The Charlie Kirk Show, February 20, 2025

Commentary on  Ukraine, women's sports, weaponization of Federal government, and White House press briefing

Guest 

Zoe Hutchins

State Rep. Laurel Libby

Dr. Matthew Mehan 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts. Now, I'm gonna try out
a new chant for you. All right, how about this one?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey? Hey RFK, hands off the f DA.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey, hey RFK.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Hands off THEFTDA.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Hey hey rf hey, hands.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Off the DA. What comes next.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
After we've discriminated against, deported, or disparaged all the immigrants,
and the gay and lesbian and transgender people, the developmentally disabled,
the women and the minorities. Once we've ostracized our neighbors
and betrayed our friends. After that, when the problems we
started with are still there staring us in the face,

(01:05):
what comes next? All the atrocities of human history? Lurk
in the answer to that question.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
The cabinet that he is bringing in so far looks
like a good one, it does. It looks like a
bunch of people who, yes, a lot of them were
canceled themselves, some like Jade Bladicharia for tremendous bravery and
standing up to really the bullies who had taken over

(01:34):
a lot of our institutions and federal agencies. And I'm
in California, where I deal almost exclusively with liberals, and
I will tell you the degree of relief that people
feel that they can speak once again.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Whether they agree or not, is really palpable.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
Donald Trump announced the External Revenue Service and his goal
is very simple to His goal is to abolish the
internal revenue services to let all the outsiders pay. This
is going to end under Donald Trump, and those taxes
are going to be paid and Americans tax rates are
going to come down.

Speaker 7 (02:14):
The fundamental goal of our immigration policy, of our border
policy of doge saving taxpayer money. The fundamental goal is
we want your children and grandchildren to be able to
raise a family in security and comfort in the country
that we all love. That is the whole goal of
President Trump's agenda. Permony's entire defense is subsidized by the

(02:38):
American taxpayer. There are thousands upon thousands of American troops
in Germany today. Do you think that the American taxpayer
is going to stand for that? If you get thrown
in jail in Germany for posting a means tweak, of
course they're need right. So the point that I try
to make to our European friends, and I think that
there are friends I believe that I know President Trump does,

(02:59):
is that friendship.

Speaker 8 (03:01):
Is based on shared values. You do not have shared values.

Speaker 7 (03:05):
If you're jailing people for saying we should close down.

Speaker 8 (03:08):
Our border, you don't have shared values.

Speaker 7 (03:11):
If you cancel elections because you don't like the result,
and that happened in Romania, you don't. You do not
have shared values. If you're so afraid of your own
people that you silence them and shut them up. We
cannot rebuild Western civilization. We cannot rebuild the United States
of America or Europe by letting millions and millions of

(03:35):
unvetted illegal migrants come into our country.

Speaker 8 (03:38):
It has to stop.

Speaker 7 (03:39):
Thank god it stopped here, but it's got to stop there.
Peace is in the interest of the American people, and
he's going to fight for it for the remainder of
his administration. Wherever war breaks out, he's going to be
the president of peace now.

Speaker 8 (03:52):
He of course, is a very good negotiator, a very
good businessman.

Speaker 7 (03:57):
He recognizes that a lot of these issues are tough.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's going to take a smart statesman.

Speaker 8 (04:03):
To figure this stuff out. But we've got that in
the White House.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
And I really believe that we're in the cusp of
peace in Europe for the first time in three years,
because we have leadership from the Oval Office, and we
haven't had it in four years in this country.

Speaker 9 (04:19):
Why do you think other countries aren't judged revenue strict
immigration policy.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
We're born as a man and now I'm a woman.

Speaker 10 (04:24):
What do you think the biggest threat is to the
United States currently?

Speaker 11 (04:28):
There's a reason that a lot of the black community
doesn't have a father, and it's because of systemic racism.

Speaker 8 (04:33):
America is the only country where even those who hate
it refused to leave. That's how you know you live
in a great country. It's time that we start talking
to the next generation, not talking down to the next generation.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
And that's what we're doing every day.

Speaker 12 (05:02):
There's a battle for your mind, raging information coming from
every angle, but the will to the sea.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I fear not.

Speaker 12 (05:09):
You found the place for truth, the voice a generation
that still has the will to believe in the greatest
country in the history of the world.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 8 (05:20):
Tuck a lot.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Here we go.

Speaker 8 (05:26):
Okay, everybody, radio stations across the country. We are here
in Tampa, Florida. I just want to say, I love
always like Tampa. It's an orderly city, it's a beautiful spot.
We are doing our summer student event again in Tampa,
Florida in July. Momentarily after the conclusion of our time together. Today,
I will be getting into a car and going to

(05:46):
the University of South Florida for the kickoff of the
American Comeback Tour. We mentioned frequently here on this program
how Donald Trump has remade the Republican Party. Donald Trump
has kicked some of the rough edges of the Republican
Party out, and this is more clear than ever given

(06:11):
President Trump's approach to foreign policy. I'm afraid to call
Zelensky a dictator, which of course he is saying that
I'm going to go visit Russia and Putin should go
visit America. We're going to go broker peace. And as
we are continuing the Great Revealing, which is what we
are living through, the Great Revealing, it's more and more

(06:32):
clear how not just ideologically weak, but also unimpressive the
previous ruling class of the Conservative movement was. This weekend,
of course is Seapack and everything happening there, but also
there is this other event that is very important to emphasize.

(06:58):
It goes to show what used to be within our ranks.
In fact, included in this event the Principle's First Summit
are people that used to be in Trump one, the
first Trump administration. So this is it's this weekend, it's
the Principle's first Summit. Of course they're doing it in Washington,

(07:20):
diseas only place they could draw a crowd. And it
is a very treacherous group of characters that are gathering,
some of whom I don't even know who they are.
But let's just emphasize a couple. John Bolton. John Bolton
was the National Security advisor for President Trump in the
first administration. One of them Alissa Farrah. Alissa Farah worked

(07:42):
for Mike Pence and was a top level communications director
for President Trump and his administration in the first term.
You got Stephen Richard, who we helped get rid of,
by the way, in Maricopa County as Marikopa County Recorder.
You have Harry Dunn, who was the January's one of

(08:05):
the January sixth police officers. I believe, Mark Cuban, Jared Poulis,
Chris Chris do you remember Chris Christie used to be
I was gonna say running around, but that wouldn't be fair.
I was gonna say he used to be running around
all of our circles, say he was that's a better word,

(08:26):
shaking around something like that. That's a bad visual. Got
George Conway. Goodness, gracious Adam Kin Singer. This year is
the roster of the individuals that have been extracized out
of the Republican Party, their top speaker, being a likely

(08:50):
Democrat candidate in twenty twenty eight, says a lot. What
do these people believe? Now they're gathering. You can call
them rhinos and all that, but it's much more interesting
than that. The one thing that unites every single one
of these people, actually the two things, is their belief

(09:11):
in neo conservative foreign policy number one, and number two
is their admiration of the security state, the unquestioning gospel
that is delivered from the Central Intelligence Agency, from our
intel agencies. You have Asa Hutchinson, who was defending kids

(09:34):
being chemically castrated. This year should give you such comfort
of what Donald Trump has kicked out of our party
and what you have kicked out of our party. Michael Steele,
who used to be the chairman of the Republican Party
in a time long gone. Jeff Duncan, who is or
was the Lieutenant governor of Georgia, and what they represent

(10:00):
is a statust wing of the now changed Republican Party,
and they know there's no place for them in this
Republican Party. They know that they hate dose because it
might actually challenge the money train that they have benefited
for quite some time. They don't want an open border,
and this is an extension of the damage that the

(10:22):
Bush junta did to this country, and that they should
try to do this conference in any other city. Try
to do this conference in Scottsdale or in Miami. Now
you could only do this in Washington, DC. It's the
only constituency in the country that would dare even entertain

(10:43):
this nonsense. But it's a very very important point because
as we look at this rosters you put it up
on screen, understand there are still elements of the Republican
Party that are currently in office that agree with all
these people, but their sleeper cells within our ranks. Now,

(11:04):
of course, we love disagreement. That's never been the issue.
If you want to be Susan Collins and you want
to disagree with us publicly, let's have at it. Let's
lay it down. I'll respect you. That is not the issue.
The issue is people who lie and say that they
are from deep red states when in reality they're not.

(11:26):
They say that they are Trump faithful, they say they
are loyal to the agenda. You go look at their website,
there's a lot of US senators that agree with this nonsense.
It's such a time warp back to twenty twelve. You
read this. A lot of these are just abstractions as

(11:48):
you go through this. The most important question, though, is
what do they believe is the role of American foreign policy.
Every single person at this event support sending more money
to Ukraine. Every single person of this now dead Republican
Party believes that deportations are cruel and unusual.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
And now you.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
Compare it with the current leadership structure, and it's not
even that the list is that bad. Of the principles
on their website, I mean, you know, we believe in
the Constitution. Of course, we believe in on that. But
it's so obvious why they're holding a lame rebel conference
instead of hosting the president. They're lame in their week.
Hegseth just announced an eight percent annual cut at the

(12:33):
Department of Defense. But let me reiterate, there are so
many people in the Republican Party in the US Senate
that hold these neo conservative neoliberal views. And just so
we are clear, what is a neoconservative. A neoconservative is
a modern day empire builder. They want to invade the
world and invite the world. Neoconservatism is an outgrowth of

(12:56):
marx societeology. It is statism at its core, that we
can go bring the American foreign policy machine to a
country near you and bring democracy to Baghdad, or bring
democracy to Kabul, the project of Karl Rove, the project
of George W. Bush. It really comes all down to Bush. Really,

(13:20):
there was a president who said all the superficial stuff
that all of these other guys say, but was int
ideological and practical failure. And the metamorphosis is continuing. But
the point I want to reiterate to all of you
is that there are still a lot of senators right

(13:40):
now that talk a good game when it comes to
President Trump, and they're not always there. Some that really
might surprise you, And there's been some that have stepped
up to the plate and have done a great job.
But there's other senators that there's some questions. One in
particular that is finally meeting with one of Trump's nominees,
and I'm glad to hear it, but it's been it's

(14:01):
been a slow walk towards it. We're gonna talk about
that in the next segment. And he definitely comes from
the foreign policy camp of Bill Crystal, from George W. Bush,
from Dick Cheney. For those of you in Arkansas, I
just want to ask the question, what's going on there
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We'll be right back.

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(16:39):
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(17:02):
is going to be produced out of this tour. And
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(17:29):
Email us as always Freedom at charliekirk dot com and
subscribe to our podcast that is the Charlie Kirkshow podcast page. Okay, So,
Vice President jad Vance has a very good friend. His
name is Elbridge Colby. I've got to know Elbridge, extremely
thoughtful man who is against the Bush Junta philosophy, as

(17:54):
we have seen articulated in the previous segment about this
ridiculous gathering that they're Elbert Colby has been nominated by
the President because he earned it to be basically a
third in line at the Department of Defense. It's called
the Undersecretary for Policy. Very very important job, extremely important job.

(18:17):
So Elbert Colby is not that controversial. In fact, he's
incredibly qualified. You can listen to his conversation with Tucker Carlson.
He's thoughtful, he understands the issues. He is as good
as it gets, and he has written the premier book
on the rise of the Chinese Communist Party, on the
looming danger, the clear and present danger of the CCP,

(18:43):
and for whatever reason, we haven't been able to get
a good answer. His nomination has been stalled and is
being opposed by Senator Tom Cotton. Now, thankfully we're moving
in the right direction here. Senator Tom Cotton, I've known
him for quite a while. I have nothing personal against him,

(19:05):
I don't. I think he's phenomenal on immigration. I think
he's great on crime. He's the one that was encouraging
the President to invoke the Insurrection Act during all of
the Floyda palooza stuff. So he's great on a lot
of issues. On foreign policy, we are on completely different planets.
I've said that before on this program. Tom Cotton's foreign

(19:28):
policy views are indecipherable from that of Dick Cheney and
Bill Crystal. And you don't have to take my word
for it. You can go look at the information and
see what he says. His criticism when it comes to
Ukraine is that Joe Biden did not do enough. He said,
we did not send enough money, we did not send
enough weapons. That was his criticism on Ukraine. You can

(19:50):
look it up. Please find the tweet, guys. I could
read it on here. And so what's really going on
here with the Elbridge Colby Tom Cotton collision is that
it's a philosophical and a worldview schism that is unfolding.
I've now sent out two tweets. They've been seen millions
of times, about seven or eight million times, asking the

(20:11):
question why Senator Tom Cotton is getting in Elbridge Colby's
way to become third in line. It's one of Trump's picks.
We don't know the answer to that question. It's probably
because Senator Tom Cotton is getting a little worried that
the Bill Crystal George W. Bush foreign policy regime is

(20:35):
coming to an end. It is sunsetting now. Of course,
every Senator is able to ask robust questions to get assurances.
All of that is fine, but it goes beyond that.
Senator Cotton has called the President directly trying to undermine
Elbridge Colby's nomination. Senator Tom Cotton has been trying everything
he possibly can to derail this and saying, oh, I'm

(20:57):
actually not trying to derail it. A lot of this is
behind the scenes stuff that is now, of course, publicly reported.
I'm happy to say though, that Elbridge Colby is now
meeting with Senator Tom Cotton, and hopefully that will proceed.
But I would love for those of you in the
great state of Arkansas to chime in and to give
your opinions or anyone. How would you feel if Senator

(21:20):
Cotton or other senators like him decide to vote against
President Trump's nominees. It's not enough just to do Bobby
Kennedy and Cash All. That is great, Tulsa Gabbard, But
now we are talking about the inner workings of these departments.
And Elbridge's book, which you guys should all check out,
The Strategy of Denial American Defense in an Age of
Great Power Conflict, is one of the most thoughtful pieces

(21:44):
of work. He is resolutely pro Israel obviously America first.
And the criticism that they have against Elbridge Colby is
that Elbridge basically has written that he does not want
to go to war against Iran. That's it. That is
their criticism. He has been very clear that we should
not get into a kinetic bombing campaign a ground war

(22:07):
against Iran, and for that it has resulted in a
tension point and you're seeing the ideological rift unfold. And
I have been helping lead the x and the Twitter
chatter here and again, I hope Senator Cotton does the

(22:29):
right thing. This is not against him personally, but I
can tell you if he does oppose some of these nominees,
that the grassroots of Arkansas are not going to like that.
They're not going to like the fact that President Trump
won a declarative mandate election and he's not able to
get his cabinet positions in and his sub cabinet positions
in Deputies, third and Control, fourth and Control. We have

(22:54):
one tweet from Senator Cotton about Ukraine, no timidity and
half measures. Time to send Ukraine the weapons and need
to end this invasion. Well we did send the weapons
that the invasion end, of course, not so, Ceder Cotton.
I hope you'll do the right thing. I know you're
meeting with Bridge. Get behind this nomination. Do so publicly
or vocally for else the grassroots won't be happy.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I'll be right back.

Speaker 13 (23:20):
Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice News Break
live from Seapack twenty twenty five. A lot of interesting
people here. This gentleman is one of them. Brian Mock,
a J six defendant who.

Speaker 8 (23:30):
Is now free.

Speaker 13 (23:31):
You were telling me just moments ago that Seapac twenty
twenty five is turning out to be like a family
reunion of J sixers.

Speaker 14 (23:38):
Yes, sir, it's been great.

Speaker 15 (23:40):
We've got a ton of guys out here, dozens of
other Jan sixers. I was one of the original forty
five in the golog here in DC back in twenty
one twenty two.

Speaker 14 (23:49):
I was fortunate enough to make bond.

Speaker 15 (23:51):
Almost nobody else once we were denied bond got out.

Speaker 14 (23:54):
So I haven't seen these guys in three plus years.

Speaker 13 (23:56):
I saw an interesting shirt here that said, pardon but
still not free. When you hear that, give us your
reaction to that. How does that feel?

Speaker 14 (24:06):
Is that your sense?

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (24:07):
Absolutely?

Speaker 15 (24:08):
The pardons were a great start, But we were innocent
of this. We should never have been in the position
that we were in. The truth is going to come out,
We're going to have the investigations. I'm working right now
on the Hill to try to make that happen and
us be a part of that. But right now, just
being let out is nowhere near enough. We were tortured
by our federal government for years. We were the most

(24:30):
hated people in America for years. The things that they
did to us. They took away all our liberties, all
our due process.

Speaker 14 (24:40):
We didn't have the protection of the constitution.

Speaker 13 (24:42):
So then do you still have faith in government after
going through that sort of ordeal?

Speaker 15 (24:46):
I do now we got it right and we're fixing it,
and we're going to be a part of that, and
we're going to tell our stories. This never should have
happened in America, for sure. This was some Stalin esque
Nazi crap that happened to us, and we're going to
go fix it.

Speaker 14 (25:00):
It will never happen again.

Speaker 15 (25:02):
I will scream it from the mountaintops because there We're
not the only ones.

Speaker 14 (25:06):
Our bop needs to be fixed.

Speaker 15 (25:08):
It needs to be gutted, it needs to be reformed,
and I'm gonna be up there screaming about it.

Speaker 14 (25:12):
What does justice look like for you?

Speaker 13 (25:14):
Okay, you're out now, Yeah you get to be with
your wife and your family. But is that justice in
your mind?

Speaker 14 (25:20):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 15 (25:20):
I've lost, just personally, I've lost a million dollars plus lowness.
I lost my house, I lost my career. I've lost family, friends,
my dogs. What I have left right now because my
truck and when I can fit in a storage unit.

Speaker 13 (25:34):
Well, we appreciate you being here with is Brian. Thank you,
appreciate you, Thank you so much. That's a quick check
off your headlines and the real America's voice needs break.

Speaker 12 (25:55):
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Trump sign an executive order saying that men will not
compete in female sports, but states are just ignoring it.
It's time for the Department of Justice and for the
Department Education to start to enforce this. It's a tragic
story out of the state of Maine. Joining us now

(27:24):
is State Rep. Laurel Libby, a state representative from District ninety,
and also Zoe Hutchins, who from Maine High School Track
and Field with a remarkable story here. Welcome to both
of you. Zoe, why don't you introduce yourself and tell
us the story of what has recently happened to you.

Speaker 10 (27:43):
Sure so, I am a senior at Lawrence High School
in Maine. I compete in the shot put in indoor track,
and this week on Monday, we just.

Speaker 16 (27:55):
Had the Class B state championship meet.

Speaker 10 (27:58):
And at the beginning of the meet, one of my
teammates came over to me and she told me that
she and the other girl poll vaulters were going to
have to compete against a biological male, and understandably, she
was very upset about this and very distraught and discouraged
because she knew and the other girls knew, that they

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wouldn't be able to beat this male and that because
he decided to compete in the girl's category, they would
automatically be knocked down a spot in the state rankings
and he would win the gold. So she was very
upset about that, understandably, and I was very upset about

(28:40):
that because no girl should be put in that situation,
and no male athlete should have the opportunity to step
in and compete against women and take away their opportunity
to be successful and to win and to have the
honor of winning a gold and winning the state championship.

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So that inspired me to respond to Representative Libby's post
on Facebook and just stand up for my teammate and
for the other poll of authors and any other female
athlete who ever has to face competing against a male.

(29:24):
And so that's that's my story this week.

Speaker 8 (29:28):
It's a terrible story. I have so many questions, but
first I want to get State Representative Libby on this represented, Libby,
tell us from your perspective, what's going on here?

Speaker 17 (29:39):
Absolutely, So we all know that several weeks ago, President
Trump issued his executive order demanding that states not allow
biological males to participate in girls' sports.

Speaker 18 (29:51):
Maine has decided to buck that.

Speaker 17 (29:53):
The Main Principles Association shortly thereafter came out and went
on the record saying we will not abide by executive order.
We are going to continue to allow biological males to
participate in girls' sports. And we knew it was only
a matter of time before that actually happened after that,
and that was this Monday, this biological male boy participated

(30:16):
in the pole vaulting at the state championships and one
and captured the podium that so many main girls have
been working so hard to compete in. It just is
tragic for them and it's not fair. It's not fair
for main girls who've been working so hard to have
their their chance taken away.

Speaker 8 (30:40):
So I want to now go back to Zoe here.
So Zoe, I'm sure there's a fair amount of outrage
locally about this, but probably quiet are people starting to
speak up about this, and just everyone is clear the
vault that won the female competition would have been tenth
in the men's. Just so we are clear, the one
that won the one for women's would have been tenth

(31:03):
in men's. Tell us about the energy on the ground,
our parents upset or most people saying this is what
progress looks like.

Speaker 16 (31:13):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
I really didn't hear much from the rest of my
team other than that one girl who was directly affected
and her two pole vaulting coaches.

Speaker 18 (31:26):
They were very upset and agreed that this should never happen.

Speaker 10 (31:31):
As far as the surrounding community, overwhelmingly, I have been
seeing and hearing support for our side and say that no, this,
this should never happen. And of course there are some
outliers and in the minority that are standing up for
John or Katy and are congratulating him on beating these girls.

(31:54):
But from what I've seen and from what I've heard
and experienced, by and large, I am experiencing support for
my stance.

Speaker 8 (32:06):
I mean, the side by side is remarkable here and
so representative I represent Libby. President Trump has said that
he might withhold federal money to Maine if this nonsense happens.
Are any of your Democrat colleagues or any of is
the governor anybody worried that this might interrupt federal payments

(32:27):
to Maine if they allow this to continue.

Speaker 17 (32:32):
I have not heard that concern from the Democrat leadership.

Speaker 18 (32:35):
And let's be honest, we have a Democrat.

Speaker 17 (32:37):
Majority in the House, the Senate and a Democrat governor.
So I think it's going to come down to that
that President Trump's administration is going to have to take
action and withhold resources, financial resources in order to ensure
that girls in Maine have a fair playing field. And
it's too bad that it has to come to that

(32:59):
that it would have come to federal action, but I
think that's the only only thing that we'll get us
resolution here.

Speaker 18 (33:06):
The main Main Principles Association.

Speaker 17 (33:08):
And Democrat leadership are pretty dug in on their position
on this, and it's going to take intervention.

Speaker 8 (33:17):
I would hope. So what part of Maine is this?
Is this near Portland or gus there Bang or what
part of Maine is this happening in?

Speaker 17 (33:26):
This was a state championship, So this was the Class
B championship for indoor track, and so this is this
is statewide. Zoe can correct me if that's incorrect, but
this is a statewide competition.

Speaker 18 (33:41):
These athletes that score the highest will.

Speaker 17 (33:44):
Now go on to regional competition outside of Maine. And
so this athlete, the biological male, who participated in one
the girls gold medal, will go on to participate uh
in the regional meets coming up, taking again taking the
spot of biological girls, females who've worked so hard but

(34:09):
have been denied that first place standing because of this
boy taking their place.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
In closing here and Zoe, thank you for your willingness
to speak out about this. Your teammates. What are the
teammates saying about this and others that have seen this
kind of injustice? Are they hoping that parents will start
to step up and defend biological reality?

Speaker 18 (34:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (34:40):
So I think that for the most part, none of
them have thought about this yet because it hasn't really
directly affected any of us until this week, And so
I don't really think that most of them are really
paying attention or looking when when it didn't directly affect them,

(35:01):
and on.

Speaker 16 (35:02):
My team at least, it doesn't.

Speaker 10 (35:05):
It doesn't seem like there's a lot of ready action
to step in and make a change, other than my
teammate who was directly affecting the hat to compete against him,
which is a big reason why I wanted to do
this and and speak out against this, because it is
a huge issue and if we don't stand up and
speak out now, then it's going to continue happening and

(35:27):
getting worse, and it's going to be more widespread. And
I don't want any more girls to be affected by this.
So I want to encourage any any other athletes, and
especially female athletes to stand up and speak out against
this and speak up for truth. We have to speak
up for just the biological reality in truth, that that

(35:48):
males have huge advantages over women and that we need
our separate spaces from them to be able to have the.

Speaker 18 (35:56):
Chance to succeed and.

Speaker 10 (35:58):
Win, because if we give them an a still take
a mile, and if we allow, if we continue allowing
them to step in, then women will no longer have
their own separate spaces, and that's just not okay, and
that's not something that I'm willing.

Speaker 16 (36:11):
To let happen.

Speaker 8 (36:14):
Well, thank you for your courage. I just wish more
adults in the room would agree. But the current set
of circumstances in Maine, as you well know, is that
creepy men should be able to terrorize women at their choosing.
So thank you about so much, and we'll be watching
the story very closely. Thank you. Look, this is not

(36:35):
going away, everybody. It's time for President Trump to enforce
the executive order that he signed and whether it's the
Department of Justice, Department Education, money has to stop flowing
the states that are doing this. This is not just
about signing executive orders. This is why we need the deputies.
This goes back to the whole center of Tom Cotton conversation.
That's why we need the deputy level positions. Were you
biological men that are still winning awards? And there has

(36:57):
to be a collision point on this said and Trump
has done the courageous and the correct thing. He has
done his job. Now it's time for us to enforce
it and withhold funding. And look, we got to start
to turn up the temperature. You can start with funding
about things that Maine may or may not care about.
But will Maine really go to the mat on this
of all of a sudden, Medicaid funding is potentially put

(37:20):
in jeopardy. I know that might sound a little extreme,
but at what point are we going to say biological
reality is going to triumph. The current set of circumstances
right now is that your emotions, not any evidence, allows
you to win whatever championship you want. I feel like
a woman. I could be a woman. It's the song

(37:42):
I Feel like a Woman is the entire trans movement.
It's time for us to be actively intolerant of men
masquerading as women and winning championships and under saying that
is only one manifestation of the trans extremism. It's the
one that obviously wins the most people over. But it's happening.
Do you know that? It is happened well over nine
hundred times. According to a UN report, over nine hundred

(38:04):
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(42:33):
Hannity Elon interview with Donald Trump. I think it's very important.
We've covered this previously. Let's go to this one here,
let's go to cut one thirty two.

Speaker 20 (42:45):
You know, I've known him for thirty years. Yeah, and
I've never seen anybody take as much as he's taken.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, And we've.

Speaker 20 (42:53):
Discussed this and I'm like, how do you deal with it?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Age? Who is well? You would say that to me.

Speaker 20 (42:58):
I'm like, what do I don't worry about it, and
you know, and then culminating into assassination attempts which resulted
in your endorsement.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
Well, I was gonna do it anyway, but that was
that was a sting about ye a little bit.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, the day of the assess I didn't know that.

Speaker 21 (43:13):
Yeah, I just sped it up, But I was going
to do it anyway.

Speaker 8 (43:20):
For as long as we've been doing the show, let's
get just the still image of Trump and Elenap We
have been talking about we need better elites. You see,
we reject the Marxist premise that we're going to get
rid of all of our elites. It's not going to
happen because of the Preto principle and the laws of
nature authored by Nature's god, God Almighty. There will be

(43:42):
people that end up at the top of your society.
There will be people that end up with a lot
of money, a lot of power, a lot of influence.
They just have more talent. The Swan song of egalitarianism
is just that it's a lie. What you're looking right,
there is a combo package that may never happen again.

(44:05):
It's lightning in a bottle. It is grace from the heavens.
The world's richest man with the world's most powerful man,
combining forces to deconstruct the administrative state, to restore US
back to a constitutional intent, to secure our border, to
restrain the globalists, to fight the woke mind virus. You

(44:27):
have private Citizen Musk and President Trump. It is a
whole new wrinkle in Trump two point zero that none
of us saw coming. Even a year ago. There were
some whispers that Trump that Musk might donate. Musk did
the Twitter and the X thing, and Elon has gone
all in to be a phenomenally loyal friend and fighter

(44:51):
for President Trump. On top of that, Elon Musk tweeted
in favor of Jade Vance, saying that jd Vance has
been an excellent vice president and that he hopes he'll
become the forty eighth president, preemptively endorsing Jade Vance for
twenty twenty eight, of which I happen to agree what
we are seeing potentially, and I don't want to get
too ahead of my skis, but if we do our job,

(45:12):
we could be entering a packs Americana. We could be
entering a sequence of leaders democratically elected through within our
constitutional republic system. That is not just a four year
reign or an eight year reign. We're talking about the
opportunity again. This way, we must stay humble and hungry,
the two things every single day. Stay humble and hungry.

(45:34):
What is the opposition doing, what is the grassroots doing?
Can't forget why we're here. Fulfill the mandate. Understand that
not every day is going to be good. They'll be
ups and downs with the ebbs and flows, They'll be
wax and waynes. But we have an opportunity with this
combo world's richest man, President Donald J. Trump, to do
something that we never could have dreamed. But there's no
guarantees it could get derailed in one day. We could

(45:55):
make one bad decision, just like Nixon taping himself water
get Nixon was one of the most popular president in
his ever till the Intel Agency took him out. We
must stay on our toes. Understand the Intel Agency's gonna
do everything possibly can to asymmetrically take out President Donald Trump.
That is going to continue. That's why he must stay humble.
But just that image the most powerful person on the

(46:16):
planet with the richest person on the planet, Elon Munsk
is so wealthy he could buy Spain. Not an exaggeration.
He could literally buy Spain and not even think about it.
It's like a rounding error for him. He could just
buy countries. And what he is deciding to do with
his wealth, which you're always gonna have wealthy people, is
the opposite of what our elites have done the last
thirty years. Sorrows used his money to destroy the country.

(46:40):
We've had elites that have used their money to incinerate
the republic. He's using his time and his treasure to
revitalize it. We've been calling for better elites for the
last five years. And here we are. Email us Freedom
at Charliekirk dot com. Second hour coming up.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Here too quick, quick, quick, Welcome. You guys are used
to seeing.

Speaker 22 (47:22):
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Guys.

Speaker 22 (47:32):
Now, I don't want to give give it away. We're
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the winners. We've got two teams over here.

Speaker 23 (47:41):
We've got the official Insurrectionists.

Speaker 22 (47:44):
Most of this team are Jay sixers who.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Are pardoned by President Trump. Not all of them, young
guys in the back.

Speaker 22 (47:49):
I don't want to get you guys lumped in with that.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
They're just patriots that are here.

Speaker 22 (47:53):
And then we've got the unofficial insurrections. I just love
America over here and one one official. Now wait a second,
these are not evil equal teams?

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Is there this one? Yeah?

Speaker 24 (48:05):
In the subject of trivia, Yeah, this one J six
er is worth all.

Speaker 22 (48:10):
Okay, okay, we're gonna find out. Okay, real quick, what's
your name where you're from? Let's go down the line.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Santal I'm from Iowa.

Speaker 15 (48:17):
Brian Mock, Minnesota, Brandon Fellows, upstate New York.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Coley griff In, New Mexico.

Speaker 25 (48:21):
Michael Sparks h Cecilia, Kentucky.

Speaker 8 (48:25):
Christoph mcquaglin originally from New Jersey.

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I don't have a.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Home right now.

Speaker 22 (48:30):
Now you're on your rovan. Okay, we lost the young guys.
I don't know they run away. Okay this side, quick, quick, quick?
What's your name where you're from?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Anita House from Oklahoma. James Tate Grant Raleigh, North Carolina.

Speaker 18 (48:41):
Carrie Donovan, Raleigh, North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Diana Kissling California. Who is Seborg Wexler, San Diego, California.
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Speaker 3 (48:55):
All right, you guys, ready for the questions.

Speaker 22 (48:58):
I'm using peripheral vision. Okay, I'm using piple vision. First
one to tap gets to answer.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
The question which US President? Well, hang on, a second,
was that boy? Which US president?

Speaker 23 (49:11):
Was the general during the American Civil War but also
became president?

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Okay? Who hit first? She did? We're going, ladies for
crowd with it decide. Wait, I'm getting Oh my gosh, Okay,
Luke is staying over here.

Speaker 26 (49:27):
Okay, it's funny because I have the same last name as.

Speaker 25 (49:30):
The guy.

Speaker 27 (49:32):
There.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
It is ding Ding Ding Ding Ding. Okay, we got
one over here. Okay, the next oh, thank you whoever
did that?

Speaker 22 (49:39):
And the next tie goes to this side. All right,
next question, and this one is easy.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
I didn't know the first one.

Speaker 27 (49:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
I know this one. Be ready?

Speaker 22 (49:48):
Which state is home to the thing is not Rushmore
National Monument?

Speaker 10 (49:54):
All right?

Speaker 22 (49:55):
Right over here, we got him over out Dakota, South Dakota.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Ding ding ding ding ding. Who's got it? We got?

Speaker 26 (50:02):
All?

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Right?

Speaker 3 (50:02):
There we go.

Speaker 22 (50:03):
All right, guys, it's getting hot heavy. It's one to one.
Next question, be ready. I'm using my peripheral, but I'm
counting on you guys if I don't see it.

Speaker 8 (50:14):
Oh, this is terrible.

Speaker 22 (50:15):
Okay, now I'm just kidding, not terrible.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Question. Which state was the first.

Speaker 23 (50:20):
To grant grant women.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
The right to vote?

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I'm kidding it out of being terrible.

Speaker 22 (50:24):
Ooh ooh, Okay, do you guys want to hint? I
think worst woman that used to be in Congress but
isn't anymore New York.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
No, not in New York. Okay, let me.

Speaker 23 (50:38):
I'm giving you a hint again.

Speaker 22 (50:39):
You guys already guess you guys already guess you haven't
one last time? The worst woman that used to be
in Congress that isn't anymore Cheing Wyoming, Wyoming is right,
Liz Shaney, Liz Shandey.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Who should never have gotten the right to vote? Okay,
that's just me personally.

Speaker 22 (50:59):
All right, all right, all right, two to one, we're
coming in hot.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Question number four Okay, this one, okay, listen closely.

Speaker 14 (51:09):
How much are we on time?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
What one more question.

Speaker 22 (51:12):
Okay, what is the name of the national park that's
located in.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Utah known for famous arches?

Speaker 15 (51:23):
No, hang on, hang on, yes arches arches.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Okay, okay, okay. Last question? Are we done? Is the tie?

Speaker 14 (51:36):
Do you see why we kicked him off the team? Folks?

Speaker 23 (51:38):
Okay, one more, one more, one more? Okay, who was
the longest serving US president?

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Boom? We got a one back to you guys. Okay, right,
we gotta get this one. And we got the dancing
We got that dancing jay. Six are all right? Flag?

Speaker 8 (52:23):
Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always freedom at
Charlie Kirk dot com. As I mentioned, Hillsdale College is
America's greatest college. You guys can learn more at Charlie
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associate dean and Assistant Professor of Government at Hillsdale in DC.
It's doctor Matthew Mehan. Doctor, welcome to the program. Thank
you for taking the time. We want to talk to

(52:44):
you about how we turn to real justice in this
country and get out of the law fair cycle the
Democrats have put us in. Tell us your thoughts.

Speaker 28 (52:54):
Yeah, it's a tricky business, right, because if you have
to go after all these malefactors, then you have to
look in a certain sense like you're going after your
political enemies, because your political enemies did commit serious wrongdoings
of lawfair.

Speaker 8 (53:08):
So how do you deal with that? You have to
both be just and appear to be just.

Speaker 28 (53:13):
And I think, in one sense, part of what the
Trump administration's doing. And I think you're seeing Pambondi do
I think you'll see cash Ptel do this, Emil Bow
who's working for.

Speaker 8 (53:24):
Pambondi in the DOJ.

Speaker 28 (53:26):
I think there's a sort of politics of truth where
they're going to be very honest, transparent, and forthcoming. But
I also think that there has to be a kind
of prosecutorial plan laid out about both prosecuting a certain
kind of crime as a kind of thematic headliner, but
also providing a kind of way out of lawfare even

(53:49):
for our political opponents.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
So detail more of what that plan would look like
and some of the pitfalls that might be included in that.

Speaker 28 (54:01):
Yeah, So I think a headliner is perjury. One of
the things that lawfair needs in order to conspire and
malign and attack and slander and destroy one's political opponents
using legal mechanisms is sworn testimony. You have to be
deposed under oath. You have to go before Congress under oath,

(54:23):
you have to go into court under oath. You have
to go before PHISA courts under oath, and perjury is
a crime Section eighteen in the Federal Code. Perjury is
a crime of one to five years, and if you
lie to a PISA court, if you perjure yourself there,
it's five to ten. So it's a major issue if

(54:46):
you wind up prosecuting it because it actually squeezes off
the power of lawfare conspiracies. But it also has a
kind of powerful defense against the dangers of law fair generally,
which is you're basically trying to prosecute truth telling right

(55:06):
or lying. Don't lie. We are a truthful political body.
We are a people that is candid. We are a
republic of self governance. People have to do what they
say and say what they do and do it in
good faith.

Speaker 8 (55:20):
That's in the language of the.

Speaker 28 (55:21):
Oath of the President and the Vice President. Pam Bondi
mentioned it in her hearings. This is what they have
to rekindle. And so if you go after perjury, what
you're basically saying is, yeah, we're going to go after
some of our political opponents who perjured themselves and lied
in various ways to malign their political enemies.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
But the purpose of this is so that we all.

Speaker 28 (55:41):
Go back to not conspiring against one another to slander
and gin up full legal conspiracies of lawfare and attack
against our political opponents.

Speaker 8 (55:55):
So I mean, let's talk about Executive Order one four,
one five seven ending the weaponization of the federal government.
Tell us about that and how it can be used
for this purpose.

Speaker 28 (56:07):
So Bondie is basically put a memo out in response
to Trump's Executive Order ending Weaponization, telling DOJ we are
going to go after every instance of this and also
every instance of its appearance, because that's part of what
you have to do. You have to both be just

(56:28):
and look just and keep good faith. And so what
I think the weaponization executive Order is going to do
is basically wipe the slate clean. And I think they
chose a really good version of this with Eric Adams,
the Mayor of New York. Because if you want to

(56:48):
look like you're trying to be nonpartisan and ending lawfare,
what better way to do it? Than to say, hey,
the previous administration went after one of their own, a Democrat,
because he turned tail on their political program of bad
immigration policy. Right, he turned his back on that. So
he's not helping some Trump supporter in some high profile way.

(57:13):
He's actually helping a Democrat mayor who's had a very
adversarial attitude towards the Trump administration.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
So I thought that.

Speaker 28 (57:21):
Choice in following out this executive order was a really
smart one because it sends the signal, look, we're not
just trying to help our friends, We're trying to help
everyone get out from under lawfare. And so I think
it's a really so, really great, a great way to
move forward. But it's both dealing with the perjury question,

(57:43):
I think is a separate one, but also dealing with
the weaponization's head on and Bondi's got tons of things
to do on every level, but I do think there's
a headliner issue too.

Speaker 8 (57:57):
So I suppose the other question I have is not
just the civilians that have done wrong, but how would
you recommend a plan to hold the actual prosecutors themselves
that obviously broke conductor laws, like either Letitia James or
Alvin Bragg or Jack Smith, how do you even launch.

Speaker 6 (58:18):
We're interrupting this program for a special live report.

Speaker 24 (58:22):
Launching the first ever Department of Government Efficiency, uncovering corruption
on a scale that we never thought imaginable, terminating every
single federal worker that we are, that we have found
to be engaged in the corruption and theft and the
waste of tax pair of dollars, and already saving fifty
billion dollars in a single year, which over a ten
year period would be five hundred billion dollars. Just think

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about how vast and enormous that some is. Of course,
as you all know, he has renamed the Gulf of
Mexico to his correct and proper name, the Gulf of America.
He is renamed Mountainolli into Mount McKinley, part of a
historic effort to restore patriotism and national pride all across
this land. He has ended the weaponization of the federal government,

(59:07):
restored the Department of Justice to its true mission of
combating threats to this nation and keeping the American people safe.
He has ended all federal censorship of free speech. This
has been one of the greatest crises that has plagued
this nation years and years and years the federal government
violating the First Amendment to take away Americans' right of

(59:28):
free speech. President Trump has ended that and he has
demanded that all federal workers, all law enforcement cease any
effort to intimidate the rights of Americans or to police
their speech. He has also restored the death penalty at
the Department of Justice, including for illegal aliens who commit murder,
including for those who murder cops, and including for all

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of those who threaten Americans with heinous acts of violence.
The death penalty is back, Law and order is back.
The streets are being made safe once again. On the
public health front, he has launched the nation's first ever commission,
the MAHA Commission Make America Healthy Again, following the historic
confirmation of RFK Junior, to finally uncover the true root

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causes of the public health crisis in this country, the
childhood disease epidemic in this country, the spiraling rates of
pediatric cancer, and devastating childhood sickness. He has finally created
a situation where the federal health agencies in this country
will be focused on preventing disease, on keeping children from

(01:00:36):
getting sick in the first place, not sending them to
a lifetime in and out of hospitals, suffering needlessly. When
we can find ways to prevent this epidemic of illness. Then,
of course, on homeland security. Today, it is officially the
law of the land at the conclusion of the congressional
notification process that six Mexican cartels and two transnational gangs

(01:01:01):
TREND de Aragua or TDA and MS thirteen, so eight
organizations in total are now formally designated as foreign terrorist organizations,
which means that every single member of those organizations who
operates on US soil is now, as a legal matter,
a terrorist, and they will be treated as terrorists. This

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is a sea change in US policy, and this means
the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security,
along with the rest of US law enforcement and the
Department of Defense, are now operating in a legal reality
where these cartels are recognized as terrorists and there will
be a whole of government effort to remove these terrorists
from our soil and to degrade their ability to threaten

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their undermine any American security or sovereignty interests. Border crossings
since the day he took office are down ninety five percent.
I think it's almost impossible to even describe the scale
and scope of that achievement. President Trump, within days of
taking office, cut border crossings ninety five percent, and those

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few who have dared to cross are being either prosecuted
or deported. They're either facing significant jail time for trafficking, smuggling, harboring, aiding, impeding,
or they are being immediately removed from our soil. Either way,
at the end of the process, they are going home.
He's re implemented to remain in Mexico, and he has

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obtained historic cooperation from foreign countries all around the world
in accepting their deportees back. And he has used the
United States military to fully seal the southern border with
a historic deployment of both active duty and National Guard troops,
resumed the building of infrastructure. He has opened up Guantanamo Bay,
and he's using military aircraft to carry out deportations all

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across this country. And ICE is joining with ATFDA and
FBI to carry out the largest deportation operation in American history.
The criminals are going home. The border is sealed shut.
America is safe, sovereign, proud, and free. We are a
nation that every one in the world understands all across
this planet. You do not come here illegally. You will

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not get in. You will go to jail, you will
go home, you will not succeed. This is the biggest
and most successful change in any area of law enforcement
that this nation has ever seen, and he did it
in under one month.

Speaker 25 (01:03:28):
Thank you, Yes, well, Thank you, Caroline, Thank you Stevid.
You know, one of things that President Trump cares most
about his job creation, and it was about seven years ago.
I had the honor of joining you in this room
for the first time, and it looks like we've created
a lot more jobs for the last month. Look at

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how many people are here. My estimate is about one
hundred and eighty, but I didn't count.

Speaker 24 (01:03:52):
So thank you.

Speaker 25 (01:03:52):
It's really an honor to be back here. I think
that I just want to go over a few thigs
and then hand it off to Mike. The first is
that the President has told us to prioritize fighting inflation.
And he had to do that because, as you know,
President Biden let inflation get completely out of control, and
he did it with policies that made no sense. They
made no sense. You know a lot of times people

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say to us, our friends of journalists, why are you
doing that? But you know, I like to think why
did they do that? Why did they spend so much money?
And then why did they fed print so much money
so that we had inflation as high as we've ever
seen since sheby Carter? So why did they do that?
So we're addressing inflation. We didn't have to address it
in the first turn because it was always in the ones,
almost always. But we're going to get it back there.

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And how are we doing it? Well, we're doing it
with a plan that President Trump and I and others
have talked about in the oval that involves like every
level of fighting inflation. First the bacroeconomic level. We're cutting spending.
We're cutting spending in negotiations with people on the hill,
We're cutting spending with the advice of our IT consultant,
Elon Musk. And then we're also looking into supply side,

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like restoring Trump's tax cuts, maybe even expensing new factories
so that there is an explosion of supply. If you
have an explosion of supply at a reduction in government demand,
then inflation goes way down. And then one of the
things that you will want to say is, well, what
are you going to see it? Well, the first thing
that you'll see when the markets believe that we're going

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to get inflation under control is that the ten year
treasury rate goes down because that's how they think about
future expected inflation. And so we're still going to see
some memory of Biden's inflation. It's not going to go
away in a month. But the ten year treasury before
the last consumer price index had dropped about forty basis points.
Forty basis points because markets were optimistic about our ability

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to fight inflation. Forty basis points is kind of not
a fun thing to say. I cottomists talked that way.
I apologize. But the way to think about it is
for a typical mortgage, if that affects the mortgage rate,
then it's going to save a typical family buying a
house about one thousand bucks a year. And that's just
at our first month.

Speaker 8 (01:05:56):
Okay.

Speaker 25 (01:05:57):
The second thing we've done is we've had a lot
of trade talks. In fact, I was just meeting a
minister from Mexico with Howard Letnik just a couple of
hours ago, and we're talking about reciprocal trade, and we're
also talking about the fetnal crisis, and so reciprocal trade
is about our government treating other governments the way they
treat us. We want trade to be fair. It turns

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out that Americans have been disadvantaged by foreign governments over
and over, and President Trump wants it to stop. And
the fact that struck me as most noticeable when I
started to look at what President Trump was asking us
to do, is that last year, last year, we have data,
US companies paid three hundred and seventy billion dollars in
taxes to foreign governments three hundred and seventy billion. Last year,

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foreign multinationals paid US fifty seven billion dollars in taxes.
We have one quarter of world GDP, they have three
quarters of world GDP, and we're paying three seventy they're
paying fifty seven. This is not reciprocal. We're going to
try or we're going to fix it. The other thing
that we've done is we've had an all of the
above energy approach that's led by Doug Bergham and Chris

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and a really large team EPA, and we've already made
so many actions that are going to affect the price
of energy and lower inflation. We've opened up six hundred
and twenty five million acres to energy exploration. We've cut
fifty years of red tape that makes it so you
can't have purbits. And we've even made it so that

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when you go home, if you get a new one,
then you can take a shower, or flush a toilet,
or read under a light bulb. We're doing that too.
So finally, let's just think about the facts that we
can see right now that we think are awesome. So
guess what. Small business optimism has gone up by the

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most ever since President Trump came in. Ism, which is
the measure of what's going on in manufacturing, it's expanding
again for the first time in years. CEO confidence is
the highest it's been in years. And the reason the
reason people are thinking this is that our policies give

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people cause for optimism. And then I want to reiterate
what Stephen Miller said, because it's so important, and it's
so important for financial markets to start to digest this
that if say the Treasury secretary or the any cabinet
secretary with Elad Musk is able to find some savings,
say one hundred billion dollars, well in CBO land, that's

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actually like about ten times that or maybe twelve times
that over a ten year window. And so when you're
thinking about the negotiations right now over reconciliation and thinking
about well four trillion and five trillion, well those numbers
in terms of the savings are going to end up
being small because of all the ways that we're finding.
And so we're incredibly optimistic about the future of inflation

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and the future of our cootomy. And we're optimistic because
we're making so much progress so far and we already
see it in market prices.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
And with that, off the bike.

Speaker 16 (01:08:59):
Thanksg.

Speaker 27 (01:09:01):
Well, lookod afternoon. What a month and what a sea
change in our foreign policy. In addition to what we're
doing on the border and restoring American sovereignty, and addition
to what we're doing in our economy and the job
creation and the inflation reduction, we are bringing the world

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back to where it was at the end of President
Trump's first term, which is a world of peace, prosperity
and looking forward and getting us out of the chaos
that we've just seen over the last four years. So
over the last month, just to name a few, I
had the honor of sitting in the Oval office, as

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President Trump spoke with President Putin and then immediately spoke
with President Zelenski, and both of them said only President
Trump could bring both sides to the table, and only
President Trump could stop the horrific fighting that has been
going on now for the better part of four years,

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and that only President Trump could drive the world back
to peace. Both of those leaders said that in back
to back calls, and of course we just had our
historic talks mediated by our good friends and partners Saudi Arabia.
We give great thanks to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman

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for hosting and sat down for the first time in
years with the Russians and talked about a path forward
with peace. On top of that, and one of the
things that led to that was a tremendous confidence building
measure that we had with the release of Mark Fogel.
Our mind everyone, the last time that we had an
American released from the Russians, either we gave up a

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deadly spy, pressured our allies to give up a lethal killer,
or we released under the Biden administration, the world's most
notorious arms dealer, Victor boot who, by the way, had
one of his main clients for arms, the cartels in
Mexico and Central America.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
We gave up none of that.

Speaker 27 (01:11:11):
This was released as a confidence building measure, working with
our great Middle East Envoy Steve Whitkoff and our Secretary
of State as a first step towards opening these talks
and then moving forward towards peace. On top of that,
we've secured just in a month the return of a
dozen twelve American hostages from Russia, from Bulgaria, from Venezuela,

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the Taliban and Hamas. Excuse me, that's from Belarus, not Bulgaria.
We also had, for the first time in quite some time,
we took out a senior leader of ISIS, an international
financier and recruiter that the military had been trying to
take out for quite some time and wasn't able to

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do so. Frankly because of a bureaucratic approval process. President
Trump said, take him out, and that ISIS financier and
leader is no longer on this earth. We've also taken
action to eliminate other terrorist organizations in the Middle East.
We drove before the President was even in office, he

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started talking consequences for people that would hold Americans Heretofore,
there's been nothing but upside. You take an American, you
get some better deal. You take another one, maybe you
get a better deal. No more, there is now nothing
but downside for taking Americans illegally, either as hostages or
illegal detainees. And when President Trump sent a very clear

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message across the Middle East, but particularly to Hamas, that
there would be all hell to pay, we suddenly saw
a breakthrough. And now we just saw the release of
yet another group of hostages. There have been dozens now,
including two Americans that we've seen one again reunited with
their families. As part of the talks with King of Dullah,

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he offered, and I think the entire world is graciously
accepted to take two thousand sick children, cancer patients and
others out of Gaza as a humanitarian As a humanitarian gesture,
two thousand Gozins will come out of that hell hole

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that it is, that wasteland that Gaza is right now
with unexploded ordinance, with debris everywhere, with no sewage, with
no water. And President Trump has put forward a plan
to deal with the practical reality that is one point
eight million Gosins now truly suffering. And then you know,

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just to bring it back to our own hemisphere. We've seen,
literally in the last month, after years of national security experts,
that generals in charge and others testifying and ringing the
alarm bells about the Chinese Communist Party's presence in our
own hemisphere, particularly in the Panama Canal, we're seeing the

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leadership of Panama step away from the Belton Road Program,
move away from China and back towards the United States,
and even enter into talks and other negotiations about addressing
the ports on either side of the canal. And then finally,
last but not least, we've had four world leaders in

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the White House in the Oval Office. We've had the
Prime Minister of Japan, the Prime Minister of India, the
King of Jordan, and of course the Prime Minister of
Israel just in the last four weeks. And next week
we'll have the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, and
we'll have the President of France Macrone. So President Trump

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is on what we call Trump warp speed. We are
all we are all honored to be really serving under
his leadership and his vision. And truly, you know, when
we all say, and the President himself says says, he
is a president of peace. He is a president focused
on restoring stability. I think the entire world saw what

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the world will look like without strong American leadership in
the last four years, and it's truly been an honor
to get us back to where we were and back
on track under President Trump's leadership.

Speaker 11 (01:15:33):
Thank you, Mike, thank you, thank you everybody. I'm sure
you're very eager to ask questions of these very smart
people working very hard on behalf of the president. We
do have somebody in our new media seat today. We
have John Stoll, who is the head of News at X.
As you all know, you're all on X. It's home
to hundreds of millions of users, a large contingent of

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independent journalists and news organizations across geographies and political spectrum
rooms and at the same time, ext remains the go
to platform for many legacy news outlets, and I know,
as I mentioned, many of the reporters in this room
use X to attract eyeballs to your work. Prior to
joining X, John spent two decades in journalism, including several

(01:16:15):
years as an editor at The Wall Street Journal. We
are excited to have him in the briefing room today,
John will let you kick it off, and as I
said at the top, please direct your question to the
individual up here who you'd like and answer from John,
why don't you begin?

Speaker 16 (01:16:29):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 26 (01:16:30):
I am sitting in for a thriving ecosystem of journalists,
independent and emerging news organizations who do depend on X
for publicity for a business model, and so I look
forward to seeing many of them in the seat in
months and years to come out.

Speaker 16 (01:16:47):
So thank you Caroline for opening this seat up to
new media.

Speaker 26 (01:16:51):
It really is a testament not only to your open mindedness,
but also to innovation that you'd actually think about.

Speaker 16 (01:16:58):
You folks that are not traditionally credential to.

Speaker 26 (01:17:00):
Be in this room, to be in this room and
not only have a question, but also to witness. You know,
this is a very important intersection of power and the
free press, and so just the ability to witness this
and be part of it, it brings everybody's game up.
So thank you for that. I think this is for Mike. Well,
my question is about Ukraine. Sure, for about more than

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ten years, I've been fascinated, like many with what's going on.

Speaker 16 (01:17:28):
Was in northern Europe.

Speaker 26 (01:17:31):
Working out of the Baltics when Crimea was annexed and
was a lot a lot of this came on Twitter,
the platform used to be known as Twitter.

Speaker 8 (01:17:41):
Was a lot of.

Speaker 26 (01:17:42):
European leaders would would would talk about their disappointment and
solidarity with Ukraine, but when it came to actually doing something,
it felt like they were.

Speaker 16 (01:17:50):
Passing a hot potato and set it over.

Speaker 18 (01:17:52):
To the Atlantic.

Speaker 26 (01:17:54):
I wonder how much of what we're seeing right now
out of the administration of President Trump is a call
to Europe and the European leaders and the allies that
we've traditionally had and pick up that hot potato and
start doing something a little bit more concrete to win
and preserve the peace in Ukraine.

Speaker 16 (01:18:10):
The second question I have is it's related is there's.

Speaker 26 (01:18:13):
Been some a lot of speculation that President Trump and
an administration might.

Speaker 16 (01:18:19):
Be manipulated Vladimir Putin. I wonder if you just talk a.

Speaker 26 (01:18:23):
Little bit about the administration's posture and your confidence and
the competence of this administration to go to totel with
Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 27 (01:18:31):
Well, if there's in I'll take the second question first,
If there's anybody in this world that can go toe
to toe with Putin, that could go toe to toe
with She, that could go toe to toe with Kim
Jong un, And you could keep going down the list.
It's Donald J.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Trump. He is the deal maker in chief.

Speaker 27 (01:18:47):
There is no question that he is the commander in chief,
and I, for one, and I think all Americans and
around the world should have no doubt about his ability
to not only handle Poot, but to handle the complexity
of driving this war to an end. And then on
your first piece on Europe, I'll take you back to

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twenty fourteen. You're right there was a lot of hand
ringing in Europe and not a lot of action. There's
also a lot of hand ringing here in Washington under
the Obama administration and not a lot of action. They
literally threw blankets of the problem. And so I'll remind
everyone that Putin had some type of conflict invasion issue
with their neighbor under President Bush, with Georgia, under President

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Obama with Ukraine twenty fourteen, not under President Trump forty five,
and again with President Biden in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
The war should have been deterred.

Speaker 27 (01:19:42):
The war should have never happened, and I have no
doubt it would not have happened under President Trump and
will stop under President President Trump again. But I just
want to push back on this notion of our European
allies not being consulted as we've entered into this process.
I already mentioned the immediate phone call President Trump made
to President Zelensky. He has talked to President Macrone of

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France repeatedly. Last week, President Macron convened European leaders and
then is coming here on Monday. Prime Minister Starmer is
coming next Thursday. We've also I've talked to every one
of my national security national security advisor counterparts across across

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the spectrum in Europe. I've talked to Secretary General Ruta,
the leader of NATO, the Secretary General of NATO. We
have repeatedly, Oh, by the way, we had half our cabinet,
seven cabinet officials, including the Vice President at the Munich
Security Conference, all engaging, all listening, and all making sure
our allies are hurt. However, we've also made it clear

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for years, decades even that it is unacceptable that the
United States and the United States taxpayer continues to bear
the burden not only of the costs of the war
in Ukraine, but of the defense of Europe. We fully
support our NATO allies, we fully support the Article five commitment.

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But it's time for our European allies to step up.
And one of the things that Secretary General Ruta said
on our call was this last couple of weeks have
been a real wake up call. And I asked him,
what have you been missing the last couple of years.
The fact that we are going to enter into a
NATO summit this June with a third of our NATO
allies still not meeting the two percent minimum, a commitment

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they made a decade ago, literally a decade ago, with
a war on their doorstep, the largest war that they're
all extremely concerned about. But yet it's well, somebody else
needs to pay. We've got other domestic priorities. It's unacceptable.
President Trump's made that clear and the minimum needs to
be met. We need to be at one hundred percent

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in this June at the NATO summit, and then let's
talk about exceeding it, which is what President Trump has
been talking about. With five percent of GDP, Europe needs
to step up for their own defense as a partner,
and we can be friends and allies and have those
tough conversations right.

Speaker 16 (01:22:09):
Thank you, Caroline.

Speaker 29 (01:22:10):
I have a ukraine one and a doze one who
can talk doge. So, Stephen, we're hearing about these dosee
dividend checks that would be twenty percent back to taxpayers,
twenty percent to pay down the debt, sixty percent is left.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Who gets that?

Speaker 24 (01:22:28):
Well, the way that it works is when you achieve savings,
you can either return to the taxpayers, you can return
it to our debtors, or it can be cycled into
next year's budget and then it just lowers the overall
baseline for next year. So in other words, you can
just transfer into the next fiscal window and then lower
the overall spending level. And that means that you can
achieve a permanent savings that way, and that reduces the deficit.

Speaker 29 (01:22:51):
And when is it that people might see those checks?

Speaker 24 (01:22:53):
What's all going to be worked on through the reconciliation
of process with concress that's going underway right now, as
you've seen the set that's moving a bill of the
House is moving a bill. The president has great confidence
in both chambers to deliver on his priorities. I would
just take this opportunity to note the President Trump has
made a historic commitment to the working class of this
country to fight for a major tax relief and major

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price relief and cutting spending as Doze is doing. And
cutting taxes is the key to delivering on both of
those promises, and President Trump is resolutely committed to doing both.

Speaker 14 (01:23:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 29 (01:23:25):
And on Ukraine, I guess this is from my sure
after the President's post on truth social yesterday. Need to
know who does he think is more responsible for the
Russian invasion of Ukraine?

Speaker 16 (01:23:37):
Who ords Zelenski?

Speaker 27 (01:23:39):
Well, Look, his goal, Peter, is to bring this war
to an end period, and there has been ongoing fighting
on both sides. It is World War One style trench warfare.
His frustration with President Zelenski is that you've heard is multifold.

Speaker 8 (01:23:58):
One.

Speaker 27 (01:23:59):
There needs to be a deep appreciation for what the
American people, what the American taxpayer, what President Trump did
in his first term, and what we've done since. So
some of the rhetoric coming out of Kiev, frankly and
insults to President Trump were unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Number one.

Speaker 27 (01:24:17):
Number two, our own Secretary of Treasury personally made the
trip to offer the Ukrainians what can only be described
as a historic opportunity, that is for America to co
invest with Ukraine in their minerals, in their resources to
truly grow the pie. So case in point, there's a

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foundry that processes aluminum in Ukraine. It's been damaged, it's
not at its current capacity. If that is restored, it
would account for America's entire imports of aluminum for an
entire year that one foundry. There are tremendous resources there.
Not only is that long term security for Ukraine. Not

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only do we help the grow the pie with investments,
but you know, we do have an obligation to the
American taxpayer and helping them recoup the hundreds of billions
that have occurred. So, you know, rather than enter into
some constructive conversations about what that deal should be going forward,

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we got a lot of rhetoric in the media that
was incredibly unfortunate. And I could just tell you, Peter,
you know, as a veteran, as somebody who's been in combat,
this war is horrific, and I think we've lost sight
of that, of the literally thousands of people that are
dying a day, families that are going without the next generation,

(01:25:42):
and I find it kind of you know, frankly ridiculous.
So many people in Washington that were just demanding, pounding
the table for a ceasefire in Gaza are suddenly aghast
that the President would demand one, and both sides come
to the table when it talks to when it comes
to Ukraine, a war that has been arguably far greater

(01:26:04):
in scope and scale and far more dangerous in terms
of global escalation to US security.

Speaker 21 (01:26:11):
And I do have one for Caroline.

Speaker 29 (01:26:13):
Does President Trump alf bettrude about this USA Canada hockey
game tonight? And when there is a big hockey game on,
is the President watching for the goals or.

Speaker 8 (01:26:24):
For the fights?

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Probably both?

Speaker 11 (01:26:28):
I think he's watching for the United States to win tonight.
I know he talked to the USA hockey team this morning.
He talked to the players after their morning practice around
ten o'clock. And I also spoke to some folks from
that team after they were jubilant over President Trump's comments
to the team. I believe They're going to put out
a video of that call. So he looks forward to

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watching the game tonight, and we look forward to the
United States beating hour soon to be fifty first state Canada.
Bloomberg go ahead, Waltz.

Speaker 30 (01:26:56):
Can you give us a readout of Hell's meeting with
Zelenski that is wrapped up and in parsecular.

Speaker 31 (01:27:01):
Zelenski publicly rejected this deal about the rare earth minerals.

Speaker 18 (01:27:05):
Where does that stand?

Speaker 27 (01:27:07):
Well, we're going to continue to have He needs to
come back to the table and we're going to continue
to have discussions about where that deal is going. Again,
we have an obligation in the taxpayer. I think this
is an opportunity. The President thinks this is an opportunity
for Ukraine going forward. There can be, in my view,
nothing better for Ukraine's future and for their security than

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to have the United States invested in their prosperity long term.
And then a key piece of this has also been
security guarantees. Look, the reality that we're talking about here
is is it in Ukraine's interest?

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Is it in Europe's interest?

Speaker 27 (01:27:48):
It certainly isn't in Russia's interest or in the American
people's interest for this war to grind on forever and
ever and ever. So a key part of his conversation
was helping Presidents Lensky understand this war needs to come
to an end. This kind of open ended mantra that
we've had under the Biden administration. That's over, and I

(01:28:09):
think a lot of people are having a hard time
accepting that. And then the other piece is there's been
discussions from Prime Minister Stormer and also President Macron about
European led security guarantees.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
We welcome that. We've been asking.

Speaker 27 (01:28:24):
Europe to step up and secure its own prosperity, safety
and security. So we certainly welcome that, and we certainly
welcome more European assistants. As I told my counterparts, come
to the table with more if you want a bigger
seat at the table, and we've been asking for that
for quite some time.

Speaker 32 (01:28:43):
And dish for sanctions in your talks with them, and
if you consulted with international partners and allies about potentially
rolling back sanctions in these negotiations to end those.

Speaker 27 (01:28:53):
The talks with our Russian counterparts, both with my counterpart,
the National Security Advisor, Secretary Rubia's counterpart, the foreign minister,
Foreign Minister Lavrov, you know it, it really was quite broad, uh,
focused on what is the goals for our broader relationship, uh,

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but very clear that the fighting has to stop to
get to any of those brighter goals and as a
first step, We're just going to do some common sense
things like restore the the ability of both of our
embassies to function.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Uh.

Speaker 27 (01:29:27):
And again you know this is this was common sense
in foreign policy world.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
They call it shuttle diplomacy.

Speaker 16 (01:29:34):
Uh.

Speaker 27 (01:29:34):
We have to talk to both sides in order to
get to both sides to the table, and both sides
have said only President Trump could do that.

Speaker 18 (01:29:42):
Deanna, thank you.

Speaker 16 (01:29:44):
And my question is for Mike Walms right.

Speaker 19 (01:29:48):
The President has called Lensky a dictator. Does he view
Putin as a dictator? And does he want Zelensky out
of power? I know he's called for elections. And then thirdly,
the head of the Defense committee in Ukraine's parliament just
has claimed that the US has stopped selling weapons to Ukraine.

Speaker 18 (01:30:07):
Is not true.

Speaker 27 (01:30:09):
Well, most of our weapons that have gone to Ukraine
have been part of a drawdown authority where we've literally
taken them out of our stocks and then eventually, through appropriations,
started buying them again to refill our stocks. I'll just
state that there has been a lag and a lot
of that process. So many of our stocks, as we
look at our operations around the world, are becoming more depleted.

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That's one of the reasons many people have had a
lot of concern about when does this end, how much
is it going to take, how many lives will be lost,
how much will we be how much will we spend.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
As a member of Congress, we.

Speaker 27 (01:30:45):
Repeatedly asked the Biden administration those questions, and we never
got a satisfactory answer. Look, President Trump is obviously very
frustrated right now with President Zelenski, the fact that he
hasn't come to the table, that he hasn't been willing
to take this opportunity that we have offered. I think

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he eventually will get to that point, and I hope
so very quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
But President Trump is, as we made.

Speaker 27 (01:31:14):
Clear to our Russian counterparts, and I want to make
clear today, he's focused on stopping the fighting and moving forward.
And we could argue all day long about what's happened
in the past.

Speaker 11 (01:31:24):
Regan, excuse me, I just called on Reagan.

Speaker 18 (01:31:29):
Reagan, go ahead.

Speaker 16 (01:31:30):
I have a question for Steven and a question to Mike.
Get to start with you.

Speaker 30 (01:31:35):
Thank you, that Trump is unhappy with the rated depportations
and he wants them to be hired. Is the president
happy with the rated deep ortations and are there any
chances feed of the process.

Speaker 24 (01:31:46):
Well, first of all, we all appreciate the encouragement from
the media to deport as many legal aliens as humanly possible.
So thank you, and I will promise you that the
full might of the Department of Homeland Security, the Department
of Justice, Department of Defense, and every element and instrument
of national power will be used to remove with speed

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all criminal illegals from the soil of the United States
of America, to enforce final removal orders, and to ensure
that this country is for American citizens and those who
legally belong in this country. We inherited an ICE that
was completely shuttered. We inherited a Department of Homelandsecurity whose
sole mission was to resettle illegal aliens within the United

(01:32:28):
States of America. In thirty days, the President sealed the
border shut declared the cartels to be terrorist organizations. Has
increased ICE deportations to levels not seen in decades, and
we are shortly on the verge of achieving a pace
and speed of deportations this country has never before seen.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Thank you and Mike.

Speaker 30 (01:32:49):
There the reports that there's some underground proposition to Trump's
pick for under Secretary of Defense and Policy Albridge Colby.
Have you or anyone from the administration been personally of
lobbying senators to support helperge Colby.

Speaker 27 (01:33:04):
Look, I've worked with Bridge Colby in the past. He
has the President's full support to be the Undersecretary of Policy,
which will be a critical policy arm for Secretary Hegseth
going forward. That will implement a lot of these policies.
And really that's been to the extent of it. I
think there's been a lot of kind of you know,

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breathless I don't know, back and forth in the in
the press, but we're full speed ahead to get the
president's team in place so we can implement his America
First policy.

Speaker 16 (01:33:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:33:37):
Mike has spoken pretty extensively. Does anybody have questions for
Stephen or for mister Hassett. Nobody wants to talk about
the economy.

Speaker 22 (01:33:44):
Yeah, sure, I r s okay, I have this for
either one of you.

Speaker 18 (01:33:49):
So we've reported several.

Speaker 33 (01:33:51):
Other outlets have reported that about thirty five hundred people
are due to be lose their jobs at the I
R S by the end of the week. The goal
of these spending cuts across the federal government has been
to reduce the debt. Why impost some of the deepest
cuts we've seen so far at the agency responsible for
raising revenue for the federal government.

Speaker 25 (01:34:12):
Well, I think our objective is to make sure that
the employees that we pay are being productive and effective.
And there are many, many, more than one hundred thousand
people working to collect taxes, and not all of them
are fully occupied. And the Treasury Secretary is studying the
matter and feels like thirty five hundred is a small
number and probably you can get bigger.

Speaker 8 (01:34:32):
Especially as we improve the it at the IRS.

Speaker 25 (01:34:36):
So I think that it's absolutely something that is on
the table for good reasons. And the point is that
don't just talk about the RS, talk about all of government.
That there are so many places I live in DC.
You've maybe live in d C where you never there.
Nobody's going into the buildings, people aren't commuting because nobody's
doing their job. We look back and we see that
there are all these people doing two jobs while they're
getting a government payroll on the payroll. So the point

(01:34:58):
is we're fixing that, and the RS a small part
of that picture.

Speaker 31 (01:35:01):
So you're saying that everybody who's being let go was
doing a bad job.

Speaker 25 (01:35:06):
I'm saying that we're studying every agency and deciding who
to let go and why, and we're doing so very
rationally with a lot of support from analysis, because.

Speaker 31 (01:35:15):
We're being told by a lot of people who have
been let go and other agencies that they were told
they were being dismissed because of poor performance, when in
some cases they haven't even had a performance review yet
because they've only been on the job a couple of months.

Speaker 27 (01:35:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:35:28):
I've never seen a person who was laid off for
poor performance say that they were performing poorly.

Speaker 18 (01:35:34):
Okay, good point, Sure, Kate.

Speaker 32 (01:35:37):
I have a question also, as you Kevin asked, thank
you for being here and that I've got a question
for mister Willis on these potential checks that you might
send out from DOGE. Is there a concern as you're
thinking through this, that they could be inflationary?

Speaker 21 (01:35:49):
Oh?

Speaker 25 (01:35:49):
Absolutely not, because imagine if we don't spend government money
and we give it back to people that the you know,
if they spend it all, then you're even but they're
probably going to save a lot of it, in which
case you're reducing it. And also with the government spends
a lot, that's what creates inflation. We learned that from
Joe Biden. And so if we reduce government spending, that that's,
you know, reduces inflation. And if you give people money,

(01:36:09):
then they're going to save a bunch of it. And
would they say it, then that also reduces demand, reduces inflation.

Speaker 18 (01:36:14):
Okay, so you're not worried about it. In ortible to
followup on Peter's question, you wrote in.

Speaker 32 (01:36:18):
An op ed in the fall of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 11 (01:36:20):
That quote protent is to blame, certainly like al Kainda
was to blame.

Speaker 18 (01:36:23):
For nine to eleven.

Speaker 32 (01:36:24):
Do you still feel that way now or do you
share the president's.

Speaker 16 (01:36:27):
Assessment as he says Ukraine is to blame for the
start of this war.

Speaker 27 (01:36:30):
Well, it shouldn't surprise you that I share the president's
assessment on all kinds of issues. What I wrote as
a member of Congress was as a former member of Congress. Look,
what I share the president's assessment on is that the
war has to end and what comes with that. What
comes with that should be at some point elections. What

(01:36:50):
comes with that should be peace. What comes with that
is prosperity that we've just offered in this natural resources
and economic partnership arrangement to the killing and European.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Security and security for the world.

Speaker 27 (01:37:05):
The President's not only determined to do that in Europe,
he's determined to do it in the Middle East. And
just a few months ago, we had an administration that
had tried for fifteen months, week after week, sitting with
you here, and couldn't get us to a ceasefire, couldn't
get our hostages out.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Now we're at that point.

Speaker 27 (01:37:23):
We're back to the maximum pressure on Iran, and we
will we have just begun, and we will drive towards
a ceasefire and all of those other steps. I'm not
going to pre negotiate or get ahead of the sequencing
of all of that. It's a very delicate situation. But
this is a president of peace, and who here would
argue against peace?

Speaker 32 (01:37:43):
Okad and Jordan and Trump go ahead, Just toard you
just had two questions.

Speaker 21 (01:37:52):
Go ahead, mister Hassett. You were speaking about tariff revenue,
and you also addressed a question about the art. President
Trump has spoken about replacing income tax with tiff revenue,
especially with all this waste broad abuse that we're seeing cut.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Is that a possibility? Absolutely?

Speaker 25 (01:38:10):
And in fact, if you think about the China tariff
revenue that we're estimating is coming in from the ten
percent that we just added plus the Dominimus thing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
That it's between five.

Speaker 25 (01:38:21):
Hundred billion and a trillion dollars over ten years is
our estimate. And that's something that is outside of the
reductions that markets are seeing through the negotiations.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Up on the Hill.

Speaker 25 (01:38:31):
And so we expect that the tariff revenue is actually
going to make it much easier for Republicans to pass
a bill. And that was the President's plan all along.

Speaker 21 (01:38:38):
And I have a question for Stephen Miller about DOGE.
So you've spoke about Doge. You said, roughly fifty billion
dollars is set to be caught in a year of
waste frodden abuse by unelected bureaucrats. We're hearing this ironic
narrative from the President's critics and the left wing media
that Elon Muski is an unelected bureaucrat and he's doing

(01:39:00):
all this terrible stuff. Isn't one of Doja's objectives to
get rid of the federal bureaucracy, the deep state? And
also who was running the White House when Joe Biden
was in office, Because I don't know a single person
who believed it was Joe Bidence.

Speaker 24 (01:39:15):
You're tempting me to say some very harsh things about
some of our media friends. Yes, it is true that
many of the people in this room for four years
failed to cover the fact that Joe Biden was mentally
incompetent and was not running the country. It is also
true that many people in this room who have used

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this talking point that Elon is not elected, failed to
understand how government works. So I'm glad for the opportunity
for a brief civics lesson. A president is elected by
the whole American people. He's the only official in the
entire government that is elected by the entire nation.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Right, judges are appointed.

Speaker 24 (01:39:54):
Members of Congress are elected at the district or state level,
just one man. And the Constitution, Article two has a
clause known as the vesting clause, and it says the
executive power shall be vested in a president singular. The
whole will of democracy is imbued into the elected president.
That president then appoints staff to then impose that democratic

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will onto the government. The threat to democracy, indeed, the
existential threat to democracy, is the unelected bureaucracy. Of lifetime
tenured civil servants, who believe the answer to no one,
who believe they can do whatever they want without consequence,
who believe they can set their own agenda no matter
what Americans vote for. So Americans vote for radical FBI reform,

(01:40:38):
and FBI agents say they don't want to change, or
Americans vote for radical reformat or energy policies, but EPA
bureaucrats say they don't want to change. Or Americans vote
to end DEI racist DEI policies, and lawyers of the
Department of Justice say they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Want to change.

Speaker 24 (01:40:54):
What President Trump is doing is he is removing federal
bureaucrats who are fine democracy by failing to implement his
lawful orders, which are the will of the whole American people.

Speaker 18 (01:41:08):
Thank you, Thank you very much, everybody. I'm looking at
the clock.

Speaker 11 (01:41:12):
We've almost had an hour of time. I know a
couple of these individuals have a meeting to get to
at two pm, so you're welcome to follow up with
my team for further questions. We're going to let these
guys get back to running the United States government and
we will see you all later. President Trump will be
speaking at three o'clock at the Black History Month reception.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
So thank you. It's good to see you.

Speaker 18 (01:41:31):
We'll see you in a bit.

Speaker 16 (01:41:32):
Thanks you for Black History.

Speaker 8 (01:41:36):
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Speaker 15 (01:41:42):
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