January 31, 2025 • 53 mins
STINCHFIELD TONIGHT JANUARY 31TH, 2025
SEGMENT 1:PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS DC PLANE CRASH INVESTIGATION WILL REVEAL WHAT HE ALREADY SAID
SEGMENT 2 LEFT VOWS NATION WILL END DUE TO MASS DEPORTATIONS
SEGMENT 3 TRUMP LANDS IN WEST PALM BEACH FOR 1ST TIME AS 47
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well, good evening, everyone, Welcome to Stinchfield. It appears there
were multiple screw ups leading up to this catastrophic event
that led to the death of nearly seventy people over
those icy waters in Washington, DC when that black Hawk
helicopter crashed into that American Airlines flight. There's new video
now you're looking at on your screen of how this
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helicopter slammed into this plane. This is from a different
angle and you could see there literally it looks like
there is no attempt to go up down miss this plane,
like out of nowhere, it just collides with that American
Airlines flight, leaving no one any chance for survivle. So
we are also getting confirmation that what we told you
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last night on this program is now being confirmed. You
may remember that I went and investigated the altitude of
the helicopter and we know that it was flying around
eleven hundred feet when it took off, flying down the Potomac,
all the while near the airport. It should have been
at two hundred feet, But we know just thirty seconds
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before the helicopter crashed into that American Eagle flight, it
was flying an eight hundred feet ultimately crashing into it
at two hundred and fifty feet. But I believe if
this helicopter was flying at the altitude it was supposed
to be flying at no higher than two hundred feet,
this crash never would have happened. So why was it
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flying at the altitude it was and where was the
air traffic controllers? There was no real sense of urgency
by the air traffic control This is the NTSB chairman
talking about the crash.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Is this one of the worst fears of the NTSB, Yes,
it is.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And it's actually something that I warned about before Congress
when I last testified on aviation safety, that this is
exactly our worst fear, and here we are investigating a
tragedy that we haven't seen in years.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, it could have been even worse because a day
before that fatal crash, there was another near miss the
exact same runway, the exact same situation. A helicopter and
a plane almost crashed into each other again a day before,
and another near miss just a few days before that.
So now there is a pause on helicopter flights, specifically
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military flights in that area as well. There should be,
But we also need to talk about the low staffing
levels of the air traffic control and why that would be.
We are now getting information that one of the air
traffic controllers actually left early, left his post approval to
leave his post, but left one air traffic controller doing
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the job of two. We're told this is somehow normal
inside Reagan International Airport in that air traffic control tower.
I don't know how you allow that to happen. Diversity,
equity and inclusion may be one of the reasons why
the staff of thirty is down to nineteen. And you've
got a class action lawsuit by potential applicants to air
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traffic control that were turned down. All potential white applicants,
including one who had a perfect score on his test,
not allowed to come in because Joe Biden and the
Democrats put such a premium and priority on having minority
applicants give them jobs. Here's a lawyer for those air
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traffic controllers.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So it used to be that they would score a
pre employment test and it would be based on merit.
And all of our clients passed to defining colors. Many
of them pass with one hundred percent on this test.
And the FA decided that the tool of air traffic
controller and applicants was too white, and so they flushed
that initial test and they adopted a biographical assessment, which
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you can already here as an ominous term for a air
traffic controller test.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And unfortunately our clients didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Pass that, and we allege that the air the FA
changed the test in order to cherry enter.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
The racial role.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So you see here it should be based on merit.
Isn't that what everybody wants? Yet President Trump knows something.
I believe this is why he's doubling down on diversity,
equity inclusion. So soon after this crash. Something was at
play here. We did not have highly qualified people either
in the cockpit or in the air traffic control tower.
(05:03):
Here's President Trump today.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
No, I think they'll do an investigation.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
It will probably come out the way I said it.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
I'd like to put it up front.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I'm so tired of listening to things happened to our
country and then people say.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
We'll do an investigation.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Three years later, they come up with a report that
nobody looks at, especially none.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
In all cases, can you do that? But in this case,
you know, you had.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
A helicopter that was the black Hawk was too high.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
It was above the two hundred limed by double shouldn't
have been there.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
And so true. So President Trump, I believe, is engaging
in a ropodope right now. The mainstream media is flipping
out over President Trump bringing up the idea of diversity, equity,
and inclusion. I believe that President Trump knows what was
going on, knows who was in the control tower or
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in the cockpit. We're getting word that one of the
families of the military members that died in the helicopter
do not want the name released. I can't tell you
why they wouldn't want their name released, but we know
that they don't. We shall see how that plays out
and if there's any reason for not wanting the name release,
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does it come back to DEI who knows. But again,
a lot of questions need to be answered. Now Again,
President Trump, I believe, is setting up the media, and
he's using Caroline Levin, who is continuing to do a
great job as his press secretary, to let the media
know what's important and what's not to the people, and
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especially inside the air traffic control towers across America.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
Listen, and you graduate from school and you're an air
traffic controller based on skill and merit, and then you
apply for a job and you're forced to fill out
a biographical questionnaire asking you the color of your skin
and asking you where you're from in details that aren't
relevant at all to the description. I think that deteriorates
the morale of people in this industry.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, I can tell you firsthand that I had a
number of air traffic controllers either reach out to me
directly after last night's program or through friends of theirs
after last night's program. All of them wanted me to
know that we and President Trump are onto something talking
about low morale and diversity, equity and inclusion bringing down
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the ability of air traffic controllers to actually do their job.
So we're onto something there. So the Left wants to
make this about race, but we know it should never
be about race. In fact, she talked about the question
that asks you what color you are? Why should that
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even be on the application? In fact, you ought to
leave it off because I don't care whether you're black
or you're white. Here's how Caroline Livitt put it.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Are flying on an airplane with your loved ones, which
every one of us in this room has, Do you
pray that your plane lands safely and gets you to
your destination, or do you pray that the pilot has
a certain skin color.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I think we all know the answer to that question.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
And as President Trump said yesterday, it's common sense.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's absolutely common sense, and it may just be a
little inside knowledge. We shall see right in the end, though,
we just want the best. And this goes to all
agencies across all aspects of our government. I think all
of you are like me. Could you really care less
what color somebody is. This goes for the FBI, the CIA,
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it goes to the Department of Education. Just do your
job and do it well, that's all we care about. Well,
joining me now, retired FBI agent Steve Gray is with us. Steve,
welcome to the program. Oh Steve, you hear me. We
do not have Steve yet. Let's see if we can
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get Steve back. If we have them, folks, if you
can in the control room, talk to me and let
me know if he is able to hear us. If
he is not, then we will move on. Do we
have Steve? As we test his audio? There? What was that?
No Steve yet? Okay, So as we look at what's
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going on here, folks, we're going to talk to Steve
about one the investigation that has to go on into
diversity equity inclusion that also happens inside the FBI. Let
me bring back in Steve Gray now, Steve, welcome to
the program. Sorry about the technical difficulties there, but we're
happy to have you on with us.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Thank you, thank thanks for having me. I appreciate it
absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I don't know if you could heard me leading up
to this, but diversity equity and inclusion quite possibly playing
a role in this. We shall see if that's what
it is. I think President Trump may know something. I
think he might be doing the old ropodope to the
media on this one. But before we get into that,
From an FBI perspective, what is happening right now with
this investigation into this crash. I would imagine all aspects
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are being looked at. Steve.
Speaker 9 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The FBI is going to partner with the FAA and
Department of Transportation.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
They're going to look into this.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They're gonna take over a lot of the leads that
need to be done, a lot of the questions that need.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
To be answered.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
The FBI is going to go out and do a
lot of interviews for them, and it's going to be
a group effort to try to get get this solved
as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
All right, So what are some of the possibilities here?
I mean, do you think criminal action would be looked
at here? Do they go in with an open open
eyes to every aspect from accident to criminal Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Absolutely, They're going to look at everything, including the pilot
of the helicopter, his emotional state, what he was doing
prior to the flight, what he you know, what he
was looking at in you know, in his social media accounts.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
And on the internet as.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, and they're going to take all that into account
and then determine whether or not that this is either
an accident or this wasn't intentional.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
All right. You worked inside the federal government for a
long time. Let's turn the diversity, equity and inclusion we
saw under the Biden administration. This went into warp speed.
Has it affected the FBI in your opinion after leaving
that agency and looking back on it now.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, absolutely it has. It's really unfortunate, but there's a
lot of individuals who have risen to the top through
DEI processes that.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Don't belong there.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
As a matter of fact, a lot of those individuals
probably don't belong in the FBI. But the FBI lowered
its standards, and they had been lowering their standards from
twenty ten through twenty twenty. A lot of individuals that
I know in the FBI who were on the applicant squads,
who were doing the interviews for new applicants, were telling
me that the FBI had lowered their standards and they
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had thrown out a lot of the rules that candidates
needed to follow in order to get into the FBI.
A lot of that had been just been tossed out.
And look what we're getting is instead of all of
the A candidates, we were getting b's and c's. And
now they're out there in the field offices, investigating crime
and climbing to the top of the ladder in FBI
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executive management. And it's going to become a real problem
in the future for the FBI.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Do you think, Steeve, this was not just the FBI
about other agencies as well. We've heard stories about air
traffic control efforts, stories about other agencies.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Oh yeah, this is a concerted effort, especially by the
Biden administration, to clean house.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
They wanted this DEI in there.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
A lot of the Democratic senators and the Democratic representatives
wanted this DEI in there. They didn't care what the
candidate's background was. They just only cared about skin color
and that's it. And nobody cares about that. When I
was working in the FBI, nobody cared what the other
person looked like. We've just wanted to make sure that
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the person was competent. That's the most important thing. Is
that person competent for the job.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
All right, let me play a clip from you from
a former colleague of yours, Kyle Sarafin. He was a
former FBI agent talking about a mass exodus inside the FBI,
some of them leaving on their own, some of them
being told they need to go before the next FBI
director comes in. Hopefully, Cash Pattel, let's roll a cup thirteen.
Speaker 10 (13:37):
What we saw was the downfall of twenty five special
agents in chars of field offices around the FBI. Again,
they're only fifty five total, and all but thirty of
them lost their flipping jobs. As well as six executive
assistant directors have been walked out of the seven. The
way the FBI worksharw works as follows. There's a director,
there's a deputy director, and then there's an associate deputy director.
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That's the one, two, and three at the FBI. Below that,
there are seven branch heads known as executive assistant director,
and six of those seven got fired today.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So this is literally the leadership of the FBI gone.
Had you heard the same.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
News, yeah, absolutely, And you know, going all the way
back to three years ago when you interviewed me, I
was calling for the FBI to purge executive management because
executive management is just a waste. It's basically a nepotism
dry for individuals to get as high as they can
through friends of friends, and then they just sit there
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and they do nothing. And that's a problem because you know,
we have there's a lot of levels within the FBI
right now. Sometimes agents can't go out in the field
until at least they get four or five different approvals
to get it to have to complete an interview. It's
absolutely ridiculous. Cut these agents loose and let them go
out there. But the problem is is that FBI executive
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management doesn't want to the boat because these individuals are
sitting there. They're administrators, they're not investigators. And they're looking
for that big sweet job on the outside after the FBI,
and that's all they're looking for once they get to
executive management, So they don't want to rock the boat.
When's the last time we turned turn onto television and
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we saw a big FBI story that was positive?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Almost never And we need to get back to that.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We need to get back to these big FBI raids
of organized crime, these big FBI raids of counterintelligence and suspects.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
We need to get back to all of that and
we have not had that in years in the FBI.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
All right, last question for you, So we see all
of these major heads inside the FBI and top leadership
being flushed out. Do you think it's imperative that Cash Patel,
if he's an extra FBI director, I hope he is,
goes outside the agency to fill those leadership roles. Do
you take some from inside, all from inside? How would
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you like to see this play out?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You know, I would like to see the outsiders come
in and clean house. There's no reason that we have
to have somebody from the inside in those roles.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
They're just administrative roles.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And you know, it's really sad, but these individuals that
are getting fired, and these individuals that are being forced out,
you know, they're getting this huge golden.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Parachute when they leave.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Some of these individuals are going to be making over
eighty thousand dollars in taxpayer funds as they walk out
the door with that big fat check to their next job,
and it's really disgusting.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Well, you've been a great voice blowing the whistle on
what goes on inside there really for the sole goal
of making it better and the American people safer. And
for that, s De Gray, I always thank you and
I appreciate you coming on the program as always, sir.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Thanks, thanks Grant, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You have a good night, absolutely you two and a
good weekend as well. All right, So next up, how
do we change all this? Well, President Trump needs his
people to get through. One is cash Battel, the hopefully
next FBI director. Right, they despise this guy, but I
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do think of the next three picks, which would be
Tulsi Gabbert for Director of National Intelligence ORFK for helping
human services in cash Betel, I think cash Battel has
the best chance of getting into the office, even though
they want to hammer him over things. Here's Clobus Senator
Klobashar trying to do just that to Cash.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Did you say that the FBI headquarters should be shut
down and reopen as a museum of the deep state?
Speaker 11 (17:44):
I stood with them here in this country, in every
theater of war we have, I was on the ground
in service of this nation. In any accusations leveled against
me that I would somehow put political bias before the
constitution are grotesquely unfair. And I will have you reminded
that I have been endorsed by over three hundred thousand
law enforcement officers to become the next director of the FBI.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Let's ask them. I would also say, yes, he did
say that, and he said it right here on this
program on numerous occasions, and it is what the American
people want. Klobashard doesn't want her because he's going to
shake the whole apple cart up. Well, I want to
bring in with me now, former Trump White House official
and executive director of Confirmed forty seven, Cameron Kenzie is back. Cameron, welcome,
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Thanks for having me. Grant, all right, what do you
think of my assessment that I think Cash may have
the easiest road to confirmation? And I think Tolsi Gabbard
may have the hardest. Feel free to disagree, but where
do you fall on those three?
Speaker 12 (18:48):
I completely agree. I mean Patel was grilled like a
criminal for defending due process, which is absolutely ridiculous. The
FBI is a disaster, It's a mess, and people know this.
It's been weaponized again. Its conservatives, parents, et cetera. So
of course, I mean, the same crowd that cheered on
the Russia hoax doesn't want Patel anywhere near reforming it.
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But I have to agree with you. My eyes are
on Tulsi right now. She made it clear our intelligence
agencies have been politicized. You know, Gabbard represents a real
break from the failed intelligence establishment that gave us a
rock mass surveillance election interference. You know, Trump picked her
because he wants to change how DC operates. But really
the question we should be asking Grant is will the
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GOP let him. I mean, we've already seen pushback from
Susan Collins and Jerry Morin against Tulci Gabbard. So I
Republicans block reform minded nominees like Tulci Gabbard. You know,
they're not just opposing Trump, they're citing with the deep
state operatives who spent years undermining him, and that to
me is just completely unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know, I'm with you, Cameron, for everything the President
Trump has been through, for his total commitment to trying
to make America great again and almost losing his life
because of it. These Republicans ought to give President Trump
who he wants to serve him in his cabinet. You've
talked about Jerry Moore and the Senator. Let me play
this clip for you. Cut nineteen guys and then get
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your response.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
I want to make certain that in no way does
Russia get a pass in either your mind or your heart,
or in any policy recommendation you would make or not make.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Senator, I'm offended by the question because my sole focus, commitment,
and responsibility is about our own nation, our own security,
and the interests of the American people.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You know, he's literally taken Democrat slash fake news media
talking points and pushing that. I mean, I'm embarrassed for
him more than anything else.
Speaker 12 (20:56):
Oh absolutely, I mean, these hearings aren't about qualifications. I
mean Tulsi's qualifications speak for themselves. She's worn the uniform
for twenty two years. She's served in Congress in a
civilian role, in a military role, right. I mean these
were just about the establishment trying to get the grip,
their grip on power. It's on full display. I mean
during this time, President Obama had twenty two nominations confirmed
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already and Trump has eight. So these nominations they're really
just threatening their monopoly on intelligence, law enforcement, health policy,
like we see with RFK Junior as well, and that's
why they're facing so much resistance. I do agree she
should have been offended by the question. It's a ridiculous question,
and these people need to be held accountable.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
You know. It's amazing because even for Republicans, there are
tough questions you can ask her, which I think would
be legitimate questions. Hey, you're in the Democrat caucus. You
voted for Nancy Pelosi, I don't know how many times
to be Speaker of the House. Why should you believe you? Now,
that's a legitimate question, and in fact, it's a question
I've asked her on this program and she still came
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back another time to continue to answer these questions, which
is why I can say I believe her sincerity. I
didn't always believe her sincerity, Carameron, but I do after
talking to her personally one on one here on the radio,
they're legitimate questions for Republicans to ask, not this we're
gonna help Russia? Are you going to help Russia? I mean,
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that's just nonsensical. I'll give you the last word on this.
Maybe RFK your prediction for him.
Speaker 12 (22:26):
Yeah, absolutely, And I want to go back to just
say I think all these nominees all they want is
to promote transparency and be a direct reflection of President Trump.
President Trump has been the most transparent president of all time.
And then I'll go to RFK Junior. You know, love
him or hate him, He's exposed the deep ties between
big pharma government health agencies. You know, the Senate doesn't
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want him as HSS Secretary because he's going to ask
uncomfortable questions about vaccine safety, government overreach, pandemic mismanagement. You know,
it just threatens the massive governmental and industrial complex has
been profiting off of fear, compliance and control for the
past couple of years. The people who were pressing him
as hard as they were, the people like Senator Ron Whiten.
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He's taken one point five million from big Pharma. Bennett
has taken one point five million, Warren has taken five
point two million, Bernie Sanders one point four million, and
then there's others as well. This is all available on
Open Secrets.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
You can go see it for yourself in.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Fact check me.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
But these people aren't looking out for the American people.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
These people are looking out.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
For their donors, and they need to be held accountable
as well. I do think, you know, President Trump has
put together the Unity Party RFK Junior Tulci Gabbard coming
over and being with us, you know, as we enact
the America First Agenda, and the only way to do
that is to confirm these cabin cabinet nominations so that
way we can press forward and enact the people's mandate.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He absolutely deserves them to be confirmed, and they deserve
to be confirmed. There's no there's no reason they shouldn't
be confirmed, and will be fun to watch them all
operate and watch the left go crazy over it. Confirm
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a great weekend, Cameron.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Thanks grit all right.
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Trump Era. No obligation, only information. The Left truly thinks
the country will cease who exist if mass deportations continue.
More on that next. Welcome back everyone. I want to
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warn you of a fake news narrative going around that
somehow Ice agents are going to be storming into schools,
storming into churches, storming into your workplace to arrest every
single illegal alien there and sweep them up and check
the papers. This is not happening. Only targeted enforcement is happening.
But the Left despises the fact that they're going after murderers, rapists,
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drug dealers, pimps, sex traffickers because it means America is
going to be a safer place. They don't want you
to think that they want everyone to live in fear.
So you get things like this from Steve Soberoff. This
is the guy who's in charge of the LA rebuilding process.
The rebuildings are after the wildfires. Listen to this Kakamamie comment.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Construction costs are going to be high because the demand
for commodities is going to be high. The demand for labor,
whether or not half our labor gets deported before this happens,
is going.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
To be high.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
So we're going to be recruiting people from around the
country to come, you know, and live at Motel Sixes.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Force is going to be deported unless half your labor
force or all MS thirteen and trend de Aragua gang members,
they'll be deported. But half the labor force in Los
Angeles is not getting deported. They may need to be,
but they're not going to be. All of it is
designed to dupe you. I want to bring in. Now,
former Border Patrol agent and author of the upcoming book Treason,
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JJ Carroll is with us. JJ. Welcome to the program.
Thank you for having me, Grant.
Speaker 14 (26:55):
And right off the bat, the premise that that man
is saying is a lie, is an absolute lie. I
went back in when I began to write my book Trees,
and and did research. I went only back to twenty
eleven and reread my thesis, my master's thesis on the
work site of illegal aliens, and I came back to
present day. There has been no significant change. And do
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you know the number one segment of our economy that
has the largest percentage of the workforce of illegal aliens.
Do you know what that is? It's construction. Just what
that man just said. But you know, it's not fifty percent,
it's not seventy five percent, it's not even twenty five percent,
it's not even fifteen percent. It's thirteen percent of the
construction population's illegal aliens. We have been lied to our
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whole lives, Grant, for decades and decades to believe that
if I have a construction site that has one hundred
workers and only eighty seven show up my construction site
in my business crumbles. That's the lie. The greatest economy
in the world has ever seen, hinges on illiterate illegal aliens.
When I say it out loud, it sounds stupid, and
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it sounds stupid because it is.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, you know, they're pushing this and a lot of
people are getting this fake message that somehow this is
going to happen. They'll be the Ice agents, will be
storming the workplace and storming schools. My son goes to
an inner city school in Dallas. It's about sixty seventy
percent Hispanic, and they started spreading the rumor that ice
was outside and going to be coming in, to the
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point where they had to send a message home to
parents that Ice was not at the school. Now they're
doing this for a reason. They're doing this to scare kids,
to scare communities and all those things. Now, I understand
everybody needs to be looking over their shoulder if they're
here illegally. But this is not Tom Holman's operation, is it. No,
it's not.
Speaker 14 (28:47):
He's going after the hardened criminals, but everyone else that
gets caught up in that web, that web that's illegal aliens,
they're getting removed too. Can we just stop as a
nation just for a second and say, why don't we
take of our American brothers and sisters and we'll worry
about the fears and trepidations of illegal aliens that have
committed crimes in America and they're gone. Can we just
(29:09):
get on the base level of that and to go
back to further about the lie of that.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
We need illegal aliens.
Speaker 14 (29:15):
Do you know the other lie that we're told, well,
your hamburger will cost thirty seven dollars if we released them.
Do you know how many people work in the service
industry that are illegal aliens? The percentage is seven percent,
Grant seven percent.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
This is all a lie.
Speaker 14 (29:30):
I've been talking about this since I wrote my thesis
and into writing books. The Republicans, the media, and the
Rhinos and the left, crazy left, they just lie to us.
The idea, Grant that America needs foreign nationals to survive
is a lie.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
It's always been a lie. Hey, let me ask you
to keep on this topic of schools, just to let
everybody's fears rest easy. And I want your opinion. E've
been in law enforcement for so long. I said to somebody,
I said, if there is a violent murderer, a gang
member who's seventeen, sixteen years old, that's a junior in
high school someplace, and this is a violent dude. The
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last thing ice agents are going to do are go
storming into English class someplace with a bunch of students around.
I would imagine they would tail him, follow him until
there's a spot where they can take him, not putting
everybody else in danger. Am I right on this? You're
absolutely right.
Speaker 14 (30:28):
Or you bring him into your office and say, hey,
you got to go see the principal or something, okay,
and you walk into a room here, I am, you're
hooked up. But the probability that happened is almost zero.
They're going to trail him. Once he gets out of
school and goes to his work side or wherever he does,
he goes home, they'll be waiting for him and take
care of it. And that's a great point that you're making, Grant,
(30:49):
because I want your audience to understand too that when
they these illegal aliens cross, they lie about their age.
So you have men, men that are in their twenties
that are in your high schools across America.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Absolutely, because why.
Speaker 14 (31:02):
Would you if you were a drug dealer and you're
twenty two years old, and you're believed to be eighteen seventeen.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Why wouldn't I go?
Speaker 14 (31:09):
I have all my customers right there at my fingertips.
They're doing this in America, and it's sad we've allowed
this to happen, say the least yep.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
We sure have one more clip for you. This is
Pete haig Seth on Fox and Friends talking about going
after the Cartels, and before I get too close to
the break, let me play it and get a quick
comment from you on the back end of this.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
As a Secretary of Defense, are you permitted now to
go after them in Mexico or wherever they are?
Speaker 16 (31:38):
Brian, I don't want to get ahead of the president,
and I won't. That's ultimately going to be his decision.
But let me be clear, all options will be on
the table if we're dealing with what are designated to
be foreign terrorist organizations who are specifically targeting Americans on
our border and we're finally securing our.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Boarder, JJ, you and I have talked about this. I'm
a firm believer we should declare war on the cartels
and go after them inside Mexico. You think he was
sending any kind of a message. There are they tipping
their cards at all? I think he has to go
in there.
Speaker 14 (32:14):
One hundred and fifty thousand Americans die of overdoses every year,
tied to about sixty seventy percent of those overdoses are
tied to fentanyl. These are savages on the south side.
You cannot fight them from Afar. You're going to have
to send in your special forces and overwhelm them and
be ready for a war. Not some little shoot handgun
and maybe a stabbing. You're talking about surfaced air missiles,
(32:38):
everything you can imagine that they have in Afghanistan. That
is what's happening across the border. One hundred and fifty
of our brothers and sisters die every year because of it.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Well, let's hope he does. I think it'll save American
lives if we do wigs that war on the cartels.
JJ Carroll, it's great having you on, former Border Patrol agent.
We appreciate that service. And let me tell people about
your book, Trees and Comes out on Fit. You are
a eighteenth and examines the Biden Administration's destruction of American sovereignty.
All right, we are awaiting the landing of air Force
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one in West Palm Beach, Florida. It's President Trump's first
trip back to West Palm and I believe mar a
lago since he has become the next president of the
United States forty seven. So we'll get some video of that.
If he speaks to the gaggle on the tarmac, we
will take that live for you as well. So stick
here as we await President Trump's arrival in West Palm Beach, Florida.
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it is dark, but I believe that is Air Force
one and making its landing. Is that correct, guys, I
can't see the screen there. It is Air Force one
making its landing in West Palm Beach. Now, let me
tell you something. This has been a long time coming.
(34:38):
We have all seen Trump Force one making its landing
in West Palm Beach. I fly in and out of
that airport a lot, and Trump Force one is a
steady fixture there on the tarmac. Do you know how long? Well,
of course you do. Four years. I've been waiting to
see Air Force one back on the tarmac in West
(34:59):
pom Beach. This has been a long time coming, and
we're grateful for it. So as we watch this and
we think of all the things that President Trump has done,
somebody said to me yesterday when he was talking at
one of his news conferences, Boy, he sounds tired. I said, well,
of course he sounds tired. How is he not going
to sound tired? Think of what this man has been doing.
(35:22):
He's been jet setting himself all across the country. He's
working to all hours of the night. He's signed I
don't know how many executive orders now two hundred, it's
going to be pushing three hundred. I think by the
time he gets he gets done over the next couple
of weeks, and you better believe he's tired. So here's
what I hope. This is my prayer for President Trump.
(35:43):
When he gets to mar A Lago, which will be
moments away, he gets some rest. Now the guy doesn't sleep,
don't expect them to sleep, but let him get a
little rest and chill out for a little bit. I'm
sure he will play some golf before heading back to Washington,
d C. Me. But make no mistake about this, And
even when Joe Biden was president, I did acknowledge this.
(36:07):
You are always president now, not so much for Joe Biden,
who had somebody else pulling his strings, but for any
other president. When they leave the White House, it's not
like you're off duty. It's not like you're off the job.
The calls in the middle of the night still come,
the briefings still come every morning, every afternoon, and the
stress of the job still comes. And it takes a
(36:29):
toll not only on yourself, but it takes a toll
on your family, and it takes a toll on those
around you. So just because he's down there, I don't
think that he's going to get a lot of rest.
But it's nice to be home, even though he's been
in Washington, d C. Now only what is it a week?
Is it a week or two weeks? As time goes
by so fast for me now how fast this has
(36:51):
been going. But it is great to see Air Force
one back in West Palm Beach. Now this will have
a huge effect on air travel inside in and out
of West Palm. Anytime a president lands at any airport
around the country, it certainly has a huge effect on traffic.
The nice thing about the West Palm Beach Airport it
(37:13):
is not far from mar A Lago. There is basically
a direct run onto the highway. You get off at
one exit and you're over a bridge and he's home.
So though traffic is affected for that, this is not
a major city like Los Angeles or New York or Dallas.
This is a smaller city, so the effect is less,
(37:35):
albeit a big effect. But I can tell you this
tonight at mari Alago, you are going to have every member,
every one of their guests that are lucky enough to
be there to have dinner tonight on the terrace. They
will be eagerly awaiting this man, and I hope the
video emerges of what that looks like when he arrives,
(37:58):
because it will be a a thunderous applause for this man.
He is obviously beloved at his own club, just like
he is just about everywhere he goes now in the
United States. But it will be a special scene there tonight,
and it is very different now. Really, the chain started
once he won the election to the security at Marilago,
(38:21):
which is it doesn't get any tighter than that. Even
when he was president as forty five, I don't remember
the security being as tight as is now at Marilago,
and he deserves it. So many people want this man killed,
they really do. So I think what we should do
(38:42):
is we're going to go to break and then we'll
come back. It takes a we blue break. Okay, Well,
that plane is going to park and will await President Trump.
It looks like it's pulling into place. The media is
going to have to off, and it's going to take
a little while for him to get out here. I'm
(39:03):
wondering if we have our next guest ready, okay, we
do so. With that, I would like to bring in
a very good friend of mine, which is a little
bit different segment than we planned on doing, but we
can take us through this. My buddy Gordon Chang is
with us. He is the author of a new book
and I can't wait to read and I haven't yet.
It is plan read China's Project to destroy America, and boy,
(39:28):
this has been going on for a while. But Gordon Chang,
welcome to the program. Congratulations on the new book that
has come out, and welcome my friend.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Thank you so much, Grant. It's great to be on
your ship, so thank you well.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Absolutely. I was going to ask you about Deep Seek,
and we may still have a chance to talk a
little bit about that. But as President Trump comes into
position here, I can't help but notice, Gordon that China,
besides the Deep Seak announcement, seems to have been quieter
over the last couple of weeks with some of the
dire that we're used to, and I do think the
(40:03):
Deep Seek was a way to hit back in America.
What are your thoughts on that assessment.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
I think you're absolutely right, you know, with the exception
of the release of deep seeks Model R one on
January twenty China's actually been very quiet and there's been
very few provocative actions in his peripheral waters, and I
think that that is a a recognition that they can't
take Trump on right now. So you're spot on on that.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
What does it do that President Trump is now back
talking to President she how Asijinping? How often do you
think they will talk and how important are those conversations.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
I would actually hope that he wouldn't talk to c
Driving at this particular time. I think that President Trump
needs to impose those costs on China that has been
talking about. Once he does that, then he creates an
incentive for the Chinese to deal with the United States
and with President Trump in good faith. But obviously, anytime
you have something about the relations between the United States
(41:11):
and China, it's critical because the Chinese right now are
doing things that are not only assaulting our country, but
they're assaulting almost everybody else's countries as well. So this
is a point where sigm Ping is lashing out. He's flailing,
he's got an economy that's falling apart, and so this
is a precarious moment for the world all right.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
As we see President Trump's Air Force one pull up
to where he will disembark the plane in West Palm Beaches,
he heads to Mary Lago. I'm fascinated by this Gordon
because President Trump is the guy who likes to talk
to people, even his enemies. Lucky even went to North Korea.
If President Trump asked you, your advice to him would be,
(41:50):
do not call Jijingping. Is that right?
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Yeah, it would be don't call him, you know, make
sigm Ping call President Trump, because that puts Cjen Ping
in the inferior position. Sijan Ping's diplomacy is to intimidate everybody.
He loves it when people go to Beijing. He loves
it when people try to get in contact with him.
And we know that because Chinese propaganda all the time says, well,
(42:15):
you know so and so leader of country X, he
called us and he wanted to come see us. So
clearly we shouldn't be doing that because right now we
hold all the cards, and I think Sigean Ping's in
a very difficult position. He needs our market. His only
way to rescue his country is to sell more to Americans,
and that means President Trump can actually close the US
(42:38):
market with tariffs and makes sigen Ping bank.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
All right, So speaking of Jijingping and what he likes
to do, and he likes to cause chaos. So I
told you i'd ask you about deep Seek. Deep Seek
is the AI model that rocked the US markets, especially
when it came to the chip makers like Nvidia, Broadcom TX,
all these tech companies that just plummeted on Monday morning
(43:04):
when this announcement had come out that they can make
the chips cheaper, they can do it with less energy,
they can operate AI at a level that the United
States can't even compete with. That day, Gordon Chang I
came out and I said, to use President Trump's term
bull You know what, I don't believe them. I think
they're bluffing on this.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
You know you're right about that. We know that the
AI is really good and better than ours because it's
open source. But that's not the end of the story.
First of all, the only they talk about spending only
six million dollars to produce this model R one that's impossible.
And also the timeframe is impossible. Deep Seaks started business
(43:47):
in July twenty twenty three. They needed much more time
than that, and we know that they actually distill as
a technical term, that's when a large language model like
deep Sea uses another large line guage model to train itself.
They use chat GPT of open Ai. They did that
in violation of open AI's terms of service. In other words,
(44:09):
they stole their model from the United States, and that
means that their goal, I mean, what they did was
much less impressive. So you're right about that too.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
All right, So, and folks at home or what we're
watching is President Trump getting ready to get off of
Air Force one and head to Mari Lago on West
Palm Beach's first trip back there President Trump. And I
don't think this is a coincidence, Gordon, that he becomes president,
then he announces this huge partnership with soft Bank and
(44:41):
the Japanese bank, and China and Japan don't have the
greatest of relationships. And then lo and behold, we just
get this announcement. Now there's talk that Deepseek has fifty
to sixty thousand stolen Nvidia chips that allows them to
do what they do. Do you believe that assessment?
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Yeah, I don't know about the exact number, but they
do have Invidia chips that are under US sanctions, and
you know, we also know that the release of this
model are one what coincided with the Chinese Communist Party
propaganda blitz about the futility of American sanctions. So I
think that this was run by the from the top
of the Communist Party to try to convince the United
(45:25):
States to lift those sanctions. And by the way, R
one was actually released on January twenty, which is the
day that the United States changed management. So I think
all of this is a big publicity blitz to really
affect the way that we deal with China.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Do you think they knew it would have the effect
that it? Were they happy? I should say, I know
they wanted it to affect the markets. Were they happy
it did it as much as they did or did
they expect more?
Speaker 5 (45:54):
I don't know the answer to that question. But you know,
one of the things the Communist Party does is try
to injure America in companies, and so clearly they took
They got that result because Nvidia itself lost about six
hundred billion dollars of market value, almost eighteen percent of
its total value, and as you pointed out, other tech
(46:14):
companies also got hit when people started focusing on this.
So really, what we're talking about is an attempt to
injure the American tech sector, and at least temporarily, they
did a good job of that. Now the markets are recovering,
people are starting to talk about how that this announcement
was not as good as it appears. But you know,
(46:34):
they did a really big number on us.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, yeah, they sure did. As we wait for President
Trump to get off of Air Force one, if you
were able to sit down with President Trump and give
him your best advice about China, what we should be
doing as the greatest nation in the world America to
handle China. What would be first on your list to
be telling President Trump? Now?
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, he said, that's his favorite word the dictionary.
The other thing I would say is related, and that
has enforced the Terrifact of nineteen thirty, which prohibits the
importation into the US of goods made with forced slabor,
because all of China's green products and almost many of
its other products are made with forced labor of uigers, cossacks,
(47:20):
and other minorities in conditions that actually finance genocide.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Gordon, I'm going to interrupt you and as we watch
President Trump get off of Air Force one the first
time in West Palm Beach. Is the forty seventh president
of the United States. You know, if it was any
other president, going home isn't the biggest thing in the world.
But everything that has happened to this man that marri
Lago has become basically White House South. For four years
(47:50):
he was operating as a leader in Palm Beach there
at that beautiful place of his And so he's home
after being small born in what ten days ago, nine
days ago? I get or no, what is it eleven
days ago, eleven days and eleven days ago exactly, and
welcome home some much needed rest, I'm sure for him.
(48:12):
Gordon Chang, Oh.
Speaker 5 (48:15):
Yes, I mean he's had the most productive initial period
of any American president, you know, certainly in our lifetimes.
With all those executive orders, with the announcements, he's changed
the world. I mean he changed the world when he
was President Olek before he took the oath of office.
He certainly has continued that with this lurry of executive
orders which have just basically changed everything for the better.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Do you think and now I don't look at people
like Jijingping and Vladimir Putin as men who fear very
many people. Do you think Jijingping fears Donald Trump?
Speaker 5 (48:51):
Yes, and for a lot of reasons. You know, this
goes back to April twenty seventeen when Sidrin Ping went
Tomorrow logo, you know, over that piece of most beautiful
piece of chocolate. K Trump stood up and said he
had just launched fifty nine missiles on China's friend Syria,
and Sijimping was plumbox, which is the reason why Siegrimping
I think is very afraid of Trump because he can't
(49:13):
control him.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Well, there's a lot of people out there that should
be afraid of President Trump, and I'm specifically talking about
our enemies, whether it's terrorists or foreign entities. As we
watched President Trump take off in his motor cade, as
he would say, that big beautiful motor cade of his
off to mari A Lago, Gordon Chang, I appreciate you
coming on. I appreciate you going with the flow. Here
(49:35):
was a little bit of a different deal, but it
was great having you and doing this with you. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
It was so much fun. So thank you Grant, and
congratulations on the show. I mean, this is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Well, it's great and it's great to see you again.
I appreciate that as well. And don't forget to check
out Gordon Chank's new book as well, and I promise
you'll enjoy it. And there goes the motor Kate. I mean,
you know, I don't know if any of you have
ever seen a motorcade for a sitting president in person,
but it is impressive. And this will not take long
for him to get to mar A Lago. As I said,
(50:07):
it is not far away from the airport there. So
with that, let's take a quick break and then we
will come back. I mean, we'll talk a little bit
about those tariffs that Gordon Chang was talking about. So
stick with me as a real America's voice continues. Welcome
(50:34):
back everyone. So President Trump now is set to level
tariffs on Mexico, Canada, and China twenty five percent tariffs
on goods coming in from Mexico and Canada, ten percent
on goods coming in from China. Now, I'm going to
(50:54):
give President Trump great leeway on this. This. This guy
has made American great once, I trust you will make
America great twice. This is why I do what I
do and have this man's back. I've never been a
huge fan of tariffs, but right now what I'm seeing
from these countries, they deserve the tariffs and America deserves
the income. Do I fear it could raise prices in America?
(51:16):
It could have that possibility. But here's what I would
offer up to my friends in government in Washington, DC.
We may get a windfall of revenue coming in and
I mean a windfall with these tariffs on goods coming
from China, Mexico and Canada. We have trade deficits with
these countries. So what I want to do is pay
(51:38):
down our debt, resist the urge to spend the new money.
If government spends the new money, then the prices of
everything are gonna go back up. You're gonna see inflation
go up. Government has to resist the urge here. Now,
what about the foreign counterparts that are gonna hit with
these tariffs, like Canada. This is justin Trudeau.
Speaker 15 (52:00):
We're showing the new American administration that they have a
strong partner in Canada when it comes to upholding border security,
all while simultaneously underscoring that we won't back down that
if tariffs are implemented against Canada, we will respond. We
won't relent until tariffs are removed. And of course everything
(52:20):
is on the table.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Now. May I ask you, mister Prime Minister Beta mail
number one, what in the world is Canada going to
do to the United States? What do you mean you're
not going to relent? Well, what are you going to
do to us? You need us way more than we
need you, which is why President Trump says, hey, you
ought to become the fifty first state of the United
States of America. So Caroline Levi at President Trump's press secretary,
(52:47):
had a great response to these outlandish claims of Justin Trudeau.
Speaker 8 (52:51):
As I mentioned, President Trump will implement a ten percent
tariff on China. Have all enabled illegal drugs to pour
into America. The amount of fetanol that has been seized
at the southern border in the last two years alone
has the potential to kill tens of millions of Americans.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
And so the President is intent.
Speaker 8 (53:07):
On doing this, and I think Justin Trudeau would be
wise to talk to President Trump directly before pushing outlandish
comments like that to the media.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
And she's great, I'm telling you, she is absolutely great.
So we'll see how this plays out trust President Trump.
Trust is wisdom and let it play. And I'm gonna
think you're gonna see a big change with some of
these nations as well that President Trump's is. There's nothing
they can do to stop these tariffs. By the way,
they should have been acting this way long before President
Trump came into office. So they're coming, folks, and brace yourselves, Canada, Mexico,
(53:42):
and China. It's nice to say that for a change,
instead of them telling us to brace ourselves. That's it
for us. Have a great weekend, everybody. I'm grand Stinchfield.
Stinsfield's Army Rules
Well, good evening, everyone, Welcome to Stinchfield. It appears there
were multiple screw ups leading up to this catastrophic event
that led to the death of nearly seventy people over
those icy waters in Washington, DC when that black Hawk
helicopter crashed into that American Airlines flight. There's new video
now you're looking at on your screen of how this
(00:41):
helicopter slammed into this plane. This is from a different
angle and you could see there literally it looks like
there is no attempt to go up down miss this plane,
like out of nowhere, it just collides with that American
Airlines flight, leaving no one any chance for survivle. So
we are also getting confirmation that what we told you
(01:05):
last night on this program is now being confirmed. You
may remember that I went and investigated the altitude of
the helicopter and we know that it was flying around
eleven hundred feet when it took off, flying down the Potomac,
all the while near the airport. It should have been
at two hundred feet, But we know just thirty seconds
(01:27):
before the helicopter crashed into that American Eagle flight, it
was flying an eight hundred feet ultimately crashing into it
at two hundred and fifty feet. But I believe if
this helicopter was flying at the altitude it was supposed
to be flying at no higher than two hundred feet,
this crash never would have happened. So why was it
(01:50):
flying at the altitude it was and where was the
air traffic controllers? There was no real sense of urgency
by the air traffic control This is the NTSB chairman
talking about the crash.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Is this one of the worst fears of the NTSB, Yes,
it is.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And it's actually something that I warned about before Congress
when I last testified on aviation safety, that this is
exactly our worst fear, and here we are investigating a
tragedy that we haven't seen in years.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, it could have been even worse because a day
before that fatal crash, there was another near miss the
exact same runway, the exact same situation. A helicopter and
a plane almost crashed into each other again a day before,
and another near miss just a few days before that.
So now there is a pause on helicopter flights, specifically
(02:52):
military flights in that area as well. There should be,
But we also need to talk about the low staffing
levels of the air traffic control and why that would be.
We are now getting information that one of the air
traffic controllers actually left early, left his post approval to
leave his post, but left one air traffic controller doing
(03:14):
the job of two. We're told this is somehow normal
inside Reagan International Airport in that air traffic control tower.
I don't know how you allow that to happen. Diversity,
equity and inclusion may be one of the reasons why
the staff of thirty is down to nineteen. And you've
got a class action lawsuit by potential applicants to air
(03:37):
traffic control that were turned down. All potential white applicants,
including one who had a perfect score on his test,
not allowed to come in because Joe Biden and the
Democrats put such a premium and priority on having minority
applicants give them jobs. Here's a lawyer for those air
(03:59):
traffic controllers.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So it used to be that they would score a
pre employment test and it would be based on merit.
And all of our clients passed to defining colors. Many
of them pass with one hundred percent on this test.
And the FA decided that the tool of air traffic
controller and applicants was too white, and so they flushed
that initial test and they adopted a biographical assessment, which
(04:24):
you can already here as an ominous term for a air
traffic controller test.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And unfortunately our clients didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Pass that, and we allege that the air the FA
changed the test in order to cherry enter.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
The racial role.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So you see here it should be based on merit.
Isn't that what everybody wants? Yet President Trump knows something.
I believe this is why he's doubling down on diversity,
equity inclusion. So soon after this crash. Something was at
play here. We did not have highly qualified people either
in the cockpit or in the air traffic control tower.
(05:03):
Here's President Trump today.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
No, I think they'll do an investigation.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
It will probably come out the way I said it.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
I'd like to put it up front.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I'm so tired of listening to things happened to our
country and then people say.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
We'll do an investigation.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Three years later, they come up with a report that
nobody looks at, especially none.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
In all cases, can you do that? But in this case,
you know, you had.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
A helicopter that was the black Hawk was too high.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
It was above the two hundred limed by double shouldn't
have been there.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
And so true. So President Trump, I believe, is engaging
in a ropodope right now. The mainstream media is flipping
out over President Trump bringing up the idea of diversity, equity,
and inclusion. I believe that President Trump knows what was
going on, knows who was in the control tower or
(05:55):
in the cockpit. We're getting word that one of the
families of the military members that died in the helicopter
do not want the name released. I can't tell you
why they wouldn't want their name released, but we know
that they don't. We shall see how that plays out
and if there's any reason for not wanting the name release,
(06:16):
does it come back to DEI who knows. But again,
a lot of questions need to be answered. Now Again,
President Trump, I believe, is setting up the media, and
he's using Caroline Levin, who is continuing to do a
great job as his press secretary, to let the media
know what's important and what's not to the people, and
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especially inside the air traffic control towers across America.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
Listen, and you graduate from school and you're an air
traffic controller based on skill and merit, and then you
apply for a job and you're forced to fill out
a biographical questionnaire asking you the color of your skin
and asking you where you're from in details that aren't
relevant at all to the description. I think that deteriorates
the morale of people in this industry.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, I can tell you firsthand that I had a
number of air traffic controllers either reach out to me
directly after last night's program or through friends of theirs
after last night's program. All of them wanted me to
know that we and President Trump are onto something talking
about low morale and diversity, equity and inclusion bringing down
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the ability of air traffic controllers to actually do their job.
So we're onto something there. So the Left wants to
make this about race, but we know it should never
be about race. In fact, she talked about the question
that asks you what color you are? Why should that
(07:50):
even be on the application? In fact, you ought to
leave it off because I don't care whether you're black
or you're white. Here's how Caroline Livitt put it.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Are flying on an airplane with your loved ones, which
every one of us in this room has, Do you
pray that your plane lands safely and gets you to
your destination, or do you pray that the pilot has
a certain skin color.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I think we all know the answer to that question.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
And as President Trump said yesterday, it's common sense.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's absolutely common sense, and it may just be a
little inside knowledge. We shall see right in the end, though,
we just want the best. And this goes to all
agencies across all aspects of our government. I think all
of you are like me. Could you really care less
what color somebody is. This goes for the FBI, the CIA,
(08:38):
it goes to the Department of Education. Just do your
job and do it well, that's all we care about. Well,
joining me now, retired FBI agent Steve Gray is with us. Steve,
welcome to the program. Oh Steve, you hear me. We
do not have Steve yet. Let's see if we can
(08:58):
get Steve back. If we have them, folks, if you
can in the control room, talk to me and let
me know if he is able to hear us. If
he is not, then we will move on. Do we
have Steve? As we test his audio? There? What was that?
No Steve yet? Okay, So as we look at what's
(09:19):
going on here, folks, we're going to talk to Steve
about one the investigation that has to go on into
diversity equity inclusion that also happens inside the FBI. Let
me bring back in Steve Gray now, Steve, welcome to
the program. Sorry about the technical difficulties there, but we're
happy to have you on with us.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Thank you, thank thanks for having me. I appreciate it
absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I don't know if you could heard me leading up
to this, but diversity equity and inclusion quite possibly playing
a role in this. We shall see if that's what
it is. I think President Trump may know something. I
think he might be doing the old ropodope to the
media on this one. But before we get into that,
From an FBI perspective, what is happening right now with
this investigation into this crash. I would imagine all aspects
(10:04):
are being looked at. Steve.
Speaker 9 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The FBI is going to partner with the FAA and
Department of Transportation.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
They're going to look into this.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They're gonna take over a lot of the leads that
need to be done, a lot of the questions that need.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
To be answered.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
The FBI is going to go out and do a
lot of interviews for them, and it's going to be
a group effort to try to get get this solved
as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
All right, So what are some of the possibilities here?
I mean, do you think criminal action would be looked
at here? Do they go in with an open open
eyes to every aspect from accident to criminal Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Absolutely, They're going to look at everything, including the pilot
of the helicopter, his emotional state, what he was doing
prior to the flight, what he you know, what he
was looking at in you know, in his social media accounts.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
And on the internet as.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, and they're going to take all that into account
and then determine whether or not that this is either
an accident or this wasn't intentional.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
All right. You worked inside the federal government for a
long time. Let's turn the diversity, equity and inclusion we
saw under the Biden administration. This went into warp speed.
Has it affected the FBI in your opinion after leaving
that agency and looking back on it now.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, absolutely it has. It's really unfortunate, but there's a
lot of individuals who have risen to the top through
DEI processes that.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Don't belong there.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
As a matter of fact, a lot of those individuals
probably don't belong in the FBI. But the FBI lowered
its standards, and they had been lowering their standards from
twenty ten through twenty twenty. A lot of individuals that
I know in the FBI who were on the applicant squads,
who were doing the interviews for new applicants, were telling
me that the FBI had lowered their standards and they
(12:06):
had thrown out a lot of the rules that candidates
needed to follow in order to get into the FBI.
A lot of that had been just been tossed out.
And look what we're getting is instead of all of
the A candidates, we were getting b's and c's. And
now they're out there in the field offices, investigating crime
and climbing to the top of the ladder in FBI
(12:26):
executive management. And it's going to become a real problem
in the future for the FBI.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Do you think, Steeve, this was not just the FBI
about other agencies as well. We've heard stories about air
traffic control efforts, stories about other agencies.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Oh yeah, this is a concerted effort, especially by the
Biden administration, to clean house.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
They wanted this DEI in there.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
A lot of the Democratic senators and the Democratic representatives
wanted this DEI in there. They didn't care what the
candidate's background was. They just only cared about skin color
and that's it. And nobody cares about that. When I
was working in the FBI, nobody cared what the other
person looked like. We've just wanted to make sure that
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the person was competent. That's the most important thing. Is
that person competent for the job.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
All right, let me play a clip from you from
a former colleague of yours, Kyle Sarafin. He was a
former FBI agent talking about a mass exodus inside the FBI,
some of them leaving on their own, some of them
being told they need to go before the next FBI
director comes in. Hopefully, Cash Pattel, let's roll a cup thirteen.
Speaker 10 (13:37):
What we saw was the downfall of twenty five special
agents in chars of field offices around the FBI. Again,
they're only fifty five total, and all but thirty of
them lost their flipping jobs. As well as six executive
assistant directors have been walked out of the seven. The
way the FBI worksharw works as follows. There's a director,
there's a deputy director, and then there's an associate deputy director.
(14:00):
That's the one, two, and three at the FBI. Below that,
there are seven branch heads known as executive assistant director,
and six of those seven got fired today.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So this is literally the leadership of the FBI gone.
Had you heard the same.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
News, yeah, absolutely, And you know, going all the way
back to three years ago when you interviewed me, I
was calling for the FBI to purge executive management because
executive management is just a waste. It's basically a nepotism
dry for individuals to get as high as they can
through friends of friends, and then they just sit there
(14:37):
and they do nothing. And that's a problem because you know,
we have there's a lot of levels within the FBI
right now. Sometimes agents can't go out in the field
until at least they get four or five different approvals
to get it to have to complete an interview. It's
absolutely ridiculous. Cut these agents loose and let them go
out there. But the problem is is that FBI executive
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management doesn't want to the boat because these individuals are
sitting there. They're administrators, they're not investigators. And they're looking
for that big sweet job on the outside after the FBI,
and that's all they're looking for once they get to
executive management, So they don't want to rock the boat.
When's the last time we turned turn onto television and
(15:18):
we saw a big FBI story that was positive?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Almost never And we need to get back to that.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We need to get back to these big FBI raids
of organized crime, these big FBI raids of counterintelligence and suspects.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
We need to get back to all of that and
we have not had that in years in the FBI.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
All right, last question for you, So we see all
of these major heads inside the FBI and top leadership
being flushed out. Do you think it's imperative that Cash Patel,
if he's an extra FBI director, I hope he is,
goes outside the agency to fill those leadership roles. Do
you take some from inside, all from inside? How would
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you like to see this play out?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You know, I would like to see the outsiders come
in and clean house. There's no reason that we have
to have somebody from the inside in those roles.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
They're just administrative roles.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And you know, it's really sad, but these individuals that
are getting fired, and these individuals that are being forced out,
you know, they're getting this huge golden.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Parachute when they leave.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Some of these individuals are going to be making over
eighty thousand dollars in taxpayer funds as they walk out
the door with that big fat check to their next job,
and it's really disgusting.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Well, you've been a great voice blowing the whistle on
what goes on inside there really for the sole goal
of making it better and the American people safer. And
for that, s De Gray, I always thank you and
I appreciate you coming on the program as always, sir.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Thanks, thanks Grant, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You have a good night, absolutely you two and a
good weekend as well. All right, So next up, how
do we change all this? Well, President Trump needs his
people to get through. One is cash Battel, the hopefully
next FBI director. Right, they despise this guy, but I
(17:14):
do think of the next three picks, which would be
Tulsi Gabbert for Director of National Intelligence ORFK for helping
human services in cash Betel, I think cash Battel has
the best chance of getting into the office, even though
they want to hammer him over things. Here's Clobus Senator
Klobashar trying to do just that to Cash.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Did you say that the FBI headquarters should be shut
down and reopen as a museum of the deep state?
Speaker 11 (17:44):
I stood with them here in this country, in every
theater of war we have, I was on the ground
in service of this nation. In any accusations leveled against
me that I would somehow put political bias before the
constitution are grotesquely unfair. And I will have you reminded
that I have been endorsed by over three hundred thousand
law enforcement officers to become the next director of the FBI.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Let's ask them. I would also say, yes, he did
say that, and he said it right here on this
program on numerous occasions, and it is what the American
people want. Klobashard doesn't want her because he's going to
shake the whole apple cart up. Well, I want to
bring in with me now, former Trump White House official
and executive director of Confirmed forty seven, Cameron Kenzie is back. Cameron, welcome,
(18:32):
Thanks for having me. Grant, all right, what do you
think of my assessment that I think Cash may have
the easiest road to confirmation? And I think Tolsi Gabbard
may have the hardest. Feel free to disagree, but where
do you fall on those three?
Speaker 12 (18:48):
I completely agree. I mean Patel was grilled like a
criminal for defending due process, which is absolutely ridiculous. The
FBI is a disaster, It's a mess, and people know this.
It's been weaponized again. Its conservatives, parents, et cetera. So
of course, I mean, the same crowd that cheered on
the Russia hoax doesn't want Patel anywhere near reforming it.
(19:09):
But I have to agree with you. My eyes are
on Tulsi right now. She made it clear our intelligence
agencies have been politicized. You know, Gabbard represents a real
break from the failed intelligence establishment that gave us a
rock mass surveillance election interference. You know, Trump picked her
because he wants to change how DC operates. But really
the question we should be asking Grant is will the
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GOP let him. I mean, we've already seen pushback from
Susan Collins and Jerry Morin against Tulci Gabbard. So I
Republicans block reform minded nominees like Tulci Gabbard. You know,
they're not just opposing Trump, they're citing with the deep
state operatives who spent years undermining him, and that to
me is just completely unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know, I'm with you, Cameron, for everything the President
Trump has been through, for his total commitment to trying
to make America great again and almost losing his life
because of it. These Republicans ought to give President Trump
who he wants to serve him in his cabinet. You've
talked about Jerry Moore and the Senator. Let me play
this clip for you. Cut nineteen guys and then get
(20:14):
your response.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
I want to make certain that in no way does
Russia get a pass in either your mind or your heart,
or in any policy recommendation you would make or not make.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
Senator, I'm offended by the question because my sole focus, commitment,
and responsibility is about our own nation, our own security,
and the interests of the American people.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You know, he's literally taken Democrat slash fake news media
talking points and pushing that. I mean, I'm embarrassed for
him more than anything else.
Speaker 12 (20:56):
Oh absolutely, I mean, these hearings aren't about qualifications. I
mean Tulsi's qualifications speak for themselves. She's worn the uniform
for twenty two years. She's served in Congress in a
civilian role, in a military role, right. I mean these
were just about the establishment trying to get the grip,
their grip on power. It's on full display. I mean
during this time, President Obama had twenty two nominations confirmed
(21:19):
already and Trump has eight. So these nominations they're really
just threatening their monopoly on intelligence, law enforcement, health policy,
like we see with RFK Junior as well, and that's
why they're facing so much resistance. I do agree she
should have been offended by the question. It's a ridiculous question,
and these people need to be held accountable.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
You know. It's amazing because even for Republicans, there are
tough questions you can ask her, which I think would
be legitimate questions. Hey, you're in the Democrat caucus. You
voted for Nancy Pelosi, I don't know how many times
to be Speaker of the House. Why should you believe you? Now,
that's a legitimate question, and in fact, it's a question
I've asked her on this program and she still came
(21:59):
back another time to continue to answer these questions, which
is why I can say I believe her sincerity. I
didn't always believe her sincerity, Carameron, but I do after
talking to her personally one on one here on the radio,
they're legitimate questions for Republicans to ask, not this we're
gonna help Russia? Are you going to help Russia? I mean,
(22:20):
that's just nonsensical. I'll give you the last word on this.
Maybe RFK your prediction for him.
Speaker 12 (22:26):
Yeah, absolutely, And I want to go back to just
say I think all these nominees all they want is
to promote transparency and be a direct reflection of President Trump.
President Trump has been the most transparent president of all time.
And then I'll go to RFK Junior. You know, love
him or hate him, He's exposed the deep ties between
big pharma government health agencies. You know, the Senate doesn't
(22:48):
want him as HSS Secretary because he's going to ask
uncomfortable questions about vaccine safety, government overreach, pandemic mismanagement. You know,
it just threatens the massive governmental and industrial complex has
been profiting off of fear, compliance and control for the
past couple of years. The people who were pressing him
as hard as they were, the people like Senator Ron Whiten.
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He's taken one point five million from big Pharma. Bennett
has taken one point five million, Warren has taken five
point two million, Bernie Sanders one point four million, and
then there's others as well. This is all available on
Open Secrets.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
You can go see it for yourself in.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Fact check me.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
But these people aren't looking out for the American people.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
These people are looking out.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
For their donors, and they need to be held accountable
as well. I do think, you know, President Trump has
put together the Unity Party RFK Junior Tulci Gabbard coming
over and being with us, you know, as we enact
the America First Agenda, and the only way to do
that is to confirm these cabin cabinet nominations so that
way we can press forward and enact the people's mandate.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He absolutely deserves them to be confirmed, and they deserve
to be confirmed. There's no there's no reason they shouldn't
be confirmed, and will be fun to watch them all
operate and watch the left go crazy over it. Confirm
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Thanks grit all right.
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Trump Era. No obligation, only information. The Left truly thinks
the country will cease who exist if mass deportations continue.
More on that next. Welcome back everyone. I want to
(25:16):
warn you of a fake news narrative going around that
somehow Ice agents are going to be storming into schools,
storming into churches, storming into your workplace to arrest every
single illegal alien there and sweep them up and check
the papers. This is not happening. Only targeted enforcement is happening.
But the Left despises the fact that they're going after murderers, rapists,
(25:41):
drug dealers, pimps, sex traffickers because it means America is
going to be a safer place. They don't want you
to think that they want everyone to live in fear.
So you get things like this from Steve Soberoff. This
is the guy who's in charge of the LA rebuilding process.
The rebuildings are after the wildfires. Listen to this Kakamamie comment.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Construction costs are going to be high because the demand
for commodities is going to be high. The demand for labor,
whether or not half our labor gets deported before this happens,
is going.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
To be high.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
So we're going to be recruiting people from around the
country to come, you know, and live at Motel Sixes.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Force is going to be deported unless half your labor
force or all MS thirteen and trend de Aragua gang members,
they'll be deported. But half the labor force in Los
Angeles is not getting deported. They may need to be,
but they're not going to be. All of it is
designed to dupe you. I want to bring in. Now,
former Border Patrol agent and author of the upcoming book Treason,
(26:50):
JJ Carroll is with us. JJ. Welcome to the program.
Thank you for having me, Grant.
Speaker 14 (26:55):
And right off the bat, the premise that that man
is saying is a lie, is an absolute lie. I
went back in when I began to write my book Trees,
and and did research. I went only back to twenty
eleven and reread my thesis, my master's thesis on the
work site of illegal aliens, and I came back to
present day. There has been no significant change. And do
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you know the number one segment of our economy that
has the largest percentage of the workforce of illegal aliens.
Do you know what that is? It's construction. Just what
that man just said. But you know, it's not fifty percent,
it's not seventy five percent, it's not even twenty five percent,
it's not even fifteen percent. It's thirteen percent of the
construction population's illegal aliens. We have been lied to our
(27:41):
whole lives, Grant, for decades and decades to believe that
if I have a construction site that has one hundred
workers and only eighty seven show up my construction site
in my business crumbles. That's the lie. The greatest economy
in the world has ever seen, hinges on illiterate illegal aliens.
When I say it out loud, it sounds stupid, and
(28:03):
it sounds stupid because it is.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, you know, they're pushing this and a lot of
people are getting this fake message that somehow this is
going to happen. They'll be the Ice agents, will be
storming the workplace and storming schools. My son goes to
an inner city school in Dallas. It's about sixty seventy
percent Hispanic, and they started spreading the rumor that ice
was outside and going to be coming in, to the
(28:27):
point where they had to send a message home to
parents that Ice was not at the school. Now they're
doing this for a reason. They're doing this to scare kids,
to scare communities and all those things. Now, I understand
everybody needs to be looking over their shoulder if they're
here illegally. But this is not Tom Holman's operation, is it. No,
it's not.
Speaker 14 (28:47):
He's going after the hardened criminals, but everyone else that
gets caught up in that web, that web that's illegal aliens,
they're getting removed too. Can we just stop as a
nation just for a second and say, why don't we
take of our American brothers and sisters and we'll worry
about the fears and trepidations of illegal aliens that have
committed crimes in America and they're gone. Can we just
(29:09):
get on the base level of that and to go
back to further about the lie of that.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
We need illegal aliens.
Speaker 14 (29:15):
Do you know the other lie that we're told, well,
your hamburger will cost thirty seven dollars if we released them.
Do you know how many people work in the service
industry that are illegal aliens? The percentage is seven percent,
Grant seven percent.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
This is all a lie.
Speaker 14 (29:30):
I've been talking about this since I wrote my thesis
and into writing books. The Republicans, the media, and the
Rhinos and the left, crazy left, they just lie to us.
The idea, Grant that America needs foreign nationals to survive
is a lie.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
It's always been a lie. Hey, let me ask you
to keep on this topic of schools, just to let
everybody's fears rest easy. And I want your opinion. E've
been in law enforcement for so long. I said to somebody,
I said, if there is a violent murderer, a gang
member who's seventeen, sixteen years old, that's a junior in
high school someplace, and this is a violent dude. The
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last thing ice agents are going to do are go
storming into English class someplace with a bunch of students around.
I would imagine they would tail him, follow him until
there's a spot where they can take him, not putting
everybody else in danger. Am I right on this? You're
absolutely right.
Speaker 14 (30:28):
Or you bring him into your office and say, hey,
you got to go see the principal or something, okay,
and you walk into a room here, I am, you're
hooked up. But the probability that happened is almost zero.
They're going to trail him. Once he gets out of
school and goes to his work side or wherever he does,
he goes home, they'll be waiting for him and take
care of it. And that's a great point that you're making, Grant,
(30:49):
because I want your audience to understand too that when
they these illegal aliens cross, they lie about their age.
So you have men, men that are in their twenties
that are in your high schools across America.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Absolutely, because why.
Speaker 14 (31:02):
Would you if you were a drug dealer and you're
twenty two years old, and you're believed to be eighteen seventeen.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Why wouldn't I go?
Speaker 14 (31:09):
I have all my customers right there at my fingertips.
They're doing this in America, and it's sad we've allowed
this to happen, say the least yep.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
We sure have one more clip for you. This is
Pete haig Seth on Fox and Friends talking about going
after the Cartels, and before I get too close to
the break, let me play it and get a quick
comment from you on the back end of this.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
As a Secretary of Defense, are you permitted now to
go after them in Mexico or wherever they are?
Speaker 16 (31:38):
Brian, I don't want to get ahead of the president,
and I won't. That's ultimately going to be his decision.
But let me be clear, all options will be on
the table if we're dealing with what are designated to
be foreign terrorist organizations who are specifically targeting Americans on
our border and we're finally securing our.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Boarder, JJ, you and I have talked about this. I'm
a firm believer we should declare war on the cartels
and go after them inside Mexico. You think he was
sending any kind of a message. There are they tipping
their cards at all? I think he has to go
in there.
Speaker 14 (32:14):
One hundred and fifty thousand Americans die of overdoses every year,
tied to about sixty seventy percent of those overdoses are
tied to fentanyl. These are savages on the south side.
You cannot fight them from Afar. You're going to have
to send in your special forces and overwhelm them and
be ready for a war. Not some little shoot handgun
and maybe a stabbing. You're talking about surfaced air missiles,
(32:38):
everything you can imagine that they have in Afghanistan. That
is what's happening across the border. One hundred and fifty
of our brothers and sisters die every year because of it.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Well, let's hope he does. I think it'll save American
lives if we do wigs that war on the cartels.
JJ Carroll, it's great having you on, former Border Patrol agent.
We appreciate that service. And let me tell people about
your book, Trees and Comes out on Fit. You are
a eighteenth and examines the Biden Administration's destruction of American sovereignty.
All right, we are awaiting the landing of air Force
(33:09):
one in West Palm Beach, Florida. It's President Trump's first
trip back to West Palm and I believe mar a
lago since he has become the next president of the
United States forty seven. So we'll get some video of that.
If he speaks to the gaggle on the tarmac, we
will take that live for you as well. So stick
here as we await President Trump's arrival in West Palm Beach, Florida.
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it is dark, but I believe that is Air Force
one and making its landing. Is that correct, guys, I
can't see the screen there. It is Air Force one
making its landing in West Palm Beach. Now, let me
tell you something. This has been a long time coming.
(34:38):
We have all seen Trump Force one making its landing
in West Palm Beach. I fly in and out of
that airport a lot, and Trump Force one is a
steady fixture there on the tarmac. Do you know how long? Well,
of course you do. Four years. I've been waiting to
see Air Force one back on the tarmac in West
(34:59):
pom Beach. This has been a long time coming, and
we're grateful for it. So as we watch this and
we think of all the things that President Trump has done,
somebody said to me yesterday when he was talking at
one of his news conferences, Boy, he sounds tired. I said, well,
of course he sounds tired. How is he not going
to sound tired? Think of what this man has been doing.
(35:22):
He's been jet setting himself all across the country. He's
working to all hours of the night. He's signed I
don't know how many executive orders now two hundred, it's
going to be pushing three hundred. I think by the
time he gets he gets done over the next couple
of weeks, and you better believe he's tired. So here's
what I hope. This is my prayer for President Trump.
(35:43):
When he gets to mar A Lago, which will be
moments away, he gets some rest. Now the guy doesn't sleep,
don't expect them to sleep, but let him get a
little rest and chill out for a little bit. I'm
sure he will play some golf before heading back to Washington,
d C. Me. But make no mistake about this, And
even when Joe Biden was president, I did acknowledge this.
(36:07):
You are always president now, not so much for Joe Biden,
who had somebody else pulling his strings, but for any
other president. When they leave the White House, it's not
like you're off duty. It's not like you're off the job.
The calls in the middle of the night still come,
the briefings still come every morning, every afternoon, and the
stress of the job still comes. And it takes a
(36:29):
toll not only on yourself, but it takes a toll
on your family, and it takes a toll on those
around you. So just because he's down there, I don't
think that he's going to get a lot of rest.
But it's nice to be home, even though he's been
in Washington, d C. Now only what is it a week?
Is it a week or two weeks? As time goes
by so fast for me now how fast this has
(36:51):
been going. But it is great to see Air Force
one back in West Palm Beach. Now this will have
a huge effect on air travel inside in and out
of West Palm. Anytime a president lands at any airport
around the country, it certainly has a huge effect on traffic.
The nice thing about the West Palm Beach Airport it
(37:13):
is not far from mar A Lago. There is basically
a direct run onto the highway. You get off at
one exit and you're over a bridge and he's home.
So though traffic is affected for that, this is not
a major city like Los Angeles or New York or Dallas.
This is a smaller city, so the effect is less,
(37:35):
albeit a big effect. But I can tell you this
tonight at mari Alago, you are going to have every member,
every one of their guests that are lucky enough to
be there to have dinner tonight on the terrace. They
will be eagerly awaiting this man, and I hope the
video emerges of what that looks like when he arrives,
(37:58):
because it will be a a thunderous applause for this man.
He is obviously beloved at his own club, just like
he is just about everywhere he goes now in the
United States. But it will be a special scene there tonight,
and it is very different now. Really, the chain started
once he won the election to the security at Marilago,
(38:21):
which is it doesn't get any tighter than that. Even
when he was president as forty five, I don't remember
the security being as tight as is now at Marilago,
and he deserves it. So many people want this man killed,
they really do. So I think what we should do
(38:42):
is we're going to go to break and then we'll
come back. It takes a we blue break. Okay, Well,
that plane is going to park and will await President Trump.
It looks like it's pulling into place. The media is
going to have to off, and it's going to take
a little while for him to get out here. I'm
(39:03):
wondering if we have our next guest ready, okay, we
do so. With that, I would like to bring in
a very good friend of mine, which is a little
bit different segment than we planned on doing, but we
can take us through this. My buddy Gordon Chang is
with us. He is the author of a new book
and I can't wait to read and I haven't yet.
It is plan read China's Project to destroy America, and boy,
(39:28):
this has been going on for a while. But Gordon Chang,
welcome to the program. Congratulations on the new book that
has come out, and welcome my friend.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Thank you so much, Grant. It's great to be on
your ship, so thank you well.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Absolutely. I was going to ask you about Deep Seek,
and we may still have a chance to talk a
little bit about that. But as President Trump comes into
position here, I can't help but notice, Gordon that China,
besides the Deep Seak announcement, seems to have been quieter
over the last couple of weeks with some of the
dire that we're used to, and I do think the
(40:03):
Deep Seek was a way to hit back in America.
What are your thoughts on that assessment.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
I think you're absolutely right, you know, with the exception
of the release of deep seeks Model R one on
January twenty China's actually been very quiet and there's been
very few provocative actions in his peripheral waters, and I
think that that is a a recognition that they can't
take Trump on right now. So you're spot on on that.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
What does it do that President Trump is now back
talking to President she how Asijinping? How often do you
think they will talk and how important are those conversations.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
I would actually hope that he wouldn't talk to c
Driving at this particular time. I think that President Trump
needs to impose those costs on China that has been
talking about. Once he does that, then he creates an
incentive for the Chinese to deal with the United States
and with President Trump in good faith. But obviously, anytime
you have something about the relations between the United States
(41:11):
and China, it's critical because the Chinese right now are
doing things that are not only assaulting our country, but
they're assaulting almost everybody else's countries as well. So this
is a point where sigm Ping is lashing out. He's flailing,
he's got an economy that's falling apart, and so this
is a precarious moment for the world all right.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
As we see President Trump's Air Force one pull up
to where he will disembark the plane in West Palm Beaches,
he heads to Mary Lago. I'm fascinated by this Gordon
because President Trump is the guy who likes to talk
to people, even his enemies. Lucky even went to North Korea.
If President Trump asked you, your advice to him would be,
(41:50):
do not call Jijingping. Is that right?
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Yeah, it would be don't call him, you know, make
sigm Ping call President Trump, because that puts Cjen Ping
in the inferior position. Sijan Ping's diplomacy is to intimidate everybody.
He loves it when people go to Beijing. He loves
it when people try to get in contact with him.
And we know that because Chinese propaganda all the time says, well,
(42:15):
you know so and so leader of country X, he
called us and he wanted to come see us. So
clearly we shouldn't be doing that because right now we
hold all the cards, and I think Sigean Ping's in
a very difficult position. He needs our market. His only
way to rescue his country is to sell more to Americans,
and that means President Trump can actually close the US
(42:38):
market with tariffs and makes sigen Ping bank.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
All right, So speaking of Jijingping and what he likes
to do, and he likes to cause chaos. So I
told you i'd ask you about deep Seek. Deep Seek
is the AI model that rocked the US markets, especially
when it came to the chip makers like Nvidia, Broadcom TX,
all these tech companies that just plummeted on Monday morning
(43:04):
when this announcement had come out that they can make
the chips cheaper, they can do it with less energy,
they can operate AI at a level that the United
States can't even compete with. That day, Gordon Chang I
came out and I said, to use President Trump's term
bull You know what, I don't believe them. I think
they're bluffing on this.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
You know you're right about that. We know that the
AI is really good and better than ours because it's
open source. But that's not the end of the story.
First of all, the only they talk about spending only
six million dollars to produce this model R one that's impossible.
And also the timeframe is impossible. Deep Seaks started business
(43:47):
in July twenty twenty three. They needed much more time
than that, and we know that they actually distill as
a technical term, that's when a large language model like
deep Sea uses another large line guage model to train itself.
They use chat GPT of open Ai. They did that
in violation of open AI's terms of service. In other words,
(44:09):
they stole their model from the United States, and that
means that their goal, I mean, what they did was
much less impressive. So you're right about that too.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
All right, So, and folks at home or what we're
watching is President Trump getting ready to get off of
Air Force one and head to Mari Lago on West
Palm Beach's first trip back there President Trump. And I
don't think this is a coincidence, Gordon, that he becomes president,
then he announces this huge partnership with soft Bank and
(44:41):
the Japanese bank, and China and Japan don't have the
greatest of relationships. And then lo and behold, we just
get this announcement. Now there's talk that Deepseek has fifty
to sixty thousand stolen Nvidia chips that allows them to
do what they do. Do you believe that assessment?
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Yeah, I don't know about the exact number, but they
do have Invidia chips that are under US sanctions, and
you know, we also know that the release of this
model are one what coincided with the Chinese Communist Party
propaganda blitz about the futility of American sanctions. So I
think that this was run by the from the top
of the Communist Party to try to convince the United
(45:25):
States to lift those sanctions. And by the way, R
one was actually released on January twenty, which is the
day that the United States changed management. So I think
all of this is a big publicity blitz to really
affect the way that we deal with China.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Do you think they knew it would have the effect
that it? Were they happy? I should say, I know
they wanted it to affect the markets. Were they happy
it did it as much as they did or did
they expect more?
Speaker 5 (45:54):
I don't know the answer to that question. But you know,
one of the things the Communist Party does is try
to injure America in companies, and so clearly they took
They got that result because Nvidia itself lost about six
hundred billion dollars of market value, almost eighteen percent of
its total value, and as you pointed out, other tech
(46:14):
companies also got hit when people started focusing on this.
So really, what we're talking about is an attempt to
injure the American tech sector, and at least temporarily, they
did a good job of that. Now the markets are recovering,
people are starting to talk about how that this announcement
was not as good as it appears. But you know,
(46:34):
they did a really big number on us.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, yeah, they sure did. As we wait for President
Trump to get off of Air Force one, if you
were able to sit down with President Trump and give
him your best advice about China, what we should be
doing as the greatest nation in the world America to
handle China. What would be first on your list to
be telling President Trump? Now?
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, he said, that's his favorite word the dictionary.
The other thing I would say is related, and that
has enforced the Terrifact of nineteen thirty, which prohibits the
importation into the US of goods made with forced slabor,
because all of China's green products and almost many of
its other products are made with forced labor of uigers, cossacks,
(47:20):
and other minorities in conditions that actually finance genocide.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Gordon, I'm going to interrupt you and as we watch
President Trump get off of Air Force one the first
time in West Palm Beach. Is the forty seventh president
of the United States. You know, if it was any
other president, going home isn't the biggest thing in the world.
But everything that has happened to this man that marri
Lago has become basically White House South. For four years
(47:50):
he was operating as a leader in Palm Beach there
at that beautiful place of his And so he's home
after being small born in what ten days ago, nine
days ago? I get or no, what is it eleven
days ago, eleven days and eleven days ago exactly, and
welcome home some much needed rest, I'm sure for him.
(48:12):
Gordon Chang, Oh.
Speaker 5 (48:15):
Yes, I mean he's had the most productive initial period
of any American president, you know, certainly in our lifetimes.
With all those executive orders, with the announcements, he's changed
the world. I mean he changed the world when he
was President Olek before he took the oath of office.
He certainly has continued that with this lurry of executive
orders which have just basically changed everything for the better.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Do you think and now I don't look at people
like Jijingping and Vladimir Putin as men who fear very
many people. Do you think Jijingping fears Donald Trump?
Speaker 5 (48:51):
Yes, and for a lot of reasons. You know, this
goes back to April twenty seventeen when Sidrin Ping went
Tomorrow logo, you know, over that piece of most beautiful
piece of chocolate. K Trump stood up and said he
had just launched fifty nine missiles on China's friend Syria,
and Sijimping was plumbox, which is the reason why Siegrimping
I think is very afraid of Trump because he can't
(49:13):
control him.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Well, there's a lot of people out there that should
be afraid of President Trump, and I'm specifically talking about
our enemies, whether it's terrorists or foreign entities. As we
watched President Trump take off in his motor cade, as
he would say, that big beautiful motor cade of his
off to mari A Lago, Gordon Chang, I appreciate you
coming on. I appreciate you going with the flow. Here
(49:35):
was a little bit of a different deal, but it
was great having you and doing this with you. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
It was so much fun. So thank you Grant, and
congratulations on the show. I mean, this is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Well, it's great and it's great to see you again.
I appreciate that as well. And don't forget to check
out Gordon Chank's new book as well, and I promise
you'll enjoy it. And there goes the motor Kate. I mean,
you know, I don't know if any of you have
ever seen a motorcade for a sitting president in person,
but it is impressive. And this will not take long
for him to get to mar A Lago. As I said,
(50:07):
it is not far away from the airport there. So
with that, let's take a quick break and then we
will come back. I mean, we'll talk a little bit
about those tariffs that Gordon Chang was talking about. So
stick with me as a real America's voice continues. Welcome
(50:34):
back everyone. So President Trump now is set to level
tariffs on Mexico, Canada, and China twenty five percent tariffs
on goods coming in from Mexico and Canada, ten percent
on goods coming in from China. Now, I'm going to
(50:54):
give President Trump great leeway on this. This. This guy
has made American great once, I trust you will make
America great twice. This is why I do what I
do and have this man's back. I've never been a
huge fan of tariffs, but right now what I'm seeing
from these countries, they deserve the tariffs and America deserves
the income. Do I fear it could raise prices in America?
(51:16):
It could have that possibility. But here's what I would
offer up to my friends in government in Washington, DC.
We may get a windfall of revenue coming in and
I mean a windfall with these tariffs on goods coming
from China, Mexico and Canada. We have trade deficits with
these countries. So what I want to do is pay
(51:38):
down our debt, resist the urge to spend the new money.
If government spends the new money, then the prices of
everything are gonna go back up. You're gonna see inflation
go up. Government has to resist the urge here. Now,
what about the foreign counterparts that are gonna hit with
these tariffs, like Canada. This is justin Trudeau.
Speaker 15 (52:00):
We're showing the new American administration that they have a
strong partner in Canada when it comes to upholding border security,
all while simultaneously underscoring that we won't back down that
if tariffs are implemented against Canada, we will respond. We
won't relent until tariffs are removed. And of course everything
(52:20):
is on the table.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Now. May I ask you, mister Prime Minister Beta mail
number one, what in the world is Canada going to
do to the United States? What do you mean you're
not going to relent? Well, what are you going to
do to us? You need us way more than we
need you, which is why President Trump says, hey, you
ought to become the fifty first state of the United
States of America. So Caroline Levi at President Trump's press secretary,
(52:47):
had a great response to these outlandish claims of Justin Trudeau.
Speaker 8 (52:51):
As I mentioned, President Trump will implement a ten percent
tariff on China. Have all enabled illegal drugs to pour
into America. The amount of fetanol that has been seized
at the southern border in the last two years alone
has the potential to kill tens of millions of Americans.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
And so the President is intent.
Speaker 8 (53:07):
On doing this, and I think Justin Trudeau would be
wise to talk to President Trump directly before pushing outlandish
comments like that to the media.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
And she's great, I'm telling you, she is absolutely great.
So we'll see how this plays out trust President Trump.
Trust is wisdom and let it play. And I'm gonna
think you're gonna see a big change with some of
these nations as well that President Trump's is. There's nothing
they can do to stop these tariffs. By the way,
they should have been acting this way long before President
Trump came into office. So they're coming, folks, and brace yourselves, Canada, Mexico,
(53:42):
and China. It's nice to say that for a change,
instead of them telling us to brace ourselves. That's it
for us. Have a great weekend, everybody. I'm grand Stinchfield.
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