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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hello, and welcome to Nourish Your Biblical Roots special Edition.
I'm Bishop Paulaere, Chairman of the Board of Directors for
the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Now I'll be
your host for today's podcast. We're broadcasting live from NRB,
the National Religious Broadcasters Convention, and during our time here,
(00:28):
we'll be talking with special guests on a variety of subjects,
especially as they relate to Israel, to the current situation there,
and the work of the Fellowship Today. I am excited
to be able to share with you moments with Christian musician,
artist writer Ribert Rambo. I want to say it again,
(00:52):
Riba Rambo, because this name is hallowed in my heart,
and growing up from her beginnings as the teenage singer
for her family's beloved gospel group, the Rambos, to a
long career serving the Lord with the songs she writes
and sings, Riba has not only ministered to generations of
(01:13):
people of faith, but has always been a brave and
a trailblazing artist.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I could contend you're.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Blessed and highly favored.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I could continue mentioning the fact that she is enshrined.
What a word She's enshrined in the Gospel Music Hall
of Fame, or has written and recorded dozens of songs
that are still beloved today. But I will let Riba
tell all of that and more. I'm trying to read this,
but what I'm thinking about is sitting in a dorm room,
(01:49):
probably about seventy seven, when your solo.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Album came out, Lady and Man.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It was so radical, it was pivotal, it was consequential.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And what was the song from Wizard of Ours?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think the Land of Uz and O yes, yes, yes,
and we went into somewhere of the rainbow.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Somewhere it was.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It had not been done, and especially you know you
play it now and say, oh, that's really very nice.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Put it in context of the times and the genre
the culture of music. Then it was just holy.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well. There were radio stations bishop that actually had Reba
record burning parties because they wanted me to stay just
a part of the rambows.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Which I loved that, oh absolutely.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But there was just more. There was another layer, another chapter.
But it was funny how some of the people responded.
But one thing that was such a blessing. That was
the largest selling Christian record that year, nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I think I was right well about that.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, it was incredible, And of course there's no way
anybody can say Rambo without thinking heritage and history and
longevity and your mother's writing, which my favorite song she
ever did with the perfect Rose, Oh, that song, it's
just well, she was.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Not only a poet, but she was also a great communicator.
And I've seen her do that song with a fresh
rose in her hand, and when it says it was
crushed and bruised, I've watched that rose get crushed, and
there's a video somewhere of her doing that, crushing the rose,
and then when she opens up her hand it's perfect again.
(03:33):
Oh my, Yeah, she had a lot of miraculous things
happened while she was singing that song. A lot of
miracles happened when she was singing that song.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well, you know, talk to me about what it's like
as we're sitting here at this table with the International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews, and it was founded by
an Orthodox rabbi forty years ago and a blessed memory
left this world too soon, but his daughter then stepped up,
stepped in, and as we would say, not only filled
(04:04):
their shoes, filled his shoes, but expanded them and stretched them, as.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You have done in the life of your own parents.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
What's it like to walk every day in such I
hate to use the word fame, but people know who
you are, they know your sound. There are a few
sounds vocally. I mean, you think of a Michael McDonald,
you think it of to certain people. Reba Rambo is
one of those persons that has that distinct What's it
(04:32):
like to be in a family? And then all of
a sudden, because of the way times of the Lord works,
you're out there and you are the boy, not a
voice of the family, you are the voice of the family.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Well, first of.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
All, you know, I'm from Walnut Grove, Kentucky, population thirty
six exactly. So your roots will keep you humble because
your family will remind you where you came from. But
I am so thankful for my background, for my heritage.
You know, my mother's family are Cherokee, and I'm so
thankful for my heritage. But you know, mother was she
(05:09):
was a force to be reckoned with. And my dad
was a very wise man. We're here with Paul Craig Pino,
and he my dad loved Paul Creig. But they taught
me about integrity. They taught me We used to live
in a little house trailer in Kentucky, so anything that's happened,
it's all bonus since then. It wasn't like I came
(05:29):
for privilege at all. But Mom and Dad taught me
a great work ethic. They both worked hard. Mother for
a good fifteen years was one of those people that
she wrote something every day. Wow. And she instilled that
kind of discipline into me and my writing and my gifting,
to don't let your pen get atrophied, don't let it
get you know, stuff, get keep it fluid, and keep
(05:52):
it going. And I love that part. So now I
do more writing than anything. But lately I've been doing
a lot of a lot of singing again, which is wonderful.
This December first will mark sixty years of full time
ministry for me, because that's just a pup when I started.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, you know, I could easily we could talk about
your mother writing all of those I hate to say folklore,
but those songs that are of course Christians, but they
just touch you with they make you feel good. But
then she would also just go to we shall behold
Him and help lead a generation into other nests. But
(06:31):
I want to get to you back in seventy early seventies,
you started stepping old, maybe earlier then you started stepping
out and doing controversial things in the civil rights movement.
I did, and conversing and concerts and engaging Andrea voices
like that, doing concerts.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I travel with Andre.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I traveled with Andre and crouching the Disciples for
a year and a half.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
It was the only white girl that ever said with them.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
That we talk to me about that. What did you
experience with it?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Was an interesting time.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
My dad had had five heart attacks in one year
and was told that he could never sing again. So
we had just shut everything down except the publishing company
that part of it, and mother's writing. And I've been
friends with Andrea and Saundra Crouch for some time and
they came to the National Quartet Convention in Nashville, Wow,
and they Saunder said, why don't you just get on
(07:27):
the bus for a couple of weeks. We're on a
tour and you can go out with us for a
couple of weeks. And I called my mom and dad
they said sure, So I ran home packed a couple
of bags got on the bus, and the second night
I was there, Thank goodness, Bishop, I knew their music.
I had listened to those songs over and over and
over again, and I knew them very very well.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
The second night I was there.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Blinky Williams who was singing with them. She was on
the color purple and done many things. Her child got
sick and she had to go home. The second day
I was there.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So the second song the second day i'm there, Andre says,
we've got a young gal from.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Nashville that's going to come out and sing with us.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And I walked on the stage with no rehearsal, but
I knew the songs because at that time Sandra was
the only other girl, and she sang the very low part.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So there was.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Nobody on the high park. So anyway, I got is
we sending good take you? I got hornswabboed there.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
This was free Danny Belle.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Although Danny Belle was a great friend. I love her
so much. She she was a blessing. But anyway, for
a year and a half, that two weeks turned into
a year and a half. And then one night we
were traveling through Nashville and Andre came and woke me
up in my bunk and said, the Lord spoke to me,
We're going to stop at your parents' house and God's
(08:47):
going to raise your dad up.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Whoa.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
So we'd the whole bus, where was about fourteen.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Of us, stopped in my mom and dad's house and
my mother opened the door and said, I knew you
were coming.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
The Lord told me you were coming.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And we all gathered in and prayed from my dad,
and the Lord healed it, I mean, totally no damage
from the heart situation. Uh. And so then we started
touring a lot with the Disciples. I went back with
the Rambos, started touring a lot with the Disciples, and
that was quite an education to live in pacoy Men,
California for a year and a half.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
What what does that? What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
To to be from Kentucky, to be so acquainted with
the South right, and to be traveling with Andrea.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I learned how cruel people can be black and white
at times, and how wonderful they can be because so
many of the of the people accepted me as a
white girl.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Now sometimes my kids can hardly even imagine what was
what he was going on at the time. But it was,
and I was.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'd go to church a lot of times and be
the only white face there except for maybe a couple.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Of Andrea's musicians.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But you really, you really understand what it means to
be a people who were not people. Yes, the people
that are not black or white, and the cultures.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It didn't after a while, it mattered, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He was Andre, she was Sondra, he was Billish, he
was Parry, and and we became family. I mean literally,
I mean I spoke at Andre's homegoing. We became family.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
And still talk to Sondra all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
When I think, when I when I think of just
your music.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
The first song came to mind a moment ago was
to just two Free and then uh forget.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
From the Lord's Musical that won the Grammy.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, yes, it was like eighty eighty.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
One ish we recorded it, and I think it was
eighty one.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I think you're correct.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And I and so I hear as the wonderful Southern
gospel roots and then this mega musical that has the
chant and all of these glorious sounds, and then we
get into the eighties and and some of your writing
was so gloriously militantant.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
About the faith, you know, take up the yes.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Like ready for a battle when you've got this feet
shot with the preparation of peace. And it was all
about having a warfare mindset. I understand, of course it's
a finished work. Of course the victory.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Is already won. But we saw we got to walk
it out and so.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We went through you know, and everything in life you
go through seasons, and we went through the season of
really walking in a militant mindset, and you know what,
I'm thankful. But we also were writing songs like a
Wounded Soldiers, Yeah, because you can't have warfare without wounded soldiers.
So it was it was an exciting time and it
was a very steady paced, one of those quick times
(11:48):
in life that you know sometimes you're you're learning about
peace and there's.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Kind of that calm and you get in the river.
This was not that. This was let's get out.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
There and well, let me ask you, because so much
when I listen and I think of Reva, I'm thinking
about how you're doing music that's that's five.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Ten years ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Lyrically, sometimes music, but lyrically the message, the concepts, the
themes that are ahead. What you were doing with Andre,
what you were doing with the musical, the militancy, the lyrics,
then what it was saying. Now nobody thinks anything about
probably half of these these these outlets around here that
(12:31):
are that are here for the nr B are talking
about warfare and you were doing that. What is the
message now that you're singing and talking about that may
seem a little radical and different that three or four,
five years from now everybody will be saying that's normal.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, I think we went if I can just say
this step in the in the adventure is we went
from militancy to a kingdom mindset, and we began to
write songs about the kingdom, which are still some of
my favorite songs that we've written.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
They're unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, and now I find myself more writing about the
finished work of the crop, more about grace. It really
is amazing, and love it really is unconditional, and we
write a lot about that and how we are accepted
in the beloved and not as we say, a greasy
grace gospel, but.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
One of how big is His Love? How big is
His love?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You really helped to write the soundtrack of our kingdom.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Faith put words in.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
The in the mouths of people who who believe for that.
Let me ask you now, as we're talking about Kingdom,
your relationship with Israel, when especially now, when you're hearing
the violence, the massacre, the pain, the anguish, the suffering,
how does all that you've written about, all the way
(13:57):
back to what your mother was writing about, how does
that fit in and that that that?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
How where are you with that? How? Well?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
First of all, I've always had a love for Israel.
My parents did too, and prayed for the piece of
Israel and the salvation of Jerusalem and all all those things. Uh.
But my son is named Israel. That's how much I
love Israel. My son is name Israel.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Anthem.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Wow, he has the song, and the Lord gave me
his name and said he has the song of the
true Israel in his heart.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
So it's very close to us. And we've done some
filming and some work there.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
As a matter of fact, my daughter Destiny and her
husband Joel were supposed to have been with Pastor Dan
Willis in Israel and in the fall, and.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Of course that that didn't happened.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So I think they're rescheduling and going to go to
Greece instead and study the life of.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Paul is what they're going to do.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
But our family has very close ties and we.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
We love Israel. We pray for Israel, we believe in Israel.
Like I said, my son's named him.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
There. Thank you. I want us to just pray before
I release you. Father.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I thank you for the life, for the ministry of Riba.
I thank you for who she has been, who she is,
and who she's becoming. Still I ask for a double
portion of annointing upon her life. That you would continue
to lead, guide, and direct in a revolutionary way place
the lyrics of losses, take those losses and turn them
(15:26):
into lyrics. I ask that, far more than information, revelation,
far more than strength, power, that she would see beyond
the visible and hear beyond the artible, and that you
would continue to use her and direct her to help
pin the soundtrack of those of us who are moving
to that city whose builder and maker is God.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And for all of this we give you praise. Amen.
Thank you so much, che thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
What an honor that's you
Hello, and welcome to Nourish Your Biblical Roots special Edition.
I'm Bishop Paulaere, Chairman of the Board of Directors for
the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Now I'll be
your host for today's podcast. We're broadcasting live from NRB,
the National Religious Broadcasters Convention, and during our time here,
(00:28):
we'll be talking with special guests on a variety of subjects,
especially as they relate to Israel, to the current situation there,
and the work of the Fellowship Today. I am excited
to be able to share with you moments with Christian musician,
artist writer Ribert Rambo. I want to say it again,
(00:52):
Riba Rambo, because this name is hallowed in my heart,
and growing up from her beginnings as the teenage singer
for her family's beloved gospel group, the Rambos, to a
long career serving the Lord with the songs she writes
and sings, Riba has not only ministered to generations of
(01:13):
people of faith, but has always been a brave and
a trailblazing artist.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I could contend you're.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Blessed and highly favored.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I could continue mentioning the fact that she is enshrined.
What a word She's enshrined in the Gospel Music Hall
of Fame, or has written and recorded dozens of songs
that are still beloved today. But I will let Riba
tell all of that and more. I'm trying to read this,
but what I'm thinking about is sitting in a dorm room,
(01:49):
probably about seventy seven, when your solo.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Album came out, Lady and Man.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It was so radical, it was pivotal, it was consequential.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And what was the song from Wizard of Ours?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think the Land of Uz and O yes, yes, yes,
and we went into somewhere of the rainbow.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Somewhere it was.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It had not been done, and especially you know you
play it now and say, oh, that's really very nice.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Put it in context of the times and the genre
the culture of music. Then it was just holy.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well. There were radio stations bishop that actually had Reba
record burning parties because they wanted me to stay just
a part of the rambows.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Which I loved that, oh absolutely.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But there was just more. There was another layer, another chapter.
But it was funny how some of the people responded.
But one thing that was such a blessing. That was
the largest selling Christian record that year, nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I think I was right well about that.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, it was incredible, And of course there's no way
anybody can say Rambo without thinking heritage and history and
longevity and your mother's writing, which my favorite song she
ever did with the perfect Rose, Oh, that song, it's
just well, she was.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Not only a poet, but she was also a great communicator.
And I've seen her do that song with a fresh
rose in her hand, and when it says it was
crushed and bruised, I've watched that rose get crushed, and
there's a video somewhere of her doing that, crushing the rose,
and then when she opens up her hand it's perfect again.
(03:33):
Oh my, Yeah, she had a lot of miraculous things
happened while she was singing that song. A lot of
miracles happened when she was singing that song.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well, you know, talk to me about what it's like
as we're sitting here at this table with the International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews, and it was founded by
an Orthodox rabbi forty years ago and a blessed memory
left this world too soon, but his daughter then stepped up,
stepped in, and as we would say, not only filled
(04:04):
their shoes, filled his shoes, but expanded them and stretched them, as.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You have done in the life of your own parents.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
What's it like to walk every day in such I
hate to use the word fame, but people know who
you are, they know your sound. There are a few
sounds vocally. I mean, you think of a Michael McDonald,
you think it of to certain people. Reba Rambo is
one of those persons that has that distinct What's it
(04:32):
like to be in a family? And then all of
a sudden, because of the way times of the Lord works,
you're out there and you are the boy, not a
voice of the family, you are the voice of the family.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Well, first of.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
All, you know, I'm from Walnut Grove, Kentucky, population thirty
six exactly. So your roots will keep you humble because
your family will remind you where you came from. But
I am so thankful for my background, for my heritage.
You know, my mother's family are Cherokee, and I'm so
thankful for my heritage. But you know, mother was she
(05:09):
was a force to be reckoned with. And my dad
was a very wise man. We're here with Paul Craig Pino,
and he my dad loved Paul Creig. But they taught
me about integrity. They taught me We used to live
in a little house trailer in Kentucky, so anything that's happened,
it's all bonus since then. It wasn't like I came
(05:29):
for privilege at all. But Mom and Dad taught me
a great work ethic. They both worked hard. Mother for
a good fifteen years was one of those people that
she wrote something every day. Wow. And she instilled that
kind of discipline into me and my writing and my gifting,
to don't let your pen get atrophied, don't let it
get you know, stuff, get keep it fluid, and keep
(05:52):
it going. And I love that part. So now I
do more writing than anything. But lately I've been doing
a lot of a lot of singing again, which is wonderful.
This December first will mark sixty years of full time
ministry for me, because that's just a pup when I started.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, you know, I could easily we could talk about
your mother writing all of those I hate to say folklore,
but those songs that are of course Christians, but they
just touch you with they make you feel good. But
then she would also just go to we shall behold
Him and help lead a generation into other nests. But
(06:31):
I want to get to you back in seventy early seventies,
you started stepping old, maybe earlier then you started stepping
out and doing controversial things in the civil rights movement.
I did, and conversing and concerts and engaging Andrea voices
like that, doing concerts.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I travel with Andre.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I traveled with Andre and crouching the Disciples for
a year and a half.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
It was the only white girl that ever said with them.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
That we talk to me about that. What did you
experience with it?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Was an interesting time.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
My dad had had five heart attacks in one year
and was told that he could never sing again. So
we had just shut everything down except the publishing company
that part of it, and mother's writing. And I've been
friends with Andrea and Saundra Crouch for some time and
they came to the National Quartet Convention in Nashville, Wow,
and they Saunder said, why don't you just get on
(07:27):
the bus for a couple of weeks. We're on a
tour and you can go out with us for a
couple of weeks. And I called my mom and dad
they said sure, So I ran home packed a couple
of bags got on the bus, and the second night
I was there, Thank goodness, Bishop, I knew their music.
I had listened to those songs over and over and
over again, and I knew them very very well.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
The second night I was there.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Blinky Williams who was singing with them. She was on
the color purple and done many things. Her child got
sick and she had to go home. The second day
I was there.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So the second song the second day i'm there, Andre says,
we've got a young gal from.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Nashville that's going to come out and sing with us.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And I walked on the stage with no rehearsal, but
I knew the songs because at that time Sandra was
the only other girl, and she sang the very low part.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So there was.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Nobody on the high park. So anyway, I got is
we sending good take you? I got hornswabboed there.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
This was free Danny Belle.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Although Danny Belle was a great friend. I love her
so much. She she was a blessing. But anyway, for
a year and a half, that two weeks turned into
a year and a half. And then one night we
were traveling through Nashville and Andre came and woke me
up in my bunk and said, the Lord spoke to me,
We're going to stop at your parents' house and God's
(08:47):
going to raise your dad up.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Whoa.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
So we'd the whole bus, where was about fourteen.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Of us, stopped in my mom and dad's house and
my mother opened the door and said, I knew you
were coming.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
The Lord told me you were coming.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And we all gathered in and prayed from my dad,
and the Lord healed it, I mean, totally no damage
from the heart situation. Uh. And so then we started
touring a lot with the Disciples. I went back with
the Rambos, started touring a lot with the Disciples, and
that was quite an education to live in pacoy Men,
California for a year and a half.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
What what does that? What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
To to be from Kentucky, to be so acquainted with
the South right, and to be traveling with Andrea.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I learned how cruel people can be black and white
at times, and how wonderful they can be because so
many of the of the people accepted me as a
white girl.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Now sometimes my kids can hardly even imagine what was
what he was going on at the time. But it was,
and I was.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'd go to church a lot of times and be
the only white face there except for maybe a couple.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Of Andrea's musicians.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But you really, you really understand what it means to
be a people who were not people. Yes, the people
that are not black or white, and the cultures.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It didn't after a while, it mattered, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He was Andre, she was Sondra, he was Billish, he
was Parry, and and we became family. I mean literally,
I mean I spoke at Andre's homegoing. We became family.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
And still talk to Sondra all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
When I think, when I when I think of just
your music.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
The first song came to mind a moment ago was
to just two Free and then uh forget.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
From the Lord's Musical that won the Grammy.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, yes, it was like eighty eighty.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
One ish we recorded it, and I think it was
eighty one.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I think you're correct.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And I and so I hear as the wonderful Southern
gospel roots and then this mega musical that has the
chant and all of these glorious sounds, and then we
get into the eighties and and some of your writing
was so gloriously militantant.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
About the faith, you know, take up the yes.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Like ready for a battle when you've got this feet
shot with the preparation of peace. And it was all
about having a warfare mindset. I understand, of course it's
a finished work. Of course the victory.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Is already won. But we saw we got to walk
it out and so.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We went through you know, and everything in life you
go through seasons, and we went through the season of
really walking in a militant mindset, and you know what,
I'm thankful. But we also were writing songs like a
Wounded Soldiers, Yeah, because you can't have warfare without wounded soldiers.
So it was it was an exciting time and it
was a very steady paced, one of those quick times
(11:48):
in life that you know sometimes you're you're learning about
peace and there's.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Kind of that calm and you get in the river.
This was not that. This was let's get out.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
There and well, let me ask you, because so much
when I listen and I think of Reva, I'm thinking
about how you're doing music that's that's five.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Ten years ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Lyrically, sometimes music, but lyrically the message, the concepts, the
themes that are ahead. What you were doing with Andre,
what you were doing with the musical, the militancy, the lyrics,
then what it was saying. Now nobody thinks anything about
probably half of these these these outlets around here that
(12:31):
are that are here for the nr B are talking
about warfare and you were doing that. What is the
message now that you're singing and talking about that may
seem a little radical and different that three or four,
five years from now everybody will be saying that's normal.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, I think we went if I can just say
this step in the in the adventure is we went
from militancy to a kingdom mindset, and we began to
write songs about the kingdom, which are still some of
my favorite songs that we've written.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
They're unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, and now I find myself more writing about the
finished work of the crop, more about grace. It really
is amazing, and love it really is unconditional, and we
write a lot about that and how we are accepted
in the beloved and not as we say, a greasy
grace gospel, but.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
One of how big is His Love? How big is
His love?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You really helped to write the soundtrack of our kingdom.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Faith put words in.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
The in the mouths of people who who believe for that.
Let me ask you now, as we're talking about Kingdom,
your relationship with Israel, when especially now, when you're hearing
the violence, the massacre, the pain, the anguish, the suffering,
how does all that you've written about, all the way
(13:57):
back to what your mother was writing about, how does
that fit in and that that that?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
How where are you with that? How? Well?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
First of all, I've always had a love for Israel.
My parents did too, and prayed for the piece of
Israel and the salvation of Jerusalem and all all those things. Uh.
But my son is named Israel. That's how much I
love Israel. My son is name Israel.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Anthem.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Wow, he has the song, and the Lord gave me
his name and said he has the song of the
true Israel in his heart.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
So it's very close to us. And we've done some
filming and some work there.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
As a matter of fact, my daughter Destiny and her
husband Joel were supposed to have been with Pastor Dan
Willis in Israel and in the fall, and.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Of course that that didn't happened.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So I think they're rescheduling and going to go to
Greece instead and study the life of.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Paul is what they're going to do.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
But our family has very close ties and we.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
We love Israel. We pray for Israel, we believe in Israel.
Like I said, my son's named him.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
There. Thank you. I want us to just pray before
I release you. Father.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I thank you for the life, for the ministry of Riba.
I thank you for who she has been, who she is,
and who she's becoming. Still I ask for a double
portion of annointing upon her life. That you would continue
to lead, guide, and direct in a revolutionary way place
the lyrics of losses, take those losses and turn them
(15:26):
into lyrics. I ask that, far more than information, revelation,
far more than strength, power, that she would see beyond
the visible and hear beyond the artible, and that you
would continue to use her and direct her to help
pin the soundtrack of those of us who are moving
to that city whose builder and maker is God.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And for all of this we give you praise. Amen.
Thank you so much, che thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
What an honor that's you
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