Cowboy Logic | Show Date: March 1, 2025

Cowboy Logic  |  Show Date:  March 1, 2025  -  Guests;  Tom Renz and J6er Ryan Nichols

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
The doll.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
And and look at her, and.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
In and.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
And and welcome to own one on everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
May I say one thing right now.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I bumped her beaver.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
It's not what I was going to say. What I
was going to say is you notice the lights.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
The lights are on and the cockroaches are scattering, and
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
I just love it.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
They are scattering. But we need to address something very
seriously here. We're going to take very little time to
do this, ladies and gentlemen. We're recording this show on
February twenty second. It will air the following week, the
first and the second of March. Seapack is going on

(01:50):
right now, and we have remained quiet on social media
about what's been taking place at Seapack with regard to
certain Jay six ers, and we're still going to remain
silent on that. We don't know any of the facts,
and neither does anybody that's out on social media starting

(02:14):
rants about it. Listen, this could be a major injustice
to Jake Lang and anybody else that was not allowed
in there. The flip side of that coin that we
don't know is there could be a reason we don't know,
So we're going to keep our mouth shut and we're

(02:34):
gonna we're gonna utilize the Dan Bongino method of sitting
and keeping your mouth shut about something for seventy two
to ninety six to whatever hours are needed until facts
can come out. What I can say is that the
entire thing has been a real downer to have to watch. Well.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
It hurts that Jan sixers, and there were plenty of
Jan sixers there.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Now, SEAPAC is a private.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
Organization, so they have the right to put anybody they
want in there or not, and there were plenty of
Jan sixers there as well, and they got plenty of exposure,
which we were thankful for and that's the main thing
we want is to get exposure for it.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
But there were certain people, Jake being the most prominent obviously,
that was not given the opportunity to attend, and the
reason for that we don't know. We don't know, but
if it was truly an injustice to Jake, we hope
that that's corrected. But we don't know what's going on

(03:42):
with it, and so we're taking the position of we're
not going to say anything, we're not going to speculate
on anything, and we're certainly not going to start the
storm that's been going on on social media.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
About it now and people want to ask about it,
but you know, unfortunately we weren't there. So you know,
we just know that we want to try to give
voice many of the Sixers as we can, including Jeremy
Brown right now, who this point is still incarcerated over
thirty days after getting a pardon.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
So this is just and.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
There's a lot of things many people don't know about
that kind.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Of stuff too, right, and that's the real focus.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
We're just keeping our mouth shut until we have facts,
and even then we may not say anything.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
All I want to say is every day is like
Christmas when it comes to the Trump administration.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
I mean, it's this just can't get this.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
We will talk.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
About hashtag FAFO can't be used enough. Now, this was
bizarre because Trump, Hey, what's that mean, Donna? I damn
and find out.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, we'll do that later, but a little and find out. Okay.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
So Brian Kemp, our governor here in Georgia, actually introduced
Trump's which kind of raised a lot of eyebrows. But
Trump did address the governors of the country.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
This is rich.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
They did cut away to this during seapac Trump talking
to no men in women's sports. He was addressing again
these group of governors. So Maine's governor says, well, she's
not going to comply, and Trump, well, he was just
playing Trump.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
But I understand Maine is the Maine here, the governor
of Maine. Are you not going to comply with it? Well,
we are the federal law.

Speaker 8 (05:34):
Well you better do it.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
You better do it because you're not going to get
any federal funding at all if you don't. And by
the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal orthough
I did very well there, your population doesn't want men
playing in women's sports. So you better you better comply
because otherwise you're not getting any any federal funding.

Speaker 9 (05:52):
Every state.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
Good, I'll see you, and could I look forward to that.
That should be a really easy one.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Look at her. Janet Mills.

Speaker 10 (05:59):
Janet Mills, Meanwhile, do you think there should be some
back team that might be distributed after that?

Speaker 6 (06:04):
They've they've already opened an investigation just a few hours later, intear,
so we'll see how long that lasts. Janet Meanwhile, Stephen
Miller gets up there, and Stephen Miller basically gives a
civics lesson to the mainstream media check this out.

Speaker 11 (06:22):
It is true that many of the people in this
room for four years failed to cover the fact that
Joe Biden was mentally incompetent and was not running the country.
It is also true that many people in this room
who have used this talking point that Elon is not elected,
fail to understand how government works. So I'm glad for

(06:42):
the opportunity for a brief civics lesson. A president is
elected by the whole American people. He's the only official
in the entire government that is elected by the entire nation. Right,
judges are appointed, Members of Congress are elected at the
district or state level, just one man. And the Constitution,
Article two has clause known as the vesting clause, and
it says the executive power shall be vested in a

(07:04):
president singular. The whole will of democracy is imbued into
the elected president. That president then appoints staff to then
impose that democratic will onto the government. The threat to democracy, indeed,
the existential threat to democracy, is the unelected bureaucracy of

(07:24):
lifetime tenured civil servants who believe the answer to no one,
who believe they can do whatever they want without consequence,
who believe they can set their own agenda no matter
what Americans vote for. So Americans vote for radical FBI reform,
and FBI agents say they don't want to change. Or
Americans vote for radical reformat or energy policies, but EPA
bureaucrats say they don't want to change. Or Americans vote

(07:47):
to end DEI racist DEI policies, and lawyers of the
Department of Justice say they don't want to change. What
President Trump is doing is he is removing federal bureaucrats
who are defying democracy by failing to implement his lawful orders,
which are the will of the whole American people.

Speaker 10 (08:10):
Boom boom, Mike's home and it's back to Daddy's.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
He's not a happy camper.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
I love the Babylon b Stephen Miller uses sock puppets
to explain the Constitution to the White House Press Corps.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
You can't you can't make this stuff up.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
Hey, you know, but I'm telling you it is a
who's who of who they're going to look at now,
with Pam Bondi and Cash Betell in there, this whole list,
and I'm going to highlight a few of them, but
they all need to be highlighted. Bill Barr, John Brennan,
I mean, Rod Rosenstein, Samantha Power, struck stroke, smirk Rushould

(08:47):
we love you. I mean, this is just unbelievable. But
we do need to have a little bit, a little bit.
I like to like a little bit.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
So listen, everybody. There's a guy that you guys need
to go follow and his name is Steve m he's
high an ma An and he's a sports announcer and
MMA announcer. And here's the thing, if you don't like
hearing bad words, then don't go follow him, okay, because
sometimes he'll use a word that we can't say on

(09:14):
the show. We found one that we didn't have to
bleep out anything on. And you guys know that we
do a lot with Puppy Bannon and things like that,
and this might be puppy Bannon when he grows up.

Speaker 12 (09:27):
No, he the dog doing what do you do?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Fast?

Speaker 12 (09:32):
Becoming a fully on the playground. And Billy pays the
ultimate price with an ultimate rto.

Speaker 13 (09:38):
And Billy might have summer teeth, but at his age,
he has nothing to worry about because it may not
be permanent.

Speaker 12 (09:44):
Right here, coming in with that, slip of the RKO
and oooh yeah, Billy ends up eating a moon bye sandwich.

Speaker 9 (09:51):
He he The dog walks off into the sunset like
freaking Cleane's.

Speaker 12 (09:54):
Wood and this kid's like, Dad, why are you still
filming me? And you know we got it to it
a ludicris camp. Get the wave.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
No children, No children were harmed in that Bill.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Was fine despite having the moonpie sandwich of mud. That
was hilarious. I don't know about you guys, but I
find things like that funny. As long as nobody's injured,
I'm okay with it. Hurt, we all get hurt. We
don't want to why, but go find Steve Imman. He's

(10:33):
on all of the social media platforms and YouTube and
you can sit there and waste a whole lot.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
Of time coti his commentary.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
It's hilarious and some of it is, like I said before, worn,
some of it's kind of graphic. You know, you get
people that are actually being shot on some of his stuff.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
But speaking of hilarious, wait till you see what we
got coming up in the next segment from the Postmaster
General or whatever he is now, Well, he's looking for
a job now, is what it is.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
We'll be back with more cowboy logic right after.

Speaker 14 (11:07):
This, Introducing the Unngun, the non lethal self defense platform.

(11:28):
Lightweight and simple to use. It uses an easy to
load five round magazine and is powered by an eight
gram CO two cartridge. Burn A launchers fire a sixty
eight caliber chemical filled projectile using a patented pulpierce technology
where the CO two canister is only punctured on the
first trigger pull, meaning your launcher is always at the ready.
It's capable of incapacitating an attacker for over thirty minutes,

(11:48):
and is accurate and effective at over sixty feet. It
requires no permits, no background checks, and his interstate travel
friendly with Berna. You will be prepared to defend.

Speaker 12 (12:09):
I get up and nothing against me down. You gotta time.

Speaker 13 (12:19):
I see the toms around, and I know, make a chance.
How you feel you got to roll with the bunches
A get to once real.

Speaker 12 (12:39):
I can't just see any standing here. I got my
back against the wreck.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
In the sheet.

Speaker 12 (12:45):
I hain't the worst that you've seen.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I can't just see what I mean?

Speaker 15 (12:53):
Now?

Speaker 13 (12:53):
Might as well hell jump jump, might as well.

Speaker 12 (12:58):
Jump go ahead and show go ahead.

Speaker 13 (13:05):
John who said that maybe how you been, you say

(13:31):
you don't know, You won't know until you.

Speaker 10 (13:35):
Begain Hank van Halen, yep, all right, And that was
at Bill mcclin talk mashups.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Now, I don't think, just from my audio and video experience,
I do not think that was AI. I think what
he did is he took to he got an acapella, uh,
isolated vocal track is what we would call it, and
through the magic of really being good in a studio.
I think that he did these mashups.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
But then you put my picture.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, that was don David Lee Roth.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
Boy, that was another life.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
That was you are just as beautiful. You are more
beautiful today than you were then.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
I was a mere child back then.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
David Lee Roth used to always come to our wn
WFM monthly, well I should say yearly the month of
Rocktober as we called it, at the hard Rock Cafe
in New York City. He was always a regular there
and got to meet him a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
It's kind of cool, but I thought that was pretty cool.
How Bill McClintock mashups. You can find him on YouTube.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
That was Hank Van Halen.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, I don't even know if that's what it was. Called,
but it was Hank Williams Junior and Van Halen, as
you all know with the song I think jump right.
All right, let's get back to business, Donna.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Shall we to point out that there are a lot
of things going around because the deep State isn't dying.
The deep State is fighting back as much as a
can or the blob, as Mike Ben's calls it. Javier
Malay though, is just he's like the Donald Trump of Argentina.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Okay, this guy is.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
A Southern hemisphere.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yes, he is a wrecking ball. He actually gave and
you know the wrecking ball. He actually gave Elon Musk
a chainsaw this past week's which was kind of cool
because that's what Elon is doing essentially, and as we're
going to find out later on, we talked to Tom Wrens.
Elon Musk actually retweeted one of Tom's tweets because the

(15:39):
great lawyer that Tom Wrens is, and again he'll be
coming up right after this. He found that doge is
absolutely legal, and they kept saying it's not. Well, Tom
found out that it's associated essentially with what Barack Obama
did with Obamacare, and therefore it's.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Legal. Deal with it.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
But on the other side of the coin, we got
a problem with Hobby or Bolsonario.

Speaker 12 (16:07):
Being hold on.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
I don't think I have his first name, right, but
Bolsonario being framed and arrested like Trump in Brazil, that's
what they want to do. They want to give him
forty years and bos. And the thing is, the guy
Lula in Brazil was actually in prison. They broke him
out of prison, they let him run. They rigged the elections,

(16:29):
I mean the whole thing. It's it's a mess, and
we really have to keep an eye on that because
the deep state's not giving up, not giving up at all. Okay,
speak of not giving up. This is another epic thing
that happened this week. This guy, Lewis de Joy is
the postmaster.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Jeneral, Oh what joy?

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Yes, he's not very joyful right now. He is actually
stepping down. Take a look at this line of questioning
to miss.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Before you roll this. Before you roll this, luke, what
would you do if this was your child behaving this way? Okay,
I mean those that might do a backhand. I think
this might be appropriate. This guy is a petulant child.
Now roll it, Luke.

Speaker 15 (17:16):
You were greater by the United States people, and they
don't use your service anymore. You bankrupt. You bankrupt this
through your reputation. Only through your reputation, you are responsible
for the fall of postal service, and the lack of
accountability is responsible.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
So it's kind of trying to fix.

Speaker 15 (17:35):
I am trying to fix on your watch with all
the watch the same stuff, with all the AI, with
all the computer systems, you're worse than if I took
author itself. I picked up the mail and delivered it
two miles down the road. That's you. I hope you
got that on camera. This is the response that the

(17:55):
postmaster just gave Congress when he doesn't like what he hears,
literally covered his ears and gave himself the grade of
A And with that, sir, I rest.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
When are we gonna see Lewis Joy flailing around on
the floor in the toy section of Walmart because Mommy
and Daddy said no, you can't have that stretch Armstrong
or the g I Joe with the Kong Fu grip.
So Lewis de Joy flails around like a fish out
of water in the toy department.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
The lefts are just so childish, just like what happened
during seapack with this woman screaming, and this woman has
been there.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
That was at the Capitol, but it was Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
But the thing is, it's they have these Antifa whatever
they call them, princesses that are obviously paid to get
out there and scream and yell. They did it outside
the Goulag when Mickey Whitthoff, Ashley Babbitt's moment and all
the great patriots were out there singing the national anthem
at nine o'clock every night, and eventually, you know, it
gets quite annoying.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
But I'll tell you what I like.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
To do with Lewis to Joy, I'd like to look
in his car or in his house and find out
how many.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Ballots he's gotten that he's hiding.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Well, he's just correct. This stuff was messed up when
I got here. What's your job to fix it too?

Speaker 16 (19:18):
Joy?

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Hey, I want to talk about Pantelpro.

Speaker 10 (19:20):
Very quickly because I have a surprise for Arberna distributor.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Is Pantelpro pa n t lpro dot com Don has
the weapon right there. It is legal in all fifty states,
although in some cities it's not so read the fine
print there. Promo code seventeen seventy six gets you ten
percent off. USA made less lethal protection. It's awesome. No
federal license needed again, legal in all fifty states, and

(19:45):
our distributor is Pantelpro PA n t l L pro
dot Com promo code seventeen seventy six get you ten
percent off. What were you going to say? Well, I
love that gun. By the way, it's so easy to use.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I was actually going to talk about the puppy bann
an update that we've got for this. Yeah, okay, Now,
is there anything you want to touch on that. I'll
give you about a minute if you want to touch
on something, I want some of these names. I'm going
to go puppy banner.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
This is priceless.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
I know I shouldn't show white on cam, shouldn't, Okay,
but this is priceless. I mean, there must be one
hundred names in here that our new do OJ and
our new FBI director and our new everything is going
to look into.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Lloyd Austin, Secretary of Defense under Biden.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
I'm not your father, John Bolton, John Brennan, Eric cmarella.
Remember we couldn't say his name for god knows how
right sip alone former Trump lawyer, James Clapper, James Comy,
Hillary Clinton, Merrick Garland, Eric Holder, Robert Hurk, Cassidy Hutchinson,
Loretta Lynch.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
A minute, go back to hold on a second. We
can't take a very quick minute to do this. Go
back and say.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
That guy's name, Pat Sipolone, and then say that guy's
name James Clapper.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Doesn't it sound like those two guys are some kind
of strange venereal disease.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Oh, clap on, clapp on the Clapper. You know who's
not it?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
She didn't get what I said.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
No, say it again, say last name sip Alone and Clapper.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Don't they sound like two strange venereal diseases? Stop? Do
you get it?

Speaker 13 (21:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:22):
I do, But I'm ignoring yourself.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Rod Rosenstein's another one. Samantha Power, Peter Struck, Jake Sullivan.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I had a stroke one time, and I put sam
on it and it went away within three days.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
Sally Yates and Alexander Vinman. And that's still just part
of it. Mark Millie, Robert Muller. You know he's not
on this list?

Speaker 5 (21:41):
Is Liz Cheney.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I don't know why I don't either, but I do
know that I want to talk about Puppy Bannon before
we run out of time. Hey, we've got a new
Puppy bann an update for you guys. I'm sure Luke's
got it ready. And here's what happens when we try
to vacuum with Puppy Bannon around. He gave up puppy

(22:45):
band and had enough. Hey, listen, many of you are
going to be asking don why are you vacuuming a
hardwood floor?

Speaker 5 (22:52):
Why are you vacuuming a hardwood floor?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Because I'm picking up all the stuffing that puppy Bannon
picks out of his little chew toys, and I end
up having stuffing all over the place. It's everywhere, It's
every place, So we vacuum the hardwood floors. Ladies and gentlemen,
you are watching Cowboy logic and we're going to be
right back.

Speaker 17 (23:26):
Patriots Relief your America first CBD company. We are Christian,
conservative and committed to helping you feel your best. Are
you tired of chronic pain holding you back? It's time
for a change. Experience the remarkable healing properties of CBD,
Expertly designed to alleviate pain and promote internal balance. Patriots

(23:48):
Relief is here for you. Visit our website or call
now use your promo code to unlock exclusive savings Patriots
Relief helping you get out of pain and live life
to the full.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
And welcome back to that why logic everyone.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
I so look forward to having this gentleman on because
it is just a wealth of knowledge. And get your
pencils ready, get your number two pencils ready there because
Tom Wrens, lawyer extraordinaire and general overall badass when it
comes to the legal system, is going to be with
us for the next four segments one hour, folks.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
He is host of the Tom Wrens Show.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
He's an attorney, he's an educator and advocate, a businessman
and a patriot. Of course, he gained international attention for
his work challenging the corruption in the US government. He's
worked relentlessly with America's frontline doctors looking at the COVID problem, vaccines,
vaccine mandates and again, and to me, Tom Wrens is

(25:02):
just the person, the go to person legally for any
of this stuff.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Tomrens dot com.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Your contributions are greatly appreciated as well, because Tom just
really does yeomen's works.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Let's bring him on Luke and to me, Tom Wrens
is like a brother and he hadn't been shaven lately,
so I'm gonna refer to him as Tom Wrens of.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
The Hillpieo Man.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
All right, no, big Tom. Before we get into anything else, brother,
we have reason to celebrate, and that is that your wife,
a cancer fighting ninja, kicked the ass of cancer. And
I want to give you an opportunity to brag about

(25:46):
how strong she was and how hard she fought and
everything that she did to kick the living I can't
say it on the TV show Out of Cancer, but talks.

Speaker 8 (25:58):
There you go, there, you go, go to tell you
I'm very happy. You know, for two years I was
fighting on multiple fronts. You know, I'm fighting cancer at
home and fighting you know, on the freedom side everywhere else.
And I feel like I got both arms back. I
was fighting for ae arm behind my back, you know,
and Annie got diagnosed. And you know, your audience has
contributed his help. They've been so supportive. The prayers and

(26:21):
everything else has been wonderful. So I just want to
thank everybody on Cowboy Logic. Thank you, thank you, thank
you sincerely from the bottom of my heart. When we
started this, I promised my kids, and I don't you know,
I don't think I owe too many people in this
world anything, but I chose to bring my kids into
this world. They're blessing. I owe them something, and so
I promised them that we would do everything we could

(26:42):
to take care of their mom. And we did it.
She had a six percent chance of survival. She now
has no evidence of disease. It was stage four, it
was metastatic. It was a mess, and it was one
hell of a fight. I'll tell you this. She was
a warrior. She fought hard, she did a great job.
We learned so much about cancer. You know, I spent

(27:03):
for my part, you know, she she was fighting it
and I was researching, figuring out what to do this,
that and the other. We worked with every holistic, every doctor,
every every everything all over the place. And I got
to tell you don and Donna, I've never seen a
more corrupt system in my life than the cancer system.
It actually rivals COVID corruption. But we navigated it, we

(27:24):
beat it, and boy, I'm back. I'm ready. I'm really
itching for a fight now because I got, I got,
I got, I'm pent up. You know, I've been sitting
here reading medical journals and figuring out how to deal
with this. This well cancer. I mean, there is no
no worse word for it, but that is what it is,
you know.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Now, And very briefly, i'd love for you to explain
to the viewers some of the traditional and unorthodox methods
that you and your wife used, and specifically she used
to defeat this, to.

Speaker 8 (28:01):
Be storious, to be one under Yeah, this was all her, right.
What I did was I did the research, and I
fought with the doctors because the doctors don't want to
do anything. She did the fight, she beat the cancer, so,
you know, all credit to her and to God on that.
What I did was I did the research and I
did the study, and I, you know, did what I do.

(28:22):
I fight for corruption, I fight corruption, I find crap,
you know. And so what we found out is you've
got to understand, first of all, cancer is something that
they're not trying to cure. No one is trying to
cure cancer. You hear the you know about the Fizer
and the m RNA cancer vaccines. They're not trying to

(28:42):
cure cancer. Those mRNA cancer vaccines, first of all, won't
be vaccines they're going to be m RNA gene therapies
to try and deal with the cancer that they already
caused from m RNA gene therapies. And we can get
into that in a second, but no one wants to
cure it. If you cure it, you lose it. You
lose a billion dollar business.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Right.

Speaker 8 (29:02):
So what they're doing is they focus on treatments and
they aren't even developing new treatments. They look at the
same thing and find new ways to repackage it and
call it a new treatment. And that's mainstream medicine on it.
When you go to your doctor, when you go to
an oncologist, they pull up and they've got a book
and I've read the book. I've looked at the book,
and the book tells them exactly what you do. So,

(29:23):
if you have a stage four metastatic breast cancer triple positive,
you know it's this, it's this, it's this. You start
out and your options are A, B or C, and
then you go go there and after you've completed A
and it hasn't worked, then you go to B, and
then once that's it hasn't worked, you go to C
and they just keep cycling you through this, right, and

(29:44):
it doesn't work, it's not designed to cure you. And
if it does cure you, it's only temporary because you're
going to get a new cancer from the cure. Right.
So you know they're going to push for example, and
I'm not against every and all form of key in
very specific instances or anything else in universally. Right. So,

(30:06):
if you're eighty five years old and you're going to
you've got an inoperable brain tumor and you are guaranteed
to die within three months, and you want to extend
your life a little bit longer so that you can
say goodbye to your grandkids or whatever. If you want
to use radiation on that, that's fine. But radiation, for example,
is one of the worst things I've ever seen on

(30:27):
anyone that's not eighty five within an operable brain tumor.
It's horrible, but they use it everywhere. For example, my
wife's breast cancer. My wife is a forty five year old,
completely healthy woman. She works out, she runs, she's in
great shape, no other health issues. But the first thing
they want to do is they want to include radiation
in her treatment. Well, radiation causes cancer, and the way

(30:52):
that they study cancer. They don't bother They look at
the five year right, did you get rid of your cancer?
And are you good after five years. What they don't
do is they don't look at someone who got the
K radiation at forty five and at fifty five they
have a new type of cancer, right, a new type
of cancer caused by the fact that they radiated their body.
So this is it's horrible. They don't study this properly.

(31:14):
They lie about the science. They don't study the things
they ought to be studying. They set up criteria in
these studies that are designed to elicit certain results. Chemo.
We actually did use some chemo because I didn't know
what to do when we started, right, So when we started,
I'd never studied cancer. I didn't I knew I didn't
like chemo, but I you know, I didn't know what

(31:34):
to do.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
Annie's cancer was extremely aggressive. We had to slow it
down while I was figuring out what to do, so
we used it. It did slow it down, but we
used it in a very limited way. I wish we
wouldn't have had to if I knew now what I
If I knew then what I know now, we wouldn't
have had to. But at the time I didn't know
these things. So we had to use the chemo and

(31:55):
it did work, So you know, I mean I didn't
cure it, and it does put her at risk later
down the road for other issues. So there is a
very big cost to go with that temporary benefit that
didn't create a cure, but you know, it's a thing.
So what we did do though, and what we do
know is there's certain things that you got to look at. Right,

(32:16):
So if they wanted to cure cancer, wouldn't you start
by asking why does it? What makes it work, what
makes it cause, where does it come from? What causes cancer?

Speaker 9 (32:25):
Right?

Speaker 8 (32:26):
And when I say that, you've got to understand.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
They'll look at.

Speaker 8 (32:29):
Environmental toxins and so there's a correlation. They'll look at,
you know, different things. They'll say there's a correlation, but
they're not studying the actual causation within the cell. So
a lot of years ago they studied and there's a
couple theories. There's a parasitic theory, there's a metabolic theory.
There's a bunch of theories about what happens. But pretty
much everyone agrees that at some level cancer comes from

(32:50):
cellular stress. If they would study that and figure out
how to fix that or deal with that, they could
actually cure cancer. But they don't want to. They quit
studying it in the eighties because they realized they were
going to cure it, and then they lose their gravy train. So,
I mean, there's things that we do so example, and
I'm not trying to just plug my stuff. You know,
we got on the Time runs website. If you go

(33:12):
to my affiliate page. Two of the things that we used.
Global Health is one of our affiliates on Timerens dot
com and Global Healing. Global Health they have some of
the best supplements on the market and they've got a
great cancer protocol with supplements that they that they recommend.

(33:33):
I really like that. We also use R and C
Store B seventeen. That's John Richardson's I've got a link
there on Timerens dot com on affiliates. Those two vendors
were the primary sources I used for supplements. AD Group
at R and C Store or at Global Healing is

(33:55):
one of the best natural paths I've ever met in
my life. The guy is a genius and a real
good guy, and I touredis factory like, well, that's we
use that with Annie. There's something you.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
Got like thirty seconds for the segment. But I want
to get to the two big things fn bendazol and
i Remectin.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Did you use to use them?

Speaker 1 (34:15):
They were a part of it, all right, And when
we get listened, when we get back Tom, I want
to get into that a little bit because that's those
are two supplements and drugs that we are pushing on
our platform. Ladies and gentlemen, when you go to We're
gonna go to a break. While we're on break, trot
over to Tom Wrens dot com, take a look at

(34:35):
what he's talking about. Bookmark his website because it's full
of information. And while you're there, drop some nickels into
the gifts and go. We're gonna be back with Tom
Wrens on Cowboy Logic.

Speaker 12 (35:02):
Everybody.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
I'm done a fiducia with Cowboy Logic with Ida, our
newest rescue dog, and we've got a new MyPillow dog
bed for her. She don't know her name yet, so
she don't even come when she's called. And big Dome
because we're sitting on his big bed that he's had
for a number of months. They're washable and driable, and
I gotta tell you, Yep, he enjoys it.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
He's relaxing.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
These dogbeds are awesome for the dogs, and they again
last because this dogbed, I gotta tell you it is
probably eight ten months old. I've watched it numerous times.
But they come all rolled up like this. You can
see if this is the medium size for Ida, wherever
the heck she went. And when you just take open
this plastic, it pops up and you've got your medium

(35:44):
or large or small dogbed. Go to MyPillow dot com
promo code seventeen seventy six. It supports Michael Lindell and
of course our Cowboy Logic show.

Speaker 12 (35:54):
We really do appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
MyPillow dot com and mystore dot com for all these
great products. Promo code seventeen seventy six.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
My baby on the side of that day, then go
induce that in saying time again now and I'm here
having born to second the nine.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Your thinking that.

Speaker 13 (36:47):
My money begin.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Don't let him to.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Back off my.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Don't I talk about they.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Written my message in the side of the son.

Speaker 12 (37:02):
I had to die of h.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
And I told about qualities and it's either your don't
go or ride.

Speaker 12 (37:11):
But it's the being of my money.

Speaker 18 (37:14):
It don't matter if the black or not.

Speaker 12 (37:17):
The bad no die.

Speaker 18 (37:20):
Now, Oh my gosh, Ted Jackson, look at the Nege boy.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
The Nuge has an aged eight.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
And if you've had your head in the sand for
the last few years, make sure you watched Ted Nugent
show on Real America's Voice Spirit Campfire.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
They broke the mold after him Bill Bill McClintock mashups
and there's a bunch.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
Of them on YouTube. That guy is amazing.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, go check him out. We've got a four or
five of them that we've put together for you guys
that we're going to play over the next few weeks.
But he does amazing work. And I can tell you
that kind of a production and that kind of work
is not easy to do. It's not AI. He's not
using that.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
And I'll tell you someone else who basically does things
to the umpteenth degree, and that would be one Tom Wrens.
So let's bring Tom Wrens back. We were talking about
how awesome it is that your wife Annie overcame breast cancer,
even being diagnosed at stage four, and how you did
well unfortunately chemo to start, which.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Which you basically did to buy some time so you
could do some research because you walked into a situation
and you're going, hey, everything I ever thought about medicine,
this is the exact opposite. These people don't want to
cure my wife, but to have.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
The ironmactin and the fen bend has all come in
there as well, which so many people are now waking
up to.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
And they're great. And we used that was that was
another part of what we used, right, so and you know,
part of the problem was is that so we started
out and we thought we were going to first too
completely holistic, and then it just wasn't working right. It
just wasn't We weren't doing it right as part of
the problem. So you know, then we had to buy
time because it's aggressive. So it's like a forest fire,

(39:40):
right you've got it. Before you can put the fire out,
you got to contain it. So the chemo ended up
being like digging the hole around the forest fire to
kind of contain it. Yeah, it's too bad we had
to use it, but you know, in our case, I
wasn't ready for this, and there are no doctors or
people that will tell you what to do. I mean,
there's just not many people know. But then you know,

(40:01):
we move in, we get we get a good treatment protocol.
And the protocols include ivermectin and fen ben, which I
really like. They're showing a ton of promise, a ton
of promise, and uh, you know, they tie in. There's
this kind of theory that that there that there are
certain characteristics of cancer that are very very much well,
very similar to a parasite. Right, the cancer is very

(40:22):
parasitical in nature, and uh, you know that's that's my
understanding is that's where the fen ben ivermectin come in
because they both you know, they're anti parasites. So, you know,
it's been that has been a key part of the process.
There's a lot of guys doing a lot of work
on it. You know, doctor Macus is out there. There's
a bunch of people starting to study it. They need

(40:43):
to get some real studies. So and you know what, guys,
this is the problem. This is the problem cancer. Just
like everything else, the big pharmer touches, they start out
with how can they maximize profit? Not how can they
cure the disease? Not how can they deal with the issue,
and so they study things the wrong way. Ivermectin fenn
Ben has shown tremendous promise. They're very cheap. Why isn't

(41:08):
NIH funding legit studies on how to use it, where
to use it, what it works best on? You know,
all these things. Why isn't NIH in these things? You know,
you tell Bobby coming in, they're very cheap.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
You just said it.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
They don't make any money off of viver and ben
is all in hydroxychlor.

Speaker 12 (41:26):
Ni H.

Speaker 8 (41:27):
Legally isn't supposed to be worried about that, but they
were because they're crooked as hell.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
You talk about RFK, so you get into that because
I'm thinking this is awesome.

Speaker 8 (41:37):
Well, yeah, now we got Bobby coming in, and you
know the thing that really comes to comes down to
now Bobby's clever, right, so when we look at the
cancer thing and you know there's actually uh Bob Malone,
love him or hate him. Robert Malone posted a little
bourb this morning and I shared it because it was
really it was really good. And he used groc and

(42:00):
if you don't mind, I'll actually I will share this.
I'll show you guys. It's he used groc and he
put up this this tweet here about breast cancer is
a correlation between breast cancer or cancer and breast cancer
and COVID vaccines? And what he did was he he said, Okay,

(42:24):
in states where there's a whole bunch of cancer, you know,
popping up, are those the same states where there's a
whole bunch of caner COVID vaccines? Is there a correlation
between the two? Well, he went through and he convinced
ROC to actually study this properly, and when he got done,
turns out that that there there most certainly is, and

(42:46):
there not only is, but there is with a ninety
five percent confidence interval. Now, when you do epidemiology, when
you do the science stuff. Right now, I'm a lawyer,
not a scientist, but I have to understand the science
to argue it. When you do this, you say, okay,
there's a correlation, you know, are these things tied together?

(43:07):
And then you do what's called a confidence interval, and
it says how confidence how confident are you that the
relationship between the two things is a legitimate cause and
effect type thing, right, not just a random thing?

Speaker 10 (43:21):
Right?

Speaker 8 (43:21):
Because I can walk outside and it can be raining,
and you can say well, it's raining because I walked outside.
But that's not true, right, So you can have two
things that happen that aren't cause and effect. In this case, though,
the way that they ran the numbers, he said, you know,
is there a cause and effect? And with a ninety
five percent probability, there is a cause and effect between

(43:44):
the COVID vaccines and cancer. So you know, we know
and I've been through this. I've been working on this
right because we know that the COVID vaccines they contain
pseudo uridine, which is a known cancer causing agent. They
have SV forty, which is known cancer agent. And they
actually had a study that came out of Europe where

(44:04):
they found what's called a promoter in the vaccines. Now,
a promoter is something, and it was an SV forty
promoter and that the point of that is to make
the SV forty more impactful. Essentially, well, that can't get
in there by accident. And this is actually potentially potentially

(44:24):
evidence that they intended these vaccines to cause cancer. Think
about that. Now, does it prove it by no means?
And certainly people are just saying, oh, Rev, that's a
wild allegation, it's crazy. But wait, a second, the SV
forty couldn't be in the vaccine bottle by accident. That's
not an accidental thing, and it wasn't as closed to

(44:45):
the FDA. So here's the question. Was this the ultimate
snake oil scam? We're going to give the world something
that's going to cause cancer while we work on a
new mRNA poison to treat the cancer that we just caused.
And I think that's something that we need to ask ourselves.
And it's a fair question. And you may and the

(45:07):
scientists will say to me, rams that's premature. You can't
say that, And I'm going to say to them this.
I just watch you guys, you scientists, folks lie to
me about masks. I watch you lie to me about
social distancing. I watch you lie to me and tell
me that if I got the COVID JAB, I wouldn't
get cancer or get COVID, even though you knew that

(45:29):
you didn't even test it for that. I've watched you
lie to me about every single thing you said. I
have evidence, right, I'm a lawyer, not a scientist, and
I have evidence that suggests that this was known, that
they put stuff in these vials that they knew would
cause cancer. SV forty's there and there's a promoter there.

(45:51):
I have every right to ask this question. This is logic, right,
this isn't I don't need to have a scientist do
a study on this. If I can show you that
they have ingredients in there that they called no cause cancer,
and there are ingredients that couldn't be in there by
accident that they know cause cancer and they lied about
it being in there, I have every right to ask you,

(46:14):
did they intend for this to cause cancer so that
they can push their mRNA cancer vaccines? You know, I
think that's a fair question.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
We've had people on the show.

Speaker 6 (46:23):
We've had video undercover videos of people at the pharmacy saying, look,
you're giving me, you want me to take this vaccine,
but it doesn't even have the ingredients. And I'm going
to tell you my cousin passed away in the last
year or so.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
She wouldn't let me visit her.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
Because we weren't vaccinated. She was triple vaxed, she was
in remission, and it came back with a vengeance.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
This is what you know. This is what is so
scary to me.

Speaker 6 (46:54):
And now given that it's been a few years, we're
seeing HIV and AIDS.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Possible side effect, which is what I want to get to.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
We've already read out of time in this break and
how you say that there's a new COVID twenty twenty
five just what we need because unfortunately our government does
really not have our best interests at heart. More with
Tom Wrens coming back on Cowboy Logic right after this,
So no mine from.

Speaker 13 (47:25):
Explained time.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Ladies and gentlemen, If you go to doctor Stella MD
dot com, you can actually tell a medicine with her
and get and become one of her personal patients. And
then that's where the good things start happening, because she's
got this network of doctors, network of pharmacies all over
the United States, all fifty states that'll fill these prescriptions
for you and ship them to your home. Doctor Stella

(47:54):
MD dot com seventeen seventy six promo code gets five
percent off. Will those medicine cabinets now? Don't wait till
you're six?

Speaker 12 (49:24):
How cannot feel fast?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Barn party drummers, it's the drummers, you guys that don't
know what we're talking about. See that thing in the
right hand corner. Get her trot over together and get
her and sign up for a free account and join
us in the barn parties on Friday nights at nine
pm Eastern and Sunday afternoons at four pm Eastern. Uh,
we don't really wake up for the six o'clock show,
but there is a barn party going on. Yeah, we

(50:01):
were in there this morning, by gosh, and it was
like ten thousand of you guys in there at six
o'clock in the morning. I'm thinking, what the hell's going
on around here? At any rate, Hey, big hat tip
to all the people that show up in our barn
parties because it's the most fun place to be on
a Saturday night and a Sunday afternoon. We don't tolerate

(50:21):
any foul language in there. We have a lot of fun,
but we don't tolerate foul language, and we don't tolerate
ladies being disrespected in the bar party. So let's bring
back brother Tom Wrens and we're going to get deep
into some more COVID stuff because and ladies and gentlemen,
I'm going to take a second here, Tom, and I'm

(50:42):
gonna shamelessly do what I do, probably better than most,
and it makes it so you don't have to do it.
We've known Tom for a lot of years, and Tom
Wrens works harder for less money than anybody that we know.

(51:04):
He will go for extended periods of time without paying
himself a penny, and there are.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Too many lawyers that work for less money.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Anyway, exactly, you can help out. You go to Tomwrens
dot com. You're gonna find the links that you need
to get over to his gifts and go and you
can help contribute to the work that this great man
does because I'm telling you, for all of the years
that we've met and known him, he works harder for

(51:33):
less money than anybody we know, period, full stop. So
be a part of team Wrens.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
Okay, Well, what's awesome now is that his wife Annie
has overcome her cancer and Tom can really concentrate on
trying to help the rest of the world.

Speaker 8 (51:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Now he's working with both hands neither one tied behind
his back, and he's whooping ass well.

Speaker 6 (51:55):
And what he's learned about cancers probably is certainlyvalle dispoint.
So speaking of which new COVID twenty twenty five, I
mean you were saying the CIA and the State Department
may all have parts in this, despite for the DoD
and THEDD, despite the fact that we've got RFK Junior

(52:15):
and they're hoping to right the wrong.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
The seeds unfortunately are there.

Speaker 8 (52:21):
Well, despite the fact that they forgot to credit us
with this. Going back to twenty twenty two before the
midterm election, you know, we submitted the report to the
to the Senate and House Republicans that demonstrated that COVID
came from the Wuhan lab right. So they buried that
until after the election, and then they came out with
their own report and forgot to tell everybody that we

(52:42):
were the ones that did the work. But you know,
they came out with that and they showed that what
we showed Eco Health Alliance was funded by USAID. Thank
you DOJ and Musk for exposing that what we already knew.
But it's out there in pop culture mainstream now right. USAID,
which is a CIA branch, right, so USAID is controlled

(53:04):
has been controlled for years by the CIA. They direct
the money largely, and the whole COVID debacle was really
appears to be something that was tied in with the CIA.
Looks like they were trying to set up an agency
to spy over there some craziness. It all went wrong,
but understand this. I can speculate about that, but I

(53:25):
don't have to speculate about this. When we transferred the
technology from the United States to Wuhan, China for them
to create sars Kov two in the lab, that's subject
to export controls. So if Elon musk and does want
to start really auditing something, what they need to do
is they need to look who signed off on exporting

(53:48):
that information or that data, that technology, that all that stuff.
Because Ralph Berrick was the key scientist behind it. He
still works at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill,
and he worked with him through Ecal Health Alliance, and
they transferred the technology necessary to do their experiments that
led to Sar's Kobe two in the Wuhan LAMB. And

(54:09):
they couldn't transfer that tech without it being authorized by
the State Department, the DoD all sorts of people, so
we could actually see who really is responsible for this
if they wanted to order it properly. And I will
volunteer my time with Bobby Kennedy to help him figure
that out if he wants to I will do it
for free, and I will be happy to do it
just so long as we get to put the people

(54:29):
in jail that were behind it. So we put that
over there. The problem is is once we've trained the
communist part of Chinese Communist Party on how to create
Sar's kov two, well they can use that training and
knowledge to create other things. Enter this new disease. Right,
So now we've got this coming. And this I shared

(54:53):
this morning, bad infecting. This is from I believe Nature,
I think is where it was published. Infecting merbi co
virus HKU five. COVID lineage two can use human ace
to as a cell entry receptor. Well, that's what the

(55:13):
spike protein from SARS covid, SARS COVID two used. Right,
So COVID nineteen, the COVID that we all knew and loved,
has been essentially upgraded. It looks like right, And of
course they're trying to claim that this is from a bat,
just like they did COVID. Right. So if you believe that,
I have a bridge to sell you, but this looks

(55:33):
like the new and better version of covid, well, lovely
and this listen, this everything about this looks like they
just took the stuff that they got from Eco Health
Alliance and continued their work and made something worse. And
guess what, I will almost guarantee you that we'll be here.
Don't worry. We can put it. We've got an intervention

(55:56):
for this. Do you know what the intervention will be?
Another COVID nineteen b RNA poison to donuts.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
If you want to make sure that you can get
well with our vaccine, we'll give you free free donuts.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Donuts or free French fries.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
Talk a little bit about the fact that Elon Musk
retweeted something that you found, which essentially does open the
door legally for Doge.

Speaker 10 (56:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (56:23):
So, I mean, you know, I looked at Trump's executive order, right,
so I'm looking at this and I don't really trust
anybody in the mainstream, and so you know, I'm hearing
all this controversy from both sides. Right. There's a lot
of people on our side that don't like Musk and
don't like what he's doing, and there's a lot of
people on the other side. But the people on our side,
and there's good, credible people like, for example, I got
a lot of respect for Naomi Wolf, she doesn't like

(56:44):
it must be in there. I disagree with her on
this one. Now, I don't really trust anybody, so I
always look at it myself. Here's the thing. I looked
at the law behind DOGE, and I looked at the
executive order. DOGE is actually the us DS renamed and
let me actually, I can show you this one too
if you want to see it.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Oh about a minute and a half here for this segment.
So all right, there you go.

Speaker 8 (57:08):
Well, there's the tweet, right, you can find it pinned
to the top of my thing. And basically what Trump
did is you've got the us DS, which is United
States Digital Services created by Obama for Obamacare. And I
can get into that in the next segment if you want.
But he just renamed it the us DO Services and
it's one hundred percent legal. It's been there since Obama.

(57:30):
It's doing the same sort of thing in a different way.
There's nothing illegal about this at all. And I mean,
there's a lot to say about it, but we'll get
into it next segment. I don't want to run you
guys off your time.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
No, we got about a minute left. But here's the thing.
The fact that you found that it was legal.

Speaker 6 (57:48):
A lot of people were saying, oh, it's not legal,
usaid like you said, and Mike Ben's has also said
on many times it's the CIA.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
It's just a cover I mean and State Department. You
got to remember the State Apartment is pulling the strings
for the CIA.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
And it's color revolutions around the country that we feel,
as people who backed the Jan sixers now for years
that that was a color revolution on we the people,
and it didn't work out the way some mainstream media
wanted it to work out, Thank god.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
But it and we've only got We've only got about
twenty seconds left. Tom, so whatever your reply is that,
I want to save it and bring it in after
the break so that we can get the full thing
without having to clip you ladies and gentlemen. Once again,
I would like to ask you guys to on the
break and then after the show, when you've got more time,
go to Tom Wrens dot com help contribute to becoming

(58:39):
a part of Team Wrens. And that takes money. That
takes money. We're with the great Tom Wrens. We'll be
back in just a few.

Speaker 6 (59:03):
Hey, gang, you know what food is great for you? Honey,
and now it's time to make Honey great again dot com.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
Well show this, hold on this, Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (59:15):
Isn't that if nothing else, You're gonna save the bottle afterwards?

Speaker 5 (59:20):
Don't see that much.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
M Yeah, make Honey great again dot com again.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
Honey really is something.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Drink honey like I do, and do four or five
takes of it.

Speaker 6 (59:34):
Make Honey great again dot com. Honey really is a
super food.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I'm all jacked up on that honey hot.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
You can cook with it. You know that it's great
for you.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
I drink it actually with a little apple cider vinegar,
and it tastes great, and it's good for you, helps
you lose weight. Make Honey great again dot com promo
code seventeen seventy six.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Gets each time I'm drinking. Write check up on the
nature sit week.

Speaker 19 (01:00:04):
Lord, we chained our hearts in pain. We jumped, never
asking why weissed. I fell under your spell. Love, No
good Dean night. Don't you ever say I just walked away.

(01:00:24):
I will always want you. I can level lie running
for my life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I will always want you.

Speaker 12 (01:00:37):
I came in like a.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Un now that.

Speaker 12 (01:00:42):
It's a word. Our money was way you are you
ever to do?

Speaker 19 (01:00:51):
Were me?

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Yay? You were me? I glitch you hi?

Speaker 12 (01:01:00):
Ive been the guy?

Speaker 20 (01:01:02):
Now you're not coming down. It's slowly turn you let
me burn? Now where rashes on the ground. Don't you
ever say I have just swung away.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
I will always watch. I can never lie running for
my life. I will always watch.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
I came in like ap.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
And it's a all I wanted was rk you?

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
Oh you haven't did was ready?

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Hey? Let me tell you something? Just me?

Speaker 8 (01:01:50):
Or did everybody else?

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Notice bondy boobs in the AI those were quite impressive.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
Well yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
I can say that because that wasn't even real now.
See I I am so happily married. I am not
going to be looking at other women's boots.

Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
You still can't get rid of the dirty mind, though, but.

Speaker 12 (01:02:13):
They AI you're allowed to go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Whoa bondy boobs? All right, let's get back to business.
Speaking of bondi boobs, let's get back to business. See
Tom rins is even thinking it's funny.

Speaker 8 (01:02:26):
So much trouble when you get off air.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I'll be sleeping on a my pillow dog bed for
the next week.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Which just got chewed up, so there's not much of it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (01:02:35):
Okay, let's finish.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Coach seventeen seventy six in case you guys want to
donate a dog bed Jimmy because I might need one.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
All right, finish up what you were saying on doge
because it was what you found legally that makes Doge legal.

Speaker 8 (01:02:50):
Yeah, I mean I had. We've got the Obama fact sheet.
It's it's right here, and it's on my Twitter feed,
So you guys, if you can't see it, or if
you want to look at it in detail, just go
to my Twitter feed. It's pined to the top. Just
look in the feed you'll see it. But basically, USDs
was created under Obama. All Trump did was modify the

(01:03:12):
name and then make them effective. They were brought in
when healthcare dot gov launched. It was a mess, you
all remember that. And basically Trump just this USDs was
created by Obama to fix healthcare dot gov because it
sucks so bad. All Trump did was say, listen, you're
going to fix software everywhere else too, which is what
USDs is for. And that's what DOSE is. They're just

(01:03:35):
fixing the software everywhere. But when you fix the software,
you see what's happening everywhere. That's how they find the corruption.

Speaker 6 (01:03:42):
You Know, what's amazing to me is how Trump really
has hit the ground right. It's like a little over
a month now, totally hit the ground running. Every single
wrecking ball, every single angle that they threw at him
last time, he's been ready for and then some.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Which is just refreshing. It's awesome. Okay, I want you
to put.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
On your legal hat again here and get into actual
judicial stuff. And the ABA, the American Bar Association, reportedly
got us AID money. The ABA is another three letter
agency that, in my opinion, I'm just a reporter here,
should be abolished too. They're all corrupted, well a.

Speaker 8 (01:04:27):
Well worse out of the state bar associations. Right, So
the state bar associations control my license, right, so if
I want to practice in Ohio, I'm subject to the
state Bar associates. But they're all tied with ABA, and
it's one big, messy disaster. And the problem is is
that we've got judges and bar associations now that instead
of you know, faithfully following the law and doing what

(01:04:51):
they need to under the law, they're becoming activists and
the law collapses if that happens, right, the justice system collapses.
This is a devastating and terrifying thing that's occurring. And
when you see judges outright violating the law twenty eight Usc.
Four fifty five, twenty eight Usc. Four fifty five, you
can look it up. It's it lays out when a

(01:05:12):
judge is legally required to recuse himself. There are a
number of cases where, in my opinion, these judges absolutely
are legally required to recuse themselves, but they choose to
sit on the case and then rule in just the
way you'd expect them to because they appear to have
an interest, which is the point of twenty eight Usc.

(01:05:33):
Four to fifty five. It requires a judge to recuse
himself where there's even a possibility that there could be
the appearance of impropriety, and then lays out further very
specific things where, for example, if your wife or someone
within three degrees of separation from familiarly has a interest
and a case that you're on, you know you have

(01:05:54):
to recuse yourself. But there is no mechanism outside of
impeachment under the law to deal with a corrupt judge
or a corrupt prosecutor.

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
Now they're so entrenched though, that's the problem like this,
Judge John Bates, his wife gets funded by USAID. She's
the one who said we have to keep this gender stuff,
information on gender ideology and sex change operations in place
for the time being. So his wife is the founder

(01:06:24):
of the Hope for Children in Ethiopia. I mean, and
she's gotten millions on all this and this it sounds
so nice.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Us AID even sounds so sweet.

Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
And then you've got Judge Mershawn, this was so in
your face when Trump was on trial that his daughter
is making a hundred million dollars all of a sudden,
off of all this, Matthew Graves, his wife Fatimagosgraves out
of the DC circuit. She was the one who's spearheading
all this information against Clarence Thomas. I mean, it's unbelievable

(01:06:57):
it's going on, and they've been to the White House
gazillion times. It's so obvious. I mean, do we have
enough time to get rid of these people. I'd like
to just be able to just start over again, but
it doesn't seem like it's possible.

Speaker 8 (01:07:11):
Well, so this is very complicated, nuanced under the law.
But basically each one of them have their various excuses
for why they think that what they're doing is okay.
None of them hold up in my opinion. I think
these guys absolutely we're violating the law in my opinion.
But here's the problem. The only thing that we can
do under the law with a federal judge is to

(01:07:32):
impeach him. There's basically they've got it set up where
these guys who are supposed to be arbiters of the law,
it's supposed to be the most respectful people of the
law that there are, are essentially immune from the law.
There's nothing you can do but to impeach them. And
they've got this nonsensical theory out there that if they
do something wrong, you can file a bar complaint, they'll
get the Ethics Commission will take care of it. That

(01:07:53):
is not how it works. That is an absolute lie.
If you file a complaint on a federal judge as
a lawyer, you're going to get retaliated upon, you're going
to get investigated, and you're going to end up in
all sorts of trouble. No one, it's an unspoken, unwritten
rule you do not file complaints against federal judges. I mean,
in all but the rarest of occasions, you end up

(01:08:14):
in a lot of trouble yourself if you do so.
Unless I'm of the very very unpopular opinion that I
think that we need to pass legislation and it needs
to be very narrow. Judges have to be able to
do their job, and they have to have a lot
of latitude, and I support that. But where there are
egregious cases where judges or prosecutors are abusing their power,

(01:08:39):
the people who are victims of that abuse need to
be able to sue their butts and hold them accountable personally.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
Jay six Ers, Okay, we've got two minutes left.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
Nowhere in the Constitution that I've said are seen does
a federal judge have absolute power over the president of
the United States. These judges stopping Trump in so many
different respects, How is that possible?

Speaker 8 (01:09:01):
No one will like, well, it's incorrect. I mean, listen,
the separation of powers are very clear. You know, it's interesting.
You know when the Supreme Court rules, that means that
the laws decided in their opinion. But they do make mistakes.
I mean, they just overruled Chevron, you know, they overturned
Roe v. Wade. The Supreme Court makes mistakes, you know,
they do, and you know, I'm not sure where they are.

(01:09:24):
I heard a report, but I haven't had a chance
to review it yet. Today I saw a report today
that the Supreme Court was going to allow at least
one of the injunctions on firing to stand. Now, I've
got to believe that there's more to it than that,
because it is one hundred percent crystal clear under the law,
the president can decide who works for him, that is
one hundred percent in his realm, and the judges, the courts,

(01:09:48):
the judiciary does not have the right to interfere. That
separation of powers is critical, and if the judiciary breaks
that down, they literally risk the entire the entire structure,
the constitutional structure of our country. Because the judiciary is
not it is a coequal branch of the government. It's
not more powerful, but it's also not less powerful than

(01:10:10):
an executive branch. So if they're violating the law themselves, uh,
you know, by by overreaching and crossing that boundary on
the separation of powers, that is a risk to our
entire constitution and those judges. We need to be looking
at impeachment immediately.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
You go, well, Tom, unfortunately powerful ending Tom, Yeah, that
is a powerful ending, But unfortunately we have to end
it right there again at Wren's Tom on social media
and Tom Wrens dot com for all that information that
you just heard this last hour.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
Everybody, thank you so much, Tom.

Speaker 12 (01:10:42):
We love you.

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
We will be back with more Cowboy Logic.

Speaker 10 (01:10:45):
Right you can find me in the back of the
tactive tailgate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
See there, what's in all.

Speaker 12 (01:10:53):
These pretty things? Get down in the Georgia clean how
found me at the bottom of a real Tomko.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Hey, everybody, dinnu and Cowboy Logic here to do a
side by side comparison between my Nemo arm, Omen Watchman
three hundred wind mag and a Remington seven seventy three
hundred win mag. There is no comparison, none, none at all.
The recoil on this Omen Watchman three hundred win mag.

Speaker 8 (01:11:26):
Pokito very little.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Let's do a side by side comparison. First up the
Remington seven seventy three hundred win mag. Look at what
that's doing to my shoulder. I pulled the trigger and
watched my shoulder. That's important. That's enormous fatigue. Now let's
go up against the Omen Watchman, the three hundred win
mag by Nemo arms right there, check out the recoil.

(01:11:50):
They got it. Fine tuned, ladies and gentlemen, fine tune.
There is zero fatigue firing round after round after round.
Nemo arms at email worms dot com. Trot over and
check them out. It's well worth all right, Welcome back

(01:12:53):
to Cowboy Logic. Everybody. Tom Wrens will scare the pants
off of.

Speaker 10 (01:12:56):
You, and uh tomns dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Well, Donnis, he all has our pants on, so that's
a good thing.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
But here's their camelfry.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
But hey, follow time, follow him and support him. He's
a great man and he's doing unbelievable work. Okay, we're
going to move into a JA six situation now and
we're going to bring on one of our buddies that
we've had over the years. But we've only talked to
him from behind bars, so quite frankly, I don't even
know what this guy looks like nowadays. Tom Wrenz kind
of shocked us with the beard. But we've got Ryan

(01:13:25):
Nichols that we're going to bring on. And before we
bring him on, I want to talk to you about
what we're actually going to talk about. You know, most
of the Jay six interviews that we've done for the
past thirty days have been very celebratory. They've been reunited
with their families, they've got freedom once again. Some of
them are even here with us. But there's a dark

(01:13:48):
side to this also, that these that these guys and
gals are struggling with, and that is acclimating back into
society from both a financial some of them don't have
jobs and emotional some of them are trying to figure
out how to rebuild their families after four years, and

(01:14:08):
some of them are going through some psychological stuff in
which they're having kind of a sensory overload. So I
want to bring Ryan in with us. And Ryan, first
of all, every man, is it good to finally see you. Brother.
Welcome to Cowboy Logic. Man, Welcome to face to face
Cowboy Logic.

Speaker 21 (01:14:27):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Absolutely my friend US Marine for all those of you
that follow the military, we got a marine here with
us and h and that's special. Now, you know. I've
talked to Kelly Megs, for example, every day. Talk to
Bart Shively, you remember Bart. Talk to Jeff mccallup, Talk

(01:14:52):
to Dan Caldwell, talk to Lego Man, talk to Kenny Harrilson,
talk to Connie Mags and what I'm seeing being more
than anything, is this sensory overload. And Kelly, I think
termed it best for me to be able to understand.
And that was He goes, I walked in my house

(01:15:14):
and I had a panic attack. And he goes, that's
not how I am. The whole three and a half
years that I talked to Kelly, Megs and C two
B and in prison, he wouldn't have panic attacks, right,
But he goes, for four years, my life was in
an eighteen inch by three foot box and it was

(01:15:36):
very organized and very system eighteen inch by three foot box.
It's a box.

Speaker 5 (01:15:43):
Oh, I see you're saying. So I thought he's about
the cell.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
No, eighteen inch by three foot box. Everything that he
owned was compartmentalized in that little thing, and it was
totally under his control. And he walks in his house
and he's freaking out because there's stuff. It wasn't a
messiful home, right, but there was stuff every He goes,
man the pictures on, I got pictures all over the wall. Well,

(01:16:06):
you had them there when you left, Kelly, you know,
But help us understand, because you've got a unique perspective, Ryan,
you had to go through this twice now. First time
was twenty two months after being in DC. Then you
got released for in home incarceration basically so you could
prepare for your trial. Then you got sentenced and you

(01:16:27):
spend another twelve months in a prison. So you're going
through what you're going through now, but you also understand
why you're going through. Help some of these guys that
haven't had this before.

Speaker 21 (01:16:39):
Yeah, so you know, you're starting to get right where
I'm at, where a lot of other guys are at,
and really what you're going to see happen all the
way across the board for guys that were in and
women that were in, and people that are coming out
of jail and prison on a daily basis, I don't
even understand how guys are functioning right now, and especially

(01:17:01):
guys that were in the pen and the penitentiries. I
was at a medium for about six to seven months,
and then two weeks after Trump won, went down to
a low, which had its own problems in itself that
I could have never imagined would have happened at a low.
But I've never imagined that I would have seen the
things that I saw at a medium as well. And

(01:17:22):
I was watching an interview yesterday with a guy that
did twenty years, and he said that you have to
become insane in order to stay sane while you're in
because your brain, when you start seeing the things that
are happening and you're not used to them, you have
to become desensitized in order to stay sane and not

(01:17:43):
lose your mind. And so when you get released, immediately,
like a lot of us Scott released, you come out.
I don't even want to pay the bills when we
go out to eat. Right now, my wife, Bonnie, God
bless her, she pays the bills. She's running this company
right now, have a company that is flourishing. I'm not

(01:18:04):
even able to go in and perform my duties and
task on a daily basis. I try jumping right back
into work, and there's some days where I have, you know, one,
two three days in a row where they're great, and
I'm able to go in there and I flourish. And
then I have a two, three, four days in a
row where I can't even see in front of me

(01:18:24):
hardly and get anything accomplished. I'll go in and everything
has changed so much since I've been gone that I
just I can't seem to use the phone as quickly
as I want to, or I can't seem to post
something to Twitter or x as quickly as I want to,
or I can't pull out the phone and take a
video and say the words. They just don't come out

(01:18:45):
the same way that they used to. And so I'm
having problems and difficulties on my own. And I run
a multimillion dollar business and I'm supposed to get out
there and I've expected to perform on a daily basis,
and I'm not able to do that. And so right
now now, I'm grateful and thankful that my wife has said, Hey, Ryan,
go to the house for the next six to twelve months,

(01:19:06):
take care of the boys, take them to baseball, lay
under the sunshine, go swim in the pool. Back there,
rest and relax. But I know that there are men
and women other jan sixers right now that don't have
that aren't afforded that luxury and ability, and so I'm wondering, like, well,
how do we help them? And That's what I'm focused on,

(01:19:26):
is how can I help these people and show these
people that I'm going through the same thing. I'm dealing
with this too, and find out a solution in a
way to solve that issue, because that is going to
be the next issue, is that you're going to see
guys over the next one two, three months, four months

(01:19:46):
try to transition back out of prison and they're not
able to do that just because it's.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Hard, and it's hard, and on a broad scale, this
is something that needs to be addressed by the Trump
administration when they can get get rid of who's ever
the head of the BOP and start putting in an
actual task for us to investigate this BOP system and
correct it because it's flawed terribly. We got about two
minutes before we got to go to a break here.

(01:20:13):
What are some of the things that you're experiencing that
I'm sure some of these other guys and gals are experiencing.
And I'll use the term like turbo add It's like,
you know, from talking to them, I'm like hearing, well,
I start doing one thing and the next thing you know,
I'm doing something else and I don't even remember moving

(01:20:35):
to that. You got about a minute, maybe a minute
and a half here.

Speaker 21 (01:20:39):
So I'm the chief marketing officer at my company. My
job is to go in and just put things online.
I can't even seem to get one post put on
social media right now, or get one video created in
its totality before moving on, or being scattered brained or
wanting to go to the next thing. There's so much

(01:21:00):
going on around me. I'm used to being in a
prison cell, like Kelly Mix said, a ten foot by
seven foot cell of eighteen inch by three foot box
with all my belongings in it. I'm not used to
being being afforded to be able to make so many
decisions at one time. And now I'm able to do that,
and it's a lot. It's a lot right now.

Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
It's awesome that you have a business, you have a
beautiful home. Thank god, your wife Bonnie was able to
hold onto things and keep things going. And it's said
that the majority of Jan six ers don't have that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
They don't. But you know what, you're willing to help,
and we need to figure out a way to help
these guys and gals get through this transitioning period, this
acclimating back into society period, because I'm what I'm terrified
of is if those that can't get over this, what

(01:21:54):
do they turn to? What do they starting doing?

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
And that's a huge problem.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
With the We're gonna pick back up with this and
maybe try to brainstorm on some solutions and some paths
that people can take that help help get over this hurdle.
We got Ryan Nichols finally in the barn in person.
You're watching Cowboy Logic. We'll be right back, you know.

Speaker 22 (01:22:31):
And I really gave it a lot of thought right
before January sixth, and I'm like, gosh, man, if I'm
going to go into this ryot, I need to smell
my best. That's why before every riot, I shower with
Sugar Creek Goods with natural lie in oriaments and Lilac
scented fragrance.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
You too can r frizzy so wonderful. Yes, I am
ready for battle.

Speaker 22 (01:22:53):
Thank you very much Sugar Creek Goods for making me
smell fresh in every riot.

Speaker 16 (01:22:57):
I actually showered with that last night. And I know
you I actually showered with this last night. Let me
tell you something, and this is country. This bar is
a man sized bar. Look at this. Look at the
thickness of that bar. No communion way for that. And
when you're in prison, you could.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Sell one of these for like two honeybutons and maybe
another bag of coffee with that. So well, when you're
in prison, that's worth that's worth bending over to pick up.
Wouldn't you say at least three honey buns?

Speaker 16 (01:23:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
All right?

Speaker 11 (01:23:26):
Did your prison have a sign on the shower that
said one man at a time.

Speaker 22 (01:23:30):
Yes, but that one got scooped up really great, that's it, dude.
That's why we put a rope on every soap.

Speaker 16 (01:23:36):
That's right, that's what a rope. Do they have a
soap on the rope? January sixth edition, They should know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
But I am going to tell you something that you
guys may not know, and that is that they've got
the Sugar Creek Goods. People have got that there's a
soap on a rope. I gosh, the Patriot Bar. And
here's what she did. Every bar of soap. All the
proceeds for the Patriot Bar went back into commissary funds

(01:24:01):
and things like that.

Speaker 16 (01:24:02):
For you guys, say.

Speaker 12 (01:24:15):
Whatever you fall reed telling me any.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
All right, welcome back to Cowboy Logic, everybody. We've got
brother Ryan Nichols in the barn with us. Ryan, And
for those of you that don't, for those of you viewers,
beloved viewers that don't recognize who this guy actually is.
He's extremely important. He's an extremely important guy with regard
to the Cowboy Logic shows because at the end of

(01:24:41):
every show, when we play the national anthem, that's the
guy that's holding the laptop that videoed the guys in
DC's jail singing the national anthem. So he's the one
that's right there. He's smiling, he's singing, he's looking back
at everybody, and it's all legal, but he's he's in
the he's in the bottom right end corner of the

(01:25:03):
frame if I if I picture this right, But that's
Ryan Nichols. It was doing that, and he sent it
out to his lawyer, and his lawyer posted it and
that's where we grabbed it. And then we started packaging
the whole thing up when Trump, uh, well we did
it before then when we were using the old national anthem, right,
But you want to you want to expand on that

(01:25:23):
a little bit and just add little humor to what's
going on here before we get back.

Speaker 16 (01:25:26):
Into the serious.

Speaker 21 (01:25:27):
Hellphone and I see you know comments online, how'd you
get a cell phone in there? It wasn't a cell phone.
The jail gives us the laptop so we can view
our discovery on there. These laptops have cameras on them.
I missed making videos and so I was like, well,
let me make some videos on this laptop. And saw
we sang the national anthem every night at nine pm.

(01:25:47):
I took the video on the laptop. I put it
on the hard drive for the discovery. My attorney, Joseph
McBride came to visit me. I gave him the hard
drive and I said, hey, there's a president on there
for you. He went and found it and he posted
it online and that's how that video got out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
So and it's been seen by millions of people.

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
At this point, Don snked it up with the with
the actual singing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
I've got an extremely serious question here that I need
to ask you, and this is going to be an
emotion one for me. Why didn't I get a video
of Jeff mccallup during a hopium den where he had
his underwear twisted up looking like a thong. I just
want to know, come on.

Speaker 21 (01:26:27):
I didn't want to be the guy to let you
know that I've got that video somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Oh man, listen nice hey, and he's going to send
it to be mcallop and then it might end up
on the show.

Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
They just broke them old after Jeff McKellop.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
Let's get back into the seriousness here and see how
we can help out some folks. Because again, you've gone
through this this acclamation period twice and so you kind
of know what you're going through right now and what
to expect. But you know, I think it really does
boil down to the fact that for four years, up

(01:27:06):
to four years, many of you guys and gals were confined. Yeah,
and you were limited on what you were allowed to do.
You were you know, all you could do is really
think in your mind. I can't even imagine the voices
that you guys heard in your heads. I can't imagine that.

Speaker 21 (01:27:25):
Well, you're you're you're having you're taking it, and your
mind is having to the volume is having to be
turned down and you're having to be powered down. And
so we went in running one hundred miles an hour,
you know, and so when you when you get placed
into that ten foot by seven foot sell and your
mind is running one hundred miles an hour, you feel

(01:27:47):
like you're going crazy inside of there. And yeah, you
do hear, you know, you do feel like you hear
some voices and it feels like those walls are talking
to you, and you have to deal with all your
demons and you have to deal with everything on the inside.
And I made a statement one time I heard at
one point, I heard men sobbing. I heard men crying
for their mothers. I was one of them at one point.

(01:28:10):
Solitary confinement hurt me mentally really bad, and it hurt
other men really bad. I watched men deteriorate. I watched
men mentally deteriorate and not be the same person that
they were when I watched them walk into that pod.
And solitary confinement was bad and the effects of it

(01:28:33):
are not over. And I'm dealing with it right now
because I did have to power my mind down and
go from running one hundred miles in an hour to
running five miles an hour because I'm sitting inside of
a cell all day and so now I'm out. And
just like any muscle, you know, just like you know,
when you start doing you know, waited push ups or

(01:28:55):
you do you know, anything in the gym, you're your
body has to get stronger. Well so is your mind.
And I'm having to learn how to have confrontational meetings
with people again. Inside of my company. I'm having to
learn how to look people in the eye again and

(01:29:15):
talk to people face to face. I'm having to learn
how to walk in a store again and make a decision.
I'm used to the one or two toothpaste that's on
the commissary, not the one hundred toothpastes that are on
the store aisle to choose from, you know. And so
Shane Jenkins one time, I remember when we were in
he did like fourteen or sixteen years in Texas State Prison,

(01:29:35):
and he said, Ryan, you know, the problems that you're
dealing with right now are not the only problems that
you're gonna deal with. My attorney, Joseph McBride, he had
a brother that was in and he's dealt with a
lot of people in and he said the same thing, Ryan,
the problems that you're dealing with right now are not
the only problems that you're gonna deal with. You're gonna
have a different set of problems when you get out.
And I laughed at them then, and I'm not laughing now.

(01:29:58):
And so to the other guys and and girls and
ladies and women that are dealing with with the same
issues that I'm expressing right now. You feel like there
is a fog, and it's a physical fog that you're
trying to push through in your mind on a daily basis.
Right now, I get it, I understand it. I'm going
to be talking about that more on my social media
and feel free to join me and let those thoughts out.

(01:30:21):
It's not it's not healthy to keep those things in.
You don't have to keep those things in. And know
that a marine, a big bad marine, somebody that that
that you, you know, I would look at and say, like,
he's not dealing with that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
He is.

Speaker 21 (01:30:36):
I am dealing with those things. I am dealing with
the same problems and the same issues that you're having.
And I want to help, and I am going to help.
And we can't talk about all the ways to help
right now, but know that I am going to be
talking about those on my ex feed and all my
social media's and uh and I look forward to coming
back on here and talking about absolutely and we will.

Speaker 6 (01:30:55):
I'm thinking a nice weekend at Ryan's wouldn't be such
a bad deal.

Speaker 12 (01:30:58):
I mean, just like the tool.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Hey, I want to give a hat tip to somebody
you just mentioned, and over the three and a half
years that we did the heavy coverage of Jay six,
one of our good brothers, Shane Jenkins. You know, he
was there for us as well, and I know that
he was a leader in that pod and his his

(01:31:26):
past helped you deal with your present and your futures, okay,
and God bless him and everything that he's doing prison.

Speaker 21 (01:31:35):
And if I had it not been for Shane, I
would not have been as prepared for prison. Nothing can
prepare you for prison, okay. But without Shane, I wouldn't
have been as prepared as I was, And so I
really appreciate what he did for myself and for other
guys inside of there.

Speaker 6 (01:31:50):
What's so frustrating to me is I'm sure you probably
had maybe parking tickets before something like that, and.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
You were in a probably had speeding tickets, I would say.

Speaker 14 (01:32:00):
The other day in Florida, I saw that nice job man.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
To go into a medium. I mean, that's really it's insane.

Speaker 21 (01:32:10):
I can't wait to talk about that, especially on other episodes.
I feel like the DOJ was trying to kill me,
and other guys agreed when I got there to the
medium that I shouldn't be there, and they just I
shouldn't have been at the medium, especially not in Beaumont.
That place it was a running one hundred miles an hour.

(01:32:31):
It was a war zone. That place is a war zone.
And don't let anybody tell you any differently.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Well, and we didn't get a chance to talk about it,
and we wanted to. And that is once you guys
got out of prison, you go into halfway houses and
these are not anything to be real happy about. Okay,
there's a lot of pressure. And Ryan, we don't have
time to go into it, so I'm gonna tease it
and we'll talk about it some other time. And that

(01:32:57):
is you're under the gun, ladies and gentlemen. Once you
move into that halfway house, you got thirty days to
get a job. Now, they different halfway houses have different policies,
and some of them don't place emphasis on that, but
there were some of them that were really putting the
pressure on these guys to get a job or you're
going back to prison. And when you can't, when you

(01:33:18):
got to put down on your resume that you're a
jay sixer, you know what kind of process.

Speaker 21 (01:33:24):
Hey, you can't work a job right now?

Speaker 10 (01:33:27):
You just got out of prison exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Hey, listen, we want you to stay with us. We
close the show every week with the most beautiful national
anthem ever sung that by our beloved Jay Sixers and
C two B. Gentlemen, remove those hats, ladies, hands over
your hearts. We appreciate you all trusting us with two
hours of your valuable time. Brother Ryan Nichols, we love you, man,

(01:33:52):
and thanks for being here. We'll see you guys next week.

Speaker 5 (01:33:55):
I'd bless you, and.

Speaker 9 (01:34:08):
So I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Of America, who rides and ride and lost, to

Speaker 9 (01:34:41):
Square, and to the Republic for which it stands, one

(01:35:16):
nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all