An ongoing conversation about wellness from two obsessive friends. Jacqueline Novak and Kate Berlant have been inviting eavesdroppers into their conversations since 2020, and now their award-winning podcast returns. New episodes every Tuesday. Listen ad-free by becoming a premium Hag.
Lost in the curtain and looking up rugs. This week, a manifested paediatrician, the willingness to sing, and a foretold pilgrimage. Kate shares her true feelings about choreography, while Jacqueline engages in extreme massaging of the neck. Self-containment and ghosting the ghost tour. If that’s not Gaia, what is? An update on Kate's nightstands and Jacqueline’s scrolling relationship. Black pointy boots and babies at Shir...
The revolution will be nightstand. Kate's long-awaited allergy test comes back and Jacqueline sifts through the confounding results. Mismatched woods or matching? Grohl Bowls and a minimum age for doctors. A thorough investigation of nightstands and the appropriate price to pay for them. Facebook Marketplace and a reduction in narrative are prescribed. Kate lists all that lies beside her bed. Mr. Baby and Instagram soup. J...
It’s the first episode since reclamation. Poog is back, this time as an independent podcast. The spirit of sovereignty finds Jacqueline and Kate levitating in the studio, face to face. It’s sacred phones only, it’s gm lowercase only. Jacqueline finds herself all bags, no drink in hand, and 5 hotels deep. On New York time, Kate did the unthinkable. A transatlantic state of focus, old nudes, and let me guess — a fusion flow?...
It’s almost eerie what you can act yourself into. Jacqueline is sourcing Christmas for comfort and Kate is experimenting with corkage fees. An update on the cruel barista drives Kate and Jacqueline to revisit role-play, as eavesdroppers weigh in. A 4pm ‘Matcha & Myss’ is considered and the healing archetype of Larry David is called upon. Avoidance drives Kate to act out purchasing a pie, as a heart is carved into the a...
What am I bringing back out of the trash? Jacqueline frees Kate from ADHD paralysis, as countless hacks are shared. A hamper in every room! Running down the clock and days spent in parking lots. A leaning tower of pants and folding within reason. Revisiting Kate’s ‘bad phone’ — or ‘correspondence’ — system. DIY desk-making has always been huge for Jacqueline. Chugging water with a hand up in the air: morning module!
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This week, we’re taking free feeders behind the paywall, and over to Paris. Jacqueline and Kate found themselves in the city of love at the same time, last spring… and it was incredible. This episode was heard first by our Premium Subscribers, as part of the monthly bonus recordings Kate and Jacqueline record for them. If you want to get monthly bonus episodes along with other perks, head over to http://berlantnovak.superc...
In this special recording from the Berlant & Novak vault, Kate suffers chimney sweep-induced TMJ flare. What to do when the line goes dead and the mailbox is full? It’s a dirty job. A jaw dislodged and the practice of refunding, examined. Free soot-foot photos, a corner cobweb, and a rage that shakes. Cleaner Gary didn’t lie: soot is the most difficult thing to get out. Jacqueline’s view on bad reviews is unveiled. The...
Is it a three or four-broom hotel? Memories of Kate’s first Ritz and the dread of lobby coffee. Hags are always welcome at Jacqueline's Copper Inn. Is that a BJ stain on the performance velvet couch? A tough Ludlow and what to do when the cleaner walks in on you naked. Kate makes a call to the front desk after a disturbing night in Bend, Oregon… He’s God fearin’.
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Mister Cabbage, it’s me. Jacqueline’s honest answer elicits laughter from a school psychologist & an attic tutor rewards Kate with candy. Childhood photos and the formative experience of shopping with a peer. Student council and film club. Framing a child? When Jacqueline was a candle maker and Kate went to The Price Is Right. The 13-year-old period fear that still lingers, and the life phases reviewed.
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Let’s start with the goal, right? Eclipse season looms large, as Kate and Jacqueline meet eyes under the studio lights. A search for meaning around some light symptoms inspires a Novak analysis. Caroline Myss graces Hag ears as Jacqueline bemoans Kate not submitting to this recommendation earlier. The ego wants to call even when there is no question. Male healers are remembered for their unorthodox tools and middling resul...
It’s never personal, except for when it is. In studio this week, where Jacqueline’s headache is quelled with Kate’s purse pills. At hag homes, small rooms get big beds. Kate’s ass is on a pillow and her legs are against the wall. Hags must beware a tight neck. When the barista harbors a personal grudge and top hats stay hidden. Complementary schismogenesis means the martini tastes better if it was made just for you? Read a...
Glory when someone submits to your recommendation. Jacqueline and Kate revisit the hardest acting challenge: surprise. The Hags’ second ever guest breaks in unexpectedly much like a tiger into a church, and childhood memories of vomit re-examined. Jacqueline was cabinet maker before she was ever a standup comedian. And Uncle Fester meant more than you know to Kate. Sometimes the art is too good and other times civic rage d...
Kate and Jacqueline analyze what made a man on Twitter say such a nasty thing. The hags reflect on the indecency of Pop Crave and the courage it takes to feel ugly next to beautiful women. Jacqueline recounts interactions with trolls and Kate considers starting a Serial-esque podcast to get closure. Some of these men have dogs — daughters, even. Ultimately, this is the abstraction of violence — but the Hags wonder whether ...
Standing by with joy in their hearts, a mosquito enters the frame. At the beach, Jacqueline and Kate expanded their fields before a setting sun. Reckoning with pendulums, the hags consider the one-song party, the subjectivity formation of teen shopping, and the dangerous effects of music. A cat in the home means new patent possibilities from Jacqueline. Condoms for your ear, analog visors, and sun hats.
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A theme of unconscious irritation suggests the podcast is entering its red period with Idiopathic Rosacea and Iatrogenic Eustachian Tube Dysfunction as the new hosts. Kate texts her doctor throughout the episode. Jacqueline’s secret merchandizing history reveals she’d rather be in Quadrant 2. One must live with some altitudinous awareness. Mel Brooks, Teresa of Avila, Caroline Myss, and Diana Vreeland.
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Kate had a disgusting chicory latte, her back bumper is fucked, and she is in a horrible mood. Jacqueline, buoyed by the bounty of her tech gears smells a classic episode brewing. A live product inventory unfolds and Kate’s mood lends itself to merciless clutter purging. None of us should take her mood personally. Repurposing old iphones, a turtle conservatory, and a highly scented serum that’s 100% full.
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The hags are back on seasonally appropriate fixations, gifting the eavesdroppers a real ear-load. Springform pans, relinquished and reacquired. Whisperings of a tart, darting and diagonaling in the market. A mother wakes in the night to witness a cake’s density. The cornerstone is the cornerstone. Cord inventory, face-first casting, a shoe garage. What is it to monger?
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At the dawn of the new year, Christmas needs unpacking. Jacqueline's voice breaks in elf mode and Kate secures a coveted table. Armed with two pens and a watercolor set, ritual pulls them in. Boo the Cat announces himself and the tiger breaks in, starving for a moment. A storage unit gets unlocked as liquid code unfolds. A rare sighting of a bride at ease. Never so far from Paris as the moment she lands. Please don’t assu...
Jacqueline Novak and Kate Berlant celebrate the arrival of 2026 with a heartfelt toast to their hag listeners. A somatic release, an aura cleanse, and a margarita.
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What a year it was. Thank you for being hags. It's just the beginning!
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As the New Year draws close, the veil is thin. Lost in parking structures, falling to pieces in Lowes, an unusual approach to calling on a handyman almost doesn't work. King sized bed frames forthcoming, questions of nightstands appear. To resent, to resist, to long for clean Gwyneth-mother-hands. Christmas happened. The hags read aloud an intimate and high stakes text thread. When Kate is disappointed, Jacqueline permits ...
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