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We're glad you've joined us for today's program. Brave is
the Bible teaching ministry of Jeff Swarzentrag, Senior Pastor of
Brave Church in Denver, Colorado. Brave exists to challenge spirit
filled warriors for courageous kingdom advancement. Today, I'm Brave. Pastor
Jeff concludes his message God's Plan for Singles, Maximizing your
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Faithfulness from the series Family Fortified, and reveals that whether
single or married, God is leading you. The question is
are you willing to follow? Pastor Jeff will get started
in just a moment, but first we want to tell
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today's program.
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One other guy that I know that has three doctorate degrees,
one in theology, one in medicine, and one as a
research degree, and he practices medicine and teaches in a
theological seminary and does different things, and he works about
fourteen hours a day and travels all over the country,
and to him, it feels like a burden to get married.
And I believe those two guys, and they're not around
whining and complaining where's my wife? But those are the
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two guys I met. Most guys I meet are like, dude,
I want to get married. I want to get married.
And here's how you know, because when we do premial
counseling Kim and I have done primarial counseling.
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We'll ask me, like, the week before the wedding, what
are you looking forward to? And the bride's like the
companionship and just being together and the wedding day and
it's gonna be so fun.
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And then we look at the husband like what are
you looking forward to? He starts blushing, Like, can I
tell you the truth. I'm moving forward to the wedding night. Bro, Like,
That's what I'm looking forward to. And there's nothing wrong
with that because that's what got created. But here's the fact.
You don't get a better marriage by practicing a lot
of dating. You're better off if you've never dated and
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you meet one and you just go make a work.
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Amen. That's point one, all right?
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We'll keep flying through this. Trust God's leading. Second is this,
trust God's presence. Trust God's presence. When we trust is leading,
we're hearing this. The Lord is the one who goes
ahead of you. Here's his presence. He will be with you.
He's gonna be with you. I mean the Old Testament,
when you see that God had his hand on somebody,
it says this, the Lord was with him. The Lord
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was with him. The Lord was with you. Want the
Lord's presence with you. And here's the reality. If you're
born again through repentance and faith, the spirit of God
in dwells you and everywhere you go, that's where you
take God. He goes on every single date with you.
He goes in the back seat of every single car
with you. He goes down to the basement when you
say we're just gonna watch a movie with you, I
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mean he goes everywhere with you. You're never alone. Fear not,
for I will. If you've called you by name your mind,
I'm there. And here's what I tell you. You need
to experience God's presence as a single because if you
don't experience God's presence as a single, you'll never experience
his presence as a married person God wants you to experience,
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and me say, well, how do I do that?
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Here's what I would say.
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Find a church that's a Bible believing Christ exalting church.
Find a place to serve in that church. Build friendships
in the church. Learn how to share the Gospel through
the church. Go all in with Jesus in the church.
Don't just show up and be like, wonder if there's
any hot girls of that church. Don't do that, right,
go all in with Jesus and go all in with
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his mission for what he wants you to do, so
you know exactly what God's.
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Called you to as a single.
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We got too many confused singles that don't even know
why they're placed on planet Earth. That then they want
to get married to somebody else that doesn't know why
their own planet Earth. And because neither of them have
a vision for their life, they get married and it's
really really hard. So if you think you're lonely, now
get married. You can see how lonely marriage really feels.
All right, if you're an unsatisfied victim, now you're probably
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one of the most unattractive singles.
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That there is in the world.
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Don't don't play the victim of I don't know what
I'm gonna do, and I wish I were married and
all that kind of stuff.
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Just pray, pray, pray period.
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Just seek his face, experience his presence, fall more in
love with Jesus all the time. And while you're single,
use this time for three things. This is what you
can do to maximize your time with the Lord. Okay,
use this time to live on mission. Live on mission,
like go all in with Jesus. If you get an
opportunity to do a mission trip. Do a mission trip. You
get opportunity to share the gospel in the city. Go
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share the gospel in the city. You get the opportunity
to witness to someone in your neighborhood. Witnesses someone in
your neighborhood. You got oportunity bring people over your house,
bring people over your house, like go all in with Jesus.
Like seek him and say where do you want me
to serve? I got all this time, I got all
this energy, Like.
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What do you want me to do? And where do
you want me to go?
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I'll give you everything I have. Lord is a single
and that's that's what I want. So go all in
in the mission, and the mission is to honor him,
serve him, share the gospel, and build others up. And
there's myriads of opportunity in every bible believing Christ's exalting church,
there's certainly myriads of opportunity to hear it. Brave Like,
I want to get involved, I don't know how. Come
talk to a pastor. We'll plug you in this week. Well,
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we'll help you discover your unique abilities and niaque gifts,
that unique gifts that God's given you and get you
serving so that you're satisfied. So that's number one. Use
this time to go all in and live on mission.
Number two, use this time to discover your ministry. What's
unique about you? How are you going to live out
your Kingdom calling? Is it going to be in vocational ministry?
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Is it going to be as a doctor, a teacher,
a nurse.
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A coach? Like? What are you wanting to do?
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And men, especially if you don't know that, stop dating
because if you don't know what you're doing. Guys and
you're dating, the only reason you're dating is to put
your eyes on somebody else rather than to keep your
eyes on Jesus. And ladies, don't go after a guy
that doesn't know where he's going. You'll be miserable when
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you ask a guy, where are you gonna be in
five years? Where are gonna be in ten years?
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I don't know.
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Maybe he's still at my parents' house that you don't
want to marry that guy. Have him know where he's
gonna go. Is he what's he doing? What's his goals?
What's his passion, what's his track record, what's his trajectory,
what's his unique gift?
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Why is he on the earth.
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He should be able to articulate all those things to you,
and don't follow somebody that's not going anywhere.
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Amen. So discover your unique.
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Ability, your unique ministry, the way God's wired you, and
then use this time to pray for your mate. Ask
God to bring you somebody that's going in the direction
that you're going. Because if you're both doing that, there's
a guy that's all in with Jesus and he knows
who he is, and there's a gal that's all in
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with Jesus and.
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She knows who she is.
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God will bring you alongside it just the right time.
Be like, ah, we fit, let's go. That's what God does.
God brings a woman to the man. He always does that.
Like I'm forty, he hasn't done that for me. Trust
the Lord's leading, and trust the Lord's timing, and trust
the Lord's presence. And if you're satisfied with the things
of God and you're contenting him, he may just surprise
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you at just the right time. I find that as
I walk with the Lord. It's never in my timing,
it's never my way.
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I got married. I met my wife at the age
of thirty two.
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If somebody would have told me You're gonna get married
at thirty four when I was a teenager, I would
have cried. But upon hindsight, what I realize is sometimes
when the Lord takes time to give you what you've
been praying for, it's.
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Because he's building things inside of you to make him better.
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When Elizabeth was praying for a son and she could
not get pregnant, she couldn't get pregnant, she couldn't get pregnant,
she couldn't get pregnant. When she finally got pregnant, she
gave birth to the forerunner, John.
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The Baptist of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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In his ministry when Hannah was weeping tears, and first
Samuel won because she couldn't get pregnant. She couldn't get pregnant,
she couldn't get pregnant. When she did, she gave birth
to the first prophet of the entire nation, Samuel. When
God takes his time, it's because he's building things in
your life. Looking back on my life, had I been
married ten years earlier, I would not have been involved
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in ministry to the same degree that I was. There's
no way I would have gone and got the education
that I did because I was going to school seven
or eight hours a day and serving the Lord full
time in ministry. I wouldn't have had time for a wife.
When thinking about it that way at the time, and
just being totally candid with you, there were some things
that the Lord needed to redeem in my life over
the years because I didn't live this teaching nor hear
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this teaching when I was growing up, and He needed
to redeem some areas before I could meet the right person.
And I poured into him and I was satisfied in him,
and when I was there was my wife. And I
didn't even ask for it. So don't be worried about
the timing of when things happen. Trust God's presence in
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your life. Seek his face, come to the prayer meetings, journal,
go after God, experience him personally, publicly, privately, trust his presence.
Number three is this, can you please for the sake
of the Lord Jesus Christ. Trust God's ability. Trust his ability.
The Lord is the one who goes ahead of you.
He will lead you, he will be with you. That's
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his presence. What does it say about God? He will
not fail you or forsake you. Do you believe God's ability?
He won't fail you or for saying you? He's strong,
He's all powerful. He created the world in six literal days.
He flooded the entire globe while saving eight people. He
gave his only begotten son as incarnate flesh into a
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teenage girl who gave birth to the Savior of the world,
who said, for with my God, nothing will be impossible.
Stop believing the lie he cannot bring you a mate.
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the series Family Fortified, revealing that whether single or married,
God is leading you. The question is are you willing
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from God's word.
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He won't failure for saying you He's strong, He's all powerful.
He created the world in six literal days. He flooded
the entire globe while saving eight people. He gave his
only begotten son as incarnate flesh into a teenage girl
who gave birth to the savior of the world, who said,
for with my God, nothing.
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Will be impossible.
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Stop believing the lie he cannot bring you a mate.
When God created Eve from Adam's rib, he brought her
the same day when Isaac met Rebecca, he married her
the same day.
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I mean, think about this.
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If God had the ability and strength to lead Noah
to build an arc to save humanity.
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If he could lead Moses back to Israel to save Egypt.
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If he could use David to slay Elias or Elijah
to destroy the prophets of Bail, or Joseph and married
to raise the Sun the Lord Jesus Christ, or Paul
to share the Gospel around the world.
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Do you think it's possible he could bring you a mate?
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I mean, we read these stories like, our God's possible.
Our God's incredible. Our God can do all things. Our
God can do far more abundantly than all that.
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We ask her. Think according to his Lauria's power, that's
to work within me. Except he can't bring me a mate.
That is so beyond his ability level. Are you kidding
me right now?
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I mean sometimes I wish I could do an exchange
program after church and instead of doing an.
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Altar call for prayer, we just brought all the singles
up and say, who do you like? We'll have the.
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Wedding now, we'll put it online, your parents can watch
and we'll celebrate with you.
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Right.
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We spend way too much time focusing on the wedding
day and way less time focusing on being the right
person when we get married and I'm not downplaying a
special wedding day. I still remember mine. They're special. There's
something about getting a photographer, getting a videographer, and all
those things.
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There's something special about dressing up. I get all that.
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But what's more important than that is how you spiritually
prepared for the relationship you're gonna have for the rest
of your life. And if the only teaching you've ever
got is don't have sex and marry a Christian, you're
grossly impoverished for what you're about ready to experience. God
wants you to spend time on you, building you, letting
God build you so you know who you are. Because
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marriage will have enough trouble of its own. Amen, I
just will. But when you seek the face of the
Lord and you go after him, God has the ability
to bring the right person at the right time. He
can do it. Stop acting like a victim. Just just
trust him.
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He's got you. He's got you. Do you trust his
ability today?
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Because even as I'm talking, I know the enemy is
talking to somebody. You're like, well, he hasn't done it yet.
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It's not like he sees you. I mean, look at you.
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You've been faithful all these years, and so you know
there's a teenager who got married the other day and
you're forty. He didn't love you, Yes he does, Yes,
he does. And he sees your faithfulness and he knows
what you're doing, and he believes in what you're doing.
So honor him and believe that God has the ability.
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He's not failing you. He will not fail you, he
will not forsake you.
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There's not one person that's going to get to heaven
who's lived obediently to Christ, who said, you called me
to get married, and you never brought me anybody.
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There's nobody in heaven complaining to God. Do you know
that nobody's there complaining about what he didn't do.
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Everybody's there worshiping him for doing far more abundantly than
anything that we ever deserved.
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Amen.
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And if you're grateful as a single and you bring
that into your marriage, and it will.
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Help your marriage to sizzle. Amen. And that's what He
would have for you. And let me give you this
final one. Let me give you this final one, and
I trust me, I get all this. I remember being
about thirty years old.
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I was officiating a wedding of a couple of kids
in my youth group. The guy was nineteen, the guy
was twenty three, and I'm officiating him. By the way,
to officiate a wedding ceremony is one of the easiest
things to do. You basically read vows and you go
back and forth. It's not very hard to do. And
I'm going through the routine. But the whole time I'm standing.
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There, I'm having this out of body experience with God.
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Like they're nineteen and twenty three. I've gone to seminary,
I've served as a pastor. I'm doing it right. Where's
my wife?
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Do you take this woman to be?
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You know? I mean, that's what was going on. And
it's okay to be fro. It's okay to pour out
your heart to God. And it's okay to say, Lord,
is there anything in me that needs to change?
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Is there anything to me you're building? Lord?
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It's frustrating to me because I really desire to be married,
That's what I want.
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What am I doing wrong? Let the Lord speak to you,
but trust him.
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He has the ability to change things and change things
in your life quickly, amen, and let me give you
this final one. If you're going to trust God's leading
and his presence and his ability. Then do this final one.
Trust God's counsel. Trust God's counsel. The Lord is the
one who goes ahead of you. He'll be with you.
He will not fail or forsake you. Do not fear
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or be dismayed. Do not fear or be dismayed. I've
talked to a lot of people, a lot of singles
this week, asking them what shaul I talk about, and
some have told me I'm just afraid to get married.
I've seen a lot of marriages, even among Christians. It's hard.
How do I know I picked the right one? How
do I know? There's always a step of faith and
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going forward. Amen, there's always a wondering. But don't be
afraid that this may not work out. I mean, if
you're doing the right things, if you're being the right person,
if you're bringing along a counsel of people that love
the Lord that you're willing to let speak into your life.
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And by the way, you should do that.
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I mean Proper chapter fifteen, verse twenty two says it
in this way. Proper Chapter fifteen, verse twenty two says
it like this. It says, without consultation, plans that are frustrated,
but with many counselors.
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They succeed.
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I mean, there's godly Christian people in your life. Talk
to them, say what do you think about this person
that I'm dating? Could you spend some time with them
and give me your insight because I'd really like to
hear from you.
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Now that's not a.
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Fail safe way, but it also helps because sometimes people
can meet back. You need to stop this one right now.
There's no way. And by the way, here's what I
would say. Don't marry potential. Please, don't marry potential. Here's
the lie before you get married. Once you get married,
he'll change. Once you get married, she'll change. You know
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what the lie is after you get married. There ain't
no way he's gonna change. There's no way she's gonna
change both her lies. But don't marry potential. Well he
comes to church?
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Did he lead you? There? Was he already attending before
you came?
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Who are the people in his life that he can
take you to that have been as spiritual mentors that
can talk about his character? Has she been walking with
the Lord? Has she been a servant? How long has
she been a servant? When did she come to No Christ?
What's her testimony? What do other women.
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Say about her?
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What do her parents say about I mean, what's the
character of this person?
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Because infatuation causes blindness.
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Oh yeah, you don't know, But I mean if she
was around me, I know I can change her. Don't
marry somebody you can fix. Don't be a fixer just
being candid. Don't be a fixer. I remember when I
started dating my wife. It was hard because I had
been in relationships where I was the fixer. I didn't
know I was the fixer, but I the fixer. I
was like, no, you can do this and we can
get there. That was the role I played. I met
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my wife. She didn't need me, Like, well, what's my
role If you don't need me, it was you need
to lead for Christ. That's what I need you to do.
I got this right, and the same is true for
a woman.
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You don't.
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You don't need to drag your guy to church or
tell him to get involved in the cadre or tell
him to get involved in Oh he's doing.
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What I want him to do.
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If he's only doing it because you're saying it. After
you get married, he won't do it anymore. I mean,
you got to see the character. But don't be afraid.
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And the word dismayed, it doesn't it's a stronger word
even than fear.
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It means terror. Don't be afraid, don't be dismayed. I
mean some of you are so dismayed, like God could
never fix this. I wish I would have heard this
when I was twelve. I wish I would have gone
after the Lord. I've messed this thing up. God can
meet you right where you are today, give you his grace,
redeem you from the inside out, make you fresh and clean,
and take you on a new path.
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Amen. That's what our God can do.
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So men, when you're looking for a wife, look for
a woman that's a servant. Look for somebody that's been
serving other people already. Look for a woman with great character.
Look for a woman that knows the Lord, that loves
the Lord. You can't fake that. Women, Look for a
man that's a hard worker, works, it's godly, it's got character,
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does the right thing.
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What he says is what he means. What he says
is what he does.
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Do that I mean, And the reality is, I mean
you'll never You'll never find a perfect person. You need
to know that you'll never find a perfect person. I
tell my kids all the time they'll never find a
perfect mate. I mean, Jesus is already ascended to heaven
and I already married your mother, so you're not going
to find perfection.
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Amen. I thought that was good. But what you can
do is you can be your best.
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I know of a story of a gal that was
thirty ish was serving in a church and went to
talk to an older man was about thirty years her senior,
who was a godly man in the church, and she said,
you know, I'm frustrated that I'm not married. Would you
be willing to speak into my life about these things?
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And he asked the question, He's like, could I be
candid with you? She said yes. He's like, okay, if
I can be candid, here's what I would tell you,
because I love you enough to tell you this, but.
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I'm just being honest.
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For you to be your best, you should probably lose
a little weight, and you probably want to wear a
little bit of makeup, and you want to dress a
little bit different. And he goes, I don't mean to
be harsh, but I'm just telling you the truth that
guys are visual, and you have a great heart, and
you have a great personality, but you know what that
would be helpful to you. She took his advice and
she was married within a year. Now here's what I'm
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not trying to say. I'm not trying to say you
need to have two percent body fat. I'm not trying
to say you need to if you're a guy, you
need to be totally. But that's not what I'm saying.
I'm like, can you take care of yourself? Do you
have good personal hygiene? Do you take care of your finances?
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Can? Can you be the best version of you? Right?
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That's what I'm saying because sometimes we wonder, well, why
why is this not happening?
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But we're not really taking care of ourselves.
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We're not really focused on being our best for somebody else.
We were thinking that they need to be their best
for me, but I don't need to be my best
for them. And while you're a single, it gives you
the opportunity to say, God, is there anything in my
life that maybe I.
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Could change or maybe I could be better? Does that
make sense?
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So take God's counsel, but take the counsel of other
people that love you.
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Because I really believe with my whole heart.
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That God loves families, that God loves marriage, that God
loves children. And if there's a burden in your heart
that says that's what I want, there's something that God's
still doing in your heart that he either needs to
put to bed or there's something he's trying to grow
you in to bring you together and singles just so
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you know you can talk to some of your pastors.
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There's some events we're gonna put together. They're not hyper
spiritual events.
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It's just to get you together with other godly Christian
people to brave so that you can mingle and meet,
because that's important.
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And what better place to do it than in church.
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What better place to meet your spouse than in church,
rather than at a bar when everybody's out getting drunk
or doing drugs or whatever.
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Meet him here.
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Meet somebody that's serving full time with the Lord. There's
a lot of people here you haven't met. I promise
you that Kim and I talk to people after every
single service. Pray for me, Pray for me, Pray for me.
I want to get married. Pray for me I want
to get married. Praying for you. Trusting God for you.
We trust his leading, we trust his ability, We trust
his presence, and we trust his counsel. And so here's
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what I'd say to you. And let's say this to
you as a married person. I also specifically say it
to you as a single person. You want the best
for your future. Go all in with Jesus, All in
with Jesus. I remember thinking when God was calling me
the ministry. If I go all in with Jesus and
I become a pastor, and I do, it's gonna limit
my pool. Friends, you want God to limit your pool,
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Go all in with Jesus. He's got your best. He
designed you, he knows you. And if you're single now,
or you're single five years from now, or you're single
fifteen years from now, singleness is not a curse. It's
not a victimization. It's what God has in you.
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Now.
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As I speak this message today, I'm a married man. Well,
I always be. I will be till death do we part.
But if my wife precedes me in death, I'll be
single again at some point in time. If I precede
my wife and death, she'll be single at some point
in time. Right, And she's watched the notebook. She hopes
we go together in the same bed, holding hands right, but.
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And maybe we will. That'd be beautiful baby if we did that.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But at the end of the day, hey, this would
be true to me or true of my wife if
one of us precedes the other one in death.
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And if my wife leaves. While I would grieve greatly.
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It doesn't make me less than I'm still a child
of the Most High God.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Thanks for listening to Brave. That was Pastor Jeff with
his message God's Plan for singles Maximizing your faithfulness from
the series Family Fortified, revealing that whether you're single or married,
God is leading you.
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The question is are you willing to follow?
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