The Charlie Kirk Show, February 19, 2025

Commentary on Ukraine, Wisconsin, transgender people, Germany, EPA, Elon Musk, and President Trump    

Guest Brett Galaszewski, Michael Knowles, Marie-Therese Kaiser, and Lee Zeldin  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Now, why do you think other countries aren't judged revenue
strict immigration policy.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I was born as a man and now I'm a woman.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
What do you think the biggest threat is to the
United States currently? There's a reason that a lot of
the black community doesn't have a father, and it's because
of systemic racism.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
America is the only country where even those who hate
it refused to leave. That's how you know you live
in a great country. It's time that we start talking
to the next generation, not talking down to the next generation.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
And that's what we're doing.

Speaker 6 (01:00):
I understand that even a temporary interruption in federal employment
is a great crisis, a catastrophe for you.

Speaker 7 (01:07):
And for CNN.

Speaker 6 (01:08):
What the American people see is a government that is
finally delivering the promise of accountability under President Trump. You
want to have a conversation about transparency, let me ask
you a question. Do you have any idea where the
twenty two billion dollars that the Department of Health and
Human Services provided to illegal aliens? Letter Joe Biden is
right now? Twenty two billion with the b that's enough

(01:31):
to provide a free house to every homeless veteran in America.
Where's the twenty two billion dollars. I don't know, you
don't know, nobody knows. Joe Biden just spent it and
now it's gone. Transparency begins with having an accounting.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
O where every federal dollar is spent.

Speaker 8 (01:46):
And we would love it if President Trump was in attendance.
You have a room full of proud American players and
coaches and staff, and listen, we're just trying to represent
our country the best way we cant.

Speaker 9 (02:00):
But what I'm really worried about are the people who
are not watching CNN or Fox and.

Speaker 10 (02:06):
Who are worried about that too.

Speaker 9 (02:12):
A lot of folks aren't looking for political com but
it's finding them, and it's finding them wrapped up in
a lot of cultural stuff. You could be on parenting
Instagram and you're getting this trad wife stuff with a
little politics inflected into it, or roaguan and the rest
of it.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
And I think we really need.

Speaker 9 (02:31):
To be much smarter about taking this conversation to places
where it's not reaching folks.

Speaker 7 (02:37):
This is the first time this door is.

Speaker 11 (02:39):
Opening, first time it's been open since March twenty twenty,
since COVID.

Speaker 7 (02:44):
Wow, why do you want to do this?

Speaker 11 (02:46):
I thought it was important for everybody to come back
to the office, and I think reopening the front door
of the Treasury Building what better symbol. Then we are
open for business again, and everybody's expected back in the
office every day when I'm in the see I'm coming
through the office, and I expect everybody else to.

Speaker 12 (03:03):
And now our president is quoting that white supremacist, neo
Nazi murderer. If you voted for that, you really need
to question whether you're American anymore. But that's who's using
that kind of statement. And listen, does Trump sit and
read Norwegian history? Hell no, someone is handing him this story,

(03:26):
this quote, And we need to figure out who keeps
spoon feeding him the white supremacy, white terrorist philosophy.

Speaker 13 (03:35):
What we're seeing right now, Caitlynn, it's very dangerous moment.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I'm laughing at him, but it is not funny.

Speaker 13 (03:42):
This country is moving very rapidly under Trump into an
authoritarian form of society. Elon Musk is clearly running the shelbon.
Wealthiest person in the world, who has enormous conflicts of interests,
who is helping of fun white breading extremist organizations all

(04:03):
over the world. Who was looking forward to get massive
tax breaks from Congress. He's winning the show.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
You've been speaking with a number of voters who were
Hillary Clinton twenty sixteen, Joe Biden twenty twenty, and then
went for Trump in twenty twenty four. How are these
folks seeing the early days of Trump's second firm Pretty well?

Speaker 10 (04:24):
Really, and they're reacting to it because they loved the
pace of change.

Speaker 14 (04:29):
They were very fed up over the last four years.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
They wanted action, they wanted results.

Speaker 14 (04:33):
They looked at prices, they.

Speaker 15 (04:34):
Looked at affordability, looked at immigration, and they didn't see
anything happening.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
They still don't like what he says, but they like
what he does.

Speaker 10 (04:44):
So what they tell me is, I wish you'd be
a little bit less rude.

Speaker 14 (04:48):
But at the same time, they like what he's doing.
They believe he's serious.

Speaker 16 (04:51):
About it, and for the first time, they have confidence
in the future.

Speaker 17 (05:02):
Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information
coming from every angle, but the will to the sea
fear not. He found the place for truth, the voice
from a generation that still has the will to believe
in the greatest country in the history of the world.
This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Fuck a lot. Here we go.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Welcome everybody, radio stations across the country.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I interview with you as always.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
We had a great speech last evening at the Hillsdale
College National Leadership Seminar in downtown Phoenix.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Is phenomenal.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
We have some exclusive conversation with doctor Larry Arn coming
up in the final hour. We have a lot to
cover today. We have an action packed show. I want
to get right into the breaking news. President Donald Trump
sends a truth social and he is sending the world
a message. The gravy train is out ending. Since the beginning,

(06:02):
we have been very clear on this program that it
is not America's role to get involved in the Russian
Ukrainian dispute. From the very beginning, we looked at the
cost and the consequences about how good this could destabilize
an entire continent, that could destroy the US dollar, that
could bring us closer and closer to needless nuclear war.

(06:28):
It was the conventional wisdom back in twenty twenty two,
at the outbreak of the war. It was the conventional
wisdom that we must fight Russia. We must fight Russia.
I actually went to Seapak three years ago and said no.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
It was written up everywhere.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
I said that our leaders should care more about the
southern border than the Ukrainian border. I was attacked as
being insensitive, cruel. In reality, we were just putting America
for ninety nine percent of the people in our audience
were against us. It was by far the most unpopular
stand that we've ever taken, and I knew we were

(07:11):
right at our core. I knew I writ It has
been one of the most interesting things to see how
the audience moved throughout the months. We'd be getting Ukrainian
flag sent to us in email chains, people saying we
must fight the Russians. Now our audience is ninety nine
percent against. It has been one of the most remarkable
changes and shifts. And honestly, credit to those of you

(07:33):
that did change your mind. Credit to those of you
that realize the scam that is the Ukrainian conflict, and
those of you that were in that one percent. You
helped move the Overton window. You held the line, you
held your elected leaders to a higher standard. And someone
who deserves a lot of credit is Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson,

(07:55):
more than almost anybody else deserves credit for his courage
and his moral clarity this conflict from the very beginning,
asking the right questions, framing the conflict correctly. And now
today the American people are exhausted with sending hundreds of
billions of dollars to Ukraine. Remember, we had lawmakers on

(08:15):
this program, one of whom I have a lot of
respect for. North Dakota's owned Senator Kramer. Again, he's a
great man. We talk frequently. We just are completely different
sides of this topic. This is not about anything personal
with Senator Kramer. He was very polite when he came
on the show. But he said on this program that
there would be no limit to the amount of money
that we've sent to Ukraine. Apparently he was right over

(08:37):
three to one hundred to three hundred and fifty billion
dollars that we have spent on what so that over
a million people could be died to subsidize the slaughter
and entire generations of Ukrainians. President Trump just posted this
on truth Social It is breaking news live here on
this program, and I'm going to read the entire thing
word for word. President Trump is the peace President. What

(08:58):
he is doing is going to make the world a better,
more stable place. Joe Biden was barreling US blindly towards
a world war, Donald Trump writes on truth Social Quote
think of it. A modestly successful comedian, Vlodomor Zelenski talked
to the United States of America into spending three hundred

(09:19):
and fifty billion dollars to go into a war that
couldn't be won, that never had to start. But aware
that he without the US and Trump will never be
able to settle.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Let me pause him.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
Calling a modestly successful comedian means that President Trump is
irked at Zelensky. You see, Zelenski wants to keep the
war going. Zelenski does not have a loyalty to his people.
Zelensky is captured by ultra radical Ukrainian nationalists that refused
to ever negotiate with the Russian government. There was a

(09:51):
deal on the table a week into the conflict that
was being brokeren in Istanbul Turkey. Boris Johnson was there,
Tony Blincoln was there, Sergei Lavrov was there, the Russian
foreign minister was there, and a deal could have been
brokered one week into the conflict that would have given
Ukraine more land than they would currently get right now,

(10:12):
and a million people would not have died. The United
States has spent two hundred billion dollars more than Europe,
and Europe's money is guaranteed, while the United States will
get nothing back. Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden demand equalization
in that this war is far more important to Europe
than it is to us. We have a big, beautiful

(10:33):
ocean as separation. This is exactly right Europe. Why don't
you guys step up?

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Because the same Europeans that were clamoring and rebuking JD
Vans are the ones that want us to spend hundreds
of billions of dollars on their defense. So they want
us to be able to subsidize their European social welfare democracies,
even though they're censoring their own citizens, even though Germany
is looking far more like Russia than even Russia is.

(11:02):
Europe did not step up to the plane because they
want America to.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Fight to fight for them.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
On top of this, Zelenski admits that half the money
we sent is missing. He refuses to have elections and
is very low in Ukrainian polls, and the only thing
he was good at was playing Biden like a fiddle.
A dictator without elections. Whooooo, Trump is calling Zelensky a dictator. Yeah,

(11:31):
I mean he refuses to have an election. And then
let's press pause here. I might say, it's the midst
of a war. Who could have an election. Abraham Lincoln
had an election in the midst of an American Civil war.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt had elections in the midst of a
World war. We had elections in the midst of World
War One. Leaders who are illegitimate suspend Democrat means and

(11:55):
norms to hold on to power. They could easily have
an election. Right now, Zelenski better move fast or he's
not going to have a country left. In the meantime,
we are successfully negotiating an end to the war with Russia,
something I'll admit only Trump and the Trump administration can do.

(12:16):
Biden never tried, Europe has failed to bring peace, and
Zelensky probably wants to keep the gravy train going. I
love Ukraine, which is very important that Trump says that.
But Zelensky has done a terrible job. His country is
shattered and millions have unnecessarily died, and so it continues
So let me translate all of this. This is President

(12:36):
Trump with a public salvo, because I guarantee you President
Trump has been trying to get Zelensky's attention privately. Because
President Trump is not just opposing Zelenski. This is President
Trump scolding his own intelligence department.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
The CIA Deep State.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
They are the ones that have been puppeteering Zelensky for
this entire time. They're the ones that have been configuring
this entire conflict. And the power of public scolding like
this is you better get in line or else I'm
going to go do.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
A deal with the Russians.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
The Ukrainians are getting mad that there might be an
end of the war. Think about that. They're getting mad
that this war might actually end. President Trump ran on
the idea of preventing World War three and preventing a
nuclear conflict. And President Trump says very clearly he's a dictator.

(13:35):
He's acting like a dictator. Absolutely. So the significance of
this entire statement is we are going to find a
settlement to this war, whether Zelenski wants it or not.
He does not have a say in this matter anymore.
Ukraine operates solely thanks to the subsidy of the American government.
And God bless President Trump for just toning out all

(13:58):
of the clamoring from people like Tom Cotton, people like
Liz Cheney. They all want this war to continue. Yeah,
President Trump says, no, I'm not going to listen to
the neo cons of the US Senate. Washington wants forever wars.

(14:21):
Joni earns. These these guardians of the forever war machine.
The same people who let Afghanistan last twenty years want
another twenty year ward. Trump wants peace, and this is
him warning everybody. Peace is coming, so get on our
side or peace is going to be stuffed down your throat.

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So much more on this that I could say, but
we have an action packed show. Next, our attention goes

(15:44):
to Wisconsin and the significance of that Supreme Court seat
has on the future of our republic will be right back.

Speaker 17 (15:53):
If you want to whine about how bad things are,
what's the evening news?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Buckle up, said Charlie.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Kirkshow well, that's a goofy intro who came up with
that one. Email us Freedom at charliekirk dot com. We're
trying out new stuff. It's uh, we're going to Creative
Engine here. Email me as always Freedom at Charlie Kirk
dot com. I want to add one more thing to
this Zelensky topic, which is that the intel agencies are

(16:21):
on defense right now. President Trump doing this puts them
on defense. It puts them on their heels. The Central
Intelligence Agency, the workings of the international intelligence community five eyes,
the deep state is squirming. They want permanent, forever war
with no end in sight. And if you even ask

(16:42):
them a crisply delivered question, why do we hate Russia?
I can't say that. Why are we at worth Russia?
They can't answer that. President Trump calls Zelensky a dictator
without elections. He's right, Zelenski refuses to face his own people.

(17:03):
If Zelenski is super popular, why doesn't he have an
election Abraham Lincoln did?

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Maybe because he's not popular.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
What he's doing is destroying the great Ukrainian people for
no reason whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Be right back, welcome back, everybody.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com and subscribe to
our podcast. Joining us now is great patriot. Brett Galashevsky,
Vice Chair of the Republican Party Milwaukee. More important turning
point Action National Enterprise Director Brett. Welcome to the program.
Run check out tpaction dot com Slash one hundred. Brett,

(17:49):
educate our audience, what the significance, What's happening Wisconsin.

Speaker 18 (17:54):
Hey, Charlie, great to be on here again. Really appreciate
you having me. Glad that I get to talk about
this mission critical operatus unity that we have on our
hands here in Wisconsin. You know, it was almost two
years ago to the day that I sat on this
show and I talked about how Wisconsin was desperately hanging
on to a four to three conservative majority of our
Supreme Court and that losing control of our court could

(18:15):
have detrimental.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Effects going forward.

Speaker 18 (18:17):
We ultimately lost that race in twenty twenty three, and
we lost that conservative common sense control and we saw
Domino effective things spiral out of control from there. The
Court immediately redrew the legislative maps, which lost US ten
Assembly seats four state Senate seats. They reversed Act ten,
which was a big collective bargaining win of the Scott
Walker Republican governor administration some fifteen years ago thought that

(18:41):
that would never get walked back. And then the Court
ultimately reinstated dropboxes. So you saw huge national implications out
of little old Wisconsin these last two years out of
losing our conservative majority on the court. But we have
another opportunity on our hands to retake the court back
on April. Firstservative named Brad Shimmel is running in our

(19:02):
Wisconsin Supreme Court race, and we have a unique opportunity
on our hands to retake our state.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
So yeah, let's go through this.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
So the significance could result in more congressional seats, voting practices.
I mean, this is the balance of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
When is the election again.

Speaker 18 (19:22):
So the election is April first, so it's coming up
really quickly here, some five or six weeks from now.
And the scary part is that we've only scratched the
surface of what a liberal Supreme Court could do here
in Wisconsin. Adding a liberal reinforcement on this court could
open the door even wider to what the left has
made very clear that they want to do in Wisconsin,
and that is ultimately scrap voter id laws. This is

(19:44):
a ten year term on the line. We won't have
another shot at gaining a conservative seat again in Wisconsin
until twenty twenty nine. That's the next time that someone's
term is up. You saw what states that didn't have
voter ide were doing in twenty twenty four. They were
still counting votes like yesterday. So we cannot afford to
have voter ID taken away in a top three swing
state because this could potentially remove Wisconsin from the electoral

(20:08):
map in twenty twenty eight, meaning that JD. Vans or
whoever it is that's running as the Republican nominee for
president in twenty twenty eight may not have a path
to victory with Wisconsin out of play. This would force
us to pick up a state like New Hampshire, Virginia,
New Mexico. And I'm not saying that that's attainable. I'm
saying that that makes our path a little bit more uphill.
It's the left stream. It's locking down one of the

(20:28):
Blue Wall states, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. And we saw what
kind of impact Wisconsin had on our ability to get
two seventy on election night in this past fall.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
So Brett talk about how we are announcing Commit one
hundred and what that is going to do at turning
point actional hopefully help make a difference here.

Speaker 18 (20:47):
Well, So this is a turnout election like we've ever
seen before. In twenty twenty two, turnout was a little
over thirty six percent statewide, so a little over one
in three people actually voted in the last election. We
for sure need to see turn out get on the
other side of forty percent. Our data alone identifies a
little over fifty seven thousand conservatives in Milwaukee County alone

(21:08):
that are slated to sit this one out.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Conservative voters that are slated to sit.

Speaker 18 (21:12):
This one out unless we go out and chase those
votes between now and April first. So our Commit one
hundred program is going to be launching in Wisconsin. It's
designed for people who see what's going on in Wisconsin
or watch shows like this and want to get involved
in some way or another. It's designed for people to
own their own neighborhoods here in Wisconsin, for people in
other states, if you're listening in a state like Illinois,

(21:34):
like Alabama, all over the country who are hearing about
this race having national implications on twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
And want to directly help in that effort.

Speaker 18 (21:42):
So when somebody signs up on tpaction dot com Slash
one hundred, which I see we have on the bottom
of the screen.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
That's great.

Speaker 18 (21:48):
You are assigned a list of one hundred conservative voters
we call low propensity or disengage conservatives, likely conservatives that
will not turn out in the spring off your election
unless we're chasing them, and you can go knock on
those doors and essentially hyper target your efforts down to
those one hundred people, essentially maximizing your reach with those people.
If you're from out of state, this allows you to

(22:10):
remotely make contact with those one hundred voters in Wisconsin,
give them a call, shoot them a text, write them
a postcard, which you'll have the ability to do on
our tp action app, which is wonderful if you haven't
downloaded it yet already. And for those that want to
take it to the next level and physically come to
Wisconsin and chase those votes in person, we'll put you
in a hotel for as long as you want to

(22:31):
be here so you can go and chase ballots with us.
This worked like a well oiled machine in twenty twenty four.
It really put the finishing touches on our effort to
get President Trump across the finish line here in Wisconsin.
We had literal hundreds of people come from out of
state states like Illinois, you know where an hour of
conservative activism isn't nearly going to have the impact that
an hour of conservative activism in Wisconsin will have. Will

(22:53):
train you, we'll put you in a nice hotel, and
will help you chase your one hundred votes. Tpaction dot
com slash one hundred. It's an all hands on deck
effort from everyone.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Check out that website. Tpaction dot com slash one hundred. Brett,
We'll have you on again soon. Michael Mills joins us.

Speaker 19 (23:09):
Next.

Speaker 20 (23:20):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Terrence Bates. There are still lots of buzz this morning
over President Trump and Elon Musk's interview. The two sat
down with Sean Hannity to discuss their relationship.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
Elon Musk leadership.

Speaker 20 (23:33):
Of the Department of Government Efficiency in the first few
weeks of the current Trump presidency. Mosk also using the
opportunity to lay out his view of the pushback that
he indulged have been getting.

Speaker 21 (23:44):
The president is the elected representative of the people, so
he's representing the will of the people. And if the
bureaucracy is fighting the will of the people and preventing
the president of the president from implementing what the people want.
Then what we live in is a eurocracy and not
with democracy.

Speaker 20 (24:03):
Meantime, the Department of Government Efficiency is celebrating a bit
of a victory this morning, after a federal judge ruled
on Tuesday the DOGE can't continue doing its job and
having access to government data systems. In her ruling, US
District Judge Tanya Chupkin said there are legitimate questions about
Musk's authority, However, there isn't enough evidence of grave legal

(24:24):
harm to justify a temporary restraining order. The decision resolves
a lawsuit that was brought by fourteen Democrat Attorneys general
who argue that Mosk running DOGE is unconstitutional because he's
not nominated and confirmed by the Senate. Tuesday's ruling is
the latest and challenges to DOGE. Two other judges have
already refused to block the effort, while a federal judge

(24:46):
in New York ruled to temporarily block the department from
having access to Treasury Department data. President Trump's pick to
head up the FBI and turn the imbattled law enforcement
agency around is one step closer to confirmation cash, Patel
will face a vote before the full Senate after clearing
a procedural vote Tuesday by a forty eight to forty

(25:07):
five margin. Patel is expected to win confirmation and be
sworn in by the end of this week. Once confirmed,
Patell is expected to be a central figure in President
Trump's fight against the deep state.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
Patel would replace.

Speaker 20 (25:20):
Now former FBI Director Christopher Ray, who resigned last month
despite still having about three years left on his ten
year term. That's a great check of your headlines. I'm
Terrence Bates.

Speaker 22 (25:55):
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the program. We have much to discuss, but I do

(27:33):
want to talk to you about how we both went
on this program Jubilee, otherwise known as the Woke Firing Squad.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Michael tell us all about it.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
So I saw that you had done it. I know
Ben had done it. You know, this show seemed to
come out of nowhere. And they called me up and
asked me if I would like to debate twenty five
LGBTQ activists. I said, well, that sounds delightful. I haven't
had enough death threats recently.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (28:02):
And I flew out to LA We chatted for I
don't know, two hours or something, And what was most
astounding to me was at the end of all of
these debates, I don't think they raised particularly strong arguments.
It was unfair in the sense that their view of
human nature is not grounded in reality, so it's going
to be an uphill battle in any case. But I

(28:23):
did enjoy chatting with a lot of them, And when
we got to the end of the show, there was
kind of a postgame interview and they said, well, what
did you think of it? And I said, I really
enjoyed the format. It was nice that I could take
on as many of these people with the best arguments
that they could possibly come up with, and I really
enjoyed it. And I hope I persuaded some of them,
but anyway, you know, their mileage may vary. And then
they interviewed them and almost to a man, they said,

(28:46):
Knowles is evil, He's a Nazi, he's terrible. Talking to
him was the most horrific experience of my life. And
I thought, why are they so angry? You know, I
don't know, it seems to me and I saw this
in your episode on jew Beleeve too. Decide that is grounded, calm,
generally amiable, willing to listen to the other side, doesn't
get all riled up and start screaming and calling people names.

(29:09):
Usually in a debate, that's the side that has the
stronger argument.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
The format is rather unusual.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
So just for anyone who has not seen this again,
we did this back in August. I think we were
the first of this new genre. Ours got twenty six
million YouTube views, hundreds of millions of views online. I
mean it was like a nuclear bomb for many reasons,
one of which was that one of the debatees wished
harm upon me and my family. Sweet people, but I

(29:40):
want to just give people a little bit of a taste.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Ryan, what is the cut? There's no cuts here, Ryan.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Do we have a cut that we could throw to
of just the type of debate that this is. And
I just want to reiterate one very important thing that
it is one person on twenty five. So they are
able to interject at any time. They're able to come
in at any time they want and raise their flag.
So let's watch Michael's first, and then we'll watch some

(30:06):
of mine. Michael at one fifty eight with Emily in Paris.

Speaker 23 (30:12):
What does transgenderism and public look like to you?

Speaker 3 (30:15):
It's allowing men to be treated for the purposes of
the law as women. It's men taking nine hundred sports
trophies from women in recent years, and they didn't take.

Speaker 7 (30:25):
They took nine hundred.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
This report just came in from the United Nations, actually
eight hundred and ninety trophies and medals across six hundred
women who were competing competitors across twenty nine different sports
and four hundred competitions that came out like yesterday.

Speaker 23 (30:38):
And they deserved them.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
It didn't happen, and they deserved them. Okay, that is
the logic I hear from the pro transcrat.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, thank you, they do deserve them.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's not happening, but it's good that it is.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
She actually did the meme, or he, I guess actually
did the meme.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Was that a trending? I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
You know, I got the reason I say, sometimes, you know,
camouflage pulls off. But I was thinking, thinking to myself, actually,
I think that's an impostor.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
As the as the train he was talking.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
You know, generally speaking, you can kind of tell. And
there was another character during this debate. A fella goes
by the name of Blossom, and he was a very large,
hulking man, but he had a wig on and everything.
And the notion that one would not be able to
tell from the shoulders and being like six ' four
or whatever, you know, it is kind of silly, But

(31:26):
that person actually did the meme. Which it's not just
the LGBTQ activists, but it's the left broadly does, which
is they will say such and such that you're claiming
is not happening, and then you provide all of the evidence.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
It's the celebration parallax is what it is, and my
celebration parallaxes.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Michael Antone calls it. That's right, and they say, well, no, actually, okay,
now that I'm observing it, it's good that it's happening.
And so there's something really funny about this format, which is,
I think that person you know was voted out pretty
quickly after that exchange. But there was one guy in particular,
really just one guy of these twenty five who I
thought was pretty good. He was at least engaging with

(32:04):
the arguments on a more serious philosophical and anthropological level.
I thought, oh interesting, I could really have a conversation
with this guy, and he wrote it out in like
five seconds.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
He was it Mason guy. I think he was in
mine as well.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
No, No, that guy Mason. I felt he was not
making very good arguments in either yours or in mine.
There was this other guy. He was a nice enough kid,
but he was he barely appeared in the episode. That
guy Mason. I felt he made a big, big mistake,
which is he was rude from the beginning, and so

(32:38):
he wasn't winning over the audience, or certainly wasn't winning
over me. But he also made the big mistake, which
is he started talking about something that he obviously knew
nothing about it. And you know this, Joe, You've done
a bazillion debates in your life. You know that when
you raise a point in a debate, you better have
a good three or four paragraphs.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
To back it up.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
If you don't, you get totally shut down, as unfortunately
for him, happens to him in our exchange.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
So I want to just give people a little taste
from my dialogue. This is a good version of them
being shocked, and I hope you guys understand this is
one on twenty five.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I have to keep on repeating it.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
It's exhausting because they're able to think about their best argument. Now,
mind you I had I don't want to say professional debaters,
but it is very Do you believe they're a little tricky,
little tricky because like, oh, you're gonna be debating college kids. Okay,
that's sort of true, but some of these kids are
like all they do is go on TikTok and yell
at people all day long, so they're a little bit

(33:37):
more elevated. So it's like hive mind against one person.
So as soon as you win one debate, another person
comes in, and you win one another person comes in.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
This is one fifty six, so I want to make
it quick. You're right.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Black Americans are in prison far greater than the percentage
of the population. So black Americans about thirteen to fourteen
percent of the population. Yes, but half of all prisoners
are black. So blacks commit more crimes than whites.

Speaker 23 (34:00):
Dow.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
They commit more murders, they commit more arsons, they commit
more kidnappings. For example, Blacks are thirteen percent of the
population and they commit fifty eight percent of all the murders.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
That's not a war on drugs. That's a culture problem.
And I mean, they just lose it. Michael, you there,
I'm there.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I saw I can't see the clips, so all I
could hear you was you smack them down, and then
the other person had nothing to say. I think you're
totally right about the hive mind aspect here, because they're
going to commit and what they're going to try to
hit you on is some statistic And if being a conservative,
I think statistics are basically bunk and not really worth

(34:42):
bringing up all that often. But you have to bring
them up because in modern culture. People think that that's
what debates consist of, So you need to go in
there with a slew of studies and numbers and statistics.
But what's crazy about it, Charlie, is you saw this
in your debate. I think you definitely saw it in
my debate because we were debating really just human nature.
You don't really need a dozen statistics to know that

(35:03):
a boy can't become a girl. Okay, you don't really
need a dozen statistics to know that it's good to
enforce the law, or that babies are babies and we
should protect them. You know, Ultimately a lot of this
comes down to common sense, first, principles of practical reason,
and basic philosophical intuitions, which unfortunately elude a lot of
these people. Even if they are professional debaters, in some
cases they have not been trained not just in debate

(35:27):
and rhetoric, but even in epistemology even how to like
know things about anything. And so I feel it's actually
people say it's an unfair fight because it's twenty five
verses one, But if you're a conservative who has any
kind of grounding at all, it might be unfair in
the other direction.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
What did you learn more broadly about left wing gen z.
By doing this, I mean you do a lot of
campus stuff. I do a lot of campus stuff. What
I'll tell you what I learned after doing this is
I know how shallow they are, but how comfortable they
are in their shallow political ideology. They have intentionally not

(36:09):
decided to deepen their understanding and so remarkably intolerant of
anyone that might have a different opinion.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
All of that's true, Certainly, we've seen that happening for years.
We know that the quality of education these days is
a little bit weak at all the schools. However, there's
another insight, a really traditional insight from our civilization and
from Christianity that comes out, which is that sin darkens
the intellect. Okay, when you engage in sin and vice,

(36:41):
it actually makes you dumber than you otherwise would be.
And this is something we all have to watch out
for because we all sin, so you got to be
careful of it. But for a grown man to show
up on television or the internet, or just broadly on
camera with a big win wig on talking about his
sexual desires and bizarre sexual practice, that is a crazy

(37:01):
thing to do. That is humiliating for the individual, and
he shouldn't do it. And the kinds of arguments that
I found they were making basically came down to, hey,
I really like this thing, or hey, I have emotional problems,
or hey I was really angry at my family growing
up or something. And so I have a great deal
of sympathy for people, but it's just it's evidence that
they've lost control of their reason. And the whole point

(37:24):
of education is to take your appetites. We all have
kind of weird appetites. Sometimes it's fallen world to bring
those under the command of your reason. So you say, no,
I'm not going to eat the fifth cookie from the
cookie jar. That's not going to be good. I want
it in some ways, but it won't be good for
me to eat that. No, I'm not going to do
that kind of weird behavior that's being encouraged by our society.
But unfortunately, modern education tells you the opposite, says, hey,

(37:47):
if it feels good, do it. If you have any
appetite at all, indulge it. Forget about reason. There's no
such thing as objective truth, there's no such thing as
objective reality. And it leaves these people ultimately not just
looking foolish in a debate against some conservative but it
leaves them very sad. I walked into that room, I
had a nice time. I actually enjoyed speaking to the people.
Even the ones who were rude, they walked out of

(38:09):
that room, by their own admission, angry, sad, probably some
of them wishing violence upon me, openly wishing violence upon you.
That's not good. That's not a good way to live.
And if you're constantly furious and angry and just butting
your head up against reality, it probably means that's something
in your ideology is a little bit wrong.

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play cut one sixty.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
How are you going to get people to stop being
trans I think we're going to tell boys that they're
not girls. They're tell boys if they're not girls. If
you're going to listen, Yeah, basically, yeah, that's what we
have done for most of met.

Speaker 23 (41:44):
For me, and I can promise you to God that
I didn't listen.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, well, because we live at a time that is
affirming the transgender delusion. But if we lived at a
more sensible time, probably you would have listened and you
might have had some And I think we should just
return to a more sensible kind of policies.

Speaker 23 (41:59):
How what is your not giving a solution on how
you would even be capable?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
And I think we kicked the fellows out of the
boys bathroom. We kicked the transfer, you're teaching out of school.
We just enforced the law as it was before twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Michael.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
I think it's really as simple as that. Not everything
has to be really complicated. And you could hear there
from that interlocutor and really from a ton of the
people on the Jubilee debate. They ask you a question,
you give them a simple answer, and then they accuse
you of not having answered the question, and it's really
because they don't want that answer. But I think what's
really most jarring to them, especially on this issue, is

(42:36):
how recent how recently all of this has taken place.
A lot of them seem unaware that in the late
part of Barack Obama's first term he held the view
of marriage that everyone has held for all of human history,
namely that it involves a man and a woman, you know,
both of them together. They don't seem aware that until

(42:57):
June of twenty sixteen, trans identify buying people were not
permitted in the US military. Of course not, you know,
it's contrary to reality. It shows that they've got some
psychological problems. It's not good for military fitness. They don't
seem to realize that until the twenty sixteen election cycle,
there wasn't a big blow up fight over bathrooms and
some big push from the left to send men into

(43:19):
the girl's bathroom. They don't understand how recently this is.
I guess my question for all of them is one
of the basic conservative objections to all of modern liberalism,
which is, Hey, if statistically, everyone everywhere, for all of
history has thought a certain thing about human nature, isn't

(43:39):
there a decent chance they were right? You know, if
you and like five of your friends think the opposite,
isn't there just isn't it more likely that everyone else
was right? I don't know that seems persuasive to me,
maybe not to them.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
One more, I want to play here, which is just delicious.
Let's play cut one sixty one.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Hi, Hello, awesome powerhouse, the Blossom Powerhouse. Lovely to meet you.

Speaker 7 (44:03):
Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 18 (44:06):
I want to know your ideology, amount of transgendory is
on something that doesn't exist.

Speaker 7 (44:11):
It just sounds more like conservative propagandists.

Speaker 20 (44:12):
I kind of want to know a little bit more
about what you're trying to communicate.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
I think for all of history, everywhere, people have understood
the human person to have something to do with his body,
so like your body has something to do with who
you are. Now, there is an alternative view, which is
called gnosticism. It's a view that our bodies don't really
have anything to do with who we are, that the
body is maybe even evil, and that our true selves
have no connection to our bodies. And I see in

(44:39):
the transgender ideology a kind of gnosticism that says that
you could look like a man, you could have a
man's genetics, you could have a man's genitals, you could
have a man's everything. But if you feel on some
deep level that you're really a woman, then you are
really a woman.

Speaker 7 (44:53):
And I don't think that's true.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
And I think that the social effects of that are
really bad because it leads to the depriving women of
their legitimate rights in some cases, it leads to rapes,
notably in the last few years, and it also leads
to women losing their sports competitions and their scholarships. And
it's just disordered and false, and it also leads to
more people adopting this identity, which leads to very high

(45:18):
rates of anxiety, depression, and suicide. So it's bad for everyone.
It's not grounded in reality.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
That guy was awfully intimidating.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
You know, I'm not physically the largest guy in the world.
I suppose he could have just like thrown me down
onto the pavement, but I felt that.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
That wouldn't have been lady like, Michael.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
That would not have been lady like. It would have
undercut his argument that he was a lady. And right
after that clip, the first response that I made was
he said, Oh, you have no idea what you're talking about.
I don't that you don't even understand the words you're saying.
And I thought, you know, look, man, you could disagree.
I get you could try to disagree with what I'm
saying about human nature. I think would be difficult, But
you can't tell me that I haven't articulated a view here, okay.

(46:01):
And I think for much of the modern left, it's
clear enough for us who have some familiarity with history
and how people have understood human nature. It's clear enough
to us to say, oh, you you're really denying that
there's a connection between identity and the body, and then
paradoxically you're actually going in later and insisting that you
mutilate the body to be more closely in line with

(46:22):
your fantasy of how you really are or whatever. And
there there's a name for that. It's a gnostic ideology.
There have been many instances of a threat history, but
you know that's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I think to that found point.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Oh thank you. But they did not appreciate that. Blossom
did not think it was a profound point. And I
suspect it's because where they're coming at this is not
through a critical examination of human nature. What they're coming
at this from is saying, of course, look, I want
to do this, I have this hang up. That course,
I get it.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
I don't think Blossom could spell gnosticism because I don't
think they get.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
The first letter.

Speaker 7 (46:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Okay, very good, Michael Mills, see us soon. Thank you.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
Goodness.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Second hour coming up.

Speaker 20 (47:17):
Welcome back to this Real America's Voice News break. I'm
Terrence Bates. There's still lots of buzz this morning over
President Trump and Elon Musk sit down.

Speaker 7 (47:25):
The two, you may.

Speaker 20 (47:26):
Remember, sat down with Sean Hannity to discuss their relationship.
Also Elon Musk leadership of the Department of Government Efficiency
and the first few weeks of the current Trump presidency.
Musk using the opportunity to lay out his view of
the pushback that he indulged received.

Speaker 21 (47:42):
The president is the elected representative of the people, so
he's representing the will of the people. And if the
bureaucracy is fighting the will of the people and preventing
the president the president for implementing what the people want,
then what we live in is a bureaucracy and not
a democraty.

Speaker 20 (48:01):
Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency is celebrating a victory
this morning as well, after a federal judge ruled on
Tuesday the DOGE can continue doing its job and have
access to government data systems. In her ruling, US District
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but there isn't enough evidence of grave legal harm to

(48:22):
justify a temporary restraining order. The decision resolves a lawsuit
brought by fourteen Democrat attorneys general who argued that Musk
running DOGE is unconstitutional because he's not nominated and confirmed
by the Senate. Tuesday's ruling is the latest and challenges
to DOGE, which includes two other judges who have refused
to block the effort. While a federal judge in New

(48:42):
York ruled to temporarily block the department from accessing Treasury
Department data. Specifically, US and Russian officials are moving forward
with several goals following Tuesday's peace talks in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 7 (48:54):
While the focus was.

Speaker 20 (48:55):
To begin brokering a ceasefire and peace deal over the
war between Russian and uk Ukrainian President Voldemir Zelensky warning
that his country will not recognize any peace deal that
was reached without Ukrainian participation. Meantime, President Trump on record
this morning criticizing Zelenski for allowing the war to get
this far.

Speaker 15 (49:15):
And Jelinski, I will say this, he wants to settle now,
he's had enough. He shouldn't have allowed this to happen either,
you know, if he's no angel, but he shouldn't have
allowed this war to happen. First of all, he's fighting
a much bigger entity, Okay, much bigger.

Speaker 20 (49:33):
President Trump's picked ahead the FBI and turned the embattled
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Cash Patel will face a vote before the full Senate
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(49:56):
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month despite still having about.

Speaker 7 (50:05):
Three years left on his ten year post.

Speaker 20 (50:08):
Also happening today, a federal judge will consider a request
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Why do you think other countries aren't judge revenue strict
immigration policy.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I'm born as a man and now I'm a woman.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
What do you think the biggest threat is to the
United States currently? There's a reason that a lot of
the black community doesn't have a father, and it's because
of systemic racism America.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
It is the only country where even those who hate
it refused to leave.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
That's how you know you live in a great country.
It's time that we start talking to the next generation,
not talking down to the next generation.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
And that's what we're doing.

Speaker 24 (52:59):
Is it a crime to insult somebody in public? Yes, yes,
and it's a crime to insult them online as well.

Speaker 7 (53:06):
Yes.

Speaker 25 (53:07):
The fine could be even higher if you insult someone
in the internet.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
Why because in Internet.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
It stays there.

Speaker 25 (53:16):
If we are talking you face to face, you insult
me and sold you okay, finish. But if you're in
the internet, if I insild you or a politician.

Speaker 24 (53:24):
That sticks around forever. If somebody posts something that's not
true and then somebody else reposts it or likes it,
are they committing a crime?

Speaker 26 (53:34):
In the case of reposting it as a crime as well,
because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or
just reposted it. That's the same for us.

Speaker 27 (53:44):
It's six oh one on a Tuesday morning, and we
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Speaker 23 (53:52):
If you put it.

Speaker 27 (53:52):
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(54:14):
across Germany, more than fifty similar raids played out, part
of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to curb
online hate speech.

Speaker 28 (54:25):
In Germany, no voter on this continent went to the
ballot box to open the floodgates to millions of unvetted immigrants.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
But you know what they did vote for.

Speaker 28 (54:37):
In England, they voted for Brexit, and agree or disagree,
they voted for it, and more and more all over Europe.
They're voting for political leaders who promised to put an
end to out of control migration. Now, I happen to
agree with a lot of these concerns, but you don't
have to agree with me. I just think that people
care about their homes, they care about their dreams, they

(54:58):
care about their safety and their capacity to provide for
themselves and their children. Now we're at the point, of course,
that the situation has gotten so bad that this December,
Romania straight up canceled the results of a presidential election
based on the flimsy suspicions of an intelligence agency and
enormous pressure from its continental neighbors.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Now, as I understand.

Speaker 28 (55:22):
It, the argument was that Russian disinformation had infected the
Romanian elections. But I'd ask my European friends to have
some perspective. You can believe it's wrong for Russia to
buy social media advertisements to influence your elections, We certainly do.
You can condemn it on the world stage even but

(55:43):
if your democracy can be destroyed with a few hundred
thousand dollars of digital advertising from a foreign country, then
it wasn't very strong to begin with. And of all
the pressings challenges that the nation's represented here faced.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Were playing that for a reason. JD speak.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Munich was a game changer. It was a realignment, and
all eyes right now are on Germany. It's on Germany,
both in the long term and in the immediate Joining
us now is Marie Therese Kaiser, a member of Germany's
AfD party who scary Marie, Welcome back to the program.
Tell us what is going on in your country and

(56:21):
also the status of your criminal case where you were
targeted and had to pay a fine for what exactly.
Please get our audience up to speed.

Speaker 23 (56:32):
Yes, we already talked about my case in your show
and I had to pay the fine.

Speaker 19 (56:39):
I had to pay six thousand euros for asking a
critical question on social media to the illegal immigration and
the migration crisis in Germany because politicians wanted to get
refugees from Afghanistan without any background check or security check

(57:01):
to Germany, and I asked them whether they wanted to
have a welcome culture for rapists group rapists because statistically speaking,
the Afghan refugees are proportionately more Yeah, committing sexual crimes.

(57:25):
So yeah, that was the case, and I got fined,
And there's nothing new. But I had an interesting experience
because during this election campaign right now, I had a
panel discussion at a school and I got asked by
a student about my conviction for sedition and yeah, what

(57:49):
I didn't know was that the State Security Service was
in the audience and secretly recording my statement, and then
they reported it to the Public Prosecutors' office to initiate
an investigation against me again just because I told the
student why I got convicted in the past. So yeah,

(58:11):
that's the situation in Germany. Jade Vans is all the way, right, I.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Mean, this is I hope everyone understands.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
Germany is not a free society, does not embrace freedom
of speech, which brings us to the immediate election this Sunday.
You are a member of the AfD party, which has
come under major sanctions and major investigations by your own government.

(58:38):
What is happening this Sunday and what are the stakes
of your upcoming election?

Speaker 23 (58:44):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 19 (58:46):
I think there is a lack of political will from
the other parties to really initiate a political change because
the perpetrators are not deported, they do not even receive
harsh punishments. Instead, authorities are dealing with prosecution of opinion

(59:08):
crimes and alleged hate speech, so it's really ridiculous, and
they are also trying to ben and persecute us as
AfD as the largest opposition to the prevailing politics and
the second strongest political force in the country.

Speaker 23 (59:23):
We have to.

Speaker 19 (59:24):
Say so millions of voters support our positions and I'm
really curious for the election results on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
Yeah, So what are the major issues that are going
to be in contention for this upcoming federal election.

Speaker 19 (59:45):
Yeah, I think the migration and refugee crisis is the
top issue in these elections because more and more people
are realizing the dramatic conditions not only in the big
cities but also in the villages on the countryside. And

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I mean, we had three major terror attacks which occurred
down the last months during the election campaign, speaking of Magdeburg,
Scheffenberg and also Munich.

Speaker 23 (01:00:22):
And in addition to that, we also had hundreds of
knife crimes.

Speaker 19 (01:00:26):
So it's obvious that the great replacement is happening, and
it's the sad reality that everyone is really facing right
now on the streets.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
The It is a true crisis happening, and yet you
your party gets smeared. We have one minute remaining the
segment as a Nazi party, and the worst possible things
talk to educate our American audience of the smears that
your party has to receive.

Speaker 23 (01:00:59):
Yes, I mean there's there's really a lot.

Speaker 19 (01:01:01):
They say that we're national socialists, we're right extremists, but
all that is not true. And as I said before,
they really try to ban us.

Speaker 23 (01:01:15):
I think they are scared.

Speaker 19 (01:01:17):
They are really scared because we are so strong right
now and we get a lot of voters.

Speaker 23 (01:01:24):
Yeah, so let's just be optimistic.

Speaker 19 (01:01:28):
And I think what I really wanted to say is
that it's now the time to vote for your life,
and we only have one chance to make Germany great
again and make Eure great again.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Absolutely, Marie, please stay right there. We're going to keep
you through the segment. Right now, Germany has a choice
of what it wants to keep on committing suicide or
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There is a movement sweeping through the West for us
to reclaim our countries, to reclaim our homes. We'll be
right back. Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always

(01:03:16):
freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. We continue with Marie
Paris Kaiser from the AfD party in Germany. So let
me ask you a question, Marie. If I as a visitor,
or let's just say, someone who is native to Germany,
were to go out in public and criticize mass migration.

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If they were to say that mass migration makes your
cities dirtier, if it increases rapes and crime, what could
happen to that individual?

Speaker 19 (01:03:48):
You could get sentenced, You could get into real trouble,
like people could start attacking you.

Speaker 23 (01:04:00):
It's really dangerous. We truly don't have free speech anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Was there?

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
And I'm not trying to get you in trouble here
because they're probably monitoring this and you know they love
an excuse to come after you, so be very careful.
So I understand the sensitivities here, But help me understand
though that what what? What decisions were made that resulted
in the erosion of freedom of speech in Germany.

Speaker 23 (01:04:37):
I think that.

Speaker 19 (01:04:39):
The political parties in charge right now they made some
new laws and also made stronger laws to just go
after people who participate in free speech, and especially on

(01:05:00):
because we have a new authority who is just looking
what people are writing online.

Speaker 23 (01:05:09):
So yeah, that's also a problem.

Speaker 19 (01:05:11):
It's not only on the streets and in public, it's
also online.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Let's watch this video here of sixty minutes, just to
refresh our audience, let's play cut too please.

Speaker 24 (01:05:22):
Is it a crime to insult somebody in public? Yes, yes,
and it's a crime to insult them online as well.

Speaker 7 (01:05:29):
Yes.

Speaker 25 (01:05:30):
The fine could be even higher if you insign someone
in the Internet. Why because in Internet it stays there.
If we are talking you face to face, you insult me,
insert you, Okay, finish. But if you in the internet,
if I insilt you or a politician.

Speaker 24 (01:05:47):
That sticks around forever. If somebody posts something that's not
true and then somebody else reposts it or likes it,
are they committing a.

Speaker 26 (01:05:56):
Crime In the case of reposting it as a crime
as well, because the reader con't distinguished whether you just
invented this or just reposted it.

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
That's the same for us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Is this correct what is being described here?

Speaker 23 (01:06:12):
Yes? Right, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
It's beyond shocking and speechless for our American audience to
see this, and it feels as if Germany is becoming
tatalitarian at the very least. Can you explain, and I
will do this with the break coming back. There's this
concept cordon sanitar that I'm miss, I'm butchering the pronunciation

(01:06:44):
that I want you to try to explain to our audience.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
So basically, your party.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Is not allowed to have a voice in government, no
matter how well you do. And I want you to
educate our audience on that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
In just a second.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
Everybody, email us Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. This
is powerful stuff subsidizing this. So what you are seeing
is because of American taxpayer dollars, we are paying money
for this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Why are we putting up with this?

Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
Why are we continually spending hundreds of billions of dollars
so that people like Marie have to be fined and
potentially imprisoned and spied on by the National Security Service
of Germany. It's outrageous. Email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Will be right back. Welcome back.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
Everybody, email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Okay, I
want to play this piece of tape here. This is
CBS who joined the German police to conduct a raid
on a citizen for posting a meme. This is where
they're heading everybody raiding a home for posting a meme online. Now,
America would never do anything, Actually, yeah we do. We
have Douglas Acki who's facing federal prison for the same thing.

(01:08:03):
I have a feeling that's all going to get figured
out and fixed. Let's play cut four.

Speaker 27 (01:08:08):
It's six oh one on a Tuesday morning, and we
were with state police as they raided this apartment in
northwest Germany. He just to put it inside on Tomma
Kimany inside. Six armed officers searched to suspects home, then
seized his laptop and cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics

(01:08:28):
may have been used to commit a crime, the crime
posting a racist cartoon online. At the exact same time,
across Germany, more than fifty similar raids played out, part
of what prosecutors say is a coordinated effort to curb
online hate speech in Germany.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
I mean there's very little, Marie that gets me speechless.
Is this is breathtaking?

Speaker 19 (01:09:00):
Yes, it is, definitely, And it really scares me. It
frightens me because, yeah, everyone could be next.

Speaker 23 (01:09:11):
You never know when they come for you. So yeah,
you just have to be really careful.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
So help me understand. Then, looks as if your polling
is going very well. But is it true that no
matter how well your party does, you're not allowed to
have a voice in government.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
What is the truth behind this?

Speaker 24 (01:09:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:09:33):
I think what you're referring to is the so called
firewall which the christ Democrats are sticking to. They try
to entice their voters with empty promises and they just
copy the content from our election program. And Friedrich Maertz,

(01:09:53):
he's also a candidate for the Chancellor. He has his
so called five point plan in migration and the refugee crisis,
but it's nothing more than a reformulated version of our
immigration concept. And I mean there are a lot of
similarities with the christ Democrats, but the CEO is not

(01:10:18):
willing to talk to us in order to find compromises.
They only want to maintain their power and don't aim.

Speaker 23 (01:10:26):
For real political change.

Speaker 19 (01:10:28):
So they are already openly announcing that coalitions with the
Greens are also the Social Democrats are certainly conceivable.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
Marie, how can people support and what would if this
goes does not go well on Sunday? What does the
future of Germany look like for you?

Speaker 19 (01:10:49):
I mean, it will get worse if we get not
in charge. But still I'm optimistic and I want the
people to stay optimistic. So if we don't make it
this time, we make it in two tenty twenty nine,
and then we get as vital as Chancellor. So I

(01:11:13):
just want everyone to go and vote, because your voice matters,
it counts.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
So please go vote Marie, thank you so much, and
yes vote AfD. Vote AfD for the sanity of the West.
And I'll be visiting Berlin in May. I'm giving a
speech there with doctor Jordan Peterson. And during our speech
we're actually going to say all the things that are
very bot and see if they'll arrest us. They might
arrest two Americans on stage, but we'll see if I

(01:11:42):
think the American government will have our back. God bless you,
talk to you soon. It's just this is this is
sick and scary stuff everybody where that you could be
criminalized for posting a meme online. You could tell Marie
there has to be very guarded. It has to be
very careful because they raid her home. Secret police, mean police,

(01:12:03):
brought to you by the German government. And meanwhile, this
is exactly what jad Vance was going to Munichy threw
it down. Jd Vance drew a line in the sand.
And so we're not going to keep on subsidized and
we're not going to keep on allowing this to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
This is the strange.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
Death of Europe, as Douglas Murray has talked about for
quite some time, totalitarianism mixed with mass Middle Eastern Mohammedan migration. Yeah,
I think the German story a little bit different than
the French and the English story. The English story is

(01:12:47):
just a sad husk of its former self. The German
story though, because they're very productive, industrious people. I mean,
the Germans worked their tail. If they're incredibly precise, they're
great engineers. They got some great companies. Is all one
word guilt. What happens when you have a lot of
guilt and you don't have Christianity, you embrace left wing politics.

(01:13:07):
You need Christianity or some form of a belief in
God to be able to deal with your guilt. Otherwise
you go find radical left wing politics. Christ breaks you
from your shame and your guilt. Left wing politics does
not be right back.

Speaker 20 (01:13:40):
Tar ex bates here with your real America's voice to
news Break, Thanks so much for being here with us.
US and Russian officials are moving forward with several goals
following Tuesday's peace talks in Saudi Arabia. While the focus
was to begin brokering a ceasefire and peace deal over
the war.

Speaker 7 (01:13:54):
Between Russian and Ukraine.

Speaker 20 (01:13:55):
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelinsky warning that his country will not
recognie any piece deal that's reached without Ukrainian participation. In
the meantime, President Trump is on the record this morning
criticizing Zelensky for allowing the war to.

Speaker 7 (01:14:09):
Get this far.

Speaker 15 (01:14:10):
And Jelinski, I will say this, he wants to settle now,
he's had enough. He shouldn't have allowed this to happen either,
you know, if he's no angel, but he shouldn't.

Speaker 7 (01:14:19):
Have allowed this war to happen.

Speaker 15 (01:14:20):
First of all, he's fighting a much bigger entity, Okay,
much bigger.

Speaker 20 (01:14:28):
Meantime, Secretary of State Marco Rubio says his delegation reached
an agreement with the Russians on Tuesday to restore embassy
staffing in both Washington, DC, as well as in Moscow.
The two sides also agreed to promote economic cooperation as
they work together to find common ground on Ukraine.

Speaker 7 (01:14:46):
Happening today, a federal.

Speaker 20 (01:14:47):
Judge will consider a request by federal prosecutors to drop
corruption charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams. At
issue is whether the judge will approve that request. The
move comes after President Trump ordered the DOJ to pursue
the dismissal so that Mayor Adams can focus on helping
the Trump administration crack down on illegal immigration in the

(01:15:07):
New York City area. Critics argue that dismissing the charges
at the behest of the president makes the New York
mayor beholden to the Trump administration. They also say the
case reflects political interference in the Justice Department.

Speaker 7 (01:15:21):
Sixty four year old.

Speaker 20 (01:15:22):
Eric Adams was charged with taking bribes and campaign donations
from Turkish nationals who were seeking to influence him. He
pleaded not guilty. Elon Musk Department of Government Efficiency's celebrating
a bit of a victory after a federal judge ruled
on Tuesday that DOJE can continue doing its job and
have access to government data systems. In her ruling, the

(01:15:43):
US district judge said that there are legitimate questions about
must's authority, but there isn't enough evidence of grave legal
harm to justify a temporary restraining order.

Speaker 7 (01:15:52):
That's a quick check of your headlines.

Speaker 22 (01:16:07):
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(01:17:14):
the EPA. First, Lee, Oh, I gotta tell you, congratulations.
That's an amazing post, very important job. Congratulations my friend.

Speaker 14 (01:17:22):
Thanks a lot, Charlie, It's great to be with you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
So just kind of give us a perspective first and foremost.
Then I want to get into the gold bars. What
is going to What is your vision for the EPA
From a conservative pro growth perspective.

Speaker 10 (01:17:36):
Our Powering the Great American Comeback Initiative focuses on five pillars.
Number one, as President Trump talks about, we need to
be focused on pursuing clean air, land, and water for
all Americans. That's pillar number one, first and foremost. But
there are several other pillars that the American public voted
for last November that we take close to heart. One

(01:17:58):
is unleashing energy dominance, permitting reform, making America the AI
capital of the world, bringing back American auto jobs. President
Trump talks about ushering in a new golden age, a
golden era of success, and that's something that we want
to do our part. So this past Friday, President Trump

(01:18:18):
at the Oval Office on an executive order announcing his
National Energy Dominance Council. I was there with Secretary Wright,
Secretary Bergham, Secretary Duffy, and others. President Trump doesn't want
to spend just four years trying to get all of
these goals accomplished. He wants to get this stuff done

(01:18:38):
in a matter of weeks and months. So with that
level of urgency, we're all in to do our part
here at DPA.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
Let's play cut one thirty four. This got some headlines.
Let's play cut one thirty four.

Speaker 10 (01:18:51):
Hi, this is EPA Administrator Lee Zelden. One of my
very top priorities at EPA is to be an excellent
steward of U your hard earned tax dollars. There will
be zero tolerance of any waste and abuse, and extremely
disturbing videos circulated two months ago featuring a Biden EPA

(01:19:12):
political appointee talking about how they were tossing gold bars
off the Titanic, rushing to get billions of your tax
dollars out the door before inauguration Day.

Speaker 14 (01:19:23):
Shockingly, roughly twenty billion.

Speaker 10 (01:19:26):
Of your tax dollars were parked at an outside financial
institution by the Biden EPA, and it was purposefully designed
to obligate all of the money in a rush job
with reduced.

Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
Oversight, so some people actually thought it was gold bars.
For the record, however, it's very very good branding there.
What do you what did you learn about this?

Speaker 10 (01:19:53):
There's been so many developments just over the course of
the last few days since that video came out. An
example of one just earlier today, I was reading the
Grand Agreement.

Speaker 14 (01:20:05):
On page one of a grand agreement, it was saying
that the grand.

Speaker 10 (01:20:11):
For two billion dollars of funds. On page six of
that grant agreement, it says that the grantee has ninety
days to complete a training called you won't believe this, Charlie,
it's called how to develop a budget. So twenty one
days to get out over two billion dollars, ninety days

(01:20:32):
to complete training on how to develop a budget. There
is so much to this I've read now, the Financial
Agent Agreement, the account control agreements, the legal reviews. They
were amending account control agreements just days before inauguration day.

Speaker 14 (01:20:47):
So that video where that Biden epa.

Speaker 10 (01:20:49):
Political appointee, was talking about tossing throwing gold bars off
the Titanic, they they actually were not to what is
just you know, a few hundred thous or a few million.
We're talking about tens of billions of dollars, tens of
billions of tax dollars. I've been working with the Justice Department,
the Treasury Department, and others. We want to make sure

(01:21:12):
that there's full accountability and oversight established here. There's zero
tolerance for waste and abuse in the Trump administration.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:21:21):
Can you explain the nexus between left wing and goos
and government money.

Speaker 10 (01:21:27):
So the way that this was designed, once Congress appropriated
tens of billions of dollars here to pass through the EPA,
eight entities as primary recipients would receive all twenty billion
dollars as they passed through. And then once that money
was passed through those eight primary recipients, they would go

(01:21:50):
to a bunch of subgrantees. And in many respects, those
subgrantees were also passed throughs. And these were NGOs that
were very well connected and in some respects extremely newly
set up organizations where they have never handled anywhere close

(01:22:11):
to this level of money, to the point where you
have to work into the grant agreement training on how to.

Speaker 14 (01:22:17):
Develop a budget.

Speaker 10 (01:22:18):
So this is something that shouldn't have been set up
from the get go. The entire scheme is something that's
designed for waste and abuse. And get this, Charlie. Once
the money passes through those eight primary recipients and moves
on to those subgrantees, EPA isn't even a party to
the Account Control Agreement. EPA deliberately had stuff worded into

(01:22:43):
the Financial Agent Agreement and the original Account Control Agreement
to tie its hand behind its back. And the dates
of this stuff is wild. The Financial Agent Agreement September eighteenth,
the Account Control Agreement is November first, The legal review
on all of this is done on election day November fifth,
And as I pointed out earlier, they were still amending
these things January thirteenth, just a few days before the inauguration.

Speaker 14 (01:23:07):
Last I'll say is this, if you'll mind.

Speaker 10 (01:23:10):
Up front, the twenty billion dollars was given out.

Speaker 14 (01:23:14):
It wasn't like they gave out some tranch of money.

Speaker 10 (01:23:17):
And then over the course of time, the grantees coming
back to the government and the government is signing off
based on past performances and accountability and.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Proposals for the future.

Speaker 10 (01:23:28):
The government gave out the twenty billion dollars and the
onset and said.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Here you go.

Speaker 5 (01:23:35):
It's just it's unbelievable. Talked also about the return to
work push. How many EPA staff are there and how
many were going into the office before, so the.

Speaker 10 (01:23:47):
Total amount of the EPA. The numbers were over fifteen thousand,
and one of the things that I asked when I
first came in it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Was three weeks ago.

Speaker 10 (01:23:56):
Today, I wanted to know what the numbers look like
as far as attendance inside of headquarters over the course
of the last year or so. So since January of
twenty twenty four, the average attendance rate on Mondays and
Fridays was about five to eight percent.

Speaker 14 (01:24:16):
The most that.

Speaker 10 (01:24:18):
The EPA headquarters had on any single day, like the
record attendance was that there was one day where attendance
hit thirty seven percent. President Trump came in, he signing
executive order it's time to come back to work, and
I believe that it's important for productivity, for collaboration. It's
important for us to do everything in our power to

(01:24:40):
make the American public proud. We're seeing it right now
with EPA doing such a great job in California completing
a Phase one hazardous material removal. President Trump gave us
thirty days to get it done.

Speaker 14 (01:24:53):
We're going to hit that. We have our fifteen hundred.

Speaker 10 (01:24:56):
Workers on the ground epas in western North Carolina or
in East Palestine, Ohio, we're in Maui and Flint. And
now after the flooding that just took place in Kentucky,
we just receive a FEMA mission assignment to help with
that removal and we are on it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
So we have a lot.

Speaker 10 (01:25:11):
Of important work here at EPA. We want to make
the American public proud. We can't all do it from home.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
I could not agree more So.

Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
The premise of the EPA should be to develop and
to explore the liquid goal this President Trump would say,
how do we balance that with while while being environmentally conscious,
also having an expedited agenda to have the most energy

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dominant country on the planet.

Speaker 10 (01:25:46):
Great point, President Trump, in that Executive Order that he
signed on Friday, create this National Energy Dominance Council, where
we had multiple agencies all standing there, represented by myself,
Terry's right and Bergram and Duffy and other members of
the Cabinet there to announce this collaboration as partnership. President

(01:26:07):
Trump spoke about constitution pipeline which was stopped by New
York utilizing an EPA rule, which needs to get looked at,
because this was a really important project and, as President
Trump pointed out, can get done at this point in
less than a year. So President Trump wants to green

(01:26:28):
light it. We need to ensure that we are not
holding back that level of progress, and that we are
in touch with American innovation. That we understand that over
the course of the last couple decades, emissions have gone
down here in the US, that we provide these forms
of energy cleaner than so many other countries all around

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the world. And America sits on all of these important
resources that we will tap into in a way that
is better for the environment than so many other places
around the world. So if you care about the environment,
we shouldn't be relying on all these countries elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
Let's do it.

Speaker 14 (01:27:07):
Here at home.

Speaker 10 (01:27:09):
And not only will we be doing a better job
in protecting the environment, it's important for our national security,
it's important for our economy, and we'll be delivering on
what the American public demanded.

Speaker 5 (01:27:19):
Last November fifth, finally, one minute remaining, lee President Trump
wrote an executive order saying we need have water standards
float pertaining to sinks, showers, toilets, and washing machines. I
can't stand these low flow showers. What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:27:35):
Lee?

Speaker 10 (01:27:37):
This is something that President Trump he didn't waste any
time on, and he wants EPA and the Department of
Energy to work together. So at EPA, there are voluntary
standards created through something called the Water Sence Program, which
we have started working on overhauling. It could start as voluntary,

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but when government starts partnering with if the private sector
and these different companies start adopting these federal Biden era standards,
then all of a sudden, the implementation with the product
that American consumers are out there purchasing ends up being
adapted to what the Biden EPA had set out. So
President Trump wants us to look at the standards.

Speaker 14 (01:28:18):
Which is what we're doing.

Speaker 10 (01:28:19):
He wants us to overhaul, which we are, and there
are rules that the Department of Energy that are looking
to overhaul. Secretary Right has already gotten his people cranking
on all of that, so we're not wasting any time.
President Trump said this is a top priority for him
because it's an important priority for you, the American people,

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and for US Secretary right at DOE and for myself
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Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
The left is in the wilderness.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
This is a completely different terrain than it was in
twenty seventeen. It is completely different, and Elon Musk and
Donald Trump are teaming up in an incredibly powerful way.
This is a part of the Elon Musk Sean Hannity interview,
and I'm going to lead towards the culmination of what
this means materially. Is the country becoming more right wing

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or is it becoming more left wing? What do the
numbers actually show? Well, first, let's play cut sixty.

Speaker 21 (01:33:08):
It's like Trump duration syndrome, and I don't know, you
don't realize how real this is until like it's you
can't reason with people. So like I was at a
friend's birthday party and alle just a birthday dinner and
it was like a nice quiet dinner and everything was
everyone was behaving normally. And then I happened to mention,
this is before the election, like a month or two before,
I have to mention the president's name.

Speaker 7 (01:33:28):
And it was like they got shot with a dart
in the.

Speaker 21 (01:33:30):
Jugular that contained like the methamphetamine. And Raby's okay, I'm wow,
and I'm like, what is Guys like you can't have
like a normal conversation, and it's like it's like that
to become completely irrational and.

Speaker 5 (01:33:45):
We can all relate. We all we all have people
like this. And the Trump Arrangement syndrome, it continues. It's
long haulers TDS, it's long TDS. It's got a long
track record. And President Donald Trump and his team of
change makers JD. Vans, Marco Rubio, Scott Bessant, they're delivering

(01:34:09):
every single day. They're delivering for the American people. They
are disruptors of the highest order. And how are the
Democrats reacting? Well, this is Bernie Sanders saying Elon Musk
is helping fun right wing extremists all over the world.
They are so disorganized they don't know which target to hit.
They can't even remember all the things Trump's or Trump

(01:34:30):
is doing. Play cut one or nine.

Speaker 19 (01:34:33):
Do you feel that you have oversight when it comes
to what Elon Muster is doing.

Speaker 13 (01:34:36):
Look what we're seeing right now, Caitlin is it's very
dangerous moment. I'm laughing here, but it is not funny.
This country is moving very rapidly under Trump into an
authoritarian form of society. Elon Musk is clearly running the show.
The wealthiest person in the world, who has enormous conflicts

(01:34:58):
of interests, who is helping to fund right wing extremist
organizations all over the world, who is looking forward to
get massive tax breaks from Congress.

Speaker 7 (01:35:10):
He's running the show.

Speaker 5 (01:35:13):
So they're yammering a lot on TV, a lot of clamoring,
a lot of chatter.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
What does this mean?

Speaker 5 (01:35:20):
Well, this is the most important piece of tape we're
going to play today. The electorate has been remade. The
work that we are doing in the grassroots at Turning
Point Action, the work that we are resuming tomorrow on
college campuses, the country is becoming profoundly more right wing.
The way that people get news only the news is
now something that you talk about happened, Did you see

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that clip of that person?

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
Or that You don't actually watch the news as much anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
It's like little snippets of seeing little eventful moments, and
that's it. It's no longer monetizable the way it once was.
It's white noise. But Donald Trump has remade the electorate.
Play cut one eleven.

Speaker 16 (01:36:01):
Donald Trump and the Republican Party has changed the electorate.
What do I mean by that, Well, let's take a
look at party identification Democrats versus Republicans. You go back
to twenty seventeen, five points more of the electorate.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Was Democrats than Republicans.

Speaker 16 (01:36:14):
You go to twenty twenty one when Joe Biden was
starting out, Look at that six points more of the
electorate was Democrats than Republicans. But look at what's happened
in February of twenty twenty five. Look at this, Republicans.
There are more Republicans in the electorate than there are Democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Republican plus two.

Speaker 16 (01:36:30):
So Donald Trump and the Republicans have remade the electorate.
They've turned some people over from being Democrats or independents
to become Republicans. New folks have entered the electorate who
are more Republican leaning. And so when you combine that
with the fact that Republicans are really, really behind Donald Trump,
all of a sudden, you get a winning recipe whereby
you break the normal rules of politics and give Donald
Trump that positive net approval rating.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
There are more Republicans than Democrats in this country, and
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Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
See then,