Q is Crumbling

In the final episode of Q Clearance we recap on everything we've learned about QAnon, as well some new information about Paul Furber and a guide on how to rebuild lost relationships with QAnon fanatics when the dust settles.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Q and On is the world's largest online political conspiracy movement.
Followers believe someone code named Q is provided them with
secret information from inside the White House. No one really
knows the real identity of Q, though we aim to
change that. I'm Jake Hanrahan and this is Q Clearance,
a podcast series aimed at unmasking the true identity of Q.

(00:25):
This is brought to you by IR Radio and Q
Daytaur Media. Last episode, we built the final part of
our case that shows very strongly that the Watkins family
are currently in control of the Q and On account.
In this final episode, will be reviewing all the information
that we've learned along the way and looking at how

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we can maybe help to understand and perhaps stop the
spread of life consuming conspiracy theories like Q and On. Firstly, though,
I just want to thank everyone that's been listening. We've
had an excellent reception to Q Clearance. I am very
happy that you have found this useful. Thank you very much. Now,

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many many people have got in contact with me since
the series launched. Some just say, oh wow, I didn't
know how deep Q and On was. Some have thanked
me for explaining the details of the theory. But many
have reached out to say how their families have been
tipped upside down by relatives who have let Q and

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On take over their whole lives. This might sound dramatic,
but there are hundreds, probably thousands of people all over
the US and the rest of the world who have
family members that believe they're evil or somehow their enemy
because they question Q. It's a real problem, and like
Sarah Hyatt Tower said in episode one, Q and On

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is looking more and more like a cult. Speaking of messages,
one of the more interesting ones that I got Joe
yesterday came from a man who claims to have known
Paul Furber for decades. If you remember, Paul Furber is
who we think first had control of the Q and
on account and made it popular as it moved over

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from four Chan to h Chan. This guy who messaged
me he wants to remain anonymous, will call him Jack.
He messaged me saying he'd listened to Q Clearance and
he was shocked to hear Paul Furber's name. He showed
me evidence that proved he was, in fact an old
acquaintance of Furber's, quite a bit closer than an acquaintance

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actually in some ways, but I don't want to say
too much. This guy Jack said something to me very
interesting whilst we had a conversation. He said, quote, do
I think Paul Furber could have been q and On?
Absolutely the manner of speech and writing fit him. I
believe end quote. Remember this guy has known Paul Furber

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for decades. He proved it to me. Jack then went
on to say that Paul Furber is a very smart guy,
but has long been diagnosed with a serious mental health issue.
He said he thinks Furber is deteriorating at the moment.
He also said that Paul has always been a Christian fundamentalist,
which would certainly add up with some of the hard

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line Christian que drops that were posted on a Chan. Now,
if you look at Furber's bizarre tweets in his one
man failed mission to make Big Dick and On relevant,
I think it's definitely a possibility that he has been
having issues with his mental health for a while. I'm
not saying that to take the Pierce. It's genuinely quite

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clear that this is going on, and it's not good.
This is one of the saddest parts of long drawn
out conspiracy movements. Like Q and On, it not only
attracts griff as and con men, but also sweeps up
the mentally ill or It makes those already fragile in
that respect slip down a dangerous rabbit hole of hoaxes. Anyway,

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Q Clearance final episode, let's recap it all. If you
cast your mind back nine weeks ago to episode one,
you'll remember that's when we first laid out what Q
and On actually is and what the people that follow
it believing. Let's go over it again so we can
start connecting this Q Clearance map of hours from start

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to finish in one place. So, as we discussed in
episode one, if anyone asks you what Q and On is,
you can completely free them out by saying the following.
Q is a decentralized global conspiracy theory movement that believes
a man with a special government clearance in a mirror

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car is posting secret information from the White House. This
guy is known as Q. Q is doing this by
posting the supposed government information on an image board website
that allows pedophiles and Nazi terror groups that want to
put an end to America to post openly. Q is

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doing all of this because he claims he's a true
American patriot and that his mission is to stop a
deep state cabal of pedophiles within the Democrat Party and
the so called mainstream liberal media. He needs to stop
them launching a silent coup data against Trump, who is

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also in on the act under the code name Q plus.
It's absolutely unbelievably ridiculous. Why would an anti pedophile American
patriot with a Q clearance post secret information on an
image board where pedophile piles are allowed to roam free
and neo Nazis are allowed to talk about how much

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they want to launch terror attacks to bring America to
its needs. It makes no sense. Not only that, why
would he choose to form this global digital army when
Q could just get anyone planning a U S cop
arrested immediately if he had the evidence he claims to.
If someone has a Q clearance, they're certainly trusted by

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the government on some level above your average citizen. I
don't think it would be hard for Q to get
the authorities to take his evidence seriously if he had any.
What's more, again, if Q was real, why the funk
did Donald Trump lose the election recently? Well as we
know by now Q and On followers have an answer

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for everything. But just keep in mind that these are
completely fair and logical questions for anyone you encounter that
might be Q and On curious. In fact, I have
met people that are kind of interested in Q and
they think there might be something behind it, And before
they get too deep into it, I've said to them, Hey,
why would a guy that wants to stop pedophiles post

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on an image board that allows pedophiles. H Chan, for example,
even had its own board where pedophiles could gather and
talk about horrific acts of child abuse as if it
was some kind of war story. Why would somebody like
Q if he was he he says he is, why
would he do that? Often this does actually help when
people go, oh, yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, this is

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actually quite dark. Unfortunately a lot of people disregardless and
just say, oh, well Q had to use h chan
and a con because the cabal tried to stop him
everywhere else. It's ridiculous, but it is the way it is,
So we know what you and On is. What it
isn't is a left wing hoax. Remember episode two, That's

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the one where we thoroughly debunked one of the much
type theories that Q and on is being one by
a bunch of leftist hoaxes called the Woming Collective. The
idea was that they were doing this just to try
and make mega boomers look stupid. We heard from one
of the lead members of the Woming Collective ourselves, and

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he was adamant that it wasn't them. None of it
really added up either. The Woming Collective has always claimed
to their stunts and hoaxes. No one has ever come
forward to say, yeah, we're behind Q and on and
it's definitely run its course. Now before the election would
have been the time they didn't do it. It's not
the Wombing Collective. This theory was all just badly researched

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hype from an old BuzzFeed article. The article itself was
actually built off of a four Chan post that basically said,
ha ha, we've tripped the right wing boomers with this
Q and on hoax. Just remember almost never take four
chance seriously, as the journalist did that wrote that article.

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In episode three, we learned all of out the aforementioned
Paul Furber. This is when we discovered that he'd likely
taken over the q and on account after it was
kicked off of four Chan. Remember, Further was the only
one that could supposedly verify that when Q posted it
was the real QUE, a problem that is obviously very

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rife on a completely anonymous image board like four chan
or h Chan. After this, in episode four, we showed
how Paul Furber had his Q and on train hijacked.
That is, we think the Watkins family took the Q
and on account away from Further. How well, remember Jim

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Watkins son Ron Watkins, was the h Chan admin, effectively
the only person above Paul Furber that could verify that
Q was in fact Q. He played a big switchero
on Furber and became Q. Why would he do this, Well,
the Watkins family needed this train to speed up. The

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more people that came to h and, the better. More
traffic means more advertisers, which means more money. If the
Watkins could control the Q narrative, they could better control
how people engage with it. Therefore, they could bring more
people to h and to check up on all the drops. Also,
both the dad and the son are big time MAGA

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fundamentalists who dwell in the darkest part of the Internet
and mixed themselves amongst conspiracy theorists and petos. It makes
sense that someone like this would own a Q and
On and then the US election happened Biden one. As
we heard in episode four, Q and On's were absolutely

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certain that Trump, their god king, was going to win again.
There was no doubt in their mind. Q and On
said it will be a Trump landslide. When Trump wasn't reelected,
many Q and On followers actually took to the Internet
to state they're discussed and basically said they'd lost their
faith in Q. Others, though, went the other way. They

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doubled down. It's now largely Q and On followers that
are pushing the election fraud theory, stating that the Democrats
stole the election. They don't think that that means it's
over though, no, Many of them still believe that that
even that is all part of Que's plan and that
Trump will sweep in to take the election back and

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send everyone that he needs to send to prison and
let them rot, and then the plan will be done.
This theory is gaining weight within their community, especially since
Trump retweeted a Mega News segment that featured Ron Watkins
as a technical analyst. This is what we spoke about

(11:53):
in episode six when we stated that we believe the
Watkins family are definitely behind the q and on account currently.
In episode seven, we made our case for all of this,
showing the many coincidences between Jim Watkins's online activity and Q.
We also stuck our heads into the back end and

(12:15):
showed that h N and A tune are on the
same server as some of the most prominent Q and
on websites on the Internet. What a coincidence that leads
us up to now. Right now, Q has been mostly

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quiet since the election. There's only been a handful of
Q drops recently, and many Q and ons are clearly
very worried. They keep coming out with these bombastic statements
that I think actually show they're realizing something fishy is
going on. They're protesting a little bit too much, in

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my opinion. For example, one big q and on account
that has over two thousand followers on Twitter wrote this
the other day. This is major patriot. He said, quote,
you are witnessing the greatest intelligence operation in history, military
precision at its finest end. Quote. He's referring to what

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he thinks is Donald Trump and queue's current plan post election. Now,
maybe I'm wrong, but the constant doubling down at this
stage feels like he might be trying to convince himself
more than anyone else. Of course, he could very well
believe all of this. That's very possible. Many other Q

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and on's are awarding Trump with a golden medal despite
the fact he's not done anything yet. None of his
vote fraud cases are being taken seriously by the courts.
But either way, the qs think he's doing a great job.
They think it's genius. Here's another que and on account
hailing Trump as a military genius. The truth will do,

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says quote, do you understand how long our president has
been preparing, studying, analyzing. Not only is he a brilliant businessman,
but at this guy, real, Donald Trump is a military genius.
I could go on and on, and then he's got
the two eyes emoji and then it's ten slash two slash.

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Obviously this date and the tweet is from John Donald J. Trump.
It says, the Chinese and our hacking White House computers?
Why not they already owned the place? They think that
the hardcore neoliberal democrats of the US. Somehow the same
as totalitarian communists of the CCP in China. I don't

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know anyway. Another Q and on tweet that shows them
doubling down is this one by a guy called ntheos. Quote.
The boss Man has been telegraphing moves all day, the
boss man being Trump. Hope everyone's listening. No wasted words,
no wasted tweets. He speaks, It happens hashtag son sue.

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And the tweet that he's quoted here is from Donald Trump,
again obviously, and it says the invisible enemy will soon
be in full retreat. Now. When Trump is talking about
the invisible enemy and stuff like that, it definitely plays
into the hands of Q and on supporters. That's very
much the kind of talk that Q and on uses.

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Here is the last, but one of my all time
favorite Q and on tweets of recent days. It's from
a guy called d o q Doc. It says, quote,
if there was a man who was persecuted more than
Trump has been in outside of Jesus Christ, who is
that man? They killed Jesus and he was perfect. Don't

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think for a second they aren't going to try and
kill you and me. End quote, And the reply is
jeb Alsonaro, the openly fascist Brazilian president. So this this
guy is saying that, you know, Trump is comparable to
Jesus Christ. He's saying that Trump is the second most

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persecuted or maybe as persecuted person in the history of
the world as Jesus Christ. I mean, it's it's unbelievable
to think that people are saying this, but that's what's
being said. Now. I am laughing at this, because come on,
it is insane, it's laughable. The coping mechanisms present here

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must be stretched very thin. However, there's one thing I
hope people can take away from this podcast from Q Clearance,
and that is that actually, you can't just mop these
people into submission. You will not be able to engage
with Q and On's by laughing in their face and
telling them how stupid they are. There are actually many

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highly intelligent people who have somehow fallen for this hoax.
In many ways, it feels like the old contagious dancing phenomena.
A whole village back in the day would start dancing
in the streets, not able to stop. The more people
that saw them, the more that joined. It was involuntary,
a very interesting situation. Q and On is like this

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in a way, but for anyone that's remotely interested in
right wing conspiracy theories, it's an immediate snowball. I don't
know how to stop it, but I do think part
of the problem lies within ourselves. I know that's not
going to be a popular opinion, but it's the one
I have. It's very easy to dream and laugh at

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people we disagree with, but it's a lot harder to
find common ground, which I think is something we should
be trying to do more of now, especially when you
consider what's going on in the last five years. The
toxic culture war in America has dropped its cluster munitions
if you like, all over the place. You cannot escape

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the viciously partisan dialogue taking over American politics. This all
rose up in a time when faith in mainstream media
was hitting an all time low, and Donald Trump made
his mission to label journalists as enemies. Now that is
not a partisan viewpoint. It's very clear. He said they

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are the enemy of the people, and if you like,
we can talk about Obama too. He did a lot
of bad things for the freedom of journalists in America,
but presently we're talking about Trump. Trump has said that
the journalists that basically say anything thing that doesn't go
along with his line of thinking are the enemies of
the people. That is an incredibly dangerous comment for the

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former president of the most powerful country in the world
to make. Now, if people ardently follow Trump, they're already
going to be mixed up within the culture war in
the US. If they're mixed up in that from the
right wing maga perspective, they have a leader Trump. When

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Trump says what he does about the media, the troops
then follow. We've seen in a small space of time
hundreds of thousands of people begin to completely disengage from
any media there isn't echoing their own opinions back to them.
When that happens, these people dig deeper into so called
alternative media. Now, some alternative media is very good and

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very on point. I run my own platform, Popular Front,
which some people would consider an alternative media platform. However,
a lot of the alternative media are simply just right
wing opinion pieces or left wing opinion pieces on the
other side, presented as news, and they always have a

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dash of drama at all times. In a way, this
is how Q cut his teeth. Remember, One of the
many Q and On slogans is we are the news Now.
The idea spread by a Q is that his followers
don't need to watch the news anymore, they don't need
to engage with it because they can create it themselves.

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They then feel like they have a more important role
and therefore a better place in the community. Everyone's agreeing
with them, so to make everyone happy, they link absolutely
everything back to Q and Trump and their champion for
it by their new que and non friends. Now, I'm

(20:57):
not trying to sound like some kind of five pint
for posso for here, but I think we do live
in some very dark times in many different ways. Whether
you like it or not, It's true that we're living
in a time of rampant hype of consumerism, NonStop urbanization,
and an over reliance on social media. The world can

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become a very lonely place. Everyone is online all the time. Now,
you might have family around you, but they might not
ever be really present due to the social media and
the phones. So therefore, if you can find an online
tribe of your own that patch you on the back
every day, you can find yourself a surrogate family. All

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be a very shallow one. This is, in my opinion,
one of the biggest draws for Q and On's. They
have a place where they're welcomed. On top of that,
it's all very exciting. They believe they're taking part in
a global investigation of the highest steaks. They build new
theories out of nothing and are told how smart they

(22:04):
are by Q for doing it, and they're also told
how stupid everyone else is for not seeing their excellence. Essentially,
it's grooming. It segregates people from their real life, and
it gives them a false sense of power within a
new community that will always tell them that they're right.
Many people want that, and it's not always their fault.

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Life is often boring and painful. If these people can
find a place to feel useful outside of their everyday
existence on a level as secretive and powerful as they
think you and on is, it's no wonder they fall
for cues lies every time in a fuckt up way.
I am sure for many Q and On's that the

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real plan is the friends they made along the way.
That would be fine if Q wasn't calling for the
mass murder of any politicians that don't agree with his politics,
and if he wasn't tearing families apart, but Q is
doing that now. I don't think Q is going to
last forever. I think it's probably going to fade out
within the next year or two. But I do think

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the next iteration of Q, which trust me, will come,
I think that will cause even more damage. I'm not
sure how to combat it all, but from my experience
researching all of this, engaging with q and On followers
and constantly reading them many posts, I think one thing
that's maybe helpful is listening and engaging. I know that

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sounds simple, but you never know how much that can
help a person. Perhaps you have a slightly wacky uncle
or your mom is over sharing conspiracy theories on Facebook.
Don't scream at them, don't ignore them, and don't try
to shame them in front of others. Forget all of
this canceling culture. Forget that. Instead, maybe log off, take

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them outside for a walk and speak to them before
it's too late. Don't just do it once, either, change
your routines to make sure they don't change theirs and
become obsessed with this insane Q and On theory. Now,
if it is too late and they're already deep in
the Q and On Maze. Maybe try to talk to
them to see if they'll listen to Q Clearance with

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you make it a game. Say you want them to
debunk here. I don't know. I'm not just saying that
because yeah, I want people to listen to Q Clearance.
I've put a lot of work into this with the
help of Sarah Hightower, and I think what we've done
here is pointing out many of the floors to Q
and On without trying to totally degrade the Q and
On people. It's distressful for people that are living with

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a family torn apart by Q right now. But just
remember Q will eventually fall. His base is already crumbling.
When Q and On start to clear their eyes, don't
laugh at them or tell them I told you so.
Just try to re build whatever you've lost. Oh when

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one last thing, Fuck Jim Watkins, Fuck Ron Watkins. This
was Q Clearance. Thank you very much for listening. Q
Clearance is brought to you by I Heart Radio and
Co Daytar Media. I'm Jake Hanrahan. You can find me

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online at Jake underscool Hand Rahand. That's h A N
A h A N. This episode was produced by myself
with fat checking by Sarah Hightower. The music is by
Sam Black and the sound levels were mixed by Thomas
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