April 5, 2023 • 58 mins
In part two of Ice-T's Questlove Supreme interview, he speaks about transitioning to acting. Ice opens up about working on New Jack City and other films while discussing working with Dick Wolf and Law & Order for a quarter-century. The O.G. also speaks about being embraced as a pitch-man and giving free game with his new podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of course, Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. What's up, y'all?
We're back with part two. Of course Love Supreme with
the legendary Ice Tea. Yep, Ice gave it so much
game we decided to make this a two part or so.
It makes sense, you know, because ICE's Daily Game is
a new podcast where he offers daily wisdom. Make sure
y'all check out part of one. We'll we talk about
Ices upbringing his music, and here's part two where I
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see to gives us a sample of that Daily Game.
All right? Of course Love Supreme Part two with the
legendary Ice Tea. How easy was it? And transitioning to acting,
like did it take long for Mario to convince you
to do New Jack City? You got great questions because
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first off, I'm not no motherfucking acting like I mean,
everybody looks at TV goes I wish I could do that,
But who has a chance to do it? You know?
So I've been in the breaking movies and the breaking movies.
I was called featured rap talker. How about that? Right?
They didn't even know what a rapper was? Right? So
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you heard the story about New Jack City? Well, I
know about George Jackson's coining the term, but please, please please.
I'm in a toilet stall in a club and some
niggas is talking shit to me in the toilet, I'm
taking a shit. I'm sitting there, and motherfucker's was like,
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ice you cold man, you'll be telling this that. I say,
your player. The problem is that they could take a
microscope and find one molecule in my body that gave
a fuck, then they'd have a chance. But there's not one.
And so Mario overhears that and says, whoever said that?
If are my movie? Whoever said that? And it was me.
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So I'm in the club campaigning to three girls, right,
I'm I'm talking this ship to these chicks, and Mario
comes up with the Hollywood bullshit. I'm producing a movie.
I want you to be in it. I'm like that
some bullshit like you trying to let these girls know
you're a producer. Yeah, Mario don't. Yeah, but I knew quest.
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You know the Hollywood bullshit when somebody walks up in
the middle of your conversation with somebody, Hey, we should
work like shut the fuck up, like you can find
me if you want to work like this is so stage.
So I'm like, okay, ladies, this is Mario Van People's
Dotty Dotty. But he wasn't lying, so he hands me
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a card. So he calls me call Warner Brothers tomorrow.
So I call it. They say come up here and blow.
I come on this. I come through the gates. I
get there and they show me the script. They want
you to play Scottie. I read that shit quest. I
was like, yo, this is all the words, like I
thought it was a cameo. Nah, nah, this is a star.
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I'm like, I can't act, Yes, you can. I keep
reading this. Niggas the Police, Yeah yeah, I got an
album coming out called Original Gangster. You Wann't play Police?
Wait a minute? Hoh whad he got dreads? I got
a firm like everything. So I'm just totally like, na, no,
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I can't do this. But then I talked to people
and they were like, man, if you fuck up this.
Back at the Beauty Parliament where I got most of
my game, I had this hairdresser named Pearl and she said,
you niggas running around here talking about no opportunities, no opportunities,
and here's one, and you're gonna turn this down if
you turn this down, you're a real live sucker, because
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this is a great opportunity. Niggas know you ain't the police, nigga,
you better go up in there and do that gig
and then I'll talk to my boys. They're like I said, man,
they want me to play the police, and niggas be like,
word can, I'll be in the movie. That's all they
So I did the movie, and I was scared shitless
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that it was going to end my career because at
that time, no rapper had taken a dramatic role. Yet
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold hold on, hold on,
hold on, No, he's right, he is right Smith. The
only thing run DMC did tougher than leather and all
that old ship acting like somebody else does not. Nobody
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was the first. I told you, I'm on my first ship.
Usually the first one who's the pioneer never gets the
just desserts that the person that comes behind them does.
So that is risky that you want to be first.
But I always see history as the second person that
masters it. But I did it, POC did it. Everybody
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started doing it back in the day when when being
a rapper like you want to act like you was
betraying the culture, like you. It wasn't. It just wasn't.
At that time, rappers wasn't even owning their own label.
It was like rappers were very in its own zone.
So they got me, They got Chris Rock, who is
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the newest underground. You know. Kat Wesley had only done
two movies, Major League and a Spike Lee flot so
they didn't trip off this. They didn't have enough black
actors to make the movie. Now we could do Black Panther.
There were not enough young black actors that had any
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potential to pull a crowd. So they said iced tea
selling millions of records, right, you know, and Alan Payne
and Vanessa Williams couldn't have done it alone, right, Astley Wesley.
So they used the power of the rapping Me and
Chris being hot on the street, George Jackson and Doug McKenny.
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They put us in the row, and uh, the shit
popped off. I was scared as fuck. The movie made
eighty seven million dollars. I got paid twenty five thousand dollars. Wow.
So by the time you get the trespass and surviving
the game and surviving again, Yeah, that's my favorite Ice
Team movie that's surriving game is the one about this
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the second movie with Ricochet with Denze Can I ask
how how is Hollywood? Because the thing is now it's
nothing for rappers like for people to pivot into other
areas and other mediums. But how's the reception to you
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coming into their territory? Hollywood? Simple? If if the movie
you're in makes money, you're gonna be in another movie.
That's his Hollywood. It's like his money. It's pimpant. If
this whole can make me some money here, maybe you
can make me some money there. They don't. They don't care.
You know. Uh, they can't really tell what great acting is.
They can tell what the fan response is, so they
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that works cool. So you know, New Jack City was
a hit in comes some scripts. Let's see if he
could do it again. So I walked into Joe Silver's office,
one of the biggest producers, and I said, okay, New
Jack City. They fucked me right, but I know I'm
about to get paid. I'm with Denzel's about to get
paid that. The motherfucker looked at me and said, Ice Tea,
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You've done one movie. So I bent over and took
it again I got for for for Ricochet, I got
twice what I got for New Jack City, and I
didn't work as much. My pay day didn't come till
I did Tank Girl where I played the roup lo
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Where was that in the Surviving the game? Trustpad, I'm
trying to remember tank I'm where it was and it
was tank Girl Surviving the Game. Then I Girl did
Johnny Knewmonic with Keanu Reeves, and then I did I
was doing Johnny Numonic with Keanu Reeves and they called me,
they say, will you play a stripper in Arizona. I'm like,
hell yeah, this is my chance to hella what it
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looked like. I was on slow. You've seen a riginal
gangster posters, so I was on my bullshit. So that
night I did like a thousand crunches. I'm like, I'm
about to let these ladies know what's happening. Right. So
the next day they sent me a picture of a kangaroo.
I'm like, what the fuck am I stripper? Like? I
opened my pouch like, what the fuck is this? And
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they know it's a ripper. It's a kangaroo. And the
movie's called tank Girl, right because you played a mixture. Yeah,
you was a right. You gotta understand. I'm with Keanu
Reeves doing a big motion picture. Now they're telling me
to do something called tank Girl as a kangaroo. Ye, Like,
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can y'all at your motherfucking mind? Like what's really good?
And then they told me how much I was gonna
get and uh, I was hopping around the hotel, you know,
because they're like, when you sell out? I see, selling
out is when something is totally against your beliefs, right
when they can make you be quiet. I have nothing
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against fucking kangaroos. I have nothing at all against them.
So I was like, fuck this, I'll be a motherfuck
kangaroo and I got a bag for that. That's the
first mill plus role. I'll say that. You know, America's
now just adapted to festival lifestyle, but you know, you're
a pioneer and the fact that you were one of
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the very first acts on Lallapalooza, which is really America's
first true I mean, I mean, besides you know, farm
Aide or you know whatever, but what was that the
experience of Lollapaluza, Like especially that first year where all
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this stuff was brand new to American culture. There's always
a story behind Ice t Ship. But I like people
to know so they can get a true understanding how
this game is, because it's not as simple as that.
Ernie body Count was now just starting. We were we
were playing like pizza joints and just getting getting a
vibe for what this band was. And Ernie had met
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Perry Farrell. Right, Harry Carroll was doing a video called
The Gift where he wanted someone to sing Nigga Whitey
with him. Slides sone shit, yeah right. So Ernie says,
Iced Tea, Iced Tea's hardcore. This is the perfect person.
So I come to the video shoot. I know the song.
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I got no problem singing it with him, and we
sang nigga Whitey backup, gonna call me nigga Whitey, Don't
call me whitey nigga. So we doing this shit. So
after we did the video, he says, Ice, I'm about
to do a tour called Lollapalooza. It's gonna have butthole Surfers,
Rollins band. He was naming bands he wanted to get
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and he said, I want to take a rapper out,
would you like to go? I'm like, hell, yeah, hell yeah.
So what happened was I had an hour set fifty
five minutes set, and then they said you could do
whatever you want, and I split the set and I
did half iced tea half body Count. That's where I
introduced body Count to the world. And after I would
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do my rap set, I said, now I'm about to
prove to you that rock and roll has nothing to
do with color. It's a state of mind. And we
turned the guitars up and blow and that was it.
You ain't want to remind them rock and rolls aren't
some gonna jump anyway. So well, you know, hip hop
is rock, whether people want to claim it or not.
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You don't aren't be the mic. We rocked the mic,
We rocked the house. Rock. See, pop is when you
sing what everybody wants to hear. This is what I
learned this from Quincy Jones. Pop is easy to do.
Sing what people want to hear. Go to school, love
your mother, Da da da. That's pop. Be popular. Rock
is fuck that. I'm gonna do this shit my fucking way.
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That's rock. Now, whether you do that with pianos, whether
you do that with guitars, or you do that with
a mic. Or some drums. Hip hop is rock period,
all right. I know, I know you've been asked a
trillion times about the cop killer incident, but why no, No,
I know, but you know, I also feel like that
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doesn't define you, especially now. But you know, you know
what it is though. You only get stripes for fighting battles,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm very proud of
my battles, you know, because that was a moment where
I could have got taken out, you know, like not
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even just my career. They were trying to get rid
of a nigga, you know. That's what I want to know, Like,
how serious? How rare did he get? The worst ship
was bomb threats to Warner Brothers where they had to
clear the building on several occasions, or what they were
threatening to blow up Warner Brothers and they had to
clear the build holding on several occasions on account of
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me because they were getting bomb threats. Yeah, it got heavy.
Um who's threatening because we're talking about the authority, So
who is the threat? That's an interesting part. This is
something you gotta understand with beef. If you create beef,
you might not have problems with the people you're beefing
with you have a problem with outside of let's say hypothetically,
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I gotten a beef with let's say method man, who's
one of my good friends. I ain't gotta worry about
running the meth. I could run into some wu tang things.
I could run into somebody who who who loves him
at a restaurant. I could run into some girls that
fuck you ice. It can happen. So when you just
the cops, you can run into somebody whose brothers a cop,
an X cop, somebody who's just you set up energy
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of beef out there. You don't know where it's gonna
You never just beefing with one person, Yeah right, you're
beefing with their fans, right every fucking so I was,
you know when we did cop Killer and they made
it a big thing by it becoming so public, it
gave more people a chance to dislike me. You know,
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it wasn't a small thing. It went national. Now you
gotta understand its levels of news, Like all this shit's
on the black blogs, that's nigga news. That's that news.
You you ain't gonna know about that, But when it
makes it to CNN, that's national news. Follow what I'm saying.
So a lot of this I gotta do it. I
gotta do a parallel, folks. It's kind of like, well, Kerann,
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I gotta do the white parallel because we can't just
do nigga news. We gotta do cracker news too. So yeah,
I just yeah, okay, I got you though. But the
certain blogs that we listened to, yes, right, yes, if
you talk to somebody in the mainstream, they have no
idea that such and such as beat or they don't
know about that stuff. TMZ starting to leak a little
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bit of our business out there. But you who's cheating
on who? They don't care that makes money? Right? National
news is coming on right after the war, and uh,
you know Ukraine, Warren Roukane, now I see you and
Warner Brothers. This is now. Now you're in front of
the world. This is big shit. So you gotta know,
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like a lot of the stuff that we take as
big isn't really that big. It's kind of like cultural,
you know, and it hasn't really made it to the
to the main stream. This ship was big. The President
was on my bumper, you know, we were let me
date myself. We were playing techno bowl quest and my
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boy comes downstairs, like, yo, the president is on TV
talking about ice and we ran upstairs and Quail so
the ice to you. So Quail's like ice to you,
And all the homies in the house was like, oh shit,
oh shit, oh shit. See, very few people will ever
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have a living president say their name and anger. That's
saved for like terrorists and been laden and shit like that.
When the president is mad at you, fuck the police,
you have the United States government on your bumper. I
got tax audited twice that year. I had ice cream
trucks sitting in front of my house in the middle
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of the winter. These motherfuckers is on you. They're trying
because when a president says questlove, this guy's a problem.
All the FBI, DA, all of them do background checks
because the next question could be what do we know
about him? They can't say he plays on Tonight Show,
he's a drumming, his shoe size, is this, his blood type?
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Is this? This happens? When that happens, you feel it.
You feel the government looking you up and down to
try to find out because they had to check and seat.
Was I really trying to make a call to arms?
Was I telling people go kill the cops in my problem,
which I was, and I was just making a record.
Oh wait, did you did you feel vindicated because Rodney
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King happens a year later? No, they blamed Rodney King
on me. They spun it to make it seem like
I made that record because of Rodney King. I got
caught in a big It was a it was a
political year of the Paternal Order of Police out of Texas.
Spun it. They spun it and made it seem like
I caused the riots. They they they was on a bullshit.
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They had a big machine. But see here's the trip.
They weren't really mad at me. They were mad at
Warner Brothers because they were like, Okay, we understand iced
Tea should be mad, but why White company give him
the platform to say this? And that became the death
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of Warner Brothers. You gotta remember when I did that.
Warner Brothers had Prince, Warner Brothers had Slayer, they had
the Ghetto Boys, they had Sam Kenniston, they had anything
that was edgy. And that ended, and and and and
when the last thing was when they dropped the deal
with Interscope, when that was all happening, when Ted Turner
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came in. Warner Brothers had to separate from anything controversial,
costing me. I started to wow. But for a second,
did it feel like your bag was about to stop
in terms of like people were not take were you
losing roles? Where you? Yah? New Jack City Part two?
So there was going to be a sequel? Yeah? I
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didn't know that, me neither, but Nino lived. Well wait,
you knew this about? Yeah? I saw, I saw George
Jackson and they they did an interview. This was years ago,
but they mentioned it then, but it never But what
happened was Wesley went off and he did Demolition Man
and made seven million, and you know, I was in trouble.
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So now they can't hit Wesley's number because the whole
movie knew Jack was made for five million. Everything happened,
but now you know I got You know what happened though,
It's like when you get in some shit like this.
I never pointed in any other rappers. I never pointed
in any other rock groups because I'm like, Yo, this
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is my heat, and you know, to me, that's kind
of like like snitching. It's kind of like, Yo, you
got caught, nigga, handle your business. Take it. This is
your ship, so you never seen nice? But what about
this group or what about now? I'm like, okay, you
on me, let's go fuck it. But the way they
came at me, I didn't know if I was gonna survive,
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you know what I'm saying. But I just had to
stand my ground and I and I remember I met
with Minister Farkhan at Honorable Elijah Muhammad's house and in
all honestly, he just told me, he said, yet what
you did wasn't subtle. If you stand in the street,
expect to get hit by car. So I had to
learn that we have freedom of speech, but watch what
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you say and you have I had the right to
sing cop killer, but they also had the right to attack.
So anything you say, prepare for the ramifications of what
you say. And I was not prepared for the ramifications.
I was just singing some shit and I wasn't ready
for them to attack. So that's a lesson. You know,
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you could say anything. We all have the right to
say anything, but you also gotta be if you say
something anti gay, be prepared. You did what I'm saying,
if I mentioned any rapper's name, be prepared. So just
gonna be reckless talking and shit and think there won't
be no smoke, you know, And if I do say it,
I should be ready for that smoke, you know. If
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I'm Colin pack Happernick and I dropped down and I'm
gonna hop pull a kneel, I gotta know that NFL
is gonna make a move on me, and I gotta
be strong enough to handle that. Or I shouldn't do it.
They don't do it, you know, So don't don't protest
and get fired. And now because you got fired, because
to protest you gotta you gotta be prepared for the hits.
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There's gonna be a hit back, or you're not really
protesting nothing. So I had to drop some gyms there
for us. I wanted to ask about the Home Invasion
record because that one came on Priority. Um what led
to that change from Warner to Prity because after Cop Killer,
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Warner was scared to put my records out. So what
happened was I came in with Home Invasion because now
I'm consecutive. I had every record I put out with
Gold and a power term Platinum. I'm hot over there.
But they just went through some shit. Body count itself
now if so, it's so gold twice. It went gold
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with cop Killer and went gold without cop Killer on it.
I'm making money over there for them. And I came
in and they had my lyrics written on these big boards.
They wrote it out. They was and uh, I had
some foulet. I had this one rhyme in G style
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where I say I give a fuck about a cop
or a G man. They all talk shit, They're breath
smelling like seamen. I catch them in the alley all alone.
Put him in the prone pop pop pop to the dome.
So I'm still killing cops, right, I'm sorry, you know
that's that's what I do. So they pull this lyric out,
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that lyric out, this lyric out, and I was just like,
you know what, can I go? You as to go? Yeah?
I said, can I go? Because now I'm in a
difficult place. They never a and R at any of
my music. It was just good go body. Counter put
out an album called cop Killer. I love it over there.
I'm in a great play, but now should change. So
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Home Invasion was coming right after cop Killer, so they
let me go. Was Benny Medina part of any of
these meetings Benny Medina was the A and R guy
back in the day, but he never A and RM
me because he was Warner, not uh not sire. Benny
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was a good cat up there. He did the uptown thing.
And Benny was always a friend of mine, and he
was cool with me. Okay, but I'm dealing with Moe
Austen and Lenny Warnaker. I'm dealing with the top guys,
and they were They really didn't want me to go,
but they were. It was kind of like it was
a fucked up situation. I was getting them in trouble
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and I'll never forget they would like, as soon as
we allow them to censor you, we're up here, We're
up shit Creek and and and Warner stayed down with me,
even um Gerald Levin wrote a big thing in the
in the Wall Street Journal, the CEO of Time Warner
backing me up. And I just felt like, it's kind
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of like me and you were friends question and I'm
getting you in trouble, man, And I'm just like looking, no, no,
I'm just gonna bail man. I got because I gotta
still do me. I got, I gotta It's like Dave Chappelle,
I gotta go because I gotta I gotta do me
because my career is based on my integrity and I
can't have y'all sensor and my shit. So I'd go
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to priority. Brian Turner did NWA and all them. They
were still opening wide and they were ready and they
took the record. But I'll tell you what Warner did
and nobody knows this. They didn't charge me for the album.
So normally, let's say they gave me half a million
dollars to make that album. That was a lot of
money back in the days. Now people are getting threes
and five millions to make records. But any half a million,
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I didn't have to recoup it. They let you keep
your tapes and just go to Yeah, So that was
that was fly. They didn't say, hey, you could take
this album, but we gotta get the money back. They
just let me have it. So I took it over there,
and um, I was fighting with the source, and you know,
the source was talking shit because they yeah, they said
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I folded. They were like ice gave in, and you know,
and Chuck kept me saying because Chuck d said those
that aren't in the war should never come in on
the battles they don't and what the fuck is really
going on in here? Yes, that's why. On the record
you like Home Invasion, the first song is called It's On.
And that's why I was like, Yo, we can't take
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any cut off the products. You know what we're gonna do.
I I still got soldiers, you know, turn up to
Mike Dog so I can go off. Find me Charlton
Heston and I might cut his head off. You know,
I'm not to be fucked with. I was on my bullshit.
I was mad, you know, and you know I say, uh,
worst magazine. You're the first one you tried to disc
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Chuck Cuban me how to fuck you? Pick us three?
You pump motherfuckers. Ain't shit. You just a bunch of
holes making money off the pros. And when I see
you get you in my sights, I'll give you as
a story to write. It's On. So I remember how
how shocking was it for you? Some like nineteen years later,
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the sort of live through ninety nine problems now becoming
you know, kind of an anthem. I trust that you're
one of the publishers of ninety nine problems. Yeah, and
you know what it is quest Now everybody's trying to
turn that into beef. It ain't beef. It's it's no,
it's no beef. It's a story, and the story I
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never knew there was beef. I thought he credit I
thought he sampled you or covering the song. The new
podcast people like to take clips of what you say
and then switched. It looked like jay Z stole the song. No,
he cleared it. Can't do that. Did. Chris rock Ever
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tells that story on his episode nine nine. Problems come
from Brother Marquise, Right, and Brother Marquise was at my
house and he was talking about whoop there it is?
You know where that record comes from the original one
from Tag Team? That's the canoe. I'm ready. It was
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all right. Tag Team was the where the DJ's in
Magic City? Okay, And when the girls been over, they say,
and you've seen it, they say, whoop there it is.
That's where it came from. Okay, that's where it came from.
When you could see the coach who it is? They
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turned that into the song. So Marquis is sitting in
my house and he's like, man, all the nights I
sat in Magic City and they saying that shit nigga.
That was the phrase. It pays man. So he's talking.
Then out of nowhere, he said, man, I got nine
nine problems. A bitch ain't one though, and he said it.
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I said, that's a song. So I made the song.
You know, I gotta hold from the East, I gotta
hold from the West. I gotta hope from Alabama with
a pussy in the chest. So I'm saying, so I
make the record. And then Marquise did a verse right fun.
It was on Home Invasion. Those icy fans knew it.
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The legend goes Chris Rock was in the studio with
Rick Rubin when and they had Jay coming in and
they brought that song up to be remade. The song
was remade. They paid publishing publishing with M I had
a deal with I think Universal Publish A point seen
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money gone. That was it. That's how it happened. So
I'm at the Grammys, jay Z walks up to me.
He's like, Iice you know, I love you, man, I
love you because I met Jay way back with Big
Daddy King brought him through back in the day when
he was with Jazzo, right, So I got love for
jay Z. I'm you know, so Jay's like, you know,
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they say, man, I'm like, dude, I'm not mad. This
is the press they pushing this shit like that. It's
like you know what. And so I was talking to
him and I was like, well, Jay, you know, you
know you did the record, but at the end of
the record, you could have said, I you know, like
my nigga like yeah, but you know we laughed it
off and stuff. But yo, I mean, you know it's
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what it is. It's hip hop. Look, I just told
you I was influenced by ye think about that, like
everybody don't automatically do what you do that way. Yeah,
but you know it's all it's all uh yeah, it's
out in the open now. I think. Also on that record,
he used one of Bunb's lyrics to um from U
g K. So you know, it's a technique, it's a style,
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it's something. It's jay Z. Jay Z's a super rapper,
like shit, you know, it ain't like he can't write rhyme.
If he doesn't he wants to. He just feels like
throwing some other flavor in there. I love Jakes. I
mean that's the spirit of hip hop. Like you gotta
take a little bit of this, a little bit of that,
and build something. Yeah, something new to it. Is there
anything that you have yet to accomplish that you want
(30:27):
to that's interesting, That's a really good question. Um. I
mean you've done everything, even fatherhood. Yeah, I mean you've
done fatherhood. But no, no, no, But I mean like
you're a new person now with you Dart like you absolutely, Yeah,
you're You're a new person. Your Muhammad Ali said when
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a man has a child in the second half of life,
after fifty's, it hits a reset button on his life.
And I've gotten healthy, I have a reason to live.
She's a whole new your right quest. It's a it's
a brand new life for me. Yeah, I gotta live forever.
I decided I'm not gonna die. I checked out my
my schedule. I'm booked till one hundred so and I
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ain't seen no funerals on this. So I've been around here.
I got some shit to do. I want to ask
you too, man yo. Cherryos Yeah, yeah, like Cherry all
the commercials because you know Carshield car shields cards go far.
And you know, I said, I was, I was, I
was watching Shack. It's official watching shock, and he said
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he had never spent money from the NBA, you know,
all endorsements. And I was like, fuck yeah, I need
some fucking endorsements, you know. So I called my manager.
I said I need it. I need a commercial agent.
They won't fuck with you. You the cop killer, it's
corporate America. I was like, yo, man, fuck that like
(31:57):
seeing somebody ah fuck with me. And the first commercial
I got was the Geico the iced tea reading signed
right and everybody brace for impact like there's gonna be
an outcry. But see, this is what's happened. The guards
have changed exactly. The people that are in charge now
are like forty eight year old CEOs. That's how we
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were able to do the Super Bowl. The people that
were so scared of emineminem are gone now and our
fans are in charge. But Ice. You don't want to
give some of that too to like Sergeant tu Tuola,
because Tutola has changed a lot of that too. Whatever
whatever has done it. I just think it's just that
the new people love us. They loved Snoop Dogg. They
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grew up with us, so there's no fear of us.
Right now. We have to put a Cereal out with
Ozzy Osbourne a bat Cereal and the and the parents
would think it's funny. The kids wouldn't get it, you know.
So so I get I start getting these commercials. I
get that, uh Tide calls me. Yeah, I'm like wash
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ice Cold wash Yeah, but it's gotta fit. Yeah, what
what do I got to do with that? They say,
Washington Ice Cold. I'm like, cool, Okay, stone Cold, Steve
Auson's in it. I'm in I'm I'm like stone Cold,
I'm in it. Seems like so cool that, like the
homie is just like I just happened to be watching
the commercial. My homie Ice Tea was doing it, Like
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is that real? That's mister Biggs, mister Old Sonic Force.
He's from New Yes, that's one of the ogs or
hip hop. Yes. And card Shield. The agent calls me.
They say, they know you got a lot of cards.
It's a warranty company. It's basically this, you know, would
you do it? I'm like, yeah, fuck that, Yeah, cool,
I do it. And I said they gave put insurance
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on some of my my other cards, like they're fuck
with like Mercedes Bands, Range Rover, they fucked with that.
So I got a card shield and I done. I done. Yeah,
Biggs called me up to you, man, I fucking card
shield because I'm see you on TV. You know, transmission
went out. Man, they fix that s it's official. I
was like, hold that thought. I called them. I said,
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I got a real testimonial from one of my homies.
Y'all got him out and they said we'll put him
in a commercial. So they put him in a commercial,
paid him and gave him lifetime card shields and Cheerios
was just I'm like, how do I fucking feel with Cherios?
You're older, you're in great shape, you're still touring. Cheerios
is for hearts want to be And I thought of
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a nigga like me on a Cheerios box, Like, like,
some of this shit honestly quests all this thing I'm
going through right now. My life is beyond my wildest
dreams getting a star, Like really all the reason shit
I did up in Hollywood, Like how many times I've
been laid flat on them damn stars? Like the shit
(34:53):
is crazy, man, But you know what it is, I'll
tell you it is. It's it's it's inspirational because you
can make a change in your life, and America loves
a comeback. They love a comeback. If you if if
you you could have been on drugs, you could have
been fucked up. But as long as you honestly got
your life straight, they will root for you. But don't
(35:19):
fuck up again because the large your ass like trash
because they rode for you the second time. Right, So
I'm on my best behave ice before you go. Can
I just ask one two two old a question? At least?
Like can I just I'm in my house. You got
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plenty of time. I'm just going hey, because some of
us have watched, like we are faithful and we have
watched your evolution and congratulations on being sergeant, and also
condolences my brother on losing your friend Richard Belzer. Yeah,
like we watch. We watched all together and even behind
the scenes, we watched your friendship. So wait a minute, Oh,
(36:00):
but weren't you responsible for I put it out there
that I wanted to be a dead body on the show.
One of y'all made it happen. I did, Thank you.
I forgot y'all. I'm a dead body on Law and Order. No,
we saw it, So okay, So my question is most
challenging storyline on SVU, but too too old for I see.
(36:23):
The requests came in from quests and then got on
the on the grid up there, and then the line
that of course I'm the black guy, so they go
Questlove wants to be on the show. What's he like?
That's how they always ask, like they don't they want
to bring someone on the show, but they don't want
it to be Prima Donna. He's extra. I say, he's
a great person. I mean, Yo, if you got a
(36:44):
chance to put quests on the show, Joe Bow so
I can't go, I co signed you because they don't
know they bring a nigga out there, nigga might wild out. Yo.
Snoop came up there and smoked the whole place out.
Yeah that's true. You just gotta know. So all right,
So back to my fan out question. Though it was
their most challenging storyline, I appreciate. I just want to
(37:08):
say how Utuola has became an amazing grandfather to his
gay son's husband's and the children and whatnot. But what
has been a challenging storyline for you in this journey?
Anything that does with children bothers me, you know, I mean,
I got a problem with, you know, pedophilia and all
that old, weird, old shit. I don't. I don't rock
(37:29):
with that. I don't. I don't think street cats fuck
with that. That's just real. You know you're not gonna
do well in prison with that. You know. You know
what the definition of pedophilia is. M. It means you're
into things that are preprovescent. M. That's nasty. That's nasty.
So anytime we're dealing with that kind of shit, I
(37:52):
personally got an issue with that shit. That's nasty to me.
And uh I got on that show and the storylines
are so crazy and so dark and so weird, but
they're real shit. It's real stuff. So um, I'll tell
you funny when like one season I come back and
they tell me you're getting married, I'm like, to who
(38:13):
like Phoebe? I'm like, who's Phoebe? That's the girl from
three seasons ago that wasn't going to hook up with you?
So when did we get together? Over COVID? The fans
know it, so I had to talk. It wasn't kind
of suffusing. Shout to Jennifer Esposito. I'm I'm mad. I
know everything that goes on in the show. But I'm
glad you Jennifer got engaged and we've let that rock
(38:36):
out the whole season. Then we didn't get married. But
do you get us saying like the direction that your
character goes not really? I mean, I'm I've learned to
add quests, so I don't really care where my character
goes as long as it doesn't die, you know, because
where it's like, okay, we gotta talk to you or
(38:56):
go to dinner. Like, how do you know if your
character is getting because not shot, you get shot, I
mean you get shot in the script and you see
your shots. Then you go like this, oh shit, okay, breathe,
I'm breathing on tape. Shit I survived at you know.
But um no, there's a producer or Lauren Order we
call the grim Reaper. If he takes to dinner, it's
(39:19):
a ra. So when you get taking to dinner, you
already know. Yeah, I'm I'm gangster with them. You know.
I signed up with Dick Wolf and I'm like his
ride or die. I've been on five shows with Dick Wolf, right,
so he understands. And I when I told them on
some real shit, I said if y'all gonna get rid
of me, give me six months advance so I could
(39:41):
book a tour or something. Just don't do me. Don't
just do me that. I deserve that, And now being
the longest running actor in television, they owe me that,
you know, you know, so I'm like, I'm good with them.
I told Dick Wolf straight up. I told him, I said,
I'm on the show to the wheels all off. You
know what I'm saying. I'm there. I don't have no
(40:04):
plans in leaving. And you know, all things come to
an end. We weren't getting ready to start to twenty
fifth season, and at some point it'll be over, and
then I'm just gonna go out and refall Samuel Jackson's parts.
Boys really going to be over. I think that show
is basically built to last. Well, as long as you are, Mariska,
(40:26):
to be honest, That's what I was warning. I was like,
you are, Mariska. I feel like, as long as y'all are,
there is there at least an outside of the show
a relationship between you and Mariska as well. Yeah. Yeah,
I told Mariska's point blank, I say, in my life,
I have three women. I have my two daughters and
my wife. But I've made more money with you, Marishka.
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So you've got to understand where you stand in my life.
Me and Marishka twenty five years. That's longer than you
went to high school college. Who you know that you like,
like Quest has been with Jimmy every day. When you
start doing the places where you're with somebody every day
for years and years and years and years, that's like,
(41:07):
I think I've had a longer consistent every day relationship
with Tariq than my my parents, like my family, anyone.
You've seen him more than all of them. Yeah, that's
why I said, And I thought about this, I see.
I was like, what does it ic feel like to
know that, like, he's been a cop longer than he's
been at MC. I mean, were you're always gonna be
at MC, but longer than you've been making records. I
(41:29):
put it that way. The thing is, I've been acting
like a cop. I'm not no motherfucking cop, that's right,
tell like a cop. But you know, the thing of
it is is that if if you hire if you
hire a street cat to play a cop, you get
more of an official cop because the cops it's really
(41:50):
are really thugs, right, you know? So the way they
handle theirselves. If you get a square he and he
acts like a cop. He acts like a rookie cop.
But as the cops get older, they pick up the lingo.
If you ever dealt with a DA you'll swear to
God you're talking to drug dealers. If you ever talk
to a mob cop, you'll swear to God you're talking
(42:11):
to somebody to mob. They pick up the lingo. So
Dick Wolf was like, if I cast Ice as a cop,
you get a cop with an interesting dynamic. When I'm
interrogating somebody, you you the viewer, feel like Ice about
to smack the shit out this nigga. LP. Yes, now
(42:31):
here's something for you. Acting like a cop and a
gangster are the exact same acting. It's both of you
got a gun, both of you got an attitude, and
both of you say if I don't get what I want,
there will be a consequence. So it's an ad it's
an energy that is gangster. But you just have a
(42:53):
bad same shit. So a lot of times when I'm acting,
I'm not thinking like a cop. I'm just like, yo, motherfucker,
you gonna do what I want you to do. I'm
gonna fucking fuck you up. I love watching that. I
just love watching you. I really do, I really do.
I just I think for your fans that we just
love an evolution, even where they where you are in
the police force. Now, beauty of it is for me
(43:15):
and LLL is that our fans have matured with us.
So you probably with us when we were wrapping, and
now you know you're you. You're not necessarily listening to
the hip hop like that anymore. But you've grown up
and your mother's and this, that and the third. But
we're still the people you grew up with. Yeah, our
(43:35):
fan base has matured with us, so that. But it's
also seeing y'all as whole men too, like seeing you show, feeling,
seeing you all the things. It's just beautiful to watch,
even if you are acting. But I know that when
you will on your house, some of that stuff goes
home too, some of me. Yeah, speaking of a home
and uh like your marriage, man, how did you make
(43:56):
that transition from being in the streets to you know,
going straight? Yeah? Yeah. The thing of it is is
that when a woman meets the right man, it's the
right time. When a man hits the right time, he'll
be ready for the right woman. Oh shit, yeah, that's sure.
So men we're kind of like no good up to
(44:16):
thirty five years old because we have to go through
the same thing they went through. See, women, they mature
earlier because at seventeen, if a girl's hot, she's in
the club, she's she's living the life we can't live. Yeah,
in the car with the forty year old niggas, right right,
I think about it. I didn't get in the bins
(44:37):
until I bought one, you know. So they mature, they
mature much faster because life opens for them earlier. When
you see all these girls in bikinis laid out on
the yacht. Them bitches don't own that yacht. They're on
this because take cute. We can't get on the yacht. Right,
(44:58):
So the life happens for the But here's the problem.
Here's the problem. When y'all is slowing down, we're just
taking off. Yeah at twenty seven, when the woman sees
thirty and she's like, I need to slow down and
figure it out. The guys just getting his bag and
so it's a stagger with us. So what happens is
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I had a girlfriend, Darlene, who was on my covers,
and me and her were like together for fifteen years.
But I never got married because I already knew what
kind of nigga I was, you know, still in you know, moving, Yeah,
I just becoming famous. Rule one, don't marry nobody. That's
just getting at the beginning of fame. Yeah, yeah, it's
(45:45):
you never it's it's an onslaughter pussy and you just
have to weather that shit. And you think, anyway, what
happens is when I met Coco, when I can make
a Coco, I was forty two years old and I
was done. I've been to the theme park, I've been
to everything, I've done this and now I was ready,
(46:06):
and you know, I needed to find somebody. And since
she had matured earlier, she had been running when she
was seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one, so when I
met her, she was kind of done. And and the
words of Pimp and Ken one damn bitches worth ten
funky hos, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
at some point I chose and and and fortunately it's
(46:28):
stuck like glue. We've been matter for twenty two years
and crazy man, it's beautiful. It was. It was just
it was just the right chick. You know. She she
liked me, and like when I met her, I had
on a red snakeskin suit. Oh you know I was.
(46:49):
I was on some players ship and a video. She's like, oh,
that's five let cocoa fund. What's she wrong? What about California? Okay, okay,
she could do that, Okay, but she but she liked this.
I'm too much for most girls. They like, they gave
me herded out of your work mouth is pimping ho
and bitches. And she's like, oh, oh top ten shit.
(47:12):
She liked she liked me. So I finally found a
woman that really accepted me right, and I liked her.
She was always you know, she's out there, you know,
borderline exhibitions. She likes showing herself. She's fun and I
dig it. She ain't right for everybody. So a lot
of times people would come to me and go, we'll
(47:32):
give me some advice as I can. I can tell
you how. I can tell you how to be married
to my wife. I can't tell you how to be
married to your wife. I know what it takes to
make her happy, but I don't know what you might
be dealing with. So but you know, we always say
men settle where they find peace. And my wife does
(47:53):
not argue, she doesn't raise her voice. She's very peaceful,
she's very nice and week and she has me happy,
has me wanting to stay in the house and play
video games. And she's enough for me. And uh, what
you play? What games? What games you want? What you'll
be on? Oh? Yeah, first person shooters? Oh okay, you
(48:16):
the shooters? Okay, gotcha? But um, you know one thing
about relationships, don't brag on them because you'll jinx yourself.
Oh god, you got a priest this word. Come on.
You know I'm in a good place. But I mean,
you know, you ever noticed, like when you watch basketball wives,
none of them are really the wives. Yes, because the
(48:38):
wives aren't doing no fucking interviews. The wives are happy,
they're in the mansion, they're doing great. They don't want
to talk. They're like x wives running their motherfucking mouse.
But go to somebody's wife and in life, don't talk.
I don't want to talk about it, so we'll just
I'll keep it quiet. Everything's good on the icy front.
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I love it. Wait time out, Steve do you remember
our fourth day at Fallon. I forget which writer ran
in to ask me. I forget the writer, but she
ran and says, I'm here. Do you know who iced
Tea is? And I was like, yeah, no iced Tea.
And they wanted me to broker, like I guess one
(49:23):
of the one of the Fallon writers had maybe Morgan
maybe I forget what it was, but like she had,
she had snarked a comment on Twitter, and they wanted
us to translate the roots, like what does this mean?
Like should I run out of state or should I
was like, no, it's I forget what your response was
(49:46):
what They were obviously not used to playing the dozens
or any of that sort of thing, and from it's
a Twitter though you know it's Twitter, It's like yo, whatever.
I was my fourth day of Foulon, literally, like I
(50:09):
just remember having to walk in the writer's room and
calm this person down, like, okay, right, exactly does not
mean it means eat a dick? All right? So whatever?
You know what, man, people they don't know how to
really respond to certain people. They don't know what's up.
(50:31):
They don't you know, people come over my house. They
expect to see people hanging off meat hooks and ship
understand because they pick up a persona from you. They
might just listen to my records. They might listen to
body count. They don't know who I am really you
somebody daddy like you a whole like do you know
me better than some they're They'll take a small thing
(50:53):
and my whole persona. You know what I'm saying, So
you know it is what it is, man, But you know,
let me do my shameless plug, please. I could check
on the daily game. The daily game was something that
I would do on Twitter because when I first got
on Twitter, I realized it was mob rules, and I said,
(51:15):
you have to get a crew. You got to get
people to fuck with you. So I needed something to
make you go back to my page. Because Twitter is
nothing but a chat room. It's a chat room. It's
going right now and talking back and forth and then
this million person a multimillion dollar million person chat room.
If you follow quest, that means I'm interested in what
(51:37):
he's saying versus everybody else. But if you have a
timeline with a thousand people, this tweet just shoots. So
the only way you really can make Twitter work is
if I go to your page, like, I'm gonna go
see what the Quest said today. So I crate up
this thing called The Daily Game and it's just jewels
I got from players, and uh, iHeartRadio dug them and said, hey,
(52:03):
why don't we turn this into a podcast. So the
podcast is iced Tea's Daily Game. It's on Spotify, and
every day I drop a jewel and then I break
it down like what the lady wanted Quest to do.
So you know shit like if it's if it feels
like you're going in circles, it's probably because you're cutting corners.
You understand me, you know, so that these are these
(52:26):
are little tidbits I got from different players and different people.
And I quote Aristotle, Socrates, all kinds of different people,
Tyler Perry, I quoted Jimmy. So anytime somebody says something,
I'm like, you know, we call it a jewel. Hold on,
(52:48):
So tune into the Daily Game. You can tune in
once a week and hear like five of them, and uh,
I did a year's worth. I recorded two hundred and
fifty of them. Took about four sessions, and four sessions,
uh six hour sessions, so twenty four hours yo. Before
we go. Man, you gotta talk about Chappelle show Hater's ball.
(53:11):
Come on, go on. You get a call from Dave Chappelle.
Certain niggas call you, you show up. You did what
I'm saying, Like I ca Quest called me, I'm gonna
show up. Certain people got that Dave Chappelle is one
of them cats. Right, So you get the call Dave
wants you to be in a skit. Hell yeah, I'm
in a skit. So they say it's the player haters ball.
(53:33):
Just wear something you'd wear to the players ball. Oh,
the red snakeskin suits. But I was glad that the
same the same one I had on when I knocked
Coco who that was a winner Chicken dinner, that was
that was a run. So I threw that on cloud
And then they get my hair on the set. They said,
don't do your hair. We're gonna curl your hair on
(53:55):
the set. And remember they had me sitting down there
talking shit what it was, and they just threw the
script at me and they just said you hosting. I'm like,
I'm hosting, and uh, they just said just get up there,
and they had a few things to say. And you know,
I invented that hate hate hate, because you go when
you go to the real players bar when they get
(54:17):
the awards, they say, pimp pimp, pimp pimp right, you know,
pim pimp, pim pimp porade. You know, so that's what
they do. So I just turned it into hate hate hate.
That was ad lib and uh it was legendary. And
recently I did a we did it where we were
a Game of Thrones and we showed back up and
we did the player haters showed up on the Game
(54:39):
of Thrones. Wow, skit me ashy Larry and I was
what was he called me? You got memories? Um Patris O'Neil.
He was in that skit rest in piece. Did jall
kind of go back and forth more than what was
on the air. It was wild, Nah, niggas talking crazy
the whole skit, Like, yeah, it was going back and
forth and those are comedians, so they bagging and uh,
(55:03):
you know when out of nowhere they're talking shit about me,
I said, next person time and stuff. I'm talking about
getting shot, believe you know. So we were just going
back and forth. My favorite one is I got to
go home and put some more milk and buck nasty
dish shit them. Oh yeah, that was yeah, like you
(55:25):
got the shark teeth say you don't like to shine,
but the nigga looks shotted at me, you know. As
one of my favorite sketches, bro I was. It was
one where you finally got to see cats just talk
shit the way we do and it was fun. And
you know, rest in peace, Patrese Charlie. You know it's cold, man,
(55:49):
those cats ain't with us, and it's legend, you know.
But you know, Dave Chappelle is that guy, like I said,
we did like I was light skinned, Larry Targarian and
the last skin you should have you seen that one.
I saw you do one, but I forgot what context
I saw it, and I don't know after we get
off go to YouTube and put player haters s and
(56:12):
now yeah, ok, yes that ship was wild. Yes, you
know I saw it. Anyway, man, I've just been fortunate,
you know, and and and you know, I'm as big
a fan as anybody else to be in this business.
You got to be a fan too, you know, it
(56:34):
ain't all about you. So I'm I'm I'm in all
a certain cats, and you know I don't have a
problem letting them know that, you know, So you know,
I'm just here for the ride. Man, here's a jewel
you ready? Yeah, all right? I see. You don't guide life,
you ride life. Nice tea ladies and gentlemen don't guide life.
(56:55):
You ride life. There's no way any of us would
ever imagine we would be where we are right now
today doing what we do. So you just got to
take the opportunities that they come and take it for
that ride. And you know, who the fuck thought I'd
be on television or on a quest love podcast, and
you know, all this stuff is just a part of
the ride, man. And who knows what toll happened next year? Man,
(57:18):
you know, so we're just gonna keep riding this ship.
Oh it's afraid of this. I just want to give
you all the us like, thank you, brother. You're a
beautiful woman, you recognize you know, as funny as cold man.
My boy Rich was like yo ice when you met Coco,
all you was really looking for was a bit to
understand what the fuck you was saying. That's it. That
(57:41):
understood what she's saying, man, And you know she does.
And God bless her for this, God bless you, and
and and and everybody on the podcast. Man go man.
The hate is so hate is so rabid right now,
you have to embrace the love. You gotta embrace it
because it's so when someone shows you love. Man, hold
(58:05):
on to that straight up. Now we love you broke
straight up, your legend and this ship man straight. Thank
you so on behalf of Unpaypal, Fantigolo, Sugar Steve and
l Yea this quest Love the Almighty the legendary Iced
Tea on Questlove Supreme. Well, thank you very much for
doing this and we will see you guys next go round.
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Of course, Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. What's up, y'all?
We're back with part two. Of course Love Supreme with
the legendary Ice Tea. Yep, Ice gave it so much
game we decided to make this a two part or so.
It makes sense, you know, because ICE's Daily Game is
a new podcast where he offers daily wisdom. Make sure
y'all check out part of one. We'll we talk about
Ices upbringing his music, and here's part two where I
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see to gives us a sample of that Daily Game.
All right? Of course Love Supreme Part two with the
legendary Ice Tea. How easy was it? And transitioning to acting,
like did it take long for Mario to convince you
to do New Jack City? You got great questions because
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first off, I'm not no motherfucking acting like I mean,
everybody looks at TV goes I wish I could do that,
But who has a chance to do it? You know?
So I've been in the breaking movies and the breaking movies.
I was called featured rap talker. How about that? Right?
They didn't even know what a rapper was? Right? So
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you heard the story about New Jack City? Well, I
know about George Jackson's coining the term, but please, please please.
I'm in a toilet stall in a club and some
niggas is talking shit to me in the toilet, I'm
taking a shit. I'm sitting there, and motherfucker's was like,
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ice you cold man, you'll be telling this that. I say,
your player. The problem is that they could take a
microscope and find one molecule in my body that gave
a fuck, then they'd have a chance. But there's not one.
And so Mario overhears that and says, whoever said that?
If are my movie? Whoever said that? And it was me.
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So I'm in the club campaigning to three girls, right,
I'm I'm talking this ship to these chicks, and Mario
comes up with the Hollywood bullshit. I'm producing a movie.
I want you to be in it. I'm like that
some bullshit like you trying to let these girls know
you're a producer. Yeah, Mario don't. Yeah, but I knew quest.
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You know the Hollywood bullshit when somebody walks up in
the middle of your conversation with somebody, Hey, we should
work like shut the fuck up, like you can find
me if you want to work like this is so stage.
So I'm like, okay, ladies, this is Mario Van People's
Dotty Dotty. But he wasn't lying, so he hands me
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a card. So he calls me call Warner Brothers tomorrow.
So I call it. They say come up here and blow.
I come on this. I come through the gates. I
get there and they show me the script. They want
you to play Scottie. I read that shit quest. I
was like, yo, this is all the words, like I
thought it was a cameo. Nah, nah, this is a star.
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I'm like, I can't act, Yes, you can. I keep
reading this. Niggas the Police, Yeah yeah, I got an
album coming out called Original Gangster. You Wann't play Police?
Wait a minute? Hoh whad he got dreads? I got
a firm like everything. So I'm just totally like, na, no,
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I can't do this. But then I talked to people
and they were like, man, if you fuck up this.
Back at the Beauty Parliament where I got most of
my game, I had this hairdresser named Pearl and she said,
you niggas running around here talking about no opportunities, no opportunities,
and here's one, and you're gonna turn this down if
you turn this down, you're a real live sucker, because
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this is a great opportunity. Niggas know you ain't the police, nigga,
you better go up in there and do that gig
and then I'll talk to my boys. They're like I said, man,
they want me to play the police, and niggas be like,
word can, I'll be in the movie. That's all they
So I did the movie, and I was scared shitless
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that it was going to end my career because at
that time, no rapper had taken a dramatic role. Yet
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold hold on, hold on,
hold on, No, he's right, he is right Smith. The
only thing run DMC did tougher than leather and all
that old ship acting like somebody else does not. Nobody
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was the first. I told you, I'm on my first ship.
Usually the first one who's the pioneer never gets the
just desserts that the person that comes behind them does.
So that is risky that you want to be first.
But I always see history as the second person that
masters it. But I did it, POC did it. Everybody
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started doing it back in the day when when being
a rapper like you want to act like you was
betraying the culture, like you. It wasn't. It just wasn't.
At that time, rappers wasn't even owning their own label.
It was like rappers were very in its own zone.
So they got me, They got Chris Rock, who is
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the newest underground. You know. Kat Wesley had only done
two movies, Major League and a Spike Lee flot so
they didn't trip off this. They didn't have enough black
actors to make the movie. Now we could do Black Panther.
There were not enough young black actors that had any
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potential to pull a crowd. So they said iced tea
selling millions of records, right, you know, and Alan Payne
and Vanessa Williams couldn't have done it alone, right, Astley Wesley.
So they used the power of the rapping Me and
Chris being hot on the street, George Jackson and Doug McKenny.
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They put us in the row, and uh, the shit
popped off. I was scared as fuck. The movie made
eighty seven million dollars. I got paid twenty five thousand dollars. Wow.
So by the time you get the trespass and surviving
the game and surviving again, Yeah, that's my favorite Ice
Team movie that's surriving game is the one about this
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the second movie with Ricochet with Denze Can I ask
how how is Hollywood? Because the thing is now it's
nothing for rappers like for people to pivot into other
areas and other mediums. But how's the reception to you
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coming into their territory? Hollywood? Simple? If if the movie
you're in makes money, you're gonna be in another movie.
That's his Hollywood. It's like his money. It's pimpant. If
this whole can make me some money here, maybe you
can make me some money there. They don't. They don't care.
You know. Uh, they can't really tell what great acting is.
They can tell what the fan response is, so they
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that works cool. So you know, New Jack City was
a hit in comes some scripts. Let's see if he
could do it again. So I walked into Joe Silver's office,
one of the biggest producers, and I said, okay, New
Jack City. They fucked me right, but I know I'm
about to get paid. I'm with Denzel's about to get
paid that. The motherfucker looked at me and said, Ice Tea,
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You've done one movie. So I bent over and took
it again I got for for for Ricochet, I got
twice what I got for New Jack City, and I
didn't work as much. My pay day didn't come till
I did Tank Girl where I played the roup lo
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Where was that in the Surviving the game? Trustpad, I'm
trying to remember tank I'm where it was and it
was tank Girl Surviving the Game. Then I Girl did
Johnny Knewmonic with Keanu Reeves, and then I did I
was doing Johnny Numonic with Keanu Reeves and they called me,
they say, will you play a stripper in Arizona. I'm like,
hell yeah, this is my chance to hella what it
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looked like. I was on slow. You've seen a riginal
gangster posters, so I was on my bullshit. So that
night I did like a thousand crunches. I'm like, I'm
about to let these ladies know what's happening. Right. So
the next day they sent me a picture of a kangaroo.
I'm like, what the fuck am I stripper? Like? I
opened my pouch like, what the fuck is this? And
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they know it's a ripper. It's a kangaroo. And the
movie's called tank Girl, right because you played a mixture. Yeah,
you was a right. You gotta understand. I'm with Keanu
Reeves doing a big motion picture. Now they're telling me
to do something called tank Girl as a kangaroo. Ye, Like,
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can y'all at your motherfucking mind? Like what's really good?
And then they told me how much I was gonna
get and uh, I was hopping around the hotel, you know,
because they're like, when you sell out? I see, selling
out is when something is totally against your beliefs, right
when they can make you be quiet. I have nothing
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against fucking kangaroos. I have nothing at all against them.
So I was like, fuck this, I'll be a motherfuck
kangaroo and I got a bag for that. That's the
first mill plus role. I'll say that. You know, America's
now just adapted to festival lifestyle, but you know, you're
a pioneer and the fact that you were one of
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the very first acts on Lallapalooza, which is really America's
first true I mean, I mean, besides you know, farm
Aide or you know whatever, but what was that the
experience of Lollapaluza, Like especially that first year where all
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this stuff was brand new to American culture. There's always
a story behind Ice t Ship. But I like people
to know so they can get a true understanding how
this game is, because it's not as simple as that.
Ernie body Count was now just starting. We were we
were playing like pizza joints and just getting getting a
vibe for what this band was. And Ernie had met
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Perry Farrell. Right, Harry Carroll was doing a video called
The Gift where he wanted someone to sing Nigga Whitey
with him. Slides sone shit, yeah right. So Ernie says,
Iced Tea, Iced Tea's hardcore. This is the perfect person.
So I come to the video shoot. I know the song.
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I got no problem singing it with him, and we
sang nigga Whitey backup, gonna call me nigga Whitey, Don't
call me whitey nigga. So we doing this shit. So
after we did the video, he says, Ice, I'm about
to do a tour called Lollapalooza. It's gonna have butthole Surfers,
Rollins band. He was naming bands he wanted to get
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and he said, I want to take a rapper out,
would you like to go? I'm like, hell, yeah, hell yeah.
So what happened was I had an hour set fifty
five minutes set, and then they said you could do
whatever you want, and I split the set and I
did half iced tea half body Count. That's where I
introduced body Count to the world. And after I would
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do my rap set, I said, now I'm about to
prove to you that rock and roll has nothing to
do with color. It's a state of mind. And we
turned the guitars up and blow and that was it.
You ain't want to remind them rock and rolls aren't
some gonna jump anyway. So well, you know, hip hop
is rock, whether people want to claim it or not.
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You don't aren't be the mic. We rocked the mic,
We rocked the house. Rock. See, pop is when you
sing what everybody wants to hear. This is what I
learned this from Quincy Jones. Pop is easy to do.
Sing what people want to hear. Go to school, love
your mother, Da da da. That's pop. Be popular. Rock
is fuck that. I'm gonna do this shit my fucking way.
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That's rock. Now, whether you do that with pianos, whether
you do that with guitars, or you do that with
a mic. Or some drums. Hip hop is rock period,
all right. I know, I know you've been asked a
trillion times about the cop killer incident, but why no, No,
I know, but you know, I also feel like that
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doesn't define you, especially now. But you know, you know
what it is though. You only get stripes for fighting battles,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm very proud of
my battles, you know, because that was a moment where
I could have got taken out, you know, like not
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even just my career. They were trying to get rid
of a nigga, you know. That's what I want to know, Like,
how serious? How rare did he get? The worst ship
was bomb threats to Warner Brothers where they had to
clear the building on several occasions, or what they were
threatening to blow up Warner Brothers and they had to
clear the build holding on several occasions on account of
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me because they were getting bomb threats. Yeah, it got heavy.
Um who's threatening because we're talking about the authority, So
who is the threat? That's an interesting part. This is
something you gotta understand with beef. If you create beef,
you might not have problems with the people you're beefing
with you have a problem with outside of let's say hypothetically,
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I gotten a beef with let's say method man, who's
one of my good friends. I ain't gotta worry about
running the meth. I could run into some wu tang things.
I could run into somebody who who who loves him
at a restaurant. I could run into some girls that
fuck you ice. It can happen. So when you just
the cops, you can run into somebody whose brothers a cop,
an X cop, somebody who's just you set up energy
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of beef out there. You don't know where it's gonna
You never just beefing with one person, Yeah right, you're
beefing with their fans, right every fucking so I was,
you know when we did cop Killer and they made
it a big thing by it becoming so public, it
gave more people a chance to dislike me. You know,
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it wasn't a small thing. It went national. Now you
gotta understand its levels of news, Like all this shit's
on the black blogs, that's nigga news. That's that news.
You you ain't gonna know about that, But when it
makes it to CNN, that's national news. Follow what I'm saying.
So a lot of this I gotta do it. I
gotta do a parallel, folks. It's kind of like, well, Kerann,
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I gotta do the white parallel because we can't just
do nigga news. We gotta do cracker news too. So yeah,
I just yeah, okay, I got you though. But the
certain blogs that we listened to, yes, right, yes, if
you talk to somebody in the mainstream, they have no
idea that such and such as beat or they don't
know about that stuff. TMZ starting to leak a little
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bit of our business out there. But you who's cheating
on who? They don't care that makes money? Right? National
news is coming on right after the war, and uh,
you know Ukraine, Warren Roukane, now I see you and
Warner Brothers. This is now. Now you're in front of
the world. This is big shit. So you gotta know,
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like a lot of the stuff that we take as
big isn't really that big. It's kind of like cultural,
you know, and it hasn't really made it to the
to the main stream. This ship was big. The President
was on my bumper, you know, we were let me
date myself. We were playing techno bowl quest and my
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boy comes downstairs, like, yo, the president is on TV
talking about ice and we ran upstairs and Quail so
the ice to you. So Quail's like ice to you,
And all the homies in the house was like, oh shit,
oh shit, oh shit. See, very few people will ever
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have a living president say their name and anger. That's
saved for like terrorists and been laden and shit like that.
When the president is mad at you, fuck the police,
you have the United States government on your bumper. I
got tax audited twice that year. I had ice cream
trucks sitting in front of my house in the middle
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of the winter. These motherfuckers is on you. They're trying
because when a president says questlove, this guy's a problem.
All the FBI, DA, all of them do background checks
because the next question could be what do we know
about him? They can't say he plays on Tonight Show,
he's a drumming, his shoe size, is this, his blood type?
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Is this? This happens? When that happens, you feel it.
You feel the government looking you up and down to
try to find out because they had to check and seat.
Was I really trying to make a call to arms?
Was I telling people go kill the cops in my problem,
which I was, and I was just making a record.
Oh wait, did you did you feel vindicated because Rodney
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King happens a year later? No, they blamed Rodney King
on me. They spun it to make it seem like
I made that record because of Rodney King. I got
caught in a big It was a it was a
political year of the Paternal Order of Police out of Texas.
Spun it. They spun it and made it seem like
I caused the riots. They they they was on a bullshit.
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They had a big machine. But see here's the trip.
They weren't really mad at me. They were mad at
Warner Brothers because they were like, Okay, we understand iced
Tea should be mad, but why White company give him
the platform to say this? And that became the death
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of Warner Brothers. You gotta remember when I did that.
Warner Brothers had Prince, Warner Brothers had Slayer, they had
the Ghetto Boys, they had Sam Kenniston, they had anything
that was edgy. And that ended, and and and and
when the last thing was when they dropped the deal
with Interscope, when that was all happening, when Ted Turner
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came in. Warner Brothers had to separate from anything controversial,
costing me. I started to wow. But for a second,
did it feel like your bag was about to stop
in terms of like people were not take were you
losing roles? Where you? Yah? New Jack City Part two?
So there was going to be a sequel? Yeah? I
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didn't know that, me neither, but Nino lived. Well wait,
you knew this about? Yeah? I saw, I saw George
Jackson and they they did an interview. This was years ago,
but they mentioned it then, but it never But what
happened was Wesley went off and he did Demolition Man
and made seven million, and you know, I was in trouble.
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So now they can't hit Wesley's number because the whole
movie knew Jack was made for five million. Everything happened,
but now you know I got You know what happened though,
It's like when you get in some shit like this.
I never pointed in any other rappers. I never pointed
in any other rock groups because I'm like, Yo, this
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is my heat, and you know, to me, that's kind
of like like snitching. It's kind of like, Yo, you
got caught, nigga, handle your business. Take it. This is
your ship, so you never seen nice? But what about
this group or what about now? I'm like, okay, you
on me, let's go fuck it. But the way they
came at me, I didn't know if I was gonna survive,
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you know what I'm saying. But I just had to
stand my ground and I and I remember I met
with Minister Farkhan at Honorable Elijah Muhammad's house and in
all honestly, he just told me, he said, yet what
you did wasn't subtle. If you stand in the street,
expect to get hit by car. So I had to
learn that we have freedom of speech, but watch what
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you say and you have I had the right to
sing cop killer, but they also had the right to attack.
So anything you say, prepare for the ramifications of what
you say. And I was not prepared for the ramifications.
I was just singing some shit and I wasn't ready
for them to attack. So that's a lesson. You know,
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you could say anything. We all have the right to
say anything, but you also gotta be if you say
something anti gay, be prepared. You did what I'm saying,
if I mentioned any rapper's name, be prepared. So just
gonna be reckless talking and shit and think there won't
be no smoke, you know, And if I do say it,
I should be ready for that smoke, you know. If
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I'm Colin pack Happernick and I dropped down and I'm
gonna hop pull a kneel, I gotta know that NFL
is gonna make a move on me, and I gotta
be strong enough to handle that. Or I shouldn't do it.
They don't do it, you know, So don't don't protest
and get fired. And now because you got fired, because
to protest you gotta you gotta be prepared for the hits.
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There's gonna be a hit back, or you're not really
protesting nothing. So I had to drop some gyms there
for us. I wanted to ask about the Home Invasion
record because that one came on Priority. Um what led
to that change from Warner to Prity because after Cop Killer,
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Warner was scared to put my records out. So what
happened was I came in with Home Invasion because now
I'm consecutive. I had every record I put out with
Gold and a power term Platinum. I'm hot over there.
But they just went through some shit. Body count itself
now if so, it's so gold twice. It went gold
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with cop Killer and went gold without cop Killer on it.
I'm making money over there for them. And I came
in and they had my lyrics written on these big boards.
They wrote it out. They was and uh, I had
some foulet. I had this one rhyme in G style
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where I say I give a fuck about a cop
or a G man. They all talk shit, They're breath
smelling like seamen. I catch them in the alley all alone.
Put him in the prone pop pop pop to the dome.
So I'm still killing cops, right, I'm sorry, you know
that's that's what I do. So they pull this lyric out,
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that lyric out, this lyric out, and I was just like,
you know what, can I go? You as to go? Yeah?
I said, can I go? Because now I'm in a
difficult place. They never a and R at any of
my music. It was just good go body. Counter put
out an album called cop Killer. I love it over there.
I'm in a great play, but now should change. So
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Home Invasion was coming right after cop Killer, so they
let me go. Was Benny Medina part of any of
these meetings Benny Medina was the A and R guy
back in the day, but he never A and RM
me because he was Warner, not uh not sire. Benny
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was a good cat up there. He did the uptown thing.
And Benny was always a friend of mine, and he
was cool with me. Okay, but I'm dealing with Moe
Austen and Lenny Warnaker. I'm dealing with the top guys,
and they were They really didn't want me to go,
but they were. It was kind of like it was
a fucked up situation. I was getting them in trouble
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and I'll never forget they would like, as soon as
we allow them to censor you, we're up here, We're
up shit Creek and and and Warner stayed down with me,
even um Gerald Levin wrote a big thing in the
in the Wall Street Journal, the CEO of Time Warner
backing me up. And I just felt like, it's kind
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of like me and you were friends question and I'm
getting you in trouble, man, And I'm just like looking, no, no,
I'm just gonna bail man. I got because I gotta
still do me. I got, I gotta It's like Dave Chappelle,
I gotta go because I gotta I gotta do me
because my career is based on my integrity and I
can't have y'all sensor and my shit. So I'd go
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to priority. Brian Turner did NWA and all them. They
were still opening wide and they were ready and they
took the record. But I'll tell you what Warner did
and nobody knows this. They didn't charge me for the album.
So normally, let's say they gave me half a million
dollars to make that album. That was a lot of
money back in the days. Now people are getting threes
and five millions to make records. But any half a million,
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I didn't have to recoup it. They let you keep
your tapes and just go to Yeah, So that was
that was fly. They didn't say, hey, you could take
this album, but we gotta get the money back. They
just let me have it. So I took it over there,
and um, I was fighting with the source, and you know,
the source was talking shit because they yeah, they said
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I folded. They were like ice gave in, and you know,
and Chuck kept me saying because Chuck d said those
that aren't in the war should never come in on
the battles they don't and what the fuck is really
going on in here? Yes, that's why. On the record
you like Home Invasion, the first song is called It's On.
And that's why I was like, Yo, we can't take
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any cut off the products. You know what we're gonna do.
I I still got soldiers, you know, turn up to
Mike Dog so I can go off. Find me Charlton
Heston and I might cut his head off. You know,
I'm not to be fucked with. I was on my bullshit.
I was mad, you know, and you know I say, uh,
worst magazine. You're the first one you tried to disc
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Chuck Cuban me how to fuck you? Pick us three?
You pump motherfuckers. Ain't shit. You just a bunch of
holes making money off the pros. And when I see
you get you in my sights, I'll give you as
a story to write. It's On. So I remember how
how shocking was it for you? Some like nineteen years later,
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the sort of live through ninety nine problems now becoming
you know, kind of an anthem. I trust that you're
one of the publishers of ninety nine problems. Yeah, and
you know what it is quest Now everybody's trying to
turn that into beef. It ain't beef. It's it's no,
it's no beef. It's a story, and the story I
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never knew there was beef. I thought he credit I
thought he sampled you or covering the song. The new
podcast people like to take clips of what you say
and then switched. It looked like jay Z stole the song. No,
he cleared it. Can't do that. Did. Chris rock Ever
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tells that story on his episode nine nine. Problems come
from Brother Marquise, Right, and Brother Marquise was at my
house and he was talking about whoop there it is?
You know where that record comes from the original one
from Tag Team? That's the canoe. I'm ready. It was
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all right. Tag Team was the where the DJ's in
Magic City? Okay, And when the girls been over, they say,
and you've seen it, they say, whoop there it is.
That's where it came from. Okay, that's where it came from.
When you could see the coach who it is? They
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turned that into the song. So Marquis is sitting in
my house and he's like, man, all the nights I
sat in Magic City and they saying that shit nigga.
That was the phrase. It pays man. So he's talking.
Then out of nowhere, he said, man, I got nine
nine problems. A bitch ain't one though, and he said it.
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I said, that's a song. So I made the song.
You know, I gotta hold from the East, I gotta
hold from the West. I gotta hope from Alabama with
a pussy in the chest. So I'm saying, so I
make the record. And then Marquise did a verse right fun.
It was on Home Invasion. Those icy fans knew it.
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The legend goes Chris Rock was in the studio with
Rick Rubin when and they had Jay coming in and
they brought that song up to be remade. The song
was remade. They paid publishing publishing with M I had
a deal with I think Universal Publish A point seen
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money gone. That was it. That's how it happened. So
I'm at the Grammys, jay Z walks up to me.
He's like, Iice you know, I love you, man, I
love you because I met Jay way back with Big
Daddy King brought him through back in the day when
he was with Jazzo, right, So I got love for
jay Z. I'm you know, so Jay's like, you know,
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they say, man, I'm like, dude, I'm not mad. This
is the press they pushing this shit like that. It's
like you know what. And so I was talking to
him and I was like, well, Jay, you know, you
know you did the record, but at the end of
the record, you could have said, I you know, like
my nigga like yeah, but you know we laughed it
off and stuff. But yo, I mean, you know it's
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what it is. It's hip hop. Look, I just told
you I was influenced by ye think about that, like
everybody don't automatically do what you do that way. Yeah,
but you know it's all it's all uh yeah, it's
out in the open now. I think. Also on that record,
he used one of Bunb's lyrics to um from U
g K. So you know, it's a technique, it's a style,
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it's something. It's jay Z. Jay Z's a super rapper,
like shit, you know, it ain't like he can't write rhyme.
If he doesn't he wants to. He just feels like
throwing some other flavor in there. I love Jakes. I
mean that's the spirit of hip hop. Like you gotta
take a little bit of this, a little bit of that,
and build something. Yeah, something new to it. Is there
anything that you have yet to accomplish that you want
(30:27):
to that's interesting, That's a really good question. Um. I
mean you've done everything, even fatherhood. Yeah, I mean you've
done fatherhood. But no, no, no, But I mean like
you're a new person now with you Dart like you absolutely, Yeah,
you're You're a new person. Your Muhammad Ali said when
(30:50):
a man has a child in the second half of life,
after fifty's, it hits a reset button on his life.
And I've gotten healthy, I have a reason to live.
She's a whole new your right quest. It's a it's
a brand new life for me. Yeah, I gotta live forever.
I decided I'm not gonna die. I checked out my
my schedule. I'm booked till one hundred so and I
(31:11):
ain't seen no funerals on this. So I've been around here.
I got some shit to do. I want to ask
you too, man yo. Cherryos Yeah, yeah, like Cherry all
the commercials because you know Carshield car shields cards go far.
And you know, I said, I was, I was, I
was watching Shack. It's official watching shock, and he said
(31:34):
he had never spent money from the NBA, you know,
all endorsements. And I was like, fuck yeah, I need
some fucking endorsements, you know. So I called my manager.
I said I need it. I need a commercial agent.
They won't fuck with you. You the cop killer, it's
corporate America. I was like, yo, man, fuck that like
(31:57):
seeing somebody ah fuck with me. And the first commercial
I got was the Geico the iced tea reading signed
right and everybody brace for impact like there's gonna be
an outcry. But see, this is what's happened. The guards
have changed exactly. The people that are in charge now
are like forty eight year old CEOs. That's how we
(32:20):
were able to do the Super Bowl. The people that
were so scared of emineminem are gone now and our
fans are in charge. But Ice. You don't want to
give some of that too to like Sergeant tu Tuola,
because Tutola has changed a lot of that too. Whatever
whatever has done it. I just think it's just that
the new people love us. They loved Snoop Dogg. They
(32:42):
grew up with us, so there's no fear of us.
Right now. We have to put a Cereal out with
Ozzy Osbourne a bat Cereal and the and the parents
would think it's funny. The kids wouldn't get it, you know.
So so I get I start getting these commercials. I
get that, uh Tide calls me. Yeah, I'm like wash
(33:04):
ice Cold wash Yeah, but it's gotta fit. Yeah, what
what do I got to do with that? They say,
Washington Ice Cold. I'm like, cool, Okay, stone Cold, Steve
Auson's in it. I'm in I'm I'm like stone Cold,
I'm in it. Seems like so cool that, like the
homie is just like I just happened to be watching
the commercial. My homie Ice Tea was doing it, Like
(33:25):
is that real? That's mister Biggs, mister Old Sonic Force.
He's from New Yes, that's one of the ogs or
hip hop. Yes. And card Shield. The agent calls me.
They say, they know you got a lot of cards.
It's a warranty company. It's basically this, you know, would
you do it? I'm like, yeah, fuck that, Yeah, cool,
I do it. And I said they gave put insurance
(33:47):
on some of my my other cards, like they're fuck
with like Mercedes Bands, Range Rover, they fucked with that.
So I got a card shield and I done. I done. Yeah,
Biggs called me up to you, man, I fucking card
shield because I'm see you on TV. You know, transmission
went out. Man, they fix that s it's official. I
was like, hold that thought. I called them. I said,
(34:09):
I got a real testimonial from one of my homies.
Y'all got him out and they said we'll put him
in a commercial. So they put him in a commercial,
paid him and gave him lifetime card shields and Cheerios
was just I'm like, how do I fucking feel with Cherios?
You're older, you're in great shape, you're still touring. Cheerios
is for hearts want to be And I thought of
(34:31):
a nigga like me on a Cheerios box, Like, like,
some of this shit honestly quests all this thing I'm
going through right now. My life is beyond my wildest
dreams getting a star, Like really all the reason shit
I did up in Hollywood, Like how many times I've
been laid flat on them damn stars? Like the shit
(34:53):
is crazy, man, But you know what it is, I'll
tell you it is. It's it's it's inspirational because you
can make a change in your life, and America loves
a comeback. They love a comeback. If you if if
you you could have been on drugs, you could have
been fucked up. But as long as you honestly got
your life straight, they will root for you. But don't
(35:19):
fuck up again because the large your ass like trash
because they rode for you the second time. Right, So
I'm on my best behave ice before you go. Can
I just ask one two two old a question? At least?
Like can I just I'm in my house. You got
(35:39):
plenty of time. I'm just going hey, because some of
us have watched, like we are faithful and we have
watched your evolution and congratulations on being sergeant, and also
condolences my brother on losing your friend Richard Belzer. Yeah,
like we watch. We watched all together and even behind
the scenes, we watched your friendship. So wait a minute, Oh,
(36:00):
but weren't you responsible for I put it out there
that I wanted to be a dead body on the show.
One of y'all made it happen. I did, Thank you.
I forgot y'all. I'm a dead body on Law and Order. No,
we saw it, So okay, So my question is most
challenging storyline on SVU, but too too old for I see.
(36:23):
The requests came in from quests and then got on
the on the grid up there, and then the line
that of course I'm the black guy, so they go
Questlove wants to be on the show. What's he like?
That's how they always ask, like they don't they want
to bring someone on the show, but they don't want
it to be Prima Donna. He's extra. I say, he's
a great person. I mean, Yo, if you got a
(36:44):
chance to put quests on the show, Joe Bow so
I can't go, I co signed you because they don't
know they bring a nigga out there, nigga might wild out. Yo.
Snoop came up there and smoked the whole place out.
Yeah that's true. You just gotta know. So all right,
So back to my fan out question. Though it was
their most challenging storyline, I appreciate. I just want to
(37:08):
say how Utuola has became an amazing grandfather to his
gay son's husband's and the children and whatnot. But what
has been a challenging storyline for you in this journey?
Anything that does with children bothers me, you know, I mean,
I got a problem with, you know, pedophilia and all
that old, weird, old shit. I don't. I don't rock
(37:29):
with that. I don't. I don't think street cats fuck
with that. That's just real. You know you're not gonna
do well in prison with that. You know. You know
what the definition of pedophilia is. M. It means you're
into things that are preprovescent. M. That's nasty. That's nasty.
So anytime we're dealing with that kind of shit, I
(37:52):
personally got an issue with that shit. That's nasty to me.
And uh I got on that show and the storylines
are so crazy and so dark and so weird, but
they're real shit. It's real stuff. So um, I'll tell
you funny when like one season I come back and
they tell me you're getting married, I'm like, to who
(38:13):
like Phoebe? I'm like, who's Phoebe? That's the girl from
three seasons ago that wasn't going to hook up with you?
So when did we get together? Over COVID? The fans
know it, so I had to talk. It wasn't kind
of suffusing. Shout to Jennifer Esposito. I'm I'm mad. I
know everything that goes on in the show. But I'm
glad you Jennifer got engaged and we've let that rock
(38:36):
out the whole season. Then we didn't get married. But
do you get us saying like the direction that your
character goes not really? I mean, I'm I've learned to
add quests, so I don't really care where my character
goes as long as it doesn't die, you know, because
where it's like, okay, we gotta talk to you or
(38:56):
go to dinner. Like, how do you know if your
character is getting because not shot, you get shot, I
mean you get shot in the script and you see
your shots. Then you go like this, oh shit, okay, breathe,
I'm breathing on tape. Shit I survived at you know.
But um no, there's a producer or Lauren Order we
call the grim Reaper. If he takes to dinner, it's
(39:19):
a ra. So when you get taking to dinner, you
already know. Yeah, I'm I'm gangster with them. You know.
I signed up with Dick Wolf and I'm like his
ride or die. I've been on five shows with Dick Wolf, right,
so he understands. And I when I told them on
some real shit, I said if y'all gonna get rid
of me, give me six months advance so I could
(39:41):
book a tour or something. Just don't do me. Don't
just do me that. I deserve that, And now being
the longest running actor in television, they owe me that,
you know, you know, so I'm like, I'm good with them.
I told Dick Wolf straight up. I told him, I said,
I'm on the show to the wheels all off. You
know what I'm saying. I'm there. I don't have no
(40:04):
plans in leaving. And you know, all things come to
an end. We weren't getting ready to start to twenty
fifth season, and at some point it'll be over, and
then I'm just gonna go out and refall Samuel Jackson's parts.
Boys really going to be over. I think that show
is basically built to last. Well, as long as you are, Mariska,
(40:26):
to be honest, That's what I was warning. I was like,
you are, Mariska. I feel like, as long as y'all are,
there is there at least an outside of the show
a relationship between you and Mariska as well. Yeah. Yeah,
I told Mariska's point blank, I say, in my life,
I have three women. I have my two daughters and
my wife. But I've made more money with you, Marishka.
(40:46):
So you've got to understand where you stand in my life.
Me and Marishka twenty five years. That's longer than you
went to high school college. Who you know that you like,
like Quest has been with Jimmy every day. When you
start doing the places where you're with somebody every day
for years and years and years and years, that's like,
(41:07):
I think I've had a longer consistent every day relationship
with Tariq than my my parents, like my family, anyone.
You've seen him more than all of them. Yeah, that's
why I said, And I thought about this, I see.
I was like, what does it ic feel like to
know that, like, he's been a cop longer than he's
been at MC. I mean, were you're always gonna be
at MC, but longer than you've been making records. I
(41:29):
put it that way. The thing is, I've been acting
like a cop. I'm not no motherfucking cop, that's right,
tell like a cop. But you know, the thing of
it is is that if if you hire if you
hire a street cat to play a cop, you get
more of an official cop because the cops it's really
(41:50):
are really thugs, right, you know? So the way they
handle theirselves. If you get a square he and he
acts like a cop. He acts like a rookie cop.
But as the cops get older, they pick up the lingo.
If you ever dealt with a DA you'll swear to
God you're talking to drug dealers. If you ever talk
to a mob cop, you'll swear to God you're talking
(42:11):
to somebody to mob. They pick up the lingo. So
Dick Wolf was like, if I cast Ice as a cop,
you get a cop with an interesting dynamic. When I'm
interrogating somebody, you you the viewer, feel like Ice about
to smack the shit out this nigga. LP. Yes, now
(42:31):
here's something for you. Acting like a cop and a
gangster are the exact same acting. It's both of you
got a gun, both of you got an attitude, and
both of you say if I don't get what I want,
there will be a consequence. So it's an ad it's
an energy that is gangster. But you just have a
(42:53):
bad same shit. So a lot of times when I'm acting,
I'm not thinking like a cop. I'm just like, yo, motherfucker,
you gonna do what I want you to do. I'm
gonna fucking fuck you up. I love watching that. I
just love watching you. I really do, I really do.
I just I think for your fans that we just
love an evolution, even where they where you are in
the police force. Now, beauty of it is for me
(43:15):
and LLL is that our fans have matured with us.
So you probably with us when we were wrapping, and
now you know you're you. You're not necessarily listening to
the hip hop like that anymore. But you've grown up
and your mother's and this, that and the third. But
we're still the people you grew up with. Yeah, our
(43:35):
fan base has matured with us, so that. But it's
also seeing y'all as whole men too, like seeing you show, feeling,
seeing you all the things. It's just beautiful to watch,
even if you are acting. But I know that when
you will on your house, some of that stuff goes
home too, some of me. Yeah, speaking of a home
and uh like your marriage, man, how did you make
(43:56):
that transition from being in the streets to you know,
going straight? Yeah? Yeah. The thing of it is is
that when a woman meets the right man, it's the
right time. When a man hits the right time, he'll
be ready for the right woman. Oh shit, yeah, that's sure.
So men we're kind of like no good up to
(44:16):
thirty five years old because we have to go through
the same thing they went through. See, women, they mature
earlier because at seventeen, if a girl's hot, she's in
the club, she's she's living the life we can't live. Yeah,
in the car with the forty year old niggas, right right,
I think about it. I didn't get in the bins
(44:37):
until I bought one, you know. So they mature, they
mature much faster because life opens for them earlier. When
you see all these girls in bikinis laid out on
the yacht. Them bitches don't own that yacht. They're on
this because take cute. We can't get on the yacht. Right,
(44:58):
So the life happens for the But here's the problem.
Here's the problem. When y'all is slowing down, we're just
taking off. Yeah at twenty seven, when the woman sees
thirty and she's like, I need to slow down and
figure it out. The guys just getting his bag and
so it's a stagger with us. So what happens is
(45:21):
I had a girlfriend, Darlene, who was on my covers,
and me and her were like together for fifteen years.
But I never got married because I already knew what
kind of nigga I was, you know, still in you know, moving, Yeah,
I just becoming famous. Rule one, don't marry nobody. That's
just getting at the beginning of fame. Yeah, yeah, it's
(45:45):
you never it's it's an onslaughter pussy and you just
have to weather that shit. And you think, anyway, what
happens is when I met Coco, when I can make
a Coco, I was forty two years old and I
was done. I've been to the theme park, I've been
to everything, I've done this and now I was ready,
(46:06):
and you know, I needed to find somebody. And since
she had matured earlier, she had been running when she
was seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one, so when I
met her, she was kind of done. And and the
words of Pimp and Ken one damn bitches worth ten
funky hos, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
at some point I chose and and and fortunately it's
(46:28):
stuck like glue. We've been matter for twenty two years
and crazy man, it's beautiful. It was. It was just
it was just the right chick. You know. She she
liked me, and like when I met her, I had
on a red snakeskin suit. Oh you know I was.
(46:49):
I was on some players ship and a video. She's like, oh,
that's five let cocoa fund. What's she wrong? What about California? Okay, okay,
she could do that, Okay, but she but she liked this.
I'm too much for most girls. They like, they gave
me herded out of your work mouth is pimping ho
and bitches. And she's like, oh, oh top ten shit.
(47:12):
She liked she liked me. So I finally found a
woman that really accepted me right, and I liked her.
She was always you know, she's out there, you know,
borderline exhibitions. She likes showing herself. She's fun and I
dig it. She ain't right for everybody. So a lot
of times people would come to me and go, we'll
(47:32):
give me some advice as I can. I can tell
you how. I can tell you how to be married
to my wife. I can't tell you how to be
married to your wife. I know what it takes to
make her happy, but I don't know what you might
be dealing with. So but you know, we always say
men settle where they find peace. And my wife does
(47:53):
not argue, she doesn't raise her voice. She's very peaceful,
she's very nice and week and she has me happy,
has me wanting to stay in the house and play
video games. And she's enough for me. And uh, what
you play? What games? What games you want? What you'll
be on? Oh? Yeah, first person shooters? Oh okay, you
(48:16):
the shooters? Okay, gotcha? But um, you know one thing
about relationships, don't brag on them because you'll jinx yourself.
Oh god, you got a priest this word. Come on.
You know I'm in a good place. But I mean,
you know, you ever noticed, like when you watch basketball wives,
none of them are really the wives. Yes, because the
(48:38):
wives aren't doing no fucking interviews. The wives are happy,
they're in the mansion, they're doing great. They don't want
to talk. They're like x wives running their motherfucking mouse.
But go to somebody's wife and in life, don't talk.
I don't want to talk about it, so we'll just
I'll keep it quiet. Everything's good on the icy front.
(49:01):
I love it. Wait time out, Steve do you remember
our fourth day at Fallon. I forget which writer ran
in to ask me. I forget the writer, but she
ran and says, I'm here. Do you know who iced
Tea is? And I was like, yeah, no iced Tea.
And they wanted me to broker, like I guess one
(49:23):
of the one of the Fallon writers had maybe Morgan
maybe I forget what it was, but like she had,
she had snarked a comment on Twitter, and they wanted
us to translate the roots, like what does this mean?
Like should I run out of state or should I
was like, no, it's I forget what your response was
(49:46):
what They were obviously not used to playing the dozens
or any of that sort of thing, and from it's
a Twitter though you know it's Twitter, It's like yo, whatever.
I was my fourth day of Foulon, literally, like I
(50:09):
just remember having to walk in the writer's room and
calm this person down, like, okay, right, exactly does not
mean it means eat a dick? All right? So whatever?
You know what, man, people they don't know how to
really respond to certain people. They don't know what's up.
(50:31):
They don't you know, people come over my house. They
expect to see people hanging off meat hooks and ship
understand because they pick up a persona from you. They
might just listen to my records. They might listen to
body count. They don't know who I am really you
somebody daddy like you a whole like do you know
me better than some they're They'll take a small thing
(50:53):
and my whole persona. You know what I'm saying, So
you know it is what it is, man, But you know,
let me do my shameless plug, please. I could check
on the daily game. The daily game was something that
I would do on Twitter because when I first got
on Twitter, I realized it was mob rules, and I said,
(51:15):
you have to get a crew. You got to get
people to fuck with you. So I needed something to
make you go back to my page. Because Twitter is
nothing but a chat room. It's a chat room. It's
going right now and talking back and forth and then
this million person a multimillion dollar million person chat room.
If you follow quest, that means I'm interested in what
(51:37):
he's saying versus everybody else. But if you have a
timeline with a thousand people, this tweet just shoots. So
the only way you really can make Twitter work is
if I go to your page, like, I'm gonna go
see what the Quest said today. So I crate up
this thing called The Daily Game and it's just jewels
I got from players, and uh, iHeartRadio dug them and said, hey,
(52:03):
why don't we turn this into a podcast. So the
podcast is iced Tea's Daily Game. It's on Spotify, and
every day I drop a jewel and then I break
it down like what the lady wanted Quest to do.
So you know shit like if it's if it feels
like you're going in circles, it's probably because you're cutting corners.
You understand me, you know, so that these are these
(52:26):
are little tidbits I got from different players and different people.
And I quote Aristotle, Socrates, all kinds of different people,
Tyler Perry, I quoted Jimmy. So anytime somebody says something,
I'm like, you know, we call it a jewel. Hold on,
(52:48):
So tune into the Daily Game. You can tune in
once a week and hear like five of them, and uh,
I did a year's worth. I recorded two hundred and
fifty of them. Took about four sessions, and four sessions,
uh six hour sessions, so twenty four hours yo. Before
we go. Man, you gotta talk about Chappelle show Hater's ball.
(53:11):
Come on, go on. You get a call from Dave Chappelle.
Certain niggas call you, you show up. You did what
I'm saying, Like I ca Quest called me, I'm gonna
show up. Certain people got that Dave Chappelle is one
of them cats. Right, So you get the call Dave
wants you to be in a skit. Hell yeah, I'm
in a skit. So they say it's the player haters ball.
(53:33):
Just wear something you'd wear to the players ball. Oh,
the red snakeskin suits. But I was glad that the
same the same one I had on when I knocked
Coco who that was a winner Chicken dinner, that was
that was a run. So I threw that on cloud
And then they get my hair on the set. They said,
don't do your hair. We're gonna curl your hair on
(53:55):
the set. And remember they had me sitting down there
talking shit what it was, and they just threw the
script at me and they just said you hosting. I'm like,
I'm hosting, and uh, they just said just get up there,
and they had a few things to say. And you know,
I invented that hate hate hate, because you go when
you go to the real players bar when they get
(54:17):
the awards, they say, pimp pimp, pimp pimp right, you know,
pim pimp, pim pimp porade. You know, so that's what
they do. So I just turned it into hate hate hate.
That was ad lib and uh it was legendary. And
recently I did a we did it where we were
a Game of Thrones and we showed back up and
we did the player haters showed up on the Game
(54:39):
of Thrones. Wow, skit me ashy Larry and I was
what was he called me? You got memories? Um Patris O'Neil.
He was in that skit rest in piece. Did jall
kind of go back and forth more than what was
on the air. It was wild, Nah, niggas talking crazy
the whole skit, Like, yeah, it was going back and
forth and those are comedians, so they bagging and uh,
(55:03):
you know when out of nowhere they're talking shit about me,
I said, next person time and stuff. I'm talking about
getting shot, believe you know. So we were just going
back and forth. My favorite one is I got to
go home and put some more milk and buck nasty
dish shit them. Oh yeah, that was yeah, like you
(55:25):
got the shark teeth say you don't like to shine,
but the nigga looks shotted at me, you know. As
one of my favorite sketches, bro I was. It was
one where you finally got to see cats just talk
shit the way we do and it was fun. And
you know, rest in peace, Patrese Charlie. You know it's cold, man,
(55:49):
those cats ain't with us, and it's legend, you know.
But you know, Dave Chappelle is that guy, like I said,
we did like I was light skinned, Larry Targarian and
the last skin you should have you seen that one.
I saw you do one, but I forgot what context
I saw it, and I don't know after we get
off go to YouTube and put player haters s and
(56:12):
now yeah, ok, yes that ship was wild. Yes, you
know I saw it. Anyway, man, I've just been fortunate,
you know, and and and you know, I'm as big
a fan as anybody else to be in this business.
You got to be a fan too, you know, it
(56:34):
ain't all about you. So I'm I'm I'm in all
a certain cats, and you know I don't have a
problem letting them know that, you know, So you know,
I'm just here for the ride. Man, here's a jewel
you ready? Yeah, all right? I see. You don't guide life,
you ride life. Nice tea ladies and gentlemen don't guide life.
(56:55):
You ride life. There's no way any of us would
ever imagine we would be where we are right now
today doing what we do. So you just got to
take the opportunities that they come and take it for
that ride. And you know, who the fuck thought I'd
be on television or on a quest love podcast, and
you know, all this stuff is just a part of
the ride, man. And who knows what toll happened next year? Man,
(57:18):
you know, so we're just gonna keep riding this ship.
Oh it's afraid of this. I just want to give
you all the us like, thank you, brother. You're a
beautiful woman, you recognize you know, as funny as cold man.
My boy Rich was like yo ice when you met Coco,
all you was really looking for was a bit to
understand what the fuck you was saying. That's it. That
(57:41):
understood what she's saying, man, And you know she does.
And God bless her for this, God bless you, and
and and and everybody on the podcast. Man go man.
The hate is so hate is so rabid right now,
you have to embrace the love. You gotta embrace it
because it's so when someone shows you love. Man, hold
(58:05):
on to that straight up. Now we love you broke
straight up, your legend and this ship man straight. Thank
you so on behalf of Unpaypal, Fantigolo, Sugar Steve and
l Yea this quest Love the Almighty the legendary Iced
Tea on Questlove Supreme. Well, thank you very much for
doing this and we will see you guys next go round.
(58:44):
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