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February 3, 2025 48 mins

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, 2-3-25

MIKE BENZ

JULIE KELLY

NATALIE WINTERS

MIKE LINDELL

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Security guard.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I talked to the security guard just in there. He
said he has been given specific orders to prevent employees
of USAID from entering the building through them. And I
just find that to be absolutely ridiculous. You know, this
is no way to govern, this is no way to
treat public service, and this is no way for US
to conduct our foreign policy as a country. So I

(00:22):
used to have to show up today see it with
my own eyes, you know, the chaos of this administration
and just their attacks upon public servants in our country.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Does the White House know what USAID does?

Speaker 4 (00:34):
I think that there's a lot of questions in Katie.
I think that, frankly, the Prince of the United States
has not answered about his understanding of what this forty
billion dollar operation that effectively works with you know, more
than one hundred different organizations and more than sixty different
missions globally to work as a conduit for congressionally appropriated
funds for humanitarian assistance and local development projects. And what

(01:00):
Donald Trump in the Oval Office just a short time
ago acknowledged to the Press Corps was that, in fact,
he is okay with the way that Elon Musk has
gone about effectively crippling the backbone of US humanitarian assistance
or organization. And not only that, but also Elon Musk's
efforts within the Treasury Department to gain access through employees

(01:23):
of payment disbursement files.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
But then also when you're looking.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
At Elon Musk and in that space as conversation he
had in after midnight last night, Katie, it is a
suggestion that they are willing to freeze billions of dollars
and foreign assistance, but also potentially other payments. And what
we heard from the President was no suggestion that he
has any interest in putting a stop to the efforts

(01:49):
of Elon Musk. We heard from some of those Democratic
lawmakers on the literal frontline of the government offices there
at USAID headquarters, which was shut down today in first
who have not been fired or fur load we're told
not to come to that office.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
And what you heard from some of those.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Democratic wobmakers was the argument that Elon Musk, the billionaire,
has effectively been allowed to access not only personnel files
but also cut off congressionally approved funds through these major
governmental agencies.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Here's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people. The people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you've tried to do everything in the world to
stop there, but you're not going to stop it. It's
going to happen. And where do people like that go
to share the big line?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Mega media?

Speaker 6 (02:48):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be safe.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
Bab It's Monday, three February. Year of a Lord, twenty
twenty five. We've got so much to go through as
the deconstruction of the administrative state, in the destruction of
the deep state continues unabated in Days of Thunder. Michael
Ben's joints is Michael, We're gonna start with USAID because

(03:32):
remember Eli Crane, just send me the video from a
year ago Murby did those all night appropriations fights. Eli
Crane and Matt Gates. Remind me that they tried to
defund USAID and they got less than fifty percent of
the House votes, less than fifty percent of the House votes.
This is how feckless House Republicans are. Michael Ben's Mike

(03:54):
Bens is USAA D. It just funds one hundred and
sixty humanitarian institutions to do humanitarian and development projects for
the good people with the United States or America.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Is that its task and purpose?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Sir, No, it's not even allowed to do that. It's
a US foreign policy vehicle. You have to understand.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
Everything USAID does by charter is dual use. Under the
cover of humanitarian work, they so called advance US national
interests by accomplishing some goal in the region. Now, they
don't actually accomplish US national interest in the region. What
they do is they accomplish the commercial or political goals

(04:37):
of a very small secular elite within the United States
and their international partners. So, for example, you know, I've
published about hundreds of different USAID scandals from you know
them claiming to run AIDS prevention clinics in Cuba and
in all over South America. And it turns out that

(04:59):
the the AIDS prevention clinics were actually covers for undercover
agents to sew anti government descent and to try to
organize a revolution in the country. You had the case
of Zunzanio, where USAID took humanitarian funds earmarked for Pakistan

(05:20):
and created a fake knockoff Twitter social media site, where
USAID documents explicitly stated in their own internal documents that
the plan was to get one hundred thousand people in
the country to join up to the social media service,
luring them in with news feeds predominated by sports news
and hurricane updates, and then at the appropriate moment, once

(05:43):
enough people were onboarded to hit them with messages to
overthrow their government and take to the streets in smart mobs.
You see this time and time again. If you will
see all over the news and all over at these
USAID HQ protest today, and all over x from the
intelligence community and military and statecraft blob folks, you will

(06:05):
see them say, but USAID is funding irrigation canals and famine.
If they are doing irrigation canal work, it is because
they are trying to control the river.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Systems in the country.

Speaker 7 (06:17):
In Ethiopia, or for example, when they were irrigating the
fields in Afghanistan, well, guess what they were doing there.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
They were growing the heroin supply.

Speaker 7 (06:28):
As their companion, the US Institute for Peace was lobbying
the Taliban to keep the heroin supplies flowing because it
would it would be bad for Afghanistan and the world
if they shut down the poppy crops. USAID was funding,
you know, the irrigation of the of those crops in

(06:51):
order to keep the supply of heroin flowing.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
You see this time and time again.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
If they are doing famine relief projects, is to control
the food supply and therefore control the population and supplement
that with sanctions, work to make people angry against their
government or dependent on the US to dole out that food.
Then you know, and take for example, the job fairs.
I just posted this just yesterday, and I've talked about

(07:18):
this many times in the past three years. Mark Milly
and Joe Biden in twenty twenty one, in their Special
Forces Perspectives game planned how USAID could do job fairs
in poor countries in order to get people to take
to the streets and riot and go on strike from
their jobs, and so that it would help US military

(07:39):
operations by having USA give free no show jobs to
Africans striking in race riots in Africa in order to
basically you know, so it's a humanitarian job. Fair, But no,
it's actually not. It's actually serving the dual purpose of
rent to riots being organized by USAID. The USAID is

(08:01):
just is just a mutant baby of the CIA and
the State Department with a little top up support to
the US military. And I could go on and on
about this, but there's a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Of moving pieces to this story.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
But I want to I want to make sure it's
a cutout for the CIA. Whatever the CIA wants to
do with cover from the State Department, this is what
they're doing. It's these types of projects, right, Yes, that's
why you.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
See this money laundering operation out of there. They have
a bigger budget than the CIA. The entire intelligence community
combined is a seventy two billion dollar budget. And so
the thing is is you park operations out. I'll give
you a great quote, for example, when USA got busted
running regime change work in South America by arguing that

(08:51):
by using AIDS prevention HIV prevention clinics, the USAID internal
document said that those HIV prevention clinics would be quote
the perfect cover because counterintelligence. Those countries would never look
at an age prevention clinic, HIV prevention clinics as a
warehousing shop for intelligence organizing activity. So what happened is

(09:16):
is when the CIA got in trouble in the nineteen
sixties and seventies, they needed an ever deeper layer of
plausible deniability for the dirty work. The CIA was only
created because the State Department wanted to do the dirty
work but couldn't afford to get caught with US government
fingerprints on it. So they created a spy agency that
did work, claiming not to represent the US government to

(09:37):
do it. And then CIA started getting in trouble, and
so US AIDS started taking over their business. And they
do that in tandem with this group, the National Dama
for Democracy. They are you know, kissing cousins. They always
move together in all things. But this is a this
is a huge, huge, huge, massive fundamental restructuring of the

(09:58):
American Empire that were watching play out before our eyes.
But there are many ways that just like with Brexit,
where there was this big, you know, big referendum, a
huge victory that Nigel Farage scored in June twenty sixteen,
but they ultimately ended up steyning the purpose of Brexit
in many respects through the long marathon of layers of

(10:19):
fights in implementing it afterwards, and assuming that we are
able action to shut down USAID, which is powerful symbolically
on its own in sense of a very powerful message,
but in terms of how it would change things on
the ground, that remains to be seen. Because this because
the plan right now is to merge it into the
State Department.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, guess what.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
That just gives the State Department a USAID herpes infection
unless the actual underlying operations are cut.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
Why is it bad? Why is it bad? Have your
central intelligence that you're a hedgem on. You're trying to
keep the post war international rules based order going. You're
trying to limit battlefield battlefield casualty. So the best way
to do it is make sure that everybody's on the
take throughout the ward.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Everyone's good little piece of the action, Brother Bens.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
Why is it a bad thing to have something like
the USA The sounds on the surface of it. You
just saw the big crocodile tears of crying on MSNBC.
It's for humanitarian projects, it's for development projects. Is to
help bring water to the village, and that's a pretty
good cover.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Why is USA? Why do why do we rip.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
The mask off and say it's a CIA, And what
is the advantage to the American people you mentioned that
gave the money to the same.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Sort of folks about the world. Who are those folks?
And why is it.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
Advantage to the populis nationalist movement in the in the
American workingman and woman to basically rip the mask off,
face what it is and then shut it down.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
Sir, well, this is a very, very complicated question, and
I really hope that Trump world foreign policy folks understand
the open heart surgery they are conducting on the way
our foreign policy operates around the world, and in terms
of why it's a bad thing that USA does what
it does.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
This is one of these questions.

Speaker 7 (12:08):
That you know, I've known and followed this this stuff
for many years, but I never made a crusade about
taking it on until USA.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Had gotten the business of censoring the Internet.

Speaker 7 (12:18):
And at that point, in censoring Americans on the American
Internet and censoring American social media companies as a foreign
facing humanitarian NGO sponsor, you know that everyone knows it's
just it's just the ci is plausible and liability layer
and funding conduit.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
But when it started to be used against.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
Americans on American soil, that to me was the final
straw that, no matter how useful it may be, to
spend forty billion dollars a year bribing warlords in Africa,
bribing oligarchs in Ukraine, bribing and recruiting terrorists in Afghanistan
and Pakistan and Syria, you know, disguising medical supply vans

(13:02):
in Venezuela with boxes of AK forty sevens and military supplies.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
The fact is is it.

Speaker 7 (13:08):
Is no longer a foreign policy instrument, is a domestic
control instrument, and that is the final straw.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
You can't do that to Americans.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Do you have any evidence in your all your research,
because you're like the acts in the space that has
actually been used against Americans, not just for doing warlords
something like that, but actually against Americans.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh my god.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yes, the USAID in twenty twenty one they made a
formal policy pivot to stopping disinformation on the Internet, and
they targeted US technology companies. They targeted They targeted Facebook,
they targeted Twitter one point zero, they targeted YouTube, they
targeted all of the online information space. They were working

(13:53):
with NewsGuard and Global Disinformation Index, and they were a
partner with the State Department's Democracy Rights.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
And Labor UH.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
They have a which which is which works with us
AIDS group called the Democracy Rights and Democracy, Human Rights
and Rule of I'm sorry, Democracy Governance and Rights.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Bureau.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
And and what they what they did is under the
banner of democracy promotion. See, this is the thing there's
supposed to be a democracy promotion organization. It's one of
the reasons that they are accountable to the House Foreign
Affairs Committee and Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
They said that that.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Information and I know you get a bounce, but I
just I just want to hold you to a short
break in for a minute or two afterwards. I just
want to make sure when we leave this today, people
understand that you've made the case of why this place
is dangerous and that's some humanitarian thing giving out money
to like the nuns UH to do to save the
orphans in Sub Saharan Africa. Short commercial breakback with Mike

(14:51):
bens in.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
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Speaker 1 (14:57):
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Speaker 5 (15:06):
Okay, Welcome back today.

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Mike Ben's has been on this idea about a government,
an administrative state in deep state that's been out of control.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Ben's has been on this for years.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
So Ben's when they actually start to allocate money to
domestic programs, into all the misinformation, shutting down free speech
on the internet, against war room, you everybody, that money
is allocated. We had this audience sat through the appropriations,
the individual bills, appropriations and Eli Crane and Matt Gates

(16:32):
making this case.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
I think back in.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
The summer of twenty twenty four twenty four, for two
different authorizations bills that time, less than fifty percent of
the Republican backed them. These things didn't pass inn these subcommittees.
Was anybody overseeing this? Did people on Capitol Hill know
that they had started to use this to target American citizens?

Speaker 7 (16:54):
Sir, well, let me let me clarify that, because there's
a distinction here, which is that USA does work that
has dramatic impact on our domestic politics and domestic American
to American affairs, but they funnel it through international organizations
that operate on US soil rather than rather than for

(17:14):
the most part, directly with US organizations, although they do,
for example, the USAID partner with the American Bar Association,
you know, in these type of things. But for example,
the USA gave twenty seven million dollars to the fiscal
sponsor of the Soros prosecutor control group that you know,
everyone here you talk about Soros prosecutors and Soros you

(17:34):
know source funds these prosecutors and then Soros funded NGOs
in particularly this main one called Fair and Just Prosecutions,
this group that tells Soros prosecutors what to do. Well,
that group got more from USA than it did from
George Soros. They got twenty fiscal sponsor did twenty seven
million dollars to the Tide Center, which also played a

(17:56):
major role in fomenting Black Lives Matters, is one of
the main parent parent groups to the Black Lives Matter groups.
You have to understand, USAID is at the dead center.
It occupies the center space between the State Department.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
The Pentagon, and the CIA.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
It's a switch player that serves as a plausibly deniable
assistance agency to the rogue activities of those three federal agencies.
And it represents essentially the some consensus of the foreign
policy establishment, the legacy foreign policy establishment that hated Trump
with the passion, wanted to take him down because of

(18:33):
his foreign policy views and because of his economic nationalism
here at home. And what USA declared doctrinally is that
populism is an attack on democracy. They say this openly
in USAD meetings, they say this openly in USA documents.
I published this a year and a half ago. The
USAID Disinformation Primer published the first month of Biden's term

(18:57):
in office, saying that the purpose of their disinformation program
RAMS was to eliminate populist subject matter expertise on the
Internet because populist news sites undermine USAID programming by undermining
public faith and confidence in democratic institutions. Because don't you know,

(19:17):
USAID spends billions of dollars to control the media every year.
All the major media outlets in Ukraine are funded by USAID,
like the Kiev Independent, all the major news outlets in
Western Hemisphere, or in many parts of Africa and Central Asia.
It does what the CIA used to do. Everyone remembers

(19:38):
Operation Mockingbird book. Guess what that's just called USAID Media
sustainability and media assistance.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Okay, that's all that is.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
And when populist waves swept the world within the US
in twenty sixteen with Trump, and with what happened all
over Europe with Marine Lapenn and Matteo Salvini and Nigel Faraj,
USAID declined aired censorship holy war against every single populist group,
including Bolsonaro. Steve, I'm telling you right now, if USA

(20:08):
did not exist, Bolsonaro would still be the president of
Brazil and Brazil would still have a free and open internet.
It was USA that spent tens of millions of dollars
of American tax payer money funding the push to get
anti misinformation bills passed in the parliament there, funding the
legal advocates who pushed the censorship court there the TSE

(20:31):
to crack down on Bolsonaro tweets and WhatsApp and telegram messages.
They built a censorship octopus in Brazil, and it was
built entirely on usaid because USA declared Bolsonaro a populist
Trump of the Tropics and then set up this operation
to control the information ecosystem there. One of the USA

(20:52):
grantees even said on a public call that the purpose
was to eliminate the international exchange of ideas between the
Trump movement and the Bolscenaro movement.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
That's what USA does.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
They kill domestic populism because it gets in the way
of their foreign policy goals.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
This is nothing short of breathtaking. Before I leave it,
and that is going to be at the White House,
this movement. They're up in arms from Capitol Hill, all
the leftist everybody saying Trump doesn't have the authority to
do this. He certainly doesn't have the authority to deputize
Elon Musk and the DOGE guys to do this.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
This is statutory. It has to be taken down.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Do you agree that in the appropriations built we have
to zero it or you think what Trump and Elon
right now the guys who are DOGE is fine, that's
enough work.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
They're going to take it to zero.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Everybody's locked out of the building, they're having protest all over.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Is that enough.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
It's going to be very, very complicated. You know.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
I said somewhat tongue in cheek earlier today that one
of the upshots of this reorganization is that Marco Rubio
is now arguably going to be the most powerful Secretary
of State in American history, because if USAID shuts down
and moves over to to be directly under the State Department,
now Marco Rubio will simultaneously be the head of the

(22:10):
State Department and USAID simply occupied simply you know, adding
beefing up state with with USAID which is why the
dog fight, the trench warfare is going to come down
to whether or not USAID's core mission will continue under
the State Department, which is going to be its own fight.
You know, it may be the case that that you

(22:32):
know that the real fight that we have is not
necessarily the moment of closing of USAID's building. But just
like with Brexit, the real fight comes with the implementation
of the cuts and the and the organizational changes, you know,
once the USA building is closed, because it could be
you know, it could even be worse than ever if

(22:53):
if this is parked under State and you have, you know,
a Hillary Clinton style Secretary of State who now has
a sort of godlike power over both State and USA simultaneously.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
No, we have to shut this down, There's no doubt
about it. But it's going to be a process. I
want everybody in the audience understand that this is far
from over. But man, what a great start seeing those
guys locked out, those men and women.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Ben's You're the best.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
Where do people go on to your social media to
get you in all this amazing?

Speaker 5 (23:18):
And you got to get to Ben's social.

Speaker 6 (23:20):
Media because it's constantly updating, it's information.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I posted about one hundred times a day.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
Follow me at Mike ben Cyber on x and also
my foundation, Foundation for Freedom Online dot com has blockbuster.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Reports on all this.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
We have a huge report on USA's role in the
censorship industry that we published several months ago, made possible
because of internal documents obtained by Stephen Miller's America First
Legal and if you read that document on the foundation website,
you will never see USA in the same way again.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
So it's ironic.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
On the third of February, in the year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five, we have Michael Benn's here in
the war room. I remember Beatty called me after he
left the White House and said, hey, can't come over
and meet with you. I want to introduce you to
a guy. So Beatty comes over with Bens and I'm
sitting They had this idea on this information. I said,
these are the two smartest guys I've ever met. This
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(24:23):
the oligarchs in the the information platform, And here we
are on Monday, three February.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Beatty's been named an assistant was assistant Secretary of State.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Under Secretary Secretary act acting.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
Under under Secretary under Secretary of State and meeting.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Go ahead, sir.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
When we were talking about that with you, When we
were talking about that with you, we were talking about
the Global Engagement Center. This is in twenty seventeen, and
we were talking about all runs out of the Global
Engagement Center, which was set up by Rick Stengel, who
is the Under Secretary of State Republic Diplomacy.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
And Darren just took his own job.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
This is amazing, No this, I want to have you
on today Historic Darren Betley is going to the State
depart more than with senior jobs and as the key
that picks the lock over there. And Ben's is leaning
the fight, really giving the content that Elon is and
hammering through to shut down USA. To historic day for
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(25:20):
the killer bees.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Thank you, brother, Appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
All right, see.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
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Speaker 5 (25:37):
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Speaker 6 (25:38):
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Speaker 5 (25:44):
Julie Kelly's with us.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
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head this afternoon. A questionnaire went out asking staffers what
if any role they played in that probe. It was
due this afternoon. New York Times reports this quote. The
form requires the employees to say if they collected evidence,
provided supports, r interviewed witnesses, executed search warrants, or testified
at trial, basic activities of FBI employees during the normal

(28:08):
and lawful course of their duties. The number of employees
involved could be as high as six thousand, about a
six of the FBI's entire workforce. Removing all of them
at this time would potentially.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
The m Nicole Nicole, Nicole Wallace, Please chill baby, it's
not a possible perge. It is a perge. Okay, producers
of the NBC the writer script, it's a perche.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
We admit it. Julie Kelly's been there since day one.
Thank you, Julie.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
Integrate on today you got USAID being shut down, They
locked out the six hundred people that in the cold protesting,
and you're doing a purge here at the FBI, man
on exactly the topic that you told them they should
do it, because this largest criminal investigation is actually an
investigation done by criminals.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Ma'am.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
What a tremendous day.

Speaker 10 (29:05):
Again, have to praise President Trump for putting the right
people in place to conduct these purges, whether it's USAID,
and of course commending my friend Mike Bens because without
his diligent work on this posting all of the information
on x and Twitter, his knowledge, I'm sure is just invaluable.

(29:26):
So I want to I want to give him a
deserved shout out as well. But yes, so it appears
that today, by today, all of the FBI employees had
to respond to a questionnaire asking about their participation and
involvement in January sixth.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
The overall investigation.

Speaker 10 (29:46):
Now Steve as Chris Ray used to brag the investigation
involved all fifty six FBI field offices. They all were
participating in the investigations, the arrests, the pre dawn armed
rates vaillance, you know, collecting information from big tech and
from retailers and from banks to track down these people

(30:09):
who went into a government building on a Wednesday afternoon
four years ago. So the answers to that questionnaire was
due today at three o'clock and then by tomorrow, I
believe at noon. The acting FBI director, who also appears
to be trying to not go along with this questionnaire,

(30:30):
trying to defy this order handed down by DOJ, he
has to then provide the results of the top DOJ officials,
and then we will see what they do from there.
But as Nicole Wallace said and other papers newspapers have reported,
it could be up to six thousand agents. Even the

(30:52):
acting FBI Director, Brian Driscoll admitted that he was part
of J six cases as well. So this has been
a pervasive abuse of the law of the FBI's powers.
And we'll be interested to see the results of that
survey and then what the DJ or cash Pattel does

(31:14):
once he has confirmed what he does with that information.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Isn't the guy called the drizz aren't they fighting this now?

Speaker 1 (31:24):
That?

Speaker 5 (31:24):
Should Trump just get rid of all these guys too?

Speaker 6 (31:26):
I mean, aren't isn't there some rearguard action over the
FBI to kick out some store there? I heard there
was a thousand agents or something. We're going to defy
Trump's efforts and defy Trump and defy the cleanup of
this mess. I don't know if you're hearing the same thing, Abo,
I've been hearing this in back channel a lot of stuff.
Should President Trump put up with this nonsense or just

(31:47):
go in there and just get rid of the whole
whatever is left of the seventh floor. Just get rid
of him, drizz because I hear he's trying to be
a big stud in front of the FBI guys. They're
talking a lot of smack over there, ma'am.

Speaker 10 (31:59):
So I think it's okay to kind of lure these
officials into a trap and have them defy and be
insubordinate to higher ups who are now in charge of
the DOJ and then soon FBI. So let's see Brian
Driscoll protect his agents and employees and see what happens

(32:21):
to him from there. I don't see him surviving. But
if he devides these orders, if he is insubordinate, if
he's working behind the scenes with employees instructing them not
to fill out. And this is a pretty detailed questionnaire, Steve,
I mean, this really asks what the agent did. Did
they conduct raids, were they part of did they surveil Americans?

(32:45):
Were they involved in grand jury proceedings? Did they seek
search warrants? Did they testify as witnesses government witnesses at
JA six core proceedings and trials? Because of course there
was always an FBI at least one FBI agent on
the stand during these trials, so they really want a

(33:05):
granular accounting for what these agents and employees did. So
Brian Driscoll is still working behind the scenes to try
to thwart that inquiry that will, I'm sure result in
his ouster. Then you had the head of the New
York FBI Field Office sending an email I think it
was yesterday talking about how he was going to dig in,

(33:26):
that this was comparable to when he was a marine
and he was hunkered down in a fox hole and
he is not going to give up, and encouraging FBI
employees to do the same and talk about how tragic
this is for an internal review as to what the
FBI did in J six cases.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
So I expect he will be gone soon too.

Speaker 10 (33:50):
The head of the Miami Field office appears to be gone,
of course, the Washington Field office gone, the Las Vegas
Field office, the New Orleans Field off office. He has
been let go as well, or told his employees his
staff that he expected to be fired.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
And let go as well.

Speaker 10 (34:09):
Not only because he was on vacation when the attack
happened on New Year's Eve in New Orleans, but he
had also been at the Washington Field office and had
his dirty myths all over the January sixth investigation as well.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
Any new updates we fired what thirty guys men and
women associated with Graves, Any updates on DOJ Southern District
of New York and the field, any of the US
attorney's offices, any update on that, because they got to
purge that whole thing too.

Speaker 10 (34:42):
So Acting Deputy Attorney General Amil Bove also sent had
a conference call with ninety three US attorneys last week.
Some of them have of course been fired or left
before they were fired.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Matthew Graves is one of them, but asking for the
names of.

Speaker 10 (34:59):
Life prosecutors he could send to the Southern border to
help enforce immigration law.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
And this seems to be.

Speaker 10 (35:07):
Their approach those employees who necessarily are protected or can't
be fired, or you want.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
To put them into a situation.

Speaker 10 (35:15):
Where they resign, which we've already seen that being sent
to the Southern Border. Now, Steve, this could be the
case of these FBI agents as well. If they fired
every single agent involved in the January sixth cases, six
thousand or so agents, that would just be beyond.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
A dream come true.

Speaker 10 (35:33):
But there's also some speculation that they will also transfer
those agents down to the southern border or other places
where they can actually fight crime, enforce immigration law because
they have domestic terror expertise and background, because that's what
they consider January sixth an act of domestic terror.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
Yeah, I hope they draw the best lots of all
those great spots down in the border in Arizona and
the desert in Texas, the Rear Grand Valley. That's what
they deserve to go. Julie, amazing reporting as always. Uh,
where do people go to say? If people follow Ben's
on social media and Julie, You're gonna go a long way.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
To understanding how we're taking down the deep state? Where
do folks go at?

Speaker 10 (36:19):
Julie underscore Kelly too acts and then my substack declassified
with Julie Kelly.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
Julie, thank you so much. Thanks see I'm speaking at
the end of February. I haven't seen is that the
twenty seven of the twenty eighth anyway, let's get the
add up Tarrant County. But Jack Pisoba's going to be there,
others Amanda Milius, So it's going to be a wild night.
I can tell you right there, I will speak at

(36:49):
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in Denton County the other day. We got over a
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have a cold open on Canada? And on the do
we have that? Can't play that?

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Do you have what?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Now?

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Let's go and play it. Let's play it with Brion
Naty from the World.

Speaker 11 (37:32):
Well, what's really striking because we all know that President
Trump campaigned on this message and this promise of lowering
costs for everyday Americans did something that I heard over
and over again on the campaign trail from voters, whether
they were voting for President Trump Frankly or Vice President Harris.
The message was that they were very worried about cost
of living. But to hear President Trump say that there

(37:53):
may be some pain, but that that cost of pain
will all be worth it down the line. I think
was him trying to hedge and prepare the American people
for prices going up on everything from avocados coming from
Mexico this year.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Just slammer about this all day long. Prices are not
going up, lady, prices are not going up. You don't
know what you're talking about. None of you people do.
It's just yamer Oh, price going up, price of going on,
price of going on. Price, they're not going up. President
Trump saw this. Let's go to Natalie Winter's Natalie Mexico
created in twenty four hours Shinebab and then Justin Trudeau

(38:25):
also created.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
The reason is is that Mexico would not be.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
A country ninety days after these terrorists were imposed. They
would break apart and Canada would go into a major,
I don't know, recession or depression. Can you give us
an update about the trade wars today that didn't happen.

Speaker 12 (38:45):
Well, look, Steve, if I had to count how many
times I've heard the word what avocados said here on
media row, that seems to be the I guess it's
almost as bad as what bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform that
seems to be the only angle of a that what
the same press core that I'm pretty sure for what
years has never cared about American consumers, let alone American workers,

(39:06):
but now all of a sudden, they're really concerned about
what tariffs because apparently it's going to hurt the bottom
line for Americans at home. I'm pretty sure they never
covered inflation or anything remotely close to that for the
last four years. But this is a complete and utter
victory for President Trump. I'm honored to really be standing
here on such a truly historic day because this really

(39:27):
shows not only Steve that America's back, which is something
that we've known just in what two weeks, but more importantly,
that we're done negotiating from the mindset of being losers
ors the or the idea of equity, that because we're
an economic hedgemon and a global power, that we have
to act like we're an inferior country and not throw
around our economic heavyweights like we're doing right now with

(39:47):
the tariffs. And you know what, we got substantive and
substantial wins today showing how really economic warfare can be
used to bring about wins not just for American workers,
but actually for American sovereignty. Right, ten thousand border patrol
agents coming from Mexico. But remember Steve, Canada too announced
a billion dollars what was at less than twenty four
hours after President Trump met with Trudeau, I guess then

(40:10):
President elect Trump. So this is just win after win,
and frankly, Steve, I think it shows something that we've
hammered from the get go, which is that the framing
of this is a trade war, is President Trump's trade war?
Is victim blaming not only President Trump but the American people.
We are the victims in this. Maybe let's call this
a little bit of retribution or justice today, but for

(40:31):
countries like China, like Mexico, like Canada, who have exploited
American workers in the American economy for way too long.
And it's nice to have a president who's actually putting
American workers first and not taking the bogus line of
the Chamber of Commerce and all the talking heads that
I'm not too far away from.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
Right now, Natalie Hanger, for one second, take a short
break or confirmations when we return to the White House. Oh,
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Speaker 12 (42:09):
It's a huge day for a myriad of reasons. I
want to start, though, with a little bit of a
I guess resistance update for our audience, particularly in the
sile of what's going on at the FBI. Obviously everyone's
favorite Norm Eisen State Democracy Defenders, that's his group, in
conjunction with sort of other people who've been instrumentally every
impeachment and whistleblower against President Trump, that is, infamous Attorney

(42:33):
Mark Zaid, are now threatening to essentially sue, among take
other actions against the Trump administration for daring to purge
the FBI of the rat that so desperately needs to go.
I think you're just like I said last week, we're
starting to see the sort of first showdown between the
resistance law fair elements and what President Trump wants to
do in terms of gutting the administrative state. And to

(42:55):
link that to what you're seeing go on at USAID,
I think the signal, not the noise, is what you know.
Elon Musk was tweeting about USAID. It wasn't just the
concept or the sort of paradigm shift that oh, well,
our tax dollars shouldn't be going and funding ridiculous, woke
programs in foreign countries. He was tweeting actually about stories
that we've I think broke here on the war room,

(43:15):
myself over at the National Pulse, about the biolabs in
Ukraine and COVID receiver at the Wuhan Institute of Virology
receiving upwards of fifty million dollars from USAID to engage
in risky gain of function research. So it's sort of
the dark underbelly that is USAID, which I think is
the important paradigm shift that needs to be happening. But
let's just take a moment, Steve, and just celebrate, truly

(43:37):
again a historic day, how far we have come. But
most importantly, I think today you're seeing essentially the supermajority
right that Republicans have on full display, because what do
you have Jamie Raskin looking like an utter and complete
clown standing outside of USAID giving some weak limp speech
about how they're going to take on and tackle Elon

(43:58):
musk bro You have no power now, don't get me wrong.
I'm sure they're already writing the impeachment papers. In two
years from now they're going to focus on that. But
at least for the next two years, they have basically
no way to push back with the exception of you know,
frivolous lawsuits from groups like Normizen. But I think today
really shows you it's asymmetrical warfare. And I think for

(44:21):
so long we've been on the opposite side of that equation.
But today, whether it's the tariffs, what's going on at
the FBI, what's going on at USAID, they are in
full blown panic and they look like petulant children because
they have really no grounds for recourse. And isn't that wonderful.
I think we call that a little something called retribution
or justice.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I'll take it.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
Big win real quickly, got about a minute and a half,
two minutes. Mike Davis is going to join us here
in a minute, but talk to me about talk to
me about the White House perspective on the confirmation process.

Speaker 12 (44:55):
Ma'am, well, I think they're extremely grateful for all the
call is that this audience has been making. I'm pretty
sure they were receiving upwards of six hundred calls a minute,
so much so that I believe the Senate phone call
system was in meltdown and hasn't been working. So shout
out to the war room posse on that front. I
think with you know, each respective nominee, you know who

(45:17):
the sort of weak points are, the achilles heels are.
But I will say, Steve, I do think that it
is interesting and I think it goes back to something
that we've talked about. If you watch MSNBC, you know
they're always having this sort of internal struggle session about,
you know, whether or not we should take the bait
on this issue.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Or that issue.

Speaker 12 (45:33):
And I think that they know the more that they
sort of fan the flames of attacking these nominees, the
more cover it will give these squishy Republican senators. So
it is interesting how they're not covering it with the
same level I think of intensity that they did Pete
Hegseth because they learned their lesson and most importantly, they
learned that I guess it's better to be I guess
loved than feared by the warroom audience. But they learned

(45:55):
the power in the wrath of the warroom posse, that
we're not to be messed with.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
Natalie.

Speaker 6 (46:01):
Social media and uh hacking go because I know you're
having a fifty stories a day written about you. They're
picking on you over there, we know that. But you're tough,
You're a tough kid. You're tough kid.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, they're not going to get to me.

Speaker 12 (46:15):
They're jealous, and uh they should because our show is
better than there is.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Just look at the viewership.

Speaker 12 (46:20):
Natalie, You winters on all social media platforms.

Speaker 6 (46:25):
You're great, and we can see you on the Matt
Gate Show tonight, the Matt Gate Show on One American News.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
You're gonna be tonight.

Speaker 12 (46:30):
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Speaker 5 (46:39):
Natalie Winners, Natalie g Win. Let's just say I want
we'll see you. Thank you, ma'am. I have no doubt
about that. Thank you, ma'am.

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Speaker 6 (48:12):
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in the confirmation hearing. Also a leak coming out of
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down the Department of Education.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
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