kind of got the shaft. I think seventies.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Seventies would have been best.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Wait, but what were it? I want to know what
the big difference they did between the sixties in the seventies.
It's not like it's the sixties and the twenties.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
It's right, you know, well, it's super weird because the sixties.
One is, Sabrina goes back to the sixties to discover
that the flower Power era was not so groovy for
pre liberated women. That's I understand that plot, okay, and
then teen Angel has a nice day in nineteen seventy six,
which is roughly the vintage of Marty's Fonzie like Angel impression,
which I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Oh, that's why we couldn't do it. We couldn't do
another Fonsie thing.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
But Sandy was the fifties, even though the fiftiesties, I mean,
even though it was in the seventies when the show
was on the air, it was actually set in the fifties.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
So it's very strange. I don't know, time time, ball time.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
You know. What's interesting is we wouldn't have done the
eighties because they were like to recent. It was just
that interesting. Now the eighties would be like one of
the best to go back to.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
And yeah yeah, or the nineties, Oh god, if we
ever find a time ball, we got to go back
to that.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Ye I have a camera. I wonder you should find
me a time ball. You have a radioactive camera. Halfway there,
way there, You're right. So then we're at the war.
Corey sad. He plays a harmonica as the rest of
the group sits in silence. Alan Patts's son on the shoulder,
what apparently him not actually playing the harmonica, because then
it keeps going throughout the scene playing it. But I

(50:12):
was like, what is there a ghost? Coury? What you
didn't bother you guys at all? It's not so harmonica.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
When he's walking, I was like, oh, that's you know,
Ben blowing into harmonica. But then when he's sitting down
and having the conversation, it still thoughts up again and
it's like at the same volume, the same harmonica, and
I was like, whoa. So they just were like, I
don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
But that's great. Alan Pats's son on the shoulder and
tries to cheer him up. The war will be over soon.
Corey smiles, then brings something over to Sean. Also, there's
a really big laugh at the war will be over soon.
The audience likes a really big laugh, and I was like,
I missed, I missed a joke. I guess, I don't think.

(50:52):
I don't know, but also does doesn't this mean we
would have had to have been in Europe for like
years at this point if the war started, which because
the war wasn't going to be oversued. Oh right, So
they're laughing because we the war just started, but then
we actually do end because this is supposed to be
the end of the war. This is you guys have
supposed to have been there now for years. I think

(51:14):
how long? So Corey didn't hear Tapanga careers forty one
to forty five, thirty nine?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Well for America America forty one because we started with
the day of infant five.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah, so four years. Yeah, so we've done Europe for
four years and he hasn't heard from Topanga until he's
just staying yes, I guess, so okay. Corey smiles, then
brings something over to Sean. It's the ring he's planning
to give to Topanga. Sean asks him where he got it,
and Corey happily states cracker Jack Box. Sean admits, if

(51:46):
ever two people belong together, it's you and Topanga, but
Corey reminds him about that promise, you know, the creepy
one where you have to marry your best friend's girlfriend
if he dies. Jack runs in and turns on the radio.
The announcer says, once again, the war in Europe is over.
The soldier's cheer. Corey shouts to the clouds, Topanga, you
hear that I'm coming home. He climbs the ladder and

(52:08):
jumps out of their bunker. Last one back to Philly
is a rotten egg shy giant boom mic in that shot. No, oh,
coming in right from the corner. Just this big old
boom mic coming. Well, there we go, and then pop
it right out again. Yep, Sean yells back, Wait, you
forgot your ring. Then the announcer continues a ceasefire will
commence in twenty four hours. Oh no, Corey is long gone,

(52:33):
but Sean tries to yell out to him. We then
hear a large explosion and Sean looks out onto the battlefield.
As he yells for Cory, a pair of dog tags
drops into his hand. The worst has happened. The main
character from Boy Meets World has died in a very
weird episode. And then we see more newsreel footage of

(52:54):
the end of the war. It's black and white video
of soldiers reuniting with their loved ones and the country
is celebrating. The narrator mentions that the transition from war
can be hard for some. We're back in the Matthew's backyard.
We return to color a few seconds in. Amy is
still riveting and Alan begs her to stop. The war
is over. There's nothing left to rivet. He tries to
open the back door, but it won't Budge, did you

(53:14):
rive at the door again, darling? Amy insists, if I
stop riveting, it means the war really is over and
Corey is not coming home. Jack and Eric appear from
behind the bushes. Jack is in full uniform and Eric
acknowledges his valiant efforts during the war. Jack commends him
right back. The boys in Europe are really proud of
the work you did defending the bell to Panga and
Shaw arrive next. Tapanga asks Amy if she's heard anything

(53:37):
about Corey yet. Amy is certain that any minute now
he'll be walking through that door, but Alan reminds her
he won't be able to open it. It's been riveted shut.
Sean chimes in, I guess I put this on off
long enough. He announces that he needs to ask Tapega something.
He gets down on one knee and asks her to
marry him. Everyone gasps in unison, and Topega slaps him

(53:58):
across the face. Sean ads, I probably should have mentioned
it was Corey's last wish, and then everyone nods, understanding me.
I do think that that's a little bit of a
wink and a joke about what's happening, like, oh my gosh,
why would he do that? And then well Corey wanted
and ride right? Right? Of course that makes sense, like
that's that's that's leaning into it a little bit like right,
that makes it to help sir, that is uh so,

(54:20):
And then you guys get to do Will and Matt,
you guys get to do to Penga. Yeah, later we
can know that, which is great. It's so fun.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
But this is where Ryder and I so you and
I obviously you can't look at me.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I didn't notice that. Oh yeah, you can't look at me.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
And then when you finally do, your mouth starts and
they cut back to me and I'm turned sideways that
you could clearly tell that I'm laughing.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Oh my god, which lines what I don't remember the
exact lines. Penga says, if it's what Corey wanted, Sean
pulls the ring out of his pocket. Corey couldn't wait
to put this on your finger. If you blow into
it, it makes a siren sound. Sean notices to Pega isn't happy.
To Pega responds, you're not Corey. Before they can make
plans to Panga runs off, Sean tells the group, Hey,
if I had things my way, Corey would walk in

(55:05):
the day after the honeymoon and have the whole thing annulled.
I bet we had done that. It was a couple
of times, and you guys, because yeah, I'm clearly to laugh,
So I bet that that is. I bet that's what
it was. I saw the later one with you and

(55:25):
Matt that was way too had I also love that joke.
If I had my way, he look in the day
after the honeymoon. It's so funny. He's so smart, smart,
Amy grabs Eric by the shoulders. Corey is Tapega's one
true love. She knows Corey's out there just waiting for

(55:46):
someone to rescue him. She tells Eric, if you want
to be a hero, you go to Europe and you
find him and bring him home. And then we are
in Peris, France with an establishing shot of the Eiffel Tower.

(56:10):
We're in a French cafe and a woman is kissing
a Parisian man named Pierre. They had to have Corey
cheat on Topanga even.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Make out with another girl any anytime he slightly bumps
his head, has a dream, whatever, he he just.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Needs to have a little bit of space from her,
and it's bound to happen. Boom.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
By the way, keep in mind, it's it's the straight
up Homeric, you know, going back to Troy where Topanga
of course has stayed completely and totally loyal to him
and hasn't done anything for a year, but he instantly
helps up.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
With another woman.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah, and she seems older, and like, I know, did
she strike you guys as a little.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
An older French woman?

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
And then and that really hit me when like she
and t Panga look at each other later and I
was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
The pang is the right stranger and this is weird,
and yeah, I know a kid. So we quickly realized
that Pierre is actually Corey. He leans in for another
kiss and she tells him he must get back to
his painting. Corey says, who cares about work when you're
French and in love. The woman reminds him that the
doctor believes the painting can help restore his memory. Corey

(57:26):
assures her all I remember is waking up naked, my
clothes burned to a crisp, and I was speaking perfect French.
This runner of a joke about him speaking French is
very funny to me. I love it. The woman laughs
at the idea of him speaking perfect French. She then
points out the woman in the portrait another thing we
don't see. I kept waiting to see it.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
I was so frustrating, obviously, so waiting to do the
reveal at the end of the epicaus reference is a
painting that was like, oh, let's see I.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Know odds yes, the girl a phantom from a dream.
Every night I wake up in a cold sweat seeing
her face, hearing her voice. The French woman insists that
maybe this girl is his one true love, and then
we're back in Chubbies. It's now Sean and Tapanga's wedding.
Topanga walks down the aisle, clearly unhappy. She asks Alan

(58:17):
and Amy if they've heard anything about Corey. Alan says no,
they have to face it, but Amyan says, snow, she
is sure her son is still alive and he loves Tapanga.
Phoene stands before them holding a bible. Here comes the
Bride begins to play and he somberly looks at Tapanga.
It's time. Sean and Tapanga do not look ready? Yeah,
this is this is where I wrote. I'm sorry. Can

(58:39):
someone explain this tradition to be? What would exactly work?
What no one else would take her? It has to
be it has to be the best friend, okay, all right?
And like, why would Tapanga ever told you? Why? Well,
if it's what Corey wanted, yeah, oh exactly, you can''s
not about your happiness. It's not about me. It's about

(59:00):
my boyfriend, obviously, of course.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
So uh.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
We are then back in Paris, France. Eric and Jack
walk into the same Parisian cafe. Where we saw Corey earlier.
The two boys are very smart. There's only a one
in Paris too, yep in Paris.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
And by the way, I have completely now dropped Jim Carrey,
totally different.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Now you're well, Now you're like a p I a
funny bi The two boys are complaining about the French
being rude and calling them ugly Americans. Why would they
do that? Then Eric becomes a complete ugly American and
yells to the familiar waitress, pounds his fists on the table,
Hey lady, come on the regular. Jack reminds him they're
there to find Corey, so he shows the waitress a

(59:42):
picture of Corey. She examines it. He does look familiar,
but ultimately she says, no, we don't get many ghosts
in here. Jack takes the photo. You've been showing everyone
a picture of Corey in his Halloween costume. Eric nods scary,
huh boo another time where again insert would have been great.
Don't see the picture. Then Corey, dressed like a mime,

(01:00:03):
walks into the cafe and sits right next to the boys.
Eric notices this, dude, I should just take a picture
of that guy. After some inspection, Jack tells Eric to
look closer. Eric screams, you're alive. He ecstatically embraces him.
My Cory. So this is the plot of Muppets Take Manhattan,
is it?

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
Which is one of the good greatest Well because Kermak
gets hit by a car and he doesn't you are
doesn't know Yay Tordelini from Passaic, New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I don't feel Italian.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah, that's a great movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Corey pushes him off. He doesn't know any Corey. He's Pierre,
the tortured French speaking artist. Eric tries to jog his memory.
He's Corey Matthews from the us of A to pang
Us back home, about to get hitched. They've got to
get him home. Corey turns to Versailles, tell these American
tourists who I am. Forsie size, I knew this day
would come. She says farewell to Corey and French, and

(01:00:57):
he stops her. I'm sorry, I always. She decides, if
this is the only way for him to find peace,
he must go. Corey gets out of Eric's grip and
assures her the only way for him to find peace
is to put an end to the dreams of the
girl that haunts him. He gets down on one knee.
Make me the happiest tortured Frenchman in all of Paris.

(01:01:18):
Marry me, and then we cut back to Sean and
Tapanga's wedding. Phoene glumly states, well, Sean marrying Topanga this
is weird. On the other hand, who would have thought
that as principle I could perform marriages. It's so funny.
Topanga raises her hand. Wait, I object, she can't do this.

(01:01:39):
She knows Corey is still alive. When you love someone,
you just know. Amy responds, that's why I sent Eric
and Morgan, who is the flowers in the show. She
was in the background of a couple of seats. She
gets the talk.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Then back in Paris, France, Eric's at the podium in
the cafe. He tells Jack he's likely ordained to perform
the wedding ceremony, considering he's the brother. Why is Eric
all of a sudden performing the ceremony that he didn't want.
It's supposed to stop, Okay. I was just like, hey,
this is the part you don't get. Versai grabs Corey's hand.

(01:02:14):
This is what you want, Pierre, Corey yells yes, of course.
Then he remembers something. A house in the country, kids
playing in the field, someone to grow old with. These
are all things to Panga wrote in her letter, is
his memory coming back? Is this what also happened? To Kermit?
Versailles asks him what's wrong, and Corey brushes it off.
This is the woman he wants to spend the rest
of his life with. Then somehow, to Panga has arrived

(01:02:39):
and just says, oh, kermy Topega bursts through the door,
still wearing her wedding dress. Is this what you want?
Jack and Eric are shocked to Penga and that's where
he's just he can't eat.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Oh, he literally can't. It seems like you guys were
like waiting, feeling your guys, you both do it and
he just has to look away.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
And then he looks right at the camera. When he
looks back, he's like, did anyone else see that?

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
God, it was great. Eric boasts to his mom, I'm
performing a wedding ceremony. She immediately tells him to go home.
Versi recognizes her. She's the girl from your painting, but
Corey cannot remember anything. To Pega exclaims, maybe you'll remember
this and kids this time, and she grabs his face

(01:03:30):
and ensorceles him. Corey admits it does seem familiar. Then
he asks for Cy what she's got to. Pega grabs him.
Corey matthews, if you think for one minute that I'm
going to stand here, And apparently it was the nagging
that helps him to recall his memories. He shouts to

(01:03:50):
Penga for Ci hands her the bouquet. She knows her
days are done. Corey says the last thing he remembers
is climbing out of a foxhole to see her. He
must be in heath. Tapega assures him he's alive. Corey
wonders about the Shawn promise. Tapega says she could never
be with anybody else. Her dreams mean nothing without Corey,
and then triumphant music plays as Corey says, I told

(01:04:12):
you i'd come back to Penga smiles I found you,
you big lug, and they kiss, and then we're back
in the tag at John Adams High, Back in time. Still,
Sean asks Corey what he's going to do about Topanga
now that the war's over. Corey says he's going to
pop the question all over again. He wants to Panga
to know that he really does care about her and

(01:04:32):
that gesture wasn't just because of the war. So he
makes his way Toto Panga and tells her there's something
he'd really like to ask her. But then that green
and Yellow Camo cartoon time warp strikes again, and we're
magically back at John Adams High. In the present day,
Corey and to Panga are standing in the exact same spot.
She reminds Corey that he wanted to ask her something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
He asks it, Wait, are they in the exact same spot?
And are they wearing the same clothes?

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Not from before? Swap positions, actually swopping sides too, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
So time kept going going in the present day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
It's not you. No, we're not in the same positions
we were at the beginning of the episode. Different, we're
in the same positions we were right before the Camo
time warp just happened again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Right, okay, so the time present kept going right, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Right? Okay? On it all right, I'm here. It's it's
math now. It makes perfect. It's hard, but it makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
He asks Stepanga if she wants this cool siren ring
he found in his crackerjack box. She put it on
her finger and smiles, I'll treasure it forever, you big lug.
She leans in and kisses him, and then we get
a second tag. Back in Paris, France, Sabrina's cat Salem,
is sitting in the cafe. He complains he's the only
one who can't find love and romance in Paris. He
has to go somewhere where people are real and down

(01:05:53):
to earth. La, here I come, And then I guess
perhaps this is yet a third tag. We're at the
CBS Redford lot where we are currently shooting Boy Meets World.
Salem is trotting across the lot. What a flight five
and a half hours behind a screaming kid, five and
a half hours from where Paris. Yeah, that doesn't make

(01:06:14):
any sense from New York. You have to stopover in
New York. Yeah, so the last leg, Okay, five and
a half hours behind a screaming kid. Somebody ought to
put him in a cage down below, because then I
had to think about what that meant. And Salem was
in a cage under where the luggage goes. Why couldn't
you transport? Also, guys, why was he hearing a kid then?

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Exactly? And I don't did he not have a seat
on the plane, because then he was You can be a.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Cage under the seat, but he wouldn't be sitting behind Anna.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Now I found a flo is so now we're seeing,
we're seeing outside the Boy Meets World lot.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
So he traveled all the way to LA to where
the show that he had just entered into the time
was in film. There's a lot, which now a lot.
If you're gonna do this kind of meta thing, shouldn't
it be one of us throwing away from right home
where he'd be like, ah, because it says boy Meets World?
For like, I was like, I didn't remember this is

(01:07:13):
Corey going to show up? But it's going to be
Ben or something that would. Yeah, I like that joke. No,
that's all we get, though. Salem hops into a dumpster.
Above him reads a sign for Boy Meets World. It's
maybe our most meta moment yet. An argument could be made.
Maybe a man wearing a tuxedo and a top hat
tosses a half eaten orange into the trash. The cat
looks at him and asks, hey, are you famous? Where

(01:07:35):
do I find Drew Carrey. I want to have lunch
with this guy. I thought maybe he was gonna have
a line, or that it was somebody we knew or
had no famous No, I think was just a background actor.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
Yep, the man is just think he was one of
the soldiers. Maybe maybe he looked familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
He looks familiar to me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
I think it might be somebody that was around a
few times, or maybe friends with somebody on the show.
Because he looked familiar, I was like, I think I
know that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Well, the man is disturbed and he walks away as
sale and yells out you gotta love La. And that's
our episode nineteen forties baby, nineteen forties. So please join
us for our next episode recap, which will be season five,
episode seven, I Love You Donna Karen Part one? No

(01:08:19):
idea what that is? No idea? Two part episode. It's
the first episode is Donna Karen? Okay, we're getting it okay.
It originally aired November fourteenth, nineteen ninety seven, so exciting
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