April 18, 2025 • 38 mins
Comedian Margaret Cho has been doing comedy in her dreams since she was a little girl, and now, she's fulfilling her passion all while cutting 72 animals' nails a week! She's taking the mic over to discuss her Live & Livid tour, why she's obsessed with Chris Fleming, and why she's making music in hopes of beating dementia.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey everyone, I'm Margaret Show and I'm hosting today's episode
of Rogue Energy. For those who don't know, I'm a comedian, actor, musician,
and advocate, and I've spent my career using my voice
to light the way for others. You might have seen
me as Aaron, the mom in Fire Island, Doctor Odyssey,
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or the Flight Attendant or Netflix is Outstanding a comedy revolution.
So I've done a lot of things and I'm excited
to talk to you today. So let's get into today's episode.
How do you think your comedy has evolved over the years.
It's evolved so much as comedy has evolved. I mean,
are there things you wouldn't joke about now that you
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would have in the past or vice versa. I don't know.
I mean I think that I've always really talked about
the same thing. I've always talked about my identity. I've
talked about being an Asian American. I've talked about being queer,
being a woman, and all of these things, you know,
Like for me, it's about reflecting myself out there. I
think because what was so different when I started in
the nineteen eighties is that there were no other Asian
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American women comedians, and so I was the only one
doing what I was doing, and so my identity was
a kind of currency. It was like a thing that
I could spend time on, spend attention on, spend awareness about,
and people were excited to see it because I was
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just so different. And I think, even though now that
there are quite a few other Asian American voices and
queer voices and women's voices out there in comedy, there's
still in need to hear us. They're still in need
now more than ever to hear us. So I don't
know if there are things that I would do differently
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than I did back then, or I think that nowadays
I would have more of a sensitivity and awareness when
talking about other people's lives that I'm not living, you know,
whether that's just any other race, whether that's any other gender. Well,
I don't know about that. I think I have a
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really good time talking about men and what I think
they should be doing, but other experiences that I'm not,
I'm not trans, I'm not you know, living that life.
So I think if I were commenting on trans lives,
I would make an effort to really be courteous about it.
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And sensitive about it and really thoughtful about it. So
when I'm talking about an experience that I'm not living
with the exception of this white male, I have a
very keen eye to want to deal with the subject
with sensitivity, compassion, and grace, grace that I would hope
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that somebody that was talking about me would have. So
I think that's what is maybe a little bit different,
mostly because I only came to that maybe more recently.
I've only come to that in the last twenty years,
and to me, that's still recent. So yeah, I think
that's maybe what has changed, if anything. But other than that,
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nothing's really changed. What made me want to start doing
comedy in the first place, Well, I always wanted to
do this ever since I was probably about eight years old,
Like I just knew this was my career, and I
would even have very vivid dreams about performing stand up
comedy as a child that are very similar to what
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my career is now. When I'm out there, when I'm performing,
when I'm holding the microphone and talking, I definitely feel it,
like I definitely know I've done this, done this in
my dreams, and now I've done this for forty three years.
Long time. It's very interesting to have done something for
so long and know that you were going to do
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it even before you did it. So I think I
was meant to do it. I've always wanted to do it.
I will always do it. What is the best part
about doing stand up comedy shows these days? Well, it's
really a lot of fun, especially because everybody knows what
you're talking about in that we're coming from a place
information wise, news wise, where everybody that you're doing a
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show too, in general, knows what you're referencing, whether that's
a pop culture thing, whether that's a news thing, whether
that's politics, whatever it is, everybody knows what you're talking about.
So in terms of frame of reference in what we
can joke about, there is so much variety and so
much possibility where you can make jokes where everybody's coming
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from the same place because we all have the same
information kind of pumped in through our twenty four hour
news cycle micro news that's in every hour. You know,
you have it right on your phone, and everybody's going
to know what's going on. And there are drawbacks to
that because that means you have to be certainly, very
very up on what's going on. I mean, if you're
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a topical comedian, as I like to be, you have
to be very aware of the way that news changes
and the way that things evolve. But there are certain
things that will always be relevant. I think the fight
for equality, the fight for justice, the fight for truth,
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fight towards the truth, all of these things are going
to be eternal. For me. It's always going to be
against racism, it's always going to be against homophobia, it's
always going to be against transphobia, it's always going to
be against sexism. All these things for me are always
going to be the same, so in that I don't
have to alter too much. But what do the details
do matter? And so but now, how is it a
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time to do comedy? It's a great time to do it.
I've always spoken up about big issues like race and
lgbtq A rights, And you know what drives me to
keep using my voice is now more than ever, it's more.
It's important. I mean, you think about it. We are
at war in a lot of ways. We are at
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war with homophobia, we are at war with transphobia, we
are at war with racism. We are war with this
idea that they want to erase people of color and
women from the American conversation. And so how do you
fight that, How do you fight that? You forge? Your
weapon for mine happens to be jokes. And so I'm
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trying to write jokes. And my mission is these are
the richest people in the world, and the one thing
they cannot afford is jokes at their expense. So that
is the one thing that I'm trying to do. So
that's what today keeps me using my voice and driving harder,
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you know, to fight for the queer community, fight for
the trans community, to fight for women, to fight for
Asian Americans, to fight for all people of color. You know,
It's it's at this point, like now it's like it's personal,
it's beyond personal. It's it's almost like a you know,
a calling, Like it's a soul calling. Like I feel
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very driven towards it. And I'm proud of my profession.
I'm proud to do what I do. I really enjoy it.
And so that's kind of like now I want to
ready myself for my most important work because I think
this is important. It's a freedom of speech. Let's actually
test it and see how far we can go. You
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paved the way for so many Asian American performers. What
changes have you seen in Hollywood and what still needs
to happen? Well, I have paved the way. I have
paved the way, and I'm so grateful for that because
I get and now sit back and enjoy the talents
of people like Ali Wong and Bowen Yang and Joel
Kim Booster and Akafina and Ronnie Chang and you know,
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so many incredible performers who are out there. I'm just
grateful that I was able to inspire so many amazing people,
and that is truly my greatest achievement is to have
inspired them. And what changes I've seen is a whole
generation of fine, fabulous entertainers really going out there and
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just taking this industry and creating it to their own specifications.
And I love that. I'm so grateful for that. What
still needs to happen is we still need more. We
still need more reposation, sentation all across the board, from
South Asians, from Filipidos, from Thai people, from the Vietnamese community.
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We need all sorts of voices within the Asian American
diaspora that we need to hear from everybody, and so
I would love to see more Pakistani representation. I would
love to see more South Asian in general representation. I
think there's just so much more that we are in
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terms of being Asian America, and I want to hear
and see and watch that. So, you know, there's a
lot that's been done and a lot that still needs
to happen. What advice would you give to underrepresented comedians
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trying to break into the industry, Well, just do it,
Just do it. We have lots of different ways to
break into comedy. Where you go and you do an
open mic night, that's where we all started, and every
comedy club has it, and you just go and you
just got to do it. You got to do it
every day. There's lots of different ways too. You can
be a comedian on social media. There's a lot of
people who are very six while doing that. I think
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the way that we can just do it is just
tell jokes, get out there, write as much as you can,
perform as much as you can, and it pays off.
Like it's like the constant you. You have to do
it constantly. I mean, it's a slow burn, this profession
stand up comedy. It takes a while to get the
hang of it. Like you, first, you have to do it,
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because see, if you even like it, so you may
try it. You may not like it. But the thing,
the fact is that if you meant to do it,
you'll you'll you'll you'll like it, and you'll you'll be
addicted to it and then you can't get enough. But
you just have to go and do it, and do
it and do it. And you know, a lot of
people don't kind of figure out who they are as
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a comic for at least a decade, and you know,
it's a long okay, you know, it's a long life.
I mean this is specifically talking about stand up comedy.
Other there's other forms of comedic entertainment that you can
get into that have a much shorter kind of gestation period,
I think. But stand up comedy, I think, to be
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really good takes a bit, but it's worth it. It's worth it.
I've worked with so many iconic comedians. It's true. Who
makes me laugh the most? Well, lately I'm really getting
into Chris Fleming. Like Chris Fleming I have loved for years,
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and he is in an era as a comedian where
I've just obsessed. So he is so funny in so
many ways, like the words that he chooses, the way
that he uses his body. He's very tall guy, and
I just I just adore him, and I just yeah,
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I'm really impressed. I've always been impressed by his work,
you know. I used to bring him along with me
to do shows it like in like twenty ten and
eleven twelve. So I just loved his online videos and
I was just so into him, And now is a
comedy stand up comic, like I'm just so in awe
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of what he does. I absolutely love him. I absolutely
adore Otsco Okotska. She's just a genius and always, like,
you know, just somebody that I have watched develop and
have known, but now she's so incredibly just just a rocket,
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you know, and she's just amazing to watch and also
just so cool, so cool, so funny, so fly. I
love Tignataro. Tig Nataro is the kind of comedian where
I'll just start telling Tig her jokes to her and
start laughing, and then I can't even finish because I'm
laughing so hard, like I'm laughing at myself trying to
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tell her her own like it's so dumb, and a
lot of comics that know that feeling of like when
somebody's a fan and they'll come up, dude, they'll tell
you your own jokes and they're laughing so hard it's I
do that with her. But yeah, there's so many great comedians,
but those are the ones that really tickle me. With TikTok,
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we're seeing comedians becoming overnight sensations, often not spending years
on the comedy scene doing nightclubs like you and your
peers did back then in the day. Is too much
fame too fast a bad thing if you want to
have a long career in comedy, why or why not? No?
I don't think it's a bad thing. I think the
only thing that matters in comedy clubs is if you
can sell tickets. So that's where the TikTok comedians have
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a great time. The thing is is like, what can
you do? What does what you do as a TikTok
comedian translate to the stage, And oftentimes it really really does.
So if somebody's funny, they're just funny. The thing is
is that the the real sort of development of a
stand up comedian, like you want to have that ten
years to really figure out what it is. It's one
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thing to be funny on stage. I think there's a
lot of people that can do that, but can you
do that every night in all sorts of different circumstances,
in all kinds of weather, in different kinds of audiences.
Maybe people that didn't necessarily come to see you, that
people are just there wanting to laugh, you know. So
there are so many different ways that a comedian is
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tested to really work that I think a ten year
mark is a good amount of experience to give yourself
just so that you can figure out what you like
to do as a performer. Also, so I think a
lot of these TikTok comedians, Yeah, I think it's valid.
I think it's totally great, and I welcome their appearance.
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I think it energizes the industry when you have people
coming in to the comedy club from different arenas, I
think that's really cool. So I know that a lot
of comedians have different opinions about it, but I we
any other kind of performer into a comedy club space
is I think, what a great thing. You know, we
are enlivening and enriching the environment that we work in.
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And I love it. So I welcome TikTok comedians. I'm
a big fan of quite a few of them, so
you know, I get it. Like, but I think to
understand like stand up comedy as its own art form,
it behooves you to spend time in it and to
really study it and to really figure out what it
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is that you love about it. So I mean, I
have such a love for the art form that it's
a respect that goes beyond the idea of just like
being funny or just being able to sell tickets. Like
to me, this is a very important art form that
can change society, and it has many times. So it's
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one that you can learn as you go and respect
as you go, and enjoy as you go and make
a lot of friends along the way. What are the
challenges that come with being a woman who is perceived
as bold or outspoken? You know, I don't think there's
any challenges. I mean, like who cares? Like I don't care.
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I don't care. I also have never been a pretty girl,
so it was never like something that was like offsetting,
Like my personality never offset my looks, Like I never
anybody who liked me liked me for what I was
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talking about. What I was saying, never for you know,
kind of anything else. So I never had to sort
of worry about the sort of ideas of being a
woman like or like being like the gentler, the weaker sex.
It've just never been that. So I don't know. I'm
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just very loud. I'm very direct. I'm very obnoxious that way.
But I mean, you know who cares, like I love it.
I don't care. My upcoming tour, well, I am excited.
I've been on this tour Live and Livid for a while,
and I'm excited because you know, I'm proud of the
material that I'm doing. It's hard hitting, it's raucous. It's
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what I want to be. I want to be livid.
I want to be enraged, which I am, and so
for me, that kind of comedy has a real like
cause in what's happening today, and we have just so
much to do. So I just like Live and Livid
because I like alliteration and I want to like show
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like I am like seriously here to scream. That's what
made me choose the name. I am released to do
song I also sing. I'm a musician. I play music
every day. Mostly because I try to challenge my brain
daily because I want to fight off dementia, which all
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of these really really like degenerative cognitive sort of things
like that. They say they really my family, it's bad.
We have a lot of stuff like that. So I
really try to challenge my brain a lot. And I'm
not a quiz or like scrabble person like or you know,
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word search or any of those things. Like, I'm just
not like a games person that way. So I use
instruments and learning music to kind of be my crossword.
So I do that, and I so I love to
make music. And I have a new song. It's called
Lucky Gift. I have whole album called Lucky Gift, but
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the song, which has a company video, is out. It's
been played on the radio. That was like the most
exciting thing is a few weeks ago, I was listening
to so Cal Sound, which is a radio station, very
important radio station here in LA and I heard my song,
my single on the radio, and it was so exciting.
I mean, it's just I mean, I have made I
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have made a lot of different achievements in my career,
but to be able to hear your song on the
radio it's really fucking cool, so I was very, very excited.
I love to make music. I have always made music. Actually,
I've made music for longer than I have made comedy.
I started making music at around five, the age of five,
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so I started comedy when I was fourteen. But music
has been a lifetime passion of mine. I pretty much
play everything not great. I play everything well enough to
write songs on and then I leave it to the
really good people and then I sing my heart out
and I play music shows on occasion. I'll be playing
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one on April first at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles.
So you know, playing music shows are very different from
playing comedy shows. I will play music shows but once
a month, whether it's at Largo, which is my favorite
club in Los Angeles, or someplace very prestigious like the
Grammy Museum. I will just be doing music shows here
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and there, switches too where you can catch me. But
I when I'm touring, I most mostly for the most part,
do stand up comedy, which live in Livid is all
about what are some of the funniest or weirdest things
that ever happen at a show? Well, I mean, I
think some of the weirdest things. Anything can happen because
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it's live entertainment, so you know, you can have people
sort of like interrupting and going crazy. Like one time,
like I was accidentally booked at a Republican fundraiser which
was not that is not my party, as you might guess,
and so I was doing very, very politically I guess,
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explosive material against that party, and the people were so
alarmed that I was performing that they cut my sound
and I still wouldn't stop talking. So they brought a
band on to play behind me to drown me out,
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and they started playing Sweet Home Alabama. And I was
offended because I love Skinner, and I said that later,
you know, in a talk show for something like I
talked about how much of my I love SKINNERD and
how dare you Skinner to try to drive me away
like some kind of leftist witch? And it got to
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the ears of Leonard Skynerd and they invited me to
be their guest at a show, which unfortunately I had
to also see Kid Rocket. But I love Skinner, But
that was what that was weird when I when I
was just not getting through to the audience so that
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they I would not let it go, and I would
not leave the stage and they had to bring a
band on to try to drown me out. I I
think that's probably the funniest and the weirdest thing. Who
are some comedians or artists that you love right now? Well?
I absolutely, I absolutely adore Caroline Kingsbury. She is a
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rock star. She's incredible. I just saw her perform. She's
on tour right now with Pompcom Squad, also an amazing band.
I love the band Beach Bunny. I love a soccer mommy.
I love what's happening with women's voices and rock and roll.
You know, like to me, it's like bulb up Boy
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Genius or Losey Lucy Dacas or uh Phoebe Bridger. I love,
I love all of all of what they're doing, Julian Baker.
Their their music is just so beautiful, and you know,
for me, it's I've always been drawn to women's voices
and rock and roll. The person that I collaborate with
the most, who produced my record like a Gift is
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Garrison Star, who I play with all the time. She's
in my band, but she's also an incredible, incredible, incredible artist,
And you know, she inspires me to know, and so
those are like the artists that I'm really listening to.
On other fronts, I love Kneecap. This is a very
incredibly hilarious and really I mean just some of the
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best hip hop coming out of Ireland. Really cool. I
really I really enjoy their music and I love their movie.
You know, I'm endlessly entered paid by all of these
newer artists that I see out there, and I mostly
get sort of I think, alerted to them through TikTok.
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TikTok is a passion as well, and so I'm very
lucky that I get to hear about all these new
artists and I really love them. Oh Japanese Breakfast, I'm
so in love with her, incredible and Midski. So many people,
so many people I love. What do I do to
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relax when I'm not working? Well, for me, it's all
about like just hanging out, like I love to hang out,
like my house. I love my home. I love being home.
I'm not at I'm not a I found as much
as I was of touring, like I tour extensively still,
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but I really appreciate the downtime. I really appreciate my house.
My house is like really loud inside, like because there
was always some instrument going or everything's plugged in all
the time, so I could just like walk up and
play anything. And you know, for me, like I've been
able to create like a real haven for myself with
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all these environments for me to just create. So it
is kind of working, but it doesn't feel like work
to me. To me, it feels like a joyous thing. Also,
I have a very strong meditation practice, which sort of
a lot of ways is kind of like work as well.
So I will like go down for quite a large
part of the day meditating. I think it's like the
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most sane thing that you can do. It's just like
sit there. But yeah, that sort of feeds me. I
really love to do that. I love. I love my
meditation practice. I love my animals. I love I have
three cats and a dog. You know, they are my
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whole life and and I just tend to them and
care for them and I'm always doing something with them,
so that, you know, to me is a real joy.
I have many, like hundreds of plants, some of which
are dying, but some of what are doing really well.
So you know, gardener ing, is a passion. But yeah,
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sustaining life around my house, whether it's animal life or
plant life or creative life, is all I care about.
All I do. So I grew up in San Francisco
during the seventies in the eighties, And how did that
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specific time and place shape your worldview and comedic perspective. Well,
it's very political, and I was lucky enough to have
grown up there. My parents owned a gay bookstore, like
from the nineteen seventies on, So my first gay pride
was nineteen seventy eight, and my father's employees were early
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followers of Harvey Milk, who, of course was the very
first openly gay elected official in San Francisco in the world,
and he was an incredible figure, and I think to
be witnessed to his rise and also the terrible loss
of him with his assassination, just taught me a great
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lesson about the world and how none of us are
safe no matter how applauded and lauded. Somebody can be
that hope, and also the hope for the future doesn't
die with that person. So you know, I was witnessed
to the collapse of this sort of dream of Harvey Milk.
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But also this incredible resurgence after AIDS, which the activism
around the AIDS cry was truly incredible thing to witness
and be a part of. You know, I did a
lot of AIDS fundraising for people with AIDS and people
living with AIDS in the eighties and the nineties, and
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for me that was the sort of the first involvement
with politics, and it really educated me a lot to
how we should be fighting for our rights. And you know,
I'm so grateful that my history included that to be
around so many incredible people and to be witnessed to
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the incredible resilience of the gay community, to have survived
this plague which killed us by the million, yet we
were able to emerge from that not only with our
numbers restored by new generations, but also with a political outlook.
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That was something that led to the legalization of gay
marriage in twenty fifteen, which was a very very big deal.
To go from a criminalized existence to that in this
one lifetime, you know, to be able to witness that
was so profound. So I'm very lucky to have seen that,
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which is why I fight so hard for our rights now,
because we can't lose what we fought for. We fought
for so long and so hard for all of that,
and it can't be lost because somebody doesn't like woke.
But I think that we are making our own strides.
Hopefully I plan to be fighting anyway. But yeah, So
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growing up in San Francisco during the seventies in the
eighties was incredibly important. Those formative years were all about politics,
about queerness, about learning how to fight and to be
witnessed to all of these incredible historical events, almost just
on the sidelin as a child and then as a
young young person. You know, it was really meaningful, and
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I'm glad, I'm really grateful. I have spoken candidly about
personal struggles with addiction and body image, and how has
that vulnerability on stage affected your relationship with your audience. Well,
you know, I think that when you have endured something
like having an eating disorder, which I have, at having
alcoholism and addiction, which I have, all of these things
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are important to write about as an artist. And so
what it does, too is that people recognize the feelings
that you felt, because everybody's had that. I think that
as human beings, we're all vulnerable to that experience of
these failings, and that they're not really failings. They're sort
of different kinds of diseases that you can get. Diseases
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of the mind, which is addiction, which is an eating disorder.
These are just diseases that you can catch that are
really deadly and are really devastating if you can't get
away from them. There are things that people usually die from,
and so you know, to have found a way out
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of that, it's so meaningful, and so I want to
write about it. I want to talk about it in
a way that gives other people hope. People that are
like in the middle of it, you know, we have
hope to be free from addiction if we just find
a way out. There's many ways out, also of out
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of addiction, out of eating disorders, out of there's many
ways out, as there are many ways in, unfortunately, but fortunately,
like unfortunately, there's many ways in, but fortunately there are
many ways out. And as an artist, you want to
talk about that because it really is important to share
your truth there and helpful for other people who may
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be going through the same thing. So, and it's funny.
I think it's funny. Between standing up, acting, music writing,
and fashion design. You've explored many creative avenues. Is there
an artistic medium you haven't tried yet that you'd like
to Well, I always try drawing. I'm not good at it,
and I don't stick around long enough to find out
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if I can be better at it, but it's very
entertaining to me. So yeah, I always like think, oh,
Manna draw the thing, and it never looks right. But
I do like appreciate somebody who can have this sort
of eye hand control, that that relationship between your eye
and your hand where you could really sort of like
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make something like you see it. That to me is incredible.
I could create things like I think it's like fight
what I'm making clothes. I look at it as a
sculptor and almost an architect, you know, so that you
can kind of like put things together in a way
that makes sense spatially. That's sort of what it is
making clothes kind of like kind of like sculpture. So
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I can understand that maybe better than I can like
actually like taking something pinned to paper and drawing something
that I see, Like I just don't know how to
take an image and put it on paper, but I
do enjoy the process. So yeah, there's also lots of
paper everywhere where. There's a lot of doodles and things
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and whatever. But that's one area that I haven't done.
Lucy Lose great painter, so I like her work a lot.
I think it's so cool when people do a little
something different from what we know of them, as we
know somebody as something and then they do something a
little different because we're all very multifaceted. We're all we
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contain multitudes. I've done so much in my career. What's
still on my bucket list? Well, I would like to
win an Academy Award. I would like to have an egot.
I have a oh well, I have some nominations, but
I have quite a few gramm Any nominations, and I
have an Emmy nomination, but I don't want anything, So
I would like an ecot. I think it's great, Like
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it's so exciting when people get sort of I like
a pegt where you get the Peabody also or a Pulitzer.
Peagot is great. So yeah, I think it's a fun
third of a game. But I'm like very grateful for
the nominations I've received, But yeah, I'd like to win.
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Not that winning matters as much as being nominated. Being
nominated is great because then you're like, there's the possibility
of winning, like you just as just as well could
have won. But yeah, i'd like to win. I'd like
to win, but I already have one because I have
a good time mostly doing everything. I think that's the key,
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really like to really win. Life is just having fun,
and I do. I have a really good time doing
a lot. What's something Funds would be surprised to learn
about you? Well, I am kind of a good cook,
Like I really like my cooking, and I make Thai
food and Korean food. And today, even though corn's not
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quite in season, I got optimistic because it was hot
out and I made a a lote which I'm going
to eat right after this. It smells so good. So
I'm kind of a really good cook, so you can
come over and eat. I am really good at cutting
animal nails. I cut seventy two animal nails a week,
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so I'm very good at that. I could be a
vet tech. I could be a small animal veterinarian if
I wanted to go to school to do that. But yeah,
I'm quite a homey kind of a lady. So now
we are kind of wrapping up. But what's important to
me right now, I really want to be able to
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test the balance of free speech and try to really
make it known that I am very frustrated with our
current political environment and administration and I want it to change.
And so I'm going to try to do that by
telling jokes so cross and so foul that people get
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very upset when it's directed at them. The achievement of
my career that I'm most proud of is that I'm
still here, that I'm still doing this, that I still
love what I do, and that I'm still very active,
and at fifty six, I still have a lot more
to give. I hope to do this for at least
another fifty years. I think I can. I'm pretty healthy.
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So that's my goal, is to keep doing it. Where
do I see myself in five years, Well, I hopefully
still here doing the same thing, but maybe joking about
a different administration that I like, like a different set
of people, circumstances that I like a lot more than
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what's happening now. I hope that it's a woman president,
and I hope that it's that I helped elect, and
I hope that it's an administration that I absolutely love,
but that I can still poke fun at and where
people can find me at they can find me at.
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My shows are all posted on Margaret show dot com.
It's my website where you can find tickets and dates
in anywhere I'm going to be. You can find me
on TikTok at the Margaret Show and on Instagram at
Margaret Underscore Show. I'm also on Blue Sky, which s
Marker show on the Blue Sky at the It's a
very long address, but I actually post a lot on
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Blue Sky. I think it's really good. And yeah, you
can hear my music anywhere. It's streaming my new album
it's called Lucky Gift. There's lyric videos and new music
video on YouTube. But you can also watch my comedy
on you YouTube as well. But you can hear me anywhere.
You can see me on the road, coming to a
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town near you hopefully soon. And thank you so much
for having me today. If you want to stay up
to date on what I have going on, please follow
me at Margaret Underscore Show, which we talked about on Instagram.
Follow all things Rogue Energy at Rogue Energy Podcast. Until
next time, see you, Thank you,
Hey everyone, I'm Margaret Show and I'm hosting today's episode
of Rogue Energy. For those who don't know, I'm a comedian, actor, musician,
and advocate, and I've spent my career using my voice
to light the way for others. You might have seen
me as Aaron, the mom in Fire Island, Doctor Odyssey,
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or the Flight Attendant or Netflix is Outstanding a comedy revolution.
So I've done a lot of things and I'm excited
to talk to you today. So let's get into today's episode.
How do you think your comedy has evolved over the years.
It's evolved so much as comedy has evolved. I mean,
are there things you wouldn't joke about now that you
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would have in the past or vice versa. I don't know.
I mean I think that I've always really talked about
the same thing. I've always talked about my identity. I've
talked about being an Asian American. I've talked about being queer,
being a woman, and all of these things, you know,
Like for me, it's about reflecting myself out there. I
think because what was so different when I started in
the nineteen eighties is that there were no other Asian
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American women comedians, and so I was the only one
doing what I was doing, and so my identity was
a kind of currency. It was like a thing that
I could spend time on, spend attention on, spend awareness about,
and people were excited to see it because I was
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just so different. And I think, even though now that
there are quite a few other Asian American voices and
queer voices and women's voices out there in comedy, there's
still in need to hear us. They're still in need
now more than ever to hear us. So I don't
know if there are things that I would do differently
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than I did back then, or I think that nowadays
I would have more of a sensitivity and awareness when
talking about other people's lives that I'm not living, you know,
whether that's just any other race, whether that's any other gender. Well,
I don't know about that. I think I have a
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really good time talking about men and what I think
they should be doing, but other experiences that I'm not,
I'm not trans, I'm not you know, living that life.
So I think if I were commenting on trans lives,
I would make an effort to really be courteous about it.
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And sensitive about it and really thoughtful about it. So
when I'm talking about an experience that I'm not living
with the exception of this white male, I have a
very keen eye to want to deal with the subject
with sensitivity, compassion, and grace, grace that I would hope
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that somebody that was talking about me would have. So
I think that's what is maybe a little bit different,
mostly because I only came to that maybe more recently.
I've only come to that in the last twenty years,
and to me, that's still recent. So yeah, I think
that's maybe what has changed, if anything. But other than that,
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nothing's really changed. What made me want to start doing
comedy in the first place, Well, I always wanted to
do this ever since I was probably about eight years old,
Like I just knew this was my career, and I
would even have very vivid dreams about performing stand up
comedy as a child that are very similar to what
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my career is now. When I'm out there, when I'm performing,
when I'm holding the microphone and talking, I definitely feel it,
like I definitely know I've done this, done this in
my dreams, and now I've done this for forty three years.
Long time. It's very interesting to have done something for
so long and know that you were going to do
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it even before you did it. So I think I
was meant to do it. I've always wanted to do it.
I will always do it. What is the best part
about doing stand up comedy shows these days? Well, it's
really a lot of fun, especially because everybody knows what
you're talking about in that we're coming from a place
information wise, news wise, where everybody that you're doing a
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show too, in general, knows what you're referencing, whether that's
a pop culture thing, whether that's a news thing, whether
that's politics, whatever it is, everybody knows what you're talking about.
So in terms of frame of reference in what we
can joke about, there is so much variety and so
much possibility where you can make jokes where everybody's coming
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from the same place because we all have the same
information kind of pumped in through our twenty four hour
news cycle micro news that's in every hour. You know,
you have it right on your phone, and everybody's going
to know what's going on. And there are drawbacks to
that because that means you have to be certainly, very
very up on what's going on. I mean, if you're
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a topical comedian, as I like to be, you have
to be very aware of the way that news changes
and the way that things evolve. But there are certain
things that will always be relevant. I think the fight
for equality, the fight for justice, the fight for truth,
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fight towards the truth, all of these things are going
to be eternal. For me. It's always going to be
against racism, it's always going to be against homophobia, it's
always going to be against transphobia, it's always going to
be against sexism. All these things for me are always
going to be the same, so in that I don't
have to alter too much. But what do the details
do matter? And so but now, how is it a
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time to do comedy? It's a great time to do it.
I've always spoken up about big issues like race and
lgbtq A rights, And you know what drives me to
keep using my voice is now more than ever, it's more.
It's important. I mean, you think about it. We are
at war in a lot of ways. We are at
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war with homophobia, we are at war with transphobia, we
are at war with racism. We are war with this
idea that they want to erase people of color and
women from the American conversation. And so how do you
fight that, How do you fight that? You forge? Your
weapon for mine happens to be jokes. And so I'm
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trying to write jokes. And my mission is these are
the richest people in the world, and the one thing
they cannot afford is jokes at their expense. So that
is the one thing that I'm trying to do. So
that's what today keeps me using my voice and driving harder,
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you know, to fight for the queer community, fight for
the trans community, to fight for women, to fight for
Asian Americans, to fight for all people of color. You know,
It's it's at this point, like now it's like it's personal,
it's beyond personal. It's it's almost like a you know,
a calling, Like it's a soul calling. Like I feel
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very driven towards it. And I'm proud of my profession.
I'm proud to do what I do. I really enjoy it.
And so that's kind of like now I want to
ready myself for my most important work because I think
this is important. It's a freedom of speech. Let's actually
test it and see how far we can go. You
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paved the way for so many Asian American performers. What
changes have you seen in Hollywood and what still needs
to happen? Well, I have paved the way. I have
paved the way, and I'm so grateful for that because
I get and now sit back and enjoy the talents
of people like Ali Wong and Bowen Yang and Joel
Kim Booster and Akafina and Ronnie Chang and you know,
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so many incredible performers who are out there. I'm just
grateful that I was able to inspire so many amazing people,
and that is truly my greatest achievement is to have
inspired them. And what changes I've seen is a whole
generation of fine, fabulous entertainers really going out there and
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just taking this industry and creating it to their own specifications.
And I love that. I'm so grateful for that. What
still needs to happen is we still need more. We
still need more reposation, sentation all across the board, from
South Asians, from Filipidos, from Thai people, from the Vietnamese community.
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We need all sorts of voices within the Asian American
diaspora that we need to hear from everybody, and so
I would love to see more Pakistani representation. I would
love to see more South Asian in general representation. I
think there's just so much more that we are in
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terms of being Asian America, and I want to hear
and see and watch that. So, you know, there's a
lot that's been done and a lot that still needs
to happen. What advice would you give to underrepresented comedians
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trying to break into the industry, Well, just do it,
Just do it. We have lots of different ways to
break into comedy. Where you go and you do an
open mic night, that's where we all started, and every
comedy club has it, and you just go and you
just got to do it. You got to do it
every day. There's lots of different ways too. You can
be a comedian on social media. There's a lot of
people who are very six while doing that. I think
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the way that we can just do it is just
tell jokes, get out there, write as much as you can,
perform as much as you can, and it pays off.
Like it's like the constant you. You have to do
it constantly. I mean, it's a slow burn, this profession
stand up comedy. It takes a while to get the
hang of it. Like you, first, you have to do it,
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because see, if you even like it, so you may
try it. You may not like it. But the thing,
the fact is that if you meant to do it,
you'll you'll you'll you'll like it, and you'll you'll be
addicted to it and then you can't get enough. But
you just have to go and do it, and do
it and do it. And you know, a lot of
people don't kind of figure out who they are as
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a comic for at least a decade, and you know,
it's a long okay, you know, it's a long life.
I mean this is specifically talking about stand up comedy.
Other there's other forms of comedic entertainment that you can
get into that have a much shorter kind of gestation period,
I think. But stand up comedy, I think, to be
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really good takes a bit, but it's worth it. It's worth it.
I've worked with so many iconic comedians. It's true. Who
makes me laugh the most? Well, lately I'm really getting
into Chris Fleming. Like Chris Fleming I have loved for years,
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and he is in an era as a comedian where
I've just obsessed. So he is so funny in so
many ways, like the words that he chooses, the way
that he uses his body. He's very tall guy, and
I just I just adore him, and I just yeah,
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I'm really impressed. I've always been impressed by his work,
you know. I used to bring him along with me
to do shows it like in like twenty ten and
eleven twelve. So I just loved his online videos and
I was just so into him, And now is a
comedy stand up comic, like I'm just so in awe
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of what he does. I absolutely love him. I absolutely
adore Otsco Okotska. She's just a genius and always, like,
you know, just somebody that I have watched develop and
have known, but now she's so incredibly just just a rocket,
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you know, and she's just amazing to watch and also
just so cool, so cool, so funny, so fly. I
love Tignataro. Tig Nataro is the kind of comedian where
I'll just start telling Tig her jokes to her and
start laughing, and then I can't even finish because I'm
laughing so hard, like I'm laughing at myself trying to
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tell her her own like it's so dumb, and a
lot of comics that know that feeling of like when
somebody's a fan and they'll come up, dude, they'll tell
you your own jokes and they're laughing so hard it's I
do that with her. But yeah, there's so many great comedians,
but those are the ones that really tickle me. With TikTok,
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we're seeing comedians becoming overnight sensations, often not spending years
on the comedy scene doing nightclubs like you and your
peers did back then in the day. Is too much
fame too fast a bad thing if you want to
have a long career in comedy, why or why not? No?
I don't think it's a bad thing. I think the
only thing that matters in comedy clubs is if you
can sell tickets. So that's where the TikTok comedians have
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a great time. The thing is is like, what can
you do? What does what you do as a TikTok
comedian translate to the stage, And oftentimes it really really does.
So if somebody's funny, they're just funny. The thing is
is that the the real sort of development of a
stand up comedian, like you want to have that ten
years to really figure out what it is. It's one
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thing to be funny on stage. I think there's a
lot of people that can do that, but can you
do that every night in all sorts of different circumstances,
in all kinds of weather, in different kinds of audiences.
Maybe people that didn't necessarily come to see you, that
people are just there wanting to laugh, you know. So
there are so many different ways that a comedian is
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tested to really work that I think a ten year
mark is a good amount of experience to give yourself
just so that you can figure out what you like
to do as a performer. Also, so I think a
lot of these TikTok comedians, Yeah, I think it's valid.
I think it's totally great, and I welcome their appearance.
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I think it energizes the industry when you have people
coming in to the comedy club from different arenas, I
think that's really cool. So I know that a lot
of comedians have different opinions about it, but I we
any other kind of performer into a comedy club space
is I think, what a great thing. You know, we
are enlivening and enriching the environment that we work in.
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And I love it. So I welcome TikTok comedians. I'm
a big fan of quite a few of them, so
you know, I get it. Like, but I think to
understand like stand up comedy as its own art form,
it behooves you to spend time in it and to
really study it and to really figure out what it
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is that you love about it. So I mean, I
have such a love for the art form that it's
a respect that goes beyond the idea of just like
being funny or just being able to sell tickets. Like
to me, this is a very important art form that
can change society, and it has many times. So it's
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one that you can learn as you go and respect
as you go, and enjoy as you go and make
a lot of friends along the way. What are the
challenges that come with being a woman who is perceived
as bold or outspoken? You know, I don't think there's
any challenges. I mean, like who cares? Like I don't care.
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I don't care. I also have never been a pretty girl,
so it was never like something that was like offsetting,
Like my personality never offset my looks, Like I never
anybody who liked me liked me for what I was
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talking about. What I was saying, never for you know,
kind of anything else. So I never had to sort
of worry about the sort of ideas of being a
woman like or like being like the gentler, the weaker sex.
It've just never been that. So I don't know. I'm
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just very loud. I'm very direct. I'm very obnoxious that way.
But I mean, you know who cares, like I love it.
I don't care. My upcoming tour, well, I am excited.
I've been on this tour Live and Livid for a while,
and I'm excited because you know, I'm proud of the
material that I'm doing. It's hard hitting, it's raucous. It's
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what I want to be. I want to be livid.
I want to be enraged, which I am, and so
for me, that kind of comedy has a real like
cause in what's happening today, and we have just so
much to do. So I just like Live and Livid
because I like alliteration and I want to like show
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like I am like seriously here to scream. That's what
made me choose the name. I am released to do
song I also sing. I'm a musician. I play music
every day. Mostly because I try to challenge my brain
daily because I want to fight off dementia, which all
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of these really really like degenerative cognitive sort of things
like that. They say they really my family, it's bad.
We have a lot of stuff like that. So I
really try to challenge my brain a lot. And I'm
not a quiz or like scrabble person like or you know,
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word search or any of those things. Like, I'm just
not like a games person that way. So I use
instruments and learning music to kind of be my crossword.
So I do that, and I so I love to
make music. And I have a new song. It's called
Lucky Gift. I have whole album called Lucky Gift, but
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the song, which has a company video, is out. It's
been played on the radio. That was like the most
exciting thing is a few weeks ago, I was listening
to so Cal Sound, which is a radio station, very
important radio station here in LA and I heard my song,
my single on the radio, and it was so exciting.
I mean, it's just I mean, I have made I
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have made a lot of different achievements in my career,
but to be able to hear your song on the
radio it's really fucking cool, so I was very, very excited.
I love to make music. I have always made music. Actually,
I've made music for longer than I have made comedy.
I started making music at around five, the age of five,
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so I started comedy when I was fourteen. But music
has been a lifetime passion of mine. I pretty much
play everything not great. I play everything well enough to
write songs on and then I leave it to the
really good people and then I sing my heart out
and I play music shows on occasion. I'll be playing
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one on April first at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles.
So you know, playing music shows are very different from
playing comedy shows. I will play music shows but once
a month, whether it's at Largo, which is my favorite
club in Los Angeles, or someplace very prestigious like the
Grammy Museum. I will just be doing music shows here
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and there, switches too where you can catch me. But
I when I'm touring, I most mostly for the most part,
do stand up comedy, which live in Livid is all
about what are some of the funniest or weirdest things
that ever happen at a show? Well, I mean, I
think some of the weirdest things. Anything can happen because
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it's live entertainment, so you know, you can have people
sort of like interrupting and going crazy. Like one time,
like I was accidentally booked at a Republican fundraiser which
was not that is not my party, as you might guess,
and so I was doing very, very politically I guess,
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explosive material against that party, and the people were so
alarmed that I was performing that they cut my sound
and I still wouldn't stop talking. So they brought a
band on to play behind me to drown me out,
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and they started playing Sweet Home Alabama. And I was
offended because I love Skinner, and I said that later,
you know, in a talk show for something like I
talked about how much of my I love SKINNERD and
how dare you Skinner to try to drive me away
like some kind of leftist witch? And it got to
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the ears of Leonard Skynerd and they invited me to
be their guest at a show, which unfortunately I had
to also see Kid Rocket. But I love Skinner, But
that was what that was weird when I when I
was just not getting through to the audience so that
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they I would not let it go, and I would
not leave the stage and they had to bring a
band on to try to drown me out. I I
think that's probably the funniest and the weirdest thing. Who
are some comedians or artists that you love right now? Well?
I absolutely, I absolutely adore Caroline Kingsbury. She is a
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rock star. She's incredible. I just saw her perform. She's
on tour right now with Pompcom Squad, also an amazing band.
I love the band Beach Bunny. I love a soccer mommy.
I love what's happening with women's voices and rock and roll.
You know, like to me, it's like bulb up Boy
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Genius or Losey Lucy Dacas or uh Phoebe Bridger. I love,
I love all of all of what they're doing, Julian Baker.
Their their music is just so beautiful, and you know,
for me, it's I've always been drawn to women's voices
and rock and roll. The person that I collaborate with
the most, who produced my record like a Gift is
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Garrison Star, who I play with all the time. She's
in my band, but she's also an incredible, incredible, incredible artist,
And you know, she inspires me to know, and so
those are like the artists that I'm really listening to.
On other fronts, I love Kneecap. This is a very
incredibly hilarious and really I mean just some of the
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best hip hop coming out of Ireland. Really cool. I
really I really enjoy their music and I love their movie.
You know, I'm endlessly entered paid by all of these
newer artists that I see out there, and I mostly
get sort of I think, alerted to them through TikTok.
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TikTok is a passion as well, and so I'm very
lucky that I get to hear about all these new
artists and I really love them. Oh Japanese Breakfast, I'm
so in love with her, incredible and Midski. So many people,
so many people I love. What do I do to
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relax when I'm not working? Well, for me, it's all
about like just hanging out, like I love to hang out,
like my house. I love my home. I love being home.
I'm not at I'm not a I found as much
as I was of touring, like I tour extensively still,
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but I really appreciate the downtime. I really appreciate my house.
My house is like really loud inside, like because there
was always some instrument going or everything's plugged in all
the time, so I could just like walk up and
play anything. And you know, for me, like I've been
able to create like a real haven for myself with
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all these environments for me to just create. So it
is kind of working, but it doesn't feel like work
to me. To me, it feels like a joyous thing. Also,
I have a very strong meditation practice, which sort of
a lot of ways is kind of like work as well.
So I will like go down for quite a large
part of the day meditating. I think it's like the
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most sane thing that you can do. It's just like
sit there. But yeah, that sort of feeds me. I
really love to do that. I love. I love my
meditation practice. I love my animals. I love I have
three cats and a dog. You know, they are my
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whole life and and I just tend to them and
care for them and I'm always doing something with them,
so that, you know, to me is a real joy.
I have many, like hundreds of plants, some of which
are dying, but some of what are doing really well.
So you know, gardener ing, is a passion. But yeah,
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sustaining life around my house, whether it's animal life or
plant life or creative life, is all I care about.
All I do. So I grew up in San Francisco
during the seventies in the eighties, And how did that
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specific time and place shape your worldview and comedic perspective. Well,
it's very political, and I was lucky enough to have
grown up there. My parents owned a gay bookstore, like
from the nineteen seventies on, So my first gay pride
was nineteen seventy eight, and my father's employees were early
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followers of Harvey Milk, who, of course was the very
first openly gay elected official in San Francisco in the world,
and he was an incredible figure, and I think to
be witnessed to his rise and also the terrible loss
of him with his assassination, just taught me a great
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lesson about the world and how none of us are
safe no matter how applauded and lauded. Somebody can be
that hope, and also the hope for the future doesn't
die with that person. So you know, I was witnessed
to the collapse of this sort of dream of Harvey Milk.
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But also this incredible resurgence after AIDS, which the activism
around the AIDS cry was truly incredible thing to witness
and be a part of. You know, I did a
lot of AIDS fundraising for people with AIDS and people
living with AIDS in the eighties and the nineties, and
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for me that was the sort of the first involvement
with politics, and it really educated me a lot to
how we should be fighting for our rights. And you know,
I'm so grateful that my history included that to be
around so many incredible people and to be witnessed to
(28:33):
the incredible resilience of the gay community, to have survived
this plague which killed us by the million, yet we
were able to emerge from that not only with our
numbers restored by new generations, but also with a political outlook.
(28:53):
That was something that led to the legalization of gay
marriage in twenty fifteen, which was a very very big deal.
To go from a criminalized existence to that in this
one lifetime, you know, to be able to witness that
was so profound. So I'm very lucky to have seen that,
(29:16):
which is why I fight so hard for our rights now,
because we can't lose what we fought for. We fought
for so long and so hard for all of that,
and it can't be lost because somebody doesn't like woke.
But I think that we are making our own strides.
Hopefully I plan to be fighting anyway. But yeah, So
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growing up in San Francisco during the seventies in the
eighties was incredibly important. Those formative years were all about politics,
about queerness, about learning how to fight and to be
witnessed to all of these incredible historical events, almost just
on the sidelin as a child and then as a
young young person. You know, it was really meaningful, and
(30:07):
I'm glad, I'm really grateful. I have spoken candidly about
personal struggles with addiction and body image, and how has
that vulnerability on stage affected your relationship with your audience. Well,
you know, I think that when you have endured something
like having an eating disorder, which I have, at having
alcoholism and addiction, which I have, all of these things
(30:30):
are important to write about as an artist. And so
what it does, too is that people recognize the feelings
that you felt, because everybody's had that. I think that
as human beings, we're all vulnerable to that experience of
these failings, and that they're not really failings. They're sort
of different kinds of diseases that you can get. Diseases
(30:51):
of the mind, which is addiction, which is an eating disorder.
These are just diseases that you can catch that are
really deadly and are really devastating if you can't get
away from them. There are things that people usually die from,
and so you know, to have found a way out
(31:13):
of that, it's so meaningful, and so I want to
write about it. I want to talk about it in
a way that gives other people hope. People that are
like in the middle of it, you know, we have
hope to be free from addiction if we just find
a way out. There's many ways out, also of out
(31:36):
of addiction, out of eating disorders, out of there's many
ways out, as there are many ways in, unfortunately, but fortunately,
like unfortunately, there's many ways in, but fortunately there are
many ways out. And as an artist, you want to
talk about that because it really is important to share
your truth there and helpful for other people who may
(31:58):
be going through the same thing. So, and it's funny.
I think it's funny. Between standing up, acting, music writing,
and fashion design. You've explored many creative avenues. Is there
an artistic medium you haven't tried yet that you'd like
to Well, I always try drawing. I'm not good at it,
and I don't stick around long enough to find out
(32:19):
if I can be better at it, but it's very
entertaining to me. So yeah, I always like think, oh,
Manna draw the thing, and it never looks right. But
I do like appreciate somebody who can have this sort
of eye hand control, that that relationship between your eye
and your hand where you could really sort of like
(32:40):
make something like you see it. That to me is incredible.
I could create things like I think it's like fight
what I'm making clothes. I look at it as a
sculptor and almost an architect, you know, so that you
can kind of like put things together in a way
that makes sense spatially. That's sort of what it is
making clothes kind of like kind of like sculpture. So
(33:03):
I can understand that maybe better than I can like
actually like taking something pinned to paper and drawing something
that I see, Like I just don't know how to
take an image and put it on paper, but I
do enjoy the process. So yeah, there's also lots of
paper everywhere where. There's a lot of doodles and things
(33:24):
and whatever. But that's one area that I haven't done.
Lucy Lose great painter, so I like her work a lot.
I think it's so cool when people do a little
something different from what we know of them, as we
know somebody as something and then they do something a
little different because we're all very multifaceted. We're all we
(33:45):
contain multitudes. I've done so much in my career. What's
still on my bucket list? Well, I would like to
win an Academy Award. I would like to have an egot.
I have a oh well, I have some nominations, but
I have quite a few gramm Any nominations, and I
have an Emmy nomination, but I don't want anything, So
I would like an ecot. I think it's great, Like
(34:06):
it's so exciting when people get sort of I like
a pegt where you get the Peabody also or a Pulitzer.
Peagot is great. So yeah, I think it's a fun
third of a game. But I'm like very grateful for
the nominations I've received, But yeah, I'd like to win.
(34:27):
Not that winning matters as much as being nominated. Being
nominated is great because then you're like, there's the possibility
of winning, like you just as just as well could
have won. But yeah, i'd like to win. I'd like
to win, but I already have one because I have
a good time mostly doing everything. I think that's the key,
(34:48):
really like to really win. Life is just having fun,
and I do. I have a really good time doing
a lot. What's something Funds would be surprised to learn
about you? Well, I am kind of a good cook,
Like I really like my cooking, and I make Thai
food and Korean food. And today, even though corn's not
(35:10):
quite in season, I got optimistic because it was hot
out and I made a a lote which I'm going
to eat right after this. It smells so good. So
I'm kind of a really good cook, so you can
come over and eat. I am really good at cutting
animal nails. I cut seventy two animal nails a week,
(35:32):
so I'm very good at that. I could be a
vet tech. I could be a small animal veterinarian if
I wanted to go to school to do that. But yeah,
I'm quite a homey kind of a lady. So now
we are kind of wrapping up. But what's important to
me right now, I really want to be able to
(35:57):
test the balance of free speech and try to really
make it known that I am very frustrated with our
current political environment and administration and I want it to change.
And so I'm going to try to do that by
telling jokes so cross and so foul that people get
(36:19):
very upset when it's directed at them. The achievement of
my career that I'm most proud of is that I'm
still here, that I'm still doing this, that I still
love what I do, and that I'm still very active,
and at fifty six, I still have a lot more
to give. I hope to do this for at least
another fifty years. I think I can. I'm pretty healthy.
(36:41):
So that's my goal, is to keep doing it. Where
do I see myself in five years, Well, I hopefully
still here doing the same thing, but maybe joking about
a different administration that I like, like a different set
of people, circumstances that I like a lot more than
(37:03):
what's happening now. I hope that it's a woman president,
and I hope that it's that I helped elect, and
I hope that it's an administration that I absolutely love,
but that I can still poke fun at and where
people can find me at they can find me at.
(37:23):
My shows are all posted on Margaret show dot com.
It's my website where you can find tickets and dates
in anywhere I'm going to be. You can find me
on TikTok at the Margaret Show and on Instagram at
Margaret Underscore Show. I'm also on Blue Sky, which s
Marker show on the Blue Sky at the It's a
very long address, but I actually post a lot on
(37:44):
Blue Sky. I think it's really good. And yeah, you
can hear my music anywhere. It's streaming my new album
it's called Lucky Gift. There's lyric videos and new music
video on YouTube. But you can also watch my comedy
on you YouTube as well. But you can hear me anywhere.
You can see me on the road, coming to a
(38:07):
town near you hopefully soon. And thank you so much
for having me today. If you want to stay up
to date on what I have going on, please follow
me at Margaret Underscore Show, which we talked about on Instagram.
Follow all things Rogue Energy at Rogue Energy Podcast. Until
next time, see you, Thank you,
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