February 6, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON
MIKE DAVIS
Natalie Winters
MIKE LINDELL
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Understand the first few weeks of a second Trump administration.
Go back and listen to what Steve ban until PBS
is frontline in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
The opposition party is the media, and the media can
only because they're dumb and they're lazy. They can only
focus on one thing at a time. All we have
to do is flood the zone. Every day we hit
them with three things, they'll bite on one and we'll
get all of our stuff done. Pang, bang bang. These
guys will never will never be able to recover. But
we got to start with muzzle velocity. So it's got
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to start.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's got to hammer. It's muzzle velocity.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Muzzle velocity, thats insight, there is reel. Focus is a
fundamental substance of democracy. It is particularly the substance of opposition.
People largely learn of what the government is doing through
the media. So if you overwhelm the media.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
A record setting number of executive orders.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Everybody pardons violence, nonviolence.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Including assaulting police officers, birthright citizenship.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
We live in unprecedented time right now.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
If you keep it moving from one thing to the.
Speaker 7 (01:03):
Next, so far, so good.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Is this legal?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
If you give it too many places, it needs to Look,
you've never been deported before.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
All at once, all federal grants and loans will be halted. Look,
there is a purge happening, frankly unprecedented in its nature.
D the Gulf of America, no coherent opposition can really emerge.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It is hard to even think coherently.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Donald Trump's first two weeks in the White House have
followed Bannon's strategy like a script. The flood is a point,
the overwhelm is a point. The message wasn't in any
one executive order or announcement. It was in the cumulative
effect of all of them, the sense that this is
Trump's country, now, it is his government. Now, it follows
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his will, it does what he wants. That he is limitless.
If he says at birthright the citizenship is over, then
it's over.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Or so he wants you to think.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And Trump's first term, people said, don't normalize him. In
a second though, the task, I think is a little
bit clearer. Don't believe him. Because Trump knows that the
power of marketing, the power of belief. If you make
people believe something is true, if you make it likelier
that it becomes true.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
He clawed his way.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Back to great wealth by playing a fearsome billionaire on TV.
He remained himself as a winner after the twenty twenty election,
or refusing to.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Admit he had ever lost.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The American presidency is a limited office, but Trump has
never wanted to be president.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
What he's always wanted to be is king, and his
plan this time is to first play king on TV.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
If we believe he is already king, if we believe
he already has all that power, we will be likelier
to let him govern as a king.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
We will then give him that power. Don't believe him.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Trump has real powers, but they are the powers of
the presidency, the powers Joe Biden had, powers Barack Obama had.
The pardon power is vast and unrestricted, and so he
could indeed part in the January sixth rioters. Federal security
protection is under the discretion of the executive branch, and
so yes, Trump could remove protection from Anthony Fauci and
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Mike Pompeio and John Fulton and Mark Milly and even
Brian Hook, this largely unknown former State Department official who's
under threat from Iran, who even donated time to Trump's
transition team.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
I would be very happy to put President Trump's recknight
in the Middle East against any other president.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
All of this.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It was an act of astonishing cruelty and callousness, This
from a man who nearly died by an assassin's bullet
months ago, As much as anything ever has been this
to me, this was an x ray of the smallness
of Trump's soul. But it was an act that was
within his official power. But the president cannot rewrite the Constitution.
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Within days, his birthright citizenship order was frozen by a judge,
by a Reagan appointee who told Trump's lawyers, I have
difficulty understanding how a member of the bar would state
unequivocally that this is a constitutional order.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
It just boggles my mind.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Then a judge froze Trump's spending freeze. He frozen even
before it went into full effect, and surely thereafter the
Trump administration rescinded the entire order, in part to avoid
a court case that it seemed pretty clear they would lose.
What Bannon wanted, what the Trump administration wants is to
keep everything moving fast.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Muzzle veloci.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
If you're always consumed by the next outrage, you can't
look closely at the last one. Then the impression of
Trump's power remains, and the fact that he keeps stepping
on rakes is missed. The projection of strength obscures the
reality of weakness. Don't believe him. You could see this
a few ways. Is Trump playing a part?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Is he making a bet? Or is he triggering a crisis? Those?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think are the options, And I'm not certain that
even he knows the answer. Trump has always been an improviser.
But if you take it as a bet, a calculation,
then here is a bet he's making.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Maybe this Supreme Court stock with.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
His appointees, gives him powers no peacetime president has ever possessed.
Perhaps all this becomes legal now that he has asserted
its legality. It's not impossible to imagine that bet paying
off for him.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So what if the bet fails?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
What if Trump's arrogations of power are soundly rejected by
the courts? Then comes a question of constitutional crisis. Does
he just ignore the Court's ruling? To do that be
to attempt to kind of coup. I wonder if they
have a stomach for that. The withdrawal of the om
the order to me suggests they don't. Because Bravado aside
Trump's political capital is thin. Gallop is Trump's approval rating
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at forty seven percent, That is about ten points beneath
Joe Biden in January.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Both in his first and his second terms, he entered
office with approval ratings below that of any other president
in the modern era. And so I thought these defenses
of Trump's firings were telling.
Speaker 9 (06:03):
It is the belief of this White House, in the
White House Council's office, that the president was within his
executive authority.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
The law says he's supposed to thirty days.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Notice, he didn't do that. Do you violate the law?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, technically, do you believe that it's legal?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
My definition, it's his administration.
Speaker 9 (06:20):
They work for him at the pleasure of the president,
and if it's illegal, it should be legal.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So then ask yourself, why isn't Trump trying to make
it legal? There is a reason Trump is doing all
this through executive orders run submitting these same directives as
a legislation to.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Pass through Congress.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
A more powerful executive could convince Congress to eliminate the
spending he opposes, or to reform the civil Service to
give him the powers of hiring and firing.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
That he seeks, and there's a good reason to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
To write these changes into legislation would make them both
more durable and would allow him to argue their merits
in a more strategic way. He'll be performing the entire system.
The Republicans at the moment, they have only a three seat.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Edge the House.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Smallest majorities is a great depression. They have a fifty
three seat majority in the Senate. Trump is obviously doing
nothing to reach out to Democrats. If Trump tried to
pass this agenda's legislation, it would fail and that would
make Trump look weak, and Trump Trump doesn't want to
look weak. He remembers John McCain humiliating him in his
first term by casting the deciding vote against Obamacare appeal.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Congress is a place where you can lose.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
What Trump wants you to see. And all this activity
is command what is really and all this activity is chaos.
They have convinced themselves its speed and force is a
strategy unto itself that it is in a sense or
replacement for an actual strategy for thinking and talking things through,
for consultation, for planning things out.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Don't believe them.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I had a conversation a couple months ago with someone
who knows how the federal government works about as well
as anyone alive, and.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Asked him what would worry him most if he saw
Trump do it it.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
What he said was he would worry most if Trump
went slowly, if he began his term by doing things
that made him more popular that made his opposition weaker
and more confused. If he worked by stealth, if he
tried to build strength for the midterms while slowly expanding
his powers and shipping away at the state in the
places where it was weakest, where people couldn't really see
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him doing it. But Trump didn't do any of that,
instead muzzle velocity. And so the opposition to Trump, which
seems so listless and absent after the election, now it's
beginning to arouse itself.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
There's a subreddit for federal employees.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Where one of the top posts reads, this non buyout
really seems to have backfired.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I'll be honest.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Before that email went out, I was looking for any
way to get out of this fresh hell. But now
I'm fired up to make these goons as frustrated as possible.
As I write this, it's been uploaded more than thirty
nine thousand times, and civil servant after civil servant is
echoing the initial sentiment. In Iowa, this week, Democrats flipped
the state Senate seat in a district that Trump had
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won easily in twenty twenty four. The attempted spending freeze
give Democrats their voice back as he zeroed in on
the popular programs Trump had imperiled. Trump isn't building support here,
He's losing it. Trump isn't fracturing his opposition, He's finally
uniting it. This is the weakness of the strategy that
Bannon proposed and that Trump is following. It is a
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strategy that forces you into overreach. To keep his own flooded,
you have to keep acting, You have to keep moving,
You have to keep creating new cycles of outrage or
fear to keep the media and the opposition overwhelmed. But
then you overwhelm yourself. They are flooding their own zone.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Trump sees his own fork in the road coming. He
may believe he's a power he is claiming. That would
be a mistake on his part.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
It would be a self deception that could doom his presidency.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
But the real threat is if he convinces the rest
of us to believe he has power he does not
have the first two weeks of his.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Presidency have not shown his strength.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
He is trying to overwhelm you. He is trying to
keep you off balance. He is trying to convince you
of something that isn't true. Don't believe him.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people. The people have had a belly full
of it.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Mega media?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
If that answer is to save my country, this country.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Will be saved. Worry yo, Stephen K.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Bath Welcome, It's Thursday, sixth February, Year of Our Lord
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Want to play that from measure client.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Right there, they understand flood the zone and how they're
trying to combat it by focus, focus, focus. They're still
getting overwhelmed and they will continue to be overwhelmed because
President Trump is taking actions in every different vertical and
pushing the and pushing the envelope. Here later have Ben
Berkwam and Benson on about the deportations effort and going
after the cartel's effort.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
President Trump also signs our Pam BONDI.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I think he signs an executive order with Pam Bonnie's
going to hit up a task force to make sure
the government does not have any anti Christian bias.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
And that's gonna be quite interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
But today we're getting a beatback in federal court. President Trump,
then I think put the entire USAID on leave. There's
a lot going on to I have Natalie. Is Natalie
up at the Is she up at the White House?
Speaker 7 (12:03):
Shut? We're trying to get this up. Okay, can we
go there?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Not?
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Fine, I'll keep I'll keep it right here. We're good.
There we go, Natalie.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So you heard the open right there.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
They understand the flood the zone strategy.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
They're trying to fight back a lot of this is
taking place in federal court. Of course, all of your
embeds in the federal government or fighting back and leaking
folks should understand this is the White House has got
pedaled down.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
In no break. Things are coming out everything.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
President Trump gave a great a brief to the press
on his populous tax cuts. We'll get to that, Natalie,
give us a sense of the White House. How's it going,
and particularly on the resistance, ma'am to flood the zone.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
Yes, well, I'm always honored to sit in that press
briefing room and have a front row seat not just
to the press briefings, but more importantly to the resistance,
which of course is I think the bedrock of it
becoming more and more each day the mainstream media. Before
we get into all the lawsuits, I guess we should
say the law fair I just want to give I
guess it's a little bit of an exclusive. Put our
audience inside the room. As I was getting ready to
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come out here and do this hit. I have to
say it was really, I mean, from my perspective, a
glorious feeling going on in that press briefing room. But
every single mainstream media journalist looked so dejected. I was
listening to their conversations. They're all so tired. They're like,
I don't even know how to cover this. I think
the quote of the day has to be it's just
all dismantling.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
It's dismantling everything.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
And I wanted to turn to him and say, well, yes, exactly,
and that's what the American people elected President Trump to do.
But in terms of pushing back against this dismantling, getting
into the serious stuff, I think today, I think last
night was really the most intense I've ever seen MSNBC
really engage with the resistance, even saying that word which
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sort of wasn't really spoken out loud ah that often
saying it explicitly. And that's because today on various verticals
you've seen the lawfare that.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
They've been planning and pooling for a while sort of
come to fruition.
Speaker 9 (14:06):
Obviously, we hit the Department of Labor lawsuit earlier today,
keeping dose kind of preemptively out of their hair. Obviously,
Treasury with the exception of two individuals having read only
access to what's going on up in Treasury with Scott Bessn't.
That was what we covered this morning, but since then
about an hour before we came to air the infamous
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buyout offer right the fork in the road email, a
district judge here in DC, a Clinton appointee, stepped in
and essentially said that we won't be able to.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Roll that out. They're going to have an additional hearing
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Natalie, hang on one second, We're going to take a
short commercial if you're going to come back the resistance
in federal court with certain administrative judges, President Trumps still
keeping the pedal down, sending executive orders, taking executive actions
all next in.
Speaker 10 (14:56):
The war room, Austin has put a temporary stop on
President Trump and Elon Musk's attempt to buy out the
federal workforce, ruling that both the administration and the labor
unions who brought this suit need more time to brief
their arguments, meaning that until next hearing. The next hearing,
which is by the way, schedule for Monday, all employees
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who may have taken the buyout must be told the
offer is blocked until at least next week.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
There are still major.
Speaker 10 (15:26):
Questions though, about what's going to happen after that. First,
and foremost, whether the offer is legal, but also even
if it is whether the government has the money to
fund the buyouts. After all, Congress has not allocated any
money for that purpose, and there is still a looming
fight over a shutdown.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
One of the members of the engine room just said, Hey,
look what Trump's is kind of blitzkrieg. It's to overwhelm
and develop and continue to move on, not stop bang
bang bank. Natalie, and these people are smart, and they're
particularly using what they've got, which is media, which has
been a little bit overwhelmed, but also to use the
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courts now and to use your brilliant term, the in
beds that infests as government. Of the two and a
half million civilian I think we got forty thousand, was
it forty thousand takes on the buyout?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Was that the number?
Speaker 9 (16:28):
I think it was about two percent of the entire workforce.
I think we need to add at least another zero
to that. I guess maybe. Hey, the silver lining of
postponing this till bunday is that I guess more people
can sign on.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
But to go back to this concept of embed.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
Steve, because I think that really gets to the heart
of it, right, the concept of civil society, but most
importantly civil service and civil servants at that right. That
was sort of the cornerstone of their resistance since they
lack any institutional power right now. And the group that
actually sued to stop this fork in the Road email
memo and was actually Democracy Forward, the group that we've
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been talking about extensively, the consortium of over two hundred
resistance type groups. You got the ACLUS, the splcs, every
know woke group that exists under the sun and probably
is receiving your tax payer to dollars. But they all
represent and basically could create this group called Democracy Forward.
But remember the first step that they took when they
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set up this new group was to create something called
Civil Service Strong And it was a very activist approach
I always described as a sort of the impeachment that
could have been.
Speaker 11 (17:36):
Right.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
They were constructing federal service, federal servants to basically become whistleblowers.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
How they could best.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Do that, how they could best file lawsuits themselves citing discrimination.
And I think, frankly, Steve, the best and most interesting,
frankly insightful part of the whole Democracy Forward operation is
that one of their board members was actually a DOJ career,
your civil servant under both Biden and President Trump in
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the Voting Rights Division. And I think that that speaks
to the concept of embed with rather metaphorical significance. That
the same guy who wants to now make the case
that all of these civil servants are not doing anything
to oppost President Trump's legislative agenda, well that's now the
very same guy who's on the board of the organization
suing President Trump for trying to rid his administration of
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people just like him. But I will say a bright
spot today. Obviously there was a lot of outrage. I
was going to say media outrage, but I think not
from the outlets that are just a few feet away
from me, because they're all on the take from USAID.
But President Trump ordered a GSA to rescind any federal
funding subscriptions or otherwise going to outlets, including, but not
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limited to because they're investigating a politico, the BBC and.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
The New York Times.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
So maybe that's why they are the long faces in
that press briefing room.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Talk about the morale the White House, I mean, these
folks are working now seven days a week, eighteen hour days.
I understand the euphorier when you first get there, the intensity,
but they're under onslaught. They're getting, you know, getting the
bad looks from the media, and as you know, the
right White House Briefing Room, which is still right there,
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it's not moved over to EOB, is right in the
middle of things. What's the energy you're seeing from EOB
and from the West wing, what's the energy, the intensity?
Speaker 7 (19:32):
How are we doing.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Well?
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Frankly, I think Doze needs to get to work in
the press briefing room, but I'll leave.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
That aside for a second. Look. I think that what
it has come down to, Obviously they have embeds.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
They've done the burrowing in of all the civils or
the presidential appointments under President Biden, turning them into career
civil servants. They've tried to mount the best resistance that
they can. But unfortunately, and you know, we are not
shall we say sunshine soldiers are soldiers here in the
war room. We call shots, we call balls and strikes
every person for the most part, you know, there's always
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some issues. But who has been appointed under President Trump.
I think, particularly at the Department of Justice, has been
an absolute killer. And I think that there's if you
really get down to it, a certain level of agency
and autonomy that a lot of these individuals have in
terms of feeling comfortable to actually push back and carry
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out their own mandate that I think if you really
get to the core of it, much like the resistance,
is very systemic, well thought out, and well planned. I
know you aren't allowed to say the words Project twenty
twenty five, but this is a resistance, a sort of
pro Trump resist, since that's been being planned for a
very very long time, right, we had four years to
plan this, and I think what you're seeing is execution,
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And I know the commshop has been working over time
to really message and push back against a lot of
the sneers coming from the main shod media. I think
one point an example that really showcases this is that
the mainstream media is trying to take a bunch of
laps and dunk not just on the White House, but
on the sort of you know X Brigade, saying that, oh, well,
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some of the grants that you guys have identified, they're
actually not coming from USAID, but rather they're coming.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
From the State Department.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
And I think that that logic Steve actually proves why
President Trump's federal funding freeze needs to be implemented, because
it's not just usaid. There is something rotten within the
entirety of this government. And I think President Trump and
like I said, the Twitter researchers, the Twitter investigators, the
DOGE people are really getting to the bottom of it,
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and it really is firing on all cylinders. And like
I said, Steve, the real tell I wish the audience.
I would do anything I could to bring you guys
inside that room with me.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
They're in absolute meltdown. I believe.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
I heard everyone say, I can't believe it's not Friday yet.
I can't believe the week's not over. It feels like
we've been here for months. It feels like this is
the longest week ever. It's just about dismantling. How do
we cover it? And then another quote, I don't think
that you know, the people want to read about all
these stories about these random agencies being shut down, And
I was like, no, we do, and we're going.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
To well, this is what deconstruction, administrative state is, right,
they're seeing it right now. They did end this man
linked I think going through I know, but I think
going through and looking at the numbers and what Elon
is doing in that regard is very powerful, and obviously
with USAID and others. I'll talk in a little while
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about I think we got to start getting serious about
where we're going to have the big cuts because the
fourteenth of March is not going to go away, and
that's when the government runs out of money. Last thing
before I let you go, Ezra Kline. This thing is
going super viral on the left with the Indivisible Group,
Democracy Forward, the media. They feel Ezra Cline's giving them
a way forward, particularly that Trump really doesn't have any power.
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He has the projection of power and if they just pick,
if they don't go after it everything. As we keep saying, here,
focus his power, focus his power, they're trying to say
the same mantra to pick and choose where you fight Trump.
Do you believe that as you see it, the left
is the left is picking that up right now?
Speaker 9 (23:14):
Kind of sounds like the foil to Curtis Yarvin, you know,
I don't necessarily I can't put myself in the mindset.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Or the shoes of the resistance types.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
But as someone who has read I think every pamphlet
available in terms of what they're telling their audience, I
attend all their town halls. I watch all of the
rhetoric that they're putting out there. I think, truly, Steve,
part of it is cope, right. They need the idea
that what they can do actually has some effect, and
I think up until yesterday, their efforts to push back
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through the media, we're really not all that successful.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
I think today they've started to.
Speaker 9 (23:48):
See some legal and lawfare victories, albeit temporary, right, They're
not the permanent injunctions that they're pushing forse So we'll
see how that works out when President Trump's team actually
is the opportunity.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
To push back.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
But this mindset of civil society, I think the biggest lie,
frankly Steve being pushed on sort of the grassroots left
right now is that they actually have a voice in
the resistance movement because this is something.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
That's not happening right.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
That's sort of the I think juxtaposition of our show
versus the left wing grass roots right. Our resistance is
driven by the people who view this show, and it's
against the party elites. Democrat resistance is driven by the
party elites, oftentimes against their own grassroots, but the grassroots
what they want to see come from the party the
more populous left wing stuff they're never going to get.
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So they're sort of fighting for a pyrrhic victory, right,
they're only fighting to make democratic power. Brokers and elites
kind of have that institutional power. It's the people like
Normalize and it's the Victorian Newlance, it's the regime change
people who.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Are really focused on this.
Speaker 9 (24:50):
And frankly, Steve, I don't even think the paradigm, much
like you always say, is necessarily democrat republican. You're talking
about usaid, You're talking about an existential threat not just
to Democra.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
But to this sort of just neo con for lack.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Of a better world word, world order that in the
same way, it's sure it's the Soros groups too, but
it's also the International Republican Institute that thinks that we
need to be the world's policeman. So it's an interesting
thing that we're definitely going to be tracking here. But
I think the audience just needs to remember groups like
Indivisible Democracy, Forward, Democracy twenty twenty five and of course
(25:23):
Democracy Docket, Mark Elias's group, These are what we need
to be focusing on. Don't get lost with the shiny
toys that's the hotbed of resistance.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Natalie' very proud of the work you're doing.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
The one person's kind of trying to coordinate all this
and see it's just amazing.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
So where do people go for your social media?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Man?
Speaker 9 (25:44):
Natalie, do you enters on all social media platforms? Thank
you for having me and thank you to the audience
for letting me stand inside that really depressed briefing room.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
So great.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
They're depressed for They're depressed for all the right reasons, ma'am.
Deacon Rrecking in the administrative state, Natalie Winners at the
White House, want to thank Real America's Voice.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Want to thank President Trump's and White House Comm's team.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Want to thank Susie Wilds, the Chief of Staff for
everybody for making that available.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
I think we're making good use of it. Mike Davis
is going to join us.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I want to make sure that we understand the legal
the chop blocks they're coming after us. And also Cash
Patel a little drama there today with Cash. Some great
news on an executive order to make sure there's no
bias of Christianity.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Are Christians in the government.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Catherine O'Neil worked at the State Department trying to get
her on to talk about that.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
That was her line of work. Birch Gold.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
President put in a populous tax policy this afternoon.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
You're going to love him.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
We're not all the way there, but man, he has
really thrown down hard birch Gold dot com slash Bannon
go check it out today.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Talk to Philip Patrick and the team like Davis.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Next, here's your host, Stephen k Back.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay, President Trump's tax policies. I'll get that tweet here
in a second, or the true people have been tweeting
it out. Basically, President Trump reconfirm no tax on tips,
no tax on overtime, no tax on social Security.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
He's going to do away with carried interest. He's going
to do it.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
With any kind of tax breaks for bonairs on sports teams.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
It's pretty powerful.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
More about manufacturing, tax breaks for manufacturing here, pretty incredible.
Great first start, I mean pushing this through in the
big one was no tax on Social Security, which means
we've got to all the doers out there, time now
to stop failing and trying to change the subjects. Where
(27:55):
are your cuts? We need to do. What we need
to do is to tree and dollars. You promised us.
So where are they. Maybe they're south of the Potomac.
I think they might be in the Pentagon, some of them,
and some of them may be in SpaceX.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Just saying we're we get to all that a little later.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Mike Davis, lawfair, legal, the Block, and President Trump, so
just give an objective. They're hitting us with lawsuits everywhere,
state level, federal level. What's working and what's not and
what's the mindset we have to have to power through
to power through these lawsuits.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
President Trump ran on a campaign up bringing this much
needed reform to Washington, DC, including cutting wasteful spending, ending
the weaponization of intellegencies and law enforcement, ending discrimination against
women and girls in sports and in locker rooms, against
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the anti Christian bias. Trump is delivering on what the
American people elected him to do, and he is using
his Article to power under the Constitution to do this.
And so the people who don't like this are running
to these activist judges and getting temporary restraining orders and
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preliminary and junctions.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
To stop this.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
And I would advise the Trump Justice Department to move
forward boldly and aggressively and seek expedite it review by
the appellate courts and use the emergency docket at the
Supreme Court aggressively if you have to for these activist
judges who are trying to stop the President from asserting
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his article to power.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Let me give you an example.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
We had a judge, a Reagan appointed judge in the
DC District Court, Judge royce Landberth, who was a pain
in the ass.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
On January sixth.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
These this old, decrep it judge who barely can walk,
as Julie Kelly will talk about.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
He should just step down from the bench.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
He issued an injunction I think it was yesterday saying
that that it's cruel and unusual punishment on the under
the eighth Amendment to the Constitution to not give prisoners
their transgender pills and surgeries, which is just absolutely insane.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
And that's it's the it's.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
These activist judges, whether it's left wing judges appointed by
Obama or Biden, or these washed up, weak Republican judges
from our from a prior era.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
We we cannot tolerate this.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
We need to get uh, these appellate courts to step
up and slap down these activist judges with their nationwide
injunctions which I don't understand how who are how are constitutional?
And get the Supreme Court again to step in on
the emergency docket if we have to.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Okay, hang for one second, I want to are you
saying you want the Justice Department that you're going to
see active as judges all over at the first line,
at the district level. You want the Justice Department now
to extradite and go above that to Appellate Court. Let's
get some rulings on this and just clear the path, right,
just clear the path and get back to that.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
Is that your recommendation.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Absolutely aggressively seek emergency relief from the Appellate Court's emergency
relief from the Supreme Court of the United States on
the emergency docket. And I would say at the Article
three projects, I am so sick of the d C
District Court. I'm disgusted by it. I'm disgusted by what
they did to these January sixth defendants. So we're going
(31:42):
to come up with legislation at the Article three project
to reign in the DC District Court, this DC District
Court that politically persecuted January sixth defendants, This DC District
Court that's put a seventy five year old Christian in
prison under the Face Act. This DC dishc court that
politicized and weaponized our justice system to go after Trump.
(32:06):
This is unacceptable and these DC District Court judges need
to get reined in. There needs to be oversight by
the House and Senate Judiciary Committee, Oversite Committee, Appropriation Committee,
and we need to pass legislation to take away the power,
to take away the jurisdiction, to take away the power
from these DC District Court judges. They are a bunch
(32:27):
of partisan activists from again from Obama or Biden or
they are weak, feckless Republicans, and it's unacceptable and there
needs to be consequences, and we're going to push very
hard at the Article three Project for that to happen.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
On another topic, you're the Article three project because you
deal with the courts. As you look at this, given
the U clerk for Gorsage, as you look at this,
on anything you've seen Doge doing today, and look, Elon's
out there and I want him to focus more on
real cuts, but he's doing his line diagram for the system.
(33:06):
He's trying to lay these guys guys everywhere and then
you got President Trump doing executive orders, and Mike Johnson
looks like he's agreeing with him. He's Speaker of the House,
John Thune. Seems like the Senate's fine with it. Do
you see any constitutional conflict between the Article one powers
and the Article two powers of the executive branch as
(33:28):
you see it right now, Any real, any real kind
of conflict or crisis.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
No.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
I mean, Congress has the power to legislate, and the
President under Article two has the power to faithfully execute
our laws, and he has to take care that they
are executed and in an appropriate way. And when you have,
for example, a federal agency like USAID that is subverting
our national security interest, that's funding BLM right through the
(33:59):
Tide Foundation goes to BLM so they can do their riots.
That's funding our enemies abroad. That's a big problem in
the president. When you're dealing with an agency that has
a foreign policy of implications, then the president has more
power as commander in chief to do more than he
does with domestic agencies. So I am all in on
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cutting wasteful government spending and.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Doing it in any way that you legally can do it,
because it's.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Refreshing to finally have a Republican administration that's not part
of the uniparty that actually wants to go in and
cut spending in Washington, d C. Republicans have been talking
about doing this for decades. New Gangers tried it back
in nineteen ninety eight. They tried it for a couple
of years, and then Republicans went back to being big
(34:53):
spending drunken sailors with the Democrats. And it's nice to
have an attitude adjustments with President Trump, this time cutting
in and actually trying to take a hammer to these
government agencies. For example, the New York Times is reporting
that USAID. This is breaking news that USAID, which has
(35:13):
ten thousand employees, the Trump administration, according to three sources,
is looking to cut that down from ten thousand to
two hundred and ninety employees.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
So those are the types.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
Of things the Trump administration can do to rein in
these out of control agencies that are wasting hundreds of
billions of dollars of American taxpayer money every year.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
The other thing that's breaking right now he has said
that they're putting all of the all of the USAID
I think on leave on temporary leave. Can the executive
branch in the unified theory theory of the executive does
he have the power one to basically send him on
some sort of temporary leave?
Speaker 7 (35:57):
Number two?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Does he have the powers he have to go back
to Congress in the appropriations process?
Speaker 7 (36:02):
Does he have the power to go from ten thousand
to two hundred ninety?
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Sir, Well, it's amazing. For four years these federal bureaucrats.
Five years, these federal bureaucrats through a fit and got
to work from home because of COVID, and then President
Trump brings them back to work and they're throwing a
fit that they get brought back to work. And now
President Trump's going to send these USAID people back home
and they're crying again.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
So I'm not sure one which way they want to go.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Do they want to come into the office and work
or do they want to stay home?
Speaker 6 (36:33):
But does President Trump have that power? Sure?
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Under Article two of the Constitution, the president runs the
executive Branch. He's the head of the executive branch, and
he gets to hire and fire people. And statutes that
prevent the president from hiring and firing federal Executive Branch
employees are unconstitutional under Article two of the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
This a lot of this is pushing towards empowerment. Do
you think that pay a letter or somebody at OMB
we just want to get on with it, because this
is about the President saying, Hey, I understand there's a
preparations process.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
I understand that's a law. Understand that's a statute. But
that's a ceiling.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
And if that's the ceiling, I'm the chief executive of
the government by the Constitution. If IDM that the program
is not hitting, is not doing what we're supposed to do,
I can go in and take that. I can go
say there's no more degreen new scam or no more
USAID and there's thirty billion dollars around, I can lay
my hands on that and do something else with it,
or just have it pay down the deficit. Do you
(37:32):
think that pay a letta and vote and others? Maybe
the White House counsel or people over at DOJ ought
to start teeing up and let's go for let's go
force the empowerment issue right now.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
I love Mark Payoletta and I love russ votes.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
This empowerment thing got President Trump impeached on the first
term so what the hell, let's do it again, Let's
get them impeached for the third time. But you know,
I mean, if you think about it, think about what
the opposition to this is saying, you had what one
hundred and eighty billion dollars go to Ukraine and Zolensky.
And Zolensky said, well, I didn't get one hundred billion
dollars of that one hundred and eighty billion dollars. So
(38:08):
where the hell did that hundred billion dollars go? And
if the president doesn't have the article to power to
take care that one hundred billion dollars is not sent
to an oligarch's rats nest, then we might have a problem.
Under our constitution, the president has a constitutional obligation to
take care that the laws are faithfully executed, and that
(38:30):
includes appropriations by Congress. And if these appropriations are being misspent,
if there's fraud, then the president has a duty to
make sure that doesn't happen.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
We talked about this on Friday.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
It was happening, what happened to the FBI on the
J six investigation, what happened.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
At a DOJ with the laying off of these some.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Of these prosecutors I talked to you about, Hey, do
you think they're going to try to come back and
get another day with Cash? It turns out today instead
of coming in for a vote, they went in in
high dungeon and said we have to kick it a week.
We need more investigation, and Derwan and these guys want
to go next week.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
What is your.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Assessment of where we stand in the process with Cash Pateel.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
I was the chief counsel for nominations on the Senate
Judiciary Committee in the first term for President Trump. Chairman
Chuck Grassley, my former boss, is the perfect person to
lead President Trump's Justice Department nominees and judges through the
process like he did the first time. Cash Battel, as
we know, is a controversial pick. He says Mike Davis
(39:35):
level stuff when he goes on his podcast, and Chuck
Grassley has got him through this Senate Judiciary Committee process unscathed, right.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
And so what happened is the.
Speaker 8 (39:47):
Democrats wanted to open up another hearing like they always do.
Chuck Grassley told them no appropriately and with this one
week holdover, this is routine. I know people are freaking
out about this today and this is part of the
Senate Judiciary Committee rules that nominees go get nominated. They
have pre pre hearing stuff that they have to do, paperwork, they.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Have to submit, meetings they have to do.
Speaker 8 (40:12):
They have their hearing, which we did two wednesdays ago
with Cash Betel, and then they have written questions after
their hearing which Cash has responded to and submit it.
Then you have two markup meetings where they debate the nomination.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
The first one they.
Speaker 8 (40:28):
Debate generally they hold over the nominee for another week,
which they just did today, and then they had the
mark the committee vote, the markup vote the following which
which following week, which they'll do next Thursday.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
This is all routine.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
Chuck Grassley has this under control and Cash Betel will
be our next FBI director because of the grassly strong support.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Mike quick break, I want to bring you back for
a minute about the Christian Executive Order the next.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Hugh's your host, Stephen k Bat.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Mike Davi is so over it with Pam Bondi DJ.
She's gonna be charge of a task force to go
through and see if there's any bias or any prejudice
against Christians and Christianity in the federal government.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
How in your mind, how would that work?
Speaker 11 (41:21):
Well?
Speaker 8 (41:21):
President Trump issued in an executive order today calling on
these agency heads to establish a working group, and Pam's
gonna share. The Attorney General, Pam Bondi is going to
share that working group. And their job is to root
out this anti Christian bias that we have throughout our
executive branch. It's so pervasive they don't even try to
(41:43):
hide it. And they're going to make clear that Christians
are welcomed into the public square and any anti Christian
bias is going to be eliminated immediately and dealt with appropriately.
The war on Christians, and frankly, the war on Christians
and Jews is over under the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Mike Article three now more than ever, we got to
get up the second round of nominations that coming. We
got a huge tractor pulling froms because they're slowing everything down.
Russ vote, his vote tonight's not going to come until later.
You've got cash obviously in all the second and thirdier
people that really make things run. Where do they go
for Article three? And how do they sign up for
(42:28):
your program?
Speaker 8 (42:29):
Article three? Project dot org? Article number three, Project dot org.
You can donate there. You can follow us on social media.
The most important thing the War Room Posse does is
take action, and it's up on your screen right now.
We have Cash Betel, we have RFK, we have Tolci,
We're going to have Todd blanche Is the Deputy Attorney General,
Harmeet Dylan to head the Civil Rights Division, Gail Slater
(42:53):
to run the Anti Trust Division. President Trump is bringing
in bold, fearless reformers, and these senators have gotten an
attitude adjustment from the War Room Posse. We've done nearly
two hundred thousand contacts to our home state senators and
we're getting President Trump's nominees across the finish line, including
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Pete Hegseth, Pam.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
Bondi, and others.
Speaker 8 (43:17):
We're going to keep going at the Article three project
until every one of these nominees is confirmed. And we're
going to be with President Trump at the Article three
Project with the War Room Posse every second of every
day for the next four years.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
Hey man, social media.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Late at night, your Twitter feed is enlightening's.
Speaker 8 (43:40):
You can go to m r D DMI a m
R D DMIA and That's where I'm coming in hots,
particularly after nine pm.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
I don't know what happens to me. Then I turn
into a monster.
Speaker 7 (43:54):
I don't know what happens to you either.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
I think the smoking lamp may be let I have
no idea, but it's enlightening on the dark night of
the soul. Let's say that, Mike Davis, we love you, brother,
Thank you, thank you So Lindell, what does it tell
us that the President of the United States, I want
to think about this for a second. The President of
the United States, in a nation that was formed as
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the New Jerusalem, has to sign on the sixth of
February and the year of Our Lord twenty twenty five,
has to sign an executive order that says, a working
group of department heads and led by the Attorney General
of these United States underneath him, kind of his deputy
chief Law enforcement officer, to make sure they go through
(44:41):
a six and a half treeon dollar federal government and
spending and probably eighty doll one hundred trellion dollars in
assets in every aspect of American life with ten million employees, right,
they have to go through to make sure they rid it.
They rid itself and report back to him on the
US against Christians and Christianity.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
Was it to you, sir, Well, I'm living in Steve.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Let's start. I'm gonna have Pam BONDI I hope she's watching.
Speaker 11 (45:08):
Start with Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Attacking a Christian recovery network, the Lindell Recovery Network.
Speaker 11 (45:17):
Steve, they're going all in attacking that, and for what
Because we want to help addicts and people in addiction
get to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I mean, start with that guy. You can't you can't
make this stuff.
Speaker 11 (45:30):
Up why Christians are targeted, and go and praise the
Lord that we have a great president that's going to
address this because he.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Once we said it earlier today on the show This Morning.
Speaker 11 (45:43):
You guys, we're in a spiritual battle of evil versus good,
of historical biblical proportions.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
We're in the greatest time to be alive because we're
living it.
Speaker 11 (45:53):
We're the ones that are going to be pushing through
and helping get rid of get We know how it ends.
Good wins in the end, and he is going to
go down. But Steve, I lived that with Keith Ellison.
What has been horrific these last couple of months as
he's attacked my Lindell Recovery.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Network, a Christian network. It's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Real quickly, Mike, your fight against Ellison is getting epic proportions.
And they're trying to shut down the Christian network. That's
what they're trying to do, his recovery network. They're trying
to shut it down.
Speaker 7 (46:25):
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in the White House and President Trump. She was everywhere
on the campaigns in the White House, she over the
State Department, worked this problem every day, this bias against
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Christianity and Christians. She's going to join us also, Ben
Berkwam and Todd Bensman. Todd Bensman got working on pieces
right now about the kinetic activity that might come to
the cartels. What is it really going to take to
stop fentno All? And was President Trump prepared to do?
Also the Mexican president and Ben Berkwom the ice raids,
(48:38):
Where are we going? Where we headed? And how are
you going to get ten million people out of here?
Speaker 7 (48:44):
All important on a on a.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Thursday action pack. There's the nation's capital right there, the
right stuff, that's it. Short, break back in the warm
in a moment
Understand the first few weeks of a second Trump administration.
Go back and listen to what Steve ban until PBS
is frontline in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
The opposition party is the media, and the media can
only because they're dumb and they're lazy. They can only
focus on one thing at a time. All we have
to do is flood the zone. Every day we hit
them with three things, they'll bite on one and we'll
get all of our stuff done. Pang, bang bang. These
guys will never will never be able to recover. But
we got to start with muzzle velocity. So it's got
(00:30):
to start.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's got to hammer. It's muzzle velocity.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Muzzle velocity, thats insight, there is reel. Focus is a
fundamental substance of democracy. It is particularly the substance of opposition.
People largely learn of what the government is doing through
the media. So if you overwhelm the media.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
A record setting number of executive orders.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Everybody pardons violence, nonviolence.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Including assaulting police officers, birthright citizenship.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
We live in unprecedented time right now.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
If you keep it moving from one thing to the.
Speaker 7 (01:03):
Next, so far, so good.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Is this legal?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
If you give it too many places, it needs to Look,
you've never been deported before.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
All at once, all federal grants and loans will be halted. Look,
there is a purge happening, frankly unprecedented in its nature.
D the Gulf of America, no coherent opposition can really emerge.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It is hard to even think coherently.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Donald Trump's first two weeks in the White House have
followed Bannon's strategy like a script. The flood is a point,
the overwhelm is a point. The message wasn't in any
one executive order or announcement. It was in the cumulative
effect of all of them, the sense that this is
Trump's country, now, it is his government. Now, it follows
(01:50):
his will, it does what he wants. That he is limitless.
If he says at birthright the citizenship is over, then
it's over.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Or so he wants you to think.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And Trump's first term, people said, don't normalize him. In
a second though, the task, I think is a little
bit clearer. Don't believe him. Because Trump knows that the
power of marketing, the power of belief. If you make
people believe something is true, if you make it likelier
that it becomes true.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
He clawed his way.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Back to great wealth by playing a fearsome billionaire on TV.
He remained himself as a winner after the twenty twenty election,
or refusing to.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Admit he had ever lost.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The American presidency is a limited office, but Trump has
never wanted to be president.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
What he's always wanted to be is king, and his
plan this time is to first play king on TV.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
If we believe he is already king, if we believe
he already has all that power, we will be likelier
to let him govern as a king.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
We will then give him that power. Don't believe him.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Trump has real powers, but they are the powers of
the presidency, the powers Joe Biden had, powers Barack Obama had.
The pardon power is vast and unrestricted, and so he
could indeed part in the January sixth rioters. Federal security
protection is under the discretion of the executive branch, and
so yes, Trump could remove protection from Anthony Fauci and
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Mike Pompeio and John Fulton and Mark Milly and even
Brian Hook, this largely unknown former State Department official who's
under threat from Iran, who even donated time to Trump's
transition team.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
I would be very happy to put President Trump's recknight
in the Middle East against any other president.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
All of this.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It was an act of astonishing cruelty and callousness, This
from a man who nearly died by an assassin's bullet
months ago, As much as anything ever has been this
to me, this was an x ray of the smallness
of Trump's soul. But it was an act that was
within his official power. But the president cannot rewrite the Constitution.
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Within days, his birthright citizenship order was frozen by a judge,
by a Reagan appointee who told Trump's lawyers, I have
difficulty understanding how a member of the bar would state
unequivocally that this is a constitutional order.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
It just boggles my mind.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Then a judge froze Trump's spending freeze. He frozen even
before it went into full effect, and surely thereafter the
Trump administration rescinded the entire order, in part to avoid
a court case that it seemed pretty clear they would lose.
What Bannon wanted, what the Trump administration wants is to
keep everything moving fast.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Muzzle veloci.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
If you're always consumed by the next outrage, you can't
look closely at the last one. Then the impression of
Trump's power remains, and the fact that he keeps stepping
on rakes is missed. The projection of strength obscures the
reality of weakness. Don't believe him. You could see this
a few ways. Is Trump playing a part?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Is he making a bet? Or is he triggering a crisis? Those?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think are the options, And I'm not certain that
even he knows the answer. Trump has always been an improviser.
But if you take it as a bet, a calculation,
then here is a bet he's making.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Maybe this Supreme Court stock with.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
His appointees, gives him powers no peacetime president has ever possessed.
Perhaps all this becomes legal now that he has asserted
its legality. It's not impossible to imagine that bet paying
off for him.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So what if the bet fails?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
What if Trump's arrogations of power are soundly rejected by
the courts? Then comes a question of constitutional crisis. Does
he just ignore the Court's ruling? To do that be
to attempt to kind of coup. I wonder if they
have a stomach for that. The withdrawal of the om
the order to me suggests they don't. Because Bravado aside
Trump's political capital is thin. Gallop is Trump's approval rating
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at forty seven percent, That is about ten points beneath
Joe Biden in January.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Both in his first and his second terms, he entered
office with approval ratings below that of any other president
in the modern era. And so I thought these defenses
of Trump's firings were telling.
Speaker 9 (06:03):
It is the belief of this White House, in the
White House Council's office, that the president was within his
executive authority.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
The law says he's supposed to thirty days.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Notice, he didn't do that. Do you violate the law?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, technically, do you believe that it's legal?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
My definition, it's his administration.
Speaker 9 (06:20):
They work for him at the pleasure of the president,
and if it's illegal, it should be legal.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So then ask yourself, why isn't Trump trying to make
it legal? There is a reason Trump is doing all
this through executive orders run submitting these same directives as
a legislation to.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Pass through Congress.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
A more powerful executive could convince Congress to eliminate the
spending he opposes, or to reform the civil Service to
give him the powers of hiring and firing.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
That he seeks, and there's a good reason to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
To write these changes into legislation would make them both
more durable and would allow him to argue their merits
in a more strategic way. He'll be performing the entire system.
The Republicans at the moment, they have only a three seat.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Edge the House.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Smallest majorities is a great depression. They have a fifty
three seat majority in the Senate. Trump is obviously doing
nothing to reach out to Democrats. If Trump tried to
pass this agenda's legislation, it would fail and that would
make Trump look weak, and Trump Trump doesn't want to
look weak. He remembers John McCain humiliating him in his
first term by casting the deciding vote against Obamacare appeal.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Congress is a place where you can lose.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
What Trump wants you to see. And all this activity
is command what is really and all this activity is chaos.
They have convinced themselves its speed and force is a
strategy unto itself that it is in a sense or
replacement for an actual strategy for thinking and talking things through,
for consultation, for planning things out.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Don't believe them.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I had a conversation a couple months ago with someone
who knows how the federal government works about as well
as anyone alive, and.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Asked him what would worry him most if he saw
Trump do it it.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
What he said was he would worry most if Trump
went slowly, if he began his term by doing things
that made him more popular that made his opposition weaker
and more confused. If he worked by stealth, if he
tried to build strength for the midterms while slowly expanding
his powers and shipping away at the state in the
places where it was weakest, where people couldn't really see
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him doing it. But Trump didn't do any of that,
instead muzzle velocity. And so the opposition to Trump, which
seems so listless and absent after the election, now it's
beginning to arouse itself.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
There's a subreddit for federal employees.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Where one of the top posts reads, this non buyout
really seems to have backfired.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I'll be honest.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Before that email went out, I was looking for any
way to get out of this fresh hell. But now
I'm fired up to make these goons as frustrated as possible.
As I write this, it's been uploaded more than thirty
nine thousand times, and civil servant after civil servant is
echoing the initial sentiment. In Iowa, this week, Democrats flipped
the state Senate seat in a district that Trump had
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won easily in twenty twenty four. The attempted spending freeze
give Democrats their voice back as he zeroed in on
the popular programs Trump had imperiled. Trump isn't building support here,
He's losing it. Trump isn't fracturing his opposition, He's finally
uniting it. This is the weakness of the strategy that
Bannon proposed and that Trump is following. It is a
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strategy that forces you into overreach. To keep his own flooded,
you have to keep acting, You have to keep moving,
You have to keep creating new cycles of outrage or
fear to keep the media and the opposition overwhelmed. But
then you overwhelm yourself. They are flooding their own zone.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Trump sees his own fork in the road coming. He
may believe he's a power he is claiming. That would
be a mistake on his part.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
It would be a self deception that could doom his presidency.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
But the real threat is if he convinces the rest
of us to believe he has power he does not
have the first two weeks of his.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Presidency have not shown his strength.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
He is trying to overwhelm you. He is trying to
keep you off balance. He is trying to convince you
of something that isn't true. Don't believe him.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people. The people have had a belly full
of it.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Mega media?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
If that answer is to save my country, this country.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Will be saved. Worry yo, Stephen K.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Bath Welcome, It's Thursday, sixth February, Year of Our Lord
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Want to play that from measure client.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Right there, they understand flood the zone and how they're
trying to combat it by focus, focus, focus. They're still
getting overwhelmed and they will continue to be overwhelmed because
President Trump is taking actions in every different vertical and
pushing the and pushing the envelope. Here later have Ben
Berkwam and Benson on about the deportations effort and going
after the cartel's effort.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
President Trump also signs our Pam BONDI.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I think he signs an executive order with Pam Bonnie's
going to hit up a task force to make sure
the government does not have any anti Christian bias.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
And that's gonna be quite interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
But today we're getting a beatback in federal court. President Trump,
then I think put the entire USAID on leave. There's
a lot going on to I have Natalie. Is Natalie
up at the Is she up at the White House?
Speaker 7 (12:03):
Shut? We're trying to get this up. Okay, can we
go there?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Not?
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Fine, I'll keep I'll keep it right here. We're good.
There we go, Natalie.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So you heard the open right there.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
They understand the flood the zone strategy.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
They're trying to fight back a lot of this is
taking place in federal court. Of course, all of your
embeds in the federal government or fighting back and leaking
folks should understand this is the White House has got
pedaled down.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
In no break. Things are coming out everything.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
President Trump gave a great a brief to the press
on his populous tax cuts. We'll get to that, Natalie,
give us a sense of the White House. How's it going,
and particularly on the resistance, ma'am to flood the zone.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
Yes, well, I'm always honored to sit in that press
briefing room and have a front row seat not just
to the press briefings, but more importantly to the resistance,
which of course is I think the bedrock of it
becoming more and more each day the mainstream media. Before
we get into all the lawsuits, I guess we should
say the law fair I just want to give I
guess it's a little bit of an exclusive. Put our
audience inside the room. As I was getting ready to
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come out here and do this hit. I have to
say it was really, I mean, from my perspective, a
glorious feeling going on in that press briefing room. But
every single mainstream media journalist looked so dejected. I was
listening to their conversations. They're all so tired. They're like,
I don't even know how to cover this. I think
the quote of the day has to be it's just
all dismantling.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
It's dismantling everything.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
And I wanted to turn to him and say, well, yes, exactly,
and that's what the American people elected President Trump to do.
But in terms of pushing back against this dismantling, getting
into the serious stuff, I think today, I think last
night was really the most intense I've ever seen MSNBC
really engage with the resistance, even saying that word which
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sort of wasn't really spoken out loud ah that often
saying it explicitly. And that's because today on various verticals
you've seen the lawfare that.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
They've been planning and pooling for a while sort of
come to fruition.
Speaker 9 (14:06):
Obviously, we hit the Department of Labor lawsuit earlier today,
keeping dose kind of preemptively out of their hair. Obviously,
Treasury with the exception of two individuals having read only
access to what's going on up in Treasury with Scott Bessn't.
That was what we covered this morning, but since then
about an hour before we came to air the infamous
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buyout offer right the fork in the road email, a
district judge here in DC, a Clinton appointee, stepped in
and essentially said that we won't be able to.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Roll that out. They're going to have an additional hearing
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Natalie, hang on one second, We're going to take a
short commercial if you're going to come back the resistance
in federal court with certain administrative judges, President Trumps still
keeping the pedal down, sending executive orders, taking executive actions
all next in.
Speaker 10 (14:56):
The war room, Austin has put a temporary stop on
President Trump and Elon Musk's attempt to buy out the
federal workforce, ruling that both the administration and the labor
unions who brought this suit need more time to brief
their arguments, meaning that until next hearing. The next hearing,
which is by the way, schedule for Monday, all employees
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who may have taken the buyout must be told the
offer is blocked until at least next week.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
There are still major.
Speaker 10 (15:26):
Questions though, about what's going to happen after that. First,
and foremost, whether the offer is legal, but also even
if it is whether the government has the money to
fund the buyouts. After all, Congress has not allocated any
money for that purpose, and there is still a looming
fight over a shutdown.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
One of the members of the engine room just said, Hey,
look what Trump's is kind of blitzkrieg. It's to overwhelm
and develop and continue to move on, not stop bang
bang bank. Natalie, and these people are smart, and they're
particularly using what they've got, which is media, which has
been a little bit overwhelmed, but also to use the
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courts now and to use your brilliant term, the in
beds that infests as government. Of the two and a
half million civilian I think we got forty thousand, was
it forty thousand takes on the buyout?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Was that the number?
Speaker 9 (16:28):
I think it was about two percent of the entire workforce.
I think we need to add at least another zero
to that. I guess maybe. Hey, the silver lining of
postponing this till bunday is that I guess more people
can sign on.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
But to go back to this concept of embed.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
Steve, because I think that really gets to the heart
of it, right, the concept of civil society, but most
importantly civil service and civil servants at that right. That
was sort of the cornerstone of their resistance since they
lack any institutional power right now. And the group that
actually sued to stop this fork in the Road email
memo and was actually Democracy Forward, the group that we've
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been talking about extensively, the consortium of over two hundred
resistance type groups. You got the ACLUS, the splcs, every
know woke group that exists under the sun and probably
is receiving your tax payer to dollars. But they all
represent and basically could create this group called Democracy Forward.
But remember the first step that they took when they
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set up this new group was to create something called
Civil Service Strong And it was a very activist approach
I always described as a sort of the impeachment that
could have been.
Speaker 11 (17:36):
Right.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
They were constructing federal service, federal servants to basically become whistleblowers.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
How they could best.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Do that, how they could best file lawsuits themselves citing discrimination.
And I think, frankly, Steve, the best and most interesting,
frankly insightful part of the whole Democracy Forward operation is
that one of their board members was actually a DOJ career,
your civil servant under both Biden and President Trump in
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the Voting Rights Division. And I think that that speaks
to the concept of embed with rather metaphorical significance. That
the same guy who wants to now make the case
that all of these civil servants are not doing anything
to oppost President Trump's legislative agenda, well that's now the
very same guy who's on the board of the organization
suing President Trump for trying to rid his administration of
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people just like him. But I will say a bright
spot today. Obviously there was a lot of outrage. I
was going to say media outrage, but I think not
from the outlets that are just a few feet away
from me, because they're all on the take from USAID.
But President Trump ordered a GSA to rescind any federal
funding subscriptions or otherwise going to outlets, including, but not
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limited to because they're investigating a politico, the BBC and.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
The New York Times.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
So maybe that's why they are the long faces in
that press briefing room.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Talk about the morale the White House, I mean, these
folks are working now seven days a week, eighteen hour days.
I understand the euphorier when you first get there, the intensity,
but they're under onslaught. They're getting, you know, getting the
bad looks from the media, and as you know, the
right White House Briefing Room, which is still right there,
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it's not moved over to EOB, is right in the
middle of things. What's the energy you're seeing from EOB
and from the West wing, what's the energy, the intensity?
Speaker 7 (19:32):
How are we doing.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Well?
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Frankly, I think Doze needs to get to work in
the press briefing room, but I'll leave.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
That aside for a second. Look. I think that what
it has come down to, Obviously they have embeds.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
They've done the burrowing in of all the civils or
the presidential appointments under President Biden, turning them into career
civil servants. They've tried to mount the best resistance that
they can. But unfortunately, and you know, we are not
shall we say sunshine soldiers are soldiers here in the
war room. We call shots, we call balls and strikes
every person for the most part, you know, there's always
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some issues. But who has been appointed under President Trump.
I think, particularly at the Department of Justice, has been
an absolute killer. And I think that there's if you
really get down to it, a certain level of agency
and autonomy that a lot of these individuals have in
terms of feeling comfortable to actually push back and carry
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out their own mandate that I think if you really
get to the core of it, much like the resistance,
is very systemic, well thought out, and well planned. I
know you aren't allowed to say the words Project twenty
twenty five, but this is a resistance, a sort of
pro Trump resist, since that's been being planned for a
very very long time, right, we had four years to
plan this, and I think what you're seeing is execution,
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And I know the commshop has been working over time
to really message and push back against a lot of
the sneers coming from the main shod media. I think
one point an example that really showcases this is that
the mainstream media is trying to take a bunch of
laps and dunk not just on the White House, but
on the sort of you know X Brigade, saying that, oh, well,
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some of the grants that you guys have identified, they're
actually not coming from USAID, but rather they're coming.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
From the State Department.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
And I think that that logic Steve actually proves why
President Trump's federal funding freeze needs to be implemented, because
it's not just usaid. There is something rotten within the
entirety of this government. And I think President Trump and
like I said, the Twitter researchers, the Twitter investigators, the
DOGE people are really getting to the bottom of it,
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and it really is firing on all cylinders. And like
I said, Steve, the real tell I wish the audience.
I would do anything I could to bring you guys
inside that room with me.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
They're in absolute meltdown. I believe.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
I heard everyone say, I can't believe it's not Friday yet.
I can't believe the week's not over. It feels like
we've been here for months. It feels like this is
the longest week ever. It's just about dismantling. How do
we cover it? And then another quote, I don't think
that you know, the people want to read about all
these stories about these random agencies being shut down, And
I was like, no, we do, and we're going.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
To well, this is what deconstruction, administrative state is, right,
they're seeing it right now. They did end this man
linked I think going through I know, but I think
going through and looking at the numbers and what Elon
is doing in that regard is very powerful, and obviously
with USAID and others. I'll talk in a little while
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about I think we got to start getting serious about
where we're going to have the big cuts because the
fourteenth of March is not going to go away, and
that's when the government runs out of money. Last thing
before I let you go, Ezra Kline. This thing is
going super viral on the left with the Indivisible Group,
Democracy Forward, the media. They feel Ezra Cline's giving them
a way forward, particularly that Trump really doesn't have any power.
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He has the projection of power and if they just pick,
if they don't go after it everything. As we keep saying, here,
focus his power, focus his power, they're trying to say
the same mantra to pick and choose where you fight Trump.
Do you believe that as you see it, the left
is the left is picking that up right now?
Speaker 9 (23:14):
Kind of sounds like the foil to Curtis Yarvin, you know,
I don't necessarily I can't put myself in the mindset.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Or the shoes of the resistance types.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
But as someone who has read I think every pamphlet
available in terms of what they're telling their audience, I
attend all their town halls. I watch all of the
rhetoric that they're putting out there. I think, truly, Steve,
part of it is cope, right. They need the idea
that what they can do actually has some effect, and
I think up until yesterday, their efforts to push back
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through the media, we're really not all that successful.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
I think today they've started to.
Speaker 9 (23:48):
See some legal and lawfare victories, albeit temporary, right, They're
not the permanent injunctions that they're pushing forse So we'll
see how that works out when President Trump's team actually
is the opportunity.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
To push back.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
But this mindset of civil society, I think the biggest lie,
frankly Steve being pushed on sort of the grassroots left
right now is that they actually have a voice in
the resistance movement because this is something.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
That's not happening right.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
That's sort of the I think juxtaposition of our show
versus the left wing grass roots right. Our resistance is
driven by the people who view this show, and it's
against the party elites. Democrat resistance is driven by the
party elites, oftentimes against their own grassroots, but the grassroots
what they want to see come from the party the
more populous left wing stuff they're never going to get.
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So they're sort of fighting for a pyrrhic victory, right,
they're only fighting to make democratic power. Brokers and elites
kind of have that institutional power. It's the people like
Normalize and it's the Victorian Newlance, it's the regime change
people who.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Are really focused on this.
Speaker 9 (24:50):
And frankly, Steve, I don't even think the paradigm, much
like you always say, is necessarily democrat republican. You're talking
about usaid, You're talking about an existential threat not just
to Democra.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
But to this sort of just neo con for lack.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Of a better world word, world order that in the
same way, it's sure it's the Soros groups too, but
it's also the International Republican Institute that thinks that we
need to be the world's policeman. So it's an interesting
thing that we're definitely going to be tracking here. But
I think the audience just needs to remember groups like
Indivisible Democracy, Forward, Democracy twenty twenty five and of course
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Democracy Docket, Mark Elias's group, These are what we need
to be focusing on. Don't get lost with the shiny
toys that's the hotbed of resistance.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Natalie' very proud of the work you're doing.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
The one person's kind of trying to coordinate all this
and see it's just amazing.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
So where do people go for your social media?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Man?
Speaker 9 (25:44):
Natalie, do you enters on all social media platforms? Thank
you for having me and thank you to the audience
for letting me stand inside that really depressed briefing room.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
So great.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
They're depressed for They're depressed for all the right reasons, ma'am.
Deacon Rrecking in the administrative state, Natalie Winners at the
White House, want to thank Real America's Voice.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Want to thank President Trump's and White House Comm's team.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Want to thank Susie Wilds, the Chief of Staff for
everybody for making that available.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
I think we're making good use of it. Mike Davis
is going to join us.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I want to make sure that we understand the legal
the chop blocks they're coming after us. And also Cash
Patel a little drama there today with Cash. Some great
news on an executive order to make sure there's no
bias of Christianity.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Are Christians in the government.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Catherine O'Neil worked at the State Department trying to get
her on to talk about that.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
That was her line of work. Birch Gold.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
President put in a populous tax policy this afternoon.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
You're going to love him.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
We're not all the way there, but man, he has
really thrown down hard birch Gold dot com slash Bannon
go check it out today.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Talk to Philip Patrick and the team like Davis.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Next, here's your host, Stephen k Back.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Okay, President Trump's tax policies. I'll get that tweet here
in a second, or the true people have been tweeting
it out. Basically, President Trump reconfirm no tax on tips,
no tax on overtime, no tax on social Security.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
He's going to do away with carried interest. He's going
to do it.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
With any kind of tax breaks for bonairs on sports teams.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
It's pretty powerful.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
More about manufacturing, tax breaks for manufacturing here, pretty incredible.
Great first start, I mean pushing this through in the
big one was no tax on Social Security, which means
we've got to all the doers out there, time now
to stop failing and trying to change the subjects. Where
(27:55):
are your cuts? We need to do. What we need
to do is to tree and dollars. You promised us.
So where are they. Maybe they're south of the Potomac.
I think they might be in the Pentagon, some of them,
and some of them may be in SpaceX.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Just saying we're we get to all that a little later.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Mike Davis, lawfair, legal, the Block, and President Trump, so
just give an objective. They're hitting us with lawsuits everywhere,
state level, federal level. What's working and what's not and
what's the mindset we have to have to power through
to power through these lawsuits.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
President Trump ran on a campaign up bringing this much
needed reform to Washington, DC, including cutting wasteful spending, ending
the weaponization of intellegencies and law enforcement, ending discrimination against
women and girls in sports and in locker rooms, against
(28:58):
the anti Christian bias. Trump is delivering on what the
American people elected him to do, and he is using
his Article to power under the Constitution to do this.
And so the people who don't like this are running
to these activist judges and getting temporary restraining orders and
(29:20):
preliminary and junctions.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
To stop this.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
And I would advise the Trump Justice Department to move
forward boldly and aggressively and seek expedite it review by
the appellate courts and use the emergency docket at the
Supreme Court aggressively if you have to for these activist
judges who are trying to stop the President from asserting
(29:46):
his article to power.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Let me give you an example.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
We had a judge, a Reagan appointed judge in the
DC District Court, Judge royce Landberth, who was a pain
in the ass.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
On January sixth.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
These this old, decrep it judge who barely can walk,
as Julie Kelly will talk about.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
He should just step down from the bench.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
He issued an injunction I think it was yesterday saying
that that it's cruel and unusual punishment on the under
the eighth Amendment to the Constitution to not give prisoners
their transgender pills and surgeries, which is just absolutely insane.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
And that's it's the it's.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
These activist judges, whether it's left wing judges appointed by
Obama or Biden, or these washed up, weak Republican judges
from our from a prior era.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
We we cannot tolerate this.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
We need to get uh, these appellate courts to step
up and slap down these activist judges with their nationwide
injunctions which I don't understand how who are how are constitutional?
And get the Supreme Court again to step in on
the emergency docket if we have to.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Okay, hang for one second, I want to are you
saying you want the Justice Department that you're going to
see active as judges all over at the first line,
at the district level. You want the Justice Department now
to extradite and go above that to Appellate Court. Let's
get some rulings on this and just clear the path, right,
just clear the path and get back to that.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
Is that your recommendation.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Absolutely aggressively seek emergency relief from the Appellate Court's emergency
relief from the Supreme Court of the United States on
the emergency docket. And I would say at the Article
three projects, I am so sick of the d C
District Court. I'm disgusted by it. I'm disgusted by what
they did to these January sixth defendants. So we're going
(31:42):
to come up with legislation at the Article three project
to reign in the DC District Court, this DC District
Court that politically persecuted January sixth defendants, This DC District
Court that's put a seventy five year old Christian in
prison under the Face Act. This DC dishc court that
politicized and weaponized our justice system to go after Trump.
(32:06):
This is unacceptable and these DC District Court judges need
to get reined in. There needs to be oversight by
the House and Senate Judiciary Committee, Oversite Committee, Appropriation Committee,
and we need to pass legislation to take away the power,
to take away the jurisdiction, to take away the power
from these DC District Court judges. They are a bunch
(32:27):
of partisan activists from again from Obama or Biden or
they are weak, feckless Republicans, and it's unacceptable and there
needs to be consequences, and we're going to push very
hard at the Article three Project for that to happen.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
On another topic, you're the Article three project because you
deal with the courts. As you look at this, given
the U clerk for Gorsage, as you look at this,
on anything you've seen Doge doing today, and look, Elon's
out there and I want him to focus more on
real cuts, but he's doing his line diagram for the system.
(33:06):
He's trying to lay these guys guys everywhere and then
you got President Trump doing executive orders, and Mike Johnson
looks like he's agreeing with him. He's Speaker of the House,
John Thune. Seems like the Senate's fine with it. Do
you see any constitutional conflict between the Article one powers
and the Article two powers of the executive branch as
(33:28):
you see it right now, Any real, any real kind
of conflict or crisis.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
No.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
I mean, Congress has the power to legislate, and the
President under Article two has the power to faithfully execute
our laws, and he has to take care that they
are executed and in an appropriate way. And when you have,
for example, a federal agency like USAID that is subverting
our national security interest, that's funding BLM right through the
(33:59):
Tide Foundation goes to BLM so they can do their riots.
That's funding our enemies abroad. That's a big problem in
the president. When you're dealing with an agency that has
a foreign policy of implications, then the president has more
power as commander in chief to do more than he
does with domestic agencies. So I am all in on
(34:22):
cutting wasteful government spending and.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Doing it in any way that you legally can do it,
because it's.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Refreshing to finally have a Republican administration that's not part
of the uniparty that actually wants to go in and
cut spending in Washington, d C. Republicans have been talking
about doing this for decades. New Gangers tried it back
in nineteen ninety eight. They tried it for a couple
of years, and then Republicans went back to being big
(34:53):
spending drunken sailors with the Democrats. And it's nice to
have an attitude adjustments with President Trump, this time cutting
in and actually trying to take a hammer to these
government agencies. For example, the New York Times is reporting
that USAID. This is breaking news that USAID, which has
(35:13):
ten thousand employees, the Trump administration, according to three sources,
is looking to cut that down from ten thousand to
two hundred and ninety employees.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
So those are the types.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
Of things the Trump administration can do to rein in
these out of control agencies that are wasting hundreds of
billions of dollars of American taxpayer money every year.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
The other thing that's breaking right now he has said
that they're putting all of the all of the USAID
I think on leave on temporary leave. Can the executive
branch in the unified theory theory of the executive does
he have the power one to basically send him on
some sort of temporary leave?
Speaker 7 (35:57):
Number two?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Does he have the powers he have to go back
to Congress in the appropriations process?
Speaker 7 (36:02):
Does he have the power to go from ten thousand
to two hundred ninety?
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Sir, Well, it's amazing. For four years these federal bureaucrats.
Five years, these federal bureaucrats through a fit and got
to work from home because of COVID, and then President
Trump brings them back to work and they're throwing a
fit that they get brought back to work. And now
President Trump's going to send these USAID people back home
and they're crying again.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
So I'm not sure one which way they want to go.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Do they want to come into the office and work
or do they want to stay home?
Speaker 6 (36:33):
But does President Trump have that power? Sure?
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Under Article two of the Constitution, the president runs the
executive Branch. He's the head of the executive branch, and
he gets to hire and fire people. And statutes that
prevent the president from hiring and firing federal Executive Branch
employees are unconstitutional under Article two of the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
This a lot of this is pushing towards empowerment. Do
you think that pay a letter or somebody at OMB
we just want to get on with it, because this
is about the President saying, Hey, I understand there's a
preparations process.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
I understand that's a law. Understand that's a statute. But
that's a ceiling.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
And if that's the ceiling, I'm the chief executive of
the government by the Constitution. If IDM that the program
is not hitting, is not doing what we're supposed to do,
I can go in and take that. I can go
say there's no more degreen new scam or no more
USAID and there's thirty billion dollars around, I can lay
my hands on that and do something else with it,
or just have it pay down the deficit. Do you
(37:32):
think that pay a letta and vote and others? Maybe
the White House counsel or people over at DOJ ought
to start teeing up and let's go for let's go
force the empowerment issue right now.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
I love Mark Payoletta and I love russ votes.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
This empowerment thing got President Trump impeached on the first
term so what the hell, let's do it again, Let's
get them impeached for the third time. But you know,
I mean, if you think about it, think about what
the opposition to this is saying, you had what one
hundred and eighty billion dollars go to Ukraine and Zolensky.
And Zolensky said, well, I didn't get one hundred billion
dollars of that one hundred and eighty billion dollars. So
(38:08):
where the hell did that hundred billion dollars go? And
if the president doesn't have the article to power to
take care that one hundred billion dollars is not sent
to an oligarch's rats nest, then we might have a problem.
Under our constitution, the president has a constitutional obligation to
take care that the laws are faithfully executed, and that
(38:30):
includes appropriations by Congress. And if these appropriations are being misspent,
if there's fraud, then the president has a duty to
make sure that doesn't happen.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
We talked about this on Friday.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
It was happening, what happened to the FBI on the
J six investigation, what happened.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
At a DOJ with the laying off of these some.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Of these prosecutors I talked to you about, Hey, do
you think they're going to try to come back and
get another day with Cash? It turns out today instead
of coming in for a vote, they went in in
high dungeon and said we have to kick it a week.
We need more investigation, and Derwan and these guys want
to go next week.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
What is your.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Assessment of where we stand in the process with Cash Pateel.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
I was the chief counsel for nominations on the Senate
Judiciary Committee in the first term for President Trump. Chairman
Chuck Grassley, my former boss, is the perfect person to
lead President Trump's Justice Department nominees and judges through the
process like he did the first time. Cash Battel, as
we know, is a controversial pick. He says Mike Davis
(39:35):
level stuff when he goes on his podcast, and Chuck
Grassley has got him through this Senate Judiciary Committee process unscathed, right.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
And so what happened is the.
Speaker 8 (39:47):
Democrats wanted to open up another hearing like they always do.
Chuck Grassley told them no appropriately and with this one
week holdover, this is routine. I know people are freaking
out about this today and this is part of the
Senate Judiciary Committee rules that nominees go get nominated. They
have pre pre hearing stuff that they have to do, paperwork, they.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Have to submit, meetings they have to do.
Speaker 8 (40:12):
They have their hearing, which we did two wednesdays ago
with Cash Betel, and then they have written questions after
their hearing which Cash has responded to and submit it.
Then you have two markup meetings where they debate the nomination.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
The first one they.
Speaker 8 (40:28):
Debate generally they hold over the nominee for another week,
which they just did today, and then they had the
mark the committee vote, the markup vote the following which
which following week, which they'll do next Thursday.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
This is all routine.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
Chuck Grassley has this under control and Cash Betel will
be our next FBI director because of the grassly strong support.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Mike quick break, I want to bring you back for
a minute about the Christian Executive Order the next.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Hugh's your host, Stephen k Bat.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Mike Davi is so over it with Pam Bondi DJ.
She's gonna be charge of a task force to go
through and see if there's any bias or any prejudice
against Christians and Christianity in the federal government.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
How in your mind, how would that work?
Speaker 11 (41:21):
Well?
Speaker 8 (41:21):
President Trump issued in an executive order today calling on
these agency heads to establish a working group, and Pam's
gonna share. The Attorney General, Pam Bondi is going to
share that working group. And their job is to root
out this anti Christian bias that we have throughout our
executive branch. It's so pervasive they don't even try to
(41:43):
hide it. And they're going to make clear that Christians
are welcomed into the public square and any anti Christian
bias is going to be eliminated immediately and dealt with appropriately.
The war on Christians, and frankly, the war on Christians
and Jews is over under the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Mike Article three now more than ever, we got to
get up the second round of nominations that coming. We
got a huge tractor pulling froms because they're slowing everything down.
Russ vote, his vote tonight's not going to come until later.
You've got cash obviously in all the second and thirdier
people that really make things run. Where do they go
for Article three? And how do they sign up for
(42:28):
your program?
Speaker 8 (42:29):
Article three? Project dot org? Article number three, Project dot org.
You can donate there. You can follow us on social media.
The most important thing the War Room Posse does is
take action, and it's up on your screen right now.
We have Cash Betel, we have RFK, we have Tolci,
We're going to have Todd blanche Is the Deputy Attorney General,
Harmeet Dylan to head the Civil Rights Division, Gail Slater
(42:53):
to run the Anti Trust Division. President Trump is bringing
in bold, fearless reformers, and these senators have gotten an
attitude adjustment from the War Room Posse. We've done nearly
two hundred thousand contacts to our home state senators and
we're getting President Trump's nominees across the finish line, including
(43:15):
Pete Hegseth, Pam.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
Bondi, and others.
Speaker 8 (43:17):
We're going to keep going at the Article three project
until every one of these nominees is confirmed. And we're
going to be with President Trump at the Article three
Project with the War Room Posse every second of every
day for the next four years.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
Hey man, social media.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Late at night, your Twitter feed is enlightening's.
Speaker 8 (43:40):
You can go to m r D DMI a m
R D DMIA and That's where I'm coming in hots,
particularly after nine pm.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
I don't know what happens to me. Then I turn
into a monster.
Speaker 7 (43:54):
I don't know what happens to you either.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
I think the smoking lamp may be let I have
no idea, but it's enlightening on the dark night of
the soul. Let's say that, Mike Davis, we love you, brother,
Thank you, thank you So Lindell, what does it tell
us that the President of the United States, I want
to think about this for a second. The President of
the United States, in a nation that was formed as
(44:19):
the New Jerusalem, has to sign on the sixth of
February and the year of Our Lord twenty twenty five,
has to sign an executive order that says, a working
group of department heads and led by the Attorney General
of these United States underneath him, kind of his deputy
chief Law enforcement officer, to make sure they go through
(44:41):
a six and a half treeon dollar federal government and
spending and probably eighty doll one hundred trellion dollars in
assets in every aspect of American life with ten million employees, right,
they have to go through to make sure they rid it.
They rid itself and report back to him on the
US against Christians and Christianity.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
Was it to you, sir, Well, I'm living in Steve.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Let's start. I'm gonna have Pam BONDI I hope she's watching.
Speaker 11 (45:08):
Start with Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Attacking a Christian recovery network, the Lindell Recovery Network.
Speaker 11 (45:17):
Steve, they're going all in attacking that, and for what
Because we want to help addicts and people in addiction
get to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I mean, start with that guy. You can't you can't
make this stuff.
Speaker 11 (45:30):
Up why Christians are targeted, and go and praise the
Lord that we have a great president that's going to
address this because he.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Once we said it earlier today on the show This Morning.
Speaker 11 (45:43):
You guys, we're in a spiritual battle of evil versus good,
of historical biblical proportions.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
We're in the greatest time to be alive because we're
living it.
Speaker 11 (45:53):
We're the ones that are going to be pushing through
and helping get rid of get We know how it ends.
Good wins in the end, and he is going to
go down. But Steve, I lived that with Keith Ellison.
What has been horrific these last couple of months as
he's attacked my Lindell Recovery.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Network, a Christian network. It's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Real quickly, Mike, your fight against Ellison is getting epic proportions.
And they're trying to shut down the Christian network. That's
what they're trying to do, his recovery network. They're trying
to shut it down.
Speaker 7 (46:25):
What he got for us. As far as deals go,
at the end of the day, well, you guys.
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in the White House and President Trump. She was everywhere
on the campaigns in the White House, she over the
State Department, worked this problem every day, this bias against
(48:15):
Christianity and Christians. She's going to join us also, Ben
Berkwam and Todd Bensman. Todd Bensman got working on pieces
right now about the kinetic activity that might come to
the cartels. What is it really going to take to
stop fentno All? And was President Trump prepared to do?
Also the Mexican president and Ben Berkwom the ice raids,
(48:38):
Where are we going? Where we headed? And how are
you going to get ten million people out of here?
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