QLS Classic: Chris Rock

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of Course, Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio.
This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Quest Love and you're checking
out another QLs classic. We're digging in the vaults for
all of your favorites of past episodes. This one one
of the funnier ones we've ever done. Chris Rock keeps

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you in stitches, always keeps you educated. I hope you
enjoyed some grandmother call roll call, Whatur's love don't stop?

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And I am shocked. Yeah, I'm with Chris Rock in
the place where they shot to buy. So bringa road
called Quest Love Supreme. Yeah, y'all know we bawling, Yeah,
because I am fonte. Yeah. And it just be calling

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some prema rogue, some prima, some prima rogue. Chrispon so funny. Yeah,
so what's next? Yeah, fring back that talk show? Yeah,
not x much. Some prima road called some prema so

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frema road call. I'me on, hey Bill, Yeah, ain't that legit? Yeah?
Back with christ Love Supria. Ain't that some ship roll
frema roll call, some prima, some frema rogue. My Bill
is here? Yeah in radio land. Yeah, don't please. It's

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a solid man. Some sma roma roll him Yeah, happy
and nappy, Yeah, and I'm so happy. Damn I missed up.
Chris Rock here rogue, prima ro Chris Rocks my name, yeah,

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and I got hot. Yeah, And I don't want to
farg and I'm not coming on rogue some prima rogue,
some frema rogue rod straight out. Oh yeah, ladies, And look, yeah,

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Chris Rock is on the show. And I don't want
to waste a second or in any of whose else
has been on this show? Any other celebrities or my no,
you're not the first. I'm the We have the revolution.
Who has this been on the show? Without Prince? Though?
Right with that? Without Okay, you gotta say that, motherfucker.

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You can't just well yeah, I mean, you know, Relution,
that would have been amazing if we had him on
the show. That would have been something part of the
revolution or is it Prince and the revolution and the
revolution is a separate entity. So he was never in
the revolution? Okay, except in the movie Purple Rain, then

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it was the kid in the Revolution? Okay, yes, please,
welcome to the Revolution. Exactly? Does that say that? No,
nos has done the show. Chef Gordon has done the show.
Ray Parker Jr. Has done the show. Rudolph's done this shower,
Q Tip Salons. Yea, yeah, okay, so yeah we we

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we yes in this very room, in that very seed
well and I'm on every week and and Sugar Steve
is on every week. All right? Um? Yeah, because you
are so opinionated, really unsolicited, you saved you. I don't

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want to waste a second about any part of your life.
So I wait, I just recently I didn't know you
were born in South Carolina. Yeah. I was born in
a little town called Andrews. Andrews right next to Georgetown.
When you drive in, it says the home of Chubby Checker.
Uh so Chubby's not even from Philly. No, Chubby Checkers

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from andrew South Carolina. And one of my goals in
life is before my mother dies, is to get them
to change that sign to home with Chris Rock. You
know you can make that happen, right, I mean it
hasn't happened yet. I mean you can great work or

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good work. I haven't made the twist. So you're saying
that it would be tacky if you were too solicit
solicit them and ask them to I mean, you would
think by now they should I should I call the
township and be like, yo, y'all should really put Christmas?

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You would think, I mean, I don't know, I haven't
you know what you have to do when you know.
But when you go on tour, we are you able
to play a place in Mattown. I'm able to play Charleston.
So yeah, it's like fifty miles away. Yeah, but is
that really okay? Have you given back to that hometown?
I mean, hey, I bought my mother's house. You gotta

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do something there, like and then you know, the mayor
claiming Chris Rock Day and you're jokingly like, hey, you know,
be funny if you when you drive in it's my name, right.
I think you know what You're right, you can that's easy.
I'll even even I'll even DJ the a couple of
basketball rims exactly Chris Rock parts. So how long did

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you were just technically born there? And I was just
technically born there and then literally like the next weekend,
my parents came back to Brooklyn. There you go, that
is so New York. Everybody originates in Carolina. Yeah. I
think my mother just wanted her first child around her
parents pretty much, so she was just visiting South Carolina. Yeah,
I mean my parents, both of my parents are from

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South Carolina, both from South Carolina, but they lived in
Brooklyn when I was you know, my whole I was born.
I was raised in Brooklyn. So what was assuming that you? Yeah,
you were born in early sixties, right, I'm born in
sixty five. When I was born, Dr King was alive,
you know. Yes, I'm fifty one years old. Yeah. Still,

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money is the best lotion in the world. You ever
go to like watch rock and roll everyone. I was
like the rock and Roll of Fame one year. I
think I was putting in the Peppers or somebody. Anyway,
Smokey Robinson wasn't inducting the Miracle. So this is a

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group he was in. He was in the group. He looked,
he looked. It was like he was inducting his parents,
like his grandparents. It was unbelievable, like, oh, yeah, Smokey
wrote the song its smoky Smokey. Yeah, I feel like

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you a lot more shiny. So I didn't know if
it was like a moisture I was using that anyway.
I picked up on it that night and Rod Stewart
looks better than the guys in the faces, Like whoa
use actual moistrategy? Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't
know what the other commodores look like, but I don't

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think as good as I'm gonna bet o good. So wait,
we're in Brooklyn. Uh, we're okay at Uh. Until I
was seven, we from time I was born to seven,
we're in Crown Heights, and then from seven to you
know whatever, twenty until god till I had my kids.

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Until thirty something, I was in a bed sty. You
don't strike me as Brooklyn because whenever I think of Brooklyn,
especially like when I first started coming to New York,
like Brooklyn, every person had like the same intonation, like yo,
what happened like every day was up here? Yo? What's
that good? Like I've never seen you in camouflage, you know,

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one leg were rolled up and no, no, I'm not
that cat. I'm there. I'm Marcy. I'm I'm Marcia. Is
not too far to Kada Howard and Saratoga, right, you
know bre voids where we played ball and you know,
so why is it that assuming that your parents you
know that ship? I was that guy I was corny

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as a motherfucker's I couldn't get much cornier than me.
Uh So, why did you have to go to school?
Because that was what was going on back then, That's
what That's what progressive parents did, that's what. So the
education it was busting. Busting was a thing. So I
went to school out at this place called Garrison Beach

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with poor white people. And where I was to school,
you know, it's it's seventy two, so I was a
second grade. Seventy one is first. So yeah, I got
off of bus and I saw niggas go home signs
in Brooklyn literal in Brooklyn. Everybody. You know, I got
called nigger every day and I had teachers say ship

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to me and whatever. I don't even I was the
only black boy and there were three black girls, and
we were the first black kids at that school. Like hey,
I mean, I was fucking nerdy, motherfucker. So you know,
I was bullied pretty bad. But if I don't went

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to a black school, I probably got bullied to wish
what was your nerdy? Look? I was just a little
you know, it's not even that your nerdy, it's just
when you're a kid when you're a boy. Especially, your
size determines so much ship, you know what I mean,
Like how fast? How tall are you? How fast are you?

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How far can you throw a ball? Like, like your
physicality just determines where you're gonna be. So my physical
I was so tiny, motherfucker. So I just determined that
I was never going to be a cool kid. Like
the only way I was going to be a cool kid,
I would have to be batshit crazy, you know what

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I mean? And I wasn't batshit crazy. The only little
cool kids were batshit crazy. So you didn't fall on
t V. Oh maybe you can play ball? And I was.
I mean I played everything, but I wasn't great at nothing,
you know what I mean? So I ended up like
that guy. I was that guy, which it's cool. How

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many years did you go there to? Uh? I mean
I dropped out of school in the tenth grade. I
believe my d You went to the same school I
went to. I mean we're just talking about grade school.
Then I went to junior high, but I mean at
that same school in Vincent. I went to different you know,
so grade schools PS two seventy seven. Then you go

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to Marine Park Junior High. Then I went to James
Madison for a year and a half, went to Boys
High for a half a year, went to a black
school for a minute, and then that, and you were
just like, well, you get to a point where you're like, Okay,
I'm in a shitty school, I have shitty grades. Is
this diploma worth any more than a G E D? No?

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Why am I wasting by time? So what do you do?
I quit school, got a g D. Like okay, yeah,
Like two months later, it was just like what the
what am I doing? Um? And you know, working dumb jobs?
You know stock boy, Uh, I worked with mentally handicap adults,

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uh at like halfway houses like these houses that well
that sometimes they're in the house in jail or whatever.
So you're kind of like, you know, like you go
to the mall and you see somebody like people taking
artistic adults to a movie or whatever, Like I was

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one of those people. You were a white two or
a white outfits yeah not or not, you know, just
wrangling how is that for you? Like did you have?
But you're a nice campaign and it was cool. I
was cool. I was cool. It's a good job. It's
a job, you know, my family. I'm from a working family.
Like rocks work, Rocks have jobs, and rocks have decent jobs.

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So like doing that was one of those jobs, like
one of those rare jobs, always hiring because no one
who you know, it takes a special motherfucker to clean
ship off a grown man. Always hiring and does not
pay minimum wage, you can, like, I mean back then,
I probably made like seven or eight hour, remember just three,

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so you're nine hour. He's a bad motherfucker, you know
what I mean. Like it, And everybody in my family
always figured out, like what shitty job that doesn't pay
minimum wage? That you know? So my mother worked there.
My aun't worked there, like what my mother she talked

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them mentally handicapped for a while for a lot, you know,
in between pregnancies. And my father drove a truck for
the New York Daily News and Wrangle Brewery. Uh, my
father was this guy when I was a kid. You know,
they didn't have any black guys in the unions. So

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my father was like always like the first guy they
would bring into the union. My father's like the Jackie
Robinson and that ship not because he was like this
great driver, which he was in no accidents, but they
knew he could take it. They knew he could like
get all day and get like a bag of piss
thrown at him, and like, nigga, what do you what

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what we're talking the seventies, We're talking sixties and seventies.
H We weren't legally free, legally until okay, So when
you change a law, the ship doesn't really go into
effect the next day. You don't be like, hey, hey,

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Apple changed the fucking chargers. Still motherfucker's four years later
with the old ass chargers. Still motherfucker's at iPods right now?
You know the fucking you know, you take the Triboro
Bridge to the airport, it hasn't been the Triboro Bridge
in almost twenty thirty years. It's the fucking rf cabrig

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Like that's how long it takes ship to get implemented
from the time it's past. So just because it was
illegal to do certain ship to black people doesn't mean
that ship people literally haven't been like relax free. So
like you like you could like generally assume you're gonna

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go someplace today and no one's gonna right like spit
at you or say some fucked up shipped to you.
It still happens, Okay. So if you're preparing for life,
for like blue collar livelihood, Yeah, where in the world
is comedy coming? Like what I mean? I grew up

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in a weird block. Everybody was funny on my block,
Decayed Street in Brooklyn. I don't know, It's just a weird,
weird block. Everybody was hysterical. My uncle's were hysterical too.
I just I don't know. I just gravitated to comedy.
I love music more, but I wasn't that good. So

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I wasn't like a gifted rapper. I was a pretty
decent dj um because I was from that era. Like
we all everybody on my block, we would go see
Flash and we would like basically do whatever Flash did
the next day. So wait, you would go venture because

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I've never heard of other boroughs like going to places
where they didn't like. Was that a risk? Yeah? But
who do you think they robbed? It wasn't Robin Bronks Niggers.
They was robbed Brooklyn and Queen's mind. But if you're coming,
if you're coming from if you're not from around, that

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was dangerous, I guess, but you didn't care. They go Flash,
so it was worth that. I'm sorry they talking about
live in the YouTube where I could just look at
it in my bed. You don't understand that Flash theotore
DJ Flowers. These were superheroes and it was this was

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just literally going to see the Hulk or Iron Man.
They were doing fucking super human feats. Okay, okay, this
was like what this ship spoke to us. This was
the fucking north Star, motherfucker. Okay at the beginning of
the hip hop with gangster tapes and fucking busy be

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fucking battles and all that ship. Nigger, So you didn't
mean you just how did how did that trickle to you?
Because we just had cousins that have the tapes and
this guy's on the block or whatever, and you are
you hearing at No, not really my white school, but
when I got to a black school, yeah, it was you.

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That's just was in the air. I always hung around
guys older than me too. That was a weird thing
about me. So my crew was like all five years
older than me. Yes, I can't even go where they
go a cruise. You couldn't really go. I mean it
wasn't like, you know, one of my secrets of show
business is I've mastered the art of like just blending

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in a room with motherfucker's and not making a sound
and just let it. Motherfucker. This like the art of
having people be at ease around you. So when you're
around powerful motherfucker's and they just like, oh, he's okay, Okay,
you won't he doesn't rock the boat, like, yeah he
was here. Forgot he was here. Like I'm oh, I'm

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the master of that ship. But I'm just saying I
started at a young age, and it's like skill that
eventually got better. So I could be around Eddie Murphy,
or I could be around Prince, or I could be
I could be around I know how to be around
motherfucker's without rocking the boat. But I mean, how did
you avoid the traffickings of gang activity because you were

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a prime target to be I don't know. I mean,
I guess I wasn't a gang for a minute. I remember, remember, no, no,
I remember, like like a bullshit, bullshit. I mean, you
got realized we lived in fucking brownstones near the projects. Okay,

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so we're those guys you looking at your beautiful house. Yeah,
I mean we had you know, I lived in a Brownstone.
So here's the fuck up thing. When my dad died
in my dad died in nine Okay, so we my
dad died, we were in debt, we lost the house. Whatever.

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The house was probably worth forty grand and that same
house is like a million dollars now, So yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy if we had any money, if we could
have just held out for fucking five years, you and

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the rest of the black people in major cities. But uh,
what was the question. We're avoiding the trappings of gang,
you know, if it's avoiding, I mean, it was just wide.
Where was my follow up? So yeah, I was in
a gang. I walked through the gauntlet and got beat
up and whatever, and you're in the gang, right, But

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my follow up wasn't you know, I wasn't a gang
follow up guy, like a gang's like anything else. You
gotta follow up, You gotta be at the meeting, read
the pamphlet, you gotta you gotta watch all the episodes, whatever, whatever.
The follow up wasn't there. My follow up was comedy.

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My follow up was music. That was my follow up,
like you never went back after the beat down? Else
I was I was just wasn't with the follow up.
I wasn't with the you know, it's like, Oh, we're
gonna go downtown, We're gonna go downtown Brooklyn, snatch chains, Sam.
I'm late to that meeting. I'm not fast enough to

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be running these motherfucker's. So at what point did you
just option? I don't when people get into this, I
don't know. I'm just not. I refused to be one
of these Uh, comedy saved my life. Yeah, I refused
to be one of these fucking black guys. If it
wasn't for comedy, i'd be deader in jail. Unt was

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one of the comedy I work for UPS. Motherfucker. That's what. Okay,
you least knowledge that comedy did change the comedy? Yes,
giving me. Hey, it's twelve o'clock on a fucking Wednesday
and I'm talking shit with you. That's rich. You know,

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I don't, I don't have a boss. Whatever. You know.
That's rich but comedy. But but here's the thing. I
got two kids, I'm divorced, I live in an Okay,
I live in a great place. Guess what if I
worked at UPS, I probably have two kids. I'd probably
be the moss my house wouldn't be this nice, but

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I mean that it would be something I thought was nice.
You know what I mean I'd have I'd pretty much
have the same record collection. You know. I'd be probably
a little cheaper on what I download and whatever. I
wouldn't you know, I'd be more conscious of that for
an album or whatever, but I'd still have a ton

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of music and have a ton of comedy. So the
President United States, but you know this been doing. We're
joined by the one only Chris Rock and we're talking
about being satisfied in life and comedy not saving this
is not He's not going to make this an unsung movement. Yeah,

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and then comedy came. You know, UPS is always hiring.
So if you have always hiring, I mean, and you
know I got a bad girl now, I had a
bad motherfucker if I was the Doups. She is maybe
not name right now, pronounce the last name right now, Magdalen.
The fact that you had to look up to the

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right corner and think about I want to get it right,
is that like some part is that a country and
I'm she's Nigerian. Get out that I know evil. That's
like you're well, you know they're trying. Yeah I would,
but i'd have one. It's always a fine chick at

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Banana Republic. So so I mean, at what point did
you go from like, at what point did you go
from being the funny guy to like, oh, I'm gonna
go to catch It was catch a rising start like
the gold back then, or was it just like I
didn't I was like, Okay, I've told this story before,
but i'll tell it to you. I don't know the
story online. Yes, I was literally online at Radio's City.

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It was February eleventh, nineteen eighty four, eight five, I
forget eight four, and I was on line to get
tickets for Eddie Murphy at Radio City. This is you know,
people forget there was a world before ticket you know whatever.
People used to stand online blocks. Yeah, purporting tour, Victory tour,

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same thing. Um. Anyway, so I'm I'm on block four,
like Eddie Murphy tickets were ridiculous, and I'm just sitting
there reading the paper because I'm assuming i gotta whatever
a four hour wait wait easily. And while I'm reading

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the paper, because I was that nerdy motherfucker, I saw
add for comedy clubs and it's one said catch right
at the Star, and I was like, okay, let me
go there. And I walked from Radio City to Catch
I don't know, forty blocks or whatever the Fox. No,

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I never got the tickets, and uh, they were having
audition night, so so I went from one line to another.
So I went there and say that with thirty one
to be comedians outside, today's audition night. So first I
went to Comic Strip. It wasn't audition. I went to Catch,
which is around a quarter and it was audition night.

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So I asked some guy, like what do you do?
So well, guy comes out, We pick a number at
six o'clock and then you come back around ten o'clock
or whatever, and you get to do five minutes if
you're one of the seven. So you come back at eight, right,
And I got lucky number seven, and I came back

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called my boy Hammy and keV and me him, me,
Kevin and Darren. I believe. And I auditioned that night.
And I've never been in a comedy club. You free
stout eventually freestop because I've never been in a comedy club.
So I'm in this club. They sat us like in

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the back of the side and I watched it. I
was literally watching my first non famous comedians. So this
first time I've seen like a comedian not on it
Tonight Show. Just like I'm like, wow, there's a lot
of comedians there. So I watched these guys for about
two hours and then you know, to three hours, and
like late in the night, it was my turn, and
I went up and I did. I would say it

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was three minutes and I killed yeah, and the guy
told me I passed the audition. This guy named Mike
Egan told me I passed the audition. Was like the
creative director of Catcherizing Star and I've been doing it
ever since. If he didn't tell me, he said, you
passed audition. You can work here any night you want.

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If he doesn't say that to me, I probably don't
go back. It's probably like this thing I did. It
was fun. Yeah, it was probably a one off, but
him telling you, uh, just some dumb jokes. I remember
I had one stupid joke Miles Davis is so black
lighting the bugs follow him in the daytime. That was like,

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that was one of the joke alive. I thought you
said when your home name was Hammy, Is that Hamm
came from Yeah, Hammy, Hammy might be ten years older
than me, but he's like this, like the old guy
on the block. He would give you work like he

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owned the Brownstone, his parents dad, he had to Brownstone.
He'd have me and my boy Darren like, Okay, you're
gonna strip the wood, you know, underpay us to do
fucking horrible jobs. And uh but he always had like
comedy albums and ship like he was like that guy.
He was like the black guy that had a rush album.
It's like playing really influential. Yeah, there's a lot of drugs,

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a lot of drugs around, a lot of a lot
of music, a lot of DJs on my block, a
lot of I want to be comics but really want
to be DJ. Who famous was in your proximity Maybe
you didn't know at the time, Like was Lee Little
Thomas across the street or no, you know lived right
around the corner. We used to play football against um

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what's my man jam on it? Uh? Nucleus Nucleus Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Cosmo Cosmo d Cosmo D lived literally I was on
the cad of Cosmo deals on Bainbridge. Uh my first
you know, I went you know before I dropped out,
I was in a black school for a minute, right,
boys and girls High. Fresh Gordon, you know, Fresh Fresh

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Gordon was in there. Fresh Gordon, who allegedly, you know
he made oh yeah, but allegedly he made the beat
for Larry Love. Of course allegedly he did, because it's
the same guy damn beat. And I refused to believe that.
Gavin Christopher, he like it's his production. He and I

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argue about this on Facebook. I'm like, there's no way.
And allegedly he did a couple of those Herbie love
Bug beats for Salt and Pepper. Allegedly. No, I believe
that Fresh Gordon made Especie. Yeah, so he was there.
There was a group called the Dynamite Too, made a

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record call Can't Stop Till I reached the top, and um,
what the fund is that other record? I forget the other.
I used to like load crates for them and carry
crates for them. They played the Roxy a couple of times. Uh.
Freddie B and the Mighty Mike Masters. Oh you know
Freddy B the Mighty Mike Masters. Yeah, like right across

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the street. One of my oldest friends. Literally, I lived
at six nine Team Freddie be lived at six ten. Okay,
so Freddie being a mighty Mike Masses in their Dwayne
Pearl Washington's in my homeroom class, one of the greatest
college basketball players of all time. Uh just died. Uh

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Prince markt D's around there. Uh a lot of cats, man,
Like you know, lots of lots. I'm trying to say,
who am I forgetting? Uh? I don't know. I mean,
but I hung out too. I mean, you know, I
went to the Fever a little bit. I was at

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the Latin Quo. I'm a big Latin quarter guy. Yeah,
That's where I was going to go. So I was.
I was in the Latin Quarter. No interviews complete without
Latin Quarters Quarter fun house. Uh, what the fun is
the one on fifty seventh Street. No, not Bentley's, Bentley's
or some other shop. Oh my god, Bentley's Nigga. Bentley's

(31:55):
was the ultimate R and B spot of all time?
Did you have to dress R and B where they like?
It was like it was like one of those places
that's like funck hip hop. It was like fuck hip hop.
This is Lelo Thomasville. This is because all the bad

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girls are a bit Ley's. You know, fine girl like
Eddie Murphy hug out at Bentley's Eddie Murphy, Rick James,
like after they left Studio fifty they go to Bitley's
still a thing in the eighties. No, not really, but
it was openly open. It was like technically open. Sometimes
I'm trying to think the Red Parrot was the one

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on seven Street, which is part but Red Parrot was
like the cross between Bentley's and the Latin Quarter. So
it was like it was R and B and like
a Paradise garage. Guy like no, no, no, that was
too gay for me. That was like, I mean, I
was young, like you know when you're young. It was
not that I was homophobic. I was just like, what

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is that? What is that? What is that? I see? Yeah,
you're just like okay, you guys. Plus I hated the
house music There's a Bad Girl. But the girls, my god,
the girls that were at the Paralyzed Garage were just ridiculous.
So I was a big figuring out when a club
let out and being outside was let out and kind

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of act like you was, We're going to the thing,
We're gonna get some pancakes and so and so like
like he was there all that. Man. I hate the
fact that in two thousand seventeen, I'm finally understanding with
parking lot pimpen I let out, big parking lot, pimp,

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parking lot. Wait were you driving back? You know I
had a Toyota Corolla. Uh my father had a seventies
six uh light blue El Dorado. Occasionally then I would
steal from him occasionally. You know, it wasn't that, you know,

(34:18):
I wasn't you know, once crack came out, motherfucker's was
driving Benzes and ship you were just done. But for
a minute there, any car worked. Having a car in
New York, they seemed like a privilege. I don't know.
I mean when I was a black kid, I was
never getting a cab. So and you know, the train

(34:40):
was like, you know, it was before Julietta. Ship was crazy.
So you know that ship. Plus I was just weird.
I wanted to go to all the ship. I wasn't
getting high, so I got out a lot like my
boys would. You know, every Friday, everybody come from their
shitty job or whatever the fuck, and we would talk
about going and somewhere, and of course no one would

(35:02):
ever make it anywhere. Because they've been based in cocaine.
But I thought she meant weed. I'm sorry, he said hi.
I was like, oh no, So you get off work,
it's like anybody, Yeah, we're gonna go to the city.
We're gonna go to the Deuce and you know, and
six becomes okay, we're gonna leave at seven, and seven
becomes nine and nine and then okay, we're gonna smoke

(35:22):
for just a little while. Basically, you know whatever, we
became coke, which became crack. So that role you played
in New Jack City was not I I didn't think
you did. I wanna say you did. I was just
meaning that it was you didn't have to go and
find do some research. No, no, no, no, no. Everybody
I was with was, you know, doing something. So because

(35:43):
I didn't really you know, I drank and I had
a high tolerance, so weird. I had a much higher
tolerance than I do now because my father drove for
Wrangel Brewery. So like one of his first jobs before
the Daily knew, so you know, was a lot of
giving here, drink this, drink this. When I was a kid,

(36:04):
I would go to his job. This is how there
wasn't even a thing called drunk driving. Back then, it
was just acceptable. So they had they just had a
water fountain and a beer fountain that looked exactly like
the water fowla what the brewery like dream. It was
like it was like Homer and I don't even drink, yeah,

(36:28):
like and they lift you up. And I remember my uncle,
my uncle John was kind of alcoholic, and I just
remember being cars with him going to South Carolina, him
drinking the whole way, never never thinking twice about it,
never feeling in danger at all. Sometimes we would have

(36:52):
to this is a story, uh like whenever like like uh,
like my grandfather died, or about old uncle died. This happens.
It still happens today. So an old black person dies
a guy, and what happens is you the good part
of the family. Your job is to go get the
guns before the bad part of the family comes. It's

(37:16):
the Carolina trip. Sometimes sometimes it's so it's like everyone,
he's like, oh, ship, granddaddy died. We gotta get down
here and get them before Junior and Ronald get there,
before your bad cousins get there. We gotta get these

(37:38):
guns and throw them away. We can't let the guns
get into the wrong hands. Yeah, that's real though. Side note,
do you know no one here has done that? No, Steve,
I mean sometimes the toy Jackson with Michael you didn't

(38:01):
hear the story. God, okay, so did you have a
porn get all the porn out of his house? Apparently?
Steve is my porn guy. By the way, if I died,
for if you die, would clear my Google search bar.
Steve Steven knows where all the bodies are hidden. Um apparently,
so when Michael Jackson passed and every family member is

(38:25):
running to uh see her Sini in l A, she
ran right to his apartment where the blackest apartment where
I mean he had a condo and somewhere in Beverly
Hills and knew where the stash of five million dollars
cash was inside the wall, like Mike had a just

(38:46):
in case it. But that's some real ship. Like I
don't know any black person, do you have a just
in case some ship happens? Nike makes me want to Uh,
I just don't believe in it because it just makes
people like want to rob you the world between having

(39:09):
you know, work done at your house. That's I don't
believe in safe you know, safe, just make somebody want
to come back and rob, like, tie you up. I
just know I know motherfucker's that have been tied up
and beat the funk down, Like where is it? Where
is that? I know? Yeah, I definitely know a couple

(39:30):
of cats have been tied up and shipped themselves. Oh
ship do we know? Celebrity cats almost and just like
motherfucker just had you know, to say, ten thousand dollars
worth of jewelry and a safe. But it's a safe,
so everybody thinks there's so much ship in there. So

(39:54):
you're like you put a rolex in there, and you're like,
put your rolex in your drawer. Do not get us
safe for your fucking rolex. Somebody is gonna break in
your house and they're gonna think you have a lot more.

(40:18):
All right, tell me a legendary Latin Quarter story, because wait,
did you ever perform at the Latin Quarter? No? Never
performed at the I mean, what do I have? It's
so weird. It's like when I see Latifa kidn't play
or light or like a lot have you have when

(40:39):
he was alive, like a bunch of it. It's like
we went to a high school together because we all
know each other from the quarter. It's like a ton
of us, you know, all the guys from x clan,
like just a bunch of motherfucker's that just we all
went to this fucking same club. I remember, I don't

(40:59):
know what's a good story, just being again, I just
had this weird ability to blend in with motherfucker's. So
I remember coming outside the quarter and Eric be playing
me the beat from Follow the Leader just at this,
sitting at Eric B's truck with a bunch of other
young cats, just like and Eric be explaining to you

(41:23):
what the fucking records is going to be, and you're
so into the ship you knew you and Rob's gonna
say this, and he's gonna say, like he that ship.
I remember being outside. It's weird, just being outside the
thing and Chuck playing the beat from uh Welcome to
the Terror Dome. Wh Yeah, and just hearing that ship

(41:46):
this in a truck, like just him opening up the
back and playing that ship. I remember being in the
Quarter when Rebel without a Pause came out, okay, and
and watching Mellie mell get piste the funk off every
time you heard that ship because he thought Chuck was

(42:08):
taking his ship and that motherfucker would walk to the
DJ booth and skipped the record. But who's gonna test them?

(42:30):
That old on that motherfuckers like this, This is the
real deal. Nellie mel and Scorpio. The motherfucker's always ran together, right,
The brothers, I don't know, they're like, you know, it's
like like Bobby and Ralph Tresbant, always hiding together. It's
like Mellie Mellon Scorpio. I remember, I remember being in

(42:56):
a car. I remember again, I just had this weird billy.
Do you remember I'm outside the hip hop story. I'm
outside the the rock the Bells tour. Okay, so l
L is at the garden and I'm just like I
might have been, and I'm gonna get you sucker, Like
I'm like, I'm so I'm outside the garden, you know,

(43:20):
saying one rib, trying to get in the garden. How
do I get it? Like, you know, everybody thought they
knew somebody right anyway, Mike Tyson gets me in, right, Mike, hey,
you you you know Eddie whatever, I'm in the garden.
Me and Mike Tyson like right, like whether you figure

(43:44):
out the year, me and Mike Tyson and Naomi Campbell
on top of chairs. The other thing too, is I
always looked like you think I look young for my age.
Now I looked so back then. Yeah, when I was twenty,
I twelve. So it was it was like, hey, I
let the kid head. It was a big that was

(44:06):
a big part of it. So I remember, I remember
Scott le Roc had just died, so watching Carrass wont
to do his first show at the Garden, like literally
the week Scott Larroc died. Uh it, yes, yes, yes, yes,
watching Public Enemy for the first time, like unfurrel, What

(44:27):
the funk this is? They're on early, like like you know,
doing the first album? You know? Uh what then is it?
You know? Yo bone Rush? The show you know is
a ton like that show, but they had the hot
Jam at the time, so they do rubble without a pause.

(44:47):
So it's me Mike and Naomi like that ship LL
watching l L come out the radio. But um so
we went to a party later and Naomi gave uh
Scorpio her number while she's with Mike Tyson she was

(45:09):
hanging and then okay, you know, you know Scorpio, Hey
White Lines was out, motherfucker. It wasn't it wasn't dead,
you know, I mean, like you know what I mean,
like Grandmaster Flash furious that ship wasn't dead. That's Mike.

(45:30):
Mike Tyson not gonna out, Mike, That's fucking Mike. This
is before ears in jail, you know. Anyway, So he
was a cool person because I always hear people like
hanging out with Mike Tyson. But Mike Tyson is the
best guy to hang out. Yeah. I used to love
hanging out with Mike Tyson. Uh, Mike Tyson is very
vulnerable too, like very I remember, I'm digressing, but I

(45:53):
remember the last time I hung out with him. We're
both in Okay, I'll get we're both in Jersey. How
we're in Jersey, I don't know. We're like some house
party or some ship. How the funk we're there, I
don't know. Anyway, We're at the blackest party in the world. Okay,
she is black in Jersey. Right, it's SIMI adult life

(46:16):
rock kind of famous, right, Yeah, I'm anyway, So we're there.
Me and Mike Tyson are kind of drunk, and we're
both kind of like fun. We both called ourselves ugly
and We're like, Uh, if we weren't rich, we could
never get these girls. We're like, we're just depressed. But

(46:36):
the funny thing that happened at night, it was it's
the blackest party in the world. Keyshawn Johnson's there, a
bunch of Jets and walks Bill Belichick, who's not even
the coach of the Jets. The Bill Belichick walks into
the blackest party in the test, looks at key Shot

(46:59):
and maybe one other Jet and goes come on, gets
them and gets like you nigga is going to bed.
We got a game that's a record scratch. Belichicks in here.
He was when he was like a coordinator. He's not

(47:20):
even a head coach anyway. Naomi Campbell gave her number
two scorpio. Mike Tyson realizes this, and this is there's
a slow boil cut to me Mike Tyson and Naomi
Campbell in a car going up Madison Avenue and Mike

(47:43):
Tyson kicking Naomi Campbell out of a moving car. I
don't even understand this. Use the original what's his foot
with at his actual thing on his foot? I'm just like, yeah,

(48:04):
I was back in the day, go back. I've seen
a lot, so let's go back to let's go so
comedy saved your life and was come on kid, stop
saying you guys. All right, So this quest during Chris
Rockin's I guess this weekend, we're talking about kicking benches

(48:26):
out of the car. The baddest motherfucker of all time.
Oh my god. Anyway, I remember after I did like
Bring the Pain or something, I'm in l A. I'm
at whatever fly Hotel and I see Nailmi Campbells. She's
like Chris, Chris. I was like, finally I'm going to
get this pussy whatever. I'm all over the play with

(48:54):
some hosted MTV A. Well, it's like like back when
I was Drake, like like I was that. Yeah. I
was like, yeah, what's up? And she's like, do you
have Eddie's number? I can't get this. She saw you

(49:15):
when you come up. She was like, no, I know
he really yeah, yeah, we both saw each other on
to come up. So there you go. All right, you
never got it. Speaking of Eddie, speaking of the Black Pack,
I mean, I mean, I know there's a myth of
the Black Pack is like l a wrap, It's just Dray.

(49:35):
It's just Dray and it's just Stray. Every this is
Dray and iced tea and everything else, everything else has
a Dray tentacle alight. It was like, literally, who's Dray
and so Eddie Murphy. So the black pack is Eddie Murphy.
Every literally him, how dost him? I met Eddie at

(49:59):
the Comic Strip in New York. I was there one night.
I wasn't even on the schedule. I was just like
hanging out watching comedians. I was gonna stack chairs later,
like just earned my way on the stage. And he
came in and it was really Eddie Murphy was not
Dr Doolo Murphy. It's like leather suit Like people don't
realize Eddie Murphy used to wear leather suits like just

(50:22):
on a tooth. Like this motherfucker was eldest or some ship.
This ship was like he was like thor he was
like Iron Man and mother fucking we used to walk
around with boots and fucking leather suits or or zebra
skins like crazy. Like anyway, so he comes in. You

(50:42):
know I was walking, you know, you look outside just
like five pushes and he's got the real entourage and
he's got the baddest girl you ever seed and you're like,
god damn it, he's got shades on in the fucking inside.
And they didn't have any black comics on that night,
and he asked the owner of the club, like are

(51:03):
the black guys where? It's like, oh, we have them
right here. That literally it's literally how it went out.
And um I went on. You know, I guess I'd
been doing it maybe three years at that point something
like that, and I killed. I ripped it and like,

(51:25):
are you planning or you just free st that? Like whatever?
It's like, what do you plan? Like I plan a
DJ gig? Like you really weird. I saw you this weekend.
You de I was like, oh, ship, this is all
planned out. You got to plant it? Um did I plan?
I didn't plan on meeting Eddie Murphy that night? I
mean I planned on working on the set in front

(51:45):
of five people. Are you planning one day? Like Richard
Pryor might walk in and I want to be on
my best or but even then, like do you want
to kill in front of them? Like what if you're
like a threat? Like save some guy that you see
now is like red hot at eighteen? Are you saying
to yourself like are you looking at Michael Jay like

(52:08):
might be a threat or oh I can help him out.
I'm twenty years older than Michael Jay, So I mean
we're always going to appeal to different people and put away.
If if I thought like a guy like Michael Jay
wasn't on the path to success, yes, I would try
to help. Say hey, I did it with Leslie Jones,

(52:29):
Like hey, Lauren, you should look at this person I've
done in a J B school. I got his job
over there. You're the reason we have two black women,
thank you, you know. I mean, it's a bunch of
there's a bunch of people far too many to fucking
you know, and he's done the same. I feel like
you and him genuinely want to help. But like, Okay,

(52:50):
there's a certain MC I won't name that I know
will associate himself with someone with lesser swag. It might
have a little street credibility going on that has less
lesser swag, But he will never stand to someone that's

(53:14):
a real threat to him and outsign him. But he'll choose,
like he's very choosy on who he picks to endorse
and take their cool from, because you know, it ups
his street credit. But won't really co sign or get
in the ring with someone that could really I mean

(53:37):
post white, unless a person is a celebrity. Young cats
are young cats, and I don't know. I try to
help him, to try to you know, Eddie was cool
to me. Keenan was cool to me. Uh. You know,
there was a bunch of guys that would talk to
me when they didn't have to talk to me. So
I try to you know, if somebody asked me a question,
Trevor Noah calls me or Michael or whatever. You know,

(54:00):
I try to drop knowledge as far as peers, I mean,
like Dave. I love Dave, and I mean, technically, are
you do you consider ten years older than Dave? So
what's what's the generation? And comedians you have to be
ten years? I don't know what it is. I mean,

(54:21):
on paper, we should probably hate each other because we're
you know, p funking Earth went in fire. We're always
gonna be you know what I mean. Uh, Eddie and
Prior weren't boys. Richard and Prior weren't boys. Uh. I
don't know. I've made a conscious decision that I'm gonna

(54:41):
love Dave. They did. I'm nice together, but they weren't.
They weren't boys. You know, I don't I don't want
to speak too much out of whatever, but they weren't boys. Okay.
I was never in Eddie's houses, so Richard, you know,
eating chicken or no chef, you know what I mean.
And I was like, you know, I mean, I never

(55:02):
saw them hang out it stuff on a movie set,
you know what I mean. They acknowledge each other, and
you know what I mean, Like this, don't you know
they're not at a fight together and none of that
ship they're not. They acknowledged each other. And Richard was
older than Eddie, so does that ship. But you know,
I love Dave. I mean, Dave is, for my money,

(55:23):
the best in the world. Really. It's like the guy
that like, I'm like, sometimes I see him and I
gotta wrap my mind around what the funk he just did.
I'm like, God, damn it, how do you do that ship? Yeah?
So I don't know, I don't know. I don't. I'm
it's too much fun when you play with people, you
know what I mean, It's too much fun to have

(55:45):
like it's lonely being good, you know what I mean.
So if you see somebody else good it's you know,
what I mean is it is it even harder to
be friends with someone that's not as good, that doesn't
know it yet. I don't do bad talent. I don't
I don't know. I don't hang out with untalented people.
I don't fuck intalented people I don't like. Because I

(56:09):
sit next to untalented people I don't like. I always think, uh,
you know, you know, shitty artistry is sexually transmitted, So
I don't funk with that ship. Dave said, none of
the things said that you're a critic, So it's like
I'm tough. He's tough too, Uh, but you're I mean,

(56:34):
what makes you comfortable enough? I mean, I respect the
fact that you will just like a worth. I mean
some guys that I think aren't that good, but I
like their work ethic. And then there's some guys. There's
some guys I think are great. I'm not gonna say names.
I think are hysterical and hate their work ethic, and
they piss me off. It's like, oh, this smellfucker's wasting

(56:56):
ridiculous talent. Oh my boy, Okay, you know I'm going off.
There's a few of them. Oh I wish I was
as funny as this guy or this guy. Oh you're
talking about comedy just in comedy. Yeah yeah, it's like
like I ain't the funniest comedian. Uh. You know, there's

(57:17):
some funny motherfucker's that just don't work on their ship
that don't you know, how does that happen? Treat it
specially because sometimes there's still some person that's doing an
o J joke that's like you know, yeah, I mean
sometimes it's happen. You see it in sports sometimes that
when the game comes too easy to you. So when
the game comes too easy to you, it's hard to like,

(57:39):
it's hard to be Lebron. It's hard to be physically
better than everybody and practice more, you know what I mean,
that's fucking hard. Well, you're also a guy who you
let me. I'm sacked that you want to work on
your material and unorthodox places that aren't easy for you.

(58:00):
He told me to go to certain clubs in Florida
that you know, isn't your audience or whatever, and you
feel like, Okay, well if I'm funny here, then I
know it's good for my special weeks. Yeah I liked it. Well,
I'm you know, I'm I'm old. I remember Muhammad Ali,
and you know he would go somewhere, they go up

(58:23):
in the mountains and they would train, and training was
eight weeks, and for eight weeks, if he lived a
certain way, he could beat anybody in the whole world.
So I try to like adapt that thing, like, Okay,
let's get away, let's get away from all the distractions.
And you know, okay, maybe it's not eight weeks, but

(58:44):
it's two weeks or three weeks, so you'll go to
a comedy club in Columbus, Ohio, or trying to find
a spot in Nashville right now, like something. So you
are you saying like I want to pick the places
where no one would ever find me funny, not even
not find me funny. I'm just trying to get away,
like really get away from my comfort zone, so genuine

(59:07):
laugh and not like the question. When you're around your friends,
you don't even have to complete sentences, you don't even
have to finish words. When you're not around your people,
now you have to enunciate, you know what I mean.
But the thing is, okay, now, when you told me
that you would go to West Palm sometimes, yeah, but

(59:28):
how do you know that they're just not blinded by
your celebrity, because comedy is this not that common. Celebrity
only works for six eight minutes and then people you deal.
When you're a musician, you know, no disrespect, but I'll
disrespect him. I'll go a funk. I look at these

(59:51):
motherfucker's going on stage singing songs they wrote thirty years ago,
twenty years ago, five years ago, whatever the funk that
they've sung the hundred times. That ship's easy because it's proven.
The audience knows it now. I gotta do what I
what a comedian has to do is literally give people

(01:00:14):
brand new hit records every night, like an hour and
twenty minutes of brand new hits they've never heard before.
What the funk? So, no audience is faking that love? Right?
You don't want it from a musician, but you want
it from a comedian. You want new ship, you do
not want old. Hey, I can watch Delirious. I've watched

(01:00:36):
I've probably watched Delirious four times. But if I went
and saw Eddie Murphy lived, be mad as a motherfucker
if he did jokes from Delirious. When people go see
live comedy, they want live comedy. They almost want to
feel like you got this ship. You thought this ship
up tonight, which is why Dave makes it so hard
for you to take the shows. And he has all

(01:00:57):
these different assets that which is dope because pass it around.
And yeah, I still say you should do your greatest
hit story, like yeah, that sh it's done. I did it.
I did it, I did it. I mean, you know,
it's weird before all this, you know, I don't really
want to talk about, but before all this Cosby ship happened,

(01:01:18):
I definitely was going to do a part in the
tour where I did like a long Cosby bit. But
I can't do that ship now because it's just, you know,
it's too hot, his spots too hot. And you know
didn't have favorite. Is that why it wouldn't have is
that it was like favorite, not Favorite, I mean, not

(01:01:38):
talking about him, but doing I was gonna I was
gonna do one. I suggested that I was going to
see that the dentist bid or the whole Russell whom
up my brother Russell man, you know what I mean,
Like that would be so cool to do one of
his bits, but I'm not gonna. You know, you can't.
People can't separate. I don't think you do, Cosby, but

(01:02:01):
I think you should do something I think I might do,
like some Rotney jokes or something I don't know, but
um like danger Danger Philly awesome. Yeah, I mean, I
just I wouldn't mind doing it. You don't like you
go to every rap show there's a sucking the Tupac
Biggie tribute. It's like, that's what I'm saying. It's like, okay,
in a comedy show, you got your fucking Rodney Cosby.

(01:02:26):
You Yeah, right, dude, that's what I want you to
do this. I still got to right a fucking hour
and a half of my own ship. But that I'm
just saying a part of the show. You know, maybe
that's my own car, Maybe that's my uncle. That's a
a fucking great, safe own car. Yes, I believe that.

(01:02:47):
I think you should do that. Can't do Cosby. So
let's you know, let's not talk. You're from Philly, and uh,
I'm not bringing up not at all. So you you
said you killed in front of the like, did you
know he was watching at the time. Yeah, I mean
they brought me up. I met him and I went
up and I did my thing and I heard And

(01:03:11):
what did you feel inside when you hear that? You
know I was. I was a cocky young kid. I was.
You weren't humble, like, oh gosh to meet you, sir.
I mean I was humbled to meet him. I mean,
obviously he was my fucking idol. You know what I mean.
He's not even that much old. He's like five years
older than me, but uh but he might as well
be five years older. Men, Yeah, for what have you done?

(01:03:36):
He was a lot older than me mature mature wise anyway.
And uh but you know, I mean put his away.
I was so cocky as a kid. I'm not you
know me, I'm not that guy now. But when I
was a kid, I listened to his first album, the
one at the comic strip with the you know, booginet whatever,

(01:03:57):
and I just thought, I'm I could do this ship
like I like it. And I loved everything he did
and didn't like that album. So you still feel that
way now? I like it more is that his Yobam
Russ show. That's funny because I like that record better
than like Delirious Delirious. I was allowed to watch Delirious,
so all my Delirious. I know Delirious based on people

(01:04:21):
doing it in school and basically Will Smith. I just realized,
like for longest, Delirious was never available on DVD or
any format, like when we were touring in the nineties,
So when it finally came out on like DVD like
maybe like ninety eight whatever, then I finally realized, like,

(01:04:42):
oh god, Will Smith has just been doing Delirious on
the Fresh Prince of bel Air, Like I don't realize
that well, I mean his it's attempted. I mean, of
course you know that Will Smith studied everything about and
then may that his person that uh yeah, delarious is

(01:05:03):
fucking yeah. I wish I could the ice cream. It's
like he should make the ice cream. Man. Imagine being
the Imagine being in a coma during the whole duration
of Michael Jackson's meteoric rise between like one to like

(01:05:28):
let's let's give him some bad years to eighty nine,
Like that was me blood on the dance floor. That's
what you're talking. Like if I were in a coma
right at the tail end of Off the Wall and
I woke up like maybe at the end of Dangerous,
like I just everything anything. Eddie Murphy related was just
taken away from me as not not even like coming

(01:05:49):
to America. So you said that he took you to
l A like at what point? Literally? So we hung
out that night a little bit. I went up the boat.
I was at Bubble Hill, Like, what was that ship? Like?
Seeing at the eight How you were seventeen at this time?
Front nineteen named the Bubble Hill so weird. I live

(01:06:13):
in that neighborhood now, it's so crazy, so crazy. Uh yeah,
hung out. We went to see what he's all right,
We're going to movies tomorrow, meet usaid whatever Broadway and
seventy ninth or whatever the funk it was. We all
and you know, and I'm out there waiting. The next thing,

(01:06:34):
you know, there's whatever, three limos, four limos of guys
and ship and chicks, and we saw she's gotta have it.
Spike Lee was selling T shirts outside the theaters. First
time I met Spike what uh oh my god. We're
talking in the movie the whole time. I can only
imagine no, no, no special screening for him, No, no,

(01:06:56):
no no. I was just like, it's like, there's a
black guy making that made his own movie. Let's go
see it and we saw she's gotta have it hung
out and you know he's asking me about you know,
I was. I guess I was like his liaison to
the streets, to the club to you know, he was

(01:07:17):
thinking about touring and ship. So it's like a lot
of like is so and so still there. It was
like a lot of that ship him asking me about
comedians and ship and uh, he's like, hey, we're going
to l A tomorrow. You want to hang Yeah? What then?
Why that means get on the plane or do they
did you send you a pen? He goes, No, fruity,
make sure Chris Rock's gotta ticket. And it's like, fruity,

(01:07:40):
he gets Chris Rock a ticket. I'm there and it's
this is your first trip, it's my first plane ride.
Was it in mind? I mean, was it a mind
for you? It was a mind funk? A little bit.
It was a mind fuck. Uh, it was a little
bit of a mind funck without the l A state,
up state, up first hotels, all that ship met our

(01:08:02):
CITYO met Robert Towson met Keenan met Damon met you know,
you know all the other Waynes brothers, Sean and Marlin. Uh.
Time everybody's in l A. Did you not know them
from their New York run? Damon a new Damon? I

(01:08:23):
wot's say Damon had been on SNL for a minute. Uh,
oh that's right. Forgot about that too. Yeah, I want
to say Damon been on SNL for a minute, but uh,
I ended up with two lines of Beverly Hills cop Uh.
Audition for the Tonight show didn't get it, but Eddie's

(01:08:44):
manager liked me, so I ended up being signed by
Eddie's manager and Richie Tinkin just in one fell swoop
like yeah, everybody for a second, you know, like you know,
it's like like we are like every guy's like the
next Jordan, right or the next Lebron. I was one
of the you know, I was a guy might be

(01:09:04):
next Yeah, this guy might be the next Eddie Murphy.
I was like, when you did that for the first time,
when you did Our Senio for the first time, how
far was that? Because I remember the night you did
your first our Site. That was probably a couple of
years after that. I was in high school, so it
was like our Citio. We did that Uptown Comedy Express

(01:09:26):
thing Uptown Comedy. Yeah, so we did that No Uptown
Comedy Express was HBO special right right with like Marshall Warfors,
Marshall Field, Barry Sobel. Yeah, I remember that. Robert got
in trouble for watching that. Have you played with Eddie?
Have you been in the basement and had to play drums?
I got summoned to work on some music. There you go.

(01:09:50):
He hired me twice to dj. Uh there's parties for him?
Um but yeah, I think, yeah, we just gave each other.
I guess too. I think knowing you is Eddie Murphy enough?
Like I don't know, you know, you know, like when
you might not want to meet sir, I wouldn't want

(01:10:10):
to meet Michael Jackson. I don't know if I want
to meet Eddie Murphy. Yeah, no, no, I'm hey man,
I'm you say, like he's still the funniest guy in
the room, the funniest at the room. He's still the
funniest guy in a room. And even I still a
little bit fucking intimidated by him. I just hung out
with him. But he likes you, and you know, he
a couple of months ago. Sometimes he likes me. But

(01:10:33):
howel out that you've come up. He's been great I can't.
I mean, he's usually the first call when I do
something good. Whatever he's so the night after bringing the pain,
everything changed. Yes, he was the first call, literally first call,
and what he said just you did it great. It
was amazing, all that ship, every everything you want to hear,
you know, Eddie sein felt whatever, But I was. I

(01:10:56):
was with Eddie. We we share a business manager. Uh,
we share a business manager. Me, Eddie and Arsineo have
the same business manager. And you know, we go little head.
He's not broke, so I guess this guy's good. So anyway,
our business manager was getting married, and so we're all
at because you want to go to your business manager's wedding,

(01:11:17):
you don't, you don't. You don't want to mad at
you for anything we've got, you know. So we're all
flying back. We Eddie had a plane going back, so
we flew back together. So it's me, Eddie and ar
Cineo on a plane together, just fucking chilling, talking talking
ship and at one point Eddie's talking about watching the
hip hop otters and ship and he said something about

(01:11:40):
he met carriss One and he starts doing a caress
One impression. It's the funniest ship in the world, Carriss
Eddie Murphy going, my raps will destroy you. He has
probably might do one. Caress One's the funniest shit ever.

(01:12:04):
My wraps will destroy you, like the ultimate over annunciator.
I had no idea you didn't do as you know,
like the hashtag well actually is on the line that okay,
So whenever Jay z Ivant caress one, it's always well, actually,

(01:12:30):
raps will destroy you. I told that to Dave and
Cute Tip one night, and pretty much anytime we text
each other it ends with my my wraps will destroy you.
When's the last time you texted that to Cute Tip?

(01:12:53):
I don't know. Two weeks ago. You know, you want
to know something when cut Tip was in the scene
that you're in now, you mustn't type that to him
because he's like, he was going to explain the inside joke.
He's like, wait, Chris has this joke about he said
about and he's like, no, it's too far to go into.
And I was like, I'm almost certain that that was Dave.

(01:13:18):
You know, Dave will start crying the thought of Eddie
doing caress one, So like, how do you nuance? First
of all, my raps caress every time he lives in
l A. Now he lives in to pinker Canyon and

(01:13:38):
whenever I see him, I go to pank A Canyon,
to pang A Canyon, and he's another He's another anti
airplane rapper. He doesn't fly. Oh God, every summer he

(01:14:01):
turns down the roots picnic because, uh, the Queen Mary.
It's it's a two week process for him to take
the boat boat dog Harris one. There there are there
are a slew of rappers from the eighties that are

(01:14:21):
definitely afraid of flying. Rock him carriss One like pretty
much if they were under the Rush roster. Maybe he
was a bad flight one time in their lives. Public
Enemy is the only group active maybe l O that
I know that has gotten over flying to Europe or
flying anywhere. Carriss One, Uh will drive himself to any

(01:14:43):
place in the United States. He won't get on the
plane in the United States. And yeah him and rock
him take the Queen Mary. I didn't even know that before. Yes,
the Queen Mary to to England and mentor Europe that way.
Well here's the crazy thing. I will bet. I'll bet
you a thousand dollars right now. One of them can't
swiping to say you won't take that bet. So I mean, alright,

(01:15:21):
so when you're establishing, I'm assuming that you're I'm assuming
that you're New York. You're you're New York base of comedy. Uh.
I think I made a too earlier. I think I
made a record in the studio. What Buster and eminem

(01:15:43):
like on an unreleased Buster record or something. This is
not the place Tupac with shot? Yes it is. This
is Quad. I thought it was no elevator downstairs? Were
you in the right or the left elevator when you
got it? When he came in, Q, he got shot
in a lot B Yes, downstairs Quad? This is not

(01:16:03):
this is two PACs. I came in, Okay. When you
walked in the door, did you get on the right
elevator or the left elevator? Okay, I gotta look at
it again, right or left elevator? What block will be
on at night? You're in denial, dude? Yes, I was
there that night. Yes, I think this is I think
they move Quad. No, dog, I know this place because

(01:16:27):
I made I made no Sex in the champagne room
at Quad, and all my all my albums were at
Quadqua a little bit electric lady, Let did you do
the stuff for an Older Baster second album? Yes, the
Old Dirty Bastt second album. Yeah, yeah, was upstairs Corell

(01:16:51):
and oldb upstairs. I was downstairs. That wasn't playing. Was happening.
I wanted Old Dirty Bassett for my album and wanted
on walls no more. So I did my part of
Old Dirty Bassett's album right, because I'm a professional. Of course,

(01:17:12):
by the time it was time for ODB to do
whatever sketch we wrote for my album, he was too
fucked up to do it. So he's in the booth
and he's just spouting shit. He's just high as mother.
He might have been swatting at imaginary flies like he
was so fucked up. He completely made it all up.

(01:17:32):
He completely made it all up. And my man Ali
thought of a concept. Ali Leroy thought of the concept
Words of Wisdom with the Old Dirty Baskett, And so
me Ali and Prince Paul and we're like, okay, so,

(01:17:55):
who who are your peers at this at this point?
What is your home? Basis a cancer rising, starry home?
Basis that the comedy seller Now well, no, not now,
but I'm saying back in my peers, Adam Sandlers, my
pier Colin Quinn's my pier, Mario Joyners, my Pierre Brett
Butler is my pier. Uh. John Ridley, who wrote Yeah,

(01:18:23):
was a was a comedian. Wait what was a comedian?
You know what? I told me that John Ridley was
a comedian. He worked with all of us. Was my
pier uh. Scott Carter, the longtime producer of Bill Mars Show,
was my pier. Um. Yeah. Lots of cool cats. Gary
Laser uh, Fred Stoler Uh, Jim Mandrinos, like guys you

(01:18:50):
just never heard of. But are they still actively working? Oh? Yeah? Everybody.
Nobody quits this ship. Where do you just go to Vegas?
Like in your mind? Now, are you like I gotta
avoid Reno? No? I mean you'll be there eventually, you know,
if you're lucky put Away, your career is basically Vegas.

(01:19:13):
You want to stay near Caesar's Palace. But as your career,
as you get older, you're gonna move further down the strip,
and you just want to avoid circus circus, circus circus
in the rif you want to. Hopefully you don't get
that far down there, but you know, but even if

(01:19:35):
you get down there, it's at Leasha's still working. It's
more than you can make someplace else. So no part
of Vegas or a Lake city residencies are like eventually, eventually,
you know, everybody's doing these residencies now. I don't my
kids are here. I wouldn't want to do it now,
but maybe someday. I don't know. I'm not against it.

(01:19:57):
I don't know. I don't know. I would hope. I'm
always touring, I would hope. I like touring a little bit,
you know what I mean. I like going to San
Antonio and doing walking the River Walk during the day
and going by the Alamo in person. There's no basement

(01:20:18):
in the Alamo, all right, so I gotta do that.
That's from Peure I was seeing deep got to walk
out of the Alamo and say that large marg Oh yeah,
any okay, okay, anyway, raps will destroy you. That's the

(01:20:47):
cute tip dance break My raps will destroy you. So
how did you get the role of Pooky and audition
audition read for it? Uh Doug and George, Doug mckenry,
George Jack Where the producers Marl Van Peoples saw me

(01:21:09):
A woman named Joan Fields was my agent at the time.
She was the only black agent at William Morris. She
just died not too long ago. And uh, she was
the only black agent at William Morris. And she got
me the audition. I guess she was tight with uh
for Doug and George and they got she got me
in there, and I kind of got the part. I mean,

(01:21:31):
I hear they wanted Martin Lawrence now, um, because you know,
Martin Lawrence was amazing and he still is amazing. Uh.
But uh, you know, they had no money so that
I think they would have had to fly Martin in
and I happen to live in Brooklyn, Like I remember
driving my mother's car to the set the first day.

(01:21:51):
You know, it was a low, low budget movie. No one,
No one picked me up. What was what did you
have to read? What part of it? The scene? The
scene that our auditioned for was the one where me
and the girl fought over the chicken in the hallway
correck like like whatever. I think I had lived that line,

(01:22:16):
but uh so weird. I wonder what happened to that girl.
I was about to ask people, are I have no idea?
I used to date the girl that when he asked,
does she have a milking titties? One night we're watching
and she's like, there you go. I was like, you
got where's the roots? What's what's the roots? Cover album?

(01:22:41):
Where is that? Like? This is hey, my favorite, my
favorite rage against the Machine albums to cover album. That
Ship is hot, the Rick Ruben fucking fucking rage against
the Machine doing pistol grip pump ship exactly. Microphone Fine,

(01:23:08):
it's cool, but you know what kill a man? That
ship is hot. It's cool like Evil Empire for me
is that's that's I have all their ship. But that
as an album to listen to, you want to listen
to like eight records in a row. Yo, what you've
called it? The Dylan thing they did? Uh Maggie's Farm,

(01:23:32):
Chris is secretly by the way, Chris basically yeah, he
student do a cover record. Do the Maggie's do that record? Essentially?
And you said it because Trick is great, he's our executive.
I'm going to prove i'mna great imitator and he's a

(01:23:53):
great interpreter. I'm gonna prove to Chris that we still
have good songs in this Dude, no one say you
don't still have good song You think to prove that
if I could make a fucking album right now somebody
else's jokes. You don't think I would do that ship
to have But I have to prove I got something

(01:24:15):
to prove with myself. I've I've I'll say that I've
dj more than I ever have in the last eight years,
of which this is also the longest gap of no
roots material since rich I was with you the day
that rich our producer died finishing uh top five. We

(01:24:35):
haven't made an album since. So yeah, you should do
it cover rap and do two new records at the
end of the record. But have fun, enjoy yourself. Don't
put yourself on this because because the reality is you
have a job, and your job is a Tonight show
and everything else goes from that, and you cannot make

(01:24:57):
and so whatever you do will be on the side,
and nothing as great great as made on the side
can only be good. So but you can. But doing
a cover record eliminates half the fucking work. That's my
denerro heat movement. Though I feel like I'm a great producer,
I've never been a great songwriter and it's but the

(01:25:19):
thing is, it's all covers what sometimes he covers himself.
But I'm the best, but I'm saying that. I feel, Okay,
let's get somebody else to sing good to you. Not
having the thing tomorrow, I feel I feel like the

(01:25:41):
best producers in in the hip hop were also DJs.
And I didn't realize that after I saw Uh, the
n w A movie and realized the the rest in
the stress that Dr Dre was under as a DJ
at that roller Scape rink, which is basically like you
played the wrong right. Then I realized, oh, the pressure

(01:26:02):
of Dre being a DJ. I had that same pressure
last month at the White House where you know, uh,
when you're in a room with three thousand people and
it's like you're playing some trapshit and Springsteen's frowning at
you because he can't dance trap shit. But then you
play like Michael Jackson and those two are happy, but

(01:26:23):
then like Malee and Sassia over there frowning because they don't.
It's such a high pressured moment, but it's made me.
I feel like it's educated me more. Being a DJ
these last five years has educated me more about songwriting
structure than my first eighteen years as a route, so

(01:26:44):
I don't even count even your beloved things of all apart,
I don't account none of that anymore. I want one
more go around at making a fresh album before I
start just doing the side projects. Thank you, this was
and O d B. Occasionally I get offers to bring
C Before back CE Before as what bring it back

(01:27:07):
as what like? Offers to play festivals and stuff group,
And well, what would I do if I brought C
Before back? I would record an album of covers. That's
what the funk I do. But there's less. There's less,
and I would tour with that album with covers, and

(01:27:28):
I would make millions of dollars. Or I could try
to write fucking ten great CB board songs, but they're
not gonna play as before like cfore as the novelty
B and CB group. But the roots should do I
got what's like. The roots can make more money doing
I got it made than special lead can make do

(01:27:49):
what I got it made. The roots can make more
money doing. I can name ten songs that the roots
absolutely you mean remix too, not just do the I'm
not saying, I'm saying, do your thing to it. I
can think you and I can think of literally twenty

(01:28:10):
songs him why my beautiful, twisted, dark Fantasy. It is
the best album of all times. Let's come back to that. Hey, hey,
came up with Problems. It's a cover what Yeah? Rick

(01:28:31):
Rubin calls me up. He goes, Jay Z is coming in.
What should I play him? Because Rick Rubin believed Rick
Ruben is a cover guy too. Rick Rubin's basically, you're
gonna find yourself through doing covers. You cover the ship
you like. So if I have the Chili Preppers coming
and they like I can't always get what you want,
why don't you play can't always get what you want? First?

(01:28:54):
Why don't you play ten and stay away to happen?
And through playing these other records you will define. You
will find anyway. So he's like, what should I play?
Jay and I had two records just because we you know,
we always listen to music, Me and Rick and I
was like, play the ninety nine Problems and play them
this other weird record, Canna get a Table dance? Uh,

(01:29:17):
ninety nine Problems is a weird record. Ninety nine Problems
is a record that was on an Ice T album
when he got kicked off Warner Brothers, and I'm just
the guy that listens to everybody's whole album. So I
heard so I heard it then, and me and Rick
just loved the record anyway. He plays it for j J.

(01:29:37):
Loves it, totally turns it into his own thing. And
you know, it's one of his biggest records. It's it's
definitely one of his biggest records live. How similar is it?
It's the same hook, So there you go. I have
I know what I'm talking about. What made you choose this?

(01:30:01):
It's the greatest hook ever. It's a great hook. I'm
not saying it. I have a girl problems. Don't feel
bad for your son. I got ninety problems with a
bitch eight was hitting it. I wanted to be a rapper.
I just couldn't wrap. So there you go. That it
was weird. If it weren't for New Jack City, I

(01:30:23):
don't know well New Jack City and the subsequent four
star uh leave review that Ice Tea got Rolling Stone
for the O G Original Gangster album. I probably probably
want to listen to it. That's a really good album,
but it was I love that record, and that's his
best album to me, Like that's no what would you

(01:30:43):
played yourself on it? That power? Freedom of speech? Just
what you say? You like? You like that one better?
I love it. You played yourself. It's just amazing record. Chris,
How long is this fucking thing? It's nine hour? Is
now it's a three hour? Really sorry, but we're having

(01:31:05):
but okay, he's about to change all his means like
apparently I have another ninety minutes left. Now, we'll wrap
it up in ninety minutes. Um, it's not Brandon Steven Glover. Okay,
who you Donald Glover's brother? Yeah? Who writes? He looks

(01:31:30):
like h Vernon reach it? Yeah, I got, I got,
no shame I want to work on like, oh get
that guy? You want to do Atlanta? No, I don't.
I love it so much. I don't want to be
on it. I love Atlanta so much, like like I
like when I talked to I was like, no guest stars,
just fucking you know what I mean? I like it

(01:31:51):
should be like a Dre record. It should only be
But you didn't dog Yeah right, you know not. Empires
are just figured. I just did that because the Empires.
No Atlanta, No, Atlanta is like the greatest ship ever
it's like some ship we dreamed about, Like Obama should
have mentioned it in his speech, like we did it,

(01:32:15):
Yes we can. It's like Atlanta. Is that good? Some
ship we didn't think we'd ever see. Well, that's good
that you you jumped the trainer. But yeah, I'm already
like okay, how how how I can be down? Oh?
You're down? You're down. So his brother writes his brother.
I mean I talked to him and he was like,

(01:32:35):
hire my brother. I'm like, yeah, sure, whatever whatever you
say there, whatever whatever you say, Mr Gambino. I'm like,
I'm rolling with you. You have your pa. I don't
got my I'm just like I'm not gonna be stupid,
Like this ship is hot. You know a lot of

(01:32:56):
times with black stuff anyway, No one people don't think
it's written. People like kinda people overlook the nerd factor.
They think it's naturally done. Yes, they think it's you know,
they think everything is just natural, and these niggers just
show up and they yeah, they don't realize that the
stories were broken and you know, scripts were written and rewritten.

(01:33:19):
It's like, okay, yeah, I always described that if Woody
Allen were allowed to direct Masterpiece about it, about it,
I think it was the greatest. No, but I feel
like that's I mean, Atlanta me is like a surrealist,
high intellectual surrealist comedy that you know, that that has

(01:33:39):
the grittiness of a you know, of a masterpiece. It
literally it does have the grittiness of the intellect of
how people at least the perception of, you know, of
Woody Allen comedy. But does that not make Donald Glover
like a unicorn, like Donald Glover childish gambino in himself,

(01:34:01):
like as a comedian, producer, writer, artists. No, No, he's
doing the thing he's doing. You know, he was pulling
an ice cube, you know. See. Now last week he
told me as well, well Will, I mean he's Will
too in a sense, I mean Will's yeah, I guess
I don't know. I mean, I mean his music is good.

(01:34:24):
I love this new album of us. He's not Will,
He's not willing. That this is I mean Will Will's movie.
Sh It's just you can't nobody can work with it really,
but he's doing it in It's weird because he can
still be him. Like, I feel like it's fascinating that
Atlanta so black as it is but I mean it's
just like Ice Cub wrote Friday. We forget Ice Cub
wrote Friday like he wrote yeah it No, no, he

(01:34:50):
wrote it. I remember I was. I was the Chris
Tucker part, probably for like eight hours one day, and
like they were gonna pay me eighty grand and he
did it for forty or something like that. I forget.
I mean, it's weird because I remember Cube telling me
as a guy that one. By the way, he's a
thousand times better in the I wouldn't have been that good.

(01:35:10):
I wouldn't I wouldn't have been as good as Chris Tucker.
Chris Tucker is perfect for the part. But I remember
Cube kind of telling me in a car like I
had a meeting with him and he made me listen
to a whole Lynch Mob album. So I'm like in
a car with Yeah, I'm in a car with Cube
kind of smoking a joint? Is he He's playing Lynch

(01:35:32):
Mob records and they were okay? But you just like,
when what's the part with Ice Cube? No neck? You know,
is yo yo on this one or not? Yeah? Exactly
all right. So yeah, a long career I've been around,
so you and I have something in common that that

(01:35:53):
we both are love our dads. Yeah, well yeah, black
guys that love their dads. That's we went to the
high schools a couple of us, will Smith, grat Hill,
that's a bunch of us. But you and I went
to thirty Rock University. Thirty Rock. Yes, I definitely went

(01:36:14):
to thirty Rock University. I mean, in hindsight, I'm sure
that you have nothing but positive things to say. But
the thing I always wanted to know about thirty Rock
is that, I mean, and we're now in two thousand seventeen.
I mean, it's so politically correct and you know, if
there are any vices, people hide it. But just all
that folklore that I've read about, like the SNL or

(01:36:36):
history book and about like you know, the the the
binge days of you know, all the there's not even
smoking there now, like, oh no, it was Harold. We
smoked in the refrigerator. I had no mand it, you know,
I had Chris Fawley Man. I had Chris Fawley. I'm

(01:37:01):
not gonna blow up too many. Put it this way.
In my cast dead right, Phil Hartman's wife shot him
in the head. That you know what I mean? Like,
so I mean, this ship was rock and roll. Motherfucker.
This ship was like so weird. When I got hired

(01:37:22):
at that s no, I lived in Brooklyn because I
wasn't moving to Manhattan because I couldn't get a cab
in man Head right, and I couldn't park a car,
so it was like what the fuck? Just cost too
much Parker car. I was never gonna get a cab
fun this ship right Stan in Brooklyn, and I remember
everybody was so uh Lauren, and everybody was concerned about
me living in Brooklyn. I was the one that ever

(01:37:43):
concerned about. Mean, while Chris is the guy who died
basically living o d you know what I mean, everybody
everybody was worried about the new black guy living who
wasn't living in the I was living Fort Green. But
oh do you mean like showing up one time or
just like just concerned for your safety. It was just
or how you were blend in with them, not even

(01:38:04):
blend in with him, just like who recommends did you
audition or audition? A guy named James Dixon who's Jon
Stewart's agents, and a couple other people who was the
Higgins at the time, who's the Higgins that the Higgins
at the time was Jim Downey. And who's Higgins? Who's
the head writer? Higgins is our Sideki no no no, no,

(01:38:27):
no no. And and Senator Al Franken. Oh, keep forgetting
I forgot so Al Franken was a senator, he was
I think they were both the head writers. Uh. Conan
O'Brien was a writer on the show. Uh. Bob oten
Kirk was a writer on the show. Yeah. Did you

(01:38:49):
ever have any issues with the things that you wrote
on that show? I always wondered, like, is it ever
too black for S and L or too black? Nothing
was ever too black. It was just it was a situation, aation.
First of all, I had an amazing time at SNL
is the best thing. It's absolutely the best thing that
ever happened to me. Yeah, because it kind of made
me legit, you know what I mean, Like it was

(01:39:10):
like graduating Harvard, which you did for the up and
coming comedians from Howard and stuff made it even Yeah,
I mean like I was. I was on SNL man,
It is only you know, come on, like sn L
forgetting even black, Like SNL is the X Men School

(01:39:30):
of comedy. Okay, did Eddie give you any kind of
preparation on what to expect. Eddie. The only thing Eddie
told me. He kept telling me, it's like, just just
make sure you write stuff for update because it's the
easiest spot to get on. UM. But what was your question?
I was just asking. It wasn't ever too edgy or
black to where they were like it was to edgy

(01:39:51):
or black. It was like, it's like this situation just
white people in general. It's like the things they understand
about black people tends to be has to have a
racial element to it. So a lot of stuff I
did it was more obvious like net X chilling, like
that stuff is like obvious black stuff, you know what
I mean. It wasn't really all the weird. I wasn't

(01:40:15):
allowed to get into my weird side the other you know,
like you so it had to be it had to
be black. Yeah, so it had to be black. I mean,
so you know, it's not that it's just white people
in general. Is that the arsenio factor kicking in? Was
that the living color factor kicking in? I got hired
because of the living color I got hired just like

(01:40:36):
every like whatever that the girl I keep forgetting her
name I was from. Yeah, I got hired pretty much
under the same circumstances. SNL hadn't had a black cast
member in nine years, and Living Color was hopping, and
they went out looking for a black cast member, and

(01:40:56):
you know I got the job. Um but um, I
forgot what else you're ready to say? No, just white
people in general, when they're looking for black stuff, they
tend to like something either ridiculously black. It basically goes
to the Tracy Borgan or Larry Wilmore, you know what
I mean, Like in the middle, in the middle, nothing

(01:41:19):
in the middle. Nothing I'm taking because you explain, But
do you explain in your whole and your whole theory
of you did a joke about Obama could only hope
to be mediocre? Is again, it's like, you know, it's
either the perception that we're animals or we are super huge.
Not calling any person an animal. Let's just let's get up.

(01:41:41):
Well no, no, no, but I've meant like just whatever
the one side of the spectrum where it's the extreme
its triple raw or extreme caricature versus extreme intellect. But
the thing with being ground zero middle is that that's
just regular human yes, which is harder to Yeah, I

(01:42:02):
mean that's what's Hey, that's why it let us genius,
because it walks that thing. It's like, I was very rounded.
I was recently told by a bunch of white women
take a like a comedy class. They sound I made
one joke. I get really nervous about making black jokes
in front of white people, and so when I did
finally write one, they were like, oh my god, we
love it. Tell us more about ourselves, tell us about
white women. And I was like, really, but that's to

(01:42:25):
see that. That bothers me too, because I feel like
that's almost like fetishizing or you know, the whole guilt
the guilt factor kicking in. And I was wondering if
it was a set up. I didn't know, but I
was like, okay, I got a lot though, that's that's
a set up. I'm sorry, that's a set up, sup.

(01:42:45):
So okay, see you you're you're fine with your experience there,
and the best experience is literally the best thing that
I ever happened to me. I met the best people,
uh not just I mean, hey, I got exposed about
around a bunch of many So you know, I'm a
guy from bed sty who came through this white system.

(01:43:08):
So I still I'm still the guy who has to
go and with my uncle to go get the guns
before the bad cousins come. And at the same time,
I know, Conan O'Brien, how can you funk with me?
You can't funk with me, you know. I mean that's
all like, that's a lot of route, that's a lot
of education, alright. So that leads me to the period

(01:43:32):
between you something for um, I'm sorry I cut you off.
I wrote I think SNL. We edited a Spin magazine
and I wrote an article about the end of the
black super comic is coming because TV was getting more segregated,

(01:43:55):
and the black super comic is me. Okay, let's take
me of it, because that sounds I saw, I saw
like a cornerback, right. But you know, there's a reason
Eddie Murphy, Richard pryor all the greatest black comedians, the
greatest comedians in America tend to be black. It's because
you had to work these two systems in a world

(01:44:17):
that everybody else has to work one. So you're saying
Sam Cook record in Harlem, which is more blacker than
the Sam Cook record at the Coppa records come out. Yeah,
this is the same thing that produced Michael Jackson. And
like the the fact that you had to work two
audiences in a world everybody else worked one. It's like,

(01:44:40):
how do how can they funk with you? It's impossible.
Can't funk with a guy that could work the Apollo
and Carnie Haul. You can't funk with that anyway. But
the thing is you're talking about two audiences though. But
I feel like now you specifically, there's there's Brooklyn alternative.

(01:45:05):
There's the Brooklyn alternative stuff that I know that you
love a challenge anywhere. And I always ask you, like,
would you ever go to night Training? Two weeks ago
you did night Train? Did night Train? Did? Like? Night Train?
How do you do? I did? Okay? But I did
okay because I I haven't been on stage in a while.

(01:45:26):
The night train and what is night Train? Just well? Okay?
So night Train is like again, there's like I feel
like there's three comedy universes in we're really for because
I keep taking the black factor out. But for me,
my observation in New York is that Brooklyn is the
comic alternative spot. So night Train is a place that's

(01:45:48):
where Wyatt would go like that, that's why it spot.
It's alternative, alternative, hipster comedy spot. Uh. And then you know,
I feel like in midtown Manhattan between uh, where's the
spot on Street that people sometimes go, like Amy goes

(01:46:10):
there sometimes, but there's there's like a midtown if you're
midtown to sort of like seventy Street, you might be
going to you know, you might be doing Vegas, you
might you're kind of mainstream, but stand well, the stand,
the stand, but then the comedy seller. I feels like

(01:46:32):
the Harvard. I feel like that's the hardest place to penetrate,
not because of the crowd downstairs, but I feel like
if you can survive that table on the back where
He'll sit, where Crys will sit sometimes Dave me Amy
in Disease, Yeah, it's it's like Shumer Disease, Chappelle, Louis

(01:46:54):
c K. But it's like it's the it's the it's
the it's the constant traded geniuses of comedy that's there.
That's their witched And I'm always curious, asked you, Chris
will be like, I don't give. I will go to
alternative Brooklyn and see if I could work there Chris

(01:47:15):
Wall also, you know, try car I mean not saying
that you would ever do Carolines, but I don't know
is Carolines like to you what I mean, I'll walk
I'll walk on. Eric Andre went on. I was doing
some shows the Caroline. Eric Andre did like a weekend
or a week at car I would expect eric Andre
to do the Brooklyn spots right anyway, I opened up

(01:47:36):
for him. I like, I would you know I went
on before one night? Yeah, well not unannounces. Uh. Carolins
was like the last comedy club I ever played for real,
like when the Ship was just you know that that
gig where you, oh ship people are getting hurt. Okay,
time to go to theaters. But uh wow, okay, I

(01:47:57):
just remember right around Bring the Pain. Maybe remember Louis
who wasn't even my friend at the time, but Louie
and David Cross, like Janine, all the cool kids showed up.
It's like, oh okay, so something else happening. What is
that period between you leaving SNL see before Yeah, it

(01:48:19):
was like maybe half a season of Living Color between
between met and I'm not even saying big gass jokes,
but more like I just remember a period when you
started doing the one Hunter, collect commercials and politically correct. Yeah,
I felt like Chris Rock, Like I stayed working. You
seem like a different person. Like you. You you cut

(01:48:40):
your hair, you had a your preacher's voice was now
starting to develop, Like it was less about like your
voice on Born Suspect and your old Chris Rock throwing
down the mic and all that stuff, Like you were
now a nuanced I got older. I mean the thing
with comedians, Comedians are good until they're in their thirties.

(01:49:01):
This is not every everything you love about Richard Pryor
he was thirty eight, forty whatever. Bill. There's no Little
Wane of comedy. There's no fucking Drake of comedy. Eddie
Murphy is the only He's the only guy. Literally, if
you go to your Netflix right now and just start

(01:49:22):
clicking through people, you'll you'll find one two year old
Eddie Murphy. Everybody else's grown. Because you gotta you gotta
pay taxes to fucking connect to an audience. You gotta
be you gotta have been loved and unloved and cheated
on a motherfucking and went broke, and you know what

(01:49:45):
I mean, Like you gotta you gotta like you gotta,
you know, feel the pain of just life and disappointments
like I'm not who I thought I was and my
mother ain't who I thought she was. Besides age, I mean,
besides age, besides age? What and you get older? You

(01:50:07):
what made you work? Focused? What made you focus into
like you know, I mean at that point of my career, honestly,
I thought I was done as trying to as far
as getting famous, So you thought, like off the Vegas
and renown. I thought like, okay, what's his name, George,

(01:50:28):
George Wallace, Yeah, like he always works. That was George
my idol to this day because he's like that was
my goal. I was like, okay, this whole trying to
be what does he make a year? I bet you
makes two billion dollars a year just playing Vegas, playing
Vegas like city cruise, ship this, like you know, choice gigs. Yeah,

(01:50:51):
she's kind of like Jimmy Buffett. I'm gonna get comedy.
I could be way off, I don't know, but I'm
gonna get the quality. Like he's every comedian's favorite comedian.
He's like like a guy so oh he's great. He's
great as the interviewer. I was asking that he's great.
I've what he does. He does a thing. It's hard

(01:51:13):
to realize what he's doing. It looks easy, that's what
I want to know, Like, you know what I mean,
it looks like he's just your uncle and he's just
coming up with this ship. But George Wallace will come
in the club and he'll have his pad and that
motherfucker will try jokes and he writes jokes and sometimes
he'll buy some jokes and he's like, very serious about
this by jokes. Yeah, people buy jokes sometimes. Really, have

(01:51:36):
you ever had to sling jokes? Like, yo, man, I'm
next week, I need something about o j I mean,
you know, I watched people's acts and sometimes I give
him a line or two or whatever. The fun somebody
will give me a line. It's like, oh that thing
you're working on, you know, if you try it this way,
I mean, you know. And some guys just have jokes
for sale. Some guys are just writers and they sell jokes.

(01:51:59):
But you know, what's the name does that right? The
guy who does all the roast, doesn't he write Jeff
je Frost? Yeah, I mean I don't. I'm not one
of these like you gotta come up with every line.
You just gotta you know, So, do you have a
crew or a cabinet of like I like, right now

(01:52:20):
I have, I've written I don't know our twenty minutes
worth of stuff right right? And you know, my tour
starts February. Wait time he comes here, he's coming to
tour tour. He's coming to that's next week. Hang one second, alright?

(01:52:40):
Started is We're in the third hour of this week's
episode of Quest of Supreme with our special guest Chris Rock,
who just let me know that he's about to start
his tour momentarily. Uh, but yet usually you let me
know when you're like, well no, no, no, no, no,
I don't know the huge of the smith. But you

(01:53:00):
usually usually towards you know, you do the small spots first,
and you start sucking around a little bit. I mean,
this is weird. I've never not heard you, I've never
seen you wait this long. I've never waited this long.
I mean, why are you waiting this long? Like my
last three tours, I was kind of the same guy,
so the same girl, had the same kids like I

(01:53:24):
was my last to three years. Is like, I don't
know who the funk I am divorced. I got like
I got custody, I got you know, I got I
got split custody of my kids. Like so so yeah,
I got teenage daughters and like I'm really trying to

(01:53:46):
figure out who I am. A lot of it's that. Um,
I'm not scared. I'm gonna work out. I think I'm
gonna go to Nashville for a few days, like a week.
Actually have some of my guys have Ali there a
lance whatever? Uh, same guys. Are you bringing in new blood?

(01:54:06):
So I'm gonna bring up some new blood? Uh? I
think Jack White is going to be involved on some level.
So a third man record. Uh yo. I really regret
this whole uh missing that that that that meeting, that
Stoneheage meeting you guys had at Tip's house because I
feel like so much business got negotiated night. That was

(01:54:28):
a good night. It was like the Tip had a
what do you call it at their funeral repost pass
at after five thing. Yeah, but yeah, I mean We're
at Tip's house a lot. Just I mean when he
was working on the record, now there's no record. I
don't know what he's doing now, talked him a little
bit yesterday, but uh, I feel like one has to

(01:54:51):
live in Jersey. I gave my my A and R notes.
How much of your set is worked out and how
much it's gonna be kind of I mean it, honestly,
it's the least amount I've ever had worked out. Ever,

(01:55:13):
You're not worried about it, I'm not. It's weird watching
Dave relaxes me a little bit. Uh Am I worried
about it. I'm worried about it. I mean, it's put
his way. Worry is respect. You know. Motherfucker's that don't
worry about ship, that aren't nervous, don't respect the art.

(01:55:35):
I've heard that before. So I'm definitely worried, and I'm
definitely but I'm carving out the time. I'm carving out
the time. I'm just, uh, it's just a different me.
I mean, I'm a father the first, you know, so
you know I've been with my kids. You know, I
got my I have my kids this weekend, you know
what I mean. So I'm not you know, you're still

(01:55:56):
like you gotta go pick your kids up after this.
I drop my daughter off. It's today. I mean, like,
do you kids know you're Chris Rock or they just
know like you did the voice over for my oldest
is realizing because she wants to come with me every
time I get on stage now. But but she just
thinks like you get her into cool concerts. Oh yeah,
that's part of it. Yeah, it's like hey, but they

(01:56:19):
have like, like, what's what's bigger? Watch that the kid
their friends house, I mean what they got their own phones,
they got YouTube? Would you not punch up your father?
We had eight videos on YouTube? Of course they've wanted.
But what's the ratio to dad? And oh ship, we're
being raised by an A list celebrity. It's they know

(01:56:43):
not yet, yeah, because we'll know you're no, I'm already
Bruno Manis will be involved. I've already been informed that
I gotta figure out Bruno mars Is. Whereabouts of my daughters?
Howld uh fift be fifteen and thirteen? So how you

(01:57:04):
doing keeping him off the pole? Yeah, they're off, They're saying,
I think they're safely off to pol You can tell
these things early, like like athletics. You know, you know
if your kids going in the major leagues by the
time he's twelve. You know, if your daughters on the
pole by the time it's about fourteen. Okay, we're out
of the water here. You're good, You're good. But where

(01:57:26):
were we? Where were we? Uh? Yeah, I'm just uh
get ready to get on. I'm just trying to figure
out where I'm gonna go to work out. So I
may go to Nashville. There's a part of me I
wants to go to Baltimore. So I always make sure
before I go on tour, I spend like a week
in someplace really white, getting on stage in a place
someplace really black. Are there black comedy clubs? Oh? Yes,

(01:57:52):
there are where Atlanta, Detroit, um Mobile, Alabama. Uh, you know,
there's some spots. There's definitely some spots. Just you know,
spot Earthquake plays twice a year. You know, good wet
earthquake this week, and of all Crawford's the next week.

(01:58:12):
And you know what I mean, Joe Tories come into town.
You know in Top five, the whole the jazz d character,
you know with was that actually a part of your career?
Did you play those little clubs like that? Yeah, that
really happened. The whole story actually happened. That happened, mother,
motherfucking man. In Houston, Another Town jazz d damn it,

(01:58:38):
but e Cedric knocked that ship out the park. Why
do you think that movie? Because that was I mean,
that's my favorite of your movies and the other ones
I liked. But you know, when you were talking about
kind of finding I guess maybe finding your way in movies,
like you would kill it on stage, But a lot
of times in the early stuff, the humor that you
had on stage, it didn't translate to the movies. What

(01:59:01):
was it about Top five that made that kind of
like where it all kind of galvanized. It's a it's weird.
Top Five is a lot like Bring the Pain. It
was like a guy just trying to be good. Like
everything before Bring the Pain was a guy trying to
be famous, and like the other movies I made, it
was like it was it was almost like I was

(01:59:22):
making my own version of Adam Sailor movies in a
weird way because he's my friend and his movies are big.
So I was like following another blueprint, and I was
just like I was thinking about a one sheet. So
it started with I think I love my wife probably,
but like I had to stay down to earth and
whatever else was just kind of me. Look, okay, this

(01:59:44):
is a good poster and these are good jokes for
a trailer, and I wasn't really thinking about a movie
per se, and you know, uh yeah, I was just
on some bullshit trying to get a hit. Still like
still liked to stand. I said, it's got some good ship.
But but with Top five and I think I Love

(02:00:05):
my wife, was just like, Okay, I'm just making I'm
making what I want to make. I don't really care
if it's a I would like it to be a
big hit, but I really I'm really more about and
I've really got into to being a filmmaker too. Well
I was I didn't even care about filmmaking in those
other movies. I was just Top five was just the

(02:00:27):
thing I wanted to say at that moment. I wasn't.
I never thought it would be a hit. Put it
that way, What did your wife think of I think
I love my wife? Well we're divorced now, So I
made it in a weird movie because at the end
he does go to his wife. So I mean, hey, man,

(02:00:47):
was like for life, like that changed my life. I mean,
Quentin Tarantino said something a long time ago. He said
when you make a piece of art, if there aren't
people in your life that are mad at you afterwards,
you didn't make good ship it. You didn't go deep enough.
She wasn't even mad. She wasn't even mad, because the
sentiment was, I mean, it makes you look I mean again,

(02:01:11):
I'm divorced me. I didn't want to make your I
didn't want to make your your your divorced part of
the your career discussion. But since we're here in hindsight,
because I mean, after nineties six you became Did you
get married before after I got married in nine? I
think I think were you guys got married during Bring

(02:01:34):
the Pain? Like we got married after Bring the Pain?
I think now like I could afford a wedding after
that in hindsight, and I guess we could pretty much
say that ninety six was the turning point of you
really black culture, reasonable doubt Bring the Pain. Jay z

(02:01:55):
One his opus affected the culture more than my opus.
Yes you think so, and we're not. We're not kissing
your ass because there's a venue as a rapper. It
didn't not. Here's the thing, now, that's that's the forgetting

(02:02:17):
the references and rap songs all the time Grand Opening
Grand Club the other day. But the thing is, Reasonable
Doubt is also one of those albums that you were
told it was a classic exactly. I don't remember being mad. No,
nobody was bumping reasons doubt when we had fucking ghost Face,
red Man and goddamn uh A t Aliens. I didn't.

(02:02:40):
I didn't hear Reasonable Doubt until after I knew moved
to New York. That that was. It was almost ten
years after. Yeah, I was like, like it came out
and I remember I was like, Okay, this is good,
but I'm saying the the impact of Bring the Pain
on HBO it was I think madic moments. And we

(02:03:02):
rewound it recorded, watched it over study that ship. Not
my teachers in school. We're talking about Bringing the Pain
like in home room, like before the bell ring, like
they would be joking. I think you don't think there
might not be Yeah, I don't think there's nine hundred

(02:03:23):
million dollars in your bank account. And you know, Beyonce,
but you won that. It was a weird. It was
a great year, some great black art cave ab out
and uh and that was when you got married around
it was. It was. It was a want to say hayes,
but it was it was a world when a lot
of ship was going on. But what I'm asking is

(02:03:45):
at the point where you're not that you planned on,
you know, suddenly having this meteoric rise in in this
od ship moment happened in your life. But this is
the moment where you becoming the industry. But this is
also the same time that you're deciding to become a
husband and future father. And I always believe that you

(02:04:07):
couldn't serve two guys. You're either gonna be a super
industry or you're gonna be a family. That's what most
guys do. I mean, I think most men marry when
we're at the top of our game, you know what
I'm saying, Like we marry at that time in our career,
but we feel like like I think the women is
the other way around. It's like they get love and
then think, Okay, now I have love, so now I
can go and do whatever. But for us, it's like

(02:04:27):
I gotta get my peace of the world before I
can have love, because love calls like I gotta have
I gotta baby to ford this stuff. Let know, you
just said, like I gotta afford I could afford the weddings.
So it's like for us, we gotta get ours first.
So I'm just saying, how hard is it to be?
You know? Are you if Selt is calling your phone
at PM, she's like you better not pick. I mean

(02:04:53):
she was good. I mean, I dude, my output from
nineties six to probably you know whatever two thousand three
until my first daughter is ridiculous. I wrote movies, I
wrote books, or she understood that she was very good.
I can't sit there and you know, I wrote movies,

(02:05:14):
I wrote books, I made albums, I toured, I did
a lot of ship. So you know, hey, I guess
you know, probably could have been better if I spent
more time at whatever. But I had to do what
I had to do. I had to get my prints on.
So did a TV show I didn't, you know, I

(02:05:35):
produced Everybody Hates Chris. I did a lot of ship, man,
I know. But that's what I'm saying, Like you can
either industry or have the resume of an eight eight
year old person. But he did not because he did

(02:05:57):
a long time. And you know what, my last because
like Hamilton's, will not last as long as my marriage. Okay, yeah,
you know, I'm trying to make, you know, put things
in a positive spin, kids, because I made it ninety
to just close to twenty years close to yeah, so yeah,

(02:06:18):
that's you know. I mean, hey it is yeah, okay,
and I made it and you put us together. Like
I'm just saying. I mean, I got great kids, all good,
everybody's everybody's fine now, so as long as you're happy.

(02:06:40):
So I guess at the end, everyone to do it?
What are you asking this question based on yourself about
it can be done, but only I can do it.
My reps will destroy and maybe Edie because he had
like ten kids too, I mean with the same woman.
Well to you know, did you see that new family

(02:07:05):
photo Jesus Christ. I didn't realize he had. Just to
see them all together. It's like, I mean, here's the
Wootank clan and the Jackson's like, yeah, he raised his
own industry. That's crazy. Um So all right, I guess

(02:07:26):
at this last moments I have with you, I just
want to shoot the ship. What is your top five?
Top five rappers changes all the time? Jay Z, Kanye Uh,
have you you thought about this because he's even when
people it's like we're not in the park anymore. He

(02:07:47):
made a movie about this. Let me, let me, let
me say something to everybody's top five, We're not in
the park. This isn't fucking Mr Magic's not add anymore.
You're not listen and see this shift on cassette. Your
top five is top five record makers. You're talking songs here, right, Okay,

(02:08:10):
that's what we're talking about. We're not. I mean, you
want to say top five words, I can read off
a piece of papers separate. But when I when I say, yo,
rappers that make records and and we're judging them like
running back, So you're judging four years. Okay, you're judging

(02:08:32):
four years if you don't have four albums, I don't
really I can't put you in my top five, you know.
And by the way, just changes all the time. But
now I did the record after I did the movie.
It's like, man, people ask me this all the time.
Who's main albums that I like? If? It's almost like
who would you like to see make a record with
Dr Dre right? Now you know what I mean, like

(02:08:59):
like for to produce, like who would you rather? I
gotta go? I like jay Z knows how to make
a motherfucking song. Kanye West is a bad, motherfucker interesting
as fuck, only rapper in the history of the game
with the mystique. Rappers are like comedians. They are who

(02:09:20):
they are. It's like there's nothing mysterious about him. Kanye
is the only one. Okay, you don't think about any
other rapper like that. You just don't, don't. You don't
give a funk about you know, their relationships and all
this ship it was amber Rose is just you don't
think about anybody like that except one guy. Speaking of which,

(02:09:41):
did you freestyle that whole ship on the name blame Game?
I freestyled it? But how does that work? He just
says he made me do. I was in a booth,
I don't know, a couple hours, three hours. Maybe he
was producing me for real of him. First, I was
hanging around a lot. Again, I'm good at hanging around,

(02:10:03):
so I was your because I would never be allowed
to hang around, So I got to hang around. Got
to hang around Electric Ladyland a couple of times while
he was doing the record. So I think I was
around for Monster and a couple other songs, right, And
I don't know, he just you know, text me one day,
come in. We did it at that studio right next

(02:10:26):
to be Smith's, the one studio. Anyway, he had me
in the booth I'm gonna say about three hours and
he kept shouting instructions to me, how about this, how
about that? And then he took all the ship and
edited it and then I get a text. We got

(02:10:46):
a classic and that was and he played it for me,
and I was like, oh my god, because I didn't
hear when I did it. It wasn't to music. It
was I believe it was just to or I didn't
hear any of the words. So maybe there was a
little music, but there were no all that John legend
and all that stuff wasn't on it together. And he

(02:11:09):
put it together. So and then he played and I
was like, oh my god, this is amazing. And I
don't know if I remember sitting with him and my
own you know, me and my bullshit A and R.
And I told him the album has to end on
Who's survive in America? Who's the vive in America? Is like,
that's the end of the fucking record. Really. He put

(02:11:34):
some bonus after that, but he ended it right there.
I don't know, I'm not gonna say I get all
the credit for that, but I definitely told him that
it's like nigga, this is it? Who will Who will
survive in America? Is the last thing I need to hear.
This is the mic drop. Uh You ever hear the
album the Ghetto Boys Resurrection album with the single game

(02:11:58):
to put Me Down? One might have been Ghetto Boys
and Girls, one of the great rap albums ever made.
In the last line of Resurrection is Willie Dee going,
I'm a type of nigga, throw a party, win the flag, burn,
I'm at the point in overturn. That's the end of
the fucking record. Man, Yo, you love filler hip hop

(02:12:23):
like you go beyond. Just because this ship ain't a
hit doesn't mean it wasn't great. So sometimes there's some
ship in it. So I remember I told Kande that,
and and I got from a good source that he
listened to it after I left, listen to it in
front of me him and Jay. Have you ever seen

(02:12:55):
amber Rose after this, kid? I have seen that. I
met her at some store on out of the avenue
and I took a picture. She's you know, you guys
just never talked about that. I love her. Oh my god,
you ever see like this? You ever see like those
movies where like a guy like he's got magical powers,
but whenever he uses them, like if I use it

(02:13:15):
right now, it's gonna kill me and it saves the world.
Like that's what it would take for me to give
Amber Rose a proper fucking like. It would like I
would be from stranger things. You know, everything would happen,
I would get I would make a come, but yeah,
I would be fucked up for a long time. I

(02:13:42):
make a come, but I'd be fucked up for a while.
I'll be no good for anybody's ad motherfucker girl who tough? Five? Okay?
Jay z Nye. The popular guys, uh Snoop Dogg More

(02:14:04):
popular guys. You show me, You showed me a motherfucker
that got ten records. You you show me you have
a show right now, you do your rock the bells
or whatever the fuck, And you show me who's gonna
follow Snoop Doggie dog? Who who Snoop is like? No
Snoop is like law and order, like everyone knows that

(02:14:29):
everybody And the motherfucker's ridiculous live when he comes out
when he got the real bass player playing murder was
the case. And this nigger got his braids out and
his hands blowing in the motherfucking win and their motherfucker's
as I looked to the sky and you're like, oh ship,
and you're like, this motherfucker is really six feet tall.

(02:14:51):
He's really a fucking rock star. You can't funk with
that nigger. You're that you can't fucking anything or anything.
He's one of the greatest of all time. Um two
and three, two and three, four and five, I mean,

(02:15:12):
I got you know I can be he named three
five just on that ship, just like yo, you can't
funk with these motherfucker's. Man, You know, this tribe ship
is for real, man, this ship, you know, que Tip
is on some other ship. Now, don't get me wrong,

(02:15:32):
Fife God rested, you know whatever. It's some other ship too.
They were they were not. He wasn't like a one
man band, que Tip. But goddamn it, those records again.
You can go ten in a row and be like,
everybody's happy, everybody's happy, could the hood's happy, Your mom's

(02:15:54):
is happy. You know what I mean? You know, I
mean the Trap crew is happy. In the Steve Harvey
crew is happy at that is not too many mcs
that could do that, right, And you know, and you know, Okay,
she's only got one album, so I'm not going to

(02:16:14):
say her, but who was her? No, No, Lauren Hills.
Lauren Hills a better rapper then. I mean, she's a
better rapper than Kanye or a lot of people. But
you know, you gotta you know, you gotta have a
body of work. You gotta have a body of work.
You know. All this other ship, Um, that ghost Face

(02:16:37):
is a motherfucker. He's my favorite routanger. I mean, you know,
I was like O. D B. And I was like
meth and whatever like everybody else. But nigga, you gotta work.
You gotta work, hey man, Tony Starks puts out a
record every you fucking six you know whatever six days

(02:17:00):
does a Tony Starts record, And that ship's fucking great.
Speaking of Top five, because it just hit me now
and the irony couple mentioned ice Cube is the is
the irony lost on you? Speaking of Top five? That

(02:17:21):
uh the Media movie and Birth of a Nation were
released in the same October week as what You predicted
in the movie and have the same outcome. Um has
that irony been lost. Here's the thing. When you talk
about like schizophrenic people talk about ship like that, you know,

(02:17:42):
I mean like happy is the irony lost on you?
That it's not lost on me. You predicted that ship,
it's not lost on me. It's not lost on me.
That I essentially came up with the idea for Tyler
Perry's biggest movie in a decade. Uh, Like down to
the cover art Jesus really yeah, say what the sink

(02:18:07):
a cover? And like the Birth of the Nation. It's
like that saying with him holding the well that Yeah,
that's even crazier. Yeah, that's all the same stuff. I
don't know, man, it's weird. My agents were like, we
gotta sue Tyler. I was like, I'm not suing Tyler. Pair.
I don't want to that. I don't want does he
even know? I mean he says, he said, Okay, what

(02:18:31):
else you got? He called me up, I'm almost out
of wait before you go tell me a prince story.
I don't have a great prince story, honestly. I mean,
he's one of those guys that he liked me. I

(02:18:51):
loved him. I always pushed back, honestly because I always
figured it can only get bad. I always figured, like
I'm I don't want to funk up my access. I
just like those moments hanging around him. The longer you
hung around on, the more he became like a normal person.
So I used to love it when you know, when
you'd have like a spaghetti stain, I didn't know it,

(02:19:18):
purple spaghett It's like he's good. Look at that sucking
stain on his sucking lime green space suit. I remember
so funny. I remember him calling me up one night
and uh, so as I've read all the ship that's
coming out right now and right before was coming two thousands,

(02:19:39):
and him Prince telling me to did I need to
change all my money in the goal because thanks and all,
this ship wasn't gonna be working. You read he had
so yeah, and like five million in cash. And I

(02:19:59):
remember one he wanted me to go on tour with him,
and I turned it down because I turned him down
because he was the promoter and I just didn't want
Prince coming up to me one night saying, look yeah,
like uh with a Chris Rock print show. I don't know.

(02:20:21):
I just didn't. I don't want to put this l
in that position, and we trust him as a promoter
this this would have been yeah, yeah, so yeah, you wouldn't.
It was like emancipatient, He's doing everything himself. I was like, yeah,
he was playing for his ass at that point. That
sit down in You and Prince, I think it was
v H one still one of the best Prince interviews.

(02:20:43):
Like ever, Yeah, when you got him to say about
the whole bad thing. I think that was the first
time he never publicly commented on Yeah yo, but is
mine imagine me saying, ah, yeah, man, man whatever, I
don't do a good Prince but uh, alright, well, Michael
jack I'm gonna have Have you ever met Michael Jackson? Um,

(02:21:06):
I was around him. I didn't properly meet him meet him. No, No,
I do have a one story of meeting him. Here's
like at first, I was around him for the What's
Up with You? Video? Remember this is the moment for

(02:21:30):
we've been waiting for. So I was around. I was
around for the What's Up with You? Video? And so
I didn't get a chance to talk talk to him
like that. That was a v I P section that
I knew not to even walk near. But I got
to watch so Eddie brought the crew with him something.

(02:21:53):
But I got a call from Michael Jackson when I
first time I hosted the Oscars. You know, Michael Jackson
always film ship all the time time in movies and
had crew people. Anyway, one of the crew guys gave
me a fucking phone and it was Michael Jackson wishing
me a good show. That would have messed up my
night that he called that night, that day or whatever,

(02:22:13):
like dooring, like dress or whatever. Wait, I just realized
there's a whole suit of questions. I still didn't ask,
like is that pressure, Like do you want to I
was hosting to ask us I want to, I want times,
I want this to be better than everyone else's. But hey, Chris,
you're the hindsight revisionist. I always tell people it doesn't

(02:22:34):
you can't control if it's a hint, but you can
always be good. It's good. No. But the thing is
is that you could say now after the fact, that
you know, I was cool in Cucumber. But if you're
getting called from Michael Jackson, good luck, which essentially the
nice guy version of don't sunk up? Now, how do
you feeling? By too fast? Honestly, I mean, I think

(02:22:55):
that the BT Awards was more impressure. The fact that
you wanted to do that shocked the ship out of me.
I did want to do it because it is risky,
but you know what happens. It's easier. Oscar b T
Wards Oscars are easier than be T Awards. Just put
it away and no disresprised. People liked what I did

(02:23:15):
at the Oscars. But if thirty other people had hosted
the show, they could have done a good job, you
know what I mean? But I love Billy Crystal. Billy
Crystal would have came out there last year. He would
have annihilated the Oscars. He would have been great and
everybody been happy. Because you can't do the b teal
Wards if he didn't be amazing, you know what I mean,

(02:23:38):
like like you, I mean like you Grant or without
you Grant, but you know you, Jackman could have done it.
If you can't do the fucking b teal Wards. More
nerve reckon this lastscar like they do amigo joke? Was
it more nerve reckon this time? Because I mean it
wasn't your first, but it was like everybody was on

(02:24:00):
you this Oscar so white year. It was you know what,
this was like one of those happy accidents. Man, I
agreed to host a show. None of this stuff. It
even broke out yet, I was just like initially wasn't no,
that was two years ago. I was, you know, I
I don't know. I just had nothing going on. I was.

(02:24:21):
I spent a year, you know, trying not to try
not to talk about my personal life. But I was
in divorce court so much like I was just so
and a fog, so nothing like I didn't have a
script or anything. It was like, Okay, let me host this.
Let me host this, because it's hard to you know,
custody and all this ship going on. So it's hard

(02:24:43):
to do a movie. It's hard to do a TV show.
It's hard to do anything. Oscars like honestly like a
three week commitment. It's more if you want to put
in more. But I knew I could do it, so
I said yeah, because I was so busy, get whatever.
Uh that if I didn't do something, I was gonna risk.

(02:25:06):
It's very easy to be to not if you're not
like a movie star or have a TV show. It's
really easy to not be seen for a couple of years,
you know, what I mean, like, you gotta be very
strategic about this ship if you're not on a show.
So I figured, if I do the Oscars, it's like, okay,

(02:25:28):
that's that's me for night, that's me for two thousand sixteen.
This is a different Oscars. This is so that was
the decision to do it, and nothing to do with
anything else. So just like okay, and then the nominations
come out and there's no blacks, and now it's like,
you know, it's the most important thing. I got essence

(02:25:51):
cover I never got before, you know what I mean,
twenty years and show, you know what I mean. Like
I was like, yes, suddenly I was another cat. So um, yeah,
it was a lot of pressure. It was a lot
of pressure, but it was fun. It was fun, man,
it was fun. I had It was the best time
I've ever had hosted the show. Are there any other challenges? Like,

(02:26:15):
I know the last tour you went to other countries,
which besides Billy Crystal. I know now everybody does it,
but yeah, that was the big I left my manager
over that. Over you didn't want to go I wanted
to play other I was just like, okay, you know
everybody has this saying black acts don't work here, there

(02:26:37):
or whatever, and I was like, I can't keep playing Philly.
This is like I want to be the best in
the world. That means playing the world. You know, I
can figure it out, so I thought. And with the
arslot of the internet, like everything, no one had done it,
no one had really done it. It was like an

(02:26:57):
occasional show here or there, but no one had really toured,
no comedian had really toured, toured outside of the country.
And it worked out, you know, thank god for YouTube,
I guess. I mean, I went my initial first time
in London. I thought I'd play like six hundred seats,
played ninety, you know, you know, over weeks and weeks

(02:27:22):
of doing shows, and you know, you know, if fu
can do Obama, fucking you know, Victory Lap pretty much
broke the record in most countries. A lot of it
was a lot and a lot of it was word
of mouth. A lot of it was like one show
sold out or two and then people liking the show

(02:27:43):
so much that it just kept rolling into other things.
How many shows were in London, I don't know how
many shows Chris Rock shows. It was like we'll do
two and there's five more, then there's five more, and
then yes, okay, let's oh fuck, there's too many for
the hammer style. Let's see if we can do that.

(02:28:03):
Let's do the O two. Oh, the old two sold
out in a day. Let's do another like it was,
like it was, And do you prepare it to her
like a rock star? Like do you do it every
other night? Because I know, like you used up a
register of your voice, Like what happens if you have
a cold or your horse it fucked, your fucked. I
mean you gotta when you get off stage, you drink

(02:28:24):
your tea, You try to talk as little as possible.
You you try to watch what you do even on stage. Um,
I mean I got, I got pipes like a metal singer. Yeah.
I was about to say, you are, like, yeah, I
got when I when I did the play years ago.
The motherfucker, the hack, uh, the whole experience. I was

(02:28:47):
the low man on the totem pole, the whole experience.
I was the rookie right through rehearsals and blocking and everything.
Right the moment we got to the stage, I was
you couldn't with me because you projected yeah, every yeah,
every I was the only one that didn't have to
have a doctor and get vitam and B twelve shots

(02:29:08):
and whatever for my voice because I played fifty thousand people.
Playing a thousand wasn't anything you know when you were going,
uh and traveling to other countries, was there anything in
your act that you had to kind of change or
tailor to fit that country? Pop culture? Do you have
someone look changes from town to town? I mean you

(02:29:29):
you do a thing like okay, what's what's your Walmart?
What's your flat? With references? So who's the prime minister,
who's the president, who's the Okay? This is there a
researcher who does that for you? Let you know I
do it or you know Alan Leads would do it. Uh,
you know this a Rod joke is now Ronaldo joke.

(02:29:52):
You know what I mean? Like you do those things,
but um, but and you have to just change that stuff.
The jokes with that talk about men and women to
change shit. Men and women are mad and happy about
the exact same things all over the world. There's no

(02:30:16):
the relationship dynamics don't change anywhere. So lastly, all your script,
what's what's your what's your pin game? Into like what's
I'm working on a script. I can't really describe it
right now. Well now I want you to describe it,
but you are, you know, I'm working. I'm working. I'm

(02:30:36):
trying to get my man from Atlanta to help me
out a little bit. Uh, I'm working on something. Hopefully
I can finish it before the tours over and uh,
you know, get back into directing. The Top five opened
some doors for you. And that Top five I get
a lot of offers to direct, um offers producing, Like,

(02:30:58):
you know, people took me serious, Like okay, yeah, I
feel like like another situation. You're you're you know, and
it's like the third movie I directed, so it's like, okay,
some filmmakers takes a while. Hopefully, you know, I got
to do it again. Honestly, like David ol Russell's first
it wasn't David d Russell out the box or even

(02:31:20):
you know, and I shouldn't compare myself to him, but
I'm just saying people artists grow. You know, the second
Fuji's album, you know, it's a big jump. It's the
second Nirvana album. It's the big jump. So you know,
I got a big jump in my third movie, and
hopefully it'll you know, I don't take for granted and

(02:31:42):
fucking you know how much of that was autobiographical in
terms of the struggle in the character in the movies
and struggle was alcohol? Was that personal or was it
a struggle? Wasn't alcohol with me? I mean a little bit,
but not to the extent The struggle with me was
just Pardian. Struggle with me was girls. Honestly, do you

(02:32:05):
know that was like Okay, I could fuck so and so,
or I can get on stage. You know, I can
juggling fucking six chicks and you know that's six conversations,
that's six complaints. That's like, you know, I mean, that's
like you know, I mean, that's you know, that's like

(02:32:27):
being a manager of a sucking Arby's and ship my shift.
How can I get like it's like literally yeah, just
like okay, let me get that part done with. All right? Well,
Mr Rock, I know this was painful for you. I

(02:32:47):
gotta figure out a three hour three ever to ask
you are you don't? And before we go, I just
want to say, man, you are the reason I drive
in ultimate from the from the thing you did. I

(02:33:09):
think it's on MTV you talk about how you like
to steal that I think. Yeah, like I drove an
ultimate and I was like, you know what I'm about.
That was the whole Jokey, that's one of those things
they said, you want to do it. I said, only
if I could make it funny. You did it. And now,
like even on the top of you're talking about you
being like a private I'm currently living out one of

(02:33:31):
your jokes because I just bought a house and I'm
like one of only of the three black families. Like
in the whole joint, the guy that used to own
the house was the dentist. There you go where it was, Well, sir,
I thank you, and I'm certain that you'll make me
pay for this somehow. I will. I will. I'm staying

(02:33:53):
in town, so if anything's going on later, let me know.
I gotta go by. You're not gonna go by two
or close. Nice, You're not gonna do it any mury,
just go to mom by the red I found out
that he didn't have an outfit, he didn't have an
outfit and figure out he didn't have an outfit for
delirious and just went to the mom and saw the

(02:34:13):
leather suit inside of him. It's not even a suit.
They're like, he already had the pants. Of course it's
not even a suit. They don't even match. Oh wait,
you don't. You don't have a wardrobe present. I do,
but sometimes you just want to walked through. And let's
gonna say, dare I introduced him to the crazy Words Steve.

(02:34:33):
Oh never mind, anyway, Thank you very much, Chris Rock.
We appreciate you coming on this show. This Question of
Supreme will be back with more reflections. Reflections like what

(02:34:54):
did you learn? I learned that if Chris Rock everyone
wants to quit comedy, he will be the most amazing
a and r like for real, or at least the
most opinionated and I mean not nine problem story can't
be denied like that. That ship was real? Right he? Yeah? He?
I'm telling you he has a tendency too. I thought

(02:35:14):
I liked filler and non relevant rap stuff, but he
loves filler and just you know, he goes beyond a
person's Oh you know what else? I learned what my
raps will destroy you next? Alright, man, I learned that
Chris Rock is um And I'm not just saying that,

(02:35:37):
you know he's here, but he is my favorite comedian.
Like favorite. I mean he he had been for years,
but just uh, sitting here and talking to him and
just the way he discusses like his personal life and uh,
you know, just discussing the journey of like going through
a divorce and how you you know, losing that year
and all of that, what that entails. And you know

(02:35:58):
the thing that he said about how if you're not
on the TV, if you're not a movie star, if
you're not on TV, years can go by without motherfucker
seeing you. You know what I'm saying, And like that
ship is real. So that man listen, you know what
I mean. So for him, he's just real, Like people
won't recognize you. That people she came back and nobody

(02:36:20):
kne who I was just shut up. But now he's
just he's just all around. It's just a real dude.
And um, he's definitely a person. That ship he said
about not being with people like what we're saying, like
being untalented and sexually transmitted, that ship is fucking true.

(02:36:42):
Like there has been sexual opportunities I have passed down
because I didn't think that much of a person's art,
not not even wrong crewe, Like I just didn't think
the art that that girl made was whatever. So it's
just like, yeah, like I don't wanna you know, you know,
I don't want you, you know, to make this vagin

(02:37:03):
of decision and I can't support your art, like I
feel that would be disingenuous, you know what I mean,
Like I can't do that. People think of pim they
got no feelings, but the pimp got feeling. I wouldn't
do that to her. So but yeah, but that's real man.
So he's just a super relatable dude. Man. Still my
still my top number one. Okay, you guys told me,

(02:37:24):
someone told me that I don't know how to take
a compliment. Uh. I actually felt honored that, you know,
when he said I don't hang around untalented people. Has
around you wait on each other. I'm telling you, oh, man,
he really likes my talent. You know. I appreciate that.
Chris is the dude that, like, when you're stagging it

(02:37:46):
in one particular area of your life and then it's
it's a sudden um, it's an upsurge, you know. I'll say, like,
in the last five years, things have definitely changed for
me and dealing with family members and all that stuff.
Like you know, you don't know how to deal with
it because you just think that you know, you're gonna

(02:38:09):
be a a starving artist or a broke artist or whatever,
like a struggling artists or whatever the case is. And
so he was really there to let me know, like
to get he was the he was the magical negro
they see, the one that he was kind of like
your rich nigger whisperer knew that you knew your nigger

(02:38:31):
whisper Like, yeah, he seems to do that with a
lot of people, though now he does. Like his first
thing was he was like, he's like, all right, you're
gonna meet me here tomorrow. I was like, why where
are we going? He's like, We're going to a not
a tea party, like we're going to a cocktail party.
And I was like, why would I want to go there?
He says, because you never know the day that you're
gonna need to borrow sixty dollars so you could develop something.

(02:38:55):
And I was like, huh, Like he just he just know.
It was like for real, like now you have to
take that and you have to do I went to
this thing with him. We shook a bunch of hands,
a bunch of old rich people. You now have to
be Chris Rock at some point and pass the baton
do the same thing mentoring. That's great. Yeah, it's called
Ques Love Supreme only on Pandora only. You know how

(02:39:19):
much stuff I've learned on this show that I actually
like applied to my everyday life now straight up, straight
up anyway, Yeah, he taught me a lot. So I'm
very grateful that he did the show. Bill Um. So yeah,
the whole him being the secret A and R or
whatever behind the um the jay Z ninety nine problems

(02:39:39):
and like we were talking when we were on break, like,
can you imagine what it would be like if jay
Z picked problems that it would be amazing. I actually
kind of want to hear that. So, j if you're
listening to get a table, I think it might be
time to revisit that. And I learned one more thing,
one more thing. My wraps will destroy you, will destroy

(02:40:03):
you where you learn. Um. He kept going back to
his ability, um, and you know, his his ability and
the value of of blending in being being able to
hang with anybody. And uh, I feel I've made a
bit of a career of that myself. I'm not laughing.

(02:40:23):
But now I cannot wait for the day we get
carrerass one on this shear. I know our intro is
going to be nothing but my wraps. I'm sorry Steve
far for interrupted go it. Um. Yeah, his his his
thing about blending in and um, being able to hang
with all sorts of different crowds and people, and the

(02:40:44):
value and that and that it's a skill, and um,
I can vouch for it, I think to some extent. Also,
I thought it was cool, um, because you and I
are always making the comparison between musicians and comedians and
saying all the similarities between the two different trades, and um,

(02:41:05):
he mentioned a major difference, Um, that musicians can can
work on continue to play their old material, you know,
and that's actually what the audience wants to hear most
of the time, is the the old songs and the
hits and so forth, and and comedians have to come
with the with the new stuff in order to So

(02:41:27):
I thought that was cool that you know, this sort
of major difference between those two things which we don't
think about. We always think about the similarities. And I
also got to mention that X in front of nat X,
which was really so awesome, remember that time you didn't
that's really cool. Alright, alright, Bill bill Um. I used

(02:41:52):
to open a lot for comedians back in the day,
and I remember being backstage and they're being like the
most introverted, angry folks at Freestyle loves the premu U
to open for a lot of comedians because we were
a comedy thing in in you know, in Edinburgh at
the fringe anyway, there's just really introverted dudes. And you
were like and made me not want to hang out
with comedians. And so Chris Rock very much changed that
because he's just he was not He's not like that

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at all, and he's he's yeah, I would say so
like they were. You know, when your job is to
try to make people laugh all the time, I feel
like the rest of the time you're just like a
sad dick. And then this wasn't like that at all.
I like that. And how about that divorce can really,
you know, change a person, right, So there's like there's
the highs of Chris Rock's life and there's the loads
and it's all some ship and yeah, the look of

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acknowledgement on Fonte's face, I don't like you kind of
like can't really do together. I mean pretty much more
than all right, what do you do? Building Fonte? What
are you two going to feel? Betrade, like four years
from now when you're like, all right, I've never getting

(02:42:56):
married again. Are you getting married? I'm never getting married again.
I know that. I'll a would say I would say this,
will I will say this, You're definitely getting married again.
Everyone says that, why do you say that? Okay, okay,
this is why they say. This is why they say it. No,
that's why they're saying. This is your haircuts made a marriage.
People can't haircut for marriage. My raps were made destroy

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you my nikka Bill Sherman got the number two on
the Fantastic Sam Shaw. Alright, your account, go ahead. Okay,
this is why I was, I would say, because this
is as a person that had said that I would
never do it again, and I want to do it again.
All right. It's a couple of things, all right. First

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thing is that you got to realize that there are
like a common threads that run through all marriages, but
sometimes you can just be with the wrong person, you
know what I'm saying. And for me, I just know
in my marriage that was just the wrong person, you
know what I mean, and so and and not even
putting it on her because we cool now. But for me,
the person I was when I got married was not

(02:44:10):
ready to be married, Like you know what I'm saying.
So it's like if you eat if you've never eaten
beef before, and somebody make you a cheeseburger and it's
just fucked up, and you taste that, you like, I
hate cheeseburger. It's like, no, it ain't that all cheeseburgers
sucked up cheeseburger. I was gonna say, But you're s
when you were at the altar. When you were at

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the altar, was there a point when you're like a ship?
Maybe not? You caught up in the moment you couldn't
wait to frank you beverly amazing. No, it wasn't. I
never had a moment where I thought, like ship. It
wasn't that. I mean, I think you you know, I
was all long before that first Oh when I realized

(02:44:52):
I sucked up? Right, Oh, now I realized I sucked
up like within the first the first year, you know
what I mean, Maybe like the first someone shows you
who they really are. Yeah, that shows you who they
really are. And I mean and even beyond that again,
I mean like it really just depends on who you are.
And I just speak specifically as as as men. You

(02:45:14):
know what I'm saying, just talking to them, man like,
it really depends on us. It depends on it's not
so much. And it is the part that like women,
they don't like to talk about. It's like when a
man decides to get married, like we're saying with Chris,
it's at the top of your game. It's when we
at the top. So it's like, it really ain't got
ship to do with her. It's got to do with
who you are, you know what I mean. You know,
it ain't got nothing to do with you know, with who,

(02:45:36):
and it ain't got nothing to do with who you
who she is. She could be like the greatest mothercker ever,
like cook, clean, big ass, facted, whatever you like. But
if you ain't big, I mean, you know, whatever you like, Yeah,
if you have all that, but if you ain't ready
for that, and then it don't matter what she got.

(02:45:56):
What I'm saying the first three big you feel me.
So we're just saying, so we say intelligence because that's
what they want to hear and talent STDs what whatever
talent is sexually transmitted sexually transmitted untalentedness. That's fucking scary.
But now, so I would say that boss Bill, I
mean unpaid Bill. I think you know you you're feeling

(02:46:17):
it that now because you fresh out of it. You
want to get mad, and I ain't you still going
through your divorce, like you're still going through the aftermath,
like you still got like your thousand yards still of divorce.
You know what I'm saying, because that ship is fucking
traumatic at this point. And I have the right hair,
so I'll be fantastic, you know, fine, Fine, And I

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would saying I don't know saying this because I was
the guy that before I was like fun this, I
never do I never do it again. And I kind
of had to eat some humble pie once I decided
to do it. But it's a process, and you know
you you work through it and you may decide to
do it, you may not. But if nothing else, I
think that your heart will soften once you make it
out of this joint. Like you gotta treat you gotta
treat the vorce like PT is D Like you really

(02:47:01):
got to treat that ship like you've been through something
many so many abbreviations, STDs, ptsd s. It's all yeah,
you gotta yeah, you gotta treat it like that. You
gotta get yourself at that time to really to really heal.
And then if you decided to do it again, you
know you can make a bet decision. Divorcedora, that's gonna

(02:47:21):
be the offspring. Yeah, when we get our side shows
all day just like remember that ship. Hey, our boss
Scott's here. Did you learn anything we embarrass? Did we
do we embarrass the higher ups and office upstairs? No?
I mean, look, there's a lot of things I think
in this interview that we're super interesting. One, uh to

(02:47:43):
what Fonte was saying, super real, like more you always
felt like he was at and in his comic and
celebrity persona, but just having him here in the room.
Definitely a real dude, super talented. Most comedians Seinfeld otherwise,
I'm a big fan of comedy. They take a year
to work out before they go out on the old
and they get a solid sixty to ninety minutes before
they do that, and he's literally putting it together, winging

(02:48:06):
yea as its because no he's my Chris is my
preparation guru for all the for all the folklore I
talk about, like the ten thousand hour practice thing, Like
I'm with him when he's at this obscure club, like
working things out with his grandfather glasses and all these notebooks.

(02:48:28):
Like when he's prepping stuff, he's not like this sure
you know coxs your walk on on the stage and thing. No,
he's like walking on the stage with pointext to glasses,
with a whole bunch of composition notebooks. Okay, what's try
to talk about? Okay, try some food jokes. No, I'm
not that okay Ravioli so no, no, no, no, no

(02:48:50):
no no. And he's like like literally and watching the
process and to see nobody laugh. And if a joke
doesn't work, he's like, you know, I'm like, okay, let
me try okay. Uh nikes. So like he's real scientist,
he's really working it out, like the reason, right, He's
the reason why I started prepping my DJ sets, Like, oh,
to be that great, you have to prep and then

(02:49:12):
not just go up there and wing it. How do
the audiences respond to him when he's working stuff out?
You know, like you said, they might not laugh. But
like sometimes people or sometimes it's weird because lately I'll
see him the last year when like you just gotta
come to the Comedy Seller, like now he if he's
going to Comedy Seller, then everybody's gonna like Louie is

(02:49:33):
gonna show up, Seinfield might show up, because he's definitely
showing up. Uh, Hannibal will be there. Amy's gonna be
If Amy and him are there, then basically nine of
the gods of comedy will also be there. I think
if you're coming to the Comedy Seller, if you're an
audience member that's going to that club, I think you
kind of know what you're in for. I think like
they don't because when I say no Jim for meaning

(02:49:55):
like they would like to see someone work that out,
you know what I mean? Pay sense. Ever since Louis,
people understand that that's that the Comedy Seller is the
working out spot. But you know it's also the you're
caught up in the moment because you know, if Chris
is on, then damn Kevin Hart must be oh my god,

(02:50:17):
there he is right there like it's it's it's But also,
like he said, comedians will they feel like them for
each other. Also, Yeah, and the real, the real workout
happens upstairs because once they're done and they go back
up to that booth in the back, that's when they start,
you know, you know, you bomble mes ship and da
da da da da and they start comparing notes. Like

(02:50:38):
that's the real That's the part that I wish people
could really see about the process of of comedy building.
There was two other things he said that I kind
of wish we had dug a little deeper on, which
was he talked about all of his friends doing drugs
and he didn't, and I kind of wanted to know why,
Like what was it? Like was he afraid? Was it health?
Is it just like I don't want to be that
guy because his dad would have beat his ass. I

(02:51:03):
kind of figured that too. And then the other moment
when he decided to go to the when he saw
the ad and went down to the comedies, Like what
what made him say I can do comedy? Like he
at that point he had said nothing had ever come
other than he was just a fan of it, like
scientific in this approach, but he's not scientific romantic, Like
I'm scientific romantic. I'll fetish size over Oh my god, Like,

(02:51:26):
so when you had this MP three, you know, this,
this MP three of this particular song, did you think
that he can nostalgic over MP threes? Now, Shi, Well,
I think there's but and the stories you've heard on
this show have kind of ruined that notion because you
hear all this stuff is happy accidents. Right. Well, I'm

(02:51:48):
fine with the happy accidents, but no one, no one
really scientifically genius, tends to look over there. You know,
they're very dismissing of of their work and that stuff.
So it's been a whole lot of happy accidents and
not overthinking things. Yeah. I do all the overthinking anyway,
when half of Queen Uh wait, I have a funny story,

(02:52:14):
funny Chris Rock story. If we're ending, if we're ending
the show. Um, it was like a year and a
half ago. You were working on the music for UM
for his movie Oh I Forgot scored? Yeah, and um,
for some reason you had me text him or call him,
and for some reason my my number ended up in
his phone. So one night I'm at home, hi as hell,

(02:52:39):
and uh, I get this FaceTime and it's Chris Rock, right,
it says Chris Rock FaceTime, like he's calling me. So
I'm like, okay, so I picked I pick it up
and it's Chris Rocky's like in the back of a
car or a limo or something like that, and he's like,
who is this, Like he's looking at you know, I'm like,
you call me? He go, go, this is Steve Us engineer.

(02:53:00):
He goes, oh ship, he goes, I don't know how
that just happened. I go, you must have just asked
FaceTime me, you know, like as style FaceTime, Like my
number must just been in his phone and his must
have sat on his phone. So I'm like, yeah, okay,
how are you doing. He's like, goods, I'm gonna go
back to smoking crack now by and I just like

(02:53:23):
that was the perfect Chris rock interaction ending all right,
let me have I'm pay Bill Fox Bill and h Sugar,
Steve fon Tikolo and yeah yo this of course Love Supreme.
We will talk to you on the next girl round.
All right, of course Love Supreme. It's a production of

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