December 30, 2024 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON
GUESTS
MIKE LINDELL
RAHEEM KASSAM
LAURA LOOMER
ALLISON HUYNH
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it. I know you don't
like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything
in the world to stop that, but you're not going
to stop it.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Mega media?
Speaker 5 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Will be saved.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
Or use your host, Stephen k Ban.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It's Monday, thirty December, in the Year of a Lored
twenty twenty four. We have an all star group of guests. Allison,
just one thing. I asked you to hang on doun.
I want to get will up in here, give me
some numbers. But and I appreciate the kind words about
Elon Musk because I don't want to seem like I'm
singling Elon out for special treatment here. And I've said
(01:12):
from the beginning that Elon did write a two hundred
fifty million dollars check to support the ground game, and
it was one of the leading of not the leading. Well,
the ground game was the reason President Trump won. His
supporters came out and got low propensity, lowerformation voters out,
and David Sachs had the you know, the.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Dinner in June, but that was in June.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
These guys are just coming to the party and they've
got their own set of beliefs and own set of economics.
That's not Maga economics. It's not America first economics. It
certainly not American systems first. Just since you do know
him and he is at I guess the IQ.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Level of a genius.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Is there any possibility, ma'am that he doesn't fully understand
the scam nature? Since he dug in so hard, he
was going to fight forever and pull up every different
type of thing we hadn't seen. We were not going
to see warfare like this. Of course, he collapsed twelve
hours later. Is there any possibility that he doesn't understand
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the full scam of the H one B Visu's any possibility.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
That's a great question. I think he did admit that
he's somewhere on the spectrum and many people who know
him he's singularly focused on getting humanity to Mars. He
doesn't care about money. Every dollar he has goes into
basically getting us a backup plan for planet Earth. He
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really believes that he lives in very humble accommodations. He
works very late. Like I said, he wakes up very
early in the morning and he can sleep on the
floor underneath his death So he doesn't care about money
like the other big tech oligarc So I think there
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is a little bit of a misunderstanding and misguidance from
Musk perspective.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Okay, there is something.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Hang on out, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
A guy who's going to get us to Mars, and
not just to the Moon for a visit in a
in a in a dry by, I mean a colony
on Mars, to have an alternative for the human species,
of which he's one of the leaders in artificial intelligence
and chipping, so that he's already working on Homo sapiens
plus or two point zero. But we'll leave that topic
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for a different day. But to save humanity and to
take humanity, Uh, he's got to be pretty smart and
being pretty smart. Just again, does he not fully understand
soup to nuts the total and complete scam that h
one b visus are when you talk about high skilled
foreign workers.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Ma'am, I don't think he does, because we need to
move up one level in the Medican cognition kind of
like you know, value system. He sees the world from
a spreadsheet perspective. And Steve, mister Bannon, I love your
perspective because I'm from the same viewpoint. You lead by
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human values, Judale Christian values. This is what makes American great,
the culture. You know, these type of value systems that
we have. And we've seen government departments ran by wiz
kid in the past, and as you know, the war room.
(04:36):
I'm a child of war torn Vietnam, and so the
whiz kids back in the nineteen sixties was led by
Robert McNamara, the Secretary of Defense, and they did an
awful job with Vietnam, torching, bombing a developing country, killing
mostly women and children, and of course the young men
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American men to serve them. So we need to be
really careful when we rule by spreadsheet. And I think
that's the misguidance of mister Musk and mister Ramaswami. No
offense to them, but they are the new wiz Kids,
whiz Kids two point zero. And I love mister Musk
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personally and all he's done for humanity, but we need
to lead by human values.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Steve Alison, hang over a second. I know you come
from your parents from more to Vietnam. When you come
back to that, Alison makes an absolutely brilliant point talk
about mcnah and the whiz Kids. Remember they all came
out of they all came out of the bombing program
of World War two to destroy this guys, these are
the guys that came out of Harvard Business School.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Is led by mcnurr, but others.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
This gets back to twelve o'clock High, which is my
favorite film about leadership. Twelve o'clock High about the bombing squads.
Remember to keep the formations of the of the B seventeens.
You had to drop payload over Nazi Germany to destroy
the industrial base. And you had to do that during daytime.
You couldn't do it at night. It was just too imperfect.
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Eventually they got it together after tremendous amount of casualties
of American flyers because even the Brits would not fly
at daytime. They didn't have enough pilots, not enough planes.
They took that then to Asia, and this is the
bloody Battle of Saipan. To take Saipan was to get
an airstrip. That airstrip was to be able to bomb
Imperial Japan back into oblivion. I remember, these guys had
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no earthy idea that Project.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Trinity was going on.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
There was going to be a nuclear weapon at the
end that could actually take out the four million American
servicemen invasion of Japan, and we fire bombed Osaka, we
fire bombed Tokyo. Actually the casualties there were even higher.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Than nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But those whiz kids took the mathematics of that and
then tried to apply it to the what the mathematics
of Vietnam, a war of you'd say, nationalism, counter insurgency,
whatever you want to say. But they did it by
body count. And that's why, year after year after year
you got the same lines and misrepresentations that in American
young men fifty thousand went over his combat casualties because
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you had the same type of sociopathic overlord you have
in Silicon Valley today that just looks at a spreadsheet
and doesn't think speaking of that spreadsheet, Hang on, Alison,
and hang on Kevin. I want to go to I
want to go to will Upton. Well, you've done a
good job of going through this report now, and I
want to say the guy actually maybe took some data
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that wasn't total H one b's, but directionally he's telling
me about overall because the whole there's many different programs
to gut the American worker.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Here's what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
They're trying to add any any possibility they can get
away from paying an American American worker at the basic
wage at the marketplace allows they will do that. And
they're maniacal about thinking about not how to better your life,
how to get around and make you compete against everybody
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on planet Earth unfairly. So will walk us through what's
on National Pulse today that you've been able to go through, sir.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Yeah, so you know this USCIS report and exactly what
you're talking about with sort of it's not just the
H one B, it's H two b's, it's it's F one,
it's F two.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
It's these E three visas we saw with the.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Funny quips online about the male Australian strippers.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Those are E three visas. You got to go wait,
wait seriously.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
But in this us CIS report, there's also an interesting
data point that this in the prior fiscal year, in
the fiscal year twenty twenty three, we actually saw over
fifty five thousand non immigrant visas converted over to work
visas of various types. Mostly these originally student visas or
tourist visas. And us CIS basically throws up their hands
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and says, yes, these are the spouses and children of
H one B visa holders who are now in the
US as well, because it's chain migration and they're now
getting work permits and work visas as well.
Speaker 10 (09:14):
You know.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Buried in this point, it's roughly around two hundred thousand
additional individuals are coming over with the H one bs.
So again these are you know, a husband or a
wife or a child for the most part.
Speaker 9 (09:28):
So you also don't.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
Just have this three hundred and eighty six thousand people
coming over with the H one B program, but you
also have their kids, their wife, you know, family members,
things like that. You slowly start bringing over whole families
and you end up in this chain migration situation.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
And you know, and also.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
Speaking to Kevin's point earlier, you know, in terms of
people sort of being locked into these jobs, that's also
backed up by this USCIS data only seventy five thousand.
It's about seventy six thousand. Actually h one b workers
filed for a change of employment petitions actually changed jobs.
Speaker 9 (10:03):
It's less than twenty percent of the of the total.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
H one bs that were in the United States and
twenty twenty three in the fiscal year of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 9 (10:12):
So most of these people are staying within their job.
They're not changing jobs.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
They're not being able to use you know, the prospect
of other employment is leverage and salary negotiations and all
of this is having downward pressure on wages for American workers.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, where do people go? At National Pulse? I want
everybody go over the day. Raheem and Will been doing
a great job on this. I know you've got a
lot more that you're going to break. Where do folks go? Yeah,
and what else are you guys going to be rolling
out that we can't expect?
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Yeah, you can check out all of our work at the
National Pulse dot com.
Speaker 9 (10:46):
You know, he saw'm on Twitter at wuckton wu p
t o N.
Speaker 10 (10:52):
You know.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
My next ton of project I've got coming down the
pipeline here is actually looking at some of these nonprofit
and contractors that are.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Exempt from the H one B caps.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
So these are the guys who are kind of you know,
the statutory cap is eighty five thousand, but we're letting
in you know, probably about thirty thousand more on top
of that through these uncapped employers. So the next stage
we're going to be is kind of looking at who
these individuals are, who these companies are, and what exactly
it is that they're working on.
Speaker 9 (11:18):
Because again, most of these H one b's or bachelor's.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Degrees, you know, some masters, very very few PhDs, and
a lot of them just have technical training.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Thank you so much, well, Upton, great work, National Pulse,
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Raheem's breakdown of all this just amazing. Hopefully, well Upton,
we're not going to have access to you when you
go into the administration.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Hopefully back over Treasury, great guy, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
If they say, oh, we need the Einstein's, we need
the most brilliant, we need this, the higher skilled the Americans.
If we deported every H one B worker this afternoon
on the thre is December and the year of OLLERD
twenty twenty four, are there American workers at the same
skill sets or higher that could take their place?
Speaker 11 (12:07):
Sir, Absolutely, these Americans had to train their replacements. Don't
forget between. In the last two years, between twenty twenty
two and twenty twenty four, Silicon Valley has laid off
over six hundred thousand workers. There are roughly five hundred
and eighty three thousand H one b's in the country today.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Now.
Speaker 11 (12:30):
Interestingly enough, as bad as H one B is, there's
an even worse program. It's called Optional STEM Optional Practical Training.
And this wasn't even legislated by Congress, So this is
a backdoor deal done by Michael Chertoff and Bill Gates
to create this employment authorization documents.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
For foreign students.
Speaker 11 (12:54):
So if you're a foreign student and you graduate with
a STEM degree, you can get a three year work
permit here in the United States. Employers love it because
they don't have to pay FIKA so security healthcare because
they're a student, and they can pay this OPT worker
anything they want because it's practical training. This is a
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clear case of deference. We need to shover on this thing,
and the Supreme Court needs to take a stand on
it and get rid of it because this wasn't even
legislated by Congress, and right now there are as many
optional practical training EMP employment documents out there as there
are h one B workers. So yes, Steve to your question,
(13:40):
if we got rid of this program tomorrow, we would
be just fine.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Kevin, where do people get you? We got a thirty
seconds where they go to find out more about US
tech workers.
Speaker 11 (13:51):
Best place find us on x at US tech Workers
or our website Institute for Soundpublic Policy dot org.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Thank you, brother, fantastic great initial voyage here with Kevin.
Short break Alison Winn and maybe a surprise or two
President Trump. Breaking news. President Trump has given his total
and complete endorsement a speaker, Johnson. I think there's something
going on there. Not so sure how many people are
(14:21):
actually gonna show up on Fridays. I think President Trump
is as you know, that would not be my first choice.
But President Trump gets his cabinet, and President Trump gets.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
His speakers and the folks he wants to work with.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We'll talk more about that in depth, not oh baby,
on a Monday here in the war room. But we'll
tell you about what's going on the speakers.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
We're gonna give you the.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Inside baseball short commercial break back in a moment, Stephen K.
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Bath it's unconditional surrender Monday, and we are going to
get we're folks. If you haven't, you're not keeping score
at home. We're winning this and we're winning it bigly,
and we're going to win it one. Because the program
is a total and complete scam and a con and
it hurts two groups of people. You shouldn't breathe our country.
(15:24):
It's bad enough we tolerate the destruction of L'abaijing by
a demonic regime in Beijing, a group of gangsters and criminals.
But it's uh, it's almost as bad. I think that
we allowed indentured servitude into this nation for higher margins
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for our sociopathic overlords in Silicon Valley. Allison, I know
recently you've punched out on the Democratic Party. I'm going
to get you back, but just give us two minutes
on that. What was it about this time in American
history that obviously made somebody from stay, which is the
second best university in this country in back of Harvard.
Why you shifted, particularly during the age of Trump, to.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Kind of support us.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Yeah, so it's not your father's Republican party, Trump's Republican Party.
I feel with MAGA is very inclusive. It's about free speech,
not censoring people. It's the voice for the working class.
It's the voice of common sense. And as a mother
of three teenagers, especially during COVID and San Francisco, it
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was very woke. I had to undergo a lot of stuff.
I couldn't even really walk out on the streets of
San Francisco. And when I talked about it, people said, oh, Allison,
you're overreacting about the grocery stores closing. You're overreacting about crime,
about the stuff going on at the schools. They wanted
to rename Abraham Lincoln High School and spend twenty seven
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million to rename all these high schools because they said
Abraham Lincoln was a racist. And then I had to
fire back, He freed the slaves, How can he be
a racist? And so there were all these little things
that divorced me from the Democratic Party, just like you
know my own divorce. There was not one big thing,
and you know, there was just a lot of gaslighting.
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You know, there is crime, the grocery stores are closing.
We shouldn't be doing this to our public school districts.
We need to be you know, the fundamental problem with
this argument is that we need to focus more on
STEM education in the US. The VEC is right in
that regards, but we don't talk about all the DEI
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stuff that we had to encounter. And when I was
running the Team school board, you know there were many
d I initiatives. They wanted to have drag Queen story
time with a drag show on the side. Why are
we spending public school money, taxpayers money on this we
need If we're and we are having this training issues
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workforce training in STEM, we need to be focusing on
real life STEM education, making it more engaging, training the
next generation of workers in the age of the Golden
Age of AI. So we need to be focusing on math, reading,
and science and not this DEI curriculum. So that's why
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I moved over. It's just very practical for me, Allison.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Where do people get you on social media or your
website that people want to learn more about you?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Where they go.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Just on Twitter? At Aliwynn. So I'm really excited to
go now to the Maga Trump Republican Party. I think
it's a it's a big realignment of values, right, and
President Electron is leading by values and he appreciates mister
Musk and mister Vovk's spreadsheet the way they look at
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the world. But like you know, we appreciate how you
look at the world too.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
The thank you, thank you, ma'am, appreciate you, thank you
for coming on.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We appreciate anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Anybody that brings up the whiz kids and connects the
bombing of in Vietnam in the in the in World
War two to what's going today is quite brilliant.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So we'll definitely have her back on fantastic. Laura Lumer
joins us. Laura, Uh, certain aspects of this have One
of my concerns is that people don't appreciate when we
say America. First, we're talking about the nation.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And a nation has a borders, a nation has customs
and tradition.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
UH.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
A nation has has most importantly its citizens. It's our
greatest resource.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And you have in Silicon Valley what I call kind
of the Medici's or the Borgia's this this kind of
network they want to get back to kind of the
city states, you know, Florence and Venus of Renaissance Italy.
I refer to this as techno feudalism, and I know
that it's one of the things that you've been driving
Explain to people when you say this is a feudalistic system,
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or that you want certain parts of this to be
to be like feudal sociopathic overlords.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
What do we mean by that, ma'am?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Well, you have to understand the philosophy that all of
these tech bros and the technocratic tyrants and the billionaires
who come from this very oppressive society in Silicon Valley
subscribe to in order to understand what their long term
goals are for infiltrating the White House. And so it
really all begins with the fact that they subscribe to
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a neo reactionary political movement otherwise known as Dark Enlightenment.
And essentially what that means is that they want society
to operate like a corporation. They believe that the most
high iq people, the tech elites, the wealthiest people in
our country should be the people who are leading our society.
And so what they really want is they want a
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country that operates like a corporation with a CEO monarch.
And so you have people who have unlimited resources, billionaires
in Silicon Valley, who are controlling the flow of information,
who subscribe to a philosophy that is really trying to
advocate for the elimination of democracy, the elimination of a
constitutional republic, and the implementation of monarchy in America.
Speaker 12 (21:28):
And Peter Thiel.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Subscribes to this, and I really do believe that people
like Elon Musk subscribe to this cdeology. Jd Vance, who
is now the incoming Vice president, has also subscribed to
this ideology, and you can see that he's actually spoken
out about how he supports dark Enlightenment. And what we
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need to have a conversation about is what is it
going to mean for the future of our country, our
national security, and the incoming Trump administration. If we have
a bunch of techno krats who are also essentially welfare
queens because their companies are receiving government subsidies and they
want to take over our defense industry.
Speaker 12 (22:09):
If you have a bunch of tech.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Bros with billions of dollars and direct unfettered access to
the Vice President and the President of the United States.
Speaker 12 (22:16):
And then they are also.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Uh, you know, very cordial with our adversaries, as in
China and Iran. We see that Elon Musk is having
these meetings off the books with Iranian officials, with Chinese officials.
Speaker 12 (22:30):
What does that mean for us and the future of
our constitutional.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Republican hang, hangover second hanging. I want to go back
because I miss jd on Dark Enlightenment. First of all,
explain to us again because we love nomenclature and putting
out because ideas have consequences. When you say this construct
dark enlightenment, what is it? What does it mean? Where
to come from? You know, put some put some meat
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on the bone.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Well, as I said before, it's this idea that society
should all operate as a corporation and the elite should
be in charge. And so one of the brain children
behind this philosophy is a guy by the name of
Curtis Jarvin. And I don't know how much time I
have really to explain all of this, but Curtis Yarvin,
of course receives his funding from Peter tele Peter Tiel
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was a big backer of jd Vance's Senate campaign, and
he claimed to have been a big supporter of President Trump.
Yet several months before the election, when he was speaking
in the UK and he was asked point blank whether
or not he was going to be supporting the incoming
Trump administration and if he was going to be voting
for President Trump and Jade Vance, he really just had
this kind of stutter attack as he often does, where
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he profusely stuttered on stage and really just seemed incapable
of answering a very simple question, will you be voting
for President Trump and jd Vance? So it's very concerning
because these guys, what they want to do is they
want to basically incite a civil war in our country.
Speaker 12 (23:56):
I believe, I believe that they.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Want this idea of tech feudal to UH to create
so much conflict with the nationalist MAGA base so that
it kind of sparks a civil war, which is what
it's being called now right, a MAGA civil war. And
they want to flame these nationalist UH the tensions that
are created by this shift in the nationalist movement of
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our party.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
This this, this is not a civil war because they're
not tough enough. They're just not they folded. I mean
it was embarrassing. Oh, we're going to fight to the death.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
We're gonna do this. We're gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
We're gonna see war that you've never seen before. Then
the next tweet, well, we know it needs to be reformed,
but we're just talking about points there. No, no, you
don't let me go back, uh to Curtis Jarvin. He's
a quite brilliant guy. Walk me through. We got about
a minute here and then I'll hold you through. Raheem
Casanzo tell me about Jarvin.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Well, we can have a much greater conversation at this
in a later time. I really want to focus though
on the tech tyrants, and I want to talk about
how Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and how okay.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Okay, okay, but la la la la. I know what
you want to focus on. I asked you about Curtis Sharvin.
Can you just answer the question, ma'am?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Well, he as I said before, he's one of the
brain children behind dark enlightenment theory.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And what is dark enlightenment means? What again?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Because it's because you're seeing a manifestation through through through
Sacks and through vivic and through Elon Muss, but his
core concept is dark enlightenment is like a new enlightenment
or hang on, tell you what, hang on, We'll hold
you to the brain because I want to get to
the bottom of this, what what their intentions are, because
this is all.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
New ground for folks. This is like what are they
talking about?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I want to make sure the world posse is up
to speed on the ideas, because ideas have consequences. You've
seen it manifest in this kind of grubby fight over
H one B visas, which, let me repeat, must be eliminated.
One the workers that are here on H one B
visas should be deported at the same time we're deporting
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the fifteen million illegal aliens that Biden brought across the
border to suppress wages of low income workers. American workers
should be hired immediately to fill those gaps, and then
we should start the discussions on reparations, on reparations on
what they knowingly did to American techory short commercial break
back in a moment.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 10 (27:01):
Bah So.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Raheem's on deck. Ben Harnwell got Ben. Ben's probably to
slip bend de mars so a lot of news. President
Trump's come endorsed speaker Johnson. I think that has to
do folks with Tom Massey's already come out. I think
Sparks has come out and says he's got to do
a bunch of stuff. This is Johnson. I'm not sure
who's going to show up on Friday, but inside Baseball
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is telling me you may be short a congressman or two.
There may be some other issues going on. I think
with President Trump goes January sixth.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Is upon us.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I believe, I strongly believe that this right now is
to let's get through this and see how this thing
turns out. Look As everybody knows, I'm not a fan
of Johnson. I don't think he's got the right stuff
to bring us through this. But I think there's some
other structural issues we just have to deal with. So
President Trump is coming endorsed him, and I think with
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that endorsement Johnson, unless there's just a complete throwdown by
a couple of people besides Sparts, we'll have to see
you do it. But I think one of the reasons
is the denominator here may be changing for reasons well
beyond our control. President Trump's controls. So I'll have more
about that tomorrow morning. But he's come out with a
full thrown and endorsement of Speaker Johnson. Two folks we got.
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There's so much converging on the twentieth and so many
issues ed dow We don't get ed dout on today,
which I don't think we're gonna be able to in
the morning show. I want everybody and if the great
team in Denver, with Real America's voice and my own
crack squad can push out ed Dowd's amazing piece in
Zero Hedge about what we've been talking about is Yellen
(28:40):
has been playing games with the balance sheet. There's something
wrong here and the bond market is starting to revolt. Also,
Yellen drops at the close of business on Friday this letter.
They say that emergency measures have got to start being used,
like on the are we going to hit the debt limit?
Emergency measures have to start being used. I think by
the thirteenth of January anything at a lot of things
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going on in that regard Laura Lumber, why are why
are the strong? You know, the people that are worth
hundreds of billions of dollars? And Elon's pretty upfront he
wants to be the first tree in air that he
spends his time as Alison Wynn, who spent personal time
with him, focus on getting humanity, saving humanity by getting
it to Mars, a colony of Mars, somebody that deals
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at that level with it. Why is he afraid of
Laura Lumer uh ma'am?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Well, I think that a lot of people have a
hard time speaking truth to power, and a lot of
people are afraid of taking on billionaires. And while he
is the richest man in the world, and so he
kind of orbits President Trump. As I called him the
other day, I said, he's a stage five clinger. And
the reality is is that a lot of President Trump's
advisors and people can deny this all they want, and
a lot of people are not going to say this
because they're dependent on their Twitter monetization checks, which is
(29:52):
why Elon Musk has well, I've been demonetized. Now I've
had my check mark taken away. They realize that, well,
they're put to President Trump is now being overshadowed by
the richest man in the world who has these ulterior motives. So,
as I said before, does he really support MAGA and
the America first agenda or is he trying to push
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this neo reactionary political movement so that we can establish
a monarchy and have multipolarity. So I think that he
doesn't like the fact that somebody who has direct access
to President Trump, as as I do, and that's very
well known, challenged him in a very public manner, and
it's dominated the news cycle over these last few days.
(30:34):
And so I don't think that it's acceptable for George Soros,
Elon Musk or Peter Tiel. It doesn't matter what side
of the political aisle a billionaire is on.
Speaker 12 (30:44):
I don't think that it's acceptable for.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Billionaires to have this much power, in this much access,
so that not only are they going to have government
access to our money and government influence as we saw
over the spending bill, by threatening primaries against against people
who don't comply with his wishes.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
But this is a guy who.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Gets government subsidies for defense contracts and now wants to
silence people who challenge him online. And I'm not the
only account that was shut down, And they said, well,
you were shut down because you dock someone. Okay, well
it was an honest mistake. If they want to say that,
I docked somebody, and I have since issued an apology
for not having all of the information blurred out for
(31:24):
Serum Kershon's finance record at the FEC that shows that
he donated to Democrats a month before the presidential election.
And I think that we should be able to criticize
the tech elite, the tech bros. They're very triggered by
the term tech bros, who are going to now have
enormous amounts of power in the Trump administration, especially given
the fact that these people are Johnny come Lately. It's okay,
(31:47):
they all supported ron De Santis. First of all, they
all supported Democrats, then they supported Ronda Santis, then they
supported vi Vike Ramaswame, and they only decided to support
President Trump out of an act of sympathy when we
almost watch President Trump had explode with the bullet of
an assassin on Live TV and Butler Pennsylvania. So we
need to have these conversations, and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 12 (32:09):
That things have escalated the way that they have escalated.
But we'll see.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Hopefully I'm reinstated and hopefully I'm remonetized.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, I don't think it's I don't I think exhaalation
is good.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
We get down to it. Remember, they're the ones, they're
the ones backpedaling, and like I said, when the enemy
is in retreat, fixed ban NEETs and pursue.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
When I say it's unfortunate that things have escalated, it's
unfortunate that the MAGA base has had to sustain abuse
from the richest man in the world, being called retards
and saying uh, you.
Speaker 12 (32:40):
Know, uh f you in the face. Okay, so I
just think that I think it's time.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But no, Hey, hal it.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
We're tough. Hey, we're battle hardened over a decade of fighting.
People are very very Hey, that's nothing. It's a it's
something who cratered. I mean, it is going to fight
to the ends of the earth and for everything, is
going to new steps of warfare. And the next tweet
is that, oh yeah, well the thing needs to be reformed.
But I only want to bring the Einstein's in. Laura,
we got to bounce social media where they get you.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Well, now that my ex subscriptions have been canceled, I
encourage all of you to subscribe to me at Laura
Lumer dot substack dot com. You can still follow me
on x at Laura Lumer, true social at Laura Lumer
and my website lumored dot com. But I appreciate you
having me on, Steve, and happy to come on to
talk about this even more because I do believe that
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this tech infiltration is the greatest threat to our country
and humanity as a whole.
Speaker 10 (33:33):
We have to talk.
Speaker 12 (33:34):
We have to stop technocratic supremacy.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Wow, techno feudalism. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you coming on always.
Speaker 12 (33:43):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
She's featured in Rebels, Rogues and Outlaws, amazing photography of
Laura Lumer, plus Dan Flout's great writing and also my
next guest, Rahem Casam. Everybody looks amazing this book. Dan
is a true artist. I think one of the great
photographers of the twenty first century. Don't take it from me,
just get the book, go to Amazon. It's unbelievable. And
Dan and I have worked together for twenty years on films,
(34:06):
and I didn't know this creative side of him on
the photography side. When he really had a chance to
kind of take some time and do it the right
way without me yelling at him, he could actually do it.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
It's turned out magnificent.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
In fact him, we only got you by phone today,
but you look, you look amazing, and you look very
thoughtful in this book. Very you look you look like
Sir Raheem as we refer to you now, brother, put
in perspective this fight that's taking place over the last
sevent tower hours because.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
We're all down for it.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
We're down for it, and we know it has meaning
and purpose and that's why we continue to pursue it.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Your thoughts, sir, Yeah, thanks, Steve.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Look, I think anybody who can make you and me
look good is a true artist of really some some
you know. That's an one B VISA qualifier right there.
The argument, the conversation that we're having right now, and
I really think people need to pay attention to what
(35:01):
Laura was saying. I understand it for a lot of people.
You know, Laura can come across across a little jarring sometimes,
but it's but it's it's because of the passion and
the foresight when you see things coming down the pipeline.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
Is she just talked about.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
What she talked about is really interesting distinction on the
political right that is already manifesting itself before Donald J.
Speaker 10 (35:22):
Trump even gets to take the oath.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Of office again, which is this distinction between like the
dark enlightenment side, you know. And by the way, this
is not some fringe thing. A lot of people on
the political right, a lot of people that I talk
to on a day to day basis, subscribe to that
level of thinking, which is that, hey, you know, democracy
has kind of run its course. The founders had qte ideas,
(35:46):
but we're living in a different world now and we
need to move towards this kind of tech feudalism. Have
a have an indentured servitude class and then a moneyed
elite who kind of know how to do things. And
by the way, to add to that, you saw that
coming out in the last forty eight hours. I think
Elon Musk was asked on X, you know what kind
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of governance the people of Mars should have, and he
said they should not have representative democracy. He said, look,
it's up to them that he wouldn't go with a
representative democracy model, which is effectively what you know, that
a representative democracy underneath the great you know idea of
a republic was the idea of your founders. And I
(36:32):
think we can all agree that representative democracy has its challenges.
Speaker 10 (36:36):
Has its limits. But what is the counter to that?
And where are the tech people coming.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
From when they say, right, you know, we have to
move on from these ideas from the seventeen hundreds and
move into this tech feudalism era.
Speaker 10 (36:48):
It's not good.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And I know, for the first time people are hearing this,
a lot of people will be like, what are you
guys talking about? We haven't seen this, We don't know
this is going on. Believe me, if you get into
the weaves on you know, a lot of the journals
that come out, a lot of the things that get
you know, that.
Speaker 10 (37:06):
Get mailed to you and your door, a lot of the.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Write ups in Claremont Review of Books and American Mind
and all this stuff, You'll start to pick out patterns
where there are authors and writers and thinkers who are
actually trying to say, like, hey, actually, maybe we need
kind of of a nouveau monarchy. And I really do
think for as much as Elon Musk, you know, has
done good, I really do think that Elon Musk fancies
(37:32):
himself as one of these nou veaux monarchs, as this
kind of ruling, new ruling class of person. And it
comes across in how he talks about the ordinary working man.
You see the difference if you google to the audience,
if you google Stephen K. Bannon and courtesy Aarvin, they
would have you believe, like all of these lefty academics
who just don't get it, they would.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
Have you believe that you two are the same, and
you believe in the same things, and you want the
same things. Your end goal is the same. Basically both fascists.
It couldn't be further from the truth. But Stephen K.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Bannon's populism is about empowering the smallest in society, empowering
the people who have had their.
Speaker 10 (38:11):
Futures robbed of them.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
And the other version of popularism and inverted commas actually
isn't populism at all. It uses populism as an end
to something else. And that's the conversation that we're having today.
And the eighth one is a symptom of that wider problem,
that wider discourse, that wider argument that's had on the
political right.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Some of the people weaking some way to you know,
do the this visa program is massiveness.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
How they got it.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
But I want to go back. This goes to the time.
You remember all these guys were progressive Democrats. They were
all huge supporters of the Democratic Party. We're really going
to techno fascism. This is this is what happened during
the pandemic. This is the great awakening of people coming
to find out exactly what the Democrats dood for. All
these guys were Democrats. They're all Democrats. In June of
(39:01):
this past year, when all of a sudden it became evident,
you know, around the time of the debate with Biden,
that Trump and the Trump movement was rising up at
Elon's very smart guy. He didn't randomly sit there and
go I mean, he talked to the people that mattered,
the people running Charlie Kirk's organization, people running this ground game.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
He's an engineer.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
He really thought it through and says, hey, I'm going
to write significant checks and I'm not putting into TV ads.
I'm gonna put it to back this kind of populous movement.
So what Raheem's talking about, And look, the enemy of
my enemy is my friend. They're coming aboard was central
to the victory. We're not saying that, but we have
to get to the bottom of what. You know, Curtis
(39:40):
Jarvin is one of the most important thinkers in modern
political thought, and he's virtually unknown. This dark Enlightenment is
absolutely one of the key concepts you have to understand.
And just like we've done modern monetary theory and the
pandemic and all of it, right, it is essential, essential
that you understand and this because you are the tip
(40:02):
of the tip of the spear and the salvation of
this constitutional republic. And if we go down, we're gonna
go down fighting. But you know what, I don't think
we're going down. We're winning. Just fixed Bannett's short commercial break.
We're gonna go out with Gotta Love the song from
(40:23):
Philip Kaufman's Masterpiece based upon Tom Wolfe's masterpiece The Right Stuff.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
Back in a moment, here's your host even came back.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
By the way, so Grace informs me that I think
in our our Twitter, I don't know Twitter comments, there's
like they're spamming all the comments. Hey, they can play
all the games they want. They're they're losing this and
they're gonna lose it big. Here's our condition for you.
Surrender that you put at the top of DOSEE is
the number one thing to be eliminated the H one
B visas or we're gonna get it eliminated. Okay, we're
gonna get it eliminated. Is a scam to destroy American
(41:26):
workers and American families. And we've proven uh and and
and hate elon vivek any of you guys, David Sachslos
start coming out.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
We want to see the examples.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Show us the examples of the high skilled workers that
you couldn't get American workers for. Let's see it. Show it,
Show us the receipts. We're we're open minded people.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
We are we want to go where the data tells
us to go, right, So.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Show us, show us the money, show us the receipts,
show us the beef to show us.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Alison Winston shoes at Google and they're her entire time.
There was one person that actually came from France that
had something to do with robotics that they couldn't replace.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I still want to see that.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
So bottom line is, show us, show us all the geniuses,
all the Einstein's that came over here, the higher skilled workers.
It's a total and complete line, not kind of a lie.
And anybody that's sending us to Mars and going to
conelize Mars.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
And thinking great thoughts.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Totally understands that Raheem casam the dark enlightenment, bro tech feudalism.
We have to have this conversation. It's a you know,
it's a partner's discussion, as we say your thoughts, brother, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Steve, Look, I think I think we're at a point
now where I'm kind of In fact, I am ecstatic
that these people showed their hands really before January twentieth,
because it allows us to set the tone.
Speaker 10 (42:53):
For the next four years. I think it's much more
difficult once.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
You get these people ingratiated, you get their positions, and
now we have the opportunity.
Speaker 10 (43:01):
And I think it's incumbent upon this audience.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
By the way, I really want to stress this to
the audience.
Speaker 10 (43:05):
I can't stress it more.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
You know, you actually have to get stuck into this conversation.
You cannot be a passive observer. Firstly, this audience I
know fundamentally never passive observers, but double down here. You know,
we need you as the force multipliers here to go
to these people and say, hey, you know you've fluted
this idea, right, and this idea is indicative of a
(43:27):
wider mindset here which the H one bbs a system
we need to keep it. You know, test that applied
for thirty seven hundred, as we revealed on the National
Pulse yesterday, thirty seven hundred labor applications to prop up
their H one B scheme. You look at the companies
that are using it, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Infrocess, all of
these huge, huge tech conglomerates that are nourishing the ordinary
(43:50):
wages for the ordinary American worker. Right, And I think,
ladies and gentlemen, you have to go to these people,
get into their Twitter replies, right, Elon Musks, all.
Speaker 10 (43:59):
These guys, and hey, you had this argument. You lost
this argument. You look at the pole that Sean Spicer
put up. There's a bunch of others out there, by
the way as well. This show exactly the same thing.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Seventy percent of people of the one hundred thousand people
or so that are voting in these X poles on
his own platform are in agreement with Stephen K. Bannen
and the Magabase over this issue. They do not want
more H one B visus. They actually a lot of
people want a full moratorium on immigration. Quite frankly, and
don't let them tell you that's a crazy thing, because
(44:30):
this is exactly what happened in the nineteen eighties. I
remember it happening in the United Kingdom as well. But actually,
you know, between the fifties and the eighties, you had
such a huge amount of people coming in they had
to go, wait, hold on a minute, we need to
take a beat, we need to take a step back,
and we.
Speaker 10 (44:43):
Need to reset. And actually a lot of people feel
that way too.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
This country is one of the most generous, if not
the most generous country in the world. You've welcomed in
people from all over the world. There is there is
people that I me every single day out there, and
especially because of my background, I have conversations with the
about this stuff, and they say, hey, if the numbers
lend towards assimilation and integration, then we don't mind a
(45:07):
little bit of immigration. But you do not have an
immigration system that works like that right now. And for
these tech feudalists to come along and say, you know what,
there's really nothing wrong with all of this. The only
problem that we have is the illegals in the border.
Speaker 10 (45:19):
That is a falsehood.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
It is an outright lie, and it is insulting towards you,
the American people. It's not just insulting to the American
workers because guess what a lot of these people who
come in on these visas, they end up getting.
Speaker 13 (45:30):
Social support welfare as a result of their wages being
so far the lower. So you are subsidizing it three four,
five times over with your tax money and your parents'
tax money, and the effort and the money that your
grandparents paid into the system. So that's where we are
on this argument. I want people to get stuck in.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Tell these people you've lost Now. The number one priority
for the Magabase is getting the removal of H one
B as a system to number one on.
Speaker 10 (45:59):
The Doge playlist.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
One number one.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
And they're all getting deported the same time, the illegal
aliens for the crush of low skilled workers.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
We're getting rid of the HB one v's.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
They're all going home and American workers are going to
take their place, and the sociopathic tech oralord is just
going to have to deal with it.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Raheem.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Where do people go for the National Pulse? Where they
go get you?
Speaker 10 (46:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Absolutely, the National Pulse dot com forward slash Warroom. If
you want more reading into the Studies Journal. We have
plenty more over the next couple of days. I mean
this isn't going away immediately. We're going to be planning
plenty more resources into it. Get stuck in, become a member,
support our work The National Pulse dot com Forward slash Warroom.
Speaker 10 (46:47):
Thanks Steve, love.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
You, love you, brother sir raheem.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
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Speaker 2 (48:48):
See there,
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it. I know you don't
like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything
in the world to stop that, but you're not going
to stop it.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Mega media?
Speaker 5 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Will be saved.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
Or use your host, Stephen k Ban.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It's Monday, thirty December, in the Year of a Lored
twenty twenty four. We have an all star group of guests. Allison,
just one thing. I asked you to hang on doun.
I want to get will up in here, give me
some numbers. But and I appreciate the kind words about
Elon Musk because I don't want to seem like I'm
singling Elon out for special treatment here. And I've said
(01:12):
from the beginning that Elon did write a two hundred
fifty million dollars check to support the ground game, and
it was one of the leading of not the leading. Well,
the ground game was the reason President Trump won. His
supporters came out and got low propensity, lowerformation voters out,
and David Sachs had the you know, the.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Dinner in June, but that was in June.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
These guys are just coming to the party and they've
got their own set of beliefs and own set of economics.
That's not Maga economics. It's not America first economics. It
certainly not American systems first. Just since you do know
him and he is at I guess the IQ.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Level of a genius.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Is there any possibility, ma'am that he doesn't fully understand
the scam nature? Since he dug in so hard, he
was going to fight forever and pull up every different
type of thing we hadn't seen. We were not going
to see warfare like this. Of course, he collapsed twelve
hours later. Is there any possibility that he doesn't understand
(02:09):
the full scam of the H one B Visu's any possibility.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
That's a great question. I think he did admit that
he's somewhere on the spectrum and many people who know
him he's singularly focused on getting humanity to Mars. He
doesn't care about money. Every dollar he has goes into
basically getting us a backup plan for planet Earth. He
(02:38):
really believes that he lives in very humble accommodations. He
works very late. Like I said, he wakes up very
early in the morning and he can sleep on the
floor underneath his death So he doesn't care about money
like the other big tech oligarc So I think there
(02:59):
is a little bit of a misunderstanding and misguidance from
Musk perspective.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Okay, there is something.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Hang on out, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
A guy who's going to get us to Mars, and
not just to the Moon for a visit in a
in a in a dry by, I mean a colony
on Mars, to have an alternative for the human species,
of which he's one of the leaders in artificial intelligence
and chipping, so that he's already working on Homo sapiens
plus or two point zero. But we'll leave that topic
(03:34):
for a different day. But to save humanity and to
take humanity, Uh, he's got to be pretty smart and
being pretty smart. Just again, does he not fully understand
soup to nuts the total and complete scam that h
one b visus are when you talk about high skilled
foreign workers.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Ma'am, I don't think he does, because we need to
move up one level in the Medican cognition kind of
like you know, value system. He sees the world from
a spreadsheet perspective. And Steve, mister Bannon, I love your
perspective because I'm from the same viewpoint. You lead by
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human values, Judale Christian values. This is what makes American great,
the culture. You know, these type of value systems that
we have. And we've seen government departments ran by wiz
kid in the past, and as you know, the war room.
(04:36):
I'm a child of war torn Vietnam, and so the
whiz kids back in the nineteen sixties was led by
Robert McNamara, the Secretary of Defense, and they did an
awful job with Vietnam, torching, bombing a developing country, killing
mostly women and children, and of course the young men
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American men to serve them. So we need to be
really careful when we rule by spreadsheet. And I think
that's the misguidance of mister Musk and mister Ramaswami. No
offense to them, but they are the new wiz Kids,
whiz Kids two point zero. And I love mister Musk
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personally and all he's done for humanity, but we need
to lead by human values.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Steve Alison, hang over a second. I know you come
from your parents from more to Vietnam. When you come
back to that, Alison makes an absolutely brilliant point talk
about mcnah and the whiz Kids. Remember they all came
out of they all came out of the bombing program
of World War two to destroy this guys, these are
the guys that came out of Harvard Business School.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Is led by mcnurr, but others.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
This gets back to twelve o'clock High, which is my
favorite film about leadership. Twelve o'clock High about the bombing squads.
Remember to keep the formations of the of the B seventeens.
You had to drop payload over Nazi Germany to destroy
the industrial base. And you had to do that during daytime.
You couldn't do it at night. It was just too imperfect.
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Eventually they got it together after tremendous amount of casualties
of American flyers because even the Brits would not fly
at daytime. They didn't have enough pilots, not enough planes.
They took that then to Asia, and this is the
bloody Battle of Saipan. To take Saipan was to get
an airstrip. That airstrip was to be able to bomb
Imperial Japan back into oblivion. I remember, these guys had
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no earthy idea that Project.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Trinity was going on.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
There was going to be a nuclear weapon at the
end that could actually take out the four million American
servicemen invasion of Japan, and we fire bombed Osaka, we
fire bombed Tokyo. Actually the casualties there were even higher.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Than nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But those whiz kids took the mathematics of that and
then tried to apply it to the what the mathematics
of Vietnam, a war of you'd say, nationalism, counter insurgency,
whatever you want to say. But they did it by
body count. And that's why, year after year after year
you got the same lines and misrepresentations that in American
young men fifty thousand went over his combat casualties because
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you had the same type of sociopathic overlord you have
in Silicon Valley today that just looks at a spreadsheet
and doesn't think speaking of that spreadsheet, Hang on, Alison,
and hang on Kevin. I want to go to I
want to go to will Upton. Well, you've done a
good job of going through this report now, and I
want to say the guy actually maybe took some data
(07:40):
that wasn't total H one b's, but directionally he's telling
me about overall because the whole there's many different programs
to gut the American worker.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Here's what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
They're trying to add any any possibility they can get
away from paying an American American worker at the basic
wage at the marketplace allows they will do that. And
they're maniacal about thinking about not how to better your life,
how to get around and make you compete against everybody
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on planet Earth unfairly. So will walk us through what's
on National Pulse today that you've been able to go through, sir.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Yeah, so you know this USCIS report and exactly what
you're talking about with sort of it's not just the
H one B, it's H two b's, it's it's F one,
it's F two.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
It's these E three visas we saw with the.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Funny quips online about the male Australian strippers.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Those are E three visas. You got to go wait,
wait seriously.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
But in this us CIS report, there's also an interesting
data point that this in the prior fiscal year, in
the fiscal year twenty twenty three, we actually saw over
fifty five thousand non immigrant visas converted over to work
visas of various types. Mostly these originally student visas or
tourist visas. And us CIS basically throws up their hands
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and says, yes, these are the spouses and children of
H one B visa holders who are now in the
US as well, because it's chain migration and they're now
getting work permits and work visas as well.
Speaker 10 (09:14):
You know.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Buried in this point, it's roughly around two hundred thousand
additional individuals are coming over with the H one bs.
So again these are you know, a husband or a
wife or a child for the most part.
Speaker 9 (09:28):
So you also don't.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
Just have this three hundred and eighty six thousand people
coming over with the H one B program, but you
also have their kids, their wife, you know, family members,
things like that. You slowly start bringing over whole families
and you end up in this chain migration situation.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
And you know, and also.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
Speaking to Kevin's point earlier, you know, in terms of
people sort of being locked into these jobs, that's also
backed up by this USCIS data only seventy five thousand.
It's about seventy six thousand. Actually h one b workers
filed for a change of employment petitions actually changed jobs.
Speaker 9 (10:03):
It's less than twenty percent of the of the total.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
H one bs that were in the United States and
twenty twenty three in the fiscal year of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 9 (10:12):
So most of these people are staying within their job.
They're not changing jobs.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
They're not being able to use you know, the prospect
of other employment is leverage and salary negotiations and all
of this is having downward pressure on wages for American workers.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, where do people go? At National Pulse? I want
everybody go over the day. Raheem and Will been doing
a great job on this. I know you've got a
lot more that you're going to break. Where do folks go? Yeah,
and what else are you guys going to be rolling
out that we can't expect?
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Yeah, you can check out all of our work at the
National Pulse dot com.
Speaker 9 (10:46):
You know, he saw'm on Twitter at wuckton wu p
t o N.
Speaker 10 (10:52):
You know.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
My next ton of project I've got coming down the
pipeline here is actually looking at some of these nonprofit
and contractors that are.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Exempt from the H one B caps.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
So these are the guys who are kind of you know,
the statutory cap is eighty five thousand, but we're letting
in you know, probably about thirty thousand more on top
of that through these uncapped employers. So the next stage
we're going to be is kind of looking at who
these individuals are, who these companies are, and what exactly
it is that they're working on.
Speaker 9 (11:18):
Because again, most of these H one b's or bachelor's.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Degrees, you know, some masters, very very few PhDs, and
a lot of them just have technical training.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Thank you so much, well, Upton, great work, National Pulse,
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Raheem's breakdown of all this just amazing. Hopefully, well Upton,
we're not going to have access to you when you
go into the administration.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Hopefully back over Treasury, great guy, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
If they say, oh, we need the Einstein's, we need
the most brilliant, we need this, the higher skilled the Americans.
If we deported every H one B worker this afternoon
on the thre is December and the year of OLLERD
twenty twenty four, are there American workers at the same
skill sets or higher that could take their place?
Speaker 11 (12:07):
Sir, Absolutely, these Americans had to train their replacements. Don't
forget between. In the last two years, between twenty twenty
two and twenty twenty four, Silicon Valley has laid off
over six hundred thousand workers. There are roughly five hundred
and eighty three thousand H one b's in the country today.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Now.
Speaker 11 (12:30):
Interestingly enough, as bad as H one B is, there's
an even worse program. It's called Optional STEM Optional Practical Training.
And this wasn't even legislated by Congress, So this is
a backdoor deal done by Michael Chertoff and Bill Gates
to create this employment authorization documents.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
For foreign students.
Speaker 11 (12:54):
So if you're a foreign student and you graduate with
a STEM degree, you can get a three year work
permit here in the United States. Employers love it because
they don't have to pay FIKA so security healthcare because
they're a student, and they can pay this OPT worker
anything they want because it's practical training. This is a
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clear case of deference. We need to shover on this thing,
and the Supreme Court needs to take a stand on
it and get rid of it because this wasn't even
legislated by Congress, and right now there are as many
optional practical training EMP employment documents out there as there
are h one B workers. So yes, Steve to your question,
(13:40):
if we got rid of this program tomorrow, we would
be just fine.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Kevin, where do people get you? We got a thirty
seconds where they go to find out more about US
tech workers.
Speaker 11 (13:51):
Best place find us on x at US tech Workers
or our website Institute for Soundpublic Policy dot org.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Thank you, brother, fantastic great initial voyage here with Kevin.
Short break Alison Winn and maybe a surprise or two
President Trump. Breaking news. President Trump has given his total
and complete endorsement a speaker, Johnson. I think there's something
going on there. Not so sure how many people are
(14:21):
actually gonna show up on Fridays. I think President Trump
is as you know, that would not be my first choice.
But President Trump gets his cabinet, and President Trump gets.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
His speakers and the folks he wants to work with.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We'll talk more about that in depth, not oh baby,
on a Monday here in the war room. But we'll
tell you about what's going on the speakers.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
We're gonna give you the.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Inside baseball short commercial break back in a moment, Stephen K.
(15:01):
Bath it's unconditional surrender Monday, and we are going to
get we're folks. If you haven't, you're not keeping score
at home. We're winning this and we're winning it bigly,
and we're going to win it one. Because the program
is a total and complete scam and a con and
it hurts two groups of people. You shouldn't breathe our country.
(15:24):
It's bad enough we tolerate the destruction of L'abaijing by
a demonic regime in Beijing, a group of gangsters and criminals.
But it's uh, it's almost as bad. I think that
we allowed indentured servitude into this nation for higher margins
(15:44):
for our sociopathic overlords in Silicon Valley. Allison, I know
recently you've punched out on the Democratic Party. I'm going
to get you back, but just give us two minutes
on that. What was it about this time in American
history that obviously made somebody from stay, which is the
second best university in this country in back of Harvard.
Why you shifted, particularly during the age of Trump, to.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Kind of support us.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Yeah, so it's not your father's Republican party, Trump's Republican Party.
I feel with MAGA is very inclusive. It's about free speech,
not censoring people. It's the voice for the working class.
It's the voice of common sense. And as a mother
of three teenagers, especially during COVID and San Francisco, it
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was very woke. I had to undergo a lot of stuff.
I couldn't even really walk out on the streets of
San Francisco. And when I talked about it, people said, oh, Allison,
you're overreacting about the grocery stores closing. You're overreacting about crime,
about the stuff going on at the schools. They wanted
to rename Abraham Lincoln High School and spend twenty seven
(17:00):
million to rename all these high schools because they said
Abraham Lincoln was a racist. And then I had to
fire back, He freed the slaves, How can he be
a racist? And so there were all these little things
that divorced me from the Democratic Party, just like you
know my own divorce. There was not one big thing,
and you know, there was just a lot of gaslighting.
(17:22):
You know, there is crime, the grocery stores are closing.
We shouldn't be doing this to our public school districts.
We need to be you know, the fundamental problem with
this argument is that we need to focus more on
STEM education in the US. The VEC is right in
that regards, but we don't talk about all the DEI
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stuff that we had to encounter. And when I was
running the Team school board, you know there were many
d I initiatives. They wanted to have drag Queen story
time with a drag show on the side. Why are
we spending public school money, taxpayers money on this we
need If we're and we are having this training issues
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workforce training in STEM, we need to be focusing on
real life STEM education, making it more engaging, training the
next generation of workers in the age of the Golden
Age of AI. So we need to be focusing on math, reading,
and science and not this DEI curriculum. So that's why
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I moved over. It's just very practical for me, Allison.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Where do people get you on social media or your
website that people want to learn more about you?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Where they go.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Just on Twitter? At Aliwynn. So I'm really excited to
go now to the Maga Trump Republican Party. I think
it's a it's a big realignment of values, right, and
President Electron is leading by values and he appreciates mister
Musk and mister Vovk's spreadsheet the way they look at
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the world. But like you know, we appreciate how you
look at the world too.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
The thank you, thank you, ma'am, appreciate you, thank you
for coming on.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We appreciate anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Anybody that brings up the whiz kids and connects the
bombing of in Vietnam in the in the in World
War two to what's going today is quite brilliant.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So we'll definitely have her back on fantastic. Laura Lumer
joins us. Laura, Uh, certain aspects of this have One
of my concerns is that people don't appreciate when we
say America. First, we're talking about the nation.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And a nation has a borders, a nation has customs
and tradition.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
UH.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
A nation has has most importantly its citizens. It's our
greatest resource.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And you have in Silicon Valley what I call kind
of the Medici's or the Borgia's this this kind of
network they want to get back to kind of the
city states, you know, Florence and Venus of Renaissance Italy.
I refer to this as techno feudalism, and I know
that it's one of the things that you've been driving
Explain to people when you say this is a feudalistic system,
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or that you want certain parts of this to be
to be like feudal sociopathic overlords.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
What do we mean by that, ma'am?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Well, you have to understand the philosophy that all of
these tech bros and the technocratic tyrants and the billionaires
who come from this very oppressive society in Silicon Valley
subscribe to in order to understand what their long term
goals are for infiltrating the White House. And so it
really all begins with the fact that they subscribe to
(20:42):
a neo reactionary political movement otherwise known as Dark Enlightenment.
And essentially what that means is that they want society
to operate like a corporation. They believe that the most
high iq people, the tech elites, the wealthiest people in
our country should be the people who are leading our society.
And so what they really want is they want a
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country that operates like a corporation with a CEO monarch.
And so you have people who have unlimited resources, billionaires
in Silicon Valley, who are controlling the flow of information,
who subscribe to a philosophy that is really trying to
advocate for the elimination of democracy, the elimination of a
constitutional republic, and the implementation of monarchy in America.
Speaker 12 (21:28):
And Peter Thiel.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Subscribes to this, and I really do believe that people
like Elon Musk subscribe to this cdeology. Jd Vance, who
is now the incoming Vice president, has also subscribed to
this ideology, and you can see that he's actually spoken
out about how he supports dark Enlightenment. And what we
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need to have a conversation about is what is it
going to mean for the future of our country, our
national security, and the incoming Trump administration. If we have
a bunch of techno krats who are also essentially welfare
queens because their companies are receiving government subsidies and they
want to take over our defense industry.
Speaker 12 (22:09):
If you have a bunch of tech.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Bros with billions of dollars and direct unfettered access to
the Vice President and the President of the United States.
Speaker 12 (22:16):
And then they are also.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Uh, you know, very cordial with our adversaries, as in
China and Iran. We see that Elon Musk is having
these meetings off the books with Iranian officials, with Chinese officials.
Speaker 12 (22:30):
What does that mean for us and the future of
our constitutional.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Republican hang, hangover second hanging. I want to go back
because I miss jd on Dark Enlightenment. First of all,
explain to us again because we love nomenclature and putting
out because ideas have consequences. When you say this construct
dark enlightenment, what is it? What does it mean? Where
to come from? You know, put some put some meat
(22:54):
on the bone.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Well, as I said before, it's this idea that society
should all operate as a corporation and the elite should
be in charge. And so one of the brain children
behind this philosophy is a guy by the name of
Curtis Jarvin. And I don't know how much time I
have really to explain all of this, but Curtis Yarvin,
of course receives his funding from Peter tele Peter Tiel
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was a big backer of jd Vance's Senate campaign, and
he claimed to have been a big supporter of President Trump.
Yet several months before the election, when he was speaking
in the UK and he was asked point blank whether
or not he was going to be supporting the incoming
Trump administration and if he was going to be voting
for President Trump and Jade Vance, he really just had
this kind of stutter attack as he often does, where
(23:41):
he profusely stuttered on stage and really just seemed incapable
of answering a very simple question, will you be voting
for President Trump and jd Vance? So it's very concerning
because these guys, what they want to do is they
want to basically incite a civil war in our country.
Speaker 12 (23:56):
I believe, I believe that they.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Want this idea of tech feudal to UH to create
so much conflict with the nationalist MAGA base so that
it kind of sparks a civil war, which is what
it's being called now right, a MAGA civil war. And
they want to flame these nationalist UH the tensions that
are created by this shift in the nationalist movement of
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our party.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
This this, this is not a civil war because they're
not tough enough. They're just not they folded. I mean
it was embarrassing. Oh, we're going to fight to the death.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
We're gonna do this. We're gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
We're gonna see war that you've never seen before. Then
the next tweet, well, we know it needs to be reformed,
but we're just talking about points there. No, no, you
don't let me go back, uh to Curtis Jarvin. He's
a quite brilliant guy. Walk me through. We got about
a minute here and then I'll hold you through. Raheem
Casanzo tell me about Jarvin.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Well, we can have a much greater conversation at this
in a later time. I really want to focus though
on the tech tyrants, and I want to talk about
how Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and how okay.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Okay, okay, but la la la la. I know what
you want to focus on. I asked you about Curtis Sharvin.
Can you just answer the question, ma'am?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Well, he as I said before, he's one of the
brain children behind dark enlightenment theory.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And what is dark enlightenment means? What again?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Because it's because you're seeing a manifestation through through through
Sacks and through vivic and through Elon Muss, but his
core concept is dark enlightenment is like a new enlightenment
or hang on, tell you what, hang on, We'll hold
you to the brain because I want to get to
the bottom of this, what what their intentions are, because
this is all.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
New ground for folks. This is like what are they
talking about?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I want to make sure the world posse is up
to speed on the ideas, because ideas have consequences. You've
seen it manifest in this kind of grubby fight over
H one B visas, which, let me repeat, must be eliminated.
One the workers that are here on H one B
visas should be deported at the same time we're deporting
(26:01):
the fifteen million illegal aliens that Biden brought across the
border to suppress wages of low income workers. American workers
should be hired immediately to fill those gaps, and then
we should start the discussions on reparations, on reparations on
what they knowingly did to American techory short commercial break
back in a moment.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 10 (27:01):
Bah So.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Raheem's on deck. Ben Harnwell got Ben. Ben's probably to
slip bend de mars so a lot of news. President
Trump's come endorsed speaker Johnson. I think that has to
do folks with Tom Massey's already come out. I think
Sparks has come out and says he's got to do
a bunch of stuff. This is Johnson. I'm not sure
who's going to show up on Friday, but inside Baseball
(27:26):
is telling me you may be short a congressman or two.
There may be some other issues going on. I think
with President Trump goes January sixth.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Is upon us.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I believe, I strongly believe that this right now is
to let's get through this and see how this thing
turns out. Look As everybody knows, I'm not a fan
of Johnson. I don't think he's got the right stuff
to bring us through this. But I think there's some
other structural issues we just have to deal with. So
President Trump is coming endorsed him, and I think with
(27:55):
that endorsement Johnson, unless there's just a complete throwdown by
a couple of people besides Sparts, we'll have to see
you do it. But I think one of the reasons
is the denominator here may be changing for reasons well
beyond our control. President Trump's controls. So I'll have more
about that tomorrow morning. But he's come out with a
full thrown and endorsement of Speaker Johnson. Two folks we got.
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There's so much converging on the twentieth and so many
issues ed dow We don't get ed dout on today,
which I don't think we're gonna be able to in
the morning show. I want everybody and if the great
team in Denver, with Real America's voice and my own
crack squad can push out ed Dowd's amazing piece in
Zero Hedge about what we've been talking about is Yellen
(28:40):
has been playing games with the balance sheet. There's something
wrong here and the bond market is starting to revolt. Also,
Yellen drops at the close of business on Friday this letter.
They say that emergency measures have got to start being used,
like on the are we going to hit the debt limit?
Emergency measures have to start being used. I think by
the thirteenth of January anything at a lot of things
(29:01):
going on in that regard Laura Lumber, why are why
are the strong? You know, the people that are worth
hundreds of billions of dollars? And Elon's pretty upfront he
wants to be the first tree in air that he
spends his time as Alison Wynn, who spent personal time
with him, focus on getting humanity, saving humanity by getting
it to Mars, a colony of Mars, somebody that deals
(29:22):
at that level with it. Why is he afraid of
Laura Lumer uh ma'am?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Well, I think that a lot of people have a
hard time speaking truth to power, and a lot of
people are afraid of taking on billionaires. And while he
is the richest man in the world, and so he
kind of orbits President Trump. As I called him the
other day, I said, he's a stage five clinger. And
the reality is is that a lot of President Trump's
advisors and people can deny this all they want, and
a lot of people are not going to say this
because they're dependent on their Twitter monetization checks, which is
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why Elon Musk has well, I've been demonetized. Now I've
had my check mark taken away. They realize that, well,
they're put to President Trump is now being overshadowed by
the richest man in the world who has these ulterior motives. So,
as I said before, does he really support MAGA and
the America first agenda or is he trying to push
(30:14):
this neo reactionary political movement so that we can establish
a monarchy and have multipolarity. So I think that he
doesn't like the fact that somebody who has direct access
to President Trump, as as I do, and that's very
well known, challenged him in a very public manner, and
it's dominated the news cycle over these last few days.
(30:34):
And so I don't think that it's acceptable for George Soros,
Elon Musk or Peter Tiel. It doesn't matter what side
of the political aisle a billionaire is on.
Speaker 12 (30:44):
I don't think that it's acceptable for.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Billionaires to have this much power, in this much access,
so that not only are they going to have government
access to our money and government influence as we saw
over the spending bill, by threatening primaries against against people
who don't comply with his wishes.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
But this is a guy who.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Gets government subsidies for defense contracts and now wants to
silence people who challenge him online. And I'm not the
only account that was shut down, And they said, well,
you were shut down because you dock someone. Okay, well
it was an honest mistake. If they want to say that,
I docked somebody, and I have since issued an apology
for not having all of the information blurred out for
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Serum Kershon's finance record at the FEC that shows that
he donated to Democrats a month before the presidential election.
And I think that we should be able to criticize
the tech elite, the tech bros. They're very triggered by
the term tech bros, who are going to now have
enormous amounts of power in the Trump administration, especially given
the fact that these people are Johnny come Lately. It's okay,
(31:47):
they all supported ron De Santis. First of all, they
all supported Democrats, then they supported Ronda Santis, then they
supported vi Vike Ramaswame, and they only decided to support
President Trump out of an act of sympathy when we
almost watch President Trump had explode with the bullet of
an assassin on Live TV and Butler Pennsylvania. So we
need to have these conversations, and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 12 (32:09):
That things have escalated the way that they have escalated.
But we'll see.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Hopefully I'm reinstated and hopefully I'm remonetized.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, I don't think it's I don't I think exhaalation
is good.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
We get down to it. Remember, they're the ones, they're
the ones backpedaling, and like I said, when the enemy
is in retreat, fixed ban NEETs and pursue.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
When I say it's unfortunate that things have escalated, it's
unfortunate that the MAGA base has had to sustain abuse
from the richest man in the world, being called retards
and saying uh, you.
Speaker 12 (32:40):
Know, uh f you in the face. Okay, so I
just think that I think it's time.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But no, Hey, hal it.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
We're tough. Hey, we're battle hardened over a decade of fighting.
People are very very Hey, that's nothing. It's a it's
something who cratered. I mean, it is going to fight
to the ends of the earth and for everything, is
going to new steps of warfare. And the next tweet
is that, oh yeah, well the thing needs to be reformed.
But I only want to bring the Einstein's in. Laura,
we got to bounce social media where they get you.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Well, now that my ex subscriptions have been canceled, I
encourage all of you to subscribe to me at Laura
Lumer dot substack dot com. You can still follow me
on x at Laura Lumer, true social at Laura Lumer
and my website lumored dot com. But I appreciate you
having me on, Steve, and happy to come on to
talk about this even more because I do believe that
(33:29):
this tech infiltration is the greatest threat to our country
and humanity as a whole.
Speaker 10 (33:33):
We have to talk.
Speaker 12 (33:34):
We have to stop technocratic supremacy.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Wow, techno feudalism. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you coming on always.
Speaker 12 (33:43):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
She's featured in Rebels, Rogues and Outlaws, amazing photography of
Laura Lumer, plus Dan Flout's great writing and also my
next guest, Rahem Casam. Everybody looks amazing this book. Dan
is a true artist. I think one of the great
photographers of the twenty first century. Don't take it from me,
just get the book, go to Amazon. It's unbelievable. And
Dan and I have worked together for twenty years on films,
(34:06):
and I didn't know this creative side of him on
the photography side. When he really had a chance to
kind of take some time and do it the right
way without me yelling at him, he could actually do it.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
It's turned out magnificent.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
In fact him, we only got you by phone today,
but you look, you look amazing, and you look very
thoughtful in this book. Very you look you look like
Sir Raheem as we refer to you now, brother, put
in perspective this fight that's taking place over the last
sevent tower hours because.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
We're all down for it.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
We're down for it, and we know it has meaning
and purpose and that's why we continue to pursue it.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Your thoughts, sir, Yeah, thanks, Steve.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Look, I think anybody who can make you and me
look good is a true artist of really some some
you know. That's an one B VISA qualifier right there.
The argument, the conversation that we're having right now, and
I really think people need to pay attention to what
(35:01):
Laura was saying. I understand it for a lot of people.
You know, Laura can come across across a little jarring sometimes,
but it's but it's it's because of the passion and
the foresight when you see things coming down the pipeline.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
Is she just talked about.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
What she talked about is really interesting distinction on the
political right that is already manifesting itself before Donald J.
Speaker 10 (35:22):
Trump even gets to take the oath.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Of office again, which is this distinction between like the
dark enlightenment side, you know. And by the way, this
is not some fringe thing. A lot of people on
the political right, a lot of people that I talk
to on a day to day basis, subscribe to that
level of thinking, which is that, hey, you know, democracy
has kind of run its course. The founders had qte ideas,
(35:46):
but we're living in a different world now and we
need to move towards this kind of tech feudalism. Have
a have an indentured servitude class and then a moneyed
elite who kind of know how to do things. And
by the way, to add to that, you saw that
coming out in the last forty eight hours. I think
Elon Musk was asked on X, you know what kind
(36:07):
of governance the people of Mars should have, and he
said they should not have representative democracy. He said, look,
it's up to them that he wouldn't go with a
representative democracy model, which is effectively what you know, that
a representative democracy underneath the great you know idea of
a republic was the idea of your founders. And I
(36:32):
think we can all agree that representative democracy has its challenges.
Speaker 10 (36:36):
Has its limits. But what is the counter to that?
And where are the tech people coming.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
From when they say, right, you know, we have to
move on from these ideas from the seventeen hundreds and
move into this tech feudalism era.
Speaker 10 (36:48):
It's not good.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And I know, for the first time people are hearing this,
a lot of people will be like, what are you
guys talking about? We haven't seen this, We don't know
this is going on. Believe me, if you get into
the weaves on you know, a lot of the journals
that come out, a lot of the things that get
you know, that.
Speaker 10 (37:06):
Get mailed to you and your door, a lot of the.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Write ups in Claremont Review of Books and American Mind
and all this stuff, You'll start to pick out patterns
where there are authors and writers and thinkers who are
actually trying to say, like, hey, actually, maybe we need
kind of of a nouveau monarchy. And I really do
think for as much as Elon Musk, you know, has
done good, I really do think that Elon Musk fancies
(37:32):
himself as one of these nou veaux monarchs, as this
kind of ruling, new ruling class of person. And it
comes across in how he talks about the ordinary working man.
You see the difference if you google to the audience,
if you google Stephen K. Bannon and courtesy Aarvin, they
would have you believe, like all of these lefty academics
who just don't get it, they would.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
Have you believe that you two are the same, and
you believe in the same things, and you want the
same things. Your end goal is the same. Basically both fascists.
It couldn't be further from the truth. But Stephen K.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Bannon's populism is about empowering the smallest in society, empowering
the people who have had their.
Speaker 10 (38:11):
Futures robbed of them.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
And the other version of popularism and inverted commas actually
isn't populism at all. It uses populism as an end
to something else. And that's the conversation that we're having today.
And the eighth one is a symptom of that wider problem,
that wider discourse, that wider argument that's had on the
political right.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Some of the people weaking some way to you know,
do the this visa program is massiveness.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
How they got it.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
But I want to go back. This goes to the time.
You remember all these guys were progressive Democrats. They were
all huge supporters of the Democratic Party. We're really going
to techno fascism. This is this is what happened during
the pandemic. This is the great awakening of people coming
to find out exactly what the Democrats dood for. All
these guys were Democrats. They're all Democrats. In June of
(39:01):
this past year, when all of a sudden it became evident,
you know, around the time of the debate with Biden,
that Trump and the Trump movement was rising up at
Elon's very smart guy. He didn't randomly sit there and
go I mean, he talked to the people that mattered,
the people running Charlie Kirk's organization, people running this ground game.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
He's an engineer.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
He really thought it through and says, hey, I'm going
to write significant checks and I'm not putting into TV ads.
I'm gonna put it to back this kind of populous movement.
So what Raheem's talking about, And look, the enemy of
my enemy is my friend. They're coming aboard was central
to the victory. We're not saying that, but we have
to get to the bottom of what. You know, Curtis
(39:40):
Jarvin is one of the most important thinkers in modern
political thought, and he's virtually unknown. This dark Enlightenment is
absolutely one of the key concepts you have to understand.
And just like we've done modern monetary theory and the
pandemic and all of it, right, it is essential, essential
that you understand and this because you are the tip
(40:02):
of the tip of the spear and the salvation of
this constitutional republic. And if we go down, we're gonna
go down fighting. But you know what, I don't think
we're going down. We're winning. Just fixed Bannett's short commercial break.
We're gonna go out with Gotta Love the song from
(40:23):
Philip Kaufman's Masterpiece based upon Tom Wolfe's masterpiece The Right Stuff.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
Back in a moment, here's your host even came back.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
By the way, so Grace informs me that I think
in our our Twitter, I don't know Twitter comments, there's
like they're spamming all the comments. Hey, they can play
all the games they want. They're they're losing this and
they're gonna lose it big. Here's our condition for you.
Surrender that you put at the top of DOSEE is
the number one thing to be eliminated the H one
B visas or we're gonna get it eliminated. Okay, we're
gonna get it eliminated. Is a scam to destroy American
(41:26):
workers and American families. And we've proven uh and and
and hate elon vivek any of you guys, David Sachslos
start coming out.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
We want to see the examples.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Show us the examples of the high skilled workers that
you couldn't get American workers for. Let's see it. Show it,
Show us the receipts. We're we're open minded people.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
We are we want to go where the data tells
us to go, right, So.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Show us, show us the money, show us the receipts,
show us the beef to show us.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Alison Winston shoes at Google and they're her entire time.
There was one person that actually came from France that
had something to do with robotics that they couldn't replace.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I still want to see that.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
So bottom line is, show us, show us all the geniuses,
all the Einstein's that came over here, the higher skilled workers.
It's a total and complete line, not kind of a lie.
And anybody that's sending us to Mars and going to
conelize Mars.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
And thinking great thoughts.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Totally understands that Raheem casam the dark enlightenment, bro tech feudalism.
We have to have this conversation. It's a you know,
it's a partner's discussion, as we say your thoughts, brother, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Steve, Look, I think I think we're at a point
now where I'm kind of In fact, I am ecstatic
that these people showed their hands really before January twentieth,
because it allows us to set the tone.
Speaker 10 (42:53):
For the next four years. I think it's much more
difficult once.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
You get these people ingratiated, you get their positions, and
now we have the opportunity.
Speaker 10 (43:01):
And I think it's incumbent upon this audience.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
By the way, I really want to stress this to
the audience.
Speaker 10 (43:05):
I can't stress it more.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
You know, you actually have to get stuck into this conversation.
You cannot be a passive observer. Firstly, this audience I
know fundamentally never passive observers, but double down here. You know,
we need you as the force multipliers here to go
to these people and say, hey, you know you've fluted
this idea, right, and this idea is indicative of a
(43:27):
wider mindset here which the H one bbs a system
we need to keep it. You know, test that applied
for thirty seven hundred, as we revealed on the National
Pulse yesterday, thirty seven hundred labor applications to prop up
their H one B scheme. You look at the companies
that are using it, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Infrocess, all of
these huge, huge tech conglomerates that are nourishing the ordinary
(43:50):
wages for the ordinary American worker. Right, And I think,
ladies and gentlemen, you have to go to these people,
get into their Twitter replies, right, Elon Musks, all.
Speaker 10 (43:59):
These guys, and hey, you had this argument. You lost
this argument. You look at the pole that Sean Spicer
put up. There's a bunch of others out there, by
the way as well. This show exactly the same thing.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Seventy percent of people of the one hundred thousand people
or so that are voting in these X poles on
his own platform are in agreement with Stephen K. Bannen
and the Magabase over this issue. They do not want
more H one B visus. They actually a lot of
people want a full moratorium on immigration. Quite frankly, and
don't let them tell you that's a crazy thing, because
(44:30):
this is exactly what happened in the nineteen eighties. I
remember it happening in the United Kingdom as well. But actually,
you know, between the fifties and the eighties, you had
such a huge amount of people coming in they had
to go, wait, hold on a minute, we need to
take a beat, we need to take a step back,
and we.
Speaker 10 (44:43):
Need to reset. And actually a lot of people feel
that way too.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
This country is one of the most generous, if not
the most generous country in the world. You've welcomed in
people from all over the world. There is there is
people that I me every single day out there, and
especially because of my background, I have conversations with the
about this stuff, and they say, hey, if the numbers
lend towards assimilation and integration, then we don't mind a
(45:07):
little bit of immigration. But you do not have an
immigration system that works like that right now. And for
these tech feudalists to come along and say, you know what,
there's really nothing wrong with all of this. The only
problem that we have is the illegals in the border.
Speaker 10 (45:19):
That is a falsehood.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
It is an outright lie, and it is insulting towards you,
the American people. It's not just insulting to the American
workers because guess what a lot of these people who
come in on these visas, they end up getting.
Speaker 13 (45:30):
Social support welfare as a result of their wages being
so far the lower. So you are subsidizing it three four,
five times over with your tax money and your parents'
tax money, and the effort and the money that your
grandparents paid into the system. So that's where we are
on this argument. I want people to get stuck in.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Tell these people you've lost Now. The number one priority
for the Magabase is getting the removal of H one
B as a system to number one on.
Speaker 10 (45:59):
The Doge playlist.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
One number one.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
And they're all getting deported the same time, the illegal
aliens for the crush of low skilled workers.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
We're getting rid of the HB one v's.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
They're all going home and American workers are going to
take their place, and the sociopathic tech oralord is just
going to have to deal with it.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Raheem.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Where do people go for the National Pulse? Where they
go get you?
Speaker 10 (46:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Absolutely, the National Pulse dot com forward slash Warroom. If
you want more reading into the Studies Journal. We have
plenty more over the next couple of days. I mean
this isn't going away immediately. We're going to be planning
plenty more resources into it. Get stuck in, become a member,
support our work The National Pulse dot com Forward slash Warroom.
Speaker 10 (46:47):
Thanks Steve, love.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
You, love you, brother sir raheem.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
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