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April 23, 2025 71 mins

On this episode of Quiet Please, Allie Goodbun, dancer at the Moulin Rouge, creator, and co-founder of Ready Freddie, joins Mel and Kira to talk golf life, dancing full time at the Moulin Rouge (and the audition process!), performing in the Paris Olympics opening ceremony, staying fit/nutrition for 12 shows a week, and running a business with a business partner based half way around the world. Also, Mel accidentally writes a eulogy and is announced as European Solheim Cup team Vice Captain (unrelated).

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay, we're back for another episode of Quiet Please and Mel.
We are just thriving today.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I've just flew into New York. No, you didn't, great,
I just been into New York.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
So.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm working at NBC Studios this week for Chevron's So
and we thought it'd be a good because I've got
I'm doing a panel tomorrow, so I thought it'd be
a good idea to get which I always regret, get
the six am flight and I just I look horrific.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's always a good idea until you're waking up at
four in the morning.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, and it's horrific or whatever.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
You didn't refreshed though after you get it a gorgeous.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Why, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I have committed to doing absolutely nothing today except for
talking to you.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
So there's that.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Today is the first day in over six weeks that
I haven't had something to do.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
That's so nice though. A busy trip though, like was
it one of my chips. Were you doing stuff all
the time or was it good to Hawaii? It was
actually great.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
It was the perfect mix of family time and adult time.
We went on some good hikes. We did a lot
of great beach time. So it didn't feel too too
crazy busy. I ate a lot of pizza, bagels, a
lot of poke How good is oh my gosh, like
at the grocery.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Store, and it's like incredible, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, so I feel I feel really Uh, it was nice.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
I just didn't do that much on my phone.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, I've been very connected over the last month or so,
so it was nice to be.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Nice to fresh Yeah, very nice.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
How was your weekend?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's good.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
It was Easter. It was good.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
We didn't do that much. We just kind of had
a bit of family time. This is the first time,
well it's the second time. I mean Carl had been
away from Kai, but first time on a plane away.
So Carl is this night, I know, she's just with
me up to Nanny Rachel. She's looking. She's been kindly
kindly offered her services for the last couple next couple

(02:27):
of days, which is great, and he loves her.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
So he was super cute with her yesterday. Actually he's so.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, he's in great hands and she wors having the
time of his life. But I feel like when his
mums are away, well I feel like they don't really
have concept of time.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Like Carl's going to come back, He's like, where have
you been? And he's like, oh, I just said too long?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, this is different, but we take Steve. We take
our dog.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Steve to No, it's totally the same.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
To take care.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
And I've always like, I wonder if he knows how
long he's been here.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, No, it is true, though, I don't we think
that you get mum get and stuff. And then I'm like, oh,
he's so. But yeah, we had some excellent golf this weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I thought, yes, I actually didn't watch any Do you
need me to tell you what happened?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
No, I know this justin Thomas one because I have
Instagram and I saw that and I was really happy
for him because he's been through it to get back there. Yeah,
so that was really exciting. And then we also had
Ingrid Limb that way.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Reason number two thousand and eight two where I had
to quit golf because We've got talents like that coming
up college and this kicking ass that's not for me.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Did you know that her caddy, Scottie caddied for has
caddied for me in the last like four Hilton Grand
Vacations events. So he texted me last night and he goes, sorry, Katie,
won't be available to caddy for you next.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Year at Hilton, Katie kd Kira Dix Katie.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh that is so funny. I'm condy for you, so
happy for you.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I actually caddy for you, and that would be so funny,
would you actually, of course I would be Rea.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
I don't know. Four days of me, No, that's true.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Actually, why didn't said do four days?

Speaker 5 (04:20):
I would love for you to carry for me.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Okay, let's put let's we'll see what the people want
any public?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, I know, I was just gonna screwed myself here for.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay, Well, we'll revisit. We'll revisit. You had some exciting
news announced today.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
I did yesterday, I did today today.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yeah, I tell the people.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yes, I've been kindly asked by Captain Anon Auquist to
be a vice captain of the European Salim Cup team.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
So very excited about that.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Thank you to keep it a secret for about months now,
but yeah, very excited me. And she's named me and
Caroline Headwell, which I think is a great team head Wells.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, she's.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
A menace.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
She's a menace, and she's just got some really good insights,
like already she's just yeah, she's she's making some really
good points and so yeah, and is very privileged, very honored.
And I asked me obviously I was going to always
say yes, I always want to be part of a time.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
So yeah, so far, so good.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
So I'm like, what are the points you're making? What
are your country?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Actually I did a bit on apparel styling, Yes I did.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Now that you're getting Aaron Limb's styling advice.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
You're exactly erin bigger thank you.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
We have a Pinterest board of mel Reed Business Casual
and you know, cocktail hour, things like that.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
I need to see this pinterest for it.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
So I was talking to Oh, gosh, I don't want
to do this to myself. So I was I still
I am in touch with like my I hate using
them as psychologists like mental coach that I had when
I was and I use him for like kind of
different things that. Okay, Carl's ovation is already laughing at

(06:06):
the story, so he asked me to write, but test me.
I said, yes, of course I will, no problem. So,
like obviously me being me, I completely forgot. So I
thought of it the other day when I was doing
some ADMIN, I thought, right, I'll do it. So wrote
it all out, said very lovely things which were all
true about about him Duncan. And for some reason I

(06:27):
forgot the word testimony testimony, so I googled when you
say something nice about someone okay, and I saw this word.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
I thought, yes, that's the word. I knew it was
a word anyway.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
His wife deals with all his ADMIN, so I sent
her an email saying Duncan's eulogy.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Okay. I didn't think anything of it, really proud of myself.
And then he he call text me and he's like, Daddy,
L's in a confused your email you said. I'm like why.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
She's like, do you know something that I don't know?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
And she's like, a eulogy? Google it and I'm like,
so I went, Carly, what's her eulogy? She's like, what
have you done? I said, well, I wrote something really
nice about Duncan and it's a eulogy, right, No, that's
when someone like dies. I was like, oh my god.
And Carl is like, you can never send an email
without me overlooking it again ever again. I'm honestly, I

(07:29):
don't get that embarrassed that easily, but I was pretty embarrassed.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Does you imagine being the wife in opening.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
This she greaked out, She's like, don't care. She was like,
dug ahead, I don't know something that she didn't exactly.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
That is the way that I named it Duncan's eulogy.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
To be filed away for a future day.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I know.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I obviously when I googled it, like saying something ice
past one, I obviously didn't me being me, I just
kind of like summarized it and didn't actually read the
content of.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, you probably this is what people say about someone
to sum up their life.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
You missed the when I missed the funeral.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
I missed the funeral bit, So.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Yeah, that was an easy mistake. Can happen to any
of us.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, So that's my That was my embarrassing story for
the week, and I think that was I don't think
I've had any more embarrassing stories this week.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, so new week, new starts.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
There's always time, There's always time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
My only weird thing over the weekend was anytime I
post any pictures of Andrew, my husband. I get so
many unfollowers on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Do you know what I do?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Carly and Kit's while, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's so funny to me because it's like, but why
did you think that there was?

Speaker 5 (08:50):
I don't know, but they.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Surely they know that you're married, and what do they.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Think they think that they can just you're going to
go on a date and they've happily ever after.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Maybe I've I've burst their bubble or something.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Dust Cara another one bites the dust.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
It was just so weird to me. That's the only
funny thing I wanted to tell you about.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, I say, if I post anything about Kai, anything
about Carlie, I lose light so many followers. Not that
I give a ship, I mean, to be honest, I
really don't.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I wonder if it's just people are there for like
very specific golf content, and then when I show other
parts of my life, they're like, oh, I don't want
to see this unfollowed.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
So people are so odd, they are odd aren't they.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
I don't know, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Oh wait, did you play.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Golf with m k?

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Oh god? How have we not spoken about this?

Speaker 6 (09:43):
First of all?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Wait, my first feeling when I saw these photos was
just utter jealousy.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, so she missed I was happy.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah she missed it.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Oh okay, I'm going to give you a short story
because it was a bit of a day. So she
messaged me, I mean Jacksonville, love to come and check out?
Of course, said, our book is of tea time. At
nine forty a friend Christy came, and my friend Drew came,
and I just the vibe straight away when they came
on the drive range was just we're here to have
a good time. She was, she's awesome and tell you what,

(10:18):
for a beginner, very very good, like pleasantly surprised.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, I guess she's quick, like she's yeah, picked bad
way people are, you know, performers. They have a really
good understanding of their bodies.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
So yeah we met, we teed off. So what we
probably met them at nine teed off at nine forty.
We didn't leave the golf club until nine pm.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Well sounds like a usual day.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Well I know, but first I left first. I was like, guys,
I have to go home. I was like, because they're
my guess right, I'm not gonna leave, and I'm having
a great time. Like we went out and played more
whole we had like we came in, had lunch, had
a couple of beers, like three or four beers, and
then we went back out and played like twilight golf
until it basically was dark, and then we went back
and had a couple more cocktails.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
It was so fun.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Honestly, it was one of the best days of golf,
like I've had a long time. Andrew was so great
with their my mate which I knew anyway.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
But it was awesome.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
But honestly, very pleasantly surprised by how good she was
and hits it miles really miles, Like I'm not exaggerating,
like two sixty, Like got a couple like that, like
seventy two eighty honestly, and I'm notting yeah, like very
very good. So yeah, honestly, with her and a mate,
Christie who works for CIA, like m it was one

(11:36):
of the best, one of the best days agolf I've
had a long time. It was so much fun and
so I expected it to be good. But it was, Yeah,
it was good. I missed Chakira. We missed you, Missie.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
I know I was there in spirit in my mind,
you guys.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
And Maui, which sounds a lot bit than Stricksonville.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
But no, I don't know, but no, yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
No, pleasantly surprised, to be honest with you. She was also.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, MK, I mean she's been grinding. Those lessons are
paying off.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, nice, still swing on her. She's got all the gear,
looks apart all the gear.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Everyone in golf has been sending her everything.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
You can tell.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
She's got like three Scotti Cameron's in a bag.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
So funny.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
It's good to be.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's good to be, MK.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
So you're going to be at NBC in Stanford this
week to chat about Chevron all week. What do you
What should the people keep in mind as they watch
the first women's major of the year.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
It is Yeah, Yeah, it's an interesting place because obviously
they moved it from we always have it at Mission Hills.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
It was kind of like our Masters.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I'm still not one hundred percent sold on the venue,
whether it's a major championship venue.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
It's a fantastic golf course. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Have you played it.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, I've played it as the Chevron the first year
was there. But it's funny because always produces very high winners,
like word number one winners the last two, which is
what you want.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
And Nelly.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, yes, it was just kind of wild, really like
there's no surprise. I mean it's only been two years,
but there's no surprise winner.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I think got a little dark horse for everyone. I
think Lauren Cochlan is on fire at the minute.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Her last year has been insane, a joke.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Like so good. She played incredible ass all last year
as well.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Like I was walking with her group a couple of
a couple of matches and I was like, damn, this
girl's not missing a shot.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Played great last week.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I feel like she's kind of still right and higher
for two wins last year and then I don't think
you can count out Charlie now a count out Charles
as European. So yeah, I think I think Nellie's wanting
to get into a bit more of a groove.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
She's not exactly had.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
She's still played great in my opinion, but hasn't had
that in contention kind of feeling yet. So I'm sure
that she's uh, she's ready to go for that as well,
so and defending, so we'll see. I think they're probably
my three to watch is Lauren, Charlie and Nelly.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Okay, and how can the people watch you?

Speaker 4 (14:05):
What about you?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Oh, I'm just gonna say what you're going to say
because I here expert. Okay, I'm just wearing an LPG
expect which.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I love the support. By the way, Thank.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
You, go Teap Go team. Yeah, so you just watched me.
I think I'm just gonna be on NBC. I'm doing
life from from the amazing NBC studios.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
So perfect.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
We shall see perfect.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Okay, So Mail, you're in New York City. I think
you've got some fun activities going on this week.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I'm going to panel tomorrow for Business of Women's Sports,
so talking about all things women's sports, which I always
love talking about, and how we can you know, I'm
basically on there to talk about women's goal side of
things and how I think that we can grow basically
visibility in women's golf because I have a lot of
opinions on that. So they're probably going to regret having

(14:56):
me on that. I know, I know I've not been
known to be a chatterbox. But yeah, no, I just yeah,
it's really cool to be part of. Actually a little
nervous if I'm completely honest with you, because what it's
like with like people like legit people that are like on.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Panels and I'm just there just internet people.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
No, and I say stupid words like eulogy instead of testimony.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
So just if you get confused about the word in
your head, just don't say it.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Just don't say it, okay, just don't give great advice,
great advice, thank you. Yeah. And so it's funny like
if you were just to speak to me about it,
I would be always talked about it, very like in
a structured way. But when i'm like sometimes I overthink.
Basically I try and be too perfect.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah yeah, which is totally yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
So I'll let you know how it goes. If I
say the wrong word, I'll let you know. It'll be
good to talk.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Please do any.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Please have have have Cassette.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yes, well she's uh, she's moderating the panel, so she'll yeah, yes,
oh my gosh, I know. So she will give it,
she'll see it.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
You'll be fine, She'll know to move on.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
If I say pineapple, it means that I'm really fucked
and I need her to move on.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
It's my safe way, pineapple.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
So we need her to move on, Okay, But she'll
get that, she'll know I have a luck in my eye,
which I basically look like.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
I've seen that look in your eye when you.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
One of my favorite stories about you is the first
time I hosted Live from with You and we had
Mega Ghana on the set at.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
The US Women's Open. And I don't know if this
was like your first time ever?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yes, was it okay?

Speaker 2 (16:39):
So the way that it works usually it's so it's
me the host, and two analysts is Brandle and Mel,
and each one of us goes around and asks a
question to the guest.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Who's Mega Ghana.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
There's like young superstar playing for Stanford And I asked
a question, and then Brandal asks a question, and then
it gets to Mel's turn, and she kind of like
and stutters for a second and like gets the question out.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
And it was the most basic question, like how are
you feeling about the weight?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, my god, it was fine. It was clean.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
But then like we go through every one of us
again and it gets back to bel do you turn
and look at me.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
I just looked a Kia and I was like terror,
Oh yeah, that was right.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
No, Brandon was asking a question and the producers we
are all here, the producer and it's like right now,
you're next, and I just look over at Kre and
I'm like, no, shake my head.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
I was like, I went pineapple. Yeah, that was bad.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I jumped in and asked the last question and we
finished and then finally like the segment ends, leams and
mel goes ship.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
I didn't know I had to ask questions and this.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
No idea, no clue, just bullshiting my way through. It's usual.
So thank you, Kira.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
It's beauty for having such mentals like you to save
my ass majority of time.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Time, Thank you any time, My god, that was amazing.
All right, well, I'm sure your panel will.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Go go thank you.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I'll let you know, and if it doesn't, it will
be a good sway for the poultry win when.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Okay, So we have a guest today, which I was
so pumped about.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Obviously.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
So Ali Goodbun is a real life show girl at
the Mulon Brouge in Paris, and I started following her
last summer around the Olympics, because I was clearly just
getting fed a lot of Paris et cetera content. And
she is amazing at sharing her life on stage backstage.

(18:34):
She's an athlete, you know, all of that stuff, and
I just think that she's such an interesting person and
very different from anybody that we would normally talk to
or meet in everyday life. And she has a little
bit of golf from her family growing up, playing with
her dad and her brothers and stuff. But this was
just a fascinating, like dip into a whole new world

(18:56):
that I love, and I thought was really interesting for
you too.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
What it was because you were bringing me into all
these this theatrical world of yours, and.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
I'm really enjoying it actually, you know learning.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
I know obviously these you know, they're so talented to
be on stage, but to see what they go through,
I mean, they literally live a life of an athlete,
which I can relate to.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
So I appreciate you bringing me into your world.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Care Thank you, mel Sam.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I get to learn about your world, you have to
learn about mine. That's why we work.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
So we work too much of the same thing. No, exactly,
all right, guys, enjoy the interview to talk to you later, Mel.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Hi. All right, Mel, it's a big day on Quiet
please today because we have a special guest. We're so
pleased to welcome Ali Goodbun to the show. Professional dancer
who currently dances in the Mulon Rouge in Paris. She's

(19:53):
an entrepreneur, designer, content creator. She's all over your Instagram
and TikTok if you're online chronically like me.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Ali, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
Thank you so much for having me you guys, this
is so exciting.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
When we put together our original pitch list of who
we wanted to have on the show, you were one
of the first people on my pitch list.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
Dreams so nice piping me up too much?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
No, really, You're really worth they want to So this
is the thing. So our dynamic I Kira is really
opening my eyes to other interests and I'm actually really
enjoyed learning about it. And that's kind of the theatrical
dance Broadway musical space. So it's not something I'm I'm
I know much about, but I'm really getting to like
it because of Kira here is making me like it.

(20:39):
So yeah, it's very excited to have you on. And
I've actually been to me non rouge in Paris.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
Oh course, you know what we're talking about. You know
what's up?

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Well, I mean I want to get that far.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
But yes, I've never been, so yeah, yeah it's cool.
I went during the twenty eighteen when I commentate the
Riding Cup in Paris. I kind of nice a little
moves around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's super cool. It's really
really cool. It is.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
It's so different than anything that you'd find in North America,
and I think that's why I love it so much.
And obviously we'll get into more of that, but it
stands out in a very unique way and it's definitely
a must do in Paris. So I'm happy you went.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Thank you because you live in Paris, right I do.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
I do.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
I've been there for three years now, just dancing the
nights away and I love it.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
It's a bit of a different culture, shock, isn't it
from America.

Speaker 7 (21:25):
It's so different.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
I honestly, I think that's why I've been there for
so long and I'm still really enjoying it is because
it's so different one but also I love the job,
of course, but when you like the city and the job,
it makes it that much harder to leave or change
the situation. So I'm there. I've been there for three
years and years to come, I hope. But yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So before we dive into all of this, you are
an athlete as a dancer.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Can we have a quick lowdown on your golf life.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
My golf life.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
First of all, my dad is huge into golf, like
a member at the club near our house, has been
my whole life. Absolutely loves it. My brother picked that
up from him, So my brother's super into golf as well.
And together they do it like recreationally, but like they're
quite good. And every time we go on holidays, we
have to make sure we go to the resort with
a nice golf course and all the things. Whenever I'm home,
I try to that's like our quality time together. So
either we're going to the driving ranger, we're playing nine

(22:15):
holes is usually all I can handle. But I'm not amazing,
but I can keep up. I can keep up, So
I'm not like a great golfer by any means. But
like I would say, I'm working on my swing still.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
We all we're all working on our swing.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Even the exactly exactly I'm getting into it.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
I think it's gonna be something that I carry on
for the rest of my life, but definitely something that's
in the family which I love.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Well, that's to be golf, isn't it. You can kind
of keep it going all the way through exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
And this I've spoke by this before, but I mean,
obviously I love golf, like I did it as a career,
but it's one of the sports I did do it
as a career.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
A we didn't do it as a career for seventeen years.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Just a few years.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
The cool thing about it, and I said, what I
say to everybody, is like, it doesn't matter like what
level you're at, you can compete with somebody who's at
any level as well because of that the handicapped system
and things like that, And it's just that's what I
love about golf is that I can play against like
somebody who's just started and they have a pretty high probability,
especially now, beating me.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
And so that's just a beauty golf.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
So yeah, I'm glad you're guys, you're getting back into
I guess since Yeah, that'd be good.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
It's and also being from Canada, like I come from
a smaller town, like a suburb of Toronto, I guess
you could say, And it's huge out here, like there's
a golf course every one hundred years, like they're everywhere.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
And for you, as a dancer, you're much more coordinated
than the average person.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
What's your swing thought?

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Is there?

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Are you count doing? Like an eight count in the backstine?

Speaker 6 (23:41):
It's actually a funny way to put it. I mean
it's funny because I feel like I am very particular
with the technique of everything, and like I pay attention
to details a little bit more, I guess than the
average person would with any kind of movement pattern. But
I was talking about this with a friend actually today
because she recently just transitioned into rowing and she'd been
a dancer her whole life, and I asked her, I
was like, do you think being a dancer and then
picking up growing later in life, do you think dance

(24:02):
helped you in any way? And she was like, absolutely,
Like one, flexibility in ways that you don't necessarily realize
that you're more flexible than the average person. And then
also just like picking up any new movement pattern is
huge because as a dancer, you're taught to pick up
choreography so fast, and I feel like that's transitioned into
other things in my life, like picking up golf and
being able to pick up other recreational sports along the way.

(24:23):
But I think at a young age, because I was
a dancer way back when as well, being able to
pick up the move and pattern of golf was a
little bit easier for me, maybe in a sense because
I was able to watch and learn as opposed to
think about all the little details and figure it out.
And I don't know, I just I think anything you
pick up as a dancer, the coordination is obviously there,
but the ability to go from beginner to intermedia is

(24:44):
a little bit quicker than the average person. So that's
definitely been helpful. But yeah, I think also dance it
hurts me in a way that I do look at
things a little bit more detail oriented and I'm like, Okay,
what can I do to improve this? And I get
so frustrated when things aren't feeling exactly perfect.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
I guess could say.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
So I feel like I've got my swing down pat,
but I'm like, what are some things I can do
to change it and make it better. I'm always trying to.
I don't know, overthink things that I don't need to.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
I guess speaking, Yeah, welcome to the world. As a
golfer's it's a constant bat.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
I'm afraid you think you're gonna you think you're gonna
nail it one day and then you can't hit a
bond all the second day.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
So and that's just a professional. But when did you
start dancing? Then? Thank you? Props to me.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
I know, I lasted seventeen years, which is about sixteen
more years than I thought.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
So it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Thank you. So, yeah, what I used to you start dancing? Then?

Speaker 6 (25:34):
I started when I was five, and it was I'm
the oldest child and I just have a younger brother,
so there was no older sister leading the way or anything.
And it was kind of just like what I guess
moms at the time threw their daughters in. That was
like one of the extracurriculars that was on my mom's mind.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
And I had a dance too.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
It didn't work out.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
I feel like, weirdly, everybody I talked to, everybody starts
with dance.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
I didn't.

Speaker 6 (25:56):
They all did that might as well.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
No, but my mom is a dancer.

Speaker 7 (26:02):
Okay, okay, there you go. Yeah, Mel's mom was a
jazzer size instruction.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Like such a jazzu side like aerobics instructor. Yeah, I
mean jazzu size is kind of painting it more than
it is. But yes, she was the rebox shoes and
the roughly sock things. And then yeah she was a dancer.
She did tap ballet as well, so yeah she was.
I think when I was born, the midwife literally handed
me to my mum and I was like, oh look, Joe,
you've got a little girl. You've got a little dancer.

(26:27):
But yeah, I turned out to be a lesbian golfer.
So it was literally the complete opposite of what they expected.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
But Mom got into it and.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, please carry on.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, I'm around two amazing dancers right now, so around you.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Please carry around one amazing against her, one person that
just talks about people that can do these things.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
Continue out.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
I bet you're good after a tequila.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
Oh, no, one is better, No one is better than me.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
After I can see it.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I can see it, alright, Sorry, carry on, on, this
is about you.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
No, no, no, yeah, I don't know, like I just
I just jumped into it right away. My mom threw
me into like a jazz class, because I think that
was the most general and I've always asked her, I'm like,
why the heck, Like how did you think of dance?
Why did you put me into the dance studio that
you did, Like there was more option than just mine.
Now that I look back, it doesn't make sense. Like
she's just been like a lover of music like her
whole life, Like not that she plays an instrument, not
that she dances herself. She just like is obsessied with

(27:23):
like pop songs and like was blasting them in the
car when I was a kid. So I got really
into music, and I think she just linked that together,
like music and dancing kind of goes together, let's give
it a shot. She was like the one mom that
was taking her four year old to like a Shania
Twain concert, Like I was going to all the concerts
with her on Friday nights, and that was kind of
like our bonding thing. So I think I just really
fell in love with watching performers from a young age,
realizing that like that could be a potential for me

(27:44):
in the future, and then just loving dance and doing
it myself. Yeah, and it just obviously stuck.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
So I'm kind of intrigued by like the dancing culture
because I feel like it could be quite similar. I
know nothing about dancing, but like, I feel like it
can be quite similar to professional golf and like tour
life in a way, because I feel like we're like
a traveler. We say on tour, like we're a traveling circus.
Like it's a very big world, but it's a very
small world at the same time, and everyone you know,
knows everyone's business and knows what's going on. And I

(28:11):
just wanted to kind of get a vibe of like basically,
I wanted some goss and like the dance Like what
is the dance culture?

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Like, Yeah, it's a very small world. I feel like
there's very specific sports that are like this, and maybe
it's more independent sports. I guess you could say being
one of them, dance being one of them. It's a
very small world, and growing up as a competitive dancer,
you learn to know everybody's name by the time you're
sixteen because regionally, you just compete against the same dance

(28:38):
studios and the same dancers kind of your whole life.
And then the odd time you'll go to like a
nationals or whatever, and then you're competing against girls you've
never seen before. But with the help of social media
and stuff, people's names are just kind of everywhere always,
and everybody knows everybody, and it just kind of depends.
It's weird how everything falls into place. Like the people
that I was competing against when I was thirteen that

(28:58):
were like amazing in the hip hop cagories of things,
now they're dancing for like Tate McCrae. And then the
girls that were like amazing ballerinas are like with the
Paris Opera ballet. And then here I am just kind
of a floater between like hip hop, jazz, ballet, all
the things. And luckily I've landed in the versatile show
like Mulan Rouge that kind of requires all sorts of
styles and I'm able to do all of those, I guess,

(29:18):
and continue my skills kind of in ballet, hip hop,
jazz all in one show, which is kind of unique.
So it's interesting how everybody just like fell into their place.
But with social media, like I said, I'm able to
keep up with everybody in their life and where they're
at now.

Speaker 7 (29:32):
It's interesting.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
It's a very very small world. Like you said golf is.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
What's the audition process for Mohan Rouge.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
It's quite intense.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
They actually uniquely they travel around the world to audition
and find and scout dancers. A lot of yeah, a
lot of professional companies are just kind of like, hey,
our doors are open at our theater in blank City,
you must come kind of thing. When I auditioned, they
were in Canada. They often go to Australia and they
kind of have like their select cities where they find

(30:00):
the most amount of girls that suit the part. I
think they've had good experience coming to Canada in the past,
so that's why they came again. They go to Australia
every other summer, I would say, to find girls. They
go all around Europe, they go in the UK, and
then they also do a paras audition, so they're everywhere.
But like, they haven't been back to Canada since twenty
nineteen when I auditioned, So it's very hit and miss.

Speaker 8 (30:20):
So if you see an audition found you and they
were like, that's it, We're good.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
That's the only Canadian we need. No no, no, But they yeah,
they're kind of all over the place, but they go
around to scout dancers, and when they do that, they
host an audition. They rent out of space and they
blast the audition notice all over social media platforms and stuff,
just so as many people can see it that would
be interested in coming. Basically, all you do is sign
up and you go. So that's what happened to me.
I saw the audition posting on Google. They were coming

(30:44):
to Vancouver, Canada. I'm from Toronto, so I flew across
the country to audition. And I had never been to
Vancouver before, but my boyfriend's mom was living there at
the time, so I was like, hey, I'm gonna come
stay with you for a night. I flew all the
way down to Vancouver and I went to this audition
really not knowing too much. I had done my research,
of course, but I had only found the audition about
a week prior, so I had seven days to kind

(31:05):
of prep and like mentally prepare for what's to come.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
And I watched.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
This This is an open call, like hundreds.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Of Yeah, it's like an open call, like you could come,
anybody can come and go.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
No, we can't do it totally, so going care Yeah, yeah,
it's it's cool like that though, because you never know
who's going to show up.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
And for a show like ours, like I said, it's
a very versatile show, like everything from the French can
can to like more balletic type numbers. We do some
like jazz funk, hip hoppy kind of stuff. So some
people come out of the woodworks and they're like an
ex gymnast and they can do like all these backflips
and doing some flips in the can can is like
super impressive. So then the higher them on and like
they've never done balley in their life, but it doesn't
matter because they can flip, so like come on in.

(31:43):
Like it's really cool in a sense because you don't
really know who's going to show up. But when I
went to the audition, it was a five hour audition,
and I remember showing up and not knowing a single soul.
So I went in and it was all these Vancouver dancers,
and because I had never been to Vancouver nor competed
as a kid growing up in Vancouver, I didn't know
any names, I didn't know any faces, so I was
just really winging it and I was like, look, I'm
just gonna go tried my hardest, see what happens. There's

(32:06):
nothing to lose. And I put my bag down beside
this one girl and she looked nice and I was like, Okay,
maybe I'll befriend or she wasn't with anybody, and her
name was Laura, and we got chatting, and we chatted
a little bit longer than we probably should have because
people were handing in their resumes and headshots to kind
of introduce themselves to say like, hey, I'm Ali, I'll
be in the back or whatever, and then they can
keep note of who you are. And I remember we

(32:27):
were chatting and we chatted a little bit longer than
we should have, and we ended up being last in
that line, and I think because we were last in
the line, we were like the last impression. The big
director had I guess of the dancers that were there
that day, and I strategically placed myself right at the
front in front of her judging table for the audition,
and and the rest was history. And it's cool because
now I'm in Paris and I'm one of my best

(32:47):
friends in Paris is that blonde girl that I was
at the audition with.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
So it was kind of meant.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
To be, and it was it all worked out for
the better, and I'm so happy I went because they hadn't.
They haven't been back to Canada, like I said, since
so it was luck.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
So you're saying, if I learned how to do a backflip,
I might have a very small.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
I mean, I mean, no, exactly exactly.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
There's still time.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
There's still time.

Speaker 7 (33:09):
Are there projectile objects in the show?

Speaker 6 (33:12):
No, unfortunately not. There's props, but I mean they don't leave.
They don't leave the stage.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Because you can always do that. You could like hit
to a target or something.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
I don't I don't know what that means.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Now you when when you're like hitting towards a target,
like a projectile object, something that flies across.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yes, yes, yes, I would golfer.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yes, that makes that makes sense? Thanks, Karen. Okay, yeah, no,
I would be good at that.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, I'm gonna do it, Okay, and then hit a target.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Clarify that, Clarian.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Lots of shows have these specific standards or things that
you have to do, but it seems like if they're
constantly changing things or is that how the Mulan thinks
of their show? Of like when you when a when
a tourist comes to Paris and they see this, it's
a very specific thing that they're gonna get to see
every time no matter what.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
Yeah, it's Mulan is very unique in a sense that
the show that they currently play debuted the year I
was born, like nineteen ninety nine was like the first year,
and they haven't changed it since. It's been the same
show for like twenty five years, which is wild. And
as a dancer there, the show isn't seasonal, whereas like
if you think of a Broadway show, like a Broadway
show opens and closes at some point in time, like

(34:26):
it only runs for a year, whatever it may be,
and then that's it. Next show opens when like a ballet,
say you're a professional ballerina, it's like Nutcracker season, Nutcracker
scenes in his only Christmas time, and then that's it.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
You know.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
So it's unique because I feel like I've this has
been very lucky and I didn't really consider this before,
but Mulon Rouge is a show that's like always ongoing.
They're open three hundred and sixty five days a year.
Christmas Eve, Valentine's Day, Easter, like you name it, like,
they have two shows every single night. And because of that,
the dancers that are hired. You're basically hired for a
year contract at a time, and come your third year,

(35:00):
it's an indefinite contract, which is cool and it's a
job security system that they kind of have in France
in general. But it's wild because as a dancer, I've
been there for now three years and now I'm on
that indefinite contract so to say, like I just obviously
follow all the terms of my contract and continue doing
my thing and performing well, I can be there as
long as I would like, which is amazing.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
They can't fire you. They can't say thanks but no thanks.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
If like I don't go get a dragon tattoo or
something like, I have the job. But it's like if
I follow a contract and I'm kind of keeping up
my ability to perform and all the things, like, I
can be there rental and forty if I really want to.
So it's amazing because it's very rare that you find
a dance job where like you're locked in and it's
yours until you don't want it, which is amazing. So
very fortunate to have a job like that. But that

(35:44):
being said, because the show is so old, they don't
change much to it throughout the show. We have circus acts.
We have three circus acts per show, and those are
always switching, so like if you come to the show
three years ago and then you come now, you'll see
three different acts, but the dancing bits and the singing
and dancing in between is all the same. So people
usually come to see the French can can because that

(36:06):
was like the birthplace of the iconic, like that rhythm
comes from the moon letters. Yeah, so that's like the
big must see and that's like the finale of our show.
So people come to see the show, they see the
circus acts, they see the dancing and the singing, and
then the show finishes with the big French can Can.
So it's it's quite the it's quite the place, and
it's quite the show, and it sells out weeks in advance.

(36:27):
Every single night we have a sold out audience. So
they're doing something right. Yah, it's got really interested in
loving it.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
How many shows a week are you doing that?

Speaker 6 (36:34):
I do twelve, So we do two shows every night
and we work six days a week.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
It's wild.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
How long is the show? An hour and forty five minutes,
And of.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
That hour and forty five minutes, how many minutes are
you on stage dancing.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
It depends what track or what role you're doing. I
am in like the dancer ensemble, I guess you could
say permanently, but I also know the understudy tracks for
all the soloist and principal roles, so I jump in
and do a principal roll or solos role when one
of them is sick or injured or on holidays or whatever.
So it's nice for me because I get to change
up my track. If you're a principal, you're on stage
for the majority of the hour and forty five minutes.

(37:10):
If you're a soloist, it's maybe about an hour and
a half. And then if you're like the ensemble, you
do about ten routines, but you do have about five
minute breaks in between each one, so it's crazy. It
changes all the time, and it is.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
A lot of dancing regardless of what track you're doing.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
So with regards to that, then obviously, like you must
be training and having like the nutrition stuff must be
basically like a high profile athlete, right like a I
mean you must do to keep your body energized and
everything working smoothly and correctly, and how they should be
like can you just I'm interested in kind of in
other sports, I guess, and like how they're training, how nutrition,

(37:48):
like dietary requirements. I'm just kind of interested in what
your actual day would look like.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
It's interesting because I feel like whenever I say I'm
a dancer, majority of people are like, oh, you must
be on a diet, like you can't eat that cookie whatever.
I'll be like, girl, I have to dance for seven
hours and then I can have as many cookies as
I want.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Like it's like crazy.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
Yeah, So honestly it's kind of vice versa what a
lot of people think. Of course, like I really have
to make sure, especially for myself. I've just learned like
what fuels me the best, and that's having like proper breakfast, lunch,
and dinner. It is at crazy times though, because we
work at night. I'm having dinner when I'm done the shows,
so I actually have dinner at like three am in
the morning, which is wild, but I need to have
that to like fuel myself for the next day.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
It's so crazy.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
But for me, like nutrition wise, it's definitely balanced meal.
It's definitely focusing on the high protein. I haven't quite
like got onto the whole like French like cultural like
they like to have like fresh bread and begs wine. Yeah,
it's huge, and I obviously do eat a lot of those,
but not as much as like people would assume, because
I'm like, beg it with cheese on, it is not

(38:50):
going to feel me like a steak will. So I'm
usually having, honestly a steak every other day. I eat
as much sugar. Honestly, I eat a ton of sugar
during the shows because just to keep my energy up
and running. But like my meals are obviously what I
focus on the most.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
How are you eating that sugar?

Speaker 6 (39:05):
I've honestly, I've never had as much like sour jube
jubes in my life than I have it the show,
because I just sometimes need like I'm like three more
numbers ault you can do it. And I have to
have like fuzzy peaches in my drawer of my vanity
to just like get me through. But oftentimes I also
drink a lot of electrolytes, Like I have lots of
kind of pre work at stuff ongoing. I did a
lot of coffee because I work late at night. So

(39:26):
it's it's something that is always kind of changing depending
on what my body feels like it needs. But I'm
definitely not like restricting myself, which is I think a
lot of people assume dancers are like no to this
and no to that and only greens. I'm like, no,
I eat it all. Yeah, I eat whatever makes me
feel best, And usually that's just kind of snacking all
the time, but also having like three proper meals throughout
the day.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
That's kind of how it's petrayed then in the dancing world,
isn't it. It's like you just said, like restricted body.
I'm sure there is all that as well, Like I'm
sure it's yeah, there are some of it, but yeah,
that's pretty in two shows a day, that is absolutely insane.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
You must be burning so many calories.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Yeah, I it's so funny because I recently got an
aura ring because oh I have fun, Like I yes,
I love it.

Speaker 7 (40:07):
I'm upset.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
Really it tells me that I sleep like horribly. That's
the only thing that's.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
So far honestly me too. It's like watch your bedtime.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I'm like, oh, yeah, you're having dinner at three am,
so literally really bad.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
Literally, it's so funny. But I also found that obviously
counts calories and activity and stuff. So during one of
my rehearsals a few weeks ago, I was like, you
know what, I'm gonna wear my Aura ring and I
put a band aid over it because we're not on
that to wear jewelry on stage.

Speaker 7 (40:33):
And I just had a band aid around this ring.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
And I wore it through one of my like dress rehearsals,
which is a rehearsal where we do the whole run
of the show full out as if we were to
do it with an audience and we just have like
our bosses watching to like correct things and make things
better and whatever. So I wore it and it was insane.
It was like over fifteen hundred calories with a two
show run. So I was impressed. I was like, okay,
but now I'm aware of that, so I'm like, hey,
I gotta eat fifteen hundred calories plus more to like

(40:56):
keep this going.

Speaker 7 (40:57):
So it's wild.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
It's wild.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
I maybe we should start dancing now.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
I can really do for it. I love a bit
of dancing.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Actually, well, you know the Super Bowl, I mean everyone
was doing you know, the Kendam dance, the little two step.
I have nailed that, by the way, I've been doing
that is that.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
It's so funny.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
I also feel like that song has been in our
heads since totally.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
I mean swag, it's a swag dance for somebody who
can't dance. It's it's an easy way to get into
it before I get my back foot is Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
So with all of that that you just mentioned, you
also have a company.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Yes, I do, not.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
Ready for.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
And she can't see at five am, You're like, what
can I do to myself?

Speaker 4 (41:46):
People more busy, let's go.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
And there's like so many layers on top of it
as well, because I started this company is called Ready
Freddy with one of my best friends living in Paris,
and she was also dancing with me in the show
and she recently just finish dancing and doing the show.
And she's from Australia, move back to Australia to be
with her long term partner and all the things.

Speaker 7 (42:06):
So we actually run a.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Business long distance. At first, I was like, Okay, this
is going to be kind of difficult because we're gonna
be on opposite time zones and it's gonna be very
weird to get used to this, like not being able
to go to a coffee shop and sit down and
work on it together. But it's actually been the opposite
because she's sleeping when I'm up, and then when I'm sleeping,
she's up, So like somebody is always on the clock
working all the time, and I when she does her
tasks for the day, I just finish off her list

(42:28):
of tasks, start some new ones, and then she finishes
off mine. And it's just like a rotation that we
just keep the ball running and things are moving at
double the pace now because somebody is always on their computer,
which is amazing. But yeah, basically it's called Ready Freddy
and it's like a cozy onesie company and the purpose
of it is to put it on to replace your
bathrobe while getting ready in the morning or getting ready
for a show, performance or whatever. Our target audience has

(42:51):
become dancers naturally, because as two dancers, we were wearing
this backstage religiously. The cast at Mulin Rouge all wears
them and it's been super handy because yeah, but it's
honestly been such an amazing addition because they we put
them on and we're able to like stretch and move
in them. It's very functionable, like on like a robe
when you put a robot. Obviously it's keeping you warm, Wally,
you're getting ready, but then you can't if you go

(43:11):
and do the splits with your robot, like obviously you're
gonna need some shorts on underneath that, or put.

Speaker 8 (43:16):
It exactly exactly, but ours is kind of like a
onesie with pants built in straps, like over the shoulders,
so you also don't have to put it over your
head and ruin your makeup and hair when you're finished.

Speaker 6 (43:27):
So it's become super handy for us, and naturally I
grab it and then use it actually every single night
when I'm at work and then when I get home.
It's also something I wear before I put my pajamas
on in the morning, while I'm getting ready, before I
go out to have a day in Paris.

Speaker 7 (43:42):
I put it on.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
So it's something I naturally gravitate towards using, and I
just knew would be something that the general population would
also like as well. So we decided to launch Ready
Freddy a year and a half ago and it's been
going great ever since.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
They kind of like comfy like dungarees. Do you guys
cool them? Dungan? Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Yeah, I was like kind of I don't know, I
don't two straps, it's like and then this and then that.
So it's like this and then that. It's like like
you usually get them in denim.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
It's like what overall?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yes, Oh, it's kind of like that, but you can
have to make sures, right, Okay, call over cool Dungries, Yeahgrees, what.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Do you use Sally Dunkeries or overall?

Speaker 6 (44:26):
No, we say overalls, but Georgia and my business partner
says dungries.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, English, and show we got it right.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Okay, we say, right, Dungrees.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
So how did you figure out the manufacturing part of this?
That's always the most interesting thing to me when because
I always sit down with my friends and say, oh,
we should start a company about this. But then once
you get to the part of actually having to source
all the things that make.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
The company that, I'm like, I'm out, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 6 (44:57):
It's that was definitely tricky. It took us like a
year from the idea to get it actually on a
website like and become available. Because Georgia, my business partner,
and we don't, like we didn't go to school for business.
We have no idea how to do any of this.
Where do you get the manufacturer, how do you like
handle people's money, who's doing the customer service, how do

(45:18):
you ship it out?

Speaker 4 (45:19):
How?

Speaker 6 (45:19):
Like there's so many questions that were unknown for us.
So we just basically decided to teach ourselves, and weirdly enough,
we use TikTok for all of it.

Speaker 7 (45:28):
Like I was going to.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Go to like find articles about it and blogs and
other people, and it was just it was almost too
much at once, and I was like, look, I can't
sit here and read a textbook on I don't know
taxes for a small business, Like I need somebody to
just like you, film a minute long video as simple
as possible and just explain to me the basics. And
I found that that was all on TikTok. So we
literally both of us taught ourselves how to run our
business based off of other TikTok videos, and like I said,

(45:52):
it took us like a year to basically put all
the pieces together because the product is quite simple, Like
it's literally a one size garment that we have now
three sizes, but like at the time it was only
one size, three colors, same fabric, and it doesn't have
to be fitted it's oversized supposed to be comfy. So
it was very basic in a sense that we made
the measurements ourselves, and then we also figured out each

(46:14):
other's skill sets right away. We were like, Okay, George
is very into like searching things and digging and finding
like the contact and then calling them and then like
doing all the dirty work. And I just couldn't even
process doing that, so I just sat back watched some
more TikTok videos on like how to do websites, and
then I would start to do more of the creative
side of things or what the customer would see, I guess,
and then Georgie would do more the logistics. We basically
dug on Google for a manufacturer, which took ages, and

(46:37):
it was probably the thing that took the longest, and
we went through quite a few manufacturers and quite a
few locations before we found ours. Basically, to find the
perfect one, we did tons of sampling, so many samples
came back so bad and they were so expensive, and
we were like, this is awful. But it took so
many failed attempts before we actually got it correct, which
was obviously interesting for us because it was a part

(46:59):
of the process. But once we finally found the one,
we were like, okay, now let's try let's get some
new size is going, let's trial those as well, and
we basically just put money in ourselves and said, okay,
let's just give this a shot. And at the same time, luckily,
my Instagram had kind of taken off, so I was like, Okay,
I'm going to use my Instagram very naturally to just

(47:19):
promote something that I naturally use on the daily that
I think other people would use and love, especially dancers,
And it just kind of blew up from there and
then we just, again, like I said, played off of
who was better at what and who preferred doing what
tasks between Georgia and I. And the biggest piece of
advice I would say is having a business partner, because
then you're able to divide up the tasks and be like, look,

(47:39):
well I do the website today, you're going to do
the new measurement chart, or are like, well I talked
to the accountant today, You're going to search this on
TikTok and learn about it. Like it was so nice
to be able to bounce that off of each other,
but it definitely took some work, but I think at
the end of the day, because we both knew that
it would be such a successful product if it actually
worked and we actually figured it out. That was kind
of our motivation and driving force to get it off

(48:00):
the ground and running. Hence why we really tried to
follow up with all these bad samples to finally find
the good one.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
TikTok's an amazing place.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I was just thinking, Mel and I are our faces
just completely our mouths dropped open when you said TikTok.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
That's how you can tell that we're millennials.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
We would never pay Kira, we would never think just
research how to start a business on TikTok.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
We're cool millennials. We're cool millennials.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Well, yeah, which is why Ally's on the show, because
we're recruiting cool people to teach us things exactly.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (48:31):
I'm on the CUS, but I'm on the gus.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
I actually use TikTok a lot for like learning things.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Oh yeah, have you never gone on just like google
stuff on TikTok and how to do stuff?

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Me?

Speaker 5 (48:40):
Yeah, no, I just watched dog videos on TikTok. I
got to get more to it.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
My New Year's resolution was post war on TikTok and
it's March, so it's not going well.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
How many posts have you done?

Speaker 6 (48:54):
Zero nine months?

Speaker 5 (49:00):
So we'll see. So you mentioned how your Instagram is
blown up.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
I found you on Instagram completely naturally, all of a sudden,
just one day, this Mulan rouge girl was in my
feed constantly. There was a while there where just I
was probably I was engaging with the content because I
love the content, but so then you see it more
and more.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
But what was what was the thing that kind of
changed or when did you notice that this was really
exploding for you?

Speaker 6 (49:35):
After I moved to Paris, that's kind of when TikTok
started really becoming a thing. I would say it was
obviously huge during the pandemic, people were doing all the
dance trendy videos and stuff. But when I moved to Paris,
that's kind of when I think the talking videos really
took off. And I wasn't on TikTok during the pandemic.
I was like, I don't need another app to scroll on.
I don't want to do that. I wasn't doing content
back then, so I was like, you know what, let's

(49:56):
just stay off of that app. And then when I
realized that people were making tick talks about their daily
life and like their jobs that were really unique and stuff.
I was hearing about it through friends that were like
watching tiktoks and like getting obsessed with certain creators. I
was like, wait, maybe I'm actually kind of interested to
like use it for like learning things as opposed to
trending dances and stuff. So I ended up downloading the
app in like twenty twenty one, and this is right

(50:18):
after I'd moved to Paris, and I was watching videos
on like day in the life of like a garbage man,
literally just like things that I would never come across
on Instagram nor want to search or whatever. And it
was just like the most random careers and random things
people were doing. But I was so intrigued, like the
way people were editing the videos, the way they just
had like personalities that just like captured your attention, and
then I just kind of kind of was thinking. I

(50:38):
was like, honestly, maybe I could go. And the main
thing that I was like, Okay, wait, maybe this would
be something that people would watch was because of the
timing of my daily life, like my jobs, like I
start work at nine pm, whereas like the majority of
people are like getting into bed at nine pm. So
I was like, hey, maybe that can be like my
my point that I I don't know, put out there
first and then like maybe it'll just well. And I

(51:00):
also just wanted to trial like editing a video and
like piecing something together. So I just like made a
day in the life one night of me going into work.
Mind you, I was very new at Mulan Rouge. I'm
sure the other girls that I worked with were like,
what is this girl posting? And I posted this daily blog.
I posted this daily blog as like a newbie, and
I woke up the next morning I had three point
two million views, and I was like what did I

(51:22):
just do?

Speaker 7 (51:23):
And I was like, oh oh.

Speaker 6 (51:25):
But also at the same time, I'm like, wait a minute,
maybe I can roll with this. So then I was
like that video took me like no effort at all,
because I was just filming what I was like going
in to do at Mulan every night. And then when
I got home, I sat on my couch, which I
do anyways, and I just edited as a post to
scroll and posted it. It was super eezy. It didn't take
like days like a YouTube video would or anything like that.

(51:48):
So then I was like, Okay, maybe i'll like talk
about the wigs we wear, or like the costumes we wear,
or I don't know, maybe something about like me and
my best friend being both Canadian and the only two
Canadians in the show or whatever. It maybe just something unique.
And then people started it and I was like, Okay,
this is interesting. So that was on TikTok to start,
and then I ended up through that. I gained about
one hundred k followers within a few months, and I

(52:09):
was like, this is crazy because people were interested. It
was wasn't too much work for me, and I really
enjoyed it. That was like the main thing. And then
I got to this point where I really didn't care
what people were saying or thinking because I was like, hey,
it's something creative, it's something outside of work that I'm like,
it's kind of like a hobby in a sense that
I was treating it as and from my TikTok platform growing,
my current manager saw my content and she was like, hey,

(52:29):
I would love to manage you. And at the time
I was like manage me, what do.

Speaker 7 (52:33):
You I mean?

Speaker 6 (52:35):
Ready to manage girl? And I was like it takes
me an hour. It's nothing to manage. But she was like,
you could be making money from this, and I was like, okay,
say less. So then we got chatting she she was
basically like, why are you not putting all of these
on Instagram as well? And I was like true. So
then I started posting all the tiktoks I had spent
the past few months making and posting on Instagram, and

(52:55):
then my Instagram started blowing up and I was like,
this is crazy, Like it was just it was it
something that like I wasn't planning on it happening. I
also wasn't like out there to get the views. I
was literally just doing it because I was like, hey,
I have time because I work. It nice as your life, yeah,
And I was just like and it's my life, it's natural,
and it was I think it was interesting. So anyways,
that's just kind of how the ball started to get rolling,

(53:16):
and then from there I just kind of kept it
up and now it's like it's a full second job
for me. I still really enjoy it. If like I
want to film, I film. If I don't want to film,
I don't. It's nothing that I like put too much
pressure on. But I think that's also nice because I
think it comes through some of my videos. It makes
it a little bit more natural. You can like see
when I have energy, I'm not always like forcing myself
to get on camera and post something every day. Like

(53:38):
I'm just doing it as I want and when I
feel good to do it, and I think it's coming
through in the videos in a really good way. So
it's so crazy. It just kind of came to be.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
I mean, I would say that your life is pretty
interesting Meal on Roache Dancer, so that's probably why it
interested in what you actually have to do day and
day out. I know you just said, then you find
it quite like you just kind of rolling with it naturally,
Like how do you keep producing new creative content that
people are going to be drawn to?

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Do you just think about it?

Speaker 7 (54:02):
And that'd be cool, honestly, yes.

Speaker 6 (54:04):
And I have like a notes section in my phone
where I literally just like if I'm walking in the
streets of Paris and I'm like, wait, that's so interesting.
People went like there's no stop signs in Paris, And
I made a video on TikTok a few months ago
about like how there's no stop signs in Paris, and
people were like, that is so interesting, like it's can
be the most basic thing, and I'm like, yeah, so
it's like it started with like obviously like daily life

(54:25):
being a mule each dancer and such, but also I've
like slowly tapped into the whole like, Okay, now I
own a business, I can talk about that because I
feel like a lot of people that are aspiring to
start a business just don't know where to start. May
click on that. Also, I live in Paris, which is
like a city everybody dreams of visiting one day. So
the more little Paris facts I can throw in there,
that also interests a whole other target audience. And it's
just it's so interesting how like one thing kind of

(54:47):
just flows into the next, which flows into the next,
and I just kind of think about what content I
like to watch, or like if I'm scrolling and I
see a video and somebody's talking about, like I don't know,
their shower, like their skincare routine or whatever, and then
they talk about certain products and why it helps, and
maybe I'm like, Okay, maybe i's just talk about my
skin carotein because I'm wearing stage makeup every day yet
like maintain my skin in a way that I am

(55:08):
happy with it, Like whatever it may be, I just
I try to play off of like using inspiration from
other people's videos, but also just like thinking about what
I like watching myself and then just kind of recreating that.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
So with it dancing, well, it takes more of a
toll because you're just talking about skincare. So is it
more your skin or your hair? Which what would you
say has more of a toll?

Speaker 6 (55:24):
Honestly, I feel like it's different for everybody, but honestly,
for me, it actually might be my hair really yeah,
which is interesting because I feel like I've gotten my
makeup routine down pat and my skincare routine downpat to
like match that and like make sure it stays good.
My hair, on the other hand, I have very fine hair,
but I have a lot of it, so I just
f and it's short, so like every time I'm putting

(55:45):
it up, I'm needing to like slick it so that
like it doesn't move. Of course, but then with our show,
we wear a lot of like hair pieces and hats
and head pieces, so like I'm constantly like moving all
the flyways around and like scraping my scalp with like
a clip ofort or whatever, and it's tugging on parts
of your hair that aren't usually supposed to be tight.
So yeah, I would say definitely, like hair is the

(56:06):
one that I'm like, Okay, it's not the healthiest, but
I'm also like, what can you do? It's so funny
because it's like something something our boss like at the
show always says like, if you want nice hair, you
can go work somewhere else kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
You can be a dentist.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
Literally, she's like, go find another career if you want
nice hair. So it's just kind of something I have
to put up with. And that's why it's in a high,
a messy high bun E.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
What about the toll on your body. I know that you're
injured right now.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
Yeah, it's definitely something you have to get used to
for sure. And it's the main thing is like fatigue,
of course, because we're dancing for so many hours at
night and it's like consistent, like you don't have a
day off every other day. We don't do three in
a row and then have three days off, Like we
literally have one day to recover after six, so it's
definitely finding the balance between work in life. Before I
started at Mulon Rouge, I was like a gym goer,

(56:52):
like every morning at the gym, and I wasn't there
to like lose weight or do anything. I was literally
just there to feel good and like move my body
and like obviously strengthen whatever I needed to. But moving
to Paris, I was like, Okay, I actually do not
physically have the energy to go to the gym during
the day, go home, cook, eat, nap, do all my
things like ready Freddy wise content, then go to the show, dance,
be at work for seven hours, then get home at

(57:13):
two am, cook dinner again, and like it's way too much.
I was like I cannot be doing that. And also
the neighborhood I live in is like it's a mountain.
It's called montmart and it's like a legitimate mountain, and
I live at the very top of it, and there's
no transit to get up to the top of the mountain,
so like I'm climbing a mountain every time I leave
my house. It's like a whole thing. So I'm like,
I do not have one ounce of energy extra in

(57:34):
my day to be doing any of this. So I
was basically just like, I need to make sure that
I'm staying active during the day and walking around Paris
and doing my thing and sitting at cafes just to
reserve my energy for shows at night. But beyond that,
it's definitely like injury prevention is a huge thing, Like
because we're dancing so much, it's super easy to get
injured if you don't watch out and warm up your
body properly every night. So we definitely all have like

(57:55):
our own warm up routine every night. Whenever we have rehearsals,
we do like a proper like bar extra size and
like dance class before we actually start doing like the
rehearsal stuff and like lifts just to avoid somebody doing
something like tweaking a muscle or doing something that they
usually wouldn't be doing. But yeah, it's definitely it's definitely
a huge thing in the dance world.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
When you said bar, then my head immediately went to
pub which now I know it is not true.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
I know, like a physical long cylindrical when my.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Brain goes yes, I know you haven't got much time
to kind of have off, but like obviously I'm from Britain,
so I'm just curious, have you've been.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
It was trouble around Europe a little bit.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
That is one thing.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
That's one thing I've been really trying to do. I
we have like a proper weekend every month, so we
have like one extra day that we can like piggyback
onto our day off. So when luxury ruxery, whenever I
have that extra day, I try to use it for travel.
I go to London very often because the Eurostar is
the easiest thing to compare us. It's also so nice

(58:57):
to just have like two minutes of like in speaking people,
the food, the shops, like everything we do. You speak
French getting there, I mean like enough to get by
on the daily basis, but not like fluent fluent. But yeah,
it's it's definitely something that like travels huge and I
love the South of France. I've gone to Italy a
bunch of my fiance so it's definitely something that I'm

(59:18):
like wanting to keep up because it's crazy how easy
it is from anywhere in Europe VERSUS Canada.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Is so much easier.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
It's like the one thing I missed living in America
is like how cheap and EASi is to travel, like
like we would go to like Dublin for like literally
I think we used to get there on a Wednesday.
It was cheaper for us to get flight to Dublin
for the day than it was to get a taxi
into town. It was like ten bucksy. How is the
Eurostar by the way, I've actually never been on it.

Speaker 7 (59:41):
Oh, it's so good.

Speaker 6 (59:43):
It's like, I honestly take the Eurostar more than I
take the Metro in Paris, to be honest with you,
because it's it's hours two hours.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Yeah, okay, it's straight st Pancras.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Yeah, straight straight into like central London, and then you're there,
and it's honestly like you just show up with the
translation like forty five minutes before your train. It's nothing
like taxing to the airport and checking a bag and
like doing all the Yeah, so easy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
It's great. I took it this summer, not topeak it
about me, but I was too in Paris this summer.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Were in Paris for the Olympics, and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
After the Olympics, my family and I took the Eurostar
to London and then we also went to Amsterdam afters
and we did like a whole thing. But speaking of
the Olympics, Ali, I know that you got to do.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Something very very cool this summer with the Olympics. Yea,
and yeah we want to hear about that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
We were dancing in the opening ceremonies, which was amazing.
We did a French cancn which was great. And it
was honestly like, when I moved to Paris, I was like,
the summer Olympics are coming to Paris in twenty twenty four,
Like I must be there, so like it was honestly
on my radar for years leading up to it, and
it was so cool. We had like custom dresses made

(01:00:52):
they want. They were like insisted hot pinks. We had
like a hot pink stage. We had new boots. It
was like it was such a like special thing amongst
us at MULA to be like, Okay, we're going to
be doing this, but also like there's so much more
that's going into it than I think people will realize.

Speaker 7 (01:01:05):
So it was cool.

Speaker 6 (01:01:06):
It was a really cool month of just like obviously
one experiencing the fact that I was living in a
host city, which was crazy, but then also like being
a part of like the day that it kicked off,
I was like I get to be a part of this,
which was so cool, and especially as a dancer, like
growing up, I was like I always thought about this
was so random, But I was like, it sucks that
I'm doing a sport that like isn't in the Olympics

(01:01:26):
like all other sports. If I get to like yeah
and enough of like at an advanced or professional level,
like I could at least like maybe give it a
shot to make some sort of Olympic team and like
have that in my future. But I was like, dance
is not in that at all. And then when they
announced that break dancing was a part of the games,
did you think about it? It was like, I know, I
was like, not me, but I'm like, how crazy is
that they added it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
So that girl you thought I could probably beat her?

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
Yeah, but you know, yeah, yeah that was wild. That
was wild.

Speaker 6 (01:01:57):
But it was cool to be a part of it,
especially as a dancer. And then the fact but break
dancing was happening, I got to go watch it live,
which was so cool and oh cool, Yeah it was.
It was such a cool experience. It was so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
What about the the day of the opening ceremony it
was pouring rain? What was that like for you guys.

Speaker 7 (01:02:13):
Uh, yeah, that's a whole story of its own.

Speaker 6 (01:02:15):
I feel it's something that I don't think anybody really considered,
especially with like the surface of the stage. I don't
know if you've you'd seen the footage or whatnot, but
it's it was super slippery, and we had like obviously
prepped and rehearsed and whatever else, so it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Didn't really go it's on the seen, it was on
the right.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
It was on the edge of the river.

Speaker 7 (01:02:32):
On the river, yes, yes, which is terrifying, which is.

Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
Terrifying, but because that we needed to practice on the
stage multiple times to make sure we could do everything,
and everybody felt safe and like it was all good.
But then the second we stepped on the stage before
the live taping turned us to go it torrential downpourd
So we were like high can can kicking in the rain.
We had like partner tricks and lifts, and it was
a little chaotic and a little bit more chaotic than

(01:02:55):
we could have anticipated because we didn't really account for rain,
which is definitely we probably should have done looking back,
But overall, I was like, after the performance, I was like,
you know what, we did our best with the circumstances
and like at the end of the day, it was
something that I'd been looking forward to for years and
I was like, so lucky to be a part of
something like that and to have footage of that like
for years obviously for the rest of my life is
so cool. But yeah, just being able to experience it,

(01:03:18):
like the Canada boat passed us and then our music
started and I was like this is I was like,
it was such a like moment. So it was cool
and it was so cool to do with all my
friends of course, and the fact that everybody was involved
in it was amazing. So definitely like highlight of my
Paris time for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
That's awesome. Yeah, Olympics are fun. I played in Tokyo
but there was no one there because it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Was COVID no way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Yeah, well I finished I think I finished seventieth and
there was only sixty two plays in the field, so
didn't have my first week.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
I just basically just showed up.

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
But you know, it was here and there, but Olympics,
which is exactly something that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
We can't say Ali d Olympics.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
I've reported on an Olympics.

Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
So there we go, exactly, there we go.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
So I've just got the Olympic connection.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I have my I have my my my Eiffel Tower
from from Paris from the summer, and then.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Also my Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
It's not to scale credential, it's not to scale to
let you know, it will be a little dramatic if
I had it to scale and then my my Olympics
credential in here.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
So that's how I know, like my biggest from the
work life these days.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
I mean, you basically compete in the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
I would say, I think we should all get matching
Olympic tattoos.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
At this point.

Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
Do you have an Olympic tattoo?

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
I do, but I got it in color and you
can't really see the yellow. It's like really discreete here.
And I mean it basically just symbolizes how I played. Really,
I didn't deserve all six rings. I just deserve because
I so shit. I was just enjoying the moment too much.
I was enjoying myself too much in the moment.

Speaker 7 (01:04:51):
But you did it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
I thank you. I participated.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yes, yeah, well I would probably get laughed out of
any room if I got tattoo. But I will still
hold on to my credential here and it's super proud.
Last thing before we let you go, if anyone's listening
that is social media curious, whether it's for themselves or
for marketing their business or anything like that, Because you've

(01:05:18):
cracked this really interesting, unique thing, both for yourself and
for your business. Is there any like best practice, advice,
something that you really think that people should do as
they embark on that sort of journey.

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
Yeah, that's a good question. I feel like, honestly, the
first thing that comes to my mind is personality. Like
it's like kind of what I said at the beginning
of the of the podcast. The one thing that caught
my eye was like the day in the Life of
a garbage Man, and I was like, it might actually
be one of the most, like the least interesting things
on the Internet, But the way that he was telling
the story and like the way he was talking I
guess to the camera made it so interesting. And I

(01:05:51):
feel like that's kind of where content is leading to,
Like people don't care what they're watching, they just want
to be entertained by the person that's chatting. So I
honestly think that's also why people got so intrigued with
Obviously moul on Ridge is very unique and like the
things I do say are like okay, holy like how
is she up until three am? Every morning? But it's
also i think, like the way I'm saying it just
comes out very natural. I just try to have a
conversation with my phone, and it's not anything that's like

(01:06:13):
too scripted or too set up. It's just like what
I'm thinking in the moment. I'm just trying to show
my personality through it. I want like people to feel
like they're on FaceTime with me sometimes when they're watching
the videos, because I want it to just feel like,
I don't know, like natural, I think is the biggest word.
So I think that's also where people struggle is because
they want to get into content, but they're like forcing it,
and I'm like, if it's not the time and not
the place, it's kind of like anything, and if it

(01:06:35):
doesn't come natural to you, it's going to be so
much more work. So I don't know, I would just say, like,
pretend you're having a conversation on FaceTime, And I think
that's kind of how I've cracked the code to like
also being comfortable in front of the camera. I don't
think of it as though I'm recording myself for millions
of people to see. I feel like I'm just chatting
into the phone for something that I could look back
on myself or I don't know, it's just natural. Yeah, yeah,

(01:06:56):
that's great. That's awesome advice for I think Melan me too.
As we embark literally.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Taking notes, I'm taking.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Watch out yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
I'm coming for you.

Speaker 7 (01:07:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
We want to see you on a golf course, Sally,
soon too. Yeah, once your rest is better. Well, we
want to see you. Need to do a video on
your golf journey. Okay, okay, you can hold me to it.
It'll be on my stories in six months.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Okay, good, Yeah, you should do like a journey trying
to get down to single figures or something.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
You should.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
I would be so, I would like I would love
to watch that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Okay, you would have that Lido and me wrapped audience.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
Oh yeah, you know what if I if I just
throw some personality into it, we can we can make
something work.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Oh, you can definitely make it work. Before you know,
you'll be getting invites to like masters and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
You'll be killing it.

Speaker 7 (01:07:46):
It's a new new bucket list thing for me.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
Seriously, Okay, the golf golf people, listen up. If Allie's
out there, she's ready to go. All right, Well anything else?

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
I mean, I did have one question written down, which
is how the fuck you dance in them hills?

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
But oh yeah, let's how the fuck do you dance
them hills?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I kind of fucking walk in heels and you'll galla
dancing around? Yes, just please tell me how you do it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Please.

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
It's so funny because Okay, one, you don't grow up
dancing and heels. Nobody does, I don't think, unless you're
like a ballroom dancer or anything. But like I had
never like properly danced in a heel until I got
to Mulan and well for the auditions and stuff, like
you wear your own but like it's not mind you,
it's not a stiletto. We're talking like two inches, not six.
But even then, like it does require a lot of

(01:08:35):
extra technique and like extra I don't know how, like focus,
I guess you could say, because that it just makes
it that much easier to roll your ankle. So when
you are training to dance in a heel, the biggest
thing is like ankle strength. That being said, majority of
injuries are actually ankle and foot related because of the
heels themselves. It's not even the dance ability. It's literally
just the fact that you're in heels for too long.

(01:08:57):
But weirdly, to be honest with you, it's It's also
something unique that Mulin Rouge does is when you start,
you get given obviously shoes for the show, and each
routine you do has a different shoe. It's kind of
like it's part of your dance costume. Your costume changes,
your shoes change, So we have like ten pairs of
shoes for each role you do. And when you get
the shoes, you're actually not given brand new ones. You're

(01:09:18):
given ones that are from another dancer that's like moved
on with their life. And isn't that Mulan reagion anymore?
Literally for the sole reason because they're already broken in,
so like you don't have to break in the shoe yourself,
and because of that, like you don't get as many
blisters the shoe is already It's actually, yeah, it's actually
like a really clever thing on their part because yeah,
you avoid so many like literally blisters is the biggest thing,

(01:09:41):
but also because it's more broken in the shoe is
a little bit softer, it's a little bit more like
you can use it a little bit better, whereas like
if you get this brand new shoe, it's like a
stiff running shoe. It's like, hey, you have to break
them in a little bit for them before you run
the marathon, you know what I mean. So it definitely
takes time, but because you're given an old pair of shoes,
it's definitely easier to adapt to it because the shoe
has already been worn. That helps for us specifically. I
think it's different for every show and every technique, like

(01:10:03):
every style of dance. But yeah, you just kind of
get used to it, and now it's weird because like
when I go to do like, for instance, if I
go to practice the show and I'm in my running shoes,
like in the studio or something, I naturally go up
on my tiptoes because I know, like the move is
done on our toes, not on a flat foot. So
it just it weirdly like becomes second nature and you
don't really think about it. But for the first few months,
it definitely takes a toll on like your.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Archies and Achilles, like you said, I can't even imagine.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
I can't imaginate.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Wearing a golf shoe for the first time without having
broken it in and playing eight peoples in it or something.
I can't imagine then having.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
To wear heels and be cute stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:10:40):
Yeah, it's a whole animal of its.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Own, crazy crazy all right, Ali, we loved this.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
This was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I feel like I learned so much about like your
crazy life and stuff. So we really appreciate the time.
We hope everybody thank you listening loved it as well.

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
Yeah, thank you, Alie. I learned a lot today.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
So that's what so always want to want to do
when Kira introduced me to her guests and something that
I'm not quite used to. So yeah, thank you ever
so much. You're awesome and yeah, I'm going to follow
you on your socials now. Want to know what you
do in the day of a life.

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
We need to come see you in the show.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Yes, we definitely need to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
Go Alie signs in the in the audience.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Thanks for listening to Quiet Please We'll be back next
week with more golf apps, and we want to hear
from you. Leave us a review in Apple podcasts and
tell us what you want to talk about. It just
might be the topic of our next show. Quiet Please
is hosted by Mel Reed and Kira Dixon. Our executive
producer is Jesse Katz. Our supervising producer is Grace Fuse.

(01:11:41):
Our producer is Zoe Dankler.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
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