Jasmine Crockett Issues DIRE WARNING: America 'Soon You Will Understand'; RIPS View Host's MAGA Talk
February 22, 2025 • 20 mins
Texas Congresswoman Jasmine Crocket continues to blast the Trump
Administration.
While on The View, rep. Crockett shut down Trump's former aide, Alyssa Farah Griffin, who confronted her with his approval ratings.
On Tuesday, Crockett was on MSNBC and explained to host Ali Velshi why the midterms are so important to keep the tech billionaire from getting richer off the American people.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In tonight's edition of The Crockett Chronicles, Texas Congresswoman Jasmine
Crockett lets it be known to MAGA that if you're
questioning the Democrats, it's time to.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Face the truth.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Thank you, mister chair.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
And just in case I go over, I just wanted
to note that the previous speaker went over by a minute.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We've heard, We've heard a lot about.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
The fact that Democrats have been talking about Elon Musk,
and let me give you a news alert. We're not
gonna stop talking about him. We're gonna keep talking about
him until he is out of here.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Now.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
If he wants to be elected or appointed and confirmed
to something, then so be it. But as of right now,
we have somebody there for whatever reason. I don't know
if y'all just trying to play in our face because
you think we're stupid, or if you literally just cannot
see the difference in a George Soros and a Bill Gates.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
But let me give you a little bit.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Of the difference. Number one George Soros nor Bill Gates. Ever,
somehow decided to turn off the specket of money that
was going through to various organizations and agencies to the
extent that it had actually been ordered by law that
they should have access to it, to the extent that
people are dying. There are people that have died as
(01:14):
a result of this antic and there are now farmers
that are screaming that they may lose their family farms
because we have over five hundred million dollars worth of
food that is sitting and not going anywhere because of
the attempt to shut down USAID. So let me tell
you that is the big difference between the two of them.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And let me also tell you that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
A big difference between Democrats and Republicans is that we
don't just say we believe in the Constitution, but we
walk it like we talk it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
What does that mean. That means that if we believe in.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
The Constitution, we don't just pick out the Second Amendment
and say that it is limitless, nor do we pick
out the First Amendment and say that it is limitless.
The thing about the Constitution is that it has always been.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
A balancing test.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
There are limits to this and right now what we
continue to hear from a certain size is that there
are no limits to this lawlessness.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
In fact, there are limits.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
And I can tell you that one of those limits
typically is around hate crimes. You may or may not
know that when it comes down to it, if somebody
decides that they want to send something hateful and say
the US mail, they can actually go to prison for that,
up to five years in prison.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So yes, there are always going to be limits.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
So when we start to talk about Trump and him
being pulled down on any platform, this just happened to
be after he incited an insurrection.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
This just happened to be after, in a.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Bipartisan way, this particular chamber decided that they were going
to impeach him. So there was something a little different
about what he did because, as we know, it led
to people actually dying.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
But let's talk about who's.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Doing the nefarious things with the tech giants, because I
don't I don't think that one side of the islist
promoting truth, but sometimes it may seem a little treason,
is all right. So we've got this article right here
about this guy.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Meta says it will end its fact checking program.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
On social media post. I'll talk about that a little
bit later. Then we have Washington Post says it will
not endorse a candidate for president. We also know that
actually they absolutely intended to endorse Kamala Harris. We have
this when Google Maps now show Golf of America instead
of Golf of Mexico for app users in the United States,
(03:36):
which is a complete farce because it's the Golf of
Mexico it always has been. And we know that the
AP got kicked out yesterday because they refuse to buy
into this lie. Because that's all y'all really want to
promote is lies.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
That's the big issue that we have.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Elon must boosted false USA conspiracy theories to shut down
Global Aid. Now while he was boosting the those lies
about USAID and he was stopping money going for say
things such as head Start somehow the only money that
didn't stop with the money to him and his organization. Now,
I don't know how you can have him be the
(04:15):
watchdog as well as the guy that is literally living
off of the government. If we want to talk about
government welfare, it looks like Elon Musk. Because it's my
understanding that just on yesterday a new contract was approved
for approximately three hundred million dollars for Elon Musk.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So listen, I just want you all to be honest.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You want to sit here, you want to lie because
so often.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We hear, well, you know, yeah, we did lie.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
In fact, he admitted that he lied when he was
in the Oval office yesterday. But if it's a lie
that will get you into office, such as saying I
know nothing about Project twenty twenty five, yet on day one,
you literally do everything that you can to implement it,
including banking sure that you put say, one of the
main architects of Project twenty twenty five over the O
(05:03):
and B. It's okay so long as you get the
power that you seek. The problem is that the game
is going to be on the American people, and when
I say the American people, I mean all of us.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Unfortunately, I am also suck.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
In the Twilight Zone because of the lives that were
allowed to be propagated. Just like when you're talking about
vaccines and all this nonsense. Right now, in my state
of Texas, there is an outbreak of measles, and what
they are finding is that because there's been so much
disinformation about vaccines, that kids are sick right now with
(05:38):
measles that they did not have to have if they
just trusted doctors and experts instead of randoms online. So
I will end by saying this, mister Chairman, because I
know we believe in Jesus in this chamber. In John
eight and thirty two, it says the truth shall set
you free. So maybe we should to focus on a
(06:01):
little bit of truth in this chamber.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
My goodness, Jasmine Crockett has been speaking truth to power,
Doctor Davis. From where you sit, obviously, Jasmine Crockett is
establishing a standard in terms of how this fools just
needs to be pushed back. What's your assessment of what
Democrats have been doing so far? Because we don't seem
(06:27):
to see that type of fire. I mean, the obviously
are exceptions, But what's your assessment of what Democrats are
doing up to now in the federal legislature?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And what do you think they should be doing? How
unfiltered am I allowed to be?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Now, you know you hear from the founding doctor, you
already know what this is. We two blocks from the
White House, so I know they come busting up in here.
You know, knuck if you buck, But I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Now Here is the thing I understand that there is.
They are at a numeric disadvantage, so I understand about
the practicalities of what they can and cannot do with
regards to asserting power over the situation. However, I have
(07:19):
been beyond disappointed and seeing the relative silence out of
them for weeks. I am and let me just also
say this, I don't understand why not one member of
the Congressional Black Caucus has said shit about the fact
(07:40):
that we have lost sixty years of civil rights infrastructure
on his first day in office, and it is now
legal to discriminate in hiring and federal contracting throughout the
federal government and with every private company that does business
with the federal government. So I want people to understand
(08:03):
that now you might as well be living again in
Jim Jim Crow, because this is Jim Crow era legal
realities that we're operating under right now as black people
in America, And where are our leaders? I hear crickets,
I hear crickets, And I appreciate what Represented Crockett is doing,
(08:26):
like the energy that she's bringing to this, But I'm
still pissed that it took weeks for them to try
to get the memo that they need to do something
except just being in essence, you know, these very timid
questioners as people are being approved and I'm still waiting
(08:48):
for someone to express outrage, for someone to really understand
and articulate to the American people what it means when
he rescinded Executive Order one one two four six. I
think that it is a relictive duty for those people
who claim to be.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Leaders.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
And let me just also say, and I'll stop here,
not just elected leaders, but those who claim to be
leaders in our community.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Where are you?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Where are you now?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
That's right?
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Why are you so silent? Why are you muzzled? Who
is really pulling the strings? What is going on here?
Because I understand the gravity of this moment. I'm outraged,
I'm pissed. I'm doing what I can do as a
private citizen, specifically with regards to trying to help give
(09:37):
direction to business owners who have been sorely impacted by
this as we speak. But those people who are elected
to office and heavily heavily black districts, yes, and seeing
the rights of black people being ripped away right in
(10:00):
front of their eyes, the silence is deafening. And I
just want to finally say this needs to be rectified
or there needs to be some different choices made when
primary season come because I believe that if we're going
to have leaders, we need to have leaders. We don't
need to have seat fillers, we need to have leaders.
(10:21):
And we are at this moment completely I'm completely underwhelmed.
And that's putting it very lightly with regards to my
assessment of the reaction that has been provided, or rather
the non reaction to the ripping array of rights that
our people fought and died for.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yes, it's just really.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Insulting to me at a base level as someone who
understands what's happened. And I know they understand it, So
why aren't you at least educating the people about it
and speaking out about it such that you can shame
attempt to injection shame into the situation with regards to
(11:07):
the degree of violence that has been done to our
rights by this ILK that's in office right now. It's
truly infuriating.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Thank you, Doc.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And we know, of course that they have a razor
thin majority in the House of Representatives. And I can
never tell whether or not Jim Jordan has a T
shirt on in that it only cuts with.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
A glint anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
The voters in Ohio don't seem to be particularly intelligent
in picking who they send to the federal legislature, at
least not Jim Jordan's district.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
But Mike.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
In terms of what's coming up right in front of us,
thinking about this as Avis has framed it, I mean,
we should be fueled by this kind of this is
these indignities, I mean, just brazen. You know, we saw
the man's mugshot and a frame right outside the Oval
office today.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The picture was floated.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, but even beyond that, there are three open
house seats, right we know Stefanzik is now representing God
for bless America, the country, the country at the u
N and so the New York twenty first is open,
the Florida sixth, Mike Waltz, and of course Matt Gates,
who thought he was gonna Attorney general so he resigned
(12:19):
his seat in the Florida first.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
In the short term, how should people be thinking.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Of course, we know ninety million people didn't vote at all,
so which was the biggest number.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Between Trump or Harris.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
But how should people be thinking about what they can
do right now to get organized and to move As
Ava said, not waiting to go any congress person. You know,
we're gonna do what we can and are those three
seats in play. The media will tell us that they're
in blood red districts.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
But what's your opinion, Well, first of all, I think
to be engaged. Number one, people need to be informed.
Why you need to watch the Black Star Network. Stop
listening to black social media disinformation agents because they helped
you get into this position in the first place when
they told you don't vote for Kamala Harris. You see
(13:11):
Project twenty twenty five, you see it being implemented right now.
New York Times has an extensive analysis that breaks down
how in the first twenty three days of Donald Trump's administration,
he's implemented sixty measures that come right from Project twenty
twenty five, whether they are executive orders or memos or
what have you. And then also you want to organize. Now,
(13:34):
back during the first Trump administration, you got a lot
of people all over the country that organize based upon
the document called Indivisible and Indivisible was put together a
by former congressional staffers, and it dealt with fighting against
the Trump administration. And it has strategies and taught you
to understand civics and how to put pressure on your
(13:57):
member of the House representatives and your member of the
US Senate, because you and other people like you in
those districts and states can vote those people out of office.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So you have.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
People now who are revisiting that Indivisible is being formed
in different chapters across the country. And it was we know,
a couple of Wednesdays ago, Indivisible organized a national day
of protests, fifty to fifty one, fifty states, fifty protests.
They protested at state capitals on one day. And we
(14:30):
keep in mind, going back to the first Trump administration,
when they saved the Affordable Health Care Act and John
McCain gave the thumbs down, that was a result of
pressure coming from everyday citizens organizing visiting their members of
the House representatives every Tuesday, visiting their members of the Senate,
(14:51):
et cetera, and putting pressure on them to save the
Affordable Health Care Act. Also, we have to understand how
with the measures that Trump is impled many right now,
the downsizing of the federal government. Okay, almost nineteen percent
of federal employees of African Americans, but the measures that
he's putting in place are hurting everybody. The New York
Times is an extensive article talking about how farmers who
(15:14):
voted for Trump are being hurt, whether it's him putting
the pause on Inflation Reduction Act, shut it down, USAID.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Et cetera.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
And then remember the trade war that Trump started with China,
which killed the soybean market for farmers here. Okay, So
then the US government had to do twenty six billion
dollars in aid for farmers using taxpayer dollars because of him.
So we have to It's so much going on at
the same time, but we have to organize, educate ourselves,
(15:43):
understand civics, understand the law. And lastly, African Americans have
to redirect dollars from businesses that have stopped diversity, equity
and inclusion a roll back from that, redirect those dollars
to black owned businesses because a lot of times people
are like, there's a campaign to don't spend any money
on February twenty eight, that's the last day of Black
(16:03):
History Month. You should be spending money with black owned businesses. See,
we still haven't figured this out. We only deal with
giving white people our money are taking it away, But
we don't have enough self respect to redirect that energy
to spend our dollars with black owned businesses so that
they can grow economically and employ more African Americans. So
we talk about redistribute, redirect to renegotiate, redistribute the pain
(16:27):
through targeted economic withdrawal strategies, renegotiate our relationship with Corporate
America for more supplier contracts, et cetera, and redirect our
dollars to African.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
American owned businesses.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
This is what we have to do in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Indeed, and we have experience with all of those, so
it shouldn't be too difficult once.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I guess we feel enough pain. But that's why we
have to study the history.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
No question, There's no question about it, brother, brother Matt. Finally,
in the first block, when we were talking with Devin Ambres,
the questions you raised, I mean, really nudging us toward
the big question of constitutional crisis, which is raised do
you think we are on the precipice of a constitutional crisis?
And theer's so, how should we be acting at this point?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
So yes, Dot, and I appreciate that question. I had
lunch with a couple of lawyers and we were talking
about it. And what's interesting that a lot of people
don't realize. I'm sure you and Michael and doctor Davis
know is the Supreme Court has never truly been a
coequal branch until like the modern era, essentially when the
country was found that they were kind of the redheaded stepchild,
if you will, of the branches. And it's interesting that
(17:31):
they are having an outsized, you know, significance these days
considering in the history of this country they have not.
I tell you all of that to say, what concerns
me is the big issue is the courts are responsive,
but they're not something that reacts in real time. So
what I've been racking my brain on is what do
we do right now? Because lawsuits and everything are fine.
(17:52):
But Elon Musk is looting the government today, that's right.
And until I get in front of a judge and
I get a judge to give me an order and
I get them to adhere to that order, there's all
kinds of damage being done. So, yes, I think we're
at a constitutional crisis now. But the question that I
keep asking myself, and that I don't have an answer
for you on, is what do we do real time?
Because the problem is right now, maybe down the road,
(18:13):
the Senate confirms Elon Musk. But there's so much damage
done between today and that day, right and what you
do in real time, I don't know. I don't know
whether it's some of the strategies that Michael mentioned, but
I do know, and some of the things that doctor
Davis mentioned. But I do know that what's not going
to work is what we thought would work, what used
to work, And now I don't know if that means
our representatives, for instance, in the House, needs to start
(18:35):
filibustering despite the statue that doesn't allow them to do that,
whether they need to be standing at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania
every day, what we need to be doing as a people,
because the things we would normally have as mechanisms to
respond are clearly not only ineffective, but are not being
given the same gravitas they normally are, i e. The
court system. And I don't know where that leaves us,
(18:56):
but I do know that I think it has to
be more radical action than thought and prayers and thought
pieces in long social media posts. That's not going to
get us there. And I don't know what the answer
is in real time, but I'm trying to find that
answer myself.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
No question.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
We should reach out and find out talk to Clifford
LaTosha and the folks at Black Voters Matter, because right
now the Republicans will have a two eighteen two fifteen
advantage in the federal legislature.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Those three seats are open.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So as I said before, the Florida sixth, the New
York twenty first, and the Florida first, And you can't
tell me there aren't enough people and all three of
those districts to flip those seats. And we might be
able to make short work of this in the near future,
because they're going to have to have special elections, but
that would require a hell of a lot of work,
and of course we've done that kind of work before,
(19:43):
we can do it again.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
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In tonight's edition of The Crockett Chronicles, Texas Congresswoman Jasmine
Crockett lets it be known to MAGA that if you're
questioning the Democrats, it's time to.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Face the truth.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Thank you, mister chair.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
And just in case I go over, I just wanted
to note that the previous speaker went over by a minute.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We've heard, We've heard a lot about.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
The fact that Democrats have been talking about Elon Musk,
and let me give you a news alert. We're not
gonna stop talking about him. We're gonna keep talking about
him until he is out of here.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Now.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
If he wants to be elected or appointed and confirmed
to something, then so be it. But as of right now,
we have somebody there for whatever reason. I don't know
if y'all just trying to play in our face because
you think we're stupid, or if you literally just cannot
see the difference in a George Soros and a Bill Gates.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
But let me give you a little bit.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Of the difference. Number one George Soros nor Bill Gates. Ever,
somehow decided to turn off the specket of money that
was going through to various organizations and agencies to the
extent that it had actually been ordered by law that
they should have access to it, to the extent that
people are dying. There are people that have died as
(01:14):
a result of this antic and there are now farmers
that are screaming that they may lose their family farms
because we have over five hundred million dollars worth of
food that is sitting and not going anywhere because of
the attempt to shut down USAID. So let me tell
you that is the big difference between the two of them.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And let me also tell you that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
A big difference between Democrats and Republicans is that we
don't just say we believe in the Constitution, but we
walk it like we talk it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
What does that mean. That means that if we believe in.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
The Constitution, we don't just pick out the Second Amendment
and say that it is limitless, nor do we pick
out the First Amendment and say that it is limitless.
The thing about the Constitution is that it has always been.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
A balancing test.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
There are limits to this and right now what we
continue to hear from a certain size is that there
are no limits to this lawlessness.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
In fact, there are limits.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
And I can tell you that one of those limits
typically is around hate crimes. You may or may not
know that when it comes down to it, if somebody
decides that they want to send something hateful and say
the US mail, they can actually go to prison for that,
up to five years in prison.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So yes, there are always going to be limits.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
So when we start to talk about Trump and him
being pulled down on any platform, this just happened to
be after he incited an insurrection.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
This just happened to be after, in a.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Bipartisan way, this particular chamber decided that they were going
to impeach him. So there was something a little different
about what he did because, as we know, it led
to people actually dying.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
But let's talk about who's.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Doing the nefarious things with the tech giants, because I
don't I don't think that one side of the islist
promoting truth, but sometimes it may seem a little treason,
is all right. So we've got this article right here
about this guy.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Meta says it will end its fact checking program.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
On social media post. I'll talk about that a little
bit later. Then we have Washington Post says it will
not endorse a candidate for president. We also know that
actually they absolutely intended to endorse Kamala Harris. We have
this when Google Maps now show Golf of America instead
of Golf of Mexico for app users in the United States,
(03:36):
which is a complete farce because it's the Golf of
Mexico it always has been. And we know that the
AP got kicked out yesterday because they refuse to buy
into this lie. Because that's all y'all really want to
promote is lies.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
That's the big issue that we have.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Elon must boosted false USA conspiracy theories to shut down
Global Aid. Now while he was boosting the those lies
about USAID and he was stopping money going for say
things such as head Start somehow the only money that
didn't stop with the money to him and his organization. Now,
I don't know how you can have him be the
(04:15):
watchdog as well as the guy that is literally living
off of the government. If we want to talk about
government welfare, it looks like Elon Musk. Because it's my
understanding that just on yesterday a new contract was approved
for approximately three hundred million dollars for Elon Musk.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So listen, I just want you all to be honest.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You want to sit here, you want to lie because
so often.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We hear, well, you know, yeah, we did lie.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
In fact, he admitted that he lied when he was
in the Oval office yesterday. But if it's a lie
that will get you into office, such as saying I
know nothing about Project twenty twenty five, yet on day one,
you literally do everything that you can to implement it,
including banking sure that you put say, one of the
main architects of Project twenty twenty five over the O
(05:03):
and B. It's okay so long as you get the
power that you seek. The problem is that the game
is going to be on the American people, and when
I say the American people, I mean all of us.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Unfortunately, I am also suck.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
In the Twilight Zone because of the lives that were
allowed to be propagated. Just like when you're talking about
vaccines and all this nonsense. Right now, in my state
of Texas, there is an outbreak of measles, and what
they are finding is that because there's been so much
disinformation about vaccines, that kids are sick right now with
(05:38):
measles that they did not have to have if they
just trusted doctors and experts instead of randoms online. So
I will end by saying this, mister Chairman, because I
know we believe in Jesus in this chamber. In John
eight and thirty two, it says the truth shall set
you free. So maybe we should to focus on a
(06:01):
little bit of truth in this chamber.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
My goodness, Jasmine Crockett has been speaking truth to power,
Doctor Davis. From where you sit, obviously, Jasmine Crockett is
establishing a standard in terms of how this fools just
needs to be pushed back. What's your assessment of what
Democrats have been doing so far? Because we don't seem
(06:27):
to see that type of fire. I mean, the obviously
are exceptions, But what's your assessment of what Democrats are
doing up to now in the federal legislature?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And what do you think they should be doing? How
unfiltered am I allowed to be?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Now, you know you hear from the founding doctor, you
already know what this is. We two blocks from the
White House, so I know they come busting up in here.
You know, knuck if you buck, But I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Now Here is the thing I understand that there is.
They are at a numeric disadvantage, so I understand about
the practicalities of what they can and cannot do with
regards to asserting power over the situation. However, I have
(07:19):
been beyond disappointed and seeing the relative silence out of
them for weeks. I am and let me just also
say this, I don't understand why not one member of
the Congressional Black Caucus has said shit about the fact
(07:40):
that we have lost sixty years of civil rights infrastructure
on his first day in office, and it is now
legal to discriminate in hiring and federal contracting throughout the
federal government and with every private company that does business
with the federal government. So I want people to understand
(08:03):
that now you might as well be living again in
Jim Jim Crow, because this is Jim Crow era legal
realities that we're operating under right now as black people
in America, And where are our leaders? I hear crickets,
I hear crickets, And I appreciate what Represented Crockett is doing,
(08:26):
like the energy that she's bringing to this, But I'm
still pissed that it took weeks for them to try
to get the memo that they need to do something
except just being in essence, you know, these very timid
questioners as people are being approved and I'm still waiting
(08:48):
for someone to express outrage, for someone to really understand
and articulate to the American people what it means when
he rescinded Executive Order one one two four six. I
think that it is a relictive duty for those people
who claim to be.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Leaders.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
And let me just also say, and I'll stop here,
not just elected leaders, but those who claim to be
leaders in our community.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Where are you?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Where are you now?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
That's right?
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Why are you so silent? Why are you muzzled? Who
is really pulling the strings? What is going on here?
Because I understand the gravity of this moment. I'm outraged,
I'm pissed. I'm doing what I can do as a
private citizen, specifically with regards to trying to help give
(09:37):
direction to business owners who have been sorely impacted by
this as we speak. But those people who are elected
to office and heavily heavily black districts, yes, and seeing
the rights of black people being ripped away right in
(10:00):
front of their eyes, the silence is deafening. And I
just want to finally say this needs to be rectified
or there needs to be some different choices made when
primary season come because I believe that if we're going
to have leaders, we need to have leaders. We don't
need to have seat fillers, we need to have leaders.
(10:21):
And we are at this moment completely I'm completely underwhelmed.
And that's putting it very lightly with regards to my
assessment of the reaction that has been provided, or rather
the non reaction to the ripping array of rights that
our people fought and died for.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yes, it's just really.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Insulting to me at a base level as someone who
understands what's happened. And I know they understand it, So
why aren't you at least educating the people about it
and speaking out about it such that you can shame
attempt to injection shame into the situation with regards to
(11:07):
the degree of violence that has been done to our
rights by this ILK that's in office right now. It's
truly infuriating.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Thank you, Doc.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And we know, of course that they have a razor
thin majority in the House of Representatives. And I can
never tell whether or not Jim Jordan has a T
shirt on in that it only cuts with.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
A glint anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
The voters in Ohio don't seem to be particularly intelligent
in picking who they send to the federal legislature, at
least not Jim Jordan's district.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
But Mike.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
In terms of what's coming up right in front of us,
thinking about this as Avis has framed it, I mean,
we should be fueled by this kind of this is
these indignities, I mean, just brazen. You know, we saw
the man's mugshot and a frame right outside the Oval
office today.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The picture was floated.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, but even beyond that, there are three open
house seats, right we know Stefanzik is now representing God
for bless America, the country, the country at the u
N and so the New York twenty first is open,
the Florida sixth, Mike Waltz, and of course Matt Gates,
who thought he was gonna Attorney general so he resigned
(12:19):
his seat in the Florida first.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
In the short term, how should people be thinking.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Of course, we know ninety million people didn't vote at all,
so which was the biggest number.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Between Trump or Harris.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
But how should people be thinking about what they can
do right now to get organized and to move As
Ava said, not waiting to go any congress person. You know,
we're gonna do what we can and are those three
seats in play. The media will tell us that they're
in blood red districts.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
But what's your opinion, Well, first of all, I think
to be engaged. Number one, people need to be informed.
Why you need to watch the Black Star Network. Stop
listening to black social media disinformation agents because they helped
you get into this position in the first place when
they told you don't vote for Kamala Harris. You see
(13:11):
Project twenty twenty five, you see it being implemented right now.
New York Times has an extensive analysis that breaks down
how in the first twenty three days of Donald Trump's administration,
he's implemented sixty measures that come right from Project twenty
twenty five, whether they are executive orders or memos or
what have you. And then also you want to organize. Now,
(13:34):
back during the first Trump administration, you got a lot
of people all over the country that organize based upon
the document called Indivisible and Indivisible was put together a
by former congressional staffers, and it dealt with fighting against
the Trump administration. And it has strategies and taught you
to understand civics and how to put pressure on your
(13:57):
member of the House representatives and your member of the
US Senate, because you and other people like you in
those districts and states can vote those people out of office.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So you have.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
People now who are revisiting that Indivisible is being formed
in different chapters across the country. And it was we know,
a couple of Wednesdays ago, Indivisible organized a national day
of protests, fifty to fifty one, fifty states, fifty protests.
They protested at state capitals on one day. And we
(14:30):
keep in mind, going back to the first Trump administration,
when they saved the Affordable Health Care Act and John
McCain gave the thumbs down, that was a result of
pressure coming from everyday citizens organizing visiting their members of
the House representatives every Tuesday, visiting their members of the Senate,
(14:51):
et cetera, and putting pressure on them to save the
Affordable Health Care Act. Also, we have to understand how
with the measures that Trump is impled many right now,
the downsizing of the federal government. Okay, almost nineteen percent
of federal employees of African Americans, but the measures that
he's putting in place are hurting everybody. The New York
Times is an extensive article talking about how farmers who
(15:14):
voted for Trump are being hurt, whether it's him putting
the pause on Inflation Reduction Act, shut it down, USAID.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Et cetera.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
And then remember the trade war that Trump started with China,
which killed the soybean market for farmers here. Okay, So
then the US government had to do twenty six billion
dollars in aid for farmers using taxpayer dollars because of him.
So we have to It's so much going on at
the same time, but we have to organize, educate ourselves,
(15:43):
understand civics, understand the law. And lastly, African Americans have
to redirect dollars from businesses that have stopped diversity, equity
and inclusion a roll back from that, redirect those dollars
to black owned businesses because a lot of times people
are like, there's a campaign to don't spend any money
on February twenty eight, that's the last day of Black
(16:03):
History Month. You should be spending money with black owned businesses. See,
we still haven't figured this out. We only deal with
giving white people our money are taking it away, But
we don't have enough self respect to redirect that energy
to spend our dollars with black owned businesses so that
they can grow economically and employ more African Americans. So
we talk about redistribute, redirect to renegotiate, redistribute the pain
(16:27):
through targeted economic withdrawal strategies, renegotiate our relationship with Corporate
America for more supplier contracts, et cetera, and redirect our
dollars to African.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
American owned businesses.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
This is what we have to do in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Indeed, and we have experience with all of those, so
it shouldn't be too difficult once.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I guess we feel enough pain. But that's why we
have to study the history.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
No question, There's no question about it, brother, brother Matt. Finally,
in the first block, when we were talking with Devin Ambres,
the questions you raised, I mean, really nudging us toward
the big question of constitutional crisis, which is raised do
you think we are on the precipice of a constitutional crisis?
And theer's so, how should we be acting at this point?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
So yes, Dot, and I appreciate that question. I had
lunch with a couple of lawyers and we were talking
about it. And what's interesting that a lot of people
don't realize. I'm sure you and Michael and doctor Davis
know is the Supreme Court has never truly been a
coequal branch until like the modern era, essentially when the
country was found that they were kind of the redheaded stepchild,
if you will, of the branches. And it's interesting that
(17:31):
they are having an outsized, you know, significance these days
considering in the history of this country they have not.
I tell you all of that to say, what concerns
me is the big issue is the courts are responsive,
but they're not something that reacts in real time. So
what I've been racking my brain on is what do
we do right now? Because lawsuits and everything are fine.
(17:52):
But Elon Musk is looting the government today, that's right.
And until I get in front of a judge and
I get a judge to give me an order and
I get them to adhere to that order, there's all
kinds of damage being done. So, yes, I think we're
at a constitutional crisis now. But the question that I
keep asking myself, and that I don't have an answer
for you on, is what do we do real time?
Because the problem is right now, maybe down the road,
(18:13):
the Senate confirms Elon Musk. But there's so much damage
done between today and that day, right and what you
do in real time, I don't know. I don't know
whether it's some of the strategies that Michael mentioned, but
I do know, and some of the things that doctor
Davis mentioned. But I do know that what's not going
to work is what we thought would work, what used
to work, And now I don't know if that means
our representatives, for instance, in the House, needs to start
(18:35):
filibustering despite the statue that doesn't allow them to do that,
whether they need to be standing at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania
every day, what we need to be doing as a people,
because the things we would normally have as mechanisms to
respond are clearly not only ineffective, but are not being
given the same gravitas they normally are, i e. The
court system. And I don't know where that leaves us,
(18:56):
but I do know that I think it has to
be more radical action than thought and prayers and thought
pieces in long social media posts. That's not going to
get us there. And I don't know what the answer
is in real time, but I'm trying to find that
answer myself.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
No question.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
We should reach out and find out talk to Clifford
LaTosha and the folks at Black Voters Matter, because right
now the Republicans will have a two eighteen two fifteen
advantage in the federal legislature.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Those three seats are open.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So as I said before, the Florida sixth, the New
York twenty first, and the Florida first, And you can't
tell me there aren't enough people and all three of
those districts to flip those seats. And we might be
able to make short work of this in the near future,
because they're going to have to have special elections, but
that would require a hell of a lot of work,
and of course we've done that kind of work before,
(19:43):
we can do it again.
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