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February 2, 2025 48 mins

SEGMENT 1: A TURNING POINT FOR AMERICA

SEGMENT 2: THE FIGHT TO MAKE AMERICA HEALTHY AGAIN

SEGMENT 3: CHALLENGING THE NARRATIVE

SEGMENT 4: THE ATTACK ON VA PET OWNERS

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And not what your country can do for you and
what you can do for your country.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
We have to rise above challenges and find strength in
the midst of adversity.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
We are in a battle of good birth of evil.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Satan is the father of confusion.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
I don't care what they do to me. I'm going
to keep calling them out.

Speaker 5 (00:24):
They're berserk, trying to disarm Americans, and we need to
push back.

Speaker 6 (00:28):
I'm glad you're fighting for America.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
There's always hope.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside because it's
the outsiders to change the world.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
Hello everyone, and welcome to faith and freedom. I'm Schamaine Nugent,
and I'm so glad that you're here. Thank you for
joining me. Donald Trump has been in office just for
a couple of weeks, and he is already making America
great again. Meanwhile, Biden spent fifty years in government and

(01:02):
did what exactly. Trump saved women's sports. He declared there
are only two genders and shut down taxpayer funded gender
transitions for miners. He secured the border, deployed troops, ramped
up deportations, and stopped violent illegals from flooding in. He
dumped the WHO no more US dollars for an organization

(01:26):
that pushes a globalist agenda. He slashed woke waste by
your DEI bureaucrats and did military trans policies and put
equity garbage on notice. He saved you millions, no more
taxpayer funded condoms for Gaza. And that's just the start.

(01:47):
Imagine what he's going to do in about a month.
Buckle up here with me now to.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Discuss all of this.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
As the founder of Gloria Glory Ministries and the host
of America shines right here on Real America's Voice, Aubrey
shines every welcome.

Speaker 7 (02:01):
Hey, great being with you guys, and by the way,
love the work Chamaane that you guys are doing. Fantastic,
So honored to be with you.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So Biden's out, Trump is back. What's your reaction to
the switch? Is it relief, excitement or all of the above.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
Well, Jess, in case your audience don't know, I actually
traveled with then candidate Trump back in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,
and I got there she may because I was the
only clergy that Hillary Clinton put in her book by
name as to the reason that she lost the election,

(02:40):
I own that.

Speaker 8 (02:41):
Title right there.

Speaker 7 (02:43):
So when I look at twenty twenty five Donald Trump,
I think we're going to even see a more exciting version.

Speaker 8 (02:50):
I think the body of work that.

Speaker 7 (02:51):
Trump and his team have done, I'm glad and honored
that I was a part of that in twenty sixteen.
But moving forward, I think you gave us a small
snippet of the great things that he's already begun to do.
Can you imagine what's going to happen when girls like
Pam Bondi, others like Kennedy Hext others are in and

(03:14):
they're really going and they're really doing. I think we're
really going to see a real renaissance really begin to
happen in our nation and for all of our friends
in the EU. There are some great changes that are
going to come. And our dear friends in Israel, I
think are super excited. I mean, because we finally have

(03:35):
a real leader, not an inept individual like Biden his
regime I called him the Obama regime. They're finally out
and now real men women, I think are going to
take the helm.

Speaker 8 (03:49):
I think we're going to do really well to mean, you.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Know, one of the first executive orders that Trump had
was he affirmed that God created just two sexist male
and female.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
How big of a win is this for America?

Speaker 7 (04:04):
Yeah, you know, it's huge because just imagine what so
many have gone through. I have so many friends that
are in corporate America, and they were forced to hold
onto these fake, false ideological bents. Of course, outside of
a theological piece, it had no science to it. And again,
people were losing their jobs because of the woke crowd.

(04:25):
And then when you look at individuals that are really
finding themselves having to earn, people like myself and others,
you we don't want anything given to us. No, no,
we believe the meritocracy and Trump in bodies that. So
we're seeing now finally the demise of the DEI crowd.
We're finally seeing the demise of the black lives matter.

(04:48):
Black lives didn't matter to these people. They were getting
rich off a bunch of white liberals that were dumping
billions of.

Speaker 8 (04:55):
Dollars into their organization.

Speaker 7 (04:57):
And finally we're getting a reprieve because a real leader
is finally in office. I'm over the topic sited. As
you can see you.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Know, I want to go back to that issue because
I believe that we all have people in our friends
and family circle who can relate to.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
This gender ideology.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
That we might not agree with, but we can continue
to love them.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
What would you recommend? How would you.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Suggest that Christians who believe in what this bill has
passed and what it says that they're only two genders?
How do you believe that people should move forward with this?
And Jesus wants us to love one another? But what
does that look like?

Speaker 7 (05:44):
Well, real love, according to Christ for those who have
a Christian ethos, real love is honesty. See, I would
be very dishonest with you, or you would be very
dishonest with me if you knew that I suffered from
some mental disability, but you kept affirming it by allowing
me to believe something that wasn't true. That's not love.

(06:06):
So how should a Christian really handle it? It's simple.
In love, we should be tender, kind, and all of
those wonderful attributes.

Speaker 8 (06:16):
But here's the real thing, that we should always be honest.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
And so I do an individual a great disservice if
I say to them, I know that you have five
thousand pronouns and I will abide by it. Well, I'm
not helping you. I'm actually then part of the problem.
So Christians should take a very strong, very loving position
to say, look, according to John Hopkins University, individuals that

(06:44):
suffer with this type of mental dysphoria, there's help for you,
and I love you enough to I'll go with you
to the clinic. I'll walk with you there. And I
think that should be our position. We don't have to
frown upon this disorder. It is a real disorder. And
again it's not for anyone Christian or not to simply

(07:06):
mock the individuals to say, look, we won, you lost. No,
these are people that are struggling and they're struggling with
disorder that actually can be resolved through professional medical care
as well. If they don't choose the route of Christianity,
that's their choice. But there are also guys and girls

(07:27):
that are in the medical profession that can actually help
them get to a.

Speaker 8 (07:32):
Better resolve than what they find.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
And remember the stats here by the time they reach
eighteen nineteen twenty years of age, according to John Hopkins
University as well, they actually say, you know what, that
was a phase.

Speaker 8 (07:44):
I was going through.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
Boy, I'm glad I didn't have some chemical castration to
take away various body parts because now I want to
live out being that man or that woman. I do
believe I have a life of purpose. I think that
should be the language of every individual, especially Christians.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Another bill that I or EEO, that I am so
excited about is that Trump just pulled us out of
the World Health Organization.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
What does this look like for me? Like, I just
literally got goosebumps. How are you seeing this, Saubrey?

Speaker 8 (08:20):
Well, I listen, I loved it the moment that he
did it.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
Remember he did it back in twenty sixteen, you know
as well, so when he did it this time of wait, yes,
because again it's hurting us. You look at the lies
that doctor Fauci and others unfortunately told. And I don't
know about you, but because of my vocation, I have
friends across the country and in Europe as well. They

(08:45):
couldn't see a mom or Dad. Why because the laws
were going into this one big umbrella, the World Health Organization.
And according to Biden and the Democrats. And I always
say Biden and Obama because we know and I say
this with sincerity, we know that Biden was not mentally
there to do this, so we know.

Speaker 8 (09:03):
That Obama's regime was running this.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
So for Trump to come in and say, look, we're
not going to be guided by some foreign entity. We're
not giving them any money. We have the greatest doctors
right here in this nation. If there is any type
of pandemic or any type of scare, we have the individuals.
We are America, and we can resolve these issues ourselves

(09:27):
without giving these individuals who hate this nation, they hate us.
Why are we giving them money? For God's sake, this
is lunacy. So Trump gets it, he pulls us out.
Let's put those funds back into American institutions. We're medical
professionals here. We can do our own navigating and we'll

(09:48):
do real well. Kudos for Trump, and kudos for the
guys and girls around him that are help making this
country really sufficient within itself.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I have to share a funny story with you. A
couple of years ago, President Trump came to Austin, Texas.
There was a roundtable discussion and Ted and I were
part of that and we could talk with them, and
everybody went around the table and said something that was
a few years ago about the time that Biden was
giving up our sovereignty to the World Health Organization, and
I told my husband, I'm going to ask Trump about that.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
And it was coming.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Ted said something and then I was next, and right
before I said something, it was it reminded me of
Malania saying something to Baron. You know, just try to
be nice. Ted said that to me, said try to
be nice, and I'm like, I can, but I am.
I'm so grateful Aubrey. I'm so grateful for you. I

(10:44):
hope you can come back on again. Tell everybody how
they can find you on social media.

Speaker 7 (10:49):
Yeah, sure, so all of your guests, I'd love for
you to come visit us out at aubrey Shines dot
com or go on any social platform of course, Aubrey's
America and right here at Real America's Voice. Every Saturday,
three pm Eastern Standard time you can find us or
six a m. Eastern Standard time on Sunday morning.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
We're there. We've been cooking for a long time.

Speaker 7 (11:14):
Our numbers are phenomenal and I'm really appreciative of the support. Again,
love the work that you and your husband are doing.
Kudos to you, guys, and bless God. Blessed to both
of you.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
God bless you, Aubrey, Thank you so much.

Speaker 8 (11:27):
Sure, thanks Well.

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Speaker 2 (12:40):
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Speaker 6 (12:47):
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Speaker 2 (12:49):
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Speaker 6 (14:08):
But he's not fighting alone.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
He just tapped Robert F. Kennedy Junior to head Health
and Human Services. This power duo isn't just about making
America great again. They're making America healthy again with them
leading the charge.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
It's not just the future looks bright.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
The future looks amazing and it's going to get stronger, safer,
and healthier. Joining me now to break it all down
is Katie Talento, former healthcare official from Trump's first term
and the executive director at the Alliance of Healthcare Sharing Ministries.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Katie, great to have you.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Did I say your last name right? You did? Oh?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
You good?

Speaker 9 (14:51):
Good?

Speaker 6 (14:52):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
So Biden's healthcare policies were a disaster. Let's just say,
what were some of the biggest failures you saw under
his administration?

Speaker 9 (15:02):
Well, I think first of all, he has put his
administration into corrupt league and complicity with entities that he's
supposed to be protecting the public from. So when you
look at something like what's supposed to be an independent FDA,
for instance, or an independent CDC. Instead, these regulators are
protecting you know, the regulated entities, the.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Big pharma, the big AD.

Speaker 9 (15:25):
They're protecting them from us instead of protecting us from them.
And they're in league with them with this revolving door
back and forth between the regulators and the industry companies
where they're just hiring each other, and they're going soft
on these companies in order to prevent you know them
from losing their job track and their golden ticket when
they leave the government. It's completely corrupt and it's one

(15:47):
of the reasons why our health is just deteriorating more
and more, and half the country has a chronic illness.
A third of all children have a chronic illness. It's
just unacceptable. And the regulator, the regulatory capture is one
of the biggest problems.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
RFK Junior has been a fierce advocate for medical freedom.
I mean, why can't we make our own choices? Whatever
happened to my body?

Speaker 6 (16:09):
My choice? What are some.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Of his biggest targets from making America healthy again?

Speaker 9 (16:15):
Yeah, so I think he's going to take on the
food industry, and if I were him, I would start
with some low hanging fruit like food additives. I would
start with, you know, getting rid of the FDA persecution
of organic Amish farmers in Pennsylvania. I would start with
getting rid of some of the carcinogenic dies in foods

(16:36):
and some of these products from food companies that you know,
they make them completely differently in other countries, and yet
they're toxic carcinogenic in our country, so that's unacceptable.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I would start there.

Speaker 9 (16:49):
I certainly think that he needs to start investigating and
doing a post mortem on COVID and how the emergency
use authorizations were used and misused under COVID, and how
some industry captured outside advisors that are supposed to be
independent landed at their recommendations that we should be vaccinating
six month old babies who had zero.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Risk of COVID.

Speaker 9 (17:10):
I think there's a lot of post mortem investigations to
be done there, lessons learned for the next pandemic or
for the next.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Public health crisis.

Speaker 9 (17:19):
We really need to clean up what we can and
learn from that process so that it never happens again.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
You know, I keep thinking about when Hillary Clinton was
talking about Benghazi or trying to make excuses, and she
kept saying, what difference does it make if it happened
because of video or whatever. It makes a big difference.
Moving forward, we can't trust our government anymore. Now with
President Trump and JFK. Junior leading the charge, we can, thankfully.

(17:47):
What is your prediction for healthcare in America? Do you
have any insight on what we could expect.

Speaker 9 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean, first of all, I think it's important
that we do not trust the public health enterprise anytime soon.
You know, mister Kennedy, I hope will be confirmed quickly
and he will start to you know, implement the presidents
and his agenda. I think that's very important. But he
only has a handful of people. Even when he's completely
staffed up, he'll have a few dozen political appointees, presidential

(18:18):
appointees helping him, and the rest is all deep state bureaucrats.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
And I'm hopeful that many of them are patriotic.

Speaker 9 (18:25):
I'm hopeful that many of them, you know, went into
public health in order to serve and protect the public,
and you know, they accidentally became captured by corrupt the
Biden corrupt Biden administration. But you know, we're going to
have to be very, very cautious going forward when it
comes to the use of government power. The most important
thing is to have transparency. If we have greater transparency

(18:49):
about why decisions are made, how decisions are made, what
the scientific basis is for those decisions, then you know,
maybe we can start to rebuild some trust. But until then,
until we have a full counting of what happened during
COVID and even what's happening now with every regulation and
every drug approval and every vaccine approval, every decision that's made,
you know, they need to be answerable to the public,

(19:09):
and including with Freedom of Information Act requests. They need
to be answerable to Congress with many, many oversight requests.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
You know, the Biden administration.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Has a long history of just.

Speaker 9 (19:21):
Ignoring subpoenas, ignoring oversight inquiries, and ignoring foyas.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I mean, we've had to actually sue the FDA just
to get them.

Speaker 9 (19:29):
To release the what should be available publicly the Pfizer trials,
and they wanted to wait seventy five minutes I mean, sorry,
seventy five years as the wiser data.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
I wish it was.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Seventy five minutes that would be kind of understandable.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
But seventy five years to who and there. Do they
think we're idiots?

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I think they do.

Speaker 9 (19:50):
I think they think that we're not going to really
pursue this because so often, especially if you look at
Congress or or the Democrat owned media.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
If you look at the these institutions, they.

Speaker 9 (20:00):
Don't really hold these agencies to account and they have
a very short attention span. They just kind of move
on a few days later. But in this case, you
had outside entities like del big Tree and Aaron Siri
who were committed to suing these agencies and would not quit.
And I hope they still will continue to do that,
even with Secretary Kennedy at the Helm, especially with him

(20:21):
at the Helm because hopefully he'll be more cooperative to
their oversight inquiries.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Do you think you're going to have a role in
the Trump administration?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Not right now. I'm very happy staying married, seeing my
children's so.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
Not right now. You know. That's the thing. I have
a friend.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I don't know if you know anything about me or
my story, but I got sick and almost died from
toxic mold exposure.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
And it's this toxic.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Mold with the faulty building, the corruption they're covering up
for builders and insurance companies and not protecting don't even
get me started on it. But the toxic mold is
the asbestos of our time. It's being covered up. And
if I could put a good word in to talk
to RFK. In fact, I have a friend who said,

(21:07):
you know, I could probably speak to him for you.
And then they said, but you're going to have to
go to Washington give up your life. And you know
it takes a special person to do that, and I'm
grateful to have people like you to know that people
like you are and have been standing up and still
talking about it.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
That takes a lot. You can do it in the
comfort of your own home, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I think that's right.

Speaker 9 (21:30):
You know, at this point, we need everyone all in
in this army, this make America healthy again army. We
need moms, we need dads, we need teachers, we need doctors,
and so really there's there's no end to how you
can help. And certainly we need resources. The whole movement
needs resources. But just seeing a bunch of moms cheering

(21:50):
on mister Kennedy at his extremely disgusting and hostile confirmation
hearing this morning was so encouraging to have that room absolutely.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Feel with supporters.

Speaker 9 (22:01):
That's the kind of thing that makes a huge difference
and that really wakes up senators if they're thinking about voting.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
No, yeah, it was. It was so sad to see
all that. But Katie, thank you for joining me. How
can people find you and follow you and help you?

Speaker 9 (22:17):
Yeah, they can find me on LinkedIn at Katie Talento
or Twitter at Katie Talento.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
And what's next for you? If you're going to stay
at home, are you still going to be doing podcasts?
And if so, can you come back on again and
give us an update.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I'm happy to come on anytime. I do a lot
of things. I'm a naturopathic doctor.

Speaker 9 (22:35):
I advance the interest of healthcare sharing ministries, and I
help employers build innovative health plans.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
Well, we need to talk.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
We need to talk about I mean I've only got
a minute left, but do you have any protocol for
toxic mold and healing from that?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (22:51):
I mean the first thing is just getting your life
spiritually together right, spending time in nature, remembering your purpose
and and of course cleaning up your food.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Your body can resist a lot of things.

Speaker 9 (23:05):
It can withstand a number of toxic exploders, and it
can detox if it's getting the right fuel, if it's
getting the right input.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
That got intended for us.

Speaker 9 (23:13):
So that's where I always start, and then we go
for more detailed protocols thereafter.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
I love that. Well, Katie, thank you so much for
joining me.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I really appreciate it, and I hope you do come
back and give us an update.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Thank you so much. Appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
God bless don't go away.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
We have a lot more faith and freedom to come.
I'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Well, it's the opportunity need to be an outside because
it's the outside is to change the world.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
Relish the opportunity to be an outside because it's the
outside is to change the world.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
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Speaker 6 (25:19):
And fearless conversation collide.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
A man of conviction, in sight and a bit I'm
gonna try this a bit of a Scottish grit. I
didn't do that, Justice Duncan McGregor duncan welcome.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Thank you Tom so much for having me on. It's
amazing to be able to get this opportunity to talk
freely again, I know.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
Right, do not feel like celebrating.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
It's such a different air that's going on right now,
and I really appreciate you being here. And last week
we were talking about a few things that we're going
to get to in a minute, but let's focus right now.
We've been stuck on fossil fuels and inefficient energy for decades,
but Tesla technology could have changed everything. Do you think,

(26:08):
Duncan that we're finally at a tipping point for breakthrough
energy or are the elites.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
Going to keep it buried.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't think the leites are going to be able
to bury this. We're in a time of good prosperity.
Trump's going to change the game. And I've had a
theory since the last administration, because you know his connection
with his uncle and Tesla, that that's Donald Trump's go
to card, it's his Trump cards per se, that he's
going around and offering this form of energy to North Korea,

(26:37):
China and some of these other places, which is why
many of these areas like Russian and so forth are
playing ball, because that's the majority of what we spend
in an economy in a country. So this would be
one of the greatest cards that Trump could play. And
we know that the Tesla technology is effective because you
live in Texas. You know that there's Tesla towers right there,
not too far out of Dallas.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, I've actually used Tesla technology in something called the
quantum pulse And hopefully my producer can insert this after
a photo of me doing quantum pulse for healing. But
if Tesla's tech had been fully realized, duncan, what would
the world look like today?

Speaker 1 (27:18):
We would not be spending nearly as much we would
kind of it may be better than what we were
looking at in the fifties when life was just more affordable.
Mom could stay home, take care of the kid's father
could go to work, take care of college for his children,
make sure they had a home, make sure they were
all fed, go on vacation. Because we're going to be
cutting that out, not only from everything that we spend

(27:39):
our money on, for instance, the product of making cars,
building homes and everything, but also out of our immediate
function of the energy that we use at our home.
If this stuff is in the air, floating around and
no one's having to pay for it, that's going to
dramatically cut the cost of everything that we spend money on.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Can you imagine we've got an energy crisis and sky
rocketing costs and you know what's the real play here?
Is this just about control or is it something even bigger?

Speaker 8 (28:10):
Overall?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
It's about control? You know, the Rothchild, Rockefeller sources, pay Source,
all those those families that we dare talk about have
been basically making money off of us with the energy.
This the whole green scam oil in general, when we've
had the opportunity even for nuclear energy, which would be
more affordable, more effective, but they can't profit off of

(28:33):
things that is benefiting us where we're not paying large
amounts of money. So they did everything they could to
basically stifle Tesla from releasing that technology to begin with.
And if it is out there and that does goes around,
this completely changes the game for everybody. And I think
that we're at the point where the world's waking up
and they are playing more. They want to see what

(28:54):
we want to see as compared to the elites, and
the elites are losing their power.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
We just had a few a full cameo of your
dog I think walking in the corner.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Was that your dog?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yes, my dog, Sawwyn. He is with me all the time,
and he is he's my best friend.

Speaker 7 (29:10):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Okay, So speaking of the elites. Last week, I touched
on some controversy. I'm not going to call it conspiracy
because we know what they say about conspiracies.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
We're just ahead of the game. We're trying to let
you know.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
But let's talk about the Z Battalion and the Ukraine connections.
We keep hearing about corruption, corruption in Ukraine, but now
it's starting to look like every major crime, from human
trafficking to biolabs and money laundering, it's somehow linked back
to Ukraine. What's really going on?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
You said it exactly. Everything that we're watching right now
is going to end up leading into Ukraine. I'm talking
the COVID thing that we've been dealing with, the money laundering,
and it's been going on all the way back to
what Venman was doing, the corruption with Berez, which goes
back aways and if you look at the pardons that
Biden just put through, he postated him back to twenty fourteen.

(30:07):
If you look at the dates of that, twenty fourteen
was when Obama and the CI or should I say
that out loud, that Better Agency, that three letter agency
ended up taking over Ukraine because kazakhs Stan was one
of the strongholds at one point. Ukraine is kind of
a deep state stronghold now and the Azaw Battalion, this
stuff was kind of manifested from a long time ago.

(30:30):
I've in the great when they were trying to remove
the ksar As. The Kamara Kazaria mafia is what we
call it today. Every bit of this ties in and
I have a feeling that Ukraine is going to kind
of be the catalyst it starts bringing everything down.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Okay, the Z Battalion, most people have no idea what
it is, and let's talk about that. If you can
describe what it is, and then hopefully my producer can
bring up in just a minute Milania Trump's white and
black Z dress that I don't know, could it have
paid homage to them? But go ahead, what is the

(31:05):
not that one, Megan, it's another one.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
It's the white.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Dress with the black on it. But duncan tell us
what the Ze Battalion is.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Well, the Ze Battalion goes back, and I believe if
I've done it correctly, it goes back to the Russians
and trying to maintain that freedom and basically the freedom
that Russians had over in Ukraine at one point. And
it goes back to a connection with John F. Kennedy Junior,
which is the name that everybody talks about. We all
want them to be alive. Still, I don't know how
that works out, but it tells me that whatever the

(31:36):
Azov Is has been part of this for a really
long time, and none of us really understood what Azov
Battalion was until just recently when the Russia and Ukraine
War started and you started seeing these battalions go in.
I believe that they're basically an elite group of people
or elite an elite military group who's trying to maintain
that order remove deep state cabal assets out of Russia

(32:00):
in these other areas.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
And so there is another theory that John Junior, John F.
Kennedy Junior, and I'm going to have to send in
my photo. We were with Ted and I were with
John and his wife Caroline obviously years ago for George
magazine because Ted wrote for George Magazine and there's so
much controversy about his death and what's going on. But

(32:25):
he had a tattoo of a z of the Z
battalion logo.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Didn't he yes with the dagger and that was so
there was no question that Z wasn't standing for what
it is because the dagger with it was actually kind
of their call sign. So and like I said, he's
had that in his arm for years. He's been gone
as far as we've known, for what twenty years, And
he's had that on his arm before. So there's a

(32:50):
significance to it. And I probably wouldn't have been paying
attention to the AZOB as much as we are if
it wasn't for that tattoo on his arm.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
And then so Milani, I wore this dress, and I've
heard and I've studied some of her dresses. I think
that everything she wears has a meaning. Yeah, that's the dress.
Do you think that this dress this is that a
Z on her dress? Does it have anything to do
with giving us a message?

Speaker 6 (33:16):
Duncan?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I honestly believe it. There were some of the these
rabbit holes that I didn't really dig into at one time,
but we're getting to the point where it's coming a
little too obvious. And you know, even with the inauguration outfits,
you wore the first one and this one they're certainly
there's certainly coded signs. She's very much involved in what's
going on. And I think it's more to keep the anons,

(33:41):
the people that have been digging into this for the
last eight years, calm. They're like shout outs to us
to let us know things are still going on.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
And that first out that she had on with the
hat looked like the V for Vendetta.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
I didn't it.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
It also looked like an outfit that Princess Diana wore somewhat.
So first administration you had the Jackie Kennedy outfit and
then this one you had an outfit that was very
similar to Princess Diane. But I also thought be for Vendetta.
And we have to remember November November, the fifth of November.
It was when we actually voted this year.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yes, so much to unpack here.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Duncan tell everybody where they can find you find your
podcast and what's going on next for you.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Well, I am on I Kilted Christian, I'm on Rumble,
and I'm on Podbean. So if you if you just
want audio in a good chat Podbean, if you want
some video footage at the same exact show way at
the same time, go to Rumble and I also on
Rumble go under the name Pains Angels Too, which is
a collection of videos that I've been making over the
last eight years exposing what's been happening within our country,

(34:51):
within this world, and then very recently more about God
biblical and scriptural connections to what we're dealing with today,
which I find to be the most important aspect of anything.
Is Jesus Christ right now and everything.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
I do love.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I listen to your podcast often and you do often
use scripture to parallel what's going on right now.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
And I only have like ten seconds left, yes or no?
Do you think these are biblical times?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I absolutely one percent do. We are in biblical times.
Embrace the peace that we're going. We don't know where
it's going, but we are in a time of prosperity.
Pray to God, Thank God for everything you've had. Pray
for President Trump that he acts upon God's will.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
I agree. Duncan McGregor, the Kilted Christian, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
God, Bless God, Bless you. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
Don't go away. We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Weller's the opportunity to be an outside because it's the outside,
is to change the world.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Wellish the opportunity to be an outside because it's the
outside as you change the world.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. Okay,
we're going to try a little experiment. Close your eyes, seriously,
close your eyes unless you're driving. Take a deep breath,
and think back to when you were a kid and
you were running around. It's summertime and you're playing with
your friends all day long outside and you were hot.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
So what'd you do.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
You picked up the garden hose and took a drink
of water out of the garden hose. Okay, you could
open your eyes. It might have just been me and
my friends. But that's what we used to do. Sadly,
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(37:16):
not to fight crime, but to target innocent pet owners.
You heard me, right, pet owners and farmers. With the
help of radical animal rights groups like Peida, his team
has launched military style raids, seizing animals and slapping families.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
With unjust charges.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
How did Virginia become a dystopian nightmare for animal owners?
Who is really pulling the strings behind these attacks? And
is this part of an agenda to wipe out pet
ownership and farming altogether? Joining me now to expose what's
really going on is Heidi Kroskey, an advocate who's been
on the front lines fighting for the rights of animal owners.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Heidi, welcome, Thank you very much for having me.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
How do you what happened?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
How did Virginia go from being a free state to
a place where pet owners and farmers are treated like criminals.

Speaker 10 (38:12):
Well, we're not exactly sure, but PETA is based in
our state, and I think that has a lot to
do with it. In twenty fifteen, they started what is
known as the Animal Law Unit in our Attorney General's office,
and it is the first one like it in the country.
It was put in to supposedly eradicate dog fighting and

(38:33):
cock fighting, but they have evolved very quickly, and they're
attacking all kinds of innocent owners.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
You know, a funny story is not so funny.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
But years ago, when my son was about five, my
husband and I and our son Rocco, happened to be
writing in an elevator with Ingrid Newkirk, who was, oh, really,
I don't even know if she's still.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
Involved with data.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I don't follow that, but I remember that was a
hot topic back then. PETA was really going out and
about and really attacking people. And my husband said to her, so,
here's our son. You're telling me if my son is
in a river and drowning and a cat is drowning.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
Who are you going to say first? And she said, well,
I can't really answer that question. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
It's unbelievable what's going on these days, and they're targeting
pet owners. So let's get into that. What proof do
we have that the Attorney General and his.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
Team are working with radical groups like PETA.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Well, it's the way these cases begin.

Speaker 10 (39:40):
So PETE is not out on the street corner so
much picketing as they are providing information to the Attorney
General's Office. In the Natural Bridge Zoo case, PETA hired
a spy to go into the Natural Bridge Zoo and
work as an employee for months, and of course this
was on owns to the zoo, and he collected footage

(40:02):
and various documentation and then that was given to the
Animal Law Unit and was used as part of the
basis to come in and raid them. I mean, the
Mogenson's had the vet care, they had everything to back
up the wonderful care they were giving to their animals,
but that didn't matter. And when they raided the zoo,
the Animal Law Unit and the day or two following

(40:26):
went ahead and raided the local vet clinic.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
So they really are after.

Speaker 10 (40:30):
Everybody, and I think a lot of it has to
do with PEDA and the way they're using these spies.
But we also know that they are directly connected to
the Animal Legal Defense find I don't know if you
all are familiar with them, the ALDF. They're very similar
to PETA, but they're based in California, I believe, and
they are giving grant money somehow to the Attorney General's

(40:52):
Office for their prosecution.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
So I don't really know how all of this is
playing out.

Speaker 10 (40:57):
We're trying to get more information, but some of the
Animal Law Unit documentation that came out of the Mugenson
case talks about the Animal Law Unit grant funds, and
we want to find out what is exactly the source of.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
That PETA peta whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
It's not right And is this really about animal welfare
that they think that they're doing, or is the goal
to end pet ownership and small farming altogether.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Well, I think the goal is definitely to end ownership.

Speaker 10 (41:29):
If you go and sit in these cases, which a
lot of people don't have the time to do, but
if you go and you sit in and you listen,
and you watch the director of the unit, and you
listen to the way she's asking questions and the experts,
and I'm saying that with quotes that they put on
the stand, they're trying to criminalize something as simple as
parasites in an animal.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
There's a case of.

Speaker 10 (41:49):
Irena Barrett where her dog ate an object and they
use that to go after her and suppressed the knee
cropsy for a very very long time, which showed that
the had actually left an object in the dog.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
But that was suppressed till right before trial. And if
she had not, if she had taken a plea deal,
that would have never come to light.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
So they're using parasites, they're using accidents, they're using old animals.
You know, we all have animals that are in their
prime and are beautiful. But if you keep them and
love them for their whole life, at some point they
will get old and they will start to.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Deteriorate, just like a human.

Speaker 10 (42:26):
And right now, having an old animal is a liability
in the state of Virginia.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
Just this just blows my mind. I have two dogs
with arthritis. I have arthritis. Are they gonna come after
me and my dogs? This is well in Virginia.

Speaker 10 (42:42):
In Virginia, you would not be safe. I mean, it
doesn't matter how much you go to the vet. You know,
all the paperwork you have, None of that matters. If
they determined you waited too long, if they determined you
are cruel, it's just their word against yours. But they're
the ones with the power.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
So what are they actually They're going to come and
take your pets and then what which That's not good?

Speaker 6 (43:06):
That will absolutely it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 10 (43:09):
You might be safe where you are, but in Virginia,
I mean, nobody's safe. And I don't know if they
passed this along to you. But the story of Zeus
the tiger at Natural Bridge Thoo the white Tiger, He
had his attending vet that came to the raid and
talk to the raid team about all of the care
that he was being provided.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
They gave me the documentation.

Speaker 10 (43:32):
We put it on our Facebook page, the Virginia Animal
Owners Alliance Facebook page, where you can see the documentation
of his medical care in the days leading up to
the raid. She came in, she explained everything they were doing.
It wasn't good enough. They decided he had to be
euthanized right then. They wouldn't let his own vet do
the sedation. They would not let his caretaker and owner,

(43:54):
Gretchen do the hand sedation, the hand injection.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
They wouldn't allow that.

Speaker 10 (43:59):
So they they were the experts, they were the authority,
and they were going to be the ones to do
the sedation and the euthanasia. But it took them forty
eight minutes to kill this tiger. And it is just
it is mind blowing. We have a petition right now
if you go to our website. We have a petition
where you can sign. It's just horrific what's happening to

(44:19):
the animals and the citizens in the commonwealth and if
we're going to get help, and that's why I appreciate
you having us on here. We need a federal investigation
into this. The help is not going to come from
the state of Virginia. The governor knows about a lot
of these cases. People have begged him to step in
and he won't.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Well, Heidi, please keep in touch with me and let
me know what we can do. We should have you
also talking in my husband's podcast right here in no
Real America's voice. But we're going to help you with this.
We're going to help animals with this. Thank you so
much for speaking out, Heidi.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
Tell us one more time. Where people can find you.

Speaker 10 (44:58):
On our website, it's the Virginia It's Virginia Animal Owners
Alliance dot com, or you can find us on Facebook.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
Thank you, Heidi. Thank you for being bold and brave
and speaking out. God bless Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Okay, if you haven't already checked out my new book
Abundantly Well, it's available on Amazon right now it makes
a great gift.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
We got to be healthy so we can stand up and.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Fight the outrage this unbelievable overreach where they are killing pets.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Anyways, don't get me started.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I want to end on a good note, a happy note,
like I end every week on this show, and this
week is no different. So here's a moment to make
you smile.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
Take a look.

Speaker 10 (46:00):
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Speaker 6 (46:10):
H m.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Hmmmmmmmmmm mm hmmm.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
It's pretty nice you look. You look handsome.

Speaker 11 (46:31):
Oh, leave me alone, Leave me alone, Leave me alone,
leave me alone.

Speaker 8 (46:44):
Okay, so I love.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
You all right?

Speaker 8 (46:53):
Can you say your name? That was perfect?

Speaker 6 (46:57):
Horner?

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Why are you.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Trying to beat it up like that?

Speaker 8 (47:07):
I'm not you don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
All you said.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Oh you're my baby, and I love you, but you
cannot go turkey hunting with me.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Thank you guys so much for joining me. I really
appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
This show is making a difference in a lot of
people's lives, and I hope it's making one in yours.
Please share it because I am still shadow.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
Band on a lot of different platforms. Remember Esther four fourteen.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this,
God bless I'll see you next week.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside, because it's
the outside has to change the world.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
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