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January 31, 2025 48 mins

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, JANUARY 31ST, 2025 
JULIE KELLY 
JACK POSOBIEC
PHILLIP PATRICK
RAHEEM KASSAM


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's some new reporting that has broken since we've been
on the air. It's something we've covered for years on
this program, and it's happening. It can only be described
as the start of a massive, much larger than expected
purge at the FBI of FBI agents and officials, many
of them in one way another touched the investigations into

(00:20):
Donald Trump, Sources telling NBC News this, the office of
Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bobe asked the FBI for
a list of bureau employees involved in January sixth cases,
sparking panic inside the bureau by people who fear retribution
by the Trump administration amidst an ongoing purge of FBI leadership. Meanwhile,

(00:42):
my colleague NBC's Kendelanian reports that several top FBI executives
were told to resign or be fired, and that the
purge includes more than twenty heads of FBI field offices,
including those in Miami and Washington, DC.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, there's something I've been through chasing all day, and
it's tough because there's so many, you know, rumors and
a lot of worry being spread within the Justice Department,
within the FBI, you know. So there's this community obviously
of all of these people who work these January six cases,
you know, on the FBI side, on the DJ side.
And so what we can report is that there was
this request for this, you know, list of all these

(01:18):
individuals who worked on January six cases, and that that's
something that the Washington Field Office has has cooperated with
thus far. You know, the issue here is that it's
such a large list, and so the question is how
are they going to figure out who they're going to
be focused and targeted focused on and potentially targeting here, right,
because it's just so many people within the bureau. This

(01:39):
was the largest investigation in FBI history in terms of
number of defendants. You're talking about over one thousand, five
hundred defendants overall. And this kit touch basically every field
office in the country. And you know, some field offices
were a lot more enthusiastic about these cases, frankly than others,
because there was a lot of skepticism about these cases
within the Bureau. And you know, there was some i

(02:00):
think tension between the FBI and DJ and the Washington
Field Office and other field offices across the country over
the handling of these cases overall, and you know, but
there are these there are there're so I think there's
a span of this, right because there are people who
were very vaguely involved in at one point one January
sixth case, and then there's people who were really in

(02:21):
the weeds and January sixth was their main focus. And
I think those are the people probably have the most
story about in the coming days over whether or not,
you know, they're basically just going to be fired or
targeted based on what we've seen at headquarters thus far
and coming out of the Justice Department so far. But
if you were to go after everybody who touched the
January sixth case, I mean I had one former officials
say that would be like three fourths of the bureau

(02:42):
basically because a lot of people were involved at this
on one stage. And I remember those cases range from
those very low level cases, sort of those misdemeanor cases
that were of the most controversy all the way up
to seditious conspiracy. But the more common one was those
assault on a fed officer charges that were really common
in those AFO charges, And even people who were skeptical

(03:04):
of the Justice Department's handling of those overall knew like
we're behind those cases, and I think most of the
American public would be too. When you have a cop
getting beat by a by a rioter, that's something that
most people say that should be something that's prosecuted by
the federal government. So I think, you know the devil,
I mean, you know, the details are really going to
matter here about who they end up focusing on Nicole

(03:25):
about you know, as they go about sort of this
ongoing purge of FBI leadership, and we'll see how far
it's going to trickle down into the rank and file
of the FBI. When you're talking about the scope of this,
right in every field office, you know, when you do
an arrest, for example, that's a lot of people who
are just involved in that arrest directly, right, So you know,
there might be somebody who's actually handling this case, who's

(03:46):
actually championing one case going forward. But then when you
actually go to execute that arrest, you need a bunch
of officials involved in that. So then you know, when you're
talking about the paperwork here, there's a lot of names
on a lot of these documents that you're talking about,
the intelligence analysts who might have been involved with it
as well, because obviously everything has to be turned over
in discovery. So those are all names that would be
required to be turned over to defense attorneys on this

(04:08):
and when you know, for example, let's take the case
one of the only ongoing cases involving a January sixth
defendant who actually was convicted of plotting to murder FBI
agents who investigated him, and that was a jury in
Tennessee that convicted him of that. Separately, that case is
still ongoing, although his defense attorney is representing that Donald
Trump's pardon should apply to that conduct as well, even

(04:30):
though that was conduct that was performed way after January
six when he plotted to murder the FBI employees. But
that case, for example, just comes to mind because that
involved the I remember a large number of FBI employees,
and when they turned over those documents, it was a
lot of names that were associated with that. Because in
the discovery process, you've got to turn all of those
names over. So even if there's only sort of passing

(04:51):
involvement in one of these cases, your name is going
to be on those documents. So that list of people
who were involved in January six cases at the is
really long.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
He wanted to turn the FBI into a deep state museum.
If you wanted to do that, one of the steps
you might consider is eliminating quote, three fourths of the
bureau that touched anyuary six cases.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, that would certainly help. And the timing is a
little strange when Battell hasn't been confirmed. But look, just
start with breath. It is everything that Ryan says. So
if it's not three quarters, let's say it's just half.
But remember fifteen hundred people. They are still looking for
some of them. So the possibility for one agency or
another to be tagged with serving a warrant or interviewing

(05:38):
a witness to try to find out all over the
country with this investigation, the largest in DJA history, is extreme.
And by the way, if it's anything like this, the
implications for us for citizens of twenty special agents in
charge being eliminated, all the things they do public corruption

(06:01):
for starters, but street crime, everything. So the real it's
a body blow to everybody in the country. But I
really want to say, even if the BREATH were much
smaller as it seems to be in dj a single
agent being fired because he or she did their job
as they were supposed to do, and in fact, here

(06:23):
under the direction of the Department of Justice, is just
a complete stake in the heart of what the FBI
and dj are supposed to be about. And it has.
It's not just those who get hurt, as Ryan reported,
and I've spoken to people already within the FBI, people

(06:44):
are alarmed, completely nervous, wondering what to do. So you
have a whole workforce, even if it weren't half the
FBI involved, that is completely sort of frozen and paralyzed.
This is so shortsighted and so damaging for public justice
in general.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
On these people.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
You're not got a free shot.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've
tried to do everything.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
In the world to stop there, but you're not going
to stop it.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 8 (07:29):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Mega media?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 6 (07:43):
If that answer is to save.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
My country, this country will be saved.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
Or use your host, Stephen Kvan.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
It's Friday thirty one, January year Verler, twenty twenty five.
This is why you got to take in four hours
of worm and even then it's not enough. Massively breaking
news across the border. We're about to drop twenty five
percent tariffs on both Canada and Mexico. There is the
Army I think is refusing to release the name of
the pilot of the blackhaw helicopter Jack, but so we're

(08:17):
gonna try to get him by phone. I believe they're
working on a proposal to cut all funding for Ukraine.
Everything stop at full on. So there's about a half
a dozen major things in the works right now. The
biggest though, in kind of a blockbuster of breathtaking, the
Trump administration, through emmil Bovie, one of President Trump's lawyers,

(08:40):
who knows number three in the Justice Department, is going
like a syth through grass at the FBI headquarters Field offices.
All of it related to January sixth investigation. I want
to bring in Julie Kelly by phone because it's breaking
news with tough time tracking her down, but Julie stepped
out of what she's doing to join us. Julie, you

(09:00):
have covered this for I don't know four years. Tell
me your thoughts when you see I mean, this is
actually bigger than we thought. Earlier than we thought, there
was no studies, no commissions, no thinking about it. Basically
went through and said you out, you out, you out.
In MSNBC New York times are in full meltdown, ma'am.

Speaker 9 (09:24):
I mean, this is the sort of thing I would
dream about when I was covering J six court proceedings
and watching some of these FBI agents testify and lie
withhold evidence, make things up on the stand, get away
with it. And of course dating back to some of
my covered on Cross by a Hurricane which I covered

(09:45):
that as well, or seeing what was happening in both
of Trump's the two indictments against President Trump, this is
a dream. It's like a fantasy, and it's hard to
believe that it's actually happening. And yes, have to commend
above the president's attorney who represented him in both a
document case in Florida and Alvin Bragg's case in New York.

(10:08):
He has seen up close and personal corruption of the
DOJ and the FBI, and he is not wasting any time.
None of them are encouraging the SDI.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Not just of.

Speaker 9 (10:22):
Top officials on the southern floor of the building, but
it looks like the purge extends to at least twenty
SBI field offices, including Miami, which of course he participated
in the armed nine hour rate of mar A Lago.
So I have a feeling this is just a start.
But the idea that FBI agents and investigators are panicked

(10:44):
across the country good because that's exactly what you've done
to Americans, especially January sixth defendants for four years, and
now it's time for you to feel the pressure.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
I want to go.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Ken Delanean of an NBC News, he's their Justice department.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
As you know, you've gone to up against him.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
He's kind of a comms director, he's kind of the
spokesmodel for the FBI.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
He tweeted, Well, I think.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Last night several top FBI executives promoted by Director Christopher
Ray were told today to resign or retire and told
they will be demoted or reassigned if they don't leave.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
And then he just updated.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
The purge is bigger than first understood, we are told,
and includes more than twenty heads of FBI field houses,
including ones in Miami, in Washington, DC.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Go back, you followed this for years.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
What's the problem with the FBI in regarding this specific investigation, ma'am?

Speaker 9 (11:45):
So it does involve a hears the reporting says that
it also involves agents who were involved in the January
sixth investigation and prosecution and Steve, this is something that
FBI Director Christopher Ray often bragged about that the j
six investigation was the largest criminal investigation in DOJ history,

(12:06):
and that every single one of the fifty six field
offices across the country were involved in what was considered
a domestic terror investigation and prosecution. So contrary to what
we heard, very much respect Senator Grassley, but the idea
that the rot at the FBI is only contained two

(12:30):
top SBIs headquarters, it's simply not true, because you had
armed agents terrorizing families and communities across this country with
pren armed raids, dragging people out of their homes, using
bullhorns outside of their homes at six am. To take
a stand right and put everyone on notice, this is

(12:53):
what is going to happen if you come up against
this regime and interrogating these people, violating their constitutional rights,
dragging them in some cases over to the DC gulags
where they were held and denied relief. This is what
the FBI has been doing for the for four years.

(13:13):
And of course we know what they've done to President Company,
his associates and his lawyers. So now they're paying the price.
And I hope this is just the beginning of the purge,
but also represent the start of full investigation and holding
these FBI agents and these prosecutors reliable for what he's done.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Julie, can you hang out one second just on holders
Through a short commercial break, Raheem Krassam is going to
join us, hopefully. I think we've tracked down Jack the Sobic.
We've got Philip Patrick from Birch Gold. President Trump's throwing
down on the bricks. Natalie's going to join us top
of the hour from the White House to get response
to all this other inside scoops. We're also going to

(13:59):
talk about the Chinese Communist Party, not just TikTok, not
just what else they're doing in the technology would deep
seek also the building the world's largest Military Headquarters. Don't
know why they're doing that. We want peace and prosperity right,
all of it.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Today in the War.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Room, we'll probably have a lot of other breaking news
on a Friday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
The White House is on fire. Pretty amazing.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
John conn John con who lost his house in Pacific
Palisades is now just ash made this amazing song the
theme for the tea party, American Heart. We're going to
take a short commercial break. We're going to return with
more updates on the purge of the senior leadership with
the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Next in the World America.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
In America.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Bab Okay, we may go to the President's I think
leaving is gonna real. America has always got a camera
on the lawn as the President heads to the it's
a marine one and if he says anything, we're gonna
jump right to it.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Julie Kelly h this major purge. MLBO.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
The President's one of the President's lawyer is number three
in the Justice Department.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
He doesn't need to be confirmed.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
He's over there kind of running the place before before
Pam Bonda.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Is he up.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Let's go let's go ahead. Do we have a audio
or is it just this? Let's do a split screen,
so Julie, there's the president heading out. Julie talk to
me about uh and Posto is going to join us
in a minute. I don't I think we don't have
it in Denver yet. But but Julie Posto, as Jack
Besovic's always succinct him to the point. He's got Nicole

(15:57):
Wallace and that cold open we just showed you the
opening where she gets teared up and talks about how
big this purge is of the FBI, and Jack Kasovic says,
you come for the king, you best not miss.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
That's where we are. Go ahead, ma'am.

Speaker 9 (16:13):
They never saw this coming. I mean they had reports
after Donald Trump one Mark Garland, everyone at DOJ shocked.
People were crying, ASBI agents were preparing their resumes. Prosecutors
were dialing for defense attorneys because they know what they've
done and there will be a voluminous paper trail. We

(16:38):
already saw some of it. Senator Grass, we talked yesterday
about the opening of the investigation into President Trumport January
sixth and allegedly overturning the twenty twenty election. So Cash
is going to have his handful, but he's going to
have a lot of help, and he's going to have
a lot fewer obstacles. And I think that this is

(16:59):
clearing the for us and moving aside the human barrier
that is so entrenched in the FBI, preventing Cash and
his team from accessing all the evidence that they need
to potentially bring criminal targets against some of these agents, investigators,
and prosecutors.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Julie, speaking of Cash, but tell you saw yesterday that
were coming after him, even some of the Republicans. But
the Democrats are off the chain, the boldness of doing
this before he's even had the committee hearing, much less
the vote on the floor. Because I anticipate a firestorm
of the Democrats. I'd be very surprised that they didn't
go with the sticks here in the next half hour

(17:40):
to hour to condemn this.

Speaker 9 (17:42):
Your thoughts, man, They absolutely will, because they're already portraying
this as of course retaliation and retribution. These are career
civil servants. We can't get rid of these people. They
work on national security, they keep our country safe, etc.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Etc.

Speaker 9 (17:59):
No, they're not. They have spent four years the Joint
Terrorism Task Force, which now has also been reconfigured, and
the priority will be actually going after terrorists, not a
sixty year old grandmother from Florida who walked in the capital.
So they are of course going to portray it as revenge,
as retaliation. But again, I really do think this is

(18:21):
a way for Imobov and others at the Department, James mckenry,
who will be Acting Attorney General, to clear the brush,
get rid of these corrupt individuals who are there as
a bulwark against reform and accountability. So at least Cash
when he is confirmed, won't have to take those steps.

(18:42):
They are being taken for him, and then he could
stay focused on what most Americans want, and that is
a major overhaul of the FBI and Department of Justice,
reorganizing its priorities, shutting down offices where necessary, you know, again,
purging it of the people who have completely decimated the

(19:05):
American people's trust in the once most trusted institution in America.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Talk to me about Justice Department overall. Emil is also
at work on these on the US Attorneys and some
of the offices that have been most problematic, and also
at main Justice.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Is he not, ma'am correct.

Speaker 9 (19:31):
So, first of all, Ed Martin, who is a longtime
conservative activist, he was appointed acting DCS attorney. He is
wasting no time. He opened an internal inquiry and I
have a report on my sub stec on this into
charging decisions on that fifteen twelve C two that was
reversed by the Supreme Court in June. Nonetheless used against

(19:53):
three hundred and fifty j sixers. At least one hundred
went to prison for convictions of fifteen twelve see you sorry,
my doctor going crazy. So he launched an internal inquiry
into that, but also email both moving from corrupt prosecutors

(20:13):
at DOJ, moving them to a newly formed unit, the
Sanctuary Cities Enforcement Unit, taking them out of main Justice
where they did political dirty work of the Democrats, moving
them to the Sanctuary Cities Enforcement Unit where they were
going to have to confront local and state officials denying

(20:35):
and violating federal immigration law. At least one person quarry
at Munson I think is how you say his last name?
Who is reassigned to this unit. He quits instead of
actually doing work on enforcing the nation's laws like prosecutors
are supposed to do. See through a little history said

(20:56):
and quit, which is kind of one way to get
rid of them done. Email bou yesterday, as I said,
open this investigation into a Thompson's County sheriff who was
flouting a federal warrant for an illegal immigrant who has
entered this country legally five times, who committed at least
one other crime. So the DOJ is investigating that shariff.

(21:19):
But also he told a conference call yesterday with all
ninety three US attorneys, some who have already been repraised,
but also notifying them that line prosecutors also will be
deployed to the border to enforce immigration law.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Julie Kelly, big day payoff of a lot of work
of yours. Where do people go to get all your substack,
all your writings, social media, all of it?

Speaker 9 (21:46):
Thank you sir. What an amazing two weeks, but what
a tremendous day. All my working be found at my
subject you classified with Julie Kelly and then of course
post a lot of breaking news. I'll be watching this
over the weekend as well, Julie, underscore are having.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Julie, thank you very much, appreciate you. Rahim Zam put
this in perspective. This is just not done, folks. You
gotta understand if one of these had been done in
justice in a term, this.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Was a big deal. None of this got done.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
The opposite got done in the Justice Department in the
first term, and Trump forty five FBI was untouchable. For
people to know how the deep state in the administrative
state work. What has happened this afternoon is nothing short
of shocking, and you're going to see blowback here that's
going to be pretty intense. Raheem Casam, your thoughts and observations.

Speaker 8 (22:39):
Yes, Steve, good afternoon and good afternoon to the war
and Polse. I think, like you say, the unprecedented nature
of this is what's really rocking Washington, DC to its
core this evening. A lot of these people have gone
through their lives thinking themselves as made men right in
a very mafio so sense of the word, and that
is becoming done in front of their eyes. I think

(23:02):
there is an element of this to consider as well,
that this is the first step. If you go in
this hard, you're not actually what you're showing is that
you're going to clear house entirely. Because these are some
of the most senior people we're talking about it's some
of the people who are in charge of the persecution
against President Trump over the last four years. And these

(23:22):
are people who fundamentally thought that they would be shielded, masked,
kept even anonymous from the world's perspective, in the world's scrutiny,
because they really didn't think that President Trump would win
a second term. They thought they had all the tricks
and tips in their book in order to keep him
out for another time. And now the chickens are coming

(23:44):
home to roost. I think, you know again, I've said
this pretty much every day since the beginning of this administration,
is that they are going further and faster than anybody
had possibly imagined. I would include myself in that perhaps
in my you know, my greatest dreams in the world,
we'd end up in this situation. But you end up,

(24:04):
you know, you do end up in your mind compromising.
You do end up thinking, Okay, there are going to
be things they can do and can't do. But this
really goes to show that the next eighteen twenty four
months for the globalists, for the far left, for the
entrenched political class in Washington, DC, is going to be
a meltdown the likes of which we have never seen
all the fun that was had in twenty sixteen, all

(24:27):
the screaming video memes, all of the mashups of Madou,
all of that will look like nothing in comparison to
what's coming.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Let's talk about Trump and making those decisions.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
I mean, even the people are and they always talk
about caution, This is bold, and this is sending a signal,
as you said, that the purge here is going to
go much deeper. If this is day one and Cash
is not even at a committee.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
This is why I love about this.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
This is a throwdown, and this is Trump sending a
signal to Capitol Hill.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
I'm in charge. This is the executive branch. I'm in charge.
Your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
Yeah, now, I do think it's also related to what
we saw yesterday, especially in that committee, which was Cash
Pttel absolutely spanking them over and over again. I mean,
even with kind of pithy one word reposts. In the moment,
I was glued to my television because you know, people
don't usually go to those committee hearings being just so

(25:32):
open and so honest and so upfront about who they
are and what they've done in their life.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
You know, everybody likes is kind.

Speaker 8 (25:37):
Of like, you know, a little narrative about me and
I'm going to take you over here and I to
take you over there. But Cash was just very upfront,
and he was upfront on the questions of you know,
the last election as well. He refused to bow to
their attempted struggle session up there. And I think what
this is today, what you've seen is President Trump going, hey,
you know what you saw yesterday was an appetizer. Here's

(26:00):
your main course. I can't wait for dessert.

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Speaker 5 (26:49):
Thank you, brother, talk to you f the show. Raheem
Gassam on watch short break, Philip Patrick and hopefully Jack Pisowa.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K Bath.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Jack Posobic. We're trying to get Jack Pasobic up and
we're trying to track him down. We'll get hit to
a moment. This is all breaking news. Natalie Winners is
at the White House and Natalie has just sent me
another blockbuster piece of news. I'm gonna read it to you.
Is it coming across the wire? The I can't get
rid of anyway. They've just announced they fired President Trump

(27:33):
has terminated all the J six prosecutors from the US
Attorney's Office in d C.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
I mean, this is a massive piece of news.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
They've just they've just fired all J six federal prosecutors
in Washington, DC's US Attorney's office. She's gonna be with
us at at six o'clock, plus so much other stuff
going on. Let me go to We're gonna get Posto
up in a second. A big kind of resistance of
the US Army about the pilot. Also more on on

(28:05):
J six and on particularly the Federal Buer of Investigation.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Major purge today at the FBI.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
The mainstream media is in full and total and complete
meltdown on this expect I think you're going to see
a press conference by the Democrats before too long.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
The boldness of this.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
I think President Trump saw the way Cashers treated yesterday
at the at the hearing, and Cash is pushback, and
he I think he put across the shot across the
battle of the committee a little bit. Hey, I dare you
not to vote for Cash. I mean this is bold.
Like I said, in the way Washington works, you remove
one field office, got's huge, or one of these senior prosecutors,

(28:45):
and the just apartment huge takes forever huge. This is
I mean massive and impressive. And there's more of this succomb.
But if they didn't think he was going to deconstruct
the administrative state and take down the deep state, I
think Donald John Trump, before he ends the second week
of the of his second term, is sent a signal

(29:06):
to the Imperial capital.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
He is not.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
Messing around, as he says, he's so fun to say,
we're not playing games.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
There no games. A couple of the things.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
There are no games that Philip Patrick has joins Philip
Birch gold dot com slash bandit. You have to read
the Get to the UH, the End of the Dollar Empire,
and you have to read modern monetary theory, the idea
that broke the world. Philip, We've got special announced. We're
going to talk about what we've done there because so

(29:35):
important tomorrow morning or tonight at midnight, Philip, unless there's
a bump, and I heard they may there may be
some bump to March as. There are some negotiations going on,
some intense negotiations, but he intends to put twenty five
percent tariffs on Mexico and twenty five percent tariffs on Canada.

(29:57):
You're I mean, this is a new economic model. We're saying, Hey,
where the golden market? If you're going to you know,
I'm not putting a tariff on a tomato or an avocado.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
I'm gonna do it across the board because.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
You're going to have to pay a premium price to
get access to this market. Your thoughts on this to
kind of new economic model of President Trump driven by duties,
fees and tariffs, sir.

Speaker 10 (30:21):
Listen, I think enforcing tariffs, creating new tariff is.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
Going to be very important. Right. We have to balance.

Speaker 10 (30:26):
Trade deficits, We have to ensure equitable contributions from foreign
entities that are benefiting from US economic or military support,
and basically use tariffs to ensure a mechanism for fair trade.
But we have to understand, and I know you do well,
the scale of the problem.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
Right, So let's look at best case.

Speaker 10 (30:48):
Scenario with tariffs, assuming no changes in imports, ten percent
global tariff on everything, twenty five percent tariff on Canadian
and Mexican goods. That generates about five hundred twenty billion
dollars a year. Now let's add a sixty percent tariff
on everything coming in from China. That's another three hundred
billion dollars a year, so a total of eight hundred

(31:10):
and twenty billion dollars. Now that's a huge amount of money,
and we'd do something in sort of closing the deficit.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
But you know, we also have to factor in that
there is a downside to tariffs.

Speaker 10 (31:22):
First of all, as we know, they raised consumer prices, right,
that's no way around that. But the bigger problem I
think with tariffs is regarding revenue generation, right, is that
they lead to retaliation. Since World War two. The global
economy has become very intertwined. So look at some of
the tariffs that Trump put on Tryina back in twenty sixteen. Right,

(31:43):
they led to retaliation that affected the American farming industry,
and essentially, for every dollar we generated in revenue, we
ended up giving back.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Ninety cents in terms of subsidies.

Speaker 10 (31:54):
So as a revenue generator, they're not that big. What
they are very effective that is boosting domestic manufacturing that
really affected the Trump The taff that Trump put on
China back in twenty sixteen led to a huge increase
in factory construction here in the United States, up about

(32:14):
two hundred and fifty percent. The problem being that's a
long term plan, right that that took seven to ten years.
So I'm getting a little bit concerned that we're not
going to be capable of collecting enough revenue without severe
consequences for consumer prices or for global trade. And it

(32:35):
all boils down to the ability to maintain deficit spending.
So listen, it's encouraging and it's a reflection of the
position we're in. They'll generate some revenue, but they're not
going to plug that gap, and that's what we need
to do right now?

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Hey, Philip Birtugold dot com slash bennon end of the
dollar empire? Also, how do you invest in gold in
precious smells in the age of Trump and the Trump
a second term? Philip, Hang on one second, because I
got posted by phone. He's got to bounce Jack purge
of the FBI purge going on on the j six
prosecutors in the DC Office, all of them are terminated

(33:12):
as of today.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Your thoughts, sir, well Steve.

Speaker 11 (33:17):
The only thing that comes to mind first is you
come at the king. You best not miss. Look, this
is something that President Trump promised that he would do
at every single step of the way on this campaign,
every single campaign stop he did, every single interview he did.
He said that he will end the lawfair. And ending

(33:39):
the lawfair does not necessarily just mean that you're going
to post strongly worded letters or trying to reform things
or trying to pass a new policy. It means personnel.
Personnel is policy, and so the politication ends by getting
rid of the politicized in the first place. It's as

(34:02):
simple as that. And anyone who touched these cases or
participated in this is going to be completely tainted by it,
and has already been completely tainted. So what he's doing
is he's removing the problem to restore the confidence of
the FBI in the American people because of this process,

(34:23):
which was completely voted for by the American voter, this
process of reforming these institutions, which is the change agenda
that President Trump promised the American people. It must be
done because this was the will of the people. Everyone
remembers that it was the raid on mar A Lago

(34:43):
that completely changed the trajectory of the race. It was
the lawfare that changed the trajectory of the race. He
was way ahead even before the assassination attempts. And it
was that very persecution of Donald Trump, the man that
led to the assassination attempt in the first place, and
the second one, by the way, in September. This is

(35:05):
what the American people voted for, and it's something very simple.
It's called the iron law of reciprocity. I writte an
entire book about this last year, that which was done
to us must be done back in order to restore
the balance that is the basic underpinning of a functioning
society and a functioning civilization. That you must restore balance.

(35:29):
One tier of justice, not two tiers, not three tiers,
one tier. And if people have been called going beyond,
then then they need to face the consequences. They will
not be stopped until they're stopped.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Talk to me about you and I were all over
these things yesterday. The confirmation is talk to me because
Cash has talked about this.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
They let him up yesterday. He's talking about it for
four years.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
He's one of the leaders of this movement, particularly the
leader on this on the deep state side.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
The government Gang is the film.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
You can go to wornfilms dot com right now and
check it out, download it and watch it and you'll
see Cash in action. Tell me about the boldness of
Trump doing this this afternoon. When Cash kind of got
lit up yesterday, he fought back hard, but they were
lighting him up. And they haven't voted. The committee itself
hasn't voted. Forget going to the floor, I mean sumering.

(36:22):
These guys right now got to be in full absolute meltdown.

Speaker 11 (36:25):
Jeck Pisovic, Well, Steve, that's exactly what's happening. Look, those guys,
they take all of their marching orders from MSNBC and
the brain Trust that you see across there, So Kendalani,
and that was the first shot last night that we
knew that something was going to be coming. But obviously
what happened now is bigger than I think even any
of them anticipated. And so yes, the Democrats are going

(36:49):
to be in free for all. The Democrats are going
to be having wall to wall meltdowns, absolute soy eruptions
going off across, by the way, not just the Democrats
in the Congress, the Democrats in the Senate, but the
same Democrats and the same liberals that have been pointed
to in place all across the FBI and all across

(37:12):
those officials. Look, Miranda Devine had the story an entire
year ago in the New York Post about the type
of people that Chris Ray was recruiting, the type of
people that he was appointing. And it's just an absolute
rogues gallery of the wokest of the woke liberals, anti Trump,
anti Maga, anti conservative, and in many cases even yes,

(37:33):
anti Catholic, as we saw in communities that are not
far from where my Catholic family attends and worships at
Mass every single Sunday. And so when we see this
President Trump is taking decisive action even when I'm sure.
I'm sure by the way, those who are a bit
more fair hearted would not be willing to go forward

(37:57):
and do what needs to be done. They would say,
hold on, mister President, and they'd say, wait, let's get
all our ducks in a row, and you know what
would happen. Steve, just like the President said about these
reports that they wait years and years to happen, they
want to try to slow walk in. There's been this
push and Steve, you and I talked about it a
couple of weeks ago. They've been trying to go for
MAGA light. You know, we're going to have MAGA light.

(38:17):
We're going to do some of these things. We're going
to secure the border, but that's it. We're going to
secure the border and there's going to be money for
AI and we're not going to do any of those
other things. Well, you know something, President Trump just told
the entire world that it's not going to be MAGA light.
It is going to be full Maga, the full force
of the American people. Every single promise that was made

(38:37):
on the campaign trail must be kept because that is
the sacred oath that he took when he stood up
for the vote on November fifth. That's what this is about.
And no, he's not going to stand around waiting for
the FBI. Look what they did to him in the
first administration, not even during the campaign, go buck all
the way to the first administration, all of their work,
Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and I saw you're on his

(39:00):
show the other day, Michael Flynn lying to him in
the confines of the White House itself within the first
days of the administration. Nope, President Trump is doing absolutely
what he needs to do, and he's doing it absolutely
when he needed to do it.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
I know.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
You get to bounce one last thing though, the Army
will not release the name of the helicopter pilot. When
did the Army have the option not doing that, Sir Steve.

Speaker 11 (39:24):
I'm perplexed on this, and even the New York Times
called it unprecedented. This is an extraordinary step. This is
something that Look, this is a soldier who died in
the line of duty. I'm not familiar with soldiers who
die in the line of duty not having their names
released to the American people. And furthermore, this is someone
who was involved in a major incident that led to

(39:44):
an extreme loss of life, and we're trying children were
killed here. Children were killed in this incident, okay, stars
In some cases entire families were wiped out, and so
there's a huge community of people that is trying to
figure out what happened, and they do deserve answers. Now,
I can understand making sure that the family gets informed first,
and I can under I can understand that, but there's

(40:07):
a responsibility. Look, this is the most transparent administration and
so if the Army's having issues with that, hopefully those
can be resolved because this is something where everyone in
the country needs to meet and deserves to know exactly
what happened that Paple.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
Day Jack for SBIK Twitter. Where do people go on
social media to get you.

Speaker 11 (40:29):
Look, we'll be up on x all all night as
more news of this continues. Of course, Human events daily.
You get the podcast, you miss anything, you catch it
right there.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
We're gonna be It's gonna be, folks, it's gonna be
flooded with newsnight.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Get all over our social media. All of us will
be up.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
This is going to be an intense night in the
Imperial Capital. And I think throughout the rest of the
world as President Trump is going to be dropping some bombs. Jack,
thank you, talk about all the promises. Tariffs are coming,
a new economic model, Philip Patrick.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
Next, use your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Bab Okay, Philip Patrick, Birch Cole. We said times of turbulence.
These are twenty five percent tariffs. And this is not
some marginal folks. This is not some marginal country that
we don't really have a trading relationship with, like even
something like Great Britain. We don't import a lot, right,
this is this is Mexico and Canada. Only China's bigger.

(41:27):
So twenty five percent tariffs. And look, I'm hearing it
might be moved thirty days to March, maybe to some negotiations,
but right now, the stroke of midnight, Philip Patrick, twenty
five percent, and this is a new economic model. He
doesn't look at tariffs's tariffs. He looks at him as
external revenue. You've made the point about it's for something else,

(41:48):
is to bring manufacturing back. But it's a new economic
model and he's implementing it. He's pulling the trigger. This
is why saying times a turbulence, you need to people
need to look at the alternative prescious.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Metals just do.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
You're gonna need a hedge, and you should assume there's
ten other actions that are happening tonight that hopefully are
going to get to in the next hour. But President Trump,
these are days of thunder. He's dropping bomb after bomb
after bomb after bomb.

Speaker 10 (42:16):
Sir, he is you said in the break, He's a
savage and it's exactly what we need. Okay, we've been
dealing with the opposite of that for the last four years.
But listen, tariffs are going to have ripple effects throughout
the economy. If I'm a Canadian or a Mexican at
the moment, I'm worried. Right, it could send both Canada
and Mexico into depression. And they are two of our

(42:38):
three biggest trading partners, as you mentioned a moment ago.
Part of it lies on them, right, they're not diversified economically.

Speaker 7 (42:46):
They made a mistake.

Speaker 10 (42:47):
I think of creating deep ties with a single trading partner.
When our needs change, what are we supposed to do?
Take care of them or take care of ourselves? And
that's what we're doing. It's protectionism and it's what we
need to do. Now there's going to be huge ripple
effects throughout the global economy. I can't even begin to
imagine what's going to change. That's one major reason I

(43:09):
think right now there is unprecedented demand for gold and silver,
but even those markets are getting affected. Leasing costs are
going crazy on the back of tariff fears.

Speaker 7 (43:20):
There's concerns.

Speaker 10 (43:21):
Now you know half of our silver comes from Mexico.
We could see that alone driving prices up. So we're
seeing volatility. But it's time we started looking after ourselves.
And I think we need a new economic model. So
we'll see how it shapes out. We'll see how much
revenue can we can generate. But we need new ideas,

(43:41):
and now we have them.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
So three or four years ago, when we first started
birsch Gold, Philip and I talked through He said, look,
we want to we want to teach the audience or
given access to people that haven't had a chance to
maybe to go to college and specialize in economics and
get a postgraduate degree NBA or degree in finance or
somebody's in finance. We want to teach them global capital
markets and global conomics, so therefore they understand power better.

(44:09):
In the end of the dollar empire, I think the
second or third free installment was about the bricks. And
when I'm so proud of this audience. Our audience knows
so much about the bricks, and you talk to other people,
it's like, what's a brick?

Speaker 4 (44:22):
President Trump knows what it is.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
He put out a true social last night, folks, and
I put it up on Ghetter.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
It is brutal.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
And if we've talked about this for three years and
have trained you guys up, it's about the end of
the dollar empire and get into an alternative bricks with
some sort of goal back. President Trump said, yo, I
know some bricks nations are because he's dealing with them
all the time. He said, Yo, if you even think
about getting off the dollar system, if you think even

(44:48):
creating a new currency, one hundred percent tariffs on all
your goods, Philip Patrick, that is a shot across the bow,
is it not, sir, so shorty.

Speaker 7 (44:59):
Crawl and I'm glad that we're getting that rhetoric.

Speaker 10 (45:03):
The previous administration referred to the bricks d dollarizing as
a natural desire to diversify. They didn't understand the level
of the problem. President Trump does, right. He understands that
the bricks are major exporters, movers, and shakers in global trade.
Any move away from the dollar essentially just reduces American

(45:25):
global influence and financial dominance.

Speaker 7 (45:28):
So over the last two.

Speaker 10 (45:29):
Years, as we know, Bricks membership have already begun the
process of sort of weaning themselves off a dollar, signing
bilateral trade deals that bypassed a dollar is an intermediary currency.

Speaker 7 (45:41):
And this is where I'm getting a little bit concerned.

Speaker 10 (45:44):
Look, President Trump has to do something right, But where
I'm getting a little bit concerned is one third one
in every three of our US dollars that the government
borrows comes from foreign nations. Right, even after selling our
billions of dollars, China is still our number two creditor. Right,
what's becoming clear is that we need more foreign creditors.

(46:07):
And that's where I wonder the effectiveness of the threats,
right when trade wars heat up. In my mind, why
would a nation that we're punishing with twenty five, sixty
percent or one hundred percent tariffs keep lending US money?

Speaker 7 (46:22):
Right?

Speaker 10 (46:23):
The concern here is that threats simply reinforce the perception
that the dollar is a yoke, and nations may be
better off not wearing it. The second side of it,
and this is where I think President Trump's really restricted.
Biden's dollar weaponization has already caused major moves. Right, Russia
went through a severe recession and they've come out the

(46:46):
other side. Why are they going to undo all of
that hard work bilateral trade deals, treaties building a non
dollar based global trade network when they know that Trump's
only going to be an office for four years. Listen,
It's taken Russia nine years to decouple from the dollar,
essentially since the annexation of Crimea. They really don't have

(47:07):
an incentive to go back.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Right.

Speaker 7 (47:11):
In my mind, threats won't do it right.

Speaker 10 (47:14):
The only thing that will is making the dollar a
better choice for trade, and that we're going to have
to do by addressing deficits and getting our debt under control.
So listen, it's a starting point. The administration know how
serious an issue it is, but I think the tools
we have at this point are limited.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Where do they go.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
I'm gonna talk tomorrow about this new offer were doing
on the on the end of the dollar empire, But
people want to talk to you. I can tell in
the chats they're they're lit up. Where do they go
to talk to Philip Patrick and the team about gold
is a hedge in times of turbulence?

Speaker 7 (47:48):
Sir, it's really simple.

Speaker 10 (47:50):
Birchgold dot com forward slash Bannon again, Birch goold dot
com forward slash Bannon or Bannon to nine eight nine
eight ninety eight. That will get them access to all
of the free information we put out end of the
Dollar Empire and a very good report on how and
why to buy gold under a Trump administration. So but

(48:11):
that's Goold dot com forward slash Bannon. Just get the information.
It's fantastic stuff.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Go to Birch Gold, look for Philipatrick and the team.
Birch Golds dot com slash bannon. What I'm proud us
about tonight. It's going to light up some tarifs and
a new economic model. He's talking about bricks and warning
them about the end of the dollar empire. You the
audience have had three or four years now to understand

(48:40):
this and join it because of our partnership with Birch Gold.
Philip Patrick, thank you so much, brother, Proud of us,
proud of you. Amazing The right stuff takes us out.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Because that's what we have here in the worldrood

Speaker 5 (48:54):
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