TGI – Episode 508 “Chasing Angela” featuring Trina McGee - Pod Meets World

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H writer, you're in yet a new location, Yes, a

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new location. That is the oldest location. This is my
childhood bedroom.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh yeah, pink where's pink Floyd poster?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
No, none of the stuff on the walls is mine.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Besides this glorious photo of Will and me as Batman
and Robin. And then this was my map that I
used to put pins in of where I was going
to drive on like road trips. I should like update
it because I still have Like I had a color
codeed so it was like the.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Where I wanted to go and then where I'd been.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
But then since I moved out, my parents made it
into a guest bedroom, put in this giant bed, you know,
took out my waterbed.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Can you believe it?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
They put up a cabin fever poster because they didn't
want to have it anywhere else, I guess. And The
Buck Naked Arson, which is a movie that we actually
shot here. Yeah, right when boy Be World ended, So
it's not really oh, but you can see the ceiling
is painted in this like the Yeah I did that
when I was like sixteen, and me and a friend

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of mine took paint and covered our hands and just
painted the ceiling yeah, and we didn't quite finish it,
but you can still see hand prints.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's yeah, your ceiling looks like the Caesar's Palace Forum
shops exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I didn't realize it, but that's what I was going. Yeah, Salad,
that'd be great.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
I want to know what it feels like to have
so much stability in your life that you could still
record from your childhood bedroom.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I it's awesome. My parents have.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Moved only eighty five times since my childhood.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Then your regular room is gone. Now you are literally
in the white void. You're getting what I'd said when
I first popped out this morning, I'm like, daddy, I'll
hold up today's paper and let me know they're doing okay, I.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Am being held captive. No, I'm in. I got an office.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Jensen and I took a took a giant leap and
decided that our marriage, our family life would be better
if we had more strict dividers between where we work
and where we live. And we had been doing all
of our work out of our home office, which, unlike
writer's office, which is at least a separate property on

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his property, it's just the room, a room and the
downstairs part of our house where then when our kids
were home, they didn't quite understand why they could be
there and hear us working, but we couldn't deal with them,
and it just got to a point where I was like, listen,
I think we need an office. And so now we
have an office. I have not had the time or energy.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
You decided to move to the TV room from Willie
Walk and the chocolates happing ye TV, so you.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Decided to go.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
I will do something. I will do something. I will
put something on the walls. I'm not sure what I'm
gonna do yet or when I'm gonna have the time
er energy to do it. You may be stuck seeing
this for a while, but eventually I will do something.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I'm want to send you a full sized poster of
my headshot. I do want that out.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
I actually if I could just have two pictures of
you guys, like full poster size right behind me.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
You can't you remember somebody we were at a convention
and was it Jackie pulled up? You can buy hard work,
life sized hardwork cutouts.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Of us, not of me. Remember a lot of your
thing there were you each had one. It's like I
was never on this show. It's just I don't get
recognized anywhere. I don't have standy's and nobody cares about
my feet. Yes those are standies, my friends, So yeah,
that's fine. It is what it does bother me.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Welcome to Pod meets World.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilford O.
So very exciting recap this week. We are here to
recap season five, episode eight, Chasing Angela, Part two. It
originally aired November fourteenth, nineteen ninety seven. It was a
two fer on this night. They aired part one and
part two back to back, which feels a little anti

(04:00):
climactic to me if if you ask me, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Watch episode It continued, though after watching the episode, it
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh really still, I mean, this is like you, the
most horrible thing and the best thing in television back
in the day was you'd be start looking at the clock, going,
wait a minute, they're not going to be able to
wrap this up. They're not gonna and then the two
be continued comes on. It was likely wait a week, yes.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
But see I think, yeah, I think that there's something
kind of wrong with the structure of this This episode
that you know that that they were like, oh, let's just.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Put them together because it didn't. It didn't need the delay.
It didn't. It was just one long episode. That's what
I felt like.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So I was like, oh, this was not really a
well plotted out anticipatory thing because they actually the biggest
turn happened at the end of the last episode, and
it was a positive turn.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Right we found out it was Angela. Oh, oh my gosh.
That means they're going to get together. And then they do,
and then they do, and then they do. Well don't
real for me, I haven't seen it yet. They get together,
damn it. Okay.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
So the one of the reasons this is very exciting
is because miss Trina McGee herself is joining us for
this recap.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I'm very excited before we bring her in.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Let me do. Let me tell you the synopsis. In
the conclusion of a two parter, thanks to a lost purse,
Sean realizes he might be in love with Angela. However,
Angela might not feel the same way. Across town, Jack
and Eric are nervous about hosting Thanksgiving dinner for the
Matthews family in their new apartment.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It was directed by Alan Myerson.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
It was written by Matthew Nelson and guest starring Miss
Trina McGhee as Angela Moore back for an important second half.
And then we also have Heather Shannon as Beverly. This
was Heather's first acting job and almost her last. Her
only other credit is the two thousand and two movie
Mother Ghost and please, I want you to remember the

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title because we are coming back to that. Then we
have Selim Grant as Ted. Selim is a recognizable nineties
face who appeared on The Wonder Years, Salute Your Shorts,
and Sister Sister, but is best known as Hollywood from
Saved by the Bell, The New Class, and from some
roles in some pretty great movies including La Confidential, Angus,
and he was the son in Ghost Dad.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
So yes, we've got the ghost.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
This episode features an actress from Mother Ghost and an
actor from Ghost Dad.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Oh my, the Ghost gives and this is not hyperbole
or exaggeration. He gives an Academy Award possible nominated performance
in La Confidential.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
He is so good. Oh that's right, it's unbelieve.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
He's one of the kids who gets caught and he's
being interrogated and he's breaking down the interrogation room. He is,
the performance is outstanding, and he's created.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Work without somebody like as funny as he is so good.
But oh Man Confidential is next? He is so good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Just touching back on ghost Ad for a second. It
was directed by Sydney Poitier.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Really, yes, I never knew that. And then we have
Brian George as Eduardo.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
He was a very busy character actor seen in movies
like Austin Powers.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Bubble Boy, and Ghost World. Are you kidding?

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Not kidding, guys, I just I can't make a good
stuff up.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
The spirits were trying to speak to us this week.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Also going okay, Yes, he was on ghost World, but
also TV shows like Seinfeld, The Secret Life of the
American Teenager, and sixteen episodes of The Big Bang Theory
as doctor V. M.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Kuthrapoli.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Also worth noting he is a very busy voiceover actor
with credits like a ton of animated Batman projects.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I worked with Brian all the time and we're so
familiar to me, like on Seinfeld.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
But how many episodes of the show did he do?
Is this the only one?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Just?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think just one? Okay, then I must have met
him outside of this a couple of times like I did.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I don't know, because I must have sent ten voiceovers
with him. And then I did an on camera show
with him called Regular Joe with Daniel Stern. We did
six episodes of that, and then I ran into him
again a year later, and he had no idea who
I was. To the point where when I said, were
getting Regular Joe. We did six episodes of that, he went, no,
you weren't on that show. Oh, literally told me right

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to my face that I was not on the show.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
But he was not.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
He was one hundred percent serious podcast. You were not
on that.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Show anything about us? Literally told me I wasn't on
my own show.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I want you to bring him on this show and
be like, we work together on Boy Meets World. No,
you weren't on that show.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah he was, That's what it was.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
He's literally saying, Well, he was also Duff Killigin on
Kim Possible.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
He was, so he was, he's been.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
We worked together, we did hundreds of episodes and stuff
together and no idea, no idea.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, and then McKenna Jones is back for her second
episode in a row as Beth so let's please welcome
miss Trina McGee to join us for our recap.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Good to see you, guys, good to see you.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
So we are so excited that you're here to recap
this episode with us, just so you know, because you
would not have heard our first recap of the part
one to this episode. Okay, we think your character introduction,
minus that first episode you were in in season five
where you just had like a line or two sitting
in the back of the classroom.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
That's part of it.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
You love it, you love it. Yeah, okay, yeah, Well
I was gonna say, let's not count that as like
the intro, but you're right if we count it as
a taste of a intro, Part one leading into this
Part two is one of the greatest character introductions on
a TV show I think I've ever seen. I instantly

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care about this character. I'm interesting, immediately intrigued by this character.
I want to know more. I already have so much
love and affinity for this character. Like it is just
it was so well done.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Also, the chemistry between you and I is just it's instant,
it's it pops through the screen.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
It is just it's right, it's there, it's there, right, away.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
To start together with such an interesting and perfect part
because it's like, oh, you already see us together, and
then you're kind of like.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Oh, but this works. Why are they why are they doing?

Speaker 3 (10:37):
And then you're just waiting for us to get back together.
It's really well written, so good.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
You know, I just had this revelation at the day
that there should be like a dating show called the Purse.
The context of that you have to pick the girl
or pick the guy, and you only have the purse.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Great idea, Trina, great idea.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Go sell it, Go sell that. I see I see
Nick and Vanessa la hosting the Purse.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I know, yeah, I'll do it right now. Should we
do the contents of my backpack? We'll just do that
because the contents of my backpack would totally.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Some dirt, an extra pair of books, underwear, literally because.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I don't do kindle or anything, so I live.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
It's like four books and then I have like three
different notebooks, like three different journal situations two different times.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
That's you know, if you found it, you could read
all everything I'm writing.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
We know the interior of your brain, yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
And reading.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
Yeah, that's a great idea.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
So let's jump into our recap. Since this is a
part two. We open with a previously on Boy Meets World,
and then we get a rundown of the most important
events that happened in episode seven. We see Sean finding
the purse. He's impressed by its contents. Then we see
the purse girl show up to get her stuff, but
she has a boyfriend, and we hear Sean's heartbroken.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Speech in the hallway.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
And then jumping into this episode, episode eight, we start
in Chubby's We hear a girl enthusiastically chanting, give me
a te give me an E, give me an R
Sean Hunter. It's a cheerleader, yelling directly into Sean's face.
She plops herself back into the booth next to Sean.
See I can make a cheer about anything. And then,

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Sean is a.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Funny joke because the whole idea is that the cheer.
Whatever you say, she's just gonna spell whatever you say.
Now that's the whole chair. Whatever you say, she just
spells it as like.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
See I can make it out of anything. It's like
you're just spelling whatever just said. Okay on them on
the pia right exactly.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Uh So, Sean is surprised they didn't let her on
the cheerleading squad, but the girl has had enough small talk.
Do you want to make out? Meanwhile, Angela is on
a date directly behind them, because other than pinks, which
we've heard mentioned once, there's nowhere else to go.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Corey into Bank are.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Onlookers, and boy, oh boy, do I want to have
a word with myself about my posture.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
You are a little slouchy. It's hard on those stools.
Stools are not good for televirason.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I also don't like stools in real life. No, thank you,
high chairs take them away. Posture too, I really I
have not noticed that about you to make it like.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, no, see that's that's at least good mind, and
mine is terrible.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
To the point where we were at Ryder's house, the
bartender out of nowhere just went, you know, I'm also
an amateur chiropractor.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I can fix that role in your back. I went,
I'm good. Yeah, thanks, thank you, sir, Thank you, strange sir. Yeah,
you want to keep that hump.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Lots of bells to ring, thank you.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
So, Angela's date is recalling a sports story, and then
the coach says, Scooter that's what he calls me, Scooter.
Angela is clearly not impressed. Gee, what happened next, Scooter?
And then he asks her if she wants to make out? Trina,
what do you remember about filming this week?

Speaker 5 (14:30):
I remember that. I remember I really liked just as
a friend, the guy who played Scooter, and he had
Yea too, and they were in the business together. They
were sister and us brother. They were like getting hot
for a minute, like doing a lot of sitcoms and
stuff and everything, so they were really nice to talk to.
And you know, I remember being so nervous, and when

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I look at myself, I don't feel like I was
acting my best, you know. I was kind of stiff,
and my mind was racing, like am I getting this right?
I think people that knew me were kind of like
treating You're not doing your usual. You know, I usually
try to pop more, but I felt like I had to, like, yeah,
you know this.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Interesting nervous.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
They're so nervous. So I never felt like I was
really emoting like I wanted to emote. But when I
look at it now, it's.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Fine, you know, I mean, yeah, it definitely it definitely plays.
But I we have We have talked a lot about
how season five has felt different.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yet feels a little feels a little forced.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Some of them Boy meets World, like they're like, we
cannot be canceled. Five years is hard. Five years is
when you're supposed to be canceled. That's that's the mark.
So I think at that point, what I'm feeling is like,
we're not going to get canceled, So bring on, bring
on the Redhead, bring on the girl. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I think what you're feeling like when you're talking about
like how you're not popping or you're kind of.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
For me, like it's the writing of this episode. It's
just like it's just the sort of like.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Unraveling or the unrolling of like what was started in
the last episode.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
The last episode was so good and so well written,
and then this one just feels like one kind of scene,
like the reveal of you know, and I really besides
the dinner table stuff, which I you know, with the
Corey tapango, which I thought was hysterical and like, you know,
big but funny, the stuff between Sean and Angela is
just like they're great for each other, so let's just

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show that, and like, you know, they don't allow us
to have any inter conflict between us. Really, like the
conflict is that there is no conflict or that I'm.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Anxious about it. It's like an anxiety show as opposed
to real conflict. And so you're like we're mostly just
speaking exposition to one another. Like in every one of
our scenes, we're just like I'm scared because I feel this,
and you're like I'm scared because I feel this, and
I'm you know, it's like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
It didn't say like the way people actually talk to
one another to me, and like so if I wanted,
like I wanted it to happen and I liked these characters,
I didn't feel like they were played for realism or
it was just sort of like, let's just bring this together,
let's wrap this all up.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
So like the whole episode felt.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
A little inevitable to me and a little like A
and they was like, okay, cool, you know, so I
don't know that, and so I feel like that, you know,
if like Angela had come in with more personality or
more attitude and that had been a problem. More like
they disagreed about something a little more like intensely, like
in scenes we would have more to do, but instead
we're just kind of like, I don't know's.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I kind of liked. I liked though. I liked how
it was. I liked how it was, you know, with.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
With very little intro to Angela's character, you got that
she was Sean essentially, It's like they had something where
neither of them had really been. You know, this unfolds
obviously is the episodes going, but neither of them had
really been in a relationship before. They're they're kind of
both scared for some reason, but we don't know why yet,
why they're scared to get into a relationship, and they

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both realize at the same time that they do want
something more and they want it with each other.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
To me, it kind of worked. It worked that it was,
you know, it's a sitcom, so it's going to be
inevitable that they're going to get together.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
But I liked that it was.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
It wasn't opposites attract It wasn't we're fighting and now
we love each other. It was they're both realizing at
the same time they're kind of the same person and
they're going to do it together.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
And I liked that. I thought that was cool.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I guess, like a clear example for me is like
when she's still dating Tim right right?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Ted? Ted? Okay, Ted's Ted? If she had just if
you know, instead of like the way the way that
that scene goes, it's like, you know that she feels
bad about this and that there was any confusion, you know,
whereas she's like, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I'm dating Ted, like you know, and then it was
like oh god, you know, and like and then we're
that conflict was like but I actually like you and
you know, I don't know. Instead we're both in the
same position of like, well we really love each other.
I guess it's just not gonna happen. It's like why
not Ted?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Obviously, I don't know. It was like just the way
it was all sort of yeah, it was kind of
the idea.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
And that's what you get when you're looking at Coreyantopanga
is the idea of love to them was better than love.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's what love is.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Because when they saw it and I love that, Tapanga
finally explodes and it's like we're eighty.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I don't want to be eighty.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
So it was that kind of like do we want
to jump right into that I don't know it worked
for me. I think you're right, it didn't work as
a second episode, meaning like you didn't need the week
in between.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I think you're one hundred percent right.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
But if they just played it for an hour straight
without a break, I think it was a great one
hour episode. Sure, Frankly to bring the two of them together,
because you're so rooting for the two of you, because
you do have such chemistry that you just you want
to see this and where it's going. And that's a
tough thing to do, especially on an established show where
you've got a character like Sean Hunter, that's the ladies man,

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that's the from the trailer park. To bring in another
character that in an episode, not even in half an episode,
you already are rooting for them together.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
That's tough.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
So it was as I was sitting there watching, I'm like,
I I kind of at this point just because they
were going funny with Corey and Tapanga, and I get that,
But I was over Corey and Tapanga halfway through the
episode and was concentrating more on Sean and Angela because
you're like, Okay, I get now that we now just
have to accept that Corey and tapanga have. This is

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the nineteenth different version of how they met, the nineteenth
different version of how they've been together. We now just
have to accept that this is what they are. They're
the old married couple. And so I kind of dug
I like watching it.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
But I was like I got it, Like I get that.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I could put that to the side and now I
wanted to watch this new fresh God is this going
to work for Sean? And to bring in a character
right away that can already match that energy, I thought
was pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Trina, do you.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Remember your first episode of season five where you were
sitting in the classroom and and you were you just
had like one line. Do you remember that first week?

Speaker 5 (21:00):
That was a lot for me, that whole that one
line took like my whole week. It existed, but like Corey,
you know, over and overagain in my head. Yeah, no, no,
you know that was I thought that was kind of
an odd way to be introduced into the show, ye
with this weird one line out of nowhere, like who

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are you? And then I'm like you need to do that,
like who are you? To just kind of had to
do this project.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Did you know that in the future, like in just
a few episodes. They were going to do a very
big two parter introducing you.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
No, I was living in my head a lot then
if I didn't listen, well, they might have said that
these are the things I didn't listen to. I didn't
listen to. It's a reoccurring. I just automatically thought that
I was a series regular. Somehow my head didn't register
that way. Okay, So when I actually was told I
was a series regular, I was like, Oh, already have

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been talking about you know, yeah, you know, so I
wasn't the greatest list. I was always in my head
a lot. I at that time. I was worried about
so many plethora of things, being ten years older than
you guys.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
The thing I liked the most about that particular, the
episode we're talking about too, is just the fact that
they didn't really get so into, of course, the color
of our skin. You know, they really just you know,
and I've always grappled with that over the years. I've
talked about it or whatever, but it's such a human
testament of how we can feel each other and love

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each other and be interested. And I also like the
fact that it was a different kind of trope for
a black girl on television to not be you know,
extra sassy or be able to be nice and feminine
and loved and not in conflict or or I mean,
we were in conflict and struggle, but the love was

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always there, you know, and I think that that was
that was really good school. So all those things were
always going through my mind, like, you know, aside from
the genuine character like as a black woman, like I
got to make sure that I pulled up my sisters,
but so many like tight ropes you have to to
walk on. So I think a lot of times when

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I look at it and I say, I didn't pop.
I was being so careful about my choices, my choice
very yeah, Okay, I do want to sound too, sister girl.
Didn't want to sound too why, you know, it's like
so stupid, so many.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Things, Yeah, but so many considerations that you had running
through your mind that none of us would have ever
known was you know, we couldn't have ever but you
had so much on your plate.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
It is interesting I noticed, you know, like because we've
always talked about how we never referenced race in relation
to Sean and Angela, and yet in this opening scene
they partner you without the same thing and me with
a white girl, and it was like, so, I was like,
I had never it never even occurred to me. It
was like we are talking about it without having to
say anything about it. We're we're like, we're yeah, it

(24:06):
was super interesting. I was like, ah, so they're they're
showing us like what we're supposed to be with or
like what we nor like the default position. They are
showcasing that, and then you know, having us break that
barrier even though we already dated before. But yeah, so
it's it's so interesting to see the way. And I
talked about this when we watched the Perst episode too,
Like the whole point of the Purse is that I

(24:27):
fall in love with the contents of your character just
you know, without knowing anything about the surface of who
you are, which is another sort of way to talk
about race without talking about race, right.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Like and that.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
So it's so it's so interesting to revisit now after
all these years of like conversations between us or with
fans about like whether we should have referenced race or not,
or did we reference race. I'm like, it is there,
it's just not it's just not explicit.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah right.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
It was also an episode where we did the karaoke
later on and then they with with another black guy.
You know, Like so sometimes what's not said is pretty
pretty loud too.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Jumping back into our recap, Corey, who is nearby looking
on with Tapanga, is conflicted. He has to tell Sean
about Angela. Topanga disagrees, he told you not to interfere
in his personal life. Corey argues, this is the woman
of his dreams, the woman he could spend the rest
of his life with. That's not personal. He marches over
and interrupts Sean, who is making out with his cheerleader date.
He asks Sean to let the nice lady breathe. Sean

(25:41):
is annoyed. This better be important. Corey tells him the truth.
Everything that was in that purse belongs to Angela. Sean
corrects him the purse belonged to Beth. To Panga creeps
in from the back to clarify Angela borrowed Beth's purse.
She turns to Corey to remind him. But that's none
of our business, now, is it? And then he turns
to Sean, what are you going to do about it? Mister,

(26:02):
Sean scoffs nothing. Angela and I already went out for
two weeks. If I was in love with her, you
don't think I'd know it. Corey assures him that Angela
is everything he's ever wanted in a girl.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
He just needs to look.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Into her eyes and he'll realize it a new type
of ensorcement.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yes, this is a callback to the first season forget this.
You giggle giggles right to touch her hair? Right, it
wasn't it looks? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just I love how many types
of ways women can ensorcele men.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
A kiss and we turned to Jello. That's just the
way it is.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
That's right, We're very powerful.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Sean has had enough.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
He walks back to his booth, but Angela stops him
on his way and playfully touches his hand to say hello.
Sean notices her book of sonnets and starts to giggle.
Angela looks at him, completely confused. Why is he giggling?
Sean can't high his gettiness, and he turns to Corey
for help. Corey reminds him look into her eyes. Sean
does as he's told, and he stares directly into Angela's soul.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I felt like.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Maybe creepy, feel like maybe you were trying, you were
trying to suck it out of her, just a soul
right out of her.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
What's happening? What is happening right now?

Speaker 4 (27:21):
That's basically what she asks. She's even more confused. Why
is he looking at her like that? He softly explains,
because I never have before Sean drops the book of
Sonnets before stumbling backwards. He makes his way back to
Corey into Panga, stuttering, it's Angela.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I have a great read too, that kind of like
you're amazed. Oh my god, it's Angela. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Then we go to a commercial break and we come
back where at John Adams High, Sean runs up to Corey,
who greets him with a huge grin and asks Sean,
he's in love? Did you call her? Sean says, no,
no way, too nervous, he wouldn't even know where to start.
Corey suggests starting with hello, but Sean says that's risky.
It would probably come out I want to have your children.
Corey can't help but laugh. Sean Hunter, man of a

(28:06):
thousand dates, afraid to call a girl. Shawn's eyes narrow,
How dare you my family comes from Cossacks. I fear nothing.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
And noticed there was no lass like the audience that
they didn't know what to understand what it was. Because,
of course, if you want to hit a good thirteen
year old, fourteen year old joke, you talk about the Cossacks, right,
So I was starting to play.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Hey, did you say that joke all the time on set? Nothing,
I'm I'm Scottish.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
No. Oh, you know, maybe maybe we would quote Braveheart,
I remember quart all the time Freedom if you really
would have said, no, I don't even know what a
Cossack is.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Listen, I listen, guys. I googled it, and I still
don't have anything to tell you.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I don't know the Cossacks were.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
They were Russians, but then they helped in the German War,
but then they were turned in by the It was weird.
Essentially trader. Essentially traders is what a Cossack was at
the time. So if you were a Cossack, you were
a trader.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
We've already established as Shans Italian, so I don't know
what that's all about.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
But all right, and then okay, yeah, but that's not
the thing about the scene that through me. The thing
about the scene that through me was was the the
sign in the hallway that said rooms for rent in
high school, that one with the little poll tab, like,
because you're in high school. God, somebody's got a room
to replace for me, all right.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
I thought I was breaking when I said this my
people come to class, and then then covers with by
laughing through his line a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
But yeah, okay, so you guys saw it too. I
was like, oh, I couldn't get through this.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I don't know if you guys thought it was funny,
which you were the only one, or if it was
you thought it was funny because no one was laughing,
Like you know, yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Those are those beats where you hit a joke and
you run into the wall first, head first, and there's silence,
so you start to because it's so bad.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, they let that go.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
All the way to tape. Though it wasn't funny. It
wasn't funny, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I know.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Listen, there's some stuff in this season we are a
little we feel like maybe people were tired.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I want to know who's living and dying by this
cossic joke where it's like, no this is gonna work.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Damn it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Oh so, Corey nods and he sees someone approaching good
here she comes. Sean bolts past Corey and right into
the custodian closet. Angela arrives and Corey tells her Sean's
in the closet. She says, hi through the door. Sean responds, Angela,
you smell nice. She's confused, and to Panga appears carrying
a bundle of balloons. She exchanges helloes with Angela as

(30:45):
she's walking away. Tapanga tells Corey these balloons were just
delivered from Balloonatics.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I like the name. I like the name too. I
thought that was cute.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah, yeah, Balloonatics is cute. The card reads happy Anniversary,
Love Norman. Corey's puzzled. I'm pretty sure, I said, Corey,
and I also made reservations at Barelli's. Topanga asks, wasn't
it our anniversary last month? Cory says no, they were
just doubling with his parents because it was their anniversary.
To Pango's baffled, wait, so when's ours? Sean chimes in

(31:14):
from the closet. It's Wednesday. To Pango wonders, how come
Janitor Bud knows our anniversary.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Then Shawn Janitor Bud mentioned Janitor Buds right fired, and
he came back as a secretary.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
The secretary Janitor again. We're about to in the scream
episode that's upcoming. He's we call that guy Janitor Bud too.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Do we?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
The guy that gets gets killed, the guy we can't
be dying, We call him Janitor Bud.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
I thought that was Janitor Bud.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I think it is. I think that guy Janitor Bud too. Man.
Oh geez, Okay, so we'll see. We'll see.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
My memory may be faulty, but I'm pretty sure we
we say Janitor Bud like all right, Uh, so we'll see.
But okay, uh and then why Sean's dad Yes, and
Janitor Dad of course? Oh you remember the episode Janitor Dad.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I didn't remember the name, but I do now, So okay,
not to be confused with ghost Dad. Different differ, different
different movie.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
So Sean exits the closet and Corey explains that he's
hiding from Angela to peg is in awe.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Oh that's so sweet.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Sean's convinced that everything he's ever known about girls has
been completely erased from his brain. He looks at a
girl who's passing by. Hello, sir see, I know that
was wrong. He's never been worried about a girl liking
him or not, but with Angela it matters. He really
wants her to like him. To Pega gushes again, this
is so cute. Corey agrees. Personally, I worship the man.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's a little sad.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I thought, what a funny joke for everything we've seen
between their relationship up to this point.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Ye, I loved it.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Angela returns and Sean tries to bolt again, but to
Pega pushes him back towards Angela.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Why is Angela walked away? Coming back back and away?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
They didn't give you any reason to walk back in,
like you know, I left your purse on the table,
or going to a locker. We're just like crossing for
crossing sake at.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
The like, what's happening?

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yeah, I'm one of those actors, especially back then, if
you didn't give me a reason to walk across, I
would find the reason in my head. So I can
imagine what I was thinking, like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
You had something in your mind for sure this time.

Speaker 8 (33:24):
Because but this.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Whole set is so weird, Like this whole hallway set
doesn't work as a hallway, doesn't work as a living room,
and so we're and we're trying to have it as
both all the time, and like there's no like, just
just give us like a coffee machine or have some
reason for this room to exist or a copy.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
You have to disagree a little bit because and I again,
I don't want to harp on this, nor do I
want to throw anyone under the bus.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
But it worked last week.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
And so some of the blocking has not been great
this season to the point where we've been noticing it.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
But last week when trainer directed, or when when it.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Was yeah it was David Kendall, I didn't notice any
weird crosses or anything strange in the hallway.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
The hallway worked fine, And this week I was like,
what the hell is going on with some of these crosses? Trina?
Do you remember working with Alan Myerson? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (34:16):
Yeah, the older.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yes, that guy.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
Kids.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Okay, you made him the bad guy on Scooby Doo
all of a sudden. I would have gotten away with
it if it wasn't for these medaling kids. Did you
like working with Alan?

Speaker 5 (34:40):
I liked Alec. Alan would check y'all a lot okay.
Alan would check me all the time. He'd be like,
and what's your excuse for laughing giggling with them?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
You're all right?

Speaker 4 (34:53):
I like that guy.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
I like to be checked.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
So okay, Alan.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
Alan, Alan was uh. He was very authoritative.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I remember, hm, you know, but is it quiet where
I remember him being very He was quiet, wasn't he No?

Speaker 5 (35:07):
I felt like his silence was like always judging.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Us, That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
It was like he did it in a very like
kind of quiet way where it was like he would
stare at you, just be kind of quiet and stare you.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I loved him. We got along really really well. But
I'm noticing some of the bad.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
I did not get along with him. I just felt
like he was so in the like the parent mode.
Even as an adult. I felt like he was so
older and a thorative and like stop it. He never
laughed at anything, you know, right, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I think it's a riot, you know, I think, looking back,
I think what he would do, which was probably I
mean it was one hundred and eighty degrees opposite from
Jeff McCracken, is that he would come in and be like,
all right, you stand here, you stand here, you walk over.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Here, then you're gonna say this, and then you're gonna
do it, and and just told us where to go.
I think, like will you and I thrived in that
because it was like, you're not talking about my performance,
you're not talking about my feelings. You let me do
all of that and da da, And I think some
people just really hate that, you know, but I mean,
and it's it's a style in retrospect, I would hate

(36:08):
that now, like that is not my style of acting
or directing. Like I think it's antithetical to the whole
you know. I love it wasn't organic, it wasn't organic.
But I think at this point during the show, I
didn't care me. It was just like, oh, I'm plugging,
play Sean now. Whereas in seasons two, three, and four
with McCracken directing, there was so much conversation, there was

(36:29):
so much investigation, and I cared I really wanted to
like find Sean or have these moments. But by this season,
I can tell I'm just like.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Where do I go? Sure, I'll make it work, I'll
figure it out, and I kind of do.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
But I think there's a lack of depth here in
a lot of these moments, I think like there's a
lack of motivation, there's a lack of explored there's just
unexplored territory, and a lot of these these ple for me.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
By season five, we are kind of we're on autopilot
a little bit. I mean, it's just we and we
know what we're doing. Get the jokes, let's go where
we're going. So somebody, I think you're right, somebody coming
in going stand here, walk here, do this for again.
You And I was like, okay, great, I'll take care
of the rest, but you're right, I'll cross over here,
I'll do this, and I'll say that, and I think
you're right.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
So Trina, just to fill you in a little bit,
the episode before this is the first episode of the
season that wasn't directed by Alan Myerson. It was directed
by David Kendall, and it was far and away our
favorite episode of the entire season.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
Thus fall.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Oh okay, so.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
We are noticing a very stark difference in the one
episode that was directed by somebody else was beautiful and
just effortless and had been so great, and then part
two we're back to Alan Myerson and we're noticing, oh,
this feels a little more like some of the episodes
we saw before. So we're just we're just.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
You know, definitely like a dictator director. Okay, actually reminds
me real quick of ice Cube. That's ice Cube directs.
Really you met at her lay it out?

Speaker 1 (38:00):
That's it?

Speaker 7 (38:01):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Yeah, yeah, I love knowing that. So then after a
few giggly exchanges, Angela asks Sean if he'd like to
go out and get something to eat later. He nervously responds,
I'd like that. Then she pulls something out of her
pocket and hands it to Sean. She saw it and
she thought of him. He is speechless, and she offers
a casual seeya and walks away. It was a seashell.

(38:27):
Tapanga asks if he likes seashells, and Sean defensively answers,
I like.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
This one, like this one. I like that button. But
the whole seashell thing doesn't really make sense to me.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Well, no, it's just a fun People come up to
me all the time with that seashell line. Sometimes sells
just a seashell like that's what they say. That part
that Seashell played for a lot of fans.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Well, yeah, what doesn't make sense to you about the seashell,
just that they picked a seashell.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah, we've established all these things and you know, like
that a connector and for and then of course, like
I like the idea of the Perst episode was that
we have this mind meld of like taste and lifestyle
or whatever. But then the joke here is that I
don't like seashells until she gives me one, and like,
why did she think of me when she found a seashell?

(39:17):
How many seashells are you finding in Philly?

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Like all of it, none of it makes sense to me.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I was like the seashell capital of Pennsylvania. The point
is that she gives me something special, right, That's the point.
And so to me, it should be something that connects
us as something that we've talked about once or twice,
and that I'm like, see she does remember, or she
does have these feelings and we are going to do
a day, you know. But instead it's actually the point
of the Seashell ends up being that sometimes the seashell

(39:43):
is just a seashell. So I just didn't understand why
it's there, What what is this all about? It's just
to give Sean hope that he's gonna that they're gonna date.
But then if I don't know, I just like it.
None of it made sense to me, Like, have it
be an object, have it be a poem, have it
be tickets to a movie, anything that establishes.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Once showing Philly like a diamond in the rough.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
So then we are in Eric, Jack and Sean's apartment, which,
by the way, Seawan is never there, never your home.
That's why there's rooms.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
There's rooms to rent in high school, so you can
Shawn's room live somewhere else exactly, Just like.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
That, The fact that I was a roommate was just
completely cut out.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Again, none of it.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
This goes back to what I was saying, where there
is no point in Eric or in Jack and Sewan
being brothers, none whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
It was unnecessary to the show.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
It just should have been Jack and Eric met as
college roommates, and they were college roommates.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Like, why did you need anything else?

Speaker 4 (40:44):
So Jack is talking to his mom on the phone.
He completely understands and wishes her fun on the cruise.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
What a.

Speaker 7 (40:55):
Sorry son going on a cruise from taking giving a
Thanksgiving crew it.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
She took him up to eighteen and then just get out, Dude,
I get it. It's fine. I can't wait to be
able to not go on a cruise, but just kick
India of the house.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
You can.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
You can figure out Thanksgiving, Dude, I fed you for
eighteen years.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
I mean, he's probably off from school. You could invite
him to go on the cruise with you.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Ah. Anyway, is this implying that like Jack's because you
know that we had the storyline that he's well daddy's right.
So is the idea that.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Like, yeah, but they haven't really hit on that because
when he when when we had the like he and
I had the moment of like I would have content,
we didn't get the sense that like his his step
mom or his mom. No, so it's just mom wouldn't
his actual mom was like I don't know, okay, So.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's all hard to keep track of all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I know.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
So they are wealthy. So his mom might be an
awful person, is like his mom might be.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
But the only person he said something nice about is
he does say his dad treated him well, that he
had no issues with his dad.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
That's all we know up until That's what I was
trying to remember. Did he talk about his mom being
great too.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
In that the only thing is well though, I think
is yeah. But the only thing we know is that
immediately he says, my mom might have thrown those letters away.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
That's true too. Oh is that the storyline? So she
threw the letters to the letters?

Speaker 4 (42:18):
He said no, he said my mom. He said, I
didn't get those my mom.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
My mom.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Is what I'm saying. I established her didn't.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Because I hate women like I really this.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
One another reason. That's reason I said to the character
threw away the letters.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Now she's calling him to be like, I'm going on
a cruise for Thanksgiving. I'm sure you'll be fine. And
I don't like this, lady.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Mom, buddy, it's Thanksgiving. I don't want I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
By the way, great acting debut for Fort Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
The best factor on the on the show. Phone acting
is top notch.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
We have noticed that there's some some not.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
So great phone acting on Boy Meets World, and we've
decided to call it acting.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Well uh you and Ben is great when he has
a chord because like when he and I did the court,
you know when he's in it's actually not true.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
There was one where he had a court and he
was still trying to tried to close, tried to close
the thing. Do you know how your facting is, Trina,
Do you ever remember having to act with the phone?

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Oh, all the time. There's there's a secret to that.
You have to okay, you have to pick up the phone, right,
You have to be like you have to pretend that
the person is actually saying something and let them say
an entire sentence in your head, right right, just something else.
So you're like, hey, how you doing.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Really great?

Speaker 5 (43:47):
To give it a minute, you know, and you hear something.
But when you just keep going line after line, that's.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Right, That's that's why we just were You just holding
a stapler is remote.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
It's just a case to hold my courts.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
We're down here now.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
My problem is every time I was facting, when I
had somebody doing the lines in my head, they were
in the middle of the monologue.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
That took forever. That was the problem.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
It's like, and I'd be I'd just be like okay.
So yeah, so they they finally just stopped having people
call Eric.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
You we did. We needed a we did. We did.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Jack sadly hangs up and tells Eric he's going to
be alone for Thanksgiving. Eric responds without any emotion at all. Yeah,
it's kind of sad. Jack comes up with an idea
while standing next to the art above the sink, which
is now a photo of egg.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Roll it's we change it every week.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
We've decided we have new food items every week that
we just put up there.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
What is this joke is? I don't know. I do
like the.

Speaker 8 (44:56):
Design joke that like, it's got to be just for them,
because we never noticed any of this, So this had
to been for the set deck where they're like, every week,
we're just going to put a different kind of food
up there, and we're not going to mention we're going
to anybody mentions it because my guess is Michael would have.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Been like, why why does that keep changing? I don't
think anybody noticed. And it's actually it's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
It's great.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Yeah, we haven't seen any lobsters yet. I haven't noticed
any lobsters.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Lobsters until season six, ye six or seven. Yeah, should
we make predictions on what food is going to be
in there?

Speaker 4 (45:31):
We've had pizza, we're now having egg rolls. We had
something that looked like meat loaf. Wasn't that something that
looked like me.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I would say burger. I'd say some sort you're.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Right with, with a bun off and the toppings.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
I can picture it. Yeah, you can see the pickles yet.
That's a good one. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
So Jack comes up with an idea while standing next
to the egg rolls. Maybe I could join you and
your family for Thanksgiving. Eric simply tells him no, while
spreading peanut butter on some bread. I don't think they'd
want me inviting anybody else over after last year we
had fene over and he ate all the white meat.
Jack disappointedly suggests, I guess I'll just stay here and
order a pizza or something. Eric, getting zero messages here,

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enthusiastically tells him that's great. Jack throws up his arms
in defeat. Eric laughs, I'm kidding. I love needling you.
He has an idea, what if we have Thanksgiving here?
Jack's not on board.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
It's us.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
We could ruin Thanksgiving for a lot of people. Eric
then pours cereal on his peanut butter. Oh yes, was
this your idea?

Speaker 6 (46:28):
Well?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Oh yeah, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Anything I was eating was all mist Every time I ate,
I would always do something weird, and it was always
in my head. And here's the thing, this Bee story
really didn't need. It made no sense lifted right out
of the episode if you wanted to. And for some reason,
I remembered every single line and I had no idea
why there was entire a storylines I didn't remember doing.

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For some reason, I could mouth along with every single line.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Of dialogue from this Beast story and I have no
idea why.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
So funny, I wonder, I wonder what was going on
in your real life this week that made this episode
so salient.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I don't know, but at one point I turned to
Sue right before and I went gobble, gobble, black Ice,
and then it was just really weird.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
That's funny, because I felt I felt something in this
this this version of Eric, this sort of like super
confident but chatty and and dismissive of Jack version that
remind me of Fletch and a little bit okay, And
I could see that because that's very close to your
favorite kind of humor, Like, I know you love those

(47:35):
kinds of characters, and so I think maybe you just
really liked this, yeah, this whole thing, because it's like,
let me you know, because it used to grow you know,
the sort of like throwing away like and being super
condescending without even realizing it and like on your own trip,
Like it's very like your sense of humor this version.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
I just but yeah, I'm really condescending, writer Trina.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Do you when you watch episodes, do you ever remember
whole of dialogue?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (48:02):
Well I remember lines lines I love you, I've always
loved you. I say it to my husband all the time.
That's from.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
And he goes, I.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Get out here.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Wait that's from what what is that from? From Boy
Meets World? World? I've always them?

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Yeah, but usually one one line zingers I I love you?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Remember those? When's the last time?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
I'm curious, when's the last time you watched an episode
of Boy from beginning to end? Has it been a while.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
I watched it. It's it's been within the year this
last year of us all going to the cons. There
was something about watching it again after having spent time
with you guys. It was really healing for me. It
was like, Wow, it just was different. You know. I
always kind of watched it more for my flaws and
what I could have done better, But now I was

(48:55):
watching it like as an adult, as a whole as
an insumb looking at more like an domble thing, and
how the chemistry with everyone, what was really good and everything.
I still watch it. I'm one of those people who
doesn't like to watch themselves. I'm horrible. I will watch
myself over and over. No shame about it.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Good for you. No, I've done that too hard. I've
done that too. Confidence. I've done that too. It wasn't
with Boy, but with other stuff. I've done that too.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
And it's more to like kind of know that if
I ever do it again, I will see flaws in
my performance that I know I won't want to repeat.
So I'll be like, Okay, oh I did that in
five episodes. I got to make sure I don't do
that if I ever do something again. I haven't been
on Cameron seventeen years, and I'm still like, but if
I ever am, I did this one thing. So yeah,
I'm the same way. I had no problem watching myself

(49:44):
after a while either.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Yeah. I mean it's it's it's good for growth. My
thing about I usually don't like the way my face
is or whey I'm holding my because I mean a
lot of faces just as a person. It's like, yeah,
I mean it's okay to love yourself in this acting
world is yes, you know, there's a lot of negativity here.
You can look at yourself.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
And say, hey, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
We need more of that confidence. I am here for it.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Well, that's being an actor. It's a bizarre combination of
ego and insecurity. Gotta love being an actor.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Yep, it's a line you have to master.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Yeah, So Eric is glad Jack wasn't at Plymouth rock Ooh,
I'm hungry, Let's.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Go back to Sweden.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
And then he concludes the scene by taking a giant
bite from his PB and C sandwich.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Oh, I bet it's so good. Yeah, I bet you
it was delicious.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
And then we're in the John Adams High Custodian closet.
Sean is hiding, sitting on a bucket and reading something
when Corey walks in, Corey shocked. Sean is reading from
his Black Book, the early nineties edition. Corey asks if
he can take a look, but Sean pulls it away.
Some names in there could upset him and his parents,
and I thought that was a very funny joke joke.
Corey reminds him that that's the old Sean. There's a

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girl out there who likes him and asked him out.
Sean size, he realizes he'd be giving up all of
this if he went out with her. Corey says, it's
not about what he's giving up, it's about what he's gaining.
Sean laughs, no offense, but you have no idea what
I'd be giving up. Again, another very funny joke, Corey
dares him to find one girl in the book he
actually cares about and call her. Sean flips right to

(51:18):
the front, a Angela. She's the first name in his book,
and she's the one he wants, but a real relationship
is completely new to him. Corey references that airplane movie
where the nun had to fly the plane and the
air traffic controller had to talk her down. Corey will
be Sean's air traffic controller, so that means all Sean
has to be is the nun.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
As of how, Sean does his book alphabetically by first
name correct, so it's like, God forbid you, you're dating
four PAMs.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
That's not gonna help at all. That's so funny. I
guess it's in case he doesn't know their last name.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly with only two weeks you know,
ever know?

Speaker 1 (52:01):
And then we're in the guy's apartment.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Eric's schipping away at a giant chunk of ice, trying
to carve it into a turkey. Jack says, it's three
days until Thanksgiving. Shouldn't he be afraid of it melting?
That's why I'm making it bigger? And then a timer
dings Jack's pumpkin pies already.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Well was that real ice? Yeah, it was real ice.
I definitely remember. It was a big chunk of real ice.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
And for some reason Jack is making a pie days
before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
That I think he's practicing, because I thought of that too.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
The poppy pie, I thought of that too.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
But I did think he cares a lot about this,
and he wanted to give it pactice his pie recipe.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Wanted you to try it. See.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
I make sure he has it down.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Thank god.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I don't even wait for it to cool before I
dig right to the center of the pie.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Oh, wait for it to cool. He pulls the hot
pie tin out with one and the other one with
nothing of He has a wooden spoon in this hand,
and and no ofve admitt this one has enough emit
and He reaches in and with two hands.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Souls in great pie acting packaging called pack it is
facting great.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Well, no it was not, and I actually discussed this.
What you don't realize is that Jack has a teflon hand,
so this is a part of the backstory.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
He could you notice how much this is the stove
like rattled when he went to get it there, It's
just like like rattled. As he pulled it out, was
like it kind of like it's just a cheap like
little stove. But actually I was like, yeah, that's because
there's nothing behind it.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's all very funny. But he scoops out
some soupy pie felling right from the middle so Eric
can try it. Jack asks him how it tastes. Eric
makes a face and pulls something out of his mouth.
Is pumpkin pie supposed to have bones?

Speaker 1 (53:50):
So how did you do that? Did you have to have?
You had it? I had to know where to Yeah,
you could see it in this poon. Then Jack gives up.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
He's calling the caterers so they can provide the Thanksgiving
feast that the Matthews are expecting. Eric scoffs, my parents
Thanksgiving is like the least important day of the year
to them. They don't even exchange gifts. Then there's a
loud pounding at the door. Jack opens it to reveal
Alan in a black Canadian tuxedo.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Just the knock is funny. I know, pounding and I
know so great.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Hey, it's like this isn't going to be a serious conversation.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yeah, he steps in and tells the boys He's going
to get right to the point. Thanksgiving is the most
important day of the year to me. I'm sure Eric
told you that. Jack nervously tells him he did not,
but Eric explains, yes.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I did. Dad. He hears what he wants to hear.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Okay, now I thought this this whole bit was pretty funny. Yeah,
it didn't make any sense with Alan, like Alan as
we know him, either as in a like a hard
ass right.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Huh, or as a guy who would prank the kids
like this, Like it just doesn't like is who what
Alan is? This? Does this make any sense to you?
Because this is random love Thanksgiving Alan.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Do you guys remember when Alan sat us all down
and like told us we had to get it together?

Speaker 1 (55:13):
You guys don't remember that? Oh that meeting?

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Yeah, like in real life, I called.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
That meeting in the kitchen table. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was. I there for that.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I wanted to have it because we were having so
much conflict on set. It was with Matt and you
and me and Alan, and I said we need to
like sit down and talk, and Alan.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Said, I'll talk to him. I'll talk to him, and
we sat down and had It was awful because I
was trying to like broke of the piece and he
just he just wouldn't give up. And I think Matt
stormed away.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
I'm sorry, I'm I was. I just wanted in case
the listeners were also confused like I was when she said, Alan,
because this is the scene with Rusty.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah, yeah, I thought you were Alan Myerson. Okay.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
So Alan Myerson, so okay.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Writer.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
So there was conflict but between Alan and Matt and
Trina and you.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Not with me, but there was conflict that went between
that those they everybody was pretty unhappy and there was
lots of yelling and lots of upset and so I said.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
Had no conflict. I was just there in the meeting, like.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I said, let's sit down, let's have a conversation. And
Alan was just like, yeah, they don't listen.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
They don't they don't know their lines, and they don't listen,
they don't do their blocking, So what are you going
to do? And I was like, well, hold on, let's
try and find and Matt got up and it was
like it was it was I was hoping for a
resolution to make it a better working environment on the set,
and it totally backfired and nobody.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I yeah, because I remember, because I think you were.
You were telling me all the time like that you
were really unhappy. And I was like, well, we can
just talk to him about it. And he was just like, no, no,
they're not doing their job. So when we that's what
And I was like, oh, I guess not everything can
be resolved, you know. I was so like, uh, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
He didn't come in, but it sounds like he didn't
come in wanting to have any discussion whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
That he don't well, I think he would have been
open to discussion if if if Trina or Matt had
said here's how I want you to talk to me,
he might have. It could have been constructive.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
But instead everyone was offended by him saying that, you know,
they weren't doing their job, and so it didn't go anywhere.
So the whole thing just like ground alt and like
everybody split up, and I was like wow, But it
was a good lesson for me and that I was like, writer,
you can't fix everything like you're not. Sometimes it does
because I me and Allan got along fun and I
you know, the only thing that bothered me was the

(57:34):
tenor on set, you know, with everybody you know, which
now I can look back and say, like, that is
the director's responsibility ultimately, like it is not the actor's
responsibility to set the tone on set.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
But in my mind back then, it.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Was like we're all equals and the you know, we're
all working together, so why can't we all just get along?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
And I tried and.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
I was that Alan Myers last one.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
No, he's still He was there the rest of the
season and then never came back. I mean, I think
in retrospect, I think that that that Michael and the
writers probably loved Alan because he was quick and like
you were saying, train it was authoritarian and sort of
kept us in line and did not give many acting notes. Therefore,
Michael could sort of slip in to give the acting

(58:16):
notes and like take control of the acting. So I
think they thought it was good, but then I think
enough the word probably got back by the end of
the season that that it was like, you know what,
like what McCracken was doing took longer, but resulted in
a more like harmonious set environment and now that I'm
seeing it better episodes bet you know, so, I think
we went you know, and then we started you know,

(58:37):
then we got every director under the sun. From season
six and seven, we just kept changing like every week,
which is interesting. I was talking about Alan the character, yeah,
and I don't I don't feel like this is appro
like adequately set up. I just this is clearly a
riff on the pulp fiction watch scene, like you know,
the like really intense, like involved story to like empower

(58:59):
the meaning and to like.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Set the stakes. But I don't know, like, is Russ
is Alan making a show.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
We have established before that Alan loves Thanksgiving. We have yes,
we have established before he likes this day, he likes
this food, and episode we're they're talking about going to
the trailer park. He's like, this is my favorite day
of the year. Don't do this to me. I love
this day, I love this food, I love my house.
So we've established that he likes Thanksgiving. That didn't bump me.

(59:26):
The part that bummed me a little bit was then
later when it was like, oh, we were never going
to leave it up to you. Then I'm like, well,
what did he do that for? But what I'll give
space for is that it's possible. He went home after
this conversation and was like I was there, which it's
a mess. We're not doing this please, let's let's come
up with a plan. So I think that's kind of
how I convinced myself that it all made sense. But

(59:47):
to me at least, I remembered, oh, Alan does love Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
I also think it's it's almost from Matt Lawrence's point
of view of like if you're supposed to talk about
what happened, it's like he grabbed me by the back
of the neck and told me it was the most
important day of his life, when in reality was probably just.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Like, hey, I love Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
But like in Matt's mine, that's what that's what he
saw was like Thanksgiving and which made me laugh and
I just started with the knock. For me, it was
like I'm coming here to fatalistically tell you not that
I grew up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
I know what you're saying about the knock, but I
would have rather started more casual and then turned a
point of the scene is like Alan's just dropping by
and by the way, Thanksgiving's coming up, don't And then
I'd be like, what's funny too, And then it would
have been more like Jack's like, oh, I'm good, this
is gonna be fine, and I'm like, no, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Instead, it's like kind of Alan's coming in one note
the whole time, and I think it's less.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Funny the grill, even the way he's dressed to the black.
I think he's supposed to be the grim Reaper, right totally? Yeah,
you know, essentially is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
So he Alan tells him he remembers Thanksgiving dinner with
his grandpa Charlie thirty years ago. It was a big day,
his first football game, and he pulls out a pocket watch.
He got this gift from him. Then Grandpa Charlie went
upstairs to take a little nap and he died in
his sleep. He pats Jack on the back and it's
up to leave. Eric is now sobbing, Daddy, I miss
Grandpa Charlie. It's so good, so funny, and I was

(01:01:06):
actually crying too. I was like, god, I made myself cry. Yeah,
it's so funny. Alan looks at his watch one last time,
three days till Turkey that he leaves Eric's scoots toward Jack,
still breaking down. You make better pies.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
That beat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Will's so brilliant, Like it's you know, it's one thing
to be crying, but you also are crying exactly like an.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Eight year old boy right now. It's like it's like
a very specific kind of cry where you're like punching,
and then you're like it was perfect. I was like,
oh my god, because like you know, you could have
just been you could cry a million ways, but you
tapped into the very specific like you're like, oh, he
was seven when uncle Grandpa Charlie died. You could just
see the like childish. It was so funny. It was

(01:01:51):
so funny.

Speaker 7 (01:01:53):
I don't I remember all them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
So then we are back at Chubby's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Sean plays Vivaldi on the World's Weirdest Box again and
Angela recognizes it. She loves this song. If you close
your eyes you can actually see the seasons change. Sean
grasps I said that, I said that exact same thing.
Angela admits, yes, just last week, in the last episode,
I said that in the previous thirty minutes, I said.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
That what young teenager girl is gonna Likelvaldi? Like that
it happens.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Will and I were saying, we went through a whole
classical music phase when we were on the show, so
a lot of Bach, We listened to a lot of Boton.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
I listened to the Planets a lot like Yeah, talk
we love course, yep Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Angela admits she really likes hanging out with Sean. Maybe
they can see a movie later this week. Sean tells
her there's a new Van dam movie opening. Angela loves
the idea, obviously, so Sean suggests Friday night. Angela says, oh,
I have plans with Ted that night. Sean can't hide
his disappointment that she's still seeing Ted. He excuses himself
from the table. I better go check on our food.

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Sean walks over to Corey, who's sitting at the bar.
Corey assures him that Ted is a two weaker. He
means nothing, He's just a name in her book. He
encourages him to tell Angela how he feels. Sean asks
if he's sure and Corey asks who's driving this plane?
Sean admits Corey is. Sean returns to the table with
both of their burgers, and he asks Angela, what do
you think of Corey into Panga? And she thinks they're

(01:03:19):
a great couple. Sean follows it up with maybe we
can have what they have. Angela has taken aback they're
not even dating. Sean questions what are they doing right now?
And Angela answers, I asked you to get something to eat.
Sean reminds her about the Seashell, and Angela responds, Trina,
you want.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
To say just a seashell.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Sean then takes the leap.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
I want to be with you more than anybody in
this entire world. Why can't we be? Corey into Panga.
Angela is obviously uncomfortable. She tries to find the words
before settling on telling Sean she needs to go. She
no longer has a purse. I noticed when she left
she just decided to give up care. I know she
keeps losing them. And then it made me think so
funny that writer loses all his jackets, and and on

(01:04:07):
the show, Angela loses her purse, and it really in
like some weird meta thing. I was like, this works.
You know, we both lose her lost, lost the lost
and found couple.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
So this is like the It's so interesting to me
to see how the beginning of Sean and Angela was
always a counterpoint yes, core into Panga, which it continues
to be, right, Like there's always this like Sean trying
to have what Corey has, and it's just it's so

(01:04:42):
weird to me, Like I don't know if you know,
Like I don't know. It's like it just written into
the light.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
What it's like, get your own life, Sean, I say,
I want. Yeah, always you're always searching for what he has.
And I also know notice that every time that Corey
and Topanga are together, we would break up, and then
when we got together they would be broken up.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Right, they needed the conflict at all times from some companies.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Yeah, it's like the two relationships are like two different
models of relationships and which one's better and which one's
gonna work and and I don't know, like I just
don't know if that makes sense to me, Like why,
I don't know, But in a soaper operatic way, I
guess it makes sense because you look at the show
as like a metaphor for all love and it's like
and sometimes love won't work out and sometimes it will

(01:05:34):
and but then I don't know if that's an assessment
of the characters of the people involved, Like, are we
supposed to think that Corey and Tapango work because of
something about the two of them that Sean and Angela
don't have as people or as a destiny? Like what
do you think is like because in this case, it
seems like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
It's about obsession. I mean that's kind of unfortunately. Well,
I mean when you look at Corey and Tapanga, that's it.
We were meant to be together, and he becomes obsessed
with there, and then Sean kind of has an inkling
of that in this episode, where it's that kind of oh,
now that I've looked at her.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Now I have to have her, and you can't give
her away and you can't ever look then you have
to just be Yeah, it's like a real like double
down on love.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Well, it's also really interesting that Corey and Panga have
been together for thirteen years and yet Corey still doesn't
know that Tapanga doesn't want this, so he doesn't actually
know her at all, and yet Sean does already know.
I don't know, man, I told her we were going
to be casual. I don't really think this is a
place for us. So truthfully, Sean does know Angela and
who they should be or who they would be as

(01:06:35):
a couple, way more than Corey knows Tapanga, even though
they've been together for thirteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Yeah, just super interesting. We jump back into John Adams High.
Sean is banging his head against a locker. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Corey Worridley runs up and Sean reveals that his date

(01:07:02):
with Angela ended in a crash and burn. Nuns should
never fly airplanes. I'm not sure why Corey didn't get
blamed for this the way he did in Parsonic, the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
He says something in part one and he gets screamed.
At this time, he takes an active hand and it
crashes and burns, and Sean, my.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
What not?

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Very weird?

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I thought the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Sean pulls back out his black book. He's going to
go back to the way things were. Corey stops him.
That'll never make you happy. Corey looks in the black
book and shouts, ah, my aunt, so funny. Sean rips
the book from his hands and tells Corey he gave
Angela a shot and he got hurt. I would like
to say it's very funny, even though again that would
imply that a grown woman was making out with a

(01:07:45):
high schooler, which again super inappropriate, but it does tie
back in with the funny joke of there's some names
in here that might make you and your family uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
So Sean rips the book from his hands and tells
Corey he gave angela shot and he got hurt. Corey
insists that Angela doesn't know what she wants, but he does.
He says when he met to Pega thirteen years ago
in the Sandbox, story just continues to shift to Panga
started going after Joey Hutchinson. Sean argues that Corey was
only four, but Corey insists, you don't have to be
five to have feelings.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
And before the Lama Pen was we were saying five, right, six?

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
I think we were five in the Lama Pen. So
there was apparently a sandbox before this. Yes, I mean,
I guess in the Sandboa Pen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Lama Pen is Sean where he met I was already
you're already the wife. Yeah, okay, that makes it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Yes, okay, So his strollers in the first you guys
were babies and strollers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
Then it twitched to the sandbox.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Sandbox, and then and then then and then.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
We also had a great character introduction for Topanga season one,
episode four. Yeah that was also we just you forget
that one. So Corey could have just given up. The
sandbox was filled with pretty babies, but he didn't give up.
In fact, he told Joey he could fly and directed
him toward the monkey bars for that brief moment that
Joey was airborne. I told to Penga she had beautiful lips,

(01:09:09):
and I kissed her. Sean needs clarification. When you were four,
you told Topega she had beautiful lips. Corey nods and
a very cute tush. Sean wants what Corey has, so
Corey urges him to go and get it. And I'd
just like to state, this is very bad advice. When
a woman tells you she needs some space, maybe just.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Give it to her. That's the advice I gave Ryder
and we were in Amsterdam. No, that was go get her,
Go get her, get her?

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
Who know it is funny that it was just basically
boy meets world advice.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah, sometimes you gotta take, sometimes you gotta swing, you
gotta sing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
Last time, shoot your shot, I guess shoots your shot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Absolutely So then we're back in Chubby's.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Sean, back in his leather jacket, walks right up to Angela,
who's sitting at a booth with Ted.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Hear me out.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
This will just take a minute, he asks Ted if
he minds. In response, Ted offers Sean a fry and
this scene it is so funny and so perfect, and
all the performances are spot on. I love every second
of it. Sean looks back at Angela. I read the
same books as you. I listen to the same music,
I go to the same movies. So when I tell
you how I feel, it's not just words. Ted chimes in, Hunter,

(01:10:16):
I'm on a date here, come on so good. Angela
asks why Sean is doing this. They went out. He
told her it was only going to be for two
weeks and then it was going to be over. Sean
tells her, I know that you're scared. I'm scared too.
We both love Vivaldi and we're both scared. Ted with
a mouthful of fries, looks at Angela.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
I'm scared too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
Angela reminds Sean that he's never been in a relationship
for longer than two weeks, and neither has she. They
wouldn't know what to do. This is getting to be
too heavy for Ted. I'm taking my fries and I'm leaving.
Angela calls after him, but explains, But he explains, I
paid for these fries, and he just leaves.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
I love Ted. Ted's great, He's great. Sean.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
I feel like this could have been like the second
scene of the episode, do you know what I mean? Like,
I feel like we've been treading water. This is a
great scene, but it's like when Sean realizes it's Angela,
it should go right to this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
It should just be this and it would be fine.
Like all the angst and like just Sean having internal
it's melodrama as opposed to drama. This is like an
actual scene where something's happening, and you know, this is
what Sean would have been able to say this right away.
I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Yeah, your character got upset about things, a lot of
things that weren't really happening.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
It's all anxiety.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
Yeah, Sean begs Angela to give him a chance. I
just want to see you, and she gives him a
sly smile and response, and then we're in the Matthew's kitchen.
Alan is at the kitchen counter as Corey strolls downstairs.
It's another anniversary night for him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Into panga. He asks, what says I love you more?
A fern or a ficus?

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
Alan asks how long the two of them have been together,
because sometimes it seems like they've been together longer than
him and Amy Corey laughs, isn't it great? Then Sean
walks down the stairs wearing a suit. He's uncomfortable. He
told Angela it was going to be a casual night.
Corey says, yeah, that's my casual suit. Alan asks what's
going on and Corey explains that tonight, romance in love
will fill the air. Allan smacks Corey on the head

(01:12:09):
you're ninety and leaves.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
But that's not what he says. I remember that I'm ninety,
You're ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Ninety always pronounced it so strangely, and I remember, even
at the moment, being like, why does that sound so weird?

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Like you're nine ninety?

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
I know ninety ninety ninety, you're ninety like, okay, okays
ninety ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Yeah, he's technically right, but it's right. So where why
did Michael yell at him and give the library? I
don't know it because he's because I wasn't a kid.
You wouldn't because he was grown up like you're ninety ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Corey tells Sean that he and Angela have eight o'clock
reservations at Barelli's. Sean doesn't really see the two of
them in a place like that. Corey explains, if Sean
and Angela want to be like him in Tapanga, then
they'll go to Barelli's. It's the place where dreams come true.
It says so on the menu. And then we see
the Barelli's menu, and yes, it says where dreams come true.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Smash gut.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
It's filled with an older crowd, and Angela points out
how fancy this all is. Sean tries to play it
off cool. They both take a sip of water, and
after they are done, two waiters immediately appear to take
the glasses and replace them with new ones.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Then Corey AND's so cute.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Corey and Topanga walk in Corey's asking Topanga why she's
angry with him?

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Was it the fern?

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
Because for the extra two dollars, I'll happily change it
for the fcus. Tapanga tells them it's not about the fern.
She just wants them to get through the evening. The
host greets them, how many years have you two been married?
Now the kids are good? No, Tapanga tells them, we
are not married and we do not have kids. Corey
whispers to Eduardo that Topanga's a little angry at him.
Here's a fiver put an extra shrimp on her cocktail.

(01:13:41):
Corey stops by Sean and Angela's table and pretends like
he had no idea they'd be there. Wow, considering all
the restaurants in town.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
To Pang, it no longer a vegetarian. By the way,
She's just a completely different character. It's totally just meat
eating normal. Like everything about her that was quirky and
interesting in season one is officially dead.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
Yeah gone, Sewn whispers and all the suits, referring to
the fact that Corey's suit exactly matches Sean's. Sean and
Angela are left alone again, and the host appears again
to take their order.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
They haven't touched the patae. Sean admits he doesn't really
know what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Eduardo tells them it's goose liver, which sparks a disgusted
face from both Angela and Sean. Edwardo reminds him he
requested it when he telephoned this afternoon. Sean clarifies, when
I called, did I sound like I had curly hair
and was ninety Eduardo nods, see ninety ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
I think this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
I really think that this is where this is like
where the episode should have. This should be like seeing
three of the episodes, you know, like because there's actual
there's something. There's something cool here about Corey being the
pilot and forcing me to into his version of wooing Angela.
But like instead, like I'm just not quite clear, Like
the conflict is like kind of class based, like that

(01:14:55):
we're in too fancy of a restaurant, but we haven't
established that like the things that we like are really
like Like I just I wanted it to be more
about like, uh, if we knew that Angela liked a
certain type of food and that Sean liked another type
of food, and then they were both trying to be
something for the other that's not quite established enough here.
So I it's a funny scene, but I just don't

(01:15:16):
know why it's happening. And then the resolution feels like,
let's get burgers. I'm like, okay, so the problem was
that we were forced into eating fancy food.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
I just it's a little I think it's exactly what
you were saying before. It's not a problem. It's that
you realize that there are different kinds.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Of love and ry.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Topanga are their own thing, and everybody it's like, you
want what they have, but you're not them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Nobody want.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Right Your version is burgers and Vivaldi and hanging out
at a different place. But so it's like you can't
be them because they're you know, even Topanga doesn't want
this them at this point. So I think it's this
is what happens when you let Corey in the driver's seat,
is well.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
This is what love is. It's being married right away.
It's the I.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Actually really like the bones of the only relationship Angela
and Sean can point to for what it looks like
for a teenage couple to be in a relationship is them,
And I don't really like that. Is that what they
all are, and for them to realize, oh no, we
can set the tone for what our relationship is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
It can It should have been the whole episode instead
of one scene if that is your last story, where
we watch that play out in high jinks and funny
scenes with Corey whispering in my ear and and maybe
even Tapango whispering Angela's ear trying to get it could
have been like a lot of miscommunication and then the
two of us finally being.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Like, no, we're going to do our own and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
If Sarah and nogate advice exactly like that, like something
like that, exactly the same story, except it's a terrible
advice all the way around, because don't we find out
that Angela's parents are divorced as well that her father's
in the military, so they have that going so they
we keep alloding to the fact that we're not ready
for this relationship. We're broken people, but we don't talk

(01:16:57):
about what that means, and we're not engaging with each
other about that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
We're just like the weld. I like it, You like it, right,
I don't know it's together. Yeah, it's underdeveloped.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
I feel like taking this scene is the model and
expanding it in both directions would have been a better
way to like confront the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Completely agree, completely agree. Meanwhile, Corey is staring at Sean
and Angela from across the restaurant. To Pega points out
that he's staring at them more than he's staring at her.

(01:17:31):
He doesn't break his gaze. Look at those two. It's
us twenty years ago. To Pega asks, what is happening
to us? Co port Corey is completely oblivious. He reminds
her they're celebrating another one of their delightful occasions. Tapenga responds,
who talks like that? Meanwhile, Angela asks Sean, you said
you knew me. If you really knew me, why would
you bring me here. Sean admits I have no idea

(01:17:53):
what I'm doing. I don't know how to be myself
around you. I really want you to like me. Angela
assures him, I do like you. If I didn't, I
wouldn't be here. Sean asks why it's so hard. Angela
tells him she's never had a serious relationship either. Every
time she got close to someone, she figured it was
best to get away before they hurt each other. Is
someone going to get hurt here?

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Sean?

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
He earnestly tells her, no, not if we're ourselves. He
calls out for Eduardo, asking him to clear their table
and just bring them a couple of burgers.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
And see, like all of that dialogue is exposition. No,
I think it's I think I don't know what we're
talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
Like we're just established my character to say what I
would like.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Or not like right and so, and we're not being specific.
We're just pope and love and me and want. And
it's like it's like song lyrics as opposed to like
very like sharp, like the thing you're doing right now
you can take, you know, I don't know. It just
feels like I don't know. I feel so like I.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
Feel like for Sean, Angela is intuitive enough to know
that the Sean she had started falling for is is
no longer this Sean, and she recognizes, why are you you?
You said you knew me, and yet now you're doing
things that had this been the way we started our relationship,
I wouldn't have necessarily liked this. So what's going on?

(01:19:09):
And Sean saying, listen, I really like you. I'm I'm
doing things because I'm trying hard, and that to me
doesn't feel like X. I mean, I guess it is exposition,
but the audience is aware that you're not being yourself either,
and so we're all wondering why, why is this? Why
is this so hard? Which I like that you directly

(01:19:31):
ask why now that it matters. Am I having a
hard time being my real self? So that for me,
this scene like this to me realized I wanted a
whole episode about this scene.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Yes, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Just think the actual like, we we have not covered
details between our characters, so we have not said like
what we do imagine our lives would be, because we
have the Vivaldi and Shakespeare, but we haven't seen the
like what do you like to wear?

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
What do you like to eat?

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
And then to see that in conflict with this, so
we're just expressing this makes me uncomfortable in abstract terms,
and so it stays abstract. And that's what, to me
is the definition of like. I think it's more.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I think it ends the same way where you guys
are now figuring out what it's going to be, the
same way you figured out this restaurant isn't for us.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
You figured out you didn't want to eat this food.
It's like we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
No, you don't know yet, and it's this is just
the start of we know we don't want that. We
know we're not them, and we don't want we don't
want this restaurant. But we'll figure out whatever comes next.
As long as we're ourselves, we'll figure it out, I think,
is what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Yeah, so sentiment.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
Eduardo claps his hands together. But Relli's is a place
where all your dreams come true to burgers. Angela ads
and fries. Sean chimes in, oh yeah, get some ketchup too.
Sean asks if he can take his tie off, and
Angela says yes, please never wear.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
A tie again. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
She questions why he has it anyway, it's certainly not his.
Sean confesses, I'm not one to give up any names.
But Corey, all of this was Corey. He's a good guy.
He just wants us to have what he and to
Panga have. And then we cut back to Tapanga, who
is shouting at Corey, I don't want to put the
sweet and low in my purse. Corey's worried she's going
to get them in trouble at their place. Topanga doesn't
want this to be their place. Corey says she's ruining

(01:21:12):
their anniversary, but she doesn't even know what anniversary. This
is the first time we kissed, the first time we met.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
What what is it?

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
Corey responds, it's the anniversary of the first time we
hated Barelli's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
How could you forget? I love that?

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
Tapanga is furious because I hate Barelli's. I am fifty
years away from going to Barelli's. Can't we just go
downtown and grab a pretzel from a cart? Corey shouts back,
I'm not making you happy. Go you think you're gonna
find someone else at your age? Tapega looks like she's
about to strangle him. Eduardo steps in, begging Tapanga to
keep her voice down. She growls at him in response,

(01:21:47):
and he says thank you so much before running away.
Angela and Sean are watching, and Angela confesses this is
what scares me. You get close to someone and you
end up hating each other. Shawn assures her there is
nothing to be scared of. When two people are truly
in love, there is no way they can end up
hating each other. Right on time, we cut back to Tipega.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Who's murder each other, which happens all all this. It's funny.
I thought the same people love each other. It's actually
the closest to hating each other because you have so
much at stake. Yes, yeah, people, you're most like optimistic

(01:22:26):
and uh yeah, backwards lining in my.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
Right on time. We cut back to Tapega, who's still
yelling at Corey. Corey tries to growl back in response,
but it doesn't work. It's tepid at best. To Pega laughs,
his attempt at growl was pathetic. Corey smiles, well, I
could never really get mad at you. Tapega tells him
she just doesn't want to celebrate any more occasions. Corey
was only doing it because he thought that's what she
wanted to Penga says she just wants to be seventeen,

(01:22:51):
and Corey happily agrees. Then he pushes everything off their
table and Eduardo lets out a little shriek. He grabs Corey,
grabs Tapanga, and layser down on the table to get
hat and heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
It's very unsanitary in a restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Angela watches this unfold and tells Sean, I want what
they have, but she leans in and kisses him, and
we freeze frame on our new couple staring into each
other's eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Sean Angelo, I think they were talking about the food
whatever they ordered that they have.

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
Yeah, a commercial back in the day, what's that Sally
versus a what is that movie?

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Where when Sally met Harrick? And then we're in the
guy's apartment.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
Jack is trailing a line of paper towels behind him
as he points out to Eric that it's Thanksgiving and
all they have is an Easter basket and Santa Claus.
Eric says, my dad's gonna kill you. But then Eric
comes up with a brilliant plan. He spends a few
nights in the a few nights in the hospital, and
they'll forget the whole thing. He tells Jack to get him,
bust him in the nose, cracker rib, whatever it'll take.
Jack shures him that's a stupid idea. Eric agrees it'll

(01:24:00):
be better for him to hit Jack. He gets in
a fighting stance fac or gut just in time. They
hear someone pounding at the door. Eric yells just a
second and apologizes to Jack, getting back in position to
punch him. Jack yells for the people to come in,
and it's the entire family plus some. They've brought the
Thanksgiving dinner to them. They never believed that the guys
could pull it off. Morgan ads, you can't even make toast.

(01:24:21):
Amy asks her son if he at least has some
clean dishes, and Eric blurts out no, no, he need's
preparing to carve the bird, and asks everybody wants a
dark meat, right, and again everyone loudly shouts no.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
These are my least favorite moments when the entire cast
has to say stuff at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
I more than what bothered me is why are we
acting like the white meat part of turkey is the
good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
It's like the worst.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
It's the worst. Of course, yes, we shouldn't want the
dork meat.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
White meat's good too. I like them both. It's the
combo of the two with everything that's but if you
eat the white meat, you're eating the majority of the turkey.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
The turkey yes, yeah, yeah, okay to Benga says it's
so nice for them to all be together on Thanksgiving,
Corey wants to tell her something. Then he leans in
and starts to make out with her in front of everyone,
with weird blocking in the In the apartment, Sean and
Angela watch on and Angela says, I'm so glad I'm
here Sean. Sean holds out his hand for her to

(01:25:19):
grab and then leads her into the apartment. Before we
sit down, I'd like to say thanks for all the
good things that have happened to us. He looks at
Angela and me. Then the whole group yells to one another,
happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Me, but we wait for Rusty to start it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
He like looks around and nobody's starting, so he's like
happy and we're like happy thanks kidding the worst.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Actually thought we were almost turning to camera Thanksgiving. Yes,
I was waiting for us because that's literally what it
is like. And now the chorus break down the song.
I really thought we were like a Greek chorus. And
that's the story of.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
What is pulling on the should have gone back to
the old the holiday episodes where we set up a
camera or like, do you know some reason, because why
is Sean making a speech as the typical, as the
non member of the family. It's really invite.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
Me to invite a girl to the Thanksgiving, which I love.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
But why I don't know. It's like it's just such
a bizarre, forced little like tag. It doesn't it doesn't
work for me.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
But well, Trina, welcome officially to season five.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
Yeah, thank you, thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
Man oh man, we have so loved having you. It
will not be the last time we will have you back,
for sure. We we are trying, we are not jumping ahead,
so we don't exactly know what's coming up when it
comes up, but we look forward to having you back again,
So please join us another time. We thank you so
much for spending your time with us this morning. As
always a pleasure to see you. Continued health for you

(01:26:58):
and Marcello. And yeah, we love you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:27:02):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. We love you guys too. It's
so good to see you all. Good to see writer.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
I'm up at my childhood house. So yeah, that was
so fun.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
It's it is such a shame that the part two
doesn't quite match up to the brilliant.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Stuff on to talk about part one one. I know
I still liked it though.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Because I liked I don't know, I'm already rooting for
the couple, and so I did. If you watch it
all as one's honestly, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Think I think if I had done it that way,
I probably wouldn't have been as critical because it's like, oh,
this is so nice.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
I want this to happen, and then it does. But
Washing has its own episode you're just getting and then
it does. It's sort of like, oh, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
But you're right as one. I still I still like
it me too. So thank you for listening to this
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