QLS Classic: Bobby Brown

From his early days with New Edition to recording countless hits as a soloist, Bobby Brown talks about life as a musical legend.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Of course, Love Supreme misproduction of My Heart Radio. This
classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Quest
Love Supreme may contain languages some of our listeners may
find offensive. Listener discretion is advised. What's up, y'all, Welcome
to q LS Classic. This is Quest Love. We did
the Bobby Brown episode I believe in the summer of

(00:29):
two thousand and eighteen. Uh this is right before his
b Et two Parts Special came on in way after
the new edition BT Special camere in. And of course
his story alone bananas and that's putting it lightly, especially
the parts about Ms Jackson. It was nasty anyway. For me,

(00:52):
I think it was awesome important not to just focus
on the salacious, controversial side to Mr Brown, Like there's
other side to him that people don't know about. So
for us, it's like a way to humanize him more
than he normally is in other interviews. And I think
we did a pretty good job at covering both of them.

(01:13):
Uh So this is the Bobby Brown QLs Classic episode.
I hope you enjoyed. Prima sub prima role call subrema
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sub Prima role call. My name is Quest Law, that's
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name is Fante. Yeah, I'm getting my bread. Yeah because

(01:57):
I made this money. Yeah you did right. The brool
Primo roll call, so Prema Fremo roll car name with sugar. Yeah,
I'm gonna show you how to stay in this corner.
Yeah and cool it now Supremo role Carma so Premo

(02:24):
roll call. Here's one thing. Yeah, lost Bill wants to know. Yeah,
did you ever get that proton pack? Yeah for your
little broth roll Premo roll call it's like em Yeah.
And Bobby so nice. Yeah, I know I'm gonna love you.

(02:46):
Yeah for most of my Livesma Primo roll Prima Primo
roll call. Name is Bobby. Yeah, he's just a jess. Yeah.
Here chilling with my man. Question. Come on, roll call

(03:10):
Prima Prima, Roll call, Prima Prima, roll call Prima Primo.
That I'm up. I'm up. Lady and gentlemen, Welcome to
another episode of Course Love Supreme. I am Quest Love.

(03:33):
What's up? Team Supremeco Awesome? Yes, awesome. Sorry this is
a number one like this is this is why we
started this podcast exactly a moment like this, straight up,
straight up, Lady and gentlemen, our guest today is simply
the Kang Kang. Yeah, the king of the stage, King

(03:54):
of Roxbury, RB Jack Squear, Kang of fried Chicken. Yes,
king of progatives. I want to thank Bobby Brown for
introducing the word paracati. I did not know that. You
have to really understand something. I didn't know what the

(04:15):
word was at first. I even spelled the word wrong
on the record, and the dictionary corrected it in the dictionary,
so they rewrote it like I said it and like
I spelled it, so it was just like it was.
It was weird for me. I was because it's prerogative.

(04:37):
It's not peer rockative. It's prerogative. That's that's the proper
way to say. But they changed the in the dictionary
to be rocket. Barrassford, yes, the quest. Thank you for
having me take a side. Sister. Wait a minute, So

(05:02):
the way I've been spelling prerogative has been wrong. It's
been wrong. But the whole world. He introduced that word
to the world who knew what the prerogative was. What
is that? But you know what, it's sure. As he
came in handy when I was had to take the
vocabulary tests. What's this eight year old boy? You know

(05:23):
where the procative is? Brown? Brown? That's how you doing today? Man,
I'm wonderful. Man, I'm I'm just I'm just happy today. Um.
Last night we had the first view in the first
premier of the Bobby Brown Story and it just went
over really good. The acceptance from the people that saw

(05:43):
it was it was out of here. I'm here, I'm
hearing good things about it now here. Whatdy McClean, is
he's Bobby? Yeah? Yeah, I'm I'm gonna sit down in
a little while after this tour and just let him
be Bobby. You know, I'm just at home with my
kids and my wife and let him go out on
the tours. Yes, semi check back with what what what

(06:08):
is the process of especially, I mean, this is being
your second biopic? Like, is there a certain amount of
time that you have to spend with the person playing you?
Do you guys are talking the phone a lot, is it? Like?
How long did it take him to well with with
with me and Woody? Um? Me and Woody got to
know each other a lot. And when he was doing

(06:30):
the biopic for new Edition. And after that, you know,
we knew that we couldn't find somebody else that could
play that role that well, you know, for my movie.
And um, we called him up and me and him
had been hanging and you know, just going to lunch
and talking, and he developed all of my mannerisms. He

(06:54):
hung out with my kids, so he knew my kids
and my my young one of my daughters, she's three
years old, swears that what he's a boyfriend. So you know,
I'm just I'm just you know, I try to keep
them far away from each other. But no, Wood, he's
just he's just a great kid, and he's very extremely talented. Um,

(07:16):
and I just thought that, you know what, let's get
this boy another shot at it and and and watch
him just sore and he's about to he's about to say, now,
did you use the same younger guy for from the
new ASCE? So yeah, I had to I have to
keep it. I had to keep it real and Gully,
you know, Um, it was just it was just meant

(07:37):
to be. You know, the way they play off of
each other, you know, the way they get together and
they and they talk about, you know, the role of
being Bobby and and knowing the um the person knowing
me and being able to be around me and see
how I am as a person. You know, I think

(07:57):
gave them a lot of confidence and a lot of
insight on who I am and how do you play
this strange character? Um? And they pulled it off because
how does the younger how does the younger Bobby? Who
does he go to? He goes to me, he goes
to me and my youngest son, not my youngest son,

(08:20):
but but to little Bobby. You know, Um, isn't that
my man from Stranger Things? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, he's good. Yeah,
he's really good. He's really good and such a cool
little dude. I mean, you know, I saw him last
night and meet him and Woody were just sitting there
and I was just congratulating the excuse me on on

(08:41):
the great job that they had did, because you know,
they just brought the whole, they brought the whole Bobby
across so well, I mean, and I was just I
was sitting there and I was just like I was
almost in tears and sometimes but then I was like,
pull it back, pull it back, you know, don't don't
cry in front all of these people. So what angle

(09:04):
UHD or approach did you take to tell in your
life story that was different than the new edition Biopick.
I don't know when you first came it was like
when you first met Ralph or whatever, like so this
deals with your life and your household and Roxbury, Yes,
this deals with um. Um the first time my experienced tragedy,

(09:29):
the first time that UM, I lost someone in my life. UM,
when I was young. I was just a child and
I had lost my grandmother, and right after my grandmother,
right after a funeral, you know, and and me, you know,
not feeling, not feeling anybody. UM, my best friend Jimmy

(09:53):
was able to, you know, pick me up and was like,
come on, let's go have some fun because I was
just I was done, I mean during because she was
the one that turned me onto music, you know. Um.
She had every record, every album of every artist in
her house and she would just let me play all

(10:13):
of the music that I wanted to and listen to
everything that I wanted to listen to, and she would
show me different things to listen to. And then she
taught me how to play piano. And when she passed,
it was just like now where do I now? Where
do I get this this music from? Where do I
get this passion that I have in my heart? Um?

(10:35):
And once I um, once I lost her and me
and Jimmy. Uh, it's the first scene. So me and Jimmy, UM,
we still have some bikes. You know, we go riding
on the bikes and we pull up to a you know,
a house party and you know, somebody messes with the

(10:56):
bikes that we just stow and he got into a
fight with the spare much guy. And UM, the guy,
you know, Jimmy was whipping his you know, whipping his ass,
and somebody threw the guy and threw the guy a
knife and the guy, um, one of my boys kicked
him in the back and he lunged towards Jimmy and

(11:17):
and killed him, stabbed him in his heart. And UM,
that was the second, the second you know, um tragedy.
And that was the that was the point. That was
the time when I got to the point where it
wasn't about morning or anything like that. It was about
getting myself out of the situation that I was in,

(11:39):
getting my family out of the projects, getting my family
to better, better surroundings. And um, that's when I created
a new addition, and um, from that point it was
all history. So you officially created Like, were you the
the the one that gathered them? Yes. I asked Michael
Bibbins that he wanted on my group because I have

(12:01):
been doing talent shows by myself, so I knew all
of them. Um, we all stayed on different sides of
the projects. So I talked to Michael, you know, I
asked him that he want to be in the group
with me. He said, you know, yeah, you know, as
long as it don't interfere with my basketball. But and

(12:21):
then we asked Ricky, and Ricky was like he was
totally down. And Ricky said, you know, I know this
kid that could really sing, that could really sing. And
I was saying to him, you know, I'm gonna be
doing most of the vocals. I'm gonna be, you know,
the singer, the lead singer. And when I heard Ralph singing,
I just lost it. I was like, okay, okay, okay,

(12:46):
that's cool. He could he could do the songs. So
I I eventually, um, I put myself in the background
a little bit, you know. Um, I was okay. I
was okay with it because he sounded too much like
Michael Jackson, and it was just like, you know, um,
this is this, this is how we're gonna get out
of here. We're gonna get out of here by not

(13:08):
imitating but being the second coming of uh of the
finest boy band ever in history, which is the Jackson's
and um us coming behind them was just everything. Then
we met Ronnie from our choreographer, um brook Payne. How

(13:29):
did you How did you who officially met brook Payne? Me,
Michael and Ricky, Yeah, me, Michael and Rickey went up
to him and we was like, you know, he was like,
we want you, we want you to um. Well, Rolph
was there also. Um. We was like, we want you
to check us out. We want you to manage us,
because he was managing so many groups and in our neighborhood.

(13:50):
UM to Untouchables transitions, you know when these boys were shop,
I mean were they all Yeah, they were singing and
dancing and they were just they was a lot older
than we worked real quick. Um the transitions. I was
reading your book and I noticed that, and I believe
BIV was in that group, right, true, No, he was
involved with them and transitions later and I was wondering

(14:13):
if it was the same crew. No, no, no, Me
and me and BIV worked with a group. I forget
the name of them, but you know, me and Mike
dance with this group and we are When we wanted
to leave, they didn't. They wouldn't let us leave. So
we're broken the house and we stole the trophy. We

(14:36):
broke in the house and stole all the trophies that
we had won because they wouldn't let us take the
truth trophies home with us. So and we knew we
we would, you know the reason of those trophies, So
they wouldn't let us get the trophies. So we broken
the house and took the trophies and Mike would let

(14:56):
let me have it for a week, and I give
it to him and he'd keep it at his house
for a week. And then came to your like, someone
talk about trophies. Do you know who did it? Nope,
now they didn't. They didn't. They didn't even think. They
didn't even think about that. I hear a lot about
what life was like in Roxbury, you know, but usually
it's like, yo, man, I'll messed with Roxbury. But what

(15:18):
was Roxbury the toughest of the tough Like was that.
What was it like growing up in a city, especially
with racial tensions were so high between black and white
people up there and badly high. You know, Um, we
couldn't go in their neighborhood at all. We couldn't go
in South Boston without being jumped or bricked or you know,

(15:38):
and we had to pass through there to get to
another project, which which was Columbia Point, which most of
our most of our people that lived in Orchard Park
had some family in Columbia Point. So it was hard
to get through get through South Boston to get the
Columbia Point. Columbia Point was like where the beach was

(16:00):
and you know, um all of that type of stuff
to clam digging and fishing and all of that. Um,
but yeah, it was, it was, it was. It was
just you know, it's just I don't know, Boston is
so diverse, but it's it's still probably the most prejudiced city. Yeah,

(16:22):
in in this country. We didn't still even still even still,
but you know, since since hip hop has coming along,
they basically tried to be us, you know, and I
think that's what they was mad about before, because they
wanted to be us and just didn't have the colorful
you know the connection. It is Boston still home for
you or you based out here now. I'm based in

(16:43):
Los Angeles um Woodland Hills with my family, and I'm
very happy I'm not moving back to the East Coast.
That does not agree with me at all at all,
not at all, um speak on at least with Brook Payne.
What I what I always loved about you guys was that,

(17:05):
you know, you guys were the fine line between what
the Temptations represented, but you were also very much what
hip hop was was about to be. So it's almost
like you guys are the thin line between Temptations and
what U t FO was doing with Houdini, like those
early days. But how how many like painstaking hours of

(17:28):
practice did man that take? Oh my god, let's see.
We would get out of school like three o'clock, I
have to be at UM rehearsals. Back four. We had
to go home to our homework and stuff and make
it to rehearsals and don't be late because you know,

(17:48):
you're doing push ups or you're doing sit ups, so
you're you know, you're running around the building. You know, Yes,
basically that's how it was. But we would really respected that. Yeah,
I mean the group if he made me know it
was it was it was what we felt that he
let us know what was needed for us to you know,

(18:08):
be one of the top notch groups. Was you know,
to perfect our craft. If we perfected our craft, there's
nobody that could stop us. And um, that's how we
looked at it, that you know, all of the all
of the you know, long nights and and in long
days of just dancing and dancing and not singing. He

(18:29):
wouldn't want you to sing yet, but just dancing, like
four hours of just straight dancing, doing his steps within
without the music, and then there'll be two hours of
of us singing, you know, and we would be singing
you know, just like regular R and B songs. You know,
we didn't have music, own music at this point, so
we were singing you know, like um holding on. Yeah,

(18:53):
we got the interview. Really he was so happy about
that we were singing, that we were singing Jackson songs.
We were doing like the medley of you know, the
Jackson Medley. We would do that like maybe four times
in a row, just do that whole thing four times
in a row. And then we would just you know

(19:15):
um work on other songs, just any song that was
out there that was popular, we would make a routine
to it, you know, because we were still doing talent shows.
But we got we got kicked out of doing talent
shows because we kept winning. So we had to stop
being we had to stop being special guests of the
talent show, like did it be it's a talent show

(19:39):
with special guests? Were there were there any other notable
uh Boston acts that eventually made it that we're in
these talent shows, Like nobody even like the Plant Patrol
or any any of those guys now Planet Patrol, they
were older and all of that. But that was Maurice's brothers. UM.

(20:03):
But UM, when we when we um when we lost
the competition, we lost the first the first competition we
ever lost was the Hollywood Talent Night and this was
for a recording contract. Um. We were gonna be able
to go into the studio and record a record with
Marie Star and we lost. We lost to these um

(20:28):
these two two goofy goofy rappers LINKEYK and their name
was New York Rappers. Now that that was their name.
There was the New York, there was the New York Rappers,
but they were from Mattapan in Boston. Neither one of

(20:48):
them had been out of Boston or ever been to
New York. But they just called themselves the New York Rappers.
But they beat us and I haven't heard the peep
out of them yet. It was a rigged it was
they they did it. They were good at no. Yeah,
that was the whole thing. They wasn't even doing any

(21:10):
and for them to beat us, we were just like what.
My res came over to us and he was like,
he was like, I'm just this is just because I
want to sign y'all. I don't want this other label
to get y'all. He wanted to him and signed to
his label. So we were just like, okay, just put
us in the studio. Then Marie's always dressed like that

(21:33):
because I've only seen that the colonel, Like, how was
he that he was him all the time? That was
him all the time. Was he doing old to somebody
or he was just he doing old to somebody like
his grandpather used to dress like that or not, Like
I don't know, he just was that was his fole.
You know, that was just Marie. What was what was

(21:55):
Michael Johnson's relations What was this. Michael Johnson is Marie
Star's brother. Okay, so together they worked together. Because I
gotta admit um. When y'all gave a shout out on
the Candy Girl twelve inch, I thought it was Michael Jackson.
I knew it. I knew hey real quick. You said

(22:18):
you said that at one point, Uh, James Brown had
pulled you up on stage. Yes, when I was when
I was younger, I was I must have been like
seven seven, yeah, about seven six or seven. And my
mom she knew I liked James Brown, and she brought
me to the place called the Sugar Shot where he
was he was performing. Of course, she snucked me in.

(22:42):
I founded that time. She slucked me in there and
James is on stage and he's doing his thing, and
my mother just put me on the stage and I
just started dancing. He stopped his band. He was like,
hold on, hold on, hold on, come out, let me

(23:03):
see you do that. And he did it, did his thing,
and I did the same thing right, and then he
did something else and I did that and he was
just he was in all and I was just looking
up at this man, like man, I'm gonna be just
like you one day. One day I'm out. One day
I'm gonna be just like you. Did you passitive across

(23:23):
it again? After that? Yes, Yes, a few times. UM.
We talked a few times because we both were living
in Georgia at the time, UM, and we both did it.
We did this one concert at the at the Big Field.
It's a big field there, I forget the name of it. Um,
it's the baseball field, UM with a brave space. So

(23:44):
we did a concert there. It was a big benefit
concert and I was able to, you know, sit down
and talk to talk to him at that time, and
you know, I was. He told me to just go
stand on the side of the stage and I was like,
oh my god, I'm standing on the side of the
stage and I'm just watching, just watching it. And I

(24:05):
told him about the time in Boston when I was younger,
and I said, do you remember me? He was like,
I had a lot of people come on my stage, said,
but you know, I don't know if I remember you,
but I remember this one kid, one kid that could
do all the dance steps that I was. I was like,

(24:25):
that's me. So did you always have this confidence? Like
he said, seven years old. Your mother said go ahead,
and you was just oh, yeah, yeah, I was. I've
never been shot about anything. Um, I just think, you know,
why be shot when you can just be yourself, you know,
and and just let it go. You know, there's no
reason to hold anything that God has given you back. Yeah,

(24:46):
we had we had a baby face He was on
the show while back and he said about you specifically.
He was like, man, I haven't seen a lot of
acts and I'll producing everybody, and he compared you. He
was like, man, Bobby was like a prizefighter. He was like,
he said, Bob will come out. He was like he
was relentless on stage. That was I mean, that was
him talking about you. Just your your work ethic on stage.

(25:08):
He said, Man, Bob took no prisoners. Yeah, I don't
play I don't play with that. I do not play
with that. When it comes to being a stage I'm
a hold total different person. That's gonna ask your solo career,
how did that translate, like all that rehearsals that used
to do when you was a little boy and whatnot.
What was the difference in the rehearsals process for you
now that you had like your own dancers and whatnot,
Like were you were you pain and your dancers? What

(25:33):
were their names? It was Kim Willie Pop, So what
was it? What were you always and so and so? Yeah,
that's what that was. I was like, what was their names?
I didn't know? Slack mysteries unlocked right here. So did

(25:58):
you turn into in that way? Yes and no at
the same time, because, um, you know, I mean when
we was rehearsing with Brooke, I mean we had to
rehearse in a really hot smoke field room because Brooks
changed smoke Newports during the whole rehearsal. So it was

(26:22):
just like and it was like ninety degrees up in there,
so we were sweating and all we were doing was
breathing in Newports. And it's a shot that only me
and Ralph turned out to be smokers. Nobody else but
me and Ralph turned out, you know, to to stop

(26:42):
smoking after you know, several years of just being in
the room like Helen hand inhaling all of that. So
you know, Um, other than that, you know, Brooke was
always just he's a stickler for you know, perfection. Um,
with my guys, I was just I was the type too.

(27:04):
Tell them to dance loose, but dance but dance tight.
You know. Um, always be information and follow me, you know,
because I might do something. I might do something slick
and out of the step of what the actual step is,
and I need you all to remember it so the

(27:25):
next show they will remember this the slick, build on
and build m and build on. So it just got
it just started growing, and we got closer and it
was just we were able to read each other when
we were on stage, and that was a good problem.
Then we got Mecca and um the l A Connection dances,

(27:46):
which were you know, uh, four girls from New York,
four girls from l A. And we put them together.
It was a lot of fights though. It was like
the bloods and the crips. Yeah, Leslie was on Facebook.

(28:07):
Keep you just telling me? This is always a mystery
to me. Who was the girl who was always in
the videos with the short cut, slender brown skin. But
she was in my prerogative and she had the short hair.
She was planked. Oh that's okay because used to see her.
She had an error. I felt like I felt like
she had an error, like a lot of videos after that. Yeah, No,

(28:29):
I'm sure she had an aura. But I just I
was about this but I want it back, you know,
but you know you did skip a decade, so sorry,
I was. I had my mind fast forward. You know,

(28:49):
it's all good. It's all good. Um so for me,
even even though I know what what the initially buy
a pick had depicted, but how well, what I want
to do is, first of all, what was the uh

(29:09):
what's the term used with Randy? Oh? The click? What
was the what was as far as like your your
new addition situation? Who were the clicks? Like who was
who was your friend and in the bandit you were
close to? We were are all clicks at certain times,
you know, certain times of the day I would be

(29:30):
with like Ronnie, you know, playing cards or something like that.
Then there was certain times that me and Ralph would
you know, be kicking it and just doing what we do,
you know, goofing off and stuff like that, going to
buy water guns and you know, spraying everybody on the tour. Um.
Then it was me and Mike who's the who's the thinker.

(29:51):
He's like a big think tank, so you know I'd
like to pick his brain every now and then, you know,
and then um, Ricky Ricky's just Ricky, just Ricky. You know,
you just get around Ricky and Ricky just he's quiet.
If you say something, he'll agree with you. And that's
just how Ricky is. Ricky agrees with you know, most

(30:12):
of the things that everybody says. But he's super intelligent.
He knows what's right and what's wrong. And that's where
you that's who you go to to tell if there's
three against two and a vote, you go to Ricky
and vote. He's a swing vote. You know, you got

(30:33):
to get to him. Ronnie, Ronnie, you always seemed to
just be so cool man. He's one of the most
laid back dudes in the world. I'm so proud of him.
He just had twins and yeah, yeah, I mean, you know,
I'm just really proud of him. He knows, he knows
what he wants, and he knows how to go get it.
You know. He's He's bought so much property in Detroit

(30:57):
that is incredible. I mean, then he's dart in Atlanta
and he moves he's now moving to he started it,
he started his um, his his business in Atlanta. But
he's yes buying buying land in different places. And I
commend him, because Detroit is about to get a whole

(31:19):
big facelift, you know, Japanese, Chinese or I don't know what.
The Japanese are going to. The Japanese put like ten
bigion dollars into Detroit already, and it's like build industries,
build industries, you know, the Ford Company, all of that,
all of that's being rebuilt up, and there will be

(31:39):
more jobs and the homes will shoot up. You know,
it's almost about So I recommend for most people out
there listening, go buy you some property. Go buy you
some property in Detroit and watch it and just sit
on it for a little while. Don't out rent the community,
you know. You know what I'm saying about having affordable

(32:03):
what they're selling them houses like five thousand dollars. Not
gonna f those. That's the name of it. Yeah, that's business.
It's called Ronnie right now. So when when you guys
first started touring and traveling, Um, I first saw you

(32:25):
guys that I think you're a valid Forge music fair. Okay,
you did a bunch of like these small venues where
uh where the stage is always in the center or whatever.
I forget, Yeah, what your this was? I think there's
like eighty four. But um, how how did that affect

(32:47):
you as far as like finally make it out of
out of Boston and did you feel like, Okay, we
finally made it or yeah, probably so. Um. We used
to before before Candy Girl became a number one record.
We would come to New York. We would go to
New York and, um, we will perform like five shows
a night. We would play all five bottles and we

(33:07):
would start at like eleven at night and we would
just go to each We used to go to each
club or each roller skating rink and just play from
from eleven o'clock all the way to six that morning.
We will get in We would finally get in bed
by six that morning and get some rest and do
it again on Saturday. And then Sunday we would get

(33:31):
all into this station where excuse me, the station wagon
and we would drive back to Boston. How old are
you at this time? Fourteen fifteen couldn't even drive it
fourteen work done in the car. So it was required
like tutors and all that stuff. Tutors were required. My

(33:54):
mom wasn't letting me not, you know, get my education.
She didn't play that you know the way that they
they played your mom's out in the movie amazing way
do you see this one? Why do you see this same? Yes, Sandy,
Sandy McCree was Sandy McCree, And um, we have t. K.

(34:15):
Carter playing my father did where we found him. But
he is playing the hell out of my father and
he knew my father, so you know, it was just
like it was just like so great that he came

(34:35):
to that that um try out for the movie. And
when they told us it was t. K. Carter, I
was like, that's because I was going I was going
for a John Witherspoon or somebody like that. I was
going for John Witherspoon because my father was hilarious. I
mean just just hilarious. He would do the whole coordinate thing.

(34:57):
He loved the track. You know, he was just that man.
He was just that man that kept everybody laughing in
the house. Everybody that met my father called him Pops.
Everybody everybody in the projects just called him Pops. When
you started working on your first album on Kingdom stage, Uh,
my man, Lavelle, we were talking off Mike Homio, Lavell Molten,

(35:19):
he's a basketball coach at my Alma Mater. He was
telling me that you used to pass out. He was
passing out tapes like back in the hood. Like even
though what was that like, man, Um, it was tapes
and some other things. Anyway, it wasn't just tapes. Probably

(35:40):
in tapes, we can have packages in there. Um. But
that that was the time when you know, Um I
was put out a new edition and you know, I
had one chance to you know, do it again. Um.
I never gave up on myself. But at the same
time the only way for me to survive at that

(36:02):
time was to sell drugs and do what I had
to do to you know, keep my sanity, you know,
from um not making a little bit of money that
we was making on the tours. Um, I had to
find a way to make money to take care of
my baby boy. I had a baby boy, so I
had to you know, have some type of income. And Yeah,

(36:25):
but when Girlfriend hit and it was a number one
record and I was able to tour and stuff, and
that just opened it opened the door up for me
to be able to do another record. And then UM
Little Silence Jr. Introduced me to um Kenny, baby Face
Edmonds and l A. Reid and I just was like what.

(36:50):
And when you see the movie, you don't know why
I said what, because it was yeah, they was just
all the tots wrong, you know, and you know the
thing alright here makeup and it was just like I
was like, dude, I was like, come in, guys, right,

(37:11):
come in, man, come in. Please please tell me I
don't have to work with them with I know I
know where you were trying to go because when I
purchased King of Stage, I knew it's weird that even
though I didn't know what a new Jack swing was
in X because technically whether he's been it yet, I

(37:33):
kind of knew what you were going for because you know,
you're like be boxing on some of the songs that
Larry Black, you know. But it was how hard I
can tell where you were trying to go with it,
but either a technology or maybe Teddy just had a
better vision on how to make that ship bad. Right, So,
especially like with the title cut, which I thought the

(37:55):
title cut was like, Okay, that's the closest thing to
a Houdini or run DMC sound. Did it ever occur
to you to ask, uh, yeah, Larry Smith, did ever
occur to you to go to Larry Smith, who you
know his work with Houdini and run DMC was like
the closest thing to an R and B hip hop

(38:15):
mess that there was like did you get a choice
in saying I want to work with them? Them? Them?
Was Louse Silas, just like nope, you can. Louse Silas
was like this he was. He was basically, Um, if
you work with these people, then I you could work
with whoever you wanted to work with. And that's where

(38:35):
he told me about working with Eli and Face. So
my first my first, um person I said. I told him,
I said, well, I gotta go fly to New York
and I gotta work with Teddy Raley. How did you
know about Teddy? Because Teddy because he was he was
in a boys group kids would work and um, he

(38:56):
used to just I used to see him all the
time walking with this Cassio keep Ward and he used
to always I would stop him at Raise Pizza right there,
just seven just stop him and just be listening to
some of the grooves he had. And it was just
like it was just like meant to be, you know.
And he was telling me he was starting up a
new group called Guy and you know he had just

(39:18):
finished working with this this guy called Keith Sweat and
he played me that and I was like okay. I
was like, well, I got some tracks that I brought
you to here. And I had this one baseline that
I couldn't I couldn't, couldn't do anything with and it
was Prerogatives baseline. And Teddy came with this groove man
that was just it just it just fits so perfectly.

(39:42):
And then I met Aaron and um, me and Aaron
just just click like this and just yeah, Aaron Hall Um,
we just clicked. I went on the subway for the
first time in New York City with him to Brooklyn
and we basically wrote the lyrics to Prerogative on that subway. Yes,

(40:07):
yes I did. I don't want to seem stupid. But
Jane Griffin came and messed up right yes, and took
all of the credit on the record. Um, because Teddy
was in a litigation with guests two people who whoever
he had signed. He had signed a production deal with somebody,
and Jean Griffin put it under his name so that, um,

(40:31):
Teddy can receive something, you know, from Prerogative. And then
Teddy got his you know, publishing and all of this
stuff back. So you know, Jeane did a great thing
for him. You know, he held he held him down
and he helped him, you know, you know, be the
businessman that he is. Oh. I always thought it was
the thing where he just no, he didn't jock him.

(40:53):
He didn't jock him. He was he was very much
taking care of Teddy as well as he possibly could.
I mean, no one, no one planned for the phenomenon
that was don't be cruel, like nobody saw it coming
thirty years ago. But did you did you really feel
as though because even in my mind, like I'm just
thinking like, okay, there's Michael, there's Prince, no one else,

(41:16):
and you know, I'm just thinking like everyone else. But
it's suddenly like the people that you grow up idolizing,
now you're pushing them to the side a little bit.
So what was that transition? Like, like, have you ever
personally met Michael Jackson and had interact more? Was that like? Um?

(41:36):
It was? It was? It was great. I met him
when I was with the New Addition. Um, he invited
New Addition to his home and we hung out with
him the whole day. I mean, it's it was just
it was just crazy. Can you tell animals? What can
you tell the story about from the book about him
chasing LaToya and Janitoralm. Yeah, wait what happened? Well, we
were all running around and we were chasing um we

(42:00):
were just running around and uh, LaToya was, you know,
standing somewhere, and he smacked her on the ass and
all of us was like, all of us was like, oh,
I want to smack her so bad, but we didn't.
We didn't smack He asked like he did. But it was,

(42:22):
Oh my god, just to be and and you know,
I had always had a crush on Janet, so it
was just like just to be in the same room
with her at that time was you know, it was,
oh my god, she's standing right next to me. She
still feel the same way about she spoke to me.
He didn't matter like last week. So yeah, almost passed out. Man. Yeah,

(42:46):
well you'll see some scenes in my movie about Janet.
So what was feel different about that? Oh? Stoped, no spoilers,
no spoilers. What was you in his relationship? Like in
the studio? Man? Like, how did y'all vibe off each other?
We robbed really well off each other, you know. Um

(43:07):
it wasn't a rushed thing. We we knew that when
we had something hot, we knew what we had and
we would take our time and take our time and
and and get it, get it down, get it down perfectly.
And then we go out, you know, we'll go eat
or you know, just go chill out, play pool, you know. Um.

(43:30):
And then but the first time, the first time with Prerogative,
he was living in the projects. So we in Harlem
and the projects on the first floor and you know, um,
the booth was a bathroom, you know. So we literally
did it, and we did and we did. Prerogative recorded
it in the bathroom in his apartment. That's where we

(43:53):
did the vocals. What all of them? What did y'all?
What we all recording on? Like a fourth track or track? Yeah,
I know. He his setup was eight that thing that. Yeah,
So the vocal we here today was the vocal that
you cut. We cut in the in the bathroom. While

(44:13):
so in your mind, whenever you hear those vocals from
that record, you're just thinking of like, oh, there's two
brush toothpastes, some close up. They don't make close up anymore.
I don't know that just hot mouth fans close up.

(44:42):
No one thing I remember, you know about recording that
song was was just just you know, the kin kinship,
you know between me, Aaron him, Big Bub was even there,
you know. So it was a bunch of singers and
you know a bunch of people that love music and
love being a part of you know, what music was

(45:05):
going to become, UM and it was just fun to
just be around it, you know, and all of us,
all of us out there giving a hundred and ten pc,
you know, trying to make it out. I knew that
Errand was a singer, but um, I read somewhere was
Erring a keyboard player as well. Erican played the piano
like yeah, like what's his name? That with all the

(45:28):
jury ericn played the piano like Liberati, I mean, play
the piano play You were tracked? You did you track
the majority of the album in New York City? I'm no,
The majority of the album was done here in UM
Silver Lake with l A and Face and me and

(45:50):
Teddy did our our stuff over there in New York
and then I um, I did some more stuff and
UM in the Bay Area and then you know, just
mostly l A. Though you guys recorded forty songs for
the album. How did you yea, how many of them? Like,
did you ever revisit any of them later on? Or? Um? Yeah,

(46:12):
I still haven't in my garage actually yeah, the masters
in my garage? Yes, ye are ever going to? I
don't know yet. I don't know. I think you know,
I'm let my son listen to a bunch of them
and see what he likes and see how you know
he feels about him because he's recording his album right now.

(46:33):
So so I'm really looking forward to, you know, helping
both of my oldest son and my middle son, both
you know, recording artists. So you know, I'm just trying
to lay back and let them do what they do.
And then when I see him, you know, going straight
played pullay coat and you know, what's their names? Because

(46:54):
I feel like most of us feel like, yes, what
was the what was the workflow? Like you talked about
you and Teddy's vibe? What was the difference with Ellien Face?
What were they like in the studio like in y'all sessions? Um,
because of the person that I am, they had to
go with the flow, they had to go with how

(47:14):
I was is Bobby Brown session? Wow? You mean like
I'll be there. You know, being that three means that
I'll be always no matter who you was working with.
They had to adjust, Yeah, basically because you know, it

(47:35):
was just sometimes I'm late. I mean, sometimes you gotta
ninety minutes in yourself. But but but I've learned a
new way of living and being later is not cool.
You know, needs to be on time so that you
can get your work done and be able to do
Stop looking at you, Stop looking at here, You're a

(48:01):
little late, looking at direction. Steve once, uh, once Don't
Be Cruel became, and the album once it becomes that
just this month everywhere, Um, what how did your life change? Then?
What what happens? Um? Oh boy, I started touring a
lot more. Um, of course I was torn with um

(48:25):
the hot break to was torn with them. I was
opening up for I'll Be Sure, and then Don't Be
Crewe hit and Prerogative hit and we have to switch
and then you know, of course, you know, stop it
having problems because you know, New Edition was you know,

(48:46):
kind of hating on me because of the success of
Don't Be Crewe and they didn't want me to you know,
film the Roney video on that tour, so I told him, Okay,
well if they they, if they, if they can him Ronie,
I'll have them film y'all show. So I paid for
the cameras to film the show. And so then I

(49:11):
was like I talked to Al Hayman, who was the promoter,
and I was like, coming up. I was like, dude,
I need my own tour. I gotta go out on
my own tour. And he said okay. So we went
got Lvert and Karen White and we went out and
just and just smashed. And we've toured for over three

(49:31):
years with that album. My sister saw a heartbreak tour
and Don't be Cruel tour without me, and I still
hate him for it. Having technically you have to see
the biopic. Um, and you address it in the Rooney video.
But what was the situation with my memories Foggy? What

(49:56):
what arena had a problem with a you dancing? Or
was Georgia? But I guess they had heard about, you know,
my my stage show, but they still, you know, wanted
me to come to Georgia. Um the police had told
me right before the concert, UM, no sexual innuine doors,
no getting close to the girls. You can't bring girls

(50:19):
up on your stage. How do we don't want we
don't want to see you pelvic thrusting or anything. They
did so they didn't want Bobby Brown. I mean, how
do they know it was coming? Because it's like you've yet.
They had heard the word had been spreading, you know,
throughout the country on how I performed. That's why they
called me bad boy. Um, okay, you pumped really hard.

(50:45):
I remember you remember watching like I did? Used to
get in trouble for you know, if Brown pervoct thrust
for me, it got me in trouble. In fourth grade,
we were doing a talent show and I was gonna

(51:06):
dance and I opened up with four pervoct throst. It
was over because she's like, no, sit down over here.
It was it was fourth grade that Yeah, it was
about the same for me too. My little nine year
old is pumping down. Is it weird for you? Stop?

(51:29):
Is it weird for your kids to discover that you're
not dad? You're that guy I'm seeing on television? How
do they discover now? They basically no. I try to
show them as much as possible about me and I'm
the king. Yeah, trying to show my son, my nine
year old Cassius. He's um, he's a dancer himself. He's

(51:51):
a ballroom he does ballroom dancing. You know, he's running. Yes,
oh my god. You should see his little hips doing
the tango and doing the child child and all of this.
I mean, and he's won six competitions by him and
his um little dance partner, a girl. I mean, he

(52:16):
has to holds the head up and should us and
the hips. So the last one he just ended up
jumped up in the end, came down to the full
split rap. Please. This is the thing, though, what after

(52:37):
you did what you did, did they physically come out
and stop the show and rescue. No, they waited for
me to come off stage, so they left the show going.
And then they have to It's not depicted like that
in the movie because we didn't have time to you know,
technicality checker. Yeah, so this is what happened. Um, when

(52:57):
I got out stage, Um, I had my brother put
on my my robe and they followed him out at
first diversion diversion, and I was in one of the
anvil cases and they was pushing the anvil case up
the up the hill and they took the thing off
the time and realized that it wasn't me, so they

(53:19):
followed the anvl cation. As soon as soon as they
opened the anvalcates they were cops. Right there was safe
trying to evade police another charge. Yeah, that's weird, because
that's what that's what I remember about the show that
I saw. You guys used to enter and this like

(53:40):
this trojan horse sort of vehicle where they had to
push y'all to the stage inside of this wooden device.
So girls would attack y'all. So y'all like the original
Kings of anvil case, we would do that. We would
do that. That was that was one of the tricks
of Brick Paine and just of the trade. You know. Um,

(54:01):
we liked being attacked. Yeah we were young, but we
were We was you know, girl crazy, so we loved,
you know, being able to see all the all of
the chicks, all of the all of the young little hotties.
You know, right, we were cool with that. But you
know now that managed just they was like, girls are

(54:22):
only gonna get you all in trouble. We was like, well,
that's some trouble. We would like to give me that
trouble man, please answer for us. Who was Jackie oh god, yes,
who was Jackie? I love you Jackie? There was nobody
we heard that? Or what did smooth be of nicest move?

(54:43):
Did he write that rhyme? Was it him? Or did
you write it? No, he didn't write that. He didn't
write that one. Okay, no, he didn't write there. So hey, listen,
was just a rhyme scheme for ice can see. No,

(55:06):
I'm just gonna say, we're not gonna do like we
did the Baby Face where we just wrapped the whole thing. No,
please don't speaking of the movie, like I know that
your your peers were mostly wrapped. Look like who who
was your click? As far as like you're you're when
you were hanging and and it was it was smooth,
b it was you know, um at times Coogi wrap

(55:29):
at times, umright time, Well Houdini of course, Um, there
was a bunch. I mean I used to hang out
with with rappers a lot where in New York, in
New York, just in particular places and quarters we got it.

(56:02):
I've been waiting nineteen weeks to finally get a Latin
quarter story. Oh my god, you don't what to say
inside Like our first twenty episodes, everybody their mother. They
were tired about Latin quarter stories side sty Finally I
got a Latin quarter. I once saw um, a very

(56:27):
well known rapper, very well known, got hat. He wears
a hat all the time. Okay, I saw him get
his chain snatch and it was just it was it
was bad. It was bad. It was bad because you know,
it was these Brooklyn cats and it was just like,

(56:49):
oh man, and it was like they was for real
about it. They was not, you know, trying to give
him his jewelry back at all. And they just bounced
with his chain. And I was like him and L
was like, you know, l, I didn't care, and we'll
have another one of them all. You know. Why what

(57:11):
was the allure of that place? Because all I know
is that it was dangerous and you could get snatched.
You know, you can't sign too much. The dangerer part
of it was it was one way in, one way out.
There was no side doors. Latin corn is in the
middle of the block. It didn't have it. I mean

(57:34):
it was next to it was the store or or this,
but Latin Corners was one way in and one way out.
So and it was hot and all of the chicks
went there and and we were just you know, so
it's worth a risky in life to hear all the
hip hop that all the hip hop you can hear
and all the girls and bamboo air rings. At least

(57:57):
two pairs wrote that and club because that's all you
saw up in that club from the time that, uh
it was four years was I think it was four
years from the time of Don't Be Cruel It's a Bobby.
What took so long for the follow up? Um just
wanting to break because Don't Be Creue tour was grueling,

(58:21):
Like I said, it was three years of touring you know,
the world, and when I decided to go back in,
I really wanted a lot more of Cheddy's um funkiness
um on the album. You know, I was strange, strange,
further away from the sounds of you know, l A

(58:41):
and baby Face, and so I just took my time
with this that one, and you know, we came up
with what we came up with, and I think that's
one of the most funkiest albums. That's my favorite Bobby album.
I was One More Night and Name to Play Again. Yeah,
that was just jam after jam, Like what who decided

(59:04):
the singles picking the singles because like humping around me
it was a big hit. But when I heard it,
I was just like, Okay, this is kind of like
my prerogative. But then when I bought the album my
uncle he had it and I would listen to it
on a big speakers, and man, you had like some
sweet fucking songs on that album. And I was like, man, yeah,
Like I was like, yo, this is like this is

(59:25):
it sounded to me it sounded like the next progression.
It was like, okay, don't be cruel was bad boy
Bobby or whatever, and then but Bobby was like it
sounded like growth, and it was I love that it
was um, but you know, UM with l A and
Baby Face becoming such such a popular duo, with UM,

(59:45):
with all of the music they was doing for everybody else, UM,
I think a little silence felt that it should be
a Face l A and Face record that drops first,
and I was moving towards you know, getaway or to
complay that game on that. So you know, it's just

(01:00:11):
creative differences, and you know, I went with it, you know,
but of course we still sold three million copies of that,
you know, And it was like, I mean after my
first album almost going gold, King of Stage and then
for Don't Be Crue to sell twelve million. I'm just
in the States alone. Um, I felt that you know

(01:00:37):
Bobby album. You know, I thought it was gonna do more.
But at the same time, I appreciate it. Who who
bought it, you know, because it was it was just
it was just a project that I was really passionate about,
and I had a lot of fun doing the tour.
That tour was that tour was mean for me. That
tour was mean. I got a chance to go back

(01:00:57):
to all of them different countries and continents and all
of the cities in in in America and um and
just perform this just funky album, this funky, just funky
music that that that made me feel good, you know,
and that made other just feel good. And I was
just really proud of that album. No, you should be man.

(01:01:19):
For the longest time in high school, well it was
middle school going to that school. College Girl remained a
state that I used to that you mentioned like all
over the world in your book. You mentioned the Bobby
Yo's fan group in Japan. Oh yeah, can you tell
us about that, because that seems it seems Bobbios, the

(01:01:41):
bobby os they would um it was guys and girls. Um,
they would tan their bodies to my complexion. Yeah, and
they would wear clothes like me, and they would all
have gumbies. Oh how you get those dog? They found
a way moose. There's no questions too. Man. That was

(01:02:07):
weird to see, like Super Orange with these Afros, like
they wouldn't purn there they were purning their hairs, but
it would current looked like African America and freaked the
ship out of me. Yeah. Man, But in Japan you
never had loyal You never find more loyal fans in
the world. You have never find more loyal fans. I

(01:02:29):
mean they come in droves and they'll keep coming. Every
time you go back there they go again. What was
some of the other places we were able to hit
Africa while you were doing anywhere in Africa? I played
sun City at one time, and um that was you
played some city? Yes, and that was what city was? Wait?

(01:02:50):
What year? It was a year that you should have
placed some city? Yeah, I should have Yeah. It was
passing into okay, yeah, yeah he was home. Yeah, Okay.
So basically in five Silvio and sopranos. Stephen Little Stephen

(01:03:10):
kind of organized uh, kind of a protest record, we
Are the World ask protest record UM called sun City
and which basically he didn't want American artists going over
there to play, to play South Africa, to play South Africa.
The video was weird too, as like Miles Davis walking. Yeah, yeah,
it was great. It was like and uh, but the

(01:03:37):
thing was is that some artists were sort of crossing
the protest line, like I know that that's why Milon
Williams had left the Commodores and Thomas McClary, because you know,
some South Africa will basically offer artists like five times
the dollars go over there to play, and you know
it's either you show solidarity and not play it or

(01:03:59):
you sell your soul. And some artists across that line.
So but yeah, then it was okay to play some city.
Oh man, we jumped ahead little bit, ghost Thank you.
I was wondering, yeah, we gotta yeah come ghost Busters man,
like talk about doing the song again, like being in
the movie. Um with Ghostbusters. They approached me to write

(01:04:23):
a song for the soundtrack, and um, I did, and
I wrote a song called We're back. Oh yeah, and
oh yeah, that's my ship. I wrote that first, and
then um, I gave him that when it was like
we love it, we love it, we just need one more?
Can you give us one more? And I was like,
you know what, Elien, baby facing right, I ain't got

(01:04:48):
no more words that I can say about about Ghost
and I'm not I'm not in that. I'm not in
that frame of mind right now, you know. Um. But
the thing was, Um, if I wrote the song, I
told him I want to be in the movie also,
you know, so they put that in the contract. And
and then when I got on our own, um from

(01:05:10):
facing them, I was like, okay, so we dropped. When
we put the single out, we put on our Own
on the B side and were back on the on
the A side. But we did the video for on
our own, So as many as they sold, I still

(01:05:32):
get my publish in the back because it's the A side.
I never knew that We're on our own was the
B side. Yeah yeah, I always thought that was the main. Joe, Oh,
you also did a thin line between Yo, we gotta
talk about that and like a panther, but he had

(01:05:54):
he had he had a dopeas song on the soundtrack
to sound Partner. Yeah, Um, I don't know. I I
love acting. I love being a part of you know,
just the hurry up and wait situation. Yeah, you're just
waiting your trailing. You go out there, you work for
four minutes and go back to your trailing and you're
in there for three hours. And I love that, you know,

(01:06:15):
and you're getting the check to yeah, oh yeah, just
let me chilling my trailer. And Martin Man and Mark
was really cool. Um um, we had so much fun
on that set. Man, it was just like I don't know,
it was it was. It was basically a party because
he was directing, you know, and it was just a

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lot of fun, you know, the whole cast. You know,
we just we just joked around all all the time.
Was that role meant for you or did? Was it? Yeah?
He wrote it for me. Yeah. Was Lynn Whitfield because
she played the hell out of that role and she
scared getting s out of me because she stayed in
character offset Yeah, making jokes. She wasn't She kept she

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kept that straight like this, and she was just walking
around looking at people all weird and ship and I
was like, I was crazy. And then after we ropped.
She was like, oh my god, oh oh, I'm so

(01:07:26):
glad I could come out of that. I was like,
we are too step out here. When you did Panther
with Mario Van People's how did that come together? That
came together? Um? I went. I met with uh Mario
at his office and he was like, he had this
thing for me. He said, I got something for you, man,

(01:07:48):
I got something that I really think you're gonna you know,
you could really come across in really good. I'm teaming
up with Chris Rock and you him were gonna And
he explained the characters and how we was supposed to be,
and I was just like, I was like, oh ship,
this is this is gonna be some funny ship. Baby.

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I know you're gonna kill me, Chris. Remember, I'm sorry.
So since we're talking about acting and when you just
played that, I gotta ask you about the two to
seven guest spot. Yes, after that, I was sure that

(01:08:33):
I'll be good to you was gonna be the next thing.
I was waiting for that. Damn man, I just didn't.
I didn't at that point. I didn't want to do
any of the you know, other songs that everybody normally
hears from me, so I figured, you know, on on
on to to seven. I was just like, yeah, let
me I'll do I'll do this one. And unfortunately fortunately

(01:08:56):
that it came out really really good. Yeah. I loved
I love being able to um performance like like I
did into in the classroom and Regina jumping in and
dancing with me. That was just a lot of fun
and being on that set. Molly Gibbs is, Oh my god,
one of jim Um. She's She's a beautiful, beautiful, one

(01:09:20):
of the most kindest women I've ever met in my
life other than my mom. She is really kind and um,
I got a story about that. Um she was. Um.
We were all backstage and I'm thinking, you know, I'm
i gotta go to the bathroom and I walked into
the wrong room and mollas trying to get you. I

(01:09:44):
saw Malla's asking her she had on a she had
on a stock and she was trying to pull her
dress up. She was like, boy, close that door. I sy, Um,
when you did uh? After after Bobby and then Forever,

(01:10:07):
it was like five years in between. Scraped the record
in between there didn't you. Yeah, I think it was
the Forever album that I had scrapped. UM. I didn't
want to put it out because the record was done,
So I did it so early, you know. UM, and
I'd like to try to space the album's out, you know. UM. Yeah,

(01:10:31):
and it creates you know, a mystique too to the
name Bobby Brown. UM. But with Forever UM, I was
truly in love, you know. And I just wrote songs
that UM were about, you know, love and UM, I
loved feeling inside feeling that Yeah, I love that record,
feeling inside you like that. Don't stand up. Don't make

(01:10:55):
me feel like I'd say something wrong now. I just couldn't.
I'm just couldn't stand the record. Actually, I really felt
like I like, I don't know. I just don't know.
I just get too close to it. I mean, I
don't know. Jeff, Wait a minute, Jeff Red, you don't know. Jeff. Yeah,
he did the record, and you know, at the time,

(01:11:16):
he was A and R up at UM M C
A and I was like, dude, we're not We're not
dropping that first. I didn't want to drop that first.
And he was like, but he had more pull over there,
and he was like, yeah, I think we should drop
this one. I was like because you didn't you did
it right, But I liked it because it was kind
of a different feel for you, Like yeah, and like

(01:11:38):
the way you're saying on that record, you hadn't really
kind of done things like that before. So I was like, yeah,
I'm with this, thank you, thank you. I appreciate it
because this is there's so many songs that I've recorded
that I didn't like, like don't be Cruel, I didn't
like that. I didn't like I didn't like every little
stat Why why time blasphemy? Like why do I feel

(01:12:05):
that even thirty years after the fact, still you're still
lukewarm on your working relationship with l A and Face,
Like no, no, we're good. We're good. Me and me
and Face are really good. First of all, can you
settle this whole that was really ralphed singing on every
little stock? Whatever started that rumor or? I don't know

(01:12:26):
who's sometimes at that, but that is definitely a lie. Okay,
So what did you not like? Please don't be cruel?
Don't you like about just I just thought it was
too slow, Oh man, I thought it was like, come
on people. Then I started thinking, you know that it

(01:12:49):
sounded like Cassanova. I can see that. I can see,
but you seem to like you. Yeah, because I was
because that was like, well there was eight so that
was like I was like third grade. So we have
our dance. You know. I was always a man of husk.
So that's the heavy d that was the big man.

(01:13:12):
That was. Yeah, that one you would have made that
you on the house record. I put a little bit
more funk on it. But as as I as I
started to grow on me when I was on tour,
it was just it just grew on me, you know,
especially when we put the rap in it. Because first

(01:13:34):
we dropped it and we had to drop it without
the rap because radio would not play rap at the time,
really no version without the rap. We put it out
the first time without the rap, and then um, the
radio was playing it, but it wasn't it wasn't really
going nowhere. So we took we stopped that. We brought

(01:13:56):
that one back and put out my prerogative, like we
pulled the pulled crew and put out my prerogative and boom,
we hit him. We got pop radio. We you know,
we've got started getting all the ads. And then we
put the rap on that won't be Crewe and put
it back out right after prerogative. So it was like

(01:14:17):
it was like a switcher rue And what was the
effects of that when you put the rap back on?
What did we number one? That? Yeah, that's the party
when that's when they started really really playing rap music
on the pop radio stations because they was like they
had to. I'm really shocked at your if you didn't

(01:14:39):
like it? Did you? Were you hesitant to name the
title after the record? No? No, no, I thought I
thought I'm a I'm a big Elvis Presley fans. It
was like that, I'm gonna yeah, ok so then every
little step what is the problem? Um? Was the same verse?
The same verse? Yeah, it took parts of that, parts

(01:15:02):
of that, and then I just thought it was bubble gummish? Wait?
Why was it just? Why was it one verse sung
twice the same Now now I'm doing Wait, didn't Face
already revealed that to us? Or am I just discovering
that right now? I can't remember? So it was no, No,
it was the same verse. It was the same thing,

(01:15:24):
the same verse. It was just Sun Sun differently, Saturday
did the same thing, Saturday love? Yeah? Yeah? Man, So
did you like Rony because that's like, okay, you like
all the balance. Here's a random ask question that probably
I'm the only one that's interesting. How involved were you

(01:15:46):
with the Dance you Know It Remix album? Yes? Very yeah,
because I felt, you know, if I wasn't going to
drop on the album right right away, that the best
thing to do is remix and re sell the same
songs that we just sold. It was it was that
that was the remixes in the key of B. Was

(01:16:07):
it that? No, there was dancing for the Don't Be Cruel?
Out of the remixes for the for the drop It
on one? Where is the B Brown posse? Everywhere? Everywhere?
We're starting to rebuild right now. We are definitely starting
to rebuild with my sons. And I have this other

(01:16:28):
artists his name is um damn did I just forget
his name? This an artist named Frank Stickhams And got
a guy named Tim Campbell Um and then we still
have styles. Styles are still out there. Um yeah, yeah,

(01:16:48):
keep it going. In your book you were talking about,
you know, you guys recorded a lot of stuff for
the for the your label that you had. Um is
any do you ever think any of that stuff is
gonna come out never know, you know, I just gotta
go in and I gotta I mean, my my garage
is stacked, which just just reels and reels and reels,

(01:17:09):
and um, I just got a fire time to you know,
go through them. And I mean, if you need somebody
to help you, volunteers. Yeah, I'd like to know what
was the the process of reuniting the group back together
for the Home the Home Again album? Like, I know
it's an extension of the back the remix of Word,

(01:17:34):
but how how is that? Uh? I just missed my
I just missed my crew, you know, I missed all
the guys. I missed the camaraderie that we have. Um,
I missed just my friends, just being out on the
road with them. And I was like, man, it's time.
I think it's time, you know, we get together and

(01:17:56):
we do something. What went wrong with it? We were
all crazy, we were all crazy. But did it last
at least the full tour? That's the only time I
didn't get to see that. I didn't. I didn't get
to see him that year either. I didn't get to
see you guys I still have. I don't know if
it lasted the whole tour. I don't know. I don't
even know that because I mean at that time, I

(01:18:19):
was in a funk. I was in a real bad way,
you know, with using drugs and things like that, and
it was just it was just not a good time
for me in my life. And and I was still rolling,
you know, I was still on the road and not
taking care of myself, and it was just it was
just a bad time. And you know, we ended up.

(01:18:42):
I ended up losing my damn mind and you'll see
it in my film. Um and I just I snapped,
you know, and just went crazy for a little while
and had didn't come up to her and you know,
get some help. And I'm grateful that I did. Is
it always all good? With With the introduction of Johnny,

(01:19:04):
I was like that if it was great? But I
was a a fan. I was like, was that that easy? Well?
Me and Johnny have never have had a problem since
I since I found out that he wasn't there to
replace me, you know, he was there to replace Ralph
because Ralph was going to go solo. So I was
just like, oh, okay, well I me and You've got

(01:19:24):
no problems then, because you know, I was I was
Eddie Kane Jr. At that time. How long did it
take you to get that information that it looks this
is what it is? Actually No, they told me Mike
and Mike, Ricky and Ronnie and and and then told
me and then you know, me being close to Ralph,
Ralph was telling him he had been playing me his

(01:19:47):
his album, you know, because me and Ralph was like
this and he had been playing me his music and stuff.
And I was like, yeah, that's you blow before this sensitivity. Yeah, yeah,
he had a bomb album, um that he did with
Who was he working with? You know? The producers that

(01:20:08):
just a guy named Dwayne Dwayne in Boston, Um, I
forget his name, but um yeah, they had some hot
stuff man. And I was just like, yeah, that's that's
it's gonna, that's just gonna. They hinted at that in
the in the New Edition movie. Were they actually using
the music that Roth had recorded for that record because
they were playing some songs? I don't think. So. Did

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you treat the relationship? Did y'all treat the relationship with
New Kids on the Block the same way as Johnny
in that way? Like, well, I guess I should say so.
It was their hostility more toward Maurice in that way.
Then no, no, we we we we really didn't care.
We was just we were mad that they they cornered

(01:20:50):
the merchant. They made more money with their merchandise than
than their records. So it was couldn't go to class
without seeing like eighteen girls and new new kids on
the block. Yeah, swash sweatshirt. Traffic keepers. Traffic keepers, yeah, yeah,

(01:21:11):
because traffics. Yeah, all kinds of ships. Wait side questions.
I'm about to derail into a rabbit hole. But your dad,
it's almost back to school time. Oh yeah, it's already
back I've already got all this and I'm not a dad,
so I gotta know books anymore. They don't use traffic
keepers any like the traffic keepers done. They do have notebooks.

(01:21:31):
But what's flying now is that they have companies now,
uh that you can prepay for your you're back to
school supplies, yeah and l and when your kid get
to school, the box to just be there but their
name on. So that's what I do. Like I bought,
I bought like Amazon, your son the school man, Amazon
Prime that niggas applied. I'm not going to talk it

(01:21:53):
and spend it all that time, and then that's so fun,
know you. I get them and you send him and
he gets to school the first day. His name is
on the box and he's good to go, all right.
So I hate to keep referencing things in your book,
but your book is really good and I hope people
can keep it. Like from me asking to tell these
stories that will go out by Um, there's a story

(01:22:13):
about Mike Tyson and the book is this in the
movie Do you know what I'm where I'm going? Can
I can you tell the story about the night partying
with Mike Tyson and what happened the day after? Well,
it was we was in Japan and we hooked up
in Japan and this when he lost the buster. Dougles, yes,

(01:22:33):
spoiling the story for us. Let me you didn't know
that's what where this was going. Listen. We basically stayed
up all night partying, okay, with like maybe twelve Japanese
girls and just me and Mike, and it was just

(01:22:57):
the funniest night ever. We had a ball, but it
was just the funniest night ever. I kept telling him,
I kept telling them, and I kept telling him. I
was like, Mike, you need to go get some sleep.
You gotta fight tomorrow. He's like Bobby listen, Bluster douggess

(01:23:19):
is he's an amateur, he said. He said I could
I could beat him if I didn't sleep for five weeks,
he said. He said, watch watch how quick this fight ends.
This is gonna be one of my quickest fights. I
was like, Mike, all right. He was like, don't worry, man,
you worry so much. I was like, all right, going

(01:23:40):
before the fall and what they don't behold? I had
to go to Osaka and I couldn't go to the fight.
I had to go to Osaka. And I'm sitting there
at this this Emperor's place and he has it on
his big screen and I'm like, we're watching it, and
I'm looking at Mike and I'm seeing the fatigue in him,

(01:24:03):
and I was just like, oh, ship. And then then
the punchers came boom boom boom, and I just started crying, like, yo,
so bad. You don't understand, man, when that ship, like
watching Superman like it was hurt. Yeah, that hurt it.

(01:24:27):
I mean it hurt me to my core. I was
just like I couldn't I couldn't breathe, and I had
to go on stage. So I was just like, I
think that's when I started having panic attacks, you know,
and just like I was like, oh my god, he's
gonna kill me. He's gonna, he's gonna, he's just gonna,
he's just gonna destroy me when he sees me. And

(01:24:49):
I was like, I was like, yo. But then I
started thinking about it. I kept telling this, why would
he be mad at me? What was it like? After
after after the fight, he called me on the phone.
He said, Bob, he was right. He said you were

(01:25:10):
so like he said, I was so sleepy and there
my legs with my legs were mush in there. He said,
that's why. He said, that's why cuts of model told me,
don't have sex for fight. Yeah. Again, you had a
lot of sex, a lot of sex. It wasn't it
wasn't just one person. You had a lot of sex.

(01:25:34):
They do it. God, I was drinking an alkaline water. Yeah,
plenishes electron. So so like, what's your life like now?
Like on the day to day, like what you life?
What you do? My life now was beautiful, I think. Um,

(01:25:54):
I mean I'm living my best days going back vote
Um now I'm I'm I'm so happy. Um, as y'all know,
I'm I'm I'm married. I've been married to my wife,
Felicia for for the last six years. We've been together

(01:26:17):
for about ten um and then um we have three kids. Um,
a two year old or three year old and a
nine year old and just six six six six. All right,
I know I have it on good authority as a foodie.

(01:26:38):
Uh huh that you're fried chicken game is bar nine,
hands down, Stina Harrison. Look at wait, I saw someone
another room like, look like, this is not the cocaine
fried chicken. This is not the cocaine better to make

(01:26:59):
you addicted like coke. No I have. You know, we
have a food line Bobby Brown Foods dot com um,
and we make barbecue sauces all natural, gluten free kosha.
You know, all all of the all of the natural
ingredients that we put in there, um are fresh um.

(01:27:20):
And we we basically make it and bottle it while
it's hot so that you know it's it's the real
it's the real deal, you know. Um. Then we have
the fried chicken mix which you can cook pork, chicken
fish with the fried chicken mixes called brown bag in it.
We give you a back, give your bag, you get

(01:27:45):
me comes in the bag and you can use that
bag to shake it shake your stuff up. Boston Blend
is like a rub or you know, just like an
everyday pepper, which is which is also all natural, um recipes. Yes,
salmon right, speaking of seafood in the everyday seasoning is

(01:28:10):
also it's like a it's like Lowryes, but it's a
lot a lot less salt and it's it's it's also
you know, gluten free and all naturally. We're gonna cops,
I'm gonna cop some of that. Speaking of seafood, I
understand you you're big into sushi, is that right? I am?
I am? Um. Have you ever been to Geros in
in in Japan? Right? Geros? Yes? I don't think he's

(01:28:35):
the god of sushi. Oh yeah, since he he's like
eighty eighty nine years old, but I have to check
him out. You gotta see his on the Netflix. You
gotta see his documentary Gerro Dreams of Sushi. And like
it's it's a pilgrimage. Like his meals are like six
seven dollars, but it's people. People make pilgrimages over there.

(01:28:56):
It's almost like going to confessional. H yeah, like it's
just you and him alone in the room and he
feeds you, you know, the best sushi you've ever had
in your life. Wow. I remember I remember going when
I first ate sushi. I ate sushi in Japan at
the Empress Palace. He invited us over, Me and my
whole crew. We had just finished doing um Tokyo dumb

(01:29:21):
for the seventh night and he invited us over, and
I mean the palace was so beautiful and he just
we we were like skeptical of trying sushi, but it
was like this was so long ago, this was before
all of these sushi restaurants noted popping up here. And man,

(01:29:42):
I swear on my life, this just food was so good.
It was oh my god. Nate had Tempora's and all
of that. They had these little white fish that um
the tempore, and I mean I can still taste it

(01:30:02):
right now, that's how good it was. And then I
tried all of the other you know, you know, raw
fish and things like that, and I got my kids
into it, you know, my older kids, and then um,
I started telling them that the you know there was
sabi was dessert and that was the ice cream that

(01:30:26):
I did it to my brother first, and he took
a scoop and put it all in his mouth, and
he was and he doesn't like anything hot, and his
head snow started running. I started tearing up. Was like
before I forget. UM talked to us about how you

(01:30:48):
had Bosstown in Atlanta and then how it became stink
on you outcast in that connection. I forgot. Well, Brosstown
was a place where we did all of the recordings
for you know, most of my stuff that I did
with M. B. Brown Posse, and we would rent it out,

(01:31:09):
you know, track. We do lots of tracks. We have
three studios. Um, but I just got I just got
tired of Atlanta. You know, when I was getting ready
to get married to Whitney, I was just tired of Atlanta.
I was tired of being there and tired of the
whole Atlanta scene. You know. Because what years were you

(01:31:30):
there from? I want to say eighty seven to ninety eight,
seven to ninety two, So that was Freaki still was.
They canceled freak Nick back in Mud around ninety because

(01:31:55):
it was it was wild. It was wild. I have
never seen so many strip I was on in in
my life. I mean strip club on every corner, every corner.
I was like, isn't this the Bible Belt state? Apparently not. Yeah,
Atlanta is just I mean when you know, like Atlanta

(01:32:16):
is just like one speck of black people, but Georgia
like as a whole. Oh yeah, it's yeah, it's real.
I'm from I'm going to raised North Carolina, so like
my buddies, my homies would drive down to Freak Nick.
But I never got a chance go. I was too young.
But Freak Nick was wroblem. So you had the studio there,
I had Bostown there, and I guess you know, I

(01:32:36):
would told l A that I wanted to sell it,
and he said, well, I got some guys that might
want to buy it off you, and we hold it
was outcast, you know, the Dungeon crew, and I sold
it to them and moved on. You know, I didn't
look back. Well, you know, brother Brown, we thank you,

(01:32:59):
Thank you show bro, like for real, like you are
a survival. Thank you appreciate it straight up. And I
want to thank you for all the sacrifices that you
and the guy's in new edition made because you guys
basically gave up your childhood just to entertain us. So
I want to thank you for that. Thank you. You
made a lot of people very happy. Thanks y'all made

(01:33:19):
us hardy. I mean, y'all didn't have to listen, but
you did well. We had. What else are I gonna
put on? My cake? God? All right on? Behalf of
Team Supreme? Uh? Are you and Fin take a little
and Sugar Steve you cool? Yeah? I'm cooling it now

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